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where to sell weevil eggs
In any scrap yard
damn
any stations
ight tyty
where in a refinery station can i sell waste? i loaded up on it to see how the cargo decks are laid out
Should be upstairs in the refinery. Above the mining tools shop
huh, thanks, i don't see where. i see the ore sales and refinery terminals
Below then ? 
checked there too, maybe they just don't want my literal waste lol. might just claim the ole ship 🙂
Scrap yards like brios on daymar have more demand for drugs. Be aware there is no armistice zone at scrapyards
Anyone else doing looting have a situation where they stack everything on the grid of a C2 (fir instance) then sell everything and still have a bunch of the cargo grid taken up (marked with a red X as blocked / unusable) by nothing? I just did that and had 128 SCU still taken up after I sold everything I looked to make sure there wasn't any off grid SCUs and visually there weren't. I had no vehicles in the ship.
I have, yeah, but always with something else in the bay - albeit not on the grid. You can still put stuff on the grid manually, but idk about buying stuff.
I get the random small box of cargo that you cant pull off grid and terminal says i sold everything. Have to claim ship to fix
so what should i be hauling in the c2, i been doing titanium and laramite, with some med supplies and alchohol, am i doing it right or is there a better route
Do Beryl runs from MT to Cru. Get a TS-2 QT drive if you haven't already.
I never do it for an hour at a time. I just do it once in a while, but it gives ~400k ish per run.
You can also just to Beryl runs from MT to MT but it doesn't make as much. You can do them much quicker though. You can also add gold to it for added profit.
could anyone give me a loadout for a solo mole?
you missed #rock-and-stone
hey what is a popular trade route for small/medium cargo?
Drugs are great for small cargo ships. You won't make a lot with lawful cargo
At the current state of the Game and Trading, with a C2 fully loaded, what profit can you expect in return ? just as an "ish" (before i buy the c2)
1.2mil with high risks and quite a lot of waiting time on Gold route.
Or 350k with low risk and no waiting time with Beryl route.
You should be able to do multiple beryl runs by the time you do one gold
Edit I re read it: The waiting time is for the gold to respawn?
and whats the high risk? pirates or?
Gold worth more so more risk. Not sure the actual numbers but its goona take like 3-4 million in cargo to make that 1.2 million with gold, where as you are probably only risking 600k with beryl or something. But yea its if someone sees you flying a c2 and decides they want your cargo and shoot you down. Or you crash for some reason
arh yeah thats true
Pirates,
Game crashes,
Server crashes, 30k recovery should apply but sometimes (rarely) doesn't work
You're investing 1.2 mil with beryl, and 5 mils with gold
Beryl is overall better IMO
Yea buying 4mill in gold, and selling for 5.2mill. A lot bigger investment to lose if something goes wrong
Also, yeah, waiting time is for gold to restock.
Right thank you, seems like the best way to earn money right now is salvaging around 1.3 mill for 1 salvaged ship in the reclaimer
I was making 400-450k an hour in the vulture salvaging.
not bad
I make 30 millions in 30 minutes with my A2

Could've made 50mils instead but forgot about JT trick
JT that good?
Ive been meaning to grind the bounties to ert but always find something else to do instead lol
I made a message of it if you don't mind. I thought it was better than a link.
Ship cargo grid layouts per manufacturer
Maximum on grid capacity of ships, with the biggest containers fitting.
Isometric view from behind
Credit : u/Erecco
Sure
I didn't make this from JT. I made this from ERT bounties. Found 376 SCU of Maze, that I sold for 33 mils.
But when JT is on, if you find Maze, instead of selling it to scrap yards or GrimHEX for 90k/SCU, you can bring it to the UEE for 150k/SCU. This way I would have made 56mils
What ship do you use for erts
A2
wait how did you manage that 😮 (the 30 mill in 30 min)
Like this
Oh nice so you where lucky finding a good one! AWESOME
This really shows how artificially reduced are the M2 and A2 grids. Interior space is the exact same as C2 for the M2, and just a little less for the A2 because of bombs
Wouldnt it be optimal to bring a C2 and A2(for the combat part) for ERTS? more storage If you got a friend. (rookie question)
since there is such a big difference between a2 and c2
Half the money with a friend 
thats true.
Like I just said, A2 grid is artificially lowered. You can fit almost as much as the C2 inside an A2.
The A2 gets the advantage of the gunner seats if you want friends, but also the advantage of the bombs.
When you arrive at the scrap yard, whether there's someone or not, you bomb the area, and make sure it's clear for you to land
yeah i heard the bombs are great if you suspect someone waiting for you at the drop off and you want to make sure they dont kill you lol
That's really practical and saved my life and cargo many times already
does it give you a crime stat doing that?
If they press charges yeah. Killing a player doesn't immediately give CS. The killed player is first asked if they want to press charges against you
Which they often don't because the time window to do so is so short lmao
Arh, i kinda feel like it should be remade (like how does they know you are the killer and not someone else xD ) but yeah better safe than sorry 😄
and who dosnt love a big explosion
You don't have to know who killed you to press charges against em. It tells you who they are
Unless comm array was down, of course
Yeah i just realized the comms array is basically monitoring all of our activites 😂 and thats why they know when we kill someone (i totally forgot about that)
Does anyone run an m2? Is there a point?
It's useless IMO
That's what i thought lol, just wanted to make sure
M2 currently has no upsides, because it's just supposed to be an up-armoured C2 with an extra chin turret, but armour is not modelled properly in-game yet
it's meant to be the main military/UEE cargo ship to transport vehicles and large amounts of supplies
Ship cargo grid layouts per manufacturer
Maximum on grid capacity of ships, with the biggest containers fitting.
Isometric view from behind
Credit : u/Erecco
Repost. I forgot one pic earlier
@rich python Can you pin again please ? ❤️
Classic skill issue from me
i didnt realise aurora even had cargo space lol
it has a lil' butt grid
which was made before the SCU container metrics were finalised so now it sits too low for you to put containers on it while it's landed lol
im only just getting into trading in this game cos im relatively new so im constantly learning new stuff haha
per one scu?
Correct
damn i didnt think its that much
It's why ERTs are so profitable at the moment.
i mean maze is good too
exactly. Sometimes I'll only look for big drops in eggs and/or maze to get a big payday
yeah, just made 22 mil from maze and a bit of egg
lol yep...it's a bit outrageous, but enjoy it while it lasts
where is best to buy from and where to sell to
depends what you mean by best
There's a few options out there right now. Gold being one of the more popular ones. However it could be hard to find it in stock at times
sc-trade.tools and uexcorp.space offer tools to help find some good routes and commodities to trade for
thanks, sc trade tools seems very useful
Gold, beryl or drugs (vice)
Yeah it's the best tool
Try setting routes for one of the commodities I listed using it 👍
I recommend running drugs if you have less than 120SCU of space
Regarding the Hull C, has anyone had success selling at the stations and if so which ones?
I’m curious to know in 3.19 you could pull the aurora CL cargo pod off and place it on any other aurora but will it persist after claiming the ship or just for the life of that aurora until next claim?
Do you guys think the c1 is worth the purchase for some cargo running ?
Meh
@dusty oracle I don't think it does anything better than its competitors.
In its size class, I'd take the freelancer MAX since it has more cargo space and a turret gunner seat.
If you must have the rear tractor beam, the cutlass black loses some cargo space but gains much more pilot firepower and a turret gunner seat.
That all said, the c1 is definitely a cool ship and it feels much more modern.
