industrial-professions

[river helm]

I might give it a shot to see how that goes

[leaden monolith]

good luck

[river helm]

tyty

[knotty dove]

if i find someone elses cargo on freight elevator is it considered stolen if i take it?

[spare cloud]

Not IME

[knotty dove]

IME?

[halcyon plaza]

can the Hull A load from cargo decks like the Hull C?

[spare cloud]

In my experience

[spare cloud]

Nope, hangars and freight elevator like the rest

[vocal oracle]

Is mining generally the same as it was in 3.22? I haven’t mined in a while.

[coarse ember]

aside from some new mineables it seems mining wasnt really touched since then

[hidden garden]

If the carrack could lower it's pods then it would be a pretty good cargo ship

[vocal oracle]

Awesome thanks.

[spare cloud]

At least it can open them now

And you can walk freely inside the pods thanks to the tiny elevator in each part, so you can park the ship in front of your freight elevator, and get the boxes from inside the ship

[hidden garden]

I'm pretty sure you need 2 people to fully load the thing

[coarse ember]

genuinely glad not everyone knows they can be opened yet, snagged 16scu weevil eggs from someones bounty they left

[hidden garden]

Pretty sure the top corner 16s are impossible without someone picking it up while the bottom is loaded

[distant osprey]

Sorta kinda, go into the box and cut engines, it won't show a loading progress bar you just have to wait untill the box dissappears. Then you'll see cargo popping into existence . Worked for loading and unloading for me

[halcyon plaza]

ok will try for 10th time 😄

[distant osprey]

Yeah only other thing I can really say is to make sure your attempting from either a main station or a langrine point

Gateway stations are the most finicky

[vestal ravine]

I saw a player loading the Carrack landing gear up. Seemed much easier.

[storm crescent]

Which is better at money per SCU, Mining or salvage?

[warped robin]

how do i get commodities when trying to do a trade route

[halcyon plaza]

still unable to load my Hull C unfortunately, i just get this when i stop in the cargo loading box and i hear the "calling ATC" sound in a loop.

[halcyon plaza]

even tried with two different Hull Cs 😦 looks like those 4M may be gone

[marble acorn]

That layout is wrong. The first module there is a ship piece that is in the way to keep you from loading four 8 scu boxes like that. The second module you can. Even then it’s extremely difficult to get the top row completely full even in the second module. I didnt bother testing the third module.

[spare cloud]

It may be difficult to fit, but I'm pretty sure the layout is correct

[hidden garden]

It seems to require two people since it doesn't lower.

[mossy radish]

Is there an actual use for the rifle salvage tool?

Like is there a good reason to take it with me?

[spare cloud]

No

For now it's only reasonable use is to make small hull patches when you're damaged

[marble acorn]

In the first module there is a ship lip in the way.

[spare cloud]

But it's just a thousand times easier to land at the closest outpost and repair there

[candid bay]

Anyone testing autoloading today?

Does it still destroy your ship?

[zenith ocean]

Where is the best place for roc mining in pyro?

[vestal ravine]

Orison not accepting my CM. Should I relog?

[leaden monolith]

Are you at the TDD or Admin? Can only sell it at Admin. If you are at Admin then yes probably relog.

[vestal ravine]

Yes Admin...I got back into the game and that CM sold okay at the TDD terminal in Orison.

[dense knoll]

is hauling more profitable in stanton or pyro?

[distant osprey]

Depends legal or illegal. Also what your using large haulers in Stanton are still crazy profitable

[dense knoll]

ive only got a cutty black but i plan on working my way up to a big hauler

[distant osprey]

Well cutty black you could make more in Pyro if your doing illegal freight

Mission wise I mean you'd be making the same

[tiny lake]

any workarounds to the mole's lasers not responding? I lose the one right behind the pilot sometimes.

[distant osprey]

If you could chain like 3, 12ish scu junior 3 stop hauling contracts together in stantion that's about 180k a trip

[dense knoll]

do you mind pointing me in the right direction on where i can find these illegal commodities. i took a long break and am new to this

[distant osprey]

Not a pyro guy unfortunately sorry, I know you can transport things illegally through the jump gate to Pyro for a lot of money

[tranquil gust]

first time salvaging. Is it normal for the map marker for the salvagable vehicle to vanish when you get close?

I searched all around the marker and found another arrow which i salvaged but the contract is still showing as if i havent found it

[vale pumice]

what to do when i have [Not eligible] for hauling mission as reputation

[near swallow]

Wait for your rep to reset to neutral.

Just did 2 medium cargo jobs, but they did not register as being completed, and I made the mistake of submitting one, which tanked my reputation. Next time, I should just log off instead, that doesn't screw up your rep.

[knotty dove]

Question for experts: i tried selling found cargo at outpost that buys commodity but freight elevator marked it as stolen so i took it to scrapyard, while freigt elevator accepted cargo and stored it i cannot sell it due to unsupported cargo size so question is where can i sell stolen fresh food in 8SCU boxes?

[mystic sentinel]

if you are in pyro Ruin Station, if you are in stanton Grim HEX

[knotty dove]

thanks

[limber compass]

Has anyone survayed best mining spots for ships?

[limber compass]

Ok... so... just realized you can spawn reset to speed up one way trade routes...

feels cheesy as hell

[spare cloud]

I guess that works, if your ship doesn't take 10+ min to claim

[limber compass]

You can stack claim and auto load

and i don't think they "stack" they just count down in parallel

5 min auto load... 10 min claim

kinda mind blowing... you spend more than 10 to backtrack the route... specially if you have glitches

and you still have to auto load

Was about to buy prospector, but decided to slow sneak out of elevator while ducking and fell through the floor

Which reset me and now i'm going back but doing a cargo run making extra XD

Wish we have more punishing insurance system soon 😄

spawn abuse feels disgusting

Because no point in looking for looping trade routes, if you can just spawn reset a one way route

Can't wait for future updates

It's allready really nice now

I'll just keep playing for maximum immersion

[hidden garden]

Well with larger ships a looping route may be faster than claim

Like a carrack is 48 minute claim or 16 minutes expedited, but that cuts into profits

[limber compass]

true... i'm only using a Zeus CL

[hidden garden]

Yeah that's an 11 minute claim or 3 minute expedite

[limber compass]

Also props for understanding i'm talking about buying low selling hihg, not hauling missions

[hidden garden]

A spirit c1 may do better than a zeus CL for cargo imo

You can put 3 32s on a spirit pretty fast over loading all the different sizes for the zeus to be maxed out

[limber compass]

I mainly run Diamond from Mic-L2... auto load 5 min, auto unload 5 min, potential profit 180k, low end 100k

i just watch youtube or browse internet while i wait

auto load also is interesting, it is around 5min no matter how much you load

so loading little cargo makes no sense

[hidden garden]

Ah autoload does change it since it's faster than maxing out a zeus with all the different sizes by hand

[limber compass]

Yes... i'm not dum bro 😄

[hidden garden]

Well the spirit you can fit more by hand loading than grid loading because you can fit an extra 32 down the middle

[limber compass]

I'v baught a Vulture and now a Prospector partly trading while i explore

feels nice to earn 50-150k just by warping

no labour needed, auto load, just pay 6k for the service

Ah true... C1 has that free space in the middle

But why work 😄

Although i'm thinking about buying up commodities in 32x boxes when i see good prices

I now know how much the price varies

[hidden garden]

I do love the vulture

I was able to cram 32 crates onto it

[limber compass]

so the margin varries from 0.9k/scu too 1.5k/scu

and when you buy in bulk you can't auto load,

at least i'm not aware of auto loading from your inventory

only the moment you buy and sell

and then it sometimes doesn't work if you have hand loaded something etc

[hidden garden]

Your inventory has to be hand loaded iirc

That's what I do for all my cargo

[limber compass]

If we ever can change cargo box sizes and auto load from inventory it will be nuts

[hidden garden]

The c1 has a tractor beam so you can load from the cockpit anyways

And unload

[limber compass]

Big boxes with ship tractors is difficult

and the Zeus, i don't think you can load anything past 8x with that ships tractor

it just can't squeez the box by the tractor lasor and the ramp

gets stuck, can't rotate... might have skil issue, but i don't want to bother

Now i'm looking for the best ship to haul Roc DS

😄

recenly realized it's difficult to fit Roc DS in Zeus

Did some Hadanite mining, best spots Arial and Ignis...

A buddy braught a ROC DS

it's way, way more efficient

despite oyu haveing to get out and in the laser

collects like 5x faster

has more power, lots of rocks that take up to 5 min in single attempt

[hidden garden]

The roc DS exists I'd rather have 2 people on ROCs over 1 DS

[limber compass]

Duo ROCs sounds nice

[hidden garden]

You have a prospector don't you?

