industrial-professions

[brave lark]

now its just a constant string of disappointment

[north oyster]

I may have mispoke, because I focus primarily on cargo trading. But I do recall that they do want to offer the autoload option for those who do the cargo hauling game loop. So that is coming if not already implemented

[sharp swift]

New reason to appreciate ship-based tractor beams: armistice zones. Went to a planet-side place and didn't realize I couldn't use my hand-helds

Kinda annoying that that is even a thing tbh

[digital echo]

My handheld tractors work at planetary outposts?

[mild pumice]

They work on pads only

[digital echo]

Oh, are they THAT specific with how and when they work?

[blissful yacht]

i took all the extra small cargos from bajini to area18 and still have room for another

at 13k a piece i got 7 of them

early game in cutlass is easy

[mild pumice]

There's a couple of DCs that are bugged, the tractor doesn't work near the freight elevator but does on the pad which is a bit too far away (something to do with the armistice zone I think) otherwise they work perfectly at most DCs

[sharp swift]

Yeah I got to the elevator and went click click "wtf?, ahhhh"

[mild pumice]

Yeah pads and hangars and then outside armistice

[mild pumice]

Was it gretcat production A on Microtech?

[sharp swift]

Which is a little problematic if you get the SCU crate bug where you need to get at them from the right angle/side.

[sharp swift]

Lol yeah actually

[mild pumice]

Yeah it's a bug, I reported it on IC

[north oyster]

Appreciate all IC reports!

[mild pumice]

Workaround is to request a hangar

[sharp swift]

From there?

Huh

[mild pumice]

Yeah DCs have hangers you can dock and load in private, useful for the bigger jobs

[sharp swift]

Good to know. I've only been to a few and the first one I tried requesting a hangar and never got one so I figured it wasn't a thing. Though the numerous abandoned ships around it probably meant it was bugged

[mild pumice]

The others I think are all OK

[sharp swift]

Has anyone tried boosting their friend's rep with higher contracts?

I'm gonna see how much my friend with zero progress in hauling for a member contract later tonight. Should be interesting to see how much he gets even if it's split between the two of us

[digital echo]

Can't you also unload on the pads outside, I thought?

Never tried it, so idk

[toxic citrus]

I don't think so

[tropic barn]

does hull c docking port bugged

i don't get it

[mild pumice]

Yeah sometimes it doesn't extend

You can still dock to the invisible bit but obviously you can't access the station

[brave lark]

Am I the only one who things the 300Is cargo hold is really awkward to load? Just tried to load it and it refused to accept a container in a spot where i could have put a container

[mild pumice]

No, it's very tight to load, it's been this way since cargo was physicalised but the new patch exposes it more

[brave lark]

Any advice?

Because it is really annoying sometimes

[mild pumice]

Use another ship tbh

I know that's not what you want to hear...

[brave lark]

No it's what I want to hear

I don't want you to lie

[spare cloud]

Titan

[mild pumice]

A lot of ships need a pass really, Carrack is a really good example, totally useless cargo pods

[brave lark]

I would get a Titan but the 300 series just looks better

[spare cloud]

Wdym totally useless ? You can absolutely load 450 SCU in boxes of two through the middle doors

[spare cloud]

If it's about looks I can't help you
But rn, 300 series ships are only nerfed Titans that look fancy

Except 315p, has unique stuff

Tractor beam and more cargo space

[mild pumice]

The best advice I can give is to get a video or some screenshots and there's feedback threads on spectrum, one for vehicles I believe and cargo, make a contribution and hopefully the devs pick it up, you can also check IC for any reports to update

[brave lark]

I knew when I got the 300i the titan was the better option so it's not like I'm unaware of that fact

[brave lark]

I might at some point

[mild pumice]

300i was the first ship I bought in game back when I stated playing

I have a 325a at the moment that seems to load OK but it's only 4scu, good for a loot box.

[brave lark]

At some point I want to get a better cargo ship anyway for when I need to transport stuff from the refinery

[green falcon]

my favourite of the starters is the cutter tbh

fat as hell but one hell of a small hauler

[mild pumice]

The Hull A is super easy to load/unload, for more security/capacity the C1 or Maxlancer are a good option. If you want even more capacity I can recommend the Constellation Taurus it seems perfectly designed for the current cargo loops and the tractor beam is well placed. I personally use my C1 and Corsair mostly

[brave lark]

I do like the hull A

[quartz summit]

19K for a maxlift ?!

[mild pumice]

free if you pull it off a cold dead corpse

[quartz summit]

damn that's expensive

[brave lark]

19k what

gold bars?

[quartz summit]

a Maxlift

[brave lark]

Yeah what's a maxlift

[mild pumice]

the 2 handed tractor beam for moving big boxes

[short swallow]

despite this, shit still doesn't work on the ptu

classic cig

[pallid marten]

is trading fixed

[mild pumice]

this isn't bad for 20 mins work

[coarse cape]

Be cool if the price was based on distance and commodity price

[mild pumice]

yeah I hope we get some extra missions like time based, high value cargo with risk of pirate attacks, that sorta thing

[coarse cape]

Yeah

One day

[somber bay]

We really do need ultra high value low quantity cargo

Like computer chips or something

[rose forge]

I put a box on my friend and it disapeared, now he is REALLY slow

[loud spade]

As far as the new update goes, how is the Hull-C integrated into the new system if at all? I got one a while ago be havent played yet

For reference my only two pledged ships are the avenger titan and hull c so not a diverse set

[somber bay]

It is supposed to be workable with hauling contracts but is bugged

[loud spade]

Does anyone have a decent split of ships I should grab instead if I exchange?

[somber bay]

It depends on your melt value but you may want to just hold onto it

It is still good for trading if buggy

[loud spade]

$500 USD

[somber bay]

Idk ship prices but hull a and caterpillar might work

[loud spade]

This would be a good time to mention I dispise drake

[somber bay]

There’s not too many other large haulers

The RAFT is good but not that big

[loud spade]

Is the C2 or anything 150+ up for sale right now?

[mild pumice]

All the cargo ships pretty much on sale now, the C2 also has a Warbond CCU if you want to save a little bit.

[coarse cape]

so is anyone else getting their old contracted cargo staying in the elevator

[brisk rock]

Can you do auto loading with the hauling missions or are they all manual loading? If so how?

[coarse cape]

think only manual

[knotty dove]

ATLS Mech Suit is nuts guys

[brisk rock]

Where’d you get it?

[knotty dove]

only EVOs get it to test in 3.24.1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJXs0mkeEyI

maxlift is officialy dead

[tall karma]

It feels like the tractor tech demo'd should be applied to all tractor tools but downside of slower movement and less lift ability

[outer ridge]

Not to handheld imo, but def to ship tractors

[knotty dove]

It will be great addition for ironclad just keep 1 or 2 in garage

[mild pumice]

not far to go!

probably a dozen missions.... 3/hr should reach the next rank today/tomorrow 😄

[empty kite]

anyone know why I can't get recycled materials from pyro jump point?

[trail spoke]

i heard the carrack cargo bay doesnt work, is that true?

[brave lark]

Does it normally take a while to process an order when selling stuff at the TDD

[hollow latch]

how much do you get per mission now?

[knotty dove]

me trying to get Hull C hauling to work

[mild pumice]

@homicidalrabbits scroll up I posted 1 screenshot

[lusty cypress]

the cargo grid works, the problem is that you can't get things in and out of the cargo bay. so you are forced to autoload each time

[mild pumice]

Only for automatic loading/unloading as they don't open, however at the moment some people are reporting that's also having issues

I'm thinking of buying a Caterpillar in game seems like a good choice for multi drop delivery by splitting cargo

[hollow sedge]

Been having this same thought myself!

Could put an ATLS in the front compartment as well

[unborn oxide]

Anyone knows the weight limit of the Argo MPUV? I load about 6 SCU and it just starts falling from the sky

[neat light]

Is Cargo working? Sorry, everytime I goto SMO-18 or other place, and interact with the freight elevator, the freight elevator has an error. Is this normal? Does it work on some server and if so, whats the % chance it works? So far, its 90% for me and all the patch notes seems to be addressing cargo missions and not cargro freight elevators

[loud mural]

So far i found that the nomad was the most practical ship to do hauling

[upbeat stream]

hul - cworking?

[loud mural]

Haven't tried it but i don't think i'm risking anything by saying it's still broken

[latent drift]

Freight elevators have been working pretty reliably for me (knocking on wood as I finish another delivery)

[visual prairie]

It’s very easy I just wish it had more space

[mild pumice]

The high traffic areas with high value commodities seem to be the ones that are commonly affected, FEs at stations and DCs seem to be reliable.

[teal stream]

congrats!

[mild pumice]

Still a way to go to the next one... but making progress

I think it's senior > master left

[knotty dove]

i stopped even carring i do 3-5 hauling missions and as long as i make money each mission im happy

[mild pumice]

Yeah the rep will come. I'm doing about 3 a session too it's not too bad.

[upbeat stream]

hull a worth it for ingame? really using for rmco hauling for vulture

[mild pumice]

Yeah Hull A is great for medium local delivery

[upbeat stream]

raft any better? know it has bugs

[mild pumice]

Raft has 96vs 64 capacity it's a lot more sturdy, it currently lacks an operational tractor beam and the claws don't retract which makes attaching larger boxes a bit difficult but it's still a decent ship. I particularly like the interior, it's really well designed

[brave lark]

Is it possible to turn off the markers while using a ships tractor beam because they make it really difficult to see crates if you have lots of 1scu crates

[brave lark]

It's also now refusing to pick up crates even though its in range

[brittle kraken]

Are the boxes at the back of the lift? Sometimes you have to get really close to the ones at the back to pick them up for some reason.

