industrial-professions

[humble merlin]

But I found a working one

7 between Asia, US, Aus

First EU one I got worked

This one works for me

[sharp swift]

I consider us trauma-bonded

And since you're so flattered, you can take the honor of trying out cargo loading once the patch hits to see if it really works 😉

[mild violet]

Yeah on EU servers I didn't have any problems

Is it worth it to rent Hull A for 1 day, to do more cargo missions? my largest SCU ship is DUR and freelancer has problems with the middle part (cant really get anything there)

[mild pumice]

I used the Hull A a lot for multi drop local jobs

I wish there were more jobs <8scu for the starters

Just started a game with my alt in a Titan

[mild violet]

yeah I read some post on Reddit and it was spot on

about how they should in future rework it into multiple trees

as in - its still working for covalex

But instead of just "junior / member" etc... which only increase the size right now

it should be
Delivery (1-9)
Small cargo (10-50
Medium (50 - 300?)
Big ( 300 - 1000?)
Freight (1000 SCU +

(SCU are given as an example, not what he said)

but you would level up in each of the categories separately

so if you have only smaller ships, you can just do deliveries with small but valuable cargo

as you gain rank, you get trusted with very fragile stuff or something

whereas with the bigger categories, its more about bulk freight,

so hull C delivers 4000 of agricultural supplies, waste, scrap etc

but 315p delivers 8 SCU of some very valuable / dangerous / whatever material

or idk, hull C delivers 4000 SCU, composed of everything from waste, stims, vices, gold, iron... to a station - and from the station the smaller cargo ships deliver it to outposts etc.

similar how in reality the huge trucks deliver big boxes of everything to depo, where the boxes are cut open and sorted, then given to smaller cargo vans and they deliver those to places

idk how to call it in english, but the vans usually either deliver to your home adress, or "spots" where you can pick it up

so something similar would make sense in game too

also time limited missions - if you just want 100 SCU of iron delivered, it doesnt matter that its loaded on hull C and takes a long time to load, unload

but if you have something expensive / dangerous / whatever, you want it fast, so its better to contract a small cargo hauler, who loads it in 2 minutes and is able to be there much faster

sorry for my long ass "worse rewriting" of a reddit post

[deep bison]

Small 1-20, Medium 20-100, large 100 - 400, Very Large 400+

delivery is moving stuff around that you can pick up by hand

[mild violet]

yeah I know, again, I was trying to say what the post said

he had different names of the categories a bit

i will just post the post lol

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1eo7m5w/the_new_hauling_missions_are_a_ton_of_fun_but/

but be aware its even longer than my "paraphrasing"

ah yeah I botched it

he said
that within the ranges (small, medium, large) there would be their own each "small, medium" large" missions

so for example "small cargo transport"
1-30 SCU

would have small missions (1-6), medium (7-18) and large (19-30)

(again just examples)

but it makes a ton of sense to me

because right now I have 100 missions available, but 90 % of them arent interesting / available to me realistically

I cant haul any medium missions, dont want planetary missions, I want solar small cargo missions 😄 direct or indirect

Also - I want to find missions that start from my current location for example, its not fun to scroll 100 missions having to look for size, start location etc

[deep bison]

This is just my opinion, but I personally don't agree with the conceptual link between "higher Reputation .Rank = Bigger SCUs" At least not exclusively.

Like... I don't need you to prove to me that you are a 20 year Trading Veteran for me to give you 400SCU of Raw Iron to take somewhere. But If I have 20SCU of medical supplies that I need to have delivered to a hopsital in 24 hours. I don't want to trust that to the Rookie who is qualified to move "20 SCU" of cargo.

[halcyon knot]

I just read the hot fix notes, does this mean the Hull C is fixed and we can finally use her for doing the new hauling missions?!!!

[tall karma]

Attempt at your own risk.

[halcyon knot]

My thoughts exactly 🤣

[river helm]

did the hotfix fix the scrapyard elevators?

[limpid sluice]

I hope urgent timed contracts are something they can expand on later, but it doesn't make much sense until more of the bugs are sorted out. Needing a large amount of cargo moved in a short enough time that someone would need a crew in order to do it, and of course pay should reflect that

[deep bison]

I mean. sure if it's a large amount. but what if you just need like 8scu of medical supplies stat. You could get that done in like... 30 different ships. The point is that it should pay better because they need it and need someone they trust right?

[lime vessel]

It should be

[mild violet]

yup exactly

progress in larger cargo category = more SCU, more "valubale" (moving 500 SCU of tin instead of scrap) 😄
progress in small cargo category = more valuable, less time, fragile / chemical hazard etc

[mild pumice]

We should ask the mission designers to spend a day playing ATS (American Truck Simulator) lol get a few good ideas

[mild violet]

ETS2 better 🤓

But yeah lol

Witcher 3 too

Not for cargo but for other stuff

[visual night]

On the commodities side of things. What if data running ships had a dashboard button to Download Trade Info. And the game outputs a JSON file to disk with prices for the location.

Gives some extra utility for those ships, and API-like access within the constraints of the game. Also adds a side loop for contract haulers

[mild violet]

yeah I was thinking about that 😄 ... how now you have to use external tools for the commodity prices

but in the future, you could have those ingame - but it needs to be updated, so data runners get missions to deliver these informations

but again, it would be "Cross system" - to know what prices are in another system - as in same system, they would just broadcast the prices and everyone would have it faster than with data running ship?

[visual night]

Right. Work with the external sources for now with some limited output, later on flesh out the full game system, contracts, etc

[visual night]

There are price alerts that exist in the game, limited by your location. I think the components are there to limit the output locations by current planet (and moons). If that's too OP, they'd make it a smaller limit (single planet/moon, single outpost)

[mild violet]

yeah but realistically the TDD would want these informations as public as possible

same with stock exchange today

so I would think you would have something like "SC trade tools" implemented in game - being able to find prices of different things, for buying / selling

except for illegal stuff

[visual night]

I don't know why it is that way now, maybe information traveling that far is impossible without using quantum

So the planets have a really long lag time, or you get the information by jumping there

[mild violet]

who knows. Realistically information travels at speed of light, so information should get through stanton in 40 minutes max

ah no i forgot its not 150 mil km / AU

so 4 minutes

[visual night]

Asteroids? Yeah I don't know

[mild violet]

yeah, who knows 😄

pirate jammers

[visual night]

I'm just thinking, keep it as close as possible to what exists. The work is a new button on a couple ships, write a file to disk.

Or, just always write those alerts to disk

[mild violet]

trying to disrupt trade 😄 could be lore explanation

[visual night]

Network outages are already common

[mild violet]

yeah i guess

well I love herald, so I am interested to see what they implement as missions for it

[quartz summit]

what ship can handle 2500 SCU ? except the Hull C

[digital echo]

nothing, especially nothing in game rn.

If you're doing a hauling mission, do multiple trips in a cat or C2 to finish those. No other way, since Hull C does not work atm.

[quartz summit]

I would need 4 to 5 trip with 2500 SCU if not more

[mild violet]

or just dont accept those

[quartz summit]

then I need a ship for 282 SCU

C2, cat, what else ?

any smaller ?

[digital echo]

Starfarer.

That's the only ship in that middle ground rn.

[mild violet]

hull B

[quartz summit]

does someone knows for how many you can rent the caterpillar per day ?

I guess it's more that 150k / day

[mild violet]

!rentals

(idk i am just trying)

it looks like nope

but idk how "up to date" this page is

https://scfocus.org/ship-sale-rental-locations-history/

[quartz summit]

caterpillar is 199k per day ☠️

[outer ridge]

can easily make that with a few higher tier hauls! low tier not so much tho

[quartz summit]

I would need 4 contracts at 58k each to get my 200k back and actually start making money of that rent

[quartz summit]

I have contracts that pays up to 80k but ... 2800 SCU ...

I'm at experienced

the one at 58k is fairly easy and fast to do, only 282 SCU

[mild violet]

i have contracts that pay up to 30k for 100 cargo lmao

but I have like 30 SCU capacity

[pearl juniper]

they money in hauling is in stacking multiple small jobs to the same destinations. Distribution centers around Hurston work well.

you can do 3-4 missions at once that pay 40k each

or more pay at higher levels. Around 40k each at Member rank

Member rank seems to be the sweet spot for that strategy though, I'm at Experienced now, and there seem to be fewer of those missions available

[sharp gull]

I just want to play with the Hull-C and it not be broken

[digital echo]

You can rent a lot of different ships, like the Connie Taurus, for less than the Cat, if you want to do hauling missions.

[mild violet]

loading that wont be fun tho

[digital echo]

How so? It's a flat, straight elevator. It's one of the easiest ships to load.

