industrial-professions

[hard swan]

Low risk high profit.

[spare cloud]

No

Risk is proportional to profit

Deal with it

Beryl form ita to lorville probably what you're looking for ig

[hard swan]

Whats ITA?

[spare cloud]

A moon

[hard swan]

So whats the risk 1?

[spare cloud]

Alright 🤷

Not very frequented route

[hard swan]

Best route for hull C

[spare cloud]

That I can't help with

Hull C is in a bad place atm, often bugged, and its routes are not well documented TBH

[near swallow]

Beryl sells better at Orison I think, and it's not as creepy as I find Lorville's CBD.

[spare cloud]

But Ita has close to unlimited stocks, and Lorville buys close to unlimited stocks

It's a 0 wait time route

[coarse dome]

whats a goods starter cargo ship

[olive gull]

for pledge? the C1 spirit, for ingame credits? ....

[spare cloud]

Freelancer MAX is great to start with

Good value for the space it has

[olive gull]

yeah but the Freelancer isnt an Starter... that's why i hesitated

[coarse dome]

i would prefer not to spend irl money

[spare cloud]

C1 is a starter ?

[olive gull]

yes

[spare cloud]

No

[spare cloud]

MAX is affordable, 2 mil aUEC.
It's right in the middle, not too big for drugs, not too small for lawful cargo, quite a good ship to get started with trading

[coarse dome]

what would you suggest after max?

cause my current trade ship is the tarous

[spare cloud]

Taurus ?

[coarse dome]

yeah

(i suck at spelling)

[spare cloud]

If you have that already it's great, you can use that

You'll have better defense than with the MAX if needed, and more cargo

[coarse dome]

thats why im using it tbh

so I can defend if needed

[spare cloud]

And ✨ tractor beam ✨

It's useless for now. For regular trading at least

But 3.23 will see a refactor of the cargo gameplay, and a tractor beam will be super handy

[coarse dome]

so should I just save up for m2 next?

[spare cloud]

I don't know is the MAX has one

[spare cloud]

If you're gonna save up for a Hercules to haul with, get the C2. M2 has less cargo space and only gains a chin turret in exchange of it. You need someone to man it

[coarse dome]

hmmmm

[spare cloud]

Pilot weapons are the same

[coarse dome]

anything between taurus and c2?

[spare cloud]

Not really.
There's the caterpillar, but it's just worse than the C2 on every point.
Except on the tractor beam, that will be great when cargo is reworked, but nothing to worry about now

There's the carrack too

[coarse dome]

I really like how the cat looks

[spare cloud]

Yeah, looks good

[coarse dome]

hmmmm

i think the carrack is a smidge more than the c2

[spare cloud]

It's five times more expensive

26 mils

[coarse dome]

small price to pay for

ummm

space ship

how is the raft?

[spare cloud]

Bad

External cargo, made basically just for 32 SCU boxes

Half the cargo of the Taurus too

[coarse dome]

damn

i love for argo ships look

[coarse dome]

yeah tried the cat out

its so slow

not worth

[wraith ice]

but it has style

[coarse dome]

I think for in space only transport its fantastic

But planet side it struggles

Granted mine is stiock

[slate spruce]

I tried the raft recently. No tractor beam, slow, very narrow cargo options (just the 32s). The loading of containers manually is also not that smooth, you need to maneuver the huge containers to the "claws" with precision, the snap-on area isn't that big.

[near swallow]

Eventually the Caterpillar is supposed to have swappable modules with different uses as well as a detachable command module. It also currently has 2 different tractor beams with 2 different operating stations. One on the command module. The lower section of the cargo doors are also supposed to function as elevators, but that doesn't work yet either. It is very slow though, at least in 3.22. How the Cat (or C2) will fly in 3.23 I don't know.

In theory the Cat has a lot of potential, but a lot of that depends on features that aren't working yet. It does work as a cargo hauler, and is I think the only flight ready ship of it's size category that is designed specifically to be a cargo hauler. (The C2 is meant less for cargo hauling and more for vehicles, or so people have said multiple times.) In the future, as long as auto-loading is available, then I guess the C2 will still be viable.

[coarse dome]

Welp c2 has been purchased

Time to start making money

[dapper mesa]

So is it just a pain in the ass to sell salvage anymore?

[slate spruce]

CM selling is fine, and can be done on stations. RMC is a better bet on Orison or Area18. Lorville and NB are flooded with RMC from trading

[dapper mesa]

Oh i forgot about trading that. They should have known that would screw with salvage loop.

[vestal ravine]

test...

[fallow slate]

Go to Question am I losing my mind or is the holiday meant for in space only use because I’ve crashed the thing two times trying to leave planet because it’s engines are not powerful enough to lift it and load or maybe I’m just flying but then again, it’s not very easy to die going up launching is go up not go down

[limpid sluice]

did you mean the Hull C by chance?

otherwise im not sure what "holiday" refers to

[fallow slate]

Sorry I use dictation a lot. I said HULL A may not be the whole sea, but she still takes forever to maneuver and fully loaded. It’s a pain in the ass to fly.

[limpid sluice]

Haven't flown the Hull A, not sure what it's like. The C is definitely meant for space station trading only though.

[somber bay]

I think it's supposed to be for moving goods from LEO station to the city under it but we dont have those routes in game

[bleak patio]

Is there a way to collect weapons / modules from crashed wrecks and sell them?

[slate spruce]

Yes. You need a multitool with tractor beam, target the component and try moving it in different directions, until it detaches. You can then move it to your ship, leave it there, and sell it in a shop that sells these weapons/components.

[near swallow]

Maybe in atmosphere it is supposed to use VTOL? Some ships are like that.

[tacit delta]

Apparently Hull C doesn't have VTOL

[tacit delta]

Do Zeta Prolanide missions actually have hostiles? I noticed a bunch of NPCs next to it

[slate spruce]

I've never noticed any hostiles there. Just that the z-p is really hard to remove from its holding containers without glitching.

[tacit delta]

I noticed 4 neutral NPCs hanging around the area and generally being intimidating
Twice, not sure if same location or not

[weak tinsel]

can i load up my cargo form a refinery order to my friends ship ?

[spring copper]

Not directly - you need to take it out of refinery into a cargo ship you own. But if your friend has a larger ship, you can manually transfer the boxes from your ship to theirs after you've taken it out (you can rent a Cutlass Black at the refinery if you don't have any cargo ships)

[weak tinsel]

yeah i was guessing that

[spring copper]

With the Cargo update coming in a patch soon, you would be able to do this how you want to, though - the new update will allow you to call your station inventory (i.e. the boxes you've refined) into your friend's hangar and have his ship loaded from there.

Just not possible in the current live version 😄

[weak tinsel]

ty ❤️

[limpid sluice]

They always seem to hang around wreck sites, and once you show up, they seem to hover down low. Be wary of getting blown around from their jetwash

[tacit delta]

But they won't attack?

[limpid sluice]

No, they're neutral. Other than an annoyance with the jet wash and being in the way, they won't bother you unless you attack or bump into them

[glacial finch]

I can't buy from Makers Point. I go to the commodities terminal and try to select my C2 as a source but it won't show up. The entire area has no landing pads. Any idea how to fix this?

[limpid sluice]

Afaik, Makers Point is currently bugged, though its marked as fixed for the next patch i believe

[near swallow]

Don't know much about Maker's Point, but it is possible that fix might not be in the next patch but in 3.23.x, when freight elevators come in. Because the freight elevator system and manual loading along with commodity rebalancing will amount to a major overhaul of the system.

[mystic bolt]

How is trading going atm, last I played it had alot of stock to trade issues.

[hoary monolith]

Any idea how hard it will be to solo a connie once engineering gameplay is added? I'm debating melting it for a zeus mkII CL when they are available again.

[olive gull]

if solo, you will have to drop the pilot seat to go all the way to the tail of the ship (or wherever the components are) to tweak and fix them and then going back to the pilot sit, all that while other ships are shooting at you...

this engineering thing, altogh cool in paper, its not for the solo rangers

most combat ships have the components on the outside... !!!

[hoary monolith]

that's why I'm looking at a smaller ship. I guess it will all depend on how frequently components will need to be handled while out

[hoary monolith]

combat ships = fight till you eject 🙂

[spare cloud]

There are still stock issues if you do the same thing as everyone else or low stock routes.
But there are a lot of available routes that shouldn't have any issue with stocks
Try making routes using !tradetools ⬇️

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[livid leaf]

how shou;d i make money with a c2

[spare cloud]

Trading I guess ?
Most rewarding route is RMC, but it's also risky.

[livid leaf]

is rappel-a18 a good route for that

ive heard i should do drugs

[spare cloud]

I'd avoid Rappel because of the infinite spawn bug

Drugs ? Not with a C2

[livid leaf]

whats that

[livid leaf]

why not?

[spare cloud]

Exactly what it sounds like. Infinite spawn of NPCs.

[scenic plume]

Any of the ground settlements which sells RMC is good, though as always be aware that they are not armistice zones and you're takingg a risk.

[livid leaf]

ok

[spare cloud]

Because drugs are meant for very low volume, anything bigger than 120 SCU will result is huge wait times.

[livid leaf]

ill take that risk and ivest everything frfr

[scenic plume]

Also don't spend more than 30 to 50% of your overall money on one run.

[livid leaf]

sad

[livid leaf]

idc tbh

i got friends with a few hundred mil each who let me work on their reclaimers for 10m an hour

so i think they lose money with that

also is 696 units for 10m good

[scenic plume]

Rappel has a habit of spawning over 200 NPCs for evict illegal occupant missions, you can get 400+ at once.
These NPCs tend to end up under the ground or inside structures. If you get close enough to Rappel when this bug is happening your FPS will becomes SPF and the server will chug.

[livid leaf]

oh

[spare cloud]

Don't go there

[livid leaf]

rip servers

i am the destroyer of servers

all the power is mine

[coarse dome]

ok so I bought a bunch of medical supplies cause the sc trader website said it was a good route and welp the places arent taking more than a couple at a time so im kinda stuck would it be worth to just log for now and give it a couple hours to see if the route clears up

[spare cloud]

It'll only ever buy a few at a time

[mystic bolt]

whats a good 1 man ship for trying out some trade/hauling?

