industrial-professions

[silver creek]

But I have a pioneer pledged

Which I might melt too a polaris then buyback the pioneer

Cuz I do like polaris

Don't wanna own it perm tho

[raw shell]

I haven't seen either of those ships yet. The starlancer sounds too damn big though

[limber compass]

after doing the re-equip on some modules and reclaiming the prospector

all is good now

[raw shell]

where did you get yours, salvage mission?

[limber compass]

yeah claimed a legal Mole salvage

[raw shell]

do those contracts say it's a mole up front?

[limber compass]

yeah

ARGO Mole ...

you need to push the wreck outside the armstice zone or have a ship with a tractor though

[raw shell]

does it take long to progress to the point of getting those contracts to show up? I've done zero

[limber compass]

When you board it to unlock ports, actually it might have unlocked ports allready

You have to Open All doors also, since for some reason i couldn't open doors after i unlocked ports

you know, the usuall workarounds 😄

[limber compass]

takes some time, also the servers kinda slow, my 50k salvage claims showed up after a day i salvaged 3 Arrows

[raw shell]

yep I'm familiar with the mole brokenness... stupid question, you can't just fly away in that mole and mine with it can you?

[limber compass]

idk... maybe you can replace some modules and do that

but how would you store it?

also then just rent a mole

the wreck has stock modules anyways

[raw shell]

probably can't put new mining heads on them if you coud.... and dunno if I'd risk loosing a helix II on one

not being able to change lasers and modules on a rental make that nearly useless

[limber compass]

I remember people doing illegal salvage claims, where you have to "get rid of evidence" you could power on and warp out with the wreck somehow 😄

which cleared the mission

the average mining experience right now

I am the ROCK

[mighty ocean]

how do cargo missions work when you are grouped in a party? Split rep and cash or bigger cargo loads?

[flint forge]

you rock....

[limber compass]

or nice double 8 stacks after a long job

[dapper mesa]

When do you start seeing higher level hauling missions? Have ranked up to junior and still only seeing rookie.

[cunning agate]

That’s awful. Hmmm. Get the bags on and get it to a station. Land it, send it down the elevator. Then open mobiglas and take off a weapon and save it. Put the weapon back on and save it.

Yes. This is lame and bothersome. But by doing that you have “registered” in the database that the Prospector has the Argo bags.

I got mine from a bh or mercenary mission that had as one of the ships a Mole. Disabled it then pulled the bags.

If I’m wrong in this process (working from memory here) then someone correct me.

[odd snow]

Anyone else have issues with taking salvage contracts and the ship you are salvaging just disappears in the middle of scraping it?

Had it happen on 3x 50k contracts now, and on the 4th my reclaimer disappeared in the middle of it and now I’m just floating here.

[cunning agate]

Yeah the servers are culling entities. It’s a problem across several loops. While recovering cargo from a bh ship it will disappear along with everything still on the grid,

[odd snow]

Gotcha. Any way to prevent my own ship from disappearing while I’m in the salvaging turret?

To be fair that is the first time it’s done it. But it was an expensive disappearance

[cunning agate]

If your own ship is disappearing that’s a bigger problem!

[odd snow]

Yea it did. Before it happened I was disconnected with a crash to desktop. Logged right back in and was still in the turret with the salvage contract ship in front of me, so I proceeded to continue scraping it. About 3-5 mins later my reclaimer disappears.

In hindsight I suppose I should have bedlogged for a while once I was CTD and made it back in

[rose forge]

does anyone hate the starlancers hold? or is that just me?

[limber compass]

i want to befriend as many prospector and mole owners as possible, so i can ask for assitance on giant jackpot rocks

[covert sun]

Hey, seeing as the C2 is... eye-wateringly expensive in-game now, what would you guys say is the next best step up for cargo hauling after a C1?

[vestal ravine]

In general I would say the Taurus as it can fight pretty well for bounty cargos. Or what I did was save up $400.00 for the C2.

[covert sun]

Gotcha, Taurus looks pretty good - solid upgrade for storage space. Would you say it's easy to use with the tractor beam?

[pastel flame]

Best tractor in the game

[vestal ravine]

I never got to use it as it was an in game ship but as D3 says it's pretty good. Originally I hated the look of the Constellation ships and until a free fly event waking up in the Taurus from bedlogging was like a cosmic experience. Plus it helped me get to the highest rank in Vaughn.

[humble merlin]

Hmmm I actually think I like the C1 tractor more (it can move!)

[pastel flame]

To each their own! I like moving big containers too

The gimbal tractors also feel finnicky to me

[cunning agate]

Better than the Hull C tractors? Those things are monsters!

[humble merlin]

I just think it's neat that it can reposition from the top to grab anything from above and in front, and then from the cargo entry to get anything behind and below

[pastel flame]

True!

[pearl juniper]

Wow hauling mission pay is broken now. Making 400k/hr doing rookie level hauling with a Cutter.

[grizzled plume]

anyone wanna sell me some mole bags?

[cloud condor]

can you buy steel at everus?

[pastel flame]

Pretty standard since the mission refactor! Enjoy that cutter!

[mighty prawn]

Is it worth looking into upgrading Roc's mining laser?

[mighty prawn]

Now as in 3.24 or 4.0 Preview?

[pearl juniper]

yep, fun little ship. I wish it had a cargo grid that more closely matched the size of the cargo bay (like 10 scu maybe), but it's a good ship regardless.

[pearl juniper]

4.0

[mighty prawn]

Are you referring to doing chain 50k missions under the Hauling?

[brittle orchid]

how much are each tier of cargo hauling missions worth? specifically in pyro in 4.0

i really like them, but want to see if it's more worth doing than just cross-system trading

[pearl juniper]

yeah, can fit 2x 50k missions in a Cutter, and do a run from Baijini Point down to A18 in 15 minutes round trip.

[pearl juniper]

50ish, 75ish, 100ish at the first three tiers.

[mighty prawn]

Is that only available in A18? or on all planet side with its station? and Pyro too?

[pearl juniper]

I haven't looked too much for similar in other places, but it wouldn't surprise me if they exist

[brittle orchid]

HIGHLY recommend the caterpillar, especially if you're doing the cargo contract missions. get an atls and the large tractor beam tool, put the atls in the front bay, and everything else is cake. it has a tractor beam on both sides that you can position to be able to grab every crate out of the elevator and put it on the platform that folds out for each bay. unloading is ungodly fast with the atls, and you can stay fairly well protected while doing it all

[brittle orchid]

gotcha

[frank warren]

Also, the table now comes up in the Connie’s!!

Now they just need to fix the hot tub in the phoenix

[cloud condor]

they can't even fix the damm coffee machine

[pastel flame]

Haha, I shocked myself cursing the table the other day lazily clicking the personnel elevator and getting table instead

[vestal ravine]

I saw a review the hot tub cover slid back and there was water in the jacuzzi. At Rat's Nest the bartender served me a beer. Better late than never but it didn't raise my hydro level.

[pastel flame]

Big fan of Rat's personally!

[spare cloud]

You cannot actually upgrade it afaik, which doesn't matter since both lasers you see here are totally capable of mining every gem rocks, and not ore rocks at all.

The other laser is from the ROC DS

[mighty prawn]

oh, got it, thanks

[rose forge]

any medium cargo ships you guys can recommend?

my eyes are so far set on the freelancer max

[cloud condor]

RSI zeus

[rose forge]

the loading bay is offcented

centered

[cloud condor]

crusader C1

[spare cloud]

I wouldn't go for a Freelancer. They all have a middle part in which you can't put shit cause the door is too small, so you lose 12 SCU. And they're weird ships, very old, bugged

Spirit C1, Zeus CL, Connie Taurus, Cutlass Black.

[rose forge]

I might go for the taurus

[spare cloud]

CL is very compact, lots of cargo, but not ideal for hauling contracts.
If you wanna do hauling, I'd go C1 over CL.

Cutlass Black is the discount option, also a decent fighter.

[jovial matrix]

I might be wrong, but I dont think you cn actually swap the ROCs mining laser. The stronger one is off of the ROC-DS, and I dont think you can en-equip the laser from either vehicle

[spare cloud]

Taurus is a step above each one of these, but still in medium freight category.
Good grid, nice tractor, and best PvE ship for high level bounties

[rose forge]

it has a tractor beam?

[spare cloud]

Yeah, bottom turret

[rose forge]

im sold

[spare cloud]

Each one of these has a tractor beam

But afaik Cutlass one never worked

[cloud condor]

the zeus has a tractor beam?

[spare cloud]

Zeus CL yes

Not ES and MR

[last bear]

anyone else having issues with the head hunters hauling ask mission

ive tried like 6 times on multiple servers to get these fkn delivery scu to spawn

nothing in the cargo elevator storage

[brisk gorge]

Cutlass tractor beam works. I use it all the time.

[burnt flame]

anybody know the best places to mine at?

[brisk gorge]

What are you looking to mine? Hand? Prospector?

[burnt flame]

prospector

and gold

[brisk gorge]

Just fly around and investigate anything that says Unknown. I don't think ore spawns in specific locations, but each astroid is different. Same for ore on planets

[burnt flame]

any astroid feilds in arcorp

[brisk gorge]

I like to do one near L1 stations. Makes going back to refine the ore faster

[burnt flame]

Cheers mate

[pastel flame]

A sporty little Taurus cargo run!

[burnt flame]

how do i collect my refined materials???

[humble merlin]

How long did it take you for that run?

[pastel flame]

Not too long, about 80gm jump in a taurus

6-7 mins jump plus the load

[humble merlin]

Auto-loading?

[frank warren]

True that

[brisk gorge]

From the refinery. Will put them in your ship automatically

[brisk gorge]

How can you sell to a mining outpost if it wont recognize the container you have your gems in? Am I missing something?

[leaden monolith]

If you lowered the container on the freight elevator then open it up and take the gems out.

[patent acorn]

Is salvage still worth it in 4.0 compared to mining and cargo hauling? I haven't played in a while and it used to be really good doing ilegal contracts. Now I'm not so sure...

[brisk gorge]

I couldn't find a way to do it in the elevator terminal. There wasn't a storage terminal at the sites

[vestal ravine]

I had to stand on the freight elevator and drop 142 gems one by one to the floor then send them down. To dumb to figure out the crates or backpack. When I went to the control panel a couple gems oozed out from the edges so I grabbed those to. Weirdness.