[limpid sluice]

And it has a pretty decently placed tractor turret

[mild violet]

ah, i meant manually loading

idk how to use tractor turret 😄

[limpid sluice]

Get it turret
Power on turret
Click boxes

[mild violet]

from how big distance?

with freelancer i usually parked right next to the elevator

so it was ezpz

[limpid sluice]

Alt + scroll changes distance
Hold R to rotate with mouse

[mild violet]

i meant what range does the turret have

handheld tractor beam has 20 meters

[limpid sluice]

Ship has a lot more

[mild violet]

okay good

i might try it on the weekend

[limpid sluice]

And handles better

Only downside is HUD clutter with a lot of boxes currently, and sometimes harder to see what you're doing with smaller boxes

HUD clutter:

[cobalt copper]

s1 vehicle tractor is 150m

[limpid sluice]

Looks like S2 is 150m as well

[mild violet]

okay okay

thats nice 😄

I was wondering how people load the big ships lol

[sand fjord]

Why on literally every server I join are the sm0-18 elevators broken

[limpid sluice]

Because we can't have nice things

[digital echo]

And now, ATLS.

[wheat moss]

Only default is that the back of the cargo bay doesn't have light so it can be hard to see if you are on the last part of the grid or not

[cerulean lichen]

I’m so happy hauling missions exist now. It’s like trading but without the risks😅

Only have rookie missions unlocked so far but curious how big the rewards will go as I rank up

[mild violet]

ye

i am at junior and its fun

[potent eagle]

Hi everyone

[burnt storm]

did you have a question?

[potent eagle]

I have a C1 Spirit, my goal would be to get a MOLE for 8~M aUEC. I currently have a C1, a Cutlass Black and some ROCs. I'm doing ROC mining for now, and upped my rep on bounty.

I'm interested about using a trade route to make new things on this game, ROC mining is really repetitive

I got these results using the tool

What are your thoughts about the second route ? 5k less but faster by 5min so it's worth

[burnt storm]

thats up to you, you can prioritize by money over time rather than money per trip on the top left.

[potent eagle]

Yep, also what's the meaning of this ?

is this the stock at location ??

[burnt storm]

its the expected stock at the location and demand at the sell location, but your experience may vary

[frosty sentinel]

👍 🤣

[hard siren]

Are outposts lifts working at the main trading routes

[mild pumice]

getting 4scu boxes in the avanger titan is tricky

oops I though MIC L3 was a bit closer 😄 Need to stop for gas!

Nice I found a quick delivery from EH to Pyro Gateway I can tag on!

[potent eagle]

so I need 64 on both sides ?

[burnt storm]

no, you just might have to wait to sell. The demand refreshes every tick.

also the demand is shared across servers and regions I believe or something.

[potent eagle]

Ok well i'm gonna try this route then

is it dangerous ?

like is this mining facility using camped by ppl

[mild pumice]

oof almost got caught out, no refuel at Pyro Gateway - must be bugged, luck I have just enough to get to Mic-L3 from filling up at EH!

[visual night]

usually no players, but I think a Cutty Black hostile NPC spawns there often

[mild pumice]

maybe some part time pirate might try to sneak onto your ship

yarr

[potent eagle]

i see

ill give it a shot lol

[mild pumice]

just be sure to close your ship when you go to the buy terminal and keep your eyes open when loading

those NPC ships are a pain but once they fly into the armistice zone they can't shoot anymore so will just hover and watch although I know some sites if near a derelict outpost can get NPC ground troops landing nearby

[distant lion]

The cargo rework is pretty cool, I only wish it would work
cargo elevator ate 70k worth of distilled spirits

[mild pumice]

I lost 1.5m of Diamonds my hangar disappeared as I flew in, I was left falling to my death. Ship was destroyed.

[distant lion]

o7

that hurts

[mild pumice]

Yeah it sucks lol. But is what it is, only take 3 Vulture runs to get that back lol

[distant lion]

I gotta get into salvaging

trading obviously has some new nicks to work around :P

[mild pumice]

It's my break up play to hauling at the moment

[distant lion]

right, sleep time
good luck in the verse

[trim walrus]

I started hauling yesterday with my C2 and ATLS, I wanted to know the ins and outs as well as pros and cons. I am having so much fun so far and reached member status today.

[mild pumice]

nice I managed to get my Alt to Jnr today - I regret taking that mission the other side of the system - took ages LOL

[mild pumice]

glad to hear you're enjoying it! 🫡

[trim walrus]

When do rep start increasing for Covalex?

[slow yoke]

Are there any haulage-based orgs around Spectrum? With SC focusing on it's MMO aspect I feel like being in an org is more important than ever for those just trying to haul cargo around, especially with the new engineering mechanics being introduced.

[mild pumice]

It seems bugged at the moment but as long as you're getting rank per mission don't worry about it.

[left python]

Any tips about leveling Hauling rep? ie Should we do lots of small ones or focus on the bigger ones? The ones with the bigger payout ?

Been in member rank for 3 days now 😳

Can’t wait to unlock the larger one

[trim walrus]

I usually take the same ones focusing on same locations with big and small ones combined.

[mild pumice]

Small > medium > large seems to give the same rep, for member there's a nice stack of 6 missions at Microtech will give you nice chunk of rep.

[slow yoke]

I want to do hauling missions but Hurston LEO seems to be part of Blockade Runner making it almost impossible to deliver shipments solo without getting blown up by rogue missiles.

[mild pumice]

Member is where the grind starts

[trim walrus]

May I know more about this? Which one do you exactly take?

[mild pumice]

Yeah just avoid whatever station is blockade currently (check the priority mission before you start)

[mild pumice]

These ones, they all should be different commodity and sort them first into the 3 drops to save you time, I did them in my Corsair

It takes about 30 missions or so to finish the member rank

[trim walrus]

Don't you get player pirates tagging you along?

[mild pumice]

Never had any issues, just for privacy I used the hangars at the DCs

Mission cargo is low value tbh, no pirate gonna be interested in my tungsten lol

My main account I'm about 1/4 through Senior rank but taking a break due to burn out

175 missions I think

In total so far

[trim walrus]

Yeah yesterday I was literally sleeping while doing hauling to reach member lol

Within 24 hours I reached member.

I mean not 24 hours gameplay

I took a break

[mild pumice]

It's nice relaxing gameplay

[trim walrus]

Yeah I am enjoying it so far

Also any tips to placing cargo on cargo grids the nice way with ATLS?

I can't put it all the way back so I have to go in close some times.

Sometimes it works sometimes doesn't.

[mild pumice]

Honestly I just use the ATLS to shunt the boxes then place with the maxlift. I've been running in my Caterpillar

[trim walrus]

nice speed run vid lol

[mild pumice]

Lol I made it a few days ago real time 15 mins

[trim walrus]

I had a cat but melted it seemed too hard for me to place the boxes and unloading all the time

I liked it but yeah...

[mild pumice]

Yeah it takes some practice to find the best ways to load, I like the compartments for sorting loads for multiple drops

[stable comet]

Anybody had any luck with the hull c? I just could not get it to load I fly into the box but it just says “error loading cargo” constantly no matter what position I have the ship in

[mild pumice]

If my Hull C wasn't a loaner I'd melt it. That thing is cursed, it's the biggest SC fail yet. I really hope it gets the fixes it needs but I'm not holding my breath, the loading system needs a full rework it's never been right. I did hear on the SC live there will be external FEs and manual loading options for the Hull C and other vehicles, this might be the way forward

[hallow hearth]

Agreed, the Hull C really is a huge ongoing embarrassment to CIG. Needs to be bugfixed ASAP

[trim walrus]

:S

My containers are not accepted at NB what the hell do I do now?

This is so stupiddddddddd

@mild pumice help me out dude :/

[coarse ember]

try tdd, looks like you're at admin

unless i'm dense and got it wrong lol

[trim walrus]

i am at admin yes

let me see if TDD works

DAMN

you have saved me!

@coarse ember thx a lot dude!

[coarse ember]

lol np

[still ridge]

is there a work around for the admin not letting me sell at banjani

[pearl juniper]

what are you trying to sell?

[still ridge]

meds

[pearl juniper]

need to sell those at the TDD if I remember right

[slate spruce]

Has there been some update to ship tractor beam controls? I've been trying to rotate a container yesterday using cutlass TB, and no combination of R, L-Alt and mouse movement+scrolling seemed to work.

[craggy tapir]

The cutlass tractor beam works?

[slate spruce]

Well, yes. Placement's bad, but you can turn it on, and clumsily move the boxes around.

[craggy tapir]

huh

i thought it as still broken

[halcyon knot]

Anyone on that hauling grind wanna squad up get the missions done faster?!

[tepid tulip]

Would you guys take a Cat or an M2 for hauling missions and trading?

