industrial-professions

[tall karma]

Was your ship stored?

[cloud flare]

No

[tall karma]

You cannot sell from your ship without using "auto-unloading" which requires the ship to be stored. Loading it into the freight elevator doesn't complete the sale. Instead the transfer complete just means the cargo is now in the warehouse inventory for that location

So instead of selling from your ship, you now pick the station/city in the drop down and sell from there.

However, if you initiated a sale from your ship with auto-unloading and got the "processing" spinning display that never finished, you wont be able to sell at that station.

[cloud flare]

By cannot do you mean its not working, but it should be?

I believe it is this issue https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-125136

Just going to accept my loss at this point

[tall karma]

Auto-unloading is checked by default when you attempt to sell from your ship, but the ship has to be stored and the station has to be functioning (most aren't doing auto-unloading correctly right now) for it to work.

You did it right when you put the cargo in the elevator, just not the selling part

I would go back to the kiosk, select the station/city name from the drop down, and try to sell from there.

[cloud flare]

I've lost my cargo now, when I sent it down the elevator it accepted the cargo, it just didnt give me the money

[tall karma]

Hrmm, suspicious thats never happened to me

Where did you deposit the cargo?

Stationwise.

[cloud flare]

Seraphim

[tall karma]

When you go to the elevator kiosk in your hangar, and the elevator is DOWN (closed door), you cannot see any cargo?

[cloud flare]

Elevator is now up, no cargo visible

[tall karma]

Send it down

Then look on the right side

[cloud flare]

Still empty unfortunately

[tall karma]

Ahh welp must have been that selling initiated from an unstored ship probably stole your cargo

[cloud flare]

You know whe you complete a transfer for a contract and it shows you that it has accepted the cargo and then completes the contract?

[tall karma]

Oh, this was contract cargo? A mission was involved?

[cloud flare]

I got that screen, it just didnt do anything other than steal my shit 😔

[cloud flare]

No no, its just the same screen that shows up

[tall karma]

Oh weird, I have never seen that with selling purchased cargo except for auto-unloading successfully my reclaimer or hull c.

I always put cargo in the elevator, and sell from the city/station otherwise.

[cloud flare]

Well, I know to do that next time. This was my first hauling trip outside of the contracts so still finding the ropes. Sunk pretty much all of my UEC into it

[rancid egret]

Hello, i've got a question about the Gatac Syulen. it says it can carry 6 SCU of cargo, im assuming the outside folding trays. does each tray hold 2x1 SCU box or 1 x 2 SCU box ?

[vocal swan]

It's all 1 SCU boxes I believe, two per uh spar? Arm? Tray sounds right. 🤓

[cloud flare]

Is it possible to autoload with contracts?

[tall karma]

No also just say no to auto load at all right now

[rancid egret]

ty sir! gonna buy a 1 SUC box and use it as a storage for my guns/gear and stuff from bunkers 😛

[mild pumice]

Yes that's a good idea just remember anyone can access or just take that box. I used mine to do the 6scu cargo missions too

[rancid egret]

nice ! ya im really only keeping "extra" the good stuff im keeping inside the Syulen in the gun cabinet or in the storage cubby under the bed

xD

[frank warren]

Looks like the ATLS is coming to in-game shops as of .2

[slate spruce]

Yesterday I was trying to load a Caterpillar with 16 SCU containers for hauling mission. Based on the pinned cargo grid layout I'd expect that each of the 4 modules should be able to snap 6 to the cargo grid (in the space of the 4x24 indicated), but no matter how I tried, I couldn't snap the upper layer to match the lower one. I did fit the 4x 2 SCU under the catwalk, but it seems to me that the upper part of the cargo grid is only 5x5x2, instead of 6x4x2 + 5x1x2. Is that really so, or is there some special trick how to snap the cargo there?

[tawdry light]

Are there any lights for the Taurus Cargo bay? Can’t bloody see what I’m loading.

[frank warren]

No sadly

Really needs lights

[mild pumice]

Yeah that's a known issue due to the catwalk you can only get 5x16 (or 2x24 + 2x16) per module plus some 2s

The good news is I didn't come across any missions I couldn't fit in, one was very close but got all on grid.

To get 3x16 in the front you need to be inside the bay to get the boxes back far enough

[slate spruce]

Ok, thanks for confirmation. I stacked several hauling missions and had to squeeze something off grid to fit it all at once. Now I'm feeling bold, I'll try buying 576 1scu boxes with waste and request autoload, let's see what happens...

[slate spruce]

It said Cargo transfer failed, station stockpile remained the same, but money were deducted from my account. Not exactly how one would imagine "transaction". As a bonus I can't take hauling missions anymore, because I had to abandon 3 yesterday due to nonfunctional freight elevators. Eh, time to play something else for a bit...

[tawdry light]

How much is the unloading fee for cargo when selling at TDD terminals?

[lone aspen]

What’s the deal with the 32SCU crates…? Can you sell them?

[pearl juniper]

Not at outposts and scrap yards

[lone aspen]

Can you sell from ship?

Or freights?

[pearl juniper]

What's it a 32 crate of?

[lone aspen]

Neon

[pearl juniper]

Try cru L4

[fathom ledge]

is the ATLS the preferred method now for loading ships? how much faster does it go vs hand or ship tractor beams?

[leaden monolith]

depends on how much cargo you are auto-unloading? It will tell you when you select that option at the TDD. A lot of people are very wary of the auto-load/unload function. It just doesn't work often or well enough to be trusted in the PU.

[pearl juniper]

to give one example of auto load / unload cost, I have done a few C2 trade runs from Baijini to other places, and it's about 20k to load, 20k to unload, load takes about 7 minutes, unload takes about 5 minutes. For the full 696 scu capacity.

for whatever reason, auto load / unload has worked perfectly on the C2 for the half dozen or so times I have used it. I'm not sure it ever worked on my Corsair (tried a couple of times and gave up). Seems to be somewhat ship dependant.

[leaden monolith]

Do you buy the mix of 32's, 24's and 2's as per the pinned cargo layout? Do you buy them all at once or by size? What order do you buy them in?

I've not had a lot of luck with the C2 which is why I'm asking. TIA

[tardy umbra]

Big fan of being able to yoink a ship, park it at CRU-L4, and sell all the maze from the freight elevator. Much easier than before the cargo update.

[pearl juniper]

yeah, I bought 14x 32's, 8x 24's, and 28x 2's. In that order, one after another. Go back to the ASOP terminal and it says "loading in progress" (or something) with a timer for about 7 minutes. Once that finishes, retrieve the ship and it's all there. Or has been so far 🙂

you can only buy one size at a time, so it's three separate buys, but I don't wait for the previous one to finish loading before doing the next.

[leaden monolith]

Thanks for the info. I'll give it another try next time I'm in game.

[ionic elm]

The Taurus tractor turret really needs a spotlight mounted to it...

[tawdry light]

Exactly my thoughts. It’s sad that the cargo bay doesn’t have any controllable illumination.

[tall karma]

It's a game changer if your ship is big. Sucks in a Taurus for example, the tractor turret is way better because ATLS is the fast "brute force" tool.

CIG did state that the ATLS is coming to in game shops with .2

So I'll be happy to refund/melt mine

[frank warren]

Can’t wait to buy it

Just a little over 5mil until I can get a C2 as well

[fathom ledge]

i think there's a reasonable chance we'll see it as a referral bonus within a year, so i'm kinda in the same boat

[tall karma]

I bet it'll be like 200k in game

[ocean compass]

give me your c2 to salvage thanks 😛

[proud jasper]

What good little fast fighter with interior space is there for like under 85 bucks?

[tall karma]

One of the Avengers or 300i

If you need an interior.

125a isn't bad either

[ocean compass]

300i is nice

i have it as my starter, has 8SCU cargo, 3pilot guns + looks cool and luxurious for a 1seater

nomad packages go for like 60 if im not wrong. can consider that too

[woven crescent]

I bought like 250k gold from shubin smo18 but I can’t take it out of the warehouse because it say transferring to warehouse I’ve waited 30mins and sever hoped to different regions

Can any one help

[hallow hearth]

There's no help. This is the state of Star Citizen cargo for months now

[potent eagle]

it's lost

[slate spruce]

Avenger Titan. It's not that fancy, but has a bit more firepower and HP than 300i.

[woven crescent]

Damn

[dusky bramble]

i cant take out the cargo cus the screen doesnt work

the freight manager*

im in rappel idk if its bugged or not can someone pls help

[wheat moss]

Outpost elevator can brake, always check the elevator screen before buying/selling, if it doesn't work you need to change server until you find one that work

[crisp stratus]

So the freigth elevator bug isnt fixed in the 4.0 patch?

[pearl juniper]

what makes you say that?

[wheat moss]

The 4.0 patch isn't out yet, we're even just still testing the 24.2

[proven oasis]

I have an avenger titan rn but I’m looking to do more cargo/hauling missions cause sometimes I’m too tired to do combat stuff

Is it possible to earn good money with the titan or do I have to buy a bigger cargo ship?

