industrial-professions

[humble merlin]

Just SC things

[leaden reef]

anywhere know where panels are in pyro i checked a lot of lagrange points nothing

[heady remnant]

How do cargo hauling missions usually go when you get them up in rep?

[vital juniper]

How is mining/salvage in 4.0?

[prime hamlet]

salvage feels good

[drifting cave]

How's the pay?

[prime hamlet]

Best I have seen people get is generally like 400k an hour

but thats just paneling. I dont know how it is on ships

[vital juniper]

Were panels increased?

The number of?

[prime hamlet]

I have no clue tbh. How was it before? I only got into it towards the end

[vital juniper]

?

[prime hamlet]

like 3.23 to 4.0?

[knotty dove]

Ships are RNG aka luck based i had cases in 4.0 that cargo was way more valuable than scraping whole ship

[prime hamlet]

ahh makes sense. I mean I guess its rng based with the size of the panels, but still probably way more consistent of income

[normal bone]

Hey Guys, can anyone help me with a good trading rout for a MSR in Pyro? Is there already a good one? And how is it about ROC mining? Is it profitable in Pyro and dose it work again? 🙂 Many thanks in advance 🙏🏼

[thick folio]

Is stacking 1 scu hauling contract cargo into 8 scu crates no longer a thing?

!tradetools

[jolly dagger]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[thick folio]

^That site above is handy to find what to trade.^

@normal bone

[prime hamlet]

I have a similar issue with salvage. Sometimes you just have to sit there and wait for the desync to catch up

[prime hamlet]

whats everyones fave haulers for salvage? I have been looking at getting a Hull-A but not sure if I should go for something better

I know the freelancer Max is also pretty good, but im not quite there yet

[next temple]

Are there any loadout suggestions at the moment for mining ships?

[wind brook]

Just curious, is there a go to place for ROC mining? Can't seem to find a very recent guide or anything on where to go, and about how much aUEC should I build up before I decide to rent my cutty black and ROC to do the mining?

[prime hamlet]

Not sure, but I feel like the best place would be just hit up a moon and skirt around

[halcyon plaza]

where to mine in pyro? looking for some of those new materials

[halcyon plaza]

when i have swapped out my prospector bags for MOLE bags, can i "save" it by storing the ship, so that when i claim the prospector next time, it will come with MOLE bags?

[spare cloud]

Yes, store your prospector, remove a random component using the vlm, save, reequip, save again, good to go

[pastel flame]

Pyro really put out for mining tonight. 2 prospectors, mole, and a polaris with a roc

[halcyon plaza]

i stored my prospector with new bags, removed the quantum drive, saved, added it back, saved, retrieved the prospector and it came back with 1 upgraded bag and 3 missing bags 😦

[spare cloud]

At least this worked Now you can repeat the process, remove the bag, claim the ship, equip it. 2/4. Repeat, 4/4

[near zodiac]

is prospector mining worth it

[teal ridge]

I’m doing roc mining with the Zeus & I bring two 2SCU boxes & it’s fun so far getting back into the game play and relaxing.. 😎

[pallid talon]

@sonic forum travisss helpp I tried doing hauling but its buggy what do I do

Do I just do mining 😭😭

[crude thunder]

I've been manually buying commodities and selling them to make money while waiting for my hauling contracts to return 🫠

Not enough money to buy a vulture yet.

[pallid talon]

How much are you making per run and what stuff

[crude thunder]

Diamond hauling, was buying 8scu boxes and transport them across Stanton, last run I did 96scu, think I pocketed ~125k or something

[pallid talon]

125k profit or

[crude thunder]

It's a bigger risk though cause I was draining my whole account to buy them, if something went wrong

Profit

The missions would be more profitable if they weren't bugging out

[pallid talon]

How much was you spending

[crude thunder]

~450k

[pallid talon]

oh god

Is there no better options? Like gold or bexalite

[crude thunder]

Probably are, I just knew that commodity would sell

[pallid talon]

I see

Is sc trade tools updated to 4.0 now? Or outdated still and uexcorp

[hidden garden]

I've just been using my vulture for salvage

[hasty lintel]

Is there a quick guide on how to use a ships mining lasers?

[crimson mantle]

We have 4.0 data, as much as people reported them.

[zealous kindle]

IS 4.0 OUT?

[coarse ember]

As a preview that carries over your progress once it leaves purgatory yes

[hollow frigate]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/20341-Alpha-40-Destination-Pyro

[zealous kindle]

Wtfff

[coarse ember]

Been roughly a week but the preview has been painful for both cig staff and players so doesn't suprise me news didn't spread too quick

[pallid talon]

You run trade tools? Or just a name 😭

[coarse ember]

I assume they run it
I think uexcorp also has a discord just not here

[pallid talon]

Thats sick

[zealous kindle]

How does 4.0 affect traders?

[outer ridge]

Do yall know where we can sell RMC in pyro?

[coarse ember]

Also gotta get the funky trade tools working, despite being centered and everything recommended it doesn't like to process the image and errors out as far as I can tell

[coarse ember]

Sears canyon, endgame, patch city and I think last landing

[outer ridge]

youre a legend for that ❤️

[hollow frigate]

new prices, more commodities. But currently broken hauling missions

[crimson mantle]

Yeah, the grime and dirt, plus the glare in some places make it really hard for the OCR to do it's job 😢

[crimson mantle]

They made it so many places don't handle all box sizes anymore. So there are more or less hard routes for small and large ships.

[sharp flicker]

What are the best ressources to mine with roc in 4.0 ? 👀

[humble merlin]

trading and mining eating good right now since contracts aren't working lmao

Underhanded way of CIG telling people to test trading and mining?

[normal bone]

Also interested in that. Best Ressourcen and where 🙂

[zealous kindle]

always breaking something with update

[zealous kindle]

damn that sucks

[pallid talon]

what you doing for trading to make money im interested

[rain shale]

Can cargo be auto loaded/unloaded now? Seems like this is now warehouse simulator

[pallid talon]

uhhhh its buggy

some people autloaded yesterday and their ship blew up lol

[cloud condor]

i have a C2, vulture, reclaimer, prospector and mole
whats the best to make money in 4.0?

[crimson mantle]

Panel salvage is not as profitable as before, but it's still easy money.
Missions when they work are also pretty good now, both salvage and hauling

[rain shale]

How do you autoload?

Only get the option for manual and put it into warehouse

[pallid talon]

not a clue lol

[ocean compass]

missions not working

prob vulture for printing cash

[livid briar]

If you have all of this and are asking the question then maybe you shouldn't have all of that 😬

First figure out if you can multi crew anything..

You kinda need starter money for refining so I'd say salvage panels in yela belt

[sharp flicker]

how to change mode in the roc so i can scrap the materials on the ground?

[safe socket]

Am i doing something wrong? Im trying to detatch my mining laser from the mole after i unlocked my ship and my tractor beam multi tool still wont connect to the mining laser

[coarse ember]

When you buy the commodity your ship has to be

1. Stored in a hangar
2. Set as the location at the terminal you're buying from

[sonic forum]

Bro at present now it’s hard to find something NOT bugged 😫

[pallid talon]

yep

contracts are disabled

qt is hit and miss still

they are "investigating" it

[rain shale]

Tried that but theres just a red sqaure saying invalid inventory

[sonic forum]

3 days without a smooth session by now

I very much miss the EPTU

[pallid talon]

idk how they fucked it up this much when the eptu was fine lol

my friend was driving water and passed out lol

think they broke water also

[sonic forum]

likely the live amount of player, it’s enormous compared to EPTU..

[sonic forum]

I have a lot of problems carrying and taking stuff from my backpack as well

[coarse ember]

Odd, it doesn't seem to recognize your ship

[pallid talon]

i wanna go like do bunkers or something

but idek 😭

no missions

[sonic forum]

Yeah man same here i actually would like to do A LOT
i’m only exploring and fighting with some players since last night. Last contract that was working happened 15 hours ago. Then no markers

Now no contracts

On US servers the QT was working decently, on EU ones it was entirely fucked

[pallid talon]

idek what to do anymore with this game lmao i was excited to play preview cuz it seemed so hype after eptu

now my christmas is meh if i play it

[sonic forum]

Because it was true, EPTU was awesome… except some light issues with some missions and hauling ones not being perfect, dude i farmed money
Literally bunker runs on the ground were almost always there, everything perfect

I had really a lot of fun

Since 4.0 dropped on live preview i NEVER had a complete session 😆

But i get it

Live it’s different so it was expected

Sure it’s a bit worse than what i expected, but still

We can just wait now

[pallid talon]

honestly shit decision to bring preview out before christmas and them be away

should of waited till after christmas

[sonic forum]

I would been happy to keep playing the EPTU no doubts 😆

[sharp flicker]

im in outpost with my roc sitting on a pad but I can't see it from trading screen, how do I sell my hadanite ?

[river helm]

how is ROC mining in 4.0? any changes to staton or any differnt/more worth in pyro?

[pallid talon]

@sonic forum adventures with travis @small galleon

[halcyon plaza]

any cool places to mine in pyro? maybe with new materials?