[slate spruce]

For hauling missions definitely Cat, the compartments make it easy to separate boxes for each destination. For trading the M2 has one large compact storage space, making it easier to just load bulk in huge containers.

[tepid tulip]

hmm now i need to decide if i pledge a cat lmao

[trim walrus]

I am doing cargo and its so much fun with ATLS, realistic all the way!!

https://tenor.com/view/honest-work-doge-mcdonalds-celestev69-gif-24104057

[mild violet]

with tractor beam same

[orchid void]

Hello, anyone experienced+ rank wanna make some hauling missions? Gotta grind that rep

[mild violet]

?

what do you mean? 😄 You can do them in party or what?

[orchid void]

I mean I think so

but since I'm a junior ranked, if I do higher rank missions I'll progress faster through the low ranks

[mild violet]

but you wont be doing the experienced mission I think?

idk how this works

so maybe you are right

depends I guess

[orchid void]

if I crew up with someone experienced, they can take experienced missions and share them

we'd both get half of the rep tbh I think but for me half of it is still more than a junior mission's rep gain
And for him he just makes more missions in less time since we're crewing up

[mild violet]

interesting

i am junior as well right now, but thx for the info

[deft sequoia]

hey, is it normal that it takes a loooot to level up from member??

soo many missions

(i'm talking about covalex rep)

[left python]

yeah ive been grinding for about a week now and i am like 60%

the server issues didnt helped (it was abandoning my contracts 😦 )

[fallow ridge]

Are cargo mission still buggy?

[digital echo]

no, they work pretty consistently. Just no missions to ground locations other than Distros.

[wheat moss]

I believe contractes shared between 2 people actually get them both 60% of the xp, not 50

[viral harbor]

im at an outpost... havent delivered anything yet.... it just says transferring to warhouse

constantly loading

[livid briar]

I literally just hit Member rep on Cargo... and took two missions and lost one of my two SCU containers, so I chose to do the better paying mission and ended up submitting cargo from Mission 1 to Mission 2 and it didn't count ... So I had to abandon both and now I am ineligible rank

SO DUMB ... Member to ineligible because a bugged crate

How does one gain rep when you can't do any contracts now

[viral harbor]

jeez ive abandoned at least 4 member missions now and my rep is unchanged

from what ive heard though you have to basically join someone who can do the missions

[livid briar]

LFG Cargo missions..........

[spare cloud]

#looking-for-session

[livid briar]

was more saracasm based on previous remark

[spare cloud]

Idk I don't read

[winter steeple]

Came to see if anyone else is losing Rep and im glad to see I am not alone. Cannot get past member for life of me due to the issues and almost at negative at this point.

[left python]

Yeah I stopped doing hauling contract because of that. Feels like a constant grind and stucked at member rank after so many bugged missions

[silk star]

yo can anyone help me with this one

[trim walrus]

This happened to me yesterday, if you are at admin go to TDD

[silk star]

tdd is ?

[trim walrus]

Trade development division

[silk star]

and thats where?

sory am new XD

[trim walrus]

Assuming you are in Area18

Go to accorp plaza

Look for round big white logo

[silk star]

niceeee ,tnx mate

[floral copper]

Are planet cargo elevators/selling points still bugged currently? Saw last night tons of cargo just left everywhere and when we tried to sell stuff it was the same issue.

[tardy umbra]

Do interstellar hauling missions give you more rep than others, or am I just wasting my time?

[mild violet]

Who knows

[still ridge]

as far as i know yes

[leaden monolith]

It seems to be the consensus that all missions for a level give the same rep. I don't know whether or not this has been scienced or if it is just a gut feeling.

[pearl juniper]

I have always supposed that the rep is proportional to the pay. IE, mission that pays 20k at a given level gives more rep than one that pays 16k. They implied this in one of the SCL videos where the economy guy talked about the effort vs reward calculation, I believe he said it factors into rep as well as money.

but it would be hard to prove either way in game, with the level progression being just a vague bar graph and not a value

[abstract root]

anyone know why i cant buy gold form smo-18?

[potent eagle]

dont

[craggy tapir]

Don't buy if the elevators don't work

[wild nest]

can i sell widow at grim?

[cloud robin]

Yes

[still plume]

i did 10 missions gained like less than 10% on member level

[edgy shadow]

Yea, its not supposed to be instant gratification. Its designed to take time and effort to progress. Long term goals game.

[undone socket]

is the hull c working after new hotfix?? does any1 know?

[mild pumice]

Were they all member level? You don't get much rep for doing lower level missions, I think it was about 40 member level missions I had to do

[still plume]

NO JUNIOR

[still plume]

i want to know too

[mild pumice]

That's why you need to do member rank missions to maximise the member rank progression

And so on for experienced/senior

[still plume]

i was of the understanding that the rank of the mission doesnt matter that much

even when did 4 member ranks it didnt really move the dial

[mild pumice]

I was measuring it, it definitely seems to for me at least I'm grinding my way through senior at the moment but that is slow

As far as I can tell each rank progressed the requirement is around 3x more and the rank offered per mission is around 2x the previous mission rank equivalent.

[knotty dove]

are all systems similar to each other for haulling missions or is there a system that has better missions as in better routes?

becouse Junior rank missions are getting on my nerves

[left python]

Has anyone tried handling 32SCU boxes with the ATLS?

Is it a “smooth” experience?

[still plume]

NO

[mild pumice]

Microtech and Hurston have more due to distribution centers

[mild pumice]

It's great for moving them but placing them in a ship is another story

[left python]

yeah even the smaller box, been a pain in the back... i'm using maxlift most of the time because its way better for snapping on the grid

atls moves thing fast, but so awful to precisely load it

i was considering ATLS instead of auto-load / unload (trading) to make max profit, but doesnt seem enjoyable just yet

[knotty dove]

Well i like it its just that 8SCU+ boxes are ammoying to load into C2

[still plume]

to make atls loading easier load from back to front and left to right or right to left

always make sure your front side is clear when you grab a box

free lok to grab dont look left to right

[tawdry light]

Are the scrapyard elevators still broken?

[merry prism]

yes mostly take to grim hex and sell or hold till they are fixed. Elevators at scrapyards are mostly dependent on which servers are still working.

[slate spruce]

Maybe a stupid question, but is it possible to map the controls of ship tractor beam? I can't seem to find them anywhere in the keybindings...

[hallow hearth]

They are under vehicle - salvage for some reason

[still plume]

each member rank mission is worth 5%

[still plume]

2 then 4 missions so 5% per mission exactly

[humble merlin]

They work on some servers

Up to you if you want to server hop multiple times till you find one that works

I had to do that for my weevil eggs the other night

[humble merlin]

Problem with waiting is that the last time they put out a hotfix it wiped whatever cargo you had stashed

[pearl juniper]

Did the hotfix wipe cargo? I thought that was just the .1 patch. Hotfix didn't wipe anything else at least.

[tall karma]

Yeah you can't hoard cargo

Patches wipe stored commodities

[frank warren]

Are freight elevators broken at outposts? All of them just say Transferring to warehouse and I just got there

[humble merlin]

A lot of servers scrapyards are broken, yeah, if it's your own cargo you can bedlog nearby and server hop until you get one that's working

[frank warren]

I haven't bought anything yet. But was going to

Was hoping this server worked because it has like 17 people online

[humble merlin]

Can go to your sell point to make sure the lift works before you buy if you wanted to be safe

But no guarantee that your buy point lift is working

So you'd wanna check both

[frank warren]

I just went to all the lifts to check ahead of time and none of them are workuing

Wish it would just auto load into my ship >-<

[humble merlin]

Yeah :(

[frank warren]

Found some ships no one is using anymoer with stems tho

So wil ltake the free credits

[humble merlin]

Hoftix

[tawdry light]

I see. I'll try that. Thanks.

[lime vessel]

Is this bug fixed on the hotfix or still not?

[lusty owl]

anyone have the sizes and # of boxes id want for a full caterpillar load?

[viral harbor]

whats the storage space per bay on a caterpillar actually

[lusty owl]

thats a good question, seems like the nose is different from the 4 bays

its looking like 8 24scus and 10 or 12 16scus

[viral harbor]

in one bay?

gah dayum

[lusty owl]

oh na, i was able to snap 2 24s on the bottom of each bay

nose wouldnt take a 24

also couldnt snap 24s ontop of the 24s in the lower bay, so im guessing 2 24s on the bottom, 2 16s on the top

maybe 4 16s in the nose

or i might should try abunch of 8s lol

[spare cloud]

Check the pins.

But also you can put a 32 one instead of the 24. Doesn't snap, but fits great

[lusty owl]

oooh sweet thanks

[orchid void]

Can I sell at TDD directly from my cargo grid or do I need to unload in the warehouse?

