industrial-professions

[final grail]

[spare stag]

Has anyone ever done the science to stuffing a 600i full of loose cargo?

[lusty cypress]

Thats literally what you get for trading beryl/diamonds. Its only rmc thats a giant outlier at 1800k

[final grail]

What about gold? In 3.24 mining outpost.has 900 scu

[lusty cypress]

In 23 you cant buy enough to fill a c2 even remotely

I the current patch gold has a higher roi than rmc, its just balanced to have limited supply so cutty blacks to freelancer max size cargo carriers can make good profits

[obsidian vortex]

has anyone seen what the end level missions are for cargo hauling?

[knotty dove]

no reached a middle level but current bugs most of time prevent me to finish missions

[mild pumice]

Just one more mission for the next rank - ngl this has been a slog!

Given that most of the Member missions take 30-40 mins and I failed a good few for server issues that's a lot of hours I don't care to count 😄

And I have the pneasure iof doing it again on Live

[sharp swift]

How many missions do you think you did?

[mild pumice]

I think it's gotta be about 20-25 to get through the member rank, what I can't tell is if there's a difference in rep amount between the small and medium. The lower rank missions obviously give less

[sharp swift]

Ok, so doable but with effort

[mild pumice]

Yeah it will be fine in live you'll get through them without noticing I think, it was harder earlier in PTU when failure rates were like 8/10 lol

[sharp swift]

What was causing the failures?

[mild pumice]

30ks were the main issue and bugs with freight elevators which are a lot better now and I think the bug with scrap yards not snapping is fixed along with 32scu that were being allocated that you couldn't deliver. Servers are getting more stable too.

[mild pumice]

How you get 13x 8scu boxes in an MSR

[knotty dove]

could load more

[mild pumice]

I did try and double stack but they don't fit

getting back to the deck is fun

it's like one of those picture puzzles lol

[knotty dove]

looks like you start it wrongly you should double stack at start

[mild pumice]

They don't fit

I'll try again another time but I could not fit them 2 high even in the middle where it looks higher

[vestal ravine]

I know it's not RMC but the Gold is in limited quantities and Beryl can easily fill a C2. In the trading days BEFORE RMC this was a top grade profit. Also it's much safer to run and the investment is lower.

[mild pumice]

ffs it gonna make me do one more mission 😦

hopefully a starter mission is enough these member ones just take forever especially when you're dealing with ATC bugs etc 😄

[mild pumice]

yeah so that totally wasn't worth the effort 😄

I don't get it, it's 30k to haul 110scu or 63k for 2000scu

[knotty dove]

usualy isnt since hauling mission rank up most of the time just means bigger missions

[mild pumice]

If you could do that in the Hull C with autoloading it would be good though

so this will take 6 runs in a C2, that's gonna take a couple of hours, a lot of fuel and you will want a couple of crew members to load, that's a bad deal.

[knotty dove]

its designed for Hull C that does not work

[mild pumice]

It would be worth it with the Hull C but why bother putting it in until the functionality is there tbh

[final grail]

Wtf that payout is pitiful I can get 34k for 7scu of waste

What the fuck is CIG smoking

[mild pumice]

yeah I just put that feedback in spectrum, there are some reasonable missions - here:

[final grail]

22scu paying almost as much as 2200

Wtf?????

Cig really has no fucking idea how to balance anything

Wait the 22 was almost as much as the FOUR THOUSAND I misread

Wow.

[mild pumice]

here's an Experience medium size Interstellar haul

[final grail]

Wha - these payouts make literally no sense

[coarse ember]

I'd assume before it even hits release candidate builds they'll change payout

[knotty dove]

its either Hauling missions pay to little or profits we get from other stuff are to high

[limpid sluice]

suspect profits from other stuff is too high, general trend seems to be lowering profits as of late

[mild pumice]

Yeah I think they tell moving towards the kind of economy they want for 1.0 which by the looks of it might end up a mega grind, let's see...

[near swallow]

SC is supposed to be an MMO, and grind is what they're usually all about.

[knotty dove]

understandable but CIG should just change all rewards at once so backers can easily adapt instead of giving us just one mission line updated since will lead to many backers ignore it or complain about it

[near swallow]

I suspect that's not as easy to do as it might sound, and they may not have the manpower to try and rebalance the entire economy at one time, especially since much of it's supposed to be replaced by a dynamic economy in the future. The aUEC rewards for missions right now don't mean anything in the long run as I do not doubt that there will be full wipes before release.

[limpid sluice]

i mean, they definitely will because we'd switch from aUEC to UEC

[coarse cape]

Atp just run cargo in a hull c and get that much or more in profit

[mild pumice]

Yeah I did a run in my C2, 640scu between jump points and made 400k even after auto loading

That's the max 32s it holds IIRC

[nova plank]

Lol. I had a 105SCU Cargo Haul mission with 12x8SCU boxes I had to load, plus 2x4SCU and 1x1SCU, man that was a chore to get in there as well. lol

MSR is fast though, especially once you replace the Industrial QT drive it has. xD

[mild pumice]

I thought I might not be able to get the last one but I managed it lol. The Taurus as well is max 12x so you could get caught out too

Yeah I'm running an XL-1

[nova plank]

I love that the new contracts show how big the SCU boxes are now.

Yeah same here.

[mild pumice]

It's a step in the right direction

[nova plank]

Ran through the Seraphim Blockade earlier.. Shields actually held pretty well

[mild pumice]

Same.

[nova plank]

Almost 2x the shield strength when you divert everything to shields.

[mild pumice]

I've done a few in the Corsair as well even though it's 72 it'll do 100+

[nova plank]

I have a softspot for the Corsair, but it just doesn't sit right for it to be a cargo runner when its an exploration ship lol

[mild pumice]

It's definitely good at exploring C2s outta Pickers

[hollow latch]

how do i load the hull c with cargo?

[hollow sedge]

I've made a point of not using the Corsair to fly any kind of cargo, only thing I'll use the cargo bay for is bounty loot.

I find the game so much more enjoyable when you stick to specific ships for specific purposes.

Yeah, I get that ships like the Corsair are phenomenal generalists, I love it to death, but if you've got a fleet, use it, right?

[mild pumice]

Only at the 4 LEOs and 3 Jump point stations you can buy from the Admin terminal then you must call the ship, undock and request cargo ATC. You then extend the spindles fly into the loading area, big box and wait for it to fill up. Unloading is a reverse of the above

[coarse cape]

I needa try hull c in 3.24

[mild pumice]

There's apparently some docking fixes in the latest builds but I haven't tried it as I've been focusing on the haulage missions

[coarse ember]

when i played last night someone had docking work fine short of refuelling not working

[mild pumice]

I hope they add Hull C specific missions it would make sence for those larger hauls

[coarse cape]

I think that’s the plan with the hauling missions I just think they haven’t finished the loading part for it

[hollow sedge]

Any1 got a safe but profitable trade route? Not looking to be on edge every time I go to rappel to buy and trade RMC.

[spare cloud]

Beryl, Ita > Lorville

AZs only, no waiting time, short trip.

[hollow sedge]

Beryl from ArcCorp 141 to Orison has been good to me, not been hit yet

[median pond]

is the C2 salvage missions still meta?

do they still spawn hella drugs?

[lusty cypress]

C2 salvage missions no longer exist afaik.

[lusty cypress]

And scu loot on salvage missions was slashed

[humble merlin]

You want free drugs you gotta pirate or kill pirate

[spare cloud]

Nope go make your scams somewhere else and read #rules_and_information

That counts into begging, so I guess you can still read the rules

[rustic wraith]

oh damn sorry then

sorry then take it back

[spare cloud]

All good

[mild pumice]

Thought I'd share some tips for loading the C2 efficiently with 32scu containers for Large Hauling missions or A-B trading.

Firstly on the Grid the C2 can hold 20x 32scu containers plus some smaller boxes besides to make up the extra. The front section can only snap them length ways, 6 off; the rear and middle sections are not long enough the fit two rows in 'length ways' therefore 6 of the containers must be rotated sideways to optimise the space available.

Here's some screenshots of my C2 loaded up for a Large haul.. Hope this helps! Stay safe out there fellow traders.

[knotty dove]

I load/unload C2 only from rear no need to open front

[mild pumice]

I sent the 6 boxes up the freight elevator that was at the front of the hangar to save time.

[knotty dove]

i find it faster if i position C2 at angle so i dont need to move alot and just fully load/unload it from rear

[mild pumice]

Whatever easier for you if you keep the C2 at 90 you don't have to rotate the boxes

[leaden monolith]

My fine motor skills must be off. I have a really hard time fitting the 4th box lengthways. Often I just can't get it to fit.

I should clarify the 4th box on the second row

[mild pumice]

You're not alone it did take some jiggling around

[leaden monolith]

I resorted to 26x24scu, 2x8 and 28x2 All 24s go sideways except 4 in the back along one side. Sideways seems easier to cram 2 high

[mild pumice]

Mine was a mission so no choice on the sizes but yeah 24s definitely easy to load. I did a mission that was all 16s, that was a bit of a chore due to the amount of boxes but at least it's suitable for other ships like the Caterpillar

[leaden monolith]

I don't even want to think of trying to fully load a Cat manually. Now if auto-load worked as it does now, as in filling the ship to capacity, but with the time delay then that would be fine. My trials with auto-load have left a lot to be desired.

[tall karma]

Cat shouldn't be that bad. Open all doors and use the ship tractor beam turret.

[tepid tulip]

Hi - If I'm just starting off with a Freelancer MAX and have the 15k credits, how do I start with cargo/trading runs?

[spare cloud]

You need investment to trade, and it's also best not to use more than 50% of your money.

[lusty cypress]

might be worth getting your capital up first.

