industrial-professions

[slate spruce]

You could've abandoned some hauling mission before, which dumps your reputation to dust. The reevaluation mission is (as far as I've seen) only possible around Crusader, doesn't pop up elsewhere.

[pearl juniper]

I like the Hurston local (distribution center to outpost and back) missions

Can usual stack 3-4 outgoing and at least one on the return

[lyric tusk]

No I don't think that's the issue I had tons of rep from doing cargo contracts last patch and then when 3.24.2 hit I lost all of my Covalex rep and have not one time had a hauling contract show up. But I will give Crusader a try

[slate spruce]

Hurston or microTech for the DCs. Depending on mission level, you can for example stack 6 Member missions going from Tressler to the same 3 destinations (NB and two DCs). Requires a pen&paper on the side for notes, but pays ~220k total.

[south linden]

how can I get rid of this....

[pearl juniper]

Wait for them to fix that bug

[sharp swift]

It may go away with a new patch

[south linden]

lol

[thorny lodge]

is storage with scu boxes still broken?

[pallid talon]

Jeez how long does it take for that rep to member? I think im 1 below it

[tall karma]

This is what happens when you have cargo not on grid in the elevator area. Use the right click / traversal beam to find the box that isn't locked to the grid

[delicate girder]

So I haven't tried cargo hauling since these physicalized cargo changes. Is it that you no longer can go and get the cargo loaded for you automatically at a planetary settlement? Is there a good link which explains all the changes?

[still ridge]

does hull c hauling work yet

[golden fern]

Sometimes. Depends on how healthy the server is

[still ridge]

fair enough ill chech again in a few patches lol

[sly lynx]

I’ve not traded since the cargo elevators came in. Is cargo stuff still as profitable? Did they balance the payouts to take into account the extra loading / unloading time?

[slate spruce]

It's actually quite easy when you have a sufficient cargo hold (100+ SCU), and you stack the missions around DCs. I did it on mT with Taurus, and it was like one stacked trip to get Rookie - Junior. Then there are 3x from one DC to one Rayari outpost. Starting with Member, there are either 6x (1 origin + 3 destinations), or 3x (1 origin + 4 destinations). So in theory 4 such trips (1-3 stack, each mission gives 5% rep) to get to Experienced. The Contracts tab is a pain, just scroll through and check only the <rank> + Planetary or Local contracts, don't even bother clicking on lower ranks or Solar/Interstellar ones. And ignore the large volume ones, it's not worth the time to fill the entire cargo bay for one contract.

[slate spruce]

As for the box management with such stack, I prefer to write down all missions from mobi to paper (the cargo types for same mission paths luckily don't overlap), and then sort them into piles for each destination as I'm pulling them from freight elevator. Then load them into cargo bay so that there's at least 1 SCU space between each pile. Then at each destination simply start unloading until I hit the space.

[void scarab]

No it's bugged. There was no cargo to begin with. I server hopped 8 times and that error appeared every single time

Cargo at outposts is straight up broken

[pallid talon]

Ah ive only got my cutty black atm 46 scu 😭

[slate spruce]

Yeah, Cutty's ok for the Rookie or Junior missions, from Member on you'll have to be picky and check the cargo volume more. ~3 simultaneous small contracts should still be viable (each netting 34-38k)

[pallid talon]

I can fit 5 atm

Get about 77k

Rep i dont think moves much

[slate spruce]

You only gain meaningful rep for doing missions for your rank, no point in doing the lower ones.

[craggy tapir]

We can run some contracts together later

What do you prefer

Raft or cat?

Or Taurus

[pallid talon]

I dont even know what they are 😭

[craggy tapir]

Damn

[pallid talon]

Ive had the game 3 days

But I learn

[craggy tapir]

I can show you some stuff

This is the raft btw

[pallid talon]

Atm im just trying to make money and get rep for certain things so I can start doing things myself and help others eventually

[pallid talon]

That looks rather large lol

[mild pumice]

Snap

[craggy tapir]

It is a medium freight and has 96scu space

[pallid talon]

Oh

[craggy tapir]

If you wanna do large hauling

[pallid talon]

What about the caterpillar

[craggy tapir]

Big boi

[pallid talon]

Bruh

How many scu

[craggy tapir]

Uhh

576scu

[pallid talon]

WHAT

[craggy tapir]

Thats one of the lowest

Hull series is biggest

[pallid talon]

jesus

[craggy tapir]

Luckily only hull c is flyable

[pallid talon]

Is the c bigger than cat? Storage wise

[craggy tapir]

The hull c has 4.608scu

We don't talk about the e tho

[pallid talon]

Does that even exist

I heard the hull d is coming out

[craggy tapir]

We have hull a too e

[pallid talon]

Isnt the c2 or a2 bigger than them cargo wise?

[craggy tapir]

C2

Has around 650scu

Hull e was more

[pallid talon]

jeez

[craggy tapir]

98.304scu

[pallid talon]

Is the large hauling even worth it

[craggy tapir]

Not now

[pallid talon]

I just do 5 small ones for 77k lol

[craggy tapir]

Its utterly useless

[pallid talon]

I see

Is hauling better than like cargo buying and selling eg gold?

[craggy tapir]

Hm

[pallid talon]

I heard golds decent if the need is high

[craggy tapir]

You can buy for 5.7k and sell for 7.5k

Per scu

[pallid talon]

Oh

Is that worth or na

Seems about 1mil profit in a cat

[craggy tapir]

but you need to completely load it

and hope you dont get pirated or 30k'd

since the cargo grid is bad

c2 is better for that

[pallid talon]

yikes

What other money makers would you say then

[craggy tapir]

bunker runs

quite easy

[pallid talon]

Drug bunkers or just normal

[craggy tapir]

both

but mostly drug

we can also do DC bounties and clears

[devout shell]

can the argo Mole carrier normal stuff like items in his Cargo Pods? will ther be swapable cargo pods?

can the starfarer only rfeul normal Feul H2 or can it aswell Refeul Qantum Feul?

[brittle badge]

The Mole can only carry ores by extracting them with the mining laser. There is no way to carry other items with it.
The Starfarer can fill its tanks with either H2 or QT fuel. Since you have more than 1 tank you could also do both.

[pallid talon]

Im down for whatever just lemme know when ur on if u wanna do stuff and ty for explaining things

[craggy tapir]

im on rn

[pallid talon]

just doing some hauls with some others in c2 do you want to join and bring something else?

[sullen junco]

Thinking ab doing some cargo missions later, how are the 30ks now I’ve been on vacation until yesterday lol

[slender raft]

Is it better to just do hauling contracts or is buying commodities and then selling them better?

[slender raft]

I’ve haven’t 30k in a awhile

[feral steeple]

Freight elevators starting to break again

At outposts

[tall vigil]

Depends, buying commodities can net you a greater profit for less work. But there is more risk involved. Hephestinite is probably the best commodity to trade it right now

[sly robin]

If i put commodities in 8scu containers, I have to unload them manually or I can auto unload and keep the containers ?

[vocal cradle]

How much can I make in my hull c

Or c2

[deep bison]

How much can you afford to spend?

Titanium is a pretty low level profit line, you will make about 25% of a profit for whatever ship you can afford to fill, buy at one of the Cursader Moon stations, and Sell at the Orison Trade District.

a c2 with like 600SCU would cost something like 60k to fill and you'd end up making 20kish, So really it's just up to you if that low risk solid profit is worth your time.

That's a good value if you don't want to risk much.

[slate spruce]

Hull C is haunted with bugs, so the actual profit is hard to estimate. With C2 and its ~700 SCU you can buy beryl for 1.55M at mT and sell it for 1.97M at Orison. The profit per hour depends strongly on how good you are in box stacking.

[real yew]

Just abandoned a Hull C Experienced rank mission because of bugs and also abandoned to return the cargo, now my Covalex rep seems completely reset to 0

Ok fuck cargo hauling CiG! This ruins it for me!

[slate spruce]

Never abandon, just quit the game. It abandons the mission for 0 reputation hit. If you want to restart the cargo career, the reevaluation mission pops up around Crusader (possibly takes a day or two, unconfirmed)

[real yew]

No thanks. Wasted one week of time on this

Resetting to 0 for one abadoned mission? Are they kidding me?

[slate spruce]

Absolutely, completely, crystal clear understandable 🙂

It was an overshot because CIG were afraid ppl will abuse it to steal precious mission cargo. Then the mission designers changed the cargo to contain mostly useless sh*t, but the penalty stayed. At least they removed it for the situation when you quit the game, bcs of all the bugs and crashes.

[fallen night]

Is there a way to do automatic unloading on planet/ground stations?