[grand frigate]

Hello, what could be a good ship progression for cargo ?
After a C1 should we aim for something like a freelancer max to have 120SCU ? Or directly aiming for something like a caterpillar ?

[polar fable]

how good is mining in pyro compared to stanton?

with a mole or a roc?

[pastel flame]

Nah, manual all the way!

[humble merlin]

Damn, nice

[pastel flame]

Put the hadanite in 1 scu box. Put box on cargo elevator. Send elevator down. Go to personal inventory terminal, expand 1 scu box in inventory terminal, drag out hadanite. Sell.

[spare cloud]

For hauling contracts ? I think I'd jump from C1 to Taurus, and once you got really big contracts, C2.

Would certainly not go for a FL, I'd rather keep using the C1 and stack cargo off grid

[grand frigate]

Ok i see thanks

[paper cedar]

Is it me or has anyone else noticed in pyro the cargo containers are larger? I have a avenger titan with 8 scu but when the missions give 2x4scu containers I cant fit them through the cargo hatch...in stanton I used to get 1 scu boxes off the freight elevator...have I just been unlucky or is it a case in a titan I'm best being in stanton to get the right haulage cargo boxes?

[pallid talon]

How much did you spend

[covert sun]

Hey, how would you guys go about going from about 300k credits to 8 mil as quickly as possible? I have a C1 and a Corsair at my disposal. Really into hauling, trading etc. Don't mind doing a bit of combat but really trying to figure out a way with industrial professions.

I suppose ultimately I'm trying to go for trading routes but it feels risky with just 300k right now, and probably not so efficient with just 64SCU. Which is why I want 8mil for the Taurus

[crimson mantle]

Stacking hauling missions is probably the fastest at the moment for your situation.

[spare cloud]

If you're into tractor beaming and don't use auto (un)loading, off grid space is very valuable.

C1 can fit about 100-120 SCU without much trouble

[covert sun]

Depends on the box sizes I guess, I had a mission with 4 and (mostly) 8 SCU boxes that I had to do two runs on because I couldn't fit more even off grid. That was a 109 SCU contract.

[spare cloud]

Depending on your Tetris skills, you can even keep a way out without having to tractor the boxes

[covert sun]

I'll give this a shot, once hauling contracts are a little more stable in 4.0 lol

[covert sun]

Oh, now I just realized - with using the tractor beam I don't even need a way out. I didn't even realize that before 😅 that makes things easier! I can fit at least 3 more 8 SCU boxes then.

[spare cloud]

Yeah, and you can optimize how you use the space #industrial-professions message

4-8 SCU containers are fairly easy to stack

[covert sun]

Exactly the same method I've been using 👍 and you can fit 4 SCU boxes in between the 8 SCU boxes on the grid and the wall too.

[vestal ravine]

I'm frustrated with the Free Max ship can't exit the bridge area door nor get the rear ramp up from outside. Using it with a Roc. Somehow the ramp got halfway closed and I used the tractor beam to lift the Roc over the ramp and drop outside. Then when I put the helmet in my inventory to take a drink it disappeared. End of mission. So take an extra helmet seems to be good advice even though I may have been stranded on the ship maybe do a repair?

[leaden reef]

there's an interesting trade from shepherd's rest to jackson's swap. they are very close and there's a 39% ROI. prob will require a team to lock it down and a team for loading

[coarse ember]

Idk how much the sell per scu prices changed but it feels roughly the same, stuffing my vulture full did me about 400k so still a viable option

I think I did 350k almost on the dot tho I had to split that to pay back vulture funds to someone

[brisk gorge]

I couldnt find the personal inventory terminal at the mining outpost, which is what the issue was. Neither one on Aberdeen had it.

[polar fable]

Anyone here know if I can move mined/refined ore from my mole to my friends cargo hauler?

also is pyro or stanton better for mining atm>

[brisk gorge]

Probably could if ore containers weren't broken on freight elevators.

[polar fable]

can you manually do it? and have it show up in the other persons cargo to be sold? Like we go mine in player As mole, refine it then once weve done several hauls put all of that into player Bs cargo ship to sell?

[quiet atlas]

anyone know is surface rocks are fixed and minble?

[brisk gorge]

Can't get the ore containers off the freight elevators, so I don't think so.

[brisk gorge]

Some are if you have the ROC or Prospector. They will be at "unknown" POIs and will be highlighted.

[quiet atlas]

i know but alot show and are visiable but u cant mine then and can just fly thru them and bugged

[brisk gorge]

Ahhhhhhhhh, sorry. I misundewrstood the question. I think it is still random. I had a few spots where i just went through the rocks last night in my ROC, but over all, it was more could mine over couldnt mine.

[distant osprey]

Astitine 49% ROI in stanton rn?

[gentle river]

For chained hauling contracts, can you load 1 SCU containers into 8SCUs you buy at the cargo store?

[spare cloud]

Yes, that works

[gentle river]

Oh shit, game changer

[pastel flame]

Don't recall, standard diamond prices

[pastel flame]

Never use outpost freight elevators for anything important

[covert sun]

Just stacked 6 hauling contracts in 4.0 preview and all of them worked nearly flawlessly, one had a minor issue but still managed to get it to finish. I think it's finally looking promising for hauling in 4.0 👍

[gentle river]

So this seems bugged unless someone knows a workaround 😦

[covert sun]

Typical.. right as I say this I start getting waaaayyyy more cargo than the contract states. These two rows are both supposed to be 11 SCU of cargo 🤔 I guess it's still janky as hell.

[covert sun]

This has been bugged ever since hauling missions were first introduced unfortunately and I've never heard of a workaround or fix. Finger's crossed though 🤞 and it's possible I missed something

[hasty lintel]

I got two of these filled up

Station inventory at 101% and i still got boxes

WHY

[hasty lintel]

I can't sell the cargo I put into the station

I'ma kms

[novel forge]

which salvage modules is everyone using/reccomend??

[coarse ember]

abrades

[novel forge]

ive noticed the abrade is a lot more efficient. should i prioirtise the efficiency or the diameter?

[quiet atlas]

anyone know if the Helix 1 is available to buy in pyro and Where

got it at ruin 😉

[novel forge]

anyone know how to get scraper modules out of my inventory? i cant drop it on the cround becuase its not carryable and the frieght elevator says its being blocked by the module when i place it on the elevator from the warehouse...........

[raw shell]

is it possible to sell hadanite at a mining facility?

can you just load it into a crate and send it down the freight elevator?

[mighty prawn]

Can Zeus ES hold a Roc? with its 32 SCU?

[flint forge]

hope they pay you extra on delivery

[hollow sedge]

hello, does anyone know if there is a time frame / limit / range for the escrow services at the cargo deck, when I buy cargo in admin, station takes my $ and I then fly to cargo decks and then I get the cargo. Well long story short there was a bug with my ship and I had to claim, which is a long wait time, anyone know how long the station will hold my cargo?

[quiet atlas]

is there a place to sell gems on ruin station cant find anywhere

[leaden monolith]

This is just an assumption but, based on the fact that a station will hold cargo you send down on your freight elevator (basically) indefinitely, I would assume it would hold bought cargo indefinitely as well.

[stable osprey]

I see the taurus has 174 scu of cargo but where do the three 2scu containers go?

[hollow sedge]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_g4Wi5qA4hXcqQM3cCNNd6qaxaL85rdT-WXXSkovapE/edit?gid=0#gid=0 check the pyro outposts tab, and look up your handminables

[hollow sedge]

Jackson's Swap is the only outpost in pyro that buys hadanite, I do not see aphorite or dolvine on that list. Ruin Station will buy all three in the admin office, near the shops / market

hope that helps, can search the pyro outpost and pyro stations tab its all there

[hollow sedge]

Its cargo deck has room for 168 and the remaining 6 scu are stored in the very back, its a shieled cargo area for drugs which cannot be detected by scanners or stargates, police, etc

[leaden monolith]

Body storage area 👍

[stable osprey]

Ohhh. Past the component room, where the snub fighter would be?

[leaden monolith]

yes

[stable osprey]

Ok. Guess i will just have to yeet the containers up there while loading lol

I rented the ship to see how loading and unloading is. I would like better than the zeus cl.

[leaden monolith]

I rarely if ever bother with that extra 6scu in the Taurus. As for the Zeus I was never a fan of the cargo layout.

[stable osprey]

I like the zeus es and in the beginning like the CL but as I started doing trading, i realized the containers were a pain to load and unload. So I might upgrade it to the taurus. The connie Andromeda was my third ship when I started playing back in 3.19 and I like the Connie besides the bar going across the bridge that blocks my view sometimes. But other than that I like the design of the connie.

[ocean compass]

high inventory. need to wait. thats the way it is, you may need to swap stations etc when station inventory high. or you just wait 10-15mins for a repop and sell

[ocean compass]

connie taurus is pretty nice. but the elevator freight gets annoying pretty quick, i much prefer ramp ass ships

in reality the freight elevator is pretty hard to stock to max manually because it's 3high

so like if your doing 24scu containers you need to put in 4 scu containers on top

so being a lazy ass man, if im doing outpost trading, i usually just take 24x 4 (96) + 2x 8(16) and call it a day.

[dapper mesa]

Anybody know why I only have trainee cargo missions in pyro even though I'm at junior with red wind?

[spare cloud]

In the section E of the ship. All the way at the back.
It's a shielded area (not implemented yet) that's scan proof.

[stable osprey]

I've been following this. Now, im going to ignore the 6 2scu containers bc i did found out it was a pain to get them into that room in the back. ill just buy 168 scu and load it on the elevator. the setup in the picture worked well.

[ocean compass]

definitely works

[scarlet thistle]

same thing with me I woud also like to know why is that I woud ques not implemented or bug ?

[polar fable]

hey all, i havent played since the cargo refactor... so I want to askm do I have to unload the cargo in my hold manually into the freight elevator and store it to be able to sell it?

[stable osprey]

Yes. However, I dont know what you need to do if you have a hull c. For everything else, you need to unload it onto the freight elevator, send it down, and then you can sell it.

Make sure to select the location you are at to sell so it can show up to be sold.

[polar fable]

I need to drop it off at the location I want to sell correct?

also is Ruin station the only cargo place in pyro?

[polar cliff]

are cross system hauling runs worth it?

as in ones that go from stanton to pyro and vice versa, the profits are only 20k more per run but I wanted someone elses opinion on it

[stable osprey]

Correct. So if you go to a station, land in the hangar, unload the goods into the freight elevator, send it down, and then you can go to the terminal in the gallery to sell.

