industrial-professions

[muted sparrow]

....

AWAKENED

cooldown resset

[frail linden]

what about teh boxes of drugs inside should i take them too?

also im clicking on the item to buy them from the screen and nothings happening

[spare cloud]

Did you select your ship first ?

[frail linden]

ahh got it there yh

[near swallow]

We don't know that persistent hangars will be in 3.23.2, but a .2 update is likely after ILW. Possible hangars might not be until a .3 update or later though.

[frail linden]

i bought neon at the first spot for 10 SCU but the second spot sells for 5 SCU tho

[spare cloud]

Wdym you bought 10 SCUs I thought you had a Mustang

Boths spots can have up to 20 SCUs of good drugs, and some more of less good ones

[frail linden]

no, you said to just buy the most expensive one and that neon one which was 10 SCU each or something for like 14k

[spare cloud]

Ah, you mean aUEC per SCU

[frail linden]

yh

[versed egret]

Would it be worth getting one cargo and one torp module for the tali? Or is 36 scu minimal

Haven’t played since like 3.10 so all this is very new. Cargo would just appear on your ship and all that back in the day

[fresh fractal]

why?????

[spare cloud]

They're duping

[fresh fractal]

I don't understand how that works 🤷‍♂️

Why do you park outside?

[visual night]

Because selling again requires the ship to not be stored, and leaving it outside means it won't be. So they backspace, wake up in a medbay, sell again

[fresh fractal]

lol ffs people 🤣

[visual night]

Yeah it's pretty rude, and very hard/impossible to clear the ships. They'll sit there until the server dies/resets completely, which is more rare now than in 3.22

At least at NB there's an outside door to park at, and you can fly the ship away. If the duper isn't lazy af

[fresh fractal]

how do you access A18 from outisde or have they already sold at this point?

[visual night]

I'm guessing they sell, then claim the ship and get a new one. I don't abandon my ships like that so I don't know for sure

In theory you could grab a different ship, then get back to the parked C2 and fly out. Will still leave a smaller one behind so I doubt they even bother (unless it fits inside)

[velvet shoal]

I want to clean it up, but the .1 patch stole my Reclaimer.

[visual night]

Someone was trying to tow them out and was struggling, even with two SRVs attempting to tow

I need to get better aim at 20km with my A2...

[stiff vine]

So if you're ROC mining (or any mining I imagine) during a RL handover it duplicates the remaining nodes right on top of each other. Pretty cool side effect but the twin nodes don't share the same stats and you fracture both simultaneously. I'm getting eye strain watch the charge meter and optimal zone bounce around trying not to overload a stone 😆

[vestal ravine]

Isn't there a elevator in that area with all the trade ships?

[somber bay]

Huh

[spare cloud]

No surface entrance

Requesting landing with a herc always gives a hangar with door in top iirc, so technically you can request landing, land next to hangar and jump down.

Breaking your legs, but it's alright, quick med gun and everything's fine

[wraith ice]

how is hull c looking this patch

[brittle kraken]

Even worse I'm afraid

It is now very difficult to get onboard it.

It won't connect the docking port when you call it

So you either need a friend to fly you to it or to EVA 5km from a pad

And the method of spawning something else in a hangar and then spawning your Hull C no longer works as it will still put it at a docking port

I understand the glitch might be hard to fix so why can't the temporarily put an EVA airlock at each port so you can easily access it?

[limpid sluice]

Feel like it'd be easier to fix the issue than to rework all the stations to add additional airlocks

[brittle kraken]

I agree, but its been around for a while now and they still haven't fixed it, I don't see any other explanation

[limpid sluice]

The list on the known issues page has been getting longer and longer, the explanation is pretty obvious. CIG priority is elsewhere

Only suggestion I can add, is to call a small ship, fly it to a pad, go back in and then call the Hull C out, use your ship to fly over to it. Might be faster than EVA if you don't have a friend available?

[brittle kraken]

Thats not a bad suggestion tbf, might want to leave the ship just outside the pad as sometimes they are recognised and will be stored again

I just checked the IC and its the 13th most contributed issue so I really hope they are working on it. Perhaps we will have to wait till 4.0

[sullen rain]

Are the Hull C activities still broken? Just got one today and right after I read that it's all still borked

[limpid sluice]

Maybe they'll fix it for the cargo updates coming up

[brittle kraken]

Yeah thats my thinking. Can't update cargo and still have the flagship cargo ship not working.

[sullen rain]

Right?? I thought I was about to be a walking money bag but.....

[brittle kraken]

It wasn't that profitable before hand tbh. C2 is still much better

[sullen rain]

Well ship

[odd rampart]

how i know wher to buy cargo in each location?

[sullen rain]

At planets in the TDD, in stations at the cargo station

[brittle kraken]

It is usually either the admin at space stations, tdd at cities or the terminals on outposts

You best bet for any individual place is to google where its trade point is

[sullen rain]

Yeah, in some cases, locations will have more than one building, it's trial and error until you remember at that point

[odd rampart]

wher is one in Hurston?

[sullen rain]

Oh and at Distribution Centers, good luck

[limpid sluice]

Oh, can you actually buy stuff from DC's? Haven't really been in them much yet, haven't seen them listed in any trade sites, I don't think?

[violet wharf]

yay just lost my last 200k trying to run cargo. was dropping off at a18 and cargo was there when I landed and empty when I went to admin and the trade area.. flew to crusader and also empty.. WHYYY star citizen whyyyy

freaking quartz man

[muted walrus]

U run quartz?

I rand gold from new bagged and one of the mining sites there it is pretty safe

[violet wharf]

i was just using sc-trade and it said it was what I could rn

[muted walrus]

Ahh I might run some trade runs tonight you are welcome to run escort the me lucrative the goods I trade the more I make the more I make the more you make

[brittle kraken]

Yeah its a bug, I think you can lose your cargo when storing the ship

But im not 100% sure thats what causes it

[violet wharf]

sure! want me on the ship, or flying next to you?

@ducky_exe is my name ingame

or ducky_exe, yea

I wanna do more cargo runs, I just dont feel like the current bounty situation is sustainable. I've been doing MRT and HRTs solo and none of the ships that could have cargo have any cargo. must be some bug

[muted walrus]

A dedicated ship would be good. I also had two other people who will join so I should be able to trade big tickets goods

[hollow sedge]

@ARGO DESIGNERS the caterpillar and the vulcan should be argo ships instead and i can't believe you let them take that stuff. the vulcan is like when your child looks exactly like the next door neighbor

[violet wharf]

if were gonna have people, I could bring a hammerhead

[muted walrus]

Sure we will see

[vestal ravine]

Your cargo grid can be infected by the grid duplication glitch. Be careful with your trades.

[green escarp]

anyone need an extra hand? Id like to learn some of the better ways to make money even if its just sitting on a turret or moving stuff

[spare cloud]

Ask in #looking-for-session instead or ask for a !guide

[wary tusk]

Star Citizen's Player Guide System

Click the link above to request a player who can guide you through any gameplay aspect, including the Basics. Can also be used to find a buddy to play with!

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[wraith ice]

i know hull c is buggy but how is the profit looking?

[brittle kraken]

Same as 3.22

Probably 500k an hour or so

[austere basin]

Is it possible to land a ship on a Hull C?

[frail linden]

where to find Audio Visual Equipment?

[vestal ravine]

I think nowhere. It's a leftover item from the first Xeno Threat event. Demand is like zero.

[brittle kraken]

I mean you could park it on top but I dont see why you would want to do that lol, might slide off too.

[austere basin]

my Idea was to have a vulture docked on one cargo panel and go on salvage trips (basically to have more cargo space without needing a wingman to pilot another cargoship

[brittle kraken]

Yeah theres no way of locking it on lol. Only ship anywhere close to release that can carry one is the idris

[tropic swallow]

Can I sell the Kopion horns anywhere?

[brittle kraken]

I don't believe so

[brittle kraken]

Also the panel is only 15mx20m and the vulture is 34mx16m

[austere basin]

ah damn

okay, thanks for that size info!

[brittle kraken]

And also the hull c can't land at where you sell rmc lol

[somber bay]

890

[somber bay]

890 will do this

[brittle kraken]

Oh yeah forgot about that one lol

Is the cargo grid in the hangar or the ground vehicle area?

[somber bay]

In the 890?

Both

[brittle kraken]

Oh ok

[somber bay]

Most of it is in the elevator in the back

[spare cloud]

No cargo grid in the hangar

[spare cloud]

Only the garage, as well as inside 890J walls, so you can't access this one

So 288 SCUs instead of 388 announced

See pinned messages

But well, with salvage you can just toss your cargo anywhere off grid

That's the real way

890J 2000 SCUs cargo capacity

[somber bay]

Isn’t there by the hallways?

