industrial-professions

[north oyster]

ah, it's the black one like I use on the C2

[scarlet rover]

The black and gold concierge skin. Checking the reddit, I have only seen posts of it in the PTU. Before contacting CIG to ask for help, wanted to make sure it wasn't an intended restriction

[north oyster]

It's not, it seemed to work fine in the PTU. You can do an IC or concierge route just to make it noticed

[narrow kettle]

I was selling there before aswell but since last night, my cargo doesnt show up in the terminal...

the server I'm on is running at 30 fps because there is like 10 people on it. everything is super smooth.

same, I posted on IC and wrote at ticket.

[narrow kettle]

I don't think it's a restriction. After some research yesterday I found out that the olympia skin also dissapeared when 3.22 released. Apparently the paint just likes to go away.

Also, how would it be a restriction? The paint isnt even in my storage, like the item itself is nowhere to be found ingame, while all my other paints are there

[frosty sentinel]

Yes it’s tied to the E1

[narrow kettle]

thats just wrong. In 3.23 I was using the olympia on the C1. With 3.23.1, the paint just fully vanished out of any possible inventory. It's not in the game at all.

[visual night]

Do you have displayinfo turned on? I just landed at an outpost, and my current player location is Stanton1. Meaning I definitely can't buy/sell, until the location updates

[latent stirrup]

is the cargo bug going to be fixed next patch? everytime i go to sale i have issues selling that sc tools points me to

[narrow kettle]

Need to test that. I went from A18 to lorville and I still couldnt sell there

[native hatch]

Where do you go in everus to do the idiris tour?

[dire spoke]

😢

[latent stirrup]

do you know when 4.0 is?

like weeks or months out

[native hatch]

probably december kekw

think they're shooting for q3

[visual night]

Definitely more like months but no one knows for sure. Unless something unexpected comes up I'd say at least 4 months until the full wipe, probably longer

[latent stirrup]

ah ok ty for the info

[dire spoke]

damn I've been srewed by sc trade tools

[north oyster]

what's the IC you used? I'll contribute

[visual night]

What material?

[dire spoke]

medical supplies, 600 SCU and I cant sell it anywhere

[visual night]

Oof yeah....places have really low stock to buy

[dire spoke]

why does the page not tell me that? 😢

[north oyster]

there are bugs in trading atm. Also, all the SC Trade info is static

all external sites are that way

[dire spoke]

yea okay but there are certain things that dont change

like how not a single station buys more than 10 SCU of medical supplies at a time

[north oyster]

this is called "gained knowledge from playing" ...

[dire spoke]

yeah well

great knowledge

that you cant really check how much a station is able to buy

unless you go there and try to sell it

[north oyster]

trade/cargo and everything associated is about to get a 100% blender change

[dire spoke]

great I hope they add a market where you can see demand or at least some approximation

[visual night]

I've been waiting over 30 mins to sell my RMC ghost cargo. No matter what you try, there are issues or a lot of other people doing what you wanna do

[dire spoke]

trading?

[visual night]

Yeah sitting at Orison TDD

[north oyster]

yeah, fly into Area18 and you'll see a grave yard of ships as others work to leverge the dupping bug

[visual night]

Not that I would ever take advantage of something like that....

[dire spoke]

xdd

[north oyster]

[dire spoke]

I legit just searched up an sc trading site

and I thought I could make 200k on a full cargo

I'm not even trying to exploit

[visual night]

You could find some quick jumps, go to each in sequence. By the time you jump to the first again the demand will be reset

[north oyster]

I normally average 250K or so with Hemp in a C2 cargo run from Pyro JP to A18, but I"m not trading anything any more until some hotfixes or new patch hit

[dire spoke]

yeah I've been jumping around hurston selling it off slowly

[visual night]

You're just deep in the space truckin roleplay

[north oyster]

I want to switch to the off-grid hermit role just mining with the ROC, hoping this last build fixed that issue with the laser

but I think the issue with trade permeates to everything in game, so trade with gems might be an issue

[dire spoke]

so if everyone is duping

I guess theres never any demand?

on whatever they are trying to dupe

[narrow kettle]

https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-114214#contribution:e1b192b7-aea1-4cb5-a39a-00557adc61cf

my own. It didn't show me that it there already is a post about that

anyways, what's a good place to sell RMC to instead of A18?

from my testing I've learned that I simply can not sell RMC at A18 anymore. Cargo not showing up. It does work on lorville but the demand just seems extremely low. I just had wto wait 2x10 minutes to sell 29 scu lmao. After the first refresh I could only sell 22 scu

[scarlet rover]

There was a CIG post from 7mo ago that claimed the Olympia would not be released until the E1 was released.
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/s/6zMeyUwtSR

But I thought I had used it previously, and you mentioned you used it in 3.23. So I guess I'll try submitting a concierge support request

[narrow kettle]

I can just tell you that I had it on my C1 until the servers came back on for 3.23.1 - and I already submitted a regular support ticket.

However, still, the item itself ismissing

[dire spoke]

oh my god

I could sell 500 scu at once at lorville

only took me like 2 hours to get rid of 600 scu medical supplies xd

[visual night]

Nice!

[dire spoke]

never buying that again

[proud pumice]

After chat I'm realizing why I can't sell a damn thing I scraped with my vulture. . . . .

[dire spoke]

Is buying beryl at hdms-ryder and selling at lorville still viable?

[proud pumice]

Other than RMC and beryl, any good money makers at the moment?

[visual night]

Probably? I've had consistent numbers for Beryl, usually check uexcorp and trade tools for agreement

[proud pumice]

Ty

[dire spoke]

thx

[loud kraken]

Is there actual Astatine at Shubin mining? Everytime I go it doesn't show up on crago terminal. Thx!

[dusty crag]

I have a permeant cargo awaiting transfer message on all of my ship I was doing hull C hauling and it never disappeared never after I relog and sold the cargo

[north oyster]

dupe bug

and cargo overall is approaching fubar

[dusty crag]

So I am going to have this on my screen until it's fixed

[north oyster]

I don't understand all the associated issues out there with trade we are having because I have avoided doing any trade since this patch has dropped

I'm resting on all my prior patch aUEC earnings for the moment and going to switch to mining for now

[scarlet rover]

Thanks for the input, I'll try the same!

[north oyster]

thanks!! I contributed

[mossy wolf]

Where can you find maze?

[idle dune]

How do you fix the ghost cargo thing?

[visual night]

Claiming your ship will clear the locked grid

[idle dune]

Thanks

[pastel anvil]

Data runners and info sellers are going to be key to this. I hope good routes can be found by them and then that data sold.

[steel violet]

anyone have any thoughts on when the zeus cl is comin out>

[dire spoke]

is that something CIG is planning to implement?

[pastel anvil]

They have talked about it but we don't know where it sits on the roadmap until they update the Progress Tracker. Even without, there are orgs which do this.

[sour delta]

when i buy rmc and sell it then go bacl to fill up my ship again it says that the cargo is full even if theres nothing in it but when i go to admin it says theres nothing in the cargo

[covert creek]

why do they leave their C2s there though? i don't understand why they wouldn't store them or use them after? like does it break them? so weird

[north oyster]

Exploit a cargo bug to sell over and over

[covert creek]

yeah but why don't they take their ships after tho?

[north oyster]

Someone who's taken advantage of an exploit would not clean up after themselves

[covert creek]

does the server not despawn them? or is it just so many people that even after they despawn more come i guess

[frosty sentinel]

They confirmed when the Spirit series released that it’s tied to the E1s release. It’s very likely a mistake that they reversed

[near swallow]

People may be abandoning their hercules in order to reclaim them because, so I've heard, when cargo vanishes it can block grid spots from being used even after the cargo is sold.

[short oriole]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[dire spoke]

Did they fix the duping exploit?

or I just found a bug

I can't see my C2's storage grid on the trading terminal when it is stored

so I can't sell anything in it's cargo unless I retrieve it

[near swallow]

When dealing with on grid cargo, best to not have the ship stored when buying/selling.

[dire spoke]

Okay

just a habit

[near swallow]

That avoids the bugs associated with cargo vanishing.

[dire spoke]

from the old days

I assume this is why so many peolpe abandon their ships

[near swallow]

My assumption is that they are storing their ships, selling their cargo, (maybe twice, maybe not) but then the cargo grid spots are bugged and they have to reclaim. So they take the ship out, park it somewhere, respawn, and reclaim.

And quite possibly doing that over and over again.

[sterile ridge]

^

?

I’m scared to log on lol

[dusty drift]

Tried Lorville and A18 it NB really better to sell?

[whole phoenix]

Orison should be the safer area to sell imo

Because it's not possible to land a ship on Cloudview to do a quick sell

[narrow kettle]

does anyone has a clue why I cant buy commodities into my ship cargo anymore? Ship is simply not showing up, despite I was buying at those locations before.

Is there a workaround? Claiming ship maybe? Storing and serverhopping didnt help so far.

[dusty drift]

sounds like it's just not detecting the ship in the loading area

[narrow kettle]

kinda, but idk how to fix that. It's definitely close enough or inside the loading area.

[visual night]

I had to spend 2 hours at the Orison TDD selling cargo. So many people selling RMC that I could only do 50-200 at a time, and sometimes demand would be maxed before it even dropped

[visual night]

This happened to me this morning, I server hopped and was able to get my location recognized after trying a couple

[whole phoenix]

Welp, that proves there's no safe area to sell right now

Stupid exploit

[visual night]

There aren't good locations, but there are good times. If you're willing to wake up at 4a

[whole phoenix]

I assume the demand for T0 and T1 mining goods isn't dead yet?