[mossy radish]

anyone know where to sell roc minables in pyro?

[sonic forum]

This thing with a gunner is pog 😭😭😭😭

Owen is good as a gunner meh!!! I thought he was only an industrial player

[pallid talon]

bru

[sonic forum]

Guy is secretely a murderhobo

[pallid talon]

I used to only do vaughns in 3.24 😭

I had 60mil

[sonic forum]

MURDERHOBO

[pallid talon]

yes

and proud

[halcyon plaza]

are there any refineries in pyro?

[tall karma]

Yup, when I was on EPTU pretty sure both ruin and obituary had a refinery deck.

[pallid talon]

orbitury has one

[shrewd hinge]

Is it possible to combine multiple 1SCU crates into 1 larger crate?

[halcyon plaza]

is it not possible to mine on planets in pyro?

[hollow sedge]

i cant see any scan info, i waited 5 minutes, went to 5-10 deferent locations. any reasons any fixes? something im doing wrong?

[mild basalt]

You can buy an 8 SCU box and fit 1 SCU boxes in it, don't know if you can buy bigger ones.

[halcyon plaza]

found raw sillicon and raw ice in pyro 😮

[cunning agate]

ROC mining feels like it has a lot of potential but I think I’m missing out on some aspects of the process.

[safe socket]

Sometimes shooting them helps or scanning them in scan mode before switching to mining mode, but those workarounds arent fullproof, sometime minables just dont load no matter what for me

[sonic forum]

those wrongfully instanced players are a threat for the whole universe!

[teal ridge]

Where can I buy the Pembroke suit & BackPack 🎒?

[knotty dove]

happened to me at new babbage got yeeted out of hangar 2s after someone spawned into m hangar

[dusky lantern]

Anyone else having mad inventory issues? only happens when I equip a backpack it seems

[sonic forum]

I do have issues looting often. The backpack doesn’t want to open

[dusky lantern]

at least its not just a me issue I guess lol. i was able to access and move stuff around in my inv until i equipped a backpack and now i'm locked out storage and inv completely lol.

Not sure about everyone else, but "pre-hotfix merged" 4.0 Preview ran great....

[sonic forum]

Definitely not only you. If you or someone wants to contribute: https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-147553

not my report

[narrow kettle]

it seems like you cant use backpacks of other players

[coarse ember]

npcs are fine tho it seems, was able to rack up 33k prison merits running around filling my bag then dumping it all into another i was carrying from npc i stabbed up

[dusky lantern]

thats interesting, and i think you're right, i was wearing med armor with a light backpack and my buddy had light armor and bought a med backpack by accident so we switched... and it all went downhill haha. I'll buy another and see if i can ever get the bugged one off my back lol

[narrow kettle]

yeah I can use my own bought backpacks just fine

[mossy radish]

i have some failed contracted cargo. just want to make sure can i do anything with it other than throwing it out?

[coarse ember]

i think you can sell it but it'll sell for very little compared to what it would normally sell for

[mossy radish]

thanks, ill just throw it out

[dusky lantern]

bought backpacks still are bugged for me unfortunately. as soon as i equipped the bought backpack, inventory and storage both bugged out and now the inv windows never pop up.

[sonic forum]

Have the same issue.

[dusky lantern]

i relogged after the first time and my backpack went back to my storage and my other inv worked...until i equipped another backpack haha.... actually, I may just be on a dying server, asop terms are buggin too

[safe socket]

M1 refinery was working for me last night and has better % then any pyro station

[cerulean lichen]

Anyone else have their atlas try to kill them? Like 25 percent of the time when getting in it it starts teleporting around the hangar and usually gets me stuck in a wall

[dusky lantern]

i believe that may be in the "known-issues" list

[cerulean lichen]

Ok at least it’s known😅

I’d hand load stuff but doing multiple 100scu missions would make that a bit tricky

[dusky lantern]

Are you on a patched server? I just figured out that I'm not. It seems like there's a huge backend delay for inventory. I backspaced and it has taken 10 minutes for some of my gear to repopulate in my storage. When I log out to menu, the server acts like i'm still there, like i crashed so I'm character locked. I think that's my issue, which is fine, I'll just try to get into a patched server. But at least contracts show up here

[signal skiff]

What station in pyro rents out vultures?

[prime hamlet]

I dont believe you can rent one

[humble merlin]

Gold, Scrap, Medical Supplies

Whatever is in demand and easy to ship

[cloud condor]

how do i sell at Seer's canyon?

[sonic forum]

Yeah i’m in a perfect server, it’s a US shard. There is a problem with some backpacks. I’m using the core armor to store light loot and the inventory of my Hornet / Guardian to store weapons, and works perfectly

It’s only related to the backpacks from what i see

Not everyone has it but several people, there is already an issue council report with more than 150 upvotes

[pallid talon]

TRAVIS

[sonic forum]

G

[pallid talon]

help me make money

:)

pretty please

[sonic forum]

Join my server and we go bro

[pallid talon]

im in ur server

mister

[sonic forum]

But i need to recover my shit, i got shot down and i had a cool armor

Wanna come with me?

Hot zone, sheperd’s rest

[pallid talon]

oh god 😭

player or?

[sonic forum]

Polaris

[pallid talon]

i invited u to group

bru

[sonic forum]

I was fighting people together with another Guardian, we mocked 2x zeus in a terrifying manner, HUGE interdiction field

Then this polaris arrived

Started killing everyone

Pyro typical day

[simple shuttle]

Hey, is it possible to share cargo missions?

Since there is no share button in the contact

[signal skiff]

Can the argo bags go onto the porspector still?

[coarse ember]

yeah you can still swap em

[worthy wolf]

cargo not showing up in elevators a normal thing rn?

[signal skiff]

sweet thanks for the reply

[glossy peak]

how well does the Hull C work in 4.0?

[sharp flicker]

Where can I buy Pembroke armor to resist high temperatures for ROC mining ?

[pallid talon]

@sonic forum

took a picture of us side on getting shot lol

[humble merlin]

You can't.

[sharp flicker]

Oh... Is there any other armor I can buy for high temp resistance?

[humble merlin]

Pembroke is the only one that goes to 255c

You can still mine in hot climate you just will have to run into your ship to cool down every couple minutes

[sharp flicker]

Why we can't buy it ?

Like, it's sad

[humble merlin]

Good question

I was pretty annoyed to see that it wasn't in any of the shops

While it's on the pledge store

[heady remnant]

why is all of the cargo im supposed to pick up not here?

like theres nothing inside of the warehouse

[crude thunder]

what location are you at? and what does the cargo contract say?

[heady remnant]

Canard view, it was working fine a bit ago

tells me i need to collect stuff from canard view, and deliver it to ruin

[heady remnant]

this person has the same problem then

im just gonna log off

[crude thunder]

I've heard mixed results with the cargo at outposts

just had a severely delayed reaction with the cargo not showing up for 2 minutes at the port of pickup

[cunning agate]

ROC purchasable anywhere other than Lorville?

Lorville is forbidden to me.

[mossy radish]

got no marker to work off once on site. abandon? pays 133k

[cunning agate]

Try to let it expire naturally rather than abandon, is what I have heard people advise.

[mossy radish]

thanks just realized i posted in the wrong subsection

[coarse ember]

hw does roc mining work? will i have to get out and grab the gems or does it suck em up like the multi tool does in prison?

[cunning agate]

The getting the rocks is easy. Yes. You break the rock then switch to extraction mode and suck them into the box in the back of the ROC.

Selling is what has changed since I did it last.

I think.

[coarse ember]

ah cool, so pretty similar to ship mining

[sonic forum]

mmmh...

[coarse ember]

well, its going well mining hadanite on pyro 4

tough egg to crack

[nimble urchin]

What gun you using? Never seen it before

I wish you could sell inert materials. Like cheap cuz they ain’t worth much or at least be able to sort your bags out so you can toss it out and go back for better materials

[sonic forum]

It’s a kitted Karna rifle with a yellowish and blue color, forgot the exact name of it

Very efficient tool.

[raw shell]

how do you sell rmc at seer's canyon?

is there a cargo elevator somewhere?

[pastel flame]

It ain't much, but it's honest work!

[subtle forum]

looked in every building at this outpost and cant find anything

[pastel flame]

I have found some valleys just full of hadanite, like multiple ROCs worth 5 km apart. Lovely.

We were going for big stuff at the time but it was good to see.

[shrewd pasture]

is there any hull-c / bulk trading in pyro?

[coarse ember]

nice, lost it all to 3 random mf in F7As

full roc load of hadanite

i'mma be real once the rc got full i shoulda got the fuck away from planets

i'll toss in the towel for tonight and try again tomorrow

[pastel flame]

Good attitude bro

Lots of bugs and wild degens out there to foil our good time

[prime hamlet]

dang pirates tried to get me scraping

[leaden reef]

where were you at

i scraped for like 2 hrs yesterday and couldnt figure out where to sell. ended up landing at orbituary but couldnt sell there

(in a reclaimer)

map only shows L hangars despite XL hangars being a thing

[prime hamlet]

I was in Hurston just off one of the L stations. And I usually sell at Orison at the TDD terminals

[primal shell]

Reclaimer or vulture

Im out scraping solo rn and dont feel like getting jumped

[prime hamlet]

I do vulture, havent gotten a reclaimer yet

I think they were npcs tbh. I just flew away and they didnt chase

[leaden reef]

i think cig should revert missiles not restocking on reclaim, and make them like 50% cheaper or something because it decreases the amount of murder hobos

[subtle forum]

Anyone know of spots to buy Slam in Pyro?