If so which one

Keep in mind I’m poor both irl and in game

[wheat moss]

I have the same ship and I started making money by taking corpse retrieval mission in caves in wich I also mined gens to sell them, then you can rent a cargo ship to make trade/hauling

But I don't know the state of gem selling currently

[proven oasis]

How much money are we talking?

[wheat moss]

But yeah, titan is a nice starter ship but once you wanna do something a bit more complex its not a great ship (apart for simple hand crates delivery)

[proven oasis]

Cause right now I’ve done some like 16k hauling contracts with 8 cargo which seems a bit low

[wheat moss]

For a 1 day rent it can go from 50k to 120k

[proven oasis]

And you can make it profitable?

[wheat moss]

Of course, rent a ship with a nice cargo like the taurus, and take multiple hauling contracts at once from a point to another

You will already make around 70% or more of the 1 day renting price

[proven oasis]

Nice nice

So how much profit from a day of hard grinding?

With a cargo ship

[wheat moss]

That depends on how efficient you are and the game rng to provide you with nice hauling contracts

But just look at your contract menu and try to find multiple contracts having the same point A and B

[proven oasis]

Alr, I gotta level up my rep tho

[wheat moss]

Add their reward together and you'll see what you could make in one trip (if you have the cargo space for it)

[proven oasis]

I only have the 15k ish ones

[proven oasis]

Yeah

And what ship is a good cargo ship?

In your opinion

[wheat moss]

I like the taurus, it has quite a good storage for the starting hauling contracts (174), the raft too can be nice but I find loading the side a nightmare (96), there's also the cutlass black but it only has 46 scu, I just use it to move my refinery jobs

[proven oasis]

174 cargo would make a fortune

But take an eternity to load

[wheat moss]

If you wanna have a list of ships to rent for cargo you can go in the cargo center of a leo station and check the renting terminal

[wheat moss]

Taurus have a tractor beam turet too 😉

[proven oasis]

Hmm

Idk how those work

Same as multi tool?

[wheat moss]

Same as tractor beam gun, click on something, move the camera to move it, alt + scroll to change distance, click again to drop or attach to grid

[proven oasis]

Fair

Thanks for the help

[frank warren]

Taurus has 2 cargo areas. The main one which is 168 and a shielded one that is 6.

The main cargo area can fit 14 8scu containers and 14 4scu containers

[proven oasis]

Where is it rented from?

[frank warren]

I believe A18 you can rent it from

[proven oasis]

Alr thanks I’ll check it out tomorrow

[ocean compass]

https://finder.cstone.space/

check the rented ship section.

teaching you to fish mate

[worn vector]

Yo, hull c working in ptu? Atleast more than in the pu?

[proud jasper]

how profitable are the hot load missions usually?

[vague wharf]

anyone having any luck buyiung and selling cargo?

tried SCD-1 on daymar for some gold to sell at MT or Orison... no luck, couldn't even buy. seemed the cargo elevator was jammed

[pearl juniper]

most of the cargo elevators at outposts and salvage yards don't work. The only reliable cargo trade is from / to places with hangers (stations, cities)

[vague wharf]

Any chance next patch will fix this?

oor is cargo just trashed for awhile?

[pearl juniper]

I think they have said it's fixed for the next patch. Will see...

I don't know that it's in any of the patch notes, but there are always tons of fixes and changes that don't get documented there

[vague wharf]

always waiting

got some new VKB gear and lost motivation after just a couple hours of attempted play to even use any of it

[pearl juniper]

the outpost elevators that nobody uses tend to work fine, for what that's worth (ie, the ones that don't sell gold or buy eggs)

so you can always do the hauling missions instead of trade

[ocean compass]

your #1289401234908781023847 person to ask if cargo trading works. and no gold trading does not work

dont bother with outpost trading. if you do bother, check elevator first before buying the cargo

we need a bot that auto replies "Does cargo trading from outpost work?" / "Does Hull C work?" / "Why isnt the cargo elevator working i waited 30mins stuck on moving?"

[solid sigil]

ive dropped a bunch of cargo into a warehouse after seeing the commodity terminal wanted me to drop my cargo on the cargo deck, but when i go back it says my cargo is still there. have idone something wrong?

[ocean compass]

where is "there?"

did you lower the freight elevator?

like you unload into the freight elevator, your supposed to send it down

to get it into local storage

[solid sigil]

in the ship

[solid sigil]

i've done that, but it says I have nothing in local storage

[mild pumice]

I would avoid the method where you create a order sell first then unload, it seems really unreliable.

Either pay for the auto unloading or unload send store first, then go snd sell from your local inventory. Likely you have a bugged transaction now.

[meager compass]

where do i sell weevil eggs

[frank warren]

Normally at Salvage yards, but they are broken

[meager compass]

oh

[frank warren]

So we aren't able to sell them right now

[meager compass]

unlucky

[frank warren]

99% arent working. You might find one here and there, but unlikely

[meager compass]

should i just store them at grim hex than?

[frank warren]

Yeah

[meager compass]

ok

[frank warren]

There is a chance for patch 3.24.2 that cargo is gonna be saved, though normally it wouldn't be

[meager compass]

we can hope

[solid sigil]

🫠

[frank warren]

Their plan is for a no wipe this patch, but that can always change

[meager compass]

so bunkers are essentially not worth rn

[frank warren]

You can get maze

Which sells for like 26 or 28k per 1/8 scu

Plus the halloween masks (Though I have done a few and have yet to get one)

[ocean compass]

selling weapons to players is a thing

[frank warren]

This is true

[ocean compass]

people will pay for the rail guns especially

[meager compass]

didnt know that im relativly new

[ocean compass]

then armor sets too

[frank warren]

Depending on the event that is going on, Railguns sell for a good price

[ocean compass]

check out the market street on top for examples of guns being sold

many people have made their fortunes from selling to players instead of NPCs

[frank warren]

Armor is def a good money maker

If you can get rare ones

I really need to do more bunkers

[craggy tapir]

I'm doing em like hell

Got a rail gun once

Put it in my stor*all crate

The crate disappeared when I unloaded it

[solar bay]

how i know if they rare?

[frank warren]

Mainly just by the looks of them. When you do bunkers, you will see what is normal for gear and then sometimes, you will find something new and they normally look good too

[solar bay]

i got a mask from a bounty that looks rare af but i dont know if it is

[frank warren]

You most likely got a halloween mask. Which is from the event going on right now

People will buy those

[solar bay]

no its not one of those

the halloween ones are bear right?

i got one that looks kinda like a bug

[wheat moss]

Sound like something that is year wide in this game X)

[summer ruin]

anyone trynna do bunkers w me?

[slate spruce]

Ask in #looking-for-session

[small chasm]

I had a bug where none of my cargo would go into the destination, so i abandoned the missions. when i came back from afk, my rep now says im not eligible and the missions are gone

is there any way to fix this? my friend tried to share a haul mission of his own with me but it would not show up for me.

[pearl juniper]

too late now, but in the future, never hid the abandon button on the hauling missions. Just log off and back on and it will abandon without rep loss.

[small chasm]

i didnt think it would be that bad, i was almost through member rank

[slate spruce]

I got the same issue. When you say "in the future", you mean after 3.24.2, or in 4.0?

[small chasm]

your hauling missions are also gone? how long have your been missing. someone said they might come back on their own but idk

ok, confirmed, this JUST popped up

[pearl juniper]

I mean now on the current patch. They may or may not be changing the rep system for hauling missions in either of those two patches (I don't know, but it's possible).

[slate spruce]

~2 days already

[slate spruce]

Ok, starting the game to check it (I was 20% through Experienced rank)
Edit: Nope, still nothing

[mild pumice]

I got around half way through senior and lost the will to live along with the use of my scroll finger, it's turned into a claw

[pearl juniper]

you don't need to scroll constantly. It doesn't move the box, it just sets the range.

[mild pumice]

The most efficient way to move the box is to pull it towards you, move and push it away though, I do everything I can to reduce the scrolling such as swinging the box.

Regardless what you do there's still a lot of scrolling

[slate spruce]

Were you at some specific location? I'm at Tressler and nothing pops up, but maybe if I move to the correct station/city, it'll show up, since some of the missions are location-specific.

[tall karma]

No, ATLS

It's gonna be for sale in game soon!! This week probably!

[mild pumice]

ATLS is garbage for placing boxes, particularly in the Caterpillar, but I do use it for shunting yeah

[vast horizon]

Any info how much its going to cost?

[mild pumice]

1 million dollars

[tall karma]

It's a brute force tool that works good when you have excess space for the cargo.

[tall karma]

Probably like 100k. The MPUV-T was like 250k, and can move vertically (though sucks in general), so ATLS should be much less since it's just a ground tool

[mild pumice]

Wouldn't be surprised if it was close to a million lol

[tall karma]

Can't think of a vehicle that's $40 on the pledge store that costs a mil or more in game. Granted they're all over the place but I'd be shocked if it was more than 200k

[pearl juniper]

it is. But some people tend to scroll constantly the whole time you are moving the box towards you or away from you, and you don't. If you use the right click mode on the tractor beam it will show you the distance to the box, and the set distance as a white line.