[limber compass]

but ROC DS collecting speed somehow is way better than ROC

5 times faster at least

it's just wacumes up everything in less than a minute

[limber compass]

yeah just put a Helix I on it

about to mine in 4.0 first time

Also kinda want to go look for janalite... found caves you can land a ship in 😄

[limber compass]

are you telling me i can mine Hadanite with low powered prospector mining heads?

that would be broken man

if you can also collect

well too little time to chat, more time play

Still have to gltich Mole bags through the floor if you buy them

I won't bother

[hidden garden]

I'd just get someone with a mole to meet you and you swap them

[limber compass]

I can just find mole wrecks anwyays

[hidden garden]

True true

[limber compass]

Moles spawn in bounties and you can get legal salvage claims

Allready looted m7a 4x... it's nuts, they sell for 396k

for future corsair or connie i'll get

Might just save for C2 now

Want to try 500 scu hauls D

half a mil per warp sounds nice

I assume there are supply issues

since i often can't buy even for Zeus, out of stock, bad prices

but damn backspace traveling to skip backtracking one way trade routes feels bad man

My immersion

[hidden garden]

I want to try solo mole

[limber compass]

I did lots of solo mole previous patch

Mole + scout Prospector might be the best

although seems the mineral distribution is changed, buffed a lot

At least for hadanite

i'll start survaying with prospector, just mine a load on each planet/moon

aaron belt

etc

for Hadanite i just stopped at Arial and Ignis...

Hadanite everywhere

unlimited

[hidden garden]

Damn not bad

[limber compass]

like i'm not kidding, you have 0 serach time

Ignis and Arial guys, go get some Hada

100-150k worth of Hada per patch

ROC takes some time, but duo ROC or a DS just slurps everything up

also mining in 30 server fps is so nice man

[hidden garden]

I don't think I've gone to pyro much this update

[limber compass]

Arial is Stanton

It's the same, you don't have to go Pyro lol

Although Pyro is super nice

all the pvp guys usually hang out at hotspots

so you can mine in peace

maybe get some stealth modules though

[hidden garden]

I spawned in pyro on day 1, but left immediately to experience the jump.

Then I guess there hasn't been much draw for me to go back

[limber compass]

going through the jump point is it's own reward

been looking for trade routes, but the best there is like 3k/scu

and no auto load, and risk

there is a low supply 10-15k/scu trade route in pyro itself

the moment you move to stanont it's the 10k/scu

also experienced elevators not working

invisible boxes or something, can't lower the elevator, or if you can it gets infinite loading

probably should report the bug... maybe later

Not loosing a haul to glitches and using every workaround in the book is another topic

[hidden garden]

I just use sc trade tools for my routes so if it told me to go to pyro I would

[limber compass]

I use it as a reference, but have a spread sheet where i record my hauls

like i said, looping routes make little sense in medium cargo ships for me now...

[hidden garden]

Yeah I have a carrack

[limber compass]

i'm a zero to hero kinda player

feels like having pledged a zeus is cheating to be honest

I'v subbed and gifted starte packages to support the game. The sub is kinda meh though.

the free montly ships ruin zero to hero

[hidden garden]

My fleet is only a vulture, carrack, and guardian

[ocean compass]

cant really earn 500k per run on a c2 😛 expect more like 300-400k

[limber compass]

because not worth buying gold or diamond, supply issues?

[ocean compass]

supply issue

[limber compass]

thanks for the input

anyone wana run E'tam from pyro to stanton? XD

first have to buy up the low supply and then find a working elevator

also only 2x boxes was it?

or i'm thinking Atlasium

[ocean compass]

depending on ship

c2 i prefer autoloading

i dont like to manual load

c2 and above

under c2, depending on ship

[limber compass]

C2 is nice for 32x boxes

[ocean compass]

if 100scu ships i would say do fresh food runs, 96scu in a c1 is already 535k profit

[limber compass]

If i get a catterpiller i'll auto load every time 😄

[limber compass]

let me read that aggain

[ocean compass]

yeah 400-500k profit for just 96scu on a c1

been doing that to earn my $$

[limber compass]

actually true 2.5k/scu have to work the elevators though

8x boxes

[ocean compass]

the fresh food buy it for 17k / scu on terra hydrofarms. sell for 21k / scu on hdms etc

[limber compass]

I'v done soem Taranite runs

[ocean compass]

12 box of 8

very fast

only 12 box

i've seen profit of up to 5k

[limber compass]

risky though...

[ocean compass]

when no one doing it

[limber compass]

how about the time?

[ocean compass]

cellin to hurston?

not that bad

[limber compass]

i can do a 100-150k profit run in 15 minutes

while watching youtube

[ocean compass]

be sure to get a maxed out QT

[ocean compass]

takes you 3 runs to meet my 1 run

1 run 15mins i get 500k

400-500k

[limber compass]

have you timed it?

[ocean compass]

yes

20mins

if there was stock and i dont waste time waiting for inventory

but if there's no stock, i just bedlog on planet

[limber compass]

yeah the C1 with the one 32x box in the middle sounds nice

i'v been overstacking the Vulture, the 4.0 servers hold up

[pallid talon]

With c2?

[limber compass]

C1

[hidden garden]

C2 sadly doesn't have a tractor beam so hand loading is lame

[ocean compass]

yeah why i say 96 for c1 is because the freight elevator only does 96scu. and when you fill up c1 96scu - you cant exit ship

[ocean compass]

c1

[pallid talon]

I could use my sl max doing that 224 scu baby

[limber compass]

IMO C1 tractor is better than Zeus

[ocean compass]

for sure

[ocean compass]

good luck waiting for stock

the route is well known

[limber compass]

Yeah stock is a big deal...

[ocean compass]

each time it restocks like 40-50scu only

[hidden garden]

96 scu isn't bad with the c1

[ocean compass]

thats why its good for a 100scu ship like c1

[pallid talon]

Which is every 10 mins ish yea

[ocean compass]

not suitable for your fatlancer

[pallid talon]

Dont be mean

[hidden garden]

The lancers are gross

[ocean compass]

haha thats the ship pet nick 😛

[limber compass]

Fatlancer is nice bro

32x6

[ocean compass]

also c1 96scu earning 400-500k in 1 trip is just perfect

15-20mins max

[hidden garden]

Cockpit is lame

[limber compass]

you can have dancers on your panel

wdym

[ocean compass]

like i said, 17k buy 21k sell = 4k profit / scu, thats when high demand. when no one runs i've seen profits of 5k/scu

[pallid talon]

Zip

[limber compass]

what 5k/scu

[ocean compass]

fresh food

[hidden garden]

Worst cockpit ever

[pallid talon]

Is there any better runs than that

Legal and illegal

[limber compass]

I'm totally trying outpost trading later, now mining, cave diving

where is the janalite man!?

14k per tiny rock

[ocean compass]

discussion i had ytd with a buddy

i recorded my earnings

531,376 in 1 run

[limber compass]

oh you didn't mention the 7 mil buyin XD

[ocean compass]

thats my base money brother 😛

now i have 400k. finally bought my connie

[pallid talon]

7mil????

[ocean compass]

nono thats my base money imjust recording before and after

my profit's 531k

[hidden garden]

What's the buy in?

[ocean compass]

1.7m

sells for 2.1m min

[limber compass]

aaaa

omg i had a stroke for a mment

[pallid talon]

Thats alot of risk no?

[ocean compass]

i think its acceptable?

500k runs

[limber compass]

i haven't done outpost calculations, got addcited to auto loading at Lagrange points

did like two Taranite runs

[ocean compass]

what are you guys running in what ship atm?

[hidden garden]

Whatever sc trade tools tells me for my carrack

[limber compass]

check out my list i made to memorize commodities

look at eggs bro 😄

[ocean compass]

whats 80k 25k mean

[limber compass]

kinda have to know this when looting wrekcs

[limber compass]

the avarage price..

[ocean compass]

oh selling price?

[limber compass]

so when you loot a wreck, this is reference

what is not on the sheet is bellow 5k

eggs 18k 😄

am i missing Maze?

also hada, because it's in a different form, not scu boxes

if you don't store them in scu boxes ofc

the 2scu atlasium route with almost no supply in Pyro is funny

I just assume if i could mine with no optimal pre 4.0... i'll easily do it with 4.0 servers 😄

honestly 4.0 is a big game changer

[knotty dove]

guys is mole worth it over prospector if you are solo?

[livid briar]

It's not fun switching seats.. advantage is capacity and having three laser set ups for different needs

[knotty dove]

thanks

[quiet night]

Does the c2 still dance about all the time when landed?

[weak oyster]

if you open the back yes

[spare cloud]

Pretty sure it's a landing gear issue and not a ramp one. That the ramp actually helps stabilize it

[olive wagon]

What is this? I was doing Member missions, to get to the next level. Last mission I did, had to drop 92 SCU it only registered 8. I could not make it take the rest and just pressed submit to "complete it". Was paid 0 for that and saw that the hauling section was gone from contracts.

The red bar seems to get smaller, so back to Trainee I go...

