industrial-professions

[humble merlin]

There's a chart floating around somewhere

[limber star]

yeah i thought so but forsome reason my buddies amth was messing woth me

[pastel flame]

lil cargo break

[nimble urchin]

Damn where did you find that?

[remote rune]

did they fix mining in the last days ?

[fossil atlas]

is there any way to rotate panels on a reclaimer tractor beam?

[glass gate]

I was just about to try, what was wrong with it?

[remote rune]

cant mine any ores, dont get hud or even see the stats of the ores

was the prob

[glass gate]

Damn, hope it’s fine

[plain silo]

When roc mining in 3.24 do you have to transfer all the gems to a box or can you just sell it by selecting that inventory in a station selling area?

[weak tinsel]

is there any 4.0 minig sheets or was there not much change for stanton ?

[coarse ember]

No 4.0 mining sheets, Monster can't make one cause they moved all that data server side instead of keeping it client side in like .23 or .24 but tbh outside of the addition of some pyro stuff it pretty much hasn't changed

[weak tinsel]

thanks

[sonic fiber]

Found a lot of rocks on planets that don't work. And tons of animal returns instead of rocks

In pyro

Space mining seems ok

[mild pumice]

finally hit experience hauling rank only to find 80% of the missions are hidden LOL

Hope they fix that soon (I know it's still broken in the current PTU)

badly need some kind of filter system for these

[coarse ember]

a rank filter would be nice for missions but thats more a qol/nice to have thing

[mild pumice]

yeah and a location filter at minimum.

[mild pumice]

that was fun - wrist is dead 😄

I think I need to get a loader to help out

[sonic fiber]

Mining needs work. Can only deliver refined to ship, not station?

Then I have to unload from ship to store it

In station

And then I got kicked from hangar while moving boxes, for trespassing in my own hangar

And now I'm stuck on repositioning player...

[mild pumice]

yeah they need to update refining to the new cargo mechanics, another thing that got left behind with the tech changes.

I just bought a prospector, going to try some mining in Pyro. First time I called it the hangar ate it so had to claim before I've even flown it LOL

[sonic fiber]

Well the good news is once you deliver it to your ship and then unload it from your ship into the station you can sell it at the station

[coarse ember]

ye call a sacrifice ship with the same hangar size so it gives you a hangar then call your ship up from in the hangar and it wont eat it

[mild pumice]

yeah I thought that might be the case with Pyro stations, I guess staying alive docking is the challenge

I've not been shot down in my Vulture yet so there's hope!

[coarse ember]

same did come across someone elses bounty tho but they thankfully left me alone to scrape arrows and whatever was leftover

[mild pumice]

yeah I know the workarounds, normally just waiting 1min or so before you call the elevator works too

[sonic fiber]

I've been fine so far. You just don't hang around

But I also haven't risked anything major

So far I've just been doing test runs

[mild pumice]

I'll just be mining whatever I find, not too fussed about what I pick up as long as it's not absolute garbage lol

[sonic fiber]

And now the elevators broke so can't get back to refinery

If cig just finishes just one thing it should be elevators

[rose prawn]

i was mining hidanite on arberdee but i found out the harder way that it is too hot... what is the best heat protective suit for the job?

[mighty orchid]

Pembroke suit is designed for hot places

you can buy it at any refinery

[mild basalt]

Didn't they remove the Pembroke suit from stores?

[mighty orchid]

fr, lol

why

[mild basalt]

Because stupid decisions are in their nature

[mighty orchid]

well, then Morozov is next as I can see

[mild basalt]

Yeah, the Novikov and Pembroke are in the loot table, but not in stores anymore.

[rose prawn]

thnks

wait it is nnot sold nnow?

ah ffs ;-;

[rose prawn]

alright

[naive vine]

Hi does the mole still get mining mode in the pilot seat

not seeing the HUD

[native bluff]

What Ship you have ?

[mild pumice]

Starlancer Max, was pretty much at capacity!

@native bluff oh sorry that mission was in my Caterpillar

I did one before it in the Starlancer, was 250scu ish

I have the Cat as a loaner for my Ironchad

[native bluff]

Just wondering how far i get my Taurus, i have also ATLS, tbh.. that help a lot

[mild pumice]

Yeah I use the ATLS to move the boxes then the maxlift to place them

@native bluff made this time-lapse a while ago lol

[native bluff]

Awesome video 🙂 that box sounds.. 🙂 hard work, no easy way out 😛

[mild pumice]

Yeah you get the occasional stuck box lol. The Starlancer is a pain to unload if you fill it as the boxes get stuck

The Caterpillar has a bug now too where once you've placed a box you can't pick it back up from the outside, you need to push them out from the catwalk

[native bluff]

Yeah, just looking The Starlancer video and see whats kind of cargo area is... I dont have a lot Taurus Experience yet, but let see when i found limits on that..

[mild pumice]

Taurus should be perfect for the medium missions up to member rank.

Experience unlocks the medium/large, they need a Caterpillar/C2 and there's Hull C loads in the 1000s too.

[native bluff]

I just send pm to you 🙂

[naive vine]

Is the higher hauler missions actually worth the time?

i have a C2 but is the money worth the time it takes to load and unload?

[mild pumice]

Yes and no tbh, the bigger box sizes are quicker to move than all the 8s but they are bulky so depends on how efficient you are. They still don't really beat the rewards from the local small hauls tho.

One that does pay well is the 3000+ Hull C mission, if it works it's 700k for going from Terra to Magnus Gateway and if you don't hit issues should take <30 mins

[ornate ledge]

Is RMC one of the best cargos to haul in a c2?

[naive vine]

Also does anyone know if not being able to see the mining HUD in the MOLE pilot seat is a bug or feature?

[spare cloud]

Is anyone seated in the mining stations while you're in the pilot seat ?

[ornate halo]

Bug- well known and bitched about bug supposedly fixed in the upcoming patch

[peak snow]

I've heard the ATLS is busted on the preview, is this still true?

[ornate ledge]

I believe so

[peak snow]

:C
-# spongebob boowomp sfx

[ornate ledge]

4.0.1 ptu is where it's at

[peak snow]

i knoww

im having so much fun though

i was doing hauling around pyro (suicide) and theres drake mules everywhere

[ornate ledge]

Ptu the same but less buggy and you get 15 mil starting out

[peak snow]

i think i managed to fit like 6

[peak snow]

i know its good, but theres smth about the persistence for me

i love knowing that what i do will last yk?

[ornate ledge]

Yeah ik what you mean

The ptu is a good way to try out ships there to see if they're good or not without spending your PU money

[peak snow]

i spam melts lol

melted my MPUV, Cutter and ATLS for a C1 with a nice paint

[ornate ledge]

Melting that mpuv and atls was definitely the best choice

Cutter you probably should've kept as a second ship

[peak snow]

my current fleet is the Vulture, C1, Buccaneer, and Caterpillar as a loaner for the Ironclad

i don't really need a runabout rn

[silver nova]

Are there any hauling missions in Pyro that are station to station??

Feel like all of these require landing on a planet/moon surface

[ornate ledge]

Priority CFP missions

They will usually take you from the gateway to a station such as checkmate or starlight

[silver nova]

How do I get those?

What rep do I need?

[ornate ledge]

I've only gotten them in ptu for now but you'll get them without rep

[silver nova]

Maybe PTU only?

[ornate ledge]

They will probably get brought to live when 4.0.1 is out of the ptu

[silver nova]

So until now there aren't regular hauling missions from stations to stations from Red Wind?

[ornate ledge]

Idk i haven't done a red wind haul before

Don't do the missions in pyro tbh not worth the risk, just do them in stanton between stations and distribution centres, you can get 200k from a single haul doing them

[silver nova]

Wanted to give the PYRO ones a try

I heard they pay more

[ornate ledge]

Understandable, but no cant haul between stations in preview

[fickle dune]

Anyone having issues scanning rocks on moons? I can ping out and find them, but the scanner wont scan. Its been working for the last few days that Ive been mining, but today its just not working.

[silver nova]

I'm confused as fuck right now... Can I not have rep with CFP and do hauling missions in PYRO? Seems like all the hauling delivery locations are HEADHUNTERS and the turrets shoot at me..
And is there any benefit to going with CFP??

[scarlet thistle]

There are both headhunters and CFP outposts

[silver nova]

And there's no way of knowing which locations belong to who as a new hauler?

There's no info anywhere?

[scarlet thistle]

I am not sure about high rep hauling ones

[silver nova]

I am on the low rep ones

[scarlet thistle]

You can look on map who owns the place

Or in whose jurisdiction it is

[silver nova]

Awesome thank you man

So then I just need to pick my contracts carefully I guess...

[scarlet thistle]

Ye propably

Or you coud do them before geting hostile status from one of the 2

But I ques it is to late for that now xd

[silver nova]

I already am hostile with HH

Is there not a way to be neutral with both

[scarlet thistle]

I know you can switch the side but i dont think you can go back to neutral

But maybe someone knows how to do it

[leaden reef]

do the missions that let you switch factions and then let the one you're hostile to decay over time by NOT killing their members

[fickle dune]

does anyone know where the exit seat button is on a mole pilot seat/

[analog wraith]

I can’t wait till cig implements quantum economy lol. A dozen players spam selling trade items shouldn’t make it impossible to sell, just make the sell price less than if the market wasn’t flooded lol. Really annoying to be told by uex “yeah, that’s a cool non-flooded route” and then be told “just kidding” lol

[coarse cape]

no wait times
"ok cool thatll be a quick trade route"
2 scu in stock instead of x amount it should have
"what"

also i have yet to have any luck hull c trading or maybe its just checkmate not wanting to accept my call request to cargo deck

[analog wraith]

Carrack pulling boxes on and off is annoying at 16scu lol. They barely fit the opening so are hard to stack

[coarse cape]

Can you not do 8 scu?