[spare cloud]

Freelancer MAX is a great ship to get started with hauling

[mystic bolt]

what are the options for hauling atm? if i get the FLM and enjoy flying between stations?

[spare cloud]

Space only trading has very little choice and very low margins

It is meant for ships like the Hull C, but it's still hardly usable

[mystic bolt]

what about surface to surface?

or space/surface?

trying to figure a game loop ill enjoy, so trying hauling/trading, mining or salvaging

outside of combat

for when im not in the mood for it 😄

[spare cloud]

The vast majority of trading is surface to surface

[mystic bolt]

i dont mind that, i find landing and shit the fun parts

ive got a cutlass black atm, will that work much till i can get a proper hauler? or should i do something else to get the ship

[near swallow]

I've done Beryl in my MAX before. For example SAL-5 to Orison. Now I have a Cat though and SAL-5 can't handle that volume.

[spare cloud]

Cutlass isn't much

I'd rather earn money doing bounties or bunkers to get a Lancer MAX and then haul

Or ROC mining

That's a great option

[still mauve]

recycled materials from dunboro to ar corop 1mil profit in hercules started with 3milion profit money (dont be me and look for rust building sign there and not searching the place for 30min 🙂 final money yesterday 4milion

[spare cloud]

That's nothing relevant for a begineer

[still mauve]

more money i made than all patches combined it is something 🙂

[spare cloud]

And that doesn't make it relevant

[mystic bolt]

I just went and did a PI task lol that was weird. So how much is a FLM?

I have about 30k on me and i imagine thats not nearly enough?

[spare cloud]

Oh yeah not enough

A full load of beryl for example, with a MAX would be about 300k aUEC.

[mystic bolt]

ahhh ok

[spare cloud]

And you need money on the side, cause you don't want to invest all of your money

Generally try not to invest more than 30% of your money on a single load.

[mystic bolt]

ahh ok

[mystic bolt]

Im considering buyiong a ship with IRL money (another package lol) would i be better with a miner or a hauler? if i wanted to make starting money outside of combat?

I know this isnt the mining chat but its a mix of both 😄

[spare cloud]

You don't need an other package if you have one already.
Just buy a standalone ship

[spare cloud]

You can ask in #ccu-and-fleet-advice

[mystic bolt]

yea thats what i mean 😄

[nova plank]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[mystic bolt]

So what Haulers are there available in the game atm?

Obvs the Taurus, C2, Cutty B, FL MAX. what else is there? Talking the more dedicated haulers.

[elder whale]

Caterpillar

Hull-A/C

[mystic bolt]

the Hull C is released?

Thats meant to be a big boy aint it

[elder whale]

Oh yes It is

[mystic bolt]

does it go planetside?

[elder whale]

Not with cargo rack deployed

[mystic bolt]

always curious to how they land with the bottom storage in the pictures

[elder whale]

It can only deck at stations when deployed

[mystic bolt]

ahh so just space station

[elder whale]

Including the jump point stations

So not extremely bad

[mystic bolt]

was thinking about ships to haul stuff down to planets from refineries 😄 think the caterpillar is probs the biggest go to atm?

[elder whale]

Hard to say with 3.23 coming really soon

A lot of flight profiles changed apparently

C2 is supposed to be the best hauler right now, but that's going to change afaik

[mystic bolt]

oh really?

whats being expected?

[elder whale]

Cannot remember all the number changes from the top of my mind

But erkul has all the new data mined stats

So you can already compare ships (at least in paper)

[spare cloud]

C2 is, and is going to stay the best hauler until the cargo refactor.
This is not coming in 3.23.0, but in an other 3.23 patch.

We'll have to load our ships ourselves, so ship tractor beams will be very convenient.

And C2 doesn't have one

With the refactor should also come new "cargo missions" that we don't know shit about

[mystic bolt]

ahh thats cool AF

instead of like auto cargo

[spare cloud]

You can see pretty much all about it in [this video](#official-social-media message)

And here's [an additional Q&A](#sc-news message)

[mystic bolt]

Ill take a butchers and a read 😄

[near swallow]

If you are just planning to do one Mole load, refine it, and take it down to sell, a MAX would work. (That's with refining pretty much everything you can. If you're more picky about what you refine, you'll be able to use smaller ships and/or fit more loads into one ship.)

To fill a Cat or C2 you would need to do a whole bunch of Mole loads. And if you only have a Prospector, then a Cutty Black may work on a per load basis. Also, C1 should be available for sale in game once 3.23 drops. I've also used that for a single Mole load, though sometimes it's not quite big enough.

I've filled my Cat to like 70% or so once, with multiple Mole loads of ores done over the course of several days. (Usually like one or two loads a day.) In that case, the first load was refined using the slow, cheap, high yield method, the following loads were refined using methods that would be done at about the same time or earlier then that first load, so it was a mixed bag of methods, with multiple jobs running at once, and had a new patch dropped I would have lost all the in progress jobs.

[mystic bolt]

Yea just a prospector as a MOLE really requires a group though doesn't it? I was looking at picking up something from the Hull series as i love the concept art for those 😄 Yea the Cutty B works for a prospector but my aim was to bank a load in throughout a week or something then claim it all and do one big haul. I have considered filtering what i refine and only refine thre T1/2 materials but wasnt sure if that was going too fgar for a beginner lol

[spare cloud]

You can solo a MOLE. It's far less efficient than a crewed MOLE, but makes more than a Prospector, as it can have 96 SCU and can break bigger rocks

[near swallow]

Mole can be used solo, but it means a lot of hopping between seats.

[spare cloud]

But it's a game of running around between pilot and mining seats

[mystic bolt]

is it a lot of hastle? or not that bad and kinda worth it?

[spare cloud]

Not too hard. Can ask in #rock-and-stone if you want more details, but we said most of it. Running around the ship from seat to seat is pretty much it.

[mellow pendant]

I can recommend adding this page to bookmarks if you're going into mining: https://redmonstergaming.com/mining-cheat-sheets/

[spare cloud]

It's all in pinned messages here too

Well, in #rock-and-stone actually

[reef smelt]

so i tried using sctrade.tools to see which places had the best deal on a commodity but both of the places it reccomended were completely out of the resource. so is there any other way to find a commodity and where to sell it without having to visit every single mining facility?

[spare cloud]

There is nothing that can track real time availability of commodities.
Going there and seeing for yourself is the only way

[devout shell]

hey com, the last time i tried trading, was 3.18

there was always no big buy options, because stock was small/empty, to fill my cargo ships, did this get better, can i fill a carterpiller for atleast 50% if i can effort the commodietis?

sorry for my bad english

[reef smelt]

are there any missions that will get me valuable cargo?

[spare cloud]

There are a lot of commodities with enough stocks to fill your whole ship.
Beryl from Ita to Lorville is a great and safe route, that will never run out of stock.

[spare cloud]

Top level bounties are often filled with very valuable drugs you can sell in scrap yards. As well as a bit of Quantainium and RMC sometimes.

[reef smelt]

cool, thanks

[main solstice]

so im thinking about buying several hull Cs and having people run them for me kinda like a convoy is that viable and would it work seeing as i have to finalize all the transactions

[tacit delta]

Scrap yards? What are scrapyards?

[tacit delta]

Long as they're in the party. My friend who has a Hull C said he doesn't actually have to store the Hull C's, as long as the Hull C is in PLEASE CONTACT ATC TO LAND range, he can just directly sell whatever is in the Hull C

[spare cloud]

Scrap yards, literally.
There's one per planet, 4 total.
Crusader's one is Brio's breaker yard, it's the most populated.

[spare cloud]

Well actually no.
Party or not, only ship owner can sell.

But it sounds cool tbh, it could work if you escort the hull C with a fast ship, just have the ppl flying them park it in the cargo area and only you land to reach to cargo terminal

Hard part is finding ppl for it

[tacit delta]

The ship owner is on TDD terminal

party member brings the Hull C nearby

[spare cloud]

Yes

Works this way

Think I got confused with the "he" in your sentence, thinking "he" was kinkytorchick's friends and not yours.

[tacit delta]

That requires you to buy the train of Hull Cs instead of having a train of contractors with their own Hull Cs tho

[spare cloud]

[devout shell]

well my trading journys are as alwys disapointment... now i have full cargo, but station want buy? what next?

ill try to deliver else where, but hm...

[mystic bolt]

Are there cargo contracts? Ive not looked before lol

[slate spruce]

Not yet, waiting for 3.23.x

[spare cloud]

UPS mail man contracts for now.

Big volume cargo contract like Vlasta said will come in 3.23.X

[devout shell]

is it the same with mining, i mean with selling ores? if i go out mini, could it happen, that the station doesnt buy it?

[spare cloud]

We have no idea what those contract will be like

[slate spruce]

Btw has someone who's seen 3.23.0 said anything about commodity price changes? Are they changing already, or waiting for the general cargo update?

[slate spruce]

Ores need to be sold in refinery directly, nowhere else

And they always buy

[spare cloud]

Unrefined ores, yeah

Refined ores are sold in TDDs, in cities

[slate spruce]

https://gallog.co/commodities - this might be a nice help to check max volumes that can be sold at given places (just account for the fact that they're counting in cSCU, so divide by 100)

[devout shell]

that sounds much better...

[slate spruce]

Under normal circumstances it's better to refine and sell processed ore in TDD (they are empty 99,99% of time for refined ores), but given that 3.23 with cleanup of consumables and refinery jobs is approaching, direct sell is a safer bet atm.

[honest grove]

I haven’t played in a couple months - how is the Hull C game play? Docking still broken? Loading and unloading still finicky?

[near swallow]

Don't think things have gotten much better for the Hull C yet. And proper runs for it will probably require multiple systems. (I see the larger Hull ships being more of an intersystem hauler rather then intrasystem.)

[swift sail]

Wait, does that mean i can sell to a space station (like port tressler) without landing on them? Does this also work with cities? Im flying a freelancer rn

[tacit delta]

IDK, he experimented with Hull C

[spring copper]

This is a function specific to the Hull C (at present), it uses an external "cargo loading area" instead of a landing pad, since it cannot land while carrying cargo.

[swift sail]

oh thats cool! thanks for letting me know 😄

[near swallow]

There is a chance you might able to sell cargo from one of the external landing pads at a station, but I have not tried that. (Most stuff I haul I wouldn't be able to sell to a station.)

