industrial-professions

[small galleon]

I think nerfing one job instead of making others more profitable is a bad mindset to use

[runic aurora]

arcorp tower or admin area

[sharp swift]

Admin building?

[small galleon]

Why nerf salvaging when you can make mining the most profitable out of all the industrial, legal jobs?

[runic aurora]

depends what kinda eco they wanna go for tho

[sharp swift]

You sell quant for 13k/scu but refueling an scu didn't cost 13k

Once you make that make sense, then other things can flow

[runic aurora]

if they wanna go low eco, shit needs to make less, especially for realism like there wanting, theyre gonna want you getting a new ship ingame to be a BASTARD of a task

[sharp swift]

Don't get ahead of yourself

[runic aurora]

oh you mean tank sizes going down

yeah

[small galleon]

Which it already is if you don't do any Vaughn missions.

[sharp swift]

Yeah

[runic aurora]

pissed the mole had 3 quarters fuckin nicked off its tank >:[

[sharp swift]

Fuel efficiency will most likely change to accommodate that shift

[small galleon]

Is fuel efficiency already a mechanic in the game right now?

[runic aurora]

cant deny that yeah

either reclaimer or vaughn

[small galleon]

The way I see it, IMO.

Mining has the most steps, takes the longest before you receive the payout, should make the most.
Salvaging should stay where it is for now.
Hauling should make a little bit more

[runic aurora]

makes logical sense yeah

[sharp swift]

I think hauling is in a good spot with contracts now

[runic aurora]

how mining changes post personal refining coming out is up in the air

[sharp swift]

You can start with nothing and work your way up

[runic aurora]

yeah its deffinitely entry level as an industry

[sharp swift]

Mining contracts may be the same way

[small galleon]

I've heard Senior makes less money?

[runic aurora]

lil timmy picks up the game hauling is the first thing there likely to do with there cutter or mustang alpha

[runic aurora]

mining isnt gonna be purely freelance? wierd

[sharp swift]

Sure, but at that point you're doing it for the love of the loop and less the need to make money to afford other loops

[small galleon]

I should have worded that better, I feel like it should scale better

[sharp swift]

I think hauling falls off to support freelance stuff

Aka classic hauling

[runic aurora]

yeah make money to work into going freelance

and then it becomes the fallback if you fuck up somewhere along the line

[small galleon]

Good point. I would hate to be forced to choose whether I want to do the loop I want or the loop that makes me money.

I love salvaging. Love the loop, listen to a podcast in the background and just do your thing. It also makes decent money

[runic aurora]

yeah

[small galleon]

But if it gets nerfed, I'd hate to do just Vaughn missions because I honestly hate the loop

[runic aurora]

whereas i prefer the mining loop because its more engaging but lower payout

also mining gadgets need either binning or seriously working on

[small galleon]

I wonder if all these are worked on at 4.0?

[sharp swift]

?
How do you mean?

[runic aurora]

who the fuck uses em, there a massive time waste, need lugging around (and there huge to do so) and they dont offer enough benefit for that fucking about

[sharp swift]

I use them

[runic aurora]

never thought id see the day where i found a user of them

[sharp swift]

If I come across a big rock that needs less resistance. It takes a while, yes.. but the rock is worth it if I think about getting out

Or if I want the clustering to be better to reduce excess crap, there another one for that

[wind pilot]

We need a drake miner that operates like the vulture

Side door for easy in and out

[runic aurora]

i wouldnt say so

[runic aurora]

also that exists

the prospector

[wind pilot]

Not in the same way though

You need to open 2 doors

[runic aurora]

not precisely but close enough

at least they arent a 10 mile run and a ladder

[sharp swift]

Mole with multicrew is really fun and strong. Some might want to be that 'boots on the ground' type that sets up the gadgets

[runic aurora]

if im running a mole with multi crew odds are im running the most optimal power set up for all challenges

[wind pilot]

I’ve had the prospector for a while, and getting in and out is much easier on the vulture

[runic aurora]

yeah, i just never get out unless in station

[wind pilot]

Mole is one of the ships I want

[runic aurora]

fuck off to yella belt, fill up, back to arc L1 risne repeat

[runic aurora]

it is good, just the solo game on it takes FOREVER

you really need at least 2 or 3 buddies to run it properly and properly capitalise with it

[wind pilot]

I’ll get a prospector if I want to mine solo

[runic aurora]

yeah

i just use the mole solo cause of the 96 scu storage

been really loving the roc recently tho

always used to say it was shit

then i tried it and was like "this actually aint as bad as i thought"

deffintely more instant profit than prospector from instant sell

getting it round is a bitch tho, especially loading into my carrier ship in hanger (fucking IMPOUNDING)

seriously need that sorting

[sharp swift]

ROC is gonna get a lot of love with crafting and the Arrastra coming out

[runic aurora]

good shit

[sharp swift]

Since gems are needed for refining

[runic aurora]

oh?

are they?

[sharp swift]

And the Arrastra can carry two in its hold

[runic aurora]

i did not know that

[sharp swift]

Get a lot of love from the community*

[runic aurora]

also the roc ds needs work

[sharp swift]

Yeah go watch the crafting vod from this year's Citcon

[runic aurora]

thing sucks

[sharp swift]

Dolovine was a component for an upgrade

[runic aurora]

hm

interesting

any news on if the roc is gonna be upgradeable with mining heads or anything?

[sharp swift]

No idea

DS is gonna get fixed tho, per day 3 ISE Show quantum question bit

[runic aurora]

i mean they should jsut keep the ds 1 seater in my eyes and just have it as an upgrade or mk2 type thing than making the mining arm need either a seperate operator or the 1 op having to get in and out

[ebon cedar]

I'm not doing cargo or hauling usually : Daymar (CRU) ArcCorp Mining Area 141 : you can buy commodities but there is no elevator... is that "normal" ??

[sharp swift]

The elevator may be broken

[ebon cedar]

Broken to the point they do'nt exist ?

[rich python]

a majority of them were posted in there by me, I only transferred credit where we had it in the ones previously.

i reposted everything we had in the salvage and mining, i don't know this stuff so feel free to unpin anything that isn't useful anymore.

3.22 Mining Cheat Sheets

By @tame forum

Hammerhead Salvage Mission Chart

By @nocturne crater

[raw elbow]

Right so, im in New Babbage with a basic Multi Tool with mining thing, where or how can i start mining?

[wind pilot]

Bring a big backpack

[raw elbow]

It appears i also need better gear to handle the harsh environments

[wind pilot]

Yes

[raw elbow]

i dont know if i will have enough money to get what i need, so what is recommended to get first?

And where can i start looking for minerals nearby Babbage?

[crisp bobcat]

For the hand mineable items you want to look for gems.

[raw elbow]

Right, and where can i start looking for them?

[slim pulsar]

Moons. All gems spawn on all moons (as far as I’m aware) but density of each varies significantly.

I think Aberdeen is rich in Hadanite? (Don’t quote me on that)

[raw elbow]

And with the multi tool i need to go down to the moon to search for it? Are there any kind of radars for the ships?

[slim pulsar]

Just use any ship, preferably a fast one. Go to scan mode, make sure angle is set to max, and spam tab

[raw elbow]

Im using the Drake Cutter, with the IAE

[slim pulsar]

Great! That works

[raw elbow]

And how do i set the distance for the scan?

[slim pulsar]

Distance is always max. Use scroll to change angle in and out. Max angle is short range, but scans full circle around you, and minimum is SUPER long range, but only scans in a 2 degree cone at your front

[raw elbow]

oof

[slim pulsar]

*assuming you are in scan mode

Yeah, it’s a bit complex to explain all the details

Short version:
go to moon
Scan mode
Look for cloud of dots, AKA “unidentified signature”
Narrow down scan angle and close distance
If it becomes a cluster of small signatures, land and mine em up!

Make sure to pick up gems

You are looking for small, egg-shaped rocks a little shorter than the player

[frank warren]

If you are FPS mining (using the multi tool) only place you can really mine will be in caves

The rocks planet side are gonna be too big to mine by hand and you will need a ROC

[frank warren]

It is

[raw elbow]

Where can i find em

[frank warren]

Missing person contracts is one way to find them, you can also use google to help find them as they aren’t marked

But that being said, even in caves, there isn’t a lot normally and not all of them in caves you can break

I would save up the money to rent a ROC by doing other things and use the ROC to mine gems. But I don’t remember the rental cost

You can go to a refinery and look at the price to rent one there

[raw elbow]

ANd what is a ROC?

[frank warren]

An ROC (Remote Ore Collector) is a specialized mining vehicle that you drive around to break gem rocks. (The ROC can only break gems and not normal ores as it's too weak to break normal ores)

You would take a ship that could fit the ROC, most popular ship to do that is a Cutty Black and fly around until you find a cluster of gem ores, drive it out and mine those rocks and drive the ROC back into the ship and repeat.

[slim pulsar]

MB. I was under the impression that you could use the multitool on surface gems, just slower. Whoops!

[frank warren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svpNWi_Cd4A

Very quick guide and not everything is 100% correct in the video as it is a few patches behind. (Like keybinds to switch modes)

[frank warren]

Yeah, sadly not. FPS mining is for caves and even then, you will find rocks you can't break lol

FPS = Caves
ROC = Surface Gems
Prospector/Mole = Surface/Space Ores

[slim pulsar]

Well, one upside. Caves mean you can find that one ultra rare gemstone

[frank warren]

Not really

Only some caves have them are we are talking like a 0.2% chance to find them if I am right

[slim pulsar]

It’s super rare, but it’s there

[slim pulsar]

Yeah

It’s like the lottery

[frank warren]

Janalite can also only spawn in Sand Caves

So you gotta find those

It was mainly put in the game to make others explore the new sand caves.

[slim pulsar]

Oh. Well, I need to get my info more precise

I’m not a gem expert

[frank warren]

Prices are't up to date. But this is roughly where you can find gems

[slim pulsar]

I thought they were in all caves, but sand caves had the highest spawn rate

[frank warren]

You want to mine Hadanite and Aberdeen/Arial are your best places

[frank warren]

There is a chance it was changed

But they used to only spawn in sand caves

[raw elbow]

So yeah, courier work first it is

[slim pulsar]

Thanks for the new info.