[tall karma]

I think right click mode is removed in .2

[pearl juniper]

that would be annoying. Might not be an intentional change though. Remember than .2 is actually 4.0 code, so it's very possible that it is a branch that some of the features and fixes in the .1 code never got implemented into

[tall karma]

They are trying to bring a QOL improvement by making left click tractor mode and right click traversal so you no longer have to switch which results in having no ADS unless I just didn't figure out the new keybind

[pearl juniper]

what's the difference between tractor and traversal?

[mild pumice]

Traversal is zero G drag yoself around

[tall karma]

Traversal let's you grab onto stuff and pull your body to the object

It's also great for finding which box isn't on grid because it will not move boxes locked to grid but will move them if they are not locked down

[pearl juniper]

ahh, gotcha

[pearl juniper]

that sounds handy

[tall karma]

Right now you switch between modes by pressing B

[pearl juniper]

gotcha. Not sure I have ever done that, lol

[tall karma]

But a lot of people don't realize they switched and then get undesired behavior

Or they can't switch fast enough and the target they're trying to latch moves out of range

[ionic elm]

will we ever get ATLS style beams to put on ship tractor turrets?

[slate spruce]

Probably, since they have the mechanics implemented, they might update some old ships with it. The cashgrab is finished, no need to gatekeep it anymore.

[still mauve]

o7

im finding trading cargo commodity extremly difficul to buy or sell

those trading sites are no use right now whats good hauling nowdays

[cloud flare]

every time i try to do commodity trading or even some hauling missions theres always an issue with a cargo elevator

ive sort of given up until the next update

[earnest dagger]

Commodity trading is pretty much shot atm with scrap yard elevators down.

[mild pumice]

I didn't have any successful trades in 3.24 yet but around 100 successful hauling missions so I stuck to those ha ha

[tall karma]

I only had successful trades in the hull c, believe or not. Made a few runs from SS to Baijini for like 300k

[pearl juniper]

Hephastanite from Baijini or Pyro Gateway to wherever

[ornate wren]

Is there a chance that I could borrow an Argo srv from somebody to do these hammerhead cleanup missions?

[tall karma]

They only pay 10k currently

[ornate wren]

Ah ok ok

Cause in the vid I saw he said like 150k

[tall karma]

Yeah in 3.20 they were 250k, but that was heavily exploited so they now pay 10k

They're only good for reclaimer CM farming for the lazy salvager

[ornate wren]

Ight thx for telling me 😉

[frank warren]

Kinda upset they backed off putting the ATLS in the game store for the time being. Was really hoping it would come out with .2

[pearl juniper]

aww, when did they change that?

[frank warren]

Someone made a post today in one of the channels, they backed out of bringing the ALTS to in-game stores on .2 release, but if I understood it right, it will still come out in .2, just not right away and now theses ships are being added to the in-game store.

Mirai Pulse
RSI Ursa Medivac
ARGO MPUV-1T
Aegis - Sabre Firebird

[mild pumice]

Something strange is going on because they removed the new rentals that were added in 3.24.1 and closed down the IC as not a bug. Be a shame if we're back to just the old few rentals

[frank warren]

I can't even fully remember what all was added for .1

[mild pumice]

Ships like the Hull A/RAFT/Taurus

[frank warren]

Ah

Yeah, those should be kept

And we should get the Vulture as a rentable >.>

[mild pumice]

Hopefully it's just an oversight

[proud jasper]

The roc can fit into the freelancer now right?

[pearl juniper]

The latest patch notes say they added it

[frank warren]

oh?

[pearl juniper]

And also says the outpost elevators are fixed

[ocean compass]

Hull A was a excellent rental for me as a newbie

only needs 4x 16SCU to fill up for cargo trading

i hope they dont remove it

[frank warren]

I thought about buyign a Hull A

Not the biggest cargo space compared to what I have, but seems like a little fun ship

[ocean compass]

when the wipe comes at 4.0 i will need that hull A again cos im back to my starter 300i lol

[frank warren]

I go back to my Mustang lol

[ocean compass]

Hull A 64SCU is nothing to laugh at, but it only requires 4x 16SCU to load / unload

really nice starting out vessel

[frank warren]

Yeah

[ocean compass]

for cargo trading

[frank warren]

Though, I refuse to spend anymore money in this game. As I am from Canada and a Mustang itself was 70

Which I don't think is worth it for a game that hasn't come out yet

But I wanted to play SC lol

[ocean compass]

my pledge was from Aug 2013. i will not and have not spent anything more lol

[frank warren]

So had to do it

[ocean compass]

i literally touched game first time 3weeks ago

too much of a buggy mess to justify spending more

also prices are insane. im not spending 300 USD on a ship

[frank warren]

Agree

Glad to see the ALTS get added to stores

[ocean compass]

reddit says 70k for a ATLS

luckily there's plenty of room on a taurus to keep 1

[frank warren]

For some reason, I thought it would of been more lol

[ocean compass]

well...considering its going for USD $40 on the pledge store, i was expecting more too 😛

[frank warren]

Yeah

That is what I was going off

I assumed 200k

[pearl juniper]

In game prices don't really correlate to pledge prices very well

considering the ROC is like 100k, 70k for the ATLS seems reasonable. It's just a tractor beam after all.

[cloud flare]

Whats the difference between using the ATLS and the max lift?

[tall karma]

Youtube

[frank warren]

A lot

[true trench]

Are the cargo elevators on the scrap yards still broken?

[frank warren]

Yep, they will be broken until patch 3.24.2 comes out

[cloud robin]

Depends

Some servers have working elevators

Commonly found on fresh servers

[true trench]

Mh ok I got a lot of eggs and think they will be gone with 24.2…

[frank warren]

There is a chance they might not be this time around. It looks like they want to try to keep everything when .2 drops. But of course that can change

[cloud robin]

It will be a soft wipe anyways, consumables, ammo and commodities

Stored commodities are not yet persistent

[frank warren]

Thats the thing, they want to try to bring them over this upcoming patch.

[still mauve]

Alex ty

and direct missions from cargo 🙂

[pliant matrix]

what happens if I get 30k with a ship full of mission cargo? I know there is a safety for "normal" cargo but how does it works for missions?

nvm it took time but I logged back in to the exact moment 30k happened

[frank warren]

So, when the game crashes (either because the game crashed for some reason or you Alt + F4) the game will keep you in the game for a short amount of time, so when you come back, you are where you were when you crashed. With this being said, you are still in the game while trying to log back in, so because of this, someone can come and kill you or something can happen to you while logging in.

This doesn't matter what you are doing, what cargo you have or where you are in the game, this fail safe will happen, as long as its a crash.

[tall karma]

The cargo stays in your ship on server recovery but the mission is cleared at no rep loss. You just have useless cargo to dump.

[pliant matrix]

I still have the missions. unloading now so idk if it'll work or not but so far no problem

[tall karma]

That's not a "30k" then. You had a crash and got crash recovery

[pliant matrix]

literraly said 30000 error

[tall karma]

The old 30k is gone. It's probably some personal error now

Well I should say 30k can still happen if the server can't recover after it says "server error"

[pliant matrix]

all missions validated (except one because crate went thru the floor xD

idk man it said 30k error then took me around 10min to log back and I was at the exact same place when I got kicked out 🤷‍♂️

[fair cloak]

Is Hull C trading working in PTU at the moment?
Tried earlier, but could not get it to olad to the Hull C at Station

[elder summit]

So since 3.24 I haven’t done any commodity trading, and I understand a lot of people haven’t since you haven’t been able to move the cargo at outposts very safely, at least not without security which does add a fun org / friend component. Have they said if there is a plan for this, like the mech suit or something? Sorry - I haven’t even tried, just done cargo contacts

[limpid sluice]

Security isn't really the issue, lack of working freight elevators seems to be the biggest impediment

[elder summit]

Ah, that tracks. Thanks 😂

[mild pumice]

Like always the biggest risk in SC are bugs lol.

I think I'd actually prefer to be ganked vs exploding for no reason

[tall karma]

I have been told it works on PTU for commodity trading, and I have made it work on Live.

The key is docking or having your hull c retrieved in a hangar when you buy at the kiosk before calling cargo ATC, then you gotta dock at the destination station, walk to the kiosk in admin and initiate the commodity sale before requesting cargo ATC

All while avoiding impounding with your spindles extended

And the ship cannot be damaged

[vestal ravine]

Auto loading the Retaliator working now? Or a drop down elevator like the Taurus?

[dusty oracle]

What we all thinking stick with freelancer max or upgrade to the CL?!?!

Or wait for freelancer gold pass

[worthy wolf]

Gold pass for all the cargo related ships is likely miles out

If anything happens, I imagine RSI ships will go first since a lot of RSI tech has already reached peak, then they’ll trickle down as the tech is established across any newer ship releases

[proud jasper]

I'd hope that misc isn't too far behind as it's getting a seemingly cargo focused shio

[tall musk]

Hi, new (ish) player here. My rental on an avenger titan that I was using for cargo hauling just ran out, and I'm looking to rent something a bit bigger for solo hauls. Looking at ship prices and cargo sizes, is the freelancer a good choice?