[halcyon plaza]

looking for info on new minables in pyro and their value

[subtle forum]

only thing new to make money with is Reccite which is around 40% of the value of Quant but 3 times harder to find

[halcyon plaza]

so ice and silicone is not new then

[leaden reef]

scan in scanning mode

[leaden reef]

allegedly pyro has larger clusters of mineables

[cloud condor]

how do i sell at Seer's canyon?

[mild pumice]

anyone know are the Starfarer fuel pods counted in the total fuel available or are they seperate? cheers!

[halcyon plaza]

found my first riccite 😮

[candid bay]

What's a good, working zone for mass hauling contracts atm?

[hasty lintel]

How much does the Prospector make in an hour?

I used the ROC for 3 hours only grabbing hadanite and got about 590k so I'm tryna see if the Prospector is worth

[spring river]

wheres the best place to salvage in pyro

plus where do you sell

[glossy peak]

not sure about prospector but with a mole i can make between 150k-200k every 15-30 mins selling the ores straight to refinery, prospector should make similar money imo

[leaden reef]

is it normal for delivery starting locations (outposts) to not have the commodities in the elevator? i see nothing in inventory

[pastel isle]

Can someone explain to me how to sell my hadanite from ROC mining? I put it all into a SCU box since the ROC wasn't recognized anywhere. Now at the mining outpost, it detects the ore when the box is in the ship, but can't sell because I need to put it into the freight elevator, but once it's stored via the freight elevator, the hadanite in the box isn't recognized anymore.

[crimson mantle]

Once the box is in the inventory, you can "open" the box and move its content directly in the outpost inventory

[pastel isle]

in station and city, I see that, but I didn't know there were storage access booth on outpost, I'll look for them!

[crimson mantle]

Hum not the inventory kiosk, from the elevator itself

I believe it's right click on the box

[pastel isle]

Ho! I'll try that, thanks! since there wasn't the small icon saying it was filled, I didn't understand it was possible to open it from there

[crimson mantle]

Apparently there might also be an inventory kiosk #industrial-professions message

They made it very finicky 😅

[pastel isle]

in the freight interface, it says the box is empty -_-

yeah it's been 3h I'm trying to find a way to sell those, got a lot of bug in hangars...

[pastel isle]

This one looks like it was in a station/city, since admin. A shame, the price is far lower

Found it! Ok, so after putting the storage box with ore in it in the freight elevator, lower it to put the box in the storage, click twice on the box to open it, move the ore to the elevator, close the box (cross top right), move back the ore to the storage. To try next time, keeping the storage box on the elevator (left part part) to open it and directly and only move the inside into the storage (right part).

everything is done from the freight elevator booth.

Thanks again

[worthy herald]

Got a weird question, which ship that is not initially was intended for cargo would be good for cargo ( as in it doesnt have a cargo grid but could shove lot of boxes in it ) and that has decent firepower?
Heard valkyrie could hold more than 100 scu when it only has a grid for 30
Anything bigger?

[cloud condor]

HH

[hollow sedge]

What valuable ores can the ROC mine, and how do I avoid wasting time unloading and reloading it when faced with unmineable rocks? What rocks should i look for.

[cloud condor]

with a ROC: hadenite

if i want to sell cargo at a TDD, can i leave it in my ship or do i have to unload?

[coarse ember]

Like phantom said hadanite, when you ping look for anything 3km or less from you flying at around 1km above ground, preferably with a signature of 5000 or more

[hollow sedge]

a signature of 5000
What do you mean?

[coarse ember]

When you scan the "unknown" clouds after a scan ping it'll throw a number in the top mid of your view showing a number, that's the signature

Similarly panels floating in space have a signature of 2000 so that's what people scraping in a asteroid belt are looking for going off that number

[halcyon plaza]

can i sell refined ore in pyro anywhere or do i have to bring it back to stanton?

[coarse ember]

I think a few spots have refineries, ik orbituary does since I was there last night trying to rent a roc but had to go to Stanton JP station for one

[halcyon plaza]

yeah i meant selling the refined materials

[coarse ember]

Oh, lemme check rq

What refined stuff is it? Helps to narrow it down instead of listing spots that may not take your specific ore

For now I think there's
Starlight service station, endgame, rods fuel, patch city, Dudley daughter, gaslight, Megumi refueling, rats nest and orbituay using beryl as a filler for the commodity section of uexcorp,

[hollow sedge]

how do i scan the unkwon clouds

[coarse ember]

Tap v to enter scan mode then aim at the clouds

[hollow sedge]

what clouds 🙂

I Aim at them,nothing happens, they remain unknown

[coarse ember]

Sometimes you gotta do a slight sweep, it'll only give the signature if it's right on the mineable which sucks

[hollow sedge]

right on the middle

nothing happens no sweeps work nothing

gotta come this close

no 5000 numbers as u said

[coarse ember]

Oh those, I came across granite last night, dunno what those are about tbh

Just ignore those and scan anything that pops up within 3km of you when you do a scan ping

[hollow sedge]

wheny ou say scan ping?

you mean when i click once tab?

[coarse ember]

Yep

Also that doesn't look like a moon with much hadanite, Aberdeen if you have a Pembroke suit to withstand the heat, pyro 4 if you don't have a Pembroke since the temp is pretty mild at -7c

[hollow sedge]

i dont wanna go in pyro right now

i wanna remain in stanton

any other locations ?

[coarse ember]

Other than Aberdeen there's daymar that's supposed to have a high spawn rate for hadanite

Compared to other planets in Stanton

[karmic vigil]

Anyone having trouble buying Penbroke suits today? They don't show on the shop's menu nor they're displayed on the manequin...

[crude thunder]

supposedly they aren't being sold in game currently from what I've heard

[coarse ember]

They don't seem to sell the suit anywhere as far as I can tell, I bought one off pledge store for 12 bucks in store credit

[karmic vigil]

What? 😱

[glossy peak]

Anyone tried using the Hull C this patch?

[karmic vigil]

WIth a game this broke, buying a penbroke suit with real money is not good. You may glitch and lose the suit unless you do a character reset. Bad move, CIG

[hollow sedge]

Just forget it costco

i still have this issue. i am done 100%

[coarse ember]

It wasn't any fresh money at least
Store credit from other stuff I melted that I didn't need

[karmic vigil]

Still, if you are into mining... and crash or go to the center of the moon and lose your suit... you can't get back unless you wait for a patch. These suits are just essential and you can't just be buying Penbroke suits with real money every time you lose one.

I would understand if they raised the in game price of them but not switch them to real money

[coarse ember]

If I can't take the heat of Aberdeen I always have pyro 4 or daymar to try which don't need a special suit to handle the heat but yeah it will still suck when eventually I die outside of a armstice zone with it. There's a workaround but not worth the waiting 24h

[karmic vigil]

Agree. I can't believe CIG is this dense...

THey're killing the ROC mining play loop

[coarse ember]

I like to imagine it's a temporary bug or someone fat fingered a key but wouldn't surprise me if they yanked the suits to try and get people using pyro for something other than violence. No one knows so all we can do is sit here saddened

Trading in pyro seems okay, gold is cheaper in pyro than Stanton but I'd rather just stay in-system instead of jumping a bunch and refuelling frequently

[hidden garden]

with the carrack changes how is it at trading

[bold anchor]

All my salvage contracts are anvil arrows

[coarse ember]

Gotta do a few arrows before it'll give you other ships assuming you're just starting out on salvaging

Imo the contracts aren't really worth it. Flying around a L station scanning for panels to scrape the RMC off or doing the same in yelas belt are pure profit aside from fuel costs instead of spending your money on a ship to scrape

[hidden garden]

yeah I thought they would be giving rewards not fees, but with the fee they are lame

[bold anchor]

i've been doing a ton of them everything from 1000 fee to 20000 fee anvil arrows

[hidden garden]

you get better ones at 50,000

just fly around an L station and get panels

[coarse ember]

Single panels will have a scan signature of 2000 so if they're bunched together it'll be a multiple of that

[bold anchor]

i guess i'll hold my breath some more

forget the panels. i don't really care about the money. it's about the game play loop of doing the contracts for me.

[cerulean lichen]

Anyone else have an issue where your crates for hauling mission are just glued in your ship? I black screened, and when I got back into the game my ship still had all the boxes in it but mission was gone. So I went to remove the boxes but they are incapable of being moved

[hidden garden]

how do you check scan signatures?

[coarse ember]

tap v then bring your reticle/center of the scan ui over top of what you're trying to get a signature from

ground mineables dont seem to be as forgiving while asteroids and panels do give you some leeway on positioning before it gives a signature

[boreal plinth]

does someone know how much a reclaimer full of rmc will give u?