[pearl juniper]

In theory you can. It's buggy though

[umbral basin]

I've been trying to do that and it keeps saying failed

[tall karma]

You have to store the ship

[tall karma]

Don't use your home city. Seems to never work at the city with your personal hangar. I do it at grim hex often and it works

[umbral basin]

It wasn't home city

[spice tree]

Does Orison not accept Hephaestanite (HEPH)? It just says cannot sell.

Was trying a trade route by UEX for Terra to Orison

[frank warren]

Note to self.... don't store stolen goods in your ship and then store said ship in a normal station/city...

[eager fog]

what happened?

[frank warren]

It wiped the cargo from my ship

Stored the ship because I wasn't 100% sure if the cargo would be classified as stolen. So Stored it at Port Tressler to see if I could sell. Go to the Admin and it shows my ship has no cargo. Go and pull my ship back up and it is empty

Went to go buy gold one day and found that the elevators werent working. Saw there was a raft half full with cargo and was no longer being used., So took the cargo lol

[limpid sluice]

any tips on finding a salvage outpost with a working freight elevator? 😦

[keen scroll]

seems like trading is basically dead in this game, its every freight elevator that i go to that just doesnt work, i can switch servers over and over, and ill still get the same issue

like how is this not fixed??

ive been to 3 different servers

there is no way this isnt a known bug

[slate spruce]

Devlin's usually works ok, but the servers today were extra crispy

[keen scroll]

ive just been going to the outposts on microtech, ill check delvin now ig

and i just crashed lol

[slate spruce]

I had 3 ctds and two server errors during two hours of playing today. Yesterday was absolutely fine, 5 hours without a glitch, seems like a bad day.

[keen scroll]

and this has been an issue for 2 weeks?!

fucking hell

ridiculous

yeah, only god knows when

[mild violet]

interesting

[humble merlin]

It'd be a decent starter for cargo

[sweet grail]

Anyone can tell me all the ranks of the hauling rep?

[mild pumice]

You can see them in the Rep app under Covalex. They are: rookie, junior, member, experienced, senior, master 🚚

[dreamy scaffold]

Hello what’s the best planet to do cargo hauling missions? Best place to increase reputation on cargo hauling

[cloud robin]

The best way to increase rep is try to collect multiple missions that pick up from the same place and plan a route from there, there's not necessarily a "best planet" for it

[slate spruce]

I found that the missions stack better with DCs involved. Hurston is nowadays awfully often target of Blockade Runner event, so microTech is imho the best choice.

On mT you can get 6 rookie missions direct Tressler -> Greycat DC, 3 junior missions DC -> research outpost, etc.

[orchid void]

is it better to grind hauling rep and then do those or to simply make beryl runs where with a full C2 I can get 400k per run approx

??

since idk how much do higher rank hauling missions pay

[craggy tapir]

About 100k per mission

[cloud robin]

Hauling is far from the most profitable, it can be relaxing tho

[orchid void]

what's curretly the most profitable way to make aUec?

[slate spruce]

Hauling is the "accountant" type of job, in order to make decent money you need to accept multiple missions simultaneously and keep track of what to load/unload where.
Trading is simple, but you risk your own money on routes well known to the pirates.
Salvage is probably still the most profitable, it's a powerwash simulator.
Mining is complex, safe, and requires spikes of focus when cracking the rocks.

Each of the things is fun/relax/dopamine boost for some, and pain for others. If you simply want numbers-go-up, pick trade or salvage.

[cloud robin]

Selling items and gear to other players

I'm doing a bit of human trafficking rn and I earn millions per hour

[orchid void]

where do you even find those rare items?

[cloud robin]

SPK, bunkers, distros, etc.

[wind heath]

Guys is hull C good for hauling?

Or its bugged?

[lusty cypress]

i wouldn't saying hauling is worth it in a hull c, better to buy and sell comodities yourself

its really good if you avoid docking with it i found. im pretty sure they reduced the load/unload time with it. makes solid income without much input, allowing you to watch a movie/ do work at the same time

[worthy herald]

Are the ground cargo freight elevators working fine now?

[craggy tapir]

what?

[cloud robin]

[craggy tapir]

i dont judge, rather i wanna know how

[craggy tapir]

did they ever?

[cloud robin]

I kidnap local security officers and sell them to players, you want some?

[craggy tapir]

nah

[cloud robin]

[ocean compass]

is there a recommended starter trading ship to rent with like a budget of 100k?

[craggy tapir]

cutlass

[orchid void]

wanna gain 100k via trading additionally DM me ;)

[craggy tapir]

rent at arc-l4

44k

i think

could be 50k now

[ocean compass]

im bored, dont feel like renting a prospector tonight

thinking abt doing some trading

guess cutlass black it is. lemme check out the trade route elevator working or not first

[craggy tapir]

do station trading then

[ocean compass]

oh wait

i can rent a Hall-A for only 50k at arc corp (im there right now)

that seems like a good deal

[craggy tapir]

hull A can hold

64 scu?

[cloud robin]

yes

[ocean compass]

yes

hull A better than cutlass 46

and cheaper at 50k

[craggy tapir]

cutlass is also 50k tho

[ocean compass]

i rented my cutlass at 52k ytd

haha

[craggy tapir]

for pure trading Hull A

multi purpose is definitely cutlass black

[worthy herald]

Do they actually defend something? Or its just for decorative purposes

[ocean compass]

yeah i wanna give trading a go tonight instead of mining

i think i shall take a Hull A

[cloud robin]

They will turn friendly again after a while, if you then drop them a gun they will shoot any hostile players

[ocean compass]

for only 50k its fine

also i remember seeing this trick abt trading, buying 16SCU gold containers then snap loading to side of ship, which has cargo grids on the sides

for the Hull A

or was it not Hull A?

[cloud robin]

Hull A has on the sides yes

[craggy tapir]

4 16scu

gonna find a server with functional freight elevators tho

[ocean compass]

yeah im gonna check the freight elevators first

if it doesnt work, then i guess im doing station trading

[craggy tapir]

ye

or server hop

[ocean compass]

i still have yet to successful server hop.

because my goddamn bed on my 300i isnt working ffs

[cloud robin]

There's 2 get up buttons

One further up and one further down

The one on the downside you can bedlog with

If you cannot see it, take your core and helmet off and you should be able to access it

[ocean compass]

i didnt try that. i did try every single fucking screen estate while lying down

[cloud robin]

Does it work for you?

[ocean compass]

no idea, i try later, currently in QT to the outpost

[sweet grail]

Hey thanks,im very far away from home in my truck so i dont have access to the game 🤣 i just wanted to check something! Ty again

[cloud robin]

Out working trucking only to get home and do space trucking

[sweet grail]

Bruh im 11 hours at the serbian-croatian border

[mild pumice]

Seems legit

[sweet grail]

Real life sucks

[mild pumice]

I'm dying from senior grind

I'm about 1/4 though now somewhere between 15 and 20 missions so gotta be around 60-80 needed

[sweet grail]

Is it fixed? I mean every mission gives the same exp no matter what?

[ocean compass]

nope, removed helmet not working

[cloud robin]

Remove core armor?

There should be a button on the bottom bedside

[ocean compass]

cant remove, using the thermo armor 😛

too heavy

[cloud robin]

The Pembroke?

[ocean compass]

tried storing in the ship doesnt allow

and i just crashed

yeah

[cloud robin]

Game crash?

[ocean compass]

yeah game crashed

[cloud robin]

Load into PU

You should get put back

[ocean compass]

i try dropping armor inside ship see if i can log out

[cloud robin]

The armor should still be on the floor when you log back in

But no promises

[ocean compass]

no buttons

i can stream for you to see

no log out button

[cloud robin]

I can't rn

[ocean compass]

its definitely not working on the 300i

im fully nekkid

no log out button

[indigo fox]

Since it takes longer to manual load cargo and stuff at mining posts to sell versus just auto loading like it use to, Is the profit you get from selling been raised a bit in 3.24?

[slate spruce]

Nope, all prices are still the same

[indigo fox]

Damn

I guess they weren’t kidding when they said they wanted to slowly make the game more difficult and time consuming to make money.

Makes sense I guess. For long term

[ocean compass]

shit

this trading thing isnt working out lol

1st try, the ship bug out when i was loading, and knocked me into the ground, i lost all the cargo

2nd try, i loaded the freight elevator, sell the stuff

i didnt receive my aUECs

wth man

lucky i do 30% of my NW only

i lost over 400k out of my 700k

[frank warren]

Still rough

I wanted to try trading gold but the elevators dont even work for me to get my gold

So I gave up on that

Unless it would autoload me

Which I dont think it does

[azure coral]

any way to sell weavel eggs or just impossible atm ?