[sharp swift]

You gotta use a hand-held tractor from a side/different angle

[brave lark]

Learnt that the hard way

[brave lark]

I did use it in the end but it eventually started working with the c1 tractor again

[shrewd pasture]

I don't suppose there's any fix to a cargo elevator being stuck on "transfering to warehouse"

[split goblet]

anyone have the ATLS suit that they can show off to me?

[mild pumice]

No, it's probably broken on that shard until it 30k eventually, can you use another?

[shrewd pasture]

sadly it's arccorp 157, so only one eleveator/pad

how badly does the rep get punished for abandoning cargo missions?

[mild pumice]

Sux, I'm seeing at least 1 broken now more and more as it's getting better, they need to add a failsafe when the location streams in/out

[brave lark]

I've been doing some hauling missions and I think I'm starting to understand them but I do want some advice.

It's hard to find several missions where you pick up all of them from one station and then take them all to the same destination.

[mild pumice]

Sometimes not at all, if you've partition complete the mission just hit submit

You get part of the reward

[brave lark]

Is there a different way that's better?

I did try setting up missions so it works as a route which worked well but it is a bit of a headache to set up but it is somewhat fun still

[mild pumice]

The missions change per rank but I've found loops/stacks at all levels and routes, you've just gotta look at them all and keep a mental note which match up, try other locations too as they can have better offering for your current rank

[brave lark]

Ok cool

I'll have a look around

Mainly been flying around arccoro atm

[charred spire]

asops bugged?

[brave lark]

Would it be worth renting a taurus for this as it has roughly 2.5x the capacity of my c1

[charred spire]

asops broken rn ???

[brave lark]

Yh

[mild pumice]

there's more choice at Hurston and Microtech due to the Distribution Centers

[brave lark]

Ok cool

[mild pumice]

@brave lark here's an example of 3 missions I'm doing now that link up, I'm at PT now and I have two sets of deliveries to 4 locations and pickups as well that I can bring back:

this should take me around an hour I guess

I don't worry about the credits I just want the rep

[brave lark]

I want both as I'm poor atm

I'll make my way to MT that's where my residence is anyway

[potent plaza]

any way of knowing just how much rep certain missions give or is it all random?

[mild pumice]

it seems to be the same as long as the mission you do is = to your rep, if you do lower rank missions it gives a fraction

I've tested small>medium>large as far as I can tell it's the same

[teal stream]

I haved had to abandoned 17 haul mission, didnt hurt my rep

[brave lark]

Would it be worth renting a bigger ship though for the higher cargo missions

[mild pumice]

LMAO

[wheat moss]

Meh, it's kinda random, I abandoned 9 mission without issue, but abandoning 2 made me lost from junior to negative inexperienced

[teal stream]

lmao

[mild pumice]

sure if the pay vs time makes sense

[brave lark]

It might later on but it won't atm

Renting a taurus means 80% of my money gone

[potent plaza]

lets say im doing a rookie mission. i seen missions to deliver 100+ SCU and ones for 7 SCU. would the 100+ one give me more rep compared to the 7 SCu delivery?

[teal stream]

with all these tractorbeam and scroll movements, my hands started hurting, what ergonimics are you all using for hauling?

[brave lark]

What do you mean?

[mild pumice]

not in my experience

[mild pumice]

same I can do 3 missions then I need a break, maybe some salvage, etc. Looking forward to the mechsuit

[brave lark]

The 100+ scu missions aren't really worth doing if those missions are all you can fit in your cargo hold

[mild pumice]

what ship you have now? how about a Hull A or Raft? I'm stacking these 3 missions in a Hull A

[teal stream]

like are you using a special mouse, joystick or anything else that your doing that reduces fatigue with all this tractor beam movements

[brave lark]

I did quite a few missions today and my hands didn't hurt once but the c1 tractor beam is a lot faster for pulling stuff to the ship than a handheld beam

You could bind the tractor beam distance to a pair of buttons so you only have to press them

[teal stream]

thats a good idea to try

[teal stream]

I'm already pressing left alt if I use ship tractor beam. probably fun to bind the into a pair of pedals

[brave lark]

It was years ago but I once saw that you could get a mouse where the scroll wheel can be set to roll freely instead of moving in increments so those would probably be better for the tractor beam distance control

[teal stream]

Ill look into this. might be worth checking out

[pearl juniper]

You don't have to scroll constantly. Scroll a little to set it in motion, it will keep going till you scroll the other way.

[mild pumice]

good to know

[pearl juniper]

You are far better off doing four small missions at the same time (if you can get multiples to the same destinations) vs one big one

[whole phoenix]

So which ships currently have the chance of blowing up because of a random box going under the cargo grid?

[mild pumice]

Any and all I'd say but so far just my C2 has exploded

[whole phoenix]

Well, because I just had a Taurus blow up because of that

[mild pumice]

Yeah I think it can happen to any ship tbh.

I've ran over 100 missions now and just one occurrence using multiple ships (C1, RAFT, MSR, C2, Corsair, Hull A, Nomad) so it's uncommon thankfully

I used a Taurus in PTU but I don't have one in Live. I do have a Phoenix but there's no snapping grid so I've not used it although it should fit 96scu

[vestal ravine]

I unloaded CMat cargo crates from the ship down into the warehouse but it can't find them to sell. Do we have to sell only when it's On the actual elevator grid?

[mild pumice]

No it should just be stored locally and available on the location's drop down to sell

[vestal ravine]

I selected "New Babbage" no sign of them.

[mild pumice]

As long as you're at a location that buys the commodity and the correct terminal to sell at

[vestal ravine]

At New Babbage Planetary Services

[mild pumice]

You're at the admin terminal right?

Hmm. Try a relog, my weapons box I sent down didn't show up until after I relogged, worth a try.

You did definitely send the elevator down? 100% sure?

Otherwise go back and check

[vestal ravine]

I was looking at it and can see the crates in the warehose view.

I will relog...

[teal stream]

this doesnt work, it eventually stops

[mild pumice]

@vestal ravine any luck?

[pearl juniper]

Maybe eventually, but I haven't noticed any significant slowdown in the time it takes to get cargo from a ship to the elevator

[stable comet]

anyone else having a problem with their hanger doors not opening

[mild pumice]

@stable comet nope not since PTU

[stable comet]

doors arnt opening for me on most the stations

[coarse ember]

when thatr happens usually i just spam alt + n to open the doors until i see gateway granted text and door start opening

[nova plank]

You can also buy a random item at a shop (not quick buy), and it will force update your inventory.

So like buy a drink or something. xD

[dull crater]

How does one use the caterpillar tractor beam

[nova plank]

Make sure you're not NAV mode, but in SCM mode

[dull crater]

perfect thank you

i was told there was 2 tractor beams

is this true

[somber bay]

yes

one bottom deck of command pod one at the other thing

[vestal ravine]

Just checked no changes...and I brought up 1 crate to pad level Commodity Terminal not see it to sell.

[whole phoenix]

So tested again a couple of loads-unloads with the C1 and Taurus, and seems like the Constellations overall are having many issues with boxes clipping through the grid

Running a Taurus should be taken with extreme care and only with large boxes since a single clipping will wreck the ship

[rose forge]

has anyone had the issue where a piece of cargo snaps to a person, and makes them unable to walk?

[errant kiln]

Cant sell heph….whatever it’s called at A18, I’ve tried many servers and it just won’t work. I think it’s just a bug rn

[cursive wagon]

anyone at rank 6 or 7 with rep yet? if so highest cargo mission payout?

[knotty dove]

i heard its around 100k

[naive brook]

I keep havin issues with my Hull C with cargo 😐 sometimes the cargo arms wont unfold. Really need to get a new ship XD

[mild pumice]

Hull C are definitely the Alfa Romeo of spaceships lol

[clever ore]

Question about the Raft:
How large is the biggest box that can fit in one of the three cargo spaces? Because I tried the largest I could buy, I think it was 24, but there was still space on the egde for more. Is it possible to buy a box this large as the original box of the raft, which was removed?

[mild pumice]

32 will fit but you have to insert it vertically or something, it was a pain tbh they really need to remove the claws or make the extend/open.

you'd be better off buying 16s as they will fit 2 per row, so 6 it total, with the 24s you will 3x 24 and 3x 8

nb. don't buy 32s at ground outposts, they wont fit in the freight elevator

[near swallow]

Raft was originally designed for 32 SCU containers.

[hollow sedge]

x3 32's will fit across the container bay, port to starboard direction

[tender gate]

i have a question for the Hauling misssions.
do i get more exp the more Crates i haul or is every mission on the same rank with the same Rep ?

[teal stream]

hows your rep @mild pumice

[mild pumice]

It appears to be the same rep for small > medium > large, more rep is given as the rank increases so it's almost pointless doing any missions of a lower ranking

[mild pumice]

I'll be dropping 3 missions off in a minute hopefully within touching distance of Senior afterwards!

[tender gate]

so it doesnt matter if i do an 1200 scu experienced mission or if i do an 300 scu experienced one?

[mild pumice]

No as far as I can tell so I'm just doing the small ones tbh

[tender gate]

good to know thank you very much

[mild pumice]

I will do the occasional large interstellar but I find that I could do 2 or 3 small missions in the same time

[teal stream]

which planet do you ussualy do your small mission @mild pumice
I do my small in hurston

[tender gate]

Are there small Experienced missions? i cant find any

[mild pumice]

Microtech or Hurston I switch it up, DCs are more reliable than outposts so I generally avoid those unless I want to combine looting

[mild pumice]

Yeah quite a few, this is my little loop I've been doing:

takes about 1hr ish - make sure you use a fast QD and I use the Hull A as it has 10,000 QT Fuel

There's quite a few nice local ones at Hurston too that go to 3 DCs, again you can combine a waste pickup mission usually

The local ones are definitely more efficient but these long travel ones are good for browsing discord lol

[loud mural]

I feel like these could be done and farmed super fast with 4 people in 4 different ships

Ig you buy a bunch of hull a and take lots of missions

[outer ridge]

Was almost experienced, cancelled one mission bc i had to go, im back to rookie now

worst bug so far

[mild pumice]

@teal stream2 more (missions) to go I think...

