industrial-professions

[native hatch]

or you can look up the next best place to sell

[timid oyster]

it doesnt say no demand it says cannot sell

[native hatch]

if you have a stack of spirits, prolly gonna be rough selling all of it lol

[olive gull]

Construction Mats are sold at Admin offices on Stations or at Planetary Services on Cities

Recycled Mats are sold at the TDD offices

[timid oyster]

it doesnt let me sell it

[olive gull]

may be a bug, store your ship and re-start the game, then check your cargo is still there and try again selling it

[vestal ravine]

I have one also it's about the best trading ship. Along the lines of Spirits don't buy a lot of Medical Supplies you will have the same issue selling it off. The thing I like about Beryl can fill a C2, sort a expensive but not really, has a good payout. Gold is good also but getting more than 40 to 60 scu a real challenge unless you buy, bedlog in space, come back to a new region, buy again. But the heavy hitters are running RMC which is very expensive but has a nice payout yet the sites are risky with pirate activity.

[vapid ermine]

Gotcha, thank you!

[near swallow]

Where exactly are you trying to sell?

[shut elbow]

is commodity buying and selling working now? i saw a bunch of people buying commodities but not receiving them yesterday.

[tough wagon]

DO NOT STORE YOUR SHIP WITH CARGO IT WILL DESPAWN

[visual night]

It worked for me this morning, made 600k profit with two runs of Beryl+Agricum (2nd run had a lot less inventory)

[tough wagon]

lost a full MSR and Vulture do not store!!!

[visual night]

That wasn't just the invisible cargo glitch, it actually emptied?

[tough wagon]

Doesnt show up at seller so its gone

[visual night]

Damn that's rough

[tough wagon]

right.. been filling for a day with my vulture.. store it and my msr lastnight and get on today to sell and boy what a dissappointment

[tawny path]

having a hard time selling drugs at brios, its not recognizing my ship am I supposed to bring the drugs somewhere else?

[visual night]

Did you park close enough, and fully land? Use r_displayinfo 1 in the console to make sure the ship is at Brio's

[shut elbow]

what happened to the uexcorp.space site? it used to show buy and sell rates, and commodities all in one place. now everything looks different/less intuitive

[visual night]

You can use classic.uexcorp.space to get the old look back

[shut elbow]

good looking out, thanks

[full sapphire]

Anyone have issues loading the caterpillar? Did one run with it bought more for a second leg and when I got to my destination there a) isn’t anything on the grid, and b) the grid won’t even show up at the terminal.

[full sapphire]

Interestingly enough if I take my cat back to the buyer it shows the grid and it’s contents at the terminal but the ship itself is still empty

[native hatch]

Im trying to get cargo loaded onto my hull c but i dont see where to pick it up after i request it?

also not getting a voice message of any type when i request

[stark sun]

how long foes it take for demand to reset so i can sell

[brittle orchid]

same

i took asta from ryder and took it to terra gateway, then sold it and picked up med supplies, then went back to ryder and it said i still had the asta. so i went back to terra gateway and it said i still had the med supplies loaded. anyone know what i can do to fix this?

[balmy kelp]

is makers point commodity terminal bugged?

[wraith cairn]

Hi, last I played was 3.22, someome told me that cargo of ships was reduced recently(3.23?), was that BS or true?

[vestal ravine]

No, I had someone tell me the C2 was reduced by 200 scu but it was BS.

[wraith cairn]

Mm okay thx

[visual night]

This just happened to me. If the buyer thinks you have the old set, buy more on top and go somewhere new to sell. I sold RMC at A18, picked up more, and then sold double (or more?) at Orison. Now I have 7mil

[visual night]

They did significantly reduce ship inventory size, i.e. the virtual ship storage

[wraith cairn]

ahh, that must have been what they meant

[vestal ravine]

Yea I did hear something about that.

[brittle orchid]

oh? ill try that next time ty

[limpid sluice]

It was bugged in 3.22, probably might still be broken now

[visual night]

Yeah I actually checked it today myself, still can't select your ship. Says it has RMC to buy but no way to get it

[balmy kelp]

that and dunboro

so these tdd terminal refresh, do they refresh demand by server or all servers combined?

[visual night]

I think it's all servers per region. Across regions they're different

[balmy kelp]

and i swear yesterday, rmc was 15.4k. today, theyre no more that 14.4k. do they change like that? in 3.22 they were always the same price

[visual night]

I think the price was locked and had infinite demand before. Now there's actual demand limits and price can fluctuate. Although I didn't sell much of it in 3.22

[rustic thorn]

Honestly I feel like running cargo is going to do nothing but disappoint you when your shit either disappears or glitches out

I'm surprised you have to actually buy the cargo yourself instead of doing cargo missions where you're transferring somebody else's cargo

I lost a load worth a million yesterday due to my ship just disappearing while I spawned it. Basically took all of my willpower to do cargo away

[devout shell]

arg thats a hard hitting one....

the biggest container 8 scu (or are there bigger ones?) can only hold one item (shild moduel in example) at a time?

hm hm how much containers can fit in the A2 ? but how expansive then it is to transport stuff... one contaienr 16000 auec

[quaint lantern]

LOOKING TO TRADE WITH A SMALL CREW ILLIGAL AND CHIULL

DO A FEW ROUNDS

[spare cloud]

Ask in #looking-for-session instead

[fossil atlas]

i have 564 SCU of stim to sell and I'm at port tressler
so far i've been checking every 10-15 minutes and can only sell about 7 SCU at a time before the item goes back to no demand. is there a faster way for me to sell stims?

[stark sun]

check on uex or sc-trades which areas have high demand

[fossil atlas]

thank you

[coarse ember]

Price varies for demand/how much is currently there. If you can't sell you can wait 5-15 minutes for demand to go back up wherever you are usually

[covert thunder]

where is the terminal in Dunboro?

[visual night]

They reduced ship inventory, presumably in preparation for Inventory Management terminals. Those were probably going to allow moving items around, but they aren't enabled yet

[visual night]

Dunboro is supposedly glitched for buying anyway. Look for the two-ish story tent with a light on top. https://uexcorp.space/terminals/info/name/rust-commodity-shop-dunboro/

[mellow sapphire]

How is Hull C trading in 3.23? Still buggy?

[hollow sedge]

it is not fixed yes

you should go to rappel instead, i dont know about makers point and pickers field i havent been there yet

but lately ive seen alot of c2 parked at rappel

so maybe watch out? people are slowly aware of the current new meta

[visual night]

I checked Maker's, does not work. Picker's works

[hollow sedge]

i was at dunboro, theres a giant rock where the trader is, you can glitch through the entrance but it doesnt matter, the terminal doesnt recognize ships basically

[warm totem]

you shoudl be able to sell it all over at area18

https://uexcorp.space/commodities/info/name/distilled-spirits/tab/locations_buying/

[warm totem]

Also be careful at Dunboro and the derelict outposts altogether, besides the pirates -you can easily fall through the floor in a couple of the buildings and get stuck there. Option would be to have someone shoot you and tractor beam you out of the floor or just backspace - moral of the story is bring a friend...

[hollow sedge]

OH yeah that happened to me the first time i got there this patch :')

i was insane enough to go to the same spot again and i made the experience of YES, you will actively fall again, BUT if you spam space and jump your way outside you can survive the fall, it feels like survive the ocean while trying not to drown lmao

[quartz ledge]

So far my main money making came from bounties, any tips - what to buy, where to sell, any useful websites for trade routes etc. - for completely green guy like me that wants to dip into cargo hauling? (with Connie Andromeda)

[olive gull]

something with more cargo will be better suit for Cargo trading, like a Hercules or a Taurus, the later handles quite well on this patch

use !tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[quartz ledge]

Obviously, but for now biggest ships with cargo space I have are either Connie or Cosair

[olive gull]

Andromeda then

currently the Recycled Mats are the ones with the most profit margin

or if you wanna go a more safe route, do Beryl trading

[quartz ledge]

Is using circular routes option from SC Trade Tool smart move?

[olive gull]

yeah, why not?

[rustic thorn]

Hey any of you guys know how often station inventories get reset so I can sell again?

[spare cloud]

Terminals refresh about every 5 minutes. But it takes multiple terminal refresh for a full stock reset, depending on the commodities and location

[rustic thorn]

Was selling Degnous Root. Looks like each station fills up at 500 scu.

Guess I should just cap my load to below 500 and keep going to different stations

Was just trying out a trade route that doesn't require me to land on a planet (that is solely stationed based). So I can do it well relaxing instead of worrying about getting popped at an outpost

[spare cloud]

Space trading kinda lame atm

With only the Hull C that's focused on it, it's not getting much love

[rustic thorn]

Yeah well I've got to c2 so might as well use it since I don't have a reclaimer

[glass laurel]

are RMC and beryl still the best cargo to trade?

[warm totem]

basically yeah but everybody is doing it, pirates have taken note

bring security, prepare to wait to sell - so far we have also had bugs where teh C2 cannot load more than a half a full load but terminal says full

[spare cloud]

Pirates ?? Noooo don't worry

[warm totem]

lol

[spare cloud]

I'm not here

[warm totem]

just a warning to those people who may be solo flying the C2 on a RMC run

If your happy with smaller but safer payouts have a look at https://uexcorp.space/ makes it pretty simple to check buy/sell locations with respect to avg stock - so your not stuck with selling 10scu at a time someplace, lol

[rustic thorn]

I noticed with both my c1 and Corsair. That once I loaded cargo into it and sold it it was still registering as those slots full. So I would have to reclaim my ship to start over

Not sure if you tried that with the c2 but it may solve the problem

[olive gull]

yes, that's a known bug, we hope it gets fixed on 3.23.1

[hollow sedge]

anyone else at arccorp hitting "no demand" on the TDD for RMC

[olive gull]

that happens often, you can either wait for the demand to rise up again or go to Orison to sell

[potent cosmos]

Did they move the scrap terminals at dunboro?