[proud jasper]

Yes. Freelancer is always a good choice for cargo.

[tall musk]

Beauty, thanks

[dusty oracle]

For the same price of a freelancer u can get a cutlass black which imo is a better hauler as fully utilizing the freelancer it’s more tedious trying to get the 12scu into the small forward hold via the door which is barely wide enough

And the black can pull the cargo from either side and back which makes it easier for starting haulers

Even renting is almost same auec value

[tall musk]

Huh, good to know, I'll take a look. Thanks!

[craggy tapir]

Renting is 55k to 62k aUec

Making the cutlass a very good rent ship

[somber bay]

The spirit is also available for rent

I’d say it’s the best of those small haulers

Really good cargo layout

[ocean compass]

if you want to do pure cargo hauling (im talking abt the missions) i think cutlass black better for that price range. if you want to do trading (station trading only), i suggest Hull A, also around that price range for rental + only need to load 4x 16SCU, save a lot of time n effort for the haulers

[ocean compass]

how much the rent

[somber bay]

90k

A bit high

But it’s a great general purpose ship

With really good hauling capability

The hull A is better for pure cargo hauling

But the spirit is really good for multipurpose stuff

[ocean compass]

yeah he's a newbie thats looking at freelancer rental range

i wouldnt suggest 90k rental

unlikely he can make profits easily at that price haha

especially if just cargo hauling

[somber bay]

Imo the c1 spirit is a very significant upgrade to the freelancer for hauling missions

The cargo layout is just so much better

It’s almost as good as the hull a but has the benefits of internal cargo

[humble merlin]

Cargo missions where we haul vehicles when

[tall karma]

Isn't the cutty also cheaper if you rent from a refinery?

Like less than 30k?

[craggy tapir]

Refinery is the 50k price

[craggy tapir]

When we actually need ship carriers
Like the kraken
Its a big cool ship
No big use tho

Perhaps with more systems capital ships get more usage

[humble merlin]

I mean even something like a C1 or a Cutty to transport luxury gravlev

Entry level vehicle delivery

[vagrant solar]

My MAX is making me angry. Really odd interior shape, unused second cargo bay.

[craggy tapir]

My org leader is a FreeMax hater
He wanted to kick somebody cuz he said it was neat

[vagrant solar]

Oh no

What's the interior dimensions of a Taurus?

[craggy tapir]

Wdym?

The width is enough for an ursa

[merry prism]

***BE ADVISED *** All cargo elevators on the ground locations work currently in the ptu at this time. Stations, and cities obviously as well. Also the new event is pays out well, and also in some of the splicer/pirate freelancers that are attacking the target your suppose to protect you will find lots of weevil eggs and drugs. Payout is great on both sides. Cargo hauling is back baby.

[pearl juniper]

I'll remain skeptical until I see them still working in live a week or two after patch. They work in live now, for a while, then people break them somehow. The PTU builds only stay up for a day or so. Might not be enough time for them to break. Hopeful, but I'll believe it when I see it.

[humble merlin]

Things can work perfectly in one stage and then ship to live and everything breaks

[pearl juniper]

Yep, like the issue with hauling missions when 3.24 first went live. People weren't abandoning missions in PTU, so they didn't see the problem till it went live.

[still mauve]

o7 so i did scrap to papayro gateway pick up hepsendites or how its caled to area 18 =profit

made more in few hours yesterday than whole 3.24.1 combine xd

[ocean compass]

grats! also just want to say i think its impressive to see 3x spelling mistakes in 1 sentence 😛

haha

[still mauve]

i sleep only one hour plus english is not my primary language

now that i had 2x strong coffee its good

🙂

+aint morning person

and diamonds from wala ar corp 48 to microtec also good just need to figure out what to haul back

🙂

[ocean compass]

guys

im looking at the cargo boxes for RSI Taurus

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/572706150286622720/1192200141084557462/RDT_20240103_1836108258123394097967423.jpg?ex=6710c827&is=670f76a7&hm=8e80e34cdc2e86749007dc84b470acd7d7681695538757d5526cbd443677fd50&

what does the 2x 2SCU + 2x 1SCU infront mean?

like infront?

[frank warren]

That is for the shielded cargo where the snub would be

You can fit 168scu on the elevator and 6scu in the shielded area

[merry prism]

We already tried breaking them in multiple ways and the lifts still work.

[humble merlin]

That's cool, but it still might break when it ships to LIVE

I am cautiously optimistic

[merry prism]

Fair enough. Lol . By the way we went down to SCD-1 gold on daymar and literally stuck a 32scu in lengthwise sticking out the door when it closed and the elevator still took it down and stored it and were able to recall it several times. We were all blown away at out stupid it looked but it worked. Fair enough though.

[merry prism]

By the way you know when you look up inside the taurus before the elevator goes up after its filled there like an empty channel along the spine of the roof in the direct top of the cargo? You can put another 24 scu along the center of that.

[humble merlin]

You see Taurus right on the left side right XD could have drawn it on that one

[merry prism]

It has to be perfectly placed in the middle if not it will collied with the sides. Test this by having yourself/or other sit in the seat and close/open all doors while someone watches or you use 3rd person camera to ensure the cargo stays in the middle.

[merry prism]

Yes but its all the same to me. You can do it in all of them actually.

[humble merlin]

You can do it more in the taurus because of the extra length

[vast horizon]

Does cargo hauling make good money?

[coarse ember]

Commodities yes when the elevators are working

the actual hauling missions not really unless you grab multiple from one spot and go direct to city or station to station

[spare cloud]

If you don't fill the 3rd layer of containers in Constellations, you can directly slap 2 more 32 SCU containers in

• 2x24 for Taurus. But of risk doing this, but nothing too hard

[proud jasper]

How good do the hauling missions get?

[pearl juniper]

best money in them, in my experience, is in stacking multiple small missions to the same location(s). At experienced rank I have a circle route around some Hurston mining outposts from a distribution center that can make about 275k / hr if I remember right.

but the pay doesn't scale well based on number of SCU hauled in my opinion. For example, a 500scu mission should take into account that you need a 19m credit C2 to reasonably do them and pay accordingly (gotta make the payments on that ship, ya know), and they just don't

[solar bay]

how much do the better hauling missions pay? im at junior rank, so the better ones pay 27k

[pearl juniper]

ahh, it's been a couple weeks since I have done any, but If I remember right, in the 50-60k ish range at experienced

[solar bay]

damn

it worth it?

[pearl juniper]

🤷‍♂️

that's for you to decide. Like I said, stacking a few can be decent pay. Not the best money in the game, but not bad for missions with virtually zero risk

[solar bay]

i mean there is always the risk of accidentally ramming into the back of your hangar with a full load of about 3 missions (i speak frome experience)

[merry prism]

cargo missions were design with the intention to get the new player familiar with the career loop. Then its up to the player to branch out and actually trade using their knowledge and money to make bigger capital on bigger runs.

[tall karma]

Pretty sure they were created to tie into distribution center factions for the larger vision of commodity trading while providing players with a means of earning income via cargo without risking their own capital

[ocean compass]

i wish station trading was more profitable, considering outposts are all fked up right now

i just did Terra > New Babbage TDD heph run on my taurus, 174 SCU of cargo

profit only 50.9k per run

i mean its pretty risk free, besides potential bugs / losing of cargo / random ship blowing up / hangar incidents

but profit margins are low

like 8-9% per run

[tall karma]

You can make over 300k per trip in a Hull C that works well and only costs about 1mil investment... of course that's a really expensive cargo ship.

[ocean compass]

what gives you 30% return?

1m investment with 300k profit

[frank warren]

https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522Hull%2520C%2522,%2522investment%2522:1000000,%2522itemName%2522:%2522Gold%2522,%2522itemQuantityInScu%2522:1,%2522wreckNames%2522:%255B%255D,%2522profitType%2522:%2522pure%2522,%2522allowWaitTimes%2522:true,%2522showDetails%2522:true,%2522itemTypes%2522:%255B%255D,%2522itemTypesType%2522:%2522whitelist%2522,%2522itemNames%2522:%255B%255D,%2522itemNamesType%2522:%2522whitelist%2522,%2522locationTypes%2522:%255B%255D,%2522locationNames%2522:%255B%255D%257D

[ocean compass]

i know. theres nothing that gives a 30% profit

thats what im calling

only gold has a 30% profit margin

we dont do gold trading. outposts not workign

[frank warren]

The first one on the list, at least for me is 419k for the run

Buys for 944,640 and sells for 1,363,968

And it is trading Helium

[silent vapor]

Are there any contracted cargo runs that have boxes over 8scu? I was hoping for that once I hit Member rank but alas. Want to put my freelancer max through its paces but so far just been stacking 4-5 small missions at a time on Everus and only end up using ~65scu of space on average.

[frank warren]

There are, the containers you get are depended on the amount of cargo you are picking up

[ocean compass]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295722526550396959/1296284431237124126/image.png?ex=6711ba74&is=671068f4&hm=3e980b1e105ef4e8a2024a82ca3e1a6b6a1035220c61d4e113930f54a00a869e&

this is what i saw when i decided to do heph from terra to new babbage (closer than orison)

[grand frigate]

What website is that from ?