As for Pyro, I'm unsure. I've been staying in Stanton unless I'm with a group.

[leaden monolith]

I have always loaded those smaller scu crates on the bottom first despite what the diagrams used to show. I've always found it much easier that way.

[stable osprey]

You have to factor in risk. You might get ambushed if trying to sell in Pyro. The probability is higher than in Stanton atm. I've found just doing trading within the system is better. At least on Stanton side. But that's my own experience. I too, would like others to weigh in with their experiences.

[polar cliff]

ignoring the risk, the actual time/profit is negligable, 20k more per normal (for me anyways) is great until you factor in the extra 10 minutes it takes for travel time

thinkin it over, I wouldnt say its worth it beyond very large ships, and at those scales its not a great idea to go to pyro

I think it might change tho when they introduce more friendly systems and bigger jump points

[polar fable]

at which terminal do I have to go to sell? I cant sell at the cargo shop apparently

[polar cliff]

the admin terminals

if your in stanton theyre gonna be located in the galleria in an orange shop

idk about pyro

[raw shell]

I have a crate of hadanite. To sell at brios on daymar, do I just send it down in a freight elevator and sell it at a terminal?

[stable osprey]

Oh could you imagine trading between terra and stanton? im excited for more systems.

[polar cliff]

yes

[raw shell]

Thanks!

[cunning agate]

I explored the M2 Hercules and the turrets make no sense. Any info?

[spare cloud]

Like that ? #star-citizen message

[polar fable]

is there a way to autoload cargo from warehouse to ship?

[cunning agate]

Oh! Interesting. I couldn’t get the copilot weapons to fire while I was in it today.

So the copilot has essentially 4xS4 weapons, in the rear arc.

[scarlet thistle]

you might be able to load and unload cargo from ship automaticaly on some places

but I personaly did not try it

[scarlet thistle]

in pyro it is still administration terminal but the flor is not caled galeria it is on the same flor where you can sumon ships from those orange terminals

[dapper mesa]

Lmao an ATLS is absolutely comical in a XL hanger

It's admin, on the main entrance near all the shops

[scarlet thistle]

if you want to auto-load the materials you buy you shoud be able to do it

same with unloading it

well on the places that let you do it

but if you meant the cargo that hauling misions spawn in warehouse I ques you need to load that manualy

[polar fable]

thanks!

Can anyone here tell me if its more lucrative to do hadanite mining in pyro or normal mining in stanton?

[scarlet thistle]

also the interface looks bugy when selecting the ship xd

[polar fable]

when does it not xD

[scarlet thistle]

woud be nice to know why those misions dont count the cargo when I deliver it 😦

was doing the hauling missions in pyro but even tho my reputation is on junior I keep geting only traine tier mision there

soo went to try it in stanton but when I pick more misions to do at once some dont count the cargo and I can only get rid of them

actualy even in pyro the mision started loking broken in alst few days

like mision said deliver 8SCU of something

but when I took the mision it gave me 17SCU of something instead of 8SCU that it said

[scarlet thistle]

If you want to mine hadanite in pyro you still might want to sell it in stanton so who knows

[coarse cape]

can anyone else not hail the cargo deck at stations in a hull c?

[hollow sedge]

a few times, for me, seemed like it didnt want to work, 80% of the time, worked flawlessly, 10% didnt work at all, 10% worked but only after waiting out the server recovery

[leaden reef]

about the same % for me

but 10% chance of losing everything makes it not worth

i did about 12 runs and one of them it seems like my purchase didnt register but my auec was deducted

[serene socket]

This new inventory system isnt nearly as bad as I thought it would be

[harsh shoal]

Can anyone recommend a service like sc-trade that works for 3.24? I believe that service only supports 4.0 now, tried one of the routes yesterday and outpost didn't even have the stock mentioned 😅

[spare cloud]

Yeah, but can only use one turret at a time sadly.
A Hercules can never use its full firepower because of that.

[rigid flicker]

Hey there does anybody know where we can get the hot undersuit in 4.0 preview as it doesn’t seem to be available. I found the cold helmet at a mining site but that’s it. I hope this is the right place to post this.

[spare cloud]

It's not buyable anymore

Get yourself a heavy/medium armor, for 60/40-20 minutes lifetime in Aberdeen.
More than enough to go ROC mining

[rigid flicker]

Thanks for the speedy response. Might I suggest something? Having these suits drop in PvP areas might be a little over the top. If they were introduced into the mining loop say you have 10% chance of finding a dead corpse with one on it at nodes then it would make sense. Thanks again for the reply.

[spare cloud]

Go suggest that to CIG on spectrum, they don't read here

[knotty dove]

Neither they bother reading Spectrum much

[wraith cairn]

Can man auto unload RMC when selling it from a Vulture?

[spare cloud]

You can only auto unload what's on the grid.
And fee quickly goes up with a lot of 1 SCU containers.

Generally, Vulture or Reclaimer, it's not worth using auto unloading

[wraith cairn]

Mmm okay thanks

[hidden garden]

Only reason I auto unload my carrack is because it's like 27 16 scu containers and the carrack is a pain to load

[vestal ravine]

I saw a trader land it with wheels up...makes it much easier.

[hidden garden]

there's also some containers that cant be loaded except with two people so autoload is the only way

[vestal ravine]

I had the Carrack in game but really liked the ship and hope they can make further improvements on the cargo holds.

[hidden garden]

I enjoy mine 🙂

[tall linden]

What cargo are you trading in your Carrack? I have a loaner for my Galaxy and I rarely use it (I also have a SL MAX)

[covert sun]

Hey guys, how much approximately is salvaging making right now in 4.0 with the Vulture? Trying to make an informed decision on whether I should replace my Corsair with a Vulture.

[hidden garden]

check sc trade tools

[covert sun]

Actually a better question from my previous one - what do you guys think is the best moneymaker in 4.0, salvage or mining?

I would enjoy either and just want to earn more ships in-game as quick as possible, without relying on contracts

[vestal ravine]

I would go with the Vulture. I use it to make quick chunks of credits at 12 scu then if you go for the high 20's it's even better. The panels are a good target.

[distant osprey]

Eux

[coarse ember]

uexcorp or !tradetools

[jolly dagger]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[coarse ember]

they share most of the same data with eachother but uex is abit behind iirc

[pastel flame]

Had not noticed this, got any examples? Been alternating between the two but enjoying the trade tools app

[mighty prawn]

Is this hadanite, I am at Aberdeen, how can I tell if this site is worth it?

[pastel flame]

If you click "parts" in your scanner, you can see the mineral type. But that is a ship mining rock, far too large. You want clusters of small, about knee/waist high rocks

They will show up on scan closer than the big guys generally

I would recommend getting the hell out of aberdeen and going either daymar or better, Pyro, but you can find it there!

[mighty prawn]

oh, why? I thought Aberdeen is the best place for Hadanite. is it becuase it is too hot

[coarse ember]

they have it as small text on the bottom of the sites, uex i assume people have to punch stuff in, sc trades tools has a program that you run in the background when looking at terminals and makes a clean file you just upload to sc trade tools once you're logged in with a account

[pastel flame]

It's actually the worst place IMO

[coarse ember]

daymar

[pastel flame]

Hassle and expense to get to a place that has no better spawns

[coarse ember]

aberdeen is bad since no heat suit rn either so not even worth trying

[pastel flame]

Yeah fair, I don't like stuff running like that in the background, sounds convenient though

[pastel flame]

It was never worth

[crude thunder]

ah that heat suit.... everyone forced to buy it from pledge store and walk around looking like the michelin man mascot with purple highlights

[mighty prawn]

Yeah, I see that most the scan returns empty so far, I thought it was because I was new to this. I will try Daymor.

Where to sell the gems? any admin office? Are the sell prices same across the verse/

[pastel flame]

They vary place to place, I'd suggest sc trade tools or uexcorp for finding commodity sale locations and deciding which is best for you 🙂

[ashen oyster]

To anyone who has ever had the ARGO RAFT get damaged or fully destroyed when unloading 1, 2 or 4 SCU sized boxes please head to the link below to contribute to the report. We need more people reporting the issue so it can get fixed.

Thanks

https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-148869

[cunning agate]

Yeah. I thought perhaps the two turrets were slaved together but not so. One at a time.

I am trying out some bindings to make the switchover faster. Even with only two turrets it’s a decent bit of firepower. Coupled with two S3 shields the M2 is a sturdy girl.

[cunning agate]

Pembroke is badass.

And let’s face it ROC miners aren’t collecting the space babes anyway…

[covert sun]

!tradetools

[jolly dagger]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[pastel flame]

Definitely not in Aberdeen XD

[polar fable]

any miners here can tell me where to go for ROC mining?

is Ignis ideal for hadanite?

[gentle sail]

What are the basic of ROC mining?

• Get a ship capable of carrying ROC
• Rent a ROC
• Get a cargo box to stuff mineables into?

What's the fastest way of selling things I mine, do I really have to transfer from ROC -> backpack -> cargo box -> freight ramp -> unload into local storage -> sell at admin?

[crude thunder]

Starter ship? (Nomad) run a few cargo missions, get 100k, buy ROC outright, and still have room in the back for a couple 1/2 SCU boxes for a few $k

[gentle sail]

My friend has an Andromeda, so we will use that

Can it fit two rocs and some container?

[polar fable]

I think it should, but dont quote me on that xD

[hazy blaze]

Are we still able to swap the bags on the prospector to the ones on the mole? does it still give the scu increase?

[coarse ember]

yeah you can still swap em, still gotta find a mole tho or find someone willing to give you their bags

[hazy blaze]

Lucky for me, I got both.

[jovial matrix]

andro can definitely fit 2 rocs

[spare cloud]

Pretty much

If you're quick enough to open both the ROC and box inventory at once, you can skip backpack step

[spare cloud]

Still works yeah

[covert sun]

Am I missing any way to fit one more 8 SCU cargo box on the freelancer max? (please)

[spare cloud]

Check the pins, see how works the FL max grid

[covert sun]

Yeah there's no more room on the grid, and I think I fit as much as I could off grid too

Didn't realize this thing can't even fit 100 SCU in 8 SCU boxes

Gonna have to make two trips for one lousy box... oh well

[spare cloud]

Yeah, you can't use the third layer so you're losing a lot of space

And the middle section is unusable

[covert sun]

Definitely not worth the rental cost then lol

[spare cloud]

Taurus 👌

[covert sun]

Oh I can rent the taurus too!