[spare cloud]

No, you gotta clip through a huge rock or something

For some reason, the terminals are hidden behind that now

[potent cosmos]

Ooof

What's the next best place to get rmc?

Pickers?

Rappel?

[olive gull]

both

[potent cosmos]

Cool

Anywhere else in microtech or nah?

[spare cloud]

Nope

Dunboro is the only place on mT

[potent cosmos]

Bah ok

[wooden kraken]

Anyone know why a package you’re delivery is all of a sudden unliftable? Or a work around for the box ghosting out. It’s the last package of a five box drop.

[olive gull]

not even with the tractor beam?

[wooden kraken]

I can with the multitool but the machine won’t accept it that way. I have to be able to place it in there.

I tried

[olive gull]

so.. the F and menu to carry it wont show?

tried picking it having the inventory open?

[wooden kraken]

It shows, I press the F to carry and nothing

Can’t be placed in inventory, no. Just tried.

[olive gull]

try carry something else like a bottle, then drop it and try the box

[wooden kraken]

I can still lift other boxes, but I think this one is bugged all of a sudden

Everything else works fine. It’s just this one dumb box

[olive gull]

yeah... may have to abandon..

[wooden kraken]

Hard to get REP up when most of the missions are bugged one way or another. lol. Thanks for the help

Omg, got it to work. Had to rotate the package with the mulitool until the package turned green. It only goes in one way. lol

[olive gull]

well, thats a usefull piece of info

[gleaming cradle]

I have a M2 any good routes?

[hollow sedge]

you get to sell that cargo twice, you have to go somewhere else that buys it (salvage yard)

[vapid ermine]

has anyone had issues with ghost cargo? Ill sell all of my cargo, go to buy new stock, but it says something is still there and I can't buy more'

[somber bay]

I got that in my vulture

Idk how to solve

[void agate]

just try selling at a different tdd I went from area 18 to new bab and landed outside went back to get more cargo and was good

[vapid ermine]

i asked gen chat, has to do w storing it

dont store your ship w cargo apparently

[void agate]

my ship has been getting auto stored at area 18 when i get onto the tram hard for me not to xD

[olive gull]

there is an option in the setting for Auto landing, and another one saying something about proximity... cant remember, but both gotta be off

[void agate]

dang okay thanks for letting me know do you know if those were key binds or just game settings

[hollow sedge]

yes

same

[void agate]

I've been landing outside commons bc of this lol

[hollow sedge]

ghost cargo sucks yeah, only thing you could do rly is do cargo trading with multiple ships or fly up to a spaceport with a different ship and claim the cargo ship there

[void agate]

yeah having to go back and forth or claiming is just really inconvenient. I'd just like to sell my cargo and go back to buy more.

[near swallow]

Haven't tested this lately, but the cargo issue only seemed to affect cargo on the grid in EPTU.

[coarse ember]

y

[void scarab]

200k of cargo gone. Bought it and nothing appeared on my ship

Great game

[hollow sedge]

What's the best way to transport ship parts now

[steel glade]

are there known issues with commodity terminals at makers point?

I know there are rocks at the dunboro ones you have to clip through, wanted to buy some RMCO but makers point wouldnt recognize my ship inventory at all.

[limpid sluice]

theres a bug for invisible cargo, you may not see it phsyically, but it should show in terminals

[errant bane]

Yeah it happened to me too, there was nothing on my ship but i was able to sell

[near swallow]

Seems to me there were problems with Maker's Point even before 3.23.

[glass trail]

whats a good trade route rn

[delicate girder]

RMC or Beryl I'd say. The only problem now is that you have to claim your ship after every run because of phantom cargo issues.

[raven hatch]

Ok. So. The game just crashed as I was heading back to my ship after buying all the copper I could afford (part of a trade loop). I boot the game back up and it's saying I need to claim my ship because its status is "unknown" Did I just lose all my cargo? (also, is this the wrong place to put this?)

[proud pumice]

Haven't seen anyone mention it, but I keep getting the oh so fun bug where every time I store a ship, any time I have guns on the gun racks, or cargo on my grid, or even store all boxes locked to the grid, any time I store the ship they all go "poof". Anyone know a fix or is this just a known thing I missed people talking about?

[raven hatch]

Looks like replication layer saved my bacon.

[nova plank]

Known bug unfortunately.

[proud pumice]

Darn. I figured. Any fix it workaround you've heard of by chance? I lost a large reclaimer load bc, that's how I found out

[nova plank]

When you store the cargo should still be there to sell. But stuff in gun racks and what not.. Probably not recoverable.

[proud pumice]

Luckily the stuff in the store all containers was bunker junk. Any of the NICE stuff I had out directly in the ship and then into the local when I landed. I'm having a God aweful time with any lot containers not showing loot or not letting me move it anywhere

[near swallow]

For buyable SCU boxes, a workaround would be to move the boxes to local inventory before storing the ship. However the SCU boxes themselves are buggy and it can become impossible to put items in/take items out of them. Also, boxes not on the cargo grid may not be affected by the vanishing cargo bug. (At least that's how it worked in EPTU testing.)

[proud pumice]

Once those boxes were locked to my grid I wasn't able to place them back in local inventory, even when they were empty. I just had to eat the loss each time.

I'll try the off grid test next time I can get on

And yeah, I did have the issue with stuff I couldn't add or take out stuff

[wide adder]

What's your IGN?

[gray marsh]

They didnt work for me either

[gray marsh]

they game just ate 2mil of my cargo 💀

nvm it was just invisible

[void scarab]

Trigger115

[void scarab]

Nah mine was gone. It showed on the terminal on the planet I bought it but didnt show on any other planet that was buying it. Cargo grid was empty and weirdly enough other cargo I had bought from like 20 runs ago started showing on the terminal but still couldnt sell that either

[limpid dove]

where does CMAT sell the most for currently?

[vapid ermine]

Whats the best ship I could rent for cargo rn?

[vapid ermine]

You can avoid this by not storing the ship when you sell, no cargo issues will occur

[spare cloud]

Andromeda

[wide adder]

There ya go 😉

[void scarab]

Oh shit thank you man. I was actually so ready to quit

Legend

❤️

[boreal marten]

im not able to put items in self storage containers for some reason whether from inventoy or ground, any advice?

[limpid sluice]

Also had this issue, haven't found a work-around

[near swallow]

If you look, the container's inventory size will probably have an infinity symbol. It's a new bug in 3.23. Need to wait for them to fix it.

[olive gull]

yeah me neither, bugged as fuck, the containers even magically disappear from my ship's cargo grid, with everything i had inside them 😭

[delicate girder]

How do you do that when selling at Orison? I haven't seen pads there.

Plus pad rams can be pretty expensive.

[limpid sluice]

Land in a hangar as usual, just dont store the ship

[delicate girder]

I thought that would make the ship too far away in the case of Orison. Hmmmm

[limpid sluice]

Nope, works fine. Been doing it with my vulture

[olive gull]

dont they impound your ship after a few time?

[fierce cobalt]

Anyone know the website to use for cargo selling

[limpid sluice]

If they do, its after a long time, i made it to TDD and back without issue

[olive gull]

its !tradingtools

[wary tusk]

Trading

Click [here](#learn-to-play👶old message) to learn the basics of Trading in Star Citizen.

The bigger the ship, the more you can haul!

[olive gull]

wait, that did not gave the correct link.. its !tradetools my bad 😋

here: https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes

[fierce cobalt]

Thank you!

[delicate girder]

or https://uexcorp.space/

or https://www.gallog.co/ though I'm not sure if it's up-to-date

[near swallow]

I've had a ship get auto-stored before, but that may have been NB rather then Orison.

[limpid sluice]

Maybe possible if the area is busy enough?

[molten bobcat]

Do I have to destroy an abandoned ship to yoink the cargo?

[visual night]

You can shoot a door open, get to pilot chair and open all doors. If it's a reclaimer, you may as well just crack it because they're a pain

[molten bobcat]

Yeah but I was in the back of this freelancer max and I couldn't grab the cargo boxes

like, my tractor beam didn't work onm them?

[visual night]

Did the beam look like it was attaching/detaching rapidly? Sometimes you can yank them up and get them free

If it didn't work at all, could be ghost cargo and not actually there. Cracking it would tell you if they're real boxes but can destroy some

[bleak forum]

Anyone have any first hand experience with the MSR?

For context, I own a Corsair, but since the new master mode updates, I swear the ships combat capabilities with the stock weapons are terrible (in the weapons mode). I have laser repeaters and they have like 8 shots each.

I feel like I suck at combat and I like the idea of the MSR, could anyone testify about it?

[open surge]

Corsair has better combat capabilities. Haven't used the MSR in a few years, but I remember it being pretty underwhelming if you ever end up in combat. It's benefit is that (or used to be) it's one of the fastest ships in a straight line. Not sure if this is still the case, but it handles really well for a ship of its class.

The stock weapons on the Corsair are pretty close to meta right now, though a lot of people are running Omniskys instead of MXA

Those 8 shots, or 12 with power to weapons are enough to pop a ton of ships in one go, and I'm running ERTs with my corsair

[deep field]

how do u calculate good cargo routes that will have inventory? so u dont have to wait or bounce around to buy/sell?

[visual night]

I've still preferred ballistics, even if I have to restock after 1 or 2 ERTs.