[analog wraith]

I could do smaller but I didn’t know till I bought them, and I don’t have enough auec to waste it. I was lucky that someone was nice when I asked for a couple thousand for a max lift lol

[coarse cape]

ah

ive geven up on cargo and trying mining now

[analog wraith]

Any good spots in pyro to try? Or is Aaron’s halo/yela belt still the best?

[coarse cape]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i just did some halo mining to get used to the new ui since i havent gone mining since 3.12 i believe

i wanna try pyro for the new ores but idk where to go tbh

[analog wraith]

I don’t either, and don’t know what a stock mole is good for yet lol

[coarse cape]

stock mole is garbo

i got all my mining turrets setup just need to do comps at some point

[analog wraith]

Hey!!!! I beat the person who’s been packing the terminal. Only 4 more to sell lol

[analog wraith]

What’s the new meta for the mole?

[coarse cape]

ig its helix and two Hofstede

its not bad tbh

[analog wraith]

If doing it solo, what’s the best of them lol

[coarse cape]

im running one helix and two hofstede lasers

[analog wraith]

I know the whole lecture of dumb to be solo but…

[coarse cape]

use the helix for the big rocks and then go two hofstede for the small stuff

[analog wraith]

Ah ok

[coarse cape]

last time i did mining "meta" was lancets

but that was years ago when refinerys came out

[analog wraith]

Ah lol 😂

[coarse cape]

i still miss watching prospectors rush to PO aftering mining quant to sell only to blowup on pad

[analog wraith]

It’s been a while since the first time I mined. Back then you could easily quant mine since you wouldn’t exclusively find rocks too big for one ship

[coarse cape]

yeah

[analog wraith]

I was actually really really good at it lol

[coarse cape]

i was as well

[analog wraith]

But not to po

[coarse cape]

but i liked to stand infront of the airlock panels to stop them from being used

[analog wraith]

Lol 😂 Part of the reason the arc-l1 etc were better

[coarse cape]

that or levski was ok to sell at

[analog wraith]

Never went to levski lol.

[coarse cape]

really?

it was ok not much there

[analog wraith]

My computer at the time wasn’t really good enough for a variety of reasons so I didn’t really stay in the game very long when I’d get in. I missed levski entirely and was focused on college at the time

[coarse cape]

we'll see levksi once nyx happens

will probably be way better as well

levski was in a really nice spot to get to aarons halo as well

[analog wraith]

Give me my 200k auec cig, I want to sell you my stims lol. 😛 stop taking so long to refresh

I’m above 1m now, but it’s driving me crazy that now it’s 2x16scu at a time, like really? Lol.

I don’t know that I want to stay up another 15 minutes for the next 100k credits lol

[cosmic rose]

Is there a way to tell what sizes a station accepts BEFORE I trade?

I got size 2 because I was sure they would take that size.

but I arrive and offoad, and it tells me they don't accept that size.

[vale vortex]

Check the "Local Market Value" tab

I think CRU-L4 accepts all the sizes, it may be because there is no demand now.

[scarlet thistle]

Prospector not enought .c

[naive vine]

Whats the highest mass you can mine as a solo MOLE miner?

[naive vine]

With a helix 2 and 2 C3's and a stampeed i can hardly mine anything

[rose prawn]

i got a question
what is better mining? ores or crystals
cuz i spent like an hour on aberdeen for 546 hadanite crystals and it was around 220k only

[spare cloud]

That's decent already, and quite good for a first time

[mighty orchid]

ore mining gives more, but requirements are higher
you need to refine(which cost some money), you need to wait for ore to be refined and then you need cargo ship for ore transfer

[rose prawn]

if anyone needs an extra pair of hand to mine on a mole i would be up for it tho

[rose prawn]

thnka

[mighty orchid]

you could try #looking-for-session

[cerulean dagger]

What's best laser setup for a prospector for a mostly solo player? Right now I'm mining stuff around wide forest station. People keep telling me to go to Aaron's halo or something but I can't find that place lol

And is there a way to upgrade prospector storage sizes?

[coarse ember]

It's a more hidden place
Between Hurston and arc corp drop out 13.5Gm from arccorps or 9.5gm from Hurston if you're coming from arccorp and you'll drop out in Aaron's halo just not the densest part of it iirc

[coarse ember]

Gotta either find some mole bags or ask someone for theirs but ye you can upgrade the prospector storage space

Don't buy em and try to call them up on elevator, they bug out this the suggestion of finding one with bags still attached or just asking around

[cerulean dagger]

If someone gives me their mole bags. Do they come back for the other player after they store/call their ship back? I have a buddy who has a mole and if the bags comeback that might be viable lol

[coarse ember]

it'll only.give the bags back if they repair/claim the ship afaik

[cerulean dagger]

Ahh okay but they do come back. Interesting. And the bags they give me they stay with me unless I have have to claim the ship for some reason too?

[coarse ember]

As far as I know yep

[cerulean dagger]

Do I apply them the same way I did the helix laser? Helix laser was in my freight elevator and I went to mobiglass > vehicle > select and apply?

[coarse ember]

Nah it's a bit more involved, you have to swap em manually

Iirc shoot rings off the prospector ore bag holders yank the bags down and out them do the opposite putting on the mole bags and repair at the end so the ore bag holders hold the bags tight

[cerulean dagger]

Okay so shoot the bags off by shooting rings and then what, tractor beam the mole bag in place where the old bags use to be?

[coarse ember]

Yep, might have to pull the old bags off first if they don't fall out from shooting the rings

[cerulean dagger]

Can you confirm if this still works in 4.0? Scoured Google and I see people saying their prospector returns bagless after storing and such

Example https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1hobmyh/mole_bags_no_longer_usable_on_prospector_in_40/

[coarse ember]

dont have a prospector or mole to try it with, only place i got a mining ship is 3.24.3 where nothing is moving over

[delicate phoenix]

Anyone know if you can buy the readygrip tractor beam in game? I want to put one back on my Vulture but I've misplaced the original

[coarse ember]

doesnt seem so, you might be able to find it opening your mobi > assets and then looking through each spots inventory til you find the one that has the module

[delicate phoenix]

Yeah I thought of that too but the asset thing is bugged and I can't get past the first page of locations lol. Thanks though!

[deep bison]

are there things that are kinda worthless to trade in 4.0?

[still sleet]

My ReadyGrip tractor beam has disappeared as well. Along with other ship components that should be in my inventory.

[ashen oyster]

I currently have Mole Bags on my prospector and they are there after claiming my ship.

My steps it installation:
1 . Have someone who is willing to give you MOLE bags
2. Call up my prospector in my hangar, Enter ship and power it up and R-ALT + K to unlock the stations.
3. Exit ship and remove the 4 prospector bags and place them to the side,.
4. Shoot off the rings that are around where the bags were, it took me 1.5 mags with a rifle for each of the rings ( there are 2 rings)
5. Go meet up with the Mole outside of armistice zone, park close to each other so the transfer will be quick.
6. Have Mole friend unlock their ports by R-ALT + K
7. use tractor beam to remove 4 of the Mole bags and place them on the prospector.
8. Land in my hangar and store the prospector.
9. Open up vehicle loadout manager in the mobiglass
10. remove a cooler and click on "save changes and equip" button.
11. install same cooler you removed and click on "save changes and equip" button again.

Now your prospector should respawn with mole bags when ever you need to claim your ship.

With the current state of repair if you have damaged mole bags on your ship and you repair they will get replaced with prospector bags, Not a problem just don't make any changes to your vehicle loadout and or else it will have your ship file updated back to prospector bags. If you find your self in that situation where you repaired and now have prospectors bags, you can take it out and self destruct it, fly it into the ground or leave it in your hangar and fly to a different station with a different ship and submit a claim at the new station to get a new one.

[spare cloud]

You can do that alone with a MOLE from salvage contracts.
Or using a rented MOLE but you'll have to soft kill it iirc, since load out is locked

[mighty orchid]

shooting rings is something new I guess

it used to snap no issues

[ashen oyster]

You will have to tow the salvage contract mole out of the armistice zone first,

[mighty orchid]

you can go to salvage mole in your prospector

[ashen oyster]

ya its a newer thing they added, but we find workarounds lol

[spare cloud]

But can't use tractor beam in AZ. They're right you'll need to push it out. Can bump it gently

[mighty orchid]

ah, well

[ashen oyster]

yes you can, but legal salvage missions are all in side armistice zones so you need to get the ship outside of the zone before you can remove parts with yuor tractor bean.

[mighty orchid]

thats something new too, AZ at salvage contract location

[ashen oyster]

but we find work arounds lol

[mild pumice]

going on a little mining trip to Pyro, can you take spare bags with you and swap them when full?

[spare cloud]

Yesn't.
The way refinery works now, you can only sell ores or make refinery orders from a mining ship.

[cerulean dagger]

holy shit. what ship holds a prospector? 😮

[mild pumice]

Polaris

[spare cloud]

Bags are full, you swap them, you fill an other set of bags, now to the refinery.
You make the order, now equipped bags are empty, and you swap them for the full ones, make order again.

But you can't do it from the bags stored in the Polaris directly or by sending them down the freight elevator

[mild pumice]

so kinda doable. cool, do I need to dupe bags or can you buy them?