[spare cloud]

You'd be better doing mercenary or bounties until you got a couple hundred thousands

[tepid tulip]

Ah ok

[lusty cypress]

if you did want to start with just 15k. this is the route i would take, and what and how much ill buy from each stop

you can also ask in #looking-for-session , maybe someone is hauling cargo and willing to pay you to help out. or doing another activity

[tepid tulip]

Ah ok, thank you

[mild pumice]

I saw in the patch notes there's supposed to be a Hull-C cargo mission (from one of the known issues) but can't find any documentation on it on spectrum other than one post saying you should be able to load up as usual, well I've taken a 2k scu cargo mission and it's given me cargo docking but no area to fly into for loading, I almost thought it was going to work!

well fk me it did actually work this time (well almost it got stuck like the issue suggest)

[tepid tulip]

I have 140k now, is that better to start?

[lusty cypress]

yeah thats better. obviously the more you have the more profit you'll have until a certain point

[tepid tulip]

So, how do i start like

planning cargo route stuff

[lusty cypress]

https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes

to plan your own

looking at your budget, doing drug running will be your best bet

[tepid tulip]

sounds... illegal lol

[lusty cypress]

it is, however you can't get crimestat from it unless you happen to take your cargo near a space station or city and a police ai scans your ship

very low risk of that happening if you're just going from a to b

[tepid tulip]

So this one?

[lusty cypress]

yes, jumptown you can't directly warp to, so for your first run i'd suggest a different one

try this

[tepid tulip]

ooh ok thank you

[lusty cypress]

unless you're bad at flying/landing your ship, you will have 0 chance of losing your cargo if you wanted to invest all of it.

those destiniations never really have players

[tepid tulip]

Do I need a tractor beam or does it just go straight into and off of my ship

[lusty cypress]

this patch it'll spawn in your ship

so you'll land; go inside, buy from the terminal and then repeat the same thing once you land at the sell destination

[tepid tulip]

I see, thank you

[lusty cypress]

good luck space trucker!

[tepid tulip]

It won't let me jump to Paradise Cove

[lusty cypress]

might be another jumptown then. you can also buy from Raven's Roost

@tepid tulip

[tepid tulip]

I'll give that a go, ta

[vestal ravine]

For those Jumptown sites there is an internet site called Verse Guide that has methods to triangulate to all sites on the moons, planets, etc. However I have found one that gets you to Ravens Roost on MT. It starts with a mission called "Supply Re Up" under the Mercenary tab. It is a box mission. It should describe going to Buds Growery for the first box then to Raven's Roost for the second. So, you get a marker for it but have to free fly some 200KM not to bad. Once there you can buy the vices and just take them to Devlins Scrap yard on Eutrepe for sale. Then I just abandon the mission. Buds also can have guns to pick up in the loot crates. This may all change in 3.24 I heard all vices are going to Pyro. Note NPC ships can spawn nearby so be ready to run.

[vestal ravine]

hi, see my thoughts on Ravens Roost..Thx

[spare cloud]

Raven's root, Jump town, Paradise Cove... They're drug labs, all illegal places, all no QT marker. Fly there

[mild pumice]

If you unlock the risky delivery missions you can get markers that way too, you need to be rank 2 with Covalex then take the mission near Hurston to get access to them

It'll be in the personal tab once you've ranked up enough

[deep sparrow]

I'd like to try and reproduce! Were you already flying a Hull C when you grabbed the Haul mission? Then flew to pickup station? Order of things seem to matter for some reason, so I'd love to know your steps!

[mild pumice]

I grabbed the mission then retrieved the Hull C and flew to the mission location. Make sure you get a TS-2 those trips are long

Also the cargo ATC only worked after I had docked at the station

[deep sparrow]

PTU is a bit crashy atm, but I'll give it a shot tonight. hopefully on a new patch.

[deep sparrow]

Ah

[mild pumice]

However the whole server was experiencing ATC issues due to BR

[deep sparrow]

I've also had issues with cargo spindles extending/retracting

I seem to only be able to do it once, either extend or retract, before having to store my ship and pull it back out

so i might spawn it, keep retracted, get mission, go dock at retrieval station, undock, extend, call cargo ATC, and pray to Zod.

[wheat moss]

Hi, is this a known bug or i'm doing something wrong ? i can't sell certain minerals more than 3 at a time

[limpid sluice]

Known bug

I believe it's just aphorite as I recall

[wheat moss]

And now i can't sell anymore because it gave me my minerals back

[spare cloud]

Aphorite you can't sell in big bulks, gotta sell three by three

But your gems being given back that is weird

[wheat moss]

they were only ghosts, couldn't ressel them and they weren't in my ship anymore, had to take the last gems on me to sell them

[leaden flume]

hey so got a drake catepillar to do cargo runs looking for decent trade route beside beryl anyone got any suggestions

[digital echo]

For a Cat, either Beryl or I think it's Hephestanite from either the Pyro or Magnus Gateway to one of the major cities?

[leaden flume]

ok cool yea hephestanite is one i nvr done before so ill do that

[digital echo]

If you want to change things up, I use uexcorp.space to look. Of course, most of the first page of routes is all RMC, but look past that and it gives some fun recommendations.

[somber bay]

You can also have it generate loops for you

So it’s not just one way trade trips and a trek back

Those can be cool

[digital echo]

Yeah, although the trip back is usually something stupid like Waste

[leaden flume]

ok ima use that and see what i can do

[leaden flume]

how do i get it to generate a loop for me using that website

[somber bay]

🔁 button on the right

[leaden flume]

yea it aint working so i think ill stick to taking scrap back on the return trip terra gateway should buy scrap right?

[digital echo]

Yeah, UEX doesn't give a return trip for that. IDK about Scrap, but it will even tell you how much you'll be investing and your take away profit, such as this example with the Cat:

If the route has a possible good return trip, you'll see that symbol on the end there:

[leaden flume]

yea good thing i got the capital for it lol

[vestal ravine]

You can always get Gold and Beryl on Microtech and sell it at Nbis... Then just fly back up and hit both again after a relog. 5 trips should be a million profit.

[warm totem]

i saw this in the bug fixes for 3.24: "Fixed Kopion Horn sell prices being lower than intended" does anyone kow what they are NOW in 3.24?

[humble merlin]

Hopefully enough worth doing

[lusty cypress]

Why would you need to relog? Demand is region bound and beryl demand is never out st nb in my experience? Also beryl at best sells for 400k profit when buying mt and selling orison.

[lusty cypress]

Diamond can make similar profit to beryl, only has 1000 supply so you pretty much can only buy once per place. There are 4~ locations that sell and all major cities sell, 2 for an a18 moon and 2 for lorville moon. I like it because half of each route is in space where cat isnt as slow.

[vestal ravine]

I was thinking for the Gold aspect it might help or just hang out in space for 10 minutes.

[spare stag]

How are people feeling about the Zeus CL vs the Spirit C1?

Is there anything about the C1 that makes it better than the Zeus despite the smaller cargo hold (aside from aesthetics and personal taste)

[lusty cypress]

Zeus cl is directly comparable to the freelancer max

Zeus has less firepower than all other small multirole ships

[spare stag]

Is it faster to compensate or do we even know?

[lusty cypress]

I think cargo wise c1 carries as much as cl given you can fit around 100-120 in the cargo bay physically

We dont know afaik but rule of thumb is crusader ships in general have more thrust than counterparts

[spare stag]

Yeah I don't think the CL will have a lot of extra space off grid. There is bound to be some though

Maybe down that main hallway

[lusty cypress]

Ngl doubt

Maybe an 10 scu more at best if you fill up the ramp somehow while still closing it and a 2scu box or two in that hallway

[spare stag]

From that angle the hallway seems very unfriendly to boxes lol

[lusty cypress]

Maybe if you stack all the boxes without the grid you can make it one box wider but yeah

[spare stag]

I'm not sure what that bottom right picture is

It looks like the living quarters are going to be super cramped

Gotta get that cargo!

[lusty cypress]

Yeah the door to that room goes directly to cargo floor

The rearranging of habs and other rooms getting smaller was honestly why i pledged es instead

[spare stag]

I had the MR for a while because of the armory

[lusty cypress]

Seems like it really pushes cargo above all else; which fair enough thats its job, just not for me

[spare stag]

I'm thinking of just dropping the whole pledge

[lusty cypress]

Fair tbh

[spare stag]

I suppose I'll hold onto it until it releases for the extra value but the one I've got is only 120 months

It may wow us yet 😉 if it flies super well

[lusty cypress]

You say that like 10 years of insurance isnt basically lti

[spare stag]

The ES does seem like the better choice though

[somber bay]

how tall is the zeus CL grid, 3?

[spare stag]

Based on that picture I'd say two

[somber bay]

two would be good

3 becomes a waste of space

[lusty cypress]

Yeah since the amount of cubes shown is 40 on that pic

[somber bay]

terrible

[lusty cypress]

Its not exactly a big ship

[somber bay]

its fairly large

but 3 height grids are terrible

[lusty cypress]

Im curious to see how many boxes you can comfortably fit in the es, 32 scu (and 16 on mr) is insanely less

[somber bay]

you lose so much when manually loading

[lusty cypress]

Then consider it a 80scu ship then

[spare stag]

We're the SCU limit supposed to be for it?

[somber bay]

128

[spare stag]

For the cl

[somber bay]

MR and ES are gonna have a lot more off grid space

their cargo hold isnt much smaller but is dedicated to other storage as well

rover in the ES and bounty pods in the MR

[spare stag]

Hrm that photo only shows room for 96

[lusty cypress]

I mean the cl has a widened back like the freelancer max no?

[spare stag]

So maybe it is 3 tall

[somber bay]

no

its got an elongated cargo hold

https://media.starcitizen.tools/4/4c/RSI_Zeus_MkII_CL_interior_with_labels.jpg

[spare stag]

If that photo is accurate (and maybe it isn't) the only way you'd get 128 is if the middle is tall enough for 3scu

[somber bay]

Crew habitation is much bigger in the ES and the MR has armouries

[spare stag]

You get 32 SCU in the sides, 64 in the center, and the last 32 as a thin layer above the 2 32s in the middle as I guess those flat 4 SCU boxes

Which would be super annoying to load by hand if the ceiling is tight

[lusty cypress]

If the mr is 16 you can see where the 16 scu box will go lmfao

Yeah the es looks like it will hold 64 easily without any funny business

[somber bay]

yes but not magnetized

which will probably become a bigger deal when we get gravity controls

[lusty cypress]

I mean that means nothing next patch with how cargo is changing

Yeah until something changes

[spare stag]

If the ceiling is 3 scu high that means we may be able to fit an Ursa if it can fit through that narrow ass ramp

[somber bay]

dont think it will

[spare stag]

I'm very doubtful

[somber bay]

the cutlass is 3 high

zeus was built to hold a cyclone i believe

[lusty cypress]

Im 80% sure they said ursa wont fit

[somber bay]

so stv, utv too

best ground vehicle thats never coming

[spare stag]

I'm slipping. What are the dimensions of an 8, SCU box?

