industrial-professions

[craggy tapir]

in the beginning of 4.0

when 4.0.1 it just became permanent

[molten falcon]

oh lovely

[raw shell]

ah so good timing. congrats 🙂

[molten falcon]

lost my atls but got a C8 for free with the 4.0.1

[raw shell]

@molten falcon did you have to do the LVM "hokey pokey" when switching your ore bags.. take an item off, put an item on, recall/store/ turn yourself around and sacrifice a virgin

[vestal ravine]

Some players print 12 refill buffer unload the 12 into space print the others and reverse load with the back area mostly empty. Easier to get to 39.

[leaden monolith]

I can't be bothered with all that messing around. For me it is just easier and quicker to fit 21 in back and 13 in the buffer.

[mighty orchid]

I just load 27 in a Fortune without even leaving pilot seat and call it a win

Tractor beam only touches boxes to place those on freight elevator

[digital dirge]

You can unload the buffer without getting up to press the buttons?

[mighty orchid]

You can't, but you need to do it just once

You load 12 on grid, then fill printer stations and buffer

Go to station and unload

Onle you empty grid - go and push "eject" button on printers once

[digital dirge]

Silly. Fair enough. I’m tempted, but the loss of a head makes me hesitant.

[mighty orchid]

And just wait for buffer to be printed

[honest grove]

Anyone have issues when stacking Hauling missions that one of them won't display as completed?

[mighty orchid]

I had that back in 4.0. Usually it happened with mission to deliver same commodity

[sonic fiber]

Still bugged then but will try

Actually that's what inwas doing

[raw shell]

I heard you can see mass of rocks from the mole pilot seat now?

[mighty orchid]

it was added while ago

you have access to mining mode, just no actual mining gear

*you used to have

did not touched Mole after MFD/UI rework

[raw shell]

bags do not remain if you have to claim/deliverable your ship

and in this buggyass game claiming is inevitable

[molten falcon]

well, it worked for me

maybe because I was on a server with only 86 ppl on the shard

will need to try it again during the weekend rush

[raw shell]

it was weird. summoned my ship after dropping off a load at arc-l4 went to get in the ship and died standing on the pad. woke up in lorville and the ship was status "deliverable".. so delivered it and called it up. Misc bags.

[quiet atlas]

Not gonna get mole bags again lost too many to landing pad glitches

[sonic fiber]

No luck. Still getting un minable rocks on moons

Back to the belts I go

[raw shell]

Sucks, I actually like the prospector with the large bags. The little misc ones are barely worth the back and forth

[inner sand]

Save the whale!

[spare cloud]

Please keep the IC reports to the dedicated channels.
Do not ask for upvotes anywhere else on the discord, rule 5.

[inner sand]

Sorry I thought I would post it here to encourage more people to report issues where they're helpful to be seen. Most players I run into have no idea about the issue council. My apologies.

I also didn't see the IC channel in the Discord until now, thanks for pointing that out.

[spare cloud]

Yeah, we want the IC reports to be centralized in one spot to better bring attention to them and not clutter the other channels with people asking for contributions.

[tranquil fable]

anyone tried the hull c this patch? i wanted to use it but last time it would only unload 1 crate then say comeplted transfer

[pastel flame]

Bad news

Multiple major bugs still ongoing

[raw shell]

Lyria still a good place to mine?

[tranquil fable]

consistency, i like it 😭

[rose forge]

how do I aquire cargo modules for the retalliator?

[peak snow]

Omega Pro in New Babbage, costs 450k auec

[knotty dove]

does trading with hull c work?

[cedar token]

I haven't tried myself, but everything I have been seeing in comments is that no, it isn't working well.

[molten falcon]

yep misc bags are back now

[knotty dove]

man had a great time doing trade runs with Hull C in 4.0.1 now im waiting for demand so i can sell😢

[spare cloud]

#industrial-professions message

[novel harness]

Im hauling meds but the crates are invisible. I try to sell them but it gives me an error, any workaround?

[knotty dove]

were you trying to autoload?

[novel harness]

yep

[knotty dove]

ouch i heard autoloading is unreliable as in it can eat your cargo whole or part of it

[coarse ember]

hot tip, dont do that, it's hit or miss and it only does whats on the grid

[novel harness]

it was autounload, all of the cargo is on grids

[coarse ember]

to make sure your cargo is actually sellable and you get paid gotta unload into freight elevator

[novel harness]

its invisible

[knotty dove]

irony when autoload is unreliable hull Cs one works

[coarse ember]

autounload/autoload has been jank as far as i can remeber it being a thing

[novel harness]

can i do anything about the thing?

make the boxes visible somehow

the console says they are still inside c2

[coarse ember]

not sure, could try seeing if tractoring them makes em start popping in instead of invisible crates

[novel harness]

tried but no hitbox

i cant walk thru the cargo area

[knotty dove]

man nothing better than station having no demand and im here with full Hull C

[novel harness]

i have got them working somewhat by selling them with the console but unclicking autoload

[mild pumice]

honestly don't think I could have gotten another box in lol (there's already a 1scu box in the cockpit/hall) LOL (2x missions so around 120scu total)

[sly robin]

anyone experiencing npc hostile on salvage clean up coming wayyyyyy before the timer ?

[knotty dove]

ok enough Hull C fun for me to many close calls with near station collisions

[coarse ember]

a few times in 22.1 but not since then, then again i dont salvage as uch as i did in 22.1 cause at that point reclaimer was billionaire maker printing millions worth of cmat before they adjusted pricing

[mild pumice]

lol all that effort and only one of the missions completed 😄

[lavish ferry]

anyone else not able to refeul vulture quantum fuel? it says it is refueled then just cuts to 5% feul and now im stranded with full load

[mild pumice]

known issue, the fuel state isn't saved between DGS changes so it reverts to old levels and you get stranded. Cost me 3 hauling missions, I already contributed to the IC which is under investigation.

Sticking to local jobs at the moment

[lavish ferry]

is this on all ships or just vulture?

[mild pumice]

Can occur with any ship

[lavish ferry]

ok thanks for info

[mild pumice]

no probs, it's not 100%

[lavish ferry]

imma just stick with my high qt feul ships

[mild pumice]

yeah very good idea for now!

if you're working in a ship that's going to need a refil stay local!

[lavish ferry]

just gonna take the taurus out for local bounties

then i retreive my vulture and it gets destroyed losing all my salvage 🙂

[sonic fiber]

Well take 2 on picking up a refinery order. Couldn't get out of hab this morning, no elevator

Nope, still no elevator. Game is unplayable

Guess I'll try hotfix

SNAFU

[mild pumice]

Yeah worth trying the hotfix there are some fixes and if you're on a hotfix server you can get client mismatch issues.

[sonic fiber]

Well it's unplayable otherwise so might as well.

I don't really understand how a local hot fix makes the elevators work though

They should just put in antigravity tube's so you can just float up or down

Ok hotfix got me to hangar

10 min wait for hangar queue

[sonic fiber]

Went to refinery, output job to ship, went to ship, nothing there. Oh well

Ima go play something else

[spice shell]

My experience up to them dropping 4.0.1 onto live was very positive. Since then I can't even leave the login bed apartment in NB because I can't step into the elevator. It was really one of the later hotfix patches that tried to address it, but made it worse.

It's been a very rough experience. I'm playing AC instead if I'm in at all.

[sonic fiber]

Hah inteied to play the pirate one recently and couldn't get past the ubisoft launcher. Refunded

[knotty dove]

how long does it take for commodities to update?

[fair robin]

Instructions Unclear, shield generator gaurds elevator now.

i was trying to put it in manually because it wasn't working when i equipped it in the loadout mngr

full power to sheilds, but it never charged. then i blew my ship up because i thought i might find it in the wreckage, but i got stuck in the ladder chute when the door didn't open and i couldn't jump out. so now i'm on my way to everus to see if i can get that hangar back and look for it.

too much trouble for a component that might just be busted?

[sonic fiber]

What else is there to do?

[fair robin]

lol, true. well for one thing, not get stuck at grim trying to buy another one.

or NB

[velvet rapids]

just an FYI, don't drop an ATLS on yourself.

[cold radish]

Hey guys, I was told ROC mining is good, I only have my starter ship and some money to my name (around 100k) how do I do that mining (with a rented ship ofc) and where do I accept a mission or something for that?

[velvet rapids]

there are no missions for ROC mining,, you just go to a planet and scan for gems

[cold radish]

Is it lucrative?

[velvet rapids]

decent, I haven't done it in a while but I liked it when I did

[cold radish]

Is there something better?

[mighty orchid]

hauling missions pretty good if you have ship that can do that

[velvet rapids]

if you look in the pinned messages in the mining channel here theres some guides for it

[mighty orchid]

or you can always rent cargo ship and do that

[cold radish]

That sounds like a good idea

I saw that the cargo mission that I see are 9SCU so which ship would you recommend?

[mighty orchid]

Cutlass Black is pretty cheap to rent and can chain like 5 basic missions

[coarse stag]

Is that a Barbican to replace the Stronghold?

[cold radish]

That's a bit much cargo space as there is only one cargo mission offered to me

[mighty orchid]

there gonna open more once you finish firts one

[velvet rapids]

once you do the first one a whole bunch will show up

[cold radish]

Oh that's good to know

Where can I rent it I didn't see it at new Babbage

[cold radish]

Oh damn

[velvet rapids]

go to everus harbor's cargo centre you can rent it there. I think that's the NB station

[mighty orchid]

tressler

[velvet rapids]

ah right.. go there, the cargo centre or refinery will have a rental kiosk

[cold radish]

Ah thank you guys

How much is renting though

[velvet rapids]

what is your current ship?

[mighty orchid]

~50k for 1 day
!itemfinder

[jolly dagger]

Universal Item Finder

Use the website to search for any item (and where to obtain them) in-game.

[cold radish]

Aurora MR

[velvet rapids]

ah,, yeah you'll need to rent something then

[cold radish]

Yea definitely

I'm happy that it can do the most basic bounty missions

[cold radish]

How do I collect the shipment that I am supposed to deliver somewhere

[rotund flame]

In the hanger, you go over to the cargo elevator, send it down to the warehouse, move the cargo over, then bring the elevator up

Then you need a tractor beam to move it from the elevator onto your ship

[knotty dove]

man bringing full Hull C to Seraphim station is literaly tempting fate

[rotund flame]

Where is the best place for hauling contracts?

I played back in 3.18 and all I did was bounties, I want a change

[coarse stag]

Anywhere in Stanton? Pyro hauling contracts will often go to outposts with pvp players and require 4 SCU minimum, last time I looked. Stanton is "safer" but also offers smaller cargo sizes more consistently. So depends on what you want.