[spare cloud]

You can buy them, but they're bugged with freight elevators, so it can be hard to get any that way

Easier and cheaper to dupe

[cerulean dagger]

i assume the buy option your referring to are these?

[mild pumice]

appreciate the help 🙂

[mild pumice]

yeah that's them, nice, that the cargo deck?

[cerulean dagger]

yeah i think so

[naive vine]

where is best to sell refinened materials, is it better to sell all one place or goto eacg place where u get most money?

[spare cloud]

Easier to sell all at once, especially with low volumes.

[naive vine]

So it that at the TDD's?

[spare cloud]

But if you stacked a full C2 worth or refined ores, going to multiple places to maximize sales can be a good idea

[cerulean dagger]

ive been doing area 18. even though i hate the landing pads there with teh landing queues giving me like 2 seconds to land once it pops up :X

[spare cloud]

It won't make a huge difference anyway

Check prices and where to sell on !tradetools

[jolly dagger]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[cerulean dagger]

um. is that buyable ingame? lmao. looked at rsi $975.00 😮

[mild pumice]

nope not buyable in game yet. was new in game at IAE.

[cerulean dagger]

damn, of course not :X

[mild pumice]

I paid a lot less for mine with CCU game, still almost 400 bucks tho

[cerulean dagger]

any other ships capable of carrying the prospector? these small 32 SCU loads are fine just i fill up so damn quick lol

i could work towards a Mole i guess, but that doesn't look very solo friendly

right now my current goal is to save up 19* mill to get The C2 Hercules atleast to make my refinery runs to TDD larger :X but. that's a hell of a long way off lol

[mild pumice]

Not yet the Polaris is the only one big enough. Later there will be refining ships and base building so you'll be able to stash ore, etc or refine yourself.

[cerulean dagger]

oooo

that sounds nice 😮

so far, the mining game loop is kinda my favorite. hauling was okay to start, but moving boxes 1 by 1 got a lil too tedious. even though i'm doing the same thing with ore boxes to sell, just not as often lol

[mild pumice]

There's a small refinery ship planned by misc called the expanse (about the same price as the prospector, in concept) and the RSI Galaxy will have a refinery module.

[cerulean dagger]

i know i've heard for 2025 they are focusing on stability. but the "in concept/planned" ships. is there a typical release window for new ships and such?

[mild pumice]

nah best to check for updates on inside star citizen and watch events like fleet week, IAE and citizen con

some ships we have waited over 10 years already

[cerulean dagger]

ouch okay got it 😄 i did successfully complete arena commander, so wondering if the catapillar is worth it for these ore runs. might save for when that comes up available again lol.

[mild pumice]

They do update the roadmap so you get an idea of what's in development and occasionally give a release window (like they said Polaris was going to be last IAE)

[cerulean dagger]

is there ever a scenario where its better to sell the raw ore vs refining. these refining windows are long as heck lol

[mild pumice]

if you just have low value stuff it's generally not worth paying to refine it but the higher value stuff for sure

but tbh I'm a mining novice - I bnot really done much since the Lyria days of getting the quant rocks

[cerulean dagger]

maybe thats my issue. I need to be pickier about what i mine... because i keep coming across "impossible" rocks - i end up just mining what i can and refining it all lol

i mean, i made about 300k last night, so not mad. but probably better if i was picky about what i mined

[mild pumice]

found my first group of rocks!

[naive vine]

Am i able to get auto unload at TDD's?

[mild pumice]

well that's great my landing gear wont deploy LOL

[cerulean dagger]

this is something i havent tried yet. planetside mining. maybe i should try that. i just dont like the idea of the long trips from planet to refinery etc with low cargo availability :X

[mild pumice]

I noticed the large clusters when I was exploring, that's why I came back 🙂

[cerulean dagger]

i havent got that to work yet. i tried and it jsut says processing request forever and never does anything. so i manual load refined ore into the freight elevator.

[mild pumice]

Left the ship floating, hopefully it's OK lol

[cerulean dagger]

I tried Roc mining with the car/truck thing. wasn't bad. the thing that got on my nerves was the janky gathering of the Rock once you fracture a rock. i definitely like the prospector more.

[mild pumice]

they're dead rocks by the looks of it - that's a shame

[cerulean dagger]

awwww

[north elm]

best location in stanton to salvage with a vulture?

[mild pumice]

disappointing, 3 clusters of rocks none are mineable

[mild pumice]

tbh everywhere I go there's loads of panels

[cerulean dagger]

even though im mining i have panels popping up when im scanning in asteroid fields. so outside of any refinery maybe? idk. im no expert, been playin for just over a week but its a start lol

[median smelt]

Just bought a Vulture, planning to hit some panels. Question is, to dual Abrade or not to Abrade at all?

[mild pumice]

yeah dual Abrades 100%

[median smelt]

I was told that for panels that wastes material?

[mild pumice]

yeah a little but it's soo much faster and panels are abundant

[median smelt]

Really? I couldn't find that many in Pyro

[mild pumice]

I found loads around terminus ring, just look for the 8k/10k/20k etc signals

I'm rich lol

Just wanted to make sure that the Prospector stored within the Polaris was accessible,. it was. All good 🙂

[median smelt]

Wait, what?!

Inside and you can move cargo?

[naive vine]

Anyone know why the unload function doesnt work i get "cargo removal failed"

[mild pumice]

Yes you're able to access the refinery facilities when both the Polaris and Prospector is stored (within the Polaris)

[ornate halo]

But can you store more than one? Otherwise, I'll still just use my single prospector.

[mild pumice]

I've seen two crammed in before

[boreal current]

neat so you could pick people up in their prospectors if you own a polaris? cool

[mild pumice]

Tbh it was just to test the theory, I'm going to get extra bags and try swapping them out when full

[ornate halo]

First experiment getting empty bags onto a ship not a prospector/mole. last I tried it (3.24.X), you couldnt get them through a door- there was an invisible force field preventing them from entering.

[mild pumice]

My plan is to take them off in the Polaris bay, dump prospector, claim

So they should already be safely in the Polaris hangar for me. I could also just equip the new ones if I buy them in the VLM

[boreal current]

CAN YOU PLEASE MAKE THE MISSION TAB STAY ON THE PAGE IT'S ON WHEN YOU CLICK ACCEPT, THIS IS BY FAR THE MOST FRUSTRATING THING THAT IVE NOTICED IN THIS GAME HAVING TO CLICK BACK OVER TO ACCEPT MORE MISSIONS EVERY TIME YOU SELECT ONE

[mild pumice]

Who are you asking? This isn't an official CIG discord. Better give that feedback on spectrum

[boreal current]

well obviously not you

[mild pumice]

The CIG staff that use this discord mostly do so as a backer themselves so it's not really an appropriate place to give this kind of feedback

[boreal current]

well, i left the feedback here.

[cerulean dagger]

annnnywaaaay @mild pumice did you buy any of the mole crates from the cargo shop? did they work?

[mild pumice]

No I didn't yet I went straight to Pyro to do some mining!

[velvet totem]

What is CIG's reasoning behind making starter ships for combat/hauling relatively cheap ($45-60) but make the starter ships for mining and salvaging closer to $200?? Why the bias against industrial professions? xD

[pastel venture]

Where in pyro can you sell weevil eggs? I have 170 scu just sitting around in gaslight cause it doesn't accept my crates, ranging from 1scu to 32scu crates

[velvet totem]

No location from what i've heard. you must go to Stanton

[mild pumice]

According to SC trade tools, Ruin Station. I'd take a few to check just in case you get shot down lol

[limpid sluice]

https://uexcorp.space/commodities/info/name/gasping-weevil-eggs/tab/locations_buying/

[pastel venture]

I'll try ruin then cause apparently you crash when going to stanton, ty

[livid siren]

what is worth trading now?

[naive vine]

Quick question while mining i keep getting less than what the scan tells me (SCU wise) if you go into the overcharge bar does it delete some of the ores?

Also are the gadgets broken rn?

[humble merlin]

I believe it's based off of efficiency of the laser you're using

[peak snow]

Where are the good salvage spots in Pyro?

presumably panels

[amber delta]

Its sc-trade.tools accurate at commodities prices? Or uexcorp its better for doing trade routes?

[spare cloud]

Both sites work together and share information, gotta use both and uh, trust the process

[ornate ledge]

Where's the best place to mine quantanium

[coarse ember]

i think lyria? one of arccorps moons

[ornate ledge]

I thought planetary/moon mining was broken

[coarse ember]

i havent checked this patch since i havent made enough for a ship so far only mining i've done was gem mining

[untold crest]

What's the best HDMS location for cargo? I have a C2

[ornate ledge]

Check UEXcorp for commodity prices

Make sure you just buy a single small crate of smth cheap first to check that the freight elevator works before buying the hwole haul

[pallid talon]

You can give them to me

[fickle dune]

so Im out scraping pannels and one of my scrapers on my Vulture wont turn on. Anyone got any ideas?

NM. Alt S seems to have fixed it. THought I tried that

[primal shell]

Probably because you can make significantly more money significantly faster with any of the “starter” mining and salvaging ships than you can the starter ships

You can make a decent amount of money doing bunker missions with a titan, but you can make a LOT more with a vulture in the same time frame

The vulture and prospector are also THE solo salvage and mining ship, compared to starters which are barely even passable for their respective game loops

[vale vortex]

Right now, I think you can make more money doing bunkers/bounty hunting than using the Vulture to be honest.

[silver nova]

Question: Does the 1-8 SCU column means these stations DON'T buy 32 SCU containers?