[mild pumice]

that's shit 😦

[outer ridge]

Really is 😦 you do know how long it takes to get rep

[mild pumice]

yeah it's around 30 missions for Member 😦

[outer ridge]

i did make a support ticket since usually bugs dont take like 14 hours of work away so hopefully... 🤞

[teal stream]

sooo excited for you!!

[mild pumice]

I'm heading back to Hurston for the last 2 missions. I guess I could've done one more loop lol but it was time for a change of scenery

I'll probably log off and never play again after I reach master rank

[teal stream]

lmaoo

[teal stream]

I'm soo jealous of those who get to grind with the ATLS, its just point and click

[mild pumice]

Hopefully they make it available to all and just the cosmetics will be pledges. We'll see

[teal stream]

how many was your estimated mission to complete experienced @mild pumice

[mild pumice]

maybe 40 it seemed like more than member but not massively

[forest swift]

I'm trying to make some calculations but I can't for the life of me find the cost of QT fuel. Could anyone point me in the right direction?

[teal stream]

phew thats alot more

you said 25 for member right?

[mild pumice]

it was about 25-30 member I think so 25%-33% more I guess

I expect the next rank will be 50 or something

[teal stream]

ohhh gotcha

[mild pumice]

lol this 890 was here yesterday

Someone flexing running cargo in their 890 lol

So many abandoned ships at the outposts lol. Again recognise them from yesterday, there really should be a cleanup on these!

[teal stream]

I hope theres a salvage mission to provide incentive to clean these up

[mild pumice]

Yeah remove abandoned ships from xxx would be a great mission

Some have blocked pads/freight elevators so need moving but with shield up you can't do anything I think

[visual night]

QT fuel is usually a rounding error on my wallet, relatively inexpensive. You can see the price on the Landing tab in Mobiglass.

Uexcorp or trade tools might have a route planner that approximates fuel cost?

[mild pumice]

@teal stream 2 small missions got me over the line:

[teal stream]

lets gooooooooooo!!!!

[teal stream]

congrats!!!! @mild pumice

[mild pumice]

example mission - looks good:

interestingly I don't see any locals at Hurston, will check MT later after lunch 🙂

wait I now have almost 180 missions 😄

[hollow sedge]

they really need two filter toggles, one to show only missions in the planet region you're in, and only show missions at your current rank or higher

[mild pumice]

yeah I just gave my feedback at last on Spectrum now I have made some progress!

[forest swift]

I couldn’t find it on these sites. And I can’t play the game rn which doesn’t keep me from speculating. With C2 as a base, I was wondering if there would ever be a reason to consider anything other than a military drive for travel. Basically meaning time spent vs qt fuel spent (which has a cost attached) which right now according to you seems to be negligible. I guess as the game progresses (ie longer ranges) and the economy changes, it might.

[teal stream]

oh wow senior is already 100k

[visual night]

Yeah right now, TS-2 and XL-1 seem to be the best even if they're not the most efficient. Fuel cost is so low that the time is more of a factor, and the C2 has a big enough tank to cross Stanton at least twice in it

I'll check fuel prices right now if I can get seraphim to assign me a hangar

[teal stream]

oh boy my poor hands with those hundreds of scu

[forest swift]

On this short a range, the 1 minute you seem to win between civ and mil drives don’t bother me too much (using erkul), but over multiple systems without stopping that kinda becomes hours. At that point you run your tank dry but at least you win an hour, then it’s something to think about 😅 thx for the effort

[visual night]

from seraphim, after relogging and jumping there from inside Stanton. About 1200 aUEC per 1 SCU, but actual refill quantity is tiny

[lyric tusk]

Will a Medivac fit in the Caterpillar?

[forest swift]

Wow, I thought rounding error was probs a bit exaggerated but yh, that is tiny. Ty!

[hollow sedge]

Here's FoxyLoxy demo'ing https://youtu.be/nN7rX3E9If8?feature=shared&t=658

Video starts at the Cat with that link

[umbral ember]

what are the cargo loading times for the c2?

696 scu

[knotty dove]

depends how good are you for first time dont be suprised if it takes 20min to do it

[umbral ember]

sorry

I forgot to elaborate

AUTO loading

the Trailer shows 5 hours..

[teal stream]

are you making a utility @umbral ember

[umbral ember]

utility?

[teal stream]

trading calculator?

[umbral ember]

nono

I want to judge how long my trade runs would take

[teal stream]

oh nvm it was the other one asking how how to calculate fuel

[near swallow]

Probably a lot better then that, if it actually works, which is the real question

A little note too: Auto loading/unloading isn't yet available for hauling missions and isn't available at places without a hangar.

[umbral ember]

oh.. so I can only do station to station trades?

[near swallow]

If you don't want to do manual loading, you could go to stations, cities, and DCs.

Except DCs don't sell anything yet

[brave lark]

Where do you buy commodities because I went to the TDD and they only had scrap and waste

[near swallow]

TDD is where you sell, where you buy depends on what you want to buy. And I'm not totally sure if any buy locations have changed or if prices have changed.

Prior to 3.24 I've used https://uexcorp.space/ for commodity trading. I haven't tried it in 3.24 though so I don't know how up-to-date it's info is.

[tall vigil]

Have they fixed the Connie's issue with cargo boxes glitching through the bottom and blowing up the ship?

[hollow sedge]

is the outpost hanger infinite loop still there?

[lime vessel]

yes

[hollow sedge]

of course daymar brios breaker yard cargo hauling is fucked

what did i expect

dont go to brios...

[outer ridge]

try to avoid planet side hauling for now

[umbral ember]

best trade route? c2

the "meta"

[vestal ravine]

I brought rmc to new Babbage it saw the cargo on ship stated the selling amount but once down the hanger lift did not pay out. My team member landed the ship the hanger had his name on it. Also have not been paid for cmat from last night. What's going on?

[hollow latch]

I don't know but i mysteriously got a large donation of cash while hanging out in these random people's hangar last night while doing very legal activities

[eternal vapor]

is there a way to fix the cargo terminals that will infinitely say loading content and transferring to warehouse?

[vestal ravine]

That's weird. I know my crates are still in the warehouse.

[upbeat stream]

any whispers of hull c being fixed anytime soon?

[daring horizon]

So, logged off when i had 2 hauling contracts open. I couldnt finish them. Contracts are abandoned but i still have contracted cargo boxes? how do i get rid of them? sell somewhere? or is this a bug

[mild pumice]

If you don't complete the missions you're now the proud owner of stolen cargo, just yeet it to the void. You can possibly sell it to NQA terminals but it's likely of such low value it's not worth the effort.

[light hemlock]

Tractor beam in Taurus is not working what to do?

[daring horizon]

not to insult you but have you turned in on from inside the turret? i didnt know that for the longest time

not just a keybinf but actually holding F and looking for the button

[light hemlock]

its on

but laser is not pointing

[daring horizon]

hmm. could be keybind then? i just got the mpuv tractor and had to go hunting for the keybind. Its under vehicles salvage and then it has the tractor beam keybind you can set

[charred spire]

trying to spawn reclaimer on seraphim? we are unable to process your request at this time

[coarse ember]

reclaimer can only be spawned at cities

[mild pumice]

you can't there's no Hangars big enough, must spawn at an LZ

the message needs to be better tbh

[charred spire]

LZ ?

[mild pumice]

It shouldn't even show on the ASOP so they must have changed something, or it's a bug (LZ = Landing Zone (aka City))

The only other place that has XL hangars is Grim Hex that's not on a planet

[charred spire]

k thx

[frank warren]

Can't a reclaimer also be spawned at Grim?

[spare cloud]

It can

[frank warren]

Wish there was at least 1 more station that had XL hangers >_<

[mild pumice]

Yep I did add that after

Hopefully they sort out the docking ports at some point

is the front tractor beam on the MPUV fixed?

I don't seem to me able to move the beam, do you have literally move the ship?

[frank warren]

That is a tractor beam UI

Oh

Ignore me

[mild pumice]

yeah but can I not move the beam? is it fixed forward fire?

[frank warren]

I read that wrong

[mild pumice]

the rear beam is a remote turret

[frank warren]

Thought you asked if that was the tractor beam

Never used MPUV before

[mild pumice]

it just seems off that you can't control the tractor beam direction unless I'm doing something wrong

yeah I guess it just fixes the box in front of you:

I tried 'G' so see if it's the same as the scraper arms, it does 'unlock' a padlock but does not seem to do anything

it looks like it should tilt and rotate:

[frank warren]

Yeah it does look like it

I need to get one to test it out

[left python]

Is Hull A considered an upgrade to Nomad? my nomad is broken (destroyed, cant be claimed) and i thought i could take the opportunity to upgrade to a Hull A instead, since i enjoy hauling

[mild pumice]

I think it is supposed to be 'G' to unlock it but it seems bugged or I'm still doing something wrong!

[teal stream]

i thought it was fixed in front. the back TB moves though

[mild pumice]

Hull A has been a really great ship for the hauling missions yeah, I've used it a lot. However I'd really want to keep a ship like the Nomad in game it has so many more uses whereas the Hull A is just Cargo

[left python]

Yeah make sense. I'll just keep it and hope they fix that destroyed state soon TM

[mild pumice]

The Hull A is pretty cheap in game, 1.5m

[left python]

problem is, I have 40k 😄

i wanted to do salvage to make $$ but elevator bug is driving me nuts

selling to TDD is a hit or miss

[mild pumice]

you can rent the Hull A to try it out. You should make your money back easy enough

[left python]

oh nice, i didnt know i could rent it

[mild pumice]

yeah they added the Hull A, RAFT and Taurus as well as some others

[charred spire]

where do i check tar pits rep?