[lusty cypress]

No other small multirole does

[spare stag]

Never mind

[somber bay]

2x2x2

[spare stag]

I need more coffee lmao

[lusty cypress]

Cube

[spare stag]

The MSR ceiling is just over 3Scu

You can throw in an 8 with a flat 2x2 on top and is scraping at that point

Are you sure a Cutty has a ceiling that high?

[somber bay]

yeah pretty sure

[spare stag]

I've never used one for cargo lol

[somber bay]

oh nvm it doesnt

[lusty cypress]

I think msr is just really deceptionally sized

I always feel like the cargo bay should hold more when empty

[somber bay]

corsair and connies are 3 tall too

[spare stag]

Those all 3 fit Ursas

I feel like the opening dimensions will keep you from getting one in it nothing else

At least with wheels on it lol

[lusty cypress]

C1 would fit an ursa if ramp and door wasnt so small

[somber bay]

the ursa is pretty useless as a vehicle, Nursa will be too eventually

[tall karma]

I mean healing injuries is pretty useful after they finish the SQ42 combat updates to AI and TTK. Well be more likely to walk away with scrapes and cuts from encounters making T3 beds useful even if they lose their regeneration

[spare stag]

They said they always intended then to have regen

[somber bay]

that is not what they said

but they likely will not lose regen

instead they'll get a shrinking respawn radius and use some sort of medical juice that things like the nursa and c8r wont be able to carry in any realistic quantity

[spare stag]

That is exactly what Jared said

On the Friday live stream directly after releasing the Nursa Jared defended saying they always planned on making all beds regen and that this was just the right time to make that change as everyone was suspicious it was for marketing reasons

As long as you can respawn from the area you parked next to I'll be okay with it lol

[humble merlin]

If the official word is that all medbeds can regen I might actually pledge a nursa or C8R

[spare stag]

Jared's voice is less official than it should be lol

But he quoted someone else saying that is always the way they wanted it to be. I'll try and find it later

[novel dawn]

What is Nursa?

[somber bay]

medical ursa

[frank warren]

Love that, should of been called a Nursa

[novel dawn]

Why its called like that?

[somber bay]

Nurse+Ursa

[spare cloud]

Because Nurse Ursa

[somber bay]

Nursa

[novel dawn]

Got it

[north oyster]

3.24 Going Live!!

[mossy radish]

so no more drugs?

[analog stump]

Hey I am attempting a freight mission, I'm guessing I'm meant to contact the Cargo ATC instead of landing one? But nothing I'd happening, server issue?

The normal one works fine but there is nothing there for me to load into the ship I looked in the freight management computer and the warehouse is empty

[final grail]

Nope. Cant get em at all at outposts with terminal like 3.23. Looks like they completely nuked that part of the game

[mossy radish]

awesome

[tall karma]

Gotta find them as contraband in bunkers or bounties

[mossy radish]

yeah but thats micro scu

also how does one pay for the automatic cargo loading?

[north cloak]

How're you cargo nerds liking the new update?

[north cloak]

it's worth noting last i saw you can only do this with BOUGHT cargo. Not mission cargo.

[coarse ember]

it's pretty alright, cargo grid on my connie pheonix wasnt working but regardless they stayed in place and made the trip to a18 from jaijini

[north cloak]

Once the 600i gets the rework I might actually cave and start using one. I hate the exterior look. But a "luxury cargo ship" sounds right up my alley

I would use the Pheonix but issa little too smol

[tall karma]

You can find hundreds of SCU of drugs on bounty ships

[torpid garden]

On the issue of when you are going to sell drugs for example in Samson if you have a container of 32 scu you can not keep it in the cargo because of the size, how do you do now to be able to sell 32 scu of example Altruciatoxin?

[pure prairie]

grr who thought it was a good idea to unload and load yourself and make autoload not instant

[mild pumice]

going well so far!

[agile warren]

I haven't caught up with the update yet, what's new?

[warm totem]

TOO MUCH TO LIST

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/Patch-Notes/20087-Star-Citizen-Alpha-3240

[hollow sedge]

has anyone tried to use the jettison cargo feature with the RAFT? I was going to give it a try with mine after work, curious!

[steady lily]

is cargo hauling dead?

[wooden kraken]

Cargo ATC is purely for the Hull C atm. For contract cargo you land in your typical hanger and pull your mission boxes up with the cargo elevator. Reverse to sell. If you get to the correct location and are given a hanger and no cargo is in the elevator kiosk, report it as a bug to the issue council. Been playing it since wave one and I haven’t had that problem yet. Most all the bugs I’ve noticed are on the back end or drop off phase off the contracts.

[wooden kraken]

It’s alive and better than ever

[steady lily]

I just wasted 400k because the game decided that my 32 scu box cannot fit

[steady lily]

rmc is like 96 on pickers field

sure you got hauling missions but 96 scu for 16k is crazy

[wooden kraken]

Growing pains. You’re not dead yet if you’re feeling the pain!

[steady lily]

whats the max pay for hauling misiions?

[wooden kraken]

Most I saw on the PTU was 180k. Not sure it’s been achieved in PTU yet. Highest I got was halfway before a PTU reset

[steady lily]

how many scu?

[wooden kraken]

Wanna say it was near a 1000 scu give or take because every contract is a little different. And I’m not sure what values they changed when they went live with it all.

[steady lily]

doubt it can fit inside my tauris

[wooden kraken]

I mostly stuck with the port to port mission. Planetary was too buggy.

[steady lily]

trading is a hassle now

12 scu on rappel😭

[frosty sentinel]

Highest was 180k halfway through the levels?

[wooden kraken]

Make multi trips on a good QT drive. That’s what I did with my Taurus. Was my favorite cargo ship in the PTU and I flew everything I could get my hands on. Like the nomad for the small runs and love the Connie Taurus for the mid runs and even tested caterpillar with good results. Cat trac beams good enough for loading 8’s and 16’s on the bigger missions.

180 is what global said. We asked that question everyday.

[frosty sentinel]

Ah ok

[steady lily]

how much am i expectig for those cargo missions?

[frosty sentinel]

If that’s real and only halfway…holy crap.

We could have a MISSION paying more than 300k with that logic

[wooden kraken]

Cargo payouts aren’t great. Definitely not a get rich fast thing. You don’t sell the cargo you just drop it off. Not a lot of creds

[sharp swift]

But a rep grind is nice to have for the loop

[frosty sentinel]

Ik quanta and mission generation based on location needs wasn’t in this patch.

How’s normal trading?

[frosty sentinel]

Yup. And the fact you don’t need to buy in for it either is extremely nice

[sharp swift]

True! Very beginner friendly with little to no starting capital

[wooden kraken]

That’s why I like it. Bout as relaxing a salvage/mining. Throw some tunes on so you don’t have to hear the hanger noise and have fun

[frosty sentinel]

The end goal is less of the normal trading we had in the past, and it more be missions generated based on what different locations need right?

[frosty sentinel]

Definitely. I got a few friends who will love that

Even for experienced players…not risking 90 percent of your money is nice. A possible 300k - 180k payout in a half hour to 45min period isn’t bad

[fair cloak]

Anyone know if we can do the hauling missions with the Hull C?
Not sure how the auto loading will work with it.
Rumor of a terminal in the ship????

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/65295/thread/3-24-hauling-hull-c

[wooden kraken]

No hull c for missions as you can’t land and load

[fair cloak]

I am doing a lot of station to station hauling jobs atm

[wooden kraken]

Park it out side and do a mothership if you want with the org, I’m going to try this. But can’t land and load a hull c

[sharp swift]

Unless going from Port to Port? Are there missions for that? I didn't play any of the PTU

[wooden kraken]

Wait till you fly one fully loaded now. Flight is a LITTLE different

Yeah I did a hull c load of hydro last night after it all went live successfully. But that was just a normal run. Not a mission.

Docking collars work great at Oreo

Prison

Orison

Stupid prediction

[sharp swift]

Loved seeing the autopredict do its work

Never saw the similarity between Orison and Prison until now...isn't Orison near Grimhex?

[pure prairie]

yes

grim hex is near yela which orbits cru which is orison

[lusty cypress]

anyone know what the best commodity to buy and sell is now that rmc is no longer a thing? anything new added to the mix?

[pure prairie]

grrr bit pissy that .24 came this early

was gonna nolife the weekend to grinding out rmc in a cat

[hollow latch]

I haven't checked the prices since the patch dropped but beryl was pretty good for high volume and smaller volume gold/ diamond was good

[pure prairie]

is sc tradetool upto date yetr

[lusty cypress]

on prices i believe, but idk if supply/demand has been updated

[pure prairie]

wow my route profits just havles

[lusty cypress]

rmc isn't plausable anymore anyways

an idk about calling the route everyone takes 'your route' but yeah

[pure prairie]

unless pickers can cough up 32 scu boxes its all over

[lusty cypress]

the elevator does like less than that each time its called up

[pure prairie]

the route that i take

dont nitpick me grr

[primal nova]

hey folks wheres best place to start cargo missions... entry level

[lusty cypress]

i don't think it matters too much if doing the entry level

[digital echo]

Which means, at the end of the day, little to no risk. They're essentially just more complex delivery missions lol. The real money will remain in independant cargo trading.

[mild pumice]

for a bit more variety go near Hurston or MT then you get DC locations too

[pure prairie]

so sad rmc got thrown in the bin

[primal nova]

thnx... DC?