[ocean compass]

i think it means it sells in 8scus

those are prob outposts

amirite?

some outposts sells in 1 to 8scu containers

[mild pumice]

is there any way to retrieve ore pods from the freight elevator? I just wasted 40k on 4 and it ate them all lol

[spare cloud]

[mild pumice]

I wanted to be honest and not dupe them but alas the game forces our hand 😄

[spare cloud]

A good few duping in this game aren't abuses IMO, they're QoL.
There's so much painful things to deal with in this game already

[mild pumice]

so if you leave loose ore pods in the Polaris and store it they get eaten lol

[spare cloud]

Do they ? I wouldn't have expected that

[mild pumice]

yep I had 4 in my polaris hangar, I stored the polaris to get the propector out and they're gone

[spare cloud]

[mild pumice]

I'll see if they're stored at the station

Nope they're gone, along with the mining head I pulled off, I wonder if this is some dupe fix?

[spare cloud]

I think more of an issue with mining comps themselves

[mild pumice]

yeah most likley, I guess we need to wait for another mining refactor before this kind of gameplay can be useful

once we get the refining ships I guess

[ashen oyster]

One way i saw was someone bought enough 2scu containers to fill up the first 2 levels of the freight elevator and then brought 1 pod up at a time with the full load of 2scu containers. I would in all honesty due to the elevator issue just take them off a friends mole and have them claim it, until they fix the issue so much money has been wasted on people trying to buy them correctly it balances out lol

[spice tundra]

In order to use my Argo do I bring it up first, then put it on my ship?

[austere canyon]

yo. is trading worith it rn

i have a c1 as a package

and around 230 k to start out with

[spare cloud]

ATLS ? Yeah

[spice tundra]

Alrighty

Do I need to relog? I am looking in my ASOP terminal and I do not see the ATLS I just got

nvm. Apparently, I had to be in the hangar itself for it to appear

[coarse ember]

Yeah there's some small "got ya" things like that, namely with ship hangar sizes (only shows supported ships for that size or below unless you get a larger hangar as intended) and ground vehicles like roc or gravlevs will only show up in your hangar terminal only and not public asop

I think ground garages are a exception, if there's a public ground vehicle terminal they'll show there too

[spice tundra]

I love your name btw. Only cause I actually like the CostCO hotdogs

[coarse ember]

Costco hotdogs slap even though I've only had them about 3-4 times, their fries are pretty good too

[spice tundra]

Tried loading my ATLS on my Taurus elevator instead of the cargo platform. Yea, that almost ended badly

[glass glade]

They have fries?

[mild pumice]

Yeah ATLS has a mind of its own in 4.x be careful with it, best to enter exit in your ship or outside of the elevator platform space

[coarse ember]

Not sure about everywhere but here they do

[mild pumice]

on the elevator platform it can decide to chew you up and spit you out for fun lol

[glass glade]

What part of the world are you in?

[coarse ember]

Canada, specifically the land of potash and grain Saskatchewan

[glass glade]

Ohhh

[austere canyon]

when buying commodoties from stations. do i have to run into the galleria every time or is there a faster way?

[coarse ember]

gotta run there everytime

[leaden monolith]

Depends. Are you manual loading and planning on doing several runs from that station? You can buy several runs worth of cargo with station inventory as the destination. Then you just have to land in the hangar and call up the cargo on your freight elevator.

Well the several runs worth of cargo depends on your ships' cargo size, your available funds and whether or not the station has that much to sell to you.

[mild pumice]

neo - there is no spoon....

[leaden monolith]

did you say abracadabra the first time?

[mild pumice]

server died shortly after lol.

[native bluff]

Question, can i store ATLS on my ship? So confused to get ATLS first my hangar and after that Ship itself.. there is no way to get ATLS on, if ship is already my hangar?

[spare cloud]

Nope

Gotta take the ALTS first to load it in your ship

One day we may be able to spawn small vehicles on the freight elevator

[mighty orchid]

Yeah, CIG talked about that stuff

[mild pumice]

I think we'll end up waiting for the garage module now, I don't see them adding vehicle retrieval to the freight elevators now

Every hangar should have an ATLS access point tbh, that would be nice and save you messing around

[peak snow]

I want this. I want to plaster my hauler in adverts for commission

it would be neat to see adverts for in-game brands or orgs

[runic aurora]

any idea if the expanse is gonna have internal storage to haul the refined mats?

[mild pumice]

It will use a sack system, you can read more about it in the Q&A

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/engineering/18635-Q-A-MISC-Expanse

Of course subject to design changes, maybe it'll have some kind of buffer tbc.

[spare cloud]

I expect the Expanse to eat bags (or what's inside) and spit out cargo containers

I don't feel like eating bags and spitting out bags but with refined ores will work

[sonic fiber]

My reclaimer got wiped, but did they fix the front elevator yet?

[north oyster]

I think your assessment is accurate. I see it emptying and returning the ore bags in short order. I have an Expanse but since I also have the Arrastra too, I'm thinking the Expanse might be a duplicate now. I'll probably wait until one or the other shows up in game.

[spare cloud]

It seems they plan on releasing the Expanse first

[north oyster]

I can see that. I'm still a little salty with the Galaxy fiasco, so the RSI train coming to a slow down was expected

[mild pumice]

My refinery plans are for the galaxy, I have the full set.

[spare cloud]

Arrastra

[mighty orchid]

ship refinery overrated

[restive swift]

quick question, Is there a way to equip all 3 mining modules on the prospector or is it bugged - the lazer shows only 1 space

[mighty orchid]

amount of module slots depends on laser you have

for s1 it is 2 max with some mining heads

s2 can have all 3 modules

https://www.spviewer.eu/items?item=WeaponMining

[restive swift]

Many thanks sir, it has changed from old guides then

[mighty orchid]

well, yeah
really old guides

it was changed more than a year ago IIRC

[restive swift]

Is there a good current guide for mining?

[silver nova]

Can someone help me where do I go to be able to load my refined mining materials onto my ship??

[sonic fiber]

The refinery

It will deliver to your ship

[brisk gorge]

Contract: Advertise in X system/planet/sector for X minutes.

Payment: 30,000 auec

[peak snow]

Y E S !

wouldn't be big payouts, but it would be nearly passive

[cedar marsh]

I purchased a Prospector with the aUEC i made salvaging. I also upgraded the laser to a Helix I and grabbed a couple upgrade modules.

Any tips on finding Quantanium? I have tried searching the Aaron Halo, and found a single asteroid with it out of like 20 clusters. Is it supposed to be that rare, or can i find it more reliably another way

[limpid sluice]

If you check the channel pins, there should be one for ore percentages for locations around Stanton. Not sure if its still up to date though

[cedar marsh]

Its a good place to begin. Gracias

[peak snow]

Note: Pyro's scrapyards are just as broken as Stanton's, if not worse

At least Seer's Canyon is

[pastel flame]

Certain areas are better than others. My suggestion is to base yourself out of Ruin station in orbit around Terminus, and mine the belt there.

You'll find some great rocks, including quant and taranite, which are the best two to mine right now.

Occasionally you'll find riccite or stileron but the bulk of what I make credits on are Taranite/Quant

[cosmic rose]

So is there a way to make the nomad tractor easier to use? The turret just swings side-to-side too fast so it is really hard to control. Maybe there is a setting somewhere to make it more manageable, but I can't find it.

[humble merlin]

There's a button to switch control modes

I think it's G?

It will change from the VJoy to relative and give you more control

[cosmic rose]

G? Ok, I'm writing that down. Thank you.

[humble merlin]

If it's not G just dig through your keybinds

Should be in one of the "turret" dropdowns

[cosmic rose]

Ok, thank you. Now at least I know that I"m looking for control modes.

[brisk loom]

any idea best ore to mine with new prospector to get miney to get better lasrers and moduales and things

[nimble urchin]

How do you use the cutter attachment on the multi tool?

[nimble urchin]

Just scrapped A hull a walked away with 32 SCU of processed food ( 1x 16 box and 1x 8 box), 8 SCU of iron (1x 8 box), 1 SCU of gold, 1 SCU of scrap, 4 SCU of CM (4x 1 box), 3 SCU of RMC (3x 1 box) and 1 117 bulldog

41 total SCU

[livid briar]

Any idea why a mining head module won't apply? I have nearly all of them on, replacing a Focus with a Focus III and when I click apply it says equiped but when I leave the screen and come back it defaults back to original Focus

I have a slot on the Helix II and I can remove Focus Module .. save.. and it has an empty spot... I can reapply the focus on the empty slot and it will work... but if I replace it with a Focus III or add it to the empty slot, it doesn't apply

[nimble urchin]

I have had the same issue my fix was just brute force it till it accepted it

Speaking of bugs don’t you love paying 20k to scrap an ares only for it to despawn

Before you finish

[peak snow]

panels, or random ships in Pyro's asteroids

[nimble urchin]

Salvage mission outside CUR L5

Like this

I did get 5 RMC before it respawned so not too mad but still annoyed

[peak snow]

delicious

got another 13 right before this too

[nimble urchin]

Where is that at?

[peak snow]

Pyro's a fruit tree, and boy is it all ripe for the taking

Asteroid clusters in Pyro can contain either panels or random ships floating about

provided you don't get ganked by a player or NPC, it's extremely lucrative

similarly, one of the best sell spots for RMC is in Pyro, check uexcorp.space for accurate data

[nimble urchin]

Yeah I don’t want to deal with all that so I stay out of pyro but I should eventually go there

I meant tho where you selling it

I usually sell to some farm on celin

[peak snow]

Terra Mills is good

I've been selling at Seer's Canyon on Vatra, one of Pyro V's moons

[peak snow]

the ability to run away is a powerful one

there's no shame in just entering NAV mode and booking it

[nimble urchin]

Oh I know lol but I just haven’t gotten around to going to pyro cuz dealing with the pirates and stuff doesn’t interest me at all

[leaden reef]

its not that bad

[peak snow]

yeah, i do absolutely ZERO combat

and i've only been killed once

[leaden reef]

headhunter settlement O_O

[peak snow]

just don't piss em off

[leaden reef]

im a high ranked cfp they are very hostile to me

human food bars

[peak snow]

ahh

citizens for prosperity i assume?

