industrial-professions

[pastel flame]

The two best ways to unload that thing right now are to take everything off the grid and blow it up, or jank the boxes out the horribly designed ass end

Buddy isn't doing either of those, or auto unload, in 10 minutes, nevermind the whole crunch and travel.

It's fantasy

[near swallow]

And I tried it for RMC (1 SCU of RMC in a Vulture) just to see if it would work.

But that was a while ago

[pastel flame]

Even with a fantasy auto unload that works and is instant he's not doing it in 10 minutes

[near swallow]

Oh, and the rear "exit" I think is not actually intended for unloading, I think it was meant for loading bits and pieces of ship into the Reclaimer

[pastel flame]

Right, unfortunately that's the next best way besides blowing it up and having your hangar full of trash.

[near swallow]

The platform that drops down is meant to run along rails on the bottom of the Reclaimer

[pastel flame]

The reality is no part of the reclaimer cargo was well thought out with the refactor

And it needs that attention badly to be fun to use

Hoping for a side load but literally anything would be better than now, just give us a hole that's at least 8scu big

[near swallow]

Reclaimer needs a lot of work, but I'm not expecting it to get it anytime soon, not until they're doing like salvage T1 or something.

[pastel flame]

Alas, neither am I.

It's such a cool ship, and you never know, the Carrack recently got a nice little cargo refactor itself!

[near swallow]

A half-baked one, but it's something

Makes the Carrack a little worse then the Cat for cargo

But better then it was

[pastel flame]

Yeah, usable.

To me right now, I consider the Reclaimer unservicable because of that cargo bug. You can work around it but it sucks ass.

[sonic forum]

C2 ramp fixed in the new EPTU build! TIGHT TIGHT

[pastel flame]

OHHH FUCK YA BUD!!!!!

Herc is back on the menu

[sonic forum]

T I G H T

[pastel flame]

That is H U G E news.

[sonic forum]

This is big!

[near swallow]

Assuming the fix actually works

[pastel flame]

Yes, assuming! haha, good point.

Still. That's huge.

I can fly something other than the Taurus and feel like i'm at my best in cargo

[near swallow]

I don't have a C2 in EPTU, and the one I have on Live won't survive 4.0.

[pastel flame]

Orbital marker issues persisting, but I don't even care right now, haha

[pastel flame]

Same, always an in-game buy for me, but now I can buy one again.

[near swallow]

I bought my C2 at the end of 3.22 (along with my first Reclaimer) before the price jump

[sonic forum]

Yeah that’s a game purchase for me as well. I actually miss a huge cargo ship in my pledge fleet right now

[near swallow]

I now also have a Reclaimer from my Ironclad CCU chain, I stopped at Reclaimer when wipe was confirmed.

[pastel flame]

🙏 🙏

[sonic forum]

Here we gooooooo

[near swallow]

Hopefully the "further fixes for repositioning player" will fix the issue I recently had, where a server error while in an elevator caused me to get moved and then stuck on repositioning player afterwards.

[pastel flame]

This one happened to us frequently doing 2 prospectors in a polaris last night

So that's real nice

[near swallow]

Didn't happen with a Carrack/C8/Ursa a couple patches ago

Tried it partly to test that, and partly to see how it handled a jump. (Smooth.)

[wind pilot]

oof

[cunning agate]

Yeah exactly. There is a product in game with a 100% loss guaranteed, and no fix likely in any near term.

[near swallow]

I've heard C2 is not fixed

I once managed to get 1 Mole bag out of a freight elevator. Out of like 6.

[wind pilot]

seems so

[pearl juniper]

It's not 100%. I have heard if you bring up 2 at once, you have a decent chance of getting 1 of them 🙂 So maybe a 75% loss guarantee? Yeah, it's broken and it sucks.

[cunning agate]

That failed for me every time I tried it in 4.0

[pearl juniper]

damn. I only tried bringing them up the elevator once back in 3.24.0 I think. Since then I just pulled them off a mole

[sonic forum]

Feedbacks i’m seeing in the EPTU are not the best ones… seems like C2 is not fixed

[near swallow]

Also found a strange minor bug with the Mole, or at least it's front turret.

If you turn the front turret all the way left or right and then go from looking up to looking down, along the way you'll see this phantom MFD. (Think MFD casting isn't working right.)

[pastel flame]

Attention is on it so either way it's good news...

[sonic forum]

I agree, yet I haven’t tested it myself and i still need it, because i do not really trust the comments i saw on the EPTU global chat. People there likes to cry for everything

Maybe someone in here can test it when possible?

[near swallow]

Don't have a C2. I have heard it might work if you open the doors from the pilot seat though.

Er, at least I don't have one in EPTU.

[hasty lintel]

Are there Asteroid Mining ships?

[wind pilot]

yeah its the regular mining ships

Prospector and MOLE

Then you have 2 still in Concept (that we know of), like the Arrestra and Orion

[hasty lintel]

Which one holds more?

[pearl juniper]

Mole is bigger. Best run by 2-3 people, although you can solo it

[hasty lintel]

Bet ty

[sonic forum]

@small galleon dude i hope you tried 4.0!

[small galleon]

No I haven't! Why?!

[sonic forum]

You would love it in my opinion, but i’m sure you will try it on live very soon

[small galleon]

What are you liking the most about it?

[warped robin]

after doing the hull scraping, what do i do?

i broke the ship into pieces then what

[small galleon]

Dont leave me hanging like this dammit @sonic forum

[cunning agate]

Mining by (dying) star light.

[cunning agate]

Riccite

Stileron

[wind pilot]

And how much do you get for it?

[ornate halo]

This might help https://uexcorp.space/commodities/info/name/riccite/

[pallid talon]

[sonic forum]

I was sleeping ahahahahahah
Well since we are in the industrial channel, i love the fact that during an hauling mission i got killed immediately. In Stanton an aggression from other players was an optional risk, on Pyro that’s almost a certainty.
So it has made hauling, smuggling drugs, salvaging and mining a real challenge, big risk / big reward.

[wind pilot]

More like big risk, small chance of completion

[sonic forum]

That’s right!!! And honestly i like it!!

[wind pilot]

Good! I would hate that.

That said, I would start planning routes. Not immediately going into orbit but travel in atmosphere for a little before going to space

[pallid talon]

What ship was you using

[sonic forum]

A Cutlass, but i got killed when on the ground, took a round between the eyes from someone camped there

At night that place is incredibly dark

You don’t see shit

[pallid talon]

Camping hauling missions what a freak

Smh

[sonic forum]

At this point i would be surprised of the contrary, lot of people camped on the ground, and if they are not camped once you see them they will attack you on sight

That’s why usually i shoot first but i saw also cool things

Sometimes found other players and we helped eachothers unloading the ships quickly

Very cool

[pallid talon]

Yeh i’d be helpful

Not a bastard smh

[sonic forum]

In short, the awesome thing about Pyro is that there’s life everywhere, forget about abandoned outposts, once you land you will see other people / ships flying around and doing things

It feels populated, it’s awesome

[tired inlet]

500 player shards help with that. Big step towards a living verse

[safe socket]

Is riccite all over pyro or is there a particular place its located

[pallid talon]

whats the performance like and bugs though

[sonic forum]

Performances WAY better than live, way more enjoyable, bugs? There are, of course, but IMO nothing game breaking at all. At least for my play style

[near swallow]

New Babbage hangars seemingly not opening is fairly game breaking to some. And while it's fixed now, the doors on Stanton outposts were broken for a while, which would have messed up some commodity trading options.

[sonic forum]

I’ve never been to new babbage not even once during the last week on 4.0 but everywhere else i NEVER experienced doors not opening. So i’m not sure about it. I was in Grim Hex, several Stanton stations, ALL the Pyro stations. Baijini Point, Everus Harbor, Orison, Seraphim.

[near swallow]

I've seen a bug elsewhere, possibly at a Lagrange point station, where the hangar doors did open but did not appear to open. But I only saw that once. That might be what was happening at NB. That said, I also had issues with hangar doors not opening at NB when the IAE build was up on PTU. Rented a Polaris on PTU and couldn't fly it, because the hangar doors wouldn't open.

My theory about the doubled doors, is that the players may have been seeing another person's hangar doors.

[sonic forum]

Well we are here exactly to test so no doubts that everyone found different problems. That’s fair. The only game breaking bug that i’ve found (and it’s not happening to everyone, because probably hardware related or something similar) it’s a weird crash to desktop, error code 3221225617. Already reported and confirmed on the council, still unclear wtf that is

Apart from this, the rest for me worked

[pearl juniper]

I have experienced this off and on over the last few months. I THINK I may have been breaking my hangar by calling a ship while another ship was in the process of being stored, but I'm not positive on that. If you mean double doors = opens on blank wall. Doesn't look like doors, just a gray wall.