[cloud robin]

Your ship had to be stored if you want to auto (un)load

So only cities and stations fron TDD/Admin

[fallen night]

Ohhh

Same for loading I guess

[cloud robin]

Yes

Outposts and similar you'll have to load manually

[limpid sluice]

You could hire some workers to do it for you

[feral steeple]

Haven't gotten auto unload to work in 3.24.3 in New Babbage, just given up on it

[cloud robin]

Alpha™️

[ebon cedar]

You can't grid (then store) 24 and 32 SCU boxes on salvage sites right ? 3.24.2. I can't with 24 despite enough space but I'm not sure if it's a bug (for me) or something intended.

[blissful flume]

can u buy the atlas mech in game and so where?

[pallid talon]

orison I know you can the crusader showroom for 75k

[coarse ember]

astro armada at a18 retail for 75k

[blissful flume]

thx love you

[dim oak]

Anybody know a way to fix the docking collar ui being off?

[wooden seal]

boys is there any way you can put drug boxes like maze into an scu container from bunker missions ?

[iron fulcrum]

Its completely broken

[late plume]

Is there a hauling app that helps with routing according to contracts?

[quartz forge]

If you can get them down a cargo elevator probably but that kinda defeats the point since you’d probably just do that where you’re selling anyway

[craggy tapir]

you can take the little drug packages to your hangar (if you dont get scanned) and put them into the stor*all boxes

imagine you want to put 20 packages 1 by 1

at a scrapyard at that

[little linden]

Man, the Zeus CL cargo area is hot garbage. What a disappointment.

[pastel flame]

It's got some issues.

Every medium cargo ship gets shit on by Taurus perfection is the issue.

[real yew]

And the ladder entry doesn't work most of the time

[spare cloud]

They pushed the C1 grids further on the sides in PTU so you can sneak out of the ship while having a third 32 SCU container in the middle

[real yew]

Taurus is outdated though, not even storage compartments. I think it's time to scrap it and make place for a new replacement ship, in standard CiG fashion

Same as with Corsair, which is now old so it must be nerfed and a new replacement must come

[tall karma]

Constellation MK5 Series will probably happen since its the RSI brand and they'd rather sunset old models to sell new ones.

[honest grove]

I need someone to update this for the Zeus. 🙂

[honest grove]

Nevermind. Found it.

[tawdry light]

Can the Corsair hold 32SCU boxes?

[limpid sluice]

Not on grid, but yes

[pastel flame]

Outdated maybe, but the most seamless and convenient cargo experience in current patch 🙂

[pure vapor]

all things are possible with enough effort and glitches!

[pastel flame]

Maybe they'll unbork the c2 soon

[pure vapor]

But loading it while it trys to buck you off is half the fun

[pastel flame]

Optimal parking XD

[leaden monolith]

As a cargo ship the Zeus CL is a failure. If you have the fine motor skills of a neuro surgeon you might manage to fully load it but I have my doubts. However fully loading is only half the problem. Getting boxes out once fully loaded width ways is a marathon of patience. With the auto load/unload problems and problems selling from your ship my Zeus is in the melting pot for something else.

Personally the Raft and Taurus are my faves in this size bracket and in this patch. With the new detach mode (un)loading the Raft is a breeze and I never bother with the top row of containers on the Taurus. Quick and easy for me.

[pure vapor]

I enjoy the zues, but yea getting anything on top of the first 4x4 crates is hit and miss...mostly miss.

its a holdover for me, have the starlancer max ordered so that will likely take the zues places and I'll melt the zues down.

[limpid sluice]

Irks me that they design some cargo spaces with millimeter precision for getting the last few boxes in. Also wish you could toggle the cargo grid on and off. When you're trying to pull a box out and it gets stuck and then snaps back to the grid

[leaden monolith]

I have a Starlancer Max on order as well as a Railen. Pretty sure Railen is not happening this decade and even if it does those triangular cargo boxes I know in my gut will be a huge issue. Railen is already assigned to go into the melting pot and probably will end up a Hull B which is roughly the same size.

[pure vapor]

woule be a different story if we could get something on the grid then maybe use the arrow keys to move it from point to point

[leaden monolith]

CIG have a habit of designing cargo ships with small issues that make loading cargo more difficult than it needs to be. If any of you have a Fee Max pray to whoever that they never do a gold pass on it. If they do I would expect it to lose that wonderful ramp and cargo entrance.

[quaint vale]

so where to start trading (taurus)

[dull tusk]

Any HUll C traders on? before you'd buy cargo at the admin office, and select the hull C as your target, and then undock the ship and go get loaded... it doesnt let me select ships anymore?

[pure vapor]

I have one temporarily, there's something on the left side when looking into the cargo. It's invisible but blocks movement or containers lol

[cloud robin]

Did someone say optimal parking?

[pastel flame]

[radiant spoke]

Yo! I bought "very legal" 😉 drugs in Jumptown. Exactly 1 SCU of it and now I don't know how to "translate it" from the terminal (which it is showing that it is stored in Jumptown storage) to physical boxes that I can put on my ship. Any help is appreciated

Tried #helpdesk and checking if maybe it can be answered here

[ocean compass]

Any freight elevator there? If there isnt, then it cannot be brought up

Also i found that auto loading / unloading isnt broken, the selection is.

Just tested ytd, you have to select all the options in the dropdown bar until 1 is your ship. It will not be named correctly, but you know you got the right one when the cargo SCU count appears for the ship.

E.g i saw myname/myname/300i/taurus/local station. Select taurus will be invalid location. I go through the drop down bar, 2nd myname is the taurus because it shows the 174 scu cargo. I buy n load successful, call in ship and checked, its inside.

Same thing when i go to the selling place. Select through the list till it has the right location and sell, auto unload / load is still working

[soft mantle]

But then they also make some cargo grids have multiple cubic meters of space thst arent apart of the grid

[ocean compass]

Rsi has such a tool? Goddamn it i was manually mapping the sizes using various sizes of scrap

Like the other day i was testing how efficiently can i fit my taurus stacking. Grr

[barren ivy]

no bro! This is work I'm doing for all ships. Based on a diagram in the Erec player hub. I'm doing several tests with the containers and defining what is easiest and most agile. In the case of Zeus, the biggest problem is the entrance door. Very narrow and makes movement with the tractor beam difficult

i'm make the Taurus guide

[ocean compass]

ah thanks for your hard work man

this was something i was looking for, didnt see. theres the diagram in pinned, but for autoloading purpose its not efficient. manual loading wise we want to take as big an SCU as possible, then fill up spaces as efficiently / quickly before mischevious players appear (especially during gold trading).
a suggestion is to aim for 24SCU boxes (outposts).

taurus is a weirdo because its difficult to stack on top of the 24 SCU boxes once you loaded haha.

just dont have the view

[barren ivy]

yes, that's right. But the big problem is that on some ships it is difficult to work with 24 or 32 containers because they don't work as we would like. Therefore, in some cases having smaller containers works better. Example: Zeus, it is possible to use two 32-inch containers, but to continue filling them up is very time-consuming and difficult to create the grid. In this case, it makes much more sense to use smaller containers.

test register 😄

[ocean compass]

yeah i pretty much did the same thing for my taurus lol

trying to figure out whats the best way to load on it as fast as possible

i figured out that i dont want to mess ard with the 4x 24scu stacking on top of it, i rather just do 4x 24SCU + 2x 8SCU on the remainder spaces along the length of the cargo hold. so im only making use of 96 + 16 SCU of 174SCU, but this is the fastest / most efficient. i mean i can do things like the flat 4SCU boxes on top of the 24s but line of sight is a problem.

of course this is personal preference. but yeah

autoloading wise i just buy 87x 2SCU and load it all 1 time. rather than follow diagram of 2x 32 + 2x 24 + 30x 2, mainly i realised each purchase is loaded separately, its way faster to just do 87x 2scu.(10mins). i tested 174x 1SCU loading time was 12mins.

[visual matrix]

anyone know if planet side elevators are fixed?

[ocean compass]

a lot are, but also pretty dependent on luck. i suspect there are people purposely breaking elevators

if your asking planet side elevators as in the main cities, my suggestion is do not enter the main cities, multiple reports everyday of people stuck are orison / lorville / area18. new babbage is the only one able to rescue people out because of ice lake

[visual matrix]

id ask how you do that purposly but i dont think i want that said in a public forum lol

and i meant outposts mainly lol

[ocean compass]

if you do not have a regen point imprint on a space stations, you will most likely be screwed

heh i can tell you just 1 thing. just go to any of the non-working elevator you can see inside the windows of the elevator

you will know what i mean

[visual matrix]

appreciate the info boss man

[late plume]

Hey guys, just getting started with the game and got a prospector. Got a few refinery orders for tomorrow and was wondering what was the best way to ship it to be sold. Should I buy a Hull A or rent a freelancer?

[signal night]

what size cargo can zuse CL carry?