Let me just do that then haha

More than double the cost but I guess worth it for some rep grind

[snow cosmos]

I just took 98 SCU of Stims up to Baijani Point for a contract, loaded them into my warehouse after two trips, and then went to the contract and clicked submit. It moved the contract to history, set it completed, no cash was paid, the stims are still in my warehouse, and the bullet points for completed contract are red. What the literal fuck.

What am I supposed to do to complete these missions correctly?

[covert sun]

The contracts have been working for me lately, but one thing I noticed really messing things up is if I stack multiple contracts all requiring the same type of cargo (for example, 2+ contracts with stims)

[snow cosmos]

Yeah, that's what broke me last time. This was a single contract that took an hour. x.x

[covert sun]

Damn, sorry to hear. Yeah I think maybe I've just been getting lucky. A few days ago they were all broken for me too

In general the best advice I can give is try to find a relatively low population shard to play on, tends to be more stable

[snow cosmos]

Is there any use for this overfilled warehouse commodities now? I know I cannot sell them since they are not marked as mine.

[covert sun]

You mean the leftover boxes from contracts? I've just been dumping them in hangars that'll end up despawning

I don't think there's much else to do with them

[snow cosmos]

Do you think they could be sold if hauled out to Pyro? At this point, I don't want to waste another hour. x.x

[covert sun]

No idea to be honest

I doubt it though, don't think contract cargo can be sold by design

[scarlet thistle]

they broken for me now too

now even when I just want to start them I load the boxes to elevator try to pull them to the hangar it takes like 5m than elevator finaly comes up but boxes werent there, tryed again and now I am here with black screen xd

[scarlet thistle]

for 25% of the cost maybe ? or something like that

[snow cosmos]

Hmm. I just hauled another load down from Baijani P. to Area 18. Didn't it used ot give a popup when you sent the elevator down with the mission delivery?

It feels like something changed that broke these missions. Is it enough to have the cargo in your warehouse, then click to submit the mission?

[covert sun]

I still get the popup in the current patch. But it's just hit or miss if the contracts work or not. No idea what the reason could be, seems random in my experience

[covert sun]

Damn... not even the constellation taurus can deal with a 104 SCU hauling contract. Trying to do any medium contracts is pretty rough 😮

[spare cloud]

You can stack 4x 32 SCUs easily enough in the Taurus, if the contract forces you to use boxes that don't go on 3 height grids

4x32 + 3x24 should fit iirc

[covert sun]

It's just a bunch of 8 SCU boxes, I don't dare stick the mission boxes into larger 32 SCU ones

I tried but couldn't manage to stack 2x 8 SCU on top of each other

Just gonna go back to stacking small contracts instead

[scarlet thistle]

does that work for you ?

for me it just ignores the boxes I deliver for half of the contracts...

[covert sun]

Apparently it's not working anymore, it did earlier today

[scarlet thistle]

so it might work or might not

also earlier today I coud not even pull the boxes from the elevator to my ship xd

[covert sun]

Yeah it seems pretty random if it works tbh

[scarlet thistle]

also I ques you did them in stanton not pyro right ?

[covert sun]

Yeah all stanton for me until pyro is more stable

[scarlet thistle]

soo dont know if you can better than traine misions in pyro

[covert sun]

So... is this how you do it and is it normal for them to shake around like crazy?

[spare cloud]

It takes practice and a fair bit of luck for the boxes to stay in place

If it's giggling a bit, it should be nothing to worry about

If it's clipping all over the place, get it out

[covert sun]

Alright, I guess I'll try flying... carefully lol

I somehow made it but not worth the trouble I think

[ocean compass]

yeah that jiggling is normal going offgrid on the taurus. i wouldnt do it tho haha feels scary

[stable osprey]

Sooooo I just did some trading and sold construction material at ARC L1. It did not get me the 405k credits. Is that a bug?

[covert sun]

I think it is unfortunately

I had a similar bug but the other way, got lucky and one of the transactions didn't register when I was buying cargo

[stable osprey]

well then rip me. only have 9k now. I was so happy to upgrade my zeus cl to the taurus and fly it. then this happens...unlucky

[covert sun]

oof, sorry to hear

[stable osprey]

i mean now its a true zero to hero xD

[covert sun]

This is why I always start trading with no more than half of my credits, in case of bug

Trading right now in 4.0 is a huge risk

[stable osprey]

I didnt know that. I wasnt running into any issues, selling and buying wise, until now.

guess ill be doing some fps to credits xD

but i want to trade. its so chill xD

[covert sun]

Same lol. I did fps and hauling contracts to work up to the first trade. But probably at least 10-20% of contracts will fail, more if you're less lucky than I've been

[stable osprey]

NVM I'M BACK IN BUSINESS. I hopped servers and F1 when i got in. I have the credits. WHOO!!!

[covert sun]

Niiiice!

[stable osprey]

the game doesnt hate me...atm

[covert sun]

Good luck lol. Same here so I'm ending on a high note now

Got 800k, was gonna push for 1mil but gonna call it good for now

Before I lose half that

[stable osprey]

515k. Might just go to arccorp and try bunkers. last time i tried that, i black screen.

but i think the server lagged for the sec and thats why i wasnt seeing the credits

[coarse cape]

is mining this patch actually worth?

[daring raft]

Trying out salvage….got a vulture. Have the “scraper module” enabled pin both beams on the metal. This is where I fall apart. Do I fracture it? Is it like mining where I increase the beam strength? It looks like it’s trying to pull off material but doesn’t really do much. I tried watching videos but they aren’t super helpful for this part

[leaden monolith]

For the vulture you want to have Abrades as your scraper modules. When you have a ship or panel to scrape 'M' (default) to enter scraping mode. LMB fires the modules, RMB switches to the other two. Aim your beams onto the ship/panel and move it around slowly. Mid right on the HUD you should see the scu going into the hopper. 2/13 or whatever. As soon as you get to 13/13 stop scraping (LMB). Empty hopper and repeat or go back to sell.

Fracturing is not worth it in the Vulture just stick to scraping.

[mossy radish]

is there any reason someone should be salvaging in pyro?

[sage spire]

Anyone know any good trade routes in Stanton? Im using SC Trade Tools and only seeing ones in Pyro. Budget is 500k for 576 SCU.

[hidden garden]

I have noticed it doesn't update while in the commodity menu so you'd have to exit and go back in

[hidden garden]

You can avoid pyro as a filter

This should only give you Stanton routes

[ashen oyster]

To anyone who has ever had the ARGO RAFT get damaged or fully destroyed when unloading 1, 2 or 4 SCU sized boxes please head to the link below to contribute to the report. We need more people reporting the issue so it can get fixed.

Thanks

https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-148869

[hidden garden]

I have never heard of that one before. Sounds about star citizen though

[stable osprey]

I want to try salvaging again once I get enough credits to buy a vulture. However, I've seen videos about a stealth vulture. Now why stealth and I thought all stealth components were in contested zones now? Also I'm not sure what has changed with salvaging. Last time I did the loop was back in 3.21/3.22....i think.

[ashen oyster]

Ya basically you need to load the raft from the bottom up when using 1scu high containers (1, 2 and 4 scu boxes), this causes issues when unloading as the top boxes cant be removed as they are in there to "tight", so you remove the bottom box first. Now when you remove the bottom box the top boxes are no longer supported and some times they just fall to the ground harmlessly , other times they shoot off at high speed and usually take out anything in their path. sometimes the entire raft or other times the landing gear and engines.

[ashen oyster]

The stealth option is there so you lower your detection range in hopes that no one shows up and ruins your day, but if you salvage in the Arron halo your fine. I just pick random Lagrange points and burn for 100 km in any direction before i start my salvaging.

I do mostly panels and i can get about 39 SCU of RMC on a run in a vulture which sells for 409K.

[marble acorn]

Had a good day cargo hauling. Outside of a couple of issue with the ATLS, servers stayed and missions completed. Even loaded a freight elevator with 9 missions at once and they all completed and awarded.

[hidden garden]

I salvage by green glade station in Stanton, but stealth is to make it less likely you get noticed in more hostile areas

I'm going to stealth prospector when I can

[verbal grail]

is there a bug to auto loading in 4.0?
did it 2-3 times, everytime there is no cargo inside my ship

[spare cloud]

Yeah, it's unreliable this patch

[stable osprey]

Ah ok. Im going to look up some guides for salvaging as it's been awhile for me. But first i need to get those credits for the vulture.

Bit stealth isn't needed to salvage correct?

At least in Stanton

[hidden garden]

I have had 0 problems tbh

Except the menu where I select the location is always wrong

[stable osprey]

The joy I had on ny face when I noticed the Taurus has a tractor beam and found where it was. So much better than the Zeus Cl's tractor beam.

[leaden monolith]

No you don't need stealth to salvage in Stanton.

[hasty smelt]

What are some good ships to salvage for good s1 stealth components (for my talon)

[slate tiger]

anyone running delivery missions? just started the game. need some money to buy a larger ship with cargo hold

[crude thunder]

are you in 3.24 or the 4.0 preview? I believe the Delivery Missions are turned off in 4.0 currently But there are hauling missions, they can just be a pain for players in smaller starter ships as you have to move 7-10 scu for that first mission and you're looking at multiple trips for missions after that

[slate tiger]

im on 3.24. i got the aurora mr. whenever i carry a box in the ship it throws me out either to the top of the ship or under and had my ship explode too while moving.

if anyone is running deliveries and needs a hand I can join.

[crude thunder]

I did a few in 3.24 with a Mustang and they were glitchy. Some of the packages would glitch out and the best way to fix them was to sent a package down a freight elevator and bring it back up to make the package viable again.

[upbeat prawn]

what does hte Submit button do in hauling mssions?

[pearl juniper]

submits the mission with whatever cargo you have delivered. You get paid proportionally to how much you completed.

[upbeat prawn]

ah, should have done that yesterday

[pearl juniper]

useful if you loose one box somehow.