[near swallow]

When I've called a ship while storing another ship, the ship I called didn't make it onto the elevator, and might end up at the bottom of the shaft.

[pearl juniper]

yeah, that too

[sonic forum]

I’ve found the gray wall in live more than once, luckily never in EPTU. That was balls breaking, not even game breaking

[near swallow]

By double doors, what I saw were hangar doors that did not visually open even though I heard them, but would suddenly change to hangar doors closing. Not a gray wall, that I haven't seen. Just black elevator shafts, but that's another issue entirely.

[pearl juniper]

yeah. And it broke that station for me for 24 hours or so until the hangar reset. Only thing I could do was backspace to another location

[sonic forum]

I remember solving the gray wall somehow, but i totally forgot about what i did

I think that at some point i just flown through it and it worked

[near swallow]

Calling a ship while storing a ship didn't break a hangar for me, I just stored the called ship and called a new one.

I have also seen ships not be recognized by ASOP as being on the elevator pad, but that's not new.

[sonic forum]

This on live happened often. Way less on EPTU.
Lorville was the worst

9/10 times the ship was not recognized

Terrible

[near swallow]

I've also seen a refuel/rearm/repair screen bug, where the screen may show up and vanish. Workaround: Switch to Vehicle tab and back.

[sonic forum]

I absolutely confirm this on EPTU

Annoying as hell

[near swallow]

I am glad they fixed what I think were network related FPS drops, especially at the jump gates. It got so bad at Stanton Gateway one day it caused a CTD.

[sonic forum]

I had a BIG crash on the jump gate as well

For the first time i got 2 fps and my pc is not a low end one

Now it’s the smoothest experience ever

Absolutely awesome, i go there often only to jump again and enjoy it

[near swallow]

Just before the crash, I had 0 FPS. Never seen that before.

[sonic forum]

Ahahahahaha I experienced the same. I was going a bit crazy, thought it was an hardware issue on my side? Then i saw that everyone was having problems

5 days ago it was terrible, i’m very happy about the current state

[crude thunder]

I haven't done this yet but a friend has.... once you buy cargo and it gets added to the port/station it normally gets pulled up cargo lifts. But for something like a Hull series you use the Cargo load/unload, If you mess up and buy cargo the wrong way is there a means to transfer that cargo automatically to the ship or is that on the pilot to manually add it now?

[grizzled kelp]

I have a question for y'all

So I'm wondering if commodities and resources stored in the freight elevator/local inventory will carry over from patch to patch (ones that don't have a wipe)

[sonic forum]

4.0 live 12 hours from now, ima see you all on Pyro 💕

[pastel flame]

Hell ya!

[pastel flame]

No

[icy imp]

Hey I wanna do that thing where you move all your stuff to another station but I've never done that before

I have to put it all in boxes now right? Ships don't just have inventory anymore it's just what you can cram in there?

[sonic forum]

Yes, ships do have an internal inventory. However, you need to fill it up manually. Which is not the most comfortable option

Buy some storeall containers, fill them and use em to move all your stuff

[icy imp]

I can't just move stuff straight to my ship with the elevator?

How do I access the ship's internal inventory now? Wouldn't it need an item bank terminal inside?

[sonic forum]

Basically yes you can. However some items could get bugged into the elevator, so move stuff at your own risk.

The ship internal inventory is in different places, depending on the ship. What do you fly?

[icy imp]

I guess in this case it's for the live release and if there's a wipe I'll only have my cutter to do this

[sonic forum]

Cutter got a quite cool inventory. It’s on the right side of the cockpit door (not into the cockpit, but into the living space)

If it’s a standard Cutter, literally attached to the bed.

[icy imp]

woah never noticed it

but if I'm moving big stuff like ship parts I'd have to tractor them into the ship then drag them into the popup window from that screen? That'd be the only way besides putting it all in boxes?

[sonic forum]

You want to install ship parts into the cutter OR moving ship parts from one station to another one?

[icy imp]

moving stuff

[sonic forum]

Attach the components to the rear cargo grid. If you cannot attach weapons, DO NOT move em with the cutter. They will disappear. Everything above size 3 will never reach your destination. A lot of size 3 weapons will disappear during quantum. Components that are not weapons will be fine only if you can use the cargo grid to fix em

[icy imp]

I can attach loose ship parts to the cargo grid?

[sonic forum]

Components will get attached, that’s affirmative

Weapons got a problem getting attached to the cutter

Maybe some size 2 weapons will do that

[icy imp]

But they're just shaped like what they are at that point right, ship parts don't magically turn into boxes like other stuff?

Can I put stuff straight into a ships internal inventory with the cargo elevator? Or is the terminal the only way?

[sonic forum]

You have no ways to put stuff directly into the ships inventory. That has to be done by hands.

[icy imp]

I guess most ship parts other than weapons are already basically cube-shaped. So you're saying for example I can just put my old Qdrive and shield onto my cutter's cargo grid?

[sonic forum]

Affirmative, you can. But once you try, you will discover that they do not work exactly like containers that contain commodities, for example.

Attaching components to the cargo grid is always a bit weird. The space is not used on an efficient way, at least not with all the ships.

[icy imp]

So that's why most people put them in boxes

[sonic forum]

Basically yes. Storing boxes is ALWAYS your best option.

[icy imp]

What size box should I use? Can the multitool tractor and maxlift both move the same size boxes? What's the biggest I can move without a ship's tractor?

[sonic forum]

Size 16 can be moved with a single hand multitool, but you start to feel the weight. Size 24 and 32 can be moved only with the maxlift (rifle size tractor beam) or a ship fixed tractor beam

To move your personal belongings, it depends on how much stuff you have but USUALLY a size 2 container is enough. If you want to be sure, get a size 4

To store ship components? Not sure. Never did that.

[icy imp]

ok thanks

[sonic forum]

[icy imp]

Looks like only 1 scu will snap to the cutter anyway

[pallid talon]

wait what

who said that

[sonic forum]

Official CIG statement!

Well actually now it's 10 hours basically

[pallid talon]

but i still havent done phase 4

omg

[sonic forum]

oh so you missed what is happening

[pallid talon]

wa

[sonic forum]

3.24 will NOT disappear today

you still have time to do phase 4

[pallid talon]

oh

so whats this then

im lost

[coarse ember]

4.0 and 3.24.3 run at the same time and they keep the event running over the holidays so you can still finish save stanton

[pallid talon]

so 4.0 is gonna release new years then

whys it delayed

[coarse ember]

in a few hours 10-12

they said it' be a late one us time

[coarse ember]

it still has some major broken stuff so 24.3 is staying up so people can still play something outside of 4.0

[pallid talon]

ah

[coarse ember]

if all goes well any progress in the 4.0 preview will continue between the fixes and patches they push out after the holidays

[tall linden]

With the preview announcement, time to grab a Prospector with store creds. Finally a reason to play again.

[coarse ember]

i'm gonna have a grand time running bunkers until i can afford a vulture lol

prospector/mole for me is a bit too much waiting for refining

[crude thunder]

I've thought about prospector game play but I've heard quite a few horror stories on here about the mining bags and elevations

[sonic forum]

No worries costco i got your back you’ll find me in Sheperd’s rest patrolling around (usually on foot but with an Hornet during the weekend and Christmas included) you just have to handle me an HOTDOG while there and i won’t shoot! Also, i will cover you!

[livid briar]

Best (functional) industrial profession in 4.0 prview? What missions aren't working, I didn't play EPTU?

kinda feel like staffing up a reclaimer is still teh way to go

[wind pilot]

don't take the bags off, easy.

Store the ship, go to refinery, make order, go back to mining.

[crude thunder]

It's still sellable ? (Pardon my ignorance)

[pastel flame]

That's specific to trying to spawn larger argo mining bags in the cargo elevator

You don't need to take them off to refine

[wind pilot]

You can sell directly from the ship.

or well, make the order to refine

or sell

but you'd want to refine.

once refined, you get it back as boxes

[coarse ember]

most likely mining, salvage missions themselves have been hit or miss afaik but there's still panels, trading i'm not sure about since i haven't heard anything about that

[shadow lion]

Hi, I would like to know, can a ship that has been scraped to about 90% still work? Can it quantum or use its weapons ?

[pastel flame]

The missions do get great, but the initial rep push to unlock the ones past arrow in pyro are rough imo

ymmv

[coarse ember]

ah i thought they were just completely broken

like no marker or qt to it

[pastel flame]

Worked fine for me

Only did pyro in the past week though

[coarse ember]

i havent touched any of it, i've spent my time in eptu scoping out future hotdog shop spots for whenever they decide basebuilding is good enough to ship

[sonic forum]

I do agree with decoupled, spent as well the entire week on 4.0, can say that i saw quite a lot of Pyro

But the cool thing is that also i haven’t saw a lot of places

There is quite a lot to explore

[pastel flame]

There is, places people have basically never mentioned, resources that have been mentioned maybe 4 times on this discord before

Worth $$$

[sonic forum]

I already see tons of people coming here asking about mining and salvaging once 4.0 will hit, good old times

That’s actually good because in Stanton i did a lot of salvaging, but now i would like to go mining in Pyro

So i need to learn more about it

[brisk rock]

Are hauling missions broken right now in ptu?