If you're trying to make some credits cargo hauling, most people would recommend you go up to the constellation Taurus. The top of the pack right now is the Hercules C2
What sub board would Delivery Missions fall under? Trying to figure something out about shipping error - QT sensitive cargo missions
NM. I found my answer. looks like there are a bunch of bug reports on it
Just bought my Caterpillar. It's my favorite ship so that is why I picked it over the C2. I was wondering what type of upgrades y'all feel are mandatory. It seems a lot of fittings have a specific best in slot and everything else is a 1% "this or that" difference. It can be confusing to a new player like myself. I plan on using it in group play but if I could set it up to somehow handle lower level combat contracts and loot the drugs they had then that would be even better. (If this is not plausible then I understand). Any help would be appreciated.
Erkul.games is a good place to fiddle with the components to find out what works.
You understood the gist. Outside of guns and quantum drive which tend to have a specific "This is the best gun", everything else is down to either "The stock one is fine" or "Pick the one with the biggest number."
I disagree with that. The extra HP from upgraded shields are a very good help, especially for a defenseless ship like a solo caterpillar
Generally, this applies for any ship but you want
- Fastest quantum drive that can still do Crusader-Microtech
- Highest-HP Military shields (Or civilian if you don't care about distortion resist)
- Guns are repeaters or laser cannons for PVE, with S4 and up opening the door to AD4B/AD5B. Size 5 repeaters are bad either use laser cannons or put a gimbal. Ballistic cannons are a fun if low-ammo alternative
Also, cat guns don't necessarly need to be upgraded
The stock caterpillar loadout is all repeaters which is very functional
Stock loadout is all laser cannons
This is what I was thinking of getting.
That's alright but if you wanna keep discussing it move to #flight-combat-racing
I apologize. I thought this was a good place. ❤️
Depends c2 is more for cargo and hauling the reclaimer is more salvage and doing that game play loop so it depends on what you want to do and what your more interested in
^ They're two ships that do completely different things, they're not comparable.
very true just worried that the salvage game play loop might be nerfed when it comes to money making becauyse it is very very lucrative rn
It's 100% getting nerfed at some point
But i do think cargo hauling has been a decent money make for a pretty long time now
FWIW C2 also enables you to do ERTs if you're into that.
very true
C2 ERTs are very profitable
I think C2 ERTs are both more fun and just as profitable as salvage atm so I go for the one that's actually interesting
Its definitely quicker, running AD5Bs on the C2 i take out all targets in like a minute.
Then the rest of the time im neatly stacking the cargo
I run lasers because i hate restocking but yeah AD5Bs shred
plus there's the added lootbox aspect of cracking open a cargo ship hoping for valuables
Only takes a second to touch a pad and restock
I'm lazyyyyy
Yea when you see weevil eggs pop up on the scanner and you know your making big bucks
How long does it usually take for salvage centers to reset demand? I've heard couple minutes to 20 mins. Any exact approximations?
Scrap yards ? It's about 15-20 minutes yeah.
But depending on the moment you arrive, it might refresh in 30 seconds, or 10 minutes, or 20.
Yeah I meant scrap yards mb.
I will keep that in mind, thanks!
is this the part of the Hull-C trading that is broken at times?...
Is selling Maze from salvage missions still a good way to make money?
maze and weevil eggs are the top paying community other then the EXTREMELY RARE Janalite
so with the Hull C can you only buy cargo from space stations and sell to space stations?
yes
though.. I would wait until the next patch. unless you don't care about losing money
is a big wipe coming?
not until 4.0
so likely summer
thats the expected next wipe anyway
ok figured that
a Wipe prior to any significant economy changes will accomplish little more than to annoy most of the playerbase IMO
especially with new ships, weapons, and so on coming out that need testing. All that requires aUEC to be tested, so let folks have their fortunes
how long until mining facilites restock gold?
I tried googling it yesterday and think it's like 40 units every 7/8 minutes... but that's all the info I found.
i have a full cargo hold of gold in the freelancer max and im' trying to sell it at orisoin but when i land the terminal doesnt let me store it, it only says claim at the place i bought the gold and the tdd terminal doesnt show the freelancer tf do i do
hey, why cant i sell these?
Containers labelled with "(ore)" cannot be sold. Anywhere.
For some reason they decided to make this a thing but
¯_(ツ)_/¯
ok so if i get more containers with ores, i just need to throw them out?
Yup
aight ty for answering
Or take them to a refinery. You can sell ore there or have it refined. You then sell it as normal once refined.
This is part of the mining loop but drifts into cargo handling as sometimes you come across ore.
These can't be sold to refineries either, since for now they only buy from actual mining ships
Good to know
Gents, can I get a list of rmc selling derelict settlements other than rappel, pickers field, makers point (bugged) and dunboro (bugged)?
Best cargo ship. Go!
taurus
Boring answer: C2
Fun answer: Caterpillar
Unreleased answer: Railen
Cat isn't fun, it just looks good. It flies so bad.
Taurus is much funnier, with fire power and a tractor beam
Cat looks good but yeah it does not fly as good as it looks
Hello guys, i'm looking for an SRV. Can i borrow one of yours for the night ? I want to make the hammerhead mission
you may have more luck in #looking-for-session
Okay thanks a lot
so seeing as they over-nerfed ERT's im assuming salvaging is the current best ratio of $ per hour?
over nerfed? you realize just how much you could make from it when doing it right, don't you?
you can still make ludicrous amount of money from it and have fun with the game's combat system. disintegrating a ship in two clicks is quite boring by comparison.
What’s the Best place to get risky cargo like maze?
yes but i was making stupid money but they modified the loot tables for ERT's over the last few days it seems, so now its about a few hundred k per ert now
Idk i still make a few mil per ERT
I'd say the Constellation Tarus is the best overall, as it has the best chances if it gets trapped by pirates(still not good, but better than most other options) while still holding a fairly sizable amount of cargo. For max planetside capacity, the C2 is still king though.
Is drug running profitable in a cutlass black or freelancer max, or is it not worth while without a larger cargo capacity.
It's profitable!
Drug running is not worth with a larger cargo capacity.
Anything bigger than 120 SCU you're gonna spend a very long time at the trade terminal waiting for supply to go up.
Single SCUs of Construction Materials seem to be an "Unregistered Item" (and don't sell) when selling at any admin office (not sellable at TDD). Anyone else find a way to sell Construction Materials?
hey guys ive got a question, i heard that bounty cargo got nerfed and was wondering if its worth it to farm ert bounties, ive already got vhrt bounties
It is. RNG was nerfed, meaning valuable cargo are rarer, but there are still plenty of cargo
damn my friend got the reclaimer and no matter what i try nothing seems to make even remotly the same amount of money
VHRTs are much worse than ERTs
lets hope, il spend another couple hours farming for erts hopefully they are good, i did like 7 vhrt and only got a small crate of weevle eggs
Do scrap yards and NQA terminals share the same inventory? Or could I sell a bunch of eggs at a scrapyard and then go to a NQA and sell more?
In the same vein, do multiple scrapyards share inventory or are they separate
Every shop is unique and has its own inventory. Stocks are not shared between shops, but between servers of a same region.
So Brio's doesn't have the same stock as Samson, but it has the same stock on all of EU servers
Very cool, cheers 
That is fantastic to hear! Thank you!!
That makes sense, well I know what I’m doing tonight then. Lol. Thank you!
Have you tried selling them at a refinery at the L-Stations?
Where can i sell cm?
admin terminals
In stations too? I couldnt in seraphim last night
Anyone have a comprehensive list of commodity prices including illegal ones? everyone I found online had stuff missing here and there
!tradetool is the best. For the the few missing things, just ask
!tradetools
One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.
TY, but like if I’m trying to see the unit price for weevil eggs it don’t even appear lmao
Bug or are they just not In demand?
They're part of what's not listed at all on tradetools.
They're worth 110k aUEC per SCU
They're the most valuable cargo
Suggestion for a good ship, cheaper but still big (ish) for Cargo hauling)
Where can you get it?
connie taurus
So i got slam at Grim but theres no demand, how long do I have wait for that to return?
can I sell cargo thats in my hopper before ejecting like rmc without ejecting to get 13 extra scu for sale?
nope, gotta pull it out of the depot
How much cargo space does the hull c have ?
