industrial-professions

[blissful wadi]

and makes it really annoying for us that want to do it the right way

[ruby dirge]

its a weird catch 20/20 where we dont know a lot of the outliers

is it intentional? Is it bugged? Is it an oversight? hope they will at least comment on it tomorrow, and not just ghost fix/patch it

[blissful wadi]

honestly I think that when you blow a ship up, the cargo inside gets damaged or destroyed

I mean, if you put a bomb on a truck and blow it up, most of the cargo is gone

[ruby dirge]

it is what happens now

[blissful wadi]

and with the explosions these ships make, nothing should be there lol

[delicate girder]

I haven't see 20 million lately. I think CIG was maybe turning it down a little at a time.

[blissful wadi]

or make it so that its person based

[ruby dirge]

you can soft death the ship having a lot of it intact, which is quite hard to do, or blow it up and only have a few boxes

[blissful wadi]

so lets say @ruby dirge sells 50 boxes, he is on cool down

but I can still sell my 50 boxes.

[delicate girder]

?

[blissful wadi]

read above @delicate girder

[ruby dirge]

still at the end of the day, the main takeaway in my opinion is this is all still testing phase, and we will rock back and forth a lot before economy and gameloops are balanced

[delicate girder]

You have to measure your shots. One or two extra shots will blow the ship.

[blissful wadi]

or keep it how it is, but make it so that once you steal those boxes, you get a CS3. makes you a target to a lot of people, and the potential of having people on you

[ruby dirge]

i know the big plus is that when testing looting the ships on the ground is massively bugged with glitching out trough the ship, dying cause falling and majorly inconvenient to move around shows there is work to be done to the soft-death ships

[blissful wadi]

wait, that would lock people to only GH

nvm

[ruby dirge]

yup which is why it is fine imo that you have all the cargo if you manage to soft death the ship, since its a "skill" of sorts

[delicate girder]

LOL!

[ruby dirge]

plus dont forget the hassle of getting the shit out of some ships haha, it been a helluva job sometimes. Spend hours managing to either enter, tractor beam or rotate the shit out of the ship, which was VERY buggy

[blissful wadi]

make it so that they are marked maybe?

so that other players can come and try and find them

or have it be broadcasted across

[ruby dirge]

there is heaps of balancing to be had, and i think CIG is on top of that. The current situation seems more bug than intention but we'll only know for sure once they adress it

plus a lot of data gathered from all the scumbags (myself included) having fun grinding bounty

[delicate girder]

CIG balances with a sledge hammer so it will no doubt sling wildly back and forth.

[ruby dirge]

hahaha ain't that the truth

[delicate girder]

Time to play on the EPTU for a day ot two.

[iron rune]

I don't think they're really trying to balance for game health or economy currently as discussed by some of you.

In my opinion:

Having people try and extract cargo out of a carrack bounty is lots of great testing for them.

Having more people with illicit goods on ships dealing with security is good testing.

Having players funneled towards PvP hot beds of scrap yards with cargo to fight for is good testing data as well.

[ruby dirge]

fully agree on that

[iron rune]

the sell bug right now I think is indeed a bug. But, I left my tinfoil hat in my other hab

[ruby dirge]

only 2 points i have with this whole debacle is 1. they have to at least balance it a bit so people dont reach millionaire too quick and they dip out cause no more motivation for them and 2. the sledgehammer method where they axe something cause they let it rampant too much, which ruin nice little gems of excitement when you hit it big.

But fully agree that actual balance is not needed nor looked at, plus a weekend without selling is also a sort of a mini event to see how people react to it

all responses are data at the end, be it positive or negative 😛

[iron rune]

Yeah, I do agree it's not good gameplay to let people get so rich without really anything truly to spend it on but here we are

Money just means ships mostly right now. Cargo, mining, and salvage just means money.

Until you can use those resources for other things (crafting, base building and what not), it's not going to be a very fulfilling economy anyways imho

[simple ingot]

Economy in alpha is hardly indicative of economy long term. Kind of weird to be overly worried about it. It's obviously unbalanced, but it's also an incredible tool for pushing players through gameplay loops for test data.

Ignoring that, this particular game play loop can be pretty high risk and warrants a high reward. Can easily put in significant time looking for the cargo to lose it to a couple of players camping a scrap yard.

[ruby dirge]

i mean your missing the whole point of a lot of players even with those risks being able to get millions of profit within a very short timespan, burning them out on other modes cause they dont make as much money, eventually losing interest

still, fully agree on the pushing players toward a certain gameloop part, that is fully spot on.

but if that leads to people now having all they want to ever buy, what motivates them to play other game loops? Go mine for 200k an hour? Go scrap for 500k an hour?

[simple ingot]

Again.. alpha.