[coarse ember]

last i heard the markers for them would give you the wrong spot within a few km of where the actual elevator to drop off the cargo is

[brisk rock]

Like the missions aren’t showing up at all tonight

[crude thunder]

honestly haven't tested this but I've gone inside scraped ships and if they still have power then they can't be fragmented and deconstructed. So one would assume if the power is still working you might be able to fly them ? the weapons are still on board but I haven't tested this

[cunning agate]

Hahahahahah

[mild pumice]

they are working however some missions are giving too much cargo, seems to be related to the 4scu/2scu boxes (like this) - going to check IC shortly

Good news is they do complete but you have to move more than advertised!

[near swallow]

IMHO the biggest thing about mining in Pyro is that you may want a heavily armed escort. Some salvaging jobs in Pyro can be available near stations in, supposedly, protected space, but mining is another story.

[sonic forum]

I definitely agree, i went down to combat on every occasion in Pyro, finding troubles is DEFINITELY not a difficult thing there. You get attacked even for fun, you definitely don’t need a big cargo to get popped. Some people outside the EPTU doesn’t want to believe me when i say that you will absolutely get killed in Pyro for nothing, they will have a bad surprise

[near swallow]

Every time I went to a ground POI I ended up getting killed, though on one occasion I would have been fine if I'd just offloaded cargo and left, but I wanted to explore a bit and look for store terminals in the settlement. (Since it's not exactly obvious where they are.)

[sonic forum]

That’s what it’s awesome about Pyro. People and ships and troubles everywhere. It feels alive.
I had a lot of fun with this mechanic, spent quite some time patrolling around hot spots on the ground, helping players unloading their ships and fighting with other bad players. Yeah, you do not get paid for it, but who said that you only need to play for money!!

But back to the industrial topic, yes, you may want a couple more eyes while mining and even while unloading cargo

[near swallow]

When you want to buy expensive ships, money is pretty important

[sonic forum]

Yeah during the EPTU it was definitely useless, now i’m back to the grind as well. For now i do not have a mining ship, will work a bit more on hauling when i’m not doing combat missions

[near swallow]

My original Reclaimer, Vulture, and Mole are gone, but I have Reclaimer 2, aka my paused Ironclad chain.

And I've got haulers, including surprisingly a Freelancer MAX loaner.

[sonic forum]

Hauling missions are awesome but some of them in Pyro are still bugged. And when they are not, they are incredibly dangerous. Just to remain in topic

Bloom at night is the darkest planet i ever saw in SC. You won’t see shit at 5 meters from you. If there’s a player camping there, clearly you will never find it. Scary place

[near swallow]

I'm not planning to go into Pyro now, at least with the intent of making money

And one of the moons I went to in EPTU had bad visibility even during the day.

[sonic forum]

Yeah some of those planets are really dark

[sonic forum]

I’m based there. Will remain for a while. But i see your point.

[near swallow]

Yeah, this was I think Vuur? One of Pyro V's moons.

Not out of the hangar yet, and server error. (4.0)

[sonic forum]

Oooh nice, the first server error of live preview

[near swallow]

Quicker recovery then 3.2x

[sonic forum]

I played literally only 30 minutes, too tired. Spent the night awake to get the gib guardian plus taking a look at the release

[sonic forum]

Usually they are VERY fast, last one on EPTU recovered in like 15 seconds. And awesome thing, the ongoing mission was NOT lost!

That was awesome

[near swallow]

Ongoing missions, at least in the past, could have issues though. Like a salvage mission not giving you the ship marker.

[sonic forum]

I remember, now i’m not sure but it seems different. Probably the server meshing has something to do with it, that’s why you don’t loose em

I was able to complete the bunker run without problems

[mild pumice]

first salvage load dropped - at least seems to be working!

[plain seal]

hey, is the hull A able to go in hangar? not really familiar with the hull series except for the C

[distant osprey]

hull a is hanger approved!

hull c is docking only

[prime hamlet]

dang 10k there? its only 8k at loreville

[distant osprey]

just remember when storing the hull a to retract the spindles or it will become bugged

[wind pilot]

Not bad

[plain seal]

just want to get into the hangar to unload, its only 35k to rent and with hauling at 50k i'm gonna be abusing it

but thanks for the advice

[wind pilot]

Only 20 scu though?

[distant osprey]

No like if you don't retract the spindles before storing it will load it with the spindles half in the pad breaking the ship completely.

[plain seal]

yeah, but i'm not gonna store it XD
once i'm done i'm just gonna drop it somewhere bc rental is gonna expire, but thanks for the warning

[distant osprey]

oh okay, sorry i misunderstood!

[plain seal]

just wanted to not waste 35k if i couldn't get into hangar

[distant osprey]

If your looking for a good hauling ship with 4.0's stability being amazing i'd go with a c1, off grid loading I've fit around 150scu in there

played 4.0 for maybe 5 hours today and made 700k easily

[plain seal]

would have to check new rental price but as i know its 3x more expensive than hull-a

just want something cheap to stack high paying hauling mission to fast forward to my own ship

[crude thunder]

I must say the increase in Hauling contract payouts was a nice surprise, I did my inital 50k run and then unlocked 45 more rookie missions all well paying. I'll be moving a good bit of cargo in my Raft later

[warm totem]

I admit I am horrible at ship fights - BUT - I was able to complete a hauling mission taking down 5 hostiles to be able to land and deliver the food to the Prosperity folks...super FUN - super intense, then as I was leaving a polaris showed up, a player with no ill intentions so it ended well - then I took a bounty at an asteroid field, he got me. Either way, super fun intro to pryo 4.0!

[sinful stump]

Anyone know why engineering was removed from arena commander

[lyric furnace]

Is there any info yet on the new mineable exclusive to pyro

[quiet atlas]

what are the locations of pyro,s Refinarys?

[crude thunder]

Ruin Station looks like https://uexcorp.space/mining/refineries

[molten hatch]

Where can you buy the Pembroke now in the 4.0 preview?

Been to a few places that had it before and can't seem to fine one.

[quiet atlas]

gotta go looking right now everythings new

[coarse ember]

In Stanton should all still be at the same shops, not sure about pyro

Lemme go double check

Okay as it turns out they may have just yoinked it from everywhere but Tammy and sons in lorville

[molten hatch]

couldn't find it there either

its fine, jut won't mine on Aberdeen for now.

Just double checked, and yeah, no Pembroke at Tammy and Sons. 😦

[quiet atlas]

Damn mining bug again with planet rocks being there but cant mine them 😕

[sonic forum]

First 200k just with some combat missions, money are falling from the sky in this patch

Need to try some industrial loop

[pallid talon]

Did you pledge a ship yet

[pallid talon]

Omg hi travis

[pastel flame]

It's so nice. The intro 7 scu or so cargo mission for 50k is chill.

[crude thunder]

hauling is better now, huge increase in mission payouts for moving cargo .. first mission is 50k, even the rookie missions now are like 40-60k

the rookie hauls used to be something like 6-14k and Juniors were 23-24k at most

[sonic forum]

Sup man

[sonic forum]

Done some of them during the EPTU, now it’s time to try em seriously

[pallid talon]

Travis when are we flying together

[sonic forum]

When you want brother

[pallid talon]

Well my plan is maybe get on now and do phase 4 shouldnt tkae long

Then

Swap my file name and ez i can play 4.0

[sonic forum]

Once you get in 4.0 ping me if you want, ima be here, tonight i’m on for sure

But take your time

At least you can complete save stanton

[pallid talon]

where do i buy the stuff from

and how much

[sonic forum]

So basically the contract already tells you where you can buy the commodities, the problem is that before 4.0 every asshole went to those locations, and the outposts were a total mess, tons of abandoned ships and freight elevators almost always bugged. There was a mission that required you to get Tungsten together with other 2 commodities easy to find, that’s the one that i farmed honestly. With less population on 3.24 now, you could try going where the contract points you

Read the description of it and you’ll find those places

About the price, with 20/30k usually you are set

[pallid talon]

this seems easy no?