If there's a "better" place in Stanton, I don't know, but chaining multiple missions seems possible everywhere I tried.

[rotund flame]

Okay thanks

[coarse stag]

That being said, Pyro hauling contracts with the threat of dying to players is quite fun and exciting.

[mild pumice]

Hurston or Microtech as you have the option of contracts to and from the distribution centers

[rotund flame]

Okay I'll do my assessment here at crusader then head to one of those

[mild pumice]

Better to go to those for local deliveries vs outposts as they have 4 or 6 freight elevators outside plus 2 hangars and outposts often have issues with theirs

[mild pumice]

Whilst ranking up you can stay at Crusader and stack the missions from Seraphim to Orison 50k each up to 6 at a time if you have space

[rotund flame]

I'm just glad hauling can be lucrative. I love bounty hunting but back in 3.18 it was that or bust.

I'm planning to rent a hull a for now

My Titan can't haul shit

[dusk wasp]

im trying to make alot of money so i can buy a cat, or a hull c or a c2 idk which i just want alot of cargo space so i can make more money, i can rent the taurus, which i think is the largest rentable scu storage, i learned yesterday that im too late to do those xenothreat missions, so what do i do to make good money?

[rotund flame]

Is there any kind of auto load? Or is it all manual loading?

[mild pumice]

For missions only manually loading

[rotund flame]

Gotcha. Thanks

Dang it I can't get my cargo rack to retract

Is there a hotkey for that

Or does it stay out while I deliver?

[mighty orchid]

so, ught, you cant take cargo or components from L-station salvage missions because handheld tractor just doesnt work
oh well

[rotund flame]

That would make more sense honestly

Did you try the rifle tractor?

There's a stronger rifle style one

[mighty orchid]

I had only handheld at that moment

prob just armistice limitations

[coarse stag]

You tried to access via inventory and drag and drop into your hands?

Or, you could hold it but couldn't fire?

[mighty orchid]

I can hold it, but it wont fire

back in hangar it works fine

[sick phoenix]

whats my main considerations when it comes to freelancer vs hull series

[knotty dove]

Hulls are one trick pony only good for cargo

[rotund flame]

I keep getting the QT bug. Can't select any target unless I have a mission

Have to relog to fix it

[sick phoenix]

that sounds about right. i was just trying to plot out what ships i wanted to grab, was thinking picking up a freelancer might be fun

but if i wanted to go cargomaxxing go hull... got it

on a side note how hard is mining nowadays

in the past i did mining for quant for that consistent income, but i remember a while back they made other non-quant actually give good profits?

so thats why i ask, how much "planning" does it take to go mining, or can i just kit for one ore type and go off on it

[velvet rapids]

platinum bays have RMC commodity terminals in them but they don't ever seem to sell the RMC. is that normal?

[flint forge]

what item do i need to get for the basic hauling quests?

[mild pumice]

Multi tool with tractor beam attachment and ship that can carry 6scu of cargo. A lot of missions are 8-10scu so a ship that can accommodate is better. The smallest I'd recommend is the Avenger Titan, for stacking multiple missions the Hull A is perfect (you can rent it)

[flint forge]

Multitool is something sold separate?

i just found the tracktor beam attachment

[mild pumice]

Yes you can buy at the cargo deck on the 4 main Stations

Yes you need both the tool and the attachment

Drag the attachment onto the equipped tool at the item bank

There's also medical, mining and salvage attachments for other tasks, hence multitool

There's also a cutting tool but I don't know if that works yet!

[flint forge]

how does one charge this tool?

[leaden monolith]

Basically all you need is a Prospector or Mole and you're good to go. I've assumed you meant ship mining and not hand or ROC mining. However there are various mining heads and attachments you can add/upgrade. In the pinned messages there are some pretty decent charts to help you decide what to fit.

[leaden monolith]

Once you equip the attachment then it is good to go. No charging required.

[leaden monolith]

First rule is never risk more than you're willing to lose because buying and selling cargo is a risky business. If your ship goes boom or you get hit by a bug then your money is usually gone. Personally right now I would say look for routes between stations and/or cities. Freight elevators at outposts on moons are hit or miss on whether or not they will work. Look for something trading Methane or Hephaestanite are two that come to mind immediately. SC Trade Tools and Uexcrop are two very helpful sites.

[flint forge]

My tutorial got stolen by the game so i dont have the money for renting

And now i cant even get my ship......

Its one bug after another with this game

[rich lichen]

Using the vulture and scraping feels off

Gimballed mode is not tracking tight and it’s like resisting me

Seems slow and sluggish not sure why just doesn’t feel normal

[sick phoenix]

ship mining yeah i just wasn't sure what to mine yknow

[leaden monolith]

Quantainium is extremely rare but extremely profitable if you find one and can crack it. Bexalite, Gold and Taranite are the next best. There are two new ores in Pyro Riccite and something else I can't remember that I think are up there with Gold etc. Some people only go for the top tier and others mine whatever they can. That part is personal choice.

I could be wrong on this but I think any ore can spawn anywhere with the exception of the two new Pyro ores that only spawn in Pyro.

[craggy tapir]

I found a 111scu asteroid with 47% of quant
Couldnt mine it tho

[ornate halo]

Calling out for help -especially for something like that- will often bring some willing volunteers

[rich lichen]

Did they reduce the mobility of the vultures salvage heads?

They seem to have less range left right up and down and are also a lil slower and clunky

[craggy tapir]

I asked multiple times
No one was willing

[ornate halo]

You need to get into more mining discords then

for a shot at roughly 1.1 million share, somebody might be interest

ed

[dusk wasp]

so what would be quicker for money, vulture salvage missions or commodity in the taurus?

[mild pumice]

Just unlocked the Senior Rank - I forgot the missions were such a ball ache lol

Honestly you're better off stacking 6 Rookie missions from LEO-LZ 😄

[rotund flame]

An scu relates to a ton right? Like a container that says 4.3t is 4.3 scu?

[mild pumice]

SCU is the size but weight can vary based on what you're carrying

[rotund flame]

Dang it I had cargo just go missing from the elevator

A whole contract wasted on 2 missing scu of goods

[mild pumice]

I've had about 20 or so missions like that on my journey, each one is a slap in the face but we keep moving forward LOL

[mild pumice]

if you deliver all but a few SCU it's safe to submit the mission for part pay but make sure it shows delivered for the items you did send down else you can lose a lot of rep if 0 was actually showing

I had one just now, 300scu I missed one box, 8scu but I was able to submit it with the 292

[rotund flame]

I didn't know you can partial submit

[mild pumice]

here's an example, as long as it shows them as delivered to the warehouse

never ever submit if it shows 0 delivered! Never!

It can put you right back to 0 rep 😄

You have been warned

[sly robin]

so now cmat in reclaimer worth absolutly nothing

[gentle sail]

Can you empty low-value ores from mining bins?

Or no way other than refining/selling

[cedar token]

Correct, no other way than refining/selling.

[rotund flame]

What's the goal for a cargo hauling mission ship?

[humble merlin]

What do you mean goal? Like what ship should you get for cargo missions?

[gloomy scarab]

Haven't mined or salvaged in pyro before, what locations do people use to do mining and salvaging there?

[humble merlin]

I see vultures friggin everywhere in Pyro

Not sure about mining though

[gloomy scarab]

Yeah what locations are good for panels in pyro?

[humble merlin]

I would assume any RAB locations

[gloomy scarab]

I know stanton it's like arc l1 and stuff but I have no idea with pyro

[gloomy scarab]

Rabs, are they like the arc l1 equivalent?

[rotund flame]

Like what is the ultimate cargo hauling ship? Im renting a Hull A right now. I mean that can be bought in game as well

[gloomy scarab]

Hercules is really good

If you want smaller then I would recommendTaurus

[rotund flame]

Okay so maybe I go Taurus first, then the hercules

I just want more space than the hull a has

[cedar token]

You can also rent the Freelancers to test, but the Taurus is definitely a favorite of many.

[rotund flame]

I had an Andromeda back in 3.18. I like the Constellation

Gotta love exploding for no reason with a full load of cargo

Getting real tired of buying tractor beams

[knotty dove]

Hull C 1.6mil profit for trade run its fun expecialy when fully loaded Hull C handles like a house

[balmy kelp]

Is the nomad good for seraphim to crusader hauling? If so, how much would that make me per hour roughly?

Same question if i get the black instead?

[fluid sentinel]

Is the MSR decent or hauling and cargo missions? I love the look of that beefy thing

[craggy tapir]

It has a spacious cargo bay

[knotty dove]

Yes expecialy for trading if you trade in high value cargo

[flint forge]

anyone know why the zeus cl is no longer buyable on the website?

[mighty orchid]

time limited sale ship

gonna return at some point, but for limited time again

[flint forge]

ah thnx for the info

[mighty orchid]

unless CIG decide to make it always available

[knotty dove]

Man trusted SC trade tools now im waiting for demand to sell my cargo

[viral heath]

`eh how come i cannot deliver my cargo? it wernt down the cargo elevator

[outer ridge]

whats the senior direct interstellar one like?

[mild pumice]

Hull C, good when it works which is like 33% of the time

[outer ridge]

ah sorry, i meant payout!

[mild pumice]

There's no senior direct or local

[outer ridge]

ah shit

thanks for sharing the info

[mild pumice]

Wait there are large direct I think but not medium

Definitely no Local

[knotty dove]

well Hull C only had 1 small issue for me otherwise it works for trading

[pearl juniper]

I finally found a mis-match between my mining laser power chart and results in the game, but I think the game may actually be calculating things incorrectly. Check this out. The rock below showed 38% resistance when I approached it. As soon as I hit it with the laser (Helix 1) it dropped to 27%. 38 x .7 = 27, so that's the 30% resistance reduction that you get from the Helix. OK, so far so good.

the weirdness comes in when you look at my power chart. At 27% resistance, I should just barely be able to crack a rock with 15444 mass (maybe). I was in fact able to crack this rock. The thing is though, the chart takes into account that 30% resistance reduction already, so we should be looking at the 38% column on the chart, which means we would be closer to 13.7k maximum mass crackable. It's like the game is applying the resistance reduction twice.

[velvet rapids]

I go to anything marked as a 'cluster'.. I assume RABs will work as well but I figure since there's a base there might be more traffic in those locations.

oops must have been scrolled way back

[gloomy scarab]

That was my guess tbh, clusters, I'll try clusters and RABS, see which one works best

[native raptor]

what are the better ores I should look out for on daymar?

or any good mining planets

idk really, just got into it

[sonic fiber]

Anything ending in Ite

[sick gulch]

Guys how much SCU ship do you need to make ~500k per hour with hauling missions?