[quiet night]

if it doesnt complete when sending it down in the elevator just leave it and log off for ten mins, hitting submit hands it in but you lose rep for not completing it

[olive wagon]

Yeah, log off seems to be the fix for a lot of crap

[quiet night]

indeed, both the loops i enjoy seems to work about 40% the time, but i get similar bugs across both so at least its currently consistently crap, it is what it is, they will fix stuff at somepoint

[tender quiver]

Where and what should I mine with Mole?

[ocean compass]

you submitted wrong cargo / mission. the rep will recover after a while, at least thats what happened for a friend

you basically got banned from hauling missions for a bit

[olive wagon]

It was the right cargo, I only had 1 mission active 92 SCU stims, Magnus Gateway to Everus. But it only accepted one 8 SCU box. I mean in the console it only said 1x8 SCU for contract, rest of the cargo appeared in my station inventory.

One hour passed and only about 25% of the red is gone. I guess the ban is 4 hours. Worse than jail lmao.

[copper apex]

Is mining even worth it anymore?

Like I used to love mining

But havent done it in like 3 years

[full sapphire]

$5k for an arrow salvage right!? Lol.

[vale pumice]

thanks

[raw shell]

Moons like cellin, yela, and I hear moons in Pyro are good. Quantanium is king and always the unicorn to look for. Riccite and Stryorum are new materials in Pyro but sounds like they are even more rare than quant. Taranite, Gold, and Bexalite are more realistic though then if you find those more rare materials consider yourself lucky.

[tender quiver]

so if I dont want to stress with time while mining quant I should look for more "neutral" materials

Whitch ones are the most profitable?

[spark crest]

what's the best moon to prospecter mine in 4.0

also how does the mining work with physical cargo?

do i need to put the mining baskets thingies into freight elevator?

[halcyon plaza]

trying to sell my first haul with Hull C, but I don't understand why I can only sell 20 8SCU boxes at Bajini Point when Distilled Sprits is in demand and low in stock? any ideas?

[mental wave]

is this also the chat for mining?

any other Orion Barge Bros up in here?

[raw shell]

I think taranite right now but check the SC Trade tools site for selling prices. I'm still grinding salvage panels to buy a mole myself.

[dapper mesa]

Where's everybody like mining in pyro?

[spark crest]

just go for quant, you get a big enough timer and they are rly worth it, it's like 25k per scu compared to gold and stuff that are only 8-14k per scu

[spark crest]

if you want you can rent a mole and do a giant grind

[mental wave]

staying the F away from pyro right now XD

[raw shell]

you still can't change the mining heads can you?

[dapper mesa]

Don't waste your time searching for just quant, it legit has a 2% spawn rate. Look for T3 mats like taranite, gold, bexalite and consider any quant you happen to find a bonus.

[spark crest]

not sure

[raw shell]

I know that was always the problem with the prospector rentals. Without being able to load better mining heads and modules they were pretty much useless. I didn't know you could rent moles but the big advantage of having a mole is being able to load different mining heads and an array of modules to break different sized rocks. Without that ability, I wouldn't bother with a mole, especially solo

[weak oyster]

yea and if you open the back need to open the front to make it stable

[raw shell]

black screen then "lobby error 60015"... no way around this bullshit is there?

[copper apex]

Is it worth buying a prospector in game?

I used to love mining

I currently own a vulture, super hornet, Polaris, Zeus CL, and taurus

[knotty dove]

rent it and decide if mining is for you

[raw shell]

After having a Mole in previous updates, I would say no if you have a vulture. I'm making auec with my vulture to get a mole

[plain silo]

I'm looking to pledge buy a ship that is fairly cheap, can carry a ROC and can do cargo, any reccomendations?

[copper apex]

Not a bad idea

[jolly nest]

Ok, super new but would like to team up for hauling and other missions if anyone is interested. UK time zone. Apologies if this is not the correct plave to post this

[jovial matrix]

cheapest ship to carry a ROC would be the nomad. A good all-rounder, but doesn't have very much cargo space, at 24SCU. For 30 dollars more, you have the freelancer and the cutlass black. Both have a good amount of cargo, 66 and 46 respectively. Both can carry a ROC, but afaik it is an extremely tight fit in the freelancer. However, I don't know if thats changed since the freelancer has physicalized components now. Cutty can comfortably carry a ROC

[jovial matrix]

I'd reccomend asking in #looking-for-session instead, much more likely you'll find someone there

[odd ruin]

would a C1 be better? debating trading in my freelancer for one

[jovial matrix]

better for ROC mining? It would definitely be easier to get the ROC in and out

C1 would generally just be better, thinking about it

C1 is bigger, so harder to land, and only has 1 shield, but I think for general pve stuff it would be better overall. Cargo bay is a lot easier to work with and is a lot bigger (if you use the entire space, not just the grid), so better for moving cargo or vehicles

if you're willing to spend the extra 15$ and you like the ship, go for it. I would definitely try it out in-game first though, there could always be something that you dont like about the ship that you wouldn't have known otherwise

[plain silo]

Other question about buying ships, I was looking at the c1 and it says upgrade standard edition or buy the ship, it’s the same price so what’s the point?

[near swallow]

You do not want to put mining bags in a freight elevator, they don't work with those right. For now, refining works just like it did in 3.22. You don't have to do anything special until you're unloading your refined ores to sell. It's better to manually unload the boxes and store them for selling, then to try and sell direct using auto unloading. (Auto unloading is buggy in my experience.)

[jovial matrix]

not sure what you mean

[plain silo]

Ooohhh wait nvm

I was just being a bit dumb 🤣

[near swallow]

CCU chaining can be a way to save money on ships, but only due to the use of warbond CCUs. There's a whole Discord section talking about CCUs.

[jovial matrix]

all good lol

[spark crest]

thx

[near swallow]

Using a CCU chain I built over the course of a year, I can get an Ironclad for $250 instead of $400/$450. (Since Ironclad isn't out yet, I "paused" the CCU chain at a Reclaimer for now, but I have the remaining CCUs to finish the chain.)

[spark crest]

did the scanning change? wasn't it automatic?

[plain silo]

What does CCU stand for?

[near swallow]

Cross Chassis Upgrade I believe.

[plain silo]

When you do then is there any diminishing value, eg if I buy a ship for £30 will it only be worth £25?

[near swallow]

The melt value of a ship will equal the amount of actual money you put into it, so in the case of my Ironclad chain, if for some reason I melted it, I would only get $250 back in the form of store credit. The real trick with CCU chains is that warbond CCUs, which is where the savings come from, have to be bought with new money, not store credit.

Another use for CCU chains, is to get a ship with Lifetime insurance or 10 year insurance, even if the ship is not normally available with that kind of insurance. A ship you CCU to inherits the insurance of the base ship. So, people often call relatively cheap ships with LTI, LTI tokens.

[silver nova]

Question: I refined some ores from mining and now I want to transfer them into my C1 spirit but it won't let me because not enough space in my C1? Is there not a way to manually load my refined materials?

[spark crest]

is it normal to not find any mineable rocks? i've been flying for a solid 5 minutes without finding a single roick or questionmark in scanning mode, playing in 4.0 preview so maybe servers are cooked enough to stop rocks spawning?

[near swallow]

You need to get a bigger ship. For my Mole, I found a Freelancer MAX was big enough.

[silver nova]

Kind of bad design.. should be able to split the load or something

[vale pumice]

do you know why i can't leave jail, my sentence is finish but when i got to elevators it doesn,t tp me to somewhere

[coarse ember]

just keep spamming the button or hop servers until it eventully teleports you

[copper apex]

Where should I try to mine?

Pyro?

[hollow sedge]

I have had luck around pyro V and its moons, particularly on Ignis. I have also had luck on Monox and Bloom.

[sonic fiber]

Mining needs a lot of quality of life work

[coarse ember]

For roc mining
Daymar in Stanton
Pyro 4 and ignis are good spots for hadanite

[copper apex]

I actually really like mining again

Its very calming

I was just on clio

Not a ton of money to be made, but a nice vibe

I probably made 100k in one run

I probably make close to 400k with salvage

[mental wave]

Tip for all you mole miners out there.

When you're jumping from cockpit to the front center mining position.

If you turn around and jump backwards down the ladder,
Your quick fall down and it's a hell of a lot quicker

Where y'all poppin rocks? I'm over at ARC L4

[plain silo]

Well I've decided apon either buying the c1 spirit or the nomad but I don't know which, nomad bc it is more starter orientated or the c1 spirit bc of the larger hauling capacity, any reccomendation/advice?

[copper apex]

C1

It's just a better ship period

[pastel flame]

Nomad will be nicer in some regards like landing next to crowded bunkers, quick tractor of a few 1 scu boxes, that kind of thing. C1 brings bigger space and a bigger footprint.

[plain silo]

What would u say between c1 and cutty black?