4x AD5Bs, 2x AD4Bs
or
4x AD5Bs, 2x M#A (pve) or 2x Omni (pvp/pve)

890J can tank so much laser damage, so I lean toward ballistic to keep ttk fast

[olive gull]

ADBs are under-performing on this patch, even other brand gatlings perform better

i also like Balistics, and i run full Deadbolts on the Corsair

https://www.erkul.games/loadout/6RAzH9TG

[visual night]

Have you tried AD5Bs yourself? erkul still shows them as higher DPS than Revenant

[thick sage]

How much does it take for a material to get in demand?

[olive gull]

yes i did

now im trying the Deadbolts, so far so good, not much diff in the DPS

missing the BRRRRRRRRR....

[visual night]

Yeah I almost went Deadbolts for the S4 slot, but I just kept it gatlings all around

I adjusted my convergence distance and I don't ever have a problem with the ballistic speed. Just have to give a little lead occasionally

[bleak forum]

Thank you all for the replies! I didn’t realize the lasers packed so much of a punch stock, I’m used to there being a lot of laser bolts that go pew pew over time, I guess I’ll need to just fiddle more

[visual night]

Power management helps too. If you have a good angle/speed avoiding turret fire, full weapons power will give you more shots. Doesn't help the recharge a ton, so after unloading you can switch back to shields and maneuver for another laser run

[molten bobcat]

Wasn't hilighting the boxes or anything, just said weight limit exceeded. I blew the ship up and there was a few boxes that I could then pick up but idk

[bleak forum]

I came from elite dangerous years ago, I gotta get back into the habit of managing power allocation

[visual night]

Ballistics simplifies it a little more, but then you have to restock. Trade-offs!

[deep field]

is that UEX site accurate with the stock inventory ? is it instant or is the time to right the last time it was updated?

[visual night]

It's most or all user-submitted, ymmv but fairly accurate

[olive gull]

im not sure where UEX takes its data, but TradeTools feeds from a little app ran by players themselves, so its accurate enough, no its not instant

[deep field]

ok and u wanna always sell to places with lower inventory right, like 5/1000scu for ex

[olive gull]

you want to sell to places with high demand and high price

[deep field]

how do u see the demand on both websites? and how would u see if the place ur wanting to buy at has enuf in stock?

[olive gull]

cant see the actual stock but you can check this options so it shows only the places where should be enough stock

[deep field]

ok ty

[olive gull]

it does shows the stock, its just quite dim

[deep field]

i see i just understood u want both of those numbers to be high, in order to be able to buy and sell without issue

is it best to use both websites to check stock? or is one better than the other?

and thanks again for the help, shit had me confused

[olive gull]

i use them both and often choose the place they both agree on xD

TIP: Laranite is on the rise

[deep field]

got chu a

gotcha* ty

[warm totem]

Ran into a similar problem, when I went to sell on a moon at a location the grid showed empty -flew to area18 and the cargo (still invisible) was recognised and I was able to sell. SO theres that...

My issue occurred in a C2 with medical supplies

[olive gull]

nice info, thanks for sharing

[deep field]

ive had this issue before had to claim my ship to fix it

in my case i had cargo i never had and nothing would take it but the terminals showed i had it

[olive gull]

the workaround seems not to store the ship, land normally in the hangar and instead of using the terminal to store the ship, run fast to the TDD

[deep field]

interesting ok ill try it next time it hapoens ty

[vapid ermine]

Just don't store it, hope it stays in the hangar long enough to sell

is there a place I can see ship scu cargo info?

[steel glade]

https://scdata.io/ship-cargo-capacity/

[vapid ermine]

ty

is that accurate? I use c2 and my cargo is 696 not 624

[steel glade]

its pretty close

[olive gull]

this place has a lot more info and is constantly updated from Datamined info https://www.spviewer.eu/items?item=VehicleList

[vapid ermine]

tyty

[sturdy leaf]

looking to make some money with my c1, im pretty much broke

[olive gull]

#looking-for-session ⬅️

[delicate girder]

Does parking outside the commons @ NB to sell cargo still work?

[olive gull]

untested, try and tell us

[visual night]

I found these on Reddit and it's helpful for me. Remove the space, it's a tall image don't wanna embed

https:// i.ibb.co/dtGbTky/sc-ships-cargo-322.jpg

[delicate girder]

Yes, 696 is right.

C2 MFD image looks like an Ogre with a woodie.

[void scarab]

Fuck this game. It just done it again. 90k worth of scrap bought at area18, go to sell it at a scrap yard and my ship is empty

[lost bluff]

whats orison and arc corp beryl cap

[deep field]

u hinted at laranite being worth running , right?

[olive gull]

yes, better than Beryl atm, specially when you are starting

[delicate girder]

Not in as great qtys though right?

[deep field]

sc tools showing it has no stock at sell points tho

[void scarab]

And now I go back to area18 and it shows the cargo is full tffffff. Cant even sell it back though

[spare cloud]

Check pinned messages

[olive gull]

no no, both Beryl and Laranite are in the 'Safe' routes, for big money u gotta go for RMC

[errant bane]

I have 2scu of beryl on my tauros that dont wanna disappear, and i'm able to sell it endlessly. Thats concerning on a exploit perspective

[deep field]

so how wud i get a good route for either of those using the tools, it makes sense for berly but for laranite it seems like no place will buy enuf according to SC tools?

[olive gull]

it is now late for you, you gotta re-claim the ship, and then after you get the first load and go to the selling place, do not store your ship, land as usual but dont touch the terminal to store ships, just run you ass of to the TDD and sell

[delicate girder]

Done ten million in hauling.

[earnest lion]

Where can I sell Recycled Material Composite at Lorville?

I've tried Admin but it says I can't sell it there

[spare cloud]

Only CM can be sold in admins

RMC is sold in TDDs

In Lorville it's in the central business district

[earnest lion]

I see, ty

[hollow sedge]

I'm unable to sell RMC in Lorville admin.. is this a bug?

[olive gull]

go to the TDD

[nova plank]

Yeah RMC can only be sold at a TDD, which means you have to take the tram to it.

If it still works

[hollow sedge]

Thanks... no demand again

[nova plank]

switch servers

[vapid ermine]

Trying to sell RMC, Lorville has no demand, ik A18 does, but is there a way to sell it before my ship stores so I dont have to claim it

[south badge]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[south badge]

I enjoy the idea of doing cargo trading and such. Space trucker style. I'm brand new tho and have no idea how (plus I only have an aurora), any suggestions for a newbie? This guide side looks good but complicated

[naive bane]

haven't really played in a while, is trading a decent way to make money yet? I have a Freelancer if it matters

[stark sun]

i think after salvage nerf cargo is best money making

but you need alot upfront + its more risk

[naive bane]

just started so at 30k, I guess I'll have to work my way up slowly then

[olive gull]

your guess is correct

patch wiped all of us, so we are the same

[naive bane]

Yea, I'm fine with a grind! Did the same in Elite. Though some bugs I just had make it a little demotivating.

[short oriole]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[vestal ravine]

You can rent a basic cargo ship until you build up your cash.

[brittle orchid]

how does one avoid the cargo bug where it shows that u have cargo despite not having any?

[hidden warren]

insurance fraud

only way ive been able to fix it

[mental karma]

Yeah grind isn’t that bad in SC yet, but the bugs are driving someone crazy especially early when u don’t know why they happen and what to do about them

[hidden warren]

which is garbage cause depending on what you are running you are potentially reshipping every run, or few runs

[naive bane]

Is that cargo bug new from .23? If so, gives me a little hope it will get fixed soon. Or maybe that's just copium.

[brittle orchid]

is it better to not run circular routes then?

seems like circular routes lend themselves more to the bug

[hidden warren]

The bug occurs for me after I sell so I dont think it matters what route I run

Whatever space that was taken up by whatever I just sold doesnt empty in the goods terminal when i try to buy something else

[near swallow]

Claiming the ship should fix that, I've heard

[brittle orchid]

btw where do i land at makers point to be able to buy directly to my ship?

[near swallow]

I've heard Maker's Point can be buggy

[brittle orchid]

apparently lmao

[wintry bronze]

It stopped doing it for me when I stopped storing my ship, just left it in the hanger when I went to sell. If you want to store it wait till you have sold everything first

[hidden warren]

Huh, interesting, ill have to give it a try, thanks.

[hard hedge]

can we still buy RMC at Dunboro MT?

[brittle orchid]

how long does it take for tdds to refresh/lower stock?

[left obsidian]

so im in a18 and i see tons of C2s parked there, is there a ground entrance im not aware of?

[half solstice]

are outpost trade terminals not working again or is this isolated

[spare cloud]

If you can reach the terminals, and that they detect your ship

[half solstice]

i was at dunboro earlier had the issue that there was nothing to press at all lmao

[coarse ember]

issue i've been having with dunboro is falling through the planet lmao

[half solstice]

at least i only fell through a building xd

[quaint lantern]

A

[spare cloud]

B

/j don't continue

[steel glade]

can you salvage the abandoned c2's for RMCO without getting crimestat?

[high rain]

If you steal RCM from a player after they bought it (not salvaged), does it act as stolen or no?

[azure pasture]

wheres best to buy cargo for my andromeda?

dunboro isnt working

[limpid sluice]

I'm assuming by cargo, you mean RMC?

[azure pasture]

yh

[limpid sluice]

Pickers Field probably

[azure pasture]

and sell at area 18?