I swear I have found cargo there on ERT 890s

Yeah the pinned grid looks like it shows it

[velvet shoal]

Did CIG fix the duping? I didn't see a mountain of C2s piled up outside the spaceport.

[spare cloud]

Got a fresh server lost likely

[astral bloom]

i have refinery order completed and it 2556 scu im assuming there are no ships that can carry that much at the moment 😅

[spare cloud]

2556 cSCU*

[astral bloom]

yes

[spare cloud]

Not SCU

100 cSCU = 1 SCU

Just like 100cm = 1 m

So you only have 25 SCUs, not 2556

There's the Hull C that can haul 4608 SCUs, but it can't sell in TDDs, where you sell refined ores

And you don't have that much cargo anyway

[astral bloom]

Lmao forgot the c

[visual berry]

is the cargo grid not working after selling a known issue?

[stiff vine]

They really need to do away with μSCU and round up or something. Jumps a helluva lotta steps to cSCU

[restive pendant]

it is because there is a "ghost" cargo in the hold, hence the dupe being so easily discovered

[idle fjord]

Nice, had a 1.2M cargo and the game (new babbage) decide to destroy my ship instead of storing it.

[restive pendant]

lol now even grimhex is maxxed out on RMC, so dumb

[marsh briar]

Wait so items that the hull c can sell are items basically from space station to space station?

[stiff vine]

Yep. Can't land or snub to surface to sell.

Well you sorta can if you have someone piloting a shuttle that can take you down, but I'm not sure how many ground shops can accommodate

[lavish condor]

Why does the reclaimer cost more if the c2 makes more money

[stiff vine]

Developer time and resources spent from concept to flyable as wells as gameloop considerations

[visual night]

More multi-role opportunities, less investment cost/risk compared to making money on trading (besides up front cost). That's my guess at least

Trading will also not always make this much. Price is pretty static at each location, it's not a fully functional economy yet

[muted sparrow]

reclaimer prints money

c2 moves money

[tough spindle]

The C is awesome own the D and E with LTI. You gotta love Space Truckin' 🚚

[lavish condor]

@tough spindle i think i was just in game with you

[tough spindle]

Yep tweaking controls. Love starting over, not

[frosty sentinel]

What are the most popular spots rn to buy RMC

[muted sparrow]

pickers field

rappen

dunboro??? dunno if its bugged

and thaz about it

i think

[sly mirage]

dunboro still bugged

Maker's Point, but it wasn't working for me when I tried it yesterday

[restive pendant]

duper spotted

[frosty sentinel]

Not really.

I don’t like doing that stuff tbh

Rather not contribute to the problem

[restive pendant]

i mean if you are buying RMC right now good luck selling it without spending forever

[copper ibex]

any pirates out there that would 696 SCU of Scrap from me?

[near swallow]

To sell cargo without duping, just don't store the ship. And that also avoids the bug where storing a ship can cause it to be destroyed instead.

[night light]

Earlier today, my brother and I got hijacked and lost a cargohold of RMC. How does one go about profiting from this acticity? How did they sell the cargo?

[spare cloud]

Tractor your cargo into their ship, then go sell it in places that buy stolen cargo, so GrimHEX for RMC

[night light]

I wasn't able to tractor it out of their cargohold... do i have to destroy the ship first?

[spare cloud]

They buy at a discount compared to lawful places, but that's worth it when you don't have to buy the cargo

You should be able to tractor out of any ship.
If it doesn't work, getting in pilot seat can help, can even press Unlock ship from it

But that shouldn't be necessary

[night light]

Unlock ship?

[spare cloud]

Yes

Button that makes the ship accessible to anyone, in party or not

[night light]

Is that a buton from the pilot seat?

[spare cloud]

Yes

[spare cloud]

^

[night light]

Right... i just never seen the button beofre

[stark sun]

cant put items into 8 scu container

[open surge]

I had to unlock ports to steal from the C2 I hijacked. I think when the ship isn't in soft death, the cargo is locked to the grid?

Tested with a Hull A, as well, and non party member couldn't tractor the cargo

[spare cloud]

Weird, thanks for telling me

[odd rampart]

i buy cargo at cargo service right?

and if yes what exacly i buy for first time?

[spare cloud]

Usually, most people buy cargo is bought in outposts

[nimble ledge]

So I got recomended to trade with recycled materials, but lorvile has "no demand" on them, what does that mean

[odd rampart]

what is outpost?

[spare cloud]

That they're high in stock

Wait for stock to refresh, sell again

[nimble ledge]

How long is that?

[spare cloud]

Any planetary location. Mining outposts, research centers, drug labs whatever

!trading

[wary tusk]

Trading

Click [here](#🍼┃learn-to-play message) to learn the basics of Trading in Star Citizen.

The bigger the ship, the more you can haul!

[spare cloud]

Terminals refresh every five minutes.
A full restock takes multiple refresh depending on location and commodity

[odd rampart]

ah

[tropic swallow]

How'd you get an LTI E?

[elder parcel]

Can you sell RMC rn or nah, been trying for the last 2 days and its not in demand

[spare cloud]

No demand just means it's high on stock, not that it doesn't buy

Sucks but you have to wait and refresh to sell

[proud pumice]

Hundreds of people duping cough I mean hauling cargo at the same time with 696 boxes at a time and only 4k demand

[elder parcel]

This is so stupid

[proud pumice]

Roughly 5 people with c2 could top off that 4k demand in one go

[brittle kraken]

It spawned in like this 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯

[sand thistle]

QUESTION for the cargo runners/traders:
how much have you or your org paid for escort services?

I read you and thanks for your input

[visual night]

Depends on what you're running and how many escorts. I'm not in an org but have flown escort for friends trading.

10-25% of gross sold (maybe a little higher for multiple escort ships) was reasonable to me. The trader is taking on more risk and personal loss so I don't expect 50/50. When we're looting NPC bounties, it's usually an even split across everyone

[odd rampart]

Looking wher to buy went here but can't find

[vestal ravine]

I think Makers Point has RMC...

[odd rampart]

Ah you call trading points RMC

[spare cloud]

Trading points are mining outposts, settlements, stations, cities...
RMC is a commodity

Recycled Material Composite

[odd rampart]

Hm but what's best way to find them?

I can't just ask each time

[spare cloud]

Use !tradetools or uexcorp.space to create routes. It'll tell you where to buy and sell for best profits, depending on settings you selected

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[coarse ember]

hows rmc been? any pirating at the few working commodity terminals that have it yet?

[spare cloud]

Pirates not really the issue with RMC

[coarse ember]

they do keep a place in the back of my head when i go to land or take off trading lol

[visual night]

Pirates/griefers are pretty common in my experience, since traders are funneled to two spots. Sitting around a terminal waiting for demand can be a bigger pain though, and is almost guaranteed right now

[spare cloud]

The buying points being always high on stocks because of dupers is a much bigger issue than pirates atm

[visual night]

Well, one wastes time. One wastes 8 mil for a full C2. Depends on what you value more

I have always been able to sell, but I was willing to sit at a terminal for 2.5 hours selling in 20-80 increments at Orison. If you aren't that persistent, probably better not to trade RMC

Even Beryl was at no demand at Orison, no commodity is safe

[north oyster]

the dupe bug rules

[coarse ember]

nb probably got filled with beryl too given its a quick and safe route for most of it last i heard

[north oyster]

dupers have effectively destroyed cargo trading this patch

[coarse ember]

idek what the duping thing is lmao, all i know for cargo is grids are fucked up rn

[north oyster]

concur, trade and cargo is fubar. Heck, you can't even mine because trying to sell refined goods is an issue

one way to look at it, I'm glad they're exploiting it so hard because it makes the decisions for patch a little easier to implement

[chrome drift]

yea showing it off means it will get fixed

[north oyster]

with the new cargo implementation, I'm thinking they will once again do the aUEC and probably inventory wipe

[chrome drift]

would be a big FU to the dupers

[north oyster]

Well it's part of the development gig, so taking advantage of exploits comes with the territory. I just would like cargo in general to work properly

[brittle kraken]

I've had the docking port on my Hull C work twice in a row now. Is this some sort of miracle?

[north oyster]

dang it Dan, you just had to go there ... jinx

[brittle kraken]

Idc Im just happy, maybe its because Im at Hur-L2 and not anywhere people usualy spawn a Hull C?