[cloud robin]

#industrial-professions message

[signal night]

ty

[rustic reef]

when doing courier missions, will partial delivered packages (ie 2/3) give me some money or not? one fo the cargo terminals was bugged

[thick portal]

It'll base the pay off of how many items are recieved

[rustic reef]

so a 6k contract with 3 packages will just be 4k with 2 deliverd

[thick portal]

Probably. I don't know exacts, but that sounds about right

[rustic reef]

welp droppd the 2 packages out the door when teh first was bugged. lol

[thick portal]

Just go to the contract and submit it that way if it bugs. Happens to me all the time in hauling contracts.

[sonic fiber]

Whats a good low in hauler for extra small cargo? Like under 15

ideally cheap

i was thinking nomad

[lime vessel]

Nomad is great with 24 Scu, the Avenger is ok aswell.. i succeed to get 12 Scu inside. 😃

[coarse ember]

Pretty much any rentable ship will do, 3 full prospector bag runs only ever give me 12 SCU

[sonic fiber]

On grid?

[lime vessel]

No off grid😃

[sonic fiber]

Ah

[vernal hornet]

is cargo hauling one of the best ways to make money?

[crimson mantle]

In general it's pretty good, but it's been very buggy this patch.

It also requires a lot of upfront money.

The missions are nice though, less reward, but 0 risk.

Again, kind of buggy this patch 😢

[frank juniper]

is this a website?

[barren ivy]

no

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/community-hub/post/cargogrid-3-24-constant-update-TfV0wVEfhJuBL

i'm made infographics

this post are constant updates

[limpid sluice]

They look really good, awesome job!

[frank juniper]

yeah, nice one

[sonic fiber]

But I'd really like to see is price per SCU

[frank juniper]

thats quite easy to figure out by yourself no? although it would be nice to see quickly

[feral steeple]

@sonic fiber C1

[sonic fiber]

I tried but too much out of date info

[sonic fiber]

Not a bad idea but I have a corsair already which is close. Looking for a small or medium haluer

[feral steeple]

My small ship is a drake cutless black and it's great for that stuff as well

Cheap upgrades, you must upgraded the guns min

[sonic fiber]

Yeah that's a good option

About 40k per scu

[valid kraken]

Lol why would I ever use 6x 16scu when I can just put 4x 24scu?

[ocean compass]

this actually not gonna happen. shops/outpost sells 24 SCU

you need to make the boxes 4x 24scu + 2x 8SCU

then the 4SCUs stack on top

[pearl juniper]

You can buy 32s, just not everywhere

[valid kraken]

32's are fine. preferable even, if they fit.

but!

1. they are currently nearly impossible to sell

[ocean compass]

32s are not fine. only certain places accept size 32

better doing 24s

[valid kraken]

agreed

[pearl juniper]

Anything you can BUY in 32s, you can sell in 32's

Since trade is almost always ending at a planet / TDD

[barren ivy]

because the 24scu containers were having a grid problem at Caterpillar

we tried on several servers and outpost

[mild pumice]

Caterpillar can take 24s on the bottom row snapped but the top row do not snap due to the walk way, it seems to be a bug as they're supposed to fit! I used 16s for the top row was well as 3x 16 in the front. So my compartments were actually 2x 24 and 2x 16 but still a good load overall. Just a shame the lot was destroyed when I landed at NB and stored the ship

[ocean compass]

^ standard Welcome to Star Citizen moment

[hoary hinge]

been a while since I've played, doing a simple box delivery to get started

...how do I tell the ID of the box? I'm here to pick up one on Yela, but there's three here and I don't know which is the correct one.

[hollow sedge]

do you know how to gridlock a 24scu box on a junkyard?

[ocean compass]

just put it on? i have no issues locking a 24

[hollow sedge]

yeah except it wont show, all other sizes were fine though

[ocean compass]

there may be an invisible cargo blocking

change another place

i have situation middle dont detect

[hollow sedge]

yeah no ive tried 2 junkyards already, but i know ive seen it once a few days ago but suddenly i dont

[leaden saddle]

do we like the hull c for vaughn missions

[ocean compass]

no.

[leaden saddle]

so whats it for

[ocean compass]

its a massive freight ship with no guns & super ass slowness its not meant for vaughn looting

its meant for doing pure commodity trading

i wouldnt go bigger than a C2 for vaughn missions.

[leaden saddle]

so like ferrying a ton of stuff etc

we did a few vaughn with the hull c a few days ago

[hollow sedge]

i just needed to switch servers entirely lol

[spare cloud]

Ship prices are very much up to date if that's what you mean. Do the maths yourself, aUEC/SCU capacity ain't hard

It's not a relevant metric anyway

[sonic fiber]

It is when looking for value. But yes they're up to date some places and not in some places. It was just a suggestion for convenience

If you know some place I can find a list of ships with price and cargo size in one table please do let me know. I've not been able to find one

[spare cloud]

Ship prices are very much up to date on most used sites like erkul and itemfinder.

See pinned messages for cargo sizes

I'll replace it with up to date version with newest ships soon

[robust pulsar]

Does a Aurora have a invetory ??

[mild pumice]

Probably not since 3.24, you'll have to take an SCU box

[spare cloud]

Nope

[mild pumice]

Yeah it's a regular snap grid so any combination of boxes

[small galleon]

Super new. Can you change which boxes are used for cargo hauling contracts or are you stuck with what they give you?

[spark crest]

did they make rmc trading non profit in 3.24??

[ocean compass]

you are stuck. also if you read the contract they normally state what sizes boxes they will be giving you

verify that before taking contracts you cant deliver 🙂

[mild pumice]

In addition they will be as divided up as maximum amount of the largest quoted possible then smaller boxes to complete, I.e 100scu (max 8scu) would be 12x 8scu + 1x 4scu

[coarse ember]

pretty much, costs more than it sells for but does solve the issue of always low/no demand in cities

[still ridge]

anyone done any major hauling with hull c lately?

[inner summit]

How has commodity trading been holding up since hauling missions were added? Started doing it in 3.18 when servers were shot - considering returning after having mixed success getting a working mission in 3.24.2. Is it more or less profitable than the missions?

[proud jasper]

What's a good site for finding the buying and selling prices of each item?

[inner summit]

https://sc-trade.tools

[proud jasper]

that site is pretty obtuse

[crimson mantle]

I'm happy to hear feedback! We always want to improve 😄

[inner summit]

-0-0

THE SC Trade tools mentioned :O

[proud jasper]

the X to Y route manager could be a little better. it took me like half an hour to realize the en route was what I was looking for.

[proud jasper]

a "full cargo load" option to tick would be cool too.

[crimson mantle]

1. That's fair, the tools don't flow very well into to each other and the front page could use a rework.
2. Not sure I quite understand that second pont

[proud jasper]

just ignore it

@crimson mantle IDK how hard it would be to impliment but maybe a system that can filter out routs that don't have a circular path. so a cargo hauler could try to keep the ships full all the time

better yet maybe route comparison. where you can see the differences between doing one recourse to one place vs another one to a different place

[toxic lichen]

oes hauling pay well? as in the "hauling contracts" at high rep?

[glossy axle]

delivery to outposts is iffy right now if your contract takes you to one as a decent number of cargo elevators are broken. You end up having to abandoning some contracts so its a bit of a slog, just dont accept any delivering to outposts

[crimson mantle]

Oh you mean avoid empty trip legs on the en-route tool.
That itinerary always present the most optimal route, so if there's an empty bit it's because there was nothing better 😢
The way the outposts, stations and cities are setup now is not very conductive to circular routes unfortunately: we could have expected to haul mineral from outposts to stations, refined ores from stations to cities and manufactured goods/water and air from cities to outposts, but alas not quite.
Maybe the next economy refactor!

[sonic fiber]

That would be great. I've told them to do exactly that

Pick up ore at mining site, deliver to refinery. Pickup refined move to factory, pick up waste, move to moon for recycling, and start over

Create haul missions for places that have surplus or shortages

[limpid star]

can the hornet do hauling?

[cloud robin]

Technically yes, realistically no

It has space for 2 SCU but you're not making any money at all with that space

[spark crest]

is there a problem with gold at smo18?

i can;t acces the freight elevator

[wheat moss]

Change server until you find one where elevator work

[small galleon]

Anyone know if you can do medium cargo hauling missions with the Zeus?

[inner girder]

Technically yes, but the cargo hold is only good if it is below 8 SCU boxes. 8 SCU boxes you can only fit a few in the Zeus, and then you can barely stack anything else in it\

[thorny lodge]

Do boxes still turn invisible when stored with the ship?

[pearl juniper]

sometimes. I had that happen a couple of days ago. Couldn't stack anything on certain parts of the grid, then realized it was where I had previously put boxes and that I could stack on top of the invisible boxes.

pretty weird, I could move a box right through the invisible one, and then snap it to the top of the invisible box

[thorny lodge]

Damn annoying. Thanks, I'll keep unsnapping boxes before storage

[pearl juniper]

they did reappear after quantum travel though. When I got to my destination and started unloading everything was there.