[coarse ember]

Uexcorp

https://uexcorp.space/

[frank warren]

How long does it normally take for the pinned post about all the ship loadouts to update? I assume a few days or a week or so?

[coarse ember]

I think more likely a week or two,, takes a hot minute to check each loadout and wait and see what current meta is from others

[frank warren]

That is fair

Also, that was the wrong chat and I am now just noticing that I posted in the wrong chat lol

[grim quarry]

I wish they fix the hull c tho

[grand frigate]

Thanks

[crimson mantle]

The hephastenite routes show up in SC Trade Tools too, but not for the Hull-C as there isn't a good sell point that supports the ship 🙂

Here they are for the C2

You can customize with the profit over time vs overall profit, "must have hangars" locations, etc. 😄

And here's the raw data, if you're more into that!

[tall karma]

You mean for missions? We'll have to see. Haven't gotten any feedback from PTU players if they made it up to experienced to see if Hull C worked for missions, but it works for standard commodity trading.

[merry prism]

Gold is working now in the ptu fyi. Fingers crossed.

[tall karma]

Gold trading really helps drive Pirate gameplay too!

Very important!

[solar bay]

dude this linked broke my sc trade tools, no matter what i do now it doesnt work

i cant look up anything

[frank warren]

How lol

Like you close trade tools and reopen it?

It brings me to this page when I click on it

Which is the page I was trying to share

[solar bay]

yeah

i close and reopen

[frank warren]

Weird, there is no reason for that link to cause anything

[solar bay]

this is waht i see when opening it

i cant change ship

i cant reset

i cant submit

[frank warren]

did you click on the home button and then back to the trading routes?

[solar bay]

it doesnt even show up

[solar bay]

yep i did

brings me back to the same page

with the hull c

[frank warren]

Might have to do a restart on your pc. But that is weird it would cause a bug like that

It was just a normal link I copied from my webpage

[solar bay]

yeh ik, im not blaming u dont worry

i was just intrigued

[frank warren]

no its all good

Just weird that it happened

as closing it should of reset everything

[solar bay]

yeh

it didnt for some reason

[crimson mantle]

Super strange.
This is caused by failed network calls to the server.
I'd be curious to see what the developer network tab (F12) shows 🤔

Refreshing the page might help. I'll try to see if the server is having issues.

[solar bay]

alredy tried refreshing, didnt work

[crimson mantle]

CTRL+F5 might help if it's the local cache.
I'll investigate this afternoon.

[summer ruin]

what ship has the most scu capacity that can be rented right now? apart from the caterpillar

[vast horizon]

maybe andromeda

Freight elevators working??

[summer ruin]

can only hold 96 ☠️

[pearl juniper]

There aren't many ships period (rentable or not) between 120scu at the Caterpillar.

[summer ruin]

will other ships be able to be rented or even pledged during citizencon?

[coarse ember]

If there's a freefly then likely that there'll be ships to nab off the rsi site for the duration of freefrly

[ocean compass]

you can rent the taurus 174scu

[tall karma]

Yeah Taurus

[crisp stratus]

Are the freight elevators fixed?

[frank warren]

Not yet, once .2 drops they should be working fully. You might be able to find a working one if you keep server hoping, but most are not working

[mighty vapor]

i just requested some ship components in my freight elevator. is there a way to get this in some boxes? theres a lot of individual pieces

[pearl juniper]

Buy boxes at a cargo center, put them in using the freight elevator terminal

[summer ruin]

are there any red terminals that work?

[pearl juniper]

the ones in stations work fine

Cru L4 and L5

[summer ruin]

i went to both, they dont work

at cru l5 rn

you mean the space station right?

[pearl juniper]

yeah, they don't work how? I used the one at L4 last night

[summer ruin]

yopu mean the "beautiful glen station"?

at cru l5

@pearl juniper

[pearl juniper]

Yes, and whatever the one at L4 is. Shallow Field maybe?

[tall karma]

It's server dependent as the terminals can be broken but probably 50% or more are fine. Try another region

[vestal ravine]

The patch is now released...

[cloud flare]

Feels so weird having working outpost lifts, Ive never experienced this before

[floral copper]

This makes me happy to hear, did you try out multiple outposts?

[ocean compass]

get your gold sir

abuse it now

[floral copper]

Did inventory reset?

As in SCU containers we had at ports?

[solar bay]

Are all salvage yards broken? Im trynna sell some gasping weevil eggs but i remember some time ago somebody told me scrap yard elevators didnt work

[frank warren]

The game just updated. So they should be working

[solar bay]

Bet thanks

[frank warren]

But there is a chance we no longer have cargo

As it was a new update

[solar bay]

Wow what?

Ohh

Right

As in ive lost all the cargo i have

Does that also mean our money gets reset or nah?

Like am i back to 25k??

[frank warren]

I was reading up they wanted to bring cargo from .1 over to .2 but they werent sure if they could do it

[frank warren]

No

[solar bay]

Thank god

[frank warren]

for now

[solar bay]

Well just gotta pray i didnt lose any cargo

[frank warren]

80-90% chance we did

[cloud flare]

Have tried 2 so far, but they're not busy ones. Hoping for the best

[frank warren]

I won't be touching outposts even if I have my cargo still

[floral copper]

That's awesome man, super happy to hear they are working. Hoping they continue to stay fixed.

[frank warren]

Will wait until I get onto a low pop server lol

[floral copper]

Yeah, I mean don't get pirated lol.

[frank warren]

If outposts stay working, then we got pirates back

[floral copper]

I have 100+ SCU of eggs and I am in no rush.

[frank warren]

Same

[frank warren]

Lost all cargo

[floral copper]

Nooooo! Dude I’m sorry that’s terrible. I haven’t had a chance to check yet.

Wonder if everyone lost the cargo

[frank warren]

Most likely. They didnt say in the patch notes we would be keeping it

But there was some talk beore hand that they might try to save cargo nad bring it over. But looks like it didnt happen

[cloud flare]

Yeah I lost all cargo too

[frank warren]

I gave up, can't pull any of my ships out and I am on a server with 14 others. High SFPS and Band In/out

Just gonna wait until tmr, maybe things will work themselves out

[pearl juniper]

Well, it's been 2 hours and the freight elevators at SCD-1 are not working right :/

[frank warren]

lol

Sounds about right

[cloud flare]

shocking!

Cant even buy the ATLS

[frank warren]

Honestly, this might be the causes of the servers shitting themselves with how many players are joining

[cloud flare]

For sure, think I'm going to leave it for tonight and hopefully come back when things have calmed down a bit

[frank warren]

Same

I just wanted to mess with the MFD screens and get used to how things are

Time for some WoW

[pearl juniper]

I managed to get a ship, go to Lorville (took a while and a server hop to get them to give me a hanger), buy an ATLS, and go buy gold at SCD-1, but I can't get it to come up the elevator. The elevators WORK, so that's progress, but it's very intermittent for my gold to show up in the freight manager. If I go to the buy terminal I can see it, so it's there, it just isn't showing in the elevator. And one of the elevators has some boxes sticking through the side...

[tall karma]

Cargo wipes on updates

[frank warren]

Wish we could just auto load the ships

But I guess that would also make it too easy for that kind of stuff

[pearl juniper]

it makes real world sense though that auto loading is only available at major cities and stations. And at small outposts, you're on your own.

[frank warren]

It does

[pearl juniper]

just sucks when the game doesn't let you play the game 🙂

[frank warren]

Yeah

That is my main thing right now lol

[tall karma]

You don't see Amazon drivers loading their own trucks... or heavy haulers...

[frank warren]

About that

For the most part, Amazon drivers do load their own trucks lol

They are given a big cart with packages and they gotta put it into their trucks how they want

[hardy gyro]

I noticed RMC is buyable again

[frank warren]

Wasnt it always?

Just had its price changed

[hardy gyro]

But its 21k+ at some lagrange points mow

[frank warren]

So it wasn't a big profit maker

[hardy gyro]

No

3.24.1 broke it completely, unbuyable

[frank warren]

Oh

[hardy gyro]

And it still was a 2k per SCU worth of profit trade

With it being bought for 21k now i think thats over now though

Leaves gold and heph as the viable runs

[frank warren]

Thought RMC wasn't only buyable at 4 locations

[hardy gyro]

Nope

Pretty much any lagrange point with a PB

[frank warren]

Ohh

Then my site is wrong then

[pearl juniper]

well, I bed logged, and now I can't log back in. Just no button for it on the main menu. Nice

[frank warren]

This is gonna be one fun patch...

[pearl juniper]

yeah, it's pretty rough. Wonder how many hot fixes it will take before it's playable. 3.24.0 was similarly rough. Honestly calling this one a .2 patch probably gives everyone the wrong impression... this is 3.30.0

[frank warren]

Yeah

Im just wondering when they will push hot fixes

[pearl juniper]

there were a few pretty quick after .24 and 24.1 Wouldn't surprise me if it's the same this time.

[ocean compass]

how much is it costing now?

any profit margins?