[mild pumice]

I've been doing a mix of interstaller and surface ones

distribution center

12 down do far ha ha

12/12 so I'm happy no fails

[lusty cypress]

just a heads up anyone commodity trading, outposts with the 120scu lifts cannot bring up 32 scu boxes. so auto load them or buy 16scu

[coarse ember]

RMC is still a thing it's just more expensive to buy and only sells for 12k per scu now so they just made it less profitable to trade RMC rather than scrape it

[leaden flume]

hey wats a good trade route for hull c?

[midnight nymph]

How can I auto load all the items in my local (Orison) inventory onto my ship? CBA manually loading all these items through the cargo elevator

[visual night]

Can you drag items into 8 SCU crates while it's in local inventory? They probably can't be autoloaded but you can least group things

[midnight nymph]

Ill give it a try

[rigid elk]

having trouble selling at the tdd....i bought laranite, hauled it to area 18 and unloaded it in to the freight elevator. on the tdd console i go to sell and it says Failed Waiting For Pending Result

[north oyster]

Also, the multitool has been slightly nerfed and will not lift 32 SCU in addition to it's range being shortened. MaxLift is your friend, always keep your friends near by

I would recommend if trying to do the "traditional" trade to go ahead and experiment with the autoloading. Start with the largest creates frist. ALSO you must wait for each timer to complete before buying the next size

[lusty cypress]

... which makes it no longer the thing to trade with big ships.

[lusty cypress]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1203696658924314625/1231469673355280434/my-favourite-hull-c-trade-route-updated-for-3-22-0a-v0-uyzcgmpzm0gc1.webp?ex=66d15201&is=66d00081&hm=3ab8a19bda6aad61a5662e2259ff5791221625de8778e06459f0786121b0e661&=&format=webp

[north oyster]

I still lack confidence in the Hull C process being fully functional. But that's just me

[leaden flume]

so if do this should i call my hull c at bajini point or does it matter

[gentle niche]

question about the hull c are u able to load cargo on it on the ground or in a hanger?

[lusty cypress]

no

[lusty cypress]

you can start anywhere, you buy and sell something at each station so you can stop or start anywhere in the loop

[gentle niche]

ok thanks

[leaden flume]

so when i go to the back of my hull c it tells me im trespassing on private property can anyone explain why its telling me this on my own ship?

[midnight nymph]

Where can you buy the 16 or 32 scu containers?

[mild pumice]

if you mean empty storeall you can't

[lusty cypress]

Seems to be a bug with alot of ships atm

[wicked granite]

Is it possible to load an empty SCU with some stuff inside the hangar ? 🤔

[limpid sluice]

Didn't the max also get a nerf?

[north oyster]

Not that I'm aware of, she's a tough as ever

you can still lift most anything with it including the 32 SCU crates

[limpid sluice]

Ah, still same range then? I think movement speed was still reduced though

[torpid garden]

On the issue of when you are going to sell drugs for example in Samson if you have a container of 32 scu you can not keep it in the cargo because of the size, how do you do now to be able to sell 32 scu of example Altruciatoxin?

[lime vessel]

the Avenger don´t have any internal storage now 😦

[limpid sluice]

Along with many other ships

[lime vessel]

probably they will rework all the old ships for the engineer gameplay

[limpid sluice]

Yeah, more things on the "to fix" list

[cinder lantern]

Put a box in it and store miscellaneous stuff there

1 scu boxes and 1/8th scu boxes available

[frank warren]

Thas what I have been doing

Even before 3.24

[mossy radish]

Thanks for the clarification

[mossy radish]

But will you be able to sell it? Read there's size restriction on the scrapyards

[blazing trout]

anyone having issues not seeing mission cargo in warehouse after accepting it? Specifically Seraphim Station in a large hangar (c2)

[north cloak]

Sell W eggs at scrap yards. Sell everything else at grim hex

[vestal ravine]

Also the NQA site is available. Cru l5?? It's safer than Grim Hex.

[tall karma]

GH, CRU-L4/5 all but the eggs.

[wheat moss]

Yes, I believe seraphim station warehouse is broken

At least for contract retrieval

[slate spruce]

I was moving contract cargo from my Taurus via turret tractor beam in Port Tressler hangar, one of the containers glitched into the floor and the ship exploded. I respawned at NB, mission is still active, I flew back to Tressler. Is there any way to get to the hangar with exploded ship or at least the cargo? Or do I have to abandon?

[blazing trout]

Had more issues after this, and now my rep is broken. I'm probably going to let this patch cook for some days before giving cargo another shot ❤️
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/4/thread/broken-cargo-rep

[wheat moss]

Been doing some for a while now and seraphim is the only one, you can do it but just don't get anything that requires retrieval from seraphim

[digital echo]

CRU-L4 has a NQA terminal

[deft nova]

HI does anyone know how to activate the tractor beam on the 315p?

[somber bay]

I think you switch to salvage mode in scm

Middle mouse button or m

[deft nova]

alright

thanks

[mild pumice]

Made it to Member rank that'll do lol (was around 20 missions to get here) from PTU IIRC it was about another 20 to clear member rank - guess that's for tomorrow 😄

[gloomy brook]

why is it so glitchy to buy cargo?

[native cave]

Anyone else having the issue with the cargo not spawning in storage at seraphim station for the fist cargo hauler mission?

In the live version.

[atomic mortar]

Yes, can't do any cargo missions due to that

[native cave]

Is there a RSI issue Council ticket I can Contribute to?

[fair cloak]

I am doing all of mine out of Microtech and not having any issues

Question that keeps coming up...
Can you autoload Hauling missions... and if so... How?

[sharp swift]

From what I've heard: no

Normal commodities: yes

[tired inlet]

Is there an IC for it?

[wheat moss]

IC?

[tired inlet]

Issue council report

[wheat moss]

No clue

[mortal nest]

How to put stuff in the crates in the freight manager

[dreamy river]

Is the cargo for hauling missions supposed to automatically show up in the warehouse or do I need to buy it?

[coarse ember]

its supposed to automatically show up where it's tlling you to pick up from, if you dont see it try click the mission filter, little shield icon far right at the top

[dreamy river]

Hmm not showing up I guess it’s bugged then. Thanks!

[somber bay]

99SCU in a raft, perfect fit

[analog stump]

I had a freight quest get abandoned after I was forcibly logged off but I still have the items, where can I sell them? They are marked as stolen

[lime vessel]

Scrap yards or Grim hex should take them.

[analog stump]

Ok thanks

[lime vessel]

https://youtu.be/CGJepn5lrMs?si=OTKzAAjj_QLGweMf

Check that if you still can‘t sell them

[glass dust]

Anyone know if I can take 8x1SCU box of RMC and put it inside 1x 8SCU box?

[lime vessel]

I saw a stream about it, and it worked

[hollow latch]

Boxception

[dreamy wharf]

anyone have a workaround for when mission cargo doesnt show in local inventory?

[analog stump]

I dont think so people are saying that cargo missions are just broken for now

[glass dust]

Manage to do one yesterday

[eternal vapor]

just did my first bunker and trying to sell the things that i got in it like weavel eggs, but it wont let me sell them at devin's scarp and salvage because of container size, not sure what this means or how to fix this

the image isn’t great but if you zoom in on where it says my items there is a box with a number and a no access symbol on it, no idea what this means

[slate spruce]

There's a small freight elevator at Devlin's (looks like orange rectangle, outside the main circle of buildings), place the goods there instead of selling from ship.

Sized 5x8x3, so it should be able to accept even 32 SCU

[eternal vapor]

okay thank you very much

was just watching a old youtube video where the guy just sells them off his ship

[slate spruce]

Yeah, selling off ships is no longer possible, everything needs to go to freight elevators and under ground to location storage.

[eternal vapor]

alrighty thanks for the help

[hallow hearth]

GJ CIG, not like thats the whole point of 3.24 or anything

[mild pumice]

Those who had the issue with Seraphim, do you remember the commodiy? Was it Silicon? That's the only one I had an issue with and I ran other missions from Seraphim:

[obsidian vortex]

anyone know how much the higher level hauling jobs payout?

[hallow hearth]

Just tried a hauling job from Everus accepting it from a different area. Nope still doesn't work, more rep lost. Uselsss patch and devs.

[hollow latch]

I've heard 180k for one of the higher but not highest tiers

#industrial-professions message

[obsidian vortex]

Wow, good amount. Also i am having troubles packing smaller boxes into the 8scu container. Anyone else having this issue?

[mild pumice]

experienced rank pay 50-80k depending on mission I didn't get above that level in PTU

lol

[eternal vapor]

put the drugs in the freight elevator at devlin's scrap and salvage but it says i only have one unit of goods when i put multiple and when i try to sell it, it says transaction cost mismatch, what does this mean?

[sinful stump]

What is. The best cargo ship as of now

[slate spruce]

Maybe the goods are counted as crates of goods of given size. Are they all 1 SCU containers or bigger?

[runic vale]

How are you suppose to get the cargo for the hauling missions, nothing in the warehouse at location for pickup?

[eternal vapor]

maybe but then what does transaction cost mismatch mean whenever i click the sell button

[hollow sedge]

@sinful stump Best is subjective really. Different jobs have different uses. 3.24 makes you think about taking the right ship for each job.

.

[errant cradle]

I’ll send you what you said

[hollow sedge]

Hull A holds 64 SCU on an external grid, but is small and relatively slow and less agile. Great little ship to get started, but an easy target. Good for small hauling missions and small commodity trading.
.
C1 holds 64 SCU on the internal grid and is quicker/more agile than most. Has a tractor beam. Good option for small hauling missions and commodity trading. Good option for risky RMC trading.
.

RAFT is great for smaller loads, not the fastest or most agile but decent enough, holds 96 SCU on the external grid, can squeeze another ~4 into the airlock. No tractor beam, yet. Good option for small hauling missions and commodity trading.
.

Freelancer MAX holds 120 SCU on the internal storage grid that is the exact same amount you can request in a single load from a commodity trading outpost. Speed and handling are okay, nothing special. No tractor beam. Good option for small/medium hauling missions and commodity trading. Possibly an option for risky RMC trading.
.