[raw elbow]

And even then, desync and dc's are so annoying

[frank warren]

Wiki still shows only sand caves

[slim pulsar]

ROC mining IS def worth it. It’s one of the best ways to make early cash

[frank warren]

When it wants to work lol

Not sure if selling is still bugged or not

But normally, you would do stuff to earn your way up to a ROC and Cutty Black Rental and from there, do ROC mining until you could get a Vulture

[raw elbow]

Interesting, but at the same time, what can i start with that is not affected negatively by the server issues and doesnt demand much money?

[frank warren]

Not much early on tbh

You could try your hand in cargo hauling

as if you dc. you don't lose rep

You do lose the contract tho

You could do bunker missions or with IAE, you could also do merc/bounty work

The numbers aren't gonna be 100%
But looks like to rent a ROC for 1 day is around 2600

[rigid crescent]

just playing again, do i need to unload the refined ore or sell from ship?

[frank warren]

And a cutty black (If IAE wasn't a thing) around 61k-62k

[frank warren]

Unload into the freight elevator

There is a auto unload feature, but it is buggy and either wont work or takes your cargo and doesnt pay you

[raw elbow]

tried doing once the merc (to kill some ships) and i got my ass handled to me (ship wasnt destroyed), and what is the bunker missions?

[frank warren]

Wouldn't use it for now

[rigid crescent]

thanks just doing it for the academy

[frank warren]

I'm based out in MT, but in I believe the merc tab, there should be a contact called "defend occupants" it will bring you to a bunker and there will be friendly and hostile targets. You want to kill the hostile targets and not shoot the friendlies. Clear out all the hostile targets (Which are Nine Tail NPC's) and you will get so me credits for doing it. You can also loot their bodies for gear and sell the gear and sometimes find containers with gear in them that players might want to buy. Like railguns lol

https://starcitizen.tools/Defend_Occupants

[raw elbow]

gonna look out for those

Can i accept more than one contract at a time?

Also saw some "clear claimjumper" work, is it worth it for someone with a basic ass pistol?

[frank warren]

Only 1 will ever be up at a time for Defend Occupants

[frank warren]

Prob not, but if you can kill 1 person, you can just steal their gun

But I haven't done that contract before, so I don't really know anything about it

[raw elbow]

Gonna do some other work then, thanks for all the help!

[dark tendon]

anyone know what size ship is the limit for the vulture to monch?

[pliant matrix]

what size of crates enter 400i grid? since it's 42 I guess it can take 2x16scu plus some small box

[pearl juniper]

clear claimjumpers is actually space combat I think. I belive it's also often bugged, although I have only tried it once and it was a couple patches ago. Didn't seem to work at that time though.

[raw elbow]

DO i even have a flashlight of sorts in the multi tool?

anda scanner?

so i jsut found a deposit of Hadarite but i cant seem to mine it, what do i do?

[limber compass]

decided to do a clean salvage run, i'll take and sell every part of the ship

Hope theese don't blow up my ship 😄

It's more a game stability test than for profit

also damn M7A are not cheap

If you want to upgrade guns, maybe just get a salvage claim for 50 and get guns from a wreck 😄

wait... you can't store guns in elevators?

[small galleon]

I call upon you @sonic forum for your indecisiveness rivals only few.

And for I am, also indecisive lol

[limber compass]

never mind you can

Ok salvaging is a bitch... get a server error that deletes the wreck, can't do a clean salvage.

[fickle dune]

is the C2 broken? My rear hatch wont open. Shows a lock on the hatch button

[fluid sentinel]

yep

they bouncy

careful

[fickle dune]

Any idea how to actually unlock the rear door?

[long pulsar]

bro why are drugs still not showing up for me in sc trade tools

ive selected vice, the individual drugs, 'avoid hidden locations' disabled, still doesnt work

[wet fable]

Anyone having issues scanning rocks for mining?

Can't get anything to scan, both with the ship scanner and with the lasers themselves

Also haven't played in a few months, so much has changed

[mossy radish]

anyone with a polaris has done the phase 1 cargo missions with it? does auto unloading work towards mission progress?

[untold rapids]

3x7

[pearl juniper]

Auto loading is not an option for cargo missions

[mossy radish]

thanks

[pliant matrix]

you mean 3x8 right? xD

[untold rapids]

no

[pliant matrix]

explain then because 3x7=21 and there are no 7scu crates

[untold rapids]

...

[pliant matrix]

Yes? where do you see 3x7 please?

[untold rapids]

2+2+2+1

=

7

[pliant matrix]

wow ok. but I asked what crates size (1-2-4-8 etc...) it could take. not the surface

[subtle cargo]

are there any known issues with Mining esp in a prospector in this patch?

where is best place to go mining with prospector rn?

[frank warren]

You get a flashlight whenever you have a helmet on. It’s either L or T

[long pulsar]

pls dont tell me this size cargo doesnt fit

bc if so im gonna have 576 scu of unusable cargo

this the second time this has happened as well

[hollow sedge]

the cateripllar is 4x24scu boxes with 2 scu boxes filling in the gaps and 4x16 scu boxes in the front (16 scu are broken, use 8x8scu instead and 2scu boxes filling in the gaps

check pinned messages all the cargo layouts are there

[long pulsar]

what am i gonna do with all this cargo now that i cant even sell

[hollow sedge]

do you have a ship that holds 32 scu sized boxes?

[long pulsar]

are there even any?

[hollow sedge]

c2 hercules

[long pulsar]

ive got 2.3m so i could maybe rent one out

[hollow sedge]

RAFT

c1 spirit

freelancer max

connie taurus

well everythings being wiped anyways soon when 4.0 releases

[long pulsar]

would this not work?

[long pulsar]

im on free fly lol so yeah wont matter

[hollow sedge]

you could try

[long pulsar]

whats the diff between traverse and detach mode on tractor beams

[cloud robin]

Detach can grab cargo off a grid

Traverse can move loose cargo and be used to pull you towards objects in space

[long pulsar]

beautiful cargo loading from me

[vestal ravine]

Can it quantum jump like that? And save the crate?

[long pulsar]

nope, couldnt even close door on it

so i just left it behind

but the bottom crates made it sound and safe

[vestal ravine]

You should test it.

[long pulsar]

well i did test it

and it did

so quite a lot of money lost

[coarse ember]

iirc biggest vulture can munch is a msr

[dark tendon]

Thanks

[vestal ravine]

Ok, thanks for the intel...

[mossy radish]

frieght elevators connect to the station/outpost inventory based on on who is interacting with it right? in other words i will always interact with my inventory through the freight elevator regardless of the hangar owner?

[fallow palm]

is there a website for trade routes?

a calculator

[pallid talon]

[untold rapids]

correct

[tacit trench]

this is prolly a dumb question but is there any word on if the mole will be getting bigger bags because in its current modle the saddlebags on the mole are smaller then what it can hold

[limber compass]

Mass of unrefined metal ore < Mass of metal

Never thaught about it

Maybe the 16x boxes are 1% full

[limber compass]

Did a full salvage, haven't sold scrap and couple missiles, but that is it for Salvaging a legal Freelancer wreck. Feels nice to clean up everything.

I was salvaging a Corsair before... couldn't scrap and crunch because server error took it away, but i made money anyways with 3x Omnisky weapons and the cargo.

For me the cargo update + salvage update is hitting hard right now

[patent solar]

is supporting broken with tractors?

[stiff vine]

If you mean the tandem stuff it isn't in yet

[small galleon]

How common are valuable cargo found in salvage contracts?

[ornate ledge]

What are the more profitable ships to salvage? Looking for one that will turn a good profit from components and stuff

[limber compass]

I don't know

[pure vigil]

so when mining and going to put in a work order which process should i use

[spare cloud]

Dynix is slow, but cheapest and highest yield

[sonic fiber]

It's a balance of time and cost

It will tell you, more yield, low cost, more time

[sonic forum]

@small galleon sorry, just to avoid going off topic, however i really don’t know, i’m TOTALLY far from mining, do not even own a mining ship, just tried it every now and then with a Prospector, so the revenue from a good run with the Mole is unknown for me

[sharp swift]

@small galleon Mole payouts can be around 250k

[sonic forum]

But apart from this yes, the jump from a Prospector is definitely not as tough as the Vulture > Reclaimer, no doubts

[sharp swift]

Typically a single Mole run will net me 300-400k

If I'm running solo

[sonic forum]

Expected it to be way more profitable..

[small galleon]

Ah yeah. This is why I really believe that mining should be the top 1 earner within the industrial sector

More steps, more time before the actual payout and then you get less than salvaging. My concern is they'll nerf salvaging rather than buffing the mining

[small galleon]

With a crew, you think another 100k on top is a good estimate?

[sharp swift]

With crew you split the haul, but have faster runs

A good Mole run will take around an hour, if you're being picky about rocks

I haven't tested how lucrative it is to just mine the first cluster of T2 mats you see vs hunting for T1

[small galleon]

How much coordination do you need between the laser operators? Or can they both see the bar?

[sharp swift]

The range per seat is great, you can easily coordinate all 3 lasers on a single rock if necessary. Or tackle separate rocks

There's no easy marker, except for swapping to extractor mode and lasering the desired rock (so you don't risk exploding something)

[pearl juniper]

They can all see their own bar, but everyone's actions effect the bar. You really need to be talking and working together

[small galleon]

But the bar they see is shared? It's the overall progress and not their progress

[small galleon]

Man mining really is kidna whelming

[sharp swift]

Oh that bar. Sorry, yes

[pearl juniper]

Yes, it's one bar that shows the status of the rock

[sharp swift]

Typically someone maxes out their laser first, then a second if needed, and let the 3rd feather things

[pearl juniper]

It's cool because if you have a laser with mods to increase the charge window, when that laser turns on everyone will see the window get bigger, for example

[sharp swift]

It is a reasonable money maker which, for now, has a low risk of piracy since pirates can't do much with the cargo as is

[pearl juniper]

So you can really set up all the lasers to compliment each other

[small galleon]

Ah true. What's a prospector's payout look like? Half that?