[visual night]

Yeah I think it's just RMC being flooded right now

[near swallow]

When I tried to sell some RMC at Orison (panel scraping) I had to wait a bit for demand too. Seems like RMC is how people are making money right now.

[visual night]

If the economy was more functional, RMC would have a complete price crash and it would balance out more

[near swallow]

Considering where you currently buy RMC, if things were more realistic, there might be other consequences too. Because I have suspicions about where the RMC is actually coming from. 🙂

[narrow kettle]

I keep trying, I have switched ships like 3 times and hopped on 4-5 servers so far

[visual night]

It also doesn't help that pressing charges was bugged. Not sure if that was fixed in .1 or still not working

[narrow kettle]

the RMC is coming from all the ships peopel abandon at the tradesposts 😛

[visual night]

I was on really early, so I might have gotten lucky on an unbroken server

[hollow sedge]

i'm looking all all the ships in the game and I see this glaring hole where an argo ship with a hangar of some sort should be

[brittle orchid]

should be fine

and if it isn't fine, then there's nothing to do about it

everyone loses an expensive shipment in some way, just last night my friend made the mistake of going down the elevator on his c2 in quantum when he had 3 mil worth of goods on him

[mystic bolt]

Is hauling a thing in this patch?

[half solstice]

any specificy about that question

[mystic bolt]

Can i do hauling and make aUEC reasonably ok with little to no issues/losses

[half solstice]

well

you could

[sterile ridge]

Thx I’ll lyk

Yesterday was my first day actually playing cause the new update made most my binds useless in my hotas

[half solstice]

rmc is the hot commodity now but so far ive nearly always had issues at the outpost trade stations. before the .23.1 patch i just hauled beryl making about 20% each trip

and some smaller trips along the route as wll

[sterile ridge]

We love space drug dealing

[half solstice]

rmc aint drugs unless you like sniffing metal i guess

i dont judge

[molten bobcat]

Why can't I select my ship while at the dunboro commodity terminal?

[half solstice]

coz its jank and doesnt work

[molten bobcat]

Do hurston ones work?

[brittle orchid]

honestly I've just been running beryl, heph, and asta

I have a solid 3 point route that doesn't take too long as long as I focus

with a ts-2 in my cat I can make the same as I would with a full load of rmc when you factor in how long it takes to wait for rmc to be in demand lmao

[compact halo]

Makers point is broken too

[karmic vigil]

I loaded my C2 with 6 8scu boxes and filled them with gear from my local inventory. I took off and went to Seraphim to then realized the boxes were gone when I got to the cargo area. I lost so much stuff. Is this a known bug?

[visual night]

The boxes might be invisible? If they are, they could be lootable

Usually that applies to storing and retrieving with cargo, if you just flew with them in the back I don't think that's a known bug

[slim nova]

so where is that button now ?

[visual night]

Only other advice I have is to take advantage of the C2's storage upstairs, instead of the cargo boxes. Fits a lot of gear, if you were moving ship parts they may be too large.

[visual night]

The Recycled Material item on the left, under In Demand. You're trying to select that material, which will make the Sell button show up.

You're blocked from selecting the material, because Unregistered. Click up and down OUTSIDE of the RMC rectangle, but close to the outline. Used to be right side, near the top. Could be right side near the bottom

[slim nova]

Got it thx mate

[hollow sedge]

Just wanted to mention that argo is the coolest

[copper ibex]

Any cargo that makes profit that a pirate won't chase me for?

[hollow sedge]

Not really because they are hunting for thrill rather than profit. Do less traveled areas and take uncommon quantum chains.

Practice fast quantum spooling and corkscrew in nav mode to disengage. Getting caught low atmosphere is kinda unavoidable death though because you can't spool quantum. So be extra observant in atmosphere

[near swallow]

In my experience Beryl tends to be pretty safe. Say Ita to Orison for the larger ships. For smaller ships I did SAL-5 to Orison.

Only time I took indirect routing with Beryl was one day when someone took the com array down.

Was probably unrelated to anything I was doing, but it made me take precautions.

[dusty crag]

any fix for any unclaimed cargo will be forefitted bug it pops up on all of my ships after I did hull C trading (loading and off loading cargo)I reinstalled the game relogged and it still didn't work

[near swallow]

Don't have Hull C, have no clue

[muted sparrow]

@visual night Do you have a sc-trade server?

id like some more help in trading please

[lost bluff]

do people not get banned for duping glitching/ having glitched money on their acc?

[muted sparrow]

not if its through normal means

and not being obnoxious about it

[hollow sedge]

Boys will be boys

[visual night]

Nope I just use the public sites, mostly an independent operator occasionally running with friends

I've only been playing a couple months, I'm honestly probably not the best trader to get tips from. Didn't do much of it until 3.23

[spark tapir]

any hull-c trader here? What upgrade should I do for the Quantum Drive?

[visual night]

TS-2 is fastest, I use it in my C2

[spark tapir]

will see if I get one on Seraphim Station, I can still equip it if I'm on the pad? or I need to retrieve the ship?

[visual night]

Hmmm getting one might be a problem. Orison Cousin Crow's has it but seraphim doesn't have ship parts. So you need a way to haul it up

You have to store the ship first, in order to equip parts in the Vehicle Loadout tab

[dark crystal]

does anyone know how to fix this bug where a commodity shop terminal says my ship is full of cargo when there is really nothing inside?

it's preventing me from loading my ship

[marsh briar]

Is the merchantman worth retaining for cargo or would I benefit from just getting rid of it in favor of a hull series ship? I solo

[inner ridge]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[lost bluff]

Bmm is the biggest land hauler hull e is the biggest space/cross system hauler

in the future it might be like what it is now High value cargo in landable ships low value in large space frighters

[gray basalt]

been waiting for more then 1h in front of the trade terminal in hurston and it doesn't refresh

anyone experienced this before?

[manic kayak]

same Im blocked at area18 TDD since about 1h

[delicate girder]

So I go to Dunboro and land as close as a can to the scrap shop and go to the commodity terminal in that shop, but it doesn't show my ship as a destination even though it really close. Any ideas why?

[gray basalt]

i tried switching server after like 15 min of waiting in the new server it refresh

[upbeat merlin]

is the merchantman in game yet?

[spare cloud]

No lol

Come back in 6 years

Or 12

[bold sinew]

can you QT with a cargo box in your ship's tractor beam?

[spare cloud]

I believe only the SRV can QT with stuff in tractor beam

Can't be sure, try for yourself or ask someone else who tried, cause I didn't

[half solstice]

dunboro is broke

[delicate girder]

Well apparently Rappel is too the same way because I just went there and the commodity terminal did the same thing. That doesn't make any sense to me because I bunch of people have been taling about making run from rappel today.

Could CIG have make it so those locations just don't sell the C2s any more ... only smaller ships?

[deft sigil]

I would be weary about trading at rappel because people like me get missions to kill swarms of NPCs there and decide the fastest way to clear that mission would be to drop A2 bombs all over the place

[delicate girder]

I'm a big boy and that's not the point. It's just not working.

In both cases I was littlerall on top of the commonidy terminal:

Here's the terminal showing that the ship which is overhead is not detected:

What am I doing wrong?

[half solstice]

it just doesnt w ork

[delicate girder]

What ya mean? It doesn't work for any ship? I was listening to people run it in an audio chat session tonight or act like they were anyway.

[lost bluff]

ive done so many runs that I now have over 141mill from legit runs and a lot of them were from rappel

[half solstice]

idfk i tried 4 or 5 times yesterday at different stations and none registered my ship so i just gave up

[lost bluff]

rip

[half solstice]

now i do other things rather than hang around wondering lol

[delicate girder]

Then any ideas why it's not working for me?

[lost bluff]

did you do anything to bork your ship you werent supposed to? did you try recalling your ship?

[delicate girder]

Being holier than thou and not helpful. Nice!

[half solstice]

huh? lol

i mean

it clearly wasnt working for me..so instead of me hanging around wondering why i just went to do something else? how is that being holier than thou lmao

[delicate girder]

Oh, I missed that line. You were trying to be helpful there.

[half solstice]

well. good luck. im gonna go run beryl or some shit instead

all these rmc traders borking my reclaimer runs

🕊️

[delicate girder]

That's what I've been doing. Guess I missed the RMC party.

[half solstice]

its still here just a lot bigger

they nerfed scraping values but kept the prices so it doesnt even feel worth it anymore. better do trading dont need to waste time flying out and scraping

[delicate girder]

Hey, what ship(s) did you try it in? I'm curious if it recognizes smaller ships.

[half solstice]

c2

but i did fly out in my c1 once to dunboro because of bounty. didnt register as well

[delicate girder]

I'm confused now. Now you're talking about scraping and bounties. I was just wondering if this cargo run might work with a smaller ship.

[half solstice]

huh

i flew to dunboro to do a bounty in my C1. i landed. since i was in the area i had a look at the terminal. did not register any ship. nothing to buy. nothing to select

well. i hope you figure it out..

[delicate girder]

Now that's clear. Thanks

[gleaming temple]

Is the Freelancer Max bugged? I've put two refinery jobs into it and yet there is no cargo appearing?