[willow tiger]

When do you think the Railen will be out?

[olive gull]

not on 3.23, lets hope some news about it for the Alien Week in June

but 3.23 brings the San'Tok purchase available in game, Syulen too

[jagged wedge]

anyone know how long until demand for rmc at microtech resets?

been waiting for ages

just not coming into demand

[spare cloud]

Shops refresh every 5 minutes or so but it takes a lot of refresh for a reset.

I'd recommend you simply avoid NB and Lorville

Try A18 and Orison instead

[jagged wedge]

if i sell at a18 will i lose any profit?

[spare cloud]

No

[jagged wedge]

alr ima do that then thanks

cba waiting

[uncut flare]

Whats the most profitable cargo route that isnt always out of stock?

[spare cloud]

RMC

Always has stock. Only issue is selling at NB or Lorville. Go to A18 or Orison instead

[uncut flare]

Where can i buy this?

[spare cloud]

See on !tradetools ⬇️

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[uncut flare]

Thanks

[near swallow]

Problem with RMC is that pirates know it's the most profitable trade commodity too.

[uncut flare]

Is it a high probablility to die if i try to trade?

[spare cloud]

Somewhat high

[slate spruce]

It's not a netfix and chill operation. Wear headphones, be alert, scan, land close to terminal and only if alone, after buying just run for it, and don't qt directly between buy and sale locations.

[near swallow]

I've never done RMC trading myself, I've stuck with Beryl which is safer but does not give you as much profit. Also costs a lot less, which is both a positive (easier to get into) and negative. (less profit overall)

[jagged wedge]

lmao i legit just mute sc and just cargo run rmc with youtube/netflix

boring ash without it

[slate spruce]

It has already happened twice to me on Pickers that someone started shooting at me when I was loaded and leaving. Luckily the C2 is sturdy and I jumped out with only minor dmg.
Plus one quantum snare between mT and Arccorp, but I was flying Pisces atm, so I just f-ed off before they could react.

[near swallow]

In contrast, transporting Beryl was normally pretty routine. Only tense trip was one time when someone took the local com array down, but it probably didn't have anything to do with me. (Especially considering my ship was parked at an LZ in hard armistice.) I took extra precautions on that run though.

Only interdictions (snares) I've encountered were done by NPCs, and I'll fight them off. Has yet to happen when I've actually got cargo though. (Last time I got interdicted, I was in my Hornet Mk2 after having just changed the weapon layout a bit. Taking them out was fun, even though the Hornet Mk2 seems like it has a small capacitor.)

[light relic]

RmC is nice, was clear yesterday, I lost all my cash tho yesterday due to a server crash 🙂

[versed moon]

never spend more than 50% of your money

specially on Cargo

[light relic]

Yea, you think I'd know that from playing eve 🙂

I wouldn't have minded if I was attacked and lost ot but to a server crash, I have 9k left so should be able to make it back in my vulture

[low cipher]

Idea: Doing long quantum jumps puts strain on the engineering stuff, so even if you're a lone hauler there is some engineering gameplay to do. Think it's likely?

[limpid sluice]

@abstract galleon this is what hull c trading typically looks like right now, if that helps you at all?

[near swallow]

Have not looked into the engineering AC stuff on EPTU, but it would not surprise me if CIG sets things up so that things are failing every 5-10 minutes or so, regardless what you are or aren't doing. Just to give engineers something to do on otherwise uneventful trips.

[low cipher]

Sounds fun

[dusty thistle]

Looking for someone with Hull C to make 6M ish trade route 50/50 split of profits

[spare cloud]

Ask in #looking-for-session

[dusty thistle]

ook

[next lance]

Hey question what are you selling, I just bought and then sold diamond but I think I either didnt get profit or barley did

[olive gull]

try with RMC

[next lance]

whats RMC

Nvm i see

[next lance]

How much you think I can make with the Constellation andromeda

[olive gull]

use this tool, will let you select the ship and the credits inversion !tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[olive gull]

oh wait, u already have it xD

[olive gull]

it tells u what and where to get

[next lance]

What page is that on

and so basically If I buy 96 SCU to fill the ship at stanton for 243k and then sell it at hurston I will make about a mil?

( im still new sorry for being a little slow )

[olive gull]

Trade routes

[next lance]

for initial investment I just put however much I can spend

[olive gull]

try to avoid Microtec or Lorville for selling. Go to A18 or Orison instead

[next lance]

ok

[wraith ice]

What anime you watching?

[olive gull]

currently, this one:

[violet wharf]

How much can you make gathering ERT cargo these days? I'm working on leveling my bounty hunting to unlock ERTs. seems a risk free fun way of making millions quickly besides salvage atm

[spare cloud]

Up to 4-6 mils in a single ERT if you find a lucky 890J

[violet wharf]

I saw like 4 months ago it was a lot more profitable. IMO I think bounties should stay more popular so pirates gravitate towards them and not cargo runners or salvagers

[spare cloud]

Wouldn't make a lot of sense for pirates to play around bounty hunters when they could attack industrial players

"I think murderers should attack trained police officers and not average people they chose for they weaknesses"

[light relic]

Do people have any issues with pirates? I've been attacked once while traveling to jump town and they all lost anyways 🙂

[spare cloud]

At least all the random C2s I've murdered the past week

[light relic]

I've considered it just to experience all aspects of the game but not sure I'd my ghost will cut it 🙂

[spare cloud]

My F8C is struggling to kill Hercules before they reached QT altitude and fly away. So F7C alone won't do

Inferno would kill them in no time, but I want to keep flying my F8

And I can better defend myself from bounty hunters

[light relic]

I've been looking at inferno, wondering if it's worth swapping my ghost to one but not sure,

[spare cloud]

I personally wouldn't for this specific gameplay

For PvE yeah, Inferno is incredible

[light relic]

I've heard it's great for PVE,

I'd rather somthing that well rounded for both pvp/pve but the inferno does look lovely

[spare cloud]

There's not really a thing that's good for both PvP and PvE, but we can tell you more about it in #flight-combat-racing if you want

[swift sail]

why avoid these 2? Just curios

[light relic]

Close by so most people will go there to sell

[spare cloud]

Which means lots of waiting time to sell cause they're always full on stocks

[winged musk]

Can someone explain how this is any diferent from cargo hauling we're alreayd doing?

[olive gull]

the diff is that we didn't had a mission for it before, is useful for newbies: "Go there and bring this.." easy enough, question remain is: will it be the best option? i mean, profitable?

[spare cloud]

Same thing but cargo is likely not yours, so you don't have to invest crazy money, but you also have to load cargo in the ship yourself

[winged musk]

I mean we still have cargo hauling to its purest extent of going to get boxes and deliver them somewhere, and we also had the cargo hauling of buying yout entire cargo worth of crap and selling it somewhere else...

But yeah having missions for the second part of it is nice.

[winged musk]

Ok..What I cannot wait for, is the possiblity to put shit in the station inventory or something similar...

Like when you have your cargo full and printer full, it sucks to run to sell, run back, make box, box them, run back to sell, run back to ship. Wish I could box them all and store them in my hangar and then sell from it

[spare cloud]

That won't be 3.23 btw

Was removed and now targetted for 3.23.X

[winged musk]

yeah I know it wont be there..I dont think what I want is gonna at all either

[peak wyvern]

When the freight elevators are in, I think you have to unload to them before selling, otherwise it's just majic unloading, which you would pay extra and wait for so npcs do it for you. So unloading, printing, unloading the rest is the idea.

[slate spruce]

That will be honestly a great vulture QoL improvement

[lost bluff]

vulture is salvage

why do people always discuss salvage ship and mining stuff in here

[slate spruce]

Bcs those are closely related. Both salvage and mining effectively produce cargo. With freight elevators the way its delivered to final destination will change significantly.

[jagged wedge]

After 2 days of cargo running:

[olive gull]

now pray 3.23 doesnt comes with a money wipe 😋

[jagged wedge]

hopefully not

[olive gull]

but 30m in 2 days is impresive, GZ

[jagged wedge]

yeah

RMC running is crazy

Hurs to A18 is so good 1.7M each time

and demand is always good

[drowsy kettle]

just found out you cant sell recycled material composite to new babbage

guess who also found out you can mysteriously teleport ontop of a tram and get killed by it

[near swallow]

You can sell RMC at NB's TDD, as long as it's not full.

[drowsy kettle]

there are multiple terminals, damn

i went to the admin thing

[tacit delta]

New cabbage is one of the best, the terminals are so close together

Lorville you gotta take the train

[boreal marten]

what were you running?

[light relic]

Rmc he said

[uneven grove]

What is the best way to run RMC without getting pirated?

[spare cloud]

Fly away if you see any ship.

[light relic]

Look at what ships are there if there's combat don't land,

I've done a few runs now and there's not been anyone there

[jagged wedge]

i got the carrack such a good ship

also you'll need to have 7.4mill to get 1.7M per run

it's worth it

I buy at hurs and sell at A18

faster then Microtech to Arcorp

7.6Mill*

[vestal ravine]

Wipe rumors active, may affect the C2

[long breach]

Mixed feelings on a wipe.. on one hand, I've only had my carrack for 2 days.. on the other hand.. want.. endless.. progress

It needs to happen.. I'll just grind it again! Pledging a vulture was a clutch move for sure

[spare cloud]

They're wiping aUEC.

[jagged wedge]

and ships?

or just auec

[long breach]

I don't think anyone really knows for sure do they?

[spare cloud]

Just money

[spare cloud]

Announced this hour

[long breach]

Oh neat! Thanks for the leak then! I'm essentially broke after the carrack anyway lol bring it on!

[jagged wedge]

alr ima buy another ship then

[vestal ravine]

Then another rumor the C2 capacity reduced by 200 scu...

[jagged wedge]

ill just use my carrack for cargo then

no point of the C2

[vestal ravine]

The C2 is more useful overall.

[north oyster]

The wipe isn't going to affect the cargo capacity of a ship, can you tell me where you got the info about the C2 getting an almost 30% capacity nerf?