[sharp swift]

If you can get the argo pod on it, yea

But the lower laser power may make you hunt for minable rocks more

[small galleon]

Been thinking about mining since it looks like a great way to start a session. Mine, refine and do your own thing while waiting for the ores to be refined

T1 I assume are Gold, Bexalite, Quant, etc?

[sharp swift]

Yeah

[pearl juniper]

Gold bexalite taranite

[sharp swift]

^

[pearl juniper]

Quant is kinda in a class by itself

[sharp swift]

T1+

and the 'ok we gotta go' material

[pearl juniper]

Yeah. Or the, ok we aren't being picky anymore grab everything mineral

Because 25 minutes is usually plenty of time to fill up and get back

[small galleon]

Do we have any news about mining at 4.0? Anything changed

[tender bluff]

Would you guys be more inclined to go mole or reclaimer

Usually a solo/duo

[spare cloud]

Arrastra

But MOLE

[tender bluff]

I was thinking of going arrastra

But it may be more ship than a duo can handle

[vocal cradle]

Is there a list of hauling missions ranks

[pastel flame]

I like ferron exchange

More expensive than dinyx, but still a good yield and 9 hrs instead of say 24

It's like 12k instead of 6k for a full prospector refine

[vocal cradle]

Can’t find the ranks online

[limber compass]

with the cargo update i try to get nice box dimensions, for example a 16x or 8x or 16x+8x stuff like that, and i chose the process where i pay smallest fees allways.

lol ok 16x+8x you just get a 24x box... XD

[spare cloud]

It honestly looks more soloable than MOLE, because all seats are in the same room a few meters apart

[limber compass]

also it rounds up... so if it says 15.x, you will get a 16x box

[spare cloud]

Ofc not meant to be soloed, but a duo should be able to decently use an Arrastra

[ashen wedge]

Anyone know what refining actually does? Can I get an ELI5?

[frank warren]

Like the refining methods for processing ores?

[ashen wedge]

I'v enever done mining.

And I got a Prospy, so I'm like, wondering what I'm doing lol

[lofty crest]

god i cant wait for the arrastra

[frank warren]

After you go out mining with your Prospector, you have to bring your ore to a refinery to either sell the raw ore (About half the cost of what you would normally get for them) or you can go and get the raw ores processed. If you choose to process your ores, there are 9 different refining methods you can use, each one will have a different speed, cost and yield stat to them. Some will be slow as hell, cost next to nothing, and give a high yield, whole others will be super fast, cost a lot, but you won't get as much.

I normally go with Dinyx Solvention, becaise it is a high yield and low cost. It is very slow for speed though, big loads of raw ore can take 1-3 real life days to process, but for me, I am okay waiting.

[spare cloud]

IMO when you're well installed in your mining loop there's no reason not to go for Dinyx

[frank warren]

I don't mind waiting personally, doesn't really change much besides having to go and move cargo a few days later. But everyone does it differently

[frank warren]

But once your work order is done, you will need a cargo ship to move the processed ores onto and then you can go to a TDD to sell them.

[ashen wedge]

So the refined ore is cargo that I have to move to the elevator?

[pearl juniper]

In the current state of the game it is still auto loaded into your ship. You can either manually unload it, or risk auto unloading at the TDD (sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't). Supposedly soon the option is being added to send it to the freight elevator from the refinery (maybe in 4.0?, I'm not sure)

[ashen wedge]

Is there a limit to the number of refinery jobs you can have going on at once?

[pearl juniper]

not that I know of

I have not had more than about 5-6 at one time personally

[median gale]

I’ve had about a dozen going at once. Just want to make sure you don’t have any going when a patch happens, they’ll get lost.

[frank warren]

I also want to assume if there was a limit, it just wouldn’t let you make a new work order until the old ones are claimed

But who knows

[simple bluff]

anyone know what the best srv loadout is?

[leaden monolith]

When I was mining I used Ferron Exchange. Twice the cost of Dinyx, under half the refining time and the same yield. But as said above each to their own.

[small galleon]

Huh so looks like trading and jobs have been tweaked. Kinda excited

[sinful breach]

whats the best way to dip my toes into mining? dont really care about profit atm just getting a feel

[small galleon]

Maybe find someone in Global to borrow a Prospector or ask to crew a Mole

[median gale]

Renting a Prospector was a good entry point for me. Paid off a day’s rent in a couple of hours. If I knew what I was doing it would have taken less time. Everything after that was profit and knowledge gained.

[mossy radish]

where you can sell 20scus of laranite that has been found?

[frank warren]

Any goods that are stolen has to be sold at a NQA Terminal (No Questions Ask). For Laranite, I believe the only area is CRU-L5

The NQA terminal will be hidden, and they are red terminals with a cutty black and cargo coming out of it

[mossy radish]

thanks, ill try that next time. it just seemed like i couldnt sell it anywhere according to sc trade tools with the stolen filter on

[silver creek]

every mission mean combat beacons back?

[open plaza]

could 2 ROCs mine a big rock?

[hollow oyster]

can you use docking only ships for hauling?

[small galleon]

No idea. Wording seems very generalized. Risk and reward though makes me think legal bounty's will possibly have better payout. Maybe PVP bounty hunting might make a little bit more and salvaging might make less since it's a relatively safe job right now with decent payout

[runic aurora]

no you land any ship in your hanger and use the cargo elevators in there

[hollow oyster]

so you cant really use like the polaris for hauling

[runic aurora]

docking is only really used for huge ships at stations that dont have that size hanger: like capital or xl ships like the polaris

there ought to be an unload service for docking ships tbh

even if it was a small fee or hell even a medium fee and a 2 min wait itd make hauling so much easier if you were using an xl ship

also help for stuff like the orion if you were for some reason selling at a station instead of planet side

[frank warren]

No

[runic aurora]

try maybe 30 or 40 and maybe, still couldnt collect it tho

[frank warren]

Even if you where some how able to break the rock, you couldn't collect the ore.

ROC's are only meant to Gem Mining. If you want to do any type of Ore Mining, you will need a ship

[runic aurora]

prospectors are cheap to rent daily

73k per day last i did it

[frank warren]

About that yeah

Or find a Mole Crew and work with them

[runic aurora]

yeah

mole is fun

just wish they actually fixed the doors that didnt work instead of just removing them

[frank warren]

Honestly, I am curious on how many ROC's it would take to break a rock lol
If they are even programmed to be able to at all.

[runic aurora]

wayyyyyyyyy too many

if we could kit em with better lasers itd probably be doable

they would be programmed to be able to cause they can scan the rocks

but my estimation would be 30 to 40 rocs for a big ol worthwhile rock

smaller like 8 scu rocks maybe 4 to 5

also any news on how pyro's going, still lookin like we getting it this month?

hyped to see what id be able to mine out there

[placid quartz]

Can you crack a reclaimer with a reclaimer?

[livid siren]

i think so

I cant use 315P tractor beam, is it broken?

[sonic fiber]

Sounds like an improvement but with out dynamics it'll be pointless in the long run.

[sonic fiber]

Yes

[small galleon]

Agreed. The risk/reward principle might make PVP bounty's a bit more profitable and the less dangerous tasks might get make even less

[spare cloud]

You powered it on ?

On the Power MFD

[cosmic sparrow]

whats the new meta for the prospector?

[pearl juniper]

Was there ever one? Kinda depends on what you are mining and how small of a charge window you can tolerate

But nothing has changed

[fickle dune]

Anyone figure out how to get the Hauling IAE academy badge if they already did the starter mission and skipped the tutorial? Ive run about 15 missions and it wont show up

[cosmic sparrow]

there used to be a year or 2 ago, perfect for solo mining quant. but it changed when salvaging came out, and I'm not sure what head/modual to use now

[pearl juniper]

Gotcha. I usually run Helix + reiger + focus

You could swap the focus for something that gives more power, but my experience breaking bigger rocks just leaves you with smaller rocks that are very hard to rebreak with an OP laser

[cosmic sparrow]

what size rocks should I look for with that setup?

[pearl juniper]

Uhh, let's see if I can find my chart

[cosmic sparrow]

thanks

[pearl juniper]

About 18k at zero resistance, 14k at 35%

[cosmic sparrow]

thank you

[pearl juniper]

Surge is arguably a better option in many cases. More power when you need it, less power for smaller rocks

But a bit harder to use

[cosmic sparrow]

I might run surge just to get more quant per run. need to make some quick money today

[livid siren]

Yes, there is even red beam but it does not latch to anything

[pearl juniper]

Worth a try. The instability hit on the surge can make it really hard on quant though

[sonic fiber]

Players will just adapt to best reward and then cig won't fix anything for another 2 years. And they'll somehow leave the latest thing broken in the meantime. Like hull cargo elevators, reclaimer hold, etc

[candid bay]

Anyone with a mole able to help out with bag donation to a prospector?

[cunning agate]

Mercury Star Runner Cargo Discussion:

Depicted here is 96 SCU of Nitrogen in 4, 8, and 16 SCU containers for Save Stanton Phase 4. The optimal cargo container loadout for the MSR is 3x16, placed longwise fore to aft side by side, then a fourth 16 SCU container laid beamwise aft of those three like the one you see here. Then, an 8 SCU container laid aft of one of the 16 SCU containers, then 9x4 SCU containers laid atop all of these.

That is 108 SCU on the grid.

Off grid, another 16 SCU container can be placed on the deck, aft of all this toward the starboard bulkhead, with a 4 SCU container atop it, if you are feeling bold enough to stack items NOT on the cargo grid. And if you want, you can shift that stacked 4 SCU container to the starboard and stack a second 4 SCU container atop that aftmost 16 SCU container.

Making for 132 SCU maximum "safe enough" capacity without impingement on walkways.

If you want total theoretical maximum, yet another 4 SCU container could be placed in the aft port corner, and a 4 SCU container stacked on its side next to the elevator, and another 2 SCU container stacked atop that, for another 10 SCU.