[molten falcon]

If you remove the refueling pods from a starfarer does it make it lighter and faster to move?

[knotty dove]

as far as i know Hull C is only ship that has flight performance change depending is it loaded or not

[molten falcon]

all right, thanks.

[narrow needle]

how do I get the 200k salvage mission to pop up its not wokring for me on pyro5

[light imp]

HELP

how do i turn in cargo?

on a station

i put it in the freight elevator ?

lets gooo it worked

[molten falcon]

Not in anyore

[narrow needle]

damn it

[molten falcon]

How possible would it be to do solo Heavy fight with a Starfarer, like fighting stuff like Hammerhead

[narrow needle]

whats the best way to get free slam then/

[spare cloud]

More of a question for #flight-combat-racing

[spare cloud]

Bounties

[narrow needle]

true im grinding out my rep rn

[molten falcon]

sorry, got lost here

[narrow needle]

why wont it let me route my bounty?

Like qt

[gentle river]

where you at? Pyro?

[raw shell]

Nice rock!

[pearl juniper]

it was. Between that and a small one next to it with a little quant in it, I came back with about 20scu of quantanium on that run.

[raw shell]

Nice haul!

[narrow needle]

is the fortune anygood?

[native raptor]

Would anyone happen to know how much more profitable mining in Pyro would be

[random pagoda]

I don't know how profitable it would be, but I know how dangerous it would be. Since mining ships have effectively zero combat capacity, you will have to take your own security and that means sharing the profits, which reduces them considerably.
It could be profitable to gather a very large group (10? 20?) of miners and go there without an escort, as a swarm of bees can chase away a lion... but that is assuming you have that many friends in the game.

---

Another subject:

Folks, I see that, as I progress in reputation, missions get worse and worse in terms of credits per SCU.
How do I lose reputation very quickly? I want to go back to my 50K credits for 11 SCU. 😄

[flint forge]

i did a 61k for 6 today

[random pagoda]

Yep! There are many wonderful missions when you are low on rep. Getting them all gives yo a very good profit. 🙂

[flint forge]

but i guess it goes down because you get a bigger ship to move more stuff?

[random pagoda]

I don't have a bigger ship. 😦

Just my Hull-A.

[flint forge]

i cant buy a hull a yet

[random pagoda]

I was making 300K a run with it, but rep raised and now it got very much harder.

[flint forge]

just moving stuff around with intrepid

[random pagoda]

So, you are in the beginning. Reap as much as you can from it! 😄

I started by making those 11 SCU missions in my Cutter. 🙂

[flint forge]

i play verry slowly so it will prob take me another month or 2

i made a little less then 200k today

[random pagoda]

That is very good. 🙂

[zenith maple]

If you enjoyed it, dont worry too much about the money.

[raw shell]

do riger-c3s ever get consumed?

[random pagoda]

Oh, but the money is very important. With it you can buy other ships for either improving your game experience in hauling or rotatin to another experience. Hauling is a nice way to get credits in the beginning and we should, in my opinion, take advantage of that... but of course, everyone plays as they like. 😉

[zenith maple]

for sure, money is progression, and opens up more things. but doing grind to grind, if you dont have fun doing so. is a fine way to burn out.

[random pagoda]

Oh! In that sense, I agree completely! 🙂

I am grinding hauling missions in order to set up my mining game cycle. I don't like mining and don't intend to keep doing it, but it's necessary for prepping things and that makes it fun. 🙂

...so, in the end, I'm doing it for fun.

[raw shell]

is everyone else's self-status and sheild MFD in the prospector broken, or just me?

[mighty orchid]

not that you need those

but yeah

[raw shell]

well, when a rock blows up in my face.. good to see if the ship is all red

and that the sheilds are up since the power kinda does what it wants currently

but to the question, yeah it's broken for everyone or just me?

[mighty orchid]

it is broken for Fortune so I'm not surpriced it is broken for Prospector too

[raw shell]

what do you think of the fortune, compared to the vulture?

[mighty orchid]

I absolutely hated Vulture but absolutely love Fortune

yes, you are slower at scraping, but you are saved from junky cargo hold tetris and leave pilot seat only in a hangar to unload cargo

27 SCU with no box moving other than into cargo elevator is win for me

[raw shell]

can you load it with as much rmc as you could with the vulture?

[mighty orchid]

if you bother about loading cargo internally you could possibly load even more

my approach is "ease of operation"

12 SCU on grid, 2 SCU in printers, 13 SCU in buffer

[raw shell]

that's a big plus. Hard to give up duel abrades but man I hate flying the vulture

[narrow needle]

Ima get the fortune now while it’s still on lti

[narrow needle]

When had the vulture I hated climbing up and down

[gloomy scarab]

Yeah it be like that

[narrow needle]

how much does the internal hold?

Scu wise

[mighty orchid]

No idea, never bothered to test. 4 SCU grid and alot of offgrid

But IMO, if you plan to load Fortune internally - you probably should just stay with Vulture

[narrow needle]

oh ok

i got rid of my vulture for the ironclad but ill figure something out

[fresh bear]

i currently have a star lancer max any suggestions on what to upgrade it to?

[gloomy scarab]

Nothing, keep the starlancer lol

[sharp swift]

Do I have to be in Pyro to grab the contracts for the next step of Save Stanton or whatever it's called?

Oh, only one faction has a hauling contract?

[mild pumice]

Yes, and you must be near a planet or station for them to show up. Citizens for Pyro offer the delivery missions.

[pastel flame]

MOLE continues to be absolutely stupid with its bridge lighting

[humble merlin]

lol

It's like reclamer, but inside the ship

[tough cobalt]

i haven't mined since 3.17 anyone got time to show me the rope again? goal is quant if that is ok

[coarse ember]

it's basically the same afaik, they rarely touch mining, theres some pinned posts to help you figure out ^ if you have any questions feel free to ask

basics you'll need is a prospector or if you're doing gem mining a roc or multitool with mining attachment, prospector can be rented from any refinery (usually a L station like cru L1 or arc L5). the sheets cover most of the depth stuff like gadgets but theres a few loose ones from mebers here that are helpful too, other than that alt + left click to change modes (mining/extraction) after pressing m and alt + scrollwheel to adjust your laser power

[sturdy geyser]

whats the best way to manage a "cargo removal failed, items pending transfer"

i could try to retrieve the ship and manually unload it but im worried that it will blow up on the pad (I lost like 1mil in cargo the last time I tried to retrieve my cargo ship)

[spring olive]

anyone found a workaround for the prospector bags not actually emptying? everytime i retreive it, the bags are full and its the same ore i just submitted - have tried pulling the bags off and putting them on again, but only fix so far seems to be abandoning the ship and claiming it again.

its less fun with quant in your bags, as you can drop the load off at the refinery and the countdown continues 😦

there were a bunch of IC's that i found and contributed to for it, but all are 403'ing now so suspect CIG are scrubbing them given that it's basically an infinite ore dupe exploit, but would be good to find a workaraound that isn't a 9min claim time

[sturdy geyser]

manually storing before leaving the hangar i think fixed it?

[native fossil]

anyone know the best comody to buy / sell right now i cant get a clear answer.

[balmy kelp]

how do i stack hauling missions? im at seraphim and rented out a nomad. i only have 1 hauling mission to crusader

and how do i collect the shipment? it's inside that tube that i cant get to

[humble merlin]

Request landing
land
go to freight manager terminal inside the hangar
lower the lift
Move the contracted cargo to the left side (lift side)
raise lift

[humble merlin]

You only get one if you have never done them before, it's the certification mission

[balmy kelp]

Thank you.

[balmy kelp]

Oh. After i complete these, i get more?

[humble merlin]

Once you complete the certification mission more should be available to choose from.

[balmy kelp]

Thank you

[ocean compass]

you want our trading secrets? 😛

no one will answer you

your best hope is to do your own trading runs / experiments on supply/demand etc. now dynamic pricing is also a thing, outpost/station volumes are also a thing

also best commodities is also dependent on ship sizes

like the best commodities on a 100 scu ship is going to be different from a hull c

use UEX / SC trading tools for some recommended routes.

[balmy kelp]

does the cutty black's tractor beam work?

[outer ridge]

Just curiouis what yall think, for around the 110 scu range. would you take the freelancer max or the taurus for efficienty?

[spice shell]

Yes it does

[spice shell]

Taurus all day. Great layout so load/unload is easy, better pilot view, great armament, easily loads vehicles to unlock more play. It's one of the best ships in the game currently.

[outer ridge]

my homies reasoning would be max is quicker cause you can land it closer to the elevator

[spice shell]

Tractor beam is too well placed to sling cargo for the Taurus, though.

[outer ridge]

i agree!

[hoary hinge]

first time using a refinery; job's finished.
How do I send the commodities to local storage rather than into a ship?

[spare cloud]

You don't

[hoary hinge]

wtf

[spare cloud]

It's not implemented yet, refineries work the old way

Magical loading only

[hoary hinge]

dangit
thanks mate

[halcyon aspen]

Hey does anyone know why I cant autoload into my Hull C? I thought they fixed that in 4.0?

[craggy tapir]

yea, they broke it yet again

[halcyon aspen]

I got it to work ultimately, but am now struggling with landing my ship. It only wants to dock and not be in a landing area

[compact plank]

Any miners wanna mine away>

[mighty orchid]

Try #looking-for-session

[mild pumice]

@outer ridge There's only one direct Senior mission otherwise they're all medium solar (a few examples here) and 1 large solar that actually pays less than the medium. So to get thru this rank you're looking at about 60 missions that take 1hr each, I made it half way through in 3.24 but I don't think I have it in me to grind it again to see what Master is like 😄

[knotty dove]

Well yesterday trading with hull c worked for me

[mild pumice]

One Senior Planetary mission at Microtect (will check Hurston later) at least this is a bit better than going round the whole of Stanton

[outer ridge]

Thank you!

[mild pumice]

well this is new, caterpiller front bay has an invisble wall and can't load anything in it 😦

well that explains it lol

another useless ship in the fleet

so frustraing I can't get the last of my cargo in

[outer ridge]

Yeah found the same, also got a vid. If you got a ticket ill upvote it

[mild pumice]

I'll have a look - ngl SC is really beating me down today

[outer ridge]

You can definitely load way more if you go off grid

[mild pumice]

5hrs now not done a single mission

[outer ridge]

for example max grid size is 26 scu but you can fit a 32 perfectly

with a bit under the stairs

im sure you can fit the last bit in!

