industrial-professions

[obtuse flower]

Is there a way to have them sold directly from my ships cargo or do i need to remove them manually

[pallid talon]

Put them on the freight elevator manually I think

If auto loading thing dont work

[obtuse flower]

I don't know how to use auto paint

Loading

Where can i sell stims and distilled spirits

[pearl juniper]

admin office I believe

[pallid talon]

@sonic forum i love my max so much i cant stop loving it 😭

[sonic forum]

I was about to write in here about a very sad moment, I refunded the Starmax. I feel very sorry about it because it’s an awesome, well designed ship. And it deserved my money.
The reasons for this decision are several, first of all I discovered myself not being a fan of handling large size vessels, secondly i really overestimated the aesthetic of it. Which is for sure particular and someone will love it entirely, but i’m able to love only the front aspect of it!!!!

And that’s it. I’m very happy you love yours, it’s deserved. I need to find something that clicks more with me. Sorry for the little rant

[pallid talon]

Oh my god

Im heartbroken

[sonic forum]

Yeah i am a bit too, because the functionality of it is awesome. I love the enormous cargo grid. But i think i’m not the only one that really looks at the aesthetic of a ship

Maybe for me it’s excessively important? Who knows

But yeah, that’s it

[pallid talon]

I do for sure but its grown on me

When my landing lights are fixed im a happy man

My only hate is the cockpit view its like sitting at a dining room table for 20 😭😭

[sonic forum]

That’s another thing i really dislike.

But in the end it’s acceptable, terrible, but acceptable

[pallid talon]

What are you going to get instead?

[sonic forum]

I mean i was feeling guilty because the Max took me away a decent amount of money and i found myself using the Zeus again and again! For what i paid, i noticed myself not getting really tied to the Starlancer. So i realize that i can get something that makes me happier

[small galleon]

Oh wow. Thanks for the update man

[sonic forum]

That’s the difficult question, i’m on it since 2 days, still not sure. I need more time and luckily we are into the IAE

[pallid talon]

I wasn’t a fan of my zeus

[small galleon]

I've been missing the Zeus as thr daily driver for a week now. Love the aesthetic if the Zeus. Taurus is just in a really damn good spot right now where it does everything really well.

[sonic forum]

I really wanted a Taurus, but i won’t because after coming from newer, detailed ships like the Zeus and the Starlancer, i would not be really happy with the low quality interiors of it. So i will buy one directly in game

For my BANK ACCOUNT moneys? For the size of the Starlancer, i would absolutely love only one ship. Only one.
The Caterpillar

[pallid talon]

Tauras is goated the connies just have so many mfds in the way and the struts on the glass are blinding

[pallid talon]

I have a caterpillar

Do you want to test it?

[sonic forum]

The Taurus is awesome and i agree. I rented an Andromeda yesterday just because wipe incoming so i’m wasting my moneys and i used it way more than the starlancer. Ridiculous.

Love the Connie

[sonic forum]

I would love to when you are able. I used to fly the Cat 2 years ago, i’m a huge fan of it. But i don’t remember a lot nowadays

Time has passed, we got a new cargo system and whatever

[pallid talon]

Im able to now?

[sonic forum]

I’m here!!

[pallid talon]

My ign is Rowshy let me load up

[sonic forum]

Thank you for the help 💓

[small galleon]

The Zeus CL's cargo grid being a hassle to do medium cargo contracts was what made me pull the trigger. But after the Taurus I havent even been doing hauling missions. Lol

I want it back

[sonic forum]

I can see your point. I like the ZS so much that i would not mind getting even the ES, because i know it being a design that i keep flying

I got the one with LTI, not gonna change it

Don’t care

[sonic forum]

You got a request, take your time brother

[pallid talon]

invited

[sonic forum]

I’ll get a server myself??

Oh you started it

See you there!

[rustic reef]

how do i fuel ships with the starfarer currently?
the console in teh back left corner is dark and the one above the fueling boom is dark aswell, am i missing a power setting?

[untold rapids]

is autoloading a flat SUC/sec or is it based on ship size?

[feral steeple]

God c2 still broken lol

[crimson mantle]

It's based on the size of the box. 1x32 SCU is cheaper to load than 32x1 SCU boxes for example.

[sonic forum]

@pallid talon thank you for giving me this monster for a while ❤️

[pallid talon]

welcome

[sonic forum]

for future reference

[pallid talon]

good lord

[sonic forum]

so it was definitely underloaded

[pallid talon]

im buying a corsair rn

[sonic forum]

tomorrow if you are on let's do a ride with it

[sour folio]

I'm thinking of upgrading my Zeus MK2 CL to the new Starlancer Max. I'm a solo so I'm just wondering what it's like as a solo for cargo hauling with loading & unloading + just solo use

[sonic forum]

I do not have problems unloading and loading it in solo but the mass of the fatlancer is WAY higher than the CL. To load it entirely in solo you will need to go around the ship several times to fill all the sides of it (central bay right and left plus rear bay). Capacity is BIG.

About the rest, yes, it’s soloable. Not as much as the Zeus or a Connie taurus, but it’s doable. It would prefer a crew tho, IMO.

[leaden flume]

anyone got a good loop for the hull c

[clever pawn]

does anyone know the best SCU boxes and how many of them to get to best fit the starlancer max? cant seem to find anywhere that helps or gives you the information

[sonic forum]

I know something

If you want to respect the cargo grid, the rear section of the fatlancer takes 2x size 24s boxes

One left one right

On top of them you can stack several size 4 boxes

In the center, the length of the cargo bay allows you to get one size 32, and one size 16

Repeat this for both left and right

On top of them you can stack again multiple size 2 or 4. Nothing taller, so size 8s won’t fit

[clever pawn]

i did 14 of the 16 SCU boxes before just because it seemed easier than needing to stack stuff but it just seems awkward trying to efficiently fill all 224 SCU its meant to

[sonic forum]

The rear cargo bay is easy to handle, very easy. You can fill it as you like, and ignoring the grid will get you a lot more cargo.
The central bay is something a bit harder. Once you filled the left and right sides, accessing easily the cargo grid above em it’s not really comfortable

I mean you can do that

But it won’t be a 2 minutes work

[leaden monolith]

Just using the cargo grid you can fit 2x32 on each side middle, 2x32 in back (1 each side) and 4x4 on top of each 32 in the back.

[pallid talon]

STOP BULLYING MY BABY 😔

[sonic forum]

It’s a lovely name

[pallid talon]

Do you by chance know what vehicles can fit in the back

I know the ursa can

Seeing the expo with the ground vehicles has got me thinking cuz they look cool af them jeeps with guns and the tanks

[sonic forum]

Mirai Fury can if you want something that flies, i carried one all the times, clearly also all the motorbikes, all the Tumbril’s will fit

Ursa rover as you said it fits

Krueger small snub fighters will fit

[pallid talon]

Someone said a ballista

Idek what that is

[sonic forum]

More or less, i’m not sure, it could, but the Ballista is very long, is a multi wheeled APC

[pallid talon]

Thats sick

[sonic forum]

If you retract the main gun MAYBE even the tank can fit

But it would be a bit dangerous for the ship

So not the best idea

[pallid talon]

I do wanna test out some commodities maybe

Even some vehicles in the back for whatever lol

Maybe bunkers

[sonic forum]

Medical pisces fits, which is incredible, but very difficult to get it in there

So another not so good idea

[pallid talon]

Yeh im not gonna try that lol

[sonic forum]

But yeah as you can see you got PLENTY of room for almost every ground vehicle. You should try. With the majority of them you still got space for cargo

For example if you fit the Ursa you still have room on the cargo grid

[pallid talon]

True

[sonic forum]

Versatile whale!

[pallid talon]

😭😭

[pallid talon]

STOPPP

[sonic forum]

How do you feel about the MFDs?

[pallid talon]

I love them out the way

I hate my tauras mfds all in my face and the left one flickers cuz the bug

[sonic forum]

I see, for me it was the thing i hated the most of the starmax, one of the few things

[pallid talon]

Wha why

[sonic forum]

Maybe 4 MFDs in your face like the Taurus it’s too much (i do not dislike it, personal) but zero it’s very uncomfortable..
The classic Lancer layout is very clean, two MFDs on the sides, without exaggerating

The Starlancer was perfect during the test phase, but they really wanted to ruin the dashboard before release

[pallid talon]

What did they change after the test phase?

