industrial-professions

[ocean compass]

no issues for me

[austere canyon]

To my knowledge i have followed them exactly. But i just get the “unloading error” message

Tried server hopping. No dice

Thats where my frustration comes from. I try one thing. Dont work. Try the solution that works for most if not all. Dont work. Try to switch content loop. Get mercd immediately

[mighty orchid]

Just head to Orison and logout. Now you won't be able to login again and would have not issues with cargo

[raw shell]

@peak snow you weren't exaggerating, there's hadanite everywhere here.

[peak snow]

Yep! It's a gold Hadanite mine

Very very profitable, if you're willing to stare at a laser and a bar for 6 years

[ocean compass]

where where

Idris?

[peak snow]

Ignis, yeah

[raw shell]

and if you can make it back to stanton without getting shot down

or take an 82k/ cut selling at ruin

Is Jackson's swap a hostile place to sell?

[marble yoke]

Does anyone know a good place to solo mine with a Mole? around hurston?

[peak snow]

Per SCU?

If that's per SCU that's... Bad

[coarse ember]

Aaron's halo, it's a unmarked spot with some extra effort required to get there
From Hurston to arc corp
Stop at 13.5gm from arccorp

From arccorp to Hurston
stop 9.5Gm from Hurston

Other than that there's mining around stations and referring to the pinned sheets here

[raw shell]

Pretty sure it is. I'm looking at uexcorp. jackson's swap isn't quite as bad @19k/ less than most sites in Stanton. I'm new to Pyro though. You're the first person I've heard talk about it that doesn't make it sound like a blood spattered orgy of death everywhere.

[coarse ember]

Tbh pyro ain't that bad as long as you stay away from the big 3 outposts that's people run drugs to/from for profit, most of my pyro encounters have been friendly with the exception of ptu where pyro was massacre heaven

[raw shell]

do you know if Jackson's swap is one of those sites?

[peak snow]

Jackson's has been alright from what I've seen

it's not Chawla's or Shepherd's

[coarse ember]

Pretty sure it is but not to a horrible extent, I've also heard of shepherds rest being a hot zone but can't remember

[raw shell]

Thank you, I'll take some small loads there an test it out

[coarse ember]

Yeah take small load of like maybe 10 so youd only be losing 4k if you die and store the rest at the closest station to make it quicker to get the rest

At least if I'm remembering right one gem of hadanite sells for 457 auec

[sonic fiber]

Welp game is now mostly unplayable. I keep trying to haul and hit gane breaking bugs

Hangars don't open. Elevators don't work, terminals don't work

[peak snow]

yeah, sometimes the game just extends you the middle finger

Can you auto unload one commodity and auto load another at the same time?

[coarse ember]

nah auto unload requires you to go to the admin/tdd terminals away from your hangar, after that you would have to go back and manually unload the other stuff

[peak snow]

Benchmarked my hauling run. Takes a little over an hour round trip, makes about 450K per.

Solid stuff

[raw shell]

I get the impression CIG aims for that approximate income across the board for potential 'careers'

[peak snow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/731345668085514240/1332381853797191692/image.png?ex=67950ccc&is=6793bb4c&hm=eec7598b210d9fda05d2a4b6813be93f1cca05b420425c4c47a047de3d3c9917&

:D

[raw shell]

sweet, fly to monox to get to Jackson's swap, qt to jackson's jump point and the ship controls go completely unresponsive and I just watch helpless as the ship falls right to the ground and explodes.

[peak snow]

That sounds like you lost power

Did you hit U by accident?

[leaden monolith]

I had that happen occasionally in 3.24. Drop out of QT and the controls are unresponsive. I never found a fix other than wait for the game to catch up. Unfortunately the ground didn't wait long enough for you.

[raw shell]

nah it was powered on. I did try hitting U to reboot the ship but no luck. Woke up back in CRU-L1. The game was working for quite awhile since the roc fell through the floor. It was nearly 24 hours since I got a FU from CIG so I was due.

I think I'll go back to glitching Vaughn runs to farm cargo. It seems like the only thing that works is to play with the games broken shit.

[peak snow]

Cargo works

Hauling works, but outpost elevators don't

Trading works if you don't call from ASOP

[raw shell]

biggest ship I have is the taurus, doesn't seem big enough to really matter with cargo

[raw shell]

what does this mean? calling your ship from ASOP when it has cargo?

[peak snow]

Yeah

[raw shell]

ah

[peak snow]

Don't do it from the lobby, do it from the hangar

[raw shell]

meh I was excited for that hadanite planet. damn bugs.

My prospector won't equip a mining laser now too, so mining is out LOL

anyone know a workaround for that? I tried to swap on a Helix 1, and it wont' save.

just the mining laser, I can take guns off and put them on all day, saves fine.

I tried crashing the ship into the station then claiming but didn't fix it.

tried resynching time with Mickeysoft..

[native bluff]

Is there possible rent Vulture anywhere on game?

[raw shell]

negative but you can find people who will loan you theirs, myself included.

I'm Xotal in game, welcome to send a friend request. Actually I should change that here.

[gentle sail]

Is looting those drug packets in CZs worth it at all? How much they sell for? Or drugs are pointless unless traded at SCU levels?

[raw shell]

https://uexcorp.space/commodities You can see what they sell for here

[gentle sail]

Those are full SCU prices?

[raw shell]

I believe so

[raw shell]

can I fly into a18 with weevil eggs or would I get busted if scanned? Do they still dothat?

[gloomy scarab]

Thinking about getting a prospector, never mined before so have no clue where or what to mine and how much you can make, anyone got advice for a nokb miner?

[tall karma]

Watch a few youtubes

[raw shell]

I watch youtubes on how to mine every release because the bugs and fail changes. Hawks gaming is good, elguapoe just released a couple of good prospector videos and his streaming makes for excellent "shoulder surfing" to see how to mine in detail.

I'd be rocking my prospector if I could get the bloody laser head to attach and save in the stupid loadout manager.

[high grove]

Anyone know if the Hull C loading and unloading is working in 4.0?

[distant osprey]

No, still buggy as can be

[thorny bay]

hi guys

im thinking to start mining

any help?

[tight hazel]

Figure this might be a decent place to ask, how do I use the front S2 tractor on the MPUV Tractor? I can get into the remote turret for the rear one but the front one I can't seem to

[cedar token]

Have a look through the pins. There is a great deal of info there on all aspects of mining. If you have any questions after going through those, I'm sure someone here will be happy to help.

[thorny bay]

ty vary much

[novel forge]

anyone got any advice on making big bucks? i wanna buy a corsair and im at 1.2m

[cedar token]

Pressing m should do the trick.

[cedar token]

Depends on what you enjoy the most. Cargo hauling can be decent money, or doing bounties. I find it best to just do what you enjoy the most, and the money will flow in while you are enjoying the game. Better than doing something you hate, even if it pays better. If you aren't sure what you like yet, try everything.

[coarse stag]

You can rent one, I believe. I can’t remember how much I made when I tried it back in like 3.17 or so but it was a few hundred k aUEC for a few runs. The delay was waiting for the refinery and then renting a Freelancer MAX to transport and sell.

[astral pelican]

Where do I take my boxes of salvage to any TDD and do i put the boxes in the cargo hold

[astral pelican]

I just melted my prospector and got a vulture it takes too long to turn a profit unless you can refine nothing but quantanium

[coarse stag]

Salvage is quicker money, you mean?

I just haul when I’m not doing combat.

[ocean compass]

big bucks can be earned in every gameplay routes. since your here in industrial, i assume no killing

what ship do you have? will recommend you something based on ship owned focused on money making

basic recommendations for new players without seed money is to do Hauling Missions. 50k per mission, stackable to like 6-7 for a short distance is the ultimate money hauler. then if lack of time, can always take bigger missions that has to travel further etc. mix and match to your needs - i timed around 500-600k an hr

[novel forge]

I have a vulture and a Taurus

[ocean compass]

with seed money, and maybe a industrial ship, then do that route. cheapest is hadanite mining in Ignis with a ship that can carry a roc. if you dont have, rent one set for 100k (cutlass black + roc), should earn easy 200-300k/hr

with a vulture no need to think, go do RMC scrapping

clocks 400k/hr

if bored with RMC salvaging, go do some commodity hauling with taurus. that i usually clock like 400k/hr, but way way higher risk. not recommended for people with low risk appetite

^ all these are industrial purposes. pure money making imo is get a 2man group going spam pyro bounties. even MRT spam in pyro is 86k per mission. with a 2man group, those things clear every 5mins. a taurus can do any of those bounties, especially with a grp

[thorny bay]

and about salvage?

i already see there but don´t understand

[elder anchor]

I've not tried this myself

https://youtu.be/nIdR0o5fiS8?feature=shared

[thorny bay]

i already do that

but im died so many times even playing with taurus

i don´t know why

and they nerf to much of eggs price

[mossy radish]

anyone know if the prospector has physicalized components?

[brisk gorge]

What do you mean physicalized? Like components you can change?

[lofty inlet]

Can anyone say me how can i store my self buy cargo from my hull c on the station to sell it later ?

[mossy radish]

you can access the componets, remove them, and swap them out without using the vehicle loadout manager

[brisk gorge]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, thank you

[mild pumice]

The only way is to move it to another ship or ships in space and then store it. The Hull C can only be automatically unloaded at stations. In the future stations will have external loading areas.

[unkempt cove]

is scrap hauling still bugged?

for Scrapyards at least

?

[raven forum]

Is it better to lvl salvage missions in pyro or stanton?