[mild pumice]

I'll just submit it slightly short

[outer ridge]

alright ❤️

[mild pumice]

actually I can't be bothered lol Alt-F4

it's gonna still take 40 mins to drop it all off and I'm done

IC is fixed so hopefully in the next patch... https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-154435

[knotty dove]

lol it took 30min for server to pay me for selling cargo

[rotund flame]

Any tips on stacking cargo? I was under the listed scu limit on my ship, the 10t cubes don't stack. I tried to loosely load them but they just phased through the bottom of my taurus

Specifically for hauling missions. I know you can autoload the commodities

[rare garnet]

there's a pinned message that has wonderful images of most ships cargo, there's even one for the taurus.

[spice shell]

Be warned that the extra cargo hold of the Taurus is honestly kinda worthless. You can use it, but it's a PITA to move crates into it, and it's only 6 SCU.

I'd love to see it used to house a ATLS or something, R2D2 style.

[rotund flame]

It's just a pain in the ass when everything comes in 10t blocks that don't stack and I'm still well under the limit

[rotund flame]

Wouldn't be so bad if there was an option to choose the container size rather than having to parse through contracts and eyeball it

[knotty dove]

nah its right atm pick mission that has cargo that can fit in your ship

[sturdy geyser]

any tips for getting cargo out of the bow of the caterpillar? Its doing the thing where you can't tractor things unless you are inside it... but its so full I can't get inside from the inside. I also can't seem to tractor from above (near the front turret entrance). I am going to try ATLS next to see if its tractor can grab the stuff.... The cat's tractors also can't access the bow area either.

[halcyon aspen]

Hey guys I'm having some issues with my Hull-C. When I go to unload the cargo it only does like 300 SCU at a time, I have like 2400 SCU of cargo on it and I legit have to make multiple trips back and forth to the loading area just to get my Hull-C emptied.

[knotty dove]

you sure there is demand for your cargo amount it could be that station has no to little demand ?

i was able to sell 4608SCU in one go

[halcyon aspen]

Guess I haven't really thought about that. SC-Trade Tools only gives me like two stations that give such a high profit. I guess Magnus Gateway is pretty full of scrap right now.

[knotty dove]

you do know every Hull C owner wants to run that 2 trade routes hence supply/demand issues?

[halcyon aspen]

Thats fair

Is there any way for me to see a stations capacity on a certain commodity

[knotty dove]

yes on terminal beside buy tab there is local value tab i belive click it it will tell you how fullfilled demand is

anyways any commodity that offers profit 50 aUEC+ per SCU is good choice for Hull C

[vestal ravine]

Now I read a posting some player got 44 scu in and on the Fortune!

[mighty orchid]

but why

[quiet atlas]

my cargo seems glues to the ship floor lol and multitool is glitching on n of really fast any fix?

[halcyon aspen]

Has anyone had issues buying Steel? I got to load it but it just says failed transcation cost mismatch?

[near swallow]

For hauling jobs, divide the total SCU of the job by the listed container size, and it'll tell you how many containers of that size you need room for. (Often with a couple smaller containers left over.) Then you can use the pinned cargo grid charts to figure out how many containers of that size the ship can carry. (Taurus, for example, has a 174 SCU capacity, but for 8 SCU containers, it's useful load is only 112 SCU, aka 14 8 SCU containers. And even though 32 SCU * 5 = 160 SCU, the cargo configuration is such that the Taurus can only actually hold 2 32 SCU sized containers, aka 64 SCU. Math can take the guesswork out of loading. 🙂

[spare cloud]

Yeah don't try steel

[outer ridge]

@mild pumice Got there too!

[distant marten]

Looking at getting rid of my hornet for an andromeda. How good is it for a solo player

[rare garnet]

constellation ships where amazing for me when I ran solo with a few variations of it.
it's not a dedicated fighter like the hornet, but it sure still has firepower and resilience

[distant marten]

I got the hornet when I had a party and was their escort. Everyone’s moved off this game now so looking at a ship where I can do more for myself

[rare garnet]

I would say that the constellation is more than plenty for it.
decent cargo capacity, good defence and good offence, has even multicrew capabilites if one would fancy such.
I did love my connie back when I had one (ended up with the phoenix back in the day) before I moved on towards the Carrack that I am making use for pretty much anything (except solo combat... pilots don't get access to any kind of weaponry, only them how control the turrets does)

[distant marten]

Which variant would you recommend? I can choose between the andro and the taurus. The Aquila is a little out of my budget

[rare garnet]

Andromeda would be amazing if you wish to focus on more combat oriented gameplay, the taurus is amazing for cargo hauling to say the very least.
So it is more about your own playstyle.
But the Taurus is still plenty towards npc combat contracts.

[gentle river]

If you're just doing PVE, go for the Taurus. You can mount Size 5 Attritions, the Grade A industrial shield, run just one cooler, and you can take on up through ERTs. The ample cargo space allows you to loot Bounties or Vaughn missions for illicit cargo that can make you a ton of money

[thick folio]

What is the difference between the roc and roc ds?

[spare cloud]

ROC DS is a two seater.
With one to drive, and one to mine.

It's quite a lot more stable and enjoyable to drive, and one of the two seats is sealed, so you don't overheat while in it on Aberdeen.

The mining head is also more powerful, but that doesn't do anything because both ROC are only capable of mining their dedicated gem rocks, nothing more or less.

It basically takes two people for the same job, with one burning and the other protected, or solo, having to switch seats

[thick folio]

Gothca tyvm for the info!

[tall karma]

Not really an industrial convo unless you plan to use the Andy for cargo? In which case I'd suggest the Taurus, cheaper, same pilot weapons minus some S1 missiles, more cargo room, awesome tractor beam turret.

Only reason to go Andromeda over Taurus is if you're crewing it for combat with 2 gunners and an optional snub pilot and in that case I'd take the in-game Phoenix with the PDC for extra damage on nearby light fighters

[tall karma]

Another minor note, though still not super relevant, the DS does have like more than 2x the storage of the base.

[viscid knot]

Anyone need crew for trade runs?

[wintry pawn]

what is the salvage rep tab called

[ocean compass]

DS is way bigger than base roc

wouldnt recommend if you have like a cutlass

[abstract meadow]

For those who like mining, which do you like better: mining in asteroid belts in space or mining on moons? ⛏️ 🌑

Been doing both, and I know that asteroid belts have more of a change of quantanium compared to moons, but I rather have more chances of other ores like taranite, bexalite, etc.

Just curious what other players/miners have been doing/have better chances for higher end ores between the two. 😊

(Thank you @dusky raven for mentioning this channel, still new to this server and learning)

[edgy tide]

What is best spot to mine with rented mole

[vestal ravine]

Pyro has some bigger rocks and I saw a streamer mine a rock that was worth 1 million. He used a Mole solo.

[spare cloud]

Before 4.0 I used to mine in the Yela belt because going to the Aaron Halo was a pain and I considered it to be safer than surface mining, but now with meshing and the amount of players with bounties and salvage jobs there, it probably isn't rare at all to meet people.

I haven't been mining since 4.0, but it feels like Pyro isn't a bad place to go surface mining, and that'd take me on a nice adventure in Pyro's landscapes

I can't wait for RedMonster's updated mining charts for Pyro

[outer ridge]

do you need to dock with the hull c tro deliver the mission goods (not commodity trading)

yesterday either had bugs or couldnt figure out how to deliver

[rare garnet]

first you need to dock, get to the commoditie kiosk and sell it there, then you will need to get back to the hull c, un dock from the docking collar to then request docking with cargo (right alt + N), get to that magical space box and unload the cargo there

[outer ridge]

Ai thanks! probs just had bugs yesterday

[rare garnet]

well could be that and the hull c has been well... what it is, I have had my moments with that ship as well

[outer ridge]

I love the ship so much but man never worked well, heard a lot of people that it works decent this patch!

[rare garnet]

it sure did work very well for me in the 4.o.x patch, just that there where moments with some hickups here and there. But for the most of the time when I flew around and traded commodities with it, it worked most of the time.

[outer ridge]

Thats good to hear! I love how heavy it feels when flying fully loaded

anyway i could spam the whole chat about the hull c, again, appreciate the help!

oof same issue, select hull c and nothing to "sell"

and on select location it does show hull c but weird with unregistered items

[rare garnet]

yeah the commodities kiosk needs some more love from cig, it sure is confusing to choose "ship A" but it shows "ship B" and one has to go after them images rather than the text from my own experience.
but with the 4.0 version of the game, stations have changed some and have "saturation" (a certain amount at a time that they can receive cargo up to a certain limit and they might have limits to how large scu containers can be for sale? (I haven't really figured out them tidbits, mostly because I rarely fly around with that hull c and do these things. Mostly cargo haul now a day and might get back to some mining again).

[outer ridge]

It would be weird cause its mission cargo, not bought!

but yeah, might just return to my trusty caterpiller

and do hauling manually

[rare garnet]

ah mission cargo?
never done it with the Hull C, always gone with ships like C2 or Carrack for that, just so that I can unload it manually into them hangar cargo lifts (they at least tend to work )

[outer ridge]

Yeah understandable

that also works reliably for me

[hollow sedge]

hey so i wanna do prospecting but idk how to set up a prospector

[rare garnet]

I would usually go with the Helix mining laser head and have double Reiger C3 to be able to mine as many kinds of rocks as possible (now that they finally stack once more).
Usually had to do a Reiger C3 + Surge combo, but if one feels spicy enough and want to go after even bigger and tougher ones, go double surge for maximum output. (that is if one is comfortable with active modules for the laser)
Don't forget to make use of them mining gadgets, can come in handy

[hollow sedge]

idk how to scan the astroids

using the normal scan and it aint giving em nothin

[rare garnet]

you can cycle modes with the middle mouse button till you get to the scan one (usually just the very next one) and scroll with the mouse wheel to get the bar covered ass much ass possible and then with tab.
When you get within around ~100 meters of an asteroid / rock you can swap over to the mining mode to scan it's contents and swap back to the scanning mode to get it on the MFD (the info displayed)

[hollow sedge]

is it those unknown signals everywhere

[rare garnet]

yep, one will learn to read them eventually (they all have values, the higher the better)

[hollow sedge]

OH MY GOSH THATS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE

i was going up to random ones and poking em

like gimme your secrets

tyty

5 am moment

what materials should i look for? like this one got corundum

[rare garnet]

Quantanium if you are feeling a notch spicy with stress (usually get 25 min from mining it to refining / selling it (before your ship blows up)
Beuxalite, Gold, Taranite are the pretty good ones to look for

[hollow sedge]

tyty

I FOUND TARANITE

and it says easy to fracture

[rare garnet]