[willow abyss]

any good cargo routes for 66scu freelancer?

or drug runs/trade routes

[spare cloud]

Can't buy drugs anymore, only loot

I would try the gold route.
But it won't be 66 SCU, it'll be 54 SCU since you can't fit boxes in the middle part. Door is too small

[willow abyss]

where can i buy gold, or do i have to mine it?

[wheat moss]

either buy or mine

[ocean compass]

i do not agree with new players doing commodity trading. you must be prepared to lose it all

<--lost 1.9m worth of heph, full load C2 10km away from lorville, error 6k. so much pain

[mild pumice]

Trading is pain

Twice my fully loaded Cat was destroyed when storing at New Babbage lol.

Only manually unload now...

For beginners better to do hauling missions at least you have no investment to lose

[half badger]

whats the best cargo to trade in a c2 other than heph

sc trade tools only gives me heph no matter how much money i add to investment

[ocean compass]

heph is what i prefer because 1) sufficient quantity 2) autoloading.

[half badger]

autoloading?

[ocean compass]

you can check for other things that has a large quantity, a lot of people do beryl runs.

autoloading from hangar. select ship in the commodity screen, buy and auto loads into ship

[half badger]

ive tried that and it doesnt work

[ocean compass]

you pay 6.9k + wait for it to be auto loaded / unloaed

you did it wrong

the bug is the selection screen

try going through the list, one of them will be the ship

you know its the ship when you see the cargo grid pop up

autoloading / unloading is working. its the selection screen thats bugged

[half badger]

ive been loading and unloading heph manually

[ocean compass]

then you save 6.9k unload fee, grats.

[half badger]

well thats good to know

[ocean compass]

heph is what i do for relaxed commodity trading. autoload auto unload

if im doing manual, i would do beryl runs for those. per trip of full c2 around 500k profit

#1 concern is quantity.

[muted briar]

yo is it possible to sell 32scu of weevil eggs at brios? feels like the container is too big for the storage platform

[ocean compass]

ignore and dump any 32scu of drugs

not working

[muted briar]

ight cheers

[modern agate]

it's been a while, hull c load procedure is:

1. buy cargo into station
2. call to load from space
3. ???
4. profit

am I missing something

[valid kraken]

How often do the mines restock inventories?

[proud jasper]

Okay new simple i hope request.

Just a simple manual route maker. That you can chain things with.

Like seraphim to magnus, magnus to bajini, bajini to pyro, pyro to seraphim

It could show the things the station sells that the other one in line will buy.

[pallid talon]

Is commodity trading worth it

Tried looking on sc trade tools and some look abit meh profit wise

[proud jasper]

Comodity trading sounds like hell

Just sell helium to magnus station

Quick profit

[pallid talon]

Sounds mid

I want that big profit

[proud jasper]

30k for 20k input. It is big profit

They buy helium for like 1.5 what you buy it for so it's easily the most worthwhile low risk trade route.

[proud jasper]

This is using a freelancer max btw. Helium is so shitty for cost density

[pallid talon]

Meh

10k profit is meh

[proud jasper]

10k profit os indeed meh. But it's so low risk and braindead with a Hull-C that i think it could legit be meta when ever magnus hasn't been over stocked

Okay so i may have dismissed large scale helium hauling.

[ocean compass]

i count profit per scu as the matrix

highest profit per scu is of course gold, 2k per scu

but limited stock. based on that logic, i find that beryl / laranite has the next highest profit per scu, but requires manual loading

which then brings me to heph.

[proud jasper]

True but gold you gotta get from the mining platforms (which pirates camp)

[ocean compass]

which is why i do heph trading over the rest

[proud jasper]

There's heph over in magnus station :)

O wait

[ocean compass]

there's heph everywhere. pyro / bajini etc

[proud jasper]

~800000 to fill a hull C with helium and then a ~1200000 profit. I gues scale really does matter with everything

[valid kraken]

does the auto load/unload work okay?

and isnt docking super sketchy rn??

[modern compass]

does auto loading only work with the hull c?

[ocean compass]

it works with all ships. the bug is with the selection drop down bar. just go through the options, the ship will be shown with the right cargo amount

im not sure how it works for Hull C, heard is need to call cargo ATC outside the hangar, no idea never done before

[craggy tapir]

So you buy for 800k and sell for 1.2 mil or what

If yes
That's a 400k profit

[river island]

https://medal.tv/games/star-citizen/clips/j14YzNwKnE0Vh4QOb?invite=cr-MSw1NEEsMjIxMDAzNTAzLA

Are the freight elavators this bugged for everyone, trying to sell my bounties and its not working

[elfin rune]

anyone know if the ATLS can fit in SCU containers?

so i could carry in a ship grid?

[ocean compass]

i hate this game. 640 SCU in my c2, unable to sell, out of stock on station

why cant i sell ffs

tried loading 1x 32scu to sell from local inventory, doesnt work

guess im trying to sell this on area 18 instead.

and i clipped through the planet

[pallid talon]

Is heph even worth? I did beryl once and made 400k profit

[deep bison]

Try Seraphim, it should have enough for you to sell all of that.

or at least 500 of it. Where did you even get that much Med supplies? somewhere on microtech?

[modern agate]

is there any way to move cargo from station inventory to cargo deck for hull c loading

[deep bison]

Unfortunately No, It's basicially Ship to Shop loading and skips your station inventory.

[ocean compass]

terra gateway

[ocean compass]

heph has autoloading

[ocean compass]

i would. if i still have my ship. i clipped through the planet and lost the c2

[pallid talon]

oh

whats the buy in and sell

is it with in my tauras

[spare cloud]

Check !tradetools ⬇️

[jolly dagger]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[coarse ember]

sctrade tools and uexcorp are usually your friends for deciding cargo runs

[lyric tusk]

what kind of bullshit is this...not being able to use the big boy to pick up and damn big box wtf

well I love the way she looks but now I see why people dont like the Zeus CL for cargo...cause she cant do 100 SCU of big boxes cause they dont fit

[sick junco]

i thought it was kinda a dumb change tbh as well

basically requires an atlas

[lyric tusk]

An ATLS or the tractor beam on the ship

definitely going to be upgrading the Zeus CL to the Starlancer MAX

its crazy how they back tracked on the tractor beam when they showed off the bigger hand held being able to hold on to a ship in mid flight lol

which I was thought was bullshit anyhow

[sick junco]

well like that one makes sense cause your tractor beam is pulling you

like the physics of it makes sense i just think it's a dumb change

[deep bison]

wait. like the two handed tractor gun can't lift and move 32scu boxed now?

[pearl juniper]

is this in PTU? I was moving 32's with the maxlift last week in live.

oh, never mind, I see the PTU notice at the bottom

[modern compass]

can I use the cargo ATC to auto load a commodity like helium onto my hull c?

[lyric tusk]

Nope not anymore

[valid kraken]

yeah, i can do way better with the cat

or C2

[valid kraken]

it can

[lyric tusk]

Well it wasnt doing it in PTU just now

[valid kraken]

i loaded some this weekend with the max.

[lyric tusk]

maybe it was just bugged earlier

I will try it again

yeah still cant pick up any of them...maybe my shit is just bugged...doesnt matter what size I try both the same with both hand held type tractor beams

[wheat moss]

Broken, if I'm not wrong it should at least "lock" on the crate even if it's too heavy

[valid kraken]

id judt relog at this point

[wheat moss]

But yeah max lift can lift 32 scu when the game is in a rare state where it's working

[valid kraken]

could be the server or you may need to verify files as well

[pearl juniper]

maybe a dumb question, but left clicking or right clicking? They changed how that works recently.

[modern compass]

How do you get the cargo atc to auto load commodities? I tried sending them to the ship in the terminal and went int he box but nothing happened, unlike cargo missions where I'd go intot he box just fine and get loaded up

[leaden monolith]

Taking 32scu crates from the max lift would be just straight up dumb but typical CIG. Ship tractor beams for the most part are just crap and a lot of ships don't have them. Cargo Empires is slowly but surely killing the cargo game loop.

[still ridge]

hows the hull c working rn

[modern agate]

how many missions before large cargo hauls show up?

[small galleon]

I just got to junior rep. Will there be less stackable contracts and more multiple drop off points?

[hardy root]

101 SCU of Maze on a Reclaimer ( Vaughn missions)

[small galleon]

I cant seem to get Trade Tools to work

[ocean compass]

22m? sick

[hardy root]

YUP

[ocean compass]

try going in incognito mode. it doesnt work for me either until i do that

[zealous kindle]

How to autoload cargo?

[ocean compass]

the drop down bar selection for destination is bugged. go through the list until your ship appears (with the correct cargo count)

[zealous kindle]

where do i do this? freight manager?