[limpid sluice]

You can, yeah

[half solstice]

im just doing beryl trading atm doesnt make as much but feels safer lmao

[elder summit]

Are there any missions at the DCs yet? I went to one and didn’t see anything but they’re huge so maybe super easy to miss

[half solstice]

ive had investigation missions bring me there

[elder summit]

I’ve legit never done one of those. Maybe I should lol

[half solstice]

but i checked out one of them to see if there was anything to buy at the terminals but its broken/doesnt work yet

its aite i think

[elder summit]

Yeah that’s kinda what I did too but I saw someone say something about a mission but they may have been referring to something else

[half solstice]

one paid me like 20k to go in and find a guy passed out in the sewers or sum shi

but the guards were shooting at me lmao

[elder summit]

lol guards have been aggro so far

[half solstice]

i just hippity hopped the fuk outta there without shooting

[elder summit]

I saw someone gunned down in area 18 at riker lol

At a ship terminal lol

[half solstice]

npcs seem to be tweaking now

went to orison to sell and everybody was just cowering lmao

[near swallow]

Distribution Centers do have some unlawful missions, and there might be delivery missions to them, haven't checked for those.

[elder summit]

Oh good to know.. unlawful pays so much better lol

[elder summit]

Yeah they went from all standing on the tables to all cowering lol

[flint thistle]

I picked up the ship's parts while bouncing, where can I sell them？

[half solstice]

you mean loose ship parts like guns etc?

[flint thistle]

Ship parts, for example, cooler engines

I can't sell it at Orison

Where can I go to sell it?

[tacit delta]

You sell it on ship parts store, not on tdd or whatever

[visual night]

Cousin Crow's on Providence Platform should buy them

[half solstice]

its not really worth it to pick them up i think a lot of work for not much extra creds

unless they changed the prices

[flint thistle]

All right. Thank you

[half solstice]

[tacit delta]

they're huge, don't fit snugly, have weird physics, and sell for cheap
The only time I collected those was the first time

[half solstice]

same

i remember picking up missiles

hoping they wont collide and blow up or something lmao

[limpid sluice]

Me with A2 bombs

[half solstice]

me with reclaimer recently

[visual night]

I always wanted to load up a C2 with 4 or 6 from A2s. Just need a crew mate responsible for dropping ordinance out the back...and a server that behaves nicely

[limpid sluice]

A2 bombs don't arm unless dropped from the A2. You can tractor them after they're dropped, but for obvious reasons, this would be very dangerous to store inside a ship, lest any sudden movements make big badda-boom

[visual night]

Good to know, wasn't sure if they exploded given enough fall distance/damage. If only they could be manually armed

[raven hatch]

Is SC trader still inaccurate for med supplies? 4 separate places had no interest in buying them.
Adjacently, does anyone know a good place to sell med supplies? I'm sitting on 200k worth and don't know where to go.

[void scarab]

none of those online things are very good

[raven hatch]

SC trader used to be quite good. Did the new update change that?

[limpid sluice]

They rely on users to provide the data, so its all rough, depending on how much people are contributing

[raven hatch]

Makes sense that the data is outdated then. Anyone know somewhere that wants medical then?

[half solstice]

im selling the same things to the various L1 stations but for 200k worth i guess goodluck

[raven hatch]

I know 200k ain't much, but I'm not able to absorb that loss yet. I'd be ok with coming out even.

[half solstice]

nah not about not much

its about too much

i sold at mic l1 and they only took 40k worth or something before falling into no demand

i bought about 100kish from crusader to bring to microtech as an experimental route but i also relied on trade tools who said shubin takes medical tools

[raven hatch]

Damn.

[half solstice]

and they dont so now im looking at the lagrange stations to sell

so far dropped about half my load already

but 2 or 3 stations

[raven hatch]

Borked up then.

[half solstice]

i suppose but

people aint gonna be doing non moneymaking routes so the info wont be as up to date i guess

[raven hatch]

Soon as I get the credits back it's back to more common trades.

[half solstice]

i just do beryl lol

[raven hatch]

Thanks much for the input.

[raven hatch]

Fair. It's a fairly safe commodity

What do you fly?

[half solstice]

beryl from micro to hurston then from hurston i bring scrap to hur l5 before flying back to micro

c2 atm

[raven hatch]

A solid loop

[half solstice]

its a safe 400ish k (now it is) every 40ish min

[raven hatch]

Gotcha. I snagged an M2 when some friends and I were playing around with tanks and have been using that since.

[half solstice]

i was thinknig of rmc but i remember tryign to offload my reclaimer and it was a pain with tdd stations

and the spot on microtech is bugged or whatever doesnt work atm

so i just chose the next best thing lol

[raven hatch]

I left before rmc was a thing and only just got back. What makes it different?

[half solstice]

you can get rmc 2 ways

1 by salvaging with vulture/reclaimer scraping

1 by buying at scrapyards

i cant remember but the last time i sold rmc a few days ago 1 scu was 14k? or more

trade tools show 21k but i dont want to say that lol

but its got a high profit margin now for trading

+100% basically

[raven hatch]

Huh.

[half solstice]

but if im not wrong its very contested with pirates in some servers

[raven hatch]

Ah. That makes more sense. And it's a pain because the terminals don't work?

[half solstice]

well it seems so

[raven hatch]

Huh

[half solstice]

i tried once or twice and gave up

buying at least

its quite hot commodity so ithink the servers are filled with rmc lol its hard to get rid of it also iirc

[raven hatch]

Well, I'll have to give it a try once I have any capital. That 200k was all I had.

[half solstice]

which ship you fliny

flying

[raven hatch]

*and once it levels out

A repurposed M2. Was playing with tanks with friends for a while.

I also have a Carrack but the M2 is better.

[vernal rock]

I have only about 60k, what route should I do the trading?

[half solstice]

the route im doing is relatively safe

its beryl shuttling

its like a 25% margin

but as usual dont dump it all into your cargo coz if you lose it then rip lol

anyway this is how im getting rid of it lmfao

[half solstice]

https://uexcorp.space/trade/routes?code=44c92855

this is the one im following now but i do other stuff between orison and microtech as well

its safe as well lol

[vestal oak]

Not for long, my 5 mantis crew are in their way

[half solstice]

gl

in and out 3mins babyy

[half solstice]

nothing new there as well

any hull-c owners

[sullen rain]

Is anyone else having issues with commodity terminals not updating active inventory levels? This terminal has said there are 46 SCU of gold for days now

[hollow sedge]

What's the intel on the SCM TUR mode that snuck into ilw argo-t?

[somber stone]

Hello community! Can somebody tell me the "total" cargohold volume of argo SRV? the total amount of SKU crammable into the hold.

[earnest pike]

what’s the best thing to haul that isn’t from a no armistice zone besides gold

[spare cloud]

!erkul ⬇️

[wary tusk]

#DPSCalculator

• Calculator • Shops • Ships • Weapons •

[spare cloud]

Beryl

[earnest pike]

alr

[sullen rain]

GL finding any of either rn though

[somber stone]

Thank you, but these are "official numbers" and fixable cargo grid. I want to know total usable cargohold volume - fixable cargo grid + all the loose boxes crammed into cargohold to the roof.

[spare cloud]

SRV can't really do that. Entrance is very limited, and interior is extremely minimal, with already close to no space how it is

Cargo hold won't hold more than what the grid says, and putting anything inside the hab area will be an immense pain

[somber stone]

so it's not like the vulture or constellation, where you can cram like double the volume?

[spare cloud]

Yeah

[somber stone]

sad noise

ty

[spare cloud]

Most ARGO ships use their interior space very efficiently(or not) and everything is packed already in those ships

[olive gull]

the pulse may fit tru the SRV elevator to the inside... i gotta try xD

[spare cloud]

I think it will

But Argo elevators are just a damn pain

[olive gull]

they are indeed

[somber stone]

question 2: anybody knows if it is possible to store raw ore balloons of prospector/mole in other ship's cargo hold, to sell/send ore to processing from the cargo ship?

[spare cloud]

Nope. Well, you'll be able to sell the bags themselves to shops that sell bags. But you'll be selling the bags, not what they hold

Refineries will only buy from mining ships for now

Mole and prosp are supposed to have multiple sets of bags, and to detach them once they're full to throw them in a cargo ship

So eventually, that'll be a thing

[brittle orchid]

I know that different hub cities "use" materials at different rates, so would it be reasonable to assume that the ones with larger inventories for a given material would have a faster rate that they clear that inventory out?

for example, lorville only has the capacity for 4k SCU of rmc. so I would assume that means the overall demand there is just lower

[somber stone]

Anyone knows when cargo elevators were planned for live release?

was looking forward to tetris ^^

[olive gull]

nope

[brittle orchid]

doubt it will be for a bit, seems like they might try to balance out the efficiency of making money with cargo by slowing down how long it takes to do via being forced to take the tram to sell

[half solstice]

dunboro really seems to be dead lmao

[charred sable]

guys im new here i just want to make some money is there a product i can buy and sell when im new starting whats the easiet i only got 30k

[sinful flicker]

I’m also new here, a follow up to that question would be the location for shady narcotic trade?

Is it still profitable if I’m using something like a c2?

[charred sable]

@sinful flicker so wont that will be illegal

[sinful flicker]

That would be somewhat around the grey area I guess?

I haven’t played the game for a year

And there seems to be major updates

[spare cloud]

It's not worth trading drugs with anything that has more than 120 SCUs of cargo.

[limpid sluice]

Only illegal if you get scanned by security

[spare cloud]

Drug is low volume, you'll have to wait very long to fill a C2 with drugs

[sinful flicker]

Wouldn’t that be dangerous?

I mean in pu

[spare cloud]

It makes good money, but don't need a big ship

Yeah it is. Not as dangerous as RMC trading TBH

[sinful flicker]

And what exactly does RMC stand for?

[limpid sluice]

Recycled Material Composite

[sinful flicker]

Where do you get these stuff?

[olive gull]

Salvage of ships, Scrapping them

[sinful flicker]

Oh I see

[olive gull]

can be also buy or sell at some posts

[sinful flicker]

And what posts exactly?

[olive gull]

https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Recycled Material Composite

[sinful flicker]

Ah

I see them mostly in Hurston

[olive gull]

some of those posts are quite dangerous

[sinful flicker]

Such as?