[coarse cape]

C1

[copper apex]

C1

100%

Better SCU, a tractor beam, better HP, better weapons

Almost everything minus a turret

[tranquil gust]

New to salvage but ive got a Vulture. What's the most profitable contracts i should be looking for. I did a test run with an arrow and 325a for a total cost of 26k and made about 18k. Was pretty dissapointed lol

[mighty prawn]

I am thinking of trying Hauling. I see that the evaluation hauling mission pays out 13k. But how much does the top tier mission pay out and how many SCU do we need to move for top tier too?

[coarse ember]

just search for panels in open space to scrape the rmc off of or takethe illegal contracts with no fee

[mighty prawn]

I am curious as well, just how much on average can we expect on the open space scraping provide?

[livid briar]

Meta isn't top - meta is spam 6 extra small missions that pay 50k each for 300k in 25 minutes 🤣

You can move 90-120 SCU for like 70-90k though @ medium tier

[mighty prawn]

I like that one, so do 6 extra small mission? I will try that. how many boxes per smal mission? is it all to the same pick up and drop off?

[mighty prawn]

ok, thanks

[mighty prawn]

Any risk to watch out for?

[livid briar]

My strat is go to an orbit above a Capitol and pick up 6 extra small contracts (7-12 SCU each) in a C1 all destine for the planetary city.

[coarse ember]

dunno tbh, did a illegal prospector salvage mission tho i scraped 4scu of rmc and that did me 54k

for about maybe 10 mins not including flying there

i forgot to include abrades so i had the wack stock loadout

[mighty prawn]

I will have Andromeda with 96 SCU, can I do 6 extra small mission together ?

[livid briar]

You probably won't find six every time, let alone more than six. Don't worry about it.

[tranquil gust]

Thanks! Should i just be searching around stations?

[livid briar]

The risk is not every mission completes. Usually one fails to register or a box goes missing.

[livid briar]

Yela belt is very good

[coarse ember]

yeah you can search around stations or yela asteroid belt, tap v to enter scan mode, ping with tab and look for scan signatures with multiples of 2000 so 1 is 2000 2 is 4000 and so on

as you get closer set your pierce higher and slow down until you see the outlines when you ping

[raw shell]

I'm getting close to 400k/run - panels in aaron's belt

[mighty prawn]

ok, thanks, just how much time do you spend on this per run?

[raw shell]

hmm probably like 45 - 60 min or so? Usually at least 2 stops, 1 if I get lucky.. then the time to pull it out of the buffer the drive to terra mills to unload and sell. Sometimes the cargo elevator is broken and I have to server hop to find a working one.

I pack the cargo bay with 3 rows then fill the buffer again

[mighty prawn]

I am also considering ROC mining, what's the best ones to work for and how much would that pay per hour? Few years ago, it was about 150k per hour, has this been increased recently?

[raw shell]

hawk's gaming just put out a vid for starters and went over some ROC mining. Apparently aberdeen is the shit these days. I haven't tried it myself in this release so not sure how much a haul of hadonite brings you these days

[pulsar pollen]

Hey! I have an issue, so I have some cargo on my vulture, but unfortunately I couldnt take it out, it just says "detaching" while flashing and never detach, is there a way to get the cargo now?

[raw shell]

I've done a lot of roc mining and just find it a bit of a pain to haul that thing around.. unloading/loading.. then if it gets damaged and dies with a load of hadonite it bloody sucks

[mossy radish]

the unconscience bug is fucking me hard

and now i cant use the f interact key

[raw shell]

barring server crash black screen bullshit, the vulture with panels is pretty steady cash flow

[mossy radish]

my god

[raw shell]

I'm working up to a mole and freelancer max

[mighty prawn]

can mole salvage, or do you mean astroroid mining with mole?

[raw shell]

nah it can't salvage. I'll be doing moon mining with the mole. Big rocks

three laser turrets you can configure with different mining heads and mods for different situations. I find it fun for solo mining

the loop of mining, refining, then hauling to a TDD for sale gives nice variation of gameplay and good aUEC

[mighty prawn]

Moon mining? What is it that you mine? is it Quantianium thing? the one that had to be shipped back before it explodes?

[raw shell]

yeah that's the grand prize but it's a rare spawn. Taranite, Bexelite, and gold are the bread and butter these days. There are a couple of new materials in pyro too but I think I'll be staying in stanton for a long while to build the bank up

[mighty prawn]

Ok, thanks, just to get an idea. Just how much would that pay per hour, give or take? like 500k per hour?

[raw shell]

I've never really broken it down that way to be honest. I use the highest yield refining, which can take a couple of days to process for big loads... then hunting for good ore is all random.

the big question is, is it fun to do? That usually depends on the game stability. Enough lost loads and time wasted will have me deleting this shit and trying next year

which I've done probably 4 times now lol

so far 4.0 has been pretty fun despite the bugs, and I'm up 6.5mil

[copper apex]

Anyone else having issue with rocks not actually being minable?

[snow cosmos]

Saw it a couple of hours ago, left it alone and located another that mined fine.

I'm testing different gameplay looks for making money, mostly focused on industrial jobs. I have a vulture, freelancer max, and prospector. I've been kinda surprised with findings. The hauling missions very often bug out, and cargo sent down the elevator doesn't get counted so I automatically cannot complete the hauling quests as cargo goes missing. I also lately have seen hauling missions split cargo out across containers poorly, so like, my Freelancer max cannot complete an 82 SCU haul since it chooses to split it across twenty separate 32 SCU containers.

I'm also just simply not seeing the returns on mining and refining, it seems I always net more just selling unrefined ore than refined ore (hauled out to Orison by the MAX after mining with my prospector).

The Vulture on the other hand is like, ~400K/1hour or 1.5 hours. Pretty reliably.

Am I just having bad luck with bugs on the hauling side, and bad mining on the mining side? Is it possble for those professions to even net close to salvaging?

[iron fog]

how do i easily find rocks I can mine with my prospector. I must be scanning wrong.

[snow cosmos]

You can mine asteroids (some are hard to mine with that vehicle) or planets/moons. I suggest starting on a moon, flipping to scanning mode 1 to 2 km above the surface, fly over it, and pulse scan with tab. Roll scroll wheel back, so that you are doing a 360 scan, and then narrow it by rolling mouse wheel forward, which narrows the scan to directly in front of you. Pulsing scanning, with enough time to see it go all the way out, and you'll eventually find things to turn towards.

They'll show up as "Unknown" blips on your HUD.

You fly towards them to discover what they are.

You narrow scanning only when you're moving towards something directly in front of you. It'll change position as you're focusing the scan on it.

[snow cosmos]

This method Ship is describing is the same I'm using to net 400k/hour

[iron fog]

Thank you - I was hoping there was a way to tune out the items that the ship cant mine (like hand minable rocks). guess not. That's a handy tip about the mousewheel and scanning. Wasnt aware of that

[snow cosmos]

Yes, I think a lot of people don't understand what purpose the scrolling does, and it basically focuses the beam narrower and narrower ahead. There IS a way to tell though. You get a pop up number above the scan, and different values are different things.

You can learn exactly what those are... in asteroid fields multiple of 2000 are salvage ship parts for example.

Unfortunately, I do not possess the knowledge you seek on how to identify what you are mining, but I know 100% yes that value will tell you what is there, I just don't have any key myself other than the info I just shared.

[ashen oyster]

The last 2 days i have had some very bad luck with hauling. i would chain 4 missions and only 1 would actually 100% complete.

[iron fog]

I must not have the hang of scrolling to set the beam width - I'm pretty much using default controls, but when I scroll in mining mode it changes the laser power, and when I scroll outside of mining mode, it changes the gun group

and on cellin I'm finding many small rocks I cant mine. where are miners filling up their prospectors quickly

[stray vessel]

Hey yall, is there a bug where scu boxes will get stuck in the ship grid after sending the ore to your ship from the refinery?

[novel forge]

anyone know where i can rent a reclaimer or a vulture

[ocean compass]

not rentable

[novel forge]

both of em?

[ocean compass]

yes

[novel forge]

ffs

[ocean compass]

https://finder.cstone.space/ShipShops

use this to see what ships are rentable, assuming you know how to use the filter

[novel forge]

thanks

[ocean compass]

type "TRUE" in the rentable column

[novel forge]

now i gotta find a way to make nearly 3 mil

[ocean compass]

arent too bad

what ship do you have

[novel forge]

renting a c1 atm

[ocean compass]

go do some hauling

hauling missions stack 7 missions from seraphim > orison, 350k in 25-30mins

[novel forge]

ive tried but every mission is broken

[ocean compass]

broken in what sense

[novel forge]

wont register that ive collected the shipment, wont register that ive delivered it and wont let me abandon

[ocean compass]

that sounds bad

[novel forge]

cant even do the intro to hauling mission for 50k

[ocean compass]

another potential solution is doing mercs, get seed money, then do commodity trading (higher risk)

[novel forge]

yeah ok

[ocean compass]

thats how i earned a taurus 8m, i did fresh food trading in my c1, 96scu nets me 400-500k per trip

but seed money is 1.7m

[novel forge]

holy christ

where would i pick that up from?