[gloomy scarab]

What's the go to laser for mining with a prospector? New to mining not sure

[ocean compass]

pick your poison

[gloomy scarab]

Yeah this is a lot of info I don't understand

[ocean compass]

left side modules, right side is the max mass it can break, at what % resist

prospector you make a choice between power / stability / charge window

e.g if you want break the biggest rocks you can, you go for helix + focus 3

but you have problem with stability / charge window. stability = the rocks power will surge, not increase linearly, more unstable = larger the surge

charge window = the green window

surge/sabir = modules

[sonic fiber]

Landing my hull a. Hangar closed, ship dissappear, fell to ground and died. Ways to die in SC #368

[raw shell]

dunno why people don't do friends invites but putting the offer out there again. The benefits are joining someone on a low population server or finding someone where rocks are scanning, freight elevator working on Terra mills... etc...

If you see a random friend request from me, that's what I'm doing 🙂

[hallow briar]

does anybody have a caterpillar they can lend for money or a c2

[gloomy scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-ways-to-die-fun-cartoon-gif-10746650

[slate spruce]

Long story short - if you're entirely new to mining minigame, then Hofstede 1 + Rieger C3 module. If you've cracked some stuff already (hand or ROC), Helix 1 + Rieger C3 + Focus III. Such Hofstede allows cracking rocks up to 10k mass, Helix up to 15k mass. Once you crack a few rocks, the numbers will start to make more sense.

[gloomy scarab]

Hofstede might be what I go for

I think that's like middle ground

[gloomy scarab]

Do you have to manually put the bags on and off or can it be done in vehicle loadout?

[slate spruce]

The bags should be on automatically, and you don't have to remove them when they're full. Just leave the ship on the pad and sell/setup job in refinery, it'll empty them. If you want to switch Misc bags for Argo bags, tough luck. You need to find someone who has a Mole (or Prospector with already upgraded bags) and get the bags from them. It can't be done via vehicle loadout, and you can't summon the bags via freight elevator (they snap to the grid wrong and fall through the floor when targeted with tractor beam).

[hidden onyx]

!fit

[jolly dagger]

Can it fit?

Please see title linked Google Sheet for capital ship fitment indexes.

Credit to RubenSaurus

[raw shell]

You can bring them up this way

I recommend one at a time

whether or not they stay on when you have to claim the ship might be another matter.

the first time I used them, the ship had to be claimed after I moved ore to the refinery, despite storing successfully. When it came back it had misc bags again. I don't think I did the vehicle loadout manager hokey pokey dance bug workaround correctly though so hopefully that was why.

[wraith garden]

Does anyone know if the Hull-C works with auto loading/unloading now? I'm thining of getting it but I don't want to get it and then it just doesn't work

[mild pumice]

Works 70/30 maybe, as long as you have a stable server

[leaden monolith]

After doing the hokey pokey there is still a chance you'll lose the Argo bags ub=nfortunately

[wraith garden]

Do you know if it's more reliable on 4.0.1 or is it about the same?

[mild pumice]

I only ran it once, it worked so 1/1 = 100%

[wraith garden]

Oh alright lmao

Thanks anyway

[mild pumice]

Yeah sorry I just tend to try each loop once in PTU and move on

If it fails I make or update an IC

[quiet atlas]

are all quant drive on the Prospector the same speed> site i looked at said yes lol

[mild pumice]

I think the only difference now is acceleration and range, expect more changes with resource management

[quiet atlas]

ahh ok Thanks

[humble merlin]

They're not the same speeds anymore

Example

[humble merlin]

They've had different speeds since 4.0

[novel harness]

What is the best safe-ish trade route?

max 1 mil investment, Taurus

[humble merlin]

Probably any of these

Station to station, all in armistice

[novel harness]

How about more risky?

Also how many of X size boxes can i fit?

[slate spruce]

2x 32 2x 24 14x 4, unless you want to stack something over the designated grid to a total height 4. Which is possible, you just need to avoid missile racks and some other fluff stuff that's hanging over it.

[novel harness]

to fill it up fully? i might be wrong but i think there is some space after putting in a 32 scu one

nvm i misread. all that can fit in one haul, right?

[slate spruce]

Yes (see pinned posts, there are some nice cargo grid layout pictures)

[novel harness]

Alright, Thanks

[brisk gorge]

What is this sorcery!?!?!

[raw shell]

Yeah that was my suspicion. Bugs and fail always wins in SC.

[astral pelican]

so i love slavaging i have only done plates but it has been good does it matter which TDD i sell my salvage too or no

[humble merlin]

Yeah, different places will have different prices

Usually not a gigantic difference so you can sell wherever is most convenient for you

[astral pelican]

alright thanks for your help

[novel abyss]

It's broken. Not a good idea to do this

All cargo hauling is not worth it till 4.1 comes out. I can't get pass member cause 1/15 missions are broken and just moving goods also some stations will blow you up when you enter the hanger

I've lost 3 mill trying to do it

[naive vine]

Are you still fit the MOLE bags on the prospector?

[raw shell]

yes, using them now.

[naive vine]

Nice, is it only tbe freight elevators they fall through, so could i store a few on my polaris and just swap them out when they are full?

[raw shell]

there's a work around for that but I'm not sure what you mean. Normally when they are full you either transfer the ore to a refinery or sell the raw materials

[naive vine]

Like spare bags on my polaris and then just change them out so i dont have to return

Essentially use it as a mobile mining base

[marble yoke]

is it possible to put a size one mining laser on a mole?

[gloomy scarab]

Hofstede and rieger 3 was the way to go, much better now

[coarse ember]

Should be
Usually you can equip anything of that ships max hard point size and below, for example I was able to slap both my andor S3 and S2 repeaters on the S3 mounts of cutty black for weapons

[cloud condor]

what are the biggest self containers you can buy?

[coarse ember]

8 scu
they come in 1/8th, 1 scu, 2 scu, 4scu, and 8 scu sizes

[cloud condor]

thx

[raw shell]

I'm not sure how you'd manage two ships unless mining with a partner. Personally, I wouldn't trust moving full bags around with the state the game is right now. Items fall through the floor and dissappear all the time and the prospector is brittle as it is with changing parts.

It's ni e having 48scu on the prospector. You can bring in bigger hauls

[peak snow]

i've made money, but its finicky

if you call a ship you've autoloaded with cargo from the lobby ASOPs, it'll bug out and you'll likely lose it

gotta call it from hangar ASOP

and even then, it might bug out

[novel harness]

Where do i buy cargo at golden riviera?

[gloomy scarab]

Salvaging panels good money?

[mild pumice]

Check the garages, that's usually where the commodity terminals are

[mild pumice]

The payment per SCU is the same whether you scrape from panels or ships, just depends what you prefer to do.

[gloomy scarab]

Can you salvage at places you mine like mic l1 and such?

[mild pumice]

Yeah they spawn in the same locations asteroids do, look for signal multiple of 2k

8k, 10k, etc

[gloomy scarab]

Also what is the average you can make everytime you fill a vulture? 13scu, not off grid

Yeah anything that can be divided by 2 basically

[mild pumice]

Depends where you sell. Check SC trade tools for prices

[gloomy scarab]

You just sell it at the same place as refined ore and stuff yeah?

[mild pumice]

No. You sell at TDD usually or Pyro Stations

[gloomy scarab]

Oh tdd there's one in Lorville?

[mild pumice]

There's one in each LZ

[gloomy scarab]

Planets yeah not space stations?

[mild pumice]

As I say, check SC trade tools for all the locations you can sell

[stray isle]

Stations will take CMAT, but planets will take CMAT and RMC from Salvaging

[mortal quarry]

@viscid raft just wanted to give a random ping to let you know that you were my first introduction to mining several months ago when i manned a laser on your mole. now its come full circle and I got a mole with aUEC and im always on the hunt for 1-2 folks to crew with me.

thanks for introducing me to what has become one of my favorite game loops

[gloomy scarab]

Is there a limit on how many work orders you can have going at once at the same place?

[leaden monolith]

No

[brittle snow]

how do I switch between mining and fracturing mode now?

[coarse ember]

alt + left click

[brittle snow]

and unscannable rocks is another returning bug I guess -.-

[spice shell]

What's a location you can go to for mining? There's some asteroid belts, right?

[brittle snow]

I just pick a moon and go

I found lots of deposits, but only 1 was minable

and that one had too much mass so it was only minable for a mole or something

it just looks like this... and I can't scan it

😐

another day of CiG being a disappointment

[mortal quarry]

I find that if i approach in scan mode vs mining mode its a lot more reliable (anecdotal). sometimes backing up to about 3km and re-approaching the rocks can also get them to resolve

[gloomy scarab]

I've been doing the same thing, it works

[unique gust]

guys, is Hull C playable for trading?

will I lose money to bugs if I try to do it?

[craggy tapir]

probably

[raw shell]

confirmed twice now, ARGO bags do NOT persist on the Prospector when you have to claim the ship.

[spare cloud]

But did you save the loadout ?

[raw shell]

I did.. removed a gun, saved, recalled ship, stored ship, restored gun, saved, sacrificed a virgin and bit the head off a bat. Bags still did not persist.

I went through this process twice to be sure

lost the bags both times. Hopefully they will fix it, the prospector is pretty fun with the additional storage.

There is an issue case opened on it too - #STARC-148973

upvoting and contributing will help give it visibility

[mighty orchid]

well, I guess MOLE bugs not persisting IS fix

[unique gust]

So I did a test Hull C run. Wanted to buy Steel at Everus... First of all, there are no box choices for Steel specifically. I thought "what the hell, no different what to load for cargo deck right?", so I tried to buy like 50 SCU. And you know what? You can't buy steel.

This game just doesn't want to be played.

[mighty orchid]

when game doesn't want to be played it just crash on loading

[unique gust]

it's the same with Hull C. it's just your brain crashes instead of the game.

[peak snow]

Can the Zeus mkII CL take 32SCU boxes? Not on grid, but off-grid

[mighty orchid]

it can take 2 on grid

ES can take 2 offgrid

[peak snow]

fuck i'm used to the Catty's limit of the 24 boxes on grid

[spare cloud]

You should check the pins

[mighty orchid]

grid is 5x3x8 + 2x 1x2x2

[peak snow]

i've seen the grid, but once again i assumed cuz caterpillar muscle memory

[oblique parcel]

anyone recomends a video or a guide on how to start on mining in 4.0?