[olive gull]

other players

[sinful flicker]

I am Genuinely concerned

[near swallow]

RMC was the top of the line for commodity trading, biggest payout, but also biggest investment. That means it's also well known to pirates/griefers, and there are only like 3 spots to buy it. All without armistice. So RMC trading is risky. For big ships, IMHO the next step down is Beryl, which is available in large quantities, relatively safe, cheaper to get into, but also has a lot less payout.

I do not know for sure how 3.23 pricing changes may have affected things.

[olive gull]

no pirates, just assholes, they dont kill you for your cargo, there is no pirating

RMC trading is still the top

[sinful flicker]

So griefers and trolls in general

[near swallow]

There are actual pirates in the game, though I have not encountered them myself. (But I also don't do much RMC trading nor did I take Reclaimers full of boxes to GrimHex.)

But griefers could be a problem too

[sinful flicker]

Actually I am not that concerned about griefers

[near swallow]

Towards the end of 3.22 I did a few RMC runs in order to get the money to buy a Reclaimer before the money wipe. Only other active ship I saw at a pickup spot was a C2, and they fortunately did not bother my Caterpillar.

[olive gull]

in all the time i've been playing, and trading ... not even once i found another player who 'pirated' me, never, only pirates i'v found are NPCs

[sinful flicker]

Unlike griefers there are pirates that do organized assault on individual traders

Are there tips for avoiding these said pirates?

[spare cloud]

That's not on the list of what CIG consider griefing. Just murder hobos.
But I've had more experience of actually pirating than murder hobos

[spare cloud]

Don't do RMC

If organized pirates find you, you're dead. Find them first, don't fly directly toward the buy point, fly around it while spamming ping

[near swallow]

If doing a well known risky trade run, you don't want to go directly from your pickup spot to your destination, go partway towards another location, stop, and change directions to go towards another location. Indirect routing would help prevent being snared by PCs.

[sinful flicker]

That would be reasonable discretion

[near swallow]

The definition of griefing is not for CIG to define. What they define is what actions they consider unacceptable and what is acceptable. And to them some level of griefing is acceptable, which I think is a mistake. They only care about griefing that is "excessive" or too public. And from what I understand of it, their penalties aren't even all that bad when they apply them.

[olive gull]

i totally agree, Grieffers are despicable, all

[spare cloud]

Deal with it. It's a thing, and will always be in games like this.
You have to learn to deal with it, you don't have a choice

[olive gull]

ofc i have a choice! i can complain about it all i want

[spare cloud]

I mean, choice that change something about it

Complaining doesn't do anything

[olive gull]

still

[frosty sentinel]

Oh we kill you for your cargo alright.

Griefing is more pad ramming or respawn killing.

[spare cloud]

Complaining isn't even a choice, that's just something you do as a consequence of being griefed.
You don't have a choice but to deal with it. And if you don't want, or can't learn to live with it and work around it, then your experience will stay mid, or bad.
It can only be better to accept it and learn to play with it.

[near swallow]

If CIG lets griefing get out of control, I think it could have the potential to kill the game. But that'd be quite some time in the future.

[olive gull]

not to pick the eye of the Chat Mods but, isnt this channel for CArgo and trading???

[frosty sentinel]

True

Think it originated from talking about being pirated while carrying cargo

[spare cloud]

Pirating is totally about cargo and trading.

We're also talking about griefing cargo runs sooo

[olive gull]

[leaves the room]

[spare cloud]

[frosty sentinel]

Cig is decent with it rn. If you get evidence of pad ramming or griefing of that type, you will get said person in trouble

I think the pirates just killing to kill, while it’s not my cup of tea, I don’t see something wrong with it necessarily. Especially if they are asking for payments to enter or leave, or just locking down airspace.

You could argue that it’s similar to a group lockdown down JT. Groups will kill without a second thought. Sometimes just for PvP, not even to get the drugs. With another location for cargo, it could be seen as the same thing

[spare cloud]

I did spent a full week killing just to kill.
I wanted to reach CS5 to do a specific contract. But I didn't want to reach it killing bots, that would've been done in 15 minutes.
I had rules for my killing spree, so no killing people at space stations where's it's full of traffic and guaranteed to find people. So I spent the week flying from a RMC buypoint to an other

I would've done it with my Taurus to take cargo, but I would've never been able to defend myself alone against BHunters, so I used my F8C

[frosty sentinel]

I get that totally

It’s shit like what griefernet does that isn’t ok a lot of times

Or at least is seen super poorly

[frosty sentinel]

Yeah this patch…I’d say anyone smart will fly cargo with an escort.

[near swallow]

Problem with the escort idea, is they'd want to be paid.

[frosty sentinel]

Why shouldn’t they be

You can make millions with a cargo run

They are your insurance for if you get attacked.

Pay them something, even if it’s not 50 percent

[north oyster]

3.23.1 dropping to live tonight

[near swallow]

To have an escort, first you have to find someone you can trust, so they won't just shoot you in the back and take your cargo, then the problem becomes whether you can pay them enough for it to be worth doing instead of the other things they can do to get money.

If people can get more money doing ERTs then escorting, they'll probably rather do ERTs.

[frosty sentinel]

True. But also ERTs and BH in generally do not pay at all what they should pay for the effort you put into it, especially this patch

A decent cargo person should pay a decent amount

It’s more a person by person thing

[near swallow]

Some commodities don't pay out all that much, and there is no guarantee an escort will actually be any help.

I mean a Cat load of Beryl is like 400k.

[frosty sentinel]

Like personally, I don’t mind paying even 50 percent for escort.

I’d even be down to outright be like - ok here is 500k for u to escort me for the next X amount of time

[frosty sentinel]

True. Hopefully .x with cargo and hangars will bring us cargo missions and reworked cargo economy

[delicate girder]

That would definitely be a multi hop cargo run.

[near swallow]

With the freight elevator update it is possible the entire cargo loop will be different

[delicate girder]

When's hangers?

[near swallow]

They've said that small outposts will be intended to serve small ships, while larger ships like Cat/C2 would be expected to get cargo from larger locations with hangars and auto-loading available.

[frosty sentinel]

RMC can do a million. But you are right, the cargo payouts and loop is iffy altogether with the current economy.

It’s probably better to outright pay an escort for a run or X amount of time. And find someone who wants to escort, cause as you said, you won’t always get into a fight.

[near swallow]

So it's possible that, if RMC even stays at the locations it is at, the capacity there may get nuked.

[frosty sentinel]

The escort needs to understand that

[near swallow]

So the days of buying hundreds of SCU of RMC at Dunboro and such may come to an end.

[frosty sentinel]

Eventually they will

I mean the cargo patch will change EVERYTHING

Forced manual loading at outposts

And pay for it to auto load at cities

[near swallow]

The question is how, and if, they are going to rebalance the commodity trade

[frosty sentinel]

Hangars and cargo update were pushed to a 3.23.x patch.

And if they want to start testing 4.0 stuff in July, I’d assume we see .x in July or June release maybe

[near swallow]

When they talked about the economy last time, they talked about changing prices for ships and gear, but not about commodity prices

[frosty sentinel]

Well we know it’s coming, and eventually Quanta will decide everything. Ever changing economy driven by both npcs and players

Just it may be a heck of a while

[near swallow]

Freight elevator update I don't know when it'll happen, but a dev mentioned a possible 3.23.2 update in a couple weeks. With a fix for the Vulture's internal ladder.

So possible 3.23.2 may be in May.

[frosty sentinel]

Yes I did see that. Hoping that will bring it.

Cargo and hangars sounded close to done. But they made it sound like they had a major bug that made it so it couldn’t make 23

[sullen rain]

This patch is really making pirates out of people

[olive gull]

if you see another player that is not in your team, shoot him before he shoots you

[sullen rain]

o7 Aye Cap'n

I'll boost at 700m/s first for space though

[delicate girder]

They might not have to rebalance the commodity prices of they do a good job of the "quantum" economy system. Big IF I know.

[frosty sentinel]

The quantum economy system would technically be a rebalance tho

🤣

Big if fr lol. Probably 20 iterations after its release and I have grandkids

[delicate girder]

I'm sure that will be a part of it, but eventually, if they do it right, it should balance itself.

[frosty sentinel]

Agreed

That is very true

[near swallow]

If they actually do an economy system that is constantly changing, then we will need a way to monitor the changes in order to actually do commodity trade runs

[delicate girder]

Than again Frontier tried a dynamic economy it for years and arguably didn't get it right so we'll see.

Hello Games opted for a short term healing dynamic economy and that worked pretty well for them. We'll see what they come up with.

[frosty sentinel]

We will probably have commodity price alerts version 10.0 by then, I wouldn’t worry. And about 20 websites as well

[frosty sentinel]

👀 explain this please lol

[near swallow]

None of the websites, so far, really have realtime access to trade data, so for them to work with a dynamic economy, you'd really need an API for them to get live data from the game. And I'm not going to put much hope into price alerts.

[frosty sentinel]

Ofc. They actually had a recent post where they said they are working on official APIs

[near swallow]

For use with Org bots. Doesn't mean the API would give access to commodity trade data.

[frosty sentinel]

The commodity price thing was a joke lol. Just saying with all the hud changes and mobi changes, eventually we could have a 3D AR AI commodity tab with stock tickers, search bars, and everything else. But I’m not holding my breath either lol

[frosty sentinel]

True. But iv seen org bots that do have commodity trade data and stuff

So who knows to what extend it will go to

[near swallow]

Possible they may be getting their data from the websites that already exist.

Uexcorp, SC Trade Tools, and UIF all get their data (one way or another) from users, so it is somewhat limited.

[frosty sentinel]

Yup, totally correct.