[sonic forum]

They removed the holographic MFDs entirely plus the fatlancer had also another window on top of the cockpit!
If you look up you see some kind of an hatch, it was a window instead!

[pallid talon]

Wha

[sonic forum]

Very cool, the cockpit was a bit less “closed”

[pallid talon]

Why would they change it

Who told them to

[sonic forum]

Have no idea, i haven’t followed the development closely, just saw some videos during the test phase, the window was very cool, but yeah i mean it’s not something necessary

But the MFDs, yeah i was a bit annoyed because of that

But fine

[pallid talon]

Sadge

Only thing I think is wasted space the multiple habs

The elevators in the cargo bay

I never use them lol

I always use the front one

[sonic forum]

Here you go, it was perfect

[pallid talon]

Kinda cool

Yea

[sonic forum]

I appreciated them, i like elevators and i used em both, i hope that one day the room with the escape pods will get some functionalities, otherwise that one will be really wasted space

[pallid talon]

Yeh its like that in alot if ships

Escape pods look awesome and the suit lockers

[small galleon]

Anyone had any problems with the ATLS not being able to lock onto SCU boxes?

[pallid talon]

Nop

[small galleon]

WTF is this shit

Every. Single. Time. I do a hauling contract it borks one way or the other

[patent wedge]

Does anyone know what the keybinds for looking around are in the atls? I want to bind these to my controller for easier cargo management while laying in bed in a reclaimer, but i cannot find what the look left/right/up/down keybinds are

[mild pumice]

It's just free look, holding Z, I'm not sure you can actually bind then to seperate buttons

[normal jetty]

Looking to start learning trading anyone have any advice on routes and resources for medium sized hauling ships?

[near swallow]

Try getting really close. Or try using a different tractor beam.

[sonic fiber]

I would do some missions first. No risk while you're learning the mechanics

[pallid talon]

@sonic forum I got my scorpius corsair, redeemer, reclaimer, retailitor and eclipse now

[small galleon]

No dice. It works when it's outside the ship's grid. Once it's locked in the ship's grid it borks out.

[near swallow]

Make sure, when trying to grab containers, that you're starting from one end of a line of containers. If you try to grab a container that is in between two others, it may not be able to move.

And even then, some ships just make it hard to get containers out. (300i, Aurora)

[small galleon]

A normal multi tool works fine. The Max lift has the same problems, but left clicking the crates work. The problem with the ATLS is it doesn't have the same mode.

[small galleon]

It's not that it can't move, the ATLS doesn't even look like it knows there's a box I'm pointing at. Unfortanately this is the same with the Zeus and Taurus lol

[pallid talon]

Are you using the right keys

Cig changed the tractor binding again

Right click used to be attaching to grid now its left click

[small galleon]

I don't think the ATLS has a second mode right now

[pallid talon]

[small galleon]

Am I missing something?

[sonic forum]

Today i had the terrible idea of going to the IAE expo for a little walk with my torpedo burrito and i had also the terrible idea of renting the Retaliator

Now i cannot stop flying it

This thing is amazing on every level

[pallid talon]

is it really?

I havent tried it

[sonic forum]

Is it a total mess and they are also giving it away WITHOUT the modules! Which is ridiculous

But apart from this

Man this thing looks awesome

I love it but i have weird tastes sometimes

No pilot controlled weapons, which can be a bad thing for a lot of people

You do control the torpedoes at least, and they are huge..

It’s also compatible with this cargo channel in discord because it has 2x cargo modules!

[pallid talon]

how big are the cargo modules

[sonic forum]

74 SCUs if you mount both rear and front

Definitely not a lot

But still impressive considering it’s a damn bomber

[pallid talon]

[sonic forum]

Pods can be swapped and even mounted in different configurations, for example cargo in the front and torpedoes in the rear

Modularity is fantastic

[pallid talon]

my one hate is no pilot controlled weapons

and the modules being all fucky

[sonic forum]

I absolutely agree

But this thing is now pushing me on the edge completely

[pallid talon]

😭

[vestal ravine]

Can't get the torpedo modules to actually load in the torps it's good at collecting hanger dust.

[sonic forum]

I would need more testing but CGI has smoked something strong and they are not providing the modules!

I’m moving to the Redeemer. Let’s take a look at that

[small galleon]

Have you pledged a Vulture yet? I kept looking at ships to buy completely forgetting to pledge the Vulture, but then realized the economy changes and I'll probably wait for the wipe

[pallid talon]

starlancer max>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[sonic forum]

I’m in your same position
You want to know why i haven’t got the Vulture? 4.0

Who tells me that salvaging will sill remain SO profitable?

Economy will change a lot

[small galleon]

Oh fuck me. I hope they keep it as is

Apparently armors will be so much more expensive.

[pallid talon]

stanton is supposed to be meh money

pyro is gonna be more money

but its completely lawless

[small galleon]

Well, time to form a crew of pirates

[pallid talon]

my friend played the eptu and got killed in his medical gown in pyro last night

[sonic forum]

CIG is more than able to turn salvaging into something that will give you 100k per run

I don’t trust em…….

[pallid talon]

😭

not safe anywhere in pyro

[small galleon]

That sentence just brings pain.

Here's an idea, CIG. Why don't you make other jobs more profitable? Don't. TOUCH IT

[sonic forum]

Maybe i’m wrong but who knows?? Considering that 4.0 appears to be not far from now, at this point i prefer to wait!

I’m tired of redundancy, my Zeus is doing everything related to cargo, i could at this point get a ship more focused on combat

[small galleon]

Not gonna lie though, mining doesn't seem to bad if it pays a little bit better.

[small galleon]

That's where I'm at with the Taurus! I've been annoying people with fighter ship questions lol

[sonic forum]

AEGIS goes strong man...

this stuff is awesome

they are really selling me one of them now

[small galleon]

Damn that looks badass

[sonic forum]

The tail of this thing man

Absolute beauty

[olive basin]

whats the best thing to trade rn?

[sonic forum]

Gold, Hepaesthanite, Laranite, this kind of stuff

[olive basin]

aight thx

[pallid talon]

you pledging a redeemer

[sonic forum]

I would without waiting a second! But very unfortunately i cannot cover the price with only the Starlancer refund

[pallid talon]

how much is it

[sonic forum]

330 euros here in Europe

So 340 bucks or something?

[pallid talon]

f

[wind pilot]

Just did the quest the Academy told me to do.

Still no stamp

[humble merlin]

I've done 4/5 and no stamps, idk if the page is working or what.

[mild pumice]

They're being attributed in batches, you'll get it at some point

[tall karma]

It's ideal to wait a while on that because the redeemer is just in a bad place right now.

[kindred vine]

Was trying to buy cargo at the commodities trader but it said the 890 was not a valid target. Is the ship borked right now in terms of cargo or do I need to buy empty SCU crates first?

I am at a station with a Docking Port so no freight elevator

[pallid talon]

Well he pledged a reclaimer instead

[wind pilot]

didn't even do mining this IAE, but i did before... lol

2/5 rn

[ocean compass]

so many things here. lemme go through for ya.

1. Looks like you were trying to go for autoloading. First step of autoloading - STORE the ship. Second step - Select the ship from the drop down bar & buy the cargo from commodity (NOTE: Drop down bar is bugged, would need to select through it all to find the correct selection. You know when its the correct selection when the cargo count is correct).
2. Empty SCU crates are for manual storing of items etc so nope you dont need those. Its more for like for example, people going to a bunker looting guns/armor, they would bring one of those boxes so they can store the guns/armors they looted.
3. Stations always have a freight elevator. So does cities.

[pearl juniper]

You forgot step 4 of auto loading:
4) Don't be surprised when it takes your money and you go to your ship and find it empty.

[leaden monolith]

Lately I've found it to work well apart from the list being borked. At a space station with only the ship I'm flying I found the cargo grid of my ship by selecting myself in the drop down.
Buying or selling for me has been working well with auto load it just seems to be the list that is weird.

[pearl juniper]

yeah, the list is weird for sure. and I HAVE had it work for me. I've also had it not work 😦

[leaden flume]

so tryin to do a hull c run for the first point in a hot min but its not letting me select the hull c how do i fix this

[tall karma]

Make sure the Hull C is docked at the station

I would not store it

[leaden flume]

okk thanks

[leaden flume]

so docked but it would not let me buy for the hull c are they currently bugged

[tall karma]

Where/what are you buying?