[fast bloom]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[north oyster]

there is a bug with refined cargo not showing up, it is there, but not visible. You should still be able to trade it. However, cargo has some serious challenges at the moment, so you may have to claim the MAX back to the refinery station to use it the second time. I have avoided cargo this patch

[gleaming temple]

Ahhh thank you for the info! I went full send it mode and put 4 jobs into the max and sure enough you're right they were there to sell

[north oyster]

I'm just not sure that it clears out of the cargo grid, there's an exploit going now on doing trade involving cargo. That's why you dozens of abandoned ships around places like Area18

[visual night]

If you sell while the ship is landed but not stored, your cargo grid will be cleared correctly. If the ship is stored when you sell, the grid will stay blocked by whatever was sold

[north oyster]

Thanks for the clarification, I had not looked iinto it and my poor C2 has NOT been spawned this patch at all

[visual night]

I haven't intentionally duped cargo. But I have been buying half full, selling that half, buying half again (at buy terminal it shows completely blocked)

And at the 2nd seller, if I happen to sell the new half and old half, I'm not complaining...

I don't do the logout/backspace stuff that some are seemingly using to make it happen

[north oyster]

it's part and parcel of the game. I did some heavy trade in 3.23.0 to get my wallet a little happier, but now I'm just mining with the ROC. Though I've run into mismatch issues with the gems selling them

[red lion]

With it being Invictus week. What are yalls preferred cargo haulers? I’m stuck between a caterpillar and the c2?

[visual night]

C2 is my go to, got it in 3.22 for ERTs since it's really easy to load manually. And for the capacity

It's a little more boring than the Caterpillar, which has more character

[red lion]

That’s what I’ve been reading. But I’d figure this be a solo just cargo run for money type of vibe

[worthy ibex]

what’s the website for cargo routes?

[half solstice]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[visual night]

Either can work but C2 has slightly more capacity, and lots of convenient built in storage boxes upstairs for gear. It's designed as a 2 crew ship but not bad at all to solo

[half solstice]

c2 is nice im soloing it now as a hauler and it looks sick

[red lion]

What do you all usually haul? Just buy and sell? Or like Mine or salvage and sell that?

[half solstice]

i buy and sell

not rmc because of the exploits going on (cant even do salvaging sadge)

i do beryl now mostly

[visual night]

3.23 I started trading more since I've had awful luck finding a bunch of empty cargo ships in ERTs. I prefer to get paid to find free cargo, but don't find good stuff as consistently as 3.22

[half solstice]

im just gambling all my money away doing trade routes lol

hopefully i dont crash to a bug or s omething like the few times that have happened already

[red lion]

lol. I like the transport life but I just don’t want to end up broke

[half solstice]

you wont if you dont go all in on your cargo

which is probably like the number 1 tip

spend only how much you are comfortable with losing in case anything happens

[visual night]

If you run Beryl, your biggest concern is usually a game crash or disconnect. Possibly interdiction but most pirates are focusing on RMC buy/sell routes

[red lion]

I’ll try it. Gunna get the c2 this week then.

What else you guys have used your c2 for?

[half solstice]

my biggest concern was praying the hangar doors wouldnt kill me on landing or take off lmao

[wide talon]

Theres a Mission where you shoot down cargoships and then collect their cargo
Does anybody recall the name/where to accept it/how it works?

[half solstice]

previously a lot of people got c2s to do ERT missions

usually 2 people since c2 doesnt have a lot of gusn under pilot

then go accept ERT missions and prayge for illicit cargo

[half solstice]

ERT bounty hunters

hunting*

nerfed now

[turbid blade]

You can still solo erts with a c2, but if you're going just for illicit cargo any constellation series ship will be a lot better for you

[wide talon]

Do only ERTs have cargo with em?

[half solstice]

i believe havent touched it in a long time

no but they have the biggest ships and more in the fleet so higher chances

[wide talon]

👍🏻

Ty

[visual night]

I think VHRT and ERT both have decent chances. HRT has low chances of small numbers, eg 2 eggs or a few quantanium

[half solstice]

ye i remember last patch i had a decent load from a vhrt

was more than the erts i did that day lmao

[visual night]

Yeah the time/effort to put into an ERT is making VHRT a lot more attractive, since it's usually easier to complete quickly

[worthy ibex]

i’ve only got a c1 for cargo atm, what route should i do to aim for a c2?

[half solstice]

https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes

[worthy ibex]

so slam probably?

[visual night]

If you want big profits quickly, illegal stuff works. If you wanna go slow and make steady safe numbers, Beryl. RMC at early hours works too for max profit, but risky and higher investment cost

[half solstice]

great the terminal isnt recognizing the cargo on my ship lmao

its outdated

[worthy ibex]

thanks for the tips

[red lion]

Have any of you guys used the coni Taurus for cargo hauling? Was just looking at the event floor and the massive drop down bay is pretty dope

[half solstice]

not me personally but i think its quite popular as a starting point

[red lion]

Ugh tough decisions 🙃🙃

[vernal rock]

should I get vulture or should I save up for something else?

[half solstice]

depends on what you want to do

tbh i'd lay off on the vulture //maybe// until the rmc stuff can be resolved but tbh with the amount of rmc you can get anyway per mission i dont think you would have any issues selling actually

[vernal rock]

there's issue with RMC?

[muted walrus]

is that more then gold?

[vernal rock]

gold barely have any supplies to buy

[vernal rock]

what's the issue with rmc?

[muted walrus]

which returns more profit that gold or beryl?

[half solstice]

kind of. rmc trading is lucrative now partially due to the high sell price/low buy price so everyone is exploiting some double sell exploit or something atm. so all the tdds are quite full of it

of course its usually super high amounts of scu not like a vulture would bring in

[vernal rock]

ahhh

yeah i've heard of that exploited before

I only had to do that sometimes to clear of my ghost cargo or else i wouldn't be able to buy stuff

been doing beryl, for some reason beryl got very high supply

[half solstice]

trading rn is a bit finnicky because of this so be wary

[half solstice]

coz not m any people are doing it lol

[vernal rock]

my ship just exploded when retrieve it into hangar

lost some cargo and loots ;x;

[half solstice]

f

[jovial aurora]

I think they already somehow manage to fix the double sell thing but TDD’s are still full even Arccorp 50K stock sells out in 5min

[half solstice]

dunno about fixing stuff i just had an issue where an outpost didnt have my updated inventory lol

but i think(?) tdd is shared among servers or something

[jovial aurora]

Yeah they are shared among servers but loreville sells out instantly and arccorp 5min after that’s 54K scu in RMC something ain’t adding up it wasn’t like that last patch

[half solstice]

idk i gave up on rmc this patch lol

[jovial aurora]

Selling 696scu in loreville is almost impossible I had to wait twice yesterday

[half solstice]

cant even salvage for money coz everyone is trading it

and nerfed asw

[jovial aurora]

Idk kinda like it but also don’t me and my friends like to pirate at pickersfield and reppel aswell

More opportunities

[half solstice]

then end up not being able to sell xd

[visual night]

In stock quantity doesn't instantly drop to zero. Once a place is full, the next refresh will reduce inventory by some percentage of the total. A18 has the largest demand so it'll drop by a decent amount. Orison will only drop by a few hundred, which means it instantly fills back up

[jovial aurora]

Yeah but stolen goodies go to grim anyways

[vernal rock]

i hate my life, i was doing cargo and then my lights went out

power gone

will the cargo be saved if i got disconnected?

[visual night]

If you can reconnect fast enough, sometimes

[vernal rock]

i tried to reconnect but then it disconnect again

300k gone

power still out

my day

[hexed root]

Hi im going to be new getting the game tommorow hopefully wheres the best place for me to start i want to proper get into Cargo and hauling and stuff

[vernal rock]

good luck trying not to have your whole cargo gone because of connections or power shortage

I had enough for today

[hexed root]

thank you

[visual night]

Unless you have a cargo ship from your game package or pledge store, get comfortable flying and landing in your starter. Maybe do a couple box delivery missions, then rent an RSI Constellation (I think Andromeda might be the only rentable).

Then look up commodities on uexcorp and sc trade tools. You'll probably want to stick with Beryl, but until you have a big enough wallet it'll be small quantities. Find a low price to buy, take it to a place with the highest price to sell.

[hexed root]

thank you

im gonna be doing this and a little bit of salvage if i can build up ill work my way i dont wanna be flying around crash with a lot of cargo

[dark crystal]

where can i sell a C2 full of stims

no where wants to buy this lol

[visual night]

For sure. It'll take a bit to figure out where to sell at each major spaceport or space stations too. The minimap helps, but be prepared to get a little lost. Global chat is usually nice to newer players, if you need to ask things like "where do I sell cargo on Orison" or "how do I land at Orison I can't find the hangars"

[hexed root]

yeah im probably gonna need a notepads worth of stuff to start

[visual night]

I saw Orison had a pretty large demand for them. A18 or New Babbage will probably take most of them, maybe with selling half and waiting 15 mins for the remainder

[hexed root]

but first gonna try the game out with the free alpha thing and stuff 🙂

[red lion]

I’m in the same boat and I’ve been on and off with the game for almost 10 years. Welcome to the club

[azure pasture]

where does everyone go for trading on hurston?

[spare ledge]

Pickers field, Rappel

[serene yew]

hi guys ^_^ pretty brand new so sorry for the nooby question. but whats one of the better commodity flips rn ?