[spare cloud]

Pretty much impossible

The only way is to keep server hopping until you find a working elevator

Can take ages

[pearl juniper]

Has anyone tried Reclamation and Disposal?

[spare cloud]

Recrimination

[pearl juniper]

lol, I was struggling there

[spare cloud]

Orinth ? Or R&D in Lorville ?

[pearl juniper]

Ohh, Orinth is not the one in Lorville?

I have only been to the one in Lorville once

[azure coral]

rip thx for answer lol will just keep it stored till they hopefully fix it then XD

[spare cloud]

Yeah Orinth is the scrap yard on Hurston. Same thing as other scrapyard like Brio's.
While the one in Lorville is just a useless shop with a mission giver NPC inside

[pearl juniper]

dang. I came into a bunch of eggs last night, couldn't sell them, then this morning remembered that place in Lorville and thought it might be worth a try. I'll keep trying the scrap yards on different servers I guess.

[spare cloud]

It takes so much time GWE isn't even worth it anymore

Better pick all the other drugs and sell in GH

[limpid sluice]

I just store everything in Grim until I find a working elevator

[frank warren]

So it is worth me even working on the rep to get the eggs to sell?

[limpid sluice]

At some point they'll fix the elevators, and I'd gamble on them being fixed before rep wipes, so yes?

[pearl juniper]

Supposed to be another hotfix today too fix the elevators

[thick folio]

Oh?

[pearl juniper]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/lobby/38230

[thick folio]

Oh shit dope

I saw they commented on the reports but didn't give a time line

[pearl juniper]

Server side fix, so you won't necessarily know if it's happened

[thick folio]

Fair hopefully it all pans out

I got lucky and managed to find a working elevator like 2 days ago, and haven't found one since. 😂

[pearl juniper]

Yeah, I haven't tried other than doing a few local haul missions on Hurston, and those have all been working. But there's nothing good to buy or sell there, so they don't get much use.

I have a mix of experienced and member rank hauling missions that pays about 275k / hr though, not bad for missions.

[spare cloud]

Yeah, other drugs still make money, and like Krovik said it'll be fixed too at some point

[mild violet]

and how do you get the eggs?

[pearl juniper]

ERT's

there are some illegal bounty missions that give them too. Maybe other sources?

[limpid sluice]

They come from the weevils of course. The real question though, is what came first, the weevil or the egg

[mild violet]

hm okay xd

[frank warren]

So there is a hoxfix going out tonight that might fix the elevators

Would it be worht buying gold now or no

[pearl juniper]

I would wait till you know it's fixed...

[frank warren]

Okay

Was thinking of stocking up on it so I can just bulk sell. But it makes sense to just hold off and wait

[pearl juniper]

isn't it the buying / loading side of it's that's broken? Selling at TDD works fine mostly (I have not had problems selling mining cargo anyway)

[upbeat pagoda]

Hi

I've not done a hauling mission before

where do I pickup the cargo?

[cloud robin]

[upbeat pagoda]

👋

[cloud robin]

It's says in the contract description

[upbeat pagoda]

No yeah I'm here at the station

I just don't know where to go to pick it up

[pearl juniper]

freight elevator. In your hanger if it's a site with hangers, but some locations just have outdoor freight elevators

[upbeat pagoda]

Oh ok, the new elevators

[pearl juniper]

yep, it's all part of the new cargo system

[upbeat pagoda]

First time playing in like a year

ramping up for my yearly 3 month interest

[cloud robin]

@upbeat pagoda Only take city/station/distribution center contracts tho

[upbeat pagoda]

What other ones are there?

[cloud robin]

The ground outpost elevators aren't working properly atm

[wheat moss]

outposts

[upbeat pagoda]

oh ok

[indigo fox]

Does docking work on the Hull C yet?

[cloud robin]

Yes

Docking has worked for a good while

But the buying and selling cargo is broken

[indigo fox]

Good to hear. It’s been awhile since I’ve played. Last I played it was having issues still

[indigo fox]

Wait what.

[cloud robin]

When buying cargo it might just take your moneyand you don't get cargo

[pearl juniper]

some of the lesser used ones are. I ran a couple of loops on Hurston last night from distribution center to mining outposts with no problems.

[cloud robin]

When selling it might just not work or you won't get the cargo

[indigo fox]

What the hell. This game man

[cloud robin]

So don't use the Hull C yet

[indigo fox]

😦

[cloud robin]

C2 also has higher profit/hour btw

As you can load from ground outposts/cities

But most outposts are bugged atm soo

[indigo fox]

But that’s not as fun. Wish CIG would get their shit together. lol

[upbeat pagoda]

I miss my C2

[cloud robin]

This "Wish CIG would get their shit together" is not helping

If you say that you don't know how much work they have

Of course there will be bugs, it's an alpha game. They are just letting us playtest it

You can't expect everything to be working perfectly in an alpha game

[frank warren]

Yeah, but I can buy and have them store at the local inventory for me to go and pick up later once the elevators work

[still plume]

Does the hull c work yet

[cloud robin]

It's still quite buggy

[ocean compass]

i seriously hope your doing a /s instead of a believer 🙂

[coarse ember]

i mean they are being factual, alpha state games always do have bugs in them it just depends on the game for what they affect

if everything was working perfectly it would be a beta or retail release

[floral copper]

Where do you sell large SCU containers of eggs?

Like, the largest crates.

[coarse ember]

cant
outposts/scrapyards take 24 scu max while largest is 32 scu, iirc in some spectrum post one of the devs suggested they want to remove the 32scus from ert loot

i dont think grim hex takes weevil eggs either

[vestal ravine]

What's the safest C2 run like the old days?

[hearty wren]

Did they nerf the ship tractor beam i cant seem to rotate large cargo boxes

[cloud robin]

Why would I be sarcastic? You can't expect there to not be bugs in an alpha game

[ocean compass]

I expect there to be less game breaking bugs in a 1year alpha vs a 11year alpha

[sweet grail]

My sweet summer child...

[cloud robin]

I'd love to see a 1 year alpha have as much content as SC...

Do you happen to know one?

[ocean compass]

not really, because most games come out of alpha instead of perma alpha? hahaha

game's fun, dont get me wrong, but damn there's a lot of bugs.

[spare cloud]

Hephaestanite probably

Fully auto (un)loadable

[potent eagle]

Are elevators on mining stations still glitched ?

it's been nearly a week since I tried

[cloud robin]

You cant expect a game like SC to come out of alpha so soon

Hell it took Sony 10 years to develop Concord

[deft arch]

that game that had like 100 people play it?

[ocean compass]

and got cancelled

[cloud robin]

About 600 yeah, but most of the games downfall was because they didn't release it as playable before release

By letting us play the game while it's in alpha, you get more attention around your game, more money to fund the game and way more playtesters to find bugs and report them

You should be glad they let us play while it's in alpha

[deft arch]

i’m pretty sure that game had more issues than that but it took them 10 years to make that? that’s crazy and no we’re just lucky they haven’t given up on the pipe dream that is star citizen

[sweet grail]

Alpha is just a word that causes less tax for the company mate, warframe is in alpha on paper yet fully released

[cloud robin]

The main reason they haven't given up is the fact that people play the game and actually are interested and pay for it, which could only be possible if they did what they did, let us play it in the alpha state

[cloud robin]

Depends on the server, but they usually don't work

[umbral ember]

atls or connie taurus tractor beam?

[worthy herald]

40$ vs 200$?

[umbral ember]

🤔

[worthy herald]

What are you trying to compare here?

[umbral ember]

convenience in moving the boxes from elevator to ship and vice versa

and speeeed

[craggy tapir]

Atls

💯

Elevator = ship is atls

But space = ship
No

[umbral ember]

uhh wdym>

[craggy tapir]

From zero g to your ship

[umbral ember]

okk?

[worthy herald]

I like tractor beam on connie pretty efficient on land and space plus you get to stay in your cockpit ( lazy ppl will understand )

[umbral ember]

I am lazy yes

soo, go for connie taurus beam?

[craggy tapir]

same

[umbral ember]

or atls

[craggy tapir]

taurus

[worthy herald]

Connie tractor > atls
My personal opinion

[craggy tapir]

ye

loading ships like the c2 is easier with the atls tho

[umbral ember]

I kinda hate having to climb up the ramp of my c2 in atls, then back down again to load cargo

[craggy tapir]

i have pledged atls tbh

uff

my opinion

the c2 should have a tractor beam turret where the m2 has the gun turret

[umbral ember]

agree

[spare cloud]

Sounds like C2 isn't efficiently parked

Get it to face the freight elevator more, so you only have to stay up the C2 ramp with the ATLS

[umbral ember]

noted, thanks!

I also want to do HRTs in my ship tho

should I go for c2?