[coarse ember]

roughly 4 mil if its only on-grid stuff (420 scu), throwing stuff off grid should net more

[proven summit]

Hey what am I doing wrong here, I'm new to mining and I cant see the part of the hud that tells you the rock will break

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/82210365147979776/1320819537708580874/image.png?ex=676afc8d&is=6769ab0d&hm=8f1ad84321c4eba8430944362900bdceb384064c91b0e7d1c770eae6635eee2a&

[shrewd hinge]

Thanks

[spare cloud]

You're not looking at a rock

[proven summit]

I was and it wasnt there

Ill go back and take another screenshot

[spare cloud]

Don't crop your screenshots so we don't miss any useful stuff 👍

[hidden garden]

how do I tell where the best places to sell rcm are?

[spare cloud]

You look at !tradetools

[jolly dagger]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[dim igloo]

I wonder how much this will be worth when it’s done, the raw resources could be sold for 89k

[velvet turtle]

are the mole bags working in prospector? or is the dupping gone?

[dim igloo]

the bags are working in the prospector

the UI is kinda funky when you are mining though

gotta enable and disable mining mode sometimes for the contents of the rock to show up

[velvet turtle]

i did ti and the disappeared from the prospector

they* (the bags)

[dim igloo]

Hopefully you didn't have quantanium in them

[velvet turtle]

ah nothing in them

its strange they dissapeared ill give it another try

so its take from the mole ---> put in prospector-----> and store. that should save them on there?

[normal plover]

Hey anyone got a mole I can yoink bags from? Or has anyone figured out a frieght elevator workaround that's consistent yet?

[velvet turtle]

Felvs are still borked from when i checked

[normal plover]

I got close by buying some SCU boxes of waste to get the bag spawn to move around =p

[coarse ember]

finally i get paid for my effort

[hidden garden]

yeah mining is rough with the doing it 1 day and getting paid the next day

[velvet turtle]

thats why you backlog a bunch of them and everyday you have one to do lol

[coarse ember]

yesterday i didnt get paid cause i got blown out of the sky lmfao

[iron star]

does anyone know if Pembroke suits are still available for purchase in shops in 4.0? I went to a couple of refinery shops but there weren't any for sale.

[hidden garden]

is auto loading and unloading worth it?

[spare cloud]

Not if you're salvaging

[hidden garden]

Im doing cargo

the taurus seems a little awkward with it's 3 tall cargo bay

[spare cloud]

If you make sure you use the biggest boxes available, auto (un)loading fee shouldn't be too high

[coarse ember]

they dont seem to be avalible anywhere in-game rn, i had to go and use store credit for one

i'm good on roc mining today so if you'd like i can swing by and drop it off

[pearl juniper]

After storing, open in mobiglass and make a change and save (and then change back and save again). Should save the state that way

[velvet turtle]

sweet and it did work a bit ago

was weird

also mole door bugs are back too

dont go into crew bed area lol

[subtle forum]

Anyone been able to get the Wallace Klim Grimhex drug missions in 4.0?

[lament wigeon]

Does anyone know if Hull-C gameplay is working at all? Like docking/storing/loading-unloading?

[distant osprey]

Worked for me yesterday, cargo deck is wierd though and doesn't show you load/unload timer but it will load the ship

[pastel flame]

Everyone buying Pembrokes when the best roc mining is on daymar and in pyro 😛

Hadanite to the gills.

[distant osprey]

Are hauling missions fixed?

[mighty ore]

Is anyone doing hauling mission in pyro? My reputation has upgraded 2 or 3 levels but i still can only receive 49k auec missions. Is there any higher reward hauling mission in pyro?

[candid bay]

Does auto-load work atm?

[unkempt cove]

Hauling seems still messed up

New bug ig

[crimson mantle]

Still destroys ships 😢

[cerulean lichen]

Anyone tried roc mining in pyro?

[iron star]

thanks for the offer but I'm currently 60ked on login

if i get in then I'll just slum it on Daymar

[candid bay]

F

[humble merlin]

Did someone find where you buy pembroke?

It wasn't in any of the shops around Hurston

But also Aberdeen traditionally has the highest Hadanite spawns

[pastel flame]

Nah

Daymar has always been just as good and way less hassle

Now there's even better in Pyro, like dramatically better

Stanton will be the beginner area for ROC miners

At Daymar go to the shubin facility then go about 40km towards the "north pole" and start scanning out that way, gg

[humble merlin]

I noticed the Hadanite spawns on Daymar seemed to be way higher density (more rocks to break per spawn)

[coarse ember]

pyro 4 is a goldmine for hadanite

[pastel flame]

I've got my spots, they aren't that secret once ppl go scanning around

There's a moon where there's just fields and fields of it

[coarse ember]

tried aberdeen earlier and honestly biggest pain was actually driving the damn thing, it bounces and rolls around like a soft dodgeball it rolled over and refused to sort out so i just took the rest of the hadanite out and logged

[deft robin]

Hey guys. Can I dump RMC/Salvage from my buffer on the Vulture somehow?

[humble merlin]

This is why I stick to flatlands/plains XD

Also my only problem with Aberdeen was the lack of buyable pembroke

Having to run into my ship to cool off every couple minutes

[coarse ember]

kinda sad you cant mine from within your ship, there was a good chunk of hadanite on the side of a cliff but trying to get it with my roc is what forced me to abandon my ship and started the whole roc driving hell

[ocean compass]

this is the kind of problem you try to solve with a tractor 🙂

[ocean compass]

techncially with a ramp, its doable 😛

[coarse ember]

i did, it refused to flip no matter how i smacked the tires around

[ocean compass]

with a maxlift right? not a multi tool i hope

multi tool cant handle that weight

maxlift should bring it up then rotate it using R + mouse

[hasty lintel]

Thank ya

[coarse ember]

that would be the issue, was sitting at 80-ish k and didnt think of spending the 19k for the extra strength lol, was mostly using multi tool just to shove it in and out when it would dip into the ramp

[coarse ember]

i have now collected the list of locations, i will check later when i feel like playing again

[rich root]

Are there any New materials to Harvest with a roc ?

[hasty lintel]

Has anyone taken out the storage pods for mining from an elevator?

Are they supposed to fall through the floor?

[sharp flicker]

is there anyway to convert several small boxes of a commodity into bigger boxes?

[spare cloud]

Has always been like this, bugged.
Always best you find a MOLE and get your bags there instead of buying them

[spare cloud]

Nope

[hasty lintel]

Oh....and where do I find a mole...

[teal ridge]

What moon around Arc Corp is ok for roc mining for Hadanite if possible 🤔

[spare cloud]

You ask a MOLE owner, or you find one in bounties or salvage contracts

[spare cloud]

Check the pins

[hasty lintel]

Does it have to be near arc corp?

[hasty lintel]

I appreciate you, thank ya

[thick folio]

Does mining with the prospector work? I feel like it's probably a skill issue on my end but want to be sure. xD

[hasty lintel]

I'm abouta try it rn

I'm wondering if I can do ROC mining in a Prospector lmao

Is there a button that makes it so you can't move in a Prospector?

I got it mvm

[teal ridge]

Can’t be anywhere hot apparently. No not really I suppose

[hasty lintel]

I went to Aberdeen last night, went to a random area and just flew to where there were no fast travel points

And BAM, 590k uces of hadanite later I sold

[humble merlin]

Daymar is good

[humble merlin]

Aberdeen is hot

You can mine on Aberdeen without pembroke, but it's more of a hassle because needing to run into ship to cool off

[hasty lintel]

they're Roc mining

[humble merlin]

Yes I am talking about Roc mining as well

You will overheat while mining in a Roc on Aberdeen

[hasty lintel]

O word

Yeah I was in a Roc SC or whatever the 2 person one was and I wasn't overheating, didn't know the normal ROC didn't have Ac

[humble merlin]

yeah normal Roc is not enclosed

[hasty lintel]

I can't see the mining rating on the right when I'm trying to laser open a rock

Anyone know if that's normal? Am I supposed to guess when to stop?

[humble merlin]

Can you post a screenshot?

[hasty lintel]

Yeah

[hasty lintel]

The mining bar on the right is gone

on most rocks

This one has it

[humble merlin]

Weird, that rock might just be bugged

[hasty lintel]

It's for a lot of them no lie

I'ma just swap servers

[coarse ember]

the rock in this pic is already mined and just had to be extracted

notice the red icon at the top telling you to switch modes

[hasty lintel]

Dear god

[humble merlin]

lmao

I should probably get familiar with prospector mining

It's the only type I haven't done

[hasty lintel]

I thought it was just a bug or something

How am I supposed to notice tiny red light

[hasty lintel]

Well thank ya

[coarse ember]

no problem, i had the same issue when i first tried mining

also jesus fuck this rock is so hard i've been able to sit here a type with it out of my view

[hasty lintel]

Holy hadenite

[humble merlin]

I've been noticing this, a lot of really tough rocks lately

Or, rocks that are made of playdough and overcharge super fast

[thick folio]

I see your's is working hmmmm

I can't even seem to scan rocks for their contents nevermind mine them xD

Wonder if it's where I am trying to mine

[hasty lintel]

Oh same

Like they appear but they have no hit box

Like they haven't loaded in properly

[pastel flame]

Happens sometimes, alas.