😭 who knows lol.

Just don’t expect anything and be surprised with what we get.

[near swallow]

It is interesting that SC Trade Tools and Uexcorp are now working together, so Uexcorp may be benefitting from the data from people using the SC Trade Tools app.

[spare cloud]

I really wish people would be more willing to pay for escorts.

Haulers are so greedy

Reclaimers are ok with sharing 50/50 because they can just press three buttons and let the other guy do the boring Tetris game while they watch YouTube

And because solo or duo makes about the same money, because of how faster it is at two

[near swallow]

The profit margin for commodity trade runs is low, and I personally would have a hard time trusting anyone to be an escort unless I knew them really well.

[spare cloud]

The profit margin for anything other than gold and RMC is low.
Beryl, I agree, doesn't need an escort, it's very safe, and low ish margin.

But the margin really isn't low at all for RMC, that is not true

RMC hauler can afford escort

[spare cloud]

^

[near swallow]

The profit margin between RMC and Beryl is not that different, what is different is the cost involved and thus the payouts.

[spare cloud]

The initial investment is enough to justify escort IMO

And it's absolutely not "unaffordable"

[near swallow]

The profit margin for RMC is like 24.27%, while Beryl (in large capacity loads) is like 20.5%.

[spare cloud]

Yeah. Only good reasons to have escort

[delicate girder]

RMC is more risk though.

[spare cloud]

A lot more

[near swallow]

And a lot more invesetment, because the prices are higher, which is why the payout is so much larger.

[spare cloud]

Margin isn't the only valid point, the investment is a lot bigger.

[spare cloud]

^

Just more good reasons for it

[near swallow]

Until the announcement of the money wipe for 3.23, I avoided the RMC runs. Beryl was relatively safe and, between that, mining, and salvaging in my Vulture, I had like 10 mil when the wipe was announced. I used RMC to get the rest of the money I needed for my Reclaimer, and then also did a bit to buy a C2.

Actually, some of the money for the C2 came from the Reclaimer now that I think about it.

[brittle orchid]

whats the rmc scu cap at the different main trade hubs?\

[spice pendant]

Is there still a website with the trade routes? Returning player

[brittle orchid]

ya

[spare cloud]

!tradetools and uexcorp.space

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[brittle orchid]

doesnt show refresh rates anymore tho i dont think

[steel glade]

rmc demand drying up?

[lusty tulip]

The only best is like ED trade websate called inara. Hope they can also get official sc api

[spice pendant]

cargo or salvage? I can't decide between purchasing the c1 spirit or the vulture.

[somber stone]

vulture is the money printer

[spice pendant]

oh? It would be my first time salvaging so that's nice to know. any tips?

[lusty tulip]

Do little salvage mission until u get big ships mission

[spice pendant]

the ones that charge me?

[silent cargo]

what kind of trading runs yall doing and how much money u making, sc trade tools is doing terrible, they keep lying to me LOL

[somber stone]

main tip is to get up to 20-50k contracts and salvage them, in multiple runs if needed.

[brittle orchid]

ya bc of the exploiters

look at this dawg

[whole phoenix]

How are they even exploiting it?

[somber stone]

yeah, paying for contracts is just fastest.

[brittle orchid]

aint gonna say how to do it bc i dont use it and dont want others to, but basically theyre just duping their entire cargo load

[whole phoenix]

Why do I feel it involves forcing a local 30k...

In any case, screw them

[lusty tulip]

Yeah

[brittle orchid]

it doesnt

its fairly simple but still, its the main reason rmc demand is so awful rn

[civic aspen]

yeah and I don't think 3.23.1 is slated to fix the duping either

[whole phoenix]

And it hurts the salvaging loop too, since CMat isn't worth much

[somber stone]

As you gather several mil, you buy a large hauler ship, mirai fury. You take a 50k contract, take out a hauler, put mirai fury in it, fly up to the salvageable ship. you open cargo holds, get all valuable 2-12 sku of cargo out of salvageable hauler, then get into mirai fury, fly to the station, claim vulture, fly vulture to salvageable ship, then go scrubbing. All printed boxes go into hauler. You fill up the hauler as you like, then you abandon vulture there and either save the hauler on the station and log off, or you land on planet and do THE BIG SELL.

more specifics in the salvage-and-mining channel if you wish.

[brittle orchid]

ya, its awful. they really gotta implement the live market sooner rather than later so we can actually change up what we haul

[brittle orchid]

it probs will, they usually are pretty on top of hauling exploits

[whole phoenix]

And that could also make T2 mining goods worth something

[brittle orchid]

ya

even just looking at the sellable items in a tdd, p much everything is always out of stock constantly

bc its only the BEST thing that everyone is trading

[lusty tulip]

I got cs3 when moving a salvagable ship using tractor beam, is that normal?

[potent cosmos]

New Babbage says no demand for RMC??

[brittle orchid]

correct, most places have no demand right now

partially bc rmc is the most hot commodity from salvage or just for trading in general

[silent cargo]

anyone know where i should sell med supplies?

[brittle orchid]

as such theres also an exploit where people are duping cargo bays, so the rmc demand is even lower

[brittle orchid]

depends on where ur at

i like hdms ryder

[potent cosmos]

Damn that's crazy. What you supposed to do with your whole ass reclaimer or vulture you just bought? 😅😅😅

[silent cargo]

ok

[brittle orchid]

sit and wait for the refresh lol

after i sell this set of rmc from my cat im gonna go find a different trade route

[silent cargo]

speaking of which, anyone have a good trading route for c2?

[brittle orchid]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[brittle orchid]

uexcorp.space also has good intel

you can plan routes pretty easy

just stay away from rmc for right now

[silent cargo]

had bad luck with sc, do u have smt to reccomend

[silent cargo]

ok

[brittle orchid]

uex has some good stuff, a solid one is astatine from ryder to the terra jump gate

p low cost of entry and a decent profit each run

nothing crazy but it works

[potent cosmos]

How longs the reset for rmc at new babbage?

[brittle orchid]

takes a long time

idk the exact length

havent been able to figure it out myself bc everyone gives different answers

[steel glade]

how often does demand refresh?

[brittle orchid]

again, not sure

i believe it used to go down at a fixed rate per minute, but i have no clue if thats true anymore

ive been sitting at the a18 terminal for a while now waiting for it to refresh

just refreshed for me actually

thank god

can finally do something else

[spare cloud]

Terminals refresh every five minutes or so, but it takes multiple refresh for a full restock.

[brittle orchid]

honestly i think most ppl r avoiding the other big trade routes with the rmc shenanigans

[narrow kettle]

what would be a good quantum drive for the C2? The base one just feels too slow... 😄

[hollow sedge]

was cargo from ERTs nerfed?

[near swallow]

Yes, in 3.22.0a

[hollow sedge]

me and a friend have done like 3-4 ERTs and only found like 5 SCU of quantanium total

[hollow sedge]

before 3.23 dropped i used to find weevil eggs on the regular

now i cant seem to find anthing

[near swallow]

There was talk about mission reward rebalancing for 3.23, but no specifics.

[hollow sedge]

i see

[visual night]

TS-2

[north oyster]

3.23.1 is LIVE

All current players still in 3.23.0 will be kicked in about 30 minutes

[tough wagon]

dont update if you havent sold

youll lose everything

lost everything i had stockpiled

[thick sage]

Did the dupe shit get fixed? Can I finally play properly?

[tacit delta]

have they fixed the ghost cargo?

[vernal rock]

will the home location be reset?

[fossil atlas]

I have ghost cargo in 3.23.1
if by ghost cargo you mean still having cargo even after you sell all of it

[tacit delta]

the invisible cargo in cargo grid

[fossil atlas]

I have a different issue then sorry

I sold all my stims at one place,
went to go buy distilled spirits at another place but all the stims I sold were still in my ship (but invisible inside the ship) and I could sell 32 scu at a time

[near swallow]

Best not to store your ship before selling or buying cargo. Otherwise you might have to reclaim it to fix it.

[fossil atlas]

I'll try reclaiming thank you

[near swallow]

Also, as far as I know, cargo not on a grid is not affected by the bug.

[azure pasture]

wat do i do if im trading rmc and there is no demand?

[tacit delta]

either go somewhere else or... wait

until that price update notification appears

[vestal ravine]

Is the game double stacking the 2nd cargo purchase? Were the Spirits sold normally or turned invisible also?

[fossil atlas]

so i bought stims at some moon,

1. sold them at new babbage and got all the money for them
2. got money for selling
3. went to a different moon to buy distilled spirits
4. at the trading depot on the new moon, it turns out i still have a full cargo load of stims?

• no cargo was visible in the cargo deck
• i didn't check to see if they were physically there or not

5. i could sell stims and buy distilled spirits

i fixed this issue by reclaiming my ship
and now i follow edrickv's advice not to store my ship when doing cargo stuff

[vestal ravine]

Why didn't you sell the Spirits?

[fossil atlas]

because i was at a location where i was buying them

[eager lava]

infinite monie..

[azure pasture]

how do you initiate the cargo bug?

[vestal ravine]

Just take any cargo ship you have and depending on your space bucks buy as much Gold as you can and go through the steps listed above.

[scarlet rover]

Is IC tracking a bug where the Hull C spawns outside a docking port but the door is still closed?

[spare cloud]

Every ship that spawns on docking ports do that. For all but the 890J, you can spawn a big ship like the hercules, then retrieve the bugged ship, it'll be in a hangar instead of docking port

[scarlet rover]

Go it. So, request Herc at ASOP, don't go to hangar, request Hull at ASOP, Hull should be in the Herc hangar instead?

[spare cloud]

Yes

[vernal rock]

why is my ship not showing in commidity kiosk at Rappel

[turbid blade]

did you buy it ingame before this most recent patch? If so the patch ate it and it's probably just gone.