Constellation Taurus holds 174 SCU on the internal grid and is a bigger ship with better HP and firepower. Elevator offers good access. Has a tractor beam. Good option for medium/large hauling missions and commodity trading. Worth considering for risky RMC trading, just a bigger target!
.

C2/M2 can hold large quantities of cargo (696/522 SCU) on an internal grid but are bigger targets at outposts and take much longer to load/unload. No tractor beam. Best for large/XL hauling missions and commodity trading.
.

There are other ships like the Corsair (72 SCU - not intentionally meant for cargo), Caterpillar (576 - pain in the ass to load right now). You could use an MSR etc as well.

(sorry for spam, couldn't post original long message!)

[errant cradle]

Yeah the bot ate it, sorry

Flagged it as spam

[sinful stump]

And what about using a hull c ?

[hollow sedge]

Currently many issues but it's the only/best orbital option right now

Not a Hull C owner myself (yet) but heard many bad stories

[sinful stump]

How expensive is it

And how big is its cargo grid

[stark torrent]

Musashi Industrial and Starflight Concern (MISC)

Hull C

As the most-produced ship in the Hull range, the MISC Hull C is widely regarded as the most common and versatile vessel in the galaxy. Designed to occupy the middle ground between smaller, single-person transports and the massive super freighters that dominate the market, the Hull C offers expansive modularity while retaining a degree of maneuverability. With its exceptional configurability, the Hull C is the go-to choice for freighter captains seeking a reliable and adaptable cargo transport solution. Its reputation for defensibility and adaptability has made it the standard for transport jobs across known space.

Role

N/A

Crew

2 – 4

Cargo

4,608.00 SCU

Length

125.00m

Height

55.00m

Beam

55.00m

Mass

N/A

Combat Speed

N/A

Max Speed

N/A

In-Game Price

N/A

Pledge Price

US$500.00

Status

Flight Ready

Links

Galactapedia · Pledge store · Presentation · Trailer · Q&A

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[hollow sedge]

Bear in mind Hull C trade routes are going to get a lot more pirate attention now 😁

[slate spruce]

It's an old bug, when selling quantities >3 of stuff that has a non-round price, the system does the rounding differently on different layers, triggering this. Best known for this is Aphorite, and ROC miners avoid it because of it. I guess with boxes of 4 SCU and bigger it could run into the same issue.

[spare cloud]

Unless they buffed it and I'm not aware, you got the Corsair SCU wrong. It's 72.

[hollow sedge]

My bad, 96 is the stuffed-in-the-back figure I use, not the official one. I'll edit now!

[lusty cypress]

doubt it, no one wants to hand move 4000 scu of anything, especially if at best its like 1mil worth of goods

[hollow sedge]

fair, though given that RMC pirating opportunities are going to reduce now or be a lot harder, you never know 😂

[eternal vapor]

is there a work around for this or am i just unable to sell any of it?

[slate spruce]

If it's happening for a single 1 SCU box, then afaik there's nothing to do about it (apart from filing a report with Issue Council, since it's gotten more pressing than before)

[eternal vapor]

thats a shame. Thank you for all the help though!

[slate spruce]

CIG promised some hotfixes before weekend, so you can maybe try later, before abandoning the boxes for good (or just leaving them in location storage, coming from time to time to check on them...)

[dreamy river]

Running to the same issue. Has happened several times now

[novel dawn]

Hello. Maybe it was asked several times already, but how is Hull C working in 3.24? Thanks!

Oh

i see it was discussed above lol 😄

[lusty cypress]

i haven't been having any new issues with it

[novel dawn]

What about old issues?

[lusty cypress]

the spawning in and the docking collar is still closed is happening still but less frequently, same fix as last time still works

other than that, smooth sailing

[novel dawn]

thanks!

[clever geyser]

If I store my ship, the vulture for example, will I be able to sell everything that in that ship including boxes thrown in areas that arent technically storage areas. Or will it only let me sell the boxes that are locked into hard points?

[lusty cypress]

you will have to move all boxes into the cargo elevator

either automatically for a fee and wait time or manually

[clever geyser]

Ok thanks.

[digital echo]

I imagine sites like UEX and SC Trade Tools haven't been properly updated yet? Those will likely take a few days, right?

[hollow sedge]

Does anyone know why the delivery missions are so buggy? Can't even find the shipment Im supposed to deliver

[hallow hearth]

Because CIG suck. Primary point of this patch doesn't even work

[mild pumice]

The game is alpha and arguably the patch was pushed out a bit too soon, unfortunately the issue with cargo not in the warehouse is known, if you're sure you are doing everything right it's possible you've encountered that bug, it seems most common at Seraphim and Everus Harbor

That said I've run around 30 now and I've only been unable to complete 1

[hollow sedge]

yea it was at everus

[mild pumice]

Hopefully they get a hotfix in soon

[digital echo]

I will actually defend them this time, because the hauling missions worked for a good 95% of the PTU. This was never a thing then. I think this may be server related, as they worked for me when the patch first went live, and then started having issues overnight.

[mild pumice]

Yeah it's probably the age old servers struggling, that really has to improve with server meshing or we're just going to keep going 1 step forward, 3 steps back.

I'm lucky I guess that so many have worked for me, I'm taking a break and doing some salvage now lol

[digital echo]

I started doing independent cargo trading, to figure out best routes.

[deep bison]

Looking forward to seeing what gets found!

[slate spruce]

CIG was rolling out hotfix this night, you probably got caught in server updates.

[digital echo]

So far, RMC can be sold for a profit, but a very small one, so def not worth it anymore.

Gold is best for smaller ships, as inventory is usually pretty limited at the outposts where it's sold.

Beryl is largely available, and in large quantities, so good for medium ships. Decent margins, but not huge unless you're hauling a lot of it.

Hephestanite seems to be most convinient, being available at the gateways, so you can call up 32 SCU boxes. Relatively sheap to buy in bulk, and decent margins.

[crimson mantle]

All depends if you only want auto-loading to be available or you're OK manually loading.

What are people's opinions on moving the 32 scu boxes with the tractor beams?

[digital echo]

Just use the rifle. It's fine

[knotty dove]

Maxlift works great imo, but you just need to practice to find best way to do it

[blazing cedar]

So cargo missions
The cargo is supposed to appear in local storage once you take the job, right?

They're just fucked, yeah?

[lusty cypress]

given you can't even get the 32 boxes out of outposts i can't comment yet haha

[mild pumice]

1 in 30 for me

But it could be getting worse I guess

[blazing cedar]

alright cool cool cool cool cool the literal only feature of this update is completely non functional classic SC

Maybe 4.1 will be worth playing

[mild pumice]

I mean 1 in 30 was broken

I'm half way through member rank

[blazing cedar]

Oh, just straight up none of mine have worked

And everyone in chat is complaining theirs aren't either

[mild pumice]

Guess that server is just rekt

[marsh oak]

Is there any place where the first hauling mission isn't bugged?

[hard siren]

Is there any cargo layout for ships so i can buy the right boxes to buy

any links would help

[digital echo]

The latest pinned message in this channel has a comprehensive guide for all the ships in game currently with grids.

[native elk]

I tried 3 cargo missions last night and the cargo never spawned in my warehouse

[knotty dove]

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/18wttjj/322_ship_cargo_grid_reference_sheet/

[slate spruce]

I just accepted 7 missions, all from Tressler to one DC. Not a single box appeared in warehouse. Bye bye rep, hello outlaw life

[vestal ravine]

Hey there is a new patch this weekend...

[tall karma]

Really missed the boat not making outlaw cargo contracts.

[sharp swift]

Most people are tripping over the same stick, so to speak: Seraphim and Everus.

[golden fern]

I’ve only had issues with baijini for hauling missions. It worked perfectly fine until I chose select all and moved the elevator and it only partially loaded the cargo. The rest of it disappeared. Due to that I cancelled the contract and now that particular space station is always bugged for me if I need to haul from baijini

[slate spruce]

Tressler is the same. Two relogs, no mission cargo ever spawned. Mission cargo in NB spawned without issues.

[mild pumice]

It sounds like whatever system manages the cargo on the back end is dying on its ass, was fine all yesterday.

[knotty dove]

hopping its not RL becouse if RL is dying now with 1DGS+RL how will it be with 4.0 and 4DGS+RL

[tepid tulip]

I have some stuff in my warehouse I want to move into my ship, is there an auto-load or do I have to move each box one by one by one?

[visual night]

There's an autoload, your ship has to be stored. It costs credits and takes time

[tepid tulip]

How do you do that?

[knotty dove]

Man Hull C will be fun when hauling mission bug is fixed

[visual night]

It's an option when you buy cargo for commodities trading. It seems like anything in the warehouse, including mission cargo, can't be autoloaded right now

Unless I'm missing something, that also means I can't stockpile RMC manually, and autoload a C2 with the result

[tepid tulip]

I'm not buying commodities

They're in my Warehouse from when I've been salvaging

Ah wait sorry I misread

[visual night]

Yeah it's a little disappointing. Maybe some day they'll add an option for autoload to the warehouse elevator screen

[limpid sluice]

Would also like an auto-packing option, so i can box up my gear and equipment for transport

[visual night]

I thought the manager screen let you move things into SCU containers, haven't tried yet

[limpid sluice]

Probably, but I have over 1000scu of stuff at Orison (and maybe a slight hoarding problem), and I'd rather it be at Seraphim, and thats a lot of loading crates that I'd rather throw money at someone else to do lol

[tall karma]

Hate how the "move all" feature is completely busted

[visual night]

You can always hire a cargo friend, after you pack and raise the elevator with it

[limpid sluice]

Inventory management needs a lot of work and QoL features, hopefully soon™

[knotty dove]

no it was way better when we had drawers but some backers whole world ended bcouse of them

[limpid sluice]

I mean, it can be great again, still needs work and QoL features lol

[knotty dove]

it was fine there was even search function and better filters but sadly some backers could not handle drawers that took like 5-10s of your time

[limpid sluice]

I would love a stack all button, and an empty all containers button. Drawers sound nice too, but there's still room for further improvement

And would be nice if more things actually stacked

[knotty dove]

thats CIG problem they rather scrap whole idea than actually fix it

[limpid sluice]

Feedback threads are open right now, give feedback if you haven't already. I've been writing up some stuff in them myself

[median pond]

what is a popular trade route

im new to cargo and dont really know what im doing

[coral shale]

how do i get the cargo off this ship i destroyed?