[lost bluff]

idk about a wipe but itll prob get fixed anyways for the hangar cargo update

[north oyster]

3.23.2 is going to change everything in the game related to inventory and cargo ... 100%. Yeah, I could see a clean up happening when it is rolled out

And this Fall will be the "clean the clock" total wipe reset promised

[slow wharf]

any ideas why my ship inventory wouldn't appear at a scrap yard? do i have to land in a particular area to sell cargo?

samson atm

[deep parcel]

It’s a big FU to everyone. Even more to those of us struggling to make money without duping

[slow wharf]

is there a place that isn't bugged? been to brio / samsons / reclamations and the ship isn't showing up in the inventory

[spare cloud]

Sounds like the ship itself is bugged

[slow wharf]

trying to log out on ship - i'll check if that helps or not - was able to buy without issue

lol - it put me into the center of stanton rip

[slow wharf]

ah - looks like im trespassing on my own ship - likely why i cant sell?

[vestal ravine]

Your grid may be affected by the cargo dupe glitch. Just an idea for you to look into.

Another thing you have to be reasonably close to the selling terminal to have the ship show up.

[visual night]

I've seen an issue where landing at outposts doesn't register me as being at that location. Use r_displayinfo 1 in the console and check your current location after landing.

I've only fixed it by bed logging and hopping servers until I find one that correctly recognizes I'm at the outpost.

Trespassing on your own ship is a new one to me. Definitely seems like it would stop you from selling/bed logging

[slow wharf]

Thanks - I tried the R-displayinfo and was in the zone but still didn't register. Bed logged then it ported me to the middle of stanton with me tresspassing - granted it was a rental ship if that makes a difference. still had my cargo but wasn't able to land/dock anywhere so ended up dying of hydration

[quartz ledge]

Now I know why people dupe cargo, with amount of server issues it's impossible to earn cash in legit way, lost quite a chunk of time and cash trying legit loops today...

[slow wharf]

Yeah lost a 150k so unmotivated\ now lol

[near swallow]

It's not impossible, people are just greedy.

[stiff vine]

And impatient thanks to welfare sims like Forknife and CoD. SC doesn't need to ever be an instant gratification game

[quartz ledge]

constantly losing cash due to game issues not personal mistakes tells me otherwise

[near swallow]

I've made over a million since 3.23.0 and I haven't been playing all that much.

It all depends on what you are doing and how.

[olive gull]

i lost everything a few days ago, likewise mostly due Server issuses, i got 257 credits left 😭

but i slowly recovering, about 400k by now

thanks to Cargo Bounty Hunting and friends from my Org

[frosty sentinel]

We have been spoiled with the ability to earn 10 million an hour

Now that they are working on removing that amount and speed at which we can earn as one person, people are needing to get use to it again.

[fossil pawn]

i was riding the elevator in my ship and lost it. its unkown now, how often does waiting for recovery work? should i just suck it up?

[frosty sentinel]

Recovery I believe is gone due to replication layer and stuff.

Not sure tho

[near swallow]

If you mean waiting for the game to move a ship into storage, I think you have to be logged out and it may take hours, if it will happen at all. I don't know how all it works, but it did work on 3.22.

[fossil pawn]

alright, ill give it one night.

[near swallow]

Not sure how riding an elevator would cause you to lose a ship though

[fossil pawn]

the elevator bugged out of the ship while quantum jumping...

[near swallow]

Ah. I never get out of the seat while in quantum.

[brittle kraken]

And definitely dont use elevators in quantum lol

[near swallow]

If I need to get up for some reason, I will drop out of quantum first.

[faint stratus]

Is the c1 spirit performing well since 3.23? Was thinking of upgrading to one soon.

[frosty sentinel]

Pickers and Rappel are working as buy spots right?

[spare cloud]

Sell spots too, for some stuff

Rappel buys scrap for example

[frosty sentinel]

Gotcha

[open surge]

Squishy

I'd rather fly my cutty but the C1 looks so much nicer

[faint stratus]

I thought it was supposed to have more hull health than a cutty, did they adjust it?

maybe I am misremembering

[open surge]

It does have more hull hp, yeah

Cutty has 1 more s2 shield, so you rarely take hull hp while doing stuff

It's still decent, though

I like it a lot

[faint stratus]

I am slowly trying to gather a ccu chain from my arrow to a c1 spirit so just making sure I am not making some terrible mistake, I remember hearing people say they changed it in 3.23 😂

[open surge]

Unless I am misremembering about the cutty shield gens

As a daily driver, it's really nice. I wouldn't go hunting bounties in it, but it's got a lot of nice qol features

Beds are right behind pilot seat. Can load cargo/vehicles with the tracto beam. Can use the airlock in the bay as a security measure if you don't trust someone you're picking up.

[faint stratus]

I think I was going to use it more as a hauler to build up some cash at the start of patches or for bunker runs/other fps loops

[open surge]

Pretty fast in nav

[open surge]

Yeah then it'll be perfect for what you want

Like every other crusader ship, it handles better than it should for its size

[faint stratus]

awesome 🙂

[open surge]

Hopefully they buff the hp on turrets across the board, though, because it's real easy to lose power to half your firepower lol

[faint stratus]

is it capable of escaping pirates or will I most likely get thrashed?

also how is the quantum fuel tank?

[open surge]

Has the same qt fuel as a connie

So it gets around alright.

For escaping pirates? Your hull hp gives you enough space to get qt'd out. Would be trouble if you're interdicted.

Definitely have to respect when it says you have a torque imbalance and repair asap, just like the cutty

As engineering stuff gets implemented, it'll be nice for that too

Cause all your components are easy to access

[faint stratus]

yeah I was reading about that recently

[runic mango]

If you’re trying to sell and a place won’t take it because no demand, how long does that take to reset?

[open surge]

I hop between my C1 and my Corsair depending on what I'm looking to do, but both are just fantastic daily drivers and are real versatile

[faint stratus]

I have a corsair in game right now and it is awesome!

[frosty sentinel]

Where do you sell stolen RMC?

[spare cloud]

Grim HEX

[frosty sentinel]

its not working

[spare cloud]

How so ?

#📁┃help-archive message

Like this?

[tropic swallow]

This RMC bug is a pain in my ass

Just wanna sell my hard earned salvage

Where should I sell my RMC instead?

I'll try GH

[limpid sluice]

you have to hop around and get lucky really

[tropic swallow]

So.. salvage is back to jjust.. RMC all the way then

[limpid sluice]

i havent really seen anyone doing cmats but ive been doing my own thing, avoiding salvage

and salvage related things like rmc

[tropic swallow]

CMAT seems unaffected by the dupe everything bug

So.. salvaging just by eating the ship would still make tonnes of profit

[near swallow]

Most of the people duping are probably RMC commodity traders. That and CM's nerfed sell price means there's not much incentive for salvagers to get lots of CM.

[tropic swallow]

Well.. nerfed CM still makes more than not being able to sell RMC x)

[near swallow]

You can sell RMC, just need a little patience. I sold some the other day.

Then I want back to my Vulture, made more boxes, and went back and sold them.

Didn't have to wait the second time, even though it took time to get to my ship and back.

[fallen crater]

been running gold and bought 10 scu with all my money. stored it in my tali and it said 19scu. walking into the ship i made sure it was 10 scu and it was. now at TDD in NB i seen only 2scu of gold. the other 8 scu is not on the ship nor was it on the screen for the TDD. TDD had 12 scu of Gold in demand after selling the 2. is anyone else having this issue or what can i do to stop this bug

[vestal ravine]

I can cover your losses if you want to DM me...

[fallen crater]

i appreciate the offer but ill be alright just gotta start the grind again

[vestal ravine]

Ok take care!

I sold 25 scu of rcm at nbis after a wait of 12 minutes from a no demand first sale attempt.

[frosty sentinel]

hey is there a way to mark something as stolen or something u took off someones ship not marked as stolen

[restive pendant]

has duping been ended? i can sell my salvage without horrid waits

[stark sun]

10 minutes at area18 to sell 5 scu sp not fixed yet

[uneven phoenix]

Ive been pretty lucky, sold 39 scu of RMC tonight with zero wait

Though I do sell 26 scu and make a trip back to the vulture to print the other 13 scu and sell again

[leaden reef]

did they hotfix it

[stark sun]

hotfix what?

[spare cloud]

Duping

No

[tacit delta]

So they did all that economy adjustment only to have an even worse problem?

[open surge]

It'd at least be slightly less egregious if player gathered materials weren't able to be bought for cargo runs (Quant, rmc, etc.) And instead the myriad of other hauler options were what was available

Then you wouldn't have people trying to sell salvage losing their minds

[dreamy scaffold]

can we buy and sell AV Equipment? if so where?

[brittle kraken]

It can only be sold: https://uexcorp.space/commodities/info/name/audio-visual-equipment/tab/overview/

[tropic swallow]

🤫 It's a secret

Eggsactly

[leaden reef]

What

[vestal ravine]

I sold 25 scu RMC at NBIS after the first sale was "No Demand"

[prisma sedge]

is it possible to move cargo out of carrack?