[upbeat prawn]

yea, or you mix match who wants 2 2s vs 1 4

and suddenly no one is happy

[hollow sedge]

considering this, been focusing on hull c trading and wrote a ton of bug reports. I am in the middle of one now, was wondering if anyone knows a work around for when the cargo decks is not delivering goods I just paid for. the cargo transferring timer is stuck on 00:00 and the audio to call the cargo decks is looping over and over. I was assigned the cargo deck without even calling the decks which I thought was weird. Trials been at stanton gateway - baijini, I can get one trade to work but if I come back to do another, I lose the money from the second trade and I never get the cargo. ship eventually gets docked and I am repositioned to the lobby,

[scarlet thistle]

you dont event need to do a mistake sometimes they just dont accept what they ordered for me xd

I delivered 1 SCU 2 SCU and 4 SCU box that they wanted from whrere they wanted it

and ewen tho it was my only mision they took just 3SCU and the 4SCU box went to my warehouse without them mision akcepting it

[upbeat prawn]

x.x

[harsh shoal]

Is there an ideal place to put my roc when trying to transfer it to my ship on hanger? 2x in a row, ive moved the roc out of the hanger bay, called the cuttlass, and the roc despawns :(

[jovial matrix]

are you moving it all the way off of the hangar pad?

[harsh shoal]

yea i had, tried it the 3rd time in a row and it finally worked again :D

1st time this has happened to me

[jovial matrix]

yeah thats weird, glad it finally worked though :)

[hollow sedge]

had experienced this too. go do this at a planet or moon base, one with a pad.

@harsh shoal

soonTM, cig may develop vehicle spawning in hangars till then its kinda wonky since they turned up the cleanup mechanic

[novel forge]

anyone got a reclaimer and wanna salvage? i wanna buy one but wanna check out out before hand

[hollow sedge]

Buy one in game for sure I hope you mean

[novel forge]

yeah you cant buy them on the pledge store atm

but 31mil is an unreal ammount of money to try and make atm

[hollow sedge]

I lost mine since the wipe. Else I'd accomidate your request.

keep asking, ask in global too when it works

can also join a mining org,

[novel forge]

all good

[covert sun]

Hey, there's no known fix/workaround for when hauling contract boxes don't register towards the mission when delivered right?

[daring cape]

bro i paid my fines and everything and still cant get any contracts and my friends cant share any contracts with me aswell wtf am i ment to do to get contracts?

[harsh shoal]

Thanks for the tip! Will remember that

[leaden reef]

Go to pyro and do a mission

[mossy radish]

ive been thing with all of the wrecks around ruin station, would cm salvaging be profitable and worth while? i would still have to deal with threats and the unloading/offloading of boxes

[hidden garden]

trying to do ruin station mining, but everytime I try it someone attacks me when I leave the station

😦

[ocean compass]

foxy has a video on how to clear it, try it

cpt foxy on youtube

basically get to CS 3, go to kareah clear to CS 1, then pay it off

if that still dont work, drop a ticket for them to fix your acc

[daring cape]

ive tried that, i also made a ticket

[tall karma]

So if I failed an auto-unload from my ship at a station, and now every time I attempt to sell cargo directly from station inventory it says "Waiting for Pending Result". Does that mean this station is perma busted, or just this server?

[ocean compass]

does the other sales run still go thru? yes just ignore

i have a fixed message on my screen because i sold frmo my c2 but i forgot to store the ship, it keeps saying pending delivery to freight elevator

then i tried manual unloading, couldnt. my tractor beams cant move any of the boxes

i had to abandon a full load lost 1.2m

then im stuck with the pending delivery to freight elevator message since

but later trading still works.

[stable osprey]

kind of a weird question for hauling: does it matter what armor I wear when hauling/trading? Ive only been picking up from stations and currently wearing light armor so i can have a backpack.

[scarlet thistle]

Vehicles from cargo elevator maybe hmm ?

[scarlet thistle]

For misions propably no need for armor or atleast I dont use it

But if you transport some boxes you did buy I ques the armor and equip yoi take depends on how scared you are of pirates

[stable osprey]

Very scared lol even thou I'm in Stanton. Atm, I'm trusting no one. Although, the other players I've seen when leaving and arriving at stations are in cargo ships too. So probably doing what I'm doing.

[tall karma]

To answer my own question, switching servers fixed the issue.

[dapper mesa]

Anybody having issues with contract cargo not showing in cargo elevator?

[leaden monolith]

I always wear at least light armor, have a weapon, meds, ammo, multitool and/or maxlift and food and drink. I also leave the bathroom door open. You just never know when someone will attack you or sneak onto your ship.

[leaden monolith]

Try server hopping. In my experience it is server related but others may have different experiences.

[hoary copper]

best spot to gank cargohaulers/miners for money?

[humble merlin]

Popular sell points

[pallid talon]

Cringe

[hoary copper]

any recommendations?

[swift flint]

want to get a smaller sized cargo hauler with auec. How do the freelancers or the hull A do in the game? usable ships or not really?

[spare cloud]

Freelancers got 12 unusable SCUs with manual loading

Door to middle section is too small for cargo containers

[stable osprey]

That's what I'm doing expect for the bathroom door part. Might throw a heavy chest piece in the storage on the taurus in case I want to do some fps.

[harsh shoal]

I don't wanna say it won't happen - because it could, but out of my runs i've never been boarded yet. I do make sure to do my checks though.

Entering an elevator to your hanger? Look inside the elevator to make sure no one tried sneaking around/behind you

Leaving your ship? Close all ramps, elevators, hatches, etc...

Fighters seeming to hover above your takeoff? Just wait it out, or store your cargo and go somewhere else

I usually always bring a pistol and some meds + the essentials like food & liquid, just in case

[spare cloud]

You can stop checking the elevator to your hangar.
If you try to sneak on the elevator to someone's hangar that you're not in party with, you'll be teleported out before the doors even open to the hangar

The essential like food and liquid are two cruz lux bottles. All you need.

Stacking too empty bottles in the inventory makes them full again when you drag them out

[stable osprey]

I haven't had issues in Stanton. However, I also haven't tried to trade or haul in Pyro. I really only go to Pyro when I'm with a group as my piloting skills are subpar. Lol i can fly, I can't fly like fighter pilot lol.

[harsh shoal]

So you're telling me I shouldn't throw my empty bottles at mach 3 on the floor?

[hidden garden]

I'm a c1 spirit fan

Getting 3 32s in there is easy

[swift flint]

not buyable in game though, is it?

I'm thinking of getting and intrepid LTI package and then CCU'ing to a C1

[hidden garden]

3.1m auec at orison

[ionic elm]

You can sneak into player hangars in Pyro. Unsure if this is intended or if it's a bug.

[hidden garden]

I'd cry

[hidden garden]

I uh live off med beds

[swift flint]

huh, so erkul doesn't have correct data?

[spare cloud]

Good to know. I'd say this is intended but you never know with CIG

[spare cloud]

It does

[hidden garden]

I just looked up the c1 spirit went to star citizen tools and it has an acquisition area

Erkul is meh on mobile

[swift flint]

this part is incorrect. If I load up the C1 in the calculator, then it shows up

[spare cloud]

Every SC app is meh on mobile

[swift flint]

I guess I know what ship I'm grindin auec for

[hidden garden]

I use the websites ._.

For everything

[spare cloud]

App/websites, all meh on mobiles

[hidden garden]

The wiki isn't bad

@spare cloud do you too want to live off of IVs

[spare cloud]

IVs ?

[hidden garden]

Yeah the med bed

[spare cloud]

Ah nah Cruz ftw

Med beds get you to 99% hydration and nutrition, which I hate

I want that 100%

[wraith cairn]

Unless youre like me and Cruz knocks you out every time

[hidden garden]

I do a lot of carrack cargo so I just get in the bed during quantum

[spare cloud]

I drink during QT

[hidden garden]

I also use a c8r fairly often so I use that bed too

Like I'll land, get in the bed, then get out

After getting dropped out of my guardian I am scared to hop out of small ship seats without being stationary

[spare cloud]

Never without my two Cruz bottles

[hidden garden]

That carrack bed is my lifeline

[ionic elm]

Yeah I've had a few dash into my elevator before the doors closed and after I hit my button. As soon as your hangar opens it goes weapons free and they can incap you and steal your gear.

[hidden garden]

I always stand by the door until it closes then press the button

I will not get 🐀

[mild pumice]

damn

I really need to get a prospector for Pyro!

[junior stratus]

for the salvage nerds is this the highest rep i can get salvaging?

[sage spire]

is it possible to buy cargo at ruin station?

[dawn junco]

is catterpillar good for station to station hauling? cargo loading looks not that practical to me but dont know how tractor beams make it easier or not.

[pastel flame]

I'd recommend going to pyro

[pastel flame]

Not particularly. It doesn't hold 32's, and is a pain to load/unload in large amounts. If you are doing the rookie missions batched, it's okay.

[dawn junco]

ok thank you

[pastel flame]

The Taurus is my favourite for that job, if you like going bigger the Herc or Starlancer MAX is your next step 🙂

[limber compass]

ok... what is Stryorum and Ricite?

[leaden monolith]

New minerals in Pyro. I think you can refine them anywhere but from what I've read here definitely on Ruin station. I'm not a miner so that is all I know.

[hidden garden]

how does like the loading priority work with the freelancer max? like if I autoload it will it definently fill in that little room where it's hard to unload?

I only wonder because Im doing mining and dont want to unload the mining orders into that room

[distant osprey]

Um I would not choose that ship if your planning to manually unload everything

You can store it though and it'll show it to take from

[hidden garden]

isnt it a paint to auto unload a bunch of different kinds of ores?

[distant osprey]

Yes

But using ships like hull a or c1 are ideal

Single cargo areas

[rose prawn]

guys i have a question
I have a MOLE but I'd like to farm some hadanite.
Problem is, twice I tried and twice my mole exploded somehow
Am I doing something wrong or i just can't mine small bolders with a mole

[scarlet thistle]

hadanite is mined with ROC not MOLE

MOLE is for ores not gems

[rose prawn]

oooo got it man

thnks

[devout shell]

help,commodity shop says i cant sell my RMC, wrong box sizes??! what the hell?

[coarse ember]

gotta sell rmc at a tdd, one on orison is on cloudview platform, one in a18 in retail when you walk in from trams, lorville has it on cbd line and new babbage has it at the commons

i think some places in pyro take it to but i havent checked

[hollow sedge]

fyi, pulse bike has a nice radar that if above a cave will show you every rock nearby, with names, so janalite hunters . . . .

[stable osprey]

anyone have loaded and unloaded a max haul for the carrack solo?