[ocean compass]

commodity terminal

[zealous kindle]

OK ty

[zealous kindle]

how do i know when commodity has been loaded into my ship

[pearl juniper]

when you try to call the ship through asop it will have a forklift icon and a timer if autoload is still hapening, and you won't be able to retrieve it until it's done.

[zealous kindle]

er

well i just got scammed by the game

fml

[ocean compass]

check your local inventory, you may have bought into that. also i think you have forgotten to select the sub-category "Cargo grid" after you found your ship in the dropdown bar

[wise scaffold]

not sure if this would be the right chat, but I accidentally hit submit on a member level hauling mission the other day, and set myself back to negative rep. Would someone with higher level missions sharing me one be able to boost me back up? I do have a hull c for the large amounts, i heard those were working and honestly what i was grinding towards before the big oof lmao

[tacit chasm]

Guys for the love of god, I am losing my mind here. Is there a way to quickly move your stuff I.e. weapons to a 8scu box without dragging every item? Something like l shift click maybe?

[ocean compass]

change the view to when you can see your undersuit, drag the undersuit into the box, it will transfer everything 1 shot

[tacit chasm]

Not on me, weapons already inside my local inventory

To move them between stations

[ocean compass]

...your question was literally " Is there a way to quickly move your stuff I.e. weapons to a 8scu box without dragging every item? Something like l shift click maybe?" which i gave you a way by using undersuit

if you want to move between stations, put into a box and transfer. no other ways

[small galleon]

Thanks brother. Piggy banking on some questions. Is there a way to open up ship's external inventory? Lol

[limpid sluice]

I dont know if it's any better, but you can use the freight elevator kiosk to load stuff up into crates as well.

[ocean compass]

ship external inventory? or internal storage compartments?

[covert glacier]

Hello, I am new to the game. I used my Vulture to acquire 20 boxes of RMC. I am at the commodity trader, attempting to sell the goods. It says the retailer will not purchase the goods in 1 SCU format? How do I change it?

[ocean compass]

it should, are you at TDD instead of Admin?

its a common mistake

1SCU is definitely sellable

[covert glacier]

What is a TDD?

[ocean compass]

excellent question. i dont remember the exact meaning, but its a shop lol

[covert glacier]

I am planetary services in NB

[ocean compass]

shit i dont recall the exact shop name for NB (im not based there), but it should be at the commons, look for gracia greens, keep it on your right, go infront theres a entrance to next section, run thru forward, keep forward until you enter a building, thats where the TDD is

i hope that helps, maybe someone else can answer it better lol

[spare cloud]

Map_nb

[jolly dagger]

New Babbage City Map
• The Commons

Graphic by Citko

[spare cloud]

Green area, top circle.
You want to go all the way to the TDD, on top of it.

You're just below it at Planetary services. They're the Admin office of New Babbage, so not the place to sell RMC

[covert glacier]

It's all the way in the back.

I found it.

Wish they would just put it right up front.

[covert glacier]

Can I repack all my RMC into 32 SCU crates for my Raft to make transport easier?

[spare cloud]

No, but you can load your RAFT with 1 SCU boxes

[covert glacier]

96 times

[mild pumice]

Or repack into 8s then it's only 12 boxes

8scu is the biggest storeall

[covert glacier]

How do you repack

[mild pumice]

Put all the RMC and the 8scu boxes (buy at cargo deck) in the warehouse then use the kiosk or freight elevator UI to move the 1scu boxes into the 8scu ones

Selling is a reversal, you have to unpack them all in the warehouse at the other end

[covert glacier]

So you can keep your 8 SCU boxes afterwards?

[mild pumice]

Yep which is good since they're expensive

[covert glacier]

Do you think the Raft is a good cargo ship for a new player?

[mild pumice]

I like the RAFT it's a bit tricky to load the 32scu boxes but you won't be hauling those often. It's a shame a lot of the cargo missions are 100-110scu just a bit too much for it

If you're trading consider buying 6x 16scu as that's the fastest way to load up

[covert glacier]

Do you think it's worthwhile to just invest in a different ship? What's that other ship called? Starfleet max or something? The 128 scu slow cargo hauler with internal storage and storage in the hallway.

[mild pumice]

The Freelancer Max, yeah that's a good ship but a bit of the space you can't use so still in the same boat with the 100scu loads as they come in mostly 8scu boxes. But that's the same for all the ships that size, the C1 is surprisingly good you can fit quite a bit off grid.

Consider the constellation Taurus as the next step up.

The starlancer if that's what you meant looks like it's going to be really good but might need a crew member or two to run effectively

[covert glacier]

I've considered the new Starlancer Max, but I was talking about the Freelancer Max, yeah. Don't know if I am being efficient or not. I got a Vulture, and a Cutty Black to run around RMC. I normally stock up RMC at the closest panel location then do a cargo run to the highest seller. Kinda need a cargo ship.

[muted briar]

anyone know where i would go to trade armour and things like that? im new to that sort of thing so is there a discord or something that people generally use?

[covert glacier]

#market-street

[vestal ravine]

There's a Market Street and a Grand Barter Bazaar channel up above...

[proud jasper]

Freelancer max is a boss

[vestal ravine]

You can test fly my Free Max if you want.

[proud jasper]

120 scu is great. Buy one or get a starlancer max and just use the free freelancer max

[vestal ravine]

Reminder newer players there is a big Free Fly event coming up. IAE...

[spare cloud]

108 still have 12 SCUs lock behind a door too small

[proud jasper]

It's atill really good

[sonic fiber]

or better yet, in my ship 🙂 . Back in 2024 you could buy and sell stuff right from your pocket

[zealous kindle]

Me using my A2 as cargo ship because the game deleted my C2

[proud jasper]

Same thing really

[zealous kindle]

Except it has <1/3 the cargo capacity

Tho I did abuse the salvage cargo thingy to get it a while back

Does that still work?

[pearl juniper]

The duping bug? They fixed that. And wiped and or banned a bunch of people who were abusing it

[zealous kindle]

no the going to a salvage mission and getting tonnes of crazy cargo

like the "in the wake of disaster" mission with like 4 ships full of maze or whatever

[pearl juniper]

Ahhh. I'm not sure. I know salvage isn't crazy money like it was back in 3.18 or whenever that was (before my time)

[pastel flame]

You can't run nothing but the highest value cargo, but it's still very profitable compared to most loops.

[zealous kindle]

I'd check one out again but they wiped my money :/

Starting from broke again

[vestal ravine]

I've been seeing like 3 eggs and 8 Slam or so for Wake. Vaughn is still great as are some of the ERT's with Maze, etc.

Dm me if you want I have elite tier Vaughn but need a second hand.

[zealous kindle]

Ah so Wake isn't as OP anymore lol that sucks

[vestal ravine]

Still good for a Reclaimer...but the glory days are long gone.

[zealous kindle]

Guess I gotta earn money the normal way to get my C2 back

[small galleon]

Anyone having problems with the Zeus cargo with a box not locking into the grid along with the box, leaving a sizeable gap between them?

[pastel flame]

She's in a state right now and doesn't settle nicely for cargo, just heads up, might be fixed any time, might not

[pastel flame]

I find it happens the most when I have a box next to it on the grid which is not snapped, but sometimes they just straight up break, especially if you have 2-3 people loading at once.

[zealous kindle]

oh yeah the A2 is pretty dodgy rn too lol

[pastel flame]

Yeah, you can use it but it's way greasier than usual

[zealous kindle]

I mean i havent blown up or lost any cargo yet

[pastel flame]

I've done a few 9 bangers in the C2 but after those experiences it's just not worth it when I have the Taurus

Mostly doing missions

What I want is a stable c2 with a cargo tractor remote turret off the copilot seat, that has the ATLS beam functionality. Then we're cookin' with gas!

Suregrip I think the mod will be called?

[zealous kindle]

i want to be able to load cargo from hauling missions easier

gimme a forklift or smthn

[craggy tapir]

take the m2 front turret
place it on the c2
make it tractor beam

boom

profit

[pastel flame]

I'll wait, but fun idea 🙂

Taurus killing it rn

[craggy tapir]

when using taurus beam, i always place the box further in or out

i miss the last scu row

[bleak talon]

patch is live

[zealous kindle]

whats the patch?

[sonic fiber]

And crash

[red ridge]

hey has anybody used any trade routes since the patch to see if freight elevators are working on mining posts?

[winged musk]

Saw people say they did it.

[bleak talon]

can i land to loreville with cs 2 ?

[humble merlin]

Should be able to go anywhere with CS2, I don't think places open fire until CS3

Could be wrong though

[bleak talon]

can you trade stolen cargo in loreville ?

[humble merlin]

If a cargo has "contracted" in it's name, no. Otherwise all goods are tradable where they normally are.