[leaden flume]

processed food at bajini point

[tall karma]

Can you see the ship in the drop down when buying at Admin?

Try buying 1 unit less than max

Also make sure your Hull C is fully repaired

[leaden flume]

so hull c is fully repaired and docked but wen i select the hull c from admin it tells me to selecto a valid inventory to make transaction

[tall karma]

I have heard ship selection are broken. If you have other ships stored try selecting those and your own personal inventor, look at the capacity displayed. May be that the ship list is mixing titles of your ships up

If you find one in the list with hull c capacity that is the ship to use just mislabeled

[leaden flume]

Ok figured it out now to sell do I have to dock as well

[tall karma]

Yes, you have to initiate the sale via the admin console at the next station, and then undock and call cargo ATC to unload

You may have to hunt ship selections as well. Make sure the selection (whatever the name) matched the SCU quantity before selling

[kindred vine]

Another dumb quick question, I have my 890 stored on a station where I dont have a hangar only Docking Ports. I am trying to sell commodities but I get a message saying Transfer to Cargo Deck required. How do I do this?

[sonic fiber]

Lol I bought 4096 scu of waste to test hull c. Can I not sell it anywhere?

[sonic fiber]

Oh well I had a warrant out for my arrest anyway. Punched a cop, blew up my waste and went to jail

[pallid talon]

😭

[sonic forum]

@small galleon just noticed that the channel got merged, lmfao sorry for the late answer, i recruited some slaves from my friends and we were running the Reclaimer, like someone else said no panels, exclusively ships

[wind pilot]

Whoa whoa whoa, they combined chats!

[pearl juniper]

good idea. makes sense given that both mining and salvage also involve cargo hauling / handling.

[tall linden]

Definitely hold off as someone else said. I ended up melting mine in the spring.

[sonic forum]

Thanks for the suggestion but in the end i will hold off in any case, i got the ship i wanted, now my IAE is definitely done

If i really like something, game credits!

[frank warren]

Yeah, I am rocking my Mustang and that's it. Though to be fair, I'm from Canada, so the Mustang costed me $71. So I find it hard to really spend anymore money on stuff

[mild pumice]

So I just mined an Asteroid and got 0scu from any of the deposits, is this a new issue?

Was trying to do that for the academy thing

[tall linden]

Waiting for one more ccu to complete my MAX chain. Almost done my Perseus.

[mild pumice]

found an IC for it - guess I'll contribute...

[pallid talon]

what did you buy for the starlancer max chain

i may need it

[sonic fiber]

Ok did a real hull c run. Good money but definitely grind

They need to make it so you can buy sell from ship

Or at least from dock

[pallid talon]

so you spent 150 usd for that? instead of how much

[sonic fiber]

Man I hope you guys spending money on ships are debt free

[tall linden]

Mind you I've been saving CCUs for about 1.5 years

So a lot of the CCUs in that chain I didn't this IAE.

[pallid talon]

f

[wind pilot]

Best chain i've seen so far is 190 USD for a 750 USD ship

[pallid talon]

yes i am

[small galleon]

What is the chain?

[humble merlin]

It's one of Iris's chains I bet

[ocean compass]

imo easier way is to not dock when selling, go to one of the external hangars, EVA yourself into station.

[humble merlin]

@frank matrix what's your polaris chain? You have one don't you?

[craggy tapir]

Couldn't be anyones elses chain tbh

[hollow sedge]

we need an updated layout pinned

that has the starlancer and zeuses

etc

cargo grid layout

[zealous kindle]

Why this renamed to industrial professions

Also anything new for cargo or hauling this update?

[humble merlin]

Combined Mining, salvage, and cargo

Since they kinda overlap

[sonic forum]

Who is actually buying construction materials? Because contrary to what the cargo applications says, at present time i’m able to sell those only to stations, and never into the main cities

[violet plank]

where do yall go to mine with the prospector

[sonic forum]

I don’t do mining as now but i’m sure that asteroid belts is a right answer

[violet plank]

any specific belt you would hit?

ive played the game for years now but never once mined asides from the ROC shenanigans. figured id try it out and most google searches tend to be rather outdated

[cloud robin]

Check the Yela belt

[sonic forum]

I think that for now the only real difference is about the risk of being attacked, you got the same chances of finding ores everywhere. Yela asteroid belt if you want something easy to reach, otherwise deep space without marker points if you really want to chill

[cloud robin]

There's the Aaron belt

But yeah you have to navigate there manually

[violet plank]

wheres that?

[sonic forum]

I do not remember how to reach it, you need to drop off the QT drive at precise points during precise routes

Maybe someone here got a tab

[cloud robin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/s/K1plvslVKC

Check if this still works

[sonic forum]

(Thanks, i will use it as well)

[cloud robin]

Not sure if they changed the location of it or not in 4 years

But worth a shot

[sonic forum]

https://cstone.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes

Found this. VERY detailed

[violet plank]

i appreciate it alot guys

[small galleon]

Ah I replied to the wrong channel lol

[small galleon]

Look at us. Annoying tf out of people to the point where they just combined the channels

[sonic forum]

Hey man i heard that the Terrapin got a lot of attentions recently!

To me that thing is good only when turned into RMC!

[violet plank]

where would you guys sell ore thats easy? stations or?

[drowsy wing]

Hey everyone

Hey so i bought the hull D and using the hull C to try out cargo, I got my load from a station and now im at the next port and docked, when im at the cargo manager terminal I dont see the option to sell. Does anyone know why

[violet plank]

found aarons belt thanks

[drowsy wing]

My new issue is it jsut saying 00.00 for cargo transfer

[cloud robin]

Hull C is incredibly broken

I would avoid using it entirely, even though it might work sometimes

[drowsy wing]

Hmmm starting to think the hull series was the wrong choice for my first large cargo ship

[cloud robin]

Definitely is

C2 is the current king of cargo

[sonic forum]

Would love to help but i have zero experience with the C. But i agree with what Kongle said, the Hull C is famous for being in a terrible state since some time.

Well actually the ship is not really in a bad state, the cargo loading system is

[cloud robin]

That's fucking wild

[sinful breach]

jesus im drooling

[woven marsh]

What website is that?

[knotty dove]

i wonder how viable will Pioneer be as mining ship

[patent solar]

This is WILD. WHAT

[wind pilot]

Just need a printer friendly version

[near swallow]

Trying to get into the Aaron Halo belt? It's a lot easier with the new star map.

[craggy tapir]

There was a glaive referral

When

[wind pilot]

Holy shit

Free ship at 10 referrals?

stares at my 2 recruits

[remote trout]

that's a popular friend

[humble merlin]

This is why we use Alt accounts when referral events happen :)

[wind pilot]

Hmm

[craggy tapir]

You can get the gladius at 10 referrals
Blade at 100
Scythe at 200

If i remember correctly

Not scythe

Glaive

[modern agate]

is SRV towing still profitable?

[nimble ledge]

ofc bmm wb

Liberator -> BMM worth it?

[pallid talon]

#ccu-and-fleet-advice

Ask them ccu big brains

[nimble ledge]

wrong channel , soz

[gentle sedge]

Is it more profitable to go mining or salvaging

Asking as a new player

[pearl juniper]

Salvage is a bit better profit, requires less equipment, and more consistent. Mining is more fun and more complex, and if you get lucky can be more profitable.

[primal nova]

hey folks, where is a good place to go mining these days?

in a prospector, a friend was wondering

[runic aurora]

wheres best to roc mine atm?

[runic aurora]

i like yella belt, but reddragon has a good cheat sheet for the lot

redmonster sorry

surprised they let me post that

[waxen lotus]

Prospector or Vulture Atm ?

[spare cloud]

#industrial-professions message

[primal nova]

thanks!

[runic aurora]

depends, vulture for pure cash grind prospector for still good cash and more fun

[primal nova]

friends is looking for a refinery terminal now, how does that happen these days? 🙂

[pearl juniper]

same as it always has

refinery deck at most Lagrange point stations

[primal nova]

cheers

[gentle sedge]

I kinda already understand mining, and prefer it too. Since the next best way to salvage you need a ship that's worth alot. While mining hadonite can bag you ALOT of money early on

Then just rent a ship and start mining for fun 🙂

[gray marsh]

If the gems ive mined are already in the station do i still need to load them into the elevator for "manual delivery"

[sonic fiber]

Keep in mind mining needs a cargo ship too

[pearl juniper]

in order to maximize profits

[pearl juniper]

If you have already sent them down the elevator and they show up in station inventory, no.