[sonic forum]

Yes, you just reminded me. I did this one as well. Bit of a long holiday but it works, because the gateways cannot get bugged

So yes go for this one 100%

[crude thunder]

very easy, I loaded up 7 4scu each on a raft and moved them all in one go

[pallid talon]

im using my sl max

my baby whale

i love it

[sonic forum]

I like it way more, when someone else flies it

[crude thunder]

if it asked for 2, give it 4, if it asks for 3, give it 4... and keep the 7th extra one because it doesn't always reward you at 6/6 you sometimes need 7/6

slmax is a nice ship but that cockpit is a crime against humanity

[sonic forum]

Let’s say also that if it asks for 2, buy 16 and farm that mission again and again

[crude thunder]

for phase 4? once you max out and get credit you lose access to the priority missions

[sonic forum]

To COMPLETE phase 4*, not to repeat that mission

You need to be seriously deranged to farm phase 4 for money, better to just cut your veins

[crude thunder]

oh no farming from me, I just did it all in one go to complete it

my derangement is in Salvage

[sonic forum]

That’s something that I understand

[pallid talon]

where can I pick them up from

i cba going to all 3 seperate

[crude thunder]

you can get the Helium and Hydrogen at the same station, I think I got them both at Seraphim but check out https://uexcorp.space

[sonic forum]

This. I completed p4 together with UEXcorp, very reliable.

[pallid talon]

ok well uexcorp isnt loading

bruh

[sonic forum]

My reliable hasn’t lasted long

LMFAO

[pallid talon]

what the fuck why isnt it loading

[sonic forum]

Yeah not working for me as well

[pallid talon]

omg and i cant warp to crusader

im gonna melt my brain

[crude thunder]

its probably being overloaded with people trying to access it, yep helium and Hydrogen at Seraphim and bex ....still loading

[pallid talon]

going seraphim ig

[crude thunder]

these 4 locations for Bex, it'll be the most expensive item on the list

[lyric furnace]

Does anyone know the name of the new mineral mineable in pyro?

[pallid talon]

right so how many do I need

this missions 2 helium and 3 hydro and 3 bex

do I just buy like 8x4scu

of each?

[pastel flame]

Riccite, Stileron

Are my 2 new favs that i'm aware of anyway

[lyric furnace]

Any specific locations they appear or?

[pastel flame]

I have only scraped the tip of the iceberg here, but I've found it on the surface of moons.

Belt mining in Terminus was heavy bexalite, so I can't say for sure how things are distributed yet just a handful of anecdotes

[lyric furnace]

Guess Ill get out my prospector and investigate

[pastel flame]

You'll really enjoy it, Pyro is beautiful.

[lyric furnace]

Im worried about griefers and fuel

[pastel flame]

Both are concerns, but less than you'd think doing industry on your own. Just be ready to use Noise when leaving a busy station.

Just the Terminus belt alone is absolutely massive, and that's to say nothing of all the clusters around nav points out there

[lyric furnace]

Is there a safe zone you can refuel at least or full danger

[pastel flame]

You can have your personal hangar at the stations

There's lots of enclosed hangars

[crude thunder]

yeah I bought 7 4scu of each because each time you hand it in, you could be asked for 2 of A, 3 of B, 2 of C or some combo...

[pastel flame]

Your only real danger points are immediately on arrival and departure, or if you want to surface mine near a shared nav point.

[lyric furnace]

So its a hit or miss if someone pops up before you land and kills you instantly eh?

[pastel flame]

Meh, it happens but it's unusual.

Avoid Orbituary

[lyric furnace]

Does the stanton jumppoint support refueling?

[mortal swallow]

How’s panel salvage in 4.0?

[pastel flame]

Ya, but jumping is a risk point you want to avoid unless you're nesting in a Polaris

[pastel flame]

Lots of 12k and 20k sigs out there, RMC took a hit to price but still profitable.

[mortal swallow]

Awesome

[pastel flame]

Mix in some missions they can be rewarding after a while now

[mortal swallow]

Seems like payouts across the board are in a much more balanced place too

[pastel flame]

Yeah mostly

[steady lily]

So, Hows hauling missions?

[pastel flame]

construction mats value doubled

[mortal swallow]

I heard they redid salvage missions, no longer have to pay for those?

[lyric furnace]

You cant jump with prospector safely?

[pastel flame]

50k for the initial one, 7 scu from station to orbit

[pastel flame]

It's just a place all people end up congregating, and you want to avoid that

[lyric furnace]

Ah

[steady lily]

Sweet. What ships should I rent for those early jobs?

[pastel flame]

"How not to be seen"

[pastel flame]

Something with it's own cargo tractor beam and at least 20 scu

[lyric furnace]

Well how do I get the ore refined without passing through

[steady lily]

More of a cleanup job from what I’ve seen. Clean debris get money.

[pastel flame]

The stations in pyro are refineries, and you can sell there too if you like

[lyric furnace]

Can I just offload it into boxes instead?

[steady lily]

Any reccomendations?

[lyric furnace]

Worse prices though eh?

[mortal swallow]

How important is having a ship tractor beam, versus an ATLS or something?

[pastel flame]

Depends, but ya mostly

[pastel flame]

You can get around not having a ship tractor but it's a lot of hassle and expense

[mortal swallow]

4.0 seems like industrial will actually have some good variety for game loops, this is definitely better than my expectations

[mortal swallow]

Good to know. Do hand tractors have limited batteries now?

[pastel flame]

No

[mortal swallow]

Or is it just the upfront cost of paying for loading or hand tractors

[lyric furnace]

would you say mining those new ores is more worth it than quantanium?

[steady lily]

You guys know where I can find a list of ships I can rent and the prices?

[mortal swallow]

Maybe I gotta downgrade my Andromeda to a Taurus, especially with the missile cost changes…

[pastel flame]

Cost of a Maxlift if you need one, having to bother to grab one at all before jumping into hauling missions. Speed of ship tractor vs hand tractor. Convenience and accuracy of elevated tractor position vs. ground position of shitty atlas view.

When you get into doing batches of those cargo missions or running 16+ scu containers of drugs or whatever, a ship tractor is so big for QoL

[lyric furnace]

Anyone know?

[crude thunder]

I could have sworn I've moved a 24 with the Max lift before but I think the wiki says it only does up to 16scu?

[pastel flame]

They aren't more per scu strictly, but they're close and they aren't as tempermental

[pastel flame]

In zero G you can move bigger stuff, honestly I avoid the maxlift like the plague the past few months since doing more cargo and don't know 100%.

[crude thunder]

I think I moved it on planet but it might have been a moon

[pastel flame]

The ATLS is nice for saving your scroll finger, but when you are holding 8scu or larger it obscures your view of anything above ground level in front of you. It has some other issues.

CIG has been cooking with those and we will have suregrip on ships

[crude thunder]

I can say there are limits to the ship tractors as well.... was funny trying to lift a Storm tank with the Zeus tractor beam, just wasn't strong enough

[pastel flame]

Yeah, smaller cargo ships don't get the oomph

Still super handy even on the Nomad

[pallid talon]

you lied to me

theres no bexalite here

[crude thunder]

It was lovely moving cargo with the Taurus tractor beam, they really, really need some way of seeing or showing the cargo at the other end of the cargo lift. I can't see that far away in the turret

[crude thunder]

I pulled that from the site, are they out of Bex or is it no longer sold?

[pallid talon]

nothing in here at all

that says bexalite even out of stock options

nothin

[crude thunder]

maybe ask in general if anyone's seen some? UEX had it there as of 10h and 12h ago... are you in 3.24 or 4.0 pre-live?

[pallid talon]

3.24

[crude thunder]

yeah only shows 5 locations and I don't want to get you blown up sending you to the 5th location

[pastel flame]

uexcorp is default 4.0 now pretty sure

At least that's how I use it

[quiet atlas]

is there any info on the new minables like tin and ice

[prime hamlet]

Is there a price tracker for rmc for 4.0?

[crude thunder]

@owen have you tried Magnus Gateway? its listed in the mission as a possible... might be a long distance haul though

[pallid talon]

im going there now

81gm

[safe socket]

can someone help me figure out how to make my prospector show as having scu storage?

i cant take the bags off even after i unlock it

[coarse ember]

They did give us a small but of info, stuff like ice would be closer to the outer edges so I assume from there so I assume the closer you get to the sun the more tin and whatnot you'd find

[quiet atlas]

ice and tin according to 1 site or worthless junk

[coarse ember]

yea tin is worth like 357 according to uexcorp, no price for the funky ice

[raw shell]

mining working in 4?

to get started and funded, would you get a prospector or a vulture?

[vestal ravine]

Vulture...

[sonic forum]

Vulture zero doubts

[raw shell]

cool thanks. Just never know which one will be working in a new release

[sonic forum]

Interstellar hauling ft. Spirit

@pastel flame Terminus is beautiful

[grand frigate]

Hello, returning player here. So I tried cargo missions and it seems that outpost elevators are bugged ? I've read it was the case before and I had a bug earlier on 4.0 too. Is it because it hasn't been fixed since 3.24 or just because we're day 1 of 4.0 ?

[pastel flame]

Yes so nice

Pyro is so scenic

[sonic forum]

Both for sure. Outposts elevators are always hit and miss. If one doesn’t work, you can always try another mission. Just be aware that it might fail because of this.