[north oyster]

I think that they will also include a wipe of all in-game purchased ships (maybe, they used the word "rentals")

I'll go buy a couple of extra ships just in case they don't wipe the in-game ships, but thinking they will

[spare cloud]

!wipe ⬇️

[wary tusk]

Announced aUEC and ship **RENTAL** wipe for 3.23 <a:ChrisExcite:834882984746287154>

• Confirmed aUEC and ship RENTAL (NOT PURCHASED) wipe in 3.23 (Seems like everything else will carry over unless CIG clarifies and adds onto it later)
• Things may change as we get closer to 3.23 release

Stop worrying about wipes!

[north oyster]

I found that funny because rentals are always wiped

Good info on the update though

[spare cloud]

I do think they shouldn't even have mentioned "rental ships" as they're already part of what's always wiped, with ammunitions, refinery orders and other consumables

[spare cloud]

Exactly right ? Why add it

[north oyster]

Okay, now to go on a buying spree

[near swallow]

One other thing that I think is odd, they talked about not being able to change your home location with 3.23.x, yet every patch I've had to select a home location. So maybe they're too busy working on the game to play it much?

Not counting hotfixes.

[somber bay]

If they can update without doing a character reset then you won’t be able to change it

[tulip veldt]

Hello new to the discord jumping back into SC. So I in-game purchased an Aurora CL so I could not take out my freelancer all the time. Am I missing something or is the CL cargo box just missing ? I would assume this is a common pledge starter ship.

[olive gull]

you have to buy the container that will magnetically hold from the cargo

can get the containers at the cargo area of any station, same elevator that takes you to the Galery has an option for Cargo area

[scenic plume]

Aurora has an external grid that boxes stick to underneath the rear of the ship.

[tulip veldt]

But. Not packages. I need to buy one of these storage boxes first right ?

[olive gull]

yes, and perhaps the items you were looking for are in the ship's local inventory? you can acces it pressing I while standing in the ship, or whit a menu option at the entry point

[scenic plume]

Hand held packages or items you can store in inventory?
The 1/8 SCU packaged for hand-held delivery missions can be stored in your front cab.

If it's items you can store in your inventory like guns and stuff, you can either access them from the ship inventory or by attaching a store all crate to your grate and accessing the crate.

[tulip veldt]

I somehow detracted my aurora’s rack assembly these boxes snap to. lol

[raven hatch]

Hey all, I'm coming back from 3.18 and I hear a fair bit of balancing has changed. Back then, a good way to make cash quick was in trading goods like gold. Is that still the case or has there been enough changes to the loops that there's a less boring while being equally lucrative method? (I haven't tried salvage yet and I'm not sure I want to go down that rabbit hole yet)

[spare cloud]

There's RMC now, that is more rewarding, faster, but also riskier

Buy point isn't in an armistice zone

[raven hatch]

RMC? What's that?

[olive gull]

REcycled Materials

[raven hatch]

Oh! Recycled Material Composite. Gotcha. Yeah, that seems to have taken the top place in the loops.

Does it tend to be available?

[olive gull]

look at !tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[raven hatch]

Thanks! I used to use it quite a bit.

Thanks for the tips. Is there a different gameplay loop that is more lucrative right now?

[olive gull]

if you are on 3.22 the meta is Reclaimer Salvaging

[spare cloud]

It always is.

Just don't sell in Lorvile or NB

[visual night]

Is there anywhere besides Grim to sell recovered cargo (CM)? Picked up 640 scus from a GameRules and went to 3 different Ls before I gave up

[spare cloud]

Only a few Lagrange stations buy CM, but they're lawful places. The no questions asked terminals won't buy CM, so GH is the only place for stolen cargo

[visual night]

That's kinda what I thought, but a pirate in game called me an idiot for not knowing it could sell elsewhere. Unless they were talking about other cargo.

Even at Grim, I have to click outside the box to sell, so wasn't sure if that worked elsewhere

Also, I prefer "liberated cargo"

[near swallow]

That pirate probably didn't think you were talking about "unregistered" CM.

[tacit delta]

Don't scrapyards buy CM?

[visual night]

Brio's did not, although it could have been no demand at the time I landed

[tacit delta]

Did it say "Cannot sell" or "no demand"?

They're separate categories

[visual night]

Cannot sell, last category

[visual night]

He was auctioning off the ship for someone to unload, I assumed it was CM but I could have been wrong. He was a jerk about it so I didn't inquire further

[tacit delta]

Oh that's different

[raven sapphire]

Got 2.400.000 to blow on ship as a noob . Only have my starter package CUTTER and a VULTURE . Wanted a cargo ship before the wipe. any advice?

[tacit delta]

Cargo?

[visual night]

Save 1.6mil more and get a C2? Or a Corsair for less cargo but more firepower, especially for 3.23

[tacit delta]

Get a C2 for cargo because it has 660 SCU

Wages go down and prices go up in 3.23 Capitalism

Rather than blowing 2.4 mil, keep working as hard as you can now and grab a Commoner 2 Starlifter before it becomes Bourgeoisie 2 Starlifter

Of course, there's always a possibility CIG does an oopsie and wiped everything clean

[visual night]

FYI C2 fit 640 total with 24 or 32 scu containers, the rest of the grid has to be filled with smaller sizes

[tacit delta]

Yea but if you buy from terminal they're all flush fit right

[visual night]

My burgeoning fleet really hopes this isn't the case, I won't be able to afford the 890 after 3.23

[tacit delta]

Yea but that's the point

Commoners are not supposed to be able to afford the Nice Ships

[visual night]

Yeah true, trading you can fill it up vs taking bounty cargo gotta be more creative

[tacit delta]

tbf playing Tetris is like, one of the most awesome part of cargo

Nothing like seeing a job well done when you managed to fit the entire goddamn thing

[visual night]

Agreed, it's a nice break from action. As long as containers aren't falling through the hull when you move them

[tacit delta]

The best part of Salvage in Reclaimer isn't the Power Wash Simulator At Home
It's playing Tetris with 16 SCU blocks 🤟

[visual night]

I've definitely blown one up by trying to cram too much too quick, turned me off from being a box helper for a bit

[tacit delta]

Server issue

[visual night]

Yep it was probably below 5 sfps when it happened

[tacit delta]

Server is always dying, I just don't get how it can report "10fps" but nothing gets done

One moment server is like
Nyet! Box is fine!
next moment box is like:

[paper reef]

So I own the vulture and Constellation Taurus… what else should I buy with 8 mil?

I want the reclaimer but might wallet wipe before I earn the 15 mil

So I want to buy something else instead…

[tacit delta]

you mean for cargo?

you can try caterpillar.... I guess?

or C2, but that's obvious

[scenic plume]

If you haven't gotten one, grab a C2 or one of the other Hercs.

They're all going up quite a bit.

[tacit delta]

I got myself an A2 just because

[lost bluff]

696 tf did you guys get 640 and 660 from

a2 is mainly just for bombing and hauling vehicles its not worth touching for cargo

[visual night]

696 total if trading at terminals. If you have uniform 16/24/32 scu boxes, there are slivers you can't fit the cargo

I got 640 from literally stuffing it full from a reclaimer and not having any more grid to snap

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/18wttjj/322_ship_cargo_grid_reference_sheet/

[tacit delta]

Honestly the crime of Reclaimer is it can't print 4 SCU boxes

[upbeat crater]

whats the best route with no supply/demand issues rn?

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[spare cloud]

Beryl is the safe one. RMC the most rewarding and risky one

[north oyster]

The fastest trade would be Hephaestanite from Baijini Point to Area 18. In a C2, that's about 250K profit in 20 minutes (from login to TDD). Hephaestanite gives you about the same margin as Beryl. If Baijini gets short, which it can, then Pyro Gateway has unlimited supply. Safe route, good coin

But like Walking said, Beryl is a solid

[near swallow]

Ita->Orison (for Cat) and SAL-5 to Orison (MAX) Beryl runs are where the bulk of my money came from with respect to commodity trading.

The RMC runs I did were Dunboro->Orison but with indirect routing. I got lucky in that the only active ship I encountered doing that in my Cat was a C2 that I assume also came in for RMC and did not blow up my Cat. (One of my trips home actually got a bit of a shortcut in the form of a 30k, my ship got stored with cargo at Orison.)

[lost bluff]

why do people post salvage related things in cargo and trading

there is a salvage and mining section for a reason

[visual night]

Why is ERT cargo, or stolen player cargo, explicitly salvage and not cargo?

A C2 is relevant for trading but also manually packing cargo, if you care about cross functionality

[lost bluff]

you guys are talking about salvage and salvage functions including the issues of not being able to print certain size from a salvage ship for specific storage

hauling is its own game loop

salvage is a sep game loop

[visual night]

So this channel should be hauling and trading?

I don't own a reclaimer, I've just taken their cargo

[lost bluff]

I can honestly call hauling armor hauling weapons gaining and hauling mineral hauling everything under the sun

but heres the thing

there are actual defined game loops

mining isnt the hauling game loop even though you aquire minerals to haul

you guys are discussing printing and filling

Not asking about where to buy and sell stuff

[visual night]

My question started off about selling liberated cargo, a where to sell CM question. There was a tiny tangent about what reclaimers can do, relevant to that.

Seems a little much to be upset over but ok, no one will ever discuss salvage capabilities in this channel. It is spoken.

[lost bluff]

ask trading and hauling here. if you guys begin discussion about general salvage head to the salvage channel

[slate spruce]

Feel free to discuss it further 😉 industry activities are closely related to cargo transfer (and will be even more after 3.23.x), it doesn't make sense to jump between channels. Having fun and getting help from the community is more important.

[lost bluff]

if you feel they should be combined id suggest it to mods

but tbh sep game loops

[slate spruce]

Imho they are different game loops with overlap. Stuff distinctly belonging to only one area should be discussed in that channel, stuff from the overlap is ok to be discussed in either of the channels.

[scenic plume]

Cargo is cargo

[lost bluff]

//

[marble pilot]

is there anywhere I can sell rmc except the major cities?

[tropic swallow]

Requesting Emergency Refuelling Services

[tropic swallow]

We good

[visual night]

Salvage yards, Grim or planets afaik (lowest to highest price)

CM is more flexible, Ls Bajini and cities take it. https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Recycled Material Composite

[hollow yarrow]

I'm so looking forward to hauling missions. I hope we get missions with like 1k cargo that can be completed as a group. I wanna fly in a convoy of space truckers!