[raw shell]

I've always found Hawk's Gaming videos to be helpful in mining

[wraith ice]

how is the caterpillar for cargo contract missions

[gloomy scarab]

Great, you can fit 500 plus scu in it

[wraith ice]

how is loading it?

[gloomy scarab]

Fine, just like loading another ship but bigger

[wraith ice]

are the racter beams good?

[gloomy scarab]

Not for a solo player but they work well if you have someone with you

[wraith ice]

so its hard to load solo then?

[craggy tapir]

Kinda

You can stuff 3 24scu in 1 compartment

[shell sorrel]

anyone recommend places to mine by Ruin?

[mild pumice]

Well you can mine in the ring itself, you just need to make sure you go deep into the ring to avoid being easy prey, you could QT to one of the OM points first too, that's what I was doing when I was salvaging.

[gloomy scarab]

CMT is what you get from factoring right?

[spare cloud]

Fracturing and disintegrating, yes

[gloomy scarab]

Thought so, scraping is what gives you thr good stuff? The RMC?

[gentle river]

How bad of an idea is it to buy a Hull C right now? I'm about halfway to being able to purchase one

[vast mortar]

When it works it's a ticket to easy profit

However, it often doesn't work

[spice shell]

I watched farristers, I think? Chill guy. I then gave it a go with a buddy last night and rented a Mole. Went well!

[tall vigil]

How well does the Hull C work in 4.0?

[mild pumice]

The Hull C is the video game equivalent to British public transport

[oblique parcel]

unpack that please "laugh

[oblique parcel]

it's usable... can be quirky

[finite cosmos]

After losing my patience on a two hour salvaging trip that didn't even fill my banks, I have to ask... what is the current best process to get RMC. I'm used to doing panels but this patch feels slower to do that loop. Like heavily slower. Takes forever to find a panel

[craggy tapir]

either panels, cleaning up around stations or insurance fraud

[ocean compass]

do insurance fraud then

get someone give a c2 to salvage

park near some remote stations

1.5hrs can do 70 RMC

no searching of panels required

[craggy tapir]

my org leader pulls out polarisis and hammerheads to be salvaged

[ocean compass]

like if i do salvage loop i will buy a c2 to self-salvage for sure 😛

those things are not nice to salvage

a lot of weird angles

c2s are excellent

[craggy tapir]

why not m2 for that sweet military hull

[ocean compass]

c2 cheapest of them 2 series

[craggy tapir]

*starlifter series

or hercules

[knotty dove]

C2 will lose appeal as cargo ship as soon as Ironclad drops

[craggy tapir]

yup

definetely

[mighty orchid]

Depends on ease of load and flight performance

I would not dismiss C2

It already outperform Cat and expecting IC flying any better than Cat is pure cope. Roof access is cool and everything, but until we know what is tractor beam reach it is hard to say if it is any good for gravity

[knotty dove]

well it needs to be more than two times slower than C2 for C2 to keep its appeal in cargo over IC

[craggy tapir]

Cant deny the massive cargo capacity

It isn't as insane has the hull c

But still strong

[mighty orchid]

And it easily can be

[knotty dove]

but also suffers form being limitet to hull C trade routes since other routes arent meant for such large cargo hauls

[mighty orchid]

Cat is already ~20% slower SCM

[knotty dove]

on other hand IC has quite a few main engines so it might not be that slow but it will turn like a brick

[craggy tapir]

cant wait for pirates trying to stop "the unstoppable force"

[mighty orchid]

Should I remind "she's a beast, nimble too"

With three main thrusters and 12 maneuvering

Again, we need to see how IC end up before burying C2

[knotty dove]

not saying C2 will be dead since its main role was vehicle transport

[cloud condor]

Anyone know a good trading route where i dont have to wait hours to sell everything?

I have cargo space and money

[ocean compass]

cant share 😛 i hate it when im doing my routes and there's another person already doing it

profits drop massively after like 2-3runs

the dynamic markets thing is annoying

[cloud condor]

Is trading gonna be better after the patch?

[deep bison]

depends on if you want to maximize gross profit or % profit?

Gross profit has way higher risk if you lose it, and it's also the more popular option so more likely to wait.

for % profits these are solid choices, just look up where they sell like the 2nd best and make your route

if you pick the number 1 location you are more likely to run into others competing, 2nd best is way less stress.

[cloud condor]

i'll see, thanks

[terse niche]

when salvaging, what guns/cargo is worth picking up from ships?

[ocean compass]

guns prob ndbs (if sell to players got value).

cargo go to UEX corp and see the prices.

typical is drugs + quantanium

[normal herald]

How does everyone feel about the New Cabbage light that blows you up if you hit it, because it's given me some great practice at this.

[tall karma]

I just ran into a ship carrying cargo classified as "ship ammunition"... nevermind its worth 12 per SCU

[pastel flame]

Covalex mission

You will get ammunition and 2 types of fuel usually

[wind pilot]

https://youtu.be/selRp4K8uiQ

[tall karma]

Actually found it on a Vaughn target... was weird

[pastel flame]

Oh strange never seen that!

Normal to see it with cargo missions

[tacit nacelle]

seems like it's a hard sell for me to swap from the vulture. I much prefer the design style of the vulture.

[leaden monolith]

No mention of buffer size in the vid.

[mighty orchid]

leaks/mined data show 13 SCU

[pastel flame]

They show it in the vid

They zoom right in on the buffer panel, lol

[mighty orchid]

also this, yeah

[leaden monolith]

Thanks for the info. so 24 on grid and 26 in buffer for a total of 50scu

[tacit nacelle]

so how's the overall space compare to the vulture?

(storage of salvage)

[leaden monolith]

If my 50scu is correct then it beats a jam packed Vulture and beats it with no Tetris involved.

[mighty orchid]

12 on grid, 13 buffer

[pastel flame]

25 total

[mighty orchid]

there are two grids 6 SCU each

[pastel flame]

You can also load boxes into the interior but questionable worth

They say that right in the video but I haven't seen many commenters recalling that

[leaden monolith]

2 buffers though right?

[pastel flame]

I think it will be a nice option in relation to the Vulture, only disappointed that we didn't get some Hull-style spindle storage 😛 Instead we got teleporting

[pastel flame]

Great question! Not 100% on that one, I think just the one but

[mighty orchid]

I sure hope they work more on animation

yeah, also think it is just one

[pastel flame]

Same. At least we got a nice prospector update as an aside, lol

[leaden monolith]

I assumed 2 buffers cos the guy says you can print from both sides at the same time and the pic above shows on panel with 13 buffer size.

[pastel flame]

Right, but each side only holds 6

[cedar token]

Seems like just how the Reclaimer handles it. One buffer, and two 'print' stations.

[leaden monolith]

ohhh ok. So 24scu without fudging anything. Not as good as I expected

[mighty orchid]

it is really made to work with cargo/carrier

[limpid sluice]

Buffer is shared between salvage stations on Reclaimer, i expect its the same on Fortune

[craggy tapir]

Where did you get 24?

6 on each side

12

[mighty orchid]

plus 13 buffer

[craggy tapir]

Ironclad~

[mighty orchid]

so effectively 25

[pastel flame]

I think it will slap at places like Starlight too. A lot of people take way too long traveling way too far to find panels, and consequently thinj the trip is worse than it needs to be.

[cedar token]

Unless it is far cheaper to buy in game, I fail to see any time you would grab the Fortune over the Vulture. Of course, it could just be an aesthetic thing. Though I might be missing something.

[pastel flame]

I may melt my vulture for it. Usually I just want to do a quick trip, get through a mission on occasion. If the target is less than 25 scu you're doing it faster in the Fortune.

Need to see how extra storage inside is.

[mighty orchid]

I do think you can load something like 6-8 SCU in rear area

[cedar token]

The choice is obviously yours to make, but I'm not sure if it would be any faster. The time savings on the auto eject to the storage would be nullified by a single head vs two, no?

[pastel flame]

Yeah depends how annoying it eis.

[pastel flame]

Guess we'll see!

[limpid sluice]

I think the benefit would be better cohesion if doing salvage as a group

[pastel flame]

Don't need to have someone constantly clearing the buffer

[limpid sluice]

Feel like it'd be easier to have a couple fortunes, fill up, spit out boxes, just fly by an open cargo ship with someone to pull the boxes off and stack

Yeah

[pastel flame]

More positional freedom for the cargo catcher too

I personally hate the cargo shuffling in the vulture so even if it's slightly less efficient when counting the seconds, fuck it

Vulture remains useful and more versatile for newcomers to the game

[mighty orchid]

yeah, Vulture tetris is annoying af

glad CIG added automated grid

[pastel flame]

Yes.

I think ppl underestimate how long multiple box prints/shuffles take them for a total run.

[limpid sluice]

Still hoping for a mid sized salvage, but this might suffice to be an okay compromise

[pastel flame]

Unfortunately that would require too much genuine effort on CIG's behalf at this point.

[mighty orchid]

ARGO RAT - modified MOLE
2 scrappers on a side, fracturer undernose, no grid, just huge buffer and external printer

[pastel flame]

PU feeling as skeleton crew as ever

[pastel flame]

Hot af

[tacit nacelle]

this is the really tempting selling. but I love the design of the vulture more.

and it's hard for.me to want to go to a single head and a "lesser" ship design

[sturdy geyser]

anyone ever get in a weird state where your vulture scrapers are being aimed instead of your ship? Like my mouse only moves the scrapers but only in M mode

[pastel flame]

That's gimbal mode, press g

[sturdy geyser]

ahhhh

[pastel flame]

Handy unless you want to steer 😛

[sturdy geyser]

can you trigger RMC eject from pilot seat?

i realize that you couldn't do that with more than 1 box since you would have to move it

[mighty orchid]

no

[sturdy geyser]

so if you had a hauler grabbing boxes for you they would have to eject them for you from inside your ship

[mighty orchid]

if that is Vulture - yes

thats what Fortune gonna be good at

as all salvaged materials are placed on external grid

[sturdy geyser]

i thought i heard fortune was only going to have 1 head though?