[sonic forum]

@grand frigate

[grand frigate]

Ok thanks. Will try to do missions with stations/towns if possible then

[sonic forum]

Had to say in any case that until now i NEVER found a bugged elevator, but i did only 4/5 hauling missions, even during the EPTU

so i need to test more

[pastel flame]

It's mostly the exposed outpost elevators that give issue

As you said

[sonic forum]

Yeah those ones

[grand frigate]

What do you mean by exposed outpost elevators ?

[pastel flame]

The the surface of planets or moons, not enclosed in a hangar.

[prime hamlet]

can you not scrape the white panels? or are they bugged?

[grand frigate]

Ok I see thanks

[crude thunder]

Any luck?

[pallid talon]

yes finished phase 4 now installing 4.0

[sonic forum]

Poor guys cannot even go on vacation

[sonic forum]

Nice work G

[pallid talon]

So when you carrying me to make millions

[prime hamlet]

as soon as people get out of their hangars LOL

[quiet atlas]

its not there vacation till the finish today :p

[prime hamlet]

my patience will prevail over the mega complainers though. I got millies to make

I feel like salvaging is broken rn

I cant collect from anything

[pastel flame]

Could be desync

[prime hamlet]

oh, you are absolutely right, it just loaded them

patience is key

[prime hamlet]

Just curious, anyone know why selling prices are so much higher in Orison than anywhere else?

[pearl juniper]

Logically, I would say high demand for raw materials due to crusader shipyards. And it being a floating city. Everything must arrive by ship

Vs the other cities that could have local supplies that are not modeled in game

[sonic forum]

Very soon, unfortunately it seems we will have to wait some more hours to start seeing a slightly improvement, performances are just a bit degraded on EU servers right now

Joining it’s fast as fck compared to the poor US guys, but yeah there are several problems due to the HUGE load
I was playing since now and unable to loot anything on several different shards

In a couple of hours a small hotfix to help the performances will come live

[pallid talon]

@sonic forum

just wow

[sonic forum]

Bloom, right?

[pallid talon]

bloom and high level clouds

yea

[sonic forum]

That’s beautiful indeed

Enjoy, i love Pyro 1 a lot also, that blue color is simply awesome, you’ll see it

[pallid talon]

just got killed by a player in a f8c doing my hauling mission

lol

i didnt even pick up the cargo yet

what a sad little man

[sonic forum]

That shows what i always tried to say!! HAHAHHAHAHA
i’m sorry bro, it’s a murderhobo mess right now!

[pallid talon]

is there no global chat?

i can only switch between party and my ship

[sonic forum]

Sure there is

Probably a bug

Because we don’t have enough bugs already

🤣

[pallid talon]

where do I buy tractor beams in orbituary 😭

[sonic forum]

Same elevators that you use to go to your personal hangar

Once you are in the elevator, you’ll see that you can go to the cargo deck

🙌🏻

[pallid talon]

omg you amazing man

i could kiss you

[sonic forum]

100 auec and you can!

[pallid talon]

erm slight problem

im not rich enough for a maxlift

wheres the tiny ones

😭

nvm found it

[sonic forum]

Always there at the cargo deck bro

They sell always both

[pallid talon]

im so blind

omg

[sonic forum]

I got 20 of them immediately so i won’t need to always get another one if i die

Price is not high

[pallid talon]

i feel like an old man i have no money

💀

[sonic forum]

Check the contracts, some of them got really good payouts

[pallid talon]

crying that my sl max claim time is 40mins

thats wild af

should be 25

[sonic forum]

Yeah i remember it very well..

[pallid talon]

the freelancer max is sick

[crude thunder]

3.24 or are you 4.0 preview now?

[sonic forum]

It’s the only freelancer that i really do not like. I would go for the freelancer standard at that point. Or even the Starlancer, absolutely

[crude thunder]

If the 4.0 preview the first Hauling mission pays out 50k

[pallid talon]

4

[crude thunder]

Yeah do the hauling mission... 50k to move 9 1scu boxes

[pallid talon]

i went to do hauling mission and turrets are shooting me

wha

[crude thunder]

If you have the mission they should let you through

[pallid talon]

yeh no

they instant shot at me lol

[crude thunder]

Greycat? They are mean

[pallid talon]

theres 2 players here a starlancer max just landed no issues

I instantly get shot??

[dapper mesa]

how does mining work with physical cargo? do you still store to process ore at refinery?

[prime hamlet]

any reason why it is warning me on trespassing at a lagrange station?

[fair cloak]

Without scrolling up a mile and a half... Is the Hull C useable for hauling in 4.0?

[near swallow]

Store the mining ship and start the refining job on the refinery terminal. When it's done, pick a cargo ship to load it onto. (Needs to have enough space for everything. Freelancer MAX worked for my Mole, but C1 didn't always work.)

When you get to a planet to sell the refined ores, you could try auto-unloading, or manually move everything into the freight elevator and send it down into the warehouse. I'm not sure how well auto-unloading works, last time I tried it (a while ago) it didn't work well, so I've manually unloaded since.

At TDD, you need to select the ship as the location of the ores if auto-unloading, or select the planet as the location if you manually unloaded.

[near swallow]

In Stanton, maybe. Not sure the Pyro stations will work right with it though.

[raw shell]

the best place to sell rmc seems to be terra mills, but it's armistace so I can't unload it to the cargo. Is there a way to do this?

I can't equip the pyro multitool to use the tractor

[near swallow]

If you are in your ship or on the landing pad you should be able to use tractor beam. Note that it's freight elevator probably can't handle 32 SCU containers.

It is possible to get a bugged multi-tool that won't work

[raw shell]

yes I'm in my ship, on a landing pad but I can't draw. Even flew a way and tried it and it worked. Flew back, landed, can't equip

[near swallow]

How are you trying to equip it?

And do you have armor?

[raw shell]

holding 1

[near swallow]

Multi-tool is like 5

[raw shell]

light armor

[near swallow]

1 is for rifles or Maxlift

[raw shell]

oh shit 5 worked. Normally holding 1 brings up the wheel

I always selected from that

thanks

[near swallow]

1 and 2 are rifles, 3 is pistol, 4 I think is medpen, and 5 is pyro/medgun IIRC

[raw shell]

I always thought it was random

[near swallow]

And Maxlift/Cambio SRT count as rifles

They set up the specific numbers for specific types of tools recently

I forget how it used to be

[pearl juniper]

You can also get the max lift by hitting 5 to cycle through utility equipment

Or you could in 3.24 anyway. I haven't tried 4.0 yet

[lyric furnace]

What are the large astroid belts called in pyro?

Anyone know?

[untold crest]

I've got a C2 and want to do some hauling. What are the best routes?

I'd prefer to stay in Stanton

[fair cloak]

Just do the hauling missions to start with

30 - 80 k per mission, and not having to buy to start with

[crimson mantle]

We've updated SC Trade Tools for 4.0 and added a link right in the red pop-up for Stanton only routes 😄

It's all very new still, but they should work, assuming the hangars cooperate.

[sullen rain]

Quick question, when mining asteroids with mole in 4.0, how do you deal with the smaller shards after the initial crack? The bar to fill to know the sweet spot isn't filling for the smaller shards

I am also on default M&K rn

[pearl juniper]

are the smaller pieces more or less than 10scu? You might just need to extract them

[lyric furnace]

God mining in pyro is annoying with a prospector

I can only find 20k mass rocks with actual value

[sullen rain]

They are smaller than 10, also in fracture mode no clue the button for extraction

[pearl juniper]

oh, uhh, it's been a while since I did it with M&K, but right click I think switches mode. If it's less than 10 scu, it's extraction time, no need to fracture again.

there should be icons at the top of the mining hud that will tell you if you need to switch modes

[barren tapir]

Does anybody know the trick to selling hadanite?

[sullen rain]

I got it now, new default is Lctrl + Left click

[pearl juniper]

the only constant in this game is change (and bugs, of course)

[sullen rain]

Thank you for the assistance

[pearl juniper]

anyone know why there is a HOTFIX option in the launcher as well as the 4.0_PREVIEW option? Same build number on both.

[sonic forum]

The hotfix got pushed out tonight to be tested before being merged with the preview environment. It was supposed to stay there for a couple hours, then everything went to hell because the hotfix was not an hotfix at all, and instead it’s completely broken

So it was not merged with preview, and now it’s still there

[pearl juniper]

ok, so my initial guess to just play the preview was correct 🙂

[sonic forum]

Absolutely correct. The hotfix version is not playable, if you try to use the QT drive you end up into the Stanton star. Maybe that’s why it’s called HOT fix.

[onyx drift]

anyone know a fix for when you fly into a hangar and you are transported under the floor? I can fly around but not above the floor. Logging out and back in didn't help

[river sluice]

4.0 preview comedities functional? I know the stations were locked in eptu, and if so anybody know what gold or beryl is going for buy wise?