[wraith cairn]

I watched a streamer unload a stolen carrack full of random stuff and some drugs. He hated it, the openings on the sides are somehow too tight and the boxes kept getting stuck constantly when trying to take em out 😄

[pastel flame]

It's rough, they have edges protruding, very jank

Have been doing cargo in the Starlancer all night, quite relaxing and nice.

[stable osprey]

Well that kinda helped me make my decision. It's a shame because I like the Carrack and pledged it. Named it Home in the Stars, but if its rough to do cargo/trading in, then I'll have to find another use for it. Looks like im sticking with the connie taurus.

thank you for the info

[cunning agate]

Duping.

[vestal ice]

Soooo Any way to Prevent Ai from Kamakazing into me? Every fight with AI I Have they Just Kill me by Crashing into me

[leaden reef]

Don't sit still

[ebon agate]

Is there an issue with the vulture salvage beam? Only one is mounting to my ship.
Ive tried everything from re equiping to despawning the ship. Does anyone have any suggestions?

[glass gate]

Whats the state of trading in 4.0 right now? Trying to buy a load of commodities but I can no longer select my ship as a destination. Do I have to choose station inventory, and if so, does that mean manual loading? 😳

Edit: Apparently you have to select your name as location and then your ship shows up. Which I guess is a bug 🐛

[cunning agate]

Whenever you feel like you're having a shitty day mining, Mack knows your pain. ^

[craggy tapir]

we really should be able to do anything with inert mats

[cunning agate]

Best thing is to load a Hull C with it and try and take it someplace in Pyro just to get pirated and troll tf out of them.

Meanwhile be naked and stoned on Maze in the pilot's seat.

[craggy tapir]

would be funny

as soon as he boards the hull c

[covert sun]

I've been trading with manual loading/unloading because I couldn't select my ship as a destination. Good to know about the workaround lol. But outside of that it's been working without issues for me. Just avoiding outposts as I had a lot of issues with cargo elevators there.

[craggy tapir]

you gotta backspace infront of him

[cunning agate]

If it's wrong to think about all the different possibilities with the Liberator, I don't wanna be right.

[craggy tapir]

you could put more ships inside the liberator tho

[devout shell]

sad i dont like the design of liberator.... cool ship it is, but ugly to me

[hollow sedge]

How much less profitable is Mining than salvage

[random pagoda]

Folks, have you been able to mine recently?

[random pagoda]

The Liberator is one of those ships I had in my crosshairs even before I started playing the game (a week before last Christmas).

I really want this ship! 🙂

[limber compass]

I'v lost my mole bags twice now... and read that someone got his connie reset to stock also. What is going on?

If you repair, it's reset to stock? This is so vague

[neat marlin]

I think now yes it resets to stock

[devout shell]

pls help a dump player.... ???

i tried to put some of those into a selfstorage 4scu box

but if i want to sell the self storage, then all the included RMC is priced with 0 credits....

so how can i get those sold?

with all my try and error i am running out of money... pls help

[wraith cairn]

What location are you trying to sell at and are you on 4.0 or 3.24?

Nvm I see its Seraphim

@devout shell iirc Seraphim Station doesnt buy RMC, I suggest googling SC Trade Tools to see where to sell things

[devout shell]

hm would be nice, to just say dont buy it... instead of cant buy because of box size...

well well thank you

so it can not be sold at all locations makes sens

i am on 4.0

for the future, i dont need to repack or unpack the RMC?! i can sell it like it is

[wraith cairn]

Uhh not sure how and why did you put the RMC in a self storage box, but youre supposed to just put the RMC boxes into the cargo elevator and send it down, then just sell from station inventory.

[devout shell]

i did after that did not work i tried with self storgae that did not work either so i cam here for help

[leaden monolith]

Apparently if you repair your ship is returned to stock. If you claim your ship is returned to you with upgrades just as always. I haven't personally done either yet so this is all third party information.

[limber compass]

well i lost my first bags thinking i didn't do the "take a module off, save, put module back on, save" thing.

Second time i was poking around locations in Pyro and got my ship destoryed

also before that swapped a mining module

repaired at some point

it could be anything

[leaden monolith]

It's a mess is what it is. 🙂

[coarse ember]

nah theres a bug rn where repair replaces any loadouts with stock and if you rip the stock stuff off and try to repair it supposedly disappears

[limber compass]

i don't feel like putting mole bags on a 3rd time

I baught the prospector in game

actually wouldn't mind if you would lose bags, just want update where ore bags don't clip through elevators 😄

right now, upgrading bags, either you good at glitching the bag through the floor, or you find a mole 😄

[tall karma]

Is there any trick to tractor beam connecting to cargo on the Caterpillar grid without being physically inside the ship?

[limpid sluice]

Far as I'm aware, no. The weird bug with tractors beams being blocked by the doorways even when open is a pain

Gotta board it and throw boxes out, which is a pain if it's in atmo and isn't your ship

[scarlet thistle]

what does optimal charge rate afect while mining ?

[gentle sail]

Is there some tool to assist combing through the Hauling jobs to string best routes?

[slate spruce]

Are you looking for an app or a buddy?

[slate spruce]

How fast does the green bar fill up (which can be quite important when using active modules).

[scarlet thistle]

so when I want to mine biger rocks it is better to just get laser power right

[slate spruce]

Yes, pretty much. Approximate max breakable rock size = 5 x Laser power x (1 - resistance)

[scarlet thistle]

and is this a visual bug ? or do I have no capacity ? xd

[slate spruce]

Bug, bags aren't properly initialized yet. Try leaving seat, switching modes, and sucking some rock, it should kick in.

[cunning agate]

NEVER REPAIR (For now)

[scarlet thistle]

also can you have more of the same pasive modules equip ?

[slate spruce]

Yes, absolutely, the effects stack

[tall linden]

So I wanted to take a break from hauling missions, and pivoted to commodity trading. Bought scrap to fill a Carrack and it never autoloaded and it's not showing up in inventory. Take it I'm out 650K?

[ashen oyster]

are you buying mole bags for the prospector or did you aquire them other ways?

[limber compass]

you loot a mole, till the update that makes bought bags spawn correctly in hanger elevators. You can try and glitch the bags out the elevator, but it's risky.

It's easy to swap bags on a prospector inside hangers now, the bags come off easily.

[ashen oyster]

ok ya i remember the mole bags on the elevator were risky, but now its a bit less risky?

[limber compass]

nah... bag falls, you might get it back if you lower the elevator, or you might get a corrupted elevator 😄

[ashen oyster]

guess ill have to get a buddy with a mole ot meet me in space. i see the salvage contracts for moles but i believe they are too close to the stations and cant remove items from them

[limber compass]

you can do salvage claims for bags, or seen bounty missions spawn moles also, i think

[ashen oyster]

maybe ill try a mole salvage one then, last salvage one i tried i was not able to remove parts from the ship

[limber compass]

But... legal salvage claims spawn inside armstice zones, you have to use a ship tractor to fetch them... or bump the ship outside the zone.

[ashen oyster]

ahh thats what it was then

[limber compass]

ofc you have to get in the ship and "unlock all ports"

etc etc..

Actually legal claims spawning inside armstice zones makes SRV very usefull, if you got a crew

Also the wrecks some times poofed out of view while trying to push it out so i can loot the boxes and modules...

looted m7a's from a corsair for my future connie

[ashen oyster]

ya its a bit of a pain they placed the them in the armstice zone

[glass gate]

Are cargo hauling contracts broken right now? Been trying to do them but i cant hail station cargo which is where it seems it wants me to pick up the items 🤔

[ashen oyster]

how far have you had to tow/push a ship t get it outside of the zone?

[limber compass]

And scary, i feel naked, in the view of everyone passing by while i salvage my claim

[limber compass]

like couple km at 10 m/s

i used Vulture tractor and sometime just bumped the ship

[ashen oyster]

thats what i was afraid of lol couple of km and 10m/s lol

[limber compass]

tried to tow with Zeus tractor also...

Yeah, that is why SRV sounds awesome

Also... got a illegal tow when tried Zeus tractor 😄

Illegal tow on my own salvage claim i paid 50k

[ashen oyster]

lol

[limber compass]

Many funny interactions

It's bad if you want to min/max, good for hillarious gameplay though

I try everything industry...

scanning caves, still haven't found janalite!!!!!

[brisk gorge]

Gotta load the cargo by hand from the freight elevator.

[glass gate]

Oh wow, that sounds tedious for larger loads 😰

[brisk gorge]

Yes.

[tall karma]

So very low inventory, but no sell button?

[pastel flame]

They may not buy 16's

[white dove]

So the station stopped loading the cargo and the blue box disappeared how do i fix this? just put 2.7 mil into this hull C load, can i check on terminal where the rest of my cargo is, like offload it from the deck somewhere?

[ornate halo]

No- its only if a slot is empty. If theres just damage, you're ok- Source, I repair every trip and my components havent reset

[cunning agate]

This is good. Thank you for the clarification.

I have enough ships with empty cooler slots that I adopted that rule.

[hollow sedge]

Are most rock in asteroid mining above 15k?

[icy imp]

Anyone know if there's still a No Questions Asked terminal at The Orphanage? I can't find a terminal there at all

[slate spruce]

Yes. Check the pinned messages for mining cheat sheets, the Mass Index indicates how big rocks can you find at different locations.

[hollow sedge]

thx

[icy imp]

I've just gone to a lot of trouble to manually fly to Paradise Cove because it wouldn't let me QT there and there's supposed to be a NQA terminal here but I can't find any terminal at all

So maybe someone can point me in the right direction? Are these terminals hidden behind a secret passageway?

[fresh warren]

What's the max range for a MOLE 2 with people? Found a 70k rock and not even sure 3 could handle that.

[brisk gorge]

Is there a way to track your buys and sells when it comes to commodities? Like seeing your wallet show how much you spent and how much you earned after selling?

[leaden reef]

Did you bring a sabir

[fresh warren]

Lmao I did and pulling out of my inventory killed me so I went to bed.

[coarse ember]

they yoinked most of the outpost drug selling/buying spots iirc theres a nqa terminal on cru l4? behind some lockers

you can still visit em but no buying or selling afaik

[distant osprey]

my mining laser wont scan rocks anymore, any fix?