[frank warren]

They were saying 21k I believe before hand. So more expensive to buy then it is to sell

[ocean compass]

sadge

[tropic peak]

What do i have to do to make the hull c useful now?

[hardy gyro]

Yeah, @ocean compass, theyve officially killed RMC trading in its entirety

As TDDs are buying for like 13k-14k

Honestlg whats the point of making it buyable if it cant be sold anywhere with a profit

[primal plaza]

So now which one is the best for trades ?

[hardy gyro]

That leaves Gold, Beryl, and Heph

Idk how much their prices have changed yet though

[vague wharf]

BRIOS elevators STILL broken

3 patches later, where ya at CIG?!

im done spending a penny until this shits fixed, regretting the purchase of the ship i made just a few hours ago... geezx

[ocean compass]

i managed to buy 53 SCU of gold from SCD01 in my server

sold them all

$$

first gold trade done ever

[fair cloak]

Anyone tried the Hull C in the Live today?

[weak tinsel]

Small outpost cargo elevators got fixed or we still unable to use them ?

[summer ruin]

are weevil eggs sellable now or still not working?

[frank warren]

Some people have got the elevators to work while others are having issues with them

[summer ruin]

where do you sell weevil eggs

[frank warren]

Salvage yards

[summer ruin]

how do i find them

[summer ruin]

oh thank you

[frank warren]

No problem

Careful of priates tho

[summer ruin]

will do

07

[frank warren]

o7

o/

[ocean compass]

working now. traded gold entire afternoon

[bold sinew]

does looting stuff to sell count as trading?

[frank warren]

It would be trading

Especially if its to players

[craggy tapir]

Okay

How do I use the new tractor beam

(Multitool)

[solar bay]

Did we end up losing all our cargo?

[frank warren]

If I remember correctly, left click to move yourself around in zero g and right click to pick up stuff

[frank warren]

Yes

[bold sinew]

Yay! then i've found a new home

[craggy tapir]

It says no module

[solar bay]

:(

[bold sinew]

did you put the tractor beam attachment into your mutlitool? :o

[solar bay]

Back to being poor then

[frank warren]

Cargo is always wiped on new patch. There was a small chance it wasnt gonna happen this time around, but it did

[bold sinew]

i'm a bit worried about my profession though...
i went to zephyr, finn's folly, and picker's field last night and didn't find any loot

like.... not even a chemlight D:

[frank warren]

Could be bugged

[bold sinew]

my friends told me that the random loot boxes were seriously toned down :<

[elfin rune]

!fit

[jolly dagger]

Can it fit?

Credit to RubenSaurus

[limpid sluice]

Haven't had a chance to get in game yet, but I assume stored commodities got wiped with the patch?

[frank warren]

It did

[limpid sluice]

RIP all those eggs we never got to sell.

[frank cliff]

I saw that coming from a mile away

[limpid sluice]

I mean yeah, they got wiped last patch, but i can dream, right?

[coarse ember]

Gotta buy the truhold tractor beam attachment, you can get em pretty much anywhere there's a multi tool

[craggy tapir]

Had to relog

Multi tool didnt work at all

Now left click is traversal and right click tractor beam

[gritty prawn]

question did they finaly fix elevators at scrapyards?

[limpid sluice]

According to #bug-hunt-chat message they have not

[gritty prawn]

ok

thx

[pearl juniper]

so not surprised

[livid briar]

Is it a hot take to say that C1 is better and easier to use than Zeus??? I can't even use a ATLS with Zeus ... and 8SCU make it more like 96 SCU ..

idk if I am just on a jacked server, but the Zeus does not polished in terms of cargo grid, door spacing, and ATLS compatibility .. Beam position is kinda nice but the rest makes me miss the C1 loaner

[mild pumice]

ATLS is garbage full stop

It's like trying to put in a screw with a hammer

[vast horizon]

Does the caterpilars tractorbeam reach the front and how easily can you transfer the cargo with it?

[worthy herald]

does the outposts/ground bases fixed now for cargo in .2?

nvm just read the messages above, guess elevators still broken

[tropic peak]

Is there a way to auto load the hull c?

[mild pumice]

There's only 1 loading method for the Hull C (ATC Cargo)

[tropic peak]

That seems to not be working.. so i thought they changed it

[mild pumice]

It's always been flaky

[tropic peak]

So how do i buy mass cargo with hull c now its seems i cant buy a full load anymore

[mild pumice]

Probably that's supply/demand issue

[hallow hearth]

I find the C1 a far more enjoyable daily and cargo runner. Will be getting rid of my Zeus asap, likely for a Starlancer

C1s tractor is also easier to use in my opinion than the CL

[hallow hearth]

It's completely absurd this is still a problem

[native flame]

does anyone know if Planetary Cargo elevators have been fixed? or if Brios has ben fixed?

[livid briar]

I agree. The opening is not ideal, the third layer (height) is essentially useless .. the ATLS doesn't work with it at all, and there is so much room on the sides .. you can only get 96 SCU in there if you use the grid

[hallow hearth]

C1s also better looking, no idea what everyone's smoking 😁

[livid briar]

Only advantage is the ladder second entrance and docking collar

[stiff nest]

From what I've heard they were reset, but bug was not fixed. In a few weeks all the outpost elevators will likely be broken again

[visual quail]

!tradetools

[jolly dagger]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[jagged wing]

How do I get this stupid drag mouse crap to go away when using a tractor beam? I want direct mouse inputs, not some relative mouse junk. Almost impossible to stack boxes accurately.

The FPS mouse rotation toggle in the options isn't working.

[frank warren]

If you are talking about ship tractor beams, it used to be Q in .1

Q or E, but I believe it was Q

[uneven sun]

How's trading these days? Haven't played since Jan this year

[crimson mantle]

The new patch has some issues with the outposts elevators and autoloading... so it's rough 😅

[uneven sun]

Less than ideal, looks like my hiatus continues 😂 I saw 4.0 in evocati the other day (unless I dreamt that), should be fun when that releases 😂

[ocean compass]

Autoloading has since stopped working since this patch

Outpost elevators are mostly working tho in exchange

Gold trading is back. Piracy js back

[pearl juniper]

not in my experience. Did the hotfix fix them?

[ocean compass]

i have been running gold entire day

since new patch

not a single problem

made a few millions now

[pearl juniper]

I'll have to go see if I can get mine. I bought a load a couple nights ago before the hot fix (after .2), and while the elevators appeared to be working, when I sent it down my cargo never showed up in the RH side. Checked again in the buy terminal and it was listed there though. Tried the next day and the elevator was completely non responsive (although not stuck on "transferring to warehouse" like they used to be).

[frank warren]

Could of been the server health too. As I have noticed they are pretty bad depending on which one you get into

[proper quarry]

I heard gold trades are good, anywhere I can read up on this to learn more?

[ocean compass]

its just trading? from outpost?

you want a step by step guide or something

[proper quarry]

I know where to get it, but not how to load it to the ship or wjere to send it

[ocean compass]

https://uexcorp.space/trade/routes/?id_vehicle=49

use this see routes, where to buy, where to sell

[proper quarry]

Oo thank you, should be very helpful

[ocean compass]

loading cargo into ship you will need a tractor beam, pyro utility tool with tractor attachment, or a maxlift

i usually run a maxlift

but cost 19k each

[proper quarry]

I have trac beam but when I tried to buy it never gave option to

[ocean compass]

how to load ship, buy the commodity in the storage buildings on the sites SCD01 or SM18

run out to freight elevator, call it up

then use tractor load onto your ship

[ocean compass]

? you mean you have pyro utility tool but no tractor beam function? go to cargo center look for attachment & tractor attachment

[proper quarry]

This might have been a bug so im gonna go check it out again.

[ocean compass]

after load to ship. fly to sell destination, call hangar, enter it, send cargo down via the freight elevator, run to TDD to sell

done

[slate spruce]

When purchasing the cargo, mind the measurements of your cargo grid when selecting the container sizes. So you don't buy stuff that actually can't fit into your ship.

[ocean compass]

words can only convey so much, i suggest youtube videos or find an actual guide, or shadow someone trading

yes dont buy a 24scu container when your ship has 8scu of cargo space

[proper quarry]

I have 66

[ocean compass]

i dont suggest cargo trading unless you have a lot of extra aUEC to risk

fyi

dont trade what you cant afford to lose

server unstability is a thing

[proper quarry]

Thats true. Im half tempted to just stick to haulage

Mainly because its easy for me

[ocean compass]

last time i would have suggested newbies to do safe trades using the station to station/tdd trading

but now autoloading is broken

i wouldnt recommend trading as a gameplay loop for new players

chances are they will lose everything

[slate spruce]

If you want to do a test run to learn the ropes, don't start with gold, but try beryl or meds instead. Profit is ~1/4 compared to gold, but with much better chances to avoid bugs and pirates.

[shy coral]

simply manual load

[pliant matrix]

any tips so boxes don't block the view with ATLS? it's making life pretty difficult to store things properly

Also does it also happens to you when you load with ATLS and put a box on a grid you can't remove it with ATLS? . I have to switch to multitool to unlock it from grid

[minor moon]

Right, I just got back into SC, and wondering how the Hauling missions work. I accepted the trial mission thingy, got the freight onto the elevator, but now I need to find the tractor beam attachemnt for the multi-tool. Is there a way to automatically load them or do I need to do it manually?