So if you looted some players ship that had RMC in it, yeah you could sell that RMC at Lorville

[bleak talon]

hey im at the elevator

[pearl juniper]

shouldn't be able to. It will be marked as stolen and only sellable at a NQA (red) terminal. Unless the stuff you looted originated in an NPC ship from a bounty or something. But if it's from their salvage work, or (I think) they purchased it, it will be linked to their character.

[bleak talon]

i out everything it say load content but its not loading

did they change selling terminal

in grim hex ?

[craggy tapir]

Dont think so

Why

[cloud robin]

Still the good old admin terminal

[craggy tapir]

i have seen on SC trade tools that RMC is now best to sell in NB

[humble merlin]

Someone said it may be marked as stolen if you got it from another players ship so be careful about that but yeah

[ebon cedar]

Any pirate would tell you of course you can't sell stolen cargo anywhere you want. Specific, limited places. It makes sense... Check UEX

[acoustic knoll]

hi has somone a guide on wehre wich elevators are and which max scu size they can handle ?

[craggy tapir]

depends
ground elevators only take up to 24scu
hangar take 32scu

DC elevators also take 32scu

[flint delta]

Aye does anyone know how much is the C2 starlifter ? In game currency idk how its called

I want to start doing cargo missions

[spare cloud]

You can check !erkul for price and buy location of every ship ⬇️

[jolly dagger]

#DPSCalculator

• Calculator • Shops • Ships • Weapons •

[flint delta]

Wont load for me , must be this trash wifi at my uni

Ill search it up online

[spare cloud]

Else !itemfinder will have the answer too

[jolly dagger]

Universal Item Finder

Use the website to search for any item (and where to obtain them) in-game.

[flint delta]

This worked! The C2 price IS NOT 3 million idk who lied to me

God damnit this will take forever lol

[ebon cedar]

Got much trouble on 3.24.2 (and 3.24.2a I guess) to grid 24 SCU on ground. Salvage sites. By trouble I mean : not working. 16 are fine.

[small galleon]

I've been having horrible luck with hauling. Lost rep and now back to rookie after hitting junior from crashing and the mission abandoning. You think trading is a better choice?

[cosmic vine]

yes but kinda annoying tho with the new cargo update

[small galleon]

Why, what happened?

[cosmic vine]

well you used to be able to load off your cargo just with the terminal

now you have to put them all on the freight elevator

it takes so much time that I just go to places where there are hangars now

[wheat moss]

Depends where you are, if there is a hangar you can auto load/unload

[cosmic vine]

that's why I said I go to hangars, but these places are much less profitable

and there's a significant fee for using aut load

[small galleon]

Auto unloading is trading exclusive? Or did I miss out with it on hauling as well

If I crash, I wont have the same issues with doing hauling?

[cosmic vine]

I almost never do hauling, but I guess if you have a missions that contains a place where there are hangars you could use auto load too

[small galleon]

I mean same issues as hauling where I abandon the mission and I'm stuck with unusable cargo?

[cosmic vine]

well its nothing about missions

trading is like individual

so you will never have unusable cargo

because you buy what you need to sell by yourself

[coarse ember]

Auto load/unload is trade exclusive, can't use it in hauling missions

[small galleon]

Thanks! The trading tool sites also dont seem to work for me

[coarse ember]

Tried both SC trade tools and uexcorp?

[small galleon]

SC trade tools doesnt work for me for some reason.

Havent with Uexcorp

[cosmic vine]

how doesnt it work

[small galleon]

After setting the filters and filling up the info, nothing happens

[coarse ember]

Remembering to click the submit button? Appears to be working for me

[small galleon]

Yeah. Might try the app actually

No luck on the browser

[coarse ember]

Works in mobile browser, would be nice if they did have a app tho

I imagine the hardest part would probably be 1 backend stuff and 2 UI given I think android only does their own flutter/kotlin or c for apps before they're packed into apks but haven't checked in years

[small galleon]

I actually found their app

[coarse ember]

Oh they have a mobile app? I thought they just had the companion app for PC so people could update prices themselves

[zealous kindle]

wait they got an app?

[small galleon]

I don't know but I searched it on the Google play store and I found SC Trade Tools

[mild pumice]

Do shield prevent you from using your tractor to remove cargo now? Was only able to push the boxes out from inside like when you get that invisible wall on the freight elevator (was using Caterpillar)

[cloud robin]

The Caterpillars are weird, you can only pull cargo that's inside the ship if you're inside the ship

Whether it's fully alive or soft deathed

Not exactly shields, I'd imagine it being some problems with the doors

[mild pumice]

It's weird it wasn't like that before the .2a patch

[cloud robin]

It was

I started seeing it in 3.24.2

[mild pumice]

I've been running haulage missions with it, around 100 missions never had an issue till today

[mild pumice]

Ah, bulk of my work was .1

[cloud robin]

I encountered that issue 2 days ago while doing a bounty

Haven't found a fix yet

[mild pumice]

Must've started .2 then

I didn't play much due to the instability

[leaden monolith]

Really dumb question but you are using RMB to pick up and move items on and off the grid?

[mild pumice]

Yeah of course

It just won't grab the boxes from outside the ship, very weird

[acoustic knoll]

i cant use push and pull on my conie tractor bam turret alt + wheel doesnt work anymoe anything changed is ther ea keybind i am missing ? cant find anything

nvm foudn the keybind

[tacit bone]

Question for the haulers out there—
im trying to get my hauling rep, but my Zeus CL cargo grid has been annoying me with its poorly-designed dimensions. Is there a different ship that would be better to use? I’m considering trying to get a little more money and buy the Hull A or RAFT for hauling missions. Currently, I have a Nomad, Cutty Black, Zeus CL, C2, and Caterpillar.

[coarse ember]

c2 and caterpillar work well for hauling, both you can take multiple contracts and just keep each of them on separate grids to avoid getting them mixed up between deliveries

[ocean compass]

C2 is definitely the best out of your ships for contracts. i dont quite like caterpillar because its hard to take out the cargo from outside when your landed, the tractor beam seems to hit some wall

c2 however, is huge. its fine your used to big ships.

i personally run only small 10ish scu missions, i want a faster ship so im actually using a taurus + ATLS parked in cargobay for hauling missions. i actually think perhaps a corsair will be better designed for hauling

taurus cargo grid arent the best for sorting out things into piles

[tacit bone]

Thanks @ocean compass . I also only intend to run small missions, so I'm looking for a faster ship as well. I'm bummed my Corsair got randomly wiped last month </3.

[pearl juniper]

Oh. Bummer. I was going to say, I like the Corsair for small hauling missions

[late gull]

Any one up for a run

[coarse cape]

does hull c trading work?

If so what routes are yall running

[cloud robin]

Unless you're manually loading it, no

[coarse cape]

[ocean compass]

https://youtu.be/kJkfPL_sWE8?si=_FzqVVTlIBh9UdLs

you can watch for yourself

fresh video by Cpt. Foxy trying out hull C trading

[gaunt pendant]

is there a resource that shows the compatible scu sized boxes for the cargo hold of ships? For example the freelancer max can hold 120 scu but only 4 of 24 scu sized boxes

[craggy tapir]

uhh

yes

[coarse ember]

There's cargo grids pinned in the channel though not updated for Zeus yet I think

[pulsar trellis]

Ships weapons not firing but ammo count is going down? Anyone have any ideas?

[craggy tapir]

there is an update

not in pins

but this from me

[ocean compass]

this sounds like your using attritions. attritions are not working

please swap for another weapon

[mild pumice]

lol don't use 4scu boxes with the Argo Truck - they're a bitch to get off 😄

[craggy tapir]

why is sc trade tools showing that rmc is so low rn

like

last patch rmc was 17k at lorville

now its all over the place

[mild pumice]

I have a load to sell now, I'll let you know what it is at Orison

[craggy tapir]

yesterday it was 15k at lorville for best sell

now its 13.1k at NB

[mild pumice]

still not bad tbh

I was salvaging for about an hour, even if I just get 400k I'm cool with that

I had a 16k and 22k right next to eachother so that was nice

[craggy tapir]

salvage jobs?

[mild pumice]

nah panels

[craggy tapir]

ah

panels

[mild pumice]

even lower at Orison usually 500k for a load:

but meh, I'd rather be able to sell then have to wait for demand

[cloud robin]

13k?

Damn

[mild pumice]

is what its is, low confidence in the markets due to Trump 😄

[craggy tapir]

apparently you cant sell rmc at area 18

i though i could

cuz i did a few times

[mild pumice]

you used to be able to must've changed it

cos it was the best place to sell both next to eachother

[craggy tapir]

also whats the red terminal at providence plattform in orison for?

[mild pumice]

it's like their admin office

so where you would sell construction mats

and other stuffs like gems

[craggy tapir]

ahh

i always though that terminal was for everything

and was stuck on like 40scu of beryl

and thought stock was full

[zealous kindle]

you can put stuff in trucks?!