[cedar token]

Yeah, one head.

[sturdy geyser]

so vulture is prob better for someone outside hauling the boxes for you?

[crystal owl]

Does anyone kow if cargo will persist through patch at a station?

[sturdy geyser]

yes unless they warn of a wipe, which they did before 4.0 ... so probably not going to again for a while

sometimes patches cause stuff like refinery jobs to be lost

[crystal owl]

I know the refinery orders get wiped, i just wanted to see if I could grab it and put it in hanger if it would be safe

[sturdy geyser]

im not 100% sure if ships cargo gets wiped

I would probably get it out of the ship and put into hangar

[crystal owl]

yeah, it would be in the frieght elevator

[raw shell]

is it possible to shoot out the cargo doors of a reclaimer?

[craggy tapir]

Cargo doors?

You mean the Elevator doors?

[limpid sluice]

Likely be wiped, cargo seems to be in the same category with other things that don't generally persist with significant patches like ammo and consumables

[pastel flame]

The Fortune's rear elevator looks like it has some potential for notable extra storage watching this again

[mighty orchid]

spviewer states there is 4 SCU grid somewhere and it is most likely elevator

[pastel flame]

Yeah, and there's some room around it. I don't know if I would bother because the convenience is king with this thing, but still.

[mighty orchid]

4.0.1 releases is hit for me
Long waited Fortune and finally ditch F8C for SH

[pastel flame]

Certainly looking forward to it for the sheer number of inconvenient bugs already dealt with - in theory.

I didn't dupe my pyro repeaters to have extra in my inventory, but have them equipped. Wondering if I will lose them along with other components as often happens during these.

[sturdy geyser]

wait, really? I am like 60% sure that I had some commodities stored in a station during the 3.24 reset and didn't lose it.

[limpid sluice]

im pretty sure i lost all mine

at least 3 people recently said the same

[raw shell]

I wanted to loot an npc reclaimer with a ton of tarinite but I'm not familiar with it to know how to get at the cargo

[sonic fiber]

How about a salvage ship that extrudes a 32scu container which can be detached. Like a semi truck. Hit print, it ejects a 32scu container out the back into space to be collected

[sturdy geyser]

looks like preview is live now... hopefully everything went ok

[tacit nacelle]

I love the idea of the cargo stuff with the fortune... I just don't think it's enough for me to drop the vulture

I much prefer the design of the vulture

[sturdy geyser]

i assume you can't buy the fortune in game yet right?

[narrow needle]

Anyone like the fortune so far?

[pastel flame]

@mighty orchid

As we suspected, 4 slot grid on the elevator, but also fits a bunch around the lip.

6 is extremely easy

Can see where this could lead

You can line the entire interior if you're thirsty enough

Not worth imo but still

[vestal ravine]

Can you fit one in the tiolet?

[peak snow]

yeah, i lost 6SCU of stims i had lying around

[kindred kestrel]

Fortune or Vulture

I like myself some power wash similar and u think upgrading my prospector to similar gameplay will have me enjoying my free time.

[frozen elk]

You can buy the Vulture in game.

So at least you can give that one a go before spending cash

I just noticed that on the commlink for the Fortune, the background video has an animation for the Fortune's grids

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/comm-link/transmission/20376-MISC-Fortune

[vast needle]

how is the fortune?

[humble merlin]

It is an option

Slower salvaging but higher maximum storage capacity

[small galleon]

I am back from my hiatus. The Misc Fortune is awful. My day is ruined

[pastel flame]

The single salvage head sucks ass. Otherwise nice.

[jagged veldt]

Is surface mining fixed in 4.0.1?

[runic aurora]

whats the best way of salvaging nowadays

havent touched it since the last patch of 3.0

[runic aurora]

also i fuckin hope so, ghost rocks were so annoying ;-;

[jagged veldt]

Still panels I reckon

[fair robin]

Have any Haulers run into this in LIVE or previous PTU?

I have Jr rank with Red Wind, have hauled plenty in Pyro in 4.0. Last night, I couldn’t see any RW contracts, but I had the CFP “First Haul” Pyro intro mission (AGAIN, which I already completed in 4.0). I took the cargo to the destination, got ganked and couldn’t finish it. "First Haul" hasn't reappeared, my rep with CFP is trash from doing HH contracts, so I think I’m locked out of RW contracts now.

[Edit:] I was at Ruin with all that ^. At Gaslight, I got the intro RW contract

[quiet atlas]

anyone having issues with the Prospector? was flying around orison and engine stutters every so often slowing me down abit

[last karma]

not a prospector issue, I had that with a vulture in orison trying to land

[hidden garden]

About 35% slower than vulture

#ccu-and-fleet-advice message

I'm going off this

[earnest hornet]

question: If you end up with a mix of CMAT and RMC, how do you dump leftover of either if you cant create a full SCU?

[gloomy scarab]

When salvaging, are readings over 10k not able to be salvaged? I was getting 22k readings when scanning but couldn't scrape them

[earnest hornet]

someone else beat you to em

[gloomy scarab]

Is that what it actually is? I couldn't even tractor beam them but could see the parts but couldn't do anything to them

[honest bronze]

I really hope they give the fortune a bigger salvage head because rn I’m only liking it because it just looks clean

[earnest hornet]

that's a set of panels that havent fully despawned yet. Eventually they do.

[sonic fiber]

AFAIK you can't. Self destruct will fix it

[earnest hornet]

was worried about that. At least I know now.

[mighty orchid]

could be just a button on salvage printer panel

[sonic fiber]

Anyone noticed if they fixed planet mining yet where rocks are actually minable? Maybe just in pyro?

[sonic fiber]

I like to just run my ship into things when I'm done playing anyway. New ship!

[hidden garden]

No you must keep the same ship alive forever with all it's scars

[gloomy scarab]

Will you get a crimstat for scraping abandoned ships outside of bunkers and outposts?

[spice shell]

I'm ready for an Argo salvage ship, please. My crew really, really enjoyed the Mole we rented. I don't know that we'd want a multicrew salvage ship, and I know the Reclaimer exists, but still.

[narrow needle]

Does anyone like the fortune?

[pastel flame]

It's alright, overall a bit disappointed.

Balancing ships by making the new one salvage slower was one of the choices ever.

[frozen elk]

Anyone happen to have a Polaris that they’ve auto unloaded at Orison recently? I’m trying to figure out what the fee would be to unload a full load of 1scu boxes.

[kindred kestrel]

Fortune vs Vulture tho fr

[pearl juniper]

in my experience scraped panels don't show up on scans. I have flown over to an 8k signature before to find way more than 4 panels, all scraped except for 4 of the tiny strips that were generating the signature.

[spice shell]

They shifted the time spent, so you're not spending as much time on the cargo component. Technically, that's balance.

[pearl juniper]

^I feel like if they put the salvage panel on an MFD so that you could scrape the full 13+12=25scu without leaving the seat that would make it much more worth while, especially in riskier salvage areas like Pyro where getting out of the seat and being blind and defenseless for a while is a potential issue.

[pastel flame]

Yep, and I'd posit balance isn't enough on it's own to make a good design.

[spice shell]

I can support that. Balancing a turd sandwich and a turd brownie isn't going to make me want to eat either one.

[peak snow]

To be honest

Pyro's nowhere near as dangerous as it's made out to be

Panel scraping, I've encountered 1 player, and they were chill

[pastel flame]

Yeah. A lot of people get frustrated at my comment on the balancing but i've come to expect more creativity from game developers.

[fair robin]

Has anyone else experienced this in 4.0.1 as I have (video evidence on my cont.)? Please contribute if you have.
https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-145706#contribution:855d3f7e-53da-4ace-9e94-e46535e9df9a

[peak snow]

Typically salvagers aren't priority targets for pirates - often not worth the time

[fair robin]

Pirates or gankers?

Gankers love to kill a vulture

[peak snow]

Gankers will gank, no matter what system

Not to mention gankers camp places like the gateway or outposts, so you'll rarely encounter one in the roids

[spice shell]

Oh, well it's very evident with the small fighters. That's a glaring area of having bad design just getting shuffled around. But especially there it's highlighted that they eventually have to just give up on balancing, so they powercreep.

And of course beyond the meta of design is the problem of connecting your funding model to selling ships.

[fair robin]

True. I got pirated in my vulture by a guy who EMPd me. My ship floated for 3km after I bailed, and he tracked it until it stopped. I watched him slowly print the depot as I drifted closer, then I unloaded a drum of F55 when I got in range. Thanked him in chat for printing as his buddy in a hornet tried to stop me jumping away.

[pearl juniper]

agreed. But that said I did get blown up the other day by an NPC (in Pyro) while trying to unload my buffer in the vulture. So I still say that having the ability to do that from the cockpit on the Fortune would complete the "convenience" advantage offered by the automated cargo handling.

[peak snow]

I typically jump into deep black to unload my buffer anyway, so I've never had that issue

[peak snow]

Fuck yeah bud, good shit

[fair robin]

Deep Space Printing gang

[peak snow]

Like, 10s in quantum will almost guarantee safety

[pearl juniper]

yep, and that's what I will do in the future. Live and learn. But that takes more time. And if the whole premises of the Fortune is to be more time efficient on the subject of cargo handling, then not having to do that is a benefit. Given the smaller (easily used) cargo capacity AND single salvage head, I think they need to lean harder into that convenience thing to make it worth while

[spice shell]

Love it. This is like those Reddit posts of Call of Duty. Of course with SC, it's about a 15 minute scenario unfolding as opposed to 15 seconds in COD.