[coarse ember]

well today went well
didnt get blown up and made about 300k

maybe this christmas i pledge a roc as a wipe starter

[keen inlet]

i forgot to take a screenshot but i managed to fit 36 SCU of RMC in my vulture (including the 13 unprinted SCU)

[pastel flame]

Excellent!

100k makes it tough to pledhe one

[coarse ember]

oh they're that cheap? i thought i would've had to keep renting

[pastel flame]

Veeery cheap!

[coarse ember]

well there goes my pledge plan

i thought they would have been more expensive

[pastel flame]

I like to bring 2 in case one fouls

[hasty lintel]

Accidentally overcharged Hadanite ore cause it wasn't showing the meter and my prospector's mining tool and the ore holders blew off and now I'm stranded with a flipped prospector

Man what

[sonic forum]

What’s the in game price of the Greycat ROC?

[pastel flame]

104kosh

[sonic forum]

Only 104k? That’s damn cheap

Ima pick one for myself as well

[pastel flame]

I like to get 2, in case some jank happens with the first one. Connie, 2 scu box and 2 rocs is an evening with a friend, haha

[sonic forum]

I could get 2 as well, good point

[coarse ember]

honestly roc mining is more profitable than i thought and unlike asteroid mining waiting hours, the only wait i have is going to a station or outpost

would grab a ds but dunno if the 2nd seat is laser and pilot just drives or not

[pastel flame]

Some of the new locations have obscene amounts of hadanite in close proximity yeah

[tall linden]

I might have to do the same. I've had really bad luck with hauling and bh missions the past 3 days. Might as well go old school ROC mining.

[coarse ember]

the roc miners have taken over the channel

[hasty lintel]

Where do you mine for your stuffs? I'm abouta go for a Roc but Aberdeen seems too cloudy

[coarse ember]

outside of aberdeen theres daymar in stanton, pyro 4, terminus that are decent

pyro 4 i like best cause the roc doesnt have to deal with the extra heat messing with cooler, it's only about -7c there compared to +200c on aberdeen

[hasty lintel]

Tru

Thank ya

[pastel flame]

Prospector mining has been fun in 4.0 too, both have their ups

Found some cutie quant rocks tonight

[shy coral]

is there a way to complete the mission first haul in system?

[pastel flame]

For Covalex?

[shy coral]

for citizens for prosperity in pyro

[pastel flame]

Hmm not sure!

[shy coral]

do you usually just mine in any asteroid field?

[pastel flame]

I've been exploring every belt and moon I can find, even the executive hangar asteroids and stuff.

[unkempt cove]

How do you sell hadanite from a ROC?

Ive tried putting it in my ships external inventory and even storing it at the selling location

[sonic forum]

Fr tho, i’m having good luck with money but you know Pyro on the ground looks beautiful, so i would really like to do some mining there

[humble merlin]

You have to have it on you

So, in your backpack

What I do is, put it all in an SCU crate, tractor the crate into the airlock from my ship, then run back and forth between the crate and the terminal (like 3 meters) and sell

I don't recommend doing that if there are other people nearby cause they can yoink it

Otherwise I think the crate has to be completely full (1000 gems of the same type) to sell it from local storage

[unkempt cove]

Pain in the ass got it lol

Thank you

[humble merlin]

If you have a big backpack it's pretty quick and easy

You can split stacks to fit perfectly in your backpack and shift click to move them

Example a backpack that has 100k uSCU capacity can hold 100 gems

[proven summit]

Are mining gadgets not working?

It wont let me place it

stuck like this

[vital juniper]

Is renting a prospector finally worth it yet?

[analog patrol]

How exactly do you turn in a freight mission? I picked the stuff up, delivered it to the location. Loaded it into the elevator and send it down. It's not completing?

[pearl juniper]

less than 10scu, extract it, don't need to fracture it

the icon at the tops tells you to change modes as well

[cerulean lichen]

Do you think we will having a mining guide for pyro anytime soon to show best place for what materials, or is it going to take months for a list like that to be made?

[hasty lintel]

i got it, ty ty

[icy island]

anyone know where the ship storage access is in the caterpillar?

[hasty lintel]

like to open doors on the side?

[icy island]

no like to access the personal ship storage. like your backpack inventory but like the lockers on some ships. i cant find any on the caterpillar.

only thing i can find is the gun rack and thats all of the interactable storage on the entire ship so far as i can tell.

despite there being a bazillion boxes all over the interior marked storage all of them are static inaccessible cosmetic crap.

[hasty lintel]

Ohhh

No idea

[icy island]

thus my dilema. lol. i am sad.

[hasty lintel]

One roccy boi

Is that Hadenite?

[pastel flame]

It's all hadanite!

Just heading back to sell from a nice little trip, we both filled about 1k each in our boxes

[hasty lintel]

Eyyy I'm mining hadenite rn

[sonic forum]

What’s the exact process to sell from the ROC? Would like to know more about it before buying one 😆

Also, what’s the typical revenue from a good run?

[sonic forum]

More or less, clearly

[pastel flame]

Take a good backpack. Medium is ok but heavy is better, it will just save you a little time. Cuz what you do is bring a 2 SCU container with you, and move your hadanite out of the back of the ROC into the container each stop.

[jolly ermine]

Anyone having any luck Hull C trading? I bought a bunch of cargo, went to the cargo port and it didn't load my ship. Server died and now im afraid im out the 2 mill

[hasty lintel]

Or 8 scu crate if your gonna be a while

[pastel flame]

When you get to your sell point, put the 2 scu box in the cargo elevator, send it down. Go to your inventory terminal, open the box within your inventory, move the hadanite out of it into station inv. Go to admin, sell

It's not bad to move it with a pack, I do 170 per move

So like twice per stop max

[sonic forum]

Fucking good bro, thanks for the explanation. Very useful. Will try it today, if the game allows me

[pastel flame]

It's a fun little loop. Not the best money, but far from th worst, and not dependent on missions working or anything like that.

Lots of beautiful views.

[sonic forum]

Yeah it’s mostly to do something different every now and then you know

Pyro on the ground is beautiful

[pastel flame]

In like 10 minutes I will post my take and the terminal info

[pastel flame]

Yeah, I find once I break 2000 I start to get cagey

Plus I guess we're in a group so 2-4 ROCS and each person with a box

[sonic forum]

We shall organize a big mining ROC session

Would be quite cool to see

[pastel flame]

Haha yeah, I'll wait til everyone finds the top spots

Then we'll just see eachother all there anyway

[hasty lintel]

Where'd you go to sell btw? I'm about to reach 3k hadenite (I think or else I have dementia)

[pastel flame]

We have a few of these full bois

Came back to Stanton

[hasty lintel]

Sheesh, nice nice

I got 1321 Hadenite and 352 dolivine

Are you supposed to get the left distance bar over to the Optimal tick directly or just over?

[pastel flame]

I go for more or less lined right up

[hasty lintel]

Same

[pastel flame]

Protip, just run it right to the top of the optimal window and go on to breaking the next hadanite rock

Do them all, waiting in optimal window takes a lot of time

[hasty lintel]

Oh word?

[pastel flame]

Yep, and ping your scanner after when you sweep them all up.

ggs

[hasty lintel]

It do be slighter faster but it takes forever to get to the top of optimal

[pastel flame]

Just run it full power, let it top up, then leave off to the next rock. It will crack before it sinks below on its own

[hasty lintel]

It is at full power 😭

[pastel flame]

Depends on the rock, wish the UI wasn't borked so we could see resistance and whatnot more clearly

[hasty lintel]

so lovely

[pastel flame]

Yeah it's so satisfying, haha

[humble merlin]

I love that the game doesn't shit itself when we do this now

I remember before if you tried this you'd wind up in a slide-show

[vital juniper]

Is it worth renting a Prospector yet?

[hasty lintel]

It kinda does to me no lie, but only when the ore breaks and it's only for like 4 seconds then back to normal

[hasty lintel]

Only if you know what ur doing

Cause I tried mining Hadenite in a Prospector and accidentally overcharged and it destroyed my ship so...

[coarse ember]

Stuff like hadanite Aphrodite and dolvine are hand/roc mineables, any ship like a prospector or mole just blow it up from too much power

[vital juniper]

Isn't hadenite a gem?

[spare cloud]

It is

That's what the ROC or hand guns do. Mine gems

[vital juniper]

Yeah

[hasty lintel]

Oh word word

[spare cloud]

Like Costco said, not for a ship

[vital juniper]

?

[hasty lintel]

1951 Hadenite takes me 5 hours Les gooo

[humble merlin]

About 170k credits an hour

[hasty lintel]

Sheesh

I'ma go sell with the 350 dolivine I got as well

[hasty lintel]

350 Dolivine: 41,946
1951 Hadenite: 852,150

894,096 total
Or about 178,819.2 per hour for 5 hours

[mild pumice]

anyone else use this method to load their C1?