[ocean compass]

!tradetools

[jolly dagger]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[ocean compass]

see your routes here

filter stanton only, put in your available aUEC your willing to risk let this thing automate for you a route

dont expect to be making bank tho

[novel forge]

yeah okay

honestly just wanted to do the risky salvage missions but getting a vulture has been a headache to say the least

[ocean compass]

another solution is borrowing a vulture

but take note, RMC scrapped from those borrowed vultures are marked "stolen" and can only be sold in Grimhex

borrow from another player who has a vulture

[novel forge]

That’s a thing?

Damn okay

[copper apex]

Vulture has been the best for me, but I also love mining. If you sell at orison or terra mills, you get 10.7-11.1

[ocean compass]

anyone has a listing best place for roc mining in pyro? heard what pyro V?

[gritty slate]

what is the best module for mole?

[zenith ocean]

Good morning . Is someone encounter issues when do hand mining in caves with multi-tool ? I cant adjust the power and the bar does not turned on

[zenith ocean]

Ignis

[ocean compass]

thank you

[copper apex]

4.p cargo elevators are borked right now

[spark crest]

where is good place to mine asteroids?

[plain silo]

I've been quite annoyed with my aurora mr and I am thinking of upgrading to a nomad, is it worth it?

[spare cloud]

More of a question for #ccu-and-fleet-advice .
If you're less than 30 days old on the game, I recommend you refund to Aurora to grab either the Titan or Nomad discounted packs

[copper apex]

3-5th belt of aarons halo

[hoary copper]

any new locations for camping cargo haulers?

[knotty dove]

yes Pyro

[copper apex]

Is it better to just say buy a prospector or save up for a mole?

I enjoy mining, and have 5 mil SCU saved up with more on the way

Mole is 8.9 mil

I'm thinking if I mine in pyro, the mole seems better for it

[wraith cairn]

Depends if u wanna bother changing between pilot and miner seats every time + flying more like a spacecow in exchange for - more space for ore, 3 different lasers for different composition/size rocks and more overall power, possibility of mining with friends on same ship.

So ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[copper apex]

I mean, I do salvage all the damn time

So, getting in and out of the pilot seat doesn't really matter much to me

I've flown the mole, and even used to own one years ago, but was just seeing if it's actually worth it now

Instead of just saying fuck it and buying a prospector

[wraith cairn]

I mean its really down to preferrance but generally I think Mole is better if ur really into mining

[ashen oyster]

Hello everyone,

I have made a suggestion on Spectrum about a very simple update to the RAFT's cargo grid, one that involves no update to the artwork of the ship.

Here is the link to the spectrum post. Please head over and vote it up if you think this would be a good feature/compromise.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/65304/thread/argo-raft-qol-simple-cargo-grid-fix-update

Trying to get as much attention to the post so it hopefully gets seen.

Thanks

[raw shell]

I'm saving up for a Mole and not bothering with a prospector. The ability to equip 3 different mining heads and various module options, plus the S2 power make it no comparison.

I ve been mining for years.. I see the prospector as a trainer for mining

[spark crest]

also depends on what yuio want to do wiht it

[cloud condor]

what is the max amount of 24scu containers that i can put in a C2?

[spark crest]

i had a mole in 3.24 and had a full setup and used it for a while but i hated to keep running around the ship, if you just want to casually mine and don't want to worry about using the right stuff and running around, it might be a b4tter choice to go for prospecter if youdon't need max money from it

[vocal oracle]

Mole is very annoying solo now. I haven’t figured out a way to easily scan from the pilot seat.

[cloud condor]

hire a scout

[vocal oracle]

I dunno, I feel like it is a bug. I should be able to see rock contents in one of the MFDs but it only shows up randomly. I should check for IC reports I guess.

[raw shell]

You should be able to see the contents in the mfd from the pilot seat. To see the mass you've had to go into the turret. At least, that's how it was. I haven't tried a Mole in 4.0 yet

[copper apex]

I thought they made mining heads the same now?

Or are the size 2 heads more powerful, but with the same stats

[raw shell]

AFAIK more powerful

[ashen oyster]

I'm going to say 26

[snow cosmos]

I did a chart like this for the Freelancer MAX. Odd to discover it could only hold 84 SCU on it's cargo grid.

[snow cosmos]

Can you share link to source?

[cloud condor]

is the TS-2 QT drive not for sale anymore in the game?

[tender quiver]

Are Hurstons moons good for Mole mining?

[ashen oyster]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/community-hub/post/cargo-grid-reference-guide-vqkv5cQI8ZCLC

[brisk gorge]

I'm not able to hop online to test, but was curious. Are you able to combine smaller refined metal containers to make a larger one? This way you don't have 27152 1 SCU containers after processing?

[plain silo]

Is it possible to rent a nomad?

[ashen oyster]

I believe when you go to pick up the order after its completed refining you get the option to select how it will be boxed up. Once its boxed up though i dont think you can change it.

[hidden garden]

is autoloading worth it?

[tender quiver]

Yes it is
https://finder.cstone.space/ShipShops1/34506e83-b7b8-4804-a7bb-f31f11bb9214

The prices and locations where you can rent it

[molten hatch]

Anyone out there mining or salvaging around the Lagrange stations, be careful. I've blown up my Vulture 3 times now by hitting some invisible object

[plain silo]

Is the website 3.24 or 4.0?

[copper apex]

Not really

Go to clio

[tender quiver]

uhhhh idk

Why is moles mining laser doing nothing to rocks I want to mine

the laser intensity is on 100% but the rock cant charge

[pastel flame]

Are you in optimal range?

Unless it says "impossible" that's about the only reason

[tender quiver]

yeah

[tender quiver]

and yeah is says impossible

[pastel flame]

That's why

Sometimes you can hit a sweet spot and get some charge, but otherwise you'll need an active like Stampede or Surge

[tender quiver]

so my laser modules are just too weak?

[raw shell]

That or the rock is too big. What is themassof the rock?

[tender quiver]

I dont remember

but it was BIG

[raw shell]

Are you new to mining with the MOLE?

[tender quiver]

yeah Im new to it but I had chance to mine with prospector and ROC

[raw shell]

Check this guy out on YouTube. "elguapoe". His videos are long streams but he has some critical tips and tricks to mining solo with the MOLE. There are a few short build out recommendations too.

He especially has good tips for breaking "IMPOSSIBLE" rocks

[random pagoda]

Also try the mining tutorial series from RedMonsterSC

[raw shell]

I always have redmonsters website up

[tender quiver]

alright

thank you so much for help

[random pagoda]

Folks, anyone having a REALLY hard time delivering hauling missions?

I am trying for five days and those 4.0 bugs just don't let me.

Is it something on my machine or is it general?

I know it will take some time for 4.0 to be truly playable, but I managed to move some boxes a few days ago...

[pastel flame]

Today it got especially fucked.

[random pagoda]

Don't even tell me! If I tell my story some poeple will cry. 😆

[mild basalt]

I was able to do hauling the first few days, ever since then it's been broken in a multitude of different ways in every session.

[random pagoda]

Then it is general.

I am experiencing exactly the same.

[random pagoda]

Thanks!

Changing subject:

Folks, I am planning on forming an org (as soon as 4.0 lets me make aUEC for new ships).

The idea is starting with a five-strong crew in a reclaimer and optimizing as we go. I also have a few ideas for a mining operation, but I don't know if they will work, now that the Aaron belt seems to no longer be mineable.

I really like the idea of "climbing the ladder" by exploiting the most technicalities (processes, equipment, workflows, etc.) I can.

Anyone interested?

PS: I don't yet have a reclaimer. I am in the 500Ks by now, but that was in one day of work. Since then, bugs ate my cash flow. xD

[ashen oyster]

Im in the same boat, First few days i was flying through hauling missions, Im almost through experienced rank now. But the last 48 hours has been an absolute nightmare!!! I think i might have successfully complete 2 contracts in the last 48 hours, either elevators are bugged, cargo does not get recognized, Black screen, Server error ( last night i waited 30 minutes for it to come back, only to have another server error 10 min later. That one did not recover) or just general SC bugs completely ruining the mission.

Im currently waiting for a server error to reboot me to a working server, Only need to make one more drop off and i might actually complete 4 missions this run

[random pagoda]

That is my sad story, as welll...

Are you intending on teaming up when 4.0 gets a little more playable?

[copper apex]

Is there any money to be made in pyro for either salvage or mining, or is it just not worth the trouble?

[random pagoda]

Ace, Pyro is now a griefer's paradise.

If you like combat, go there! There is plenty!

If you like hauling, mining, salvaging or anything that does place you in a slow "space brick", I dare tell you not to waste your time. 😦

...unless you take friends with big guns there with you. 😉

[ashen oyster]

im already in a group

[random pagoda]

Oh... good luck, then! 🙂

[mild basalt]

I kept getting to the top of Junior and then having my rep knocked back down because the bugs made completing contracts impossible. So now I'm just chilling, waiting for the fixes.