Making for a theoretical 142 SCU maximum load in the MSR, but on your own responsibility. AS ALWAYS.

And there is yet more if you want to get stacky with 1 SCU containers. 150 SCU pretty do-able it looks like.

Not bad for a ship rated for 114 SCU cargo in the ASOP terminal.

[median gale]

Can you still get the free rental at IAE? I pulled bags off of a rental from there.

[candid bay]

Oh yeah, ty for the tip.

[wraith barn]

does anyone know how I deliver my cargo to ArcCorp Mining area 141? I don't see a freight elevator anywhere.

[spare cloud]

You don't

Simple

No clue what CIG did with 141, but it's fucked

[rose cedar]

did they change the mining mode? because i cannot aim the mining head anywhere even with different aiming modes with 'G'? it just fires locked straight

[wraith barn]

that's mighty unfortunate

[rose cedar]

while in mining mode

yeah mining is busted

targeting rock shows zero charge, then alerts me to overcharge when nothing shows in prospector

but HEY try mining for IAE Academy

lol

laser power control is boost, so you are idle boosting while changing laser power, which doesnt show any change in charge, AND changes which gun mapping 1-2 you are using

[pearl juniper]

it isn't. you are just experiencing lag

I was mining with the prospector 2 days ago with zero major issues

[rose cedar]

i have tried on 2 different days and server shards

[pearl juniper]

weird. Not sure what's up then.

[rose cedar]

i also sat in my prospector just aiming my locked-straight mining head and trying to wing it with no charging level showing for 5min

only for the rock to blow up

[safe vortex]

How do you properly scan for asteroids?

[vestal ravine]

Awesome. I heard loads from Pyro back to Stanton will pay a premium so something like this be real good idea.

[cunning agate]

Yeah it'll be good to have a medium cargo ship with some legs.

[shrewd pasture]

is ther ever a point anymore to even consider the lancet mining head?

[desert lantern]

with the cargo elevators do i have to unload the reclaimer to sell

[frank warren]

For the most part, yes.

There is a auto unload feature, where you can sell cargo that is on the ships grid without taking it out of the ship. But it is really buggy and either it is gonna work, not gonna work or will take your cargo and not pay you. So I wouldn't use it personally

[leaden reef]

mining worked fine for me

[leaden reef]

was it a small rock and did it have a purple outline?

also auto unload worked fine for my reclaimer

[rose cedar]

no, it was yellow/orange, as purple/blue is harvestable

[heavy mural]

when i am salvaging with the reclaimer, do i need to store all the crates in the hanger's warehouse or can I just leave it inside and sell directly ?

[wind pilot]

You can leave it in, but it will cost you a little when selling

[heavy mural]

by leave it in u mean i still have to actually create the crates using the filler station? also does it have to be snapped on to the grid or just anywhere inside?

and u got a rough estimation on how much it costs

[wind pilot]

Yes

You have to make the boxes

[ivory rose]

Anybody here down to mole mine w me someday? I’ve come across so biggins that are too big for solo, I’m on usually weekend nights

[twilit condor]

How much resistance can the pyro multi-tool handle?

What does instability mean?

[stable current]

Hey all, how would I be able to tell a rock from a panel when scanning?

New to the game so assume my knowledge is beyond basic ❤️

[wind pilot]

Anything that can be multiplied by 2000 is a panel field

[stable current]

Where do I see the 2000 number? This is the part I'm having difficulty with

[wind pilot]

You have to go into scanning mode and use the radar ping

[stable current]

I'm in scanning mode and hitting TAB (sends out a pulse) but it just says >> READY TO SCAN <<

[wind pilot]

Don’t look at that

You see the number appear in the middle-top-ish of your screen

When you point your nose at a field

[stable current]

Is it that number?

[wind pilot]

Correct!

[stable current]

Perfect! Glad I'm looking at the right part of the screen haha

[wind pilot]

Haha

Happy scrapping!

[stable current]

Thanks! is there a particular place that's good for doing it? Currently several hundred KM from CRUL2

[wind pilot]

Ehh, not that I have noticed?

You just have to get lucky

Sometimes you find a field with small panels, the next one can have 3-4 big ones

[vestal ravine]

Any early numbers for the selling price of RMC in the eptu patch?

[pallid talon]

7-8k lol

[stable current]

Well I took the ladder whilst in QT and fell out of my ship through a solid wall >.> yikes

[frank warren]

Yeah, ladders and elevators aren’t your friend in QT lol

[stable current]

Yep, lost all the salvage I'd been sorting so that's a pain in the ass

oh well, was only 7SCU of it so not the end of the world just an annoyance

[vestal ravine]

well suppose it could be worse....thx...

[leaden monolith]

My rule of thumb whenever I have any type of cargo in any ship is to not leave the pilot seat in QT.

[scarlet rover]

Happened to me as I was flying my Cat, in cruise mode, away from a planet landing zone, waiting to break atmo. I thought I could go walk around while waiting to hit orbit. Ended up outside the ship, falling back into the gravity well, as my full load of cargo sped away from me you just have to laugh in a situation like that

[latent drift]

I feel like most of us who fly long haul cargo have had that happen at least once. The urge to get up and walk around while in a long-ass QT is strong haha.

[mental folio]

Does anyone know if the Investigation, Search, Research, and Maintenance professions progress to higher paying missions or do they always stay the same?

[small galleon]

How does hauling/salvaging work with a friend? Does the hauler put it in his freight elevator?

@sonic forum

Anyone know?

[sonic forum]

If you mean the unloading process, my slave comes with me into my hangar, helps me unloading everything into my freight elevator, then i send everything down into my storage

I go selling, we split profits

Easy as that

[small galleon]

LOL what a casual way to throw slave around lmao

Can I fracture if a ship is powered on?

[sonic forum]

Negative bruh

But you can easily pop it if it’s empty, better if it has the shields down

Or you can get inside and turning the thing off

Well of course be sure there isn’t anyone inside, but if the comm array is down usually i do not really waste my precious time checking for occupants

[sonic fiber]

I get up and walk around irl instead 🙂

[sonic fiber]

Whoever owns the hangar

[latent drift]

Yeah now I just go make some tea. Or just use my C1!

[sonic forum]

Feel free to add me in game, name is travissgrey

Never tried the Mole (i know how to mine) so i would be happy to come

I’m a bit unwell those last days but i will be on soon 🙌🏻

[ivory rose]

Okay sounds good! Even 1 person should make a huge difference

[sonic forum]

No doubts!

[sly robin]

can someone explain to me what the units means ?

[small galleon]

Oh get well soon brother.

Also I'm down as a crew member

[spare cloud]

Depends where you look at.
At some places, one Unit is one gem.
At others, one Unit is one SCU. Depends on what side of the screen you look at and what the commodities are

[sly robin]

btw the roc mining should be waaaaay more benefic.

like 10x more benefic

[pearl juniper]

sometimes one unit is a 1/8 SCU package as well

[small galleon]

You guys can suck my unit

Tropic Thunder reference, don't ban me

[slender cedar]

who ever pushes the button to send it down. it goes to thier warehouse. they can also call it up and then have you send it down if you want to transfer goods.

[frank warren]

When it comes to salvage, whoever owns the salvage ship, the cargo will belong to them. That being said, as long as you are in a party, you will be able to sell the cargo no problem, once the party is disbanded, the cargo will become stolen.

[pearl juniper]

But if the party is reformed, it becomes legal cargo again

[frank warren]

Yes, this is true lol

Forgot to mention that

[cloud condor]

is trading with the Hull C still bugged?

[steep hamlet]

How/where do you sell weevil eggs this patch?

[cloud condor]

did you try grim hex?

[steep hamlet]

I mean like do i need to use freight elevators or anything or is it the same as before?

[cloud condor]

yea, put it in the cargo elevator and send it down
than you can sell it at the terminal at the admin office

[coarse ember]

same as last few patches, can sell at scrap yards, only diff is theres now elevators and you have to unload it

[ocean compass]

.... you dont sell eggs at grim hex. Please dont give misinformation

[steep hamlet]

Right

I have a 32 scu where can i sell that one?

[ocean compass]

Go to 1 of the scrapyards, find the elevator, lock the eggs onto elevator send down. Middle of scrap theres a place to sell

[coarse ember]

cant sell anywhere, elevators dont take 32, only up to 24scu

[cloud condor]

dude read i said: try
doesn't mean i was sure

[ocean compass]

You cant sell any 32scu drugs except for maze. Just throw it away

[steep hamlet]

Tough

No way to like split it up?

[ocean compass]

If you dont know the info then dont say anything?

[cloud condor]

@ocean compass get off my as, and get a life

[ocean compass]

Theres a maybe chance to split it up, if it was locked to a ship when it is hard deathed. Low chance but chance

[ocean compass]

Lesson in life young padawan, if you dont have the info/ dont know, dont say anything. Silence is more, a lot of times. Dont be so triggered when you get called out for giving misinfo

[humble merlin]

Not yet

Eventually

[sonic forum]

Like Haike said, you don’t. That’s trash unfortunately, waste it

[safe socket]

Is planetside mining back yet?

[ocean compass]

there's a chance to break it up when you hard death a ship. done it exactly ONCE :p

[humble merlin]

No official/intended way at a freight manager yet

They plan to add that at some point

[ocean compass]

anyway i found it amusing that Phantom95 sent me a DM asking me to f off lol

[sonic forum]

Thanks brother, doing my best.
In order to spend some time now ima go fitting my Taurus and spending 500k AUEC.

[pearl juniper]

all right I'm curious, what's everyone's favorite starter ship. True starters only, the sort you get with a ~$50-60 game package. I have kind of liked the cutter from flying it a bit during IAE...

with a wipe coming up, the starter is going to be relevent again for a lot of people 🙂

[ocean compass]

Intrepid prob best starter package atm. I liked nomad, but its passed the $60 budget you set

[humble merlin]

125A, 300i, Intrepid, Mustang Beta

[pearl juniper]

yeah, I kinda liked the intrepid as well when I tried it out. At least in theory. The cargo is a bit restrictive. I mean 8scu is great, but the two separate lifts are a little weird. "cool". But kinda weird. I had no trouble running an MRT in it though, so that's decent

[humble merlin]

Honorable Mention: Avenger Titan

Just because it can store a hoverbike

[pearl juniper]

also a good option

[humble merlin]

Hey @minor needle what can fit in a 315p?