[hollow sedge]

how do i get rid of the other stuff

also this is awesome

i love this

[mighty orchid]

you cant dump stuff you scooped

thats how it works

you fracture and then scoop the most valuable parts to reduce amount of inert materials/trash

[hollow sedge]

oh dang, no ejection or filter

seems kinda lazy

[mighty orchid]

thats tradeoff of high tier materials

[hollow sedge]

thats what i do in SE, make my miners filter out stuff i dont want which is sick

[mighty orchid]

thats what refinery do

you can filter it when set up refinery order and refine only expensive ore

big miners, like Arrastra and Orion supposed to have own refineries

[hollow sedge]

sick

the orion reminded me of the planet cracker from dead space when i saw it

[mighty orchid]

smaller stuff supposed to work in pair with refinery and/or cargo ship

[rare garnet]

Don't forgor the Expanse (the show was amazing as well, but I was thinking about the ship) and the Galaxy with the refining module as well

[hollow sedge]

i spent like 30 minutes running around in the wrong scanning mode earlier

can't wait to own an prospector, in a rented one rn cause i wnated to try mining first

[rare garnet]

I do love me some mining, less so the refining and the commodities hauling (might have been corrupted by my mate who flys a reclaimer )

[hollow sedge]

me and a buddy did like 6 hours on a reclaimer yesterday

3 am

bounties and cmats

so why does my ship yell at me when i hold the laser to long

[rare garnet]

the salvage gameplay is the easiest by far, but if you love variation and a lot of different elements incorporated into one, then mining is the go to.
first the mining, then the refining (if you don't sell the raw ore as is)
The refining has a few alternatives depending on time versus profit.
after that comes the hauling and selling of said refined goods (so basically basic cargo hauling, that can be automated compared to cargo hauling missions)

[mighty orchid]

its easiest but too meditative

good when you tired of IRL stuff and just chill powerwash with music on

but there's no alot of gameplay behind it rn

mining is more refined and gameplay intensive

[hollow sedge]

im halfway full and i only got 2.8 scus of taranite and 1.25 of gold

feel like that aint great

[raw shell]

I used the vulture to buy a prospector. Using the prospector to buy a Mole. Then I'll use the MOLE to build my fleet

[mighty orchid]

could just use Prospector further

[hollow sedge]

the vulture isnt much cheaper than the prospector

like 2.4 vs 2.9

[raw shell]

Quick easy money but boring as hell

[mighty orchid]

Fortune ftw

[hollow sedge]

idk why ye wouldnt skip the vuluture in that process

[raw shell]

I literally fall asleep scraping panels

[hollow sedge]

just save a bit more

all the good astroids require a better laser

dang

[raw shell]

I bought it with rl cash. I think it was cheaper than the prospector? Figured it would be a good starter for game wipes.

Yeah you need a helix 1, reiger 3 module and I use a surge plus a sabir gadget to break big rocks

Stampede not surge. I need to get some sirges

[hollow sedge]

i got the rented prospector so im a bit outta luck for now

[mighty orchid]

you can still change those using tractor beam

it just wont be saved on claim

[hollow sedge]

i dont trust SC enough to do that

[raw shell]

That helix is like 100k too. Hurts to loose

[hollow sedge]

im poor and trying to save money

is borase worth anything

[raw shell]

Nah

[hollow sedge]

i aint finding gold or the B one, taranite is it

and very small quantities

[raw shell]

I only go for taranite and quant

[hollow sedge]

i found some quant but it blew up on me

or infront of me

[raw shell]

Good practice 😄

[mighty orchid]

back in a days when I mined alot, I prefered quantity over quality

tier2 is good to go, tier1 is amazing addition, quant is jackpot

you waste too much time on scouting for t1

and cracks are not perfect so you scoop more trash

[hollow sedge]

No idea what any of that means

[raw shell]

I brought a refined load of taranite yesterday for 1.5mil. Was very satisfying

[mighty orchid]

ore "tiers"

essentially you mine everything above aliminum

[hollow sedge]

i have seen ALOT of alranite

i jsut need money

[mighty orchid]

laranite is still ~3k per SCU

[raw shell]

That's a little outdated. Taranite is king now, under quant

[hollow sedge]

more than cmats

i did 2k scus of cmats today

made like 3.7m

or smth idk

but i was 1 of 2 guys

[rare garnet]

any ideas on salvage stuff for a vulture, just bought one in game

[mighty orchid]

get Abrades, salvage panels

thats it

salvage panels RS signature is always 2000 x N, where N - amount of panels on spot

biggest I've seen - 20k

[rare garnet]

there ain't no salvage stuff at lorvilles T&S?

[mighty orchid]

seems like nope

Crusader superior

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451743298449702955/1310941382545768468/image0.gif

[rare garnet]

Dark mode Orison, when?
it's like a frickin flashbang, especially during the day time

[outer ridge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/92000849236066304/1155686710915645540/fuck-crusader.gif

i love crusader

[rare garnet]

[coarse ember]

Afaik nah, ik you can find abrade modules at area 18 retail -> dumper depot and Cru L1 -> refinery or the platinum bay in the Galleria

https://finder.cstone.space/ShipSalvageMods1/98e0e5ac-3a76-4f3f-be2f-7fabf65a8826 here's every spot you can buy them from

[rare garnet]

did find them in Everus Harbor, so we all Gucci owo
(am here mostly because I am partially waiting for the next fun phase and to haul cargo till I max rank that stuff owo

[craggy tapir]

36k for me

Were part of a reclaimer crew

Each of us got 550k

1.65mil with the org getting around 400k

[rare garnet]

if only miners had access to a tiny lil contender like the adorable and cute lil Orion
salvage sure feels like the games current easy money maker by a landslide, currently I can get about ~1 mil per cargo hauling run

[hollow sedge]

If you do CMATS then you can easily make a million with a hour or so of work

Follow someone doing bounties

[sonic fiber]

Tried to autoload into a stored hull a. Terminal showed loading. Called ship. No cargo

Oh well

[hollow sedge]

We made 2.1m in 2 hours then 30 minutes of unloading. Then another 1.6m in 3 hours but we had several hiccups

One barely crewed reclaimer

I was solo on the reclaimer for the 1.6

We sold at loreville both times

[sonic fiber]

Ah the days when cmat was 15k. That was like a good rush

[hollow sedge]

Just you sacrifice your sanity to unload 1k scus

[sonic fiber]

Hammerhead missions....

[hollow sedge]

Out of the reclaimer

[sonic fiber]

And now my spindle won't open

[craggy tapir]

I did

[flint forge]

you building a tower?

[coarse ember]

tower stacking comes included with the job

[flint forge]

yes this looks fun

[sonic fiber]

Are you Auto unloading or manually getting the boxes out of the recliner.

I had trouble fitting them out the door

[coarse ember]

usually i manually unload, those 2 pics are from before autoload/unload was a thing so we still had telporting cargo that would just appear and disappear from the grid

[sonic fiber]

My reclaimer got wiped in 40 but I hadn't used it since cargo change since it wasn't designed right for that and auto wasn't working properly anyway

It'll be a while before I earn enough to get one again

Especially since elevators aren't working so can't leave seraphim

[coarse ember]

for a short bit in .24 i was able to do come reclaiming before the 4.0 wipe, it absolutely sucks getting those 16 scu crate through elevator and usually i'd just take the risk and repair bill to clip them out the back of the reclaimer

[sonic fiber]

I sure hope somone is working on a simple ramp

[rare garnet]

the pain of seeing someone with a reclaimer unloading with the liftiwaitor instead of it's rear end opening xD

[abstract meadow]

If I placed a work order yesterday to refine my materials at one refinery (processed at CRU L1, but I moved to a different refinery (MIC L1), can I gather my work order from a different refinery?

Or do I need to go back to my original refinery to gather the first work order?

[knotty dove]

original refinery

[midnight grotto]

Is anyone up for giving me a job as a Cargo mover for a reclaimer?

[mighty orchid]

Try #looking-for-session

[sturdy geyser]

and actually titanium is a really nice one too because it breaks well (clumps) and sells for more than the other low ores. I love to mine in places that have taranite/titanium rocks.

[sonic fiber]

Ok new hotfix, let's see if I can actually get out of the station now

Ok got as far as waiting for hangar to open

10 min wait

[sonic fiber]

Completed a delivery. So far so good

Can a hull a dock?

[outer ridge]

no!

[sonic fiber]

Dangit

More fun than hangar

Except for all the getting out and getting back in

[candid bay]

Only ships that can dock at all are XL ships.

so 890, polaris, Hull-C... That all?

not sure

[mighty orchid]

HH

[tall karma]

Meh I did an auto load commodity trade run last night and it took 12+ minutes to load my C2 with 640SCU and another 5+4 minutes to unload with a 10 minutes wait for demand to restock for a total time of about 45 minutes to make about 400k.

Auto-load/unload should have a slider to speed it up for more cost TBH. Idle time with nothing really possible to fill that time makes the game seem incomplete

[sonic fiber]

I've done autoload twice now for hull a, and it says loading, then no cargo when I retrieve ship

Oh well

[tall karma]

That happened to me but one store + retrieve and the cargo was there.

[crystal citrus]

anyone got contract cargo hauling ship recommendations? I tried out the taurus but I wasn't a huge fan of the cargo bay

[pastel flame]

C2

[rare garnet]

I do fancy the carrack for my cargo runs

[jade stone]

if find the taurus really nice for me with the tractor beams

i just need to do upgades but i dont know what i should put on it cus im prob going to doing bontys

[ashen oyster]

I started cargo hauling missions with the hull A, then upgraded to the RAFT. I started using the Taurus for bounty missions then took it out on some experienced cargo runs and was quite surprised at how well it did. The tractor beam is great for unloading the cargo area quickly.

I upgraded to the C2 now for Senior missions

[crystal citrus]

hmm, maybe I'll give the Taurus a shot again later, maybe it wasn't really the Taurus itself, but the cargo snapping driving me up a wall lol

[peak snow]

Reclaimer should be able to imo

[sturdy geyser]

of course i find this when im in my miner instead of vulture

[mighty orchid]

finding panels not really a big deal

[sturdy geyser]

ya, but 26k???

ive never seen so many at once

[mighty orchid]

yeah, you wont be able to salvage it all in one go anyway most likely

[sturdy geyser]

reclaimer for something that big

[mighty orchid]

tho, depends which exact panels there are

might be alot of small ones

[sturdy geyser]

true

[narrow needle]

I miss those 200k salvage runs

[peak snow]

Yeah... Green eggs and SLAM....