[mild pumice]

some of the mission givers don't have a rep system

if it's not showing under 'Rep' tab that's likley one that does not.

[charred spire]

does the rep still matter or is it just not showing up

[mild pumice]

I mean it literally does not exist for some mission givers

[tulip folio]

soooo why cant you sell 32 scu boxes

literly just got 2, 32 scu boxes of weevil eggs

[spare cloud]

Because they didn't think about it

[teal stream]

hows the senior rank so far @mild pumice

[mild pumice]

It seems to be mostly medium multi drop solar jobs, they pay around 110-120k but it's a lot of cargo 300-400scu x16

I didn't have it in me to do any today, maybe tomorrow! I was salvaging instead this evening.

I didn't see any local deliveries and only a couple of planetary medium jobs.

[teal stream]

even on MT? it sucks cause thats A LOT

[mild pumice]

Nope no Senior Local at Hurston or Microtech

There's also the large Hull C ones and they pay 100k instead of the 80k from experienced

Most are pickup from a Legrange Point and drop to 3 or 4 LEOs.

[teal stream]

experienced has hull C?

[mild pumice]

Yes but they don't work AFAIK

[teal stream]

lmao

[rotund silo]

Any solution for not being able to sell cargo? I've tried moving it into station storage using the freight elevator (then using the kiosk to confirm it is in station inventory), and I've tried leaving it in my ship and storing it, but the TDD and Admin kiosks all say I don't have anything to sell. Is there some extra steps I'm missing? Character reset? Inform CIG?

[cursive mural]

Is moving these boxes 1 by 1 part of the grind or is there an auto load that I am missing? I’ve seen tons of things looking online but some say it’s broken right now?

[rotund silo]

Part of the grind as far as I know

[cursive mural]

I figured…Does the “heavy tractor beam” make things easier? Or is that just for ships and regular is best for our use case

[mild pumice]

I've not encountered any issues selling, everything I've sent down the cargo elevator has been there ready for me to sell at TDD (just to check you are selecting the correct option from the drop down?)

[mild pumice]

For haulage missions yes, it's intended for you to move the boxes manually. For trading you can setup buy and sell orders with automatic loading/unloading however there are some issues that players are reporting such as transactions failing.

[visual night]

Definitely get a max lift, or use a C1/Nomad/etc tractor turret

[rotund silo]

Yeah, it has both my ship and station inventory as an option, so I've tried both ways and the list is always completely empty

[visual night]

Try buying something. Otherwise try relogging and see if it can sell after

[mild pumice]

not sure what elese to suggest other than to get some evidence and update any ICs, looks like we might be getting a .1 soon ish so hopefully they fix it

[rotund silo]

Relogged, restarted and verified files several times, no good. I'll try buying something though

Thanks all

[mild pumice]

good luck

I'm off to PTU to try out the mech suit lol since it's open to all backers now

hopefully I still have my haulage rep 😄

[signal skiff]

Has the hull c been fixed with this recent cargo update?

[tall vigil]

Maxlift has way more range.

[mild pumice]

game changer!

[teal stream]

cant wait!!!

[left python]

Let us drive fork lift!

[mild pumice]

makes light work loading the C2 but a bit tricky to stack the second row high and easier to load from the rear!

21 x 16 took a <5 mins 🙂

[fierce grove]

Anyone experienced commodity terminals listing a buy price but then actually paying 0?

[mild pumice]

no can't say I have sorry but I've only sold RMC

[fierce grove]

Interesting, I have a friend trying to sell med supplies, but is seeing this

[mild pumice]

wait I saw that in PTU when there was no demand, the sale didn't go through

[fierce grove]

Interesting, so it says its in demand even when it isn't?

[mild pumice]

IIRC from PTU you could force the amount up even when there was no demand but it would show 0 as the sell price, pressing sell did nothing

[left python]

Would be great to be able to sort hauling contract by distance etc. A bit like ETS😅

[mild pumice]

well the Atlas is great for quickly moving boxes but it does have issues with stacking or fitting boxes into gaps!

[teal stream]

hybrid with maxlift prob perfect combo

[rotund silo]

This is what it shows. I'll try buying something, then I'll try moving some argo back into my C1 and storing it again, and if still doesn't work I'll try to track down recent IC reports and add these to that

[teal stream]

completed 6 Member missions in around 2 hours on a caterpillar. anyone have better time? whats your route/ship/strategy

[vocal rain]

can i really not sell 8scu boxes in the new babbage comodities...

[faint river]

I wish the freight elevators would work in SMO 18. I have over 400 SCU of Gold sleeping there

[frank warren]

You should

[vocal rain]

yea im just dumdum

was trying at the admin center

not tdd xD

for ore

[daring horizon]

Anyone with the MPUV Tractor notice the remote turret beam gets all idk how to describe it but like fuzzy or something with the view. Like when I use it and try to move something I can’t see cause everything almost like out of focus. Bug?

[frank warren]

Still find it dumb that RMC is TDD but CM is Admin

[coarse ember]

fr tho, like you would imagine "hmm both these places take salvage able material so i should be able to sell both in one go" but nah ig they needed another use for admin other than buying some commodities

[digital echo]

I personally think the TDD should handle private trading, and Admin should be for auto loading and unloading of commodities for cargo missions. Would give both a use, while not making them inconvenient.

[light hemlock]

Hi

In taurus tractor bean is buggy

[light hemlock]

Anyone?

[hollow latch]

Are you going to elaborate on what buggy means?

[light hemlock]

The laser isn't grabbing boxes,

laser is pointing in different direction rather than straight

I put my ship in SCM and NAV mode still not working

[teal stream]

finally @mild pumice

[wheat moss]

Try recalling it, sometimes it repairs certain special systems

[mild pumice]

@teal stream nice job!

[mild pumice]

Tbh 20min a mission is decent

That was the route I used to do as well.

[teal stream]

I tried another 6 mission but this time not catterpillar, just c1 multiple round trips in PT
its faster to do it in c1 then caterpillar even if I didnt have to go back to station with caterpillar
around 1:30 mins

prob cause only 3 stops in MT

[mild pumice]

Oh yeah that was my route not the other, I used C1 as well

[teal stream]

oh very niceeee

[mild pumice]

Still both good ways to stack up missions, I didn't find as good routes for experienced, let me know if you do.

[teal stream]

which routes did you take for experienced?

[mild pumice]

I did the small solar to the Mic L1/2/3/4/5 two delivery/one collection so 3 missions, there was a 4th but it was the same cargo as one of the others so didn't want to get mixed up. Loop takes around 1hr in a Hull A with fast QD

Hull A has 10k QT fuel so no need to refuel during, fast QD needed for the 70+MM sections. Port Tressler sell the Mil B QD (same speed as C1)

No atmospheric delivery so ideal.

[teal stream]

that is very helpful to know! thank you @mild pumice

[mild pumice]

here @teal stream

I took the route in a circle, L1>L4>L3>L5>L2 and back to PT combining drop/pickup as needed.

as you can see you have two very long jumps:

[teal stream]

seems like a lot to keep track. do write stuff down? or you just take the mission one at a time on arrival

[mild pumice]

Good for grabbing a coffee or tanking a sh...

[teal stream]

specially not mixing stuff up

[mild pumice]

I just tracked 1 mission and noted the amount of the other delivery and which locations and which were a collection although you will see your cargo to pickup when you send the FE down!

[teal stream]

i see, with size 1 drive you have a lot of downtime. but pretty chill loop

[mild pumice]

as long as you use the Mil B drive it's 7min for the long jumps

[teal stream]

i see so you write down the amount of the other delivery. thats how you keep track to avoid mixing them?

[mild pumice]

The same I guess as you did with the other ones?

[teal stream]

gotcha gotcha thank you!

[mild pumice]

If you find any other loops I'd be interested to know

[teal stream]

I will! thinking about logistics is so much fun

[craggy tapir]

in what time does the demand change?

[spare cloud]

Every 5-10 minutes or so

[craggy tapir]

really?

i waited like 1.5h at orision for beryl demand

[spare cloud]

It's only a small refresh everytime, takes multiple refresh for a full restock

If other people are selling at the same time, you gotta be the fastest to sell after a refresh

[craggy tapir]

i was the only one at orision

i had like 9 refreshes
they took like everything

except beryl

[mild pumice]

thing is people can store loads at their warehouse now and just keep spamming it in there ship is no longer tied down by having cargo onboard

I wouldn't be surprised if we see demand get backed up with people selling backlogs

[spare cloud]

Stocks are shared across all servers of the same region

[craggy tapir]

damn

so im sitting on beryl that i cant sell

[mild pumice]

my first senior rank mission loaded, I need that Atlas ASAP! Gib 3.24.1 😄

101k

[spare cloud]

Quantum fuel, that's quantainium ?

[mild pumice]

I guess it's the refined product

[near swallow]

Quantanium I assume is used to make quantum fuel. Raw quant is "volatile."

[mild pumice]

wouldn't mind raw quant delivery missions 😄

so I'm just dropping last lot off now so around 30-40 mins needed for this mission

Rep increase for 1 senior mission:

[craggy tapir]

How do I lvl hauling good

Im junior rn

[mild pumice]

@craggy tapir Make sure you only do missions your current rank, lower ones give very little rep for the higher ranks. You can stack missions that go to the same locations, the local ones are normally faster and seem to give the same rep as the larger ones. Just be sure to note which cargo goes where!

Just don't over commit yourself as if you get into trouble and fail 6 missions you will want to cry.

I also avoid the busy mining outposts that sell high value goods like Gold/Laranite, there's a much higher change of their freight elevators being broken.

[craggy tapir]

I noticed

[mild pumice]

If you do encounter a mission you can't complete and you have already delivered some cargo you can submit to partially complete but don't do that if you've delivered no cargo because I believe it counts as an abandonment.