[near swallow]

Going to have to wait for a bit though since those will be in 3.23.x not 3.23.0

[hollow yarrow]

You're not wrong, still looking forward to space truckin' !

[final hinge]

"Back in my days we had roads to haul on, kids these days just hit the quantum drive and watch Netflix "

[olive gull]

i hit the QT and watch TikTok xD

[soft mantle]

I finished the whole of invincible season 2 while hauling

And then lost all the money because chris roberts said so

[north oyster]

I lost about a billion in aUEC on one wipe a couple of years ago, so it's all good

[shut flax]

Yeah let's face it a wipe needs to come though. (Reclaimer was broken) I mean iv only been playing since .22 released. And I have every ship in game bought w auec w best in slot parts and still have 600m in my bank. I mean I can make 20m a night in 3 hrs.

[north oyster]

Well, if it's only aUEC and everyone bought and splurged on ships, then it won't offer too good of a matrix for the CIG team to analyze the game economy. But that's just my speculation. I agree with you ... a full clean reset of the whole game, maybe less reputation, but even that would be good also.

[tacit delta]

Yeah but they don't need to do that this patch

I'd argue considering they're changing the flight model, having a lot of people using a wide variety of ships seems like a very good idea

[robust axle]

i just upgraded to the hull c and realized its super slow in qt and reccomendations on what drives to run

[visual night]

I always opt for the TS-2 for size 3, Orison or CRU L5

[olive gull]

this one seems the best option, reduces your jump from 9 to 3 mins

[robust axle]

thanks

[north oyster]

good point

[shut flax]

Except I'm pretty sure ships are wiping too. They said rentals, but pretty sure anything not pledged w usd is considered a rental. Cause I mean honestly how you going to test when everyone already has everything. And by announcing auec wipe everyone is splurging on ship now. But watch come .23 we going to have just pledged ships.

[north oyster]

Agreed

[olive gull]

Agree, Ship Wipe is necessary to properly balance the economy, also they made A LOT of changes on ships

[final hinge]

Hi guys, i got a question for y'all, are the 8SCU boxes destroyable? You see i'm in a bit of a pickle, i was putting away boxes in my reclaimer when one of them disappeared. I thought oh well on doesnt matter and went on with my business, that motherfucker had the nerve to spawn in the middle of the corridor and i cannot access the pilot room

Found an alternative way through the airlock, damn bastard

Lol

[warm totem]

That is a wierd event, not sure how you solve that

[fossil atlas]

for this, what would be the best route? i have never done cargo before. in a hull c with 2 million

would buying distilled spirits at terra mills hydrofarm then selling at seraphim station work?

[serene wasp]

Technically anything that gives you profit works

Just find the thing that gives you a big profit like a bigger difference between buy price and sell price

The website makes it easy

But for the most used stuff you'd probably have to wait because if people are selling it then every station is going to have a full inventory of it so you cant sell it and have to wait

So choose some lesser selling material to have a smoother sale

[fossil atlas]

hull c didn't seem to work there (unless we did something wrong)
so we went to a station
then to another station and got around 300k for it

[spring copper]

The Hull C is limited to trading at LEO stations and jump points (which SCTrade helpfully won't tell you; it just uses the ship selector to check cargo space).
This image shows the best commodities to trade along each route the Hull C can carry cargo on.

[stiff vine]

Awesome, thanks for sharing that 🍻

[tight burrow]

Im in New , trying to get all my "local" inventory loaded. I have a Mining laser I don't need. Where do I go to sell it?

It won't go in my ships invetory

New Babbage

[slate spruce]

If it's the basic Arbor, then afaik nobody buys that. Other types can be sold at places that sell them (Shubin mining in NB). The laser itself is iirc pretty big, maybe it just won't fit into smaller ships inventory

[tight burrow]

MH 1 Mining Laser

[slate spruce]

Shubin mining in NB Commons should be buying that

[tight burrow]

It's not in any of the inventory to sell

I just want to clear out all the garbage, and put everything into a central station.

[slate spruce]

You need the money for that laser? If not, equip it on a ship with no modules, fly offworld, unlock ports, go outside with tractor beam on multitool, remove the laser and yeet it to oblivion.

[tight burrow]

So after riding the NEW BABBAGE Tram for about 12 loops, I finally get on my ship with all the gear I wanted to keep. I barely get out the doors and some JACKWAGON slams me causing me to crash. The ship wasn't destroyed. I survived.

But now all that gear on the ship is still on that ship, because when I spawned a new one...
No gear inside my ship.

I'm currently just sitting inside the new Titan, and cannot get any baydoors or Pilots seats to open so I can switch it out.

Do I have to destroy the old ship to get all that gear back?

I'm getting really fed up trying to get to play, when this is always glitching

[visual night]

You'd have to find the old ship and unload the inventory. Claims create a "new" ship, only equipped components like ship weapons/QD come with the new one

[tight burrow]

I've the old ship, but I can't get any of the doors to open

[visual night]

Ahh yeah it's not your ship anymore, you can shoot the back hatch and force it open usually. If it's a titan

[tight burrow]

I'm freezing my puh-took-kiss off out here

It's -88° C thays flipping cold y'all

[tight burrow]

Can't shoot it because I'm still inside the no shoot range

[spare cloud]

Why did you take the tram this many time ? The city inventory can be accessed from everywhere around the center in a 20km radius or so. You could've just stand in your ship and click "Move all"

Also since you claimed a new Titan, you lost ownership of the last one. Destroy it, and it'll spawn a box with your loot inside.

[tight burrow]

It wasn't that simple. I relogged several flipping times, just trying to to get back to the spaceport after selling the stuff I didn't want.

I've tried shooting it and it won't fire, the only other thing I can think of is Kamakazi

And at this point I dint care if it works

[tight burrow]

Destroyed both ships, now to see if all that gears is pasted across the landscape or if I lost it all

[tight burrow]

Acquired a crimestat, yay me

That still doesn't help that I got slammed exiting the hanger from another ship, crashing, and not able to get into that ships inventory.

[olive gull]

you cant get the inventory of anyone's ship but your own, perhaps you mean Cargo Area? if so, and you saw nothing then that ship had no cargo

[tight burrow]

Even after maneuvering the new ship so I could open the cargo

[tight burrow]

It was an Avenger Titan, supposedly I could shoot the door to getvit open, only problem is, there a no weapons that close to the hanger, even if I'm on the outside in -89° C

[olive gull]

Arminstice Zones are a pain huh?, but they also protect you form others... Sometimes...

[north oyster]

If you have not spent your aUEC, you may want to do that now

[tight burrow]

Still doesn't help me get all that cool XMAS LOGIN stuff I lost.

I've been in New Babbage trying to leave with that gear since 12pm EST. ITS now 1700

[olive gull]

what's stoping ya?

[north oyster]

"leave with gear" ... what mean

[tight burrow]

Flipping lag

Read all my last from the past 5 hours

[olive gull]

go to Menu and choos a different Server

[north oyster]

oh, yeah, that was the stopper for 3.23 because of the entity graph issue

[tight burrow]

10 logins every server, still crap

[north oyster]

if the stuff is attributed to your account, you should be good

[olive gull]

that's exactly why i stopped playing on Live once the 3.23 EPTU opened, the gameplay at EPTU is so smoot that you believe you are on a different game

that may change when it goes live tho...

[north oyster]

it literally is a different game in many aspects

[olive gull]

but for now i only play the EPTU

[north oyster]

I have since it came to EVO

but it was terrible back then, LOL

[olive gull]

figure

[north oyster]

certainly is pretty cool to watch it evolve into what they have now

[tight burrow]

Nope, none of the Login is in the inventory, personal or ship

[olive gull]

what are you looking for? the lost Xmas stuff?

[tight burrow]

And yes I logged put and back in again just for funzies

I even tried going out to where I Kamakazied both ships, nothing.

[olive gull]

move on, nothing there to be found

[balmy kelp]

c2 cargo is now 2.xx scus? less than 3 scu?? lol

i cant briong all my stuff to grim hex

[mossy topaz]

whats the new trading meta

[olive gull]

if by 'cargo' you mean the internal inventory, which is very different to the Cargo Grid, then yes, they severely nerfed the inventory of all ships

[visual night]

Buy an 8 scu crate (or 10), transfer everything into those and the upstairs storage

[crimson oak]

Yeah I'm trying to figure that out myself right now. I'm used to moving all my stuff in my C2 from my residence in Orison over to Grimhex where I like to base myself out of. Yet now I notice my C2 has 2.8 scu...

[crimson oak]

Where can you buy these 10 scu crates? Are they big enough to transport ship components? How do you spawn them ingame after buying? drag and drop from the inventory to the cargo grid or something? last time i played you had to blow your ship up that had a certain amount in its inventory to physically spawn in a large SCU crate like that.

[visual night]

Cargo deck of seraphim has them, only up to 8 scu. Not sure which ship weapons/components will fit

[crimson oak]

Seraphim is the old Port Olisar right?

[visual night]

Above Orison. I think any station above a planet port has a Cargo deck with them

But yes the container goes to station inventory, stand in your c2 cargo and drag from inventory to the drop icon. Then use a multi tool to snap to grid

[olive gull]

no, Olistar doesnt exist anymore, Seraphin is its replacement

[crimson oak]

Thank you very much, sounds like a plan!

weird i gotta go all the way up there to move stuff from a big city like orison

watching a youtube video on the cargo changes now, looks like most of the stuff hasn't been implemented yet though.

[visual night]

Yeah there is a cargo center on Providence Platform, but at least in 3.22 there was only one crate you could buy. Don't think it had the 8 scu size

[crimson oak]

I may give that a look first then.

god i hope they're big enough for ship components and weapons, missiles/torpedoes etc, all my crap basically.

[visual night]

On the way to Admin from the shuttle. It also did not have big tractors, although maybe that changed

[crimson oak]

do you need that bigger tractor beam to move the bigger scu containers?

i have plenty of those hand held multitool gadgets

[visual night]

I'm pretty sure the multi tool works, especially on the 8 scu size. Just shorter range and not as maneuverable

[olive gull]

no you dont, multitool can handle everything, the big tracktor beam is really overpriced

[crimson oak]

cheers

[balmy kelp]

have you trioed putting stuff like jump drives, shields, power plants? i have over 200 of those in total that need to be moved

[karmic vigil]

Wow. it seems impossible to move Vehicle parts since C2's inventory got reduced and the biggest SCU box you can buy is a 8SCU box but for example a Durango Power Plant is 756000k uSCU. Anyone has any tips? I'm trying to move some goods to other planets to sell.