[brittle kraken]

You might be able to move 1 or 2 scu containers through the hallway but nothing bigger as the cargo doors still dont open after however many years

[prisma sedge]

what if lets say I now have 500SCU of stolen RMC in someones Carrack... ig its stuck in it forever?

[brittle kraken]

Are you asking how to pirate in the cargo and trading chat?

[prisma sedge]

where is a pirates chat?

[brittle kraken]

There isn't one...

[prisma sedge]

then no, im asking if it is possible to get cargo out of the ship, no matter what I am going to do about it

[brittle kraken]

I already answered the question lil bro, although you being a pirate I understand that reading might be a bit difficult for you

I'd be careful who you call a nerd when you have that pfp

[spare cloud]

Let's not forget rule 1

[spare cloud]

I do believe that's the most appropriate chat of the server to ask how to move cargo

They're actually pirating and trying to steal cargo, I would salute anyone doing this over murder hoboing and griefing

[spare cloud]

Your best chance if to detach every box from the ship's cargo grid, then to destroy it

[prisma sedge]

All the boxes on the grid are rather big ones, these are not 1/2 SCU, it's so tight there you cant even detach it or I am missing something

[spare cloud]

Yeah, there isn't much room and you won't be able to detach it all

But by playing around with the tractor beam and boxes you should be able to detach a big part of the boxes

Detaching a box also detaches all other boxes stacked on top of it

So focus on detaching all bottom boxes

[prisma sedge]

This will probably result in several hours of work or another 30k error, I believe it's just better to get someone's C2, at least that one is easier to get cargo out

[wide talon]

whats the best setup for the c2 to have faster quantum drives?

[spare cloud]

TS-2

QD is the only thing you can change to travel faster

[wide talon]

perfect, thank you

[gaunt basalt]

I’m in cru l1 with refined ore, where should I sell em? Is there a tool to find places to sell? Don’t wanna go down to orison

[brittle kraken]

Best place is any city

[gaunt basalt]

The thing is I only have cutlass black to move em and I don’t wanna make 6 trips down to orison

Which is the closest city

And I heard people are griefing in area 18 coz dupers

[visual night]

I have a C2, if you want to meet and transfer to my cargo I'll take a measly 10% fee!

Or, you might be able to rent a C2 right now for free? Don't know which ships are available

[gaunt basalt]

yea i can

thx anyway

[visual night]

take one trip down to orison, rent the C2 there, go back for the rest. it's kind of a pain but you already did the hard part!

[vital glen]

bro why do people camp random outposts and kill you

[sly mirage]

For fun and sometimes free cargo

[brittle kraken]

How do I pull up the does it fit info?

!fit

[wary tusk]

Can it fit?

Credit to RubenSaurus

[spare cloud]

Yup, do so in #🤖┃bot_commands tho

[vital glen]

why wont the commodity terminal come up with my ship?

[karmic gorge]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[spare cloud]

Some places like dunboro are bugged. If it happens everywhere, abandon/destroy ship, claim it and change server region.

[vital glen]

so dont store the ship then bring it back out?

[spare cloud]

Yeah that'll likely not help

[spark crest]

what is an interesting medium-large freight ship that isn't too expensive but also pretty unique and funny looking?

[visual night]

Caterpillar?

[spark crest]

maybe a lil smaller

[stark sun]

freelancer misc

[spark crest]

is freelancer able to be used solo?

[open surge]

It works phenomenally as a solo ship. Kind of what it's designed around. It's a lateral option to the Cutlass

Cutty, Spirit, Freelancer series can be treated as options in the same vein.

[sinful agate]

i dont see my ship when i want to select ship to sell cargo

[spare cloud]

Yeah, freelancer MAX totally usable solo and great

Can use the Constellation Taurus too, it's an excellent ship, not only for cargo

[spark crest]

also in any of these a roc fits right

[zinc shore]

Can you buy containers from major planets (A18, NB, etc)?

[strange nest]

Freelancer is the ultimate solo-space trucker rig

At least that's the vibe I got from the Freelancer commercial

[near swallow]

Freelancer MAX is the one I would recommend out of the series. Otherwise, might as well get a C1.

[brittle kraken]

Only from stations with a cargo area

[near swallow]

There are a few other places you can buy some containers, however buyable containers are buggy right now.

[gaunt basalt]

can someone give me an estimate of AUEC per hour of ROC mining? trying to decide between that and prospector mining

[spark crest]

i've been trying today and as a noob i got around 80k an hour

[near swallow]

Don't have any actual numbers, but Prospector I think would do more, but also involves more steps and requires a cargo ship.

[gaunt basalt]

yea ill just do like 10 runs with a rental and bring everything to TDD with a connie

my estimate is 200k/h

30min per mining run and about 100k per run after refining

[frosty sentinel]

Hey yall, is there a way to get the stolen marker off cargo?

[near swallow]

Ore mining can also be more complicated though because your profit margin can vary depending on how you do things, what you choose to mine, and what you choose to refine. With my Mole, I'll look for the higher tier ores (Quant being a bonus) but I'll grab everything from those rocks that's not inert and will refine everything I can.

[near swallow]

No

[frosty sentinel]

👍

[gaunt basalt]

cant mine quant with a rented prospector sadly

[near swallow]

Depends on the rock

Problem is rented prospector has a basic laser with no modules.

But that is the same as what you'd start with if you bought a prospector.

[spark crest]

dioes cargo sell good?

like if i hire a freelancer for a day, will i get the worth out of it?

also cargo is basically just going to the admin office thing, loading it with some supplies and then go to somewhere else where they buy it for profit right

[visual night]

Yep. Best profit is buying at outposts, sometimes no armistice, selling at planets or stations. Depends on what you trade, there are risks and upfront cost

You should be able to rent something for free right now that can hold cargo, since it's Invictus

[keen portal]

i got a cargo mission, that over there is my pickup point, but its private property. what do i do? the text on the top doesnt change, so far

got the solition

[olive gull]

go for it! worsh case scenario: 1 or 2 turrets shooting at you, shoot em back

[stiff vine]

Dang, I didn't know they stuck boxes in crim bunkers

[sage warren]

I just bought my first kinda expensive ship the caterpillar!

[keen portal]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[civic epoch]

Nice! My favorite flyable ship. Enjoy the maze of hallways.

[sage warren]

forreal! but it looks really cool!!

[civic epoch]

For those unexpected encounters. 4 Furys and a Dragonfly loaded for some fun.

[sage warren]

i wish the pirate design was availible for paint

[civic epoch]

Yeah. Indeed.

[keen portal]

how much did it cost?

it looks nice

[sage warren]

12.4 mil

or about 2 weeks of straight salvaging

[keen portal]

i may need to safe up some more then

im missing,... about 12.4 mil

[shut citrus]

Does anyone know how much cargo you can store off-grid? I'm loading my reclaimer WAY over capacity and don't want to lose anything

[spark crest]

Renting for free? How and what

[vestal ravine]

Generally 7 big ships. Make a 1 scu crate first and place it by the hopper. When it despawns you reached the limit. On board gear may count against the total scu.

https://youtu.be/RwgARCa-ONw?si=Ak92AEi1UePV-e1x

[south plaza]

Do on grid boxes count against this limit?

[vestal ravine]

On grid or off crates are calculated as one class type it's only at the selling terminal they are separated. It's gear like med pens that can affect the total but I do not fully understand that. Maybe bring 700 med pens and see what happens.

[south plaza]

So we shouldn't be printing smaller crates trying to fill the grid, becuase that just limits the total printable SCU? Or is it an SCU limit?

[vestal ravine]

That's another aspect over my head really. Printing 7-8 big ships as 1 scu would be a crazy ordeal. In either case just use the control crate so you have some idea of when the despawn begins.

[south plaza]

Most of the grid can be 16s and 8s

[vestal ravine]

Risbo sticks with the biggest crates as most crate monkey's do. he reserves the balcony to walk around I would use it to stack crates plus the drop down area can hold 4 32's. I would not transfer anything to the cargo hold. (Another friend I know can double stack some of the ones on the balcony area)

[south plaza]

We have double stacked some of the balcony

[vestal ravine]

I'm solo so not gonna get past 2-3 Hercs...

The Medivac can survive being on the lift but cannot fit in the rooms barring removal of the wheels.

[shut citrus]

The current box hell we have

[small hornet]

Is there a bug that prevents yhou from using elevators at stations if you land a Reclaimer on a whole pad?

[vestal ravine]

Cru l5 has broken elevator s

[small hornet]

When you say broken, do you mean just not coming to get you?

[leaden reef]

@lyric plover it's fine. You'll need much more until stuff starts despawning

[fathom mortar]

Coming back to the game after a extended break and thought I'd get back into haulling. All the new information I see is all about duplicating cargo... what is something good to start hauling around that does not use duplication bugs in the games systems?