[brave lark]

How much per hour can you make with the high rank hauling missions

[mild pumice]

I don't really look at p/hr earnings tbh

The 120k senior missions will take about 1hr so I guess that's the answer, I don't know Master rewards yet but following the pattern so far I expect the same missions will be 150k

[brave lark]

@craggy tapir A tip for loading to multiple destinations plan out where your dropping cargo off and load your ship in such a way it makes it as fast as possible to unload at each destination.

[mild pumice]

I did find a route with member local deliveries where you could stack 6 missions that took around 1hr/15min and yeailded about 200k all in but was high risk to carry so many missions

[craggy tapir]

Im already junior rank and rented the cuttless black
And did some runs

[mild pumice]

yeah I loaded my ship in 3 piles, one for each location so it was just drop n go.

[craggy tapir]

Picking up and a port and delivering at other

Yea

[brave lark]

I want to get a cat for these cargo missions

[craggy tapir]

My biggest outpaying jobs is 27k per run

[brave lark]

Can organise different destinations cargo into different modules

[craggy tapir]

That is indeed nice

[mild pumice]

yeah I'm saving up for a Cat in game now

[craggy tapir]

Cat for 1 day is about 200k tho

The Taurus seems to be a good option

Or the raft

[mild pumice]

I actually have the CCUs to upgrade my Valkyrie to a Cat but I'm hesitant to make the change lol

[craggy tapir]

Whats ccu?

[mild pumice]

I like the raft the interior is awesome but those claws piss me off too much

[craggy tapir]

true

[mild pumice]

pledge upgrade

[craggy tapir]

Does the raft have a tractor beam?

[mild pumice]

no

it does but it don't work yet

[craggy tapir]

Oh
Upgraded my Mustang to cutter

16bucks

[mild pumice]

There's a n operator platform and everything LOL

[mild pumice]

good buy

[craggy tapir]

60bucks instead of 66

A cargo cutless would be cool

Bigger bay and side doors

And tractor beam by the doors

[digital echo]

The Cutlass Black is the intended cargo cutty.

[mild pumice]

my fleet lacks a solid trader at the moment, I'm going to add an Ironclad at some point and I get Hull C/C2 loaners for the BMM so I'm kinda set for now. The C1 is my daily for smaller hauls but I did pick up a Hull A in game. Corsair is surpassingly useful it can take over 100scu off grid.

I have the the full set for the Galaxy so that does have a cargo bay option

The Carrack will be good once it gets working cargo pods

[craggy tapir]

is the taurus, raft or cutless better for hauling?

[spare cloud]

I say Taurus

Functional tractor beam, and more storage

For now obviously, it's not intended that both RAFT and Cutty beams don't work

[mild pumice]

Depends what you're moving for larger hauls yeah the Taurus but if you do local jobs the C1 is better.

Cutlass is nice with the side access tho

[spare cloud]

Side access 🤤

[craggy tapir]

cuz renting
Cutless -22k
taurus -190k
c1 -90k

renting the cutty seems more profitable

[spare cloud]

Yeah, and you can always fit more cargo off grid

[craggy tapir]

ye

delivered 5 8scu beryl boxes to orision

with cutty

[spare cloud]

Taurus doesn't have a huge off grid, but can still go like 260SCU instead of 174

While C1 can do almost 150 instead of 64, and Cutty 120 instead of 48

[craggy tapir]

now im waiting for orision to take the beryl

[spare cloud]

[craggy tapir]

since yesterday my freigh elevator was bugged

[charred spire]

where can i sell reclaimer cargo?

[craggy tapir]

orison has demand in construction mats i believe

[brave lark]

Be careful because last time I tried to sell cargo it broke and wouldn't sell so I lost cargo

[knotty dove]

My fleet lack solid trader yet has BMM in fleet

[mild pumice]

One day... one day

[knotty dove]

dont worry i also have it

[craggy tapir]

i just loaded 2 4scu, 1 2scu and 1 1scu box into my cutter

[coarse cape]

Railen before bmm

[tall vigil]

What's currently the best commodity to haul in a c2?

[teal stream]

how

c1 so goood!

[craggy tapir]

Magic

[brave lark]

What are the best commodities to trade atm

[crude vine]

so I've been out of this stuff for awhile but I seem to not be able to buy cargo and store it in my ship? Yes I have the money, yes I already tried multiple ships and nothing seems to work, I'm probably being dumb but someone please point it out xD

[coarse ember]

did you load it into your ship from cargo elevator by landing pads? with 3.23 we got physical cargo we need to move instead of it magically appearing in the ships

[crude vine]

ah that's it, god do I hate immersion

[coarse ember]

a small price to pay for sc updates

[crude vine]

I don't have a multitool with me

[vestal ravine]

Can we transfer rmc to a rental ship and sell at new babbage?

[coarse ember]

yeah as long as you're the owner of the cargo it should let you sell fine as long as you move cargo to elevator first, autoload/unload fucks it and sometimes steals your stuff without pay

[vestal ravine]

We just had that happen at Area 18. Plus it auto stored the ship. Lost 12 crates of rmc.

I never use auto unload typically leave on ship, get the sale notice, then transfer to the elevator.

[tall karma]

One advantage to this change is that you can now actually move cargo with any ship including stolen ships since you don't need to own the ship for it to be transferred into the cargo elevator.

Though now you have to store the ship instead of just be in range of the station in order for it to be automatically transferred, which makes sales at places like MT and such slower (since you could land next to TDD at MT).

[near swallow]

Auto-loading/unloading is only possible in a hangar with ship stored now. And it's buggy if and when it does work.

[craggy tapir]

its been 24h

and orison still doesnt take beryl

[coarse ember]

could try lorvile cbd, rn uexcorp says it's only 59 auec difference from orison

[hollow sedge]

seeing a lot of people in other places and on spectrum say they can't sell at TDDs

[near swallow]

I've sold refined ore at A18, but don't think Beryl was in it. While auto-unloading worked once or twice, for the rest I had to manually unload and then go sell.

There was gold in the ore though.

[craggy tapir]

Orison is completely broken

Terminals dont work correctly
Freight elevators are broken

This is a train wreck

[near swallow]

Last time I was at Orison (my primary residence) it was working fine, except that one elevator car is missing the hangar button, but trying another elevator always worked.

A Lorville transient hangar is where I had problems

[faint river]

Anyone else have issues with the elevators in SMO 18?

[dreamy wharf]

yes they're broken on most servers

i've been server hopping till i find one with working elevators

[vestal ravine]

Been to 3 main city TDD's trying to sell Vulturte RMC all have problems that leaves Hurston as my last shot unless some patches help out. But my friend is going to rent a ship and we see if he can get a sale then he will be my new banker.

[tall karma]

I sell at grim hex. Probably a profit loss vs other ports, but hard to tell when it's the only place I can get to auto unload my reclaimer

[tall vigil]

Does cargo still glitch through the bottom of the Connie and blow it up?

[balmy kelp]

can i move ship parts now from home planet to grim hex/station?

[limpid sluice]

You have to load them up yourself, but yeah. Small shit in 8scu containers, larger shit your better off just tossing it in ship as is

[leaden monolith]

I believe it is supposed to be fixed but haven't had my Connie out to test

[balmy kelp]

@limpid sluice @leaden monolith if hangars are perstisten, can i lay the ship parts around and back space wake up in home planet where all my ship parts are? im buying like 20 attrition 3s from lorville. move them to orison then move everything i got to grim hex

[limpid sluice]

Pretty sure your hangar is only persistent at your home planet

[balmy kelp]

okay ty

[limpid sluice]

Parts snap to grid now tho, if you hadn't heard, it's tedious but doable

[balmy kelp]

gah. what if i just throw them in there without snapping? will it register?

[limpid sluice]

Fine for ship but I believe it has to be on grid for the freight elevator to register

Otherwise it's 'an obstruction'

[balmy kelp]

okay. its all going to be attrition 3's and 2's. about 40 total. u think it will fit? it should right? in a c2

[limpid sluice]

Definitely in a c2

The size 2's might fit enough in an 8scu crate to be worth using a couple

Not sure if the 3s will be worth a crate though

Someone needs to make a cargo calculator tool

[onyx hare]

can I unload cargo first or do I need to sell first

[loud mural]

I think you can just sell from the station inventory so i'd say you can unload it

[teal stream]

yes i witness it firsthand twice

[vestal ravine]

Wasn't the workaround to have the Connie a few feet off the ground to unload?

[mild pumice]

I upgraded my MSR to a Caterpillar since I had the Warbond CCUs in hand, let's see how it is for those senior haulage missions!

[outer ridge]

Caterpiller has been treating me super amazing so far with cargo missions! Especially with multiple people

Also back to member rank after that insane setback

[mild pumice]

on my first outting now:

Nice to see it has Mil-C QD out of the box

[outer ridge]

Oooh cat is perfect for those numbers, as long as they 16scu boxes not 32

[mild pumice]

I figure I split them into 4 bays if they'll fit

yeah it's 16s

[outer ridge]

then its perfect

should easily fit

can fit 3 8 boxes per row, officially 2 on 8scu on top of those 3 but unofficially easily also 3

so 2 16 scu on top, 2 16 sideways in front

[mild pumice]

best to load manually or by ship tractor?

[mild pumice]

yeahI have the graph here of the grids 🙂

[outer ridge]

i always park backwards so i have the "good side"which isnt obstructed by the catwalk on my right, and park it like this / with the front close to the freight elevator, that way the tractor beam on the big right wing can easily get everything out in front of the pods

then use the maxlift to just get them that short distance into the pod

[mild pumice]

got some punk's ship in my hangar lol

sending it down lol

[mild pumice]

so wait the best access is on the wrong side to the FE? that kinda sux

will give this a go ha ha

[outer ridge]

i have it directly different

like with ur butt to the right side of ur pic

that way ur pods can see the lift !