[leaden reef]

yes

[peak snow]

rough

Rod's Fuel will still give you 10k per SCU tho

[nimble urchin]

Is human food bars, food bars made of human or meant for human consumption

[leaden reef]

endgame, dudley and daughters, rod's fuel 'n supplies yeah lots of options

i tried to land there with a reclaimer once - no xl hangars

[jovial matrix]

its probably the latter, but I think the former is funnier

[peak snow]

rip

vulture >>>>

[nimble urchin]

I mean it is pyro I would not put cannibalism past them tbh. Food is scarce

Damn looking at all the best places to sell my salvaged cargo and it wants me to run around Stanton

[ocean compass]

i look at that 11k price and shake my head

i come a time of plenty when RMC was worth so so much more

[jovial matrix]

indeed

[nimble urchin]

I’m surprised that grim hex won’t pay pyro RMC prices

But some random farm will

Unless that farm is connected grim hex

[humble merlin]

I heard there's a way to get friendly with both

By avoiding doing missions that have you kill the other

Haven't tested though

[nimble urchin]

So you just team up to bully Xenothreat then?

[humble merlin]

Probably lol

[leaden reef]

yeah but i like doing high ranked cfp missions

[peak snow]

it used to be like 23k...

still, 10-11k is respectable profits as a solo

very chill gameplay

[inner heron]

Anyone able to help me with hauling missions? I have the rank of rookie and am currently ranking junior. But I can only see trainee missions, and cannot accept rookie missions from other players.

[humble merlin]

Might be able to get both to max rank, then juggle missions so neither goes down

I'm definitely gonna try this

It'll take a while I'm guessing

[peak snow]

fellas are becoming the billionaires to manipulate both parties in the 2 party system

never thought id see politics in SC

[nimble urchin]

And down goes the server with my vulture half full and already accepted another contract. Into the lost column 40K goes

[leaden reef]

It could be stored somewhere

[nimble urchin]

Nope marked unknown

[nova stratus]

Sali man

do you remember where you were just about?

[native bluff]

What is C2 Hercules in game price atm?

[mighty orchid]

https://finder.cstone.space/ShipShops1/7533ff77-836c-4bd2-9171-487d9c63863c

[native bluff]

Awesome, thanks!

[craggy tapir]

cstone my beloved

[austere canyon]

what ship should i grind for. since i have a c1 now. im looking for something that can do light combat with a main focus on cargo hauling/ trading

[spare cloud]

Uhhhh, C1 ?

[austere canyon]

im tryna find the next step. like a seuz mk2, taurus, corsair

just if there are any that are better than others

[spare cloud]

Taurus. Not very "light combat" tho, it's the ship with the highest pilot DPS and most popular PvE pick

With good cargo and everything you need

[crude thunder]

Definitely Taurus for cargo space and solo dps. Flew with a friend in his Zeus CL, cargo space is good but tricky. But if you have someone in the gun turret it will shred another ship paired with the pilot's guns.

[novel harness]

how much can i make with 1 trade run with a C2 vs cat?

also what is the best route to run

[austere canyon]

Where can the zeus be bought

and how much does it cost

cant find it on UIF

[novel harness]

u cant buy it ingame

[austere canyon]

any idea when youll be able to?

[novel harness]

usually a few patches after release

[coarse ember]

usually 6-12 months after release onto pledge for them to put it in-game iirc

There are oddballs tho like the atls that I think a week or two later got added in the next patch

[spare cloud]

6-12 ?

Ships rarely stay pledge only more than 3-4 months

[austere canyon]

i really like it, but i dont want to spend money on it

[tall vigil]

Does the hull c work in 4.0?

[coarse ember]

Yeah but it gives those who bought the ship a grace period before they start fucking with it and then let everyone else deal with it too

[austere canyon]

how much aUEC do yall think it gon cost?

[spare cloud]

Zeus ? 3-4 mils

[austere canyon]

thats a good price

for 128 scu of cargo

[spare cloud]

More expensive than C1 but not so much

[austere canyon]

c1 also has half the cargo space

[spare cloud]

Up to 5.5 mils I'd say

[spare cloud]

And price isn't based just on cargo

That's now how prices are made

[austere canyon]

i know. but its a good price for me, since i love cargo hauling

[novel harness]

how much can i make with 1 trade run with a C2 vs cat?
also what is the best route to run

[austere canyon]

whats initial investment?

[novel harness]

no limit

pure max profit

[austere canyon]

326k

1.5 mill investment

326k profit

cat

[coarse ember]

Assuming the elevators are working 3 mil into gold for about 540k profit in a full c2, either way just make sure the elevators are working before feeding any money in

[novel harness]

arent illegal ones better?

[coarse ember]

Illegal are better but you can't buy them like you used to, get em from bounty contracts

[austere canyon]

btw. what is the most profitable loop i can do with my c1

i see these 5mil/hour thumbnails on yt. but they seem risky

[novel harness]

like eggs from pyro i mean

if u can still buy em, seen some do that

[austere canyon]

atm i have about 450k

and i have a c1. so whats the most profit per hour i can do without risking too much?

[peak snow]

Unsure about eggs. But drug running is very lucrative in Pyro

Especially if you make the trek to Stanton's scrapyards

[novel harness]

How much is that?

[coarse ember]

36scu of Atlasium
Hdms-edmond or hdms-operi to Bueno ravine, invest 233k

Highest route is probably shepherds nest to hdms-thedus with fresh food

[austere canyon]

how much do i earn from that?

[peak snow]

27 SCU of E'Tam from Golden Riviera to any Stanton scrapyard will net you 100k per run

[coarse ember]

Should be about 345k looking at uexcorp Olivier

[peak snow]

Yeah, the food runs rake in money for sure

[coarse ember]

I just plugged in your ship and half of what you said you had
https://uexcorp.space/trade/routes/?id_vehicle=179

[peak snow]

Doesn't make sense that produce makes more money than drugs, but eh

[austere canyon]

how safe is pyro to do trading in?

[austere canyon]

most say max 140k

[coarse ember]

Shepherd's nest afaik is a hotspot for people waiting on the ground, seemed like that in ptu and I've seen some of it over the past few days where I've been able to play for more than a hour unbothered

Station to station trading is pretty safe tho

Actually I wonder if people would leave me alone to destroy abandoned ships there, theory to test sometimes for me

I doubt it but still worth a shot

[peak snow]

Most scrapyards are surprisingly chill

[austere canyon]

what did you punch in to get the 345k profit

[peak snow]

I've sold several hundred K worth of RMC without a bother

[coarse ember]

Just c1 spirit and 233k investment, nothing else

[austere canyon]

this what i get

even with 300k

[coarse ember]

I'm looking at the top of the list

Nothing else added

[austere canyon]

Can u send a full of the 345k one

so i can see buy station and sell

[coarse ember]

Lemme see if it'll work with landscape and if not I'll have to do ugly desktop mode since I'm not at my PC

[peak snow]

Quick note; Shepherd's Rest is pirate central

The drug running, even though it takes much more time, is a lot safer ironically

[austere canyon]

and bueno ravine is safe?

or somewhat atleast

[coarse ember]

Should be mostly safe, it's a outpost in the middle of nowhere that isn't selling something precious like drugs or gold

[peak snow]

Not safe, but much less dangerous

1st lesson of Pyro, nowhere's totally safe

[austere canyon]

how long yould you estimate a loop of this would take

from hdms to bueno and return to start

[coarse ember]

I just checked and all they sell is dogshit iron so there's basically no reason to be there aside from selling

[austere canyon]

so then just skip that part

still cant get the list to work

even with a taurus it says that the top is 118k

[peak snow]

Do you perhaps have some other filter set?

[coarse ember]

I'd say maybe 1-2h depending on how fast you can load cargo and you QD drive speed if they reverted the change of flatlining all of them to same speed

[austere canyon]

no other filters here

[peak snow]

Am I weird for running efficient QT drives?

My Vulture's got a Vulcan and my C1 has the stock Goliath(?) thanks to their efficiency

I need it since Pyro's so damn big

[coarse ember]

Nah not really weird, just means you take a bit longer to get places with less fuel spent

[peak snow]

Which, once again, I really need in the vulture. When I was running an Atlas, going cross-system would basically take a whole tank

[coarse ember]

I had a 100i for about the same reason, flying in atmo it used the Regen fuel very slowly (store page origin feature) but I've noticed it doesn't do that this patch

Ofc it was only my hydrogen fuel and not quantum stuff cause that'd be like pulling gold out of a person's body

[peak snow]

I had a 135c waaaay back in the day. Wonderful runabout, loved doing box missions

Never got it back after a wipe years ago

[austere canyon]

i think i have found a better alternative.

it pays less per trip. but per 20 minute loop. i get 113k in profit

[peak snow]

Ooh?

[austere canyon]

i get to stay inside stanton

while remaining safe

just get 24scu x2 and 4scu x1

3 boxes loaded

[hasty lintel]

Can anyone sell anything at New Babbage?

All they have in demand are Luminalia Gifts

[tall vigil]

Which commodities have the best margin right now?