[sage warren]

I’ve been gunned down in my ship a few times just at like pickers field, is there a way I can take a dif ship to pickers and put the cargo in an off site cargo ship

[sage warren]

Pretty much anything other than rmc

[spark crest]

a roc fits in freelancer right

[fathom mortar]

Is that the material that people are cheesing with the duplication stuff? I'll try to stay away from that and just transport anything else.

[spare cloud]

It is

Beryl is great, or Laranite, heard it was back on the game

[small hornet]

I cant seem to sell Beryl...

[spare cloud]

Heard it could be high stock at Orison so that there was a bit of waiting time

But it used to be close to infinite stocks at Lorville, so that you'd never wait one second

[fathom mortar]

Maybe I can make a list of buy spots that are "normally" stocked, and just take what is best when I arrive, instead of zooming around the entire game trying to find where one specific material is.

[fair cloak]

Does anyone know if the following question has been asked either here or on Spectrum? and also what the answer may be...

Will the new Cargo Missions come from the current Distribution Mission Rep?

[small hornet]

What is the SCU capacity of the Hull A?

[visual night]

https://support.robertsspaceindustries.com/hc/en-us/articles/360047578894-Welcome-to-Invictus-Launch-Week

The availability rotates every few days. Go to the Convention Center at Area18, get a 2 day rental for whatever you want. It's about to rotate to Drake ships.

[visual night]

64 SCU

[small hornet]

Damn. Really?

I thought it would be at least 100.

What are the others? If you dont know offhand I can go find it on the site, just flying currently.

[visual night]

#industrial-professions message

[leaden reef]

You can fit way more stuff in the reclaimer until it starts despawning

[vital glen]

Ok this is getting ridiculous now should we set up a task force that just nukes dupers trying to farm mats

[dark hornet]

best trade root?

[small hornet]

Oh, I've been waiting to startup a mini-org. Comprised of SRVs, Vultures, and Reclaimer crews.

A patch 2.32.1 Org called The Crab Consortium.

We just fuckin bottom feed the lowest lifeforms.

Theres a reddit group that wants to do this as well.

Any input would be valuable to the traders who aren't duping.

Its about sending a message.

🤡

[vital glen]

True bro

We must become the patch

Just if your doing it make sure to scan ships first if they have rcm smoke em if not leave them

I got killed the other day by someone doing it but I had medical supplies on my ship and got fucked

[small hornet]

Oh. I was hoping to combine forces.

[vital glen]

I’m sure you could easily rally people to the cause it’s a blight on the game currently

Arc corp is just filled with abondoned c2 Hercules from supers

I play solo so I don’t know anybody

[small hornet]

Well...we were alone before we started talking...

Now we are 2.

[small hornet]

Hear me out. We get SRV's to fly down and scan. A few Vultures and a Reclaimer hungry at the edge of space. And we get a crew or two to run Cutlass Blue's for defense...

I just wish we could coordinate the people. Too much scatter.

[warm totem]

create a VC for this purpose, you can remove people and lock it down once you get your crew together - whether its a mining expedition, cargo, pirate whatever but leaving it open and naming it right you'll get a crew together in no time!

[small hornet]

Okay...lets see what happens.

How do I make a VC?

Hmm...cant name it...

[cerulean lichen]

Think the mule will ever be useful? 1 scu boxes seems kinda useless for a dedicated vehicle.

[small hornet]

Lol. That poor little truck.

[cerulean lichen]

I know! I love it but there is no real use to it. I’d buy it in a heart beat if it had a tractor beam. It be so nice to use it to load cargo once cargo elevators are live.

[placid zinc]

why i get shot down whenever i try to trade rcm

?

like, at least let me land if you wanna steal cargo ,but in every server there are like 15 20 playuers guarding these locations and blasting you in oblivion

[olive gull]

It's simple: to eliminate competition, the stock is not unlimited, and to make it worse, it is shared between all servers!
so the more people arrive, the less stock there will be.
They are not pirates, they don't want your cargo, they want you out of the equation.

[cerulean lichen]

Especially since there is that issue causing so much lag that people are basically shooting anyone trying to bring rmc to sell. Even if you got it from legitimate methods.

[placid zinc]

Wait
People can spawn rmc?

I Heard that you can scarpe It from your own ships but i didnt knew It was "illegal" to do

[cerulean lichen]

There is a duplication glitch going on. So people are taking C2 full of it to A18 and leaving C2 scattered everywhere. So some people have taken it upon themselves to stop it by destroying anyone bringing RMC to area 18.
So I’d either find a new place to sell or wait until the exploit is fixed and those then those people defending area 18 should disappear

[placid zinc]

Hm
Ill Just scarpe my own ships for a while...

[spark crest]

what is the use of the ground freight vehicles like the mule

also another question, i'm trying to buy gold on a ground base on a planet but don't know where the buying terminal is

[next lily]

If it's a mining facility, it's in the "Storage" building, usually indicated by a tower with red lights

[spark crest]

thx so much

[wide talon]

Is there a trick to sell even though theres no demand? I just wanna empty out my reclaimer 😩

[covert cobalt]

Is there a amount I should spend on cargo that makes it worth even doing some runs

[olive gull]

no trick, wait about 15 mins for the stock reset, or go somewhere else

[wide talon]

🥲

[spare cloud]

First not spend what you can't afford to lose. No more than 30% of your capital is a safe limit.
Then, if you have less than 120 SCUs of space, drugs are great.
If you have more space, lawful cargo's great.
Use !tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[covert cobalt]

Oooh thanks

[sage warren]

im about to yolo a full cat

im terrified

[elder summit]

lol what did you buy

[meager gorge]

anyone know what location buys kopion horns and stone bug shells?

[olive gull]

its a missing gameplay

[meager gorge]

oh :/ i wanted to sell them too

[olive gull]

heard that you can make powder with those horns and if you drink it, it makes your little fella 😋 to stay up and hard for a while

which is the sole reason for their hunt missions, at least till they go extinct..

[spare cloud]

[light relic]

anyone else having a bug where theres no grid on reclaimer cargo, or is it somthing i have done and not a bug?

[olive gull]

bug, blow it up and re-reclaim the reclaimer

[spare cloud]

Depends what part of the Reclaimer you're talking about

Some of its cargo areas have no grid

[light relic]

salvage deck

[olive gull]

the Vulture also has it, sometimes

[light relic]

it was snapping here yesterday

[spare cloud]

Yeah bug

[light relic]

sweet ill go sell and then pop it 😄

[spare cloud]

^ blow it up/abandon it

[light relic]

thanks 😄

if i get my ship impounded do i loose the cargo?

[olive gull]

there are A LOT of reasons to lose your cargo, that may be one of them

[spare cloud]

Shouldn't. But with current bugs, chances of losing it are jight

[light relic]

thanks 😄 i ended up going to orioson anyways someone was blocking grim hex bay so couldnt get landing perm

[spare cloud]

Don't have to land in the hangar to sell, but it's better to keep your ship safe, especially at GH

[light relic]

you can land a reclaimer outside at grim?

[spare cloud]

Yesn't

Doesn't really have the space for it but you actually don't even need to land it

[light relic]

hmmm thanks

[spare cloud]

Can have it fly above the pads, you EVA inside GH and go sell

But anyone can ram your ship, tho they'll need some tough stuff to explode the reclaimer.
And someone can also drop a tracker on it

At least I would

[light relic]

good to know, im new to reclaimer if you couldnt tell

[spare cloud]

Everyone is

Reclaimer users don't think

They've entered auto mode

[limpid sluice]

I miss boarding reclaiming reclaimers

[spare cloud]

What's stopping you from doing it ?

[limpid sluice]

I haven't seen many, everyones just buying and duping rmc

[olive gull]

Think about all the time, effort and credits those people invested buying the Reclaimer to end duping RMC from a place to another...

should i cry or laugh ?

[sage warren]

Bro I lost 7 mil how does one missile blow up my caterpillar

[spare cloud]

That we call an Eclipse

Or Retaliator, there's a lot more with the gold pass it just had

[sage warren]

im shaking

sad

[olive gull]

and CIG greatly reduced the HP of most ships

Conspiracy theorists say: they want us dead

[sage warren]

ughhh that was like all my credssss

[olive gull]

dont ivest all ur shyt on a single trip

[limpid sluice]

^

[olive gull]

i learn that the hard way, so you have

[sage warren]

i scouted for like 10 minnn

[narrow kettle]

did they really counter the dupe bug (for now as a fast solution) by simply reducing the sell price of RMC? that's just fkn stupid. I normally made 2 mil without duping, now I make 3 mil loss for a regualr trade run. Cmon, that's just not "fair" for people not exploiting.