[outer ridge]

yes

[outer ridge]

so if this is /, i have mine like . Apologize, i fucked up in my earlie rmessage i realize

thats why i always land backwards

[mild pumice]

loading seems to be going fine, still have the connie it came back up lol but it's not bothering me now:

the Atlas will speed up shunting the boxes around so it should be a nice loader, just a shame the catwalk isn't on the other side. The boxes go in well. 5x 16 fits in each slot nicely and then I'm putting all the add sizes in the front and I'll divvy them up at the drops.

@outer ridge is there a way to get into the front hangar? I threw some small boxes in I'm worried I wont be able to reach them, I've been up on the catwalk but don't see a way down

[outer ridge]

Its thru the main hallways, its a stupid layout. Small boxes fit underneath the catwalk in the normal boxes and on the sides, i usually traverse using the opened "ramps". If you really need to use thre front the only way to do so is to do it first

also i super recommend loading from inside the pods

its way easier and quicker!

[mild pumice]

Ah so one loaded you can't get there? I'll have to empty the first hatch and then go down the ladder I guess? Cheers for all your help, I've done the first drop, slow going whilst I get used to my new ship! The Atlas will be a godsend for moving the boxes arount the hangar

[hollow latch]

I heard the Caterpillar had a tractor beam how does it work with the separated compartments does the turret move to let you load different sections?

[outer ridge]

Yes exactly! its a ship with a bit of a manual,but its actually really good this patch imo ofc

Atlas will be such a gamechanger

[outer ridge]

its amazing for getting things out of the elevator and close to ur pods, but cant put them into ur pods

[mild pumice]

Yeah I'm enjoying it's quirkness tbh, much more interesting than the C2

[outer ridge]

also when unloading i usually just dump it in front of the cat, and use the way stronger ship beam to dump it into elevator

[outer ridge]

It has a beautiful interior for sure!

[mild pumice]

that box must've glitched out - not there anymore so I'm 2scu short!

[hollow latch]

It's my box now

[mild pumice]

lol. My guess is it got spat out when I closed the bays before taking off and it's sat in the Hangar at Cru-L1 where I started, I may nip back and check before I submit the mission

I'm not sure what the penalty is for being 2scu short, maybe it's just worth finding out lol.

[hollow latch]

That's what big piracy wants you to think

[outer ridge]

wasnt too crazy for me last time but too scared after i got set back 2 and a half rank

[mild pumice]

I got paid the normal amount and gained what looks like the normal rep so I guess there is a percentage of lenience if you're a tad short

[hollow latch]

So you're saying we can commit cargo fraud to make some extra cash?

[mild pumice]

I did the maths exactly 110,750 was paid

yarr

[near swallow]

I've put stuff in a cargo pod, on the grid, using the Cat's tractor beam in 3.24. (I actually used my Cat for the intro hauling mission. Overkill, but it worked, and I just wanted to fly it.)

I've also been able to fit a 32 SCU container (from a 3.22 C2 salvage mission) in the Cat before, it just would not snap to the grid. Which I think they should fix, but I'm not holding my breath.

[teal stream]

how did you generate this map?

[mild pumice]

found it on google, here's the clean copy (I just screen grabbed it)

nice map isn't it? kudos to whoever made it

[teal stream]

its really nice! thank you for this!

[mild pumice]

Just missing the jump points, maybe they've updated it?

[teal stream]

looks like this is the original source https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1blcfcc/updated_star_map_wallpaper/

and updated star map is there

[mild pumice]

awesome I'll grab the updated map

[craggy tapir]

isnt jumptown on daymar?

[mild pumice]

yeah it is currently

[craggy tapir]

hm

i hope jt is empty like yesterday

got 16 packs

[mild pumice]

could check #4-8-0-live channel might be some others doing it you can team up with

[shrewd breach]

Does anyone has gate not open problem? I was doing local cargo hual mission that need me to delevier the cargo to HDPC Farnesway. But the gate just wont open after I request the landing. I can even hear the gate opeing sound but it physically just NOT open....

[craggy tapir]

Wrong hangar?

[hollow latch]

Could be wrong hangar could also have one cargo bugged and try the other cargo dock

[outer ridge]

Had it too, I just avoided all planetary missions

[shrewd breach]

It only has 2 dock. Both just wont open...

[shrewd breach]

probable this is the right way to do..... sigh.....

[outer ridge]

Yess had barely any issues besides maybe a few boxes over all my hauling missions clipping thru the floor

but nothing as crazy as door not opening

and ive done like 60+ hauling missions

just planetary seem very unstable rn

[shrewd breach]

First I thought soemthing wrong with my local fiels so delete the game and reinstall again that took me 3 hrs. After this it works. BUT ONLY works ONCE. Then it bug again, then I reinstall again for another 3 hrs. Now it seems I am the dumb one that wastes 6 hrs hahaha

[outer ridge]

Im sorry about that man 😦 sounds like a frustrating experience

hopefully the space hauling missions treat you way better!

[brave lark]

When trading how long do the buy locations take to restock with stuff

[craggy tapir]

5-10 minutes

not on orison rn tho

shiz broken

[mild pumice]

Yeah happens occasionally, you can try QT away and back or just use the public landing pads and freight elevators

[mild pumice]

Yeah it's almost never a local issue almost certainly a bug or server issue. Only validate if you're having crashing issues, even then it can be other stuff like corrupted shaders, if you ever get stuck just ask in #helpdesk I guarantee you're probably not the first to have the issue, and of course if it's a specific issue the dedicated channels usually the best place

[mild pumice]

About 8-10 mins

[shrewd breach]

thanks. But I am not abling to chat in help, any hint?

[mild pumice]

Sorry I see that was answered, just catching up..

[mild pumice]

Oh it might be a role issue there's a #new-player-help too

[shrewd breach]

thanks!

[wild nest]

is it not possible to sell 32scu of weevils?

[limpid sluice]

Not currently. Store it for now.

[bold jay]

are the cargo elevators broken at the salv places?

[lime vessel]

Yes still…

[bold jay]

:/

[lime vessel]

That‘s the wonderful 3.24

[bold jay]

Do we know of when there will be a patch/what priority its at

[digital echo]

3.24.1 is in the PTU now, all waves, so hopefully soon.

[tall karma]

Where'd ya find 32SCU of eggs?

Most I've seen was a single 4SCU crate of the stuff.

[lime vessel]

Probably Vaughn

I did some of them and it looks like they nerfed them or i just had zero luck.

[wild nest]

max level vaughns have good loot

[digital echo]

Max level legal bounties can have some, although they do seem to have more good legal loot now, that they added Gold to that loot table.

[wild nest]

Boom. Second mission

[mild pumice]

What size?

[limpid sluice]

Looks like 24

[craggy tapir]

32

i think

[limpid sluice]

It says on the end, kinda blurry, but looks like 24

[mild pumice]

Hopefully they let NQA take them even if it's for less per scu

Yeah S6 is 24, 7 is 32. I think scrap yards take max 16? (Outposts take 24)

[coarse ember]

Smh beat me to it, I had a image pulled up and was comparing the amount of ridges at the top to figure it out

[spare cloud]

Scrap yard should take 24 too if I didn't misread the terminal when I was there

[mild pumice]

does the smol tractor move 24s in Live? I forget or have they nerfed it again? (currently in latest PTU)

can't buy a maxlift at Area 18 lol but I do have the power suit but it dosen't have the accuracy to stack the boxes on top of others grr, might have to take a trip to a cargo deck 😄

also top tip - you can no longer grab and drag on the FE UI, you must click the 'move' buttons:

so the smol beam still moves 16s, maybe I was just making it up in my head and it doesn't move 24s in Live :/

good news it can move the atlas though!

[rough silo]

does anyone know how the auto loading and unloading fees are calculated for buying and selling commodities? Is it algorithmic, or is it based on several factors such as :

• SCU Quantity?
• Container size?
• Commodity type?
• Location?
• Demand?

[spare cloud]

Container size

[hollow sedge]

I've gone back to the Cat in the last couple of days in PU. How does the ATLS fair in the Cat in terms of moving around?

[digital echo]

You have to tractor it in and out, as the Cat doesn't have it's elevators, obvi, but it seems good.

[mild pumice]

It's good but lacks precision at placing the boxes but that's true for all ships at the moment.

[hollow sedge]

Don't mind the tractor in/out task, just love the concept of using it in the Cat

[digital echo]

Or, you could probably just walk it onto the elevator platform, depending on how tall the suit is vs how high the ship sits.

[mild pumice]

24s don't seem to snap on top of each other in the Cat, I thought it was supposed to take 4x 24 plus a bunch of 2s per hold?

It will snap 16s on top

[mild pumice]

so it looks like they've tuned the multi tool right down, it barely moves 16s and 8s now but 1-4 still good, the maxlift seems unchanged

[limpid sluice]

Cat should hold four 24s in the side compartments, yeah

[stable comet]

Your right they don’t snap

You can still fit 4 in per hold but the top ones don’t snap

[mild pumice]

Good to know it's not a new bug in PTU 👍

[drowsy phoenix]

really need a filter function on cargo missions

[digital echo]

seriously. In the ptu, once I glitched into master, I had 200+ missions at all times. It's ridiculous.

[knotty dove]

gotta complete them all

[mild pumice]

Yeah I'm getting 180 on senior

Accept them all and abandon then you'll only have 1

[digital echo]

Speedrun negative rep with Covalex

[cobalt copper]

what gives more rank progress, big hauling missions or small hauling missions?

also, for some reason i seem to be stuck at 0% rep with covalex but im still progressing through the ranks

[digital echo]

As long as you are progressing through the ranks, I wouldn't worry about the rep percentage. I personally prefer doing mediums and below, just so I can use my Connie, but that's just me.