[peak snow]

Not to mention, the Vulture is really difficult to board. Can't shoot the cockpit open, and the ladder is a deathtrap

[fair robin]

It should be a bigger salvage beam that goes faster to make the difference greater

[peak snow]

So you can deal with solo pirates pretty well

[kindred kestrel]

Should I get the fortune or vulture I’m upgrading my prospector

[fair robin]

Vulture gang

But I'm curious about the Fortune

[spice shell]

Wait, how is it an upgrade to go from mining to salvaging? Isn't that just a change of industry?

[fair robin]

upgrade via ship store

[peak snow]

Ship upgrade xD

I'm on team Vulture Culture, but I haven't experienced the Fortune

[sonic fiber]

Wait for fortune in game

Don't get the fortune because it's new and more entertaining

[kindred kestrel]

5 dollar upgrade to fortune vs 20 for the vulture

[spice shell]

The real answer is to go into the game and rent the vulture and try that out right now. Then you can have a base from which to assess.

[pastel flame]

Is it rentable now?

[sonic fiber]

$0 if you wait to buy it in game

[spice shell]

I meant the vulture. not the Fortune. I don't know if it is. I haven't had a chance to go play.

[peak snow]

Vulture still isn't rentable afaik

[sonic fiber]

It isn't

[dusty oracle]

Anyone fully stack the misc fortune can it really do 47scu to include buffer? Debating if I’m applying fortune or vulture on my salvage chain

[spice shell]

Well who was the idiot who made that decision???!!? I NEVER would have thought I'd like the Mole, but I'm deeply considering buying it. Never would have happened if I couldn't have rented it.

[pastel flame]

$$$$$$

Marketing

[spice shell]

Well, there is a way to be able to steal a NPC vulture, but I can't be bothered.

[spice shell]

Try before you buy. Even car dealerships know that.

[pastel flame]

Yes in fact when I was a car salesman in my younger years getting someone on a test drive was the best way to sell them on a vehicle.

[dusty oracle]

@spice shell u say that and people buy cars without ever actually seeing them nowadays

[pastel flame]

Car market's crashing right now, lol

offtopic

[dusty oracle]

Hell people buys houses that way to lol

[pastel flame]

Yeah it's dumb

[spice shell]

Well that's because we live in a world where the movie Idiocracy is prophecy unfolding in real time.

[kindred kestrel]

Someone told me scrapping is a lot like power wash simulator and I love it because my ocd 🙏👌

[dusty oracle]

I just curious for fortune if it’s worth over vulture I have both ccu ready to make one or other I’ve had vulture and loved it but need to test fortune

If it holds more SCU that’s nice but how functional is loading more

[spice shell]

Lol, I can see that. What a great analogy. I sued to think those simulator games for the mundane stuff was stupid, but after doing it in space, I'm a believer.

[peak snow]

It is. I love scraping

You can draw dicks on ship hulls too :3

[spice shell]

No one really knows, man. We're all just kinda speculating since it just came out like 12 hours ago. There's the on paper thoughts, and then how it actually works out in game. You probably can't go wrong and including some preferences here is going to help. Buy what you want to fly, and not just what's "meta"

[dusty oracle]

O I don’t care meta I care ease of use ie vulture loading 39 scu is master class Tetris but if loading 47 scu on fortune is like playing checkers I’m sold

[pastel flame]

The first 6 boxes you load interior are very easy. Everything else has to go through a closing doorway into a narrow hall.

[dusty oracle]

Ehhh so it’s like loading the mid cargo on freelancer

[fair robin]

I'd rather play tetris in space

[dusty oracle]

I know that hell

[fair robin]

than fight a door with a box

[peak snow]

I can get like 33 without much issue

I don't bother to minmax it

[fair robin]

39gang

i make it a mission to squeeze every dollar out of my disappointment when someone ganks me unloading 😛

[dusty oracle]

So fortune prob feels like loading the freelancer fighting the door and its narrowness

[spice shell]

Yeah, that kills the 47 SCU benefit if it's not very accessible.

[pastel flame]

I did 2 runs. One with Abrade, then cinch. Cinch makes it fucking brutal. Abrade it's just slow.

[fair robin]

they should have made it hold 12 on each side, not bothered with internal storage. that alone would throw it a bone

[spice shell]

Basically a Hull chassis salvager.

[dusty oracle]

@pastel flame thanks for the info I guess I’ll have to find a org mate with a fortune to do a full test as I know vulture before I lock in my ccu

[fair robin]

^^

if you find a loaner let us know lol

[dusty oracle]

Haha

[spice shell]

If I were to go with one, I'd go Vulture personally. I don't like Drake. I like MISC much more. but the Vulture seems like a much better buy to me. That said, I haven't done it yet because I'd like to see if they cook up an Argo salvager.

[fair robin]

dang argo salvage might make me switch gangs

esp if it was like a mini raft

[peak snow]

Vulture Culture

[fair robin]

although if it was raft-size and a step up, i'd get it and keep the vulture too

[craggy tapir]

I wish

We have a argo cargo, mining and towing ship

[dusty oracle]

I’m waiting on a medium salvager but we will see I am currently sticking with prospector vulture combo for one day crafting / base building to be self sufficient for my support pledges

[fair robin]

I salvaged a mint polaris that i found at gaslight yesterday, unloaded into the cargo bay as I went. Time to sell, I was just chucking the boxes from the top of the ramp with the polaris floating sideway. It was pretty dope. Flew the vulture into the hangar to make jumps

and you betcher buns that i jumped that thing 10s out into space before i started lol

[craggy tapir]

Would like a salvage ship based on the Starlancer chassis

Make drop down cargo a hold

[dusty oracle]

Btw can u gem mine with a prospector or is that only done via hand/Roc mining

[fair robin]

I hope against hope that we get the little conveyors on any salvage printer

[sonic fiber]

I like the idea of ejecting into space and letting a hauler collect boxes

Salvage scrapes prints box into space. Hauler tractors to hold

I suppose you could do that with a fortune if you had somebody with a tractor just grabbing boxes off the side

[spice shell]

I could see them doing a Connie salvage ship, but that does begin to go against the design of that ship. As it is the Taurus is cheating.

[pastel flame]

Problem with any medium salvager is it will make the reclaimer look even worse.

[craggy tapir]

Ironclad

[kindred kestrel]

Yk what whatever I’ll get the fortune, it’s 5 bucks versus 20. And it looks sleeker.

[spice shell]

This is where I'm holding out hope for a Mole-ish sized scraper. It can hold cargo of course, but it would be awesome to basically have a MPUV attached that you can begin to haul stuff off right away to keep the scraping going.

[spice shell]

Well that's what happens when you sell a concept and then don't deliver it for like 10 years.

[pastel flame]

Reclaimer is the prime example of neglect, unfortunately

"Cargo empires"

[spice shell]

I hate to say it, but they need to basically completely redo it. They can keep the original design for the most part, but they need to make it work for the game they built. But because they tied their funding to ship sales, they just straight up lose money doing this. That's why they have Argo ships. They're avoiding an Argo one for now because it will be brutally clear the big picture problems taking place.

[dusty oracle]

I wonder when cargo being lose on deck will ever cause issues like unable to take off or like 3.18 where it could cause ships to go boom

Right now it’s pack it in like a pack rat in everything which is fun in its own right don’t get me wrong

[spice shell]

Once they extend the mining concept of volatility over into Cargo, it'll be a problem. Anything unsecured that contains hazardous materials is going to be a problem.

They've stated this is the direction they're going and because it's already a thing for mining, I believe them on this one. It'll come.

[fair robin]

this is what i wanna try with it too. done it with a vulture before but it was too cumbersome

[fair robin]

agreed. the interior is great until you get to the part that actually functions, or is supposed to

[distant osprey]

Anyone have any info on mining after the update, like is the planetside prospector mining fixed

[tropic nimbus]

any news about disabled xenothreat missions near Gaslight?

[gloomy scarab]

What the go to salvage heads?

[tall karma]

Get a friend with a Nomad extract your RMC boxes to their truck bed with the tractor turret, zip over and sell, by the time they get back hold is ready for extraction.

Connie is overkill even Cutty B is a bit more than needed and more difficult tractor beam.

[pastel flame]

All they'd really have to do is change the rear elevator to make it servicable.

It's a piece of shit that nobody ever uses anyway, just have it open right up with no arms or base elevator.

Just a hole to throw boxes out

[pastel flame]

Abrade

[hidden garden]

Fortune seems pretty mid for the price point when the vulture exists. I wanted to like it, but it seems rather lack luster

All the time you save with the auto cargo grid is lost with how slow it salvages

[gloomy scarab]

Cheers mate

[sonic fiber]

I like the idea of salvage dock, auto unload load. Easy mode

If anything they should boost the vulture grid and make it more mid level since it has 2 scrapers

Larger booty and larger containers

8scu cubes x 8

[earnest lion]

I have 12 1 SCU RMC containers to sell, I've gone to the TDD terminals at Orison but it says "The shop doesn't accept the container size"

Where am I able to sell 1 SCU containers of RMC?

Wait no I'm an idiot, I went to the Municiple Services terminals on the Providence Platform rather than the actual TDD building at the Cloudview Centre

[placid hull]

hull c. could someone explain what is the purpose of this ship? sightseeing? my days with it goes to trying to lure that cube to appear so i can load / unload. last time took me two full days to load/unload 2 full loads. and at the end of the second day someone decided to put missiles on me. so that was the 2nd unloading. what i need to do to get that cube to appear???

[peak snow]

the Hull C's purpose is being a portal to the netherworld, and also wasting your money

[fiery galleon]

Yeah, it’s such a waste of an amazing bit of ship modelling… classic SC

[placid hull]

well i upgraded it to hull d just so i could get c2 as loaner. now i have 3 c2s full of cargo and 2 of them in a station i cannot get into bcos hangar doors wont open... so... i think im gonna really go sightseeing before i break something here....

[peak snow]

Truly a Star Citizen moment

[placid hull]

yes

[peak snow]

If you want to sightsee, I recommend Bloom

Gorgeous planet

[wraith ice]

which is more money salvaging or cargo contracts?