Cool
docking with the hull c is currently borked atm though
Stealing cargo from bounty targets. That's why people run ERTs 👍
You can snap all type of containers on it, even ships iirc.
But 32 SCU containers will help avoid bugs
Does the Hull C have the new type of grid in the PU? I thought that video shown at CitizenCon was an example of what grids would do in the future.
My issue its with the cargo transfer, docking works
Specifically, docking works as well as it does for any other ship that docks, and has workarounds for just about all issues. The cargo loading on the other hand is finnicky, but ive yet to run into a situation where i didnt eventually get it to work
The real problem with the Hull C right now is that with margins the way they are, its a significa tly less profitable use of your time than just running a C2 full of Beryl from Ita to Hurston
Ah
Thanks for letting me know!
I tried drug running from orphanage to Samson. The supply was extremely low, is this typical or is there a better place for this
Drug isn't meant for high volume. Typically Jumptown >> Brio's gives you 20 SCU or SLAM and 20 of WiDoW, plus about 70 SCU of Altruciatoxin.
Pretty typical as they're high value.
Low supply, high demand (buy price)
So you pick up the 20 of slam and widow, you can wait a bit for 20 more of each, and that's it, fill the rest with altrucia, and go sell
If you want higher risk, higher reward then run RMC lol
Ok that makes sense I’ll try that, I was only getting like 5 scu. I’m down for rmc what is the best route?
Hurston has 2 working locations that I'm aware of atm. Pickers Field & Rappel. Sell at A18 TDD as it has the largest depot to buy at 50,000 scu vs 4,000 at other TDDs.
Full C2 is over 7m investment with over 2m in profits. If successful.
A third location may be fixed in next patch called Makers Point. Also a location all the way out in MicroTech. However these 2 locations will not allow you to select your ship to purchase last I heard.
I was curious about RMC I hear a lot of piracy is around these locations, but I’m willing to try for that profit. Thank you so much!
About as much as there is for drugs at salvage yards. Again, high risk/high reward. If there's red flags then don't let greed drown out the voice telling you something is off. Always be prepared.
But of course the highest paying commodity at the highest buy-in has people looking to transfer ownership 😆
For less risk, less reward I personally like to run Beryl from Ita to Lorville. Quick loop, decent credits.
Cargo running is just fun and relaxing, I really appreciate the info, I’m just hopping back in and haven’t played since 3.17. Just curious what game loops are fun and profitable now.
What locations are best for beryl
Hurston. Ita -> Lorville
Thanks guys, y’all are always so helpful
!tradetool
@winter steeple you can also check this for everything relating to trade it helps big time it helped me back when I first started doing cargo
!tradetools
One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.
That’s a really cool site thank you!! @thick socket
Np
Best place to get consistent good stocks of Gold? I know the main ones but always empty
Hey so a few days ago I went for this route but when I arrived in "Brio's Breaker Yard" (I think it was there, not sure) I died because of a missile attack. I'm sure it wasn't a player and I would like to avoid getting destroyed like that... Do you have any tips for trading routes? and to avoid that?
Yeah, don't go to Brio's.
Brio's is the PvP hotspot in Crusader, and you very likely died to a player. Avoid salvage yards, SCD-1, SMO-18 and Rappel if you want a safe route
SMO-18 on MT has higher gold stock on renew and SCD-1 on Daymar has lower but also has beryl
Salvage yards are extremely risky and Brios is the worst because it has a reputation and is well known.
When I'm flying drugs trading or liberated from bounties I avoid Brios and try the others. If I see ANY blue markers (player) I charge my QD. If they are military ships I get out of there. If it's a trade ship of some kind I land away and wait for them to leave before landing at the yard.
Okay thanks for all your answers
Rmc and crm crates can be sold at the big cities.
Guys the stock is alway so low and idk what do to
For what commodity
whats the best cargo ship other than the c2
Large runs always go C2 or Hull C but not big profit margins on the Hull. Best mid range id say is connie Taurus
I second the Taurus. I have mine upgraded completely with coolers, QD, shields, powerplants, etc. And very rarely will you have enough stock to max out the cargo bay anyways. So I vary routes between mining facilities and sell on Area18. Have the M2 but waiting for 522scu just seems wasteful since the last time I had a full load of Gold was after waiting an hour checking the Terminal.
I find the Microtech route from the SMO-18 to New Babbage is one of the most profitable for the time invested.
how much is the taurus in game if u know ?
why do i get cargo transfer failed sometimes
Can anyone help with the final stages of a delivery mission? My marker "drop off" marker seems to be underground.
3.2
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@frigid crown thats what i was thinking also. If i bought a c2 how often would i even be able to fill it all
Beryl will fill it unlike Gold. Other mid-range trade items can fill it but Med Supplies probably not. But you always can hit a few spots, store the ship till next gaming session, fill some more and go sell. A C2 Beryl run from MT to Orison is a 440K profit. But you need 1.5 million to buy that much. If you get pirated you are screwed.
Try to avoid the hull c for now, lot of bugs
rmc is best to trade in c2
a little risky but I havnt ran into problems
it costs 7.6m to fill up and when you sell you make about 2m profit each run
Hey citizens, anyone able to walk me thru a beginner friendly route. Dont need to make millions or anything. Just something for me to dip my toes into the loop?
If you're in something smaller than a C2 and/or don't have a lot of overhead maybe try running Beryl, Diamond or Laranite on some of the less traveled routes without a lot of supply. SC Trade Tools is a great resource for beginning haulers
Thanks dude
Anybody have a paladin helmet 😤
What is a good thing to haul in a c2 for the most profit
RMC, but it's a huge investment and risky
try gold and beryl
Beryl from Ita to Lorville is the most consistent, good pay short haul. Normally just under 300K aUEC profit per run.
I normally hit Woodruff
Hey, is Shubin Mining Facility SCD-1 a safe place to go buy things? or am I getting killed?
okay thanks
If I can fill up both catipillar and Connie Taurus which is better for cargo runs with gold I'm just wondering if something smaller and faster might be more efficient over time other than tons of cargo all at once
Cat just takes forever to leave atmosphere
well
Cat has twice the cargo hold, yet it doesn't take twice as long to do a trip (despite feeling that much slower)
thing is with Gold, you're rarely going to be able to fill either hold in one trip, so the smaller is probably better
or, just go run Beryl
sounds like a huge pain in the ass to me. Beryl might not give quite the same level of profit, but it's EZ-PZ, and still 300k per run, for the shortest run
get familiar with that site, and all the information it has available to you
best way to do that is to read, and to click around on it. The answer to almost every question you could ask can be found there
it's not a bad idea, but mining-related questions have their own channel for it, and you'll get better answers there
probably the 'easier' option, to the slow trickle of income Trading can be, with small ships
Is there a TDD on Lorville? Or somewhere else other than Admin that you can buy or sell things there?
there is a TDD at Lorville. There's one at all the major cities
it's at its own tram station
C1, though not yet buyable ingame. Can't go wrong with a Freelancer too. Good middle step is Connie Taurus
The place with the statues?
I think so? The biiiig bladerunner building
from the trams, its on the left
I mean... you can't buy it ingame, only pledge store at the moment. Thought that was fairly clear, heh
anyway. Pretty sure there's freelancers in that budget, they have decent holds. Either vanilla or Max
dunno what the Connie Taurus goes for
but it's a good choice
which? There's only one ship vendor at each major city so it's pretty straight forward
and to find out, all you gotta do is exactly what I'd do to give you the answer - google search, lol
not that I'm trying to brush you off, but I'm on my phone and you could probably google it faster than I could, the wiki runs like shit on my phone browser
Thanks for the help!
Oh, there will be cargo quests?