[knotty dove]

This i like running them with my FL MAX

[coarse cape]

So I hear you can supposedly auto load cargo missions on ptu? Anyone confirm. Want to try sometime with hull c

[mild pumice]

As far as I can tell small > medium > large give the same rep, all that matters is that you do missions equal to your current rank. Small missions are therefore more economical

[mild pumice]

The Hull C ones yes, I haven't heard that the other missions support it tho

[coarse cape]

How do you tell if it’s a hull c? Just cargo amount being in the thousands?

[mild pumice]

They're on live too if you get to experienced rank but currently not working, yeah anything over 600 I guess is intended for Hull C but there's nothing to identify it in the mission description

[coarse cape]

Ah

[mild pumice]

Be interesting if you could stack multiple smaller ones in the Hull C

I wish they'd give a bit more information tbh as I've searched high and low and can only find snippets of chat in spectrum threads

[drowsy phoenix]

missing all my 8SCU boxes for the mission.... great

[digital echo]

Isn't that the one on the bottom?

[mild pumice]

Scroll down?

[drowsy phoenix]

one on the bottom is a 4SCU box

[digital echo]

Sure doesn't look like the other ones I've seen.

[coarse cape]

Well my live game rep is fucked cuz o had 11 juniors and glitched through the floor and crashed and got infinite load screen so I might as well grind out ptu

I’ll find out once I get to it

[mild pumice]

Are they collect from elsewhere?

Show mission

[mild pumice]

Hmm it says direct so nah shouldn't be

Well that says silicon, and the cargo is stims so it's not even the right cargo, are you at Everus?

[drowsy phoenix]

sorry posted wrong mission, but I tried abandoning it and

[quartz summit]

o7, it would be very good to have the exact thing but for cargo hauling missions to help us better pick a cargo hauling route

[mild pumice]

I'm guessing you're at the wrong location

[drowsy phoenix]

nope

[crimson mantle]

The game's missions are dynamic though, not sure how it would work without needing people to input a whole lot of data 🤔
Happy to entertain the idea though.

[mild pumice]

You're 100% at Everus Harbor?

[drowsy phoenix]

I also took these missions and they supplied everything properly

[cobalt copper]

for elite dangerous theres some trading tools that use OCR, maybe that could be used too

[mild pumice]

Well hopefully those ones are working for you, I haven't seen the missing cargo bug since they hotfix it but doesn't mean it can't occur again

[quartz summit]

like I select a ship, based on the ship I have a set SCU capacity and fit, so it only shows missions within my ship capacity and possible size that's would fits, then I select where I wanna start my route and where I wanna finish and I have a set route with all contract names and details

[crimson mantle]

The SC Trade Tools companion also uses OCR to scan commodity kiosks, I could explore the idea after I work on some other priorities 😀

Right, but the website doesn't know what missions there are. They change all the time 😢

You can supplement your missions with cargo using the /en-route tool of the website, with an allowable detour of 0

[digital echo]

They at least tell you now what the largest box is, and then it's just math to figure out how many of what box, as they tend to do the least amount of boxes for the SCU they give you

[quartz summit]

as dynamic as they can be, surely there's a limited amount of variants of a same mission ?

I don't think it will be an infinite number of variations

the task would be huge and would require a lot of data and time to gather and put together but it could be very useful since CIG doesn't have any filters for cargo hauling missions

or you put all possible missions without an amount of SCU and without sizes, we (user) put that data shown in game and the website does the capacity and fit calculations and organise the route base on départ location and arrived location or on a loop like route

maybe doing the same with money to determine the approximate money gain : put all gain for each contract selected and the website does the math in the end for you so that you know for a set amount you wanna achieve, how many loops it would take

idk if that would be possible but like this it should be easier

[crimson mantle]

It could maybe be a feature of the companion app: make routes for given missions at a location.
I have some prep work for Pyro first, but it could be on the table.

[quartz summit]

okay, thanks for your help, more and more players will do cargo hauling and this could simply it a lot and save us a lot of time too

[crimson mantle]

Oh I agree.
It's just that it's terribly difficult to get quality data out of the game's client in a way that compliant with the EULA. Missions in particular are ever shifting, and spending lot of time on something they might tune and rework soon is risky.

[quartz summit]

you're right, maybe wait a bit to let cargo hauling stabilize itself

payout changed recently

maybe other things will too

they are still releasing hotfixes back to back

[full grotto]

quick money question. I've done a few hauling contracts, from extra small, small, to medium, but they're all around the 10-15k mark. When does the serious money start? Like 100k+ per run, and what amount of cargo we talking?

[mild pumice]

100k plus starts at senior rank, there's some 70-80k missions on experienced

[full grotto]

thanks. and the cargo size imma need? 'cos at the moment I'm renting a cutlass

[mild pumice]

Cargo will be 300-600 or above at senior but member and experienced rank have small and medium hauls that pay well

For example 40-60k to deliver 3-10scu to 3 or 4 locations

[full grotto]

I see. So keep plugging away, regardless of the size, and the rank will go up?

i assume at some point too, cargo size increases and that's not 600scu of 1scu containers!?

[mild pumice]

You can definitely do those in the Cutlass, I also used the Nomad and Hull A for some. There are other medium and large hauls but they don't always pay enough to be worth it, you'll have to decide time vs effort like if you don't mind to sit in SC

[mild pumice]

Yeah as far as I've noticed it's only the rank that counts for rep

[full grotto]

KTahnks for the tips

[wraith ice]

anyone able to do hauling mission with hull c

[mild pumice]

I haven't tried yet in Live but the latest patch notes in PTU still state that they fail after loading the first box as a 'known issue' and that was my last experience too.

[humble merlin]

Anyone in PTU know if they fixed salvage yards freight elevators not working?

[wraith girder]

what’s the best trade route rn

to ground

grind*

[leaden monolith]

Not as far as I know

[leaden monolith]

With the current bugs around trading I've steered clear of it. TDDs are unreliable, Freight elevators seem to lose some/all of your stored cargo, Cargo is there but not recognized, outposts just don't seem to work and the list goes on.

I'm sure someone else on here will have a route that works. Maybe if you can find something between two space stations?

[plucky bolt]

is it worth owning a hull c atm?

[fiery galleon]

In my opinion it’s sadly a no. I tried to use it, but my commodity cargo wouldn’t load no matter what I did and I ended up just losing the auec. To make matters worse it bugged out my HUD with a warning about unclaimed cargo on any ship I use now…

[harsh monolith]

Were can I sell 32scu boxes of weevl eggs? And if it is not possible yet, do you know if cig is working on a solution?

[spare cloud]

You can't sell them

[teal stream]

gh doesnt accept them?

[spare cloud]

They don't

[mild pumice]

I saw a post on a FB group suggesting the ATLS should be a reward for reaching a certain haulage rank, I actually think that's s really good idea!

But I think we all know it's gonna be on the pledge store!

[outer ridge]

Id love for actual rep rwards and in game progression. Imagine you can choose how to fill up your hangar with maybe an atls and mpuv bay, maybe some kind of generator that can boost your maxlift for like 5 min. Or for mining a secondary refininery that can do small jobs and larger depending on your rank

i dont know im just thinking out loud

[craggy tapir]

like what rank?

i dont think senior cuz its highest tbh

[mild pumice]

Experienced I guess once you unlock large loads

[craggy tapir]

define "large"

im junior rn

and get like 20 missions for 120scu

[mild pumice]

Yeah but they're medium missions max box size 8. Experienced rank gives large missions max box size 32 arguably when you need more moving power

[craggy tapir]

true..

perhaps when you are able to haul 16scu boxes?

[mild pumice]

Yeah that starts at Experienced

[craggy tapir]

Where can I sell beryl rn?

[sharp swift]

Have you tried other TDDs other than at Orison?

[craggy tapir]

I'll try

[lusty cypress]

anyone tried putting a full hull c into an XL hanger?

[brave lark]

No but I want to now

[old jackal]

Has anyone tried hauling missiosn withe Hull C? Im at experienced level but havent tried those high SCU missions yet

[leaden monolith]

The only issue I see with making the ATLS a hauling mission reward is that locks out people who don't want to/like hauling missions. I don't see them making it anything other than a pledge and eventually available in game.

[loud mural]

You could sell it for a crap load of monizz

[coarse ember]

Hull c is still scuffed and this patch if cargo bugs on hull c it'll put some text on your hud that sticks across ships

Iirc it's something like unclaimed cargo awaiting transfer that gets slapped in the middle of your screen

[sharp swift]

Across ships, across different logins, week to week. I've been told it'll stay there until the next patch for me

You do learn to ignore it, so there's that

[coarse ember]

Would've been nicer if it wasn't as intrusive kinda like small refueling/repair text but do get that it's meant to grab your attention

[sharp swift]

Yea it's 'Spongebob yelling' meme loud on the screen

[gusty gust]

Soo are the freight elevators at shubin mining 18 bugged out on every server?

[old jackal]

So I guess in other words, we are facing a bottleneck for experienced hualing missions and above then

[leaden monolith]

I think you'll find most FE's at outposts are bugged. Just another feature of 3.24

[coarse cape]

I love how the cargo patch has broken cargo game loop aspects

[gusty gust]

Oh nice well isn't that just perfect 🙃

Good thing I didn't drop 5 million on cargo at an outpost that I'll never be able to deliver lol

[coarse ember]

For now if you want to do cargo and don't mind the massive dip in profit I'd say stick to hauling missions and the solar contracts, planetary last I tried was a bit scuffed with cargo clipping under the hangar pad or disappearing while I tractor it

[sharp swift]

Not necessarily, you have 5 hours to complete a contract. You can do it in multiple legs or pair up with someone to share the load.

[gusty gust]

Aren't they coming out with 3.24.1 next week or something like that?