THERES TRUCKS?

need to add forklifts next

[mild pumice]

Yes the new Argo CS something or other

[cloud robin]

Wait is the CSV in LIVE?

[mild pumice]

I think it has forks too

[zealous kindle]

damn i want one, but money got wiped and c2 got deleted

[cloud robin]

Pledge only I assume

[mild pumice]

Yeah

[mild pumice]

Indeed

[cloud robin]

fuck

[zealous kindle]

hold up imma buy one

[mild pumice]

LTI token

[zealous kindle]

wtf is a warbond

[spare cloud]

!warbond ⬇️

[jolly dagger]

Warbond

• Special promotions that may include a price discount or special items (extended insurance or special ship skins).
• Orders must use new money (store credit cannot be applied).

Nice whale!

[spare cloud]

Discounted + LTI

[zealous kindle]

ty, so basically its better

[spare cloud]

For this one

[spare cloud]

If you don't have store credits to spend, yes, no reason not to go for Warbond

If you want LTI tokens it's also the only way

[mild pumice]

Moar pics (love the multi tool storage)

Fits in anything a cyclone will

It's perfect for outpost looting you can park it by the habs

[zealous kindle]

Will it fit in an A2? I don't have any experience with not ship vehicles

game deleted my C2, so I'm using my A2 as cargo lol

[mild pumice]

Don't see why not, assume that fits a Rover? Or even a tonk?

It carries 4scu, just avoid the 4scu box as it's a pain to remove

2x2 or 4x1 is best

[zealous kindle]

Yeah its like removing any box thats sandwiched between other boxes lol

now i can do hauling missions easier

ty

[mild pumice]

Enjoy

[ocean compass]

i watched a video where a youtuber uses the inbuilt storage for this truck to loot bodies quickly. basically store own gear in the truck via undersuit removing, then he grab the undersuit from the npc bodies faster looting

doable on breathable atmosphere only of course

store in truck, not the scu boxes so dont mix up

i thought that was pretty sick

[sonic fiber]

That truck doesnt make sense when we have tractor beams. They truck should have its own tractor which pickes up multiple boxes and hovers them in front of it

[zealous kindle]

Hauling missions require moving from elevator to ship and vice versa, which is a major pain if its all 1 SCU boxes so the truck makes it way easier

[tulip pebble]

Are there issues with the scrap yard cargo elevators? They bug out a lot, or won't come back up again after using them the first time. Or, if they do come back up, you can't resnap etc? (EG selling drugs etc)

[peak wyvern]

With bases, maybe there will be use for driving where you can't fly, and tractor can't reach without running far

I hope there be use for the mule

[sonic fiber]

Not loading it on the truck. I'm saying truck actually tractors the boxes. Like atls but multiple boxes at once

[zealous kindle]

Then that'd just be a forklift

sort of

[sonic fiber]

Right but with a tractor beam instead of a fork and bed

I guess if you have a reason for the truck to go along distance then it makes sense. But has the game is right now there's no need to use the truck to go from the freightlift to your ship

[zealous kindle]

my lazy ass getting it to do exactly that

[small galleon]

Aaaand I'm lost.

[cloud robin]

You can find cargo trolleys at distribution centers

[craggy tapir]

Flew my raft fully loaded with gold into my orison hangar and it just exploded

Nice 600k loss

👍

[craggy tapir]

Cargo trolleys are the small one
You mean grav carts

[cloud robin]

Yeah that

[cloud robin]

[craggy tapir]

[cloud robin]

Goofy ass emoji bruh

[mild pumice]

Was probably the hangar with the obstruction in the middle if you see that you need to avoid it. It's like a small box in the middle lol. Sorry for the cargo loss that sux

It's like a floating landing light or something right in the middle of the hangar doors, that in the doors were desync server side and really closed 😢

[zealous kindle]

YOU WHAT

[cloud robin]

Ye

[still ridge]

anyone got hull c working ?

[cloud robin]

No, don't use it

It likes to take your money and bugger lff

[mild pumice]

Is there a good place to look I looked all around and couldn't find one

[cloud robin]

The rooms with a bunch of iron

They don't always spawn tho, or someone has already taken them

[mild pumice]

Rooms of Iron?

Oh are they inside the main warehouse?

I only looked outside

[cloud robin]

Inside

Not the big main rooms, bit the ones on the other side

[mild pumice]

Thanks, if you keep it in your ship/hangar does it persist

[cloud robin]

They should persist

Not sure if you store it while it's in the ship tho

[mild pumice]

Fantastic, I'll be having a look tomorrow!

[craggy tapir]

no, i was in the middle, i just backed back a bit, then boom

[mild pumice]

I've had my ship a couple of times destroyed whilst storing but that's only happened at New Babbage

Just dissappears and shows as destroyed

[small galleon]

Anyone know if the Zeus CL has internal storage?

[cloud robin]

It should have 1 950K µSCU of internal storage

[small galleon]

Is it accessible physically? Is it the lockers on the sleeping quarters?

[mild pumice]

Yes it has several lockers

Oh wait that's the ES but it should too

[small galleon]

Ah got it. My mind borked out a bit

[cloud robin]

You can see this info on spviewer.eu

[feral steeple]

Are they ever going to fix the C2 Ramps/landing gear?

[cloud robin]

Yes of course, they might include it in 3.24.3

[feral steeple]

lol might

[pearl juniper]

Or they might fix it in 4.2. Who knows 🤷‍♂️

[ocean compass]

nah its actually a "feature" at this rate 😛

[cloud robin]

It's called an alpha game for a reason

[zealous kindle]

What ship should I upgrade to next for cargo? currently using A2 (game deleted my C2)

[cloud robin]

In game or pledge?

[zealous kindle]

In game

[cloud robin]

How much do you have atm

[zealous kindle]

like 200k LOL

its a hard life

[spare cloud]

You're doing hauling contracts ?
Honestly A2 is fine, you can just stack the shit off grid

[cloud robin]

Okay, how fast do you usually earn money?

[cloud robin]

I mean it works, but it's gonna jump around and the bomb bays aren't helping

[spare cloud]

Oh yes it's helping

It's dissuasive

[cloud robin]

[spare cloud]

And you get an extra S3 shield

[zealous kindle]

Rn i sell Astatine for like 40k profit a run, and junior hauling for 20-27k per, they both take a while, maybe like an hour

[cloud robin]

Ok so hauling level money

Not the best that is

[zealous kindle]

My A2 is busted cause it got trapped when I was landing and the doors closed on it

[zealous kindle]

Its p good if I get lucky and manage to stack like 3 of them lol

[cloud robin]

There are better missions

Which you can solo in an A2 to be fair

[zealous kindle]

what missions?

[cloud robin]

Illegal ERTs

[zealous kindle]

How do I get these missions?

and what do u do

[cloud robin]

Heard of my best buddy Vaughn?

[zealous kindle]

Heard of, haven't used

[cloud robin]

Max rep Vaughn can make you millions per hour

[zealous kindle]

I don't have max tho lol

[cloud robin]

I could help you with some

If you're free in the weekend

[zealous kindle]

Should be, shoot me a dm when ur free.

[blazing kiln]

can i sell 24scu weevle eggs?

[modern agate]

anyone else unable to buy cargo into a docked hull?
only lets me if it's in a hangar

[ocean compass]

yes

[still ridge]

love how cig releases the cargo update and you cant make money hauling anymore

[ocean compass]

the entire 3.24 patch name is a joke

cargo empire, heh

[still ridge]

frfr

more like headache empire

[hardy root]

anyone know where i can sell 32scu slam containers?

[ocean compass]

dispose of any 32 SCU drugs. all not sellable

[zealous kindle]

Wait fr?

Bug?

[craggy tapir]

no

ground elevators cant fit 32scu

and stations dont accept 32scu

[cloud robin]

The freight elevators are made for sizes up to 32 SCU. Grim HEX also doesn't like to take 32 SCU sometimes

[cloud robin]

Depends

I've sold 32 SCU crates of Maze

[ocean compass]

maze seems to be sellable true

everything else is not

[craggy tapir]

maze is good

[ocean compass]

my team just throw away any 32 scu drugs

[craggy tapir]

damn

we really need a way to split containers

and/or combine them

doing vulture runs is good

[cloud robin]

It's planned. Just no release date yet

[ocean compass]

there's a way. but not guaranteed. put only the 32 scu drug boxes on the cargo grid of the npc ship. blow up ship. pray that container survive + break into smaller

seen it work ONCE out of uncountable of tries

[minor ridge]

Can I do the solar hauling missions with Hull C? I know it says drop off at freight elevator.....but can we not just unload it via the station cargo?