You just made my year if there Will be, thought the only cargo Gameplay that Will exist would be buying materials from point a and bring It to point b
Where can I find the terminal "No Questions asked" or something I think it's called? It's at a space station and hidden within a construct area on the station and your able to sell illegal things on it I believe
One at Cru-L4 in the locker room, and one at Cru-L5 in a construction area beyond the locker room, I think both are in the Galleria
Cru-L4 buys a lot more than L5 does
not volume, but variety
@tardy umbra Thank you! I was about to head to all the L points near crusader lol. I also didn't know there was two of them, that helps a lot lol
Anyone know where I can sell Illegal or unregistered Construction Material? Found a lot outside of grim hex but can't find a place to sell it.
Hey, how long does it take Shubin SCD-1 to tic?
So if Cargo is gonna become physicalized to where TDD dont just fill your hold with cargo how are the Hull ships gonna be loaded because the hanger elevators make sense but the hulls cant land and load cargo int he hangers they dock to spacestations..
Hull C already loads in stations, same gonna happen for bigger ones, with cargo being transferred here.
Hull A and B can land with cargo, but not sure if the B gonna fit the assigned hangars with the spine deployed, but if not that's an easy fix for the Hull B to be loaded directly in hangars 🤷
For those who have had the issues of "illegal or unregistered" cargo (i.e. construction material), there is a way to sell it. You need to be at a station that has demand for the product your trying to sell, then you much click along the edge of the right side of the button of the cargo your trying to sell. Literally along the bored. Somewhere between the half way and top specifically. Eventually you will find the spot that works and you'd be able to sell the items as intended. This shouldn't be a long process either. Just not as simple as normal. Hope this helps!
had to go with "illegal or unregistered" cargo to Grim Hex sold at good price
What would you guys say is the most profitable cargo run for a freelancer MAX? I’ve been salvaging with the vulture, just saved up to buy a freelancer to hit up some cargo runs.
Either RMC runs or drug runs
Hull c fixed?
Id push drugs or rmc, maybe gold
Roger that, do you think I’d get enough drugs to fill a freelancer? I tried with the cutty black and never found enough to fill it up, also what’s the Best Buy and sell locations for RMC, thanks guys!!
i get RMC from salvaging missions then sell it either at orison or A18
Lancer obviously won't get RMC from salvage missions.
RMC can be bought at the new locations, I don't know their names.
Sell it in TDDs
You probably weren't buying drugs in the right places
Good spots like JT sell about 20 SCU of SLAM and Widow and over 70 of altruciatoxin you can use as filler.
If stocks are low, wait a few minutes, buy and leave. Don't wait for the terminals to refresh multiple times. Once only, more is greed
I use rout Pickers Field - Lorville to trade RMC. Both points are on Hurston. Within 96 scu bought for 1.05m I get 250k per run, it usually take 25 minutes from the moment I buy to the moment I sell.
Fantastic, thank you guys. I have never ran drugs from those location so I will give it a shot. I also never used pickers field, so I will try that as well, o was previously making orphanage runs but only getting around 9-10 scu of slam. The vulture does get some good rmc while doing 80k personals but I’m looking for some larger cargo hails, trying some space trucking lol
In the drug labs without marker you should have enough
Where would I find those locations? Sorry I’ve never visited them.
where the hull C normally load up cargo at is an open sided warehouse where either you be able to tractor the cargo onto the cargo blades or the station will be sending out MPUVs or drones out to load the hull c. i figure with the hull series and later on planetside and moons, there be open areas to either land and load or tractor the cargo on up
your miners basically already have that style of gameplay ingame right now with the ability to jettison the ore pods and tractor them around to either to your cargo birb or to your MOLE/Expanse
In fact the MPUV Is specifically designed for uses like these. Loading cargo onto ships that can't land in a hangar
tips for cargo?
Buy low, sell high
Beryl, Gold, and RMC are your trio to go to
Anyone know what vehicles can be put into the C2? Or specifically if a vulture can fit in there?
if it fits it ships tbh
!fit
oh hm that doesn't have the c2
It does, it's the Starlifter
Hey, I'm looking for a safe cargo route, any advice? (I already went on sc-trade.tools but it doesn't say if it's safe)
Basically what tradetools shows first and post rewarding isn't safe
So gold/RMC not safe
Beryl is safe, it's not an interesting route for pirates
okay so i should go for beryl routes?
If you want to avoid most risks yeah
Still have game crash risk but you're safe from pirates
okay thanks
oh I saw that and thought starfarer for whatever reason
how much is uncut slam worth ?
How many minutes go by before the stock refreshes?
Depends on the location. Between 5 and 20 minutes
Any website that let's you see the refresh rate depending on the location?
I know SC trade gives you per minute
but that obv isn't in game as you said
It also gives the refresh rate, but can't give it real time
Max 800 SCU + 6/min
14m 33s is the refresh time?
So whats the best way to take asap? just stare at the screen for 5 to 20 min?
No make it update. Leave screen and go back on, keep clicking stuff that makes it load, so it updates
Alright, appreciate it
Is there really any good way to make money trading without a c2
Other ships have huge amounts of cargo, but C2 is best, at least for lawful cargo.
You make decent money trading drugs with anything that has between 40 and 120 SCU
there's the caterpillar which was the king of cargo before the Hercules series made their debut. for not using the cargo grid, the reclaimer be your other best bet with it being able to hold 1000SCU+ easy
doubt you want to move that cargo up that elevator between buys though
Definitely. High margin commodities like drugs or RMC. Even a Freelancer Max full of RMC will make you $250k
You can try gold with a cutlass black, if you get the cargo i think its like 100k ana hour or something
How do yall feel about pirates in game?
Personally, I'm of the opinion that a lot of piracy is avoidable by being a little cautious. If I still get caught without any way to call in backup, that's my loss. However, it's rare enough that it ends up being the cost of doing business.
The main form of piracy that's unavoidable is getting caught while loading up. On some moons, you may still be able to get away by using the fact they can't QED near armistice zones, so you can get high enough to QT out before their QED comes back online.
!tradetools ⬇️
One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.
Vice cargo
Margins are higher than with lawful cargo, but volume is far less important
Drug bunkers ? Clear stash, all that stuff ? Maybe, I don't think anyone ever tried, but it mostly gonna be very painful because they're small boxes, not even necessarily valuable drugs
Oh, you meant bounties. Yes you can, but it works much better with high risk bounties. VHRT/ERT
Yes
#flight-combat-racing if you want to discuss ship loadouts
Anyone wanna run ert farm? Know how to stack crates/what to prioritize, can provide inferno, currently grinding for C2 (1 mil away)
where do I sell heart of the woods, dung, all these "food" items that have good value but arnt consumable
whats the best thing to buy and sell rn
And also riskier, RMC
Beryl is the safe option
best place to buy?
I don't know what they're called, new outposts on Hurston and microTech
The Rappel ? I think that's one ?
Rappel and Pickers on hurston. idk the one/s on microtech though
Please avoid Rappel until they fix it. The NPC count just continuously goes up and when someone approaches the outpost, the entire server FPS drops to 2.
my game crashed when i had 3 hammerheads worth in my reclaimer. is there anyway i can find my body?
nope, you'll need to redo everything again
and claim your ship, ofc
not really, if he is lucky he can be logged in same instance and find his ship at the location it crashed of course if he can get to the place it happened
look at the bottom lancer, i spawned in same instance but i couldnt access it as i claimed new ship and the old left with +1mil rmc in it
now i learned that in such circumstances never do claim a new ship just try relogging and go at the accident location first 😉
Sure, but what are the odds that you'll get in the same instance ?
there is always some chance tho

If it crashes, wait 15 mins and it might store it at last station
with all the cargo? @sonic fiber
That's how it works for 30k protection.