[crimson oak]

no not yet

[balmy kelp]

@ me if it works if you think about it. lol. Gl man

[crimson oak]

oh ill definitely be trying to at some point, once i work up the patience and the energy to try playing agian.

read this on reddit:
"So all ships have their magic internal storage reduced and components have some weird storage size now. So can’t use containers to haul ship components yet ( tried the 8scu) for the small ship component but not the large or medium ones . I think 16 and 32 scu are the key but they are not in yet. So can’t move gear from ships like before. Now u gotta buy em install them on ship and fly them out"

"They reduced internal ship storage to almost not existing, because we are supposed to use the new freight elevators to pack modules and co. to big containers and then load them into the ship using the cargo grid. But then they removed freight elevators from 3.23 initial release and here we are."

so yeah it may just not be possible to move ship components in cargo/inventory, for the time being atleast. We might need 16/32SCU containers to do that, which they didn't release yet. I'll try later on none the less.

[karmic vigil]

Yeah. This is a mess.

Seraphim was my home so moving all my stuff from Orison is going to be a nightmare. Last patch, 3 trips on the C2 would do the trick, now I can't even load one powerplant to the ship the size is too big.

[crimson oak]

I used to be able to move everything, including like... 10 different ship fits worth of modules, missiles and torpedoes in one c2 run

been a while since i last played though

[near swallow]

If you're not trying to move hundreds of components around just to sell them, you could equip components onto ships in order to move them.

[crimson oak]

yeah thats the only real viable alternative

[near swallow]

The real problem is that when they bumped freight elevators to 3.23.x, they didn't make it so you can drop components.

[crimson oak]

what do you mean drop components?

[near swallow]

If you could drop them, then you could physically load them into a ship.

I mean drop them on the hangar floor.

And move around via tractor beam.

[crimson oak]

ah right

last time i tried looting physical ship weapons like that from wrecks, you'd never be able to actually store it anywhere in inventory

you could physically move them into your cargo but not store it in inventory

[near swallow]

In theory, you could take a component from a wreck, put it into one of your own ships, then remove it via loadout manager.

I've also had a ship weapon get moved to local inventory after I abandoned it in a hangar. 🙂

It was one I picked up from a moon but couldn't sell

[crimson oak]

theres a lot of weird stuff in this game i've seen but couldn't really explain

[near swallow]

I hear that. I mean, at one point in 3.22 the game seemed to think I was an elevator.

[crimson oak]

you don't identify as a meat popsicle then

[near swallow]

It was a crazy bug. I was trying to use an elevator but couldn't interact with the control panel. Then suddenly the game was moving me to another location, leaving the elevator behind. I couldn't see myself or do anything, and then I was in another elevator, and started the sequence again before being moved to another elevator.

[crimson oak]

better than the suicide booth's some elevators used to be i guess.

[mossy topaz]

is anyone trading yet?

[olive gull]

trading with 25k?? lol, no, not yet

[weak wharf]

Is there any way to sell armor in bulk?

[spare cloud]

Not chests and legs

Since they have an inventory, they can't be stacked.

[plucky bolt]

cargo route for hull c?

[spare cloud]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[plucky bolt]

isn't the HULL C orbit trading only?

[spare cloud]

Space trading only, yes. The image I sent shows most (all?) of the available trading points.

You can use filters in tradetools to only have space locations

[narrow kettle]

anyone wanna tell me how sc-trade.tools works? where do I sell exactly? I guess that I buy at Rayari

but where to sell ?

wait I'm stupid xD

[spare cloud]

At the TDD in A18

[narrow kettle]

read the message below 😄

[spare cloud]

Fact that you're stupid doesn't tell me you found the answer

[narrow kettle]

Fair enough 😄

[north oyster]

Built my 20K aUEC to 300K this morning running quick small trades. Also sold a few QT engines that I had extra

[sage warren]

i did a 10k cargo mission, was in no armistice zone but i got shot at so i died... tried to do a waste mission, got trespasssed and died... what am i doing wrong!! im new sry

also i couldnt shoot back in the no armistice zone so idk what the game wanted me to do

could use advice 🙂

[round jungle]

Hello, I just bought gold but nowhere to sell them? usually TDD buys them off me. same thing happen with CM and RMC when i try go sell them in their specific terminals. is this just a bug or me being dumb?

[vestal ravine]

Some sort of glitch. I would store ship, log off, log in to a new region, see what happens.

[candid jetty]

Anyone know how much a single Kopian Horn sells for on average? Not an SCU, a single horn. And also nowhere is letting me sell the ones I've gathered.

[silver birch]

I just bought cargo, on screen showing 45% loaded but when I retrieve ship, ship is empty

Even fly to destination and nothing there to sell

What to do

[rocky halo]

anyone know where i can offload these medical supplies in 23. I went on trade tools but every place i went to on the list said it wasnt sellable

[spare cloud]

Did it say Cannot sell or No demand ?

[rocky halo]

no demand

[spare cloud]

So they buy it.
But like in .22, they only buy very small volume.

You have to keep refreshing the terminal and sell small bits everytime

[rocky halo]

ahh okay got it

[spare cloud]

That's why medical supplies are meh

[rocky halo]

thanks i was in a groove too lol

[hallow spire]

can you sell sell construction materials at distro centers?

[turbid blade]

How does trading feel this patch for yall? I've been checking all the combat based missions and salvaging and by and large its either unchanged or just worse earnings.

[silver birch]

At this time i lost money as cargo didnt load up on ship

So i did misson and will try again

[near swallow]

Only store kiosk I've seen at a DC did not seem to be properly functional yet.

Right now it seems DCs are basically places for people on the wrong side of the law to go kill people, or something like that.

[nova plank]

Selling Cargo at major ports still broken or are is it "ok"?

[fast bloom]

hi i just baught this game and i wanna get into cargo, how do i begin? sorry for the stupid question

i have a 300i which seems to have a cargo hold but dont know how this really works

[delicate girder]

Are Beryl runs the same in 3.23 or have they been nerfed too.

[delicate girder]

Yes, it's has 12 SCU duesn't it?

[fast bloom]

how do i check

[delicate girder]

Erkul.games

[fast bloom]

on website it says 8 cargo capacity

[delicate girder]

Oh, ok. That's not bad for a small ship. The only small ship with more is a Nomad.

[fast bloom]

i play alone so its ok that i have a small ship

its my first day playing lol i havent done much yet just made it to seraphim space station and made it my residence

[coarse ember]

been hauling rmc all day and almost at 3 mil to buy a srv since thats in-game now, did give some auec away to org for a location/item hunt tho

[olive gull]

nooooo!! DO NOT waste your money on the SRV, i own one and planning to melt it because its one and only mission is now worthless

im waiting till Invictus to melt it

[olive gull]

well then, Welcome to the Verse Cole ^_^

[delicate girder]

Where did you sell the RMC and CM? I just came all the way to Area 18 to sell it and I can't sell hardly any RMC and it's a crap price. Can't sell the CM at all.

[olive gull]

when everybody has the same idea than you, then places get out of Stock or Demand, you gotta go elsewhere or wait for the demand to go up, no way to tell when

go to Orison

[delicate girder]

Can't sell CM there either.

SC Trade Tools was wrong I think. It said I should go to Area 18 to sell both.

[olive gull]

a place that always takes everything you got is Grim Hex, however it has its dangers

[fast bloom]

ty the game looks and feels great... i just dont know what im doing lmao

[delicate girder]

If you request landing at GH and log out to the menu before landing will it still "land" your ship? Can't remember.

Any tricks to make the RMC power washing sim any more time efficient. It's really painful.

[tired isle]

Salvage or just trading?

[coarse ember]

started off with salvage until i had about 500k then started trading

[left obsidian]

is cargo hauling any different now?

[delicate girder]

That's the same plan I had. Is hauling still as good? For instance are Beryl runs still as good?

[coarse ember]

Haven't tried Beryl only rmc so far but you can use this site, I think it updates a few times a day
https://uexcorp.space/commodities/info/name/beryl/

It's also available as a web app you can pin on your task bar for quick access

[delicate girder]

Is it more up-to-date than SC Trade Tools?

[coarse ember]

Not sure, just checked and it was updated 14 min ago, earlier it said it was updated 41 minutes ago

[delicate girder]

Never traded RMC, just salvaged it. It's it good and plentiful supply/demand?

[coarse ember]

Yeah, dunboro and pickers Field have a almost endless supply if I remember right but dunboro is a bit more risky I think

Rn it's heavy demand at a18

[light relic]

getting the RMC is easy enough sometime offloading isnt

[coarse ember]

Yeah, I imagine once everyone has their funds back up and both are better known for their commodities pirates may start showing up lol

[delicate girder]

It's more valuable than gold these days right?

[light relic]

im not sure i havent look at anything else yet

[delicate girder]

What qty you been moving so far?

[coarse ember]

10,696 auec at dunboro for RMC and for gold it's 5,913 at shubin scd-1 for cheapest buy prices rn

For RMC largest I've moved so far is 111scu

For gold seems a18 is in demand and for RMC same story

Tbh enjoyed the fresh update starting with salvage but now I think trading will be my main loop for a few weeks lol

[delicate girder]

Is salvaged RMC a different commodity than traded RMC?

[coarse ember]

Nah it's the same

Both sell at TDD

[delicate girder]

That's wierd then a because I sold RMC at about 17k to 18k and this is saying it's much higher.

[coarse ember]

Odd, today at least on us servers I've been selling for a consistent 15.4k at a18 but nothing higher than that at other TDD

[delicate girder]

Maybe my calculations were wrong and it was that.

[coarse ember]

Orison has high demand for Beryl so I'm hoping it stays that way until I wake up later since I can just fly to smo-22 buy as much as I can afford then sell in half decent time with ts2 QD in my c2

[delicate girder]

SMO-10 and SMO-22 on 3.22 at least.

This is what UEX says for RMC. How do I read that? Don't understand the numbers.

The 23k and 24k don't seem right for the price anyway.