I know medical supplies has a 25% margin, which is the best I've found so far

[pastel flame]

YOu want the best ROI or the most profit?

[tall vigil]

ROI

[pastel flame]

IMO once you get a hull C that's where the huge ROI comes in

[tall vigil]

That's what I'm saving for

[pastel flame]

Same!

I bought a C2 first, now Hull C mega loads

For that exact reason basically

invest 500k, make 500k, lol

[tall vigil]

Right now I have a starlancer and the best I've found is Medical supplies

[pastel flame]

Yeah the starlancer has those 1-2 stop loops like the C2 that really pump

Med supplies/XP/Nitrogen/Meth are some of the big ones I trade when doing that

If you go to Pyro you get some interesting options but XP still stays hot

More diamond and gold runs available

[tall vigil]

Diamond and gold have pretty bad margins compared to med supplies and XP

[pastel flame]

Yes, but greater profit

My only complaint about diamond is it's only sold in 16's

Not so bad for the herc but a big PITA with the starlancer max

[tall vigil]

Best margin you will get for gold is 32%. And that is a pyro to stanton route

[pastel flame]

Profit isn't about % only, it's about the value of the material you're running

I'm talking raw AUEC made per trip, that's profit

You're talking about ROI

CIG has intentionally made it so that no matter which ship you're in, you'll make more money if you take on greater risk

Now just like I assume you think, I don't think it's worth it most times for that extra 20% credits to take 80% more risk

[peak snow]

Stanton is just as dangerous

More players hang out in Stanton, so there's more pirates AND more server instability

[austere canyon]

Is pyro more server stable?

[peak snow]

Often yep

Less players on the shards there

[vocal swan]

Lately my greatest hazards have been flying near Crusader and arriving at Baijini Point due to server crashes.

[peak snow]

Most of Stanton's servers have worse FPS

And yeah, arccorp and crusader have been rough apparently

[austere canyon]

So trading is kinda safer in pyro?

[pastel flame]

In my anecdotal experience, definitely. But specifically station to station avoiding certain locations, and no ground outposts.

You won't see more crashes or pirates anywhere but Yela

Shepherds and others are mostly just murderfestivals

[peak snow]

Seer's is pretty chill

[austere canyon]

are golden riviera and rustville safe?

[sage spire]

Are trawlers the best salvage lasers to put on the vulture? If so, should i replace both default lasers and make them trawlers?

[coarse ember]

nah abrades are best
trawler is wide beam but less efficent, abrade is nice middle ground between bigass trawler and pinhole size cinch module

[sage spire]

Okay, i'll go buy another abrade then 🙂 thanks for the help

Also, whats the go to thing with salvage now? I know people use to just run around commiting insurance fraud on their own ships and scraping the paint, but what are people doing now?

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[coarse ember]

mostly scraping panels or illegal salvage contracts you dont pay for

[austere canyon]

why do elevators on outposts just not work

freight elevators specifically

[peak snow]

Nowhere's guaranteed to be safe in Pyro

[austere canyon]

they work everywhere else

[peak snow]

I go to random asteroid fields in Pyro, and either scrape abandoned ships or panels

[peak snow]

I've only had that issue once... Normal SC jank

[austere canyon]

for me its every time im at an outpost

just relogged. if i go back and it still isnt working. im gonna flip a shit

[peak snow]

I mean, it is a preview

But elevators on planets have been buggy since basically forever

[coarse ember]

they just break over time with use it seems, most common used ones like for gold break down pretty quick

[austere canyon]

it always has been this way for me. even on 3.24

[tall karma]

Server specific. Someone had to load cargo and bug the elevator (pretty common) on that server for it to stop working. Recommend doing cargo missions in systems with Distribution Centers (MT/Hurston) because they have dedicated hangars for cargo pickup, and deliver to the station. This results in optimal loops - pickup multiple loads from one or more distribution centers, and deliver all of them to the local station without ever dealing with external cargo elevators.

[peak snow]

I tried at Seer's Canyon once... One elevator was broken, but the other worked fine

I love the less populated parts of Pyro

[austere canyon]

the thing is. im tryna do trades

[peak snow]

Try another elevator at the same outpost maybe?

[austere canyon]

did

[tall karma]

I think most of the optimal trades are actually station to station at the moment. Usually drug deals from Pyro stations.

[peak snow]

I think it's outpost to station

Or outpost to Stanton scrapyard

[tall karma]

Nah, you get like Altruciatoxin at Gaslight and deliver to Rat's Nest or whatnot.

[peak snow]

Ah, true

I should melt my C1 for a Cutty, get into the Pyro vibes

Yeah, less cargo space, but it's Drake

[tall karma]

Reverse my trade route, its Rat's Nest -> Gaslight. Also, its usually better to go with optimal time investment. Trying to grab drugs in Pyro and deliver them to Stanton outposts is going to take you 3-4x as long as doing local system station to station for a marginal increase in payout.

However, for the person not looking to min-max and using cargo routes as a way to explore then going to the different outposts can be really fun. If you find one with a bugged elevator you can always try bedlogging to another region since the next server you join it may be fixed.

[austere canyon]

tried again after relogging

still bugged

[tall karma]

Did you change regions? If you relog to the same region you're 75% likely to rejoin the same server.

[austere canyon]

i changed from best to eu

since im in eu

just gonna do hauling instead

[tall karma]

As you mentioned Best = EU for you, so you should try US or AUS and then you may actually get a working elevator.

Also, open console and type r_displayinfo 1, and you can see the shard you're joining, so you will know if you are rejoining the same shard in relogging.

The regions do change latency, but ultimately that will only matter if you're doing any combat since it will create some desync - shouldn't be noticeable for haulers.

[austere canyon]

how do yo buy cargo at outposts

finally got one that works

i checked all the little houses

im at woodruff

server keeps crashing. and i cant switch back to eu

just not allowed to

[crude thunder]

Some have a little room with a guy standing at a counter. You'll see a console where you can buy materials and they can be pulled up the cargo elevator

[tall karma]

You need to stay on your server until server error finishes before relogging to switch regions.

[tall karma]

For any mining station type outpost like HDMS in Hurston, you will see a building with an orange vertical banner and the word "Storage" above the door. Inside there is a kiosk where you can place cargo orders. Make sure to select the station and not your ship when you order the cargo, and make sure to pick a SCU box size that the station cargo elevator supports (many of them don't support 32SCU boxes for example).

[quiet atlas]

are all rocks on Planets bugged and is there a fix to unbugging them so they can be Mined?

[crude thunder]

are you hand mining, ROC mining, or prospector mining? The size of the rock you're trying to break is in line with the size of the tool... you can fire at a medium rock all day long with the hand tool and get nowhere.

[quiet atlas]

no i mean in the week after xmas all rocks mined with a prospector are bugged on planets there visible but cant scan them and u can fly thru them, wondering if ithis is fixed is a hotfix r theres a work around

[jovial matrix]

just yesterday I tried hand-mining some rocks, but they weren't real and the laser just went through them, so I dont think its been fixed

[quiet atlas]

YAY server error Decided that my Prospector full of 35scu of Bex was too good and Made is go Unknown , GOD i love this POS Game

[random pagoda]

Friend, it happened to my prospector with more than 16 SCU of bexalite ore. I decided to play when PTU goes to live. 😄

[quiet atlas]

Im done AND Obviously the ship comes back missing all the Mole Bags i fitted and gives me back the original IM DONE CIG

[spare cloud]

Did you save your load out through VLM ?
After manually equipping the bags you have to store the ship, remove a component, save, reequip it and save again

[quiet atlas]

yes but it probably bugged out

[spare cloud]

If your PC clock is out sync it won't properly save loadouts

[rose cove]

Is there a bug with placing mining gadets on asteroids or am I special?

[native bluff]

Cargo is delivered Port Tessler and its says Delivered 90/90.. but some how Contract dont end.. what i can do ? 🙂

[snow cosmos]

I don't understand something. Why are my hauling contracts giving me so much cargo? I am told to transport 103 scus of Quartz, but I have like a billion Quartz containers now. wtf?

[sonic fiber]

Same here. Bugged I assume

[snow cosmos]

I heard planet mining is completely broken, stick to asteroids.

[rose cove]

I said asteroid

[snow cosmos]

Responding to Debiil.

[rose cove]

I just figured that out lol sorry.

[snow cosmos]

No worries.

[rose cove]

Though I did do some successful mining in Pyro on planets.

[snow cosmos]

I haven't tried the gadgets yet.

I did try a few mining test runs though, and discovered that with the server errors I lost the cargo 2/3rds of the time.

Cargo as in the gameplay loop for delivering refined cargos.

[rose cove]

The bug tax is real

[snow cosmos]

I have had really good luck solo salvaging and in group salvaging

[rose cove]

Same. Just giving the Mole an old try to see how things are.

[sonic fiber]

It's like when you order 3 tenders and they throw in a free one because it was leftover

[snow cosmos]

Or like 7000 tonnes of completely useless crystals

[rose cove]

That describes most flea markets IRL

[sonic fiber]

Or like you ask for a sauce packet and they give you 50

[native bluff]

O well, Submit button help problem,..solved..

[spice shell]

Can the mole be run solo? OR is it more efficient to use something like the prospector?

[slate spruce]

Mole can be run solo, just prepare mentally for a lot of running around. The profit per hour was slightly better in 3.24 than prospector with normal bags, and worse than prospector with upgraded bags.

Now the actual profit highly depends on bugs

[mild pumice]

Just be careful never submit if it says 0/x even if you have delivered it

As long as it shows delivered it's safe, otherwise the submit button resets all your rep to 0 lol

[native bluff]

Ok, thanks help! I have to look that next time. Some how this time that submit button help to end mission.