[half solstice]

beryl

rmc is fucked because of exploit

easier to sell beryl

[spark tapir]

guys, can someone confirm if Seraphim Station buy larger inventory of Medical Supplies? In gallog.co it says that the inventory in 50k. But also says that port tressler is 5k (but I'm here and it doesnt have this demand =/)

[serene yew]

i did splurge and got a taurus x) gotcha . ive been doing gold

[half solstice]

i just use uexcorp to check supply and demand but its all user input like most trade tools

[serene yew]

ooooh

ty ty

[half solstice]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[half solstice]

this one also works

[serene yew]

yea thats the one that I was following

[spark tapir]

I think I just lost a 7.5M cargo because of Hull-C bug =/

[spare ledge]

Lost 8.5M with my C2. Cargo was in my Ship but as soon as i was in town it didnt show up in the TDD 😦

[serene yew]

ughh. my cargo inventory all bugged. shows that its all filled up even if I sold all of it earlier

[high shell]

I paid 30000 for 2 contracts on an arrow and a prospector and only made a return of 12000 after everything. Salvaging is unsustainable after this update. Needs to be fixed.

[near swallow]

Don't have ship stored when buying/selling and you may be able to avoid that.

[serene yew]

it wasnt. was merly in the hangar

[high shell]

I had a similar one where my shit was invisible on my cargo bay and I thought it was gone but it was still there.

[serene yew]

i flew so far just to have my ship filled >.< and im certain i sold em all cus i got the money lol

[strange nest]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[quartz ledge]

using trade tool is it better to look at pure profit or profit over time?

[high shell]

The trade tool told me New Babbage buys RMC. Got to New Babbage after flying 56000000 out of my way and it doesn't. The tool is useless.

Don't bother trying to use it.

[half solstice]

its not that its useless

rmc is a very hot commodity right now

because of exploits

its been like this since 3.23 lmao

(all tdds buy rmc)

[high shell]

Nope. New Babbage TDD says can't sell.

[half solstice]

because overstocked

[round jungle]

hey guys is salvaging and cargo selling still bugged? (like cant sell rmc and stuff) i just wanna chill while watching netflix lol

[rich skiff]

Yo homie , every single tdd, including Babbage, lrovillle, a18, orison are going to have no demand for rmc for the dupe. You can sell but it takes ages for the market to refresh and it only refreshes a small amount at a time and a18 has apparently the best refresh rate but I wouldn’t bother with it at all rn

[fathom tundra]

Hey all! Anyone know how the heck you are supposed to crack a 50k rock with a solo mole? Or is it just not possible now? I've been stampede and surging with a helix 2 on this one and am getting nowhere. 🤣 Can't find any valid 3.23 info on it.

[rich skiff]

Unless you are okay with selling in batches of <250 scu, and waiting upwards of 20 minutes each time to sell

[rich skiff]

Solo, mole ? Still never been on a mole but I tried to do roc mining and couldn’t out where to find hadanite with scan unlike 22 where it was question marks

[fathom tundra]

Yeah, I'm in this thing playing musical chairs 🤣 I've heard many people say they can crack 60k rocks solo, but I literally just cannot see how it's possible. 🤣 I'm using a mining gadget, strongest laser, stampede/surge and reiger c3, and the charge isn't even moving. haha

[rich skiff]

God that sounds so confusing I went reclaimer route instead of mole but man I wish I had that or vulture/prospector/mole. Plus my reclaimer got taken away for now lmao

[fathom tundra]

Saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame I was doing reclaimer stuff but between 3.23 and 3.23.1 I lost like 8 or 9 ships, reclaimer being one of them. xD

This is super frustrating. Used to be able to break big rocks solo in a mole, but it seems like it's just not possible anymore. haha Very unfortunate.

[rich skiff]

I lost my cutty and roc as well so really most I have to make money are c2 and carrack but trading is busted rn merc missions are okay I just havnt done them not rlly for the time. So im pretty stuck for now, next patch

Also lost like 7-9 mill to elevator and cargo bugs I wasn’t even tryna dupe down to like 2k auec its like maybe I should wait for next reset

[fathom tundra]

lol yeah I also lost a ton of stuff to the weird cargo grid bug when i was moving my entire life from Orison to a station. 🤣 Big bummers.

[rich skiff]

Yea. A lot of people are already talking about 4.0 and server meshing and while server issues don’t help some of these issues I feel like if they can’t get it working in a 100 player server the won’t when they mesh. They need to fix the economy, contracts, and new player experience asap

[shut escarp]

So I cant sell recycled materials at lorville. WTFFFF

[vestal ravine]

The system is overloaded with cargo dupers...

[shut escarp]

sheeesh

servers are shit rn I feel

[vestal ravine]

That's another problem. Try the AU servers when it's 4 am in Sydney.

[rich skiff]

still didnt work for me

[timid merlin]

ill trade my soul for 3m to buy myself a new ship 🙏🏻

[sinful agate]

how do i sell all the stuff in a container without having to press quick sell 150 times

[median tundra]

is commodity terminals down across the board or justr rmc? havent been able to buy from rappel or pickers farm. ship doesnt even show

[vestal ravine]

Dupe traders are hitting first RMC then other higher value trade items like Gold and Beryl. Server hop or wait till Monday morning.

[muted walrus]

f and I was getting into the microtech gold loop

[rich skiff]

What’s Monday morning

[reef grail]

Guys quick question im kinda new to trading and i wanna know what commodity is best to trade

[olive gull]

use this tool, input your ship and the money u want to invest https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes

[vestal ravine]

Hey be careful of the invisible cargo bug.

[hollow sedge]

!willitfit

Point a gamer to an up to date fit list please

[near swallow]

Not sure anything has been updated for the pulse

[near swallow]

!Fit

[wary tusk]

Can it fit?

Credit to RubenSaurus

[spare cloud]

Has been updated with Pulse already

It's just a line that says it fits everywhere

[near swallow]

Except it can't fit in ships that don't have an interior

So it's not entirely accurate

[spare cloud]

Yeah you'd have to turn brain on a second, but yes

[near swallow]

One thing that I find interesting is that with the Taurus, you could fit the Pulse and maybe a few other bikes in and still have a full load of cargo.

[spare cloud]

It works with almost all ships with a bit or cargo space

You can get a pulse in the cockpit area of the Cutlass or the 400i, it goes through doors

[near swallow]

Yeah, I'm just saying the Taurus has plenty of non-grid space for bikes. Pulse or not. 🙂

[spare cloud]

You can fly the thing around in a Starfarer or caterpillar

Yeah that's what I'm saying

[near swallow]

Not all cargo ships have a lot of extra space like that

[spare cloud]

Every ship 400i sized or bigger like the Connie has space for cargo and can fit many Pulse bikes at other places

[spare cloud]

Basically every thing below Nomad on this list can fit a pulse in habs area, corridors or whatever that's not taking any space on cargo grids

[proud pumice]

I've seen someone put a pulse in a Aurora so. . . .I think the does it fit argument is basically "yes"

[spare cloud]

The Pulse presentation video shows it in an Aurora

With a tractor beam, you can literally put it in any ship with a little cargo, I'm sure it fits in the Mustang Alpha cargo bay

[proud pumice]

I put mine in the underslung cargo bay of the 135

[vital stratus]

Are there still illgal erts?

[thick elbow]

why do people blow up ships that are landed for trading?

[sonic marlin]

selling rmc just impossible at the moment or something?

[hollow sedge]

Shops get messed up from exploit to sell cargo

[oak lagoon]

the question is not if it fits, but how many can we fit

i want to see someone floor to roof in pulses in a c2

[proud pumice]

i want to see the explosion when they take off lol

[gleaming bone]

Im trying to buy Cargo at an outpost, it shows Cargo Hold is full. It is not. How do I fix???

[spare cloud]

Reclaim the ship afaik

[gleaming bone]

And if that doesn't work?

[muted walrus]

shot it?

[spare cloud]

It should. Not store and retrieve. Reclaim. Abandon/destroy and reclaim

[gleaming bone]

Trying it

[opal isle]

how to find good cargo route?

[vestal ravine]

There's a cargo dupe exploit going around. Be sure to claim ship after every sale to be safe.

[vestal ravine]

Trade Tools website or talk to me in a dm mode.

[gleaming bone]

Yeah let me either waste wallet or my time by claiming EVERY time

Lol or maybe SC can make cargo running work the way it should

[sonic marlin]

is rmc paying less since demand is so low?

[gleaming bone]

Use the SC Trade tool to get approx. prices

[near swallow]

At areas like Picker's Field where people are going to buy RMC, some traders may blow up ships for their own safety, because any ship could have someone waiting inside it or outside near it that could hop in and attack them, say after they bought a load of RMC. Other people may blow up ships in case they have cargo in them. And some people just want to blow up every ship they see.

[warm totem]

the you get impounded (at New Babbage) and have to pay a fine, interestingly you may keep the cargo you just sold to sell again at the next stop...so bugs n all it seems to me cargo runs are fairly profitable - you just need to plan and be careful or bring an escort!

[near swallow]

You should not get impounded unless there is a real reason for that. It is possible at NB that the ship might get auto-stored, and thus screw up the cargo grid. So while you may be able to double sell one load, you might have to reclaim after in order to fix the grid. It's also possible this exploit might result in another money wipe.

[warm totem]

plan it out and go do it - best way, when you are somewhere look what they got for sale and then find out where to sell it then go there and see what they got for sale - eventually you will find a route you enjoy

[near swallow]

The economy is not that dynamic yet. So RMC prices can't crash the way they would in reality.