[hasty lintel]

Ey it works tho

[spare cloud]

And that's how you get a C1 with ~120 SCU while still being able to crawl out

[knotty dove]

im using ES for hauling Fresh food since i dont have Taurus

[mild pumice]

Easiest one to load with a lot of 8scu boxes is the Corsair buy mine is parked in Pyro now lol

Making good progress thru the hauling ranks, almost experienced again now!

[limber dove]

Anyone know if the mole is working again in 4.0? My mining lasers wouldn't fire on Sunday

[mild pumice]

Oops I forgot about member rank 😄 - The grind starts now...

[knotty dove]

luckly now that i pledged for ships i really like i have no drive to grind so i do hauling mission or 2 then do something else

[mild pumice]

I remember I quite enjoyed making my way through Member rank before but it's going to be a pain in 4.0 as the mission list gets chopped off at around 50-60 entries so you can't see half the missions

I've made a feedback post on Spectrum, there might be an IC but it's more a design issue than a bug tbh

[humble merlin]

It's kind of both

Because it didn't cut off in 3.24

[knotty dove]

well i think its a bug becouse when hauling missions came there were no issues with showing 100+ entries

it was just annoying checking all 100+ contracts for ones you like

contracts should for start only show ones that start at your current location and if you are inspace show all

[mild pumice]

I think just add a filter for players to decide what they see, but yeah the fact the list is cut off is a bug. It is and always was a really bad design choice though

[knotty dove]

tbh im more trading atm than hauling

[mild pumice]

There's a confirmed IC already 🙂

[dawn shard]

man hauling in pyro is really just ripe for griefing , cant even land and pickup cargo without someone shooting my ass dead for no reason

[humble merlin]

Welcome to Pyro

[mild pumice]

yep as we all predicted. Best avoid it tbh it's not a suitable mission type for the location, they should design appropriate missions such as infiltrate and steal or smuggle goods

[humble merlin]

It's certainly do-able but the idea is that you have an escort

[mild pumice]

There's no money in it though, Stanton missions pay more

[humble merlin]

I haven't seen the commodities myself so I don't know.

But I know there are more commodities in general

[mild pumice]

If they added danger money then for sure they'd be worth doing, I understand from an economy point of view there would be less cash available in Pyro but from a gameplay point of view it's unbalanced.

still it's only the preview, hopefully they take on board feedback and address

[orchid void]

Anyone knows any good trading routes to make in a C1?

[knotty dove]

yes, but more people knowing means i will have issue with supply and demand

[orchid void]

alr fine, just tell me that places like shepard's rest in Pyro aren't armistice zones right?

[knotty dove]

i do it in stanton Pyro is to dangerous

[orchid void]

alr

[steady galleon]

what can i do with an avenger titan?

[crimson mantle]

We do our best to keep the website updated. For the C1 there's plenty of neat little routes, but it depends if you're ok loading outside or not, if you like taking the tram to the cities, etc.

[crimson mantle]

Entry level bounty missions, small cargo missions, small scale commodity trading, bunker and on foot bounties

Most of the game really

[steady galleon]

does small scale cargo make good money?

im broke

[crimson mantle]

The missions, when they work, are nice

Just make sure it can fit your cargo grid

Otherwise the entry level ship bounties are 50k/ea, take 5 mins and are super doable in a titan

[steady galleon]

ah ok where can i find those bounties?

[crimson mantle]

In the contract app of your mobiglass (F1)

Just read the description and check it's a ship bounty: there are also on foot ones

[orchid void]

I'm trying a route now let's see if it's worth

Cause I tried picking a bunch of hauling missions but then none of the cargo spawned in my bay heheeh

[crimson mantle]

There's a first mission with a small fee to prove yourself, then it's the very low risk target ones

[steady galleon]

ah okok im tryna get the mining buggy

[coarse ember]

Mm tasty roc

[steady galleon]

dat rocc

[crimson mantle]

Just beware of autoloading: it's been destroying my ship in 4.0

[orchid void]

ye never rly used autoloading

[hasty lintel]

Argo Atlas saves so much time loading and unloading

Can't go out without it

[pastel flame]

Just did a 7 batch of small planetaries, easy 350k@

[mild pumice]

workaround tip for the missions list, kinda... If you only want to see Solar missions go to any of the L stations and you wont see any of the local missions anymore, at least it cuts down the list a bit if you want to do the long range hauls

scrap that I can only see 30 of the available missions. Hope they sort this out soon it basically screws hauling once you go up the ranks 😦

[orchid void]

every how often do commodities gets restocked?

[knotty dove]

i cant say becouse its random sometimes it skips it but next restock is double

[pastel flame]

I just love since they batched them all by type

[mild pumice]

It's just a shame you can't access half of them 😦

However it looks like the ones I want to do are at the top of the list for one location so there's that at least lol. Apparently the massive rep loss for a fail is still a thing, one dude on Spectrum gone from experienced straight back down to ineligible !

[narrow kettle]

which salvage heads do I want on the vulture? 2x abrade?

[mild pumice]

yep that's what I use

[coarse ember]

The tier list goes afaik

1. abrade (best in efficiency and area)
   2.Trawler (large area not as efficient)
2. Cinch (very efficient but pinhole area)

[narrow kettle]

thank you guys. 😄

Not sure if I want to spend that much time on salvaging. The SC experience rewarded me with a blackscreen after my Vulture was full, vulture gone, I'm back at a hab 😄

[knotty dove]

F

[narrow kettle]

alright, SC did something right for once. My vulture (and myself) were "stored" 50+ Gm away from where I was salvaging. Retrieved the vulture, cargo still there

[proven summit]

Anyone know why I cant place this mining gadget on the rock

It wont let me no matter what I try

[coarse ember]

You don't use the mining gadgets that way, you use em with a ship like prospector or mole

Those gadgets then affect the laser coming from those mining ships giving it more strength with a thinner window for error or filter out the extra stuff that isn't useful like inert materials

[narrow kettle]

uh oh, at least with the vulture, there is a cargo dupe bug... bug and not exploit because so far it happened to me through a server error or a disconnect

how do I report something like that? I don't want to put the steps into an IC post, otherwise people start trying how to do that on purpose and we'll get another wipe

[proven summit]

I know, its for my prospector

But it wont let me place it on the rock

Is it like a bug or something else

[coarse ember]

Yeah it has to be used with the prospector, you attach it in your hangar with vehicle manager to the prospector, it isn't a seperate use thing

[proven summit]

No, thats mining modules, the gadgets are for the rock

Im trying to attach a sabir to the rock

[coarse ember]

Okay I had to go check myself
Hold left click to place it where the hologram of it is

[proven summit]

Yeah I tried and it just puts it on my back Im wondering if its a bug I need to report

And when I hold F and hit place it does the same thing

[coarse ember]

Maybe it is bugged, never directly used mining gadgets only the modules. I also blame cig for letting me put mining gadgets in the mining ship instead of a hard no hands only since I'm pretty sure that's something I've done in the past

[proven summit]

Ah okay

Yeah idk why its not working, I found a really good quant rock that I needed the sabir for and no work 😭

[leaden monolith]

When I was mining I always found placing those gadgets was a 50/50 prospect at best.

[slate spruce]

I found that there's often a problem placing stuff in 4.0 in general, not just gadgets. The highlighted item shape simply doesn't show.

[winter flare]

I bought a ton of 1SCU boxes of nitrate at CRU L1's local station inventory because my Hull C didn't register correctly. Is the a way to move these boxes to my ship? If not, can I repackage them in larger boxes to haul with C2 instead?.

[coarse ember]

Not sure if it still works but if you buy 8scu stor* all crates in the freight elevator UI you can drag the cargo into the container when it's open on the left side of the screen

[inner sinew]

Good place to sell processed foods?

[winter flare]

Oh that sounds nice. How do I buy 8scu boxes?

[coarse ember]

You can buy them on cargo decks of stations, grimhex also has them tho the shop is inna odd spot

One of them looks like one of the hab hallways but actually leads to dumpers depot where you can buy the crates there

[winter flare]

Thank you

[somber stone]

hello industry guys, how's mining in 4.0? haven't played since ~3.23.2

is aaron ring still safest bet?

[sonic fiber]

I keep trying to hand mine in pyro but it doesn't seem to do anything. Bugged or feature?

[cunning agate]

If you get your hands on a bunch of ROC minables don’t throw them all into a 2 SCU container so that it contains 2000 gems.

The server doesn’t like that.

[sonic fiber]

Or I guess i can't hand mine on surface. Haven't done it in years

[next temple]

Whats ballpark the largest rock a Prospector can break alone with a gadget?

[slate spruce]

With default Arbor laser? I'd say 7-8k.

[next temple]

Helix and single Rieger 3

[amber delta]

Does anyone knows where is located the admin terminal on Ashland, Pyro V?

[slate spruce]

~18k if it's low resistance and you're basically nose-scratching the rock in weak spots

[sonic fiber]

Well pyro was boring. Not much to do with only and aurora

I'm going back to grinding in Stanton for a vulture again

[sharp swift]

Weak spots?