[hidden garden]

Salvaging with no contract

[quiet atlas]

Just seeen Mining modules are stackable again in 4.01 you can run and use 2 Surge modules at the same time Like in the old days 😉

[quiet atlas]

or even 3 surges on a Mole

[kindred kestrel]

Guys I got the fortune

Also got these

[placid hull]

Tried 3 servers couldnt leave station. Turned comp off. Wisest move all day... 😳

[sour folio]

whats salvage like price wise? I saw on SC Trade Tools the price was lower than what it usually is

[spice shell]

Chris Roberts says thank you.

[spice shell]

Well it's about $175 to get into, give or take.

[sour folio]

Nooo im on about in game XD

Already own the vulture but prospector mining rn and just wondering whats worth more time

[spice shell]

Unfortunately I can't answer that one. I believe they adjusted some prices that tools might be a bit off at the moment. I believe in general people are finding more money in Pyro to incentivize play in that system, so if you're able to go there, I would consider it. From what people have said, they aren't getting jumped as often as people claim, but it can happen.

[nocturne crater]

I made 2 x 39scu runs on Vulture today. Took about an hour to fill up.
Lost shipment to pirates trying to sell at Hydrofarm for the small extra bit of cash.. but would have been 700k+ profit, easily.
It's above 11k credits per scu at the Hydrofarm. I sold at Orison once yesterday and I believe it was about 10k credits each.

[peak snow]

Your prices seem about right, according to uexcorp at least

I'm a Pyro player, so there's a good variety of places to sell in there

[honest grove]

Able to find panels in Pyro to salvage?

[nocturne crater]

How's cargo hauling in 4.0.1?

[potent plaza]

Question about mining. can ore bags be stored in station cargo and also sent to be refined from that location or do they have to be attached to a ship

[peak snow]

I've seen a good few panels around

[unkempt cove]

Fuck scrap yards people leave there ships all over and you can haul

can't

[grim bronze]

so new. im havi9ng issues getting the freight elevators to work this normal or am i doing something wrong?

[pure vapor]

servers are struggling tonight.

[pure vapor]

Not that I know of. Usually it needs to stay attached.

[coarse dome]

whats the best way to level up cargo hauling? they seem to have nerfed my old route

[distant osprey]

Anyone test buying extra bags for prospector this patch?

[near swallow]

Still not elevator ready

[near swallow]

Not yet. They don't even function properly on freight elevators, so you do not want to store them because you may not get them back.

[pastel flame]

To anyone asking about the Hull C this patch, anyone searching Hull C in the discord, as of 4.0.1 I strongly recommend against trying to run any bought cargo with the ship. I've run into several bugs despite a first successful run and it's actually been a worse experience than 4.0 preview.

[high grove]

what issues are you having?

[pastel flame]

Cargo being undeliverable despite arriving properly as normal when a sale completes.
Unable to sell cargo after arrival with a full load
Ship becoming "unknown" after storing on occasion as well, which only seems to happen with the Hull C.
Bought cargo unable to load on the ship despite pulling up properly, and getting a repeated comms beep and no initiation of transfer.

[brittle snow]

all these unminable rocks make me sad -.-

anyone has a fix for that or it's just something that's not working right now?

[mild pumice]

Damn cheapskates didn't give me all the cargo then had the nerve to dock my pay lol - 531k still not a bad pay day I guess but 167,750 for a box short is a bit cruel LOL (yes 32scu missing) But hey at least it worked 😄

if these do work better now they're great for linking up, no docking needed just take the next mission and away you go!

hmm spoke too soon I think this one got stuck or server error incomming 😄

[mild pumice]

well it loaded eventually after a long pause but can't offload it the other end, tried twice it will only drop 1scu and then quits. It's rather embarrassing we've had the Hull C in this state for so long, for what seems like it should be a pretty simple system they just can't get it right 😦

This would be a really nice little loop if it worked.

[craggy tapir]

700k

Dayum

[knotty dove]

could do 1mil+ per run if hes brave

[tranquil fable]

having this problem at the moment too

[craggy tapir]

can you use the cargo loading for other ships too?

or only for the hull c?

[tranquil fable]

didnt try, just went full speed into the station in dissapointment lol

ahh i think only the hull c, not sure

[knotty dove]

only hull c

[craggy tapir]

wow...

[mild pumice]

Nice docked my Hull C at the docking port and it was destroyed storing.

I think they should change the delivery missions and have it so each location you go to offer their own set of missions like other games, trawling through 150 jobs for one that's suitable is a ball ache 😄

[mild pumice]

you could do multiple runs I guess but with 1000s of SCU it gonna sux

For the Hull C you just have to request cargo ATC and it will all load and unload for you, when it works of course!

Anyone know if the Freelancer Max will hold 12x 8scu boxes? I'm guess not since a lot of the grid is half height boxes? Even off grid? I know the Corsair can actually hold 15x 8 off grid but not familiar with the Max. Cheers

[craggy tapir]

ew

free max

[slate spruce]

See the pins for cargo grid layout. Fatlancer has 4x9x3 main grid, so max 8x8 SCU on the grid, and there's not much space offgrid in that ship

[mild pumice]

yeah I can see the grid which is why I was asking if anyone knew from experience how many you can actually fit before I try to cram the mission in lol

I took my Caterpillar instead just in case because I didn't want top unload it all to a medium hangar and have to send it all back down again if I change ships 😄

[outer ridge]

700k is a lot! curious about the master rank payout then

is gonna be next level

[mild pumice]

yeah I will let you know when I make it (senior is actually next level)

[outer ridge]

i re started to grind up to master as well! only at member still

[mild pumice]

I'm 3/4 thru (experienced) but it wont be today it takes a while as each mission can take up to 1hr plus the bugs lol

[outer ridge]

also excited to finally use my hull c

[outer ridge]

facts

[mild pumice]

I have a nice loop 3x missions stacking (local jobs) but I fancied a change of scenery

not many local jobs when you get to the higher levels (none in senior as I know from previous patch)

[outer ridge]

I feel that!

[mighty orchid]

8x 8 SCU max

[spare cloud]

But that's the grid. Question was more about, "can it fit ?"
Like in the Connies you can fit a 32 SCU container on top of a snapped one

In any case, I'm dead certain 4xSCUs height don't fit in a freelancer

[mighty orchid]

maybe 2x more offgrid/on ramp

[mild pumice]

thanks I will try for myself when time allows I was just hoping someone knew from experience 🙂

[mild pumice]

I'm 100% sure of that too, it's just whether you can wiggle them in off grid, like I say the Corsair can squeeze 15 in, but alas I left it in Pyro 😄

I did have a look to see if there was a second mission I could stack for the free space in the Cat but no luck

of course if someone at CIG looked at the cargo grids and missions they offer and put some code in that splits out the boxes over 80scu(or maybe even 64 so it's 8x8 max) into 4s then the 90-100scu missions would fit a lot more ships. Sounds easy doesn't it? Or just adjust them so that they're 64-80scu thus including a more diverse range of ships.

[mild pumice]

so it wont let you place them to the sides like the Corsair so maybe if you could do that it would work

even so you'd not be able to fit 3 wide and you only gain a small amount of space at the back

so 10 will fit with 2 off grid at the back, if you could shunt the whole load forward (is there a snap disable key?) then you could fit 12 I think

here's the end of the grid so there's easy space for 2 more = 10 max

[strange kraken]

Mining Mode working for Mole pilot now. Still need to approach in Scan Mode

[mild pumice]

actually! 12 will fit as the last bit of grid is an extra 1scu (good to know for next time)

@spare cloud for info

[copper apex]

I know I'll get an honest answer from this group. Is the fortune really that much worse than the vulture?

[spare cloud]

Pinned ship's cargo grids would be top tier if there was a slight transparent representation of the ships walls around the grid, so you can see the space around too

But I feel like that's a lot of job to add to it

[strange kraken]

IMO, it's not really about if the Mis-Fortune being worse than a Vulture, but more of a Vulture being better than the Mis-Fortune, lol. Reasons? Vulture has 2 salvage heads and more cargo area so you can also use it as a Bunker ship and to do Rookie hauling missions.

If the Mis-Fortune was cheaper, I'd make a case for it, but at the same price point as a Vulture, no thank you

[spare cloud]

It's not.
IMO depends if you'll play solo or not, and how.

First, it's not twice as slow to salvage because half the salvage heads.
It's only about 30-40% slower.

2nd, the external grid is very convenient if you're running with a friend in a cargo ship, who will unload the ship without needing you to step out of it thanks to the external grid.

But if you plan on running solo with a carrier, like salvage ship+ Polaris or that kind of thing, Vulture seems better IMO

[mighty orchid]

I do think Fortune still better for carrier runs

Vulture gonna be better for purely standalone solo salvage

Pack as much as you can in one go

[craggy tapir]

the carrier being polaris or ironclad

[mighty orchid]

doesnt matter in this case

anything related with unloading cargo on the go to continue operation

[mild pumice]

I really want to try the fortune out but going to have to wait as I can't shuffle my fleet at the moment, I think it will be decent with the auto stacking of boxes making up for the scrape rate

[spare cloud]

Or Liberator or even Pioneer, doesn't matter much

[mighty orchid]

Liberator ftw

[craggy tapir]

or idris

[mighty orchid]

Bengal

[craggy tapir]

retribution

[spare cloud]

I just wish Fortune and Vulture tractor beams could be used on their cargo

[craggy tapir]

or the kingship

[mighty orchid]

I'm most likely gonna replace tractor beam for different scrapper module

IDK which setup to run

[spare cloud]

Idk, I wouldn't get rid of it at least on the Vulture.

[strange kraken]

Tractor beam is really handy rolling over ships planet-side

[spare cloud]

Dual abrade + cinch/tractor 👌

[mighty orchid]

maybe

[craggy tapir]

my org leader wants to put the trawler on the 3rd reclaimer slot

tracter+abrade+trawler

[spare cloud]

Trawler is fair for a Reclaimer, if you find a big enough thing to scrape

[viral heath]

so is the hurston moons still the best place for roc mining or should i relocate to pyro>?