[warm totem]

hmmm, define "real reason" as it certainyl happened to me when I landed and didn't store the ship...nothing out of the ordinary otherwise - and yeah agreed RMC shoudl be crashing its ass off right now

[near swallow]

Impound should not happen unless you're doing something you should not, like parking in a hangar that is not yours. Now it is possible there's a bug with hangar assignment that might assign an occupied hangar to another player, and that would cause impound. But that would be a bug and not something that should happen. In 3.22 I think my ship got auto-stored at NB once, but not impounded. (as in no impound fee)

[scarlet rover]

anyone else have a workaround to get to a docking port ship? like the Hull C
I tried the "request large ship then Hull" with a C2, but didn't work

[near swallow]

Not quite sure what you are asking. Normally to get to a ship docked at a docking port, you'd take an elevator to that docking port. If that isn't working, you could possibly EVA to the ship or maybe retrieve and fly a small ship to the docked ship.

[scarlet rover]

The docking port is closed and sealed, I've had this issue since pre-.23 but looks like it hasn't been fixed

earlier Zorgh had shared a tip to request a C2 for a hanger, don't go to the hangar, then request the Hull C, and the hull would spawn in the hangar instead of floating outside the sealed docking port

[near swallow]

There are multiple bugs both with the Hull C and with docking ports, and they may not be that big a priority to fix.

[scarlet rover]

yeah that's what I was afraid of... just asking since I was curious if anyone else had been able to access theirs

[near swallow]

Oh, the ship switch thing, I've heard of it but never done it. But it would not likely work if the Hull C's spindle was extended.

You can always claim the ship at another location. In fact, if you claimed it at NB, A18, or Lorville, then it would have to go into a hangar.

[scarlet rover]

yup tried Lorville, it said unable to retrieve vehicle

hah in fact now it appears to have spawned at the docking port with spindles extended (they were closed 10 minutes ago when I posted here)

[worthy ibex]

is trading RMC the best go to atm for a good consistent run?

[vestal ravine]

Yes and no. There's all sorts of complications with trading now until patched. Please turn in your keys at the front desk.

[near swallow]

RMC market is flooded, if you don't want to sit around waiting for a chance to sell, I'd say pick another commodity.

And that is aside from the bugs

[worthy ibex]

ah alright, any recommendations for commodities that aren’t too popular that’ll still yield a good bit of cash

[near swallow]

Beryl is what I have done a lot of. Ita has supply and Orison has the best price I think.

Not quite the money maker RMC is, but that's why it's safer.

[vestal ravine]

It's also possible your cargo grid can become glitched out.

[worthy ibex]

yeah i’m aware of the glitches atm, super annoying aye

there’s always something in sc updates tho🤣

[vestal ravine]

Either buy, sell, claim or work with the exploit and double your profits.

[warm totem]

or ALL of teh above...

[delicate girder]

If you leave a ship on the pad in orison it will eventually get auto stored and the cargo will be fine right?

Well, I just learned a hard lesson. Don't leave a ship on in the hanger then go sell part of the cargo then go try to store the ship after selling some of the cargo! I just lost 6 million that way.

I litteral just went back to the ASOP and stored the C2 with most of a load of RMC and it destroyed it instead of storing it.

[nova plank]

I just store the ship immediately. Then if I want the cargo to work properly, I take out another ship, fly to the closest port of where you plan on picking up more cargo and claim it there (there's a wait of course), that way the cargo works flawlessly each time.

[delicate girder]

What does taking out another ship have to do with it? I don't understand what any of what you just said has to do with the potential bug I just tried to explain.

[nova plank]

Basically when you claim the ship, it removes the bug with the cargo so when you buy cargo to store, it will store properly for that run.

I do this for my mining runs.. Once I take my cargo ship to a TDD site (Lorville for example), I take a smaller craft back to my mining home, and claim the cargo ship while I go back out mining.

That way the cargo works every time

[delicate girder]

Oh, yes. I know about that bug. A workaround people have been doing is to leave the ship on in the hanger or ona pad and sell without storing. The problem with that, aparently, is that if you sell only part of the cargo and them try to store, it will do what it just did to me and destroy the ship.

[nova plank]

I tried that. It still auto stores if the location is busy. Had that happen to my Taurus. Got half way to TDD and got the prompt that the ship was being stored.

[delicate girder]

And it auto stored just fine for you in that case? I sure wish I'd just waited for it to do that.

[nova plank]

Yeah, but the cargo bugged afterwards.

Brought it out, and couldn't fit anything more on the Taurus.. Had to take it out some place, have a friend pick me up, then claim it.

The cargo bug is really immersion breaking for me, so I don't deal with it.. I just do insurance fraud on the Taurus, 🤣

So it can keep working without issue.

[delicate girder]

Yes, I fully understand that bug and the workarounds. The problem is partially selling and then partially storing I think is a problem.

[nova plank]

Yeah that one's a nasty one.

My Taurus was never fully filled up but never had a issue storing it

[delicate girder]

But did you ever have the scenario I originally explained where you sold some and then stored the remainder? .... and paid for it dearly?

[nova plank]

No, as I never really sold partial. lol

[delicate girder]

Well that's the problem I was explaining. Not all the stuff we just discussed which we both already knew. LOL!

[nova plank]

lol yeah

I'll have to try it one day on one of my refined runs with the cheap shit. lol

[delicate girder]

I'm a glutten so I'm trying it again though it cleaned out most my money so I can't do it with a C2 this time. LOL

[nova plank]

lol

I've never really got a handle on cargo running and finding the best profits.. I just mine, collect the ore, refine it, then transport it for profit.

[green escarp]

would yall say its possible to "safely" transport 10-12 packages on a Avenger Titan? not sure how the collision will be in a small space

[nova plank]

Should be fine. If it's actual cargo, you can just snap it to the cargo grid.

[delicate girder]

Is it metrocetner or commerce line where the TDD is in Loreville? Can't remember.

No Central Busines District right?

[nova plank]

Yeah Central Business District

[delicate girder]

Damn, is there a place other than GH where you can sell RMC fast?

Tried Orison and Loreville so far and it's a pain in the ass. No demand.

[nova plank]

Area 18

Just takes one tram to the TDD

[delicate girder]

So area 18 has more demand?

I'm not talking how easy it is to get there.

I'm well familiar with Orison and Area18. I just hate Loreville.

[nova plank]

I haven't had issues selling at Area 18.. THough not sure how well the demand is... I think all areas are just shit in terms of demand.

[delicate girder]

Yeah, bet so.

[green escarp]

i really overestimated how much space these took up..

[delicate girder]

Oh yeah packages are small. Think there's an 8th or tenth of an SCU.

[green escarp]

tempted to grab a few of these and just fill the back to the brim lol

[delicate girder]

What packages are you trying to transport?

[green escarp]

gotta collect 10 from some depot then deliver em. pays 15k

can i stack them on eachother?

[graceful kiln]

not to carry, no

one at a time, unless you throw them in an Ursa

[green escarp]

no i mean can i stack them on the ship? to conserve space

[limpid sluice]

yeah

[delicate girder]

Didn't know there was one where you had to collect that many packages.

[green escarp]

hour and ahalf for 15k.

[delicate girder]

Ack, I can help you make money much faster.

[green escarp]

id say i made closer to 20 after selling all the crap i looted from the outposts

i started at 11 and just finished selling and transferring all my stuff at my preferred port. not worth the 20k and some brain rot tbh

[delicate girder]

Yeah, doing bounties or salvage or mining or anything else it more fun than that.

Even hauling, it's easy to loose a lot of money hauling. I lost more than I made today.

[green escarp]

yeah im gonna try some mining tomorrow. finally found a multitool in one of the last buildings i checked

[delicate girder]

Lost 6 million to a game bug.

[green escarp]

i dont think i have any hauling missions

might not have a big enough ship idk

[delicate girder]

Hauling is not a mission yet.

[green escarp]

im confused

[delicate girder]

You just buy low and sell high.

[green escarp]

how do you lose money on something that isnt a thing yet

mission*

wait is there gambling?

[delicate girder]

There's gambling the game or other players won't fuck you every day. LOL!

The reason hauling is the most dangerous part of the game is that you have to buy the commodities with money you already have and rick it while you fly to deliver it.

If you crash you ship, get attacked or the game bugs out you can loose the whole load.

[green escarp]

oh your talkin bout buying a bunch of something and selling it elsewhere. trade routes, gotcha

[green escarp]

you had me so lost til this

[delicate girder]

That's the better way to put it yes.

[green escarp]

that actually makes alot more sense money making wise..

bit more risky than bannerlords but im down for it. didnt realize you could do that on here

[delicate girder]

I tried trading 696 SCUs of the most expensive commodity and lost today.

[green escarp]

i only have like 80k so i wont be investing to much

[delicate girder]

The game detroyed my ship while storing it.

[green escarp]

not to start at least

[delicate girder]

The best way to make money at the start it to maybe do ROC mining or join a party of other players and help stack salvage material or something.

You could also do mining in a ship. ROC mining is using a ROC vehicle on the ground.

For me though, I like the bounty hunting most. I liked it far more before this last game release though.

[green escarp]

im not very good at flying yet let alone space combat

[delicate girder]

.
.
Hey guys, do TDD terminals every actually update themselves without you manually refreshing them. I've always been too impatient to find out. LOL!
.

[green escarp]

i think my very first bounty ended up in a kamikaze

[delicate girder]

Let me guess. The NPC kamikased you?

[green escarp]

i think i might have hit him but sure ill blame the npc

[delicate girder]

It's always good to the up strafe a litte when flying at the target.

[green escarp]

yeah im actually able to play without stuttering along and found some settings that help flying so hopefully no more kamikazing

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[green escarp]

neat

[delicate girder]

https://uexcorp.space/

also https://www.gallog.co/

[devout quail]

Did you find out?

Been trying to sale for like 30min.

[copper ibex]

is there so trick to get my ship to pop up at Picker's field?