[coarse ember]

On mobile it seems a bit more readable instead of just bars and numbers

Well from the ss you sent the blue bar looks like inventory amount for the location so rappel is full and a18 TDD is little over half but not sure about the numbers

[delicate girder]

Looks to me like RMC is too much risk for the reward.

[delicate girder]

Yep, the Beryl run still works at the moment.

[left obsidian]

I have an issue with trading, trying to buy something from an outpost with my c1 but it says cargo transfer failed

am i doing something wrong?

weirdly enough i could do it 1scu at a time

[mellow sapphire]

does this 0 SCU under the seraphim station mean that they are not currently buying?

[visual night]

That's their estimated current inventory. Seraphim should buy, because they have zero astatine and in theory that makes it In Demand

[nimble sable]

is sc-trade or uex has more accurate info ?

[mellow sapphire]

alright thanks

[visual night]

I use both, if they agree you have better odds. Sometimes sc-trade has an inflated sell price, but I use it for illegal cargo and it's correct-ish

[turbid blade]

Most of the time you're really only looking at ballpark estimates anyway.

So far I'm fairly disappointed in the "economy rework" of this patch, since it didn't really touch a lot of the money making avenues (positively anyway) while making ships just silly expensive.

[coarse ember]

seems they have a working together agreement according to their web app

[orchid sun]

can you land a c2 at the domes of new babbage and still sell at terminals? I think i had some issues with it some patches ago, but not sure anymore

[spare cloud]

It should work

[olive gull]

yes and no, you will wakeup in that station, but not your ship and cargo, game will say its at 'unknown' location, you have to store the ship from the hangaras terminals

some ships let you log out in space, if you have a bed on your ship

[olive gull]

the thing is that CIG realized that people was preffering to buy ships in game instead from the pledge store, that's bad for bussines, by making ships stupidly expensive in game they force players to consider if wouldnt it be easier to just buy the ship with real cash, and many will do that, and that's good for the economy, their economy.

[lost bluff]

what

[lost bluff]

2 iq moment

[limpid sluice]

is there any easier way to bulk sell things like weapons/armor/clothing instead of selling each individual item at the terminal because they dont stack?

[tacit delta]

Star Citizen is a paid F2P. The reason you can play is because the Legati (Whalus Walletus) have paid for the servers so far
In order to fund the 3rd yacht server costs, CIG needs to get money, that money is from selling stuff, and you can't sell stuff if people can get it easily in game

My friend bought F7C for $175. Not because he likes it (he does not, he prefers Scorpius) but purely because CIG says well you get upgraded for free to F7A

[orchid sun]

Did CIG every say anything about maybe removig the need to go to TDDs via public transport, sucks the joy out of selling cargo for me

[radiant valley]

Is it a bug that you can't buy anything at the distribution center terminals? Seems like they should distribute cargo...

[mild island]

i cant buy any cargo for a trade run at all because my cargo grid is "full"

[delicate girder]

But then this wouldn't be the best damn space walking sim ever.

[thick sage]

how can i figure out what a best circular route for trading would be for me? I don't want to return empty

[delicate girder]

Maybe use this and pick the loop option: https://uexcorp.space/trade/routes

[delicate girder]

What is the notation to make the strikethrough effect on text?

[delicate girder]

I had this happen too and it's not because I have a vehicle an other obstructions on the grid. Had to claim the ship to fix it.

[empty pulsar]

am i being the big dumb...i bought cargo at station and set it to go into my star runner but its not there when i take the ship out

but it took the cash

[delicate girder]

You didn't (insurance) claim that ship after you loaded the cargo right?

[empty pulsar]

no

just pulled it from hanger terminal same as always

[delicate girder]

How long was it. There's a possibility it could be server lag. Hop to a different server by picking a friends server which you're not already on or changing regions.

[jovial aurora]

Anybody know what’s up with these terminals at pickersfield shows my ship is loaded with cargo but it’s empty

[delicate girder]

Yep, It's not specific to a terminal I'm afriad. I'm working trying to find a workaround for that, but haven't found one other than claiming you ship when it happens. Really anoying!

[jovial aurora]

Yep

That’s the only solution for now

[delicate girder]

Which ship(s) you seeing it happen on?

[pastel flame]

Don't sell cargo from stored ships. If you do, call ship to pad, sell again.

[delicate girder]

You can sell the cargo twice then?

[pastel flame]

Sometimes!

[delicate girder]

Definitely going to science that one.

[limpid sluice]

I believe theres a bug with cargo not being visible, but it is apparently there

[delicate girder]

We'll I've successfully sold the cargo, but it thinks it's still there so if you can sell it again that's .... bad? Yeah bad! 😉

CIG owes me one science test of this for all the claiming time I've waisted in the last couple days.

[limpid sluice]

It's in the 3.23 known issues

[delicate girder]

Well, as I said, I have a case in which I succesfully sell all of the cargo and then can't use the ship for cargo after that because the game still thinks the ship is full of cargo. Similar but not quite the same.

sciencing ...

[limpid sluice]

I'm just mentioning it in general, because there's people coming in here about not seeing the cargo

[delicate girder]

Yep, good to know the possibly related bugs.

[delicate girder]

Are there pads to land on at Orison? Haven't seen them, but it would be cool.

[high rain]

How are we meant to transport QD's to large ships if they're only sold at stations and ship inventory is nerfed?

Can't get an Erebos into a ship, or my 2SCU crate.

[jovial aurora]

Sorry for the late reply C2

[jovial aurora]

What I’ve noticed is you buy 400Scu out of 696Scu for example then you sell the 400Scu I come back to pickers and it shows that the 400Scu is still there if I would buy the remaining 296Scu you can litterly see that the visible cargo containers stack on top of the invisible ones but when I sell it at TDD again it only shows 296Scu instead of the full load

[delicate girder]

Interesting details! Thanks. I was using a C2 also, so I'd like to know if other ships are doing the same. I assume they are.

[native hatch]

They definitely want to time gate big money trading. So doubt they'll be changing that

[native hatch]

They rely on user gathered info, join us and help keep it updated. There's an app, you just hit a key to screenshot the terminals you go to as you make your routes.

[analog coral]

here's cargo IC https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-108438

[delicate girder]

Another bug. The new system map's search completely stops working periodically.

[spare ledge]

Does the price of recycled materials change is diffrent capitals?

[delicate girder]

Yes RMC is worth more than rmc.

😉

But seriously, I think at least initially that the prices were all the same except at GrimHex which is some lower I think.

[rustic thorn]

so whats a good run to start'

[rustic thorn]

so did all the cargo runs get killed? cant seem to find the store to buy scrap at any of the outposts

[mossy radish]

so, why would someone use the retaliator for cargo?

[brittle orchid]

so rmc the thing to trade nowadays?

[rustic thorn]

Yeah but there's no demand for it anywhere so you're not getting that much for it

[brittle orchid]

gotcha

thats what i figure

[tacit delta]

Everyone's doing everything these days, if you check back in like a month after the big event concludes, activity had died down and trading should be easier again

[fast bloom]

is it difficult for a new player to get into cargo running and trading?

[tacit delta]

Yes, they raised the barrier of entry by a whole lot

You need capital to generate capital to get more capital to generate more capital

Generally speaking in order to start playing cargo, you need to play the other gameplay loops first

[fast bloom]

how much money would you say it would take to begin?

[tacit delta]

Cargo is, put simply, your retirement plan

[fast bloom]

i upgraded my edition to the c1 spirit and i heard its decent for this role

[tacit delta]

Not sure, depends on how big of a ship you want to start with

And what commodity you wanna trade in

[fast bloom]

(i baught it because it was pretty)

im unsure about all of it

i just baught it now i was doing delivery contracts etc and some bounty before

im 100% entry with a decent bit of auec and a upgrade to the c1 spirit so im just looking where to begin

[hollow sedge]

am still currently figuring out the money making loop too

[fast bloom]

any advice is 100% appreciated lol

[hollow sedge]

the good ol Beryl Trading is still decent

but you need an inital start up capital

[fast bloom]

how much cash is reccomended

[hollow sedge]

my base is always 100,000 before you start doing Cargo Trading

[fast bloom]

i have more than that so i should be okay

[spare cloud]

You can trade with any amount of money, but the less money, the less profit.
Most important thing is to not invest what you can't afford to lose

[hollow sedge]

Yeah, thats why 100,000k is always my safety net. haha

[spare cloud]

Try not to invest more than 30% of your capital if you're not experienced

[hollow sedge]

RMC's profit is really nice, but its super risky

Beryl's still pretty decent

[fast bloom]

the c1s cargo capacity is 64 is this good?

[hollow sedge]

profits would be low, but still okay for a starter

lets say Beryl, you make about 420 per SCU

so at 64 SCU, you can about 26k

[lost bluff]

what I mean is money isnt super hard as of yet

if I can make hundreds of millions to a billion in a single month for a game that will eventually never have wipes thatd be insane

albeit that draws into question LTI

and this insurance system

[fast bloom]

anyone ever used the MSR? is it any good

[lost bluff]

being able to keep ships forever

how will that work in the grand scheme of things :P everyone owning a capital ship and super ships

with no way to rlly lose them

in a persistent universe that never wipes

[hollow sedge]

lol.. tbh.. there are going to be many people with Cap ships thinking they can solo it, and realizing they cant. There will also be any under utilized cap ships

like imainge 20 cap ships in the verse, but only one or two fully manned/equipped

[lost bluff]

the point is you can gain every ship forev with no fear of losing them

[slate spruce]

Yep. MSR is a thing of a love-hate relationship 😀 t flies really nice, fast, has large fuel tank, decent cargo bay. Also shitty weapons and insane amount of doors to get in/out.

[lost bluff]

in a persistant live universe that is supposed to eventually have org game play as well? solidly implemented pos and other game loop/features

where people can keep things forever without issue

like will we be able to claim territory without people being able to fight for them?

[fast bloom]

weps not changeable ?