[spring olive]

same way you get cargo off a ship that isn't destroyed - tractor beam

[coral shale]

they butchered the range of the tractor beam and now i cant even reach it unless im standing directly in front of it

[spring olive]

there are more options for tractor beams than the multitool

[tall karma]

This is why the Taurus is best for murder cargo

[coral shale]

im using a cutty black, which has a tractor beam but its the worst piece of shit ever, i dont think they tested it when they made it, they just slapped it in and said looks good.

[tall karma]

Well it'll get the cargo out onto the ground at least

[coral shale]

idk about that. theres a lack of a beam coming from this tractor beam, unless im doing something wrong

its just lmb by default right?

[spring olive]

https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-125199

[coral shale]

alr thx, ship is useless

[slate spruce]

Depends on ship size. Probably the most universal answer is beryl from Ita (Ryder or Woodruff) to Lorville.

[frank warren]

I feel this

At one point I had to put stuff into SCU containers so I could mass sell armor and guns

As it was taken ages to sell stuff

[limpid sluice]

i got mine from 117% to 101% selling what I could, but inventory was definitely not fully loading at market kiosks, and couldnt sell everything i wanted to even when it did 😦

[frank warren]

I would through stuff in a SCU container and just sell it at the Cargo Hold in Port Tressler

Because SCU containers were broken and could store any amount. Even past its limits

It was nice

Wonder if they fixed the issues with the containers and showing infinite storage

[tall karma]

You can load all your weapons and armor into SCU crates in the warehouse and then go to a store and sell all the contents of a box immediately. You don't get full price, but it clears out the inventory

Just moving stuff into the scu boxes isn't working great either

[dire needle]

is ideal trading still smo-18 to nb selling gold or is there any decent routes?

[dusty oracle]

they fix hauling yet so i can start doing it?

[slate spruce]

If you get the freight elevator to work then yes. No price changes so far it seems.

[earnest sage]

I tried to put like 20 armor pieces + 50 missiles into freight cargo but they came up all over the place! is there a way to put them in a big box?

[hollow sedge]

where is the cargo lift at brios?

nvm im dumb i found it

[earnest sage]

I picked a eval mission saying pick up 6SCU of Corundum from Baijini freight elevator and deliver to Riker but there is nothing in the freight elevator, should I buy 6SCU and deliver it or what am I missing?

is it broken?

[hallow hearth]

You cant buy replacement cargo. It's just broken, which is hilarious given these missions are the entire point of the patch

[earnest sage]

so if the contract says pick x number of x cargo from this station and the hanger dont show it = broken? no bypass around it? abandon the mission?

[hallow hearth]

yep, no way around it

[earnest sage]

ship size on pad dont matter? or even ship being on the pad dont matter?

[hallow hearth]

Nope.

[earnest sage]

this suxk

[hallow hearth]

yep

[earnest sage]

I am LIVE what the hell do I show as 3.24? lol

[quaint bronze]

people my cargo box dont show up anymore when I take the mission and also my hangar have many old containers from previously failed mission what should I do with them

[hallow hearth]

Cargo still doesnt work on Hotfix build LMAO

[vestal ravine]

Hang in there and pray!!!

[north oyster]

PSA: Using Auto-Load process for a C2 to haul Heph from Pyro to A18.
Time penalty for loading is 4:50, Time penalty to unload is 5:38
Net after paying fees (fees are the same regardless of what you are hauling)
just under $233,000 aUEC profit

[north oyster]

Also, Farrister did a great little printer video worth watching

[mossy radish]

it still doesnt work???

[hallow hearth]

Now my Covalex rep is so low after all these bugged hauling missions I literally don't even get them offered anymore. Meaning even IF they fix them I cant do them. This is fucking garbo.

[mighty prawn]

Is it possible for you to do the mission with someone else who still have access to hauling mission to fix your rep?

[hallow hearth]

sounds like the only potential option

once its fixed I'll piggy back with yall

[visual night]

If it works like other rep, you'll get a re-cert contract after a while. Not sure how long before it shows up or how it works with hauling

[gloomy brook]

are there any cargo orgs?

[burnt storm]

!org

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[upbeat stream]

any place where the intro hauling mission is on land? not working at new babage

[knotty dove]

i belive all intro missions are from LEO to spaceport and Orison also does not work

[upbeat stream]

im getting pickup from tressler to greycat production center

[wintry holly]

does anyone know if there has been a fix or a work around for that intro Hauling mission. Im not able to get it working on any of the LEOs

[upbeat cape]

No. I just got off the game for the same reason

[wintry holly]

lol gotcha, glad I'm not alone

[frosty sentinel]

how bad is the reduction for stolen contract cargo

[plush gulch]

SCU for my haul mission isnt in warehouse, where do i get it to go to my elevator?

[slate spruce]

You don't, it's currently broken.

[lusty cypress]

idk if anyone else has been doing much commodity trading but i think hull-c is the way to go this patch

[frosty sentinel]

from pyro to where>

[lusty cypress]

?

was refering to in general profit per hour as well as roi per run

[frosty sentinel]

what runs are u using for it

[lusty cypress]

ive tried a few different routes so far, baijini everus hephaestanite was decent profit but i had to wait to sell all of it

profits only seem 100k less than c2 and you don't have to spend as much time loading/unloading as well as landing / taking off

[knotty dove]

not much of an advice considering Hull C is broken

[lusty cypress]

how so?

you don't need to dock it at all if that's what you're implying

i spent 2 hours yesterday in the hull c and 2 in the c2, and i was alot more successful in the hull c, especially when it came to encountering bugs

[knotty dove]

got that commencing cargo transfer stuck at 0:00

[lusty cypress]

before the cargo is loaded up? you just leave box, retract spindals (or not, unsure if necessary) and call cargo lady again and it fixes that for me

[knotty dove]

yeah

[lusty cypress]

thats like a 20 second delay at most

hardly enough to claim hull c broken; null advice

[knotty dove]

gonna try this anyways whats best trade runs anyways JPs or LEOs?

[lusty cypress]

depends on goods and if you want to loop so you're always buying selling

[knotty dove]

So first trade runs still eork

[hallow hearth]

missions are fucked, don't work at all

[mild pumice]

I've been staying away from LEOs, they seem to be working for other locations, dropping at LEO is fine

[quaint bronze]

old cargo from failed mission filling my inventory, cargo from fresh missions dont show up anymore, anyone else has the same issues ?

[hearty wren]

Is there a workaround for the waiting for cargo transfer? (Im not sure if this is exactly what it says)

So basically, I sold my RMC without unloading it first in TDD, NB - and I had to put the cargo inside the freight and send it down as per the TDD instructions.
I did see the sell price in the freight kiosk. Problem is, I did not receive the payment after selling it. Cargo is gone from the warehouse, TDD kiosk shows that they are still waiting for the cargo to be manually unloaded.

Is this a known issue as well?

[sharp swift]

How do you mean?

[lusty cypress]

Docking the hull c at stations

[sharp swift]

Can you expound a little more? You bring a laden hull c and... Auto unload in the hangar?

[lusty cypress]

no its the same as last patch

land on/next to pad, go inside buy cargo, take it to cargo loading/unloading area.

[knotty dove]

Wouldnt atc inpound it if you land on pad?

[lusty cypress]

why? everyone leaves their ships there all the time

and you just land next to it when you're loaded

[knotty dove]

Thank im just delivering cargo with it

[knotty dove]

yay completed it and earned 280k

[lusty cypress]

hell yeah

what commodities you run?

[knotty dove]

processed food Bajini to Everus

[lusty cypress]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1203696658924314625/1231469673355280434/my-favourite-hull-c-trade-route-updated-for-3-22-0a-v0-uyzcgmpzm0gc1.webp?ex=66d3f501&is=66d2a381&hm=42e85fecc15f327e229e08468e39c30e5e04f30d01e3d021ad7281619c82104c&=&format=webp

where you doing this one?

numbers are from .22 so obviously not same costs and profits

[knotty dove]

hey is it just me or Hull C is loaded/unloaded really fast?

[lusty cypress]

i believe seraphim now sells helium which is pretty good, can sell at pyro for 304k profit or baijini for 313k

[lusty cypress]

yeah i think its changed, might be a bug though since my timer for loading hasn't been showing up

used to be 5min per load/unload

[knotty dove]

im waiting for hauling missions to work for Hull C so it can start to shine

[lusty cypress]

hauling missions will not have similar profits though

[knotty dove]

but upside of not dealing with docking and no upfront costs is worth it

[sharp swift]

What quantum drive do you use for hauling w/ the Hull C?

[knotty dove]

did not changed it yet so Kama

[tall karma]

TS2 is best

[knotty dove]

anyways loaded Hull C feels like a container ship any course corrections take time

[lusty cypress]

i use ts2

[lusty cypress]

yeah i love it, actual space trucking

[glass kernel]

so do ANY of the intro hauling missions work or is it 100% busted right now? I've tried the seraphim to orison one like 4x

maybe i need to go elsewhere?

[sharp swift]

You've tried (one of) the worst one(s)

[glass kernel]

Where do you recommend I go?

[sharp swift]

I've heard zero complaints regarding Baijini

...so far

[glass kernel]

Ill give that a shot

thanks

[sharp swift]

Be sure to report back on your findings

[burnt storm]

Guess I’ll give it a shot

[knotty dove]

If Hull C is so slow to turn what will Hull D need SRV to act as tug?