[marsh briar]

what scu range have you guys noticed profits coming in at a relatively good pace

im starting to think the connie taurus might be right up my alley

[slate spruce]

Depends on initial investment. Both drugs and rmc are quite good from ~100 scu upwards, but require a lot of cash for initial purchase and are a bit dangerous. Others make smaller margins, but taurus should be able to deliver some safe & good payloads of gold, diamonds, laranite or beryl, without risking waiting for stockpile.

[marsh briar]

You have a good point. I am redoing my fleet to basically have more 1-2 crew vessels

my organization has different wings that specifically have people with certain ships so i am sure ill hop in with them to go onboard larger salvage or mining but for me I was just trying to think logically if I did a prospector run back to back maybe 2-3 times then, what would I need to possibly just full send all that

I was looking at the connie taurus because of its multi role use right now and good SCU capacity. idk about hull B because im not sure if it can land planetside

[slate spruce]

I think taurus is currently best in its class, and with cargo elevators will probably get even better. It was just for free 2-day rent at invictus, if you wanted to test it (now there are some cool crusader ships, also worth checking out)

[marsh briar]

Does anyone know if the Hull B can land on planetside

[worthy ibex]

just lost 1 mil on game crash'

fun fun

[brittle kraken]

I don't think we know yet. The main concept images show it that when the spindles are deployed no, you can't land on a planet. But some concept images do show a configuration which would allow you to land with spindles deployed.

[marsh briar]

hmm yeah im reading a lot of mixed yes and no

thank you!@

[worthy ibex]

do the trade terminals auto refresh?

[manic kayak]

yes

[worthy ibex]

gonna be waiting a while for RMC

[worthy ibex]

how long does it take for trade points to refresh?

[slim talon]

is cargo bugged in this version ?

just filled my andromeda with 90 scu of cargo from a minning session, only to discover it disappeared when I arrived at my destination...

[vast patrol]

there are some cargo bugs yes. i would recomment attmepting to sell anyways might just be invisible?

[slim talon]

I tried, the terminal shows 0 scu stored unfortunately

i'll try to go back to the refinery, see if it maybe didn't registered idk..

[visual night]

This is a little late, but yes they do. You can't have your ship selected, or else the material will stay in No Demand.

Scroll down in the Sell column (or collapse In Demand) to see the material under No Demand. When the TDD has space, the material will disappear. Then select your ship and the material will be sellable.

[visual night]

About 15 mins. If someone else is selling at the same TDD, in the same Region, they sometimes get the update first and demand goes away instantly, requiring another 15 mins before it drops again.

It doesn't drop to zero stock, some percent of the total is emptied. Which is why it can almost immediately fill back up

[visual night]

Someone else in the mining channel was unable to retrieve their refinery order. The screen showed enough space to retrieve it, but trying to move it did nothing (and the order stayed at the refinery)

[slim cove]

i hope this is the place to post this, im trying to pick up packages but the stations says im trespasing and before i also got shot down. is there a way to not trespass and be able to do my contract?

[hollow sedge]

!fit

[wary tusk]

Can it fit?

Credit to RubenSaurus

[vagrant sapphire]

eneyone else having trobble where u ship just dosent show up on the commodity tab when trying to buy

[small hornet]

Yes

Also if I store my ship physical cargo disappears but it shows that I have full cargo at Admin.

[brittle kraken]

Who made the can it fit guide because the ROC-DS can fit in the C1?

[spare cloud]

There are credits

Watch the credits

[brittle kraken]

Yeah but like can I dm him or smthn? Because it doesnt exactly give an @

Ok nvm I found him

You can rest easy

[stiff vine]

The arm might've been at that weird angle when they spawned it and they just didn't notice. I forgot all about it when I pulled my roc the other day trying to load it and thought CIG changed something til I accidentally cycled mining mode and it fixed itself

[frosty sentinel]

Those places may be areas that are protected.

So land a distance away, run to the facility, be prepared to defend urself, and grab the package

[raw glen]

Anyone out there have a Lynx core Aqua to Trade or Sell ?
This discord needs an item swap channel

[spare cloud]

It's the #market-street . Ask there instead

!showchannels

[raw glen]

Thanks

[vital stratus]

anyone know how to attract sicuirty whiel in ships?

[vernal rock]

if I don't like the C2, what's my other option for cargo ship?

is caterpillar a good alternative?

[spare cloud]

It is

[visual night]

You could pick up an illegal salvage contract or multiple, then wait around the ship for them to show up. Security is always pretty random for me

[spare cloud]

It's gonna be great when cargo refactor comes in

In a future 3.23 patch

[visual night]

Caterpillar, Carrack, Reclaimer, 890J, Starfarer. In order of descending cargo size, skipping C2/M2.

Carrack is not functional (yet) to manually load big cargo, and Reclaimer is a pain but possible to manually load.

[vernal rock]

I am big drake fan so Im planning on getting caterpillar, but if theres a pirate would drake be able to maybe atleast tank my way out or fight back?

[visual night]

If the pirate has ballistics, Carrack or 890J probably has the highest odds of tanking before running. Caterpillar is a little bit weaker in my experience, but it has a really thin profile which can help dodge shots. You won't have good odds fighting back unless you get really lucky, ram them, or maybe if you have turret gunners

[chilly garden]

As a C2 daily driver the ram strat works 👀

[sage warren]

how much can you get from the 890j rescue mission?

[spare cloud]

Wrong channel ? Or do you expect to find cargo in this mission ? There isn't any

[sage warren]

oh really? someone told me that i can fill a big ship w the rmc, oh i guess they mean from salvaging it

[spare cloud]

Yeah, you can salvage it

But the ship is empty

[sage warren]

ah alright, sorry for wrong channel, and thanks for the help!

[muted sparrow]

how long is cooldown when trading rmc at NB?

like 10 minutes?, 20?

someone doing beryl run?

[rich skiff]

the timers are unknown and random .

we just know patterns

[muted sparrow]

what are the patterns then?

im tryna learn

[rich skiff]

Well a18 apparently has the best restock availability. But with the dupe expect rmc to be out of stock everywhere, usually refreshes in batches of ~250 scu. So once that is sold you’ll need to wait again.

[muted sparrow]

a18 is hell

and you cnt do the dupe there

ships get stowed before u get to trade consol

[muted sparrow]

right?

[rich skiff]

uh it doesnt neccsirly matter they can do the dupe there and sell it somewhere else its kinda jsut happening everywhere

[muted sparrow]

you cargo running?

[rich skiff]

i was before i lost everything lmao

[muted sparrow]

how so?

[rich skiff]

lost a couple mill to cargo grid bugs, falling out of elevator in quanntamn

[muted sparrow]

you know to sell 2x right?

[olive gull]

i know how that is, been there

[muted sparrow]

thats why i never max my capital

until ive got enough to cover if it goes to crap

[rich skiff]

yes but even then oyou still have to wait and its just simply not worth it for me to keep investing most of my money for a 2x reward but peaople have been duping for days so i expect a wipe sometime, but even with the double sell its just not worth doing nothing all day for the risk involved. Even if you have enough to "cover it up" ie dont go full investment then i tjust starts you back to square one which ive beenn at like 3 times this patch so yea, just gonna wait for change

[muted sparrow]

they shouldnt wipe it again

cig is getting what they deserve f8cking the missions up

AND doubling ship prices

feels like karma tbh

[rich skiff]

i mean everything is fucked up with the economy rn. I mean they may not wipe it after its fixed but that just leaves 100's of millions to be sent to our fav streamers which they cant stand

[muted sparrow]

too bad for them

at least people can give some around

and players can still get ships

[rich skiff]

yeah then the big streams stop playing because theres nothing to do so i guarntee the try to fix what they can before that happens

[muted sparrow]

thats still stupid, we need to help the average player have a chance to fly the ships and try the stuff

[plucky bolt]

why can't I sell this?

[rich skiff]

busted

[muted sparrow]

click on it

the left side

click on distilled spirit

drop down slider to sell

[plucky bolt]

I did

and nothing happens

[rich skiff]

next patch

[muted sparrow]

...

do you have to fly to the cargo deck??

i remembner something abnout this a while ago

go to like NB or something

[plucky bolt]

yes

[muted sparrow]

fly there

[plucky bolt]

but the sell slider doesn't appear

[muted sparrow]

then go back to main hangar and try again

or again, just go to another place

[plucky bolt]

I did that 3 times already ..

ah

the problem is

they keep storing my ship

and the docking collar doesn't open

[muted sparrow]

lolol

[plucky bolt]

i can't access it

[rich skiff]

shouldnt matter should still be able to sell with it stored its bugged

[plucky bolt]

this is so stupid

i have to fly to it from a pad

eva*

[marsh briar]

Oh I think you call a ship to a hangar first then without putting it away you call up your big ship into a large hangar? Is that the hull c?

[vital glen]

is there something going on with trading nothing is in stock

[olive gull]

stock is shared among all players form ALL servers, too many people wanting the same thing makes the stock to go away fast

try somewhere else, or something different

[vital glen]

i have no clue what else to do all i know is to use sc tools and its saying get titanium but there is none available anywhere

[near swallow]

A Hull C with spindle deployed and cargo on the grid can't fit in a hangar and would likely explode.

[olive gull]

titanium?? that's not too profitable, why dont you try with Larranite instead?

[muted sparrow]

lolol

no

[fossil pawn]

can someone give a few tips on what to trade? or how to know what to trade?