[vernal rock]

what

no I park my ship at Rappel and I cant buy stuff into my cargo

[warm totem]

not sure but it could be that there is simply no RMC available at that time at rappel

[visual night]

That was happening at Dunboro and Maker's but last I checked in 3.23.0 Rappel recognized my ship in the drop down

If you definitely parked close enough, that terminal might be bugged now

[vernal rock]

there are RMV

*RMC

I parked really close

its the terminal that says "Commodity" right?

[visual night]

Yep

You can see RMC for sale, but in the drop down it only shows Rappel and your player name?

Or not even that?

[vernal rock]

yes

only rappel and my name

[spare cloud]

Just a bug, sometimes locations won't detect ships. Server hop or go somewhere else

[vernal rock]

two of my names actually

[visual night]

Yeah you can try taking off and relanding at a slightly diff spot but might not do anything. Get out of atmo, bed log, try a different server or region even

If you have displayinfo open and confirm your cargo bay area shows the right spot, it's a terminal issue

[naive bane]

anyone know if the cargo bug, where your cargo hold shows as filled at the traders screen even though you already sold the contents before, has been fixed with the patch?

[visual night]

I hope not, I got a few double sells out of that glitch...

I don't think it's fully fixed from what I've seen people post

[naive bane]

I wish I could sell double, I wasn't able to and had to just insurance claim my ship

[vernal rock]

what's the best cargo ship with the fast quantum?

[spare cloud]

C2

TS-2 QD

[visual night]

I have dubbed my route the Boomerang Route. Go buy half, sell at one spot, go back and buy another half to get full (terminal only shows 50% space), go to a different planet from the first selling point, sell the recent half. Then sometimes the original half also shows up

Once, I had several trips worth keep appearing, even after I had claimed my ship and gotten more cargo. 300% profit or something ridiculous

[small prism]

cant wait for trading to be worth more than 2 or 3 products to make a decent profit >.<

[visual night]

Yeah there are some ok margins on a few things, but the capacity to buy/sell means you spend way more time hopping around or waiting at a terminal

Which means everyone goes for RMC, Gold, Beryl, or maybe Laranite

[shrewd pasture]

I assume Hull C trading is just as painful and lacks decent profit again this patch?

[near swallow]

Hull C trading is also prone to plenty of bugs.

[visual night]

FYI I tried this route/technique today, both landings on planet had auto stored my ship before selling. Unable to duplicate the cargo sell, but my grid is most likely still blocked and will need to claim before another run

[high rain]

Thing is those top 2 or 3 products come by pirates, the rest is safer so it balances, just needs to be a broader balance I suppose

Anyone know if Invictus includes free flight?

[sour delta]

what is the best cargo ship i can rent to start cargo

[spare cloud]

Andromeda

[sour delta]

k tnx

[sour delta]

I dont know much abt cargo but wanna learn i have abt 800k anything u reccomend

[high rain]

https://uexcorp.space/commodities

[lost fjord]

do shops not update supplies while you're there? lol I've been here forever and stock hasn't moved

[olive gull]

16 SCU, not bad at all

[limpid sluice]

I believe it's about every 5 mins, but also stock is shared between all servers in a region

[olive gull]

i've waited 10-15 mins for an stock refresh, but it happened

[limpid sluice]

Could be 10 then, I don't recall. Don't do too much cargo running

[quaint lantern]

Anny kargo runs going on would like to tag along with my hauler

h=just started

[cobalt obsidian]

Did my first courier run last night, and right as I was getting to the package, I got blown up, that normal??

[olive gull]

did you got a notification with the name of your attacker?

[cobalt obsidian]

I don't remember

[olive gull]

and, i would not say 'normal' but quite coomon, yeah..

[cobalt obsidian]

Took a while to get the hang of flying, but thought I'd become a courier for awhile to get the hang of the game.

If they ever finish it, it's going to be an epic place to get lost

[olive gull]

you are doing right, box delivering is a peacefull way to know the game, it takes ya to many interesting places

TIP: whereever you go, check for red or white boxes, they contain cool stuff that you can loot

[cobalt obsidian]

Will do

I just started playing last night

[olive gull]

welcome to the Verse!, dont hesitate to ask for help when you need or just chat

[cobalt obsidian]

Sounds good.

[nimble light]

Do you think this mpuv tractor makes other mpuv obsolete? I think the cargo one kinda loses its value now that this one exists and can carry cargo better

[olive gull]

the new one has 16 scu cap versus the 2 scu from the old one, so yeahhh

still i dont think there is gameplay for them yet

[south forge]

Kopion Horns still not sellable ?

[scenic plume]

Depends on how modularity for the MPUVs pans out. If the 16 SCU load is the default for unladen/without Module then the lower price point and lack of Tractor Beams is the main downside compared to the other MPUVs.
But the Cargo module does let you store delivery boxes and other 1/8th stuff.

[slim nova]

since when is this a thing ?

[olive gull]

so, they did not fixed the cargo bug on 3.23.1 huh?

[visual night]

Since 3.22 at least. Did you take RMC from another player's ship?

[visual night]

Nope not yet. Still can't consistently reproduce double selling though

[slim nova]

yes

[visual night]

The only place I've found to sell it is Grim Hex. The terminal would show it as unregistered, but clicking just outside the box at the top right would select it (3.22, haven't tested on 3.23)

It's possible that a No Questions Asked terminal would work, but none of them (that I know of) have demand for RMC

[left coral]

a long time, since 3.18 piracy is a thing, so go to Grim, or another unregistered terminal

[summer whale]

are there no locations taking rmc anymore?

[spring copper]

It's popular to sell, and demand is region-wide. If you wait a little while it might free up (or try swapping regions)

[vapid ermine]

Is there a site I can see commodity reset times?

[olive gull]

nope

[south badge]

I looked into that! Appreciate your help, I'm gonna look into what I can do with a rented ship soon

[earnest pike]

what are some good routes that aren’t pirated super often?

running using a constellation

andromeda

[summer whale]

yeah salvaging seems pretty fucked this recent patch. none of the locations I have travelled to are in demand and when I go back to my ship to try to go to a different location, all my rmc cargo crates just disappear. but apparently ship parts will continue to be stored in the cargo bay but the actual important cargo vanishes. seems like they fucked salvaging completely at least for my client

[visual night]

The cargo might just be invisible, but will still let you sell if there's demand. A18 has the largest pool for RMC, but it doesn't instantly drop to 0 on a refresh. If someone is in the same region waiting there to sell, it can fill back up again almost immediately.

It's usually a safer bet to wait it out for 15 mins vs retrieving and trying another planet to sell

[earnest pike]

wdym a18?

area 18?

[visual night]

Yep exactly

[earnest pike]

is rmc the best thing to trade other than gold rn?

i dont wanna to slam or drugs

[visual night]

It'll be hard to make much from it without a larger cargo bay. RMC and Gold are good margins, but the highest risk of pirates. Especially since RMC buy locations can be glitched, so players are funneled to a few spots per planet and don't have armistice zones.

[visual night]

My recommendation is to check uexcorp for Beryl. Ok margins for buying, and there are a lot more options and less chance for a pirate to find you. You can also find multiple routes Moon->Planet in the same place, instead of jumping between planets

[earnest pike]

what i have been doing is going to shubin mining sm0-18 and going to nbb but its almost always out of gold

made huge profit though cause it duped one time

(on accident)

[summer whale]

this was definitely the case. my buddy and i were just able to sell at grim hex so that might be our new spot to sell. thank you for that tip about cargo being invisible

[visual night]

If you've already been trading gold, more power to ya. Just watch your back, especially landing anywhere that doesn't have armistice. Someone will shoot you on the ground, take your ship, offload the cargo elsewhere

[earnest pike]

sm0-18 has an armistice zone, though i've been shot down once by a criminal unfortunately

i see your point though, but what are other gold locations

i heard there was another one on microtech but i cant find it, sm0-13 doesn't sell gold anymore but still shows on websites

[olive gull]

https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Gold

[slim nova]

cant sell it at ADmin in Grim what the heck

why cant i sell my Stolen RCM at Grim ?

[visual night]

Yeah the sites only say 2 or 3 spots, all with pretty small quantities. It's user reported, so only somewhat accurate/current

[visual night]

Click on the top right side while moving your mouse up and down. Not on the button, on the blank space next to it

[visual night]

Yes, the stolen overlay is there, but in 3.22 there was a sliver of invisible pixels for the button underneath. Google and find the reddit post for a demonstration if you need it

[olive gull]

or... you know... DONT STEAL!, get a job

[earnest pike]

i havent seen the option to buy gold at sm0-13 any idea how to?

sorry for all the questions

[visual night]

The same thing happens with perfectly ethical RMC from GameRules ships...

[slim nova]

hmmm .... No :3

[visual night]

If it's not listed on the terminal, it probably doesn't have the option. I think on the Buy column, right side, it should show it with 0 stock if it's sold but currently out

[covert creek]

on UExcorp it said that I could sell gold & beryl at orison municipal services but it's not letting me. is there somewhere else at orison I can sell them?

[hollow sedge]

Does this Tractor make the cargo obsolete? I guess cargo would be for small containers ?

[olive gull]

the old MPUV Cargo only had 2 scu capacity, i doubt anyone used it for its intended role, mayyybe for box delivery missions xD

[hollow sedge]

So are all mpuvs identical in essence, in the modular future, or will they be unique even with mods

[visual night]

Is it No Demand or Can't Sell? There's also the TDD at cloudview

[covert creek]

nah it isn't

I didn't check cloudview, was just gonna go to lorville. should I check TDD at cloudview then?