[lusty cypress]

D and E aren't out, i don't think there is currently a need to speculate. but i think they will just be slower, not necessary tug needed

[glass kernel]

No luck at BNaijini for me

[sharp swift]

Is the contract tracked? Try toggling it

[glass kernel]

Tried toggling it

There's no cargo in the warehouse is the problem

Tried abandoning it and grabbing a new one, same thing. then tried "submit" to close that one and grab a new one, same thing

[ivory charm]

If you already did the entry-mission, all lagrange-point stations should work. The planetside stations are not working at all

[sharp swift]

Don't abandon too many or your rep will go down, just relog

[glass kernel]

The entry mission is what I'm having problem with so I can't access those ones yet

[glass kernel]

Doesn't relogging just auto-abandon it

[sharp swift]

It drops it without affecting your rep

[glass kernel]

I thought logging with an open contract still affected rep

[sharp swift]

People on reddit were complaining about negative rep due to all the failures but someone chimed in with that tip

[coarse cape]

What

[sharp swift]

I haven't tested it out personally, but it's worth a shot considering the known alternative

[coarse cape]

I had 4 juniors and logged and now I’m not eligible

[glass kernel]

I dont thin kyou actually even have rep until you do the intro mission - rep for hauling doesn't exist for me yet in the rep tab

[proper arch]

Hello guys, I was wondering, I have a Connie Andromeda, and lately I've been kinda tired of fighting, and I've been wanting to try my luck at trading, do y'all have any pro tips ? Thanks

[wet aurora]

Baijini doesnt work for me at all

[glass kernel]

Tried relogging and baijini still doesn't work. i'm gonna head to Lorville and try there

[sharp swift]

seems like everywhere is broken then

[sharp swift]

Start small and don't spend all your money on a single trip.

[glass kernel]

also landing services hasn't worked once yet in the hangars

cant refuel 😄

[sharp swift]

That's been spotty for me too, ship detection is not 100%

[tepid tulip]

How do I do autoloading?

[worldly peak]

How much are y'all making an hour with the contracts?

[sharp swift]

I went from Baijini to Everus w/ food, landed on pad and sold, told me to go to cargo area. I've requested from cargo but I'm not getting another box to fly into to drop off cargo...what am I doing wrong?

@knotty dove do you know either?

(in Hull C)

[lusty cypress]

whats the audio queue? is it telling you to unload?

[sharp swift]

Cargo here -- let's see what ya got

[lusty cypress]

and nothing after that line?

usually it tells you to pull up or that you have nothing

[sharp swift]

Right, nothing

[lusty cypress]

did you check if you actually sold?

[sharp swift]

My money didn't go up

[lusty cypress]

the commodity should tell you ready to unload

you get paid after the loading is done

[knotty dove]

nah it just worked for me but that was 24h after getting Hull C with leftover storecredits so im new to it.

[sharp swift]

Is it an order of operations thing?

I showed up, landed near pad and went in to sell, terminal said "ok now go to cargo area to unload". I pinged cargo after getting back in ship and nothing has happened

[knotty dove]

to sell you need to use terminal first then go unload

2 things Hull C is risky from release plus 3.24 is buggy mess

[sharp swift]

I got closer to the pad and now cargo says checking for an open slot

Good sign

[knotty dove]

i think for time being i will use regular cargo ships(C2,cat) just lost 1.4mil due to bug

[sharp swift]

Jesus the NPC scanners are out in FORCE today

[knotty dove]

watch it they also have ramming trendecys

[sharp swift]

Swapped servers, maybe that'll help

Yep! Got a spot right away

[sharp swift]

And now this is stuck on my screen no matter what

[frosty sentinel]

Had this last patch. Never got rid of it.

All I can say is good luck, and at least it doesn’t actually affect gameplay

[sharp swift]

Hah, great

[frosty sentinel]

Yeah…I’d say the risks of bugs with cargo and bugs unrelated to cargo make the hull c generally an unnecessary risk. Use a C2 and do pyro to other stations

Or other routes

[sharp swift]

So it stays on across logins/resets no matter what?

[frosty sentinel]

I never tried resets as they have literally never fixed anything for me since they became the repairs instead of resets

But yeah

Stayed there when in ships across servers and log ins.

Including going to EU and all those tricks

I just learned to play with it

Ur lucky, u got it at a start. We probably will have several more hotfix patches and they said we will get .x patches too. Should go away…should

[burnt storm]

What intro hauling mission worked for people?

[proper arch]

Fair answer, I don't want to commit entirely to cargo though, I like the huge number of missiles

Will check then

[sharp swift]

Testing something, apparently if you pick up 1 SCU of whatever and request claim but then wait out the timer, the message will go away

[rigid elk]

guys does auto load work? gna try renting a cat but dont think i could possibly bear manually loading 576 scus

[frosty sentinel]

Good to know! Thank you lol

[sharp swift]

About to test it out now

arriving at Baijini

[frosty sentinel]

It works on stations and cities. And it only works for cargo not part of missions

Also it won’t be as bad as you think moving the boxes. They aren’t 576 1 SCU boxes

[frosty sentinel]

Lmk

[knotty dove]

i manualy loaded C2 in PTU you get used to it

[rigid elk]

but the cat is elevated no

im gonna have to like go up and down over and over

[knotty dove]

not really just put cargo out of elevator alongside Cat then board cat and tractor cargo into cat

[rigid elk]

cant someone come along and just start stealing my cargo with their tractor beam lol

[frosty sentinel]

At out posts yes technically

Hence why outposts are more meant for smaller cargo ships. Even then, they need to work on getting ways for us to combat it or for NPCs to police depending on the legal stuff where you are in the verse. They said they are working on it

[knotty dove]

at outposts yes, but Cat is not meant to be used at outposts

[rigid elk]

so what commodity should i be trading then with the cat

[frosty sentinel]

Resources are still being updated I think, but you can use SC trader and stuff.

I believe there is a good hephestine route from pyro gateway to a station, I forget which one.

[knotty dove]

atm more hauling missions when they work

[frosty sentinel]

There are also some other commodities

Then yeah

Cargo missions when they work

I still really want to find out how much pirated mission cargo sells for

[knotty dove]

Pyro JP to any other other JP but its worth it with hull C only

[frosty sentinel]

I was looking at it with ships other than hull c earlier I think

C2

Pyro loriville with a cat is 250k or so profit

That’s not bad at all lol

[knotty dove]

did you actualy check it or just trust what you are told

[sharp swift]

Had to bedlog since cargo dispatch was held up again, spawned next to Stanton instead of right next to Baijini

[frosty sentinel]

Yeah SC trade tools

[knotty dove]

no hard feelings but i dont trust that site

[frosty sentinel]

Iv had no issues with it

[knotty dove]

based on what im seeing Medical supplies,Gold and Beryl are still best profit wise for Cat and C2

but remember doing gold run is tempting fate

[frosty sentinel]

I just checked UEX as well. Same numbers

[unreal niche]

Has anyone tried just buying the X amount of X type of cargo to get past the starter hauling mission? Or is the cargo "special"?

[honest igloo]

Where is distilled spirits available?

[slate spruce]

Farms generally

[sharp swift]

Waiting it out did not work, now trying to do it again and flying away

[inner summit]

does anyone know the best way to offer loading services to others? Like idependent contracting? I have thought of making a form or a discord server, but passing a link over global chat in game does not seem like a great idea

[sharp swift]

probably #looking-for-session

[mild pumice]

How tricky is loading the Caterpillar? There's quite a few missions once you get to experienced rank that could make it viable

[frosty sentinel]

It’s not too bad

[mild pumice]

I might grab one in game

Medium > Experienced have some missions around 300scu in 16scu boxes so should fit. I'd love to do those with my Carrack but they keep forcing me to use my C2 lol.

I started doing a 100 and a 400 ish together one mission in thr front, one in the back kinda setup.

[wet aurora]

didn't CIG mention smth about being able to select your box sizes yourself?

[spare cloud]

Not for hauling missions

But for your own trading yeah

[wet aurora]

oh alright, so when buying cargo yourself, then you can select the size of the boxes yeah? Does the mission state which size of boxes it will feature?

[spare cloud]

I think it doesn't

[wet aurora]

I suppose it's part of the difficulty setting... it's just a bit unfortunate for the caterpillar since other ships with similar and lower SCU cap can have 32SCU containers...

I would like to know what size the boxes are before accepting a mission

[spare cloud]

Off grid is good too

Cat can fit 2x32SCU per compartment

[wet aurora]

I never tried

[wheat moss]

It doesn't tell you the sizes of the boxes, but it will tell you the maximum size

And from what I've seen it tries to always put the max amount of a size before putting lower sizes

[wet aurora]

I have seen 100 SCU of the same matwrial be put in many 8scu boxes. I think it depends on the difficulty

[wheat moss]

Yes, that's why the contract description need to be read, you can calculate the boxes you'll have, for example on a 13 scu contract with max size being 4scu you know you will have 3x4scu and 1x1scu

The quantity that has to be delivered doesn't impact the max size you will receive, the description does it

[wet aurora]

alright, I'll check again soon. Didn't see the max size info in the mission description yet.

[wheat moss]

That's a 2x4 scu crate for example if i take that one

I dont know if it is 100%reliable tough

[wet aurora]

I struggled with the cargo not appearing in the warehouse until someone said to go to the lagrange points (to take the from <lagrange point> missions)

that helps, thanks

[wheat moss]

Your welcome

[coarse cape]

Juniors will state max size from what I’ve seen

Like it’ll say what the biggest box is. Won’t say how many though

[wet aurora]

that's fine. That's all I need to know. I didn't take the time to read the long description yet and that's on me.

[vestal mantle]

Wait....there is a fix for cargo not showing up in the warehouse??

[burnt storm]

I’ll give it a shot

[vestal mantle]

Which stations are at larange points?

[sharp swift]

The ones which aren't right above the planet's city

L + number

[vestal mantle]

Thank you

[spare cloud]

I tried that, but not a single hauling contract ever spawns when I'm at a L point

[brisk reef]

Hi i need some help maybe i'm doing something wrong i don't know tbh. I bought 4906 scu worth of helium for my hull c at seraphim. So i got into my hull c requested cargo services and flew to the box it gives you. Everytime i get in it however and stand completely still (even engine off and yes spindle is extended) the game freaks out and just start repeatedly spitting line of there was an error transfering your cargo make sure the area is clear stuff. Anyone know how to fix this?