[pearl juniper]

hauling missions must be manuall loaded / unloaded (unless you are using a Hull C, if I'm not mistaken).

[minor moon]

OK

How much cargo can I get with these hauling missions?

And ofc the station I'm at doesn't sell the tractor beam attachement

[slate spruce]

The starter ones begin with 4-6, then expect small ones ~10, medium ~100 as well as huge ~2k ones. It's usually money-wise better to stack several small ones with same origins/destinations.

[minor moon]

But I have to manually load them with the tractor beam, each individual box?

[slate spruce]

Yes

[minor moon]

wow

2k SCU one SCU at a time...

[slate spruce]

Each mission says what the maximum box size is, and the load is then packed with as much as possible biggest ones, and the rest to fit. So if you have 100 scu mission with 8 max, you'll get 12x8 + 1x4 scu boxes

No worries, the 2k aren't packed in 1scu containers 😀

[minor moon]

Ok

What's the max size of a box and what can the handheld multi-tool beam carry?

I have a C1 btw

[slate spruce]

Max box size is 32, but in lower level missions you won't get past 8. The multitool can hold 16 on a short distance, slow and cumbersome. C1 can carry 2x32 (plus a third 32 off grid), that should suffice you to grind through rookie and junior levels fast.

[minor moon]

So how could I load a 32 then?

[slate spruce]

C1 also has its own tractor, much more powerful. Good for yeeting the boxes on longer distances (and then use the multitool for fine work)

[vast mortar]

maxlift tractor beam, from the cargo centre at a station

[minor moon]

Cheers

[vast mortar]

The C1's beam will also work if you don't mind getting in and out of seats

[minor moon]

I didn't see that one in the station I was at

[vast mortar]

All the planetary stations will, but the one's at the legrange points don't

[slate spruce]

Multitool with attachment costs ~700, maxlift 19k. You can only get maxlift at the cargo deck at one of the big spaceports above planets (edit: gateways too)

[minor moon]

Port Tressler didn't

[slate spruce]

A good place to run hauling missions is microTech or Hurston, since they have distribution centres. Outpost elevators are often bugged, while DC elevators work ok, you can request landing inside protected hangar there, and the missions are better aligned to/from same DC.

Afaik it's listed as personal weapon

[minor moon]

Cool

Also, is there a list of ships that can dck to stations rather than land in hangars or pads?

[slate spruce]

It's only the biggest ones I think, Hammerhead and 890

[tropic peak]

How to buy shit with the hull c?

[tall karma]

#industrial-professions message

Highly recommend waiting until stable servers are realized as right now it would be a massive gamble to use the Hull C

[brisk heart]

If I die with loot/cargo from a transport/retrival mission am I charged the value of the item?

[tall karma]

No but if the mission fails because your ship and cargo explode you lose massive amounts of rep

[brisk heart]

Oh that’s not that bad

What ship would you recommend doing cargo runs in? Also is there a way people can pull you out of hyper space? Or would they have to wait at expected destinations for delivery

[mild pumice]

Did they only scrap the rep loss for abandon then and not fail too?

[ornate fiber]

is the carrack useless for hauling? how do you access the cargo holds?

[tropic peak]

no easy access

[tall karma]

Useless

[craggy tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[craggy tapir]

1st
What's the expected hauling scu count
Like 50 or more like a 100

2nd
There are multiple ships capable of snatching you out of quantum and/or disabling quantum

[glass sinew]

any tips for hauling inna freelancer max

[craggy tapir]

The free max has good cargo but people kill just cuz they saw a freemax

[vestal ravine]

The one option I can clue you in on if you're paranoid about the quantum traps is to perform the dog leg manuver. Here's the basic idea: Say you are QT from MT to Crusader. About 90% of the way to Crusader drop out of QT travel. Re-align to a station or Gateway "above" Crusader. Travel to that new spot for say 10-15 seconds. Re-align back to Crusader and finish your jump. Since the Mantis has a range of some 20KM this tactic will make you arrive away from the pirate's path. However getting trapped is a rare occurance anyway so its up to you.

[craggy tapir]

The freemax is a hated ship from I've seen

[vestal ravine]

I still have one and use it occasionally but it's good for ROC mining. The rear turret is right there if there's trouble coming.

[brisk heart]

Thanks, I’m trying to see how much I can use experience from ED to play better here lol

[brisk heart]

If you have bigger ships with bigger loads, do the missions change to reflect the ship you’re in?

[leaden monolith]

No they don't. The hauling missions have a lot of variety in the amount of cargo you will have to haul, ranging from a few SCU up to hundreds and thousands if you're brave enough to try them with a HULL C. Box sizes go up as you climb the rep ladder. It's really up to you to pick and choose which missions you want to accept.

[crisp bobcat]

I point it in-between the two spots and use free look to look left and right.

[outer meadow]

I need some help
The freight elevator interfaces keep showing "transfering to warehouse" and loading but it doesn't seem to stop, anything I can do?

[near swallow]

Find the related IC and contribute to it, and then hope that eventually they manage to fix it.

[outer meadow]

Si im guess it's not just me thrn

[near swallow]

It's been an issue for a while now, and I think they've tried some fixes for it, but may not have fixed every cause.

[gleaming steeple]

Does anyone know if the Argo CSV fits in a freelancer? 🤔

The release for it has it in a cutlass (I think) but anyone know about the freelancer?

[mild pumice]

It'll fit if a cyclone fits

It goes in the C1 fine which I think has less width clearance

[gleaming steeple]

Cyclone only fits in the max

Good do know!

Thanks

[proud jasper]

Which is better for cargo hauling

Lots of access to the cargo grid or very deep cargo stores

[mild pumice]

Honestly it depends how you prefer to use the space but extra off grid space like the Corsair has for example can be advantageous over a ship like the Freelancer Max when you have a lot of 8scu boxes

[inner summit]

wanted to see if I can do a cargo mission with the csv only, is this possible? What missions/locations should I look for?

not worried about doing multiple runs for one mission -

[limpid sluice]

the csv... as in the new ground vehicle?

[inner summit]

yup

[limpid sluice]

I dont think Ive seen or heard of any ground to ground missions on the same planetary body, and it would be a nightmare to navigate, unless i missed any navigation improvements in ground vehicle operation this patch

[leaden monolith]

I would steer clear of any planetary pick ups/drop offs unless it's from a Distribution Centre or the major city. Most if not all outpost freight elevators are still bugged. Do missions at your current rep level as they give more xp. All missions at a particular rep level give the same xp.

[cerulean lichen]

Thoughts on the Stralancer max being an upgrade from the Taurus?

More cargo space, but loss of a tractor beam on the ship makes it interesting

[tall karma]

As long as you don't wanna do solo combat then sure!

Taurus can be a pain to load even with the tractor turret

[fluid sentinel]

what would be the biggest ship a solo player can manage for hauling?

[silk swallow]

Mid Size Ships and lower

[silk swallow]

And with this new Ship it will be the Starlancer MAx

[fluid sentinel]

yea I might have a partnet sometime I was just worried if that would be too much for one person to manage

[silk swallow]

Free lancerMAx is a 1-4 person ship

So you can Solo

Medium class

[cerulean lichen]

As long as one doesn’t get into combat with it I think starlancer max will be fine😅
It’s just a question of how often will things break an engineer needs to fix while in flight.

[silk swallow]

Not as often

but maybe every few hours might need to check on your componets

[cerulean lichen]

Not bad! I can’t wait to check it out at IAE

I wish we didn’t have to wait for IAE

[brisk heart]

I need to pick up a package 500km away from the closet travel point, can you travel to places directly or do I just gotta thug it out

[cerulean lichen]

See if there is an Orbital marker between you and it. You can try dropping out of quantum partially through it to try and get closer

[tall karma]

Like a hull c is fine solo

[brisk heart]

What’s the button to drop out of quantum?

[cerulean lichen]

B. Same one you use to spool it up. Just hold it to drop.
An important thing to remember is you can do this between orbital markers, but if you do this on ground locations it will fly you all the way there and cans drop out

Takes some time to get the timing right be warned😅

[vestal ravine]

You might also have to temporarily untrack the mission to see other q markers. Fyi

[hardy gyro]

You can power off your ship to force yourself out though

[cerulean lichen]

Huh, did not think about that

[frank warren]

You can also just hold Left Mouse Button. The same button you click to go into QT, you can hold to stop QT

[cerulean lichen]

How dumb would it be to melt my Taurus and buy a CL? Like more I fly my ES the more I consider it.

[coarse ember]

if you dont need the extra 46scu of grid storage from taurus, doesnt seem too bad

[cerulean lichen]

IAE I’m either going do downgrade the Taurus to a CL, upgrade to a starlancer max, or do nothing. The Zeus is like the perfect sized ship for me but the more cargo space the better

[drifting cave]

Hey gamers. What ship do you recommend to do hauling with an ATLS?