[raw shell]

You can join up to 10 orgs at the same time in SC

Just a FYI

[ashen oyster]

What i found is never click abandon on a mission or you will get the rep loss which i extremely high, also i have had success with clicking the submit button when i have complete more then 60% of the mission, i once click submit when i had 0% done it it dropped me 1 whole rank.

[raw shell]

As for Pyro, flew into bloom the other day to buy a helmet and was shot down on sight

[ashen oyster]

Well my server error went away and was replaced with a black screen!!!!

[raw shell]

That's the new 30k. Game over, start again

[ashen oyster]

ya, I'm now sitting at a completion ratio of about 2 out of 45 or more in the last 48 hrs

[raw shell]

There is an issue open for it on the rsi website. I encourage everyone to flood that thread

[mild basalt]

That's what I tried to do with a mission as well. The elevator ate 40% of the cargo so I had 60% complete, I hit submit and then it told me I failed and the rep got whacked back down, so I just untrack the borked missions now.

[random pagoda]

Please, can you place the link?

[random pagoda]

Freight (or "fright") elevators are the new pirates! 😄

[copper apex]

If mining isn't my only profession in this game, is it really worth dropping basically 10 million for a mole including parts and etc when I also do salvage?

Or can I operate well with a prospector

[pastel flame]

You can do great with a prospector. Get a MOLE when you're flush enough that it doesn't seem like a lot anymore.

Run helix with reiger c3 and Stampede to break the bigger quant and taranite rocks

[silver nova]

Are there any places in PYRO where I can sell Hadanite???

[tropic swallow]

Are there any cargo missions that can use the Hull C?

Like 4k SCU from the freight elevator?

Why can't I load that onto my Hull C

[copper apex]

Is terra mills still fucking borked?

[raw shell]

https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-140627

[raw shell]

just server hop to a different server

go to an OM and bedlog, come back in

[silver nova]

If im not mistaken the Hull C can only be loaded in space?

[spare cloud]

Well, you could park it just 10m over an outpost and load it like that with tractor beams.
But yes, the ship is meant from space station to space station trading, and was never recognized on outposts/city trading terminals

[spare cloud]

There are hauling contracts for the H-C, but they use the usual H-C specific loading method.
Park in cargo area at space station, hail cargo services, wait while cargo magically appears on the grid

[tropic swallow]

Yeah but there are some that are station to station

[odd ruin]

Rented one for 1 day, and in sold. So much nicer for the solo cargo runs I've been doing. And loading the roc is easy as ever

[tropic swallow]

I haven’t found them.. I’ve got several thousand SCU requirements, but they say from freight elevator and don’t let me load from the cargo area

[spare cloud]

Post in #imadethis . Don't forget rule 5

[jovial matrix]

Then go for it, I'm glad you like the ship :)

[random pagoda]

Folks, logging out of the RSI loader and staying logged out for about half an hour worked for me.

I could even complete one full hauling mission... before the black screen. 😄

[compact depot]

I aquired some Neon. where the heck can sell this stuff?

[jovial matrix]

one of the 4 scrapyards in stanton should buy it, dunno about anywhere in pyro

[hidden garden]

hmm maybe I shouldnt autoload my ship, but that route was bad anyways only make me about 30k for the run

I dont think I could load a carrack faster than the autoload can though

I can not load a carrack 1 crate every 6 seconds

[compact depot]

my neon crates are 32scu each. i dont think the scrap yards have elevators that big

[limpid sluice]

https://uexcorp.space/commodities/info/name/neon/tab/locations_buying/

[compact depot]

TY

[limpid sluice]

grimhex says it does, but doesnt seem to have enough demand, i have a few sitting there waiting right now

[jovial matrix]

ah yeah, they wouldn't fit there

[copper apex]

What mods should I get for my prospector?

A helix and what else?

[mighty prawn]

Is hadanite mining in Aberdeen the best one for Roc? are there any charts that compares possible per hour earnings?

[hazy flame]

is Hauling broken?

[copper apex]

This game is broke as hell

Over half of the rock fields I fly up to cant be mined

[wraith cairn]

Basically everything is sometimes broken and sometimes not rn. Depends how the server is doin xP

[copper apex]

Mining is three shades of fucked rn

In two hours ive only gotten 15 SCU of taranite

Thats barely 100k

[safe socket]

when you approach minable rocks, you have to be in scan mode

if you are, they will load, has almost 100 percent success rate for me

[mossy radish]

construction materials still sells low right?

[jovial matrix]

1.8-2.4k depending on where you sell

[pastel flame]

ERT bounties 😉

One of 3 ships we looted from the last one, lol

I could use 2 hull C pilots on rotation with those

[leaden reef]

can the hull c sell that stuff where it can dock though

fighters + hull c + reclaimer working together sounds pretty awesome

[pastel flame]

Most of it yeah. It's legal bounties so the only thing you don't want to take with the Hull is the drugs

And usually it's only 16-30 SCU of drugs/weevs

All sells at GH now

[leaden reef]

whats ALl

i see grim hex buys 86 types of stuff

[pastel flame]

Yeah they buy more or less everything, lol

[tropic swallow]

So safe to say. No official cargo missions use the Hull C.

Only bounties & commodities

[pallid talon]

Wut

[pastel flame]

The higher ones can utilize a hull but the reward vs. Effort is wildly miscalibrated

Better off doing planetary rookies in a connie, lol

[hidden garden]

Aren't cargo missions buggy?

[pastel flame]

Sometimes, like all of them right now

[tropic swallow]

They can’t though? It says to collect from freight elevator

So I can’t load it without some weird method of getting it out of the hanger yk?

[pastel flame]

You can't autoload them via the usual cargo method for hull?

Should be in your inv

[tropic swallow]

It’s not worked for me so far

[pastel flame]

Bummer. I haven't gotten to the C on my buy list yet

[tropic swallow]

But that may be the game being buggy

[pastel flame]

Yeah

[tropic swallow]

I’ll keep trying

[pastel flame]

Very hit and miss in my exp

Seriously I could use some hull c friends

For ert

My cargo guy can't log in at all right now

[tender quiver]

What mining laser should I buy for MOLE to break bigger rocks?

[spare cloud]

Helix II

[plain silo]

What are the best websites for cargo hauling in 3.24?

[tender quiver]

Gallog I think

https://www.gallog.co/

[knotty dove]

highly recommend SC trade tools, but they already swittched to 4.0

[frozen elk]

RMC prices keep dropping :/

It's now at 10.5k

[raw shell]

terra mills is showing 11.08

[vestal ravine]

Due to all the lag and other issues I've been collecting CM only with the Hammerhead mission out of Orison. This last one netted me close to 500K. Dropping the 16 scu crates down the rear chute working great and for the final ones use VTOL to toss em out. Also the Bridge elevator working okay.

[sonic copper]

Does any one know if they fixed the hull c 4.0

[leaden reef]

i was able to complete 90% of hull c trades

[remote rune]

Is mining still bugged rn ?

[earnest dagger]

Mining cheat sheets 😄 Pin these if someone can please! I did not make these, just passing on information.

[spare cloud]

They're pinned already. Still the same 3.22 charts

[quiet atlas]

can you buy the ROC in Pyro

[raw shell]

loreville is the only place I know to get one

[still ridge]

does the hull c work reliably yet or does it still yoink cargo to the void

[blazing cedar]

Hey how do we sell ROC mineables since the cargo refactor?

Is it still possible to sell directly from the ROC to an outpost?

[spare cloud]

It doesn't work to sell in cities from the ROC, so doubt it'll work at outposts

Easiest way is to get a storage container at the back at the ROC, open both the container and ROC inventory at the same time, transfer it all, send box down freight elevator, and transfer to local.

If you can't open both at once (you have to be quick, it's not intended), you can transfer to backpack then to box, empty the ROC that way

[spare cloud]

It's uhh, still a 50/50

[grand frigate]

oh wait the raft is not purchasable anymore ?

[round pelican]

can I rent mole and swap mining heads through unlocking ports and manualy swaping it?

[proud pumice]

Trying my first hauling mission, aren't the good supposed to be in your hangers freight elevator?

Mission discription says it is, but there's nothing in the freight manager

[raw shell]

man finally found a server with a working terra mills

[jovial matrix]

congrats, took me two hours last time I tried

[raw shell]

so nice when someone leaves an atls too

[uneven sun]

I just black screened and now 60030 with 1mil of cargo on board

[raw shell]

that sucks 😕

[uneven sun]

Pretty sick of this version, looking forward to some hot fixes

[magic grove]

what are you doing to get 1 mil of cargo?

[uneven sun]

Got bored of bounties so went trading 🤦

[novel forge]

Drugs 😂

[ashen oyster]

It is, a bit over 3.5 mil at New Deal in Loreville

[hidden garden]

What is the minimum I should have to start doing commodity trading?

I know at 200k like I have right now sc trade tools says the routes wouldn't make more than an LRT

[pastel flame]

As much as you can let go to a crash or bad elevator

[rancid epoch]

Any recommended components loadout for mining with a prospector in pyro?