It doesn't apply for game crashes
If you are fast enough and or lucky you may get back to the same shard and you may get back to the same place you crashed.
Crashed a few times on the reclaimer and as long as I got back in fast enough I usually got in standing in the same place.
Depending on the reason, yes
You and your ship get stored as is
okay
so in my reclaimer, the shields overheat after my 1st sstacking jjob. what happens when it overheats? and how do i prevent it from oberheating?
whats the best place to sell construction materials? the trade page wont show it
from https://uexcorp.space/commodities:CMAT the price isnt much difference, so anything that is close I would imagine.
Mining Calculator, Trade, Prices, Risks, Profitability, Mass to SCU Converter, Ships List, SCU, Prices and more
how much do maze and weevil eggs go for at devlin?
last i try to sell eggs at devlin, it wouldnt take them. but that was whenever chris roberts turn off all the breaking yards last patch
They sell the same at every scrapyard
so 90k for maze and ~111k for eggs
People just go to Brio's all the time despite it being incredibly unsafe because they're too lazy to go to the other yards
I do it too
I went to reclamation expecting trouble and nope. Boring
thank you
roughly where in lorville is the admin area for selling construction mats?
nm found it!
Anyone know a good website for trading and to know what components you can buy for you ship
!erkul for components. #flight-combat-racing if you want to discuss loadouts
• Calculator • Shops • Ships • Weapons •
!tradetools for trading ⬇️ Not everything on tradetool is up to date, if it's missing stuff, look on uexcorp.space
One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.
Mining Calculator, Trade, Prices, Risks, Profitability, Mass to SCU Converter, Ships List, SCU, Prices and more
i just have it on the ship list atm but there is commenidies, trade routes, etc
!itemfinder got this too, with probably more accuracy ⬇️
Use the website to search for any item (and where to buy them) in-game.
Just not the real money price
thx for the help
anyone know how long it takes for a terminal to restock/reset?
Between 5 and 20 minutes depending on the terminal.
Minus the time passed since last refresh at the moment you arrived
ty
where can i sell eggs at a good price?
at all of the breaking yards
brios[Daymar], reclaimation orinth[Hurston], sampson n sons[Wala], and devlin[one of microtech moons]. with all drugs, it be a pvp hotspot
is there anyway to know how much lasers will have per full mag from this information?
it should say it on erkul
@balmy kelp
oh i see. the more panthers i put on, the lesser it gets. lol
i just put on 1 panther on there just to see
i apologize. im in cargo and trading lol
Just did a mini sheet for a Freelancer MAX run. The run requires stopping at:
Start
Wala - Mining Area 056
**Buy **100 Laranite and 20 Astatine for a total of ¤243,700
->
Lyria - The Orphanage
**Sell **100 Laranite for ¤250,000
**Buy **20 each of Altruciatoxin, E'tam, SLAM (there might be up to 50 available but this is super rare, 20 is common) for a total of ¤495,000
Wala -> Samson and Sons
**Sell **Astatine, Altruciatoxin, E'tam, SLAM for ¤693,000
Total profit is ~¤204,000 (prices variable)
Maximum simultaneous CAPEX is ¤509,000.
So really your loss risk is quite low as far as hauling goes.
Potential for loss is pretty high because of two non armistice zones so I typically only do this outside of busy hours for my region.
Perks:
So no planet side landing. Minimum cargo hold needed is 120 and there is some variability in the total you can make if The Orphanage has a high load for whatever reason.
Note:
If you have more cargo space, you can up the astatine you run to 50 to slightly increase profit. You can also carry 100 Tungstun.
You can do this run round trip every 20 mins and always find this run replenished in my experience.
You can also do a run to Paradise Cove between runs to allow more time for replenishing drugs at The Orphanage.
5min-20min it depends on the location. not every location update when the commodity update pings out for the entire server that you are on
yeh took like 5min.. didn't know if it was better to go somewhere else or wait it out lol
full caterpillar of rmc from pickers -> Area 18 nets a 1.5 million profit
youll need like6.4 million to fill it up initially tho
Yep.
Just a question. Is C2 best for Trading?
Yes
atm yes since it is the current king of cargo after taking the position away from the caterpillar
Can a Cutty fit a 16scu box?
You didn't get what I sent you. I didn't tell you to ask in this channel, I sent you a link to a message that's in this channel
My bad..and got it now. TY
are you able to make money with the hull C yet?
so lame
glad I didnt buy it
And all the rest of the hull C loop
I wish trading wasnt trading but hauling cargo on a contract
I hate spending money to pick up cargo
that and also make a dedicated cargo landing area so I dont have to take a train every time
unload rest for like 10 mins and go
how do I drop off cargo at cargo bays?
in the Hull C?
in a hull A
admin
are you saying call for help or is that a location?
admin in galleria
found it, thank you
Hi 🙋🏼♂️ any idea how to open the cargo hold of a 300i - cant find any button 🤔
Get in pilot seat and click Open exterior
How about you offer that as a sort of beacon contract?
People can take that as an extra passive income and you start to build a reputation.
You take other players auec, buy the cargo, move it, sell it, but charge a fixed fee. Risk of cargo can vary per your fixed fee.
quick mining question, does refined material worth more still? cuz i only found one chart with the new prices but are those refined or raw?
#rock-and-stone and yes and refined
Thx 🙏
Where's the admin on NB?
map_nb
It's MT planetary services iirc
ty
how much to rent a c2 hercules
Nothing. It can't be rented. You can tour one in Crusader showroom if you want, or ask players in game chat or #looking-for-session
anyone have any idea how often the CBD at Lorville refreshes?
the TDD? You actually found something it didn't have enough demand for?
is the 890J fun enough to just do safe cargo routes in it? I mean, cargo hauling in a luxury space cruise.
Maybe if you got ppl. I mean...Working Salvage in a Reclaimer is kinda a pain...so if you had to protect that ship alone...I think you'd be closer to a giant target than a gaint cargo-hauler. At least stuff like the A/C/M2 and Hull's all have cockpit-controlled defenses. The one plus...but not when considering that everyone knows it's there, is the secondary cockpit...where you can make them take longer to find and kill you. Nah. I's stick with actual cargo haulers or using solo-controlled smaller ships.
Interesting. I wonder if it would be worth getting another person to protect you for 50% of the paycheck from the cargo.
really depends on your take. even at that...how much are you willing to split. I only do half..so for me ( I salvage ) I always have to figure how much I wanna make and if its 'worth' having crew that will get an equal cut.
*Take, as in how much you get from your mission or whatever
Tonight I wanna make 8 mil to get a Redeemer. Thats 5 missions. If I have a crew member be a Dock-Master...then that means it may go quicker....but I'll also have to hit 10 missions to get the 16 mil I would need to be able to split the take in half and walk away with a full 8. As such...I'll probably just work it alone.
How many of the big long 32 scu boxes can the taurus hold?
2 on grid. 2 more off grid
#industrial-professions message
So same as the andromeda. Curious as to how it’s got 174 scu
I have the andromeda and can fit 2 on grid and 1 off. But can’t seem to fit the 4th
You can, it has to be carefully stacked
Taurus is a bit longer than Andromeda and got extra cargo space at the back
yea RMC
I hired a security organization they took 20% if the cargo was vice. Provided 2 ships.
Anyone need a hand running cargo or anything looking to get some experience and earn some money while learning
From my experience as both a box monkey and a solo captain, the split for 1 crew member is worth it. Most ships I've worked on, 5 HH is a full load, and takes about an hour. So 2 and bit hours will get you the money you want. The time you would otherwise have to spend walking thr full length of the ship with every break more or less doubles the the time anyway. Plus you then end up stressing about something happening while you're not in the cockpit.
How to get ERT missions? Im about to buy a C2 Hercules and dont know much abt how to start the missions
Grind the bounty hunting certifications, thats about it
Oof how long should it take?