[mild pumice]

Yeah if it shows as delivered then it will pay you for what was delivered, so like you can use it of you were missing a box

Sometimes the freight elevator will eat the cargo, in that case submitting will cause the mission to fail and set you right back to ineligible!

[narrow needle]

What’s the best place to sell salvage cargo?

Also where do I get upgrades for my vulture at the same time

[crystal obsidian]

Hi guys i need your light related to hauling mission bugs.

Someone stated once there was a workaround to « hauling missions not completing after delivery ».

Apparently when stacking more than one hauling contract at once: if you track and untrack your missions in a precise order and proceed unloads also in a given sequence that would let you complete each order.

If anyone can confirm the above Id be grateful.
at the moment the game lets me load everything and let me do all the work but only pay one of the 3-4 contracts I stacked

(And I’d lose the reputation with uncompleted orders as well)

[nova plank]

I’ve never had issues completing multiple hauling contracts at once, and honestly do it very regularly. You must keep a record of every SCU container per contract and organize based on what goes where before beginning your run. I can stack up to 6-7 contracts going to 4 different locations and able to complete every one of them without issue.

Main thing is logistics and knowing what SCU container goes to which contract/location

There is no workaround. You’re providing the wrong items at said locations.

I’m hoping they add labels to contracted containers showing which contract mission they belong too

[leaden monolith]

If you're talking about multiple missions to the one destination I have only done this a couple of times. I really don't think the risk of going back to zero rep is worth it.

However when I have done it I deliver and complete each contract one at a time and in the order I accepted them. That so far has worked for me.

[gentle river]

These deliveries fail when stacking 6-7 missions between two points, say Baijini and Area 18

[peak snow]

Note to self, Abrade heads are much better than Trawler on the Vulture
got 11 scu from about as many panels tonight

11, i messed up my math xd

[rose forge]

what salvage heads should I be using on the vulture and where are they located?

[peak snow]

Abrade heads, they're pretty common. Use cstone.space to find locations

They've got a wider spread than the cinch heads, but are more efficient than trawlers

While we're talking about gear for the vulture though, I recommend an Atlas QT drive if you're in stanton, and a Vulcan if you're in Pyro.

Atlas is the fastest S1 QT drive, while the Vulcan gets you the most mileage

[stray swan]

question for the beginner mining dude. Is there a trick to swaping bags between the mole and the prosepector? like ive got a mole, and i wanted to put them onto a prospector so i could go out and mine more... is that still a thing? and is there a trick to it? I've tried the the Multi-tool, but it keeps targeting the ship as a whole and not just the bags.

[leaden monolith]

Sounds like you need to unlock the ports so you can remove and add the bags. Think its LALT-K. If not try RALT-K

[stray swan]

also should mention: the prospector im trying to trick out with mole bags is the loaner you get due to mole issues atm? dunno if that makes a difference, but i'll try the unlocking ports thing

[stray swan]

that worked, Thank you!

[leaden monolith]

Oh once you have the bags on the Prospector, store it, remove a component in the vehicle manager, save, then reverse the process. If you don't you are likely to lose the Mole bags you just put on.

[peak snow]

Yeah, physical component swapping is jank

[stray swan]

ahh, thanks for the heads up, i'll do that

any component? or one of the bags?

[peak snow]

Even in the Mobi, if you swap out your quantum drive, make sure to unequip your jump module first, then re-equip it after

[leaden monolith]

something like the powerplant . Some ppl say doing this with a weapons works as well

[stray swan]

ahh, ok.

thank you again

[peak snow]

I should try ROC mining at some point, apparently it's quite good in Pyro

I forgot which planet it is, but one of them has a lot of hadanite

(I don't know any of the minerals lol)

[rancid epoch]

So I changed my prospector bags for the argo and did the components swap as usual.But when my prospector got destroyed and reclaimed it it came back with the misc ore bags instead.Did it happened to someone else too?

[stray swan]

lol. finished swaping stuff. head to moon around hurston to do some mining, get nuked by an npc AS Soon as i hit an OM point. oh well. back to station to refit everything again

[rancid epoch]

Hey could you check which bags are on your prospector once you reclaimed it?

[stray swan]

yeah, mid server error in orison atm, was gonna tag ya with my results. lol

[stray swan]

sorry, my game quit to desktop and now it keeps crashing to desktop on trying to enter ptu, so im pretty much done for the night i think. im giving it another shot. but not lookin great.

[rancid epoch]

Well thank you for trying

[stray swan]

dunno if you're still around. but after claiming, my prospector once again had MISC bags on it. so i gotta refit as well.

is there any specific mining head/modifier yall recommend for prospector mining?

[rancid epoch]

Sorry I was making food. Thanks for letting me know.

[rancid epoch]

Try helix 1 with reiger c3 and focus 3

And if you are brave enough you could also try 1 helix with a surge and stampede. Might want to bring a couple gadgets incase you want more optimum green zone on some rocks.

[stray swan]

thanks for the heads up. i'll get a variaty and play around withem. only ever done forced-labor hand mining, and some roc mining in like 3.29-3.20, usually im out running panels and such

[mild pumice]

anyone else get annoyed by all the extra small boxes on these missions!

they'll go in the front it's just annoying lol

[austere canyon]

Yes. I hate the tiny boxes in my hauling missions.

Thats why im switching to trading

Cuz i can choose the sizes

[mild pumice]

these should pay more for the loading time vs the smaller missions really, especially with how slow the tractor beams are now

The ATLS is too much of a risk at the moment!

[austere canyon]

True that

Or atleast give us the ability to carry more of the small ones

[mild pumice]

that's art that is lol (163k) took around 40 mins

[kindred gust]

Where is a good Spot to salvage Panels and Stuff?

[craggy tapir]

Yela

[mild pumice]

any asteroid zone has plenty but the main rings Yela/Terminus have more opportunity to find them just because they're a lager area. Also the Aaron Halo if you know how to get to it

I've spotted panels at the asteroid clusters in Pyro too but not the nicest place to be salvaging lol

[kindred gust]

Ok Thank you

[crude thunder]

Good number of small patches spawn around the Lagrange stations in Stanton. Good for vulturing

[peak snow]

Hmmm yes definitely not a pirate looking for vultures

If you're gonna pirate, I genuinely have advice for vultures. Don't.

Seriously, don't pirate a vulture. Let's say you're forced to soft death them

You can't shoot open the cockpit door, and the internal ladder is basically a death trap for any boarder. And if you trying to tractor beam the RMC out of the hold, the pilot will be able to hear you, and then either go through the back or side doors and give you a Coda to the cranium

[kindred gust]

No im not a pirate. But thanks for the advice

[peak snow]

My brother in Chris, your pfp is a skull and crossed swords, we're all assuming you're a pirate lol

[pastel flame]

YES, that's the only time I use ATLS, trash box cleanup!!

The risk sucks for real cargo but once it's all tungsten, quartz etc, yolo

[pastel flame]

Killing the pilot is just a part of forcibly pirating a cargo

[mild pumice]

Same I keep one in my personal hangar for moving boxes but I don't take it with me anymore

[pastel flame]

Ye too bug prone

After a cat or 2 though it's needed

[mild pumice]

I wish the maxlift was a tad faster to move the boxes but I've found switching to the small tool is quicker up to 8scu

The maxlift should be able to yeet smol boxes into orbit lol but I can see why they tuned them to have their own optinal sizes

They just made the maxlift a little bit too annoying

[pastel flame]

I am wondering when the first complaints start coming in about how terrible that endless scrolling is for your hand/wrist over hours per day of cargo. It's really fucking sickening.

How about giving each tractor a mod slot for a suregrip the way ATLS has, hold a button to activate it or scroll

Too much to ask of CIG

[limpid sluice]

Pretty sure there already were complaints when they nerfed tractors about CIG giving haulers arthritis

I do love having a mouse wheel with a free-spinning mode tho

[leaden reef]

There's already leaked text for atls functionality on ship tractor beams

[pastel flame]

Yes there is, sadly still not even on ptu

Cargo pilots begging every patch notes for qol, bug fixes, lol

[native bluff]

My Cargo is stuck in Hangar, ghost hangar effect.. is there any way to get out that situation ? Ghost doors dont open..

[tall karma]

I dunno why people keep dying to the ATLS. I've never had it kill me and I use it pretty much daily. Sometimes it bugs out and bounces around, but as long as I hold the forward input I just take a small % of damage.

Think the lowest HP it got me to was 76%.

Maybe the trick is that I usually move my ATLS with a maxlift before I get into it because its kinda stuck in the hangar floor.

[peak snow]

I know. It's just very tricky to do so if your target is a Vulture

I chat with a buncha pirates and they all hate boarding Vultures

Since, once again, you can't shoot the cockpit door open and the internal ladder is a death trap for boarders

[sonic fiber]

Yep, no reasons we can't use a joystick hat up.or down, like on an actual real life machine

[pastel flame]

That's a "lucky you" thing

[pastel flame]

I get those too

[sonic fiber]

Like that, how cranes control cables

[pastel flame]

It's not a thing people are doing to themselves, I maxlift it too. I've had each bug once in a lot of use. Once spontaneously flung across the hangar at 500 m/s

Didn't kill me but bugged me behind the cargo ele railing

[sonic fiber]

Why's the atlas have arms anyway when there's a tractor beam? It's not actually picking anything up

[pastel flame]

I suspect it's partially a server performance related thing as much as atls thing

[pastel flame]

Rule of cool? Maybe more customization down the line

[peak snow]

Cuz mech, duh

[sonic fiber]

Definitely cool
.maybe intent is to allow it to manually pick up stuff also

Or combat version of course

Punch some aliens

[austere canyon]

does cargo hauling in pyro pay more than in stanton?