[spare cloud]

Aberdeen still good.

Ignis around PyroIV is excellent, but you still need to fly to Stanton to sell

[coarse ember]

Daymar is another spot in Stanton if you don't wanna deal with Aberdeen's heat or the travel to pyro, I have a list of supposed high spawn hadanite spots here but so far I've only confirmed like 2-3

Aberdeen and dyamr are p much the only decent spots in Stanton you'll find for hadanite

Found it

[gloomy scarab]

Anyone found a work around for loadout not saving? I can't change the scraper on the Fortune because the loadout won't save

[spare cloud]

Janalite

[lime vessel]

Arial was great for hadanite aswell post 4.0 . Idk if it‘s still the case now.

[coarse ember]

true but thats hard as hell to get to considering they're static spawns so if you find em once in a cave you know where to always find at least one

[gloomy scarab]

No workarounds? 😭

[coarse ember]

dunno tbh, had the same thing happen but to a lesser degree, instead of replacing my cinch with abrade it replaced my rightside tractor with another abrade even though i had doubt checked it was the right slot for cinch and i clicked save

[gloomy scarab]

It's annoying it saves when I put the sbrade on but as soon as I ckick off mobi glass it unsaves

Yet it'll save if unequip the cinch....

But still won't let me save Abrade on there

[covert sun]

Hey, does anyone by any chance know the distance from the Stanton star to get to the Aaron Halo asteroid belt?

[spare cloud]

Check the pins

[covert sun]

All the guides I can find takes long detours, I know it's supposed to be easier now that you can QT directly to the star

[coarse ember]

dunno direct qt to it but hurston to arccorp stop 13.5gm from arccorp

from arccorp to hurston stop 9.5gm from hurston

[covert sun]

Yeah I have a route right now from Crusader to Arc-L1, but going direct to the star should in theory be faster I think

And, only one distance number to remember no matter where you're going from

I'm surprised it's not more common knowledge actually

[austere canyon]

yall got any good trade routes

im tryna get some more cash

i got about 4 mil to invest. and i have a taurus on rental

[tall karma]

Did you buy the abrade? You may have to tractor beam it on, store, modify a component/save, revert modified component/save to get it to stick

I've had issues just moving parts from other ships in my inventory.

[sturdy geyser]

so I found a bug with mining but I feel like reporting it does nothing ... i guess I made like a milliion auec off it but like... do they even care?

[tall karma]

They especially care if it's easy to exploit to make money in game since there are farmers selling currency and that hurts CIGs currency sales!

[sturdy geyser]

wait, reporting like crashes and stuff that prevents gameplay, doesn't matter

[tall karma]

Nah

[sturdy geyser]

but reporting a currency bug... instafix?

what if i tell all of you the bug so you can all exploit it

[tall karma]

Yup and your IC will be removed from the public eye in minutes

So other players can't abuse the bug

A lot of content creators do that so that it gets immediate attention

[sturdy geyser]

well, if you all do it then they will have to fix it

[tall karma]

Oh they will and might temp ban people that do it to any extreme or at least reset them

[sturdy geyser]

hmm

what is the "extreme" amount we are talking here

is 1mil an exteme?

[tall karma]

No. People have found bugs that lets them get billions in hours

[sturdy geyser]

like all the bug does is duplicates the ore in your prospector

[tall karma]

A mil I can make legit in 30 mins

[covert sun]

Wait what

And here I am struggling to make 500k in 1h lol

[sturdy geyser]

ya, wait, how do you do that

i make like 400k/hr tops

[tall karma]

Could be serious if someone finds the super mining material supposedly in pyro

[sturdy geyser]

it also requires like 2ish minutes total to cause it.. so you can't like... constantly do it

not like "click button, get cash" lol

[tall karma]

166k bounty mission chaining in pyro, 5mins of work, 5 mins of travel between them. Vaughn cargo I could make 500k/hr or 5mil/hr depending on luck

[covert sun]

Aah I see, bounties - makes sense. I guess it'll forever be the optimal money maker

[sturdy geyser]

any of you do like group mining/salvage? Can you get more $/hr doing that?

[tall karma]

Maybe not. Eventually ERT level bounties will require groups and armor penetration to be efficient

[tall karma]

Group salvage with a reclaimer can be very effective

And hauling once you have a route with the right set of missions and a ship with enough room for multiple hauls you can make 1mil/hr reliably (assuming no freight elevator gimmicks impede you)

[sturdy geyser]

oh ya, i keep meaning to ask, I heard there are new minerals in pyro... ive been mining a lot in planet rings outside of ruin station, but are the new ores only in the asteroid belts?

[tall karma]

But, mining exploit you found may be reproducible with other systems. Could be a ROC cheat or might allow duping janalite in a hand mining container. People will spend hours figuring out how to exploit to riches.

[sturdy geyser]

lol

[coarse ember]

seemingly so yeah, i have yet to see any of the newmineables planetside from anyone but do see a few in asteroids

[tall karma]

Yes there are mining options in pyro, but it's a little more dangerous. I'd check the guides on YouTube

There are new things to mine in pyro, but not for better returns except a super rare ore that you'll almost never see to make it worthy of the loss in income

But it may prove more fun which should be a factor

[gloomy scarab]

You can't tractor beam and abrade unfortunately

If you try to put it in a cargo elevator it doesn't let you and can't drop it from inventory

[tall karma]

I've done it on the vulture though

[gloomy scarab]

Strange it won't let me, can't put it in elevator or drop it

[tall karma]

Yeah I always did it in space

[gloomy scarab]

Did you just drop it put your inventory and it let's you in space?

[tall karma]

No, I salvaged it off other vultures that had upgraded

But, folks have definitely upgraded their fortune. How did you acquire the abrade?

[gloomy scarab]

Bought it from arc l1

But i can't drop it from my inventory or bring it up in cargo elevator and when I try and use the loadout it saves then reverts back to clinch when I come out of mobi glass

[tall karma]

Maybe try self destructing and claiming the fortune then install after fresh claim. Perhaps it got some damage and can't accept a new install

[gloomy scarab]

Yeah ill give it a go, thanks

[tall karma]

Also you're installing in the utility section, right?

[gloomy scarab]

Yeah literally just trying to swap it out where the default scraper is

[sturdy geyser]

well, my fun little bug didnt matter because my caterpillar exploded when I summoned it in hangar

and I lost all my cargo

~400SCU of cargo total... over 120scu of taranite

[novel harness]

How much money do each cargo rank mission give?

[sturdy geyser]

so if i have my 2 kids helping me, is reclaimer > mole for $/hr?

[tall karma]

Yes. Salvage is much easier and higher payment than mining. So easy it can be boring.

[peak snow]

The children yearn for the Reclaimer's cargo hold

[sturdy geyser]

im considering doing 2xVulture + 1 cargo ship until we can afford reclaimer haha

would 2x vulture make more than a mole?

we make money pretty fast in the mole

have 3x lasers mean you can break any rock you find

but i pay like 200k/day to rent it

[covert sun]

Have any of you encountered a bug where the Vulture suddenly doesn't fill up while salvaging?

I'm stuck on 10.7/13.0 SCU and even on brand new panels it's not filling up

The panel also seems to stay intact even when I keep salvaging it

Aaand I also can't get out of my seat... fun bug 🤔

[pastel flame]

Yeah, same experience, bummer. Low priority.

[pastel flame]

Also had this exact thing happen

[pastel flame]

Yes, they new mineables do exist planetside as well as in the asteroid belts.

Both Stileron and Riccite

[vestal ravine]

I heard we sell Hadanite at Ruin Station or Shepherds Rest.

[pastel flame]

Wrong info

Jackson's Swap or Ruin

Ruin pays shit for it compared to Jackson's, but often people will just run it into Stanton for the better price with a hangar safety

[delicate girder]

Is that Misc Fortun(ate) ship any good in comparison to the Vulture? What loaner does it have?

Doesn't look like the loaner matrix is updated for that yet.

[tall karma]

It's not better than the vulture though it is less tedious to unload. Slower collection rate.

[delicate girder]

Ah yeah, only one head.

Love the view of the prospector and that looks even better.

Ouch, it's the same price as the Vulture! Thought it might be a bit less. I'll pass for buying it.

[deep bison]

so did they fix the issue with outpost cargo elevators getting locked or am I still unable to fulfill my dream of being a door to door salesman in space?

[delicate girder]

I'm just getting back in after a break. I'm finding I'm quite rusty and wondering if I want to start with a trail be fire in Pyro or just start at Orison again.

I hear the game with put you back in you hanger now when you get bak into the game if you logout there? That's awesome if so!

So just starting with 25k to my name again. What's the best money start ATM?

[pastel flame]

Just tried to go to the greyed out "craft" section of the Fortune panel, I guess it doesn't print multitools like the vulture either?

[pastel flame]

A couple of quick hauling missions

[copper apex]

Does the fortune fit in the Polaris?

[spare cloud]

Yes

[mighty orchid]

just realized, Fortune can have more 12+2+13 SCU without offgrid

12 on grids, 2 printer, 13 in buffer

[hidden chasm]

Looking for someone with experience flying Hull series lately, if you have time on 4.0.1 even better.

How many loads of cargo do you 'lose' and is cargo autounloading to complete a contract still a thing or has it been hammered out?

Thinking about picking one up but fearful of the server being rude to hauled cargo.

[copper apex]

It can fit 47 SCU

18 internal, 12 external, 4 on cargo elevator, and 13 in buffer

It's 12 more than the vulture

And 35 in the vulture is a bitch

[mighty orchid]

I dont care much about internal stuff

but 2 extra stored in printer is good

[copper apex]

I honestly might melt my vulture just to try to fortune

I've been considering it pretty hard

[mighty orchid]

and is this one tested? or just copypaste fron Q&A?