[narrow needle]

YEAH THOSE DEVIAL EGGS

[hoary hinge]

probably a silly idea, but as the Polaris isn't available for sale in game could one tow a vulture with an SRV, use the SRV cargo grid for extra storage, then tow again back to the station?
I note that the SRV has only 12SCU according to spviewer, dunno if it has good offgrid.
I have assumed the vulture doesn't fit in the carrack's hangar

[granite maple]

Okay i have this weird issue with my refind goods from mining, everytime i try to transport a haul in my cutless black it doesnt show physically but it does say that my ship is partially full. So i then fly to orison to sell my mined goods, store my cutless black, go to the terminal and try to sell it directly from my cutless and thats saying my ship is a invalid inventory. Am i doing something wrong?

[pearl juniper]

I have been seeing the same, ship comes up "empty". Send it back down and retrieve again and it comes up with the cargo. I have not tried to sell from the ship this patch, manually unloading is generally more reliable though.

[sharp swift]

Is anyone having trouble salvaging? I get to a panel patch and they show up as 'no target'

[sturdy geyser]

Sometimes the names are wrong in the commodity terminal. Check all the other ships and things and see which one looks like your ship

[unkempt cove]

Hello

[hollow sedge]

what should i put on my helix for ym prospector

idk what to do for modules

and what are gadgets

[austere canyon]

is there a way to put insurance on gear, like armour and stuff

[spare cloud]

Nope

Not yet

[slate spruce]

One Focus III and one Rieger C3

[rare garnet]

one can stack Rieger C3 (have x2) and then supplement with gadgets for the narrow window instead?
Like the Waveshift gadget instead of a Focus module for extra passive power. or one could just go with Surge, heck even double Surge for a lot more temp swift power

[obsidian elm]

it was recently recommended to me to use the c1 spirit instead of the freelancer max. I am failing to see how the c1 would be a better option when im able to fit another 8 (4 scu's) and 6 (2 scu) just in the back of the max without using the middle storage, what am i missing here?

[mighty orchid]

you can load C1 offgrid, walkway is wide enough for 1 more 32 SCU

[spare cloud]

The tractor beam and off grid space

[mighty orchid]

and then you have free space near the ramp

[obsidian elm]

offgrid as in , not stacking it on the snap spots like in a vulture? how you can add an extra row?

so realistically then, i should be able to fit a row of 4 scu's down the middle then too right?

[spare cloud]

Like this pic A whole 2x2x(2 to 8) fit in the middle

[obsidian elm]

its def a thought. i have 8 hrs to decide to melt the max for the c1 anyway. i just dont want to hinder money i can make hauling since im taking a break from salvaging

if it ultimately only comes down to the max being able to hold a few more 2 scu boxes then i can see why the c1 would be better off and cheaper

the zeus mk ii cl looks pretty nice too lol

[obsidian elm]

is there a website that i can calculate scu sizes to my ship so i know exactly what i can fit in as a noobie hauler?

[mighty orchid]

not for offgrid

as it depends on how effective you are at loading and what container sizes you load

[flint forge]

its just depends on how much personal space you can fill with cargo

if a ship has a side door you could fill the full pathways of a cargo hold because you can use the side door

[slate spruce]

No such website exists for offgrid, but since there are 5-6 most common ships used for hauling, it's easier to just ask people who have experience with them, or wait for a free fly and test them. Some of them look good on paper, but then you realize that in reality they're a pain for you (bad pilot visibility, too slow, too tight cargo space leading to constant collisions when loading, constant running around when loading, impractical cargo grid shape, etc)

[obsidian elm]

sounds good. i mean im tempted to ditch the max for the c1 anyway even just due to the primitive interactions with it. Half the time, hovering over the cargo doors dont prompt me to open close etc

idk why they havent added mounted controls to every ship

[slate spruce]

The freelancer is one of the oldest ships in game, and long-overdue requiring polish

[obsidian elm]

its really making me consider melting it when i can in 8 hrs. im just super torn now between c1 or the zeus even

i just dont know how much money i can actually make with 64 scu of space. right now doing 55k missions doesnt seem very profitable with how much time it takes to load unload etc

[slate spruce]

If you want to stick to hauling, it's better to have a grid - the most profitable way for hauling is to stack smaller contracts with same destinations, and then it helps to be able to create a fixed on-grid stack for each destination. If you want to trade, you need space for as-big-as-possible containers, bcs it greatly saves loading time when you have to stick in only 3 big ones, rather than ~26 to fully load the ship

[obsidian elm]

so if i want to trade, then melting down to the c1 would not be the good idea theoretically. id want to stick with the max or maybe even upgrade to the zeus

or go to c1 and stick to hauls that have 8 scu, 12 scu 32 scu cargo?

bc thats what i did yesterday when i first got the max, i went to area 18 loaded up on 4 contracts that had 8 scu and 4 scu deliveries to one single area and made like 280k off it

but i know thats not going to always be the case

[mighty orchid]

I do small hauling contracts with Zeus ES no issues, offgrid even gives you advantage as you can stack more

[slate spruce]

C1 is good for trade, you buy 3x32 SCU (or 6x16, if it's outposts that don't sell size 32), and load it quickly. If you'd want to fill your Zeus cargo bay with your purchases, you'd have to buy and load 26+ containers of different sizes.
But if you want to haul contracted cargo, then the Zeus' grid will help keep the stacks organized, whereas in the C1's middle area they'll fall apart.

[mighty orchid]

33 SCU in Zeus ES

grid not even touched yet

[obsidian elm]

i assume, once i learn cargo, the overall better choice is to NOT do contracted, and figure out trade routes myself where i invest money and turn for profit correct?

i was going to learn routes myself way back, but that was before they had chances to save cargo with server crashes, and pple were losing millions 8 times a day so i might feel better trying that now with server meshing at least.

[slate spruce]

Assuming sufficiently bug-free universe, yes

[mighty orchid]

thats why I prefer hauling missions

as you got paid for moving stuff and have no investments

[obsidian elm]

thats what im doing now is hauling missions

[mighty orchid]

so you lose nothing when game freak out

[obsidian elm]

i fell in love with atls, so im stoked to keep using it. ill have to make up my mind in a few hours i suppose

ill just have to learn and be careful with what contracts i can take in the c1 then to make sure i have enough space to stack contracts

[slate spruce]

Pre-4.0 I've reached Experienced with small hauling contracts, and found that even when stacking all missions with same origin+destinations, you can fit in 120 SCU around mT (with distribution centers).

[obsidian elm]

i assume im not squishing 120 scu into the c1 tho lol

[slate spruce]

Nah... but you can always buy something bigger in game (I'm flying Taurus, it's not ideal, but closest from the given options)

[abstract meadow]

If I completed a work order at a refinery (example: CRU L1), does it matter where I sell - as in the further I travel to the refinery, the more the value of the ores will be where I sell if I go to either New Babbage or Area18 at their T&D department?

[slate spruce]

Not necessarily, you can mine anything anywhere (though different places are more likely to spawn different ores), so it's better to just check https://sc-trade.tools/ where the commodity sells best. It can very well be the nearest TDD, or it can be in the other starsystem.

[abstract meadow]

Also one of my work orders did not transfer to my stored cargo hauling ship when I collected it. The work order is no longer at the refinery terminal, but when I went to my ship at the hangar, the refined ore cargo is not in my ship.

Is there another place I need to look? Is this a bug? I'm bummed that I waited to complete this order over 24 hours after mining and now I can't find it 😢

[mighty orchid]

it is a bug

I've seen mentions of cargo(not specifically cargo from refinery, just any cargo) disappear

[knotty dove]

yeah it does, but its not always and two things need to ocure first for this bug to have a chance of appearing: 1.)store your ship 2.)use autoload

[obsidian elm]

yea i might just use the freemax till i make 4 mil so i can try taurus in game

im just tempted to melt it since they havent fixed or done anything to it since it released. and it shows

[mighty orchid]

you can rent Taurus
https://finder.cstone.space/ShipShops1/d1c3fa10-b2d9-421e-8301-97dbf4d0c115

[obsidian elm]

prob a dumb question, but can i stack 8 scu box on top of another safely in the taurus?

[hollow sedge]

idk what the gadgets are

where would i go to mine in stanton?

[rotund flame]

The size 4 boxes don't stack. But you can stack 1 layer on top of or under the size 4

So the 1x1, 2x1, or 2x2 can all sit on top of or below

[slate spruce]

"Safely" not. The official cargo grid has height 3, but there's plenty of open space above it. There are missile racks on the sides, but the middle 2 rows can be stacked to height 4

And the middle section of the cargo area can have height 4 across its full width. You can walk around the cargo bay and note where is the machinery hanging from the ceiling

[rotund flame]

That's unlocked from the grid though right?

[sick vortex]

What's the best planet/moon to mine on in stanton?

[pearl juniper]

maybe if they adjust commodity prices to incentivize trading, or you have a very large ship. But with small hauling missions pay 5k+ per SCU hauled, there aren't many if any trade routes that can compete as far as I can tell. Not with a smaller ship anyway.

[pastel flame]

Maybe once the Hull C is reliable.

C2 is okay, you can do pretty well without missions, but you're taking on a lot more risk.

[obsidian elm]

im just stacfking multiple 50k trades between 2 close sites

making about 250k each run its not too bad

[royal hamlet]

Thoughts on the RAFT?

[cedar marsh]

does anyone know if the mining information in pinned messages is still accurate for 4.0?

[last karma]

raft looks amazing but trying to load 4/2/1 scu boxes is terrible

[pastel flame]

They are mostly still representative of things Sathier, but there are new minerals and some subtle changes. You can find values on uexcorp or sc trade tools

Anything particular you want to know?

[cedar marsh]

Value isn't necessarily what i was looking for, i'm looking for the ore distribution in the various belts and systems.

Like, where can i find Gold most frequently, etc.

[pastel flame]

I have done a lot of scouting, it's pretty even distribution but for a few minerals in particular. If you are looking to do the best prospector mining currently available, I'd point you to the Terminus belt.

[cedar marsh]

What is out there that makes it so valuable? Quantanium?

[pastel flame]

Well, it's partly about the distribution - there's quant, taranite, bexalite and gold in high amounts. But it's also about the very easy distance to the Ruin refinery, and the fact Ruin also buys taranite after refining.

[cedar marsh]

That's pretty good.

[pastel flame]

If you want to hunt for Stileron or Riccite, you're more likely to find it in an asteroid field distal from a planet. But the Terminus belt is absolutely awesome.

[cedar marsh]

Aren't pirates a concern? Like, the NPC ones not players... i know players are a threat.

[pastel flame]

I have cracked literally a dozen rocks within 50km of *Ruin station and never been attacked.