[sonic forum]

The fact that no one here is proposing the Cutter gets me extremely surprised?
I got myself to the Vulture with it starting from zero. Not very good for combat, actually that’s not good at all, but for some light PVE it works. Plus it has very cool interiors and you can easily carry stuff around, including an ATLS

Awesome, cheap and comfortable vessel. Loved it

[humble merlin]

I just am not a fan of the way it looks XD Perfectly fine ship though and excellent starter

Alex did say "favorite"

[sonic forum]

Oh sorry i also forgot about the 1M quantum fuel, which is not a joke at all for that small ship!
@humble merlin i agree, the look it’s not the best thing, i love it, but it’s not for everyone i guess

After all, it’s a Drake

[humble merlin]

My gf loves it

She loves Drake in general

[ocean compass]

my initial starter was a 300i

i loved the white blue lights inside it

started my love for RSI + crusader ships

[sonic forum]

I cannot help but agreeing with it!

[pearl juniper]

this is one thing I noticed for sure. For example, my Aurora (and most other ships in this category) can't jump from Crusader to Microtech. The Cutter can. Yes it's a face only it's mother could love. But also I'm pretty sure it will hold 16 SCU if you are careful loading. 12 for sure. Which makes it a viable way to make money with low level hauling missions.

[pearl juniper]

the thing I like about Drake ships is... They all feel like Belter ships. If you get that reference.

[sonic forum]

16 will fit without problems. Did it more than once. But nothing more

Which is still more than good

[rotund linden]

Has anyone had issues with cargo elevators bringing up cargo bought where when you try to bring it up it gets stuck and is permanently blocked

[small galleon]

I'm biased about the Titan. It was my starter 5 years ago. Looks great but dated now. Cutter I like cause of Drake aesthetics

[sonic forum]

Yes. Not to mention that i already had every possible issue on the freight elevators.
If this happened to you on a mining outpost, there is no workaround from what i know.

But there is a way to avoid wasting your precious AUEC into the void.
The loop should be something like this:

• get off your ship
• test the elevators, find an operative one (that doesn’t show a permanent transferring to warehouse)
• go to the storage, buy some waste. They are basically always available
• return to the working elevator and try getting the waste up and down.
• if everything works, you can start buying your own commodities, knowing that the elevator works correctly.

Following this procedure i lost ZERO cargo during the last month.

It’s a bit tedious but it’s worse when you buy 700k of gold and you loose it because the elevators gets stuck and despawn your crates as soon as you try to get em up.

[rotund linden]

This is the loop I am in. I have 250 SCU of gold I cant retrieve

[sonic forum]

I do not remember if your stuff remains saved into that outpost, but what you can do is logging off not far from that outpost (use your ship bed) and keep logging back switching server, until you find one where the elevators are working. One time i solved the issue this way.

You got no other choice in any case because a clogged elevator WON’T start working again in the same server.

[small galleon]

My friend has the same problem. He has 120k profit of gold waiting for him but the elevators dont come up

[sonic forum]

Always test em before buying!! ALWAYS

[small galleon]

Once borked, forever borked?

[sonic forum]

On that server yes, absolutely

If you got a bed go at 20 kilometers, land and log off

Try logging back again and go to the outpost

Maybe the elevator now works

maybe

[small galleon]

There's a chance server hoping can take unbork?

[sonic forum]

Yes!

[small galleon]

I'll tell em hahahaha

[frank warren]

Only way for it to become unborked is for a server reset, which only happens with major patches. So you would most likely lose the cargo anyways

Also, if they don’t fix this before 4.0, that is gonna become a pain to deal with

[small galleon]

Do we have any info about 4.0 economy change aside from "Price change"

I'm really curious if all they did was prices and payout changes. Is there a deeper economy change? Supply/demand changes

[leaden reef]

lots of new mineables and commodities

[pallid talon]

Dont be shit talking drake i swear travis

[sonic forum]

I don’t!! I love Drake!

I mean that they are quite different ships, you love em or you hate em!

[pallid talon]

good man

[leaden reef]

oh yeah some youtuber found a place in pyro that sells weevil eggs

[small galleon]

Yeah I think Weevil egg will probably be way less profitable. That or you haul them all the way back to Stanton

[harsh peak]

Columbian Drug Cartel type activities

[knotty dove]

Like drug runs we had before

[small galleon]

Piracy is gonna go through the roof. I hope bounty markers will be fixed during 4.0 too. Balance both sides and what not

[leaden reef]

No comm arrays in pyro

[spring prism]

Does someone have the google doc of this so we can always be updated of it? Since it doesn't have the starlancer or intrepid.

[cloud condor]

i don't see the Polaris on it either

[spare cloud]

You can easily find it with the OP name.
I'm waiting for the Polaris to be added and the 890J grid to be fixed by OP (soon) to edit here

[sonic forum]

Interdict my Hornet and get killed!

[spring prism]

Oh right, I forgot they use gitlab and not github/google docs: https://gitlab.com/Erecco/a-study-on-quantum-travel-time/-/blob/7c10b58a5ebf11fe9a1f5cb4fe9e935ce919588a/misc/3_24_Ship_Cargo_Grid_Reference_Sheet_V1_3.pdf

[spare cloud]

Or reddit, or Spectrum too

[spring prism]

Still doesn't have Polaris or starlancer

And I got this from reddit

[spare cloud]

And 890J still wrong

[spring prism]

First result is the one I linked here, above.

[sick flare]

Why is mining in the prospector so bad in 3.24 and does anyone think this will improve with further economic balancing? Or will Prospector always be a ship where you can rarely find rocks the right size to crack unless you work with a team of other Prospectors?

[sonic fiber]

Oh

[hearty briar]

I think its cargo capacity is also very low for its value

[proud inlet]

hi there a quick question... ive been playing around with the rentable starlancer today saw on the page it has a Cargy Capacity of 224 is that meant in SCU? cause i cant seem to fit 224 or my placing was bad

[spare cloud]

It's the capacity of the cargo grid.

The ship can fit more if you use off grid space.

[untold rapids]

3scu high in the back

It's tight but it fits

[proud inlet]

Ye thats what i wanted to know ty

[proud inlet]

Okay ty o7

[spring prism]

Distro center Pads in action, in case anyone was wondering if they can be used:
https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/3yrgcegr254.jpg
https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/l7lxcone8g7.jpg
https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/84jdcqnk524.jpg

And yes, they have NPC Guards.

[honest grove]

For hauling missions - i encountered a location that was part of a mission, but there was no cargo elevator. Was the location just bugged? Was the mission bugged (like it gave a bad pickup/dropoff location)? It was an outpost on Yela I think - it was either ArcCorp Mining Area 141 or Shubin Mining SCD-1.

[crude thunder]

You'd expect a mining location to have a cargo elevator. How else would they move/sell scu

I've been to more than a few bugged locations. Couldn't find a cave entrance for an investigation because it never rendered in. Only a transparent hole in the ground

[ocean compass]

141 has missing freight elevators aye

[twilit condor]

Is it possible to sell one kind of unrefined material?

[frank warren]

Its all or nothing from what I know. If we are talking about minable materials

[twilit condor]

Thanks, first time doing mining with a prospector
I thought i can sell unrefined titanium and go mine better rocks 😅

[frank warren]

All or nothing is a lie. For refinding at least, you can refine 1 ore, but the rest will be trashed

Not sure about selling it raw. I believe it is the same, but i haven't done it for some time now

[median gale]

Selling raw ore is all or nothing

[twilit condor]

How can I check the prices before i do refine 🙂
I want to make sure if it’s worth it to go with the fast/high yield or should i just stay with slow/high yield

Note: when I said fast I didn’t mean the 30k cost
There is one for 10k and 8h time

[median gale]

Look at the raw ore selling kiosk. Price you see there is about half what you get from refining it.

[twilit condor]

Refine double the price 😳

Damn, thanks friend

[ocean compass]

check redmonster mining cheatsheet

then you know what does each process does

most people does dinyx, cheapest and highest yield, but slowest

theres a highest yield and fastest, but expensive, i forgot name

difference is usually 24hrs vs 8hrs

[twilit condor]

I liked the ferron one
Cheap and faster Also high yield

[median gale]

Ferron will cost about twice what dinyx will. When I was renting a cargo ship for transporting refined or, I would do about six jobs with the slow one, and then another six with the faster one so I could make the best use of a day’s rental on the cargo ship.

[twilit condor]

By jobs you mean contracts?

[median gale]

Refining jobs.

[twilit condor]

Thank you guys so much

[undone tartan]

can only the HULL series do the cargo loading outside the station in 3.24?

[rotund linden]

I did this. Jumped to many different servers across zones. Found one that would work.

[wheat sonnet]

is the mole good if its just two people, is it worth picking up if its just me and a buddy?

[warped glen]

Can you put 32SCU cargo boxes on the RAFT or just 8s?

[spare cloud]

It's meant for 32 SCU containers

[warped glen]

thanks, I couldn't find anything relevant to make sure that was the case but that's what I thought

I just found a video of someone stacking 8s on it

[spare cloud]

Check pins for cargo grid layouts

[warped glen]

I am melting and switching ships like every week lmao, just really trying to find my dig of playstyles

[knotty dove]

sameish got like 350USD of store credits to mess with

[warped glen]

I'm gonna stay where I'm at right now

I've got $240 because of a drunken order a couple years ago

I meant to upgrade my original starter pack for like $25 but I was looking at other ships and had a freelancer in my cart

💀

Right now I have an Arrow and a Gladiator and I'm enjoying combat

[knotty dove]

still better than me and GM Pioneer

[warped glen]

Both of my groups have carriers so, I ended up being a combat girl. Looking to buy another ship for cargo but probably with in-game currency

I originally had pledged the railen but after using the loaner Taurus I realized that large scale cargo needs PEOPLE

Even at Taurus level you need 2-3 people to handle it effectively

[humble merlin]

Funny you say this, when it is the #1 best pick for doing ERT solo

[warped glen]

I just mean for handling the load of cargo

Need someone unloading/loading while another person goes to handle admin

[humble merlin]

One person can do it. Yeah, it's not as fast as two people, but you could say that with any ship that can have cargo, even a Titan

[slim relic]

we get any word on refining besides soon tm recently?