[mild pumice]

Ya'll actually find the ATLS useful for loading the C2? It was OK with 1 row of 16s but 24s and 32s it was quicker for me just to use the maxlift because mostly it couldn't place the boxes

[craggy tapir]

who trades with 24 and 32 boxes

16 is the max for salvage yard elevator and 24 for the outpost elevators

[spare cloud]

There are a few city/station only trade routes

Scrap yards take 24 SCUs btw

[craggy tapir]

dunno if medium hangar freight elevator can take 24 / 32 scu boxes

24scu, damn

only the elevator in hangar can take 32scu

16scu is kinda the norm for trading for me rn

[sullen rain]

I tried to sell 32 SCU containers of Maze, anyone know where I can do that? Cru L5 only takes 24 SCU, and the other locations either don't have the demand, or the elevators don't work

Cru L5 says they buy 32's, but the sell button says they don't take them

[spare cloud]

Tried CRU-L4 ?

[sullen rain]

Yeah, says no demand and SC trade tools suggested the demand is only 20SCU, I'll try it again

We got 2 32SCU containers so there is a bit of pressure to get them off our hands lol

[sweet grail]

Can you store your salvaged / stolen scu containers at a space station's freight elevator and pick them up at another session or does it have to be your primary residence only?

[worthy herald]

Pretty sure you can store it anywhere

[vestal ravine]

Thanks I will look into this route.

[indigo fox]

So I bought an Atlas thinking it would make loading and unloading boxes in and out of my ship easier. I’ve now discovered that it can’t adjust distance of held boxes. Or even rotate boxes…. What. Isn’t the primary use of this thing to assist with loading and unloading? Shouldn’t it at least be able to do the same basic functions of a tractor beam than? I’m confused.

[sweet grail]

Its way faster than normal beams and u can just snap anything pretty fast, whats your problem exactly? It just doesnt rotate boxes, u dont rly need that, click on the box u wanna carry and then choose where u want it, the robot will place it there

[indigo fox]

It just sort of drags the boxes around. Hitting the side of my ship, the ground, anything into its path. That doesn’t seem right. Where as being able to adjust distance and rotate boxes you can carefully move stuff around and be more accurate and somewhat realistic looking.

[sweet grail]

Hitting around is visual bug dont be afraid of damaging anything, let them bounce

[indigo fox]

My current issue it not being able to see. I picked up a 16scu box out of the elevator to load into my ship, but when I pick it up it auto brings the box right up to my face, blocking my view in front of me.

I donno. Just seems a bit frustrating to use at the moment.

Maybe they will improve it

[sweet grail]

U will figure it out im sure

[upbeat pagoda]

Do you make more money doing cargo missions or running your own cargo

I'm assuming its the latter

[pearl juniper]

Depends on how much you have to invest and how big your ship is.

small - medium ship you can probably make more stacking multiple missions at once. Once you get into the higher rank missions anyway...

[limpid sluice]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/50259/thread/please-increase-demand-for-32-scu-crates-of-drugs/7187264

As per the response in this thread, it seems intentional by CIG and doubtful that you'll be able to sell large drug crates until Pyro is released. It's a big struggle to sell 24s and 32s

[long adder]

are elevators still broken?

[stiff vine]

I noticed when it stops saying "Elevator Called" hit the button again. In my experience the elevator arrived but it's not triggering the doors.

[pearl juniper]

I think he means cargo elevators

[stiff vine]

Oh sorry 😆 They keep addressing it in hotfixes but as shards age they go to crap again. Last night they were having issues on my shard

[long adder]

yeah i want to go do some hauling but i don't known if the cargo elevators are working or not

[stiff vine]

I've just stuck to City/Station trading to avoid the headache for now. Only had one mess up in like 30 missions. Stacked up to 10 at once and it worked fine

[mild pumice]

You're not alone it's pretty janky at the best of times, the view block you mention you can avoid by loading at 45 degree angle but the bouncing and crashing is annoying AF and often the box just won't go in the place you want it. I generally just use it to move the boxes around then place with the maxlift

[indigo fox]

I really hope CIG adds the ability to adjust distance and rotate. I’m a bit surprised that wasn’t a priority before releasing it. It’s a cool little mech. I like the animations of it. But I likely will just use the maxlift for the time being.

[sullen rain]

They shouldn't be in the game if they can't be used then, make them drop after the ability to sell is a thing

[limpid sluice]

Preaching to the choir

[frigid frost]

does anyone have max level cargo hauling and if so how much do missions pay

[round flare]

I’m at experienced at the max I’ve seen them is 80k but that’s like 1k-4k scu

[frigid frost]

im at senior so this doesnt help

Want to know master level payouts

[vast needle]

where is the terminal to buy gold at sm 018

[jade cape]

Check freight elevator before purchasing anything from outposts

The buy kiosk is in the building with the tower with lights on it

[vast needle]

ty much love

[tardy zodiac]

has anyone found a workaround for when you cant sell anything to tdd? (tried auto unloading with error, manually unloaded to warehouse and it doesnt show up at all at tdd etc, character reset and reinstall doesnt work either)

[wheat moss]

Someone told me that after unloading in warehouse you should buy a drink or food by holding F so it goes in the warehouse and refresh it before going to tdd

Haven't tested it tough

[tall linden]

Finally jumping into 3.24.x, How's the Hull-C for hauling? Still bugged? Should I just use my Cat?

[wheat moss]

Bugged, it can work but sometimes it just fuck up your hauling crates

You end up delivering negative crates

[tall linden]

Ouch, okay thanks for letting me know. I'll just use a Cat or Taurus

[halcyon knot]

Is there any updates in regarding the Hull C for the Experienced Cargo Missons of like 1k plus each

are they amining to fix it for 3.24.2?

or is it a 4.0 job?

[tardy zodiac]

thx will try and see...

[still plume]

does the hull c work yet?

[wheat moss]

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[indigo fox]

How has the Hull C still not being fixed yet? Didn’t it come out a year ago? Does the docking work now at least?

[coarse ember]

Don't expect them to fix things quick, docking snub is still broken on Connie 7 years later

[still ridge]

anyone having any luck with hull c running

[tardy zodiac]

actually it seems to be either connected to too much crap in local inventory or a buggy item in the local inventory. it was possible to sell at another planet...

[still ridge]

more like dont expect it to ever get fixed lol

[leaden flume]

anyone know how much DCSR2 sells for?

[humble merlin]

I don't think you can sell that

[leaden flume]

can you sell uncut slam?

[tall karma]

Hull C loading seems to work, but unloading is busted. If you have a friend manually unload your Hull C in and extra large hangar it can work. Weirdly ATC gives the Hull C a large hangar, so its not great.

[leaden flume]

are you contacting the regular atc or the cargo atc for the hull c

[tall karma]

You contact cargo to load it up, but when you try to unload the same way nothing happens

So you gotta do it the hard way

[leaden flume]

are you goin to the kiosk in the station before contacting the cargo atc

[tall karma]

To buy cargo?

[leaden flume]

to sell cargo

[tall karma]

Nope.

[leaden flume]

got to go to kiosk to sell the stuff than it will tell you at the kiosk to contact cargo atc

[humble merlin]

I don't think so

[tall karma]

Are you suggesting that hull c cargo routes are working??

[leaden flume]

yes

[tall karma]

So do you park by an empty pad or get a docking port?

[leaden flume]

check dms

[still ridge]

does selling cargo work yet

[still ridge]

was it pad or docking i been trynna figure this out too lol

[ocean compass]

dont understand your question

[still ridge]

to get the hull c to work do you have to dock or just stop at a pad to be able to pickup/sell at stations

[hallow aspen]

How much can you make with trading with around 50scu?

[still ridge]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh get more cargo space lowk

[hallow aspen]

I dont have money 😭

[still ridge]

oof

go to uex corp web site its a trade route planner for star cit

[hallow aspen]

Thanks 🙏👍

[spare cloud]

You can rent a Taurus, or a Caterpillar

Starting at 120k a day

[leaden monolith]

Just be wary of buying anything at outposts. The freight elevators don't work basically. Try for runs between space stations and/or cities.

[jade cape]

Basically don’t try any trading that involves gold

None of the freight elevators work at those locations to buy from

[crimson mantle]

You could try these routes to start with.
It's only enclosed hangars, so it's less risky and avoids the bugged outpost elevators 🙂

[mild pumice]

Oof they really need to increase demand for all the time you lose loading and unloading then waiting again to sell just makes it waiting simulator lol

[slate spruce]

What are you trading that you're waiting to sell?