Not quite sure, but is a while
Is the Inferno good for bounty hunting?
I'd say so, but for drug collecting and etc, the C2 will be better

I'd assume not since everyone just mentions ERTs, not VHRTs and whatnot
So i should just go bountyhunting in the inferno and grind it, then when i can do ert, just use the c2 for those
That's what I'd do
Cool thx
And might want to ask in combat channel
im on the taurus and on the gunner seat with the tractor beam. how do i bring the cargo closer? scrolling doesnt work
Alt + mouse wheel ?
ty 🙂
When looting cargo from erts, will it let you open cargo docs and doors and ships if they’re soft killed? or is the right way to blow the ship up fully? I just don’t know what the right way of doing this is
Yes, you can open soft killed ships
Could a Hull C sell drugs at at Cru L4?
I think it can. I just wonder how you're going to laod them on
ima def be testing it then
selling is going to be borked
oh i know, just wanna see if its possible
I watched a video of someone loading a Hull C with all the cargo from ERTs, just flinging them casually onto the grid. They landed the Hull C as well with the spindle extended and had it just resting on the spindle. Then flew it to a bunch of different salvage yards to unload what they looted too, but no idea how they were getting in and out of it. I do know the content creator used two accounts / characters, controlling them individually, so maybe they shuttled themselves in and out of the Hull C with a 2nd ship.
wont let me sell 😦
is it the right way to do it? or blow it up?
to steal cargo
is there a site that shows where the doors/elevator/docking collars for each ship?
No that'll destroy half the cargo
Experience ¯_(ツ)_/¯
okay. i tried to board 2 ships that were soft killed but idk where the doors were lol so i blew it up and there were drugs in there that wouldnt fit how i got in lol
it was white and had a ramp but there were segmented rooms of cargo
i might have to youtube ship tours lol
how are we going to make money next patch?
erts are the most fun way
but thats a serious question, im new
yeah but isnt cargo getting removed from erts?
Most likely or it be more common material. 3.22 is purely CM farming and CIG really want to enforce that more since shutting down Breaking Yards didn’t do anything
I do agree somewhat that it needs to be nerfed but not taken completely out
Shutting down scrap yard ? 
Remember when we were not able to sell anything at the Breaking Yards last mini patch or whenever that was? @spare cloud
Mind giving more details ?
Scrap yard weren't nerfed or anything in any of the last patches. They were just a few selling issues, mostly with stacked cargo
Nothing hardly playable
If you enjoy combat, you might consider looking into combat service beacons (though not in the cargo channel). They have always been the highest revenue generation mission in the game once you can find them. Aside from the imbalanced cargo from ERTs and the poorly balanced Reclaimer game loops presently in game.
ok will do once ert cargo gets nerfed. reclaimer is too boring. makes me not want to play lol
Same here
Made 100mil. Bored now
the risk of earning too much, that happened to me in the hayday of trade/mining, earned over 850M aUEC and owned every ship in the game, LOL
Bummed that I didn't break a Billion before the wipe. But I know a few who did
Now I'm going nice and slow, even now I have less than 20M aUEC in my wallet. I'll probably run it slowly up to about 50 or so million aUEC and not much more than that
Have they redued the amount of Weevil Egg spawning in ERTs? I have done 20+ ERTs and only seen 4 SCU
Yes, about a couple of weeks ago
It used to be stupid insane, but everyone once in awhile u find the mother load, couple days ago I had a C2 with about 160 SCU weevil eggs
@earnest sage
is there a way to find out if grim hex or brios is taking certain drugs real time without going there?
Nope
If you go to Brio's, be extra suspicious. Use your PING and check any ships in the area. PING when you get close to see if there are players on the ground as well. IMO, best to head to A18 or MT to sell your drugs at one of those salvage yards, they're 75% less likely to have Pirates waiting.
whats a18 and mt?
Also, CRU-L4 and CRU-L5 have no questions asked terminals in the Galeria that buy drugs.
Area 18, and MicroTech. ArcCorp has a salvage yard on Wala I think its called.
And MicoTech has one on a moon out there.
oaky
ive been lucky only got pirated by real players twice and won both
one time had a lot of eggs
thanks
Ping for infantry doesn't work since a few patches
Like 3.20
Don't count in weight, count in volume. Box you can hold in your hands are 1/8th of a SCU
so practically worthless
can i sell construction materials at brios etc?
Not that I am aware of... Those are generally sold at Admin Stations in the big cities.
free 5mil at Brios? 😄 happy inferno noises
but yeah, Breaking Yards will only take RMC, not CM. you can sell CM at the TDD/Admins at all the major spaceports+Grim hex
And orbital space stations
also do not go to a pvp hotspot with a free 5mil+ of CM unless you be baiting for your fighters to chew on would be attackers
by then though, you be torped by an Eclipse
I will endeavor to prioritize the safety and security of the server's users. If an Eclipse were to pose a threat, appropriate measures would be taken to mitigate any potential damage.
Anyone know any good cargo runs for a C2 Hercules Starlifter?
RMC runs, Gold runs or Beryl. See !tradetools ⬇️
Watch out, the first two are risky
One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.
Thanks man
Dunboro currently broken atm. i even sat the C2 right on top of the Scrap shed and still couldnt buy
See that’s when you put the c2 inside of the scrap shed
Just coat it with butter and it should fit
but yeah it be RMC<-Gold<-Beryl. loool
Ight
trying to scan soft killed erts for cargo, why does my scan keep losing signal?
Hey all, I’m looking for some guidance on which ship to save up my space bucks for. I’m looking for a solo-able multicrew capable multi-purpose ship to be mainly used for cargo, delivery, trading, exploration
So far the suggestions I’ve seen are:
- MSR
- C2
- Constellation (probably Aquila or Taurus?)
- 400i
- 600i
- Carrack
- Corsair
Who’s flown any of these, and what’s your experience been like? Any other suggestions I left out?
Better ask in #ccu-and-fleet-advice 👍
Thanks! I wondered if there was a better channel 😅
anyone have an extra golden ticket?
what ship is that that is basically an open platform that can lift ground vehicles?
@ripe hollow c2 definitely with gattling guns can solo 2 erts missions and then sell all
ad5b
transport or lift like a skycrane?
transport
basically an open platform, u shaped ship lifting it, at the apex of the U shape is where the captain is
none although there is a MPUV skycrane in the works but that be a snub meant to tractor goods to and from cargo/refinery decks
im looking at uexcorp.space/ships. went trhough all transport type vehicles. what should i look for that can carry ground vehicles?
if basic transport then that be a whole range of ships. Cutluss Black, Spirit series, hercules series, starfarer, Zeus series, connie series, 400I, 600I, 890J Jump, freelancer series
okay ty
found it! its the crucible
can it carry ground vehicles do u know?
nvm i cvant buy it with in game money
lol
crucible is more of a repair. not ingame atm
it looked like it can carry but it actually repairs
detachable pod is for repairing fighters as well be open to repair larger/capital ships onsite
i think im gonna get a 400i. can that carry a land vehicle?
from what i remember, only a bike
cargo bay should be able to haul at least a cyclone/ROC?
!fit
Fits, but not recommended
ty
We already know what it’s for. It can add/remove cargo from grids like Hull-C etc. there’s a short video snippet of it in one of the cargo demos. Unfortunately don’t recall if it was Citizen con or ISC.
Not the best choice for carrying a ground vehicle and pricey!
where does a player obtain drugs, which drugs are the best to run, and where do ya run them too once youve obtained some?
also, is it a good way to make some dosh... or would something else be better for making money?
It is, if you got between 40 and 120 SCU of cargo space.
Any more than that, and you'll wait a long time at the terminal for it to restock.
Place like JumpTown have 20 SCU of SLAM, 20 of Widow and a lot more of altruciatoxin, that's just a filler for your space left.
so its not really worth it if you got a little bitty ship
wot would be a recommended ship for running droogs, if youre gonna try your hand at that?