[gray marsh]

i put them in the station from my backpack using the item kiosks

[pearl juniper]

that should be fine too

although I have never tried that, it goes to the same "place"

[gray marsh]

it says awaiting manual delivery to elevator but theyre already in the station inventory

[pearl juniper]

have you clicked OK on that screen? It always says that I think, but if it's already there it should take it.

[gray marsh]

i did, money seems to have gone up so i guess it worked

[pearl juniper]

good. I was slightly worried that I was telling you to just send it and it was going to take your gems and not give you the money as it sometimes does 🙂

[gray marsh]

I dont gem mine much, was just doing it for iae academy task, hoping it will register, thanks anyway

[hidden sky]

So where do you find like ships to salvage? Im finding panels but... I wanna find some ships.

[gentle sedge]

It's the salvage contracts you do

[pearl juniper]

right now, it's free fly week... there are ships everywhere. Go salvage in front of the garage at New Babbage, there were like a dozen abandoned ships there on my server last night

[gentle sedge]

Yeah

Basically, free money to those who paid for the game

[hidden sky]

You can just salvage those and not like get a crime stat?

[gentle sedge]

I'm not sure

[hidden sky]

I was just curious because I keep seeing posts of people finding like grave yards and im like oh how the heck do I find those

[pearl juniper]

it depends if they have been claimed or not, but I think in general you can get away with it. I think you can salvage in armistice zones, and I know I have salvaged while getting the "check fire" warning every few minutes and never gotten a crime stat for it.

[sonic fiber]

Provlem is the shields are still on. I've tried

I wish they'd power down and open all doors once inactive

[pearl juniper]

ahh, there is that.

[sonic fiber]

Heck. If they're real clever cig would make a salvage mission for every abandoned ship

[plain seal]

tractor beam it outside of armistice and soft kill them

[sonic forum]

Scan the ship first. Check the cargo. Be sure there’s no one inside. Shields needs to be OFFLINE.
Usually, at this point, if there’s no one and the shields are down, you can start chewing it up. If you want to be even more safe, use your tractor beam on it for some seconds. If you do not receive any kind of warning, you are totally good to go

If you want to fracture / disintegrate the ship at the end, take note that you cannot do it if the power is on. So you need to soft kill it first.

[limpid sluice]

If the ship is big enough, it can be worth the small crime of shooting a door open with a ballistic ship weapon to steal and salvage it too

[sonic fiber]

Yeah, just wish for a better way. Once owner goes offline, it shuts off after x mins, then it's free game

Salvage, scrap, steal

Of course that would be abused, so there has to be a penalty for claiming ships again

[hollow sedge]

Currently going through what feels like the rite of passage with the Hull C and docking/loading related bugs 😂

Note to self, EVA out at pads, don't bother docking

[frank warren]

Also, if you want into a ship, but can't shoot guns for some reason, just melee the doors open lol. Stole a Hull C with Cargo at Port Tressler doing that.

[sonic forum]

My small brain never thought of this

Not joking lmfao thank you i will try

[frank warren]

Even with Shields up, you can just walk up to doors and punch them open most of the time lol

[sonic forum]

I never understood if this thing about getting big armored doors open with a small caliber rifle was intentional or a bug.

[frank warren]

You are meant to shoot doors open, but I think they just haven't worked on how much damage they should really take to open. Because yeah, a pistol shouldn't open most ship doors, but it does

You shouldn't even be able to punch them open, but you can lol

[sonic forum]

Got it, yeah it makes sense.

[hollow sedge]

I learned a while back that you could punch your way into a Cutter with about 5 jabs, so I'm not surprised that's working across the board

pretty handy tbh

[dapper merlin]

how efficient is salvaging by hand? kinda wanna get into the jist of salvaging and earn my way up to the vulture.. or some other ship and skip the vulture and grind up to reclaimer

well, actually.. being a solo, vulture would do fine.

[pearl juniper]

you can't sell hand salvage

[frank warren]

Yeah, as of right now, salvage is only done by ships

[quasi forge]

Hope they bring in that oxy-cutter thing for opening doors and such

[celest jungle]

🫡

[wind pilot]

Reclaimer right now is 31.7 mil UEC

[tender bluff]

Would you rather a reclaimer + a small ship, or a big cargo ship and a mole?

[frank warren]

Reclaimer

[tender bluff]

Solid

[frank warren]

I enjoy salvage

And enjoy soloing the reclaimer

[sonic forum]

I’ll second this. For obvious reasons

[hollow sedge]

does anyone have the starlancer max cargo grid layout

[distant osprey]

I believe You can do 2, 32scus in the middle on each side. Then rear is a 32scu then a 16 deep on the sides and 2x 32scus in the 3 middle rows

[sonic forum]

The rear bay cargo grid is a 24*

[pallid talon]

[sonic forum]

No no i don’t want to hear!

Plus you are melting it!!!

You betrayed it!!!

[pallid talon]

I didnt

Im getting it back

[sonic forum]

Mmmmmmh i see i see…

[pallid talon]

I never betrayed unlike you

Traitor

[ocean compass]

all of you betrayed the connie for the new baby seal/whale!

the connie was, and is good to all of you...traitors!

[leaden monolith]

The rear cargo grid of the StarMax is 2x32 on the sides with 4x4scu on top of each 32 in he back. Off grid is a different story of course.

[wary ruin]

what do we use to know where to sell things in Star citizen at the best price?

[humble merlin]

https://sc-trade.tools/home

@wary ruin

[pallid talon]

Never the baby whale treats me better than the outdated ugly connie

[craggy tapir]

Never liked the Connie
Getting the 3rd layer on top was painful

[pallid talon]

The cockpit annoys me

Struts and shit in the way too many mfds

Its old and outdated

Then the mfd bug cuz im in 1440p hurts even more

[cloud robin]

I don't see the problems with the MFDs

I'm running 35" 3440x1440 and I've never seen this MFD bug ya'll are talking about

4 MFDs are also not a problem

And you'll get used to the struts

This is more visibility than a lot of ships tbh

[frank warren]

I like my Connie

Before the game wiped it on me 2 patches ago..

[crude thunder]

Were the 3 middle screens removed? Seems like they're in some videos but not others

[cloud robin]

The 3 middle screens were removed in 3.24.2

With the new MFD update

[ocean compass]

the struts are actually useful ok

instant orientation where is my ship location relative to target

i really really hate off-centre seats

^ this shows i dont drive 😛

[cloud robin]

I like the struts

[hasty lintel]

What's a good mining area?

[cloud robin]

The asteroids surrounding Yela or the Aaron belt

[hasty lintel]

Ty

[sonic forum]

Ima agree with 92.50 here, i run a 3440 as well, i very much like the 4 MFDs being in front of me at all times. I will test more during the RSI day, but those times i flown the Connie i had zero problems

[wind pilot]

The problem is with 16:9

[cloud robin]

Yeah, I'm on 21:9

[wind pilot]

I’m on 4K

[wind pilot]

Then again, I do use trackir.

[frank warren]

1080p gang, let’s go!

I honestly find the ship fine to fly, theoretically doesn’t really bug me

[wind pilot]

The window with power management is very dumb

No airplane ever has side scrolling mfds

[open plaza]

I'm doing salavge and I'm looking at a few panels but I can seem to be able to scrape them

[pallid talon]

Cuz its on 16:9 not ultrawide the mfds on the left flicker like crazy

#bug-hunt-chat message that

[sonic fiber]

Try the other side

[open plaza]

neither worked

but maybe they were already scraped?

[plain seal]

where are you scraping?

[open plaza]

i mean they looked good

at a lagrange point

[plain seal]

if they're close to the station maybe they were already done but that's unlikely

could you take a screen of one of them with the scrapping display?

[open plaza]

Already moved on sadly

[plain seal]

aight, if you encounter more take a screen you may be missing something

[open plaza]

is there a best loadout for the vulture?

[plain seal]

i personally use 2 abrade and 2 trawler, but you can replace one of the trawler with a tractor if you prefer.

for parts, you can upgrade shield and generator if you want, just take the best in s1 but that's not really necessary, qt drive are all the same currently so no change needed here and weapon don't matter.