[fringe abyss]

nope the same

[austere canyon]

i hear the pyro salvage stuff pays well

so gonna get some credits so i can get those missions

[peak snow]

Don't do salvage contracts

Go to asteroid clusters or abandoned facilities and scrape panels

[fringe abyss]

yeah youll get around 8 scu of rmc from the panels pretty quick

[peak snow]

I got 11 from an 8K scan, using abrades

[fringe abyss]

like 11 panels?

oh you mean rmc

yeah im not that lucky

[peak snow]

It was a big one for sure

[pastel flame]

Yes, the big salvage missions can be full of drugs

[peak snow]

Normally I go for the 4 or 6Ks

[pastel flame]

It does, but not from the RMC, lol

I'm guessing you already know that though

[peak snow]

RMC pays fine

[pastel flame]

Sure, just not in comparison to hulls full of maze

The high end pyro salvage missions are loaded with drugs

That is why they are hearing it's good money, not because it's the best RMC rate

[peak snow]

Fair enough lol

I just like my scraping

[pastel flame]

I enjoy it too, it's like powerwashing simulator mixed with The Expanse vibes.

I'm hoping Starlight gets fixed before 4.0.1 goes LIVE

By far my fav. salvage focused station

[peak snow]

Never been there, been living out of the Stanton Gateway

[pastel flame]

Actually not a bad place to base out of, a few friends have done that.

Starlight is cool, it's a CFP salvage focused station

[peak snow]

The biggest issue with it is it's... Far from most good places in Pyro

[pastel flame]

That's the whole point.

[peak snow]

End up using like a third of my QT tank to get to the good fields

[pastel flame]

I just go to the nearest asteroid field, super close.

Don't usually stop for less than 20k

[peak snow]

Oh wait you mean Starlight? I was referring to the gateway lol

[pastel flame]

Oh lol, my bad, in my own thoughts!

Yeah. At the same time though, it's close to both sides.

Plus, you get a little look at the current pulse/action around the gateway when starting your day, that's why I like Grim Hex, haha

[peak snow]

I've barely been in Stanton this whole time in the preview, Pyro servers are a lot more stable

Grim barely holds a candle to Pyro's splendor

Not to mention, the design team for Pyro caught a absolutely fucken RANCID vibe, and I love it

[rustic reef]

is the refueling stuff now working on more ships for the starfarer or still mainly for smaller craft, compared to 3.24?
sofar hadn't have the chance to try it on someone who needs fuel

[pastel flame]

Yes, unfortunately to unlock the pyro bounties and fun I wanted, I had to live at Grim for a while and push my bounty rep to max.

[peak snow]

Ahh fair

[coarse mountain]

I was surprised by a pirate who snuck up behind me when I was scrapping panels, so now I equip stealth components, turn off the weapons and drop power to shields and coolers to one bar. Just a hole in the void. They have to be right on top of me to spot me. My CS is still 11k from the top on the slim chance they happen to approach from that direction.

[peak snow]

Damn

[pallid talon]

my friend just bought a vulture and he wants to salvage and make alot of money what does he need to upgrade from the stock vulture?

or does it not really matter

[peak snow]

Replace the salvage heads with Abrade heads, and upgrade your QT drive to either an Atlas for speed or a Vulcan for fuel efficiency

Mind, if you're replacing the QT drive, unequip the jump module before swapping it out

Re-equip it after, it's a bug rn

[pallid talon]

@fleet flicker

[fleet flicker]

can you get those in pyro?

[peak snow]

I'm unsure of exact locations. If you're in pyro, definitely go for the Vulcan as the jump distances are so much longer

Use cstone.space to find the items in game

[austere canyon]

where do i sell stolen stuff?
like stuff from salvage and like that
also components i harvested

[coarse mountain]

grim hex, CRU-L4 NQA terminal

[peak snow]

provided you're in stanton of course

there's also scrapyards, and loads of places in Pyro

On a different note

Made my first honest million today!

feels goooood

[novel forge]

hell yeah dude! vulture or reclaimer?

[craggy tapir]

its vulture

the freight elevators is from a small hangar and its all 1scu boxes

[novel forge]

yeah nice i just hit 41 scu

its so slow with the vulture though, my got i want a reclaimer

anyone currently doing salvage and want another crew member/vulture? tryna make some money

[spare cloud]

Try in #looking-for-session instead 👍

[chilly lake]

are there no direct hauling missions at member rank?

[hasty lintel]

For 2 weeks I've been trying to sell Construction Materials at New Babbage at the Admin terminal just to realise there is now a whole NEW TERMINAL instead of the old one

At least I got my 3.2 mil

[spark crest]

does anyone know how many k money you can get max from one hauling mission if you got max rep?

[peak snow]

Yep, vulture

All solo, panels scraped in Pyro's asteroids

• a random dead NPC cutlass

[peak snow]

It's not that slow?

It's not the fastest money but it's by far the most reliable

That 378k was like 1.5 nights of scraping, server issues stranded me on Baijini for most of one night.

Are you maybe using Trawler heads? They're not worth it on the Vulture, since you wanna maximise RMC specifically

Use Abrade heads, or, if you're a masochist, Cinch heads

They give the most RMC per panel

[coarse ember]

thanks to a helpful tip by @grave grove here found this, they couldn't link it in #market-street so im putting it here

https://ruadhan2301.github.io/SCHaulingManifest/
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1hz48vp/hauling_contract_manager_update_v12_experimental/

oh yeah and this extra comment in case it just looks like it copy-pastes the contracts

[pastel flame]

@tall karma My ATLS won't snap anymore, it's stuck on scroll. Any suggestions

it's definitely related to my herc's cargo grid

If I pull stuff off grid it's fine

[mighty orchid]

you tried to pick-release-pick thing?

[pastel flame]

Sorry, can you be more descriptive? LIke Pick up, drop, pick up?

[mighty orchid]

like you try to pick box from the grid -> it does not snap -> you release tractor beam and pick it once more

at least that worked back in a days when I tried herc and atls

[pastel flame]

Oh ya, good idea, but no. I ended up solving it by just sloughing them all to the side off grid

The herc is still broken I guess

[tall karma]

This was the change they made in 3.24.3 where the ATLS was difficult to use for precision placement, so it doesn't pick up and snap after a container gets locked to the ship grid. You have to move it off grid and then release/re-grab.

[pastel flame]

Weird, I could swear using it with my starlancer was NBD in that way this patch

Luckily it's minor inconvenience to break the herc's grid

[tall karma]

I've not tried with a starlancer, but any Herc, connie, carrack, cat, and starlancer will block snapping until the container is off the grid.

[pastel flame]

Nah it's probably true across the board, I avoid the ATLS like the plague

I'm just doing 9 batches of covalex to get rep for the Hull C missions I want.

[tall karma]

It's actually a nice feature because it'll let you place boxes a little more precisely while organizing a ship, but only after you snap it somewhere 1st.

[pastel flame]

I get the idea, but would prefer just an option for snap or not on all tractors, ez

It bothers the meticulous side of my cargo regimen to bust a grid before I can efficiently move

[tall karma]

Heh, things get stuck in the herc a lot once it's 32scu boxes. I'd like them to fix the landing issue for the Herc too

[pastel flame]

Upside, 9 missions was like 1/4 of this rep stage

[pastel flame]

I run a maxlift for loading 32's in it and find it overall smoother/as fast as the ATLS. Mostly due to those reasons

In PTU it does seem to sit better

I'm in Hull C Gang now though, it's worked flawlessly.

[tall karma]

Loading the herc without an atls (or unloading one) is my definition of bad game experience

But then my buddy who's into games like satisfactory and crap loves to play cargo tetris with a maxlift

Hopefully they don't decide to do a credits / ship wipe! It's entirely possible to reset people's abuse of bugs

[pastel flame]

I love satisfactory, but I also have a control setup where i'm not scrolling much.

Moving 20ish 32's onto that grid really isn't any kind of torture compared to filling a zeus with stacked rookie cargo missions, lol

Not that far

Thanks again though, totally makes sense and surprised I didn't notice it 🙂 breaking grid it is.

[rain tinsel]

Is hull C working yet?

[tall karma]

To some degree provided you ensure a fully repaired and functional ship before attempting any cargo transfer.

And the server doesn't crap itself during transfer

[pastel flame]

Yeah, I was careful but had flawless runs last night

[rain tinsel]

good, is there any point in having a crew for that? other then the company of course

[pastel flame]

No

I have involved one in piracy/drug running a bit, and then it pays to have one person on the tractor station

[rain tinsel]

thats too bad, its a big ship to solo all the time

[pastel flame]

Yeah it's a whole different experience. Docking, driving it, loading up.

[rain tinsel]

I am still hoping they will get the Mining Bags fixed on the Moles so we can just mine areas out and have haulers pick up the ore

sometimes I question the need for my Mole Carbon Edition

other then being a dedicated miner, I probably need it lol

[velvet totem]

Anyone able to confirm a shop that has the Novikov on display?

[craggy tapir]

You mean at the terminal?

[spare cloud]

No, on display.

[glass gate]

Hey, is there a way to transfer minerals from the roc and to a storage box? Other than to split them and take them in turns by hand 🤔

[spare cloud]

Get the storage containers at the back of the ROC, next to its storage unit.

If you're quick enough, you can open both at once.