Yeah, with 40 you're really starting to get the best of it, with 20 + 20 SLAM and WidoW
i see... and where can you take these droogs - just brios or are there other places too?
400i, MSR, Cutlass Black, C1, Lancer bace, Lancer MAX
They're good runners
Brio's will buy the drugs
Other scrap yards around other planets
Set a route on !tradetools ⬇️ Select Vice commodities, Allow wait times and your ship
One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.
thanks for the info... guess i need to work towards a cutty black or similar first
I would run the MSR all the time for drug runs if it had a S3 shield
400i is MSR equivalent with S3 shield, both are zooming. But 40 SCU vs 114
40 is what the 400i has izzit?
thats enough though innit... can take all the slam and widow from JT with that one right?
ive got a chain on the go for the Zeus CL that goes through the cutty black
wot would be the "ideal" ship for running droogs?
MSR is an incredible drug runner, but its defaults are big, like that stupid elevator. Worst elevator of the game.
400i or C1 are very good choices
Then Cutty Black
Zeus when it finally gets in game?
Maybe 🤷
might still opt for the origin scrat/cyrill sneer
seems the zeus cl will have size 3 shields according to its info page... or does the little number over the "M" refer to something else?
will have plenty of cargo space - plus tractor beam, potentially 2 main weapons at size 4 & at least one turret at size 3, and 4 missiles size 4 on 2 racks... which dont sound too shabby
i could be misunderstanding the legend though
It just probably wont be as fast (or agile) as the MSR/C1 based on the stats and CIG Q&A
Though, when you factor in the time it takes to enter/exit the MSR, then you're probably not losing out much compared to the CL!
Especially since I believe the CL has a separate entrance to go right to the bridge, vs having to enter from the rear ramp also.
seems like the CL might be an ok choice as an all rounder for cargo of all kinds
and it looks cool too
Yeah, probably a little more enjoyable to fly than the Taurus and hopefully more durable than the MAX.
Taurus beats it in every regard other than speed/agility - or if you hate lifts and must have a ramp as some people prefer.
CL has considerably more cargo space then the c1
That would also depend on if you can enter from that docking ring when in atmo
double the cargo space in fact
Yes and no. The problem with the C1 is that it has a row in the middle where you can put cargo off-grid, but it blocks the rear ramp which is a problem for most people, but you can use the tractor beam to get in and out.
So the CL does have more cargo, but the C1 can easily fit 96SCU with some logistics.
izzit?... yea its listed as having 64 SCU
but you can tetris more in huh
so you can probably tetris even more into the CL as well
It is that way for most ships
makes sense
The CL will have a pretty tight cargo area from all we've seen.
just depends how much risk you like as to blowing up
We got pics of CL full of cargo. There's no room for anything else
But we can't be certain with unreleased ships
well, 128 SCU is a reasonable amount for a ship of that size
and price range
am likely not only gonna be using it for running drugs but many other things
Just pointing to the fact that a full JT has 20 SLAM, 20 WiDow and 74 Altruciatoxin. 114 SCU of drugs 
Also 400i 42, not 40
oh neat, extra 2
heh
ngl, i think the CL will be a good choice overall for cargo and transporting stuff while not being overly expensive and huge - and look cool doing it
guess i'll keep the chain im workin for it
thanks for your input guys, 'preciate the info and opinions... just need CIG to release the bastard now
FYI for those with rentals or refinery jobs
CIG: We are currently planning on going LIVE with 3.22.0a late this evening.
Characters in this new environment will be built from LTP data so items such as medpens, ammo, rentals, and refinery jobs will be lost.
aww we gonna lose all our consoomables again... and i only just built up a nice stock of looted stuff of that nature 
So long as I don't lose my ships
When you don't know, read the rules or ask the mods. Rule 4.
Go to #market-street
sounds good i'll delete my message, thank you
When selling CM what is the best way to box it up first?? Are 16scu boxes worth the most cash per box then 8,4,2,1 per box?
16SCU boxes are worth double 8SCU boxes because they're double the size 🤷 They're all worth the same per SCU
Ah ok - So I would have had 2.106m how ever I'd boxed it....
where to sell construction materials?
In admin offices. In cities, or space stations
whats the name of the web page to check economy?
Check economy, as in seeing stock levels ? No site can tell you real time stock levels
Heard the new patch fixed some stuff with the Hull C?
ye. it made it disapear for some ppl xd
Lol
Hull C makes me sad
Ita such a cool ship but I right now don't see any point I'm buying it with either aUEC or as a pledge
lorville does not take construction materials..
it said "cannot sell" for me
Odd
Nope
Go to the hab district
where are admin?
Forgot what it's called
i am at the spaceport
kk
im looking for a small cheap cargo style ship, something i can use to organize my gear in scu crates, any suggestions?
C1, Hull A, Freelancer series, cutluss black
can i sell building materials at orison?
Whats some of the best trade routes to start doing?
Beryl is great because there seems to be a good supply at any one time. Gold has a high cost and lower volumes. Then there's vice.
Construction Materials? Yes at Providence Platform...
Yes. It's on the industrial platform.
What should I do when Im trying to sell construction material and the admin terminal says "no demand"
Wait
or fly to a different admin office,
admin offices around crusader are overrun with CM because of most reclaimers salvage hammerheads around yela and take the short flight to crusader to sell
Guilty as charged! At Providence Platform - Not seen any no demand messages though when selling...
Talking of - given a 100scu cargo grid what's the best way of boxing CM for max profit or does it not matter because it's a 100scu no matter what boxes you put it in?
The grid is a suggestion
The best way is Tetris.
If the grid says 100 SCU it's 100 SCU if you manage to fill the entire grid, but most ships have extra space off-grid (which might bounce around or block off the room
But yes. Become ungovernable, embrace cargo tetris
You can fit like 2k SCU in a reclaimer if you do that
400 SCU grid btw
I'm using a Reclaimer for CM for loads of money at the moment - Full cargo grids on both the cargo hold and the processing deck have been getting around 1.5 to 1.9m a time
yeah in a reclaimer you want to go off-grid
I took this screenshot way back
You can get way more extreme with it
slow clap
🙂 Hey I might one day... It's just I get bored easily...
bringing a friend makes it a lot more comfortable since you don't gotta run back and forth
(or y'know ask in #looking-for-session people are always desperate for a spot)
🙂 quite happy with what I'm making - That's not including the 250k i get for the clean-up
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How long does it take to be able to sell again
Between 5 and 20 minutes usually
Depending on the terminal refresh rates and how much time was left before a refresh when you arrived
Is it worth the time to bring it in the cargo bay?
Btw what is the cargo bay on the reclaimer for? Theres no grid to put stuff on there
exactly what it is, for cargo. rework for the reclaimer is coming
yea the reclaimer really needs a huge back door that opens up for cargo
There is another floor below that - "Cargo Hold" on the lift button this one has a grid.
The one immediately below the processing deck doesn't have a grid...
I know. But what is it for? It has no grid and its a pain in the ass to put containers on the elevator
I don't know why there is a floor without a grid - It's annoying for me too...
And theres no grid on the elevator...
I know - Wish there was it would make loading the elevator a lot easier
There should be a 3 container grid on the elevator and a 12 container grid on the very bottom 10 container grid on the forge floor and the main hall should have at least a second height on the grid which is already there
Idk how is the reclaimer said to be 420scu of cargo... i barely counted 192 on the grid
hey guys
recently did some mining
and will have acquired a small amount of boxes (2000+) in about 5 hours. How on earth do I transport and sell all of this with only 1 mil and a freelancer rented for 2 more days?