[wind pilot]

Power off and on your ship

[open plaza]

is the cinch to small?

[plain seal]

kinda yeah

[wind pilot]

Yeah, 2 abrade works best imo

[plain seal]

this!
I also take 2 trawler for when i just wanna go fast but like i said, you can use tractor if you like it

[open plaza]

Nah I'll do 2 trawler 2 abrade

[spare cloud]

I just run full Abrade with 1 Tractor.
Ab - Ab
Tr - Ab

[open plaza]

why the tractor tho

[spare cloud]

If I ever commit skill issue and hit the ship I'm salvaging

[wind pilot]

Sometimes panels like to move

[spare cloud]

Can stabilize it

[wind pilot]

^

I go
Abr - Abr
Tr -

[plain seal]

also allow you to be lazy and not move your ship to see the other side of ship/panel

[wind pilot]

I’m to dumb on how to move the panels with the tractor

[open plaza]

uh I'm only moving the left module for some reason

[wind pilot]

You must have swapped while gimbal

[coarse ember]

if you've played alot of Gmod the rotation works about the same

Just with more oomph needed from your mouse

[ocean compass]

need help, where can i find the maximum size asteriod for each module combination

[wind pilot]

I have not

[coarse ember]

[wind pilot]

[coarse ember]

Honestly I only know how to do the rotation cause my friends would force me to play darkrp servers with them

[wind pilot]

Lol

[open plaza]

how do I select the disintergrator tool

[wind pilot]

Throttle ring finger up

(Idk the default)

[coarse ember]

Default should be right click

[small galleon]

Anyone know the exact changes to 4.0?

Economy specifically

Is mining better? Did they change anything at all?

[pallid talon]

Salvaging is worse

[inner sinew]

I got some Gold from a Vaughn contract where can I sell it?

[pearl juniper]

TDD

[hollow sedge]

salvaging nerf in 4.0?

[inner sinew]

Drake ships are sold and can be rented at Lorville?

[wind pilot]

Wait till thursday for free rentals 😄

[fickle dune]

Hi, So I am rather confused. I mined some ore. Refined it. Had it loaded onto a Freelancer Max. Went to Area 18. Stored ship. Went to TDD. Selected ship and there is no ore.

[median gale]

Unload the ore onto the freight elevator, send it to the warehouse, then select Area 18 at TDD

[charred aspen]

jeu de fils de pute

[leaden monolith]

Try selecting other ships you have stored there (or yourself) in the TDD drop down list. One of them or you will show the cargo grid of the FreeMax and then you can sell it.

[fickle dune]

I did. I went through all of the ships listed. Myself and Area 18. I moved it down the freigh elevator and Im heading back to try again.

Well it did work after I moved it down freight elevator and showed up in area 18 menu. So at least there is that. Thanks for the help

[limpid sluice]

Might I suggest, since this channel merged with #rock-and-stone maybe some of the relevant pinned posts should move over here?

[sonic fiber]

They are planning on fixing that right after making elevators always work

[neon obsidian]

that deserves a ban 😂

[cloud condor]

what are the best places to mine for gold?

[bold flicker]

anyone know if roc mining is working rn or if its glitched?

[south basin]

I was about to ask the same thing.

Because it seems broken.

[sonic forum]

I’ll follow the question because i want to buy one - in game -

[tawny zinc]

Sorry for a delay I was roc mining just the other day and hand mining maybe it's broken in certain areas I was on arial

[south basin]

Broken on MT. Laser passes right through small gemstone nodes and the ROC won't scan them either.

[marble crater]

did a bit of ROC mining on Daymar, was working well enough

[south basin]

How long ago was this?

[marble crater]

yesterday

when I popped the rock though there was no gem markers on the ground but I could see them and pick them up

wouldn't be surprised if it's server related though, they've been pretty bad lately

[south basin]

Yeah, who knows. I was going to give it another shot after IAE/free fly was over, but I'll try a moon since MT is generally fucked.

[wary ruin]

Where do I sell construction material

[craggy tapir]

here

[open plaza]

My cargo doesnt want to snap to the grid

anything I can do?

[wind pilot]

Try the other mouse button

[coarse ember]

Iirc right click is free-place while left click attempts to put it on any grid that it fits like expected

Right click is a bit annoying for free-place tho, gotta hold it or go into settings and figure out how to turn it to toggle

[small galleon]

wait what

[coarse ember]

Mining can be better depending on what you refine and sell

Salvage is simply a more consistent pay

[knotty dove]

mining is also good if you arent that picky and just focus on getting as much of sellable ore to refineries as fast as you can so you can sell it in bulk later

[sonic fiber]

Time wise, salvaging is better. Easier to find salvage, fill box, sell.

Mining is an hour of finding rocks you can't even mine. Then refine time, then haul to sell.

[hearty briar]

Salvage should have recycling, to simulate the mining refinery

[pallid talon]

In pyro

[wind pilot]

Like… the RMC you get?

The uhh Recycled Material Composite

[small galleon]

With the extra amount time needed to finally see get the payout from mining, it should make way more. Probably should make the most out of all industrial jobs

[pearl juniper]

not to mention the extra cost in owning a cargo ship in addition to the mining ship.

does anyone else use joysticks for ship tractor beams? I was playing with the Zeus last night, and I couldn't get tractor beam distance to work on anything except the mouse wheel. I bound it to a couple of joystick buttons, but the buttons didn't have any effect. Also tried binding it to a joystick slider axis, but it wouldn't let me bind that at all. Any workarounds besides running the joystick with one hand and the mouse wheel with the other? (silly, but it works).

[untold rapids]

I fucking hate this, every time i try to mine;

take prospector out
Find ROC sized rocks
take ROC out
find prospector sized rocks

[runic aurora]

yup, preach

speaking of the roc, i think it should be improved to shit out boxes that can me moved onto the cargo elevator and stored that way than taken out 1 by one for storage to sell the haul

[open plaza]

I'm guessing mining has more depth to it then salvage right?

[runic aurora]

absolutely yes

salvage youve only gotta be concerned with construction and composite materials with lasers that either prioritise area or effeciency for scraping, where as mining youve: heads, modules, gadgets (fuck them tho there useless and annoying) ores and gems youve gotta learn where they spawn and what there worth, the best refinement method, what places are more efficient at refining what

the list goes on

but its a lot more fun and engaging in my opinion

[runic aurora]

if you want all this bollocks condensing, theres a cheatsheet by red monster that ill leave the rar file here to download and have a gander at

(weather this is the most up to date one, ive no idea, but its a rough estimate)

[umbral ember]

raft or c1, cargo hauling, dont plan to see pew pew

[open plaza]

Ty

[pure vapor]

C1. Raft is limited to 32scu crates if I recall correctly

[umbral ember]

nope, it can carry smaller crates too

[sonic fiber]

Sure or make mining pay more

Damn I was liking the zeus, but that cargo ghold sucks! 128scu my rear!

[pastel flame]

Save that Bexalite fellas

[small galleon]

Yup! First time I accepted a medium cargo contract and a minute in I had to look for guides how to fill the entire cargo of the Zeus

[untold rapids]

I mean you alreadyt see those 1/8th gem boxes in bunkers so it would make sense

[hollow sedge]

I'm getting back in the game and I was doing salvage with a few guys, are there any new jobs? I'm still with a Mustang Alpha and trying to get cash up but It's been a few patches

[sonic fiber]

Just cargo missions

[hollow sedge]

And it's actually viable to start with a starter ship and do cargo missions?

I remember them paying like shit

[hearty wren]

does nitrogen get restocked?

[pastel flame]

No

[hearty wren]

i thought so

[pastel flame]

Restock is every 10 min starting at 5 past the hour. You will see the Waste go up.

[hearty wren]

5 in what time zone?

[pastel flame]

Just any time. It's in 10 minute intervals

0:05, 0:15, 0:25, etc

[hearty wren]

i see

so its currently 1156 where iam which means the next restock is at 1205?

[pastel flame]

Right

[hearty wren]

thanks!

[pastel flame]

o7

[hearty wren]

o7

[sterile tangle]

does the grimhex salvage of hammerheads still work>

i cant find the mission

[hearty wren]

i think nitrogen restock is bugged

or commodities refresh is not working

[shut coyote]

Does someone know what to do if you are trying to land in a facility to complete a hauling mission but when you fly there it's tresspasing and the turrets start shooting at you (I have crimestat 0)?