[vital glen]

but some guy in this server was saying that apparently there has been a dupe so all the high value commodities you cant even sell them as people are just duping them and filling demand instantly

[muted sparrow]

yep

[olive gull]

that's true, too many people

[muted sparrow]

cargo bug

[near swallow]

Maybe, once Pyro is in and they've worked through a few of the bugs that we'll find in the upcoming Freight Elevator update, they'll get around to working on Hull C and docking system bugs. Because I do see the Hull C as intended to be an intersystem transport rather then intrasystem.

[marsh briar]

You’re right

[olive gull]

try Laranite: https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Laranite

[vital glen]

so there is just no point in trying to trade atm?

[near swallow]

What I understand is that people can sell cargo twice, but then they have to reclaim their ship in order to be able to use it and get more cargo.

[near swallow]

Just don't do RMC.

And don't store your ship when buying/selling.

[olive gull]

nobody said that.

Beryl is also a good option

[muted sparrow]

yes it is

and no

one sec

[near swallow]

After having a weird issue with my rented Taurus vanishing and floating away when I drove a Nox onto the cargo elevator, I ended up using a rented Starfarer Gemini to transport some Beryl to Orison, and made a decent profit. (For a fuel ship, that ship can hold quite a bit of cargo.)

[vital glen]

oh no only because this dude was saying that the all the stuff worth selling would be duped

just going off of what he said

[near swallow]

While I own bigger ships, I don't have the funds yet to really fill them. :b

[muted sparrow]

kkkkkk

so

rmc trading is meta IN GENERAL

cargo dupe

simple

land ship, STORE ship, SELL cargo, SPAWN SHIP IN HANGAR, SELL IT AGAIN

thats it

[vital glen]

so all the rats are just spamming rmc

[muted sparrow]

its also the only way to actually empty cargo

[near swallow]

Anyone willing to dupe cargo is going to do RMC, because the supply is there and it has the most profit per load.

[muted sparrow]

uh huh

althopughj you could dupe anything rn

if you bought something else without profit

[near swallow]

You can buy and sell cargo without storing the ship, and it does not bug out the grid that way.

[muted sparrow]

you could make more money

ok sure, whatever

[near swallow]

NB might be an exception, ship might get auto-stored there.

[muted sparrow]

nope

nb is fine

esp cuz u can fly to onland access

land and go in directly

bypassing the tram

a18 auto stores ship

a18 sucks

[near swallow]

It's happened to me before, and I've heard of it happening in 3.23. That's after a hangar landing.

[muted sparrow]

it can happen to any landing platform thats busy

NB is fine cuz u can land, store, sell, spawn -> fly to the other entrance -> land sell

dont have to worry about it being stored

[near swallow]

Assuming you know where the ground entrance is, and know that you can still sell from your ship there.

[muted sparrow]

1. just scan, youll see everyone else near there
2. yes you can

[near swallow]

The fact that you can sell there doesn't mean that everyone knows that though.

[muted sparrow]

which is how we wanna keep it

SHHHHHH

[wooden kraken]

My bad if this has been a beat up question, but where do we get the cargo module for the Retaliator?

[near swallow]

May find that out tomorrow.

[hazy sigil]

Anyone know where I can sell quartz?

Everywhere I have been has no demand

[near swallow]

No demand would mean you normally can sell there but they're full up

[idle dune]

Rcm in area 18 has had no demand for ages now

[open surge]

People duping in A18. I'd sell elsewhere.

[idle dune]

Nevermind it just came back

[open surge]

I'm selling my salvage in Grim Hex because of that shit.

What do people buy at Rappel? I stole someone's C2 from there yesterday, but I'm not sure if the RMC he had on board came from there

[idle dune]

Yeah you buy RMC from rappel

[open surge]

Gotcha

Fuck that guy lmao. I had a blast selling his shit.

[muted sparrow]

more like f8ck you for stealing then selling his stuff?

like 8 mil -> 16mil you stole from him?

[reef grail]

Anyone else cant use the elevators on new babbage outside acess?? Theyre not working dor me

[muted sparrow]

who else is waiting for rmc to cooldown?

[muted sparrow]

its the server, theyv worked for me today

[serene yew]

looking at trading some slam. is that big of a risk with trading illegal product ?

[open surge]

Man hit my ship, left me stranded, and was likely taking that RMC to dupe in A18.

[muted sparrow]

*shrug, ok

also, why are ppl going to a18?, you can barely even do the dupe there

foolish people

[open surge]

Doesn't matter if he meant to. He did, so I found a ride out. The ride just happened to be his c2 full of rmc

He had plenty of warning, too, I was trying to talk to him in prox chat.

Idk why A18, either. I just see tons of c2s by the hangars

That one baffles me, too

On the bright side, no waiting for sales at nqa terminals

[muted sparrow]

?

nqa?

[open surge]

No Questions Asked

You take a hit if you're legitimately trading

But if you have no overhead

[muted sparrow]

i dont understand what you are talking about

like at pickers field or whatever?

[open surge]

Brio's, Grim

They buy just about anything

[muted sparrow]

yeah, but at like a low price

[open surge]

It's where you offload stolen goods

[muted sparrow]

sometimes lower price. right

[open surge]

Yeah, lower than retail usually

If you're not the one investing, it's all profit, tho

[muted sparrow]

if you like just pick it up or smthn

its just a shame cuz u cant do the dupe at those places

gotta store for it to work

[open surge]

I don't want to dupe, so it works out

[muted sparrow]

lol, i mean its literally storing the ship and selling. but sure

[desert echo]

Any commodity recommendations for a C1 hauler?

I just did gold and wondering if theres more profitable options

also safe

[muted sparrow]

cooldown reset!

lololool

[muted sparrow]

rmc

rush it until its patched

[desert echo]

oh sweet

ty ty

[muted sparrow]

other than that?, scroll up

medicine supplies

gold

smthin else

and all the illegal stuff

[desert echo]

ah I gotcha

Thanks for the tips!

[south plaza]

what are some good trade routes, I've been looking at sc trade tools, but finding a good circular route is hard

[novel hatch]

best place to sell salvage?

[south plaza]

Quite a few places takes cmat, all for about the same, any of the planet stations work for RMC, but demand is low

[muted sparrow]

lol, just told him

[full sapphire]

Is there still a bug where you cant store your ship with cargo or it will disappear?

[spare cloud]

There is

[full sapphire]

Oof

[south plaza]

The cargo still "exists" if I'm not mistaken, it just doesn't actually spawn the boxes

[brittle kraken]

Anyone had any luck even being able to get in the Hull C? Never docks at docking ports and calling in another ship before calling in the Hull C no longer seems to work.

Can't spawn it at A18, Lorville or NB (Although that was always a thing right?). And same docking issue with Orison

[open surge]

It's bugged to hell and back rn

[brittle kraken]

Yeah seems so :((. In 3.22 you could just about work around the bugs but i guess not anymore

[north oyster]

I'm starting to think that the only good thing about the Hull C was building hype and the basis of a pretty neat commercial

Maybe when 4.0 cones in they'll show it some love

[brittle kraken]

Yeah its a shame because we are in an era where nearly all the ships actually function well and this one is still completely broken. (How hard is it to fix the docking bug????)

[near swallow]

Nobody can know how hard it would be to fix, until after it is fixed. What I do know is that the easiest and most obvious errors should be caught by the compiler and never even get to even an internal debug build. The big question is how hard it is to reproduce in a debug environment. The easier it is to cause a bug, the easier it is to collect the data needed to try and fix it.

[onyx forge]

what is best website for cargo goods?

and routes?

[left ice]

So just bought cargo from Stanton Terra jump and it’s not in ship. So I got out of bay and tried to hail cargo and nothing. Should I have stayed in hanger

[delicate girder]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[delicate girder]

https://uexcorp.space/

https://www.gallog.co/

Take your pick. Did I miss any?

[delicate girder]

Did you haul cargo, store your ship, sell and then try to buy cargo again?

[left ice]

Nope came in empty. Stored ship, bought cargo, retrieved ship and nothing

[delicate girder]

There's a bug right now where SCU positions cannot be used again if a the ship is stored before selling. A claim of the ship is required to freshen up the cargo grid.

However, if you don't store the ship and sell from the un-stored ship you will be able to load the ship again.

[left ice]

Well I went back to admin at Terra and it’s on ship just not showing up in ship it looks like

[delicate girder]

One last thing. If you sell commodities from an un-stored ship, make sure you sell everything. If you don't you run a chance of losing the remainder of the cargo when you store the ship.

[delicate girder]

Yeah, that's another thing which can happen. I hear that you may even be able to sell that cargo multiple times in that scenario, but it's never happen for me.

[left ice]

Thanks fingers crossed I didn’t just lose a mil

[muted sparrow]

....

1. you can store a ship and sell as long as

2. you spawn the ship and sell it again

thats the cargo dupe bug

but to be clear, you can store the ship and have it work

sell [it] the cargo

[muted sparrow]

^

[muted sparrow]

^^

[tame cliff]

c2 have more scu than cat or is it the other way around?

[dull night]

its like at some point is it even worth abusing this bug with rmc or similair

[frosty sentinel]

List of most SCU carrying FLYABLE ships rn

1. Hull C
2. C2
3. Cat
4. M2
5. Carrack

[muted sparrow]

cooldown reset!

@sage warren

NB, Lorville

GH even, even Orison

not a18, you cant even do the dupe at a18

[sage warren]

bro im not even duping

i do panels, im just trying toselllllll

[tight burrow]

Is there a Best place to sell Beryl?
Or does it sell for the same anywhere?