[tall vigil]

Does anyone know if auto-loading/unloading has been fixed in 4.0?

[solar coyote]

Is the mole working as intended can anyone tell me? Or is it worth the time with the rocks that are out there?

[pearl juniper]

anyone else having issues with hauling missions in 4.0? So far it's about 50/50 for me whether it recognizes the cargo when I deliver it. Sometimes the normal popup appears where it says what you delivered and if you delivered enough to satisfy the mission, other times it just sends it to your warehouse without counting it.

[lyric furnace]

Considering that most missions unrelated to salvaging and mining were buffed a lot, mining/salvaging isnt really that worth it personally unless you find giant quantanium or giant Stilleron/Riccite deposits to fill it completely up

[neat light]

does anyone know how much RMC a polaris and or hammerhead produces?

[jagged haven]

is salvaging better in pyro or crusader

[lyric furnace]

Safer and easier in crusader (yela or abandoned polaris ) but selling is more profitable in pyro

I think I saw rmc sell for 10k in pyro instead of 8k in stanton?

but dont jump back and forth wont be profitable for salvaging likely

[velvet sparrow]

why wont freight elevator accept box for hauling mission?

[lyric furnace]

4.0?

[neat light]

do you know how much RMC a polaris would pull?

[jagged haven]

also how do you actually sell rmc, do i have to store the ship, or does it have to be in hangar?

[leaden reef]

any1 know where panels are in pyro

[leaden reef]

worked for me but my ship was destroyed afterwards for some reason

[drifting cave]

Any tips for hauling in a zeus CL? I have a hard time with the 8 SCU contracts

[knotty dove]

you mean loading 8SCU crates?

[humble merlin]

!fit

[jolly dagger]

Can it fit?

Please see title linked Google Sheet for capital ship fitment indexes.

Credit to RubenSaurus

[drifting cave]

Yeah

[knotty dove]

use lube

[drifting cave]

Serious answers please.

[knotty dove]

what exacly is a issue not fitting trough doors or?

[drifting cave]

The zeus's grid is weird and despite having a capacity of 128 SCU it only fits like 4-5 8 SCU crates

[humble merlin]

I didn't experiment with it enough when it was free during IAE

Sounds really unfortunate that it has all that space but can only fit 40 SCU worth in 8 SCU crates

Unrelated: can you fit 2 rocs into one C1?

[drifting cave]

Yeah it seems like medium contracts are just impossible

[humble merlin]

The answer is yes, you can fit 2 ROC in a C1

Comfortably even

Why even get a ROC DS

lmao

[quartz ledge]

can you auto load cargo missions or just by hand?

[humble merlin]

Last time I checked, cargo missions are all manual

Auto loading is only done at TDD terminals

[knotty dove]

dunno i can load 8SCU box into my Zeus ES

[drifting cave]

Loading boxes is fine. But contracts want me to load twelve.

[fair cloak]

I have only seen 8scu boxes so far for the hauling missions

[drifting cave]

Yeah. And the Zeus's grid is asymmetrical

[lime vessel]

Maybe one day we will have the possibility to choose the crates or to have directly the best adapted ones for our ships.

[fair cloak]

Anyone tried Hull C hauling yet?

[knotty dove]

gotta be careful next time and read the contract. its intentional that you need to be careful since 100 SCU mission does not mean every ship with 100SCU plus cargo space can do it

[glossy peak]

does anyone know where a reclaimer can be refuelled in pyro?

[wind pilot]

Any of the major stations should have a XL hanger

[glossy peak]

all the locations ive checked via the map so far have been L or smaller 😦

[crude thunder]

That may be my fault flying around doing hauling missions in a Raft. 12 8scu easy

[crimson mantle]

The 3 spawn locations of Pyro have XL hangars.

[humble merlin]

Can you not buy pembroke armor anymore?

I'm at the armor shop in lorville but it's not here

[tight steppe]

Any places in pyro sell abrade scraper module except staton gateway?

[blissful flume]

Trading worth it in this update? Trading tools looks off

[coarse ember]

Gives it a day or two while everyone collects commodity data for uexcorp and SC trade tools

Ik uexcorp already has some 4.0 commodity stuff done not sure how extensive it is though

[crude thunder]

Anyone noticing a certain.... volatility... With some cargo? I was pulling a 1scu crate of titanium off my Raft recently in 4.0 prev. And somehow it clipped a 4scu container of Hydrogen and well wouldn't you know it the server decided that was worth blowing a hole in the side of my Raft sending the vtol engine flying at me.

I feel like there was some dsync going on with the server meshing but I'm also wondering if I need to be more mindful of certain cargo ?

All in all, ruined 120k of 5 cargo missions for 230k. ...sad...

[humble merlin]

Roc mining on Aberdeen is kind of a pain right now

There's no where to buy Pembroke

besides the pledge store..

Besides that Roc mining works just fine in 4.0 it seems

Much more smooth and responsive when collecting gems from the ground

FPS doesn't take a huge dump when there's like 100 gems on the ground and you hit ping

[pearl juniper]

I doubt it. The hauling missions pay WAY to much for trading to be worth it. Unless the prices have changed dramatically

Maybe that will change with later hauling missions and larger ships, but when the rookie missions pay 40-50k to move 6-12 SCU, trade can't compete with that as far as I can see

[crimson mantle]

Off how?
It's been a real challenge to get data, as not many people have been able to actually go to all the locations.
We always welcome more data runners to make the database more up-to-date 🙂

But in general yeah, there are trade routes more or less planned by CIG now and straying from the intended ones makes for a poor experience.

For smaller ships specifically, if you don't like outposts and open air loading, then there is not much worth the time.

[warm totem]

I was wondering if it was working. I took a ROC out last night, went into mining mode but I was stuck in free look and couldn't control the mining arm - not sure how that's even possible. I did however find a ROC full of Aphorite at a location - which was super nice and wondered how that could happen if the ROC was bugged. I am also wondering why they took the Pembrook out...there was ONE mining suit available in game and the shops no longer carry it? thats dumb.

[sonic forum]

I would say around 70 SCUs of RMC. One entire side is basically 30/35 SCUs.

With the Vulture you will reach full capacity before even changing side

This for the HH. Not sure about the Polaris

[coarse ember]

i'll run around today with the companion program for trade tools running and get what i can

[copper apex]

How is salvage this patch?

Is it working doing?

Or should I switch to mining

Or cargo

[sonic forum]

Finally today the server situation is a bit improved

Let’s try some HAULING

[crude thunder]

oh I don't think you want to try today.. its not looking good

took 5 contracts going to 2 places on microttech... 2 of the contracts bugged out getting the cargo up the elevator form Port Tres, 1 contract some how completed itself, contracts aren't paying out the reward until 1-10 minutes after you complete if it lets you complete them

some cargo you have to send up and down the cargo lift a few times and it still doesn't register as mission delivery

and game just went black screen on me in the middle of delivering 3 at the same place

not to mention box physics are ...off, a 1scu box just flug off into the distance moving the one next to it

[sonic forum]

I haven’t even had the time to write that message that i started getting missions without markers… sigh

So yeah.. no hauling today…

I will spend my time eating some protein bars in the Guardian

[neat light]

I tried salvaging but was only salvaging about 1SCU every 50 seconds on reclaimer. Should I change the salvaging arms?

[sonic forum]

Go double abrade always and forever

[sonic forum]

Jesus dude this setup for the Reclaimer is top notch

Fucking cool

[crude thunder]

nice setup

[neat light]

Thanks

[copper apex]

Salvage or mining?

Or cargo?

I'm thinking about melting my vulture

And if cargo is the meta again, I might just get a Zeus and keep my taurus

[sonic forum]

Salvage and cargo

But don’t you think that zoos and taurus are a bit redundant?

IMO

[copper apex]

I just want a ship to derp around in

With a decent interior and quant drive

[sonic forum]

Oh well, then the zoos will be very good

Mining seems good in Pyro but salvage is always a lot profitable.. i would go for that one, if you really have to choose

[pastel flame]

Looking fantastic my friend!

[copper apex]

That's fair

I currently own a Polaris. So I want to be able to find that, but also buy a fighter for myself like a F7 mk 2

[crude thunder]

so...shard/server went black screen I relog back in and now my ship is back in the hangar in port tres, I'm at the port, and the mission cargo is both on my raft and in the cargo lift... Yikes

[sonic forum]

Ghost MK2 and you are set

[copper apex]

Isn't the ghost mk 2 bad?

[sonic forum]

The Hornet is never bad. But we currently have a situation with turrets and hardpoints

[copper apex]

Fair enough

[sonic forum]

If you want to go hard, Sabre

[copper apex]

I currently own a Polaris, vulture, C1, and Taurus, the Taurus is my cargo, the C1 is my daily, the vulture is my money maker, and the Polaris, well that's obvious

A crewed Polaris is fun as hell

[outer ridge]

Anyone getting junior hauling missions and/or above in pyro?