[pastel flame]

Helix 1, reiger c3, stampede

The rest is whatever tbh

Don't go for low hp components

[rancid epoch]

Well I was wondering if buying all stealth components help it a little bit. What do you think?

[pastel flame]

Negative, you'll still glow 30k ir

Not worth bothering imo

I mine within sight of ruin to the point at times I can ID the ships leaving the hangars

Reality is almost nobody gives a fuck about a prospector, that's our power

[rancid epoch]

Damn. So i guess I'll just upgrade the quantum drive

[pastel flame]

Yup! And iirc it's goliath stock? Strong pyro drive

[jovial matrix]

do your frames also tank when you look at the prospectors MFD's decoupled?

[pastel flame]

Typically no... one exception

[rancid epoch]

Yes

[pastel flame]

Sec flyinh

Ok sorry ya, issues only arise rarely if I take a bunch of damage kind of like the M50 cockpit? Where particles are everywhere and it can be a bit upset

Or if I'm too close to a busy Ruin, that gets a bit lower

The first case especially with head tracker on

[odd ruin]

Tractor on the C1 is life changing LOL

[pastel flame]

Ship tractors are so convenient

[odd ruin]

Big fan

[lapis phoenix]

Does the c2 have tractor or no?

[pastel flame]

no

[lapis phoenix]

Figures.

Been running the Taurus and it’s been a life changer. But looking to upsize my haul. Unfortunately lost back to back loads of rmc and bioplastic to pirates. So we’re back to square one. But def lookin around.

[leaden monolith]

Every time I use the C1 tractor it is single use only. Once I get out of it I have now way to deploy or retract it again. So although I like it, for me, it's useless.

[queen knoll]

I'm trying to buy commodities for my hull c but it keeps saying "failed transaction cost mismatch awaiting delivery from freight elevator", is there a way to fix this?

[mild basalt]

Have you checked the power distribution to make sure the Tractor has power when you get back into it? That's a really strange bug otherwise.

[leaden monolith]

I want to say yes but now you've asked I'll have to check that next time I'm in. Thanks

[signal ledge]

for ROC mining what am I looking for? Also does the ROC have a feature you can pick up all the ores that you mined?

[coarse ember]

yep, what you wanna look for roc mining is hadanite and similar to mining with a ship switching to extract mode sucks up the gems like a vacuum

daymar is pretty good and doesnt need any special heat protection, fly about 2km in the air and keep pinging pressing tab going about 100m/s scan anything that pops up as unknown within 3km of you, look for a scan signature of 5000-5,500 and should be a hadanite cluster

[signal ledge]

Do I switch by using right click?

[distant osprey]

are you buying a commodity that does not align to the frieght specs of the Hull-C, such as 1 scu boxes

[distant osprey]

such as a item that has a max container size at that location of below 16scu

[mild violet]

how much pain will I have when I will try to manually load Hull B when it releases?

answer is "yes"

[random pagoda]

Yep!

[leaden monolith]

If the Hull B layout is surface landing friendly then I would think it wouldn't be too much of a hassle. You should be able to fling boxes at it and they will stick. I'm an optimist btw

[glass gate]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask.. But as a solo vulture salvager, would I now easily be able to offload a full vulture in a station hangar, then load it onto a cargo ship to take down to sell later? 😅

Or is the persistent hangars only for your home hangar?

[leaden monolith]

put them on the freight elevator and store them at the space station or wherever. Then you can call them back up when you're ready to transport.

Don't leave them in your hangar if it isn't your persistent one.

[glass gate]

Oh, forgot about the freight elevator. I’ll give it a shot then, thanks

[raw shell]

why bother? Just fly to a place to sell and offload there.

freaking ponderous moving all those tiny crates

[ebon agate]

Is there an issue with the vulture salvage beam? Only one is mounting to my ship.

[raw shell]

no issue here but I haven't tried since the day 4.0 came out

[distant osprey]

Swapped mine just fine, any issues with it you might have to claim. Damaged components cannot be swapped out

[snow cosmos]

Should I just put an Atlas drive in everything I own?

[magic grove]

do you just buy them somewhere and bring them to anothert place?

[novel forge]

You can get them from 30k risky salvage missions

As well as they have a chance to spawn and nine tails outposts

[magic grove]

do i need a ship that can salvage or just risk it and see if the drugs are there?

[novel forge]

If you’ve got a risky salvage mission that pays 30k just take a cargo ship and loot the ship and leave

[magic grove]

thanks, ill try that if i can even get it

[near swallow]

Atlas isn't as good as it used to be. Colossus is faster and more fuel efficient. Vulcan is the most efficient S1, but slower.

In 4.0

[near swallow]

This may need more testing, but the transient hangars (aka everywhere but your primary residence) seem to be persistent as long as you don't leave that location. As in, if you don't leave Seraphim then the hangar(s) you've used there will be there next time you log in. Haven't fully tested item persistance in hangars, but I did see my ATLS waiting for me in a hangar. (I'd stored the ship before logging off, but didn't bother storing the ATLS, figured I'd just claim it, however it was there waiting for me.)

[signal ledge]

When I go to sell Hadanite do I sell them at a refinery in a space station?

[leaden monolith]

Sell it at mining outposts

[leaden monolith]

I had server issues at Seraphim while unloading a Vulture. Eneded up being booted. It was a couple of days before I logged back in but in my hangar was my Vulture still with cargo on the grid and in the hopper, cargo on the freight elevator and even on box on the hangar floor that I was in the middle of tractoring to the freight elevator.

You could be right about the persistence.

[signal ledge]

okay so when i do "ship" mining i assume i go to the refinery to refine them then?

[leaden monolith]

Yes

[near swallow]

You can sell right to the refinery, but for the best payout, you want to refine it and then take it somewhere to sell it. (TDD in Stanton, Admin in Pyro.) You will need a cargo ship capable of hauling the full load.

[signal ledge]

In order to refine it, do I go somewhere in the refinery? or Is it in another spot?

[near swallow]

There are kiosks you use, with your mining ship stored, to start the refinery job. You'll also have to pick a refining method.

In Stanton the kiosks are upstars on the refinery deck, downstairs is the shop/rental kiosks.

In Pyro, IIRC, head left once you leave the elevator lobby area.

[leaden monolith]

Go to the refinery, run past the shop and up the stairs...... what he said ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The two best methods are Dinyx Salvination and Ferron Exchange. They both give the same amount of refined ore with Dinyx being cheaper but much longer and Ferron being about twice as much but over 2x quicker.

[signal ledge]

alr so Im at the mining facility to sell my hadanite and it wont let me sell it

it says awaiting manual delivery to freight elevator

[shut remnant]

is the starfarer SCU 291 correct on SCTools?

in terms of cargo grid and not fuel carry

[limpid sluice]

that sounds about right

[glass gate]

Seems to be accurate, was offline for about 8 hours and when I logged back in and spawned another ship they both ended up in the same hangar 😅 Although that might be a bug it would indicate that they are somewhat persistent at least

[civic epoch]

how do you switch between fracture and extraction modes with the ROC?

[coarse ember]

alt + right click i think

ik it's some combo of alt + one of the two main mouse buttons

[civic epoch]

Left Alt + Left MB. TY!

[ebon agate]

Is there an issue with the vulture salvage beam? Only one is mounting to my ship.
Ive tried everything from re equiping to despawning the ship. Does anyone have any suggestions?

[civic epoch]

Another dumb question. Is there anything to do when the rocks that you find are not mineable?
Nice, small batch of Hadenite. After mining the first cluster on this moon, all others have ended up like this.

[low cipher]

how do you put gems from a Roc into the freight elevator

[frank warren]

Use a SCU container

Put a backpack on and transfers the gems from the ROC to your backpack and then from your backpack to your container. Put the container onto the elevator and lower it down and then I believe you have to remove the gems from the container into local storage

[limber compass]

Sooooo I swaped my prospector bags out for mole bags i looted from a legal salvage claim, i locked the ports and stored the prospector. It swaped back the MISC bags when i claimed the ship. Did it work like that, i misremember things.

kinda annoying, i payd 50k for the claim

do you lose swapped modules on claims now? what is going on?

My upgraded QT drive i baught stays on ships after claims.... why not mole bags looted from wreck...

I don't want to deal with clipping baught bags again, till they update mining.

[limber compass]

Can't wait to put refined ore in hanger storage

[frank warren]

When you swapped the mole bags onto the ship, did you remove a component from the ship, save it and then readd and resave? (If that make sense)

[limber compass]

ah forgot... that what it was

thanks

Actually would be fire if we get back ships with stock modules after claims, would make the game more difficult and immersive

Specially with the new A millitary you can't buy

or you insure each mod seperately

[frank warren]

Insurance is planned later on. It is gonna be tiered

So that is gonna happen lol

[limber compass]

I was actually excited that the bags didn't come after the claim i did just to move the ship...

just didn't make sense why my QT sticks to my ship through claims 😄

imagine actually having to move fleets

that is cargo

renting will also make much more sense...

need a quick hauler, jsut rent a Max

for an hour

want to use your A grade QT drive Max... well fly it to the station first.