[harsh peak]

(I Know this is not a star citizen video, but its relevant I swear, Its just the best way I could represent my ideas)

This is my concept of how the reclaimer cargo bay should be, the entire back should just be really tall "shelves" of containers (A grid thick enough to have the small end of a 16 or 24 scu container be on the grid, like in the video), and then they get lowered out the bottom of the ship, then as you remove the lower containers, the frame gets folded up to allow the rest to keep moving down.

[sonic forum]

When i did that @pallid talon and @small galleon called me crazy!

Feel you, this is the way!

[harsh peak]

Its definitley not a fleshed out idea (duh) but its just something that came to mind.

[humble merlin]

It's an option as long as you don't care about LTI or buyback tokens XD

[sonic forum]

Don’t care about LTI, everything i got has a 10 years insurance, which for me is absolutely perfect because i mean…… that’s not 10 months.
Life can and will change in 10 years, i do not really need to plan so much ahead of time

Clearly after this IAE won’t be so easy to catch a 10 years on everything so i’m switching and trying now that i can

[warped glen]

I've never had LTI

[small galleon]

You have an uncanny ability to talk shit to a ship and somehow convince me to buy simultaneously. Thats something only a crazy man would do!

[pallid talon]

Shut up noob

[stable current]

With salvage claims, I've seen videos of people running it and there have been things as big as Hammerheads and Hercules C2s, biggest I've found is the Connie though, have they changed them or are these just super rare to turn up? I assume super rare but want to check from people who may know! 🙂

[small galleon]

I've only done unverified salvage contracts since they're just around Yela most of the time. I've gotten a couple Caterpillars but no Hammerhead or C2 yet. @sonic forum Might be able to answer this better!

[stable current]

Ah ok, with the unverified it says you have X minutes, is that from when you accept it, or when you arrive or even when you get within the 15km before it "appears"? Thank you for the response so far! 🙂

[sonic forum]

Trust me, not rare at all. You just got unlucky. The HH appears quite often. If you don’t see it, just accept what you get and do that, during the salvaging check again every now and then, with a bit of luck you’ll get the contract (it gets refreshed every 10/15 mins)

[stable current]

Ahhhhh fair enough! Been checking often and have the 50k claims at least so just keep trying I guess?

[sonic forum]

You are checking the unverified contracts, right?

DO NOT pay for the salvaging contracts!

[stable current]

I've been using the paid ones, oops I guess that's the wrong move!

[sonic forum]

That’s the problem here

[stable current]

OK that makes more sense then, so with the unverified then with the time limit when does that start?

[sonic forum]

So the HH appears often in the unverified contracts, together with some Connie’s, some Cutlass, Anvil Valkyries and whatever

Get ONLY the ones where you get paid and not the contrary. You got 60 minutes, countdown starts immediately after you accept the contract

With the HH, you have all the time to fill 37 SCUs of material (more or less 24 in the cargo bay, 13 in the buffer)

Just try to be there and start around 50 minutes remaining, you should end the work at 10 minutes left

[stable current]

Gotcha, I'm using a solo reclaimer for this, I'm assuming that's the right call (obviously faster if I have a buddy or two online but that's no guarantee)

[sonic forum]

Oh, you are with the Reclaimer? This changes everything!

[stable current]

Yeah started with the vulture which was fun, but upgraded because Aliens is my favourite film haha XD

[sonic forum]

You can get the RMC only if you want more money. Otherwise you can swallow the entire HH at ease without even giving a single F about staying there. You are looking at about 240 SCUs of construction material

Which is.. a good profit. In 3 minutes

[stable current]

that doesn't sell for much though does it? Or do I literally need to fill the hold up?

[sonic forum]

The entire HH disintegrated is around 360k credits

Which is definitely not bad.

[stable current]

Oh damn!

[sonic forum]

Take note that you need a more complicated loop

You cannot land the Reclaimer where they will buy the construction material

You need to unload it at location 1

And moving the material to location 2 with another ship

[stable current]

I've been selling at Orison on recommendation from a friend, is that not the place then?

[sonic forum]

It is for RMC

but not for the construction material

[stable current]

gotcha

[sonic forum]

So if you get the RMC, go definitely to Orison because it’s also the safest route

If you get the construction materials, you need what i said above

[stable current]

beautiful, thank you! 🙂

[sonic forum]

Have fun!

[stable current]

I'll work out a good place to sell, I just need to get the hang of auto-loading and stuff (again seen Youtubers selling it all at Orison so clearly something's changed since then!)

[sonic forum]

Yeah the CM is definitely not sellable at Orison, tried myself 3 days ago, so i unloaded everything there, and moved it with the Zeus to one of those places

Take note: New Babbage was NOT WORKING. So probably the website forgot to update.

[stable current]

Ahhhhh fair enough, I assume you have to unload manually with this? If so any tips for unloading the reclaimer?

[sonic forum]

For sure

Pilot seat, open all doors, you’ll see the poop chute door on the back of the ship opening

Only way to open that small door is using the OPEN ALL DOORS command from the pilot seat

At that point, follow this video, because it’s way easier than explaining it:

https://youtu.be/C9E0maIeGyY?si=aEHmB-jcGajrTwMi

Works like a charm, once you get it

[pearl juniper]

is this new? It used to be for sure

[sonic forum]

Yeah it’s for sure a change happened during the last patch.

[stable current]

That explains it, Farrister's video was a few months old

thought that was new enough!

[sonic forum]

The loop now is a bit longer but it’s definitely worth it. You just need to spend some time loading and unloading..

[stable current]

That makes sense! So I guess I should grab a catepillar or something for the hauling?

and is it recycled or construction I sell at Orison? Just so I unload the right stuff!

[sonic forum]

RMC, so the recycled, that goes to Orison 🙌🏻

About the CM, a Caterpillar? Would be a good choice for sure, if you have a good cargo

Otherwise a Starlancer. If you have a smaller ship instead, you will need to go for multiple trips

I have a Zeus CL as a main cargo now, so i needed more than one trip

(Which is not bad at all, because if something bad happens i won’t loose everything in a single time.)

[stable current]

Sounds like a plan!

I assume I'm best to use the biggest containers I can to reduce time

[sonic forum]

ALWAYS print the 16 SCU ones

Then, when you got a bit of material left, you can print a couple of size 8 or 4 or 2

But prioritize the 16s

More than everything because the poop chute door of the Reclaimer seems to be meant to unload the size 16s containers

When you try to unload the size 8, it gets a bit.. weird

Causing problems

[stable current]

Gotcha, I seem to have gotten some stuff stuck in the poop chute oops haha XD

not a huge issue, I'm just getting used to it before it's loaded properly so I know what I'm doing when I have more cargo

[sonic forum]

Throw the boxes down IN THE RIGHT WAY (follow the video i sent you) and KEEP throwing them down, do not mind em making a lot of noise / being stuck, totally normal!

Just keep throwing em down and they will push themselves!

[stable current]

One is literally wedged between the poop shoot and the roof of the underside of the ship, it's kinda funny!

worst case if that one case is bugged I don't mind doing some server jank to fix it

one 16SCU box of con material will be fine

[sonic forum]

When you sent everyone of them outside, at the end you will still have 1/2 containers stuck, which is normal

Go to the pilot seat

[stable current]

also what QT drive would you recommend for the reclaimer? I see people mention the Erebus, the Atlas and the TS-2

[sonic forum]

Open / close / open / close that door some times

And they will go down by themselves

[stable current]

Gotcha, will try that!

[sonic forum]

Me personally? I do not have the Reclaimer anymore now but i got an Erebos for it, civilian grade A, because it has the fastest cooldown timer

[stable current]

Mkay, will look at sourcing that!

[sonic forum]

You know the ship it’s already slow, and it can cover big distances, since i used it mainly for money loops, i prioritized going as fast as possible, cutting every corner

So QT with a fast cooldown and that’s it

Then, i changed only the salvaging heads. Abrades on both heads

Because YES, absolutely, abrade = GOOD

[pallid talon]

Travis nub reclaimer user smh

[pallid talon]

Yeh its gorgeous and what

[stable current]

@sonic forum it seems you can sell at Orison, just sold it now

that's the construction material

nowhere near a full load, but just enough to at least get the hang of things

although I did just get an anti-cheat detected an error crash after a final attempt to push the stuck box free, I guess that flagged that which is fair!

[wheat sonnet]

you can sell CM at orison, at the tdd by cousin crows

[pearl juniper]

admin terminal (yes, by cousin crows)

[wheat sonnet]

oh yeah admin

[vestal ravine]

I was scraping and got the anti cheat boot out also! What the heck.

[small galleon]

I'm personally waiting for the 4.0 changes. Might just get the Reclaimer for CM. What's the duration per CM haul like? @sonic forum

[sonic forum]

Wat…..
How

It was definitely not working when i tried last time

If it works that’s awesome

I tried only one time, maybe i got a clogged / bugged server or something, thanks for telling me btw

[sonic forum]

You mean how much time you need to gather it? It’s quite fast, to cripple an Hammerhead you need more or less 3 minutes, then you need to print 240 SCUs of material in the salvage area of the Reclaimer

It’s not a long process honestly

Way faster if you got at least another guy with you

[small galleon]

So about 300k for 5 minutes work? Kinda nuts

[pearl juniper]

you were trying at the admin office not at the TDD right? Just checking

[sonic forum]

I totally forgot, but i think yes

[spring prism]

What do you think of this rework of the Railen? #star-citizen message

Since absolutely no one commented/replied on it, and it was completely ignored.