[tender bluff]

Contact the station before you land

[digital tartan]

anyone know a way to get nitrogen? seems to be sold out everywhere

[tender bluff]

Bugged it seems

As a reclaimer owner, is there a way to make planet living less horrible? Or should I just fly from a station lol

[untold rapids]

fly from a station, grim hex has the extra large hangar too

[sonic fiber]

Not with starter ship and they do pay shit

[sonic fiber]

Nerfed. Still there but pays way less

[winter flare]

hello everyone! I'm wondering if someone can confirm that Hull-C docking is still buggy? I've been trying over the last couple of days and been unable for the docking port to register.

I approach, perfect alignment, hold N and nothing happens.

(I'm aware how to dock and I've done so in the past, but I'm just asking in a general sense in case there are others who have experienced the same issue).

[wind pilot]

its bugged, fix will come with 4.0

or well...

[winter flare]

thanks for confirming.

[wind pilot]

at least for leaving it

😄

[winter flare]

like undocking?

[wind pilot]

yeah

[winter flare]

oh boy.

[willow tiger]

Soooo, with Stage 4, is Nitrogen just permanently unavailable?

[cloud robin]

Yes, known bug

Expect a fix in not too long

[willow tiger]

ahh, I'll get a new mission

[sharp swift]

Do we have to pick one type of phase 4 contract? Looks like it is from different factions

[cloud condor]

what are the best places to find gold to mine?

[pearl juniper]

https://redmonstergaming.com/mining-cheat-sheets/

[cloud condor]

thx

[sour folio]

Can you have loads of different jobs on at different refineries? Like 3 at HUR-L1 and another 3 at HUR-L2?

seems like a stupid question but I've never done it and don't really want to mine another load just to not be able to refine it

[ocean compass]

yes

[ocean compass]

no issues. just bring a cargo hauling ship to pick up the refined ores at both refineries later

[sour folio]

Is there a max ammount you can have on at once? Or could I have like 12-15 work orders on at once?

[ocean compass]

you can have infinite work orders

at least no limits that i know of

just be aware that whenever a new patch comes, the orders get wiped out

and you lose everything

[sour folio]

Decent, well im gonna do 15 work orders worth of mining tomorrow and set them up at the HUR & ARC L1-L2's

I dont think theres a new patch soon

[ocean compass]

yeah as long as your aware, do whatever you want

[sonic fiber]

Also you will go crazy

That's too much mining

[pearl juniper]

maybe not super soon, but expect the next patch to wipe everything. So unless you just want to mine for the sake of mining (which is fine)... Don't do it for the money right now.

[lament pewter]

hello citizens, monkey here.
im a old returning player from earlier patches and i am looking for a indy group that is also a chill group. chill but also able to accept that i am a filthy monkey that likes pew pew, and indy 4 you in equal measure.

i have a lot to re learn as MModes is still a learning curve. anyone willing to help a old monkey learn new game mech and in return for tolerating a filthy and some times a handful monkey?? i am willing to exchange some old school knowledge and resources for the honor. i has lots of gear and loot im willing to parlay with.

i want to share but i want to be valued from the beginning and not treated like i dont know anything. im willing to be taught anything i dont know with honest and eager intent. i just need to be respected for the older player i am. is there anyone out there that knows a solution to my dilemma? i am willing to share a lot for it ^_^ thank you for your time.

oh and even if they wipe it all, i still have things i am willing to work with to add things.

i dont like to mine tho, thats not me

[sour folio]

I think the next guaranteed wipe is 4.0 which they aim to deliver at December 31st. And yeh I'm just doing it as a "why the hell not" moment. I'm getting back into the game from a long break and just here to break stuff and mess about

[proud jasper]

do the hull C's still get special treatment with an auto load auto unload zone?

[hollow sedge]

why are the cleanup towing jobs not spawning? Also do they pay well once you do enough of them? im on 10k hammerheads right now

[ocean compass]

yes

[ocean compass]

known issues for salvaging contracts

not worth. just do panel hunting / insurance fraud

[proud jasper]

thx

[jagged wing]

Question for the hive mind.

How much should crew shares be for a mining, cargo, or salvage vessel?

[pearl juniper]

personally if I'm running a mole with friends, I take 10% "for the ship" (and to cover refinery costs), and then split the rest equally. But that's kinda the "friends" split, I could see doing a larger share for the owner and smaller for the crew if it's randos. I also don't pay till it's refined and sold with that method (mostly just because it's way easier, and the people I play with generally don't care).

[humble merlin]

For anyone having trouble with the cargo missions for phase 4:

Just do the copper, titanium, tungsten mission 6 times

Those metals cheap and always in stock (at least they were for me)

Bought like 90 of each, went to pyro gate, put a little on the freight lift at a time

DO NOT put all 90 of one commodity on it at once, it will not store the excess, it will take it all for the mission even if it only asks for 6

buy some 8's 4's and 2's till you're ~90 of each

[coarse cape]

is there a grid picture for the SLMax yet?

[full sapphire]

6x32s snap to the grid

[coarse cape]

ik but like a picture for the rear

[full sapphire]

Idk if there is a pic yet. But it’s pretty simple layout

[hollow sedge]

for hauling career via contracts how much scu should i have for the endgame/max rep contracts?

[pearl juniper]

Senior and Master is basically C2 / Cat / Hull C missions

[hollow sedge]

do u know if they pay well? Or is it more worthwhile to just do commodity trading at that point

[pearl juniper]

my experience was that they paid OK up to Senior. You could stack 4-5 small missions paying 40-60k each (at experienced) and make decent money. Then all of a sudden at senior everything is medium sized missions, like 400scu each, paying 90-120k. So one mission at a time. And mostly like 3-4 drop off points of 80-100 SCU each. So it takes like an hour per mission.

I think I only did one, so I haven't seen what it's like at Master but I imagine more of the same for slightly higher pay

[rotund flume]

does anyone have any info on pyro trading?

[barren timber]

Idk if this is the correct place to ask this question. I recently got the Hull C, was wanting to know what the most profitable trading routes are for it.

[rotund flume]

hull c trading is bad

bc broken

[barren timber]

How can i use it to make money then???

[rotund flume]

what ships do you all have cargo wise

[barren timber]

Just the Hull C atm. But i dont mind exchanging it

Whats the better ship??

[rotund flume]

if you get bmm it gives you c2 hull c and banu defender to use

[barren timber]

Bmm?

[rotund flume]

and when it releases the bmm itself will have 2.8k cargo space ontop of being a ship store

banu merchantman

[barren timber]

Is the c2 better?

[rotund flume]

yes also check msg

[rotund flume]

did you check?

[barren timber]

U talking about this one?

Or did u DM me something

[rotund flume]

dm

[barren timber]

Ohhh, give me a sec imma read it now

[fluid sentinel]

wonder how many people are going pick up the ironclad since they showed it during the ship citcon

tempted but I don't want to solo it x-x

[rotund flume]

went up for sale during invictus initially

[narrow kettle]

do we know how long it regularily takes for commodities to restock?

I mean surely someone does know 😂

[frank warren]

5-15 minutes

From what I last remember

[narrow kettle]

hmm alright. Sadly it refreshed right before my eyes, but still not enough to get what I need 😭

[rich siren]

It's in batches not all at once

[sharp swift]

For Phase 4, can I just pick up a 4SCU box if the contract asks for 2-3 SCU?

[limpid sluice]

Yes, you can over deliver and it will accept

[sharp swift]

ty

[full sapphire]

I lost all my hauling contracts and rep… will a character reset fix that?

[coarse ember]

nah, either have someone share a hauling mission with you and finish it or wait awhile for the hauling cert mission to reappear

[full sapphire]

I’ll try that. I was almost to master contracts

[junior berry]

Yo UEX down ?

[limpid sluice]

Keep in mind, 4.0 is coming with a wipe too

Wouldn't sweat too hard with rep and such

[valid lance]

current best trade route to make some quick cash? got a c2 and about 3 mil of capital

ik the wipe is coming but i want to try to buy a few ships before then still

[wicked storm]

how do I sell auto and not have to manually unload my 200 something scu of cargo

[candid bay]

Taking the prospector out of some mining. Anything I need to know or change it's outfit before heading out?