If you're feeling twitchy, just decouple at max nav mode and drift for 200km

[cedar marsh]

Alright. Any advice for getting to this terminus belt? Is it as simple as going to Terminus and floating or is it like the Aaron Halo from Stanton

[pastel flame]

nothing so onerous as that. It's literally the belt Ruin Station sits in, around Terminus 🙂

Similar to Yela

[cedar marsh]

Well cool, I'll have to take my prospector over there and give it a try. thanks for the tip my man

[pastel flame]

Onward and upward! o7

Here's a pic of a recent crack I did with Ruin in the background.

[cedar marsh]

Do you believe it worth refining the ore first?

[pastel flame]

In almost all cases, yes.

One more thing - when you find out, don't abuse it.

[cedar marsh]

I got like 76k selling raw ore once. Makes me wonder what it was worth refined.

[pastel flame]

Hate to be cryptic but.

[cedar marsh]

I mean i don't enjoy bug abusing. I enjoy playing the game. Abusing those kinda unintended things ruins the experience.

[pastel flame]

This is the way!

[cedar marsh]

I had that on GTA Online. found a big bug that multiplied heist earnings.

By the time i finished exploiting it i had like 2.4 billion dollars.

I bought everything i wanted and then some and I still have like 1.5b.

And now i have very little desire to play because i have no reason to try to make money.

I learned that lesson very well.

If i do find it and can reliably replicate it I'd prefer to report it.

I don't want another eco wipe.

[hollow sedge]

this is gonna drive me crazy

[cedar marsh]

bro that's an insane amount of taranite wtf

[pastel flame]

There is a ton of quant and taranite out there.

But being able to refine, send to ship, call ship up and just move it right into the cargo elevator? Avoids so much risk and so many bugs.

[hollow sedge]

nice

i just got my prospector i'll have to go over there once i have enough money to refuel

[leaden monolith]

It depends on what you're using it for. I use it for trading between stations and sometimes cities. 3x32 is really quick and easy to load and unload which avoids the added cost and possible bugs of autoloading. I'll buy 3-4 trips worth of goods then just fly between hangars until it's time to sell.

The only thing I bothered to upgrade was the Qdrive. I went with the Hemera for speed and range plus one of the quickest cooldown times.

As for the ship itself it has a great layout and just looks and feels the part. It handles like a beached whale on valium but you get used to that pretty quickly. You're not going to get rich quick but you're also not risking a whole lot per trip. It's one of if not my fave smallish cargo hauler.

[royal hamlet]

I have yet to try auto-loading cargo. No clue how that works but I'm assuming once you get into the hundreds of SCU you consider it?

Would you suggest I wait and save up for a better cargo ship in that case? My fleet is small and I'm slowly building it up (Cutlass Black, Terrapin Medic, Bucc, F7C Hornet).

Because I don't want my next ship to basically replace the RAFT so quickly, if that makes sense?

[mighty prawn]

Can Vulture hold 23 SCU in the cargo + 13 SCU in the buffer, total of 36 SCU?

[wintry pawn]

is the reclaimer better than the vulture for solo?

[hidden chasm]

Depends on your patience for swapping seats often. If you can tolerate it, the Reclaimer is hands-down better.

Plus if you ever want people to join up I'm told you can post "Anyone want to go on a reclaimer run?" in here and have some hands on deck real quick.

Faster scraping, better scraping, obscene storage especially if you make a jenga tower in the elevator but leave a sideway for your character

The only problem with the Reclaimer aside from handling like a cow in space if you're on KBM is it does one thing and one thing only, it can get old real fast.

It does it the best but that's all it does.

In addition you'll be left alone more often from my experiences because your ship is extremely tanky and your shields are as well. Every now and then a Polaris or Tali will ruin your day.

[hidden chasm]

As for me I popped into this channel for how this works.

I'm mainly curious about if the Hull series can autoload and unload without issue now.

[leaden monolith]

@royal hamlet Realistically you're looking at Raft, C1, HullA and Cutty Black in the under 100scu range. After that you're looking at Zeus and Taurus before you get to the big boys of Cat and C2. If you can wait then I would recommend the Taurus as the Zeus' cargo bay is just a mess imo. Plus the Taurus is sort of like the Cutty - it's a great all rounder.

Autoload/unload is realy easy. Fly to hangar, store ship, got to trade terminal, sell cargo. However it is also buggy and you can lose cargo/money.

[hollow sedge]

why cant i crack this

i was able to crack another impossible one

[royal hamlet]

So, you accept Hauling contracts then manually load, after that you can auto-unload? Or can you auto load and unload? I’ll look up some videos but my quick searches didn’t help me understand tbh (probably just me).

[coarse ember]

hauling contracts you dont have auto load/unload, you have to manually load it to and from the elevators

[rotund flame]

Taurus is handy for that with the built in tractor beam

Does the cargo grid capacity count for commodities? Is there a different storage for that somewhere?

[hollow sedge]

can you mine planetside with a prospector?

i tried mining some aphrodite and i instantly overcharge it

[halcyon knot]

Hey folks im thinking of getting a prospector for some mining in 4.0 not done any yet been to pyro once! What are the best minerals to be aiming to get now any tips or advice would be GREAT

[coarse ember]

what you want for stuff like aphorite, dolvine and hadanite is a roc or multiool with a mining attachment, ship mining lasers are just too powerful and instantly blow em as you've found out

[hollow sedge]

Oh alright, I don't got a ship capable of carrying a roc

[coarse ember]

you can rent both a roc and a cutty black from refineries, just be aware the roc can be a pain sometimes getting it into the cutty black cause of the wide tires

[hollow sedge]

im likely gonna buy a C1 Spirit after i get done with my pyro missions

[cedar marsh]

@pastel flame Wait, how does your Prospector have 48SCU of storage

[coarse ember]

they swapped stock prosector bags for mole bags

[hollow sedge]

you can do that??

[cedar marsh]

So is it the Argo Ore Pods I need?

[coarse ember]

yep it's manual tho so you can't just usee the vlm, gott put em in and take em out by hand, dont buy the pods either they'll clip in freight elevator and possibly break it, find a mole in a salvage contract or ask around

[cedar marsh]

Ah. Well there goes 56k lol

[hollow sedge]

my budyd said if you buy 16 1 scu crates you can call the pods up one at a time

[coarse ember]

yeah usually hats when it moves to the 2nd layer where it would just clip into the crates but still kinda iffy

[hollow sedge]

by filling the bottom layer

yuh

[cedar marsh]

Well we boutta give it a try

[cedar marsh]

@coarse ember Interestingly, despite putting the argo pods on, it says I have 0 cargo capacity

[pearl juniper]

Mass is to high. Easy, hard, impossible is just a guide, but some that it labels impossible are not.

That laser will get you up to around 15k mass at that resistance, that rock is 40k

[hollow sedge]

WHATSA GOOD PLACE TO SALVAGE PANELS?

oops

in stanton

[coarse ember]

i usually recommend aarons halo this time with the warning it'll be mostly asteroids but you can find some decent 20k clusters of panels there

for ease probably check around stations or better yet yela belt

[vernal nexus]

what's the best thig to haul rn

[sharp swift]

Where do I go to use the Zeus CL's tractor beam turret?

Found it! Now to figure out how to control this thing

[ornate halo]

It does that until you get ore in

[slate spruce]

"Impossible" is calculated with taking the optimal distance to account. But if you fly closer than optimal, you get more power (and more instability), so you're able to crack rocks that are slightly beyond the Impossible line. This one is far far away from it. The max mass you're able to crack is roughly 5 * laser power * (1-resistance%). Helix I has 3150, with the modules you're at some 22.6k mass for 0% resistance.

[rare garnet]

is the 22.6k with or without the module stacking and is it with or without active ones?

[slate spruce]

With module stacking, without active ones. You can try activating the module when looking at the rock, and it should auto-recalculate (provided the system works atm 🙂). The multiplier to power is shown on the panel down left, as fracture power (144% of baseline on screenshot)

And I think the info also doesn't take laser's resistance reduction into account (the Helix's 70% res. probably reduced the rock's resistance from 24% to 17%), but I haven't done enough experiments to verify it.

[rotund flume]

perfect visual representation of hauling (refer to the people in this video and their emotions)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7aViJJWHa4

[cedar marsh]

anyone know the respawn rate of asteroids or meteors in any given shard

I wandered through some areas and found quite a few rocks mostly mined or broken already.

[naive vine]

Anyone know why whenever i add MOLE modules like the C3 it doesnt add to the power

have 2 C3's and its only at 125 power

[glossy trout]

Is looting components worth anything yet?

[spare cloud]

S4 and S5 weapons are worth quite a lot.

Components, not so much, but if you have rare unbuyable ones, you can sell them for good money

[sick vortex]

I've just refined some ores, how do I get those ores to sell them?

[sly robin]

my friend suddenly lost all his covalex rep, he was member yesterday

[spare cloud]

Get a cargo ship, store it at the station, collect the completed order, go sell at a TDD.

Refined ores will be auto loaded in your ship instantly and without a fee.
Once at the TDD, it'll work like normal cargo, auto unload with fee, or manually for free

[sick vortex]

👍

[naive vine]

Anyone know why after refining quant, my prospector still has the volitile cargo warning and explodes

[slate spruce]

He probably submitted a mission without delivering the cargo (or the cargo counter glitched), or abandoned it. The rep penalties there are disproportionate

[naive vine]

Also we still able to save argo bags on a prospector?

or do they reset on a new claim

[spare cloud]

You should be able to

[naive vine]

hmm mabye did it wrong then

just claimed my ship and its back to MISC bags

[pearl juniper]

bug. I have only experienced this when storing the ship and starting the job from there. If you start the job from a landing pad it empties the ship properly.

[naive vine]

Ahh so dont store it

[halcyon aspen]

Howdy everyone. I bought some commodities to load into my Hull C, but I have to get off for the night. Will the commodities still be there tomorrow for me to pick up from the cargo deck?

[hollow sedge]

If they are in your storage then yes

[crystal citrus]

I'm having trouble unloading my Andromeda using an Atls, once I put the cargo onto it's cargo bay, I can't take it out unless I power off the ship, even then, I have to interact with the box twice because I have to unsnap it from the cargo bay, afterwards I can snap it into the freight elevator. Is there something I'm missing to fix this interaction?

[still sleet]

I've found that you can store Mole bags on a Prospecto and they will persist, but under two conditions. If you rent the Mole the bags will disappear when the rental period is up. And if you reclaim the Mole (owned or rented), then the bags will disappear from the Prospector.