[digital echo]

Not confirmed when 3.24.1 will come out, although current speculation leads to tomorrow, seeing as that is when Jumptown will be taken back offline.

[gusty gust]

That would be nice are they gonna include that new mech suit with it?

[coarse ember]

last ptu patch notes said they were polishing the mech up so perhaps they will include it in the patch

[digital echo]

That seems to be the case, although not 100% confirmed. I imagine they are going to do this as a pre-sale LTI token pre-CitCon and IAE sales

[near swallow]

I kind of wonder if ATLS is being put out to take the place of the trollies that they pulled from 3.24.1.

[mild pumice]

I have a feeling you could be right @near swallow perhaps it was something they'd made for squadron and are putting it into the PU to replace the trolley.

[gusty gust]

What happened to the trolley's?

[mild pumice]

Hovering about somewhere

Not really sure, they held them back due to issues, we might find out more in Friday's Cargo Q&A

[civic epoch]

Has anybody tried selling 'stolen' or 'found' cargo from the hauling contracts? If so, where can you sell? There's so much junk laying around it would be great if we could grab at least some of it and sell to help clean up a variety of locations. If I remember correctly from the SC videos introducing the cargo re-work, this was supposed to be possbile.

[teal stream]

anyone test hull c on the ptu that just came out

[dreamy scaffold]

Anybody know if junkyard freight elevator are working?

[deep sparrow]

I did. picks up and delivers haul mission cargo, but still fails the mission.

showed -14 delivered, so since it didn't finish, i clicked submit and failed.

[teal stream]

thank you for testing

[teal stream]

cant believe they still havent fixed this yet https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-127268?_gl=1*rxbvqr*_gcl_au*MTAyNjAyOTg2Mi4xNzI1MTA1Mzg0*_ga*MTExODkzNDE0MS4xNzI1MTA1Mzg0*_ga_V6MWYXRQNP*MTcyNjExNTA0Mi43Ni4xLjE3MjYxMTUwNzAuMzIuMC4w

[deep sparrow]

one day

at least calling cargo for pickup/delivery works. wish lagrange points had cargo comms, but i wish for a lot of things.

one step at a time i supposed

[stiff vine]

Just ran about a dozen missions with my Caterpillar and having a second body on board makes things go a ton faster. One in the cargo bays sending or receiving boxes, the other on the tractor beam picking up.or placing em in the elevator. I didn't realize til too late that these missions are timed, ended up failing about 3 of em but now I know not to try to hoard a ton of missions at once. Despite a couple mission killing bugs the new cargo loop is pretty fun. Keeps me busy amd I have a reason for traveling Stanton. Glad to see the Caterpillar used to its fullest potential too

[craggy tapir]

i've been thing of getting gold from either HMDS-anderson/HDMS-Norgaard and selling to Area18

are these good trades?

[brave lark]

https://sc-trade.tools/home

use that to find trade routes

[craggy tapir]

nice

thx

what would be the best ship to rent for trading?

on the cheaper/starter side

the raft?

[hallow hearth]

Hull A

[brave lark]

If you have more money to throw around you could go for a taurus

[craggy tapir]

I have around 700k

Taurus rent is like 200k?

500k for gold then

[brave lark]

125k I think to rent taurus

[craggy tapir]

125k?

where?

Area18?

[coarse ember]

Yeah a18 is like 128k

[craggy tapir]

oh nice

Step 1: picking up a taurus
Step 2: fly to shuberdin lcd-1
Step 3: get gold back to a18
Step 4: Profit

[hollow sedge]

if you're going to SCD-1 on Daymar, be mindful that there is often a Cutlass Black that spawns in the area, that will shoot you in armistice and is sometimes indestructable

Fingers crossed you dodge that bullet when you go!

[craggy tapir]

i really hope

had that fcker once

[mild pumice]

Another tip for trading send the freight elevator down when you arrive just to make sure it's working before you buy anything, it's annoying AF to find out after

[spare stag]

MSR getting a huge shield buff, YES PLEASE

Still doesn't make it usefu for cargo for anything other than memes but it is a step in the right direction 😄

[unreal inlet]

how does the Hull C fare these days? still as problematic as ever?

[digital echo]

Yessir!

[deep sparrow]

Bug still active in PTU: https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-127268

[unreal inlet]

thank you gents

[mild pumice]

keeping my Caterpillar busy...

this is gonna take a while, did anyone make Master yet? These missions take at least an hour and with no stacking options it's gonna be a grind

I think that little bit of rep is 5 missions

so about 60 maybe

[umbral basin]

Anyone knows around how many medium load missions to unlock bigger load? Moving 8 SCU boxes in the C2 feels a bit tedious

[mild pumice]

medium (member rank) was about 30 missions I think

I did those in a Corsair, it can take the 100+scu missions too if you stack off grid. The best way is get the rep is to do the small local drops, there's a nice 6 stack at Microtech you can combine as they're different commodities so easy to split up.

Large loads 16+ is unlocked at experienced rank

[deep sparrow]

really? small local drops?

just because of quantity or because each actually give the most rep?

[mild pumice]

Because they give the same rep but take less time, plus stacking them is just free rep/credits for a bit of sorting out

You can make them into 3 piles before you load so you have your 3 drops and off you go!

The only negative is it's high risk to carry multiple missions in case you fail

[north oyster]

Wow, ISC with the Zeus and the new MFDs was a great show today. Excited about the Clipper coming soon

With that tractor beam arm, I might consider throwing boxes now

[gleaming minnow]

Does anyone know if the new missions work well with the raft, ive been thinking about picking one up for awhile now

[north oyster]

The Raft performs very well, with the cargo snapping to the stanchions with no issues

Besides the Hull A, the Raft is maybe one of the easier ships to load

I would recommend having a MaxLift over just a multitool for range, speed and power

[sharp swift]

The only issue I have is nudging the 8SCU boxes into the grabber sections horizontally, which is pretty minor. Raft is great @gleaming minnow, also recommend trying a ship with a working tractor beam since I've done missions with a Raft and a Taurus. Ship tractor beams are fire

[digital echo]

And, once ATLS becomes a thing, and it does not fit into RAFT, I’ll probs be going back to my Connie

[sharp swift]

ATLS is gonna equalize for ships w/no tractor beam like the C2

[digital echo]

That will make C2 loading a BREEZE

[gleaming minnow]

yeah ive been using my c1 but the cargo space is starting to feel really limited

the tractor beams working is awesome though

[mild pumice]

I'm absolutely loving my decision to get the Caterpillar it's so damn perfect for the high level medium runs

400scu in 16s it's like the mission was made for it!

[north oyster]

Did you guys see that tractor beam that comes with the Zeus!!
That was crazy

[mild pumice]

Yeah looks cool but I'm still probably going ES

[north oyster]

I may pick up the ES later but the Clipper is my baby

[mild pumice]

It looks a bit tight to realistically fill the hold but maybes you could slide 3x 32 off grid

I can't be doing with pissing around with a bunch of 2scu boxes

That's why I still love the Corsair, you can put 3x 32 and a 24 then another 8x 4 if you really want! Having the additional side entry is really handy

I've run 5x 24 a few times now, it's superb

[north oyster]

I enjoy having the Corsair but I generally just run the C2 because I didn't have to do math

[mild pumice]

I should do more of the large C2 runs, I think I will once I get a mech suit

[half roost]

I’ve gotten 6 x 24 to fit in the corsair easily

3.24 cargo was a buff to Corsair imo

[charred spire]

should i bother stealing size 10 bombs

[somber bay]

No

[brave lark]

Mfw you load all the cargo onto the elevator walk all the way to the TDD on orison and realise you forgot to lower the elevator

[craggy tapir]

how can i fix freight elevators?

[brave lark]

not sure

[charred spire]

can i land in lorville with altrutroxin on board

[limpid sluice]

you can land anywhere, its only an issue if security scans your ship while trying to get to where your going

[umbral basin]

Does transferring to warehouse infinite load affect all the smaller trading posts?

[mild pumice]

It can affect any freight elevator if it gets bugged out

Most likely occurs at the busy areas, ones that sell the high value ores, presumably due to the increased player traffic

[umbral basin]

I can't even click the tablet on the server I swapped to, I'll just take the loss of 90% money and go back to mission hauling then

[mild pumice]

Dumping a lot of money into trade this patch is as risky as taking a piss in crocodile infested rivers

I remember 3.18 transactions would fail occasionally, it would take your money and you'd get nothing, I lost like 8 million in one click lol

[umbral basin]

Honestly it was just a 100k so it's not that long to farm again

It's just a bummer cause I was in a good mood to try doing small runs to chill

[coarse stag]

Hey, party people! Are there any unverified/illegal cargo hauling missions? Can I be a smuggler finally?!

[mild pumice]

@coarse stag not that I know of no

[coarse stag]

I have hope. Soon tm

[cinder tulip]

I see on UEX it has RMC as being sold at Pyro? Is that a bug? Because when I go to look, it doesn't actually let me purchase.

[coral shale]

Is RMC still the most profitable trading commodity?

[digital echo]

It depends. It’s not nearly as profitable, and a lot less safe, so less reason to risk it. Hepheaestanite is good, Beryl is good, gold is good (if you can get enough to fill a ship, it’s sold in very limited quantities.

[coral shale]

Not as safe because shitty terminals? Or because of piracy

[digital echo]

Piracy. It is one of, if not the only commodities that has to be purchased outside of armistice.

[mild pumice]

Heffastanite is from the Jump Points isn't it? I might do a C2 run at some point

[coral shale]

But it gives you a consistent supply, unlike gold where you sit there waiting for it to refresh while still selling good. In other words, it’s the most lucrative?

I don’t mind the risk of pvp

[digital echo]

RMC is also sold in very limited quantities. The only way I have been able to fill a C2 is a mix of luck (not getting pirated) and server hopping across multiple instances of Rappel/Picker's Field.