I was buying for 8 mil and selling for 10 mil, now I'm buying for 8 mil and sell for 5 mil. I feel violated 😭

[sage warren]

where u sellin?

[open surge]

Rmc shouldn't even be a commodity that you can buy imo. Should be a player driven item. Would at least mean the duping doesn't affect other game loops

[narrow kettle]

A18, as I was always doing (without destroying my ship or whatever is involved in the duping bug so everyone dumped their C2 on A18)

[sage warren]

its not like 14k for 1 anymore?

[narrow kettle]

I havent checked the price per SCU, all I can tell you is that I bought for 8 mil and sold for 5

[sage warren]

are u sure u sold all? sometimes u cant sell all

[narrow kettle]

well there is the posibility that the demand was lower than what I was selling, but since cargo vanishes after storing I cant really tell...

should bhe possible to go back to TDD and check? or is my cargo now fully gone?

[olive gull]

they said a 3.23.1a patch but idk if that's live already

[narrow kettle]

not that I know of

[olive gull]

12.8k per scu

[spark crest]

What is the use of ground freight vehicles?

[olive gull]

such as..?

[narrow kettle]

@sage warren yeah, 14 on area 18. I really couldnt sell all at once lol

[mild pumice]

I agree with removing RMC as something you can buy and sell, keep it exclusive to salvaging. There's plenty of other commodities they could have added to the derelict s

[spark crest]

The mule

[mild pumice]

Why is it they're dumping the C2s though?

[olive gull]

be aware that there are currently people actively shooting down cargo ships that aproaches A18 or any other RMC selling places

[mild pumice]

Can you even get into the station from outside?

[sage warren]

lmao scroll up a bit bro

[olive gull]

yes u can

[sage warren]

i lost 7m

from my full cat xD from one missle

[mild pumice]

Cool I didn't know you could land there and walk in

[spark crest]

The mule

[olive gull]

the Mule has no use, it can carry a 1 scu box but its very glitched and hard to load/unload the box, it had a lot of HP so it could sustain a lot of damage but that changed now

and, the reason to carry a 1 scu box is to do Bunkers and carry the loot from there into your ship avoiding the turrets

[spark crest]

And what other uses do other ground vehicles have? Like isn't the only usefu one the roc

[mild pumice]

The Mule is handy for moving the 1/8 boxes around distribution centers

[olive gull]

the Cyclone can also carry a 1 scu box and its more fast and reliable

[olive gull]

racing and personal transport

and now you can re-spawn on medical vehicles like the Nursa or the C8R

the Pulse is a little and very usefull bike, it fits everywhere

useful for animal hunting missions

[spark crest]

But can't you only spawn ground vehicles on planets? Why doul you need transport there

[spark crest]

THERE ARE ANIMALS???

[olive gull]

yes, a sort of alien dog and a dino-like bird, and more on the way, they said

missions for them are only at Microtec and Hurston

[cinder carbon]

is it worth to try and risk rmc trading right now? debating cost benefit/risk reward ration considering the glitch going around and the high likelyhood of pirates bonking me at the terminal

[olive gull]

not right now, unless you have a group that support and protect you

[cinder carbon]

unfortunately not, I do not have a lot of friends that play this game sadly

back to hephestanite runs then

[olive gull]

Larranite and Beryl trading is good and safe-ish (when the server glitches dont kill you)

[spark crest]

also what is the data class?

like the drake herald is "medium data" but what does that mean

[olive gull]

Data Courriers, like the MSR, its a game loop not inplemented yet

[open surge]

RMC trading becoming what drug trading was supposed to be for so long.

[sage warren]

i got a question, so i got destroyed in a catter over at pickers but i think all the cargo is still there, is there a good way i can grab it?

[stiff vine]

Pyro mt, sneak in if possible. Cargo will still be there but anythimg locked to grid during destruction has a chance to disappear.

[sage warren]

i feel inclined to take the caterpillar agian and use the tractor beams, but im terrified

[warm totem]

Get help! You need some air support, trust me the will either be more interesting or an easy clean up or BOTH

[sage warren]

Fair point

[tight steppe]

Is the c1 spirit bigger then freelancer mis?

[lone sage]

Yes, a little bit larger.

Size wise you're asking right?

[spare cloud]

A lot larger, spirit wings span is huge

[lone sage]

The mis carries slightly more cargo

Yeah it's like 9m longer wingspan wise.

From front to back

Like 20 or so wing to wing

Though fighting isn't ideal, the weapons are a bit better on the c1 as well.

[tight steppe]

Yeh

I got 2 heavy fighters, 2 medium fighter and 1 light and the freelancer mis so thinking of swapping it out with one that is abit bigger

So c1 ok, how about the taurus?

[near swallow]

C1, cargo wise, is equivilent to the basic Freelancer. MIS I assume would have less capacity.

Taurus has more capacity then the Freelancer MAX.

[burnt crane]

alright so

i need a new cargo hauler

not too big, just enough for my mining runs

it needs some good weapons and some armour and shieldss

i would like it to have about 200 SCU of cargo

currently im using my connie andromeda and it's just not cutting it anymore

[calm scroll]

is dunboro working on this patch ? my ship was on top of the scrap building and even with that the terminal didn't detected my ship :/

[burnt crane]

my mole be moling too hard

[near swallow]

As far as actual cargo ships, next step up from Taurus would be Caterpillar and C2.

[burnt crane]

hmm

[near swallow]

Technically the Starfarer can carry a bit over 200 SCU, but it's not a cargo ship exactly.

[calm scroll]

caterpillar is a little bug

[burnt crane]

yeah and it's a little expensive too kek

[near swallow]

It'll be rentable tomorrow

[calm scroll]

is cheaper that the C2

[near swallow]

But Taurus is the biggest cargo ship in it's size category, Cat is the smallest in it's size category. At least how I categorize them.

Only things in between are the Starfarer and 890J.

[calm scroll]

CAterpillar is the second biggest cargo spaces, C2 is the first one.

if we ignore Hull C

[burnt crane]

i mean if i need to chose, i will probably take the Taurus

star farer looks like shit lmao

C2 and caterpillar are not really what i need as a miner

they are too large for what im transporting

[near swallow]

Starfarer is a refueling ship by design. But the Gemini one can carry 261 SCU of cargo. Found that out when I took at look at a free rental the other day.

[burnt crane]

i got like 100 - 150 SCU cargo

[near swallow]

Taurus is 174 SCU

[burnt crane]

well that is perfect

[near swallow]

I did a short CCU chain to get an LTI one

[burnt crane]

i got 3 - 5 orders every day to deliver

busy bee needs a new ship to sell

[near swallow]

Taurus can be used for bounty hunting and stuff too, which is why I got it

[burnt crane]

taking 2 tours to sell the ore takes up too much time

[burnt crane]

yeah i saw that

i gain a lot more cargo and lose some missiles and the snub fighter i never used anyway

[near swallow]

For refined ore, I have been using my Freelancer MAX, or my C1 when I could.

[burnt crane]

are they as tanky as the Taurus?

[near swallow]

Taurus also replaces one weapon turret with tractor beam turret

[burnt crane]

i want a ship that can handle itself against pirates

also a reason i dont want the C2 or caterpillar

[near swallow]

Never taken my MAX into combat, so I don't know how good it is. C1, you want to escape not fight.

My refined ore trips are short enough that pirates aren't likely

It's my Mole that got attacked by NPC ships once, and destroyed by a friendly security ship (by accident) on another occasion.

[burnt crane]

i got interdicted twice so far, so i dont wanna take risks

since im using my connie i killed the pirates each time

both were players lol

[near swallow]

For me, I base my mining ships out of an L1, so it's a pretty short hop to the planet.

Never been interdicted by players. Been attacked in my C1 in 3.22 before, I managed to escape.

[burnt crane]

i got 2 refineries i visit

i mine at cellin but i deposite my bexa and gold at mic-l2

[near swallow]

And I've taken out NPC pirates with my Cat before, as well as an NPC Cutty Black that showed up when I was doing a commodity run.

[burnt crane]

that -6% on those materials compared to +9% is adding up a lot

so i some times pick up an order and pick up another at mic-l2 to sell at new babbage

i dont like landing on orison anyway

[near swallow]

I base my mining ships out of ARC-L1 and go down to Arccorp to sell. Since Arccorp and Hurston are not too far from each other, I can easily mine at both and even at Crusaders moons without too much travel time.

[burnt crane]

Cellin is just a really nice moon for the mole since the rocks are usually a good size and it got a 10% on quantanium

[near swallow]

I've found quant on back to back runs there before, it was nice. But raw quant always makes me nervous to ferry.