Todays buy low sell high is going smoothly so far

hope i didn't jinx it

[polar fable]

is the Mole still buggy in 4.0 preview? or is it usable again?

[limber compass]

assisted people mining in one, seems fine to me, doors open

or rather, no doors at all for side lasors

[polar fable]

xD good enough

[limber compass]

also any kind of mining in 30 server fps is smooth AF

[polar fable]

damn 😄 nice

looking forward to it

[limber compass]

if you are far enough from other players, which when mining usually the case, you get a low populated 30 fps server.

Meshing is nice

The dude on the other side of the system stacking 1000 scu in their reclaimer won't bother you mining

[polar fable]

hahahaha xD

Is there a convenient way to transfer cargo between players yet?

I.E. do some mining in player As Mole and then move the cargo to player Bs hauler?

[limber compass]

All i know when ROC mining, party member coulnd't access my "store all" box

so the hadanite was safe even from party members

[polar fable]

dammit, I cant post a "my precious" gif

[polar fable]

which is what comes to mind when reading this xD

[limber compass]

also lots of Hada on Ignis and Arial

[polar fable]

how effective is the hada mining?

[mild agate]

Hey is it easy enought to put the argo mole bags on the prospector now?

[polar fable]

and did you do cave hand mining or ROC mining?

[limber compass]

YES

look at it, it's beautiful

[cunning agate]

Best to find a Mole, disable it, then pull the bags. Once you have them on your ship they will stay there even through claims.

[polar fable]

does the mole work on 3.24?

[hidden garden]

Don't you have to break the bar holding the prospector bags on

[pastel flame]

They changed it

[hidden garden]

Oh that's awesome now

[limber compass]

but they didn't DUN DUN DUN

[nimble urchin]

Does anyone know why my prospector won’t scan? Does it not have a stock scanned?

[limber compass]

Might be ghost rocks.

[nimble urchin]

No like I can’t get the ping to work

[novel forge]

press and hold tab for a short second i find haveing to long press sometimes dude to server latency

[nimble urchin]

So scanning mode doesn’t do anything? Because I enter scanning mode, I press the mouse button and no ping. Tab does do ping but doesn’t pick up rocks and works outside of scanning mode.

[limber compass]

scroll wheel down maybe

wait what, i'm confused

[hidden garden]

Can I rent a mole and steal the bags?

[spare cloud]

Not rentable

[raw shell]

yeah they're like 200k/day

[spare cloud]

Holdup yeah it is

Fuck yeah 4.0

[raw shell]

never thought of stealing the bags though

[spare cloud]

Typed first, checked after

[hidden garden]

Hands are faster than brain

[raw shell]

can you unlock ports in a rentable?

[hidden garden]

Idk if 200k is better than just going and finding one

[nimble urchin]

So this is scanning mode. I use it to find rocks yes? How do I get this to work?

[limber compass]

or 50k salvage claim

[spare cloud]

I think so.

[limber compass]

for legal salvage claims you need a ship with tractors, or bump the wrekc outside armsitce zone, can't use hand tractors

[raw shell]

I'm not sure if those bags would fit in a vulture

[spare cloud]

Don't need one. Just go on salvage claim with your prospector

As Zibens said, bump it out of the AZ

[hidden garden]

Vulture has a tractor

[spare cloud]

Yeah, and the point is still to get MOLE bags for a Prospector

[hidden garden]

Can 4 bags fit in a vulture?

[spare cloud]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[hidden garden]

I don't know if I can do the mole salvage yet

[limber compass]

yeah you need to clear some starter salvages first i guess

And even then i waited a day for 50k salvage rights started poping

[spare cloud]

Rental is the easiest way if you don't have a Vulture already

[limber compass]

got a set of m7a's from a corsair

those go for 395k now what

would love to increase bounty rep, but the missions often bug out

[spare cloud]

Unlucky

[limber compass]

i'm like half way in MRTs... i consider bounty missions as salvage, industry 😄

[spare cloud]

I've been doing bounties reliably around Crusader so far

[limber compass]

Also i'm kinda sick of Bounty Missions, also eggs are like 20k now

what is the point 😄

can you find Atlasium?

Diamond Laminate?

[hidden garden]

I did my first LRT fine then the second one glitched out and the game didn't want me to log back in after I tried to log and come back to fix it

[limber compass]

I do them, just once in a while till one glitches out, slowly but surely reaching ERTs...

Although i started thinking i should just loot other players ERTs... i was scavanging a cave and missions spawned

And have collected lots of boxes since

[knotty dove]

arent they buyable?

[limber compass]

bags are buyable, but you have to be good at glitching them through the floor

[novel forge]

Anyone know when the reclaimer is coming back into the pledge store???

[nimble urchin]

It left?

Most likely fleet week in may definitely in nov for IAE

[nimble urchin]

IFW is for military ships which the UEE does use the reclaimer so idk if it counts. But during IAE almost every ship goes on sale so I can say with certainty max you wait is nov

[novel forge]

Yikes that’s crazy

[spark crest]

where in canard view in pyro can i buy ships?

[vestal ravine]

I just checked the pledge store and its unavailable for purchase. There are reliable third party sites whereby a person can buy ships. Still seems strange to me also.

[novel forge]

Yeah idk if I trust people

[nimble urchin]

It might come out for a sale sooner than that but those two are cig big sale events so we always know when it will be

[random pagoda]

Can we still purchase it in-game?

...I mean: the Reclaimer.

[crimson mantle]

Yes, Loreville for 31M

[craggy tapir]

how can i get risky salvage jobs with 30k fee?

[crimson mantle]

Do a bunch of the smaller ones, complete them fully and build your reputation

[limber compass]

Every time i lose a Haul i bought for a mil. You know what, i'll go ROC mining now.

Had a weird one, i baught a full haul, but was able to sell only 10% of it.

I do auto loading.

Anyone want extra Argo bags, i'm looting a salvage claim, i need only the FOUR

If you are able to join my session that is

Illega tow disconnect now (count down from 7)

I paid 50k for that, what?

that is a first one

also able to fly Zeus from tractor seat.....

whoops

i clicked the wrong butoon, and incriminated myself

Hahaha... you know when you have a timer and you read "Charges will be ignored automaticly..." and you press "Yes" to that... Yes thank you

Pressing "Accept" to say "No, don't press charges" feels just wrong.

"No, press charges?", "Yes, press charges?"

it allways should be a "Yes, press charges?" without having context.

"Press charges?" Yes - No

ok accept decline is differetn

it's a freaking legal documunent

[silver creek]

What's a good place for roc mining

[limber compass]

Ignis Arial

[coarse ember]

daymar in staton or pyro 4 and ignis in pyro for hadanite mining

[limber compass]

have 100C capeable suit

daymar

will check that out, i just quit looking after endless hada on arial

[silver creek]

Does rsi exploration suit count

[silver creek]

Ight I have 2 rocs a friend a a cat

[limber compass]

hover over it my dude

[silver creek]

I'm at work or I would asking for tonight my bad chat

[raw shell]

which generates aUEC faster, scraping panels or ROC mining?

[hidden garden]

I do like panels

[raw shell]

it's been bringing steady auec but putting me to sleep.

[silver creek]

Real when I do salvage on edibles I pass out

How does mining compare too npc bounties

Also how's cargo since I have a cat I wanna do some cargo

[raw shell]

with these server stability issues, I wouldn't risk loosing a cat full of cargo, myself.

though I haven't seen a black screen in a couple days now.....

I still just have a titan too so I figure I can only go so far with bounties

I was thinking of investing in a roc or prospector to break up the monotony of panels but would also need either a cutty to haul it around in or a freelancer to cargo refinery stuff with..

[silver creek]

Wym u keep contracts thru server errors

[silver creek]

I bought 2 rocs cuz I made 700k from bounties made it too hrts rn

[silver creek]

Have a guardian u could use

Won't be on till tonight tho

I have f7a

But when I get too erts gonna bring cat for cargo

[raw shell]

I've never gotten to erts in progression before

those seem to bring in really good money though

[silver creek]

Okay wack

Hrts pay 48k

And erts pay 100k without pay bonus iirc

[raw shell]

nice, plus cargo?

[silver creek]

Yes

And norm drugs

[raw shell]

I'm guessing a connie is the weapon of choice for erts?

[silver creek]

I use f7a mk2

I don't like anything big

[raw shell]

those have enough cargo space to loot?

[silver creek]

I bring a friend with my cat

[raw shell]

ah yeah gotcha. that would work

[silver creek]

Or polaris or starlancer as I'm a sub so I think that's why I have thoose

[silver creek]

Indeed wanna get money then go too pyro

[raw shell]

oh they gave you both on the sub this month? sweet

[silver creek]

Well they both realesed so