[spare cloud]

It's a drug lab, you can't QT to these places like Jumptown.
There's no terminal there because there isn't a freight elevator in the first place.
They're entirely useless places now outside of the Jumptown event

[pastel flame]

Unfortunately it used to work, but as Zorgh said now it's just left to rot

[frosty ferry]

looking for some advice on first ship (to rent) that I can dock a ROC into

[spare cloud]

Nomad for the smallest and cheapest

Else Cutlass Black, or Spirit C1 if you wanna do something else too

Or Taurus

[pastel flame]

Nomad amazing for it

Such a great lil tractor beam

[frosty ferry]

ill have a look at the nomad thanks

[pastel flame]

Very cheap rental too!

[nimble urchin]

Hey quick question about the UEX site. Does the buy column is what the location sells and the sell column is what I should bring them right?

[spare cloud]

Correct. Buy is what you can buy there, and same for sell.

[ember juniper]

is rep with redwind linehaul working currently? im member but im not getting anything above trainee missions

[deep bison]

is this looking at one of the farms or trade outposts in pyro?

Edit: Yep, That's Terra Mills.

[scarlet thistle]

It did show biger rep contracty for me yesterday

[ember juniper]

pyro or stanton?

[scarlet thistle]

Pyro and it was junior level

[ember juniper]

maybe it just doesnt offer junior and member at ruin station then?

idk

but im not getting anything but trainee

[scarlet thistle]

adn I am on starlight service station now if that woud help something

but ye I was stuck with traine contracts too before

[ember juniper]

did u do anything to fix it or was this in a prior patch

[scarlet thistle]

did not do anything special

just one day loged in and it was there

[ember juniper]

fair

[scarlet thistle]

did nto ewen see any rookie contracts xd

[ember juniper]

yea me neither

only trainee

is junior above member?

idr

[ember juniper]

nice..

sad

😂

[scarlet thistle]

I did not do that many contracts

cause buged elevators and cargo

lot of the tiems they did accept like half of the cargo and other half went to my inventory instead

[ember juniper]

havent had issues with that so far luckily

[scarlet thistle]

if you want to know what they offfer

[ember juniper]

and i just put entire filled up medium elevators down there

[ember juniper]

thats not too bad, chaining small ones is a little better id wager

but

wanna put my fuggen caterpillar to use

😂

[scarlet thistle]

problem with the small cargo ones

[swift flint]

do S1 tractor beams still do 32 SCU boxes? or only 16?

[scarlet thistle]

is they are anoing need to go to 3 planets ewry time :d

[swift flint]

or are they still considered S2 tractor beams?

[scarlet thistle]

btw does someone know how to use active mining modules ?

[craggy tapir]

i heard people do risky salvage for the drugs

how does that work?

[slate spruce]

Stack smaller contracts and put the cargo boxes for each destination into its own module. Speeds things up.

[swift flint]

all from baijini to A18 in one go. We'll see if the cargo spawns

looks like it did spawn

[swift flint]

250k with one haul, nice

just sucks that most of the boxes are 1 SCU 😄

[mighty orchid]

yeah, this low tier stuff if mostly 1 SCU

but if you got efficient with loading you can do it pretty fast

and unloading is much easier tbf

[swift flint]

how can you get more efficient? took me half an hour to do these 5 contracts 😄

that was over 50 scu in cargo

[mighty orchid]

park ship real close so you stay in cargo bay and take boxes out of elevator
less running - faster loading

[swift flint]

oh, I was doing that already

[mighty orchid]

know your ship grid/offgrid capabilities and order of loading

[swift flint]

C1 is pretty straightforward

[random pagoda]

Folks, please, is there a way to take the ore containers from a Prospector or Mole?

...I mean: does it work in 4.0?

[random pagoda]

Use the MaxLift (for the longer range) tractor beam and don't walk, just move your cargo.

[swift flint]

yeah, that's what I'm doing already

[random pagoda]

If you have different places you are hauling to, you can park your ship away from the elevator and set up staging areas, separating what goes to each of the destinations. That saves you time in handling the boxes.

Other than that, it's a chore, really. 😄 You will get more efficient if you put more people into the operation. 😉

[swift flint]

I'll have to try different locations to see if there maybe are more direct small routes instead of extra small

[coarse ember]

it should work, so far i havent heard of any issues aside from calling up ore bags from elevator

[swift flint]

That pressurised ice contract for 17 SCU is super nice

just 4x4 SCU and 1x1 SCU box

[silver creek]

whats the best mining ship rn

[mighty orchid]

we have only 2 at all

[silver creek]

ik

[mighty orchid]

one solo, one crewed

[silver creek]

idk names

so or which is which

ik mole

[mighty orchid]

Prospector solo, MOLE crewed

[random pagoda]

Prospector: Solo
Mole: Crewed

[silver creek]

mole better with crew?

or 2 pro

better

[mighty orchid]

with crew I would say MOLE is better, if it is not bugged or something

[random pagoda]

It can hold more cargo and larger mining lasers. I would say it's better, but only if you have a crew.

[vestal ravine]

In Pyro there is a salvage mission that costs 200K but it can be loaded with Vice crates and lots of ships to salvage. But in Stanton its the higher level BH contracts and maybe Vaughn also around Crusader.

[silver creek]

i see price diff?

[random pagoda]

In-game or pledge store?

[silver creek]

AUEC

oops

[random pagoda]

In-game a prospector is about 2.3M and a Mole would be about 5M.

That is a guess...

[silver creek]

ight

[swift flint]

prospector is 2.9 mil
mole is 8.9 mil

[random pagoda]

Mole: 8.9M
Prospector: 2.9M

I've been ninja'ed twice! 😄

[dense trail]

does cargo hauling have auto load or do i have to hand load all 27 of these crates

[leaden monolith]

no autoload for hauling contracts

[rose prawn]

my ROC torret seems like it is not moving with my mouse. is it normal, a bug, or a setting i must change?

[sterile current]

Hey guys

I’m bat_in_space

[summer escarp]

Does anyone else find that the point and click tractor on the ATLAS loader is quite buggy? I’m trying to use it on my c1 spirit and it will not always let me select far away spaces, sometimes when I grab the box it isn’t in point and click mode and I have to lift and drop the box to activate it, etc. anyone got any tips?

[quiet atlas]

what makes more money Per Hr Prospector or ROC

[random pagoda]

I made a test and, when you remove an ore bag from a Prospector, it comes out empty, even if it is full of ore.

Please, can anyone confirm this?

[spare cloud]

What's the test you made if you don't mind giving more details ?

[random pagoda]

I went on for mining and filled up my Prospector's ore bags (did not care much for the ore I mined... mostly taranite and aluminium, I guess).
Then, I docked at the station, stored the Prospector with its full cargo and checked whether or not the refinery would register it as having ore. It did. Cancelled the refining process so no ore lost.
After that, I returned to my hangar, retrieved the Prospector (I only have one leased, so no chance of having taken the wrong ship) and removed its ore bags. I noticed their weight was 200Kg, the same as that of an empty one.

After that, I stored the Prospector again, retrieved a Hull-A I leased, and stored the ore bags in the Hull-A.
I then stored the Hull-A and checked whether or not the refinery would register it as a source of ore... it did not. 😦

Summary: mine -> check in refinery -> transfer ore -> check in refinery

[mighty orchid]

thats a thing, you can not set refinery order from anything but mining ship

[spare cloud]

That

[random pagoda]

Oh... that is sad.

[mighty orchid]

cargo ship as raw material transfer method is not functional yet

[spare cloud]

Making refinery orders from mining bags directly, whether they're in a cargo ship or on a mining ship isn't implemented yet

[random pagoda]

Again: that is sad. 😦

Thank you Zorgh and ScrEagle!

[spare cloud]

Afaik it's planned and been talked about not so long ago

[mighty orchid]

yeah

[random pagoda]

It is going to change the game when it comes... especially if ore bags and freight elevators atart talking again. 😄

[mighty orchid]

both Prospector and Mole even supposed to have spare bags

[spare cloud]

That

again

It's mostly going to be a game changer when MOLE and Prosp finally get their sets of bags

MOLE is supposed to have 3x8 bags, and Prosp 4x4

[mighty orchid]

most likely both this events gonna happen at the same time

[random pagoda]

Well, they do have them and you can change them...

[spare cloud]

And when they do, mining will be broken like everything else

[random pagoda]

...you can not do anything with them, but you can change them 😄

[quiet atlas]

it will make pirating a mining ship fun u can just take the bags and cash in currently u cant

[spare cloud]

Right now you only got one set of bags. 4 for prosp, 8 for MOLE.
They're supposed to have multiple sets, because bags are like super flat and unfold as they get filled, once you filled a bag, you unsnap it, and there's an other one in already ready to be used.

[random pagoda]

Oh! That is somehting!

So, is it correct to say that mining is not actually implemented yet? It seems to me that the mining experience in the game will be radically different that what it is today.

[mighty orchid]

it is implemented and pretty developed

just not advanced into final state

[random pagoda]

Well, that is a way to say it...

[mighty orchid]

essentially the only things missing - raw ore transfer and ship refinery

both of which are not exactly mining

[random pagoda]

Yes, but those two things make the mining experience so much different than what it is today that I don't see them as the same system.
It is as if you deliver a car without the seats. It's a car, but the experience is not what you get when seats are there. 🙂

[mighty orchid]

more like a car without fuel

[random pagoda]

Or that! 🙂

...under a productivity point-of-view. 🙂

Well... everything I tried so far is broken one way or another.
Can't make hauling missions effectively because bugs won't let me.
Can't mine super effectively because I have to "come and go" to a refinery (no "base" in mining ground).
Can't trade effectively because it gives too little profit, unless I go to the most usual stations... where bugs won't let me because of too many people in the same shard. 😦
Guess I'll just mine the way it is today. 🙂

[modern agate]

what's the fastest way to load/unload like 300 1scu boxes

[mighty orchid]

no real tricks, just box by box

park as close as you can to minimize movement

[raw shell]

Is there a tried and true way to get Argo bags and install them on a prospector?

[slim patio]

Suggestions for a cargo ship that is the next step up from a Cutlass Black?

[random pagoda]

MISC Hull-A. 64 SCU, super easy to load/unload, fits in a small hangar and you can lease it to see if you like it. 😉

...but zero (and I mean ZERO) fighting capacity.