Oh, and CIG have nerfed the sh*t out of mining in the belt.

[spring olive]

Wait, you can start refinery jobs with the ship on a landing pad?

[pearl juniper]

yep. saves a bunch of time usually.

[spring olive]

Today I learned - amazing! Thanks!

[pearl juniper]

you are welcome 🙂

[placid swift]

Hi, anybody knows if extraction is broken in the ROE?

Anybody?

[hollow sedge]

Does the HULL C work in star citizen?

[spare cloud]

It's not entirely reliable, but it works

[hollow sedge]

And would it be worth it cause either kinda wanna just do big cargo

[hollow sedge]

How unreliable is it?

[hollow sedge]

Damn

[peak snow]

This is a story in pictures lol

[molten falcon]

Worked fine for me, did a couple of hours with the ROC and no worries.

[placid swift]

Yeah, I’ll give it a try tonight, it could have been a server issue. Thank you for letting me know ✌️

[halcyon aspen]

Is Ammonia broken? I can buy it and load it up in all sorts of SCU container sizes, but I can't sell it anywhere. It just tells me the station can't take containers of this size

[balmy kelp]

idk if this is the right place to ask but yoiu guys might know more about the elevators. is cargo storing bugged? i stored some ship components i bought at other stations and theyre gone from my local

[hollow sedge]

if i average 300k a round, so like 6 missions a piece then it wouldnt take to long to get from 3m to 18m, ye?

for hauling

[limpid sluice]

Sometimes takes a few minutes to sync up, if you want, you can relog to force it faster

[balmy kelp]

ok ty

[limpid sluice]

From what I'm seeing on uexcorp, it's very likely yes

[rotund flame]

Is there any rentable salvage ships?

[limpid sluice]

Currently, not that I'm aware. They were supposed to be made rentable, but hasn't happened yet

[rotund flame]

Anyone tried both the fortune and the vulture? Any opinions on the better one?

I've not done salvage yet but the multiple heads would have to make the vulture inherently better?

I looked up a little video last night and this guy was making like 300k in 20 minutes scraping panels with his vulture. That seems like decent money. Just wish the hold was bigger

[limpid sluice]

Vulture is probably better solo, fortune probably better in a group with a cargo ship to unload into

[rotund flame]

I could see that. Fortune out with a taurus. I assume grouped the taurus would be able to tractor the boxes off the fortune and just stack them.

A full taurus of that material would be a ridiculous amount of money

Saving up for a new ship with a rented taurus now. I'm torn on getting a Gladius again or getting a vulture. I might go with the vulture. My Titan is doing alright with bounties right now. Last time I played all I did was bounties. I want more options lol. It's nice having multiple things to do now.

[halcyon aspen]

Any idea how this gets fixed? I have 4608 SCU of Ammonia ready to be unloaded lmao

[sick ether]

When do local salvage missions around a pyro station upgrade?

Or do they never?

Getting sick of arrows lmao

[limpid sluice]

Well, looks like it's fixed in the sense that I'm sure next time you'll make sure you can sell stuff before you buy 4600scu of it lol

But otherwise, you're probably shit outta luck, unless you wanna try and store it all and hope they add buyers before a patch wipes the cargo

[halcyon aspen]

Well I figured I could sell it, UEX at the time didn't seem like it was showing any issues for Ammonia.

[limpid sluice]

How long ago did you buy it? Uexcorp saying nothing for the last 15 days

Guess sc-trade.tools is more on top for once. Have you tried the Stanton gateway? They're showing inventory on there. Maybe they'll take it?

[halcyon aspen]

Getting through the warp would be a little tough as the Hull-C us so unmaneuverable when its 12 tons heavier than normal. I could try that. I went to Baijini and Everus. I have to go to somewhere with a Cargo Deck so I mean. I can try it though.

I bought it yesterday from Seraphim.

[limpid sluice]

Maybe worth just pulling off a container and put it in a small ship just to tote around until you find somewhere that for sure buys it

[flint forge]

i'm still moving stuff around with intrepid, it feels like a waste to rent something when i spent 3 hours or more on a single hauling mission

[hollow sedge]

vulture at refineries im pretty sure

[hollow sedge]

rent a hull a for less than 40k, go to one of the stanton main stations like seraphim. then fill it up with a bunch of 8 or less maybe 10 or less hauling missions for 40k

i made 300k going from seraphim to august dunlow in one trip

[hollow sedge]

hows the hull c been?

[rotund flame]

Ooh nice. I'll have a look when I get on. I kinda wanna try some salvaging.

[hollow sedge]

ye it'll come with 2 cinch heads and one abadre or whatever it is called

then a tractor

it wont be the best but it'll work

[rotund flame]

I gotta watch a tutorial or something. I don't know what a cinch head is

It'll be enough for me to know if I want to invest in one to have for myself

[hollow sedge]

cinch head is the most efficient but has the smallest area

[rotund flame]

So if you go in to salvage a ship, but you can't carry all the stuff from it, does it stay marked for you to return to it?

[hollow sedge]

the Abrade is 0.9 efficiency instead of 1.0 but it has a much bigger radius and is technically slower at salvaging but covers a larger area

[flint forge]

yeah then the freight elevator breaks i'll be stuck with the cargo that gets marked as stolen, and i'll be 40k lighter

[hollow sedge]

so i recommend not doing contracts, as your going to have times where you don't make what you put into them. I recommend doing salvage panels

you find them in astroid belts

[rotund flame]

Yeah the video I watched last night was a guy doing panels

[hollow sedge]

a good spot is around yela, me and a buddy made 1.03m from a couple hours there

i was in a hull a running his crates

[rotund flame]

Doing that and selling at orison is like a little over 300k for 20 minutes of work

[hollow sedge]

thats a risk with everything freight elevator related

[rotund flame]

When my freight elevator breaks I usually alt f4 and relog is usually fixes it

[hollow sedge]

so basically

cinch: small area, 1.0 efficiency, fastest
abrade: bigger area, slower, 0.9 efficiency

abrade is honestly my preferred

[rotund flame]

The guy in the video said the same

He was selling at grim for convenience but orison would have given him 100k more

[halcyon aspen]

Can't complain, most of my issues have actually been with stations. Elevators and docking ports. Hull C has been smooth sailing.

[hollow sedge]

sweet, thinking about getting one

using a hull a rn

[halcyon aspen]

I am sitting on 4608 SCU of Ammonia that I can't sell... so there is that. Can't really store it anywhere either so. My Hull C is tempoarily out of commission until I figure that out.

[rotund flame]

So what's the problem too many other people sold ammonia so nowhere wants it?

[halcyon aspen]

No. Stations are in demand of Ammonia but for some reason all of them "can't accept the container size"

[rotund flame]

Oh wtf

[halcyon aspen]

Yeah Idk what kinda bug I should even submit it under

[rotund flame]

Is it just too much at once?

[hollow sedge]

just give me your hull c

i'll take care of it

[halcyon aspen]

I don't think so. I can't submit any amount of it.

Lmao reimburse me for my ammonia and sure

[hollow sedge]

i dunno about that one

i got no money

[halcyon aspen]

only 500k man

[rotund flame]

Hmm. I don't know enough about stuff to help troubleshoot it. I've only been back a few days

[halcyon aspen]

Whenever I get the chance to get back on I'll try to fly over to Stanton Gateway. Supposedly they're buying. Baijini Point and Everus give me the same error though.

I don't think Orison has a Load deck otherwise I'd try there too.

[rotund flame]

Can't you manually load it on the freight elevator and go sell at the commodities kiosk anywhere?

[halcyon aspen]

Nah, the hull C doesn't fit in a hangar with its cargo spindles out. Normally you have to go to a docking port, go inside, go to the galleria, sell the cargo, go back to your ship, undock, and fly to an assisnged load deck somewhere outside the space station

I would also not want to manually unload 122 32SCU cargo containers.

or 288 16 scu containers

[rotund flame]

I got you

[karmic vigil]

Why are salvaging missions inside armistice zones? Can't use tractor beam to take cargo. Is this a bug or am I missing something?

[hollow sedge]

you can use ship cargo beams

armistice zones have handhelds disabled because they were being abused

[rotund flame]

Can't find anywhere to rent a vulture. Just gonna have to save and buy one

[craggy tapir]

werent there these contracts in pyro that are just salvage ships with drugs in em?

[maiden narwhal]

that sounds like fun if we had cargo cranes like in shipyards to do so

[astral panther]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovHUcjwUmMw

[maiden narwhal]

if only u didnt get shot instantly in pyro :c as pleb pyro scares me and my smol c2

[pearl juniper]

You really don't

[maiden narwhal]

6/10 times flying in pyro i have been shot down in my c2. 4times in space and 2 times in when i landed i got shot by pirate 😄 well i did have some eggs on me but still its around 50/50 atleast on euro servers...maybe i go to bad places but ehh

[vale vortex]

Is there a way to be able to mine these impossible rocks? any type of mining gadget or something?

[fickle kraken]

You are correct sir:
1.More lasers
2.Stronger lasers.
3.A certain amount of mining gadgets on it. You buy them in store, they looks like matrix of leadership from autobots.
They are different and give different properties to the stone you attach them to.
Some make stone easier to brake, other increase the green zone, they have pros and cons so read, try and be carefull. They can make it go kaboom.
They also explode if you shoot them. Or they got shot, if you caery them on your ass.

I saw a video, where dude mined giant rock by hand tool, but he put a lot of mining gadgets on it

[vale vortex]

I'm using a Prospector so I can just use 1 laser and I think i have the most potent one equipped (Helix I), I'm new to mining so maybe I'm wrong.
The gadgets I have 2 equiped, the mining just allow to 2, but they are ones that don't break, the other ones have uses and I'm scared it is a waste to use them but maybe using them let me break these rocks? or are just too much for a single prospector?

[vale vortex]

Hand tool?

I don't think the multitool allow for gadgets

[fickle kraken]

Multitool has mining tool.
If you put a lot of mining gadgets on the stone, it lowers required power

[fickle kraken]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPI5e91uS9k

There is a lot of videos on mining topic

[knotty dove]

man CIG should revisit hauling missions: i hate that missions with 100SCU-200SCU are max 8SCU boxes

[rare garnet]

So I just unlocked the Experienced hauling missions and got a notch... surprised by the Hull C level of contracts out there..
How does one load and unload the cargo when the external cargo lifts are jsut for decoration and then we have the commodities kiosk magic space box.
Surely one does not need a group of people with multiple ships loading and unloading or going in turns to do these?
(Help new to these changes)

[flint forge]

i was told ( have to experience with it ) that the hull c can get auto loaded and unloaded

[rare garnet]