[spare cloud]

Yes you can

[minor ridge]

Thank you ❤️ I knew there was an update for hull c but wasn't sure if it actually fixed it or not given the wonderful history that has been the Hull C to this point

[minor ridge]

How to start loading at a legrange like arc l2 for hull c hauling contract? I don't see an option or way haha

[spare cloud]

I'm not sure Lagrange points work for the Hull C

Afaik it's only the orbital space stations and the jump point ones

There are hauling contracts dedicated to the Hull C that should take you to these places

[minor ridge]

That makes sense! I was wondering if that was the problem! Thanks again. I'll just do these ones manually with another ship then try it out at actual station 🙂

[zealous kindle]

I sold my cargo yesterday and the game didnt pay me fml

[craggy tapir]

i hate orison

yesterday my raft exploded when i landed in a hangar

lost 600k

today

caterpillar
nice and slow touchdown

then boom again

lost 600k again

[crimson mantle]

AFAIK It's only the planet stations and the jump point gateways

[whole phoenix]

That's mostly server desync issues, not planet specific

[craggy tapir]

so i died to a server desync

twice

24 hours apart

on different regions

[zealous kindle]

thats p nooby

[gaunt pendant]

taurus is 2x24 2x32 ad the rest is 2scu boxes on top? Am i reading that correctly?

[craggy tapir]

or 4scu

anything that is 1scu high

its 56x4x3

[gaunt pendant]

oh so anything 1scu high on top so i can do 4scu boxes

[gaunt pendant]

but the bottom is 2x24 and 2x32 only?

oh becaues its 56

How long does it take outposts to restock on gold?

[craggy tapir]

15 mins

For like 100scu

[sinful spade]

has anyone got any 16x scopes for sale

[small galleon]

Is this per SCU?

[ocean compass]

take note, there was a bug about not selling at the city that your based out of

supposed to be fixed, maybe thats why you were not paid

[craggy tapir]

No
You buy for 130 Uec and sell for 170 Uec

40 Uec profit per scu

So 100scu gives 4k uec profit

[small galleon]

Thanks!

[valid kraken]

Pirates are getting much worse in past few days. Be careful and pay for escorts

[zealous kindle]

ffs, thats all my money gone

[tropic swallow]

Why have they taken away buying drugs?

[wind pilot]

Cause drugs are bad, hmkay.gif

[tropic swallow]

Ok but the actual reason?

Is it cause the sell locations dont have freight elevators

[leaden monolith]

yes

[tropic swallow]

What is DCSR2?

[vestal ravine]

Maze and Quantanium can be sold at Grim Hex, right? Also the NQA terminals.

[vestal ravine]

Seems it is a drug that helps make Slam.

[autumn stag]

have you guys run in to a bug that you cant sell your cargo on a space station? I've tried baijini point and another random station. they just wont take medical supply at all(which they do take in normal case), no mater its in the local storage or in the ship.

[proud jasper]

is it smarter to bring multiple loads and sell them all at once at a place or simply sell single loads?

[gaunt pendant]

This is sc.tradetools?

[vagrant pagoda]

guys my cargo dissappear when i recal my ships. but when i try to load in new cargo i cant seemed tto load in the cargo grid. Any idea how do i recover those cargo or the cargo grid?

can ignore is resolve

[cloud robin]

Yes

[vital juniper]

What are people trading rn?

[bleak talon]

can you sell 32 scu crates at brio ?

[quick narwhal]

Anyone figured out the actual storage capacity of the MaXx yet?

[quick narwhal]

No

[bleak talon]

can you split them ?

2 16 for example

[quick narwhal]

Yea i think max is 24 scu

What are you trying to sell,

[wheat moss]

You can't split a crate, gotta buy them at the correct size

[humble merlin]

Can't sell 8 scu of altruciatoxin :(

[quick narwhal]

I had this issue once before I swapped a few servers and it fixed

[hollow frigate]

in my C2, Hephaestanite. Smaller ships Gold

[humble merlin]

Cool, I just logged out there and will try again later

[mild pumice]

Fully loaded Starlancer Max (will take 32s but I had to use 16s as you can't buy a maxlift in NB) + 128 in the middle, 2x 48 on the sides in the rear bay plus an extra 64scu easy off grid.

[quick narwhal]

So it can hold way more in the rear. Sick lol

[mild pumice]

yeah I put an extra 4x 16 in, so 2x 32 no problem, maybe more

[slate spruce]

Is there some cargo layout pic, similar to those in pinned messages?

[mild pumice]

Not yet just look at the pics you can see how it works last pic is the rear grid (would take 2x 32 + 8x 4)

middle takes 4x 32

[small galleon]

How much will the Starlancer be you guys think?

[mild pumice]

no idea it's 3-6 months away (assume you mean in game)

gotta be somewhere north of 10mil I'd say

[zealous kindle]

damn how u get it?

[mild pumice]

pledge

also evo and wave 1 get it to test in PTU

[zealous kindle]

thought it was in concept

[mild pumice]

it's coming out for IAE, it's availble in PTU to test

[zealous kindle]

oh, when do u think itll be out for main game?

[mild pumice]

IAE - 22nd Nov (pledge owners)

to buy in game 3-6 months

[zealous kindle]

oh imma pledge it lol

[mild pumice]

from what I can see it's a great ship!

fills the gap between the Taurus and Cat/C2 nicely

[zealous kindle]

yeah rn i have taurus via pledge, had a c2 that was deleted lol

[mild pumice]

weird the cargo is under my inventory to sell, not the ship! (yes it's still loaded in the stored ship) - if I choose the ship drop down it's empty

[zealous kindle]

literally

i have like 2 of my inventories too

[mild pumice]

seems to work 🙂

[zealous kindle]

the game took my cargo and didnt pay me

now im broke

[mild pumice]

yeah something wrong the numbers dont add up and it says load/not unload

will have to check IC

[pearl juniper]

It's a bug, the drop downs don't correlate to the locations properly

https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-137621

There might be a duplicate with more reports, but that's the one I found when looking the other day

[zealous kindle]

Time to check if I got paid again

[mild pumice]

I was supposed to get 35k but I got 3k lol. Bad deal

[zealous kindle]

I was supposed to get 180k, got 0

straight up scam

daylight robbery

[little condor]

It's because they have high inventory already and can only hold a certain amount. Since you cargo is in 8scu boxes, it likely puts it at over capacity and therefore doesnt allow the sale until the station inventory gets back to lower amounts

[abstract root]

how long does smo18 take to restock on gold?

nvm it restocked

[mild agate]

Hey i'm just wondering what are the pay-outs for max rank Covalex missions?

Just wondering if it's worth grinding the rep doing cargo missions

[late plume]

Anyone knows how to get the ATLS to show what you're pointing at / moving? It works sometimes but I haven't been able to figure out how/when

The indicator that shows the content of the boxes I mean

[vital juniper]

Yeah because drugs and rmc is broken right?

[hollow frigate]

Because I'm a good boy and only do legal commodities 😝

[lavish wharf]

Hi guys,

I've bought a 24 scu container at Arrcorp mining area 141. But I don't find the fret elevator ? Where is it pls ?

[hollow frigate]

if I'm correct they only move 24 SCU boxes

[lavish wharf]

How can I retrieve my boxes ? There is no terminal for the elevator :c

[hollow frigate]

can't say. never had it.
Panel might have broken. Or it's there but you have to look more around the elevator.

[lavish wharf]

Welle i've ragequitted, just lost 125k AUEC. I'm enought x)

[cosmic vine]

anyone recommends the BEST trade route for the C2? No matter risk

[lavish wharf]

we can no more rent the argo raft ?

[tall karma]

Seems rentals got squashed with .2 update

[lavish wharf]

Chris want's we to get a mental breakdown tonight

[small galleon]

Also curious. Made it up to junior before the servers kept abandoning my contracts. Back to rookie

[hollow frigate]

In my opinion it is hauling between stations to reduce risk of freight elevators not working. And no manual loading.
https://uexcorp.space/trade/routes?commodity=hephaestanite

[small galleon]

Whats everyone trading nowadays?

[hollow frigate]

☝🏾

[zealous kindle]

cant wait for starlancer max

[crimson mantle]

These routes. There are more profitable ones overall, but stationnto station is the best money per hour as loading small boxes by hand on the C2 takes a long time.

[fluid sentinel]

has a ship ever went up in price during IAE or before?

[paper summit]

So...just an observation but happy to be convinced......with hauling game loop, other then game bugging etc, there is really no risk or excitement! I've not seen any posts about npc or pirate interactions and the money is well underwhelming.

[fluid sentinel]

thinking of grabbing something like a hull or ironclad

[zealous kindle]

the excitement is the game bug

me who lost my life savings due to one

[paper summit]

Hmmmm...so it's like playing Russian roulette with the game.....se if you can complete 200 stacked cargo missions before it bites you're butt......!

[abstract root]

yeah how long does it take for a mining facility to restock on gold?

[mild agate]

So what's the actual cargo loop? I've tried to buy commodities planet side but the elevators have been bugged every time, what are people doing? Ports to cities?