[humble merlin]

Use an ATLS, park your ship close to freight elevator

[slate spruce]

Constellation Taurus. More cargo space, better guns, more fuel, still a medium hangar

[sonic fiber]

Dont

[sonic fiber]

Well that was interesting. Warping from one point to another my ship just spontaneously exploded

Luckily I had already offloaded my cargo

And I discovered loading boxes on an aurora sucks

[jovial matrix]

indeed it does

[sonic fiber]

Lol the latest ptu patch removes the rear clamp on the aurora

[feral steeple]

Anyone if they fixed Ramps on m2/c2

[hollow sedge]

no they did not

[hollow sedge]

.

[feral steeple]

Of course not

[slate spruce]

The patch notes say they did in 4.0.1

[nimble urchin]

How does one remove the components off a direlect? I found a broken cutty and I want the guns and missiles that are attached to it

[spare cloud]

Get in the pilot seat and hit RAlt + K

[nimble urchin]

Bro it still flies and it’s QT charged. So I just jumped away.

This should not be flying

[jovial matrix]

looks like someone salvaged it lol

[nimble urchin]

I did. I was trying to get it to unlock the gun ports but it’s QT was charged up and it jumped

Tho how do you know the gun ports unlock?

[fresh warren]

I just want to be able to store and pull MOLE bags from freight :c

It's so close to having a better loop...

[brisk gorge]

Does cargo left out in your freight elevator now disappear? I came back to pick up some more of my commodities and it was all gone.

[scarlet thistle]

is there any way to get prospector a biger storage ?

[gentle sail]

Any advices how to efficiently use Taurus' tractor beam for freight missions? Seems like a chore with how long the ship is and how far the cargo bay is.

[jovial matrix]

yes, you can buy MOLE bags and put them on the prospector with a tractorbeam, but its kinda janky

[fathom ledge]

anyone effectively used a MPUV-1T for cargo loading?

[scarlet thistle]

I cant even unequip items I have on the prospector, and when k try to pull bags oit with elewator they fall throught the grou when I try to grab them

[jovial matrix]

yeah thats the janky part

from what ive heard, you need to put a layer of boxes on the freight elevator first, and then putthe mole bags on top of the boxes

[slim patio]

How lucrative is scrapping with a vulture?

[jovial matrix]

you get about 350k if you completely fill the cargo hold and the buffer with RMC, so pretty profitable considering how easy it is

[torn sphinx]

Is it possible for non-mining ships to scan rocks for size, contents, etc.?

[jovial matrix]

Im like 95% sure they can

[torn sphinx]

I could only find one rock to test, so I don't know if it's not possible or the rock was broken. I'll go out and search again later.

It would be nice if Data got some development time, so exploration ships could usefully scout for miners and sell coordinates.

[small spade]

its possible to scan rocks with non mining ships to see thier content

[pastel flame]

Yep!

Get close, go into scan mode, scan and look at your MFD

[blazing cedar]

You probably left it in a non-persistent hangar

You can only do that safely in your hangar at your primary residence

Other hangars are eventually reassigned to other users and cleared out

[paper cedar]

I recently found this very useful to get rid of orphaned contract cargo boxes...useful to know about

I made decent credits recently doing hauling in a rented hull a, got me a cutlass in game after 4 game sessions. Are there a lot bigger earning contracts possible with bigger ships past junior rep? Just wondering if its worth putting effort into progressing up the reps

[hasty lintel]

Any ideas why I cant sell? I'm at New Babbage

[hidden garden]

Arw you supposed to be able to keep mole bags after you claim your prospector?

I did the swap and changed the bags out saving them by taking off a gun, saving, equipping the gun again, and saving. I went somewhere else and claimed my prospector but lost the bags

[sonic fiber]

Selling at tdd or admin?

Cm has to be sold at admin iirc. Or whatever it's called on planets. Planetary services

[hasty lintel]

Thats at admin

[sonic fiber]

Hmm, the inventory bug maybe? Try selecting other lines in the drop down

On new babbage though make sure you're at planetary services

[spare cloud]

Should be shown on pilot HUD in red letters. It doesn't show for all ships, bugged. If tractor beaming doesn't work, just get in pilot seat and hit Right Alt + K once, no more, ports should be unlocked.

[spare cloud]

Looks like the price is bugged, change server region or try taking the cargo to somewhere else

[raw shell]

that's the method I've always heard to do it. How did you get your bags?

[spare cloud]

MOLE salvaging contracts exists afaik but not common.
Rent one, or ask someone to land you theirs.
Buying bags directly from a refinery and on freight elevator will most likely get you to lose 9/10th of the bags

[raw shell]

Thank you!

[brisk gorge]

Is there a way to tell the difference?

[blazing cedar]

Yes, the location

If it's at your primary residence, it's persistent

If it's not, it's not

[brisk gorge]

That was it then. Thank you

[mild pumice]

Anyone tested Hull C hauls in 4.0 preview? Or do I gotta be the guinea pig?

gonna give it a go and report back...

[mighty orchid]

3400 SCU
that gonna be more that 100x 32 SCU crates

[modern agate]

is there an updated version of that mining chart with ore prices and locations

actually, is ore rarity even still location based

[modern agate]

how do you mission load a hull c? just call the station and they give you a holobox?

[mild pumice]

yeah you request cargo ATC and load in the box

and offload the same at the other end

[spare cloud]

Good thing they're auto loaded

[mild pumice]

It's loading 🙂

[cunning agate]

The beauty of those large cargo ships.

I’d love an enclosed, protected space at the stations for the cargo deck where the magic could happen with depicted container handling. Would be very cool.

[spare cloud]

I can't wait for the Hull C to work reliably, I really want to use one for hauling contracts

[scarlet thistle]

loading it solo ? .d

[spare cloud]

It's auto loaded

You just need to wait a bit

[scarlet thistle]

it autoloads ewn the contracts ?

[mild pumice]

the big ones yeah

[spare cloud]

Yes, Hull C cannot be loaded any other way, there's nowhere to pick the cargo at stations

[mild pumice]

still going

[scarlet thistle]

so it woud autoload it ewen if you took more smal contracts with hull C ?

[spare cloud]

No

It only works with H-C dedicated contracts

[mild pumice]

well I hope I got it all - it said it was complete then offered me another loading area, will find out at the other end

[modern agate]

are the pyro refineries worth it or should I haul to cru-l1 like usual?

[mild pumice]

if the station also buys the materials it could be worth it

saves hauling it elsewhere after refining

chances of getting shot down 50/50 tho!

[mighty orchid]

*yet

they talked about this during CItizenCon

[mild pumice]

yeah those exterior loading areas at Nyx looked cool

[spare cloud]

The same kind of "yet" as base building

[mighty orchid]

[spare cloud]

Loved Nyx, can't wait to go 1400m/s through the hole

[mild pumice]

I may well have caused that lol

happened as soon as I stopped in the box

there's an IC for it - looks like avoid Hull C Cargo for now: https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-129209

have contributed so maybe that helps lol

server still han't come back so I must have trashed it good!

[fathom ledge]

well you'll be waiting eternally since we'll likely have quantum boost and gotten rid of NAV by the time we see Nyx lol

[spare cloud]

Nyx 4.3, trust

[mild pumice]

woooooot after storing and retrieving my ship again it actually worked 😄

I dunno if I can take the stress again tho LOL

being a bulk delivery pilot is hard work

[fathom ledge]

wow thats actually really impressive

was that with manual loading?

well i guess manual loading isn't in for hull c yet right?

since we dont have the external elevators

[mild pumice]

no the transfer worked after storing my ship and taking it out again, it was failing after the server recovery

glad I kept at it, 700k will help towards my prospector (have 3.2mil now)

[fathom ledge]

I wonder what the rep hit would be for failing to deliver 3500 SCU of food

like... that's a famine lol

[mild pumice]

it was saying complete at 23scu and trying to impound me LOL, I managed to get away just in time

Hull C is damn slow when it has 3500scu on board!

[peak snow]

How's salvaging in Pyro?

[mild pumice]

Good

[brisk gorge]

Have yall had issues with auto loading commodities eating your cargo and not actually loading or selling commodities and not actually getting paid? I lost 700k to it last night and was wondering if it was a known bug with auto loading or if i was just very unlucky?

[tall linden]

It happened to me 3 days ago when I bought enough scrap to fill a Carrack and it never autoloaded, and not in my inventory. Lost out on 650K

[coarse ember]

its a 50/50 if it works kinda bug but it is known one, had it happen to me once with reclaimer and just ended up paying out of pocket for crew

[raw shell]

trying to outfit a prospector. Can't you buy FR-66 shields any more?

not showing up in cstone item finder

[mighty orchid]

no, you cant, and you should not

you either use competition or stealth class

depending what you want to achieve

[raw shell]

wow none of my prior build items are available any more. wtf

Atlas drive. that's it. yeesh

[livid briar]

okay - how do you avoid losing your custom modules on ships?

Bought 420k worth of lasers and modules for Mole and lost them after my first ship (no, not during the mining mission) ... I DID NOT repair my ship... Mined, stored, started refinery job, took it back out and did a second, put it away, and did second job.... third trip out I noticed all modules are gone (laser heads remained)

[scarlet thistle]

didnt the rock blow up to your face or something ?

or they did not apear after claiming the ship again

[livid briar]

No, I am aware you can lose all of your modules from a near explosion

unless my squad didnt tell me

I thought there was a known bug about losing your aftermarket stuff - or is that just repairs?

[scarlet thistle]

cause when I was trying mining with prospector the first thing that got damaged ewry time were the modules

[pastel flame]

They can be fragile

[scarlet thistle]

but I noticed it when I coud not mine the next rock xd not when I did actualy lose them

[pearl juniper]

Not a solution to your problem, but fyi you don't have to store the ship to start a refinery job. You don't even need to be in a hangar, you can do it from a pad to save time.

[proper furnace]

anyone available to help me crack this puppy in 4.0 Preview?

voice channel created.

[fossil atlas]

is it better to salvage ships or panels with a reclaimer crew?

[proper furnace]

panels

[fossil atlas]

thank you

[hollow sedge]

Same happened to me I just needed to claim and it fixed itself

[proper furnace]

waiting for someone to help me crack this rock

[fossil atlas]

can you buy abrades at orison?

[proper furnace]

yes, 1250 aUEC

[humble merlin]

Yeah

In Cousin Crows

[fossil atlas]

thank you again

[limber star]

so how many hand mined gems can fit in a 1 scu box if you can tell me that would be great

[humble merlin]

1000

[limber star]

thank you thats what i thought but wasnt sure

[humble merlin]

Yep, each gem is 1k µSCU and 1 SCU is 1,000,000µSCU