[burnt crane]

the trip to mic-l2 only takes me 3 minutes longer than to cru-l1 so meh

im also using a crossfield so i can jump from mic-l2 -> cellin -> mic-l2 on one fuel tank

[near swallow]

Originally wanted to base out of CRU-L1, but in 3.22 it had issues when you wanted to QT away.

[burnt crane]

honestly still has lel

[near swallow]

Think I went Erebos for my Mole, to minimize QT cooldown, where I'd be vulnerable to attack.

[burnt crane]

dont they all have the same cooldowns now? lol

[near swallow]

Not sure

[burnt crane]

only the fuel efficiency and speed changes

MM did a small bit of an oopsie there

there is no objective usefulness of using anything but military drives now

[near swallow]

Erkul says cooldown times still differ

[near swallow]

And come to think about it, my Taurus still has a long cooldown. Cooldown isn't on that list.

Spool Up Time is, but that's different.

And I went Hemera not Erebos.

[burnt crane]

heh

crossfield is 1 second faster than xl1

[near swallow]

XL-1 has 23 second cooldown, Hemera has 16 second, Crossfield has 22 second.

[burnt crane]

it's just that the crossfield is also about twice as fast lel

compared to hemera

[near swallow]

Speed in QT is less of a worry for me then time outside of QT.

PCs/NPCs can't attack me in QT unless they snare me.

[burnt crane]

for me it's the opposite when you wanna travel 62GM and got quantanium inside your bags lol

those 4 extra minutes are crucial some times

[near swallow]

I don't have to travel so far

[burnt crane]

yeah it's just me looking at the loss of cru-l1

i lost 10 SCU of bexa on that one refinery job

that aint it chief

on the same workload on a different station i only lose 4 SCU

and that is a huge difference

so those 3 extra minutes are worth it in my book

[near swallow]

In any event, anything is better then Huracan.

[burnt crane]

lmao

me and the boys wanted to test out the hammerhead

doing some xenothreat

"cool, lets rent one"

checks drive

a fucking kama

[near swallow]

38 second cooldown, and it's not even fast.

[burnt crane]

who the fuck put an industrial drive into a military ship

should have been a pontes, the bare minimum

every ship should get the lowest grade drive from it's normal designation

military ship? D-grade military drive

anyway, thanks for the help with my cargo ship

gonna just get a taurus it seems

i like flying a cargo ship that can also tell the pirate to fuck off or eat lead

[near swallow]

Size 5's should do that.

[tawny path]

Does the duping really affect the rmc? I'm just trying to figure out if I should invest in a reclaimer

[olive gull]

oh shyt, i found where to sell those copion horns!

HUR L2 FAithfull Station

[restive pendant]

It's still happening?! Jesus

[proud pumice]

Wait, are they actually buying, or is that just a placeholder

[neat light]

if a ship blows up full of loot near a space station. but im not in armistace, is there a way to grab the cargo boxes?

[olive gull]

seems they are, i did not have any atm to try tho

[proud pumice]

If they are actually buying I'm a little sick to my stomach. I just climbed the rep ranks a number of times by killing like 1000 of those bastards. I didn't collect a single horn

[quartz ledge]

What's is ship with biggest cargo I can rent? I want to move some guns from planet to the station but it seems my Andromeda is too small

[proud pumice]

Unless they've changed the rental ships, I think the Andromeda was the largest. Unless you can rent a Taurus these days

[olive gull]

no, no, you dont want 'Cargo' for that, you need a ship with big inner Inventory, its different

a Freelancer has 4,91scu on inventory and 66 scu of Cargo grid, also should be cheaper than a Connie

however...

be aware that not all guns and vehicle gear can be moved from the local inventory to your ship

[quartz ledge]

I want to move size 5s for my Connie, so I don't need to go planet side for loadout swap

[olive gull]

idk if its possible after 3.23 patch...

[proud pumice]

Might just have to take them off the Connie at the station and leave the slot empty. Fly down and re equip.

[fathom mortar]

What would be your first upgrades to a stock Caterpillar?

[sullen plaza]

hey never done cargo before. ive got 500k and no idea where to start

[rich skiff]

Go to sc trade tools, select trade route, pick ship and 500k. It will show you all of your best options

[tight steppe]

Should i go for mercury star runner or c1 spirit or a taurus? which is best for freight/transport?

[proud pumice]

Taurus is 168
Msr is 114

[tight steppe]

hmm, ok thx i presume the msr is newer so it feels better to fly aswell?

[steady lily]

Whats a good starter cargo ship? I want to start cargo hauling.

[proud pumice]

Well, the msr is a ship that a lot of people like, but seem to usually move on from fairly quick from what I've seen.
It has two? Small pilot guns from what I remember. And I don't think it's always on sale

Connie is a crowd favorite line, and there is a daily debate between which is better between Connie and Corsair. Taurus has 4 size 5 pilot guns, so a LOT of fire power. Flight is a bit bricky from what I hear (haven't flown one in a while but it's comparable to the Corsair I'm told) but it's a STRONG little ship

[proud pumice]

What size/price range are you looking to start around

[tight steppe]

aight, so fck the msr then, tauros or c1 then? stuck between those 2 i melted the freelaner mis felt it was abit tiny

[proud pumice]

I forgot to mention the c1 is 64 cargo. It's a nice little ship and I use it as a daily driver a lot. It's not as good a flyer in this patch and I think the shields are a lot weaker.

That said, I'm like 90% sure I'll be either melting my c1 or ccu'ing it into my 600 chain once the Zeus is out and I can see how it flies. Especially with it having the 128ish cargo

[tight steppe]

fair, im going for the c1 and see how it is, if i dont like it just melt and try taurus i guess

is cargo trading decent money compared to mining? do you know

[steady lily]

Whats the good price point?

[proud pumice]

Sorry, was doing an admission.

A good price point is entirely subjective to you, how much You're willing to pay, if you want to do a short CCU chain to save money, a long chain to save more money, and a few other things like that. Something like the C1 is like 30ish I think? Without going and checking. The Zeus cl I got the concept wb so it was 135 I think?

[proud pumice]

Like I said, c1 was fun to fly, only a little less now.

C1 is also much cheaper, since the Taurus is 200.

@tight steppe depending on how quickly you want to make a decision you could absolutely do a quick chain to save a little money to the c1, fly it for a while. Then if you want, upgrade in a couple months to the Zeus when it comes out. And upgrade again to the Taurus is the Zeus doesn't fit you. That would give you time to save money by doing a chain, as well as borrow a Taurus from someone to see how it flies. Speaking of which on Monday you SHOULD be able to rent a Taurus for free for 48 hours during the finals.

[tight steppe]

oh, really. Nice yeh il prob try that route out

[proud pumice]

Like I said, just depends how quick you need/want to make a decision.

Heck, I have never used arena commander, but I believe you can test out the ships in there. If someone in here could offer some info on that, that would be helpful

[quartz ledge]

Tried that but for some reason cannons I take off in vehicle manager won't show up in space station inventory and I'm not to keen risking losing 300k worth of M7As lol

[proud pumice]

Ah. Yeah. That's valid. I haven't actually flown a Connie since I upgraded from Taurus to Corsair, so it's been a while. I'm not sure what else you could try in that case

Unless, do you have a friend with a C2 or something with a big cargo hold?

[quartz ledge]

In the end I went for it and it works, inventory just takes time to update or if you buy something new cause before buying a drink cannons didn't show up but after buying water they appeared all dandy

[proud pumice]

Awesome, nice to know you got it working

[hollow oyster]

can you upgrade reclaimer salvage turrets?

[spare cloud]

Yes

You can switch to Abrade scrapper modules, but given the size of the Reclaimer there's not a lot of reasons to do so

Trawlers are great

[hollow oyster]

ah i see

was thinking adrabe are more efficient but smaller radius right

how does the efficiency work

like how much it scraps off?

[spare cloud]

Efficiency is the amount of material collected for a given area

In SCU per square meter

Cinch are the most efficient.
But radius is so little and collection speed not fast enough, that for the same ship, you'll collect more RMC, but it will take you 5 times longer

[light relic]

is it a bug that i cant sell horns at and admin office?

[hollow oyster]

i see zorgh

cuz the trawlers are only .60 efficiency

[spare cloud]

Trawlers are the opposite, biggest radius, and worst efficiency, but the radius and collection speed are so big, that they can eat anything in no time

[hollow oyster]

ahhh

[spare cloud]

At the Reclaimer scale, Cinch are just pointless, and switching to Abrade doesn't necessarily make a lot of sense either

Look at pinned messages, the "sums up" stat that says what's best is WCF. Difference between Abrade and Trawler isn't huge

Oh, we're in #industrial-professions

This while discussion belongs to #rock-and-stone

Look at pinned messages there and switch to this channel if you have more questions

[hollow oyster]

didnt see that text chat haha

thanks ill make my way there

[spare cloud]

!showchannels

[hollow oyster]

appreciate the info

[light relic]

anyone else unable to sell the kopion horns?