[golden fern]

I heard someone say that retracting and extending the spindle again fixed it for them

[brisk reef]

Didn't work for me i even stored my ship again, claimed a new one and retried it all

just doesn't work for me anymore since 3.24 for some reason

guess the game got another 950k ish richer ig

pretty sure i'm not seeing that cargo ever again

[tepid tulip]

You can't get crates bigger than 8 SCU from outposts right?

[stark echo]

Same here

[neon obsidian]

same

[burnt storm]

same

[burnt storm]

bigger than 16 I believe, they're size 24 scu elevators

[maiden steppe]

For the cargo mission do I need to do something to get my mission cargo in the freight elevator?

Trying to do the first hauling mission on MT and have no idea how to get quartz to pop up at port tressler.

[tardy umbra]

Yeah, I think unfortunately that's why they're reporting degraded status, issues with getting cargo to pop.

See #rsi-status message

[maiden steppe]

Ah saw the degraded performance message but didn't actually read it. Oh well. Still got double hot dogs.

[tardy umbra]

Yep, though I'd say it's at least promising that they consider this one bad enough to report that status. It is kind of the main point of the patch, so I suspect they'll get to it sooner rather than later FWIW.

[maiden steppe]

I'm sure they want their shiny new mission type to work in PU as soon as possible.

[burnt storm]

I went to Lagrange points and didn’t get any missions. Tried cru-L2, mic L5, Hur-L1, and Terra-Stanton jump point

But as soon as I go to any planet station I got missions

I only have access to the certification mission

Which I don’t think spawns at Lagrange points

That’s that only one I’ve seen 🤷‍♂️ I’ll wait for the fix

[tall karma]

Any pro tips to getting an intro to hauling mission to succeed? Do they pop up at any places I'm not checking that might work where the normal stations do not?

Clearly there is a well known issue with empty warehouse at planetary stations, was wondering if you could get the intro missions at gates or L1s or something.

[wheat moss]

I don't think it spawns elsewhere than leo stations, and sadly there's nothing else than trying and trying and trying or wait for a fix, they just get worse the more time pass by

[lime vessel]

Yesterday i could get stuff from missions at Orison and Mining Area.

[tall karma]

Yeah, those aren't the starting missions though. Would love to join you and get one of these post-starting missions shared!

[lime vessel]

You mean a rookie one?

we can try to share one of them.

[tall karma]

Correct.

[lime vessel]

All right lets try ist pm me

[frosty sentinel]

Do I need to be in my own hangar to see the cargo on the loading screen for a mission? I cant be in a party members?

[golden fern]

heads up. if you are sharing hauling missions to help others get past the intro hauling mission. doing a junior rank mission will almost level their rep up from trainee, to rookie, and almost all the way to junior

[tall karma]

Any way to fix the freight elevator terminals at mining stations when they are stuck in the "Active" state? Can't interact with one.

[vestal ravine]

I didn't see a "sell" button at the main trade terminals at Orison. How do we sell things? I put my crate of RMC into the warehouse.

[tall karma]

The terminal at a mining station where I was attempting to get some cargo for a hauling mission was displaying the UI as though it was active - someone using it. It was not interactible.

Every time I bedlog it seems to put me - in my ship - at the center of stanton. Inconvenient, but at least it doesn't make me claim my ship or something.

[main saddle]

What location are you selecting to sell from?

[humble merlin]

You ARE the Star Citizen

[vestal ravine]

At Orison. I took the crate off the Vulture.

[main saddle]

In the sell screen, did you select local inventory to sell from?

[vestal ravine]

Not sure, I can check tomorrow.

[main saddle]

I don't remember exactly what it's called, but, yeah, it wouldn't be from the Vulture at that point.

[coarse ember]

It would be in the city inventory

[simple lintel]

I am trying to get my fist cargo mission, accepted it already, but the cargo does not show in the elevator, what am I doing wrong?

[main saddle]

it’s bugged currently

cargo isn’t spawning for the hauling mission. hence the “degraded” performance notice on the launcher

[clever geyser]

how do i split the stack. got a stack of 166 scu and the elivator only holds 120?

[lime vessel]

Right click and split.. i guess

[humble merlin]

Brios broken?

[wheat estuary]

Hi I am new, what is the best cargo route please?

[mild pumice]

damn this is slow going I think that's 9 or so member missions already :/

I weas hoping to see 1/2 way at least lol

[mild pumice]

I think it's still being figured out for 3.24 as it's a whole new cargo flow, what ships do you have as this will make a big difference?

with this patch they added more Cargo ships available to rent, the best one would be the constellation taurus as it takes like 170(ish) SCU - the only downside is you can't change the QD on the rental and it's a slow industrial one I believe.

[golden fern]

2nd slowest quantum drive at its size

It was painful taking like 14 minutes going from a18 to new Babbage

[tidal field]

is sc-trade-tools still the go to for prices?

[vestal ravine]

I went back to the Orison TDD and there is no "local" inventory tab there is only one for
"Orison" and that call out does not show the RMC nor does any of the other tabs for the Commodities. Also, I would think there should be some kind of a "sell" button but there is only Buy and Local Market Value information. Seems glitched and my 1 scu crate of RMC is in the void somewhere. EDIT: My 1 scu crate is in the warehouse at Orison. I guess this glitch needs to be fixed later on unless I'm just stupid. Which I am at times. EDIT: I fixed this by leaving the RMC in the ship, go to the TDD, then offload to the local freight elevator.

[vestal ravine]

In general yes but there may be some updating going on since this cargo update is so new. For RMC I have seen a range of 12 k to 14 k.

[tidal field]

One more question: Should I just buy the fastest possible quantum drive? Or will I be running into fuel issues

[hollow latch]

Generally yes but it depends on the ship some with low tanks might want a slower and more efficient qd

[tidal field]

raft?

I don't even know where to check the fuel tank size really

[hollow latch]

Raft has huge qd tanks so go for speed

[vestal ravine]

You can use erkul.games website to view the ships capabilities.

[crimson mantle]

We're as up to date as everything else out there!
Of course it's still contingent on player reports.

[cloud condor]

anything worth trading these days in a C2 or Hull C?

[hollow latch]

beryl is still good for c2

[crimson mantle]

Hephastenite in a C2 can be done with only autoloading. It's not bad at all.
Not 3.23 RMC levels, but not bad.

[cloud condor]

thx

[marsh oak]

Can anyone help me get hauling contracts, I am still stuck on the first one that is bugged

[slate spruce]

Try going to an L-point and check the contract tab there, mission cargo spawning in L-x stations afaik works.

[marsh oak]

I tried it, the first mission can only be accepted for LEO's

[slate spruce]

I've done it, you think party up, sharing it and finish it would kick you over the need to do it? (I have Lx hauling contracts available)

[marsh oak]

Yes, I need someone to party up with

[maiden steppe]

Am I right in thinking that vulture salvage around a Lagrange point and then storing RMC and picking up bulk loads in a cargo ship is a thing now?

[brittle snow]

how do I sell my hadanite now?

[spare cloud]

From your backpack

[spare cloud]

Yeah

[brittle snow]

so... if I have 1500 hadanite I have to fill my inventory with 70 hadanite each time I have to selll and make +20 trips?

[spare cloud]

Get a novikov or prembroke undersuit with the large backpack in the cargo deck and carrry ~140 gems instead

Then make the trips

[brittle snow]

I hope you're joking

[spare cloud]

I wish

[brittle snow]

damn. I wanted to play a game, not have another job >.<

[maiden steppe]

SIR. This is a simulation and we are play testers! We're all here because we aren't punished enough in our day jobs and need more to feel fulfilled.

Everyone secretly wants to be QA and this allows folks to pay to realize that dream in space.

[brittle snow]

they said they don't want this to be a simulator or arcade, but something inbetween

[golden fern]

A simulated arcade

[maiden steppe]

/s

I'm here because I like pressure washer simulator in my big Tonka space ship

[tidal field]

Man, the raft is awful

Would throwing 20$ at the problem and upgrading to a freelancer max be a dumb decision?

[knotty dove]

IMO MAX is great but just shows its age however im against solutions that require throwing money at problem

[tidal field]

Well the alternative is I refund down to my aurora and stop playing

I don't even know really

[knotty dove]

well besides MAX i would say C1 and upcoming Zeus CL are great options as well

[tidal field]

What're the prices like on those? I'm only looking at the freelancer cause the upgrade costs 17$

[knotty dove]

CL was 150USD same as MAX, but sadly price increase is expected when it becomes flyable but C1 is priced same as raft

[lusty cypress]

Zeus CL will be a great pickup for 150usd (it will go up ~10-15% when released)

[maiden steppe]

Nope. I ran around with the max in free fly and liked it

[knotty dove]

yeah you can load like 2 URSAs if you are brave

[tall karma]

Did commodity values change significantly to the point where I might pay attention to legal trade items dropped by bounties?

[maiden steppe]

I load a C8R in a Corsair to make a mid sized medical ship. I ain't scared.

[tall karma]

Easier to do the Nursa

[knotty dove]

not yet

[maiden steppe]

I agree. But I don't have one

[tall karma]

Easy solution! 🤑

[torn flame]

Anyone else having issues selling to TDD? The manual loading loses my inventory, and trying to store the ship and have them take it just gives me errors

[golden fern]

Stick with the max until you can get to the Taurus or larger. The freelancer max has an easy to access storage system and is just big enough for the medium hauling missions

[stable comet]

what dont you like ?

[tidal field]

harder to drive than a C2, putting cargo in is janky, slower than walking, no tractor beam

I guess the fact that it has 28k QT fuel is a plus

[stable comet]

i found you really need to use the vtol with the raft otherwise the vertical movement is horrible

big win is the size 2 quantum drive, i can do crusader to arccorp in 4 mins in the raft it, it took 8 in the hull a with best quantum drive

[lusty cypress]

you want bad performance? fly a fully loaded hull c

and watch the planet orbit faster than you can rotate

[tidal field]

That's not really a fair comparison though

[lusty cypress]

tbf, neither is comparing the c2 to the raft, especially since crusader engines are way better than every other ship

[stable comet]

raft has a top tier kitchen though