[small galleon]

@sonic forum I'm going to CCU my Taurus to the SL Max. Looks like, I'm the loco one now up in this gang

[stable current]

It's all good! I wanted to let you know especially as it sounded like you were taking extra steps because of it so that's hopefully not needed anymore!

[small galleon]

How was the salvage sesh?

[sonic forum]

Very much appreciated. Yes i indeed took extra steps, unfortunately. Now i’m not flying the Reclaimer anymore so doesn’t matter but for sure you helped other guys in here. So good catch

[sonic forum]

I would like to share an opinion but i’m entirely UNEDUCATED about the Railen. The only thing that i know it’s his purpose as a medium freight. I will take a better look at it

[sonic forum]

I got the Taurus with game credits, considering the absolutely horrifying interiors, for sure you will be happy to see the living space of the Starmax..
About the rest.. well, you will tell me

Hope you’ll like it, let me know!

[small galleon]

This sounds very..malicious

[sonic forum]

Nono i’m serious. As i told you, except the stuff that I haven’t really appreciated, it’s an awesome all rounder vessel. It’s personal, so spend some time with it

[small galleon]

I will definitely let you know for sure!

Worst case scenario, I get 40 minutes of break for 5 minutes of playtime when I crash.

[sonic forum]

lmfao let's not even talk about it, i had to reset my character today for the first time, but very cool that you do not loose anything

[small galleon]

Crazy that the expedited time for the SL Max is the same default retrieval time for the Taurus

[crude thunder]

I must call upon the wisdom of the professionals... I need to decide between a CCU chain for $168 for a Taurus.... or the exact same amount $168 for the Starlancer Max. I like the multi roll of the Taurus but I also like that the Max can carry both a full load of cargo and a vehicle ...but she ugly

[sonic forum]

Rush Microtech and rent both of em! You still have time

It will be for sure a good way to test em first hand

[crude thunder]

eww.. I gotta step foot in New Babbage and get stuck in the elevators

[sonic forum]

Well considering that i see your point very well

[frank warren]

Now wait a min

[sonic forum]

Ima give you my 2 cents

Go Taurus

[frank warren]

New Bab is a nice place

[crude thunder]

it is a lovely place, if only the elevators to the hangars weren't run by a hamster having a heart attack on a wheel

@sonic forum I'll test them both out, its a good point I should fly them both. I think the max just got hit with a nerf bat too

[sonic forum]

My opinion is based on several factors. And since you asked i will be more precise, i would go Taurus because it has a cool aesthetic, better cockpit visibility (even if not really top notch), 4 MFDs always in sight, better maneuverability, MORE SPEED, same amount of shields, bigger health pool, less general mass, same capability of carrying vehicles, extremely strong and way more useful during fights, more than good cargo capacity, more QT fuel, better insurance claim time.

Why i would go for the Starmax? Better interiors and bigger cargo grid. Done

[simple shuttle]

any chance mfds, speed and QT fuel will be balanced in favor for the max sooner than later?

[sonic forum]

Nothing is confirmed but if you ask me i’ll tell you that soon or later the nerf hammer will hit the Taurus

It’s too good to be true.

[crude thunder]

one would think the more speed/maneuverability on the Taurus is probably due in part its half the weight of the Max

[sonic forum]

Oh sorry, i forgot the tractor beam. Which for the Taurus is one of the coolest ones ever, since we are into #industrial-professions

[crude thunder]

visibility just comes down to Misc being lovers of Robocop .... lawd have mercy they love slits

[simple shuttle]

not gonna say the max doesnt have flaws...they are a lot, but for the current ccu chains its still a great deal i think

[crude thunder]

one could argue the Max can just fit an atlas in its spare hangar space and tractor isn't needed but you can't use the Atlas well in a space walk scenario

[sonic forum]

Without mentioning that at present time the ATLS can easily kill you inside the starlancer, due to a bug where you get shot forward at light speed if you enter it while it’s stored in the rear cargo bay

[crude thunder]

oh thats a new one on me, got any fun video clips?

[sonic forum]

Happened to me as well two times and there is a funny video on reddit, let me see if i find it again.

[simple shuttle]

that kinda adds to the fun factor of the ship

[crude thunder]

seriously, lot of game devs charge extra for the anal railgun special

[small galleon]

I'm a professional cheapskate. Not the professional you want. But a professional nonetheless.

My 2 cents: The Taurus is probably the most suggested and recommended ship from the community for all the right reasons. It's the best all rounder, maybe even too good. It does bounty hunting missions easily, it's almost tailored made for Vaughn missions (Makes easy work with Vaugh missions and the cargo to carry the loot after), doesn't fly too sluggish, etc.

But the reasons that I upgraded my Zeus to it is the same reason why I don't mind if and/or when they nerf it. It makes ships that is on paper, a tier above it obsolete. I think the case is even made a lot clearer with the release of the SL Max.

The SL Max has only 50 more cargo capacity than the Taurus while having a worse everything else.

[quasi forge]

hey for doing a circular trade route I should avoid planetary stops right? (excluding cities) I've only tried a couple times but every time so far, the cargo elevators are busted in one way or another

[small galleon]

I'm upgrading the Taurus to the SL Max because I feel like it benefits playing with friends a little bit more. It gets them involved more. They can take care of the bounties and I can just swoop in for the loot rather than them just sitting around the Taurus waiting to EVA and haul the loot then sit around again till we reach a scrapyard or something.

Biggest gripe with the Starlancer Max though, 40 minutes claim time.

[sonic forum]

Sometimes the freight elevator works. But OFTEN, they don’t. You can easily try going into planetary outposts, simply be aware that you might waste your time. I haven’t removed them from my routes only because of this

@quasi forge

[quasi forge]

but if I'm trying to be time efficient, probably best to avoid them for now?

[crude thunder]

ive been noticing the cargo lifts are getting stuck on the loading screen and I have to move the ship to another one

[sonic forum]

By the way analysis more than realistic and i agree, it’s TRVS APPROVED

[sonic forum]

Yes, definitely. But you might step on some good profits. Plan accordingly.

[quasi forge]

I tried doing a 4 stop route a couple nights ago, I tried all elevators on the same moon outpost on maybe like 3 different servers and they were all broken lol

[sonic forum]

@small galleon about your taurus review

[quasi forge]

(using sc trade for the route)

[simple shuttle]

thank you and @Nova for the pros and cons, i think i go for the max because i like the asthetics and because i have few friends for the bigger turrets ...i dont mind the cons

[quasi forge]

quite new to actual trading instead of those hauling missions, I love the raft even if its a little miffy at times, but the thing that was killing me is that it's cargo grid stacks upwards, so if you're trying to load anything < 8scu its an absolute pain

[sonic forum]

Maybe do that only every now and then. If you try to stay efficient avoid planetary outposts, if you are out for a longer run, definitely worth a try, especially if you plan on trading gold and similar

[quasi forge]

it is a beautiful ship, nice interior too imo

love the drop doors on the sides

[small galleon]

Fuck yes!

[small galleon]

Also, a great 40 minute break if you or the game crashes your ship. Make sure you got another ship to kill time with or a friend to drive you around for a while.

You know what, reduce the retrieval time significantly. That's it. That's all I want for Christmas

[sonic forum]

You already got the Max?

[small galleon]

Not yet. Staring at the button as we speak. Thinking about the 40 minutes

[sonic forum]

Yeah that’s bad. The only way for now is avoiding loosing it and getting an Ursa med in the rear bay, at least if you die during a run you can respawn directly inside.
If you loose it… yeah, 40 minutes of fun

[crude thunder]

honestly multi crew ships on the larger medium and up size really should already come with some kind of med bay, even if its just nothing more than a cryo pod style in the wall somewhere instead of a suit locker

[sonic forum]

What? You want a med bay into the MAX? Then how CIG will be able to sell the TAC???? They need to eat as well!!!!

[crude thunder]

doesn't need to be a whole bay, it can just be a med pod enough to stabilize you till the next stop but not regenerate that missing leg. We can make it a tier system of healthcare

surely there are freak accidents with moving cargo

[sonic forum]

It is for sure a reasonable point but from a commercial point of view i can easily see why they won’t do that.
It would simply interfere with dedicated medical vessels plus the tactical version of the MAX, which is the TAC

According to some interviews that i saw, it seems that respawning into rovers / ships will definitely NOT be a thing forever, enjoy it now that you can..

[twilit condor]

Im mining with a prospector and nothing is going to the cargo after I harvest
Anyone know why and how to fix it?

[median gale]

It was working for you before and now it isn’t?

[median gale]

Could be the ship took some damage and needs to be repaired at your hangar.

[twilit condor]

I end task the game twice, now it’s working
Thanks

[twilit condor]

If i store my ship and there is cargo containers inside it
Will the containers disappear or stay inside it?
*The ship is rented

I was happy to sell my first refined materials, I rented a cargo ship and flew to TDD
only to discover that I can’t move the containers with pyro multi-tool because it’s heavy

[sharp swift]

They will stay

[twilit condor]

Thanks

[leaden monolith]

Each of the cargo arms on the Raft is 16x2 in size. If you're hauling 8scu boxes then you can't stack them on top of each other. Other wise stand at the rear of the raft and just tractor your cargo to the spot you want. When tractoring the boxes just magically go through the arms. When the holo image is where you want it turn off tractor.

Quite easy

[quasi forge]

the arms are 32 x 1

I wish it was x 2

unless you mean 16 x 2 lengthwise

then yes

[leaden monolith]

I thought that is what I said

[quasi forge]

then yeah, the issue is just with 4scu, 2scu and 1scu's, the cargo grid right now is stacked from the bottom to the top instead of the other way around, which would make sense with its grid layout

that was the issue I was having

real tough to squeeze them above

[leaden monolith]

I haven't tried to stack vertically for a while. Last time I did it seemed to work either way I stacked up or down. It might have changed

[ocean compass]

just checking, you know RMC is sold at TDD while CM is sold at Admin right?