[mild pumice]

Distilled spirits

trying elsewhere to sell them now

I was selling at Mic-L5 managed to sell 320scu in an hour, trying Orison as the other LZs look like they're low inventory

[slate spruce]

A18 should accept 4k, other TDDs 2k

[mild pumice]

Hmm Area 18 would have been closer but I'll keep going I'm half way now 🙂

plus Orison is home after I sell I might go out and do some salvage

I bought 640scu, I lost 1x32 it got yeeted into the void by my ATLS when I was moving it 😄 Should still make a bit of a profit tho

[half oak]

are people bothering with the 1k+ scu missions by going back and forth or are they just sticking to smaller contracts?

[mild pumice]

they're for the Hull C really but it's not working AFAIK (delivered boxes show as negative)

Since they don't really pay any more no reason to take them unless you intend to do them with the C

[half oak]

they could fix that problem by releasing the Ironclad at CitizenCon 🙂

[worthy herald]

Okay here’s a tough one
Connie Taurus or zeus mk2 CL ?

[mild pumice]

Sold the rest in one go at Orison so was defo worth the trip 🙂

even with the lost box and unloading fees I think I made around 100k

[mild pumice]

hard to say until we test fly the Zeus, obviously will be less SCU overall but should be a nice fly

My main concern is it looks like there's a lot of smaller boxes to make up the SCU capacity so might be a bit of a faff loading

[worthy herald]

Dont think it has a tractor beam does it?

[mild pumice]

yeah it does with that funky 3 piece arm

[mild pumice]

there's some good footage a couple of ISC ago

[tall karma]

so in my hull c testing today I got impounded, but it happened AFTER I had initiated a sell order. So I manually unloaded the hull c since there's no way to get it out of a large hangar with the spindles extended.

Even though I loaded all the cargo into the "sell order" hangar, the station is still expecting my hull c to go to a loading area

and I am pretty sure the sale never completed, though the cargo is not in my freight elevator.

[tall linden]

That really stinks. Thanks for sharing. I was going to try the hull-c today, but I will avoid it for now. I saw something similar happen in a YT video.

[mild pumice]

ok so I misread the totals I didn't actually make any money on the distilled spirits trade 😄

640scu with auto loading cost me 322k and sold for 335k (including the fees) so 13k return. Manually loading/unloading would be 303k/355k

[tall karma]

It was entirely avoidable if I had approached the cargo zone the right way, but because you move like a snail with your spindles extended I wasn't able to hustle out of the impound area.

[still plume]

Or they could fix the e fucking hull c

Does the hull c work yet?

[tall karma]

Kinda? There are those who claim it does if you know the proper order of operations.

[still plume]

I want to use it for hauling

[nocturne silo]

I wish the Cat was better

[tall karma]

It might work for hauling missions if you buy one crate to sell on top of the hauling mission for your destination, go to the admin terminal and initiate a sale of that item, which gets you the unloading initiation. I haven't tested it because I am not experienced hauler rank.

[nocturne silo]

I love it to death, because it feels like a space truck, but it's not even competitive with its main rival

[tall karma]

I think other systems will make the cat more effective. CIG has stated you'll be able to configure box sizes (i.e. convert a 32 SCU to 2x 16SCU) in the future, and the tractor beam turret will get improvements. Also the Cat was meant to be modular, so if it gets a modular gold pass those cargo sections may become more functional.

[nocturne silo]

Mmmmmmm

There are other changes it needs

The pods are big enough to hold a 32SCU box already

The grid just doesn't allow them to snap on for some reason

[tall karma]

That's a problem for a decent number of ships

But one that CIG has stated is intentional for the most part due to their desire to make cargo more complicated and not just a straight stacking of 32SCU containers.

[nocturne silo]

I just made a spectrum post(under the caterpillar section) pointing out my thoughts on it, lol

[tall karma]

Ultimately they'd have to change the total SCU value that Cat can haul if they allowed 32 SCU containers to snap to the grid

[nocturne silo]

Sure, but if it fits in the space physically, it should snap to the grid.

.... they wouldn't though

You can fit 2x16 worth of SCU in the same space

Last I checked at least

[still plume]

I have a carrack

I can’t put anything it

Lovely

[nocturne silo]

At current, assuming they snapped, you could only fit 8x32SCU containers on a Cat. That's 256/576

[nocturne silo]

They need to drastically address this too

[limpid sluice]

Pretty sure cargo grids aren't designed to be based on "what fits"

[still plume]

If only you knew

[limpid sluice]

I mean, there's a lot of ships that can fit more or larger boxes off grid. Seems like a pretty intentional design choice

[nocturne silo]

Certainly

I've seen a Vulture with 27 SCU before, and it's very much not the intention

But if I go into a Caterpillar pod, it appears to just be cargo grid the whole width, from corner of door to corner of door(because it was designed before easily visually identified grids came about).

That being the case, it visually looks to hold a 32SCU box. It physically does the same.

It just doesn't snap

[limpid sluice]

I think the cat needs a big redesign though. Cargo blocks traversal through all the modules. Doorways get blocked, ladder access gets blocked, not even a ladder in the front compartment to get up to the cat. I love and hate the cats design. Not supporting 32 on grid is something I appreciate though. Can't sell 32scu drug crates, so loot is better

Assuming it actually spawns with any cargo, but that's another issue

[nocturne silo]

Idk if posting links is frowned upon or not. I'd post my selecting link to give people more of my thoughts on detail though.

The only things I didn't go in on were modules and the command module, since those are long-standing points that have been hashed dozens of times.

[tall karma]

I just successfully completed a Hull C Cargo Delivery - this was NOT a hauling mission, just Point A -> Point B Cargo Sale.

1. Bought cargo at Seraphim (helium) while my Hull-C was Docked at the Docking Port.
2. Un-docked, extended spindle, and left the area to avoid impounding.
3. Called Cargo ATC.
4. Entered Cargo Loading Area, and once stationary hit "I" to turn off engines to ensure no movement while loading.

Next - QT'd do Baijini to sell my cargo, upon arrival I called normal ATC and docked at Baijini.

1. Dock at the station.
2. Go to Admin and initiate your sale.
3. Return to ship and undock being sure to leave the area to not get impounded.
4. Contact Cargo ATC and navigate into the highlighted area slowly to avoid entering another area that will get you impounded.
5. Turn off your engines once stationary to avoid moving while cargo is unloaded.

Total was only like 303k aUEC for the effort, but it required no manual loading or unloading of my Hull C.

With all the running through the station and with how tedious it can be to navigate a fully loaded Hull C with spindle extended to dock at the station, it was probably a 30 minute route.

Also, a bit more challenging and route limiting to try and do during the blockade event as it cuts off one of the few stations you want to deliver cargo to.

[mild pumice]

One thing to watch out for is the ship can get impounded if you take too long setting up the sell order, a problem I guess if you have to wait for demand!

[tall karma]

is demand ever an issue for hull c shipments?

[mild pumice]

It should follow the same rules I'd have thought? But maybe those kind of resources have good demand

If the Hull C gets more reliable I could see it becoming a factor

[tall karma]

I think the demand is so high that you'd need like 12 Hull C pilots doing the same route to ever exhaust the demand

I wonder how risky it would be to try and deliver to EH while blockade is active in a Hull C.

[mild pumice]

I might give it a go later, I've been avoiding due to the message that can get stuck on your HUD

[mild pumice]

My Caterpillar got shot at a lot lol but I landed safely

[tall karma]

Oh yeah, I had docking overlay stuck on my HUD leaving SS until I finally docked at Baijini just now.

Yeah, but your cat went INTO a hangar

My Hull C would be stuck at a docking port and exposed at a loading area.

[mild pumice]

Yeah if you're outside you're probably going to have issues plus I remember getting scanned once by an NPC fed and that obstructed my cargo area so I'm guessing NPCs pirates will cause that issue

Even after they scanned me they wouldn't leave me alone lol.

I've had once chase me all the way from Port Olisar to Orison ages ago, I tried to do it in an Argo Cargo and the fed kept following lol

[tall karma]

I think it could be faster than some cargo delivery options, and it was only 1mil investment to make 313k.

As long as you avoid the 10mil route that only pays like 280k, its not too bad.

[tall karma]

So yeah, Hull C trading seems to work fine. It might actually work more reliably than getting a station to auto-load / unload cargo in a C2.

Pitfalls are avoiding being impounded, and the whole handling of the Hull-C while fully loaded with cargo to get to the docking port - which is incredibly frustrating at times.

[still plume]

wheen you sell cargo

does it let you sell it all ?

i recall in the past i tried to make a sale and it took me a long time to do

[mild pumice]

What about stopping next to the external pad and EVAing into the station @tall karma

[still plume]

as i could sell only 300 a timne

[tall karma]

Didn't try it. I assume your ship has to be storeable for the cargo to be read by the station - but do NOT store it while it is docked with cargo. You sell with it at the dock, not while stored.