[quiet atlas]

cool that Mining modules are now stackable again 🙂

[copper apex]

Anyone have any thoughts?

[copper apex]

I've seen plenty of photos of it

And asked

I'll probably honestly just take my Polaris and a fortune out today

[pastel flame]

Strongly suggest actually borrowing one first, because the 1 salvage head is fucking painful

I cannot imagine using a Fortune then unironically choosing to stack boxes inside it when you could have a vulture

It's one thing if you just despise the vulture ladder/printer wait, but if you're going through all that shit anyway just with half speed salvage, time to reflect

[mighty orchid]

thats why I dont even consider internal offgrid space

fuck it, thats not what I bought Fortune for

autoloading grid is awesome, unloading is really fast

[pastel flame]

Yes and doing the internal part is sickening as hell

Just to be slower

[pastel flame]

At this point after using it again today at Starlight, I just feel like the Fortune is a tease of what could have made the vulture far better

But instead of giving it to the vulture, they took the corpse of a prospector, jury rigged it, and put that tech in it as "balance" while making it twice as slow at actually salvaging

[mighty orchid]

well, I would riot if they add autoload for Vulture

[lavish ferry]

hi guys, im having a weird flikery effect with the green outline of the panel while in the vulture, its not my monitor or pc it is just the outline of the panel that is flickering, anyone know why?

[mighty orchid]

13 SCU buffer was already huge buff

[pastel flame]

I know this is crazy talk, but what if the Fortune and Vulture both got a nice ejection system AND two salvage heads, or the Fortune a S2

And we balanced them without making either one shitty to use

https://tenor.com/view/talos-talosian-star-trem-star-trek-big-head-gif-12496470

[mighty orchid]

I think as right now both are pretty balanced

[pastel flame]

Balance isn't a virtue on its own

[mighty orchid]

one offers more per haul internally, another offers ease of load and unload

[pastel flame]

That's what makes it hard to do well

[peak snow]

I've never had any thoughts, ever

[pastel flame]

Don't forget, one is also half as fast at salvaging, and also has less choice of multiple salvage heads, not that anyone's using cinch

[peak snow]

Imo the Vulture is still slightly better - the 2 heads make up for the smaller internal space

[mighty orchid]

I did not tested speed as I dont own Vulture, but people reported it is not twice slower

part about cinch I did not get tho

[pastel flame]

Well, I tested, and it is twice slower

The raw numbers are there, if they are slower with the vulture it's a skill issue

Testing's all been done, Foxy has great 2 part on it

I have both, have flown both for 4 loads each now

Not counting past vulture exp obviously

[mighty orchid]

has less choice of multiple salvage heads, not that anyone's using cinch
what do you mean here?

I dont get

[pastel flame]

On a vulture you have 4 total "slots" you can fill

On the Fortune you only have 2

[lavish ferry]

anyone know how to fix this flickering problem?

[mighty orchid]

its just game

[pastel flame]

Maybe delete shaders cache?

Otherwise yeah

4.0.1 has introduced a host of flickering shit

[lavish ferry]

how do you delete shaders cashe?

[pastel flame]

Engines turning on and off is my personal fav

!shaders

[jolly dagger]

The Shaders folder can be reached by pasting/typing the following into your file explorer or by pressing the Windows key + R::
%localappdata%\Star Citizen

[lavish ferry]

ty

you just delete the whole folder named shaders? @pastel flame

[pastel flame]

Yes, it will re-dl them

[lavish ferry]

ok will give a try

[pastel flame]

Just be warned it may do nothing

[lavish ferry]

its just hard to salvage with annoying flickering so its worth a try

[pastel flame]

Yeah, I sympathize.

[lavish ferry]

didnt work 😦

[tall karma]

WTB Reclaimer Drones that stack boxes on grid.

[modern agate]

Are trawlers useless now?

[terse niche]

what was the preferred spot to do panels? ive been doing the asteroid belt but lately been having a hard time finding any

[molten falcon]

alt f4 saved the day, oh wait

[terse niche]

what are these 3 symbols?

[mighty orchid]

Remaining RMC in a panel, mass(obviously) and something else, might be related to fracturing

[terse niche]

panel weighs the same as a wingtip? strange

[mighty orchid]

It's SC

We have golf carts that weight few tons

Don't be surprised by some stupid mass stats

Most likely set that way for easier tractor beam operation

[pastel flame]

Be advised - if you store teh Fortune with salvage on it's grid, when you call it back, no boxes will appear but the spaces remain "occupied" and buffers will not empty

I have tried storing and recalling a few times now

4th recall worked!

[honest grove]

Does the salvage arm on the Fortune have a gimbled mode like the Vulture?

[opal gulch]

Similar thoughts here.

I'd like to see the Fortune have 1x Size 2 head, and be better and get +25% CM, but only +10% RCM. And the Vulture gets in the inverse, +25% RCM and only +10% CM, and keep it's 2x Size 1 heads.

Everything else such as slight hull/shields/cargo differences are fine.

Expanding on that, it would be cool to see the Reclaimer/future Medium Salvage ships have similar differences when salvaging (such as the +/-19% on both RMC & CM), but have other advantages between them, such as a new medium Salvage ship can hold SIGNIFICANTLY less then the Reclaimer, but is easier to navigate/the munching can be done by the pilot, but the scraping is still done with two other operators. Crew size/Cargo Capacity trade off in the the bigger range.

Just thoughts.

[languid marten]

I hope they introduce this patch and I can make my avatar look as high as this

[coarse ember]

rmc left, mass and shields power on/off

[copper apex]

Well club me and burn me in hell

I melted my vulture to try the fortune

[urban olive]

I mean... arent they worth the same? can't you just get the vulture back later on if you don't like it?

[mild pumice]

you can squeeze both the Prospector and Fortune in the Polaris for group mining/salvage adventures!

[sonic fiber]

Surface mining still doesn't work

Lots of rocks you can't mine

[olive wagon]

Is the Prospector broken?
48 SCU mod resets to 32 if you claim the ship, plus it always says Full, even after refining.

[vestal ravine]

Posted by AquaticJustice

I was able to fit 48 in the Fortune.
6 in the bedroom area (3 stacks of 2)
5 in the depot control hallway
6 unsecured in the elevator room (2 rows of 3 across)
4 on the elevator grid
12 on the outside grids
13 in the buffer
2 printed but blocked from exiting the depot

[modern agate]

did they nerf pyro cargo prices

[peak snow]

the third icon looks like shields?

Could be for the sake of salvaging a ship, since iirc you cant salvage a shielded one

[timber flower]

that happened to me, went in to refill on some cruz lux and I left the fortune on the pad for me to offload. Turns out atc decided willy nilly that they would store the ship. Came back and thought where was it, maybe the asop could tell me where/what happened to it. Took it out and there was no boxes but the scu in the fillers were full yet they said obstruction.

ended up self destructing it and just reclaiming a new one

[unkempt cove]

The game sole 300k worth of cargo from me, Not a huge fan rn

stole*

[languid marten]

The fortune is smaller than the prospector?

[quiet atlas]

Dont scan in mining mode only in scan mode V if u scan in mining mode rocks bug out , only go into mining mode after the rocks highlight 😉

[modern agate]

same width, little shorter cos forks

[quiet atlas]

also its annoying u cant break rocks in a prospector with your shields on now soo even more chance to blow yourself up

[viral heath]

Hmm... Pyro or hurston for hadanite

[brittle snow]

😰

server error, volatile cargo, ore rock about to blow in my face

this can only end well

10 minutes later still error-ing 😄

[vestal ravine]

Did CIG nerf the amounts of CM per ship?

[peak snow]

CM isn't worth it

Never has been unless you're in a reclaimer

[mighty orchid]

Yeah, right

[merry cipher]

My prospector was duping its own cargo this morning every time I turned in I’d go back to my ship , find it said 0/0 so I disconnected a bag reattached and they were full of the ore I had just turned in

[paper apex]

I see people saying the vulture fits 39 scu. How are people doing that? I can usually get like 37 or 38 if the boxes aren't too anxious

[craggy tapir]

6 on the grid, then on the walkway

and what i like to do

wait for a box to be ejected

lift it up and wait for another box to be printed

[paper apex]

Yeah I use the walkway I just can't seem to fit 26 in that area. I get to 24 before the janky boxes block the fill station

I'm not really losing out on that much money I just like to optimize

[novel harness]

What is the go to trade route for c2?

Also how much do cargo contracts pay per rank?

[knotty dove]

i do Terra gateway to magnus gateway trade runs with cat

[brittle snow]

maaan mining feels like such a waste of time when you can do some other stuff and earn more than 2x amount in the same time

[molten falcon]

Hotfix fixed it, now the bags remain, 48 scus 🙂

[olive wagon]

Oh rly? Haven't played on the hotfix.
I'll give it a go.
Thank you.

[molten falcon]

my pleasure, I rented a Moll and tried yesterday didn't work, but today it does 🙂

[quiet atlas]

Ship miners u can now stack mining modules, use 2 riegers r even 2 surges if u have the balls lol

[raw shell]

do you know if the bags come up on the elevator now, if you buy them at the refinery?

[molten falcon]

I tried last week for the bags in the lift didn't work so better rent a mole, open the ports remove them from the mole and add them on the prospector

then this works

[fickle kraken]

is there any other hauling except for covalex?

[raw shell]

this tip is too late to save you some cash but if you line the bottom of the freight elevator with 1scu crates (or RMC) then add the bags it works. Just advised to do them one at a time.

[merry cipher]

Find a mole salvage contract shove the bags in the back of the vulture scrape , go to landing pad and pull out the prospector to swap

[olive wagon]

Or just rent the Mole and steal its bags, like I normally do after getting frustrated with every other workaround.

[craggy tapir]

through the rent bug
i now fully own a mole
so ez

[molten falcon]

what you mean?

if you rent it you own it?

[raw shell]

whaaaa?

I would love a mole for 200k

[craggy tapir]

i rented it twice