[ocean compass]

ever since i have been making big boy bucks, i only use maxlift 😛

[leaden monolith]

I have a nice collection of the different colored multi tools but I only use the max lift.

[placid quartz]

For reclaimer should i just focus on breaking ship for faster gameplay loop with decent auec

[quasi forge]

ah could be, as of right now theres only the placement outline on the bottom row, and either its extremely difficult to line it up perfectly, or its pretty much impossible to squeeze a box on top (in certain spots, theres a few spots where you can get it close enough to pop in)

[sonic forum]

Now i know, got educated by other guys above, i was probably doing it the wrong way 😞 no one’s perfect

[sonic forum]

@ocean compass

[stable current]

So was doing the Reclaimer drill with 2 friends last night (was going well, scraping away) and we got to fracturing. As I re positioned the ship my mate extended the claw, there was a sudden freeze and the reclaimer glowed purple with a purple outline then we were just in space and the ship vanished. Literally what happened we have no clue! Anyone encountered an issue like that before?

[harsh peak]

Either you somehow fractured yourself

or it blew up

[stable current]

Yeh, we were well clear of the wreck so didn't clip, I somehow think we salvaged ourself which is hilarious

annoying, but hilarious

[harsh peak]

really weird

[leaden reef]

purple means collision issue and ship goes bye bye

usually the offending ship/vehicle which is inside of another

seems like a bug if it happened due to the claw

[harsh peak]

Ohhhh yeaaaaa

I forgot about that

yea, the purple glow that comes up when the game is going to delete your craft from existence because its freaking out

yea thats most likely what happened

I have a love hate relationship with the reclaimer, its awesome, makes loads of money, and is one of the ships with the most character in the game, but my god is it a pain in the ass to manage the containers

two different cargo bays

tiny elevator

weird cargo grid that requires you to use multiple container sizes

[runic aurora]

they really ought to have given the reclaimer a ramp instead of an elevator

or add a drop chute to it that can fit boxes down it for loading in hangers or something

also when the hells the ATLS gonna be fixed to be able to pick up boxes attached to a cargo grid?

without it being a 1/50 chance

[small galleon]

LMAO

[stable current]

Is there any way to fix that issue, or is it a known bug? Just to avoid it again!

[stable current]

The reclaimer is so good at salvaging it even cleans itself up after!

[placid quartz]

A full reclaimer of CM only net 600k now?

[frank warren]

Yeah

[placid quartz]

damn so abrade scraping honestly worth the time then instead of cracking hammerheads and C2s

[frank warren]

I think someone was saying you could get 300k from a HH from munching it

With a reclaimer

But if you have the time and patience, I would still scrape it for RMC as well

[placid quartz]

just by cracking?

[frank warren]

Yeah, but I don’t know how accurate that is

[runic aurora]

there is nothing more painful than something like that happening

[latent drift]

This is where selling location data in game is going to be great. Find a rich rock you can’t mine? Pin it and either sell the pin or come back late with friends.

[coarse ember]

1 SCU sells for 1.2k last I checked so they would need about 300scu or about 18 16scu crates of CMAT so not totally unreasonable if my math adds up

[frank warren]

Honestly, was using numbers from SC trade tools and it was priced on a high of 1500

So that is what I used lol

Unless we talking about the HH

Ive spoken too soon

[coarse ember]

I was doing funky math
1.2 x 3 = 300 ÷ 16 got me 18.75

I should probably explain it a bit so it's not confusing to try and figure out
1.2k x 3 got me the 300k I then divided that 300k as 1scu thus the ÷ 16

Honestly I'm surprised how well my brain maths when it comes to SC, I fucking suck at math for anything else

[sonic forum]

Me! To be precise, 360k! That’s around 240 SCUs of construction material for the entire HH

[sonic forum]

More than accurate!

[placid quartz]

how long was the entire process from crunching to selling?

[frank warren]

Munching isnt that long in general. Prob 5-10 mins to do and then processing the boxes and what not depends if you are solo or have a crew to help

Same as selling, as Auto Unload is buggy, you would want to unload it manually first

[vestal ravine]

I had my Reclaimer out 2 nights now and concentrated on RMC by doing 4 16 scu size crates. Then I fractured a 600i for the CM and will head back to sell soon. For 4.0 I asked about the RMC price and not sure this figure is totally correct but they said 7-8 K per scu. Have not heard what CM is. In the past I have done several runs getting CM only as that's a pretty fast game loop and generally worthwhile.

[fresh obsidian]

Any hardcore miners out there that could help?

[supple plinth]

What’s the written/unwritten rule about salvaging in a non- armistice zone? If there’s ships all about and no players, but their shields are off, is it fair game to scrape or steal it?

[small galleon]

@sonic forum Ok. You know what? I'm actually enjoying the Starlancer Max.

It's not as slow as I thought it would be. I thought it would be CRAWLING. Maybe I just had a very bad expectation. The 15 minute expedited claim time is still my biggest gripe. No regrets so far a couple hours in.

[sonic forum]

You like the aesthetic?

[small galleon]

Color scheme is a little to dark for me? I prefer the Zeus' where it's a little brighter and some contrasts sprinkled in. It's very monotonous? I guess. It's very gray lol. The design though I don't hate it. Seems like a great smaller ship to just bedlog and live off in deadspace if that was a viable way to play with a group.

[sonic forum]

Try some cargo hauling with it, worth it
Let me know once you try it more!

However

How did you get it? You upgraded the Taurus?

[small galleon]

Will do! Did some bunker hopping just to see the landing and taking off in and out of atmosphere. Don't hate it for now

[small galleon]

Yeah! lol. I said fuck it, might as well just rip the bandaid off.

Then realize I don't even do Vaughn missions

[sonic forum]

Ushhh… giving the Taurus was a strong decision..
Allright, hope for the best!

[small galleon]

I don't hate it too much right now, but when a wipe comes without any other ship, it'll get interesting for sure. We'll see! I'll keep you in the loop. Hopefully I won't break your record and just go "Melted it"

[nimble ledge]

Where can I mine with prospector? All asteroids are too big

[pallid talon]

YOU GOT THE MAX

[small galleon]

Yup!

[pallid talon]

HOW IS IT

[small galleon]

WHY ARE WE SCREAMING?!

I'm enjoying it so far! Nowhere as slow as I thought it was gonna be. I don't know, it feels and flies like what I think a cargo ship should fly like (Even though it's not even listed as such in the website) Wondering if the bigger ships will be tweaked too. Not a fan of the idea of bigger ships with almost 2 times more cargo capacity can fly faster.

[pallid talon]

Yea

It could be tweaked

My annoyance is the landing lights dont work 😭

[small galleon]

I didn't even notice! Dammit.

I also am a fan of the living quarters and the little living space. When bed logging for party members/friends are a thing seems like a perfect ship for it too. My biggest gripe is still 40 minute claim time

[pallid talon]

Yeh the claim time is a little

But I just watch videos when claiming 😭

[small galleon]

lol! The Hercules only has 20 minutes with 522 SCU of cargo capacity and is faster. How does that even make sense

[small galleon]

I wish they'd cut it to at least half goodness it's crazy

[pallid talon]

Reclaimer has a 10 minute expedite but is 3x bigger than a max

But max gets 15

[small galleon]

Oh my goodness. You shouldn't have told me that. I feel defeated

[pallid talon]

😭

[wind pilot]

Toilet in hab 4 doesn't work either

[small galleon]

Well, here we go. Here's the spiral

[wind pilot]

I got another one for you!

[pallid talon]

[wind pilot]

Both elevators have different touchpads.. And both are different color from the rest of the ship.

[pallid talon]

Thats fine i can live with it

[limpid sluice]

I'm expecting that we'll see an adjustment of claim timers soon, generally an increase particularly in older ships

I wanna even say CIG talked about it, but i can't remember for sure

[small galleon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcZzlPGnKdU

Yeah if we go by latest ship release= Direction of where CIG is starting to lean into.

I can see claim timers increased, (specially with ships having no HP and engineering) and bigger ships being slower and tweaked

But if we're completely basing it on the SL Max, imagine the speed of the Hercules. Or the Hull D lmao

I also would like for mining to be a lot more profitable considering the extra steps you have to take and time until you get the payout.

[pearl juniper]

try places with lower average mass numbers, you should find smaller rocks / asteroids there. Also give planet / moon mining a try. Larger clusters of rocks and often each cluster has a decent spread in sizes. https://redmonstergaming.com/mining-cheat-sheets/

[median gale]

The moons Cellin and Lyria are both good with the Prospector. Changing the default mining head to something better and using modules helps a lot.

[supple plinth]

ICYMI: 🚨💥
What’s the written/unwritten rule about salvaging in a non- armistice zone? If there’s ships all about and no players, but their shields are off, is it fair game to scrape or steal it?

[wheat sonnet]

my middle mole laser wont turn on, but my other two works fine, anyone know why?

[tall linden]

Nice. I'm waiting for my Terrapin BIS paint to show before I finish my MAX ccu chain. I bought the MAX first with store credit to test it out. There are some cons, and yes I considered the Taurus, but for my needs I wanted a ship that can carry cargo and a Nursa at the same time.

[frank warren]

If you don’t get a crime stat, then it’s no longer owned by a player and you are free to scrap it, if you get a CS, then it’s still owned by someone.

When it comes to fair game, you can do anything you want, I stole a fully loaded Hull C from Port Tressler. Anything can be fair game lol

[hollow sedge]

is there a way to sell 32 scu sized boxes of drugs?

[coarse ember]

For now nah, when pyro is in allegedly those places will take 32scu I've seen here

[small galleon]

Apparently, RMC value is reduced

[frank warren]

Yeah, I think someone was saying the other day it was around 6-8k per scu

[small galleon]

Yeah! CM on the other hand got a much needed value increase

[frank warren]

Oh?? It did?

[sonic forum]

What? How much?

[frank warren]

To be fair, it really needed it. There was no point to munch on a vulture

[coarse ember]

At checkmate in pyro at least 1 SCU sells for 2.6k not sure if it sells for more or less at the other stations

[small galleon]

Apparently decreased to around 8k per SCU? I think