[coarse ember]

c2 works fine last i tried, caterpillar you can get em up there but cant really see where the boxes are going lol

[golden fern]

C2 used to work fine. This patch the ship sits too low so whenever you open the ramps the ship will start bouncing from side to side

[neon dome]

Are the cargo elevators at surface outposts still as broken as last patch or are there occasionally working ones now?

[cloud robin]

They should be working just fine now

[cloud robin]

Definetly C2

[wide trout]

You can drop out of orbital quantum by just turning all power off and it will drop you out just takes a second to boot back up

[cloud robin]

You don't need to to allat, you can just switch to SCM mode, unless you're in the deacceleration phase

Else, just use LMB

[ocean compass]

they are mostly working now

[craggy tapir]

But currently the game servers are bad/broken

[leaden reef]

Really

[cloud robin]

yes

[sick ether]

What trading center do people usually buy illicit cargo from? Preferably one with no armistice

[mild pumice]

It's a trap!

[valid lintel]

You don’t, you either steal it or grab it out the back of ships after they have been soft deathed when doing high level bounties

You can also buy RMC (illegally) at pickers field on Hurston and sell it off at a TDD (or admin I can’t remember)

[sick ether]

So thats probably a good place to hide and nab the ships of people who don't secure their ships

[coarse ember]

Yeah except buying RMC costs more than it's worth to sell so may be wait a long time lol

[cloud robin]

People like to sell at Brio's

Usually drugs like sex eggs

[sick ether]

I'm looking for a buy

Physicalized cargo means people will be there unloading

[cloud robin]

Are you trying to run cargo or pirate?

[sick ether]

If they're buying, they'd leave the ship. I stow away on it until they take off and quant, then I hijack

pirate

[cloud robin]

If you want to Pirate, Brio's is probably the best in my opinion

People go there all the time to sell drugs from Vaughn missions, especially now that they work again

[sick ether]

Can't pull funny shit tho

[cloud robin]

Wait until they land, kill them and steal their ship

[sick ether]

Fair, guess its just best to take a sniper and take out white suits

[cloud robin]

For Brio's I'd reccomend more of a desert camo approach

As it's on Daymar

[sick ether]

"White suits" as in people who aren't armoring and gearing up

[cloud robin]

Oh right

[sick ether]

Just taking default white suits and helmets

[cloud robin]

People will most likely run armored at Brio's tho as they know it's a bit risky

[sick ether]

I still remember like 2 years ago when in a bounty operation I learned that you can camouflage on Microtech by laying in the snow, because you eventually get covered in it and blend in

[cloud robin]

Oh yeah

[coarse ember]

Yep, mt and it's moons are nice for that

[cloud robin]

Lmao all my friends servers are full, except one that is on 99/100

[coarse ember]

Would like to see something similar on daymar where the longer you lay in one spot the more sand slowly builds around you

[cloud robin]

For camping at Brio's I'd buy some Defiance Desert at Grim HEX

[sick ether]

First I wanna set up my caterpillar base, but then I'll start doing that

[cloud robin]

Caterpillar base?

[coarse ember]

Probably food ammo and armour

[sick ether]

I'm gonna try set up a caterpillar as a sort of mobile home base

[cloud robin]

ah

[sick ether]

food, armor, weapons, etc

[cloud robin]

Don't forget the couch

[sick ether]

I have bought a couch, some chairs and a table

[cloud robin]

nice

[sick ether]

First pod is gonna be a living/meeting space, second probably food

Rest is cargo and scavenge

[cloud robin]

Just place tens of bottles of Cruz on some tables lmao

There's your food storage

[sick ether]

so how do cargo elevators work

Is there a terminal or something?

[coarse ember]

They order from a terminal > walk to elevator and call it up > it comes up and they start unloading into their ship

[sick ether]

oh found it

Best part is I actually own a caterpillar pirate so this is gonna be neat

[cloud robin]

nice one

[pearl juniper]

Right, so if you see a caterpillar in the vicinity of brio's, blow it up and leave...

[cloud robin]

[sick ether]

Not gonna take the caterpillar

If I'm gonna steal a ship why would I take something so large

[cloud robin]

You do actually get a bit camoflagued from running around on Daymar

[coarse ember]

Oh nice so the sand clings, I was imagining something more along the lines of a sand dune or going to a beach and seeing some kids bury their friend in the sand

[cerulean lichen]

So how are you guys using the new Argo ground vehicle? I’m just using it to cart around stuff in the hanger to my ship

[coarse ember]

Was gonna nab one but realized I was gonna need to melt alot of stuff lol, most of my hangar is small 15-3 USD buys for paints and armour lol

[sonic fiber]

I don't suppose they've improved trading yet? Like any reason to move max inventory junk like waste? I've not played in months.

[coarse ember]

Nah and trading is in kinda a tough spot rn with most outpost elevators breaking often

[cerulean lichen]

Trading itself is in a rough spot. But hauling cargo from point to point can be fun. But it’s more being a truck driver for a company than a real trader buying low and hoping to sell high.

[sonic fiber]

I'm hoping for an eventual loop. Pick up ore at mining site, move it to station, pick up waste, bring it back to mining site etc

Or pick up refined ore, move it to factory, factory to planet, waste back to moon for recycling

[cerulean lichen]

It somewhat exists. You just have to look through the hauling missions to find a good path. Don’t know if pay gets better though. I’m on rookie and contracts average between 18k and 22k a mission

[sonic fiber]

Ok I popped back in the other day just to test but didn't do much. Forgot to bring a tractor beam 🙂

[pearl juniper]

It gets better. 50-60k per mission at experienced rank. And there are some areas where you can stack 3-4 missions at a time to the same locations.

[cerulean lichen]

That’s good! Guess I have a ways to go grinding through the reputation needed

[sonic fiber]

I'm just more looking for logical stuff, dynamic proces based on who is doing what. I had enough of farming same thing over and over

[pearl juniper]

Yeah. At any rank the money (and quickest rep gain) is in stacking missions though. I like the local missions around distribution centers.

[sonic fiber]

Rmc for a while there

Bought all the ships I wanted

Though oddly my cargo ships dissapeared in a patch

[ocean compass]

took a while, traded 576scu of gold tonight

[sonic fiber]

i had a MAX

[ocean compass]

much money was made

[sonic fiber]

hmm, my Connie is gone too, though i still have my reclaimer

[cerulean lichen]

Could put a ticket into support and see what happened. My roc I bought with in game currency is still in my hanger so doubt they wiped in game bought ships

[sonic fiber]

ah, i just figured they did a wipe in the last 6 months

but some are there, some arent

[ocean compass]

theres a bug for this 3.24.2 patch

[sonic fiber]

everything i have was in game,

[ocean compass]

smoe people lost ships, others gained ship

i know someone who got a free F8C

he didnt buy it in pledge store, didnt rented it, he just had a golden ticket in inventory

he found a F8C inside his hangar after 3.24.2 came out

[sonic fiber]

SNAFU then

[ocean compass]

i have personally gained a free Hull A

[sonic fiber]

nice. i have 2 prospectors

[ocean compass]

i know of a guy finding 7x taurus in his list

[sonic fiber]

i think i bought one, it dissaperead, so i bought another, then it returned

[ocean compass]

so he distributed the taurus across the systems on every city station

[sonic fiber]

i wish i could sell or trash this 2nd prospector. hope they add that some day

[vocal swan]

I've been interested in the Hull A as a hop up from my Nomad.

I can carry more in my Starfarer of course, but I like the idea of the regular cargo sizes of the A (and B whenever that comes out.)

[sonic fiber]

i like the MAX for cost

more capacity per credit

plus guns

its closest to the Firefly ship in spirit i think

[cloud robin]

They did show ship selling at CitCon

But sadly only for crafted ships

[sonic fiber]

well this will be wiped eventually, but i imagine they will add trading ships at some point

similar to EVE

[vocal swan]

Which MAX though?

[sonic fiber]

Freelance MAX

unless they changed the price. 120cu for about 2mil

hmm, maybe they did, one site says 4mil now

[empty crystal]

That would be by far best update more trading between players

[sonic fiber]

I dont mind so much their concept about NPC filling in for players that they discussed, but by now they need to do something. right now its just find the most profitable thing and farm it, with no dynamism or purpose

idealy you need a refinery to need someone to deliver it resourcesa and remove finished product and waste

or it stops working

then simply as inventory fills up, price goes down to buy it. as it empties, price goes up to buy it. simple

i guess the hauling contract sorta is like that

[plucky bolt]

are cargo elevators on moons fixed? last time I played I lost 2mil because they wouldn't go down

[cloud robin]

They should yes

[upper perch]

is it worth doing trading rn when the server can crash at any time

[slate spruce]

no

there are issues with persistence of your actions, so the cargo might not be saved, but the reduced account balance might be

[upper perch]

thats unfortunate

[sonic fiber]

Or just do low cost for testing. Don't try to make max money

[tropic peak]

How much did you make total?

[jovial cliff]

its still broken

just lost similar amount since elevator and Shubin posts are all dead

[worthy herald]

got a silly question, does the ATLS fit in the zeus?

[digital echo]

yes

[upper perch]

Is slam still a buyable thing

[digital echo]

no