[muted sparrow]

sell at orison or gh

beryl is also borked

[tight burrow]

Like Mork from Ork?

[muted sparrow]

no?

[tight burrow]

Probably before your time... lol

[sly mirage]

nanu nanu

[tight burrow]

Shaz-bott

[delicate girder]

Wasn't borked as of a few hours ago.

It seems the RMC party is over. RMC seems almost impossible to sell in any timely fashion now. I completely missed the boat on it.

[muted sparrow]

rmc party is still going, just at max capacity

you still can, just have to have some patience

if u duping, go to gh

dont have to wait as long

[sly mirage]

what's the wait time?

[muted sparrow]

20mins

give or take

[tame cliff]

can Hull C even land on ground? or its strictly for space cargo?

[near swallow]

Hull C could land on ground if the spindle was stored I think. But it can't do that with cargo.

I just encountered a new bug that cargo runners might want to be aware of: Storing your ship could result in it being destroyed, for no apparent reason.

[tight burrow]

Which Tram takes you to the Financial District in Lorville?

[rich skiff]

green route

[tight burrow]

That doesn't tell me anything. In Metro Center it's Red and Blue

Then there's the Metro to Spaceport

[rich skiff]

idk what to tell you breh its theres a green route and some other color dont take the other colored one idr the name

[tight burrow]

If there's a 3rd I ain't seen it... lol

[rich skiff]

its called the commerce line

takes you to thebig golden statues

[tight burrow]

Doesn't matter. I got of the Tram, it took off, I died 5000 meters below. Lost all my gear.

[rich skiff]

sound about right

[dull night]

that bug only happened to me on orison

[olive gull]

that happened to me aswell the other day

[near swallow]

When dying in armistice, the gear you had should be stored in the local inventory of wherever you respawn.

[tame cliff]

anyone here thinks drake cat is better than c2?

[tacit delta]

Hull C is strictly for space cargo

[tight burrow]

Of course when I FINALLY get within inches of getting my 1st dupe/exploit trading...
SC says NOPE, ain't gonna happen Hando.

[near swallow]

C2 has more cargo space. The Cat has dual tractor beams. The Cat also is supposed to be modular, the cargo doors are supposed to work as elevators, and the command pod is supposed to be able to undock. But these features are not working yet. The Cat however, as I understand it, is a lot cheaper then the C2 now, in game.

[zenith maple]

the cat is a ship that on paper is going to be really cool and interesting

sadly as with a lot of ships, its just not there yet, and the halfway ship we have is lacking a lot

[lament vessel]

Anyone know a work around for getting the cargo transfer failed error when trying to buy cargo. Trying to buy gold on SCD -1. Tried my cat and C2 and getting this error on both

[stiff vine]

Do you have anything on your cargo grid like a vehicle or scu container? Could also be sold out but it's not reflecting it properly. I've seen that before when trying to sell and the fix was to max out then go back a few ticks.

[lament vessel]

Dont have anything on the cargo grids and also no one inside my ship. Could be that its actually sold out and not reflecting on the terminal i guess

[zenith maple]

I really dislike the sold out/no request for goods mechanic. I understand its a way to limit abuse and make people move around and more. But its also super frustrating, the bigger goods hubs should both sell and accept most types of goods, just maybe not at the best price.

then being able to snab a limited request for X to a smaller location/moon/whatever is what should be the risk management for a bigger payout

[visual night]

It's definitely the rounding error if you're buying gold, like Beardwing said.

Example: The outpost only has 12.6 gold, but shows 13 on the screen. Selecting 13 to buy will always give an error.

Solution: select 12 SCUs and buy that, leaving 1 SCU behind

[stiff vine]

Hoping with Quantum and dynamic economy we won't have to worry about stock as much. Abuse can be controlled through demand systems instead. Some folks still enjoy the tedium of these support gameloops as a reason to just get out, enjoy the trip and see the sights. The profit is just an added incentive.

[fossil pawn]

what do to when it says rmc not in demand? ive been waiting at the terminal for a good half an hour...

[stiff vine]

You're competing with every shard on your server and everyone's duping cargo right now. Best you can do is pray you catch it during a commodity refresh

[fossil pawn]

damn alright

how do i catch these commodity refreshes, when do they happen?

[stiff vine]

I really don't know but in my experience it's been partial refreshes every 5 min and full at 15, but I could just be catching it at the right time. I've never had to wait any longer than that

[spare cloud]

Full restock depends on each location

But every terminal refreshes every five minutes or so, yeah

[stiff vine]

Only reason I ever caught on was selling stuff at Nuen in my Cutty. I'd check the terminal, run back to my ship to watch the skies and set a five minute alarm

Ended up ringing true for every location after that. You don't get many pirates out that way any more though, save a random player poi hopping outta boredom. They're chasing all the big hauls now 😆

[left ice]

Do space stations buy scrap?

Debating on loading up from NB to the station I’m going to just to make a buck

[reef peak]

Anyone who can help me get started with cargoing? I just started 2 days ago and made around 500k with bounty hunting and want to learn how cargo works and what is safe to do

[spare cloud]

See best buyers on !tradetools ⬇️

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[warm totem]

its real simple, go to place buy stuff go to different place sell stuff - don't get snared out of quantum, don't get shot getting back into your ship or shot down as you leave - or shot in the back of the head as soon as you get out of an armistice zone. Rinse and repeat. Always more fun to involve friends to run security, maybe actually pirate someone else and fill your C2 without having to pay 7mil +

[reef peak]

I guess I'll ask somewhere different

[left ice]

I’d like to add start by buying at space stations and then selling at cities. It allows you to store your ship each time and not have to worry about being shot in open

[spare cloud]

Ask a !guide if you want someone to show you the ropes, or read our !trading guide

[wary tusk]

Trading

Click [here](#🍼┃learn-to-play message) to learn the basics of Trading in Star Citizen.

The bigger the ship, the more you can haul!

[spare cloud]

!guide

[wary tusk]

Star Citizen's Player Guide System

Click the link above to request a player who can guide you through any gameplay aspect, including the Basics. Can also be used to find a buddy to play with!

Login required to access the page

[spare cloud]

Use sc-trade.tools or uexcorp.space to set routes

[reef peak]

thank you didn't know about the guide page

[fossil pawn]

i have a rented c2 with rmc in it, but the rent timer is about to run out, ive tried relogging, waiting at terminals, mt and area18. i guess i just got cig'd

im having no demand issues

[stiff vine]

You can try to dump it somewhere and hope it isn't purged by the time you get back

[fossil pawn]

dumping? im new to cargo, where do i do that?

[stiff vine]

I dunno, outside a poi you can get back to without it getting stolen but not far enough away that PES won't purge it. I really don't know how that works

[spare cloud]

Just go sell it at Orison, less crowded place to sell RMC

[restive pendant]

duper getting wrecked lol

[stiff vine]

I would hope it's designed to dump errant entities out in the wilderness but dude wants his "cup in the forest"

[restive pendant]

is it really, it took forever to sell some from salvage, can't imagine selling a full c2 worth, just agony

[spare cloud]

Should be at least, or sell at a discount at Grim HEX

[visual night]

A18 is popular but demand drops by a lot more each refresh, waiting 15-30 mins there you can sell a full C2. Orison only drops by max 400, so at busy times it's a guaranteed 2-4 refreshes before you can sell

[frail linden]

is it possible to do any trading with just a mustang alpha?

[spare cloud]

Yes, but with this little cargo (4 SCUs), only drugs can do a little money, and that'll only be 20k or so per trip

[frail linden]

and you can only get drugs by doing teh bunkers right?

[spare cloud]

No, you can buy them at drug labs like JumpTown

I guess Nuen Waste would be great for you, just buy a little SLAM and immediately go sell at Brio's just next to it, back and forth

[frail linden]

ok good to know ty bro

[visual night]

Watch out when landing over there. Both for players, and because an NPC Cutlass Black pirate likes to spawn since 3.23

[tame cliff]

I have a c2 from the invictus with default loadout and corsair with upgraded stuff, which should I use?

[spare cloud]

For what purpose ?

Trading ? Just use the C2

[tame cliff]

cargo

[spare cloud]

Corsair has ~9 times less cargo

[visual night]

If you can afford to fill it, the C2 holds over 9x the cargo of a Corsair on grid. The shields are beefy enough to tank a laser pirate long enough to get out of atmo and jump away.

If you're killing targets for their cargo and manually loading it, the Corsair can hold a decent amount off grid, and has more firepower. Will still struggle against faster fighters, so only useful if you're hunting larger ships

[tame cliff]

I don't like how C2 lands

trips very easy

[visual night]

It takes a while to get used to it in hangars, and can be temperamental around small rocks.

It's a masterclass in landing. Once you're good with it, every other ship feels tiny and easy to land.

[tame cliff]

I could easily land redeemer or corsair in de-couple but the c2 keeps tipping over

the landing was fine at first but them randomly it will just, swoosh

[visual night]

Can't nose up too far or else it swings down, can't nose down too far or you collide

I was having issues with rocks/obstacles not loading in, causing my C2 to roll completely over or get stuck nose up after leaving the seat

I also always land coupled, not decoupled. Doesn't have an issue with take off when you leave it on (in my experience)

[frail linden]

yo bro theres no slam for sale at that spot

[spare cloud]

Get widow or whatever's the most expensive

[desert crypt]

Do we know anything about 3.23.2...Persistent Hangers coming?

[muted sparrow]

soon™️

[desert crypt]

I thought it was Two Weeks

[muted sparrow]

thats what they want you to think

dont be a sheep in the system

have your eyes...