[coarse ember]

theres spots on mineables where its slightly easier to pump power into than anywhere else on that mineable

idk if theres any visual marker for weak spots though

[sharp swift]

Huh. Does it register on the signatures? Lower resistance?

[coarse ember]

dunno, havent done ship mining in awhile and roc mining the text is too big so it cuts off numbers entirely

[slate spruce]

It doesn't register on the scanner, but if you move the laser beam over the rock, you'll notice a sizzling sound when you hit the weak spot. And the charge bar will rise quicker (and more steadily)

[jolly ermine]

Has anyone had any luck with hull c trading? The station took my money but won’t load the cargo at the cargo dock

[distant osprey]

Worked for me, cargo deck is wierd though. Spam the hail untill you get a green loading zone, then sit in it and wait for cargo to appear. There will be no loading time displayed though

[jolly ermine]

I tried that and sat for 45 minutes but it impounded my ship. Everytime I went to the deck it kept impounding it. Im gonna try again but im worried since I didnt do it for 12 hours i lost it

[distant osprey]

Idk then, i just spammed untill a cube appeared and then went to it and it loaded me. Was no display for loading time or any kind of animation other than the crates popping into existence

It did work for unloading too

[cunning agate]

Anyone else doing mass ROC mining? By this I mean multiple ROCs out on one ship or emptying a ROC’s hopper into a container and staying out for hours at a time?

What technical challenges have you faced?

For me:

1. ROC damage. They tend to fall off of ramps or tip over on terrain or bump into your ship as you load and unload.

2. Interactions with the ROC can injure or kill you. Not Space OSHA approved.

3. Putting a lot of gems into a container can cause problems when you go to open it to move the stones to local storage. What’s the most you’ve put into a container and sent down then opened?

4. Ground station elevators are broken. The best places to sell per UEX Corp are in fact the worst places to sell.

5. Ships shifting and making it impossible to get your ROC (or yourself!) back onto it. Best to mine from inside the ship or on the ramp.

What thoughts on these?

[humble merlin]

I haven't run more than 1 roc yet (since I'm solo 95% of the time) but I did test that I could fit 2 of them into my C1 with some SCU crates for gems

Didn't seem to have much issue loading or unloading the Rocs themselves

The only Roc damage I've run into is when I'm not paying attention while mining and accidentally blow up the hadanite I'm mining

I haven't run into an issue with full or nearly full SCU crates. I have not tried using the elevators though, I just tractor the crate into the airlock and run back and forth between the terminal with my backpack to sell the gems

I have had ships shifting sometimes but not out of reach yet

I usually only mine on plains or fields though I tend to stay away from hills and mountains because ROC has terrible traction/horsepower still

I haven't really tried mining from the ramp

[cunning agate]

@humble merlin Thanks for the expansive reply—good info there. Agreed on the terrain. I wave off plenty of good strikes. Ships will move even with engines off. It sometimes ruins a session.

ROC mining from the ramp. Ships becoming inaccessible drove this adaptation.

[humble merlin]

I should try this for the stuff that's on hills

[cunning agate]

Poke the ramp into the hill below the rocks and let the gems collect there. Some will still fall through but it helps avoid some loss.

I have done some crazy ROC mining with ship support.

[humble merlin]

lol that's a good screenshot

[unkempt cove]

Where is the heat suit sold at?

[fluid raft]

I heard Hadanite was expenisve any ROC miners wanna buy the location of this ?

[humble merlin]

It's not rare enough to worry about trying to buy/sell a hadanite cluster location

[sonic fiber]

Yeah, it's not expensive

Easy to find

[fluid raft]

Oh ok SCtrade-tools said it was like 400k-ish per scu but didnt know like yield off the clusters

never done mining

[humble merlin]

1 SCU is 1000 gems

A cluster has ~100 ish

[fluid raft]

oh damn okay

can you even mine like 1000 gems in a reasonable time?

[sonic fiber]

I would say no. It's a lot of work.

[humble merlin]

You can get 150-300k credits an hour if you are lucky with spawns and the rocks aren't all super tough

[tidal field]

Good mole loadout?

for 2 people

[distant osprey]

Whats the difference between a roc and an roc-ds

Other than the second seat

[humble merlin]

I think the Roc DS is enclosed so you don't have to worry about hot or cold environments

It's bigger

[hasty lintel]

Jesus Christ

[hasty lintel]

ROC DS has 2x the storage

[hasty lintel]

Theres a few extra zeros on the site

It's like 437

Per 1

[humble merlin]

I just saw this, but you can't buy it right now for some reason

It was sold at lorville before

[hasty lintel]

Can you not buy weather specific armor anymore?

[humble merlin]

You can still mine in hot climate, you'll just have to run into your ship to cool off (or use a Roc DS)

[humble merlin]

You can, but for some reason Pembroke is just gone

[hasty lintel]

What about other ones?

[humble merlin]

Oh I stand corrected even Novikov is gone

[hasty lintel]

Aw whattt

[humble merlin]

They might be locked behind something in Pyro

Which is... odd

Dunno though

[pastel flame]

Yeah very easily but you need to know where to go and how to break quickly.

[pastel flame]

It's shit, driver isn't same as laser operator and the laser isn't enclosed, unless something changed, lol

They recently got asked that in a q&a, will the ds ever not suck

[humble merlin]

Yeah I've never used the DS just because of it being bigger XD

[pastel flame]

No benefit

[humble merlin]

I heard they plan to rework the ROCs at some point and make the single seater enclosed and have the DS have both seats enclosed

Can't remember what CIG vid it was

[pastel flame]

Someday...

But ya, ROC DS is a trap sadly

Only downsides for now

Fuck off bud no gm here

[humble merlin]

!gm

[jolly dagger]

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[humble merlin]

Oh just noticed

He spammin it in multiple tabs

[pastel flame]

Degens

[humble merlin]

He got insta'd lmao

[pastel flame]

We have quick mods.

[marble crater]

Can the Mole cargo pods come up on the cargo elevator now? Used to clip through the floor

[pastel flame]

Nope

Still same prob, they know but

[cerulean lichen]

I heard pyro 2 has lots of caves to hand mine in? Are those easy to find?

[pastel flame]

Cave mining is the one mining thing I haven't gotten into yet! Curious too about janalite

[near swallow]

Supposedly that issue is internally considered a "critical" issue to fix, but of course most of the company is off for the holidays.

[cerulean lichen]

Let me know if you find any caves. Pyro is definitely going to be my roc mining and hand mining system :p

[steep hamlet]

How profitable has prospector mining been for you guys?

[marble crater]

making around $120-$180K per run, not great but not terrible. I only have the stock 32scu bag setup at the moment

minus around $15k for refining

[cerulean lichen]

I have yet to locate any caves in pyro. Think they may be a rare thing😑

[leaden reef]

There are missions that lead you to cave entrances

[humble merlin]

When they work

Do they work in Pyro?

Not working in Stanton

[hasty lintel]

Is there a more profitable way of mining with a Roc or am I gonna have to keep grinding out to 31 million with just Hadenite?

[cunning agate]

There is no commodity minable with a ROC that is more valuable. If you are approaching your 31 Million credit goal with your only tool being a ROC keep grinding.

[humble merlin]

I've heard it recommended to rent a prospector once you have enough but I haven't touched prospectors yet so not sure

[hasty lintel]

I have a Prospector but it doesn't feel* profitable

Mainly due to the waiting of the refiney and how quickly it fills up

[cunning agate]

Everything is profitable. The issue is patience. If the game isn’t enjoyable enough that the journey is pleasant then that’s a problem.

[hasty lintel]

Sun Tzu

[cunning agate]

“Profitable enough” is probably what you mean.

[hasty lintel]

Yes

[cunning agate]

Prospector mining is a vibe. Get some tunes and chill into the work, I guess.

[hasty lintel]

Yearn for the mines

[cunning agate]

31 Million is a lot of money. Too much to grind to doing something boring in my opinion. And I hope 31 Million remains a lot of money.

[hasty lintel]

Guh

Facts tho

Otherwise, whats the point of the grind right?

I'm really just saving up for a Reclaimer

[cunning agate]

Imagine grinding to get to a destination where the game play is mediocre.

[hasty lintel]

I'm mainly doing it so I can get my friends money without them having to worry about being broke

[vocal cradle]

ORION TO porlais what do you think

[hasty lintel]

They're good at PvP, so money for armor and guns is something they don't have

And there's a lot of people wanting to do salvaging in a Reclaimer so I can keep doing it and keep getting more money

[cunning agate]

Not saying the game play on the Reclaimer is bad. Could be better—I wasn’t impressed with the dissolving ship visual.

And that’s an interesting reason—that can serve as motivation for the hard times in the grind.

[cunning agate]

You’re deciding on war not industry at that point I guess.

[hasty lintel]

first rock i see is Quantanium; 27% of 180 scu and i cant grab it cause prospector too weak

[pastel flame]

[coarse ember]

ik from earlier today theres mining gadgets you can place on the rocks to modify their stats but rn they seem bugged so the "place" doesnt actually work and show the hologram placing it

also the weak points sizzling sound cue on mineables and bar going quicker/more steady are helpful too

[humble merlin]

What's the stock mining laser on prospector?