Then go and unload.

If just being in proximity to the station works, then it would be very fast with 2 people, owner in a separate ship moving in and out of the station with a small fast ship that has an XL-1 drive, and a pilot to navigate the Hull C to the unloading area.

Though I am not sure if the pilot sees the box where you gotta put the ship for unloading if he isn't the owner.

[tall karma]

What do you mean? The demand was too low or something?

[mild pumice]

It definitely worked prior to the cargo changes however the being docked before loading/unloading could be what keeps the loop working lol

[still plume]

no i think it was hydrogen with high demand

[still plume]

i would have to keep storing and retreiving to sell

[tall karma]

If you're storing and retrieving then I don't think you're doing it right

[still plume]

that was a few wipes ago

[tall karma]

So in the current patch if you store the next time you retrieve your hull c ends up in a large hangar with the spindles stuck in the ground and you cannot escape the hangar.

[still plume]

yeah

but in previous patches i was having to store and retrieve and sell again

cause i couldnt sel;l more than 300

it was a bug you can check the reddit

[tall karma]

So, dock it and do not store. Then at admin just initiate the sale, return to your docked ship and call Cargo. Once you are stationary in the blue square it'll auto unload the whole ship. Upon completion you get paid.

[still plume]

yeah ill try that now

[tall karma]

I advise undocking and moving away from the docking port before calling cargo ATC or you'll have to rush out of the impound zone.

Also make sure you're not delivering to a station currently under the blockade event. I did try and it was very tedious to escape the quantum dampener area.

[vale roost]

Hello, I'm in Dunboro, bought recycled material, where do I unload it from?

[tall karma]

https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Recycled Material Composite

[vale roost]

I don't see how that helps me, I mean the unloading area so I can take the boxes and move them in my ship

[tall karma]

It will be in the cargo storage accesses by the freight elevator. Where did you buy it?

[vale roost]

sorry for not being clear, I mean where do I get the boxes from to load them on my ship, I bought them in Dunboro

[tall karma]

From the freight elevator terminal

[vale roost]

or yes where is the freight elevator in Dunboro

[tall karma]

Its a little yellow pad

Hopefully you didn't buy 32scu crates since I don't think outposts can handle them

[vale roost]

found it, my ship seems to somehow block it but I'll move it away, thank you for the help 😄

and just to mention: I did buy 32SCU crates and at least on Dunboro, it worked just fine, I feel like they wouldn't let you buy 32SCU if you couldn't pull it out, unless they obviously forgot about it and it would require a bugfix, no 64 option there

[crimson mantle]

Unfortunately, they do let you buy boxes larger than the elevators capacity 😅

[vale roost]

yeah, I would assume that since PatchKid's claim 😅 thankfully I could pull them out

[tall linden]

I did this in 3.23

Someone made a graphic of Hull-C trading between stations, wonder if it's still valid.

[tall karma]

Its valid now, but hard to do with blockade because it actually disrupts your ability to use an intuitive route.

[coral shale]

are you able to sell 16 scu boxes of gold?

[tall karma]

Lots of places buy gold, why not?

[coral shale]

had the elevator at MT tell me it does not support that size, at some point

[honest grove]

Where do you buy larger SCU empty crates?

[tall karma]

Largest sold are 8scu

[coral shale]

ahh now i understand what people mean. i bought gold, but im unable to interact with the elevator terminal so i cant actually get the gold onto my ship

[cloud robin]

Up to 8 SCU, most commonly found at cargo centers on every major planetary orbital station

[craggy tapir]

ye
good luck hopping servers for the next 6 hours

[ocean compass]

now you know to check the elevators first before buying anything on outposts 🙂

[lime vessel]

hopefully they will fix this bug soon...

[craggy tapir]

They said they fixed it

(They didnt)

[ocean compass]

at least this bug keeps station-station trading alive 😛

even at such low margins

[potent eagle]

has anyone been able to get something out of elevators on glitched stations?

[craggy tapir]

i hopped servers for like 4 hours

[potent eagle]

i've been trying to get my gold out of mining station on microtech

[potent eagle]

and then you've been able to get it out ?

[craggy tapir]

yes

then i got jumped by pirates

[potent eagle]

[craggy tapir]

96scu of gold

[potent eagle]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

trying 64 rn

idc about profit i just want my money back

[craggy tapir]

sadge

good luck

[ocean compass]

ouch

[craggy tapir]

ye

[ocean compass]

lemme know your location next time when your transporting such valuable cargo

i will provide "escort"

. /s

anyway dont do gold trading

not working atm

100% working is those stations trading, low margins, but still earn decent $$ if you have large vessels

i know for sure beryl trading is working

gold is not

[craggy tapir]

loaded up everything up
got out of tractor turret
only for a guy to fly off and his mate gunning me down

gold

is limited my freight elevator

[ocean compass]

i assure you, once someone finds a working gold elevator

they will call their org for a escort

so profitable on large vessels lol

[craggy tapir]

is beryl trade really working?

cuz freight elevator

[ocean compass]

SCD-01 freight not workign

but beryl is not from SCD-01 🙂

[craggy tapir]

it is

and its the worst buy location

go to smca-8

[spare cloud]

SMCa have low stocks

[craggy tapir]

800scu?

but SMCa-8, RKRO, SM0-10 and SM0-22 have the same price

either one of these 4 would work

[tall karma]

Weird how the hull c routes are now the most reliable

[upbeat pagoda]

Another hauling mission done!

How do I get more than rookie rank ones?

[coarse ember]

gotta keep grinding until your rep is high enough for other missions

[livid briar]

Pretty easy to get past rookie in like one game session. 10 or so missions pretty much unlocks the 100+ SCU missions

[gleaming river]

!tradetools

[jolly dagger]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[near swallow]

I did a Beryl trade run in 3.24.1 with my Taurus. I did have to manually load it and I had to do some calculations to figure out what sizes to buy to fit the main cargo bay, but it did work. Note that if you go to HDMS Ryder, that you may have to take out an NPC Cutty Black from a nearby wreck site. Woodruff however is not near a wreck site.

Max container size is of course 24 SCU, so with manual loading, I wouldn't really want to do a beryl run in a C2 size ship. (I thought there was supposed to be a commodity rebalance that was going to change all this, but I guess it didn't happen. And as far as I know you still can't buy commodities at DCs.)

[tall karma]

You could ATLS load a C2 well enough.

It's just riskier to manually load / unload at an exposed site.

[coarse ember]

if i was home i'd offer to give you my atls and i just claim it again but not gonna be home until like 4-5hours from now

[leaden monolith]

Today I was unloading a C2 with an ATLS and ran into a couple of problems. It had been stored aboard and when I entered it the tractor worked but it wouldn't move. Getting out and moving it a little with the Maxlift got it working. Then on the last 3 x 32 scu crates it stopped moving, got the boxes stuck on the ships grid and the tractor beam was permanently on. Only way to fix was get out and use the Maxlift on it again.

I'll move boxes to the bottom of the ramp with it but prefer the Maxlift for loading. Unloading it's great (minus the problems).

[merry prism]

found a box of ship ammunition. Ive never seen this before what do I do with this.

[coarse ember]

It's part of someone's hauling mission but chances are the elevator was broken

[sweet grail]

All u gotta do is get back on it and it will work/move, no need to move it with maxlift

[leaden monolith]

I didn't mention that in my post but I did get in and out of it several times without success. I just figured it was a new feature 🙂

[torpid garden]

Has anyone been able to get the elevators in Brio or any other to work? every time I go there is loading and it never works?

[pearl juniper]

they have been mostly broken for a while.

supposed to be hot fixes coming for it, but I haven't heard much in a few days on the subject.

[torpid garden]

the detail is that I have 108 scu of gasping and I have not been able to sell it because of the elevator issue, then the Upgrade is coming and I will lose it

[pearl juniper]

yep. it's a bummer. I have about 40 of the same stashed at GH. Keep checking, but so far no luck.

[cloud robin]

Give em to me

I'll pay you 1m for it

[grand trellis]

why

why is it not working

[wraith ice]

whats yall fav ship for cargo

[cloud robin]

Oh definetly C2, it's expensive tho

[mild pumice]

Server probably lagged during the transaction

[grand trellis]

evrey time i tried it 7 times

[tawdry light]

Where do I sell commodities in Lorville? Business District?

[floral copper]

The only issue I am having with my Gasping eggs is that the 24 SCU boxes wont snap on the elevator. I've found elevators that take the 8 SCU boxes, but not 16/24 because of the glitches.

I have like 140 SCU of eggs right now

[plucky pine]

How do I get landing clearance at a mining outpost on a planet? If I have a small ship andd there aren't any small pads, I can't land there?

[somber bay]

You don’t need clearance

For pads you just land on them