Make a deal with other players to help you haul the loot, sell and pay them. Fixed fees could work to avoid a bite into your proceeds.
thanks
Or you can rent a larger ship than a Freelancer... if you deffinitely want to solo it. A Connie is a good alternative.
only 96 scu tho
thats the biggest rentable hauler and is gonna give me 20 trips
maybe i should just sell in the freelancer until i can afford a taurus
How about talking to another player and renting their ship?
ill try that
whats a good early cargo haul commodity rn?
I did processed food and distilled spirits when I was first learning. Short trips, low investment, lots of supply and demand.
guys how should i start doing this i need to get the money for a ship 1st
anyone wanna buy a golden ticket?
For those that enjoy Hauling HullC Hauling. Did I miss any locations that the HullC can land at?
Do missions you are able with your starter ship and then think about renting a ship you can haul cargo with. The Freelancer is a good choice for this.
Then use cheap rentals to run cargo to buy a ship with a deep cargo bay and work your way up.
Cargo is more profitable and in turn more risky the more you haul around.
Well i made the mistake of filling a Hall C full of Med supplies. All the stations wont buy more than 10scu at a time.
You'll need to sell at a City's TDD
Np, Loreville's is called Central Business District
^ It's in the big hurston dynamics building
also, can sc trade tools be setup to do routes and not just one outpost back and forth?
Has the Hull C been fixed?
i have the avenger titan is it good for cargo?
Mid at best has 8SCU of space you can get by doing cargo runs but its gonna take hours to see any real profit accumulate id say titan is more for delivery missions, bunkers, bounties up to HRT
Imho id grind out bunkers or bounties rent a connie then do cargo hauling but i wouldnt rent until you have some time to sit down and play bc u dont wanna waste ur rent timer if u only have like 2-3 hours to play
ok thx
im looking at trade websites and they say you can make 400k per cargo run with the c2. Is this true?
Yes but that's also by investing several millions
You get 400k profit but it's very risky
It also takes a while for the outposts to fill up
sometimes bed-logging to different region helps and you'll find outpost refilled
but yeah risky
Make 2mil per run with c2: go to Rappel or to an other settelment on Hurston. There u can by Construction material for 7 and a half milion. Fly to ArcCorp and sell it there -> 9mil. But be careful on rappel there are gonna be pepple who try to steal your load, so bring a gun and scan the area befor you land.
how are cargo that ert runs drop nowadays? what exactly got nerfed? and how much average do you make now?
does anyone else fps drop when going to rappel?
cm or rmc?
infinite npc spawn at rappel
why rappel is never suggest unless by those that havent been[only looked at sctools and uexcorp, not from reading discord, those people]
Picker's Field is the go to for RMC. if you want construction material, go do hammerhead cleanups
ty. also, eux is out of date on prices arent they?
rappel is broken, and so are the other settlements in the verse
it seems anything without a landing pad doesent detect your ship
What should I do?
What?
Nvm. I found the answer. Also, rappel is bugged. Only getting 4 fps there cause hundreds of npc spawn on one pixel. Lol
It detects mine fine. But yeah rappel needs fixing
Hi! What kind of loops or missions are there within Cargo/Trading?
Cargo running (buy -> Sell)
Box/Delivery?
Other?
@bronze bough Currently?: As you listed, and then you may be needed as cargo runner during salvage ops, if there is a ship with cargo being salvaged.
Some events also need cargo ships, like Xenothreat and blockade runner events
I made two stops with my reclaimer last night. The first was for Corundum at scd 1 Daymar. The game put those crates in the salvage processing unit. My next stop was the Hammerhead mission. I put those crates around the Corundum. Why didn't it put the cargo in the cargo hold? Be aware of this.
yes me
Oh hadn't heard of those!! Will look them up.
that's interesting - I wonder if you have the option to pick different cargo grids on purchase?
That would be a cool option especially for a big ship like this Reclaimer. What I experienced may be a glitch of course. Definitely avoid stacking othe crate types on top of those. Another bigger hassel thing happened. At scd 1 I parked off pad the ground seemed pretty level but it was not. The rear ramp was like 12 feet off the ground and I had to call up a Fury to get back on the ship. Bridge elevator also way up.
had that issue with the connie taurus frequently!
Do people sell their cm at area 18 or new babbage?
both
every city admin/TDD accepts CM
although if you going into atmosphere it be in a cargo birb or vulture right?
RIP if you even consider taking the reclaimer into atmo
I sell at A18 because it's capacity for sold goods is about 10x the size of other cities.
Far more likely to be able to buy large amounts of CM or RMC
And you can store ship there
Yeah but its worth it
Area 18
is it worth it to buy the c2? (@ me if you answered)
Yeah
You can also go to any other settelment
how much money do you get per hour of doing trade routes?
i always went to new babbage. but area 18 pays 100auec less lol
for reclaimer runs
Like depends if u do no risk like 500k and high risk like going to rappel by cm and sell them at area 18 or new babage
its rmc at rappel right?
I meen the problem of rappel
yeah. so annoying to land at rappel
I think cm dk
someone said you cant buy cm anywhere
You can also go to any other settelment
Yeah thats right
But rappel is a bit safer
Idk
what do you have right now
Obvious answer would be to just save for a cat or a c2 though
hum I have a Nomad but the 24scu isn't really great
And how much aUEC?
doesn't matter much i can farm I think
C2 or caterpillar
Down to your preference then
Hull-C is busted last I heard of it
so don't bother with that
but like im looking for a good ship to play with some friends and maybe making it my starter, some ship that I can do cargo run when my friends are not here
Oh so you want to pledge one?
Or, buy with aUEC?
more like pledge
What price range?
to farm aUEC
and I'd assume for trading specifically
around 130 max
Total or extra? 
Yeah, idk why but i love trading
I know how it is
I'm just waiting for it to get better rn
total, even tho i'd love to be able to spend it as extra
yeah thought about it but its a little expensive
But in your case, Hull-A, base freelancer, cutty black or C1
I thought about buying the normal FL and then might upgrade again some day
Anything that works for you
I think I'll go with normal FL, kinda love the ship's design and being able to play with a few friends

thx for the help
can the hull C trade at jump-points?
can area18 TDD be out of demand of rmc?
yes that can happen
But much less likely and it would take much longer
Any idea what the largest rental ship you can rent?
Biggest cargo hold or biggest ship itself ?
Biggest cargo hold.
Andromeda
Merci.
is pickers field to arc corp with RMC the best route right now?
is it just me or did the change to the locations stockpile pretty much ruin a lot of trading?
anyone got a redeemer farm going?
Click the server name in the list of channels and check "Show all channels" if it isn't 👍
Is this site upto date regarding prices?
More or less
Thx
uexcorp.space has CMAT, for example, but they got the old value displayed at half the places, and is far more confusing to use IMO
tradetools have cmat, but they simply didn't enter a value for it 🤷
We're working on it 😄
I'm hoping to have everything up to date soon, with an even better system than before!

raft or c1?
I'd say C1, can fit as much as the Raft, with a 32SCU container off grid, but flies better
that's true I just like the raft when it comes to the look, if they had walk in containers then Raft would be my number one
If i go to salvage missions and only take the cargo inside ships would i be able to make a decent profit or is it a waste of time?
so, cant take from a team members ship and put it on a Cull C....
good thing I tested that first.
Typically cargo missions don’t give great cargo from a selling perspective. Doesn’t take long to scrape though.
Found some gold from destroyed ship,tried to sell it at wala and celin but getting unregistred item(illegal or stolen)
Didnt try admin office at grim hex
try NQ terminals at Lagrande stations but cant remember which had them usually they are at lockers area
Strange thing is that illegal terminals show that gold is sellable but showing unregistred item while “normal” terminals show that items are not sellable
Have feeling like i need crypto key or something to make terminal buy gold
The Gold can't be sold at a TDD terminal?
Salvaged gold,not bought
Ok thanks for the update.
how are profits looking for hull c