[pastel flame]

Just Stanton, but it could be rep related

Covalex loves us

[outer ridge]

lmao alrigfht, is it same rep shared between pyro and stanton? if you dont know ill try it out tonight

but could save me a trip potentially

[pastel flame]

There's multiple reps, I've only done a dozen or so hauling missions so I don't want to give you wrong info, dunno

Covalex has been insanely profitable

[outer ridge]

Alright fair enough

[pastel flame]

I like 5 batches of the 50k's in the Taurus

just direct planetary only

[outer ridge]

yeah same in pyro

unfortunately it doesnt seem to go beyond trainee

[pastel flame]

Up until recently it wasn't functional at all, like til last week

Small solace? Once you get up in rank, the higher rep missions aren't better

They haven't attended to that yet

[outer ridge]

ah alright, thats good to know!

[cloud condor]

i have a C2, vulture and reclaimer
whats the best to make money in 4.0?

[chilly junco]

Where's a decent, safe place to sell RMC in Pyro?

Wasn't sure if UEXcorp was up to date

[pastel flame]

It is

[chilly junco]

Awesome, tyty\

[rich lichen]

Industry is strong on 4.0 so far

All these complaints about missions and I’m sitting at $2M from scraping

Sure we took a hit on rmc value but oh well loop remained safe

[crude thunder]

it would seem my good chaps, that the contracts system has died and shat itself

[rich lichen]

Yup all servers

Elevators are acting up too you select your hangar it says ok docking port 05 it is

[crude thunder]

somewhere in CIG HQ there is but one singular intern left to manage all of this while everyone else has gone on holiday. We should pray for his soul

[pastel flame]

Most of that complaining came from people who had never played 4.0

Meanwhile

[rich lichen]

Nice

I’m just scraping as planned

[bold yew]

Can you mine from the drivers seat of the MOLE now. I saw something about adding the minding hud to the driver's seat.

[safe socket]

anybody have any good planets to find riccite at?

[rose cove]

ALT+W puts me in fracture mode, but doesn't take me out of it.

How do I get back to normal scraping in a Vulture?

[glossy peak]

is it currently possible to swap mole bags to store in a cargo ship and sell from the cargo ship?

[coarse ember]

alt + s

[rose cove]

TY

Is the Vulture not disintegrating those C2 panel debris?

THey should be easily small enough.

[rich lichen]

Does the vulture naturally have drift I have to overcome

[rich lichen]

I couldn’t get disintegration to work btw

[rose cove]

Well dangit.

I need to make a multitool

[rich lichen]

Need a tool I take it

Lol yea

I went to seraphim and got 6 and stored in home location cause of it

[rose cove]

Is the Reclaimer claw working?

[rich lichen]

I was just unloading 40 scu and got black screen xD

Fingers crossed it is locked into the elevator and my ship still

[rose cove]

Crazy cause I was disintegrating stuff with the Vulture in the EPTU

[rich lichen]

I want them to fix the damn panel highlight bug that flickers when scraping

[rose cove]

I can handle that visual bug if the fn ship would function.

[rich lichen]

Grab 13 scu head to seraphim grab some multi tools and and store at orison

Then unload at orison

That’s what I did I try to always start with a tool, Cruz and a suit

[jagged haven]

Is ship salvaging better than panel salvging on reclaimer

[worthy wolf]

Am i crazy or didn’t the change the fee on salvage missions to a payout. Did they change it back?

[knotty dove]

depends you can get lucky and taking target ships weapons,missles/torps and cargo leading to big bonus

[pallid talon]

@sonic forum does stacking cargo missions work in pyro

like if i stack 5 from 1 location pickup to 1 drop off

I just deliver them all down to the elevator or one at a time?

[brittle orchid]

in the past yea, idk if it is right now tho since I haven't tried it. usually the best thing is to do the illegal salvage on any flat ship

[jagged haven]

aight

[sonic forum]

Unfortunately I haven’t tested enough, would love to do that but recently very few stuff was working.. and today almost no one was able to get contracts at all, of any kind

Now i’m logging in to test the new preview update that dropped

[pallid talon]

yeh im on just been afk my friends trying to do hauling missions hes got like 4 stacked

and he sent the cargo down jobs didnt complete

now they are in his storage lmao

[sonic forum]

Yeah that’s another issue

[pallid talon]

[sonic forum]

Hauling right now is hit and miss, it can work and it can go completely south

Do at your own risk

[pallid talon]

great

so what should I do for mooney

[junior crescent]

^

for me specifically, how does one make money without FPS or combat in patch 4.0?

couple of contract missions aren't even on 4.0

I've never really known how to start mining

[plain seal]

do hauling mission, you can easily do 500k/run by staking the right ones, and if you need a ship rent a hull A with 64 scu for 33k/24h (or any other ship but hull a is the cheaper)

[pallid talon]

i'll do combat just need to know what works

[pallid talon]

what ones work

[plain seal]

any hauling mission will do, i've got a good run from orison wich looks like that:
• 2/3 mission orison -> seraph for 100/150k
• 2/3 mission seraph -> cru l1-4-5
• 2/3 mission between cru l1-4-5
• 2 to 4 mission from cru l1-4-5 -> seraphim

so between 6 and 10 mission at 40/50k, and can add 2 to 3 more by stacking product if you're carefull with cargo managing (i usualy take 3 stims mission or 2-3 food/ice mission but not gonna advise that if you don't know what you're doing)

all mission are <8scu except from the one starting at seraph that will land btw 15 and 30 scu

whole run take 30min, up to 45 if server's bad

[hollow sedge]

Hello, been away for several months. How is the mining in 4.0? Works?

[plain seal]

have yet to try a rock but using spaceship it works fine

[pallid talon]

but im in pyro

[plain seal]

you can probably work out somthing similar

just look out for contract with small load and multiple source/destination that overlap

[pallid talon]

I did that and it didnt work

[hollow sedge]

thanks 🙂

[plain seal]

then come back to stanton XD

[slate kite]

help me do smuggling

[plain seal]

idk much about pyro but there should be some similar possibility or you need to level up hauling

[pallid talon]

sorry dont talk to snakes

ssssssssssssssssssss

[slate kite]

smh no money for u

[plain seal]

just wait for snake after the jump point with a mantis XD

[slate kite]

i was extorting players that jumped to pyro

last night

its amazingly profitable

[pallid talon]

nah he will sit with his little pussy boys in vc and ignore me again

[slate kite]

smh

[pallid talon]

see

[slate kite]

i called u and u were like no

[pallid talon]

when

[slate kite]

idk 24 hours ago

sometime inbetween

[pallid talon]

thats literal cap

[slate kite]

called as in messaged

[pallid talon]

sick

[slate kite]

anyways

u can smuggle shit from pyro to stanton

100k profit per

[pallid talon]

sick

who

[slate kite]

won't tell

gotta be nice

[pallid talon]

no ur not nice to me

apologise

[sonic forum]

That crewed Polaris was doing exactly this, selling drug probably coming from Stanton, immediately murderhoboed the guy they sent on the ground, then they started looking for me. Got even a cool picture!!

When they realized that you won't find shit at night here they went away lmfao

Polaris might be cool and strong but once you get out you don’t have a capital ship shield anymore

[pallid talon]

lol

[hidden garden]

I thought salvage was doing rewards not fees in 4.0

[vapid ibex]

erm what should my modules be for salvaging panels? 2xabrade and 1 cinch on the vulture?

[upbeat prawn]

rookie cargo mission question. what to do with crates from missions i no longer have?

leave behind or can they be used for other contracts

[crimson mantle]

Space them, they are entirely useless

They are tied to the specific mission instance

[upbeat prawn]

copy

[late raven]

So, I currently have a considerable quantity of Stims at Checkmate but the Admin terminal won't recognise them to sell them, but local market value says they're in demand with no stock. Suggestions?

[junior crescent]

where can i rent a hull A?

[plain seal]

seraphim at least

at cargo

[junior crescent]

ah thanks

[fair cloak]

Anyone seen any hauling missions larger than the small ones for Member Rank?

[rich lichen]

Is there a way to mark \ tag panels I keep losing them

[junior crescent]

is there a trolley to put your cargo in the game

[ornate halo]

I wish. Nope

[ornate halo]

There was some in 3.24 at the Distribution centers, but I never tried to steal one.

[junior crescent]

oh i thought you just get them somewhere

like the cargo centre

[pallid talon]

im gonna neck

i cant qt

this is so sick

[teal ridge]

Can I sell inside the ship or do I have to make boxes ? Can I sell on landing pads on planets

[rich lichen]

What’s the best ship to be dragging a vulture around in?