Arbor?

[coarse ember]

yeah arbor mh1

[humble merlin]

Does quant have a specific signature?

Doing research on it seems like, kind of, depends on the asteroid/deposit type

But no guarantee that it will spawn in that asteroid/deposit

[winter flare]

I'm so confused by cargo missions & the Hull C. My understanding is that once I've accepted the mission, I should approach the pickup point & call the Cargo channel. Except I never see the Cargo channel when I arrive! Is there anyone else having this problem?

It locks me out of doing any cargo hauling with the Hull C...

[hasty lintel]

dawg i cant 😭

Took me like 6 mins tryna figure this scanner out broo

[next temple]

Are the Mole loadouts from 3.24 still viable for 4.0? Gonna be flying solo most of the time.

[hasty lintel]

Not much has changed for mining IMO

[next temple]

So safe to use any of the pages with those "old" loadouts? Just trying to maximize capability and not waste any credits unnecessarily.

[hasty lintel]

Anything with 3.24 really

That's what I'm rockin

[knotty dove]

gotta love accepting 3 hauling missions then have no cargo appearing at least submiting does not couse rep loss

[fair cloak]

Anyone doing Hull C hauling Missions?
And if so, Are they working????

[vapid bronze]

is mining with the prospector working for anyone else? 2.5 hours and nothing i cant scan or do anything with rocks\

[hasty lintel]

Anyone find a good Roc Mining location in Pyro?

[hasty lintel]

Anyone here had their ship blown up or something?

Sad sight on Aberdeen

[knotty dove]

Just 5 min ago someone tried to blow up my cat luckly countermeassures did their job

[hasty lintel]

Eyyy, but dam, the pirates be out here

[leaden reef]

Scan in scan mode

Not mining mode

[leaden reef]

All the time in pyro

Which is why I'm swapping to xenothreat because all the griefers grief cfp mission sites

[hasty lintel]

ONE Hadenite blew up and now my roc is gone ffs

[hasty lintel]

Facts, I landed once and got attacked by a damn Polaris. I ain't going back there

[halcyon plaza]

i have mined and refined ore in pyro, can i also sell the refined materials in pyro anywhere or do i have to bring it back to stanton?

[tribal goblet]

Does the Cargo grid in the Tumbil Cyclone work? Tried the Ursa earlier and no luck

[hasty lintel]

I don't know of a vendor that takes ore in Pyro, might need to take to Stanton

But that's only my information

[halcyon plaza]

not selling ore but refined materials, but i think it's the same for that

[hasty lintel]

Oh word word

[craggy tapir]

Yep

[hollow sedge]

any suggestions where do mine meteoride & what to mine

[hollow sedge]

what ores to mine? wich sells the most?

[distant osprey]

Buggy but they worked for me

[winter crypt]

whats the best location near microTech for salvage?

[vestal ravine]

I am going to Pyro 3 first. Someone said so much Hadanite spawned it was off the charts.

[spare cloud]

Yela belt

[pastel flame]

There's a few places like that...

[pastel flame]

Mic L2 for panels

[quiet atlas]

hows mining currently i had fake minable rocks ALOT

[winter crypt]

thanks mate

[pastel flame]

Consider checking out Pyro too, I like to salvage out of Starlight Station sometimes.

[pastel flame]

Yeah that seems worse on some moons than others anecdotally I found Monox to be the worst

3/4 sometimes

But mining itself is pretty damn fun

[winter crypt]

whats the closest sellingpoint to that?

[quiet atlas]

always fun i been on bloom alot alll Rocks bar a rare lone one all broken and that was too big 😦

[pastel flame]

Starlight itself will buy at 10k. It's about 600 uec less per box than the TDD, but a lot less hassle to sell as well!

[pastel flame]

That sucks, you have my sympathy. May I suggest Terminus belt near Ruin for Taranite

[quiet atlas]

anyone tried Buying the mole containers yet or are they still bugged in freight Elevator

[pastel flame]

Bugged

I got mine from a mole bounty target

[quiet atlas]

i will try in ty

if u buy the container they sink into the freight elevator and bugs it out

ive not seen a mole bounty for ever 😦

[vestal ravine]

Well I loaded up a C2 with a ROC DS and a Medivac in search of Pyro 3. And upon arriving in the system I do not see a Pyro 3 planet. I am on Pyro 1 however and it's 222 degrees outside but I am wearing the Pembroke suit. This planet is mostly blue colors and I will now search for some Hadanite which spawns in hot environments.

[pastel flame]

My advice is to cruise various moons of pyro til you find straight hadanite strikes

It's there

[quiet atlas]

hadanite is for Roc mining ive a prospector 😦

[pastel flame]

Oh ya, take my advice there man, Terminus belt

Taranite, bexalite, gold, quant

right next to the best refinery in pyro

[quiet atlas]

Ruin is best

[pastel flame]

You will find Riccite and Stileron elsewhere, but i've never come across one small enough to crack in my prospector solo

[quiet atlas]

gonna check it out now ty

[vestal ravine]

Okay will give that a shot also.

[leaden reef]

Does starlight station support xl hangars

[distant osprey]

Best roc loadout?

Or anyone with that ore mining chart?

[coarse ember]

this one?

also pinned message if you scroll down a bit #industrial-professions message

i think this is the most recent ones? i vaugely remember a old monstercat video going over pyro mineables but at the time it was just properties like resistance and not location or spawn stuff iirc

[pastel flame]

Stock

[quiet atlas]

Prospector mining isn't firing WTF

[pastel flame]

scan mode?

[quiet atlas]

Got it ship power management sets to zero when I log in

Is the new stileron stuff tier 1 ore

[still mauve]

nvm all i need is to complain

[distant osprey]

Lol

[still mauve]

now stuck on loading simulator xd

[near swallow]

Location data and stuff is all server side now, so he can't datamine to get that info. Have to figure things out the hard way.

Er, I could be wrong actually

https://redmonstergaming.com/2023/11/03/pyro-mineable-location-data-now-available/

Oh, that was old data

[coarse ember]

yeah that was i was referring to but in video form
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7xyZuBiBtY&t=560s&pp=ygUOcHlybyBtaW5lYWJsZXM%3D

[near swallow]

That's from 2023 though, so it's old data. Here's a more modern clip of him talking about mining and the 4.0 codebase: https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxR8gNDk5qsRjF73Ixb-CXRCeyQDZXbBzs

[coarse ember]

ah so it wasnt just his stuff that got canned by the move, it made others stuff even more difficult too with the cs finder example

would be nice to have it client side again but i dont really see that happening

[near swallow]

Universal item finder, UEX, SC-Trade Tools, they all rely on people submitting data to them in order to keep their information up to date. The same is true with mining now, except there's no easy way to report data, and I don't know if he will be trying to collect that data and put it into some sort of usable format.

[pastel flame]

It's fun actually prospecting.

[coarse ember]

by moving it from client they added exploration to mining

[near swallow]

I don't have any mining ships in 4.0, since my Mole got wiped. I'm also not particularly interested in trying to mine in Pyro.

[coarse ember]

is kinda fun but sometimes i just wanna go mine and make a quick buck without hunting

so far only thing in pyro that gives me reason to go there for mining is hadanite and i could find that in stanton just not as often

[near swallow]

There are supposedly some even more major changes coming to mining, but nobody knows when.

[pastel flame]

That info was off, in the sense stileron and riccite are already in the game

[near swallow]

Back in 2023 they weren't in game yet

[coarse ember]

i have yet to find or hear of anyone finding either

[near swallow]

That's the most recent pyro mining info

Did a little search, and at least one person who posts here has found riccite.

But as CIG has said, it's supposed to be more rare then quant

Other people have been saying riccite isn't worth as much as quant too, but I don't know for sure

[pastel flame]

Oh, thought it was cited as recent, didn't look too close

[pastel flame]

Us

It's not worth as much but it's not unstable

[near swallow]

The person I found in my search was arex :b

[coarse ember]

found decoupleds post

oh apparently mack found some at one point too in eptu

[cunning agate]

Stileron and Riccite.

Found on the last day of EPTU.

[coarse ember]

ooo

[ocean compass]

i just died last night

ATLS just wtf me

starts teleporting when i entering it, i found myself in a enclosed space in the station with no exits. exit to menu and back brought me back in that same space but server hopping brought me back on station. 2nd try ATLS straight ups kills me

[lament wigeon]

The only place I’ve found decent clusters of Hadanite so far is Pyro IV. Terminus had it all over but only in clusters of 1 from what I saw

[pastel flame]

There's a whole moon rife with it

Honest work!

[lament wigeon]

I guess I missed a moon? Every one I went to only had dolvine clusters or single hadanites

[winter flare]

Cargo only seems to work at major stations unfortunately. 😦

[coarse ember]

pyro 4 has decent hadanite cluster amounts last i checked, on my list of alleged high hadanite spawns is also
ignis (pyro 5e)
terminus (pyro 6)

[lament wigeon]

ok yeah Ignis confirmed, clusters everywhere. On Terminus, I flew around to various biomes and could only find single rocks, no clusters