[visual night]

Did you try HUR L2? Someone saw demand there (above)

[light relic]

im there now and still not to sell

tired a few places now, 😦

[flat quartz]

What’s a good commodity to trade with right now? I know rmc is good but it’s hard to sell it at the moment

[spare cloud]

Beryl or Laranite are great

Use !tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[flat quartz]

Ok thank you

[long pulsar]

is there anything as profitable as gold but thats more reliable?

cba waiting ages for it to refresh each time

[spare cloud]

Beryl is not as profitable for a full load, but it's far more accessible

[long pulsar]

well ive got 96 scu rn

[spare cloud]

Not a lot, I'd still do gold or drugs. You should only have to wait one refresh to have enough for your ship

At most that's 5 minutes if waiting time

[ivory gulch]

does anybody know How much profit i make with a full load of gold in a constellation?

[spare cloud]

Low effort lol

Use !tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[long pulsar]

just waited for refresh and it only had 7 scu

so confused

is rcm alright now or still bad bc of dupers?

[spare cloud]

Still full of dupers ofc

[long pulsar]

where on dunboro do i buy stuff

[olive gull]

there is a terminal inside one of the tents

[long pulsar]

so lietrally anywhere

[sand thistle]

one says scrap on the top with orange neon lights

[long pulsar]

well i found the bar

finally ofund it

AND MY DAMN SHIP IS TOO FAR AWAY

[spare cloud]

It's not I told you dunboro is bugged

[hearty marlin]

can anyone help me?

trying to do the ling family seeking new contractors mission

i have the cargo

i put it where it tells me to

and it doesnt work

[spare cloud]

Deliveries are often bugged with no workaround. So you can only move on to the next one

[scarlet rover]

do the small (1/8 SCU) boxes fit on the Argo Trargo grid?

[spare cloud]

⅛ SCU boxes don't snap to any grid atm

[scarlet rover]

gracias

[spare cloud]

I suppose you meant Argo MPUV Cargo ?

Or Argo RAFT ?

[scarlet rover]

nope, Tractor

[spare cloud]

That's Argo MPUV-T

[scarlet rover]

ye Argo Trargo

[spare cloud]

No wtf is this name lol

[scarlet rover]

lol some brit used it and it sounds awful but found it amusing

[spare cloud]

It's so confusing

[scarlet rover]

Argo Cargo, Argo Trargo, then the other one nobody cares about

[wraith ice]

ironclad or hull c

[spare cloud]

Clad can land

Just saying

Hull C has the advantage of being in game

But it's not like it's working

[opal yoke]

Is there a trick to having your caterpillar show up for buying at Kudre Ore?

I am so damn close I am between their lampposts and still wont accept it as a location

[visual night]

It might be the server. You can use r_displayinfo 1 and check if it recognizes your location correctly

[snow badge]

In the Ironclad do we know if the Assault variant roof opens up or nah? In the page its odd they don't list it as a feature when you look over the Assault variant.

[hearty marlin]

damn, i mean i know it’s an alpha but I downloaded the game yesterday and I haven’t encountered a single mission that wasn’t bugged to the point beyond completion

[burnt crane]

we feel you

this is why i dont do missions at all lol

i just mine and salvage

[spare cloud]

Deliveries have always been the most newcomer friendly career

They have never worked reliably a single patch

I wish so damn hard CIG would do some Beta work on the deliveries

[desert crypt]

3.23.2 can’t come soon enuf ama’right!

[spare cloud]

Cargo refactor not gonna do shit for deliveries

[desert crypt]

Stock piling of refined ore comes to mind or even the un-refined saddlebags

[long pulsar]

bruh how do i get rid of it now

[fallow oxide]

Idk man, I quit for a full year because of them

They bug out quite often, but not as much as in the past

In the past it was like 50/50 chance of it bugging out

[spare cloud]

You only read my first sentence

Try again

[fallow oxide]

Oh wait, yeah, sorry

[spare cloud]

You wait for a refresh

[fallow oxide]

They definitely need some work, maybe a higher payout as well

[spare cloud]

RMC has even more waiting time than gold now

[long pulsar]

yh but im selling not buying

[spare cloud]

One you wait at buy point, the other at sell point

That's how it is now

[long pulsar]

oh

[spare cloud]

RMC has way less demand, and there's duping

[fallow oxide]

You pretty much have to stalk the TDD

Don’t go to area 18 as well

[long pulsar]

so should i stick to gold

i mean ig i could do beryl

now that i have caterpillar i can get way more of it

[fallow oxide]

I like doing both, doing gold is annoying though if anyone else is doing it in the server, shubin mining facility 18 gets swarmed by C2’s

[long pulsar]

does mining facility 18 sell beryl?

[fallow oxide]

Nah

[long pulsar]

hmm wonder why sctrade tools say it does

whats the best place to buy beryl then

[fallow oxide]

Oh, maybe it does then

I’ve never gone there for beryl, but I would check

[long pulsar]

nah i dont think it does

dont remember seeing beryl there

[spare cloud]

Ita > Lorville

Not sure if that's still the case, but in 3.22 it had close to unlimited stocks and demand on sell and buy points

[long pulsar]

ita?

like this?

[spare cloud]

Yeah

[long pulsar]

oh great

[spare cloud]

[long pulsar]

must be

[loud mural]

do you guys know if the hull A and the raft have a tractor beam to load the cargo ?

[long pulsar]

true sc gameplay, waiting for all my ships to get delivered

[spare cloud]

If they have one, !Erkul will have them listed

[wary tusk]

#DPSCalculator

• Calculator • Shops • Ships • Weapons •

[desert crypt]

Not Hull-A, I have one.

[loud mural]

damn, none of them have a tractor beam ...

[cedar flower]

RAFT should get one

But tbh
there is the large loading tool

so you dont really need one

[spark crest]

caterpillar counts as "medium" freight?????

[fallow oxide]

I mean, have you seen the other options?

[cedar flower]

Cat is tiny vs Hull E

[fallow oxide]

The hull series can carry what, like 2,000+ SCU’s?

Not to mention the BMM

[spark crest]

how much is the cat then

[long pulsar]

all my cargo disappeared from my phoenix...

i literally stored it

wtf man

900k

wouldve been over a mil once i sold it

[normal flax]

Hull-C right now can carry 4300 SCU

I think 4,312?

[flat quartz]

Hull c is 4608 I think

[cedar flower]

Hull C: 4600
Hull D: 20000
Hull E: 100000

[cedar flower]

550 SCU

[hearty marlin]

what could I do that is not buggy, that is most likely to work every time? I love the game and I want to play it but i won't buy it if i literally cannot play the game

[cedar flower]

mining and salvage both are pretty reliable

and then the combat stuff as well

[hearty marlin]

but i only have a titan LOL

i suppose I could have a try

[cedar flower]

bounty hunting in the titan works nicely

and for the other loops you can currently rent ALL ships at defensecon

for free

[hearty marlin]

which of these should i go for first!

thanks for the help

[cedar flower]

the certification

that starts leveling your mission types

[hearty marlin]

thanks :))

and im on the free trial

so if i buy the aurora MR pack, will i still keep the titan?@

its so far!

[cedar flower]

the titan is loaned to you for the free fly
you will lose it

however you can currently buy one with 25% off

[hearty marlin]

yeah thats a little out of my price range tbh

[cedar flower]

thats fine
Aurora is a great ship as well

[left schooner]

We need one person for transporting 2 ships one payement is 200k and the other is I need to find out how much ill be able to make then ill give a amount as well

Comabt ships please

[long pulsar]

just transporting them?

yk u can just go to the other location and request it at a terminal there

[left schooner]

Yeah we will be carrying cargo

[long pulsar]

ah ok

[left schooner]

Yeah lol

[long pulsar]

oh u mean u need an escort

[left schooner]

Yeah skyguy

[long pulsar]

id accept but most combatesqe ship i have is the connie :/

[left schooner]

Gotcha

But you can rent ships from drakecon rn

Including combat

[long pulsar]

yeah true

well for 200k ill do it

[left schooner]

Ok

[spare cloud]

Ask in #looking-for-session instead

[long pulsar]

server just 30k'd :/

[scarlet rover]

oh wow I don't think I've seen a 30k at all since 3.23 dropped

[long pulsar]

seriously?

its not like a regular 30k but it has big text saying blah blah please wait

ive had like 3

not including the crazy lagspikes that lasted minutes

[scarlet rover]

does it wipe your cargo? or just pauses the game for a bit?

[long pulsar]

not sure if it wipes it but it pauses the game for a good few minutes