@visual night

[olive gull]

they are different atm, who knows the future

[visual night]

It's just one tram ride away! Worth it to check imo

[spring copper]

per the MPUV-1T FAQ; it will be modular in the future to allow you to fit the -1P or -1C pods to the rear. Currently, the -1T is the only one with the tractor beams, and it also has an updated cockpit (that will roll out to the other models with their modularity update at some point)

[hollow sedge]

One interpretation of that is the Tractor will still have the front beam and therefore is better. I guess it's speculation other than the fact that mods will be available in some capacity

[spring copper]

Yeah - it's unclear whether the other models will get the hardpoints to mount tractor beams, but I'd expect that's also part of the model update.

[raven hatch]

If my ship wasn't stored before this patch, did I lose all of my cargo?

[visual night]

I'm 100% sure the TDD will take Beryl, since I sold some on Orison. Not sure about Gold though

[covert creek]

which one of these buildings do I go to again? I forget lol

I just went to the crusader showroom being a dumbass

[raven hatch]

stratus

[covert creek]

thanks bb

[raven hatch]

well, it's right next to it on the right

[visual night]

Yep across the bridge, dead ahead

[olive gull]

big patches use to delete un-stored ships, i lost my Taurus like this, however this last patch werent that big, so you should not loose your ship, but there had been a lot of reported bugs related to cargo after 3.23

[manic kayak]

o7
notification "commodities price alert" is gone with 3.23 ?

[covert creek]

unfortunately yes, anything not in LTP was removed like med pens, cargo, etc

[raven hatch]

.....damn.

[visual night]

All of my ships reappeared as Retrieve at my home location, in both the 3.23 and 3.23.1 patch. Most likely that means your cargo is gone

[raven hatch]

I'm having the worst luck with cargo

I had just hit 200k too....

[covert creek]

@visual night gold & beryl both sold, thank you sir

[covert creek]

it's always been like that tbh my man

refinery jobs etc aren't long term persistent data right now 😦

maybe they will be soon though 🙂 but also in the future there will be very few wipes

won't be another one until 4.0 I presume

I lost my fuckin c2 in this 3.23.1 patch tho, fml lol

[visual night]

I actually got back the Corsair when .1 dropped, so now I have two. One's gonna be ballistic, the other laser so I'm not complaining

[slim nova]

same issue at TDD in Hurston how do i fix this crap

[visual night]

Clicking off the side of the button at Grim didn't work?

[slim nova]

not rlly

[delicate girder]

Did 3.23.1 fix the phantom cargo problem when you store your ship with cargo?

[visual night]

Nope

[visual night]

I'm gonna go test in game and check

[delicate girder]

I will too.

[slim nova]

Mind telling me what button again ?

[visual night]

It only works at Grim in my experience. The button on the left, under In Demand, which you select to see the quantity slider and Sell button

Clicking off the side of the button lets you select the material, and Sell should appear normally

@slim nova Someone in chat is saying a tiny spot, bottom right. And that other places besides Grim should work

[slim nova]

alr ill try can i sell cargo when my ship is stored ?

[visual night]

You're supposed to be able to, yes. People were reporting that sometimes storing would lose cargo. And if you sell from a stored ship, the cargo grid will be blocked from buying.

I'm guessing "liberated" cargo would still snap, since the ship is physically/visually empty

[slim nova]

ye i only optain cargo the free way

[visual night]

I'll be sure to keep an eye out for you then 😉

[slim nova]

A Crash just fucking Deleted Half a Million worth of Cargo ...

[visual night]

SC giveth, and she taketh away

No loss to you if it was pirated, right? Unless it was from NPCs I don't feel much sympathy

[slim nova]

xD i mean it was not really Pirated it was floating in Space near Miners Outlet

so not Pirated only Finders Keepers

[visual night]

Yeah I call that "ethically liberated"

We lost 20 SCUs of eggs aka 2 mil to a game crash in 3.23. and in 3.22, lost over 150 SCUs of eggs due to a QT bug and game crash. Shit happens, just gotta roll with it

[visual night]

I have some sympathy then for sure lol

[native hatch]

What's the rotation on the tour/flyby?

rotation time*

[shy olive]

anyone know anything abt delivering audio equipment to the convention center?

[vestal ravine]

My friend and I getting the cargo glitch to work with Beryl and at nbis tdd.

[vestal ravine]

Be careful on overbuying that item unless it's a new option for the festival.

[visual night]

Nice! Do you know if you sold while the ship was stored? Or after it was auto stored?

[shy olive]

thx

is there a trick to buy RMC at Maker;s point? ship not appearin in the terminal and it's landed outside of the building

[vestal ravine]

Normal store go sell fly ship out to Surface Entrance get out of ship lock up suicide yourself go to the TDD again should be able to sell twice. Make sure spawn set to nbis. We tested a complete log off after 1st sale and full relog went to the tdd no cargo.

[hasty smelt]

best drug to flip from jt to brios?

[visual night]

Thanks for the info! Seems like it has to do with selling while stored, then selling while NOT stored

Or with high SFPS, the server correctly knows you already sold it. I was on one with 30 FPS, my ship auto-stored at the hangar, and the TDD terminal showed empty cargo (even though at the buy terminal it was blocked).

[shy olive]

ship is at 60m from the shop...

[visual night]

Someone reported earlier that Rappel wasn't showing their ship after landing. Seems like it's yet another bugged location

[shy olive]

and Maker's point didn't had any selection

[visual night]

Yeah I double checked Maker's not that long ago, definitely bugged

It's easy money for pirates right now

[shy olive]

any other that could work? any idea?>

[visual night]

All buyers beware

I gave you a hint 😉

shhhhhh the pirates!

[shy olive]

thx

[shy olive]

same problem

[visual night]

That is unfortunate. We just bought there but maybe the server you're on is crunching, or bugged in a way that isn't recognizing you're in range

[strong orchid]

Is there a work around or fix for the phantom cargo by any chance ? I scraped together enough to hire a cargo ship today, this bug has stopped me before I can make some profits

[warm totem]

all ships would be "claimed" after a patch/wipe so yeah you lose the cargo, also refinery jobs get lost too!

[coarse ember]

Rn the workaround is get rid of the ship, claim it then don't store it when you go to sell

[mossy radish]

theres nothing i can do about the invsible cargo bug right?

[coarse ember]

Message above

[mossy radish]

damn so i lose the cargo

[vernal nexus]

what should i haul now with the new update?

is cm still the best?

[visual night]

RMC has the best margin, but there are limited places to buy that pirates like to camp at (or interdict near sell points). Beryl is popular as a slightly safer alternative

[narrow kettle]

is it possible that you cant sell cargo of the C2 if you lock the cargo bay ramps? Just bought stuff for nearly 8 mil and it's not showing up this time, the only difference is that I locked the cargobay lol

[violet sentinel]

did they fix the cargo bug?

[tulip wigeon]

Can I purchase the C2 from the pledge store

[stark sun]

not rn

[covert aurora]

"TUR is basically FLT for turrets but it was not meant to be on pilot seats." - YogiKlatt-CIG https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/4/thread/3-23-eptu-feedback-master-modes/6764247

[delicate girder]

What's the best commodity to haul from the Crusader system to Area18?

A C2 worth.

[sterile ridge]

Yo

If I store a ship with cargo in it will it be there when I play again

Like all my profit for today is in there lol

[violet sentinel]

gold or rmc i think

[manic kayak]

hey

is there a workaround for c2 phantom cargo ?

other than reclaiming the ship & wait 10 min

ok I just read the above messages, my bad 😅

so, what do you all think will happen in 3.23.X when freight elevators will come out ? will it be the end of RMC trading ?
will we have to manually load 700scu of cargo in our c2 while not being in armistice zone ?

[vestal ravine]

Am checking this morning.

[hollow sedge]

Is ghost cargo fixed?

Or did they not get to it with the update

[vestal ravine]

Still active post patch

[hollow sedge]

[lavish rose]

how often does the shops refresh ?

[dire spoke]

but the ghost cargo stuff is exploitable to get free money isn't it?

[stiff vine]

Every 5 minutes I believe but it's a gradual refresh and you're competing with other shards for supply and demand at any given location

[hollow sedge]

i would give away at least one of my children for an ARGO ship that you can deploy ground vehicles from, so you can take your toys with you places

[north oyster]

I wonder if they're not going to worry about any of the exploits and do a 100% clean wipe/reset for 4.0, unless they do a clean up for the Cargo/hanger update

[visual night]

CIG have already said 4.0 is planned to be a full wipe, including ships

[narrow kettle]

Did they change anything behind the curtains about area 18? I cant sell RMC there anymore. Not that it has "no demand", no, the cargo of my ship doesnt even show up there lol

[north oyster]

I'm just saying they might not be worrying abou t the current state of exploits since 4.0 is Q3

[visual night]

Well, hopefully. Wouldn't surprise me if the cargo duplication goes away when the next update releases

[north oyster]

I would avoid Area18 for any type of Trade at the moment, I saw about 30 C2's laying around because of the dupping exploit

With ILW happening there, it's way above normal with traffic and congession

[visual night]

We were selling there last night, very laggy. Maybe the server is struggling and after more time it would recognize you landed?

[north oyster]

The server I was on last night was being hammered. Big sections of freezes and lag while in the Convention Center

[scarlet rover]

I've got a C1 Spirit in my hangar, as well as the Olympia paint. I can spawn the C1 in PU, but the paint doesn't appear in my inventory or loadout options.

Is Olympia still locked out of the PU until CIG implements the E1?

[north oyster]

I'm thinking it's a build/bug issue, not a restriction

Which one is the Olympian? I have both the E1 and the C1 (as loaner) and all the paints. The livery I normally grab is the red one with the big writing on it

In the PTU is was working ok for most of the liveries