[tacit delta]

and it shouldn't
CIG stated they will stop selling ships once the game goes live. Whether they'll actually do it is a separate matter (I bet they won't), but if they do then ships should not be difficult to be obtained. We're promised space adventure, not space 9-to-5

[hollow sedge]

they will stop selling ships in shops right?

only can be bought using UEC

[tacit delta]

They said they will
Then again CIG also said they will not sell land, only to turn around and sold land anyway

[hollow sedge]

I gues, they should allow land to be sold but more like, you can lose the land if you dont defend it

[tacit delta]

Capital ships should not be expensive to get, capital ships should not be expensive to be maintained, their soft cap should be the fact that you need people to man them, that alone would prevent solo players from utilizing capital ships

Then again there are solo Legati so they said they'll implement some sort of AI crew

[hollow sedge]

i hope u can get AI crew to unload/load cargo for you xD haha

[slate spruce]

Pilot has 2 S3 guns, compared to other medium freighters (Freelancer Max with 4 S3 guns, or Connie Taurus with 4 S5 guns) it's rather underarmed, unless you want to run with ppl sitting in turrets (which are again just 2 S3 guns each). Basically MSR is a gtfo ship, not intended to fight back. Imho best utilization of MSR is drug trading, the cargo bay has an ideal size to scoop everything from a single drug lab, and if you see anyone anywhere along the way, you avoid them.

[fast bloom]

are the constellations series ships ok to run solo or with 2 people cos i max have me and another person who play

they say the min crew is 3 on the specs on the website is all

[slate spruce]

Not sure about 3.23 with engineering gameplay, but in 3.22 it was perfectly viable. If you intend to only haul cargo, any ship is operable as a single person.

[fast bloom]

wish data was in the game so that the herald and msr had a bit more of a good reason to get

[lost bluff]

engineering is prob something for 4.0 or later

[fast bloom]

salvage seems like a fun gameplay loop atm but the vulture doesnt really seem very fun for if i braught a friend along

[misty rain]

Is something wrong with the the Dunboro RMCO trading terminal?

My ship isn't showing up, making me unable to load it. Am I missing something?

[spare cloud]

Often happens at dunboro. Just bugged.

You can try getting your ship closer, or flying 20+km out and coming back.

Switching server region could help too

[misty rain]

Understood. Will give that a go. Thank you

[hollow sedge]

thats risky XD

going to Dunboro. haha

[orchid sun]

But the time it takes to go from port to terminal is constant, i feel like it should be possible to gatekeep big money trading in some other way. Hopefully they'll remove the requirement once and if they add the need to manually offload cargo. i've got exactly zero issues with having to move boxes, "walking and then waiting for a train"-simulator is making me want to gouge my eyes out.

[rustic thorn]

Wow r18 actually filled up. Can sell rmco

[still quarry]

So we are not able to carry ship components anymore in ship inventory correct?

[dull night]

is the constellation aquila good for trading?

[spare cloud]

If you're gonna get a connie, the Taurus is the cargo version, with double the cargo space.

[dull night]

ah I already got the aquila sometime ago

[fallen atlas]

Taurus best Connie 🙂

[rain burrow]

so i was gonna load some cargo but it says my ship is full (is not)

is there anyway to fix this issue?

[turbid blade]

Connie's got a glow up in general this patch, the 4 size 5s is killer.

[spare cloud]

Fr

[turbid blade]

#rock-and-stone message
Taurus is decent at it too, but you don't have the cargo capacity to properly capatilize on it, since you're looting 200-300 SCU's of lower value goods like tungsten to make that money

[visual night]

Are you running ballistics for solo ERTs? Saving up to get my Corsair back but I have a C2/A2, when I tried with Omnis it was a beating

[spare cloud]

There's a lot less valuable commodities since the 3.20.1 nerf. Taurus is more than enough to take all the sweet cargo. You don't care about shitty corundum, quartz and distilled spirits

[visual night]

We ran 2 infernos, 1 C2 last night and ended up with 700k each, was a little bit easier to keep rolling the dice for drugs/eggs

[turbid blade]

I haven't tried ballistics on it yet, I got a bit put off on how bad the infero felt against an ERT earlier in this patch since the time to kill was noticeably worse than last patch. I've just been running the omni's

[spare cloud]

Also Hercules flies like shit this patch

Ballistics are not worth trying if you're running ERTs solo with a cargo ship

[visual night]

Yeah that's what I figured, with only 2 the ammo capacity isn't good enough

[turbid blade]

It is awful to use it in atmo yeah. It's manageable in space and higher end shields feel much better this patch so you can kinda just tank the opening burst and then just sit on their tail where they can't really fire back.

I might try just rolling ERT/VHRT's constantly with a connie tauraus instead for a bit and just go for the quant and drugs.

[visual night]

I managed to find an A2 with 25 eggs on it Saturday. Instead of fighting everyone, I had a buddy wait in a C2, ejected from my fighter and boarded it. Killed the pilot, jumped away before the others could destroy me. That was faster than when I tested my Connie (Andromeda)

[spare cloud]

Nice, I've never found this much eggs in anything other than 890J since nerf

[visual night]

Yeah 890J is where I've found the most 32s in 3.22. right before 3.23 I found 40 scu for someone trying to buy a last minute ship

I think 890J is potentially the easiest of all to board and fly away, it can tank so much shield damage there's less risk. HH can crack pretty early if you're not quick and only has 1-6 eggs usually. A2 has good amounts but it was pretty banged up by the time I got it out

[turbid blade]

Do eggs only show up on ERT's?

[spare cloud]

No, but chances are the highest

[visual night]

I don't think I've ever seen them for VHRT, or maybe only 1-2 scu on a ship

[turbid blade]

Good to know, I was kind of favoring VHRT's since they had the better cargo ships, but if it's noticeably favoring ERT's for eggs and the like that sounds much more worthwhile. Have ya'll noticed cargo surviving much more reliably on ships after they full death as well?

[late summit]

is salvaging in the aaron halo/asteroid fields still good or are contracts better. I havent salvaged since around the vulture's release

[turbid blade]

I'll post a response in #rock-and-stone

[late summit]

tf i didnt even know

gotta add to my channel list

[inner summit]

where would be a good low-risk place be to buy beryl if I wanted to sell to NB? Just used up everything at SAL-5 in Lyria

[visual night]

I always soft kill so I don't really know.

If you're going for quant instead of eggs, VHRT probably works just as well, if you see M2/C2 pop up for companions

[turbid blade]

Gotcha. just sorta brainstorming how viable retaliator with a cargo module+ torp would be for ERT's once they give us modular tali

[olive gull]

i find very safe to buy at SAL-5 on Lyria to sell at Orison

Ita -> Orison sometimes

Beryl trade i mean

[visual night]

I didn't know modular was coming to it until after 3.23, but happened to buy a retaliator before the wipe. I'm also really interested in seeing how it works for cargo, faster ttk but with some potential loss

[turbid blade]

I've hard killed some connies this patch, and it seems like their entire cargo is surviving the death. If that continues into the modular updates it might be a really good strat

[inner summit]

yeah, issue is I got one more trip of inventory left at SAL-5, then I gotta find somewhere else to buy from probably

[olive gull]

https://uexcorp.space/commodities/info/name/beryl/tab/locations_selling/

[inner summit]

thank you - never seen this site before

[hollow sedge]

i have been lied to.

there is no cargo terminal at dunboro.

[coarse ember]

theres supposed to be one but i've nevr found it due to entering builds and glitching through nto the center of the planet, depenind on what you're trying to trade i can check on uex whats cheapest buying point

[wraith ice]

So how is the cargo this patch?

[native hatch]

Can the hull C load cargo from ground stations?

[wraith ice]

no

[native hatch]

beeg sadge

i wish to become wise in the ways of the expanding space donger

[turbid blade]

You'll basically be limited to the stations above the primary planets and the jump points

[wraith ice]

i think hull b will be able to land but idk when that is coming out

[turbid blade]

Yeah hull-b will be the biggest cargo ship that can land on a planet I believe

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[turbid blade]

these are the routes that do pretty well with the Hull-C. I verified the feasibility of hydrogen, helium and degnous root yesterday, they're all pretty good money makers.

[coarse ember]

ngl kinda glad piracy hasnt hit hard quite yet, been trading rmc for days and so far no other person from one doing a mission and any cities

so i've been able to make a nice profit wthout a security pay

[fast bloom]

if i crashed my ship with cargo can i go retrieve it?

im new

or is it just destroyed with the ship and u have to go again

[turbid blade]

you can attempt to go back and get it. Who knows how much cargo will survive the crash though.

[fast bloom]

i was near dropoff in the city but there was no explosion lol and i randomly appeared in the part where u request ur ships to come back

i didnt hit anything either so i assumed i crashed or something lol

maybe bugged out

now i have to wait for expedite

[balmy kelp]

anyone got a fix for when the tdd doesnt even see the cargo grid?

[vapid ermine]

I've been trying to use sc trade tools but every route I find is almost depleted of stock somewhgere / won't buy my stock. Any ideas?

[vestal ravine]

Have you looked into Beryl? I have always been able to load up on Beryl.

[mortal swallow]

Most of my piracy has been killing Reclaimers going in to land at Grim, or hunting salvagers in the Yela belts. It’s not worth hitting RMC traders (yet). Once more people have aUEC to fill their C2s, we’ll switch over.

[vestal ravine]

Which TDD are you selling at?

[jagged wedge]

How long until the cooldowns for RMC stock?

at lorevile

[halcyon wedge]

In case anyone was wondering you can load up an 8scu crate and sell it all at cargo services on live

[vapid ermine]

Where should I buy / sell beryl?

[olive gull]

#industrial-professions message

[vapid ermine]

ty

[muted sparrow]

hey

so id like to become a cargo trader

is there a good group.. like underground trading guild?

i would like to be indicted

[olive gull]

Anybody can confirm if Dunboro's Terminal is broken or Working?

[vestal ravine]

Have you tried trading Vice? I have a site cheat sheet for Gold, Beryl and Vice. In Word 97 format.

[vapid ermine]

honestly im new to trading so i havent tried much, no, just spending the next 5 centuries wwaiting for my distilled spirits to be sellable so I can buy something new

[vestal ravine]

You in a Hull C?

[vapid ermine]

C2

[native hatch]

if your hull c doesnt spawn correctly can you eva to it?

[timid oyster]

where do i sell construcion materials?

[olive gull]

https://sc-trade.tools/best-buyer

[timid oyster]

i tried using that every location it says says cannot sell

[native hatch]

is the location already full on the item you are trying to sell?

[olive gull]

depending of the number of players using them, places can get out of Stock or Demmand for comodities, you can either wait the reset or Server Hop