Looking for a mobile home I can park out somewhere and fly to it unload then go back out

[crude thunder]

psstttt.... are cargo missions working again? or are they still letting us take the cargo to the drop off then not registering as the contract commodity?

[coral flume]

Anyone had any luck roc mining in Pyro?

[pearl juniper]

I haven't tried today. Last night, I did about 8 missions and had that bug on 2 of them. So, mostly working?

[charred lichen]

I might need help relearning the cargo/salvaging game

i used to be able to do tons of cargo runs in around 3.17

[crude thunder]

I will say you can still do lots of them in 3.24

4.0 preview is going to give you a hard time, pays very much more but doesn't help if you can't get the mission complete

[charred lichen]

currently i am in 4.0 preview

[sonic forum]

Hey brother! I have an awesome news for you!

I CANNOT EITHER

[pallid talon]

i can now

[sonic forum]

oh wow you found a good shard! Better if you remain there forever

Next one will be a BORKED ONE

[blissful flume]

Is illegal mission worth it new patch or stick with salvage?

[pallid talon]

just join mine :)

[teal ridge]

Where do I sell roc mining materials & can I just land and sell or do I have to upload it

[sonic forum]

Logged off for a while.. will be back as soon as i’m free, maybe one hour, if you’ll there ima join you directly

[pallid talon]

yehg no ima be in bed then im not a night owl smh

@sonic forum

my new ship

[sonic forum]

Dudeeee i stole this thing from a ground outpost immediately

I found myself in love with the MULE

it’s simply awesome to drive around

[pallid talon]

ive been driving it around for 10mins and my friends keep saying dont hit us 😭

im doing donuts and ramping it

[sonic forum]

It goes fast as hell on the ground, awesome to explore

[charred lichen]

question, is the starfarer useful for pyro along with hydrogen collection if thats a thing?

[pallid talon]

im stuck in a wall

now my friend stuck

ahahahahah

[crude thunder]

not sure if there are less people on now or not but suddenly everything is smooth and I'm able to complete a cargo run and got to Junior level

[sonic forum]

Dude ur CLIPPED

[pallid talon]

im fuilly stuck

if i put my back against the wall I can see the clouds below me

lol

[rich lichen]

Are there any worthwhile upgrades to the vulture besides abrades

[prime hamlet]

I have heard some say put an Atlas QD on it but I havent done it myself

[rich lichen]

I was thinking all stealth but they took them from shops

[prime hamlet]

Others also say shields, but I think that one is irrelevant now

[rich lichen]

Almost need to make it into a tank that can survive an interdiction to run

[prime hamlet]

Fair, you doing it in pyro?

[rich lichen]

Nope Stanton atm

2M auec today

[prime hamlet]

dang! how long that take you?

I havent really worked out the proper way to salvage, mainly just doing panels

[rich lichen]

Most the day 400k per hr run

Play 2 hrs brake for an hour

Panels are it use abrade attachments

Do the 36-40 box runs

[prime hamlet]

yeah Ive got those. I am working with my buddy trying to get him in a vulture as well so I pay him to haul my stuff

[rich lichen]

I try to hit 24,000 fields on the scan and only go for large panels unless I need 2 scu to finish the run

[prime hamlet]

ahhh smart

[rich lichen]

Loving it the scu per panel and abrade speed feels good

Think it is one of the perfectly tuned loops atm. Price even though they nerfed it a lil still feels worth it

[prime hamlet]

I need to pack up and head to orison so I can get the extra 2k per scu

[crude thunder]

soo.. was running Hauling missions and then it flipped from "Junior" to "Not Eligible" in my rep and I have no access to the 95 hauling missions. Did I piss someone off?

[humble merlin]

You can still put all stealth

Just not all Grade A

Stealth D shields, Stealth B quantum, power supply and coolers

[rich lichen]

Is it worth it even?

[humble merlin]

If you want low EM's yeah

I still put full stealth on everything

[crude thunder]

any way to inrease hauling rep once you're in the negative? the server has been doing me dirty

[lyric furnace]

Anyone know where to find stileron?

Haven't found any of it in pyro

[crimson mantle]

It will "decay" back to 0 over time.

[crimson mantle]

No one reported any location that sell it. Might be loot only.

[lyric furnace]

I mean any planets/moons where it appears more often in rocks

[crude thunder]

thank you, guess I've been put on the naughty list for a while, been looking for reading material on how long to expect

[lyric furnace]

I know its mineable, just haven't seen it on any of the moons and planets i've tried

[crimson mantle]

Oh, I'm not in the know for the new minables.
They are doing a thing with heat band affecting minerals the further out from the star you go, but I don't know for stileron

All the distribution stuff also got removed from the client, so no datamining it 😢

[lyric furnace]

Shame

[crude thunder]

"Failing too many contracts will cause a mission giver to fire you, in which you will not be able to receive contracts from them for 24 hours. " bummer

[heady remnant]

yo, where do I rent a vulture?

[late plume]

did weavil eggs always cost like 22k?

[humble merlin]

22k for how much?

They were like 112k per SCU in 3.24, I haven't found any yet in 4.0

[late plume]

Per SCU unfortunately

I can confirm the prices on https://sc-trade.tools/best-buyer?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522C1%2520Spirit%2522,%2522investment%2522:290000,%2522origin%2522:%2522Stanton%2520%253E%2520Crusader%2520%253E%2520Daymar%2520%253E%2520Brio%2527s%2520Breaker%2520Yard%2522,%2522destination%2522:%2522Stanton%2520%253E%2520Crusader%2520%253E%2520Orison%2522,%2522itemName%2522:%2522Gasping%2520Weevil%2520Eggs%2522,%2522itemQuantityInScu%2522:1,%2522profitType%2522:%2522pure%2522,%2522smartFilters%2522:false,%2522itemTypes%2522:%255B%255D,%2522itemNames%2522:%255B%255D,%2522locationTypes%2522:%255B%255D,%2522locationNames%2522:%255B%255D,%2522factions%2522:%255B%255D%257D is correct

I was so excited that I found some lol

[humble merlin]

Try selling them to be sure

[prime hamlet]

I dont believe they are for rent

[late plume]

I did, sold 4 SCU for around 22.5k/scu

[humble merlin]

Ah

Well, 22.5k is still not bad

Makes it about the same as Quantanium

[late plume]

True, true

[pastel flame]

When your friend soft deaths a MOLE in a bounty

Thx for the bags

[marble crater]

can Mole bags still be put on a Prospector?

[heady remnant]

Im in a freelancer right now, what ship do i progress to that has to do with cargo hauling?

[pastel flame]

They actually made a lovely change so it's easier now

The collar on the prospector bags isn't as finnicky

[pastel flame]

Base or MAX?

Suggest going to a Taurus, they're great, but it's a bit of a climb

Not too long for cargo hauling missions

[marble crater]

oh you don't have to shoot them off anymore? that's cool, gonna have to get onto that then ty

[pastel flame]

It's quite nice just need a pyro multi

[heady remnant]

base

[pastel flame]

Lots of nice options, but Taurus is the GOAT right now. You could go up in cargo to a C1 or other mid cargo as well.

[heady remnant]

the c1 has less cargo

capacity

I downgraded my c1 to the freelancer

more cargo and easier to load

like

WAYYYYYYYYYY easier

[pastel flame]

Gotcha 🙂 Taurus all day.

Best cargo tractor, nice easy sled, top solo pilot dps in game

[heady remnant]

I mean i guess the c1 has more space that isnt meant to be

[pastel flame]

C2's gear is borked still, it unsettles easily

[heady remnant]

oh it has a tractor beam?

makes me want to get it much more

[pastel flame]

The best tractor beam

It deploys right behind the pilot seat

[heady remnant]

am I gonna be able to get it just with hauling missions?

[heady remnant]

?

[humble merlin]

How could you betray your beloved C1 like that

[mossy radish]

anyone figured out what the "submit" button for hauling contracts do? cargo is loaded onto freigh elevator and lowered but it does not register. hitting submit just fails it

[heady remnant]

with trainee hauler missions ( ihavent been getting any rep for some reason) Ive been able to cram about 4 missions into my freelancer every time, which allows me to make 196k each trip

[heady remnant]

the tractor beam only worked like, 1 out of 15 times that I tried to use it

[humble merlin]

That's unfortunate, it's worked every single time for me

I love my C1

[heady remnant]

I mean'

I could use it again I just dont know if I could fill it beyond its normal capacity

due to it having only one entrance

[humble merlin]

I've never really tried loading beyond capacity on anything besides a Taurus, but I heard you can do a lot with C1.

If you like the Freelancer and it works for you then that's cool too I mostly was giving you a hard time because I love C1 XD

[pastel flame]

Bags saved, whew XD

[humble merlin]

I'm sorry your tractor wasn't working for it though when you had one, I was serious when I said I've never had a problem with tractor