[crude thunder]

Don't go into the red line, be prepared to back up to avoid explosions

[full sapphire]

Not worried. I know a wipe is coming. Just wanted to see what new contracts brought. That’s all. Plus it’s a fun loop for me

[limpid sluice]

Fair enough, just didn't wanted to make sure you knew

[candid bay]

so what does quant instability means? I guess I gotta empty tank before timer expires

[pearl juniper]

yeah, you have that much time to get the refinery job started

[candid bay]

figured it had something to do with that

what happens at 0? cargo destroyed, or explode?

[pearl juniper]

ship explodes

[candid bay]

first haul in the refinery

[long pulsar]

are drugs removed from sc-tradetools?

also how do i move stuff that i bought from terminal to my ship

[candid bay]

use the cargo elevator in the hangar

drug search also works for me

[long pulsar]

idk it wasn't showing up for me

I'll try refresh tho

[sonic fiber]

Make sure it's on grid, store ship, pray

[crimson grotto]

is the reclaimer still bugged with the UI or should i buy it

[still nexus]

is ground mining worthwhile or nah

[raw elbow]

I basically just started and the game screwed me over, im trying to get into mining, how do i do that?

[real ingot]

you could rent a prospector. or rent a roc if you prefer ground mining.

[crimson grotto]

^^^

[raw elbow]

Roc? And where can i go for that?

[real ingot]

roc is a lil ground mining vehicle you drive around a mine gems

[real ingot]

i think you can rent that at the cargo ares of some space stations

[real ingot]

they are pretty cheap to rent for the day

[still nexus]

is a c2 + a roc as awesome as im thinking it is?

[rich python]

3.15.1 ROC Mining Tips Potentially outdated but still useful. Courtesy of @Xenos

• Appears on radar at < 1,000 m.
• fly LOW & SLOW; approx. 100-250 m/s speed. Keep pinging.
• Aberdeen or Daymar (Aberdeen requires a Pembroke suit or you will last only minutes).
• Maintain a fixed heading, stick to it.
• Do not stop for deposits containing less than 3 nodes.
• Only mine Hadanite: Purple in colour. Don't bother with Dolivine or Aphorite.
• If scan fails: only mine if the node has orange stains and purple gems.
• Max theoretical ROC capacity if 100% Hadanite is 220,000 aUEC (275 × 800)

3.15.1 Known ROC issues

• Gem stowage rate slowed down significantly; stows gems 1 at a time. (Workaround: only beam up a few at a time to avoid flinging them everywhere)
• ROC inventory fills up prematurely, requiring emptying
• Gems cannot stack, may be related to aforementioned issues
• You're no longer able to store all of the gems in a crate (workaround: A community-made solution using destroyed ship crates. I do not take credit for this idea or this

**YouTube upload. Please read the included disclaimer in the video if you intend on using this method. They do not offer a long-term storage solution. **
https://youtu.be/XDMMMIxaMmk

[rich python]

https://sc-trade.tools/

[rich python]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/19070-Alpha-318-Salvage-Repair

[rich python]

How to fit 25 + 13 SCU in a Vulture

With internal storage added in 3.22 it's possible to do this plus 13 SCU in storage for a total of 38 SCU.

Multi tool tractor beams work in hangars so you're able to sell the SCU in the ship and then eject, stack, and sell the stored SCU without leaving armistice. It does take two additional trips on the train to return to the ship and eject cargo then sell a second time.

Credit to @maiden steppe

[rich python]

Salvage Cheat Sheets by @tame forum

[maiden loom]

Could be an odd question, I know that you can fit both the vulture and prospector in the polaris but is it possible to fit both in then hanger at the same time?

[pallid talon]

I very much doubt it

[pure vigil]

is there anyway i could get a prospector for cheap or maybe even for free im new and im trying to mine

[pallid talon]

But if you wanna try go for it

[maiden loom]

Off to do some sketchy fitting then xD

[raw elbow]

Right, so i got the mining module for the pistol, where can i start mining?

[sly ravine]

PSA: DO NOT USE THE ARGO ATLS. IT WILL KILL YOU IF YOU GET INTO IT

[coarse cape]

Been working fine for me

[sly ravine]

It's working fine until it doesn't

[coarse cape]

Sounds like a skill issue?

[sly ravine]

I just spend over an hour trying to finish phase 4 and when i went to unload the atls killed me

[coarse cape]

[sly ravine]

10/10 cig

anyway, don't use it

[barren timber]

Whats the best ship for hauling missions? If hauling is even worth it

[sly ravine]

C2

Connie taurus is also good

[barren timber]

How far down the hauling missions can i do with the taurus?

[untold rapids]

you need to read the descriptions, hauling has variable SCU it's not static increases

[hollow sedge]

is the caterpiller practical? It seems like a pian in the ass to laod

load

oh its just 4x24scu boxes in each thing and 3x16scu at the front

but is it easy to load though? Or is iit pain in asshole

phyiscally

[mild grail]

How is the Hull C for hauling?

[knotty dove]

Great with hauling missions when it works

[pallid talon]

Ehhhh

[candid bay]

I skip the 5 slot, and when it spits out the second last 7, I lift it up and have a new one spawn under it.

It's 36 but easier for me xd

[spare cloud]

Not sure we needed a 3.15 guide on ROC mining. Also you may want to credit the original authors

[spare cloud]

5 is the hardest one to get to stay stable IME

[spare cloud]

I'll unpin and/or add notes for the outdated stuff when I got time for it, if you don't.
I hope I can get this done during the week end

[runic aurora]

when was the arrastra anounced?

like the initial concept brought out

tryna figure out if the orion would come out first or the arrastra

[spare cloud]

Orion needs a lot more new tech

Arrastra concept is more recent, from 2023 iirc. But it will likely make it in game before Orion

[runic aurora]

fair enough, thanks for that

[runic aurora]

yeah cause on the site where its specifically listed its listed as concepted in 2015

[spare cloud]

And announced for 4.0 2016

[runic aurora]

times changed apparently

and salvaging became king of cash making

also mildly unrelated, but with regards to pledge gear, any updates on the developments to get that stuff back in the works that might be out soon or?

[spare cloud]

[runic aurora]

LE BRUH X3

[spare cloud]

Likely won't stay that way.
Mining deserves the top place, with a lot more complex and complete game loop

[runic aurora]

i mean hell sicence and research announced as well? and the endeavour hasnt been touched in HOW LONG?

[runic aurora]

i agree

i mine cause its more fun than salvaging

[spare cloud]

Mining, refining, and hauling the refined materials, each using their own specialized ships
(Or "do it all"s like Arrastra and Odyssey).

[runic aurora]

hence im wondering when the arrastra will come out, even in just ptu so i can use the damn thing now its in my acc

[spare cloud]

The mining part itself is more complex than salvaging, without the refining and hauling parts

[runic aurora]

odyssey does mining refining and hauling?

[spare cloud]

Pretty much.
But it's not its whole purpose like the Arrastra

[runic aurora]

yeah

or orion

[runic aurora]

then again this thing is just designed to eat fuckin asteroid belts

[spare cloud]

The Odyssey can mine and refine its own fuel, and has cargo space.
So technically it can do it all.
But the purpose mostly is to refuel

[runic aurora]

its basically the jack of all trades, king of refueling

[spare cloud]

Yeah, Orion is meant to mine asteroids of a size much bigger than anything we have in game atm

[runic aurora]

yup

i went arrastra cause of its potential to be solo manned to low number crew

depending on how ship refining works it might be doable solo

limited as all hell sure but a lot better than solo crewing a mole

[spare cloud]

With all seats on the same bridge, Arrastra casts a large shadow over the MOLE

[runic aurora]

yeah

do we know if one of the turrets will be accessable in the piolot seat like the prospector or?

[spare cloud]

Can be soloed more efficiently, and duo with like one pilot/miner and one engineer/miner

[runic aurora]

yeah

[spare cloud]

Pretty sure Pilot seat will be pilot seat only

[runic aurora]

damn :<

cause by the looks of the bridge theres only 3 seats tho

[spare cloud]

There's 5 seats afaik

[runic aurora]

in the bridge?'

[sharp swift]

Both Arrastra and Orion aren't expected until after 1.0 though, based on that one chart/map from this year's citcon

[runic aurora]

yeah i was just reaching for that image

i was remembering the angle wrong, my b

[runic aurora]

fack ;-;

im just praying they come in one of the 4.x.x updates

even mid to late 4.x.x would make me happy

[spare cloud]

Pic / link ?

[sharp swift]

Yea one sec

[spare cloud]

I was never expecting Orion before 1.0, but Arrastra yeah

[sharp swift]

@blissful stratus can you post that pic of the chart w/ all the ships expected for 1.0?

;p

He posted it yesterday

I'll try and find it if he doesn't post

[runic aurora]

arrastra pre 1.0 would be a dream

[runic aurora]

did they put it in pins potentially?

[spare cloud]

This ?

[runic aurora]

if thats for 1.0 then thats massively fuckin wrong

[sharp swift]

yes, ty

[runic aurora]

unless im reading it like a pleb

(which is possible and likely)

[spare cloud]

The way I read this is everything on that pic is 1.0.
Green is just one example of careers you can choose that was shown at CitCon

[sharp swift]

It doesn't have variants listed, as they verbally mentioned

[runic aurora]

right

[sharp swift]

Arrastra and Orion were the first ones I was looking for

[runic aurora]

i read it as everything in the green was gonna be in 1.0 and the rest wasnt

yeah nah they aint there atm

fuckkkkkk

[spare cloud]

Lame

[sharp swift]

I want it out as much as you guys

hate to be the bearer of bad news

[spare cloud]

But there's the Expanse, so there's ship refining, so there's a chance for Arrastra

[runic aurora]

gonna be fuckin waiting a while eh?

[runic aurora]

yeah theyd just have to work the mechanic into the model

which shouldnt be overly hard once theyve got the system

i get working on the system is the hard bit, but once its done the rest should be smooth sailing

(in theory)

[spare cloud]

Looking forward to testing this theory with Server meshing

See how quick new systems are implemented once we got the tech

I placed my bet on Nyx 4.3 a while ago. Still holding onto it

[runic aurora]

also

how long before they ACTUALLY FIX the mole turret doors

instead of just deleting the fuckers X3

[spare cloud]

Long

[fluid sentinel]

Gib railen

[spare cloud]

Railen not even on 1.0 map

Hull B ftw TBH

[runic aurora]

also getting into the mole in space is a ballache cause gravity and lift dont play nice together

[spare cloud]

Fuck squares in hexagons in triangles

[sharp swift]

Use the open all doors button when pilot

[runic aurora]

no need now there gone

but yeah that was the main fix

[spare cloud]

The way is to get in by the side mining operation seats

Fuck this elevator

[runic aurora]

still think they should just PUT A FUCKIN BUTTON IN LIKE THE FIRST DOOR

[runic aurora]

yeah

[fluid sentinel]

That pic isn't the list of ships we are having by 1.0 I'm sure

[runic aurora]

did consider it but it dosent excuse WANK DESIGN

[spare cloud]

Agreed, there's BMM on it

[fluid sentinel]

Can already notice the intrepid is missing from it too lol

[sharp swift]

I expect mining to match step with base building. If the SL BLD is coming out, then the Mole can probably support that level of building. Arrastra pairs with Pioneer. Orion pairs with org space station.

[spare cloud]

Because the pic was showed before the Intrepid was officially announced

[fluid sentinel]

I must be one of the few people who would like more land vehicles xD

[runic aurora]

yeah, makes sense

[fluid sentinel]

Guardian is on that too tho

[runic aurora]

my m8 just upgraded his carrack to the orion, and i got the arrastra during IAE (with their help)

[sharp swift]

Guardian was already announced before that pic tho

[fluid sentinel]

When?

[runic aurora]

reckon the arrastra will go up in price at all on the pledge store before release?

[sharp swift]

Yes.

[runic aurora]

based

glad i got it when i did

[fluid sentinel]

wasn't the silhouette shown off for the intrepid last citcon too?

[sharp swift]

Ok, interesting point

[runic aurora]

atm im wondering when im gonna be able to use this stuff without having to shit bricks of perma losing it

[sharp swift]

So there's hope for that pic to not be the gospel, but I will blanket myself with doubt

[fluid sentinel]

we also got some ships they are working on that they didn't talk about so hoping to see a 600i rework before 1.0 lol

I hope

[sharp swift]

No point in getting hopes up. It'll come out when it needs to

[runic aurora]

yup

a statement true for a lot of ships

at least the polaris is ingame now tho

[sharp swift]

The longer ships aren't released, the cheaper they are to pick them up now

[runic aurora]

which opens a lot of opportunities

[sharp swift]

And now that SQ42 is in a 12-24 month stage of polish, I expect a lot of manpower to shift to SC

[runic aurora]

tis a point yeah

[fluid sentinel]

some of the ships during the 2023 trailer looked neat and I wonder if they will come over to SC

[runic aurora]

since it was the primary project it would theoretically take prio over the side project, that somehow outgrew it X3

[runic aurora]

they might do

[fluid sentinel]

one of them actually kinda looked like the ironclad

[runic aurora]

also arent they holding off releasing the jav in star cit till they release it in S42?

[sharp swift]

You say that like Fortnite isn't a glaring example

[runic aurora]

🤮

sorry you uttered a cursed name

[fluid sentinel]

what size do you need the ship to be to get a xl hanger?

[runic aurora]

xl or capital

[sharp swift]

The pve version which was the main point of the Kickstarter, later called 'save the world' mode and relegated to an obscure section of the menus

[runic aurora]

polaris size basically

polaris and up, please pipe up if there are smaller that can get you an xl hanger

[sharp swift]

Reclaimer, 890, Polaris

[runic aurora]

yeah i do remember

just even thinking about the bag of shit of a game makes me feel sick

side note aside

[runic aurora]

i forget the relcaimer is xl

me and my m8 were debating if the arrastra would get an xl or L hanger with the size of it on the fleet viewer site

cause on an L pad it looks tight af to get out

[spare cloud]

No. Idris. Jav will be even later

[runic aurora]

makes sense

[spare cloud]

Too bad Idris is a complete ship already

[runic aurora]

is the jav even needing work or they just holding it back for holding it back

[spare cloud]

Jav needs work

A lot of work

[runic aurora]

whats the difference between the idris p and m?

[spare cloud]

Ask in #ccu-and-fleet-advice 👍

[runic aurora]

just had a look and yeah the additional 500 quid cost only mildly makes more sense

(and fuck i forget this game is EXPENSIVE)

[sharp swift]

I think the Expanse will come out along the same time as the BLD to support refining for crafting

[runic aurora]

yeah

[fluid sentinel]

origin doesn't have a cargo hauler yet huh

[runic aurora]

origin as a company to me seems kinda shit

[sharp swift]

Luxury cargo hauling

[runic aurora]

cause its just the equivilant of a bunch of space yatchs

[runic aurora]

plus so many companies have stranglehold of cargo running

drake, cursader, RSI

even in real world business sesne the market is too over crowded to go into

[sharp swift]

So long as Drake doesn't self immolate by only flying, I think some brands are safe. Looking forward to the IC/A

[small galleon]

4.0 is in EPTU already right?

[sharp swift]

Yeah

[runic aurora]

yup

[runic aurora]

IC/A?

[small galleon]

I've been hearing and reading about the economy changes and apparently it's just inflation lol

[sharp swift]

Ironclad /Assault

[runic aurora]

yeah

the ironclad seems such good value for money

[small galleon]

Ironclad seems to be THE hauler from Stanton to Pyro

[runic aurora]

yeah

[sharp swift]

They haven't given any details tho

Economy reset makes sense. Especially with how fuel tanks are changing

[runic aurora]

im gonna take a wild WILD guess and say they might have nerfed salvaging again in the EPTU for pyro

[runic aurora]

agreed, and what? fuel tanks are changing?

[small galleon]

I've been holding off pledging work ships for the reason. I dont' know which jobs are worked on if any

[runic aurora]

i gunned the arrastra cause even if mining hits the shitter

[sharp swift]

Yeah tank sizes are going down. But the way things were, it wasn't making sense with how mining was lucrative for quant

[wintry pine]

Where does one sell Dolivine? I tried TDD on NB and it wasn't buying. (not "No Demand" or whatever, but it was unsellable) I just wanna get the dagum IAE Academy stuff done.

[runic aurora]

its still what i enjoy and its a self contained cash engine