[ruby dirge]

yup agree on that as well. Perfect balance is not what the most people here are promoting. Tis more the other side of the scale, the size of the unbalance that worries me (and others as well from what i seen) that it 1. pushes players away from other loops once they have everything they want, diminishing the player base who normally test out other ventures to make money and 2. CIG responding in a knee jerk reaction with a sledgehammer to the whole fun part of the bounty hunting, cause it is very fun, risky and rewarding getting a ship to soft death and finding it filled with goodies!

[simple ingot]

Whole game is unbalanced, i can tow 20 hammer heads for 5 mil with minimal risk and effort. If I really wanted cash.

[ruby dirge]

thing with that is you can only do that with an SRV right?

don't know too much about that whole loop tbh so not sure what you need for it. what comes to mind with it is if it was that easy for all players to do that, they would.

instead, they are doing bounty missions haha

[simple ingot]

It's easy for anyone with a wallet full of cash and nothing better to spend it on except for a one role vehicle with no other game play.

It's mind numbingly boring todo but you can earn $250k within 6 minutes.

[ruby dirge]

yeah i get ya haha! Thing is gotta look at the big picture for that, most players try to go with their starter ships and find a gameloop to make money that suits them. They find out bounty gets insane amount of money, they do this and this alone cause big bucks, and then have all the money untill the next time CIG wipes, with no reason to try out other ventures, and even be demotivated or dissapointed by other ventures like mining since it makes less, leading to the majority of players not spreading out doing different shit what you want from an alpha.

Still your point holds true of a true economy not having a place in a alpha. Its just this massive imbalance brings other complications with it imo and i hope they don't knee jerk about it. I word-waterfalled way too much already today sorry for whoever is reading it, i think its a really fun subject and love balancing and look forward to gameloops with a lot of variety and little gems like finding a C2 filled with drugs as a small chance of doing bounty missions once the game is more complete down the line.

[steady jasper]

How long before the sell bug goes away any clue?

[tall stratus]

When 3.22 comes out

[steady jasper]

Oooofff when's that

[fickle dune]

have they said when they plan to drop this next patch?

[tall stratus]

Maybe next week

[mossy palm]

-Soon- (tm)

[tall stratus]

Hey eagle

[mossy palm]

yeah?

[steady jasper]

Ahh ok

[fickle dune]

soon......

[tall stratus]

Everytime we ask for 3.22 they push it back an hour

[waxen coral]

Is there anywhere we can go to sell illegal cargo or is all of it broken

[leaden wasp]

is selling drugs bugged or simply saturated atm? ppl in game stating bugged but idk

[mossy palm]

Its all broken. Not just illegal, But ALL trading is fucked. Cant even sell FPS loot.

[drowsy rune]

I sold maze/widow/neon litterally yesterday afternoon, what is this bug?

[waxen coral]

Even stuff like iron or gold?

[heady pollen]

I will be the sole reason we do not get 3.22 until 2024

[heady pollen]

damnn so its useless to go pick up a bunch of gold?

[tall stratus]

You'll be the reason I go to jail

[heady pollen]

what i’m hearing is I need to join your servers

[drowsy rune]

I guess, i sold a lot of goods yesterday no problem. Illegal and legal

The only thing i had trouble selling was aphorite but you could still sell it 1 by 1

Id test today but my internet has been down the last 8 hours so couldnt play today

[tall stratus]

Mmm, what server

[drowsy rune]

Probably us east if thats a server

Never really paid attention to which one i was in

[tall stratus]

So mine

Gross

[dusty nimbus]

So wait the PU is broken rn for trading?

[tall stratus]

Yes

[mental bobcat]

I had liberated some goods while bounty hunting and found that I could not sell it anywhere. Nowhere had any demand. Is that the bug?

[grand frigate]

Yes

No refresh of commodities

[mental bobcat]

I see. I guess all that e'tam will need to wait

[grand frigate]

Yeah. Problem is this bug affects others gameplay like cargo or selling parts ships/fps loots

[obsidian dock]

Just picked up SC and am a lil bummed that trading is unavailable for now.

Is there any good delivery/bounty missions or such to do in the meantime?

Wanna get that dragonfly to rip around on planets lol

[iron rune]

The bounty hunter missions should work decently well. Box delivery missions should also work ok!

[mossy palm]

@heady pollen

Yes to both, unless CIG managed to fix the economy background server in the meantime.

[mossy palm]

Bounty hunters work a-ok, box deliveries are hit and miss. Sometimes delivery destination spots for box placement get bugged.

[earnest hornet]

econ/supply/demand background process is backed up harder than a constipated elephant in a 3 ring circus

gonna have to wait for the netops crew to figure that one out, if they're even allowed to (given how close .22 is likely to hit PU anyway and that'll just refresh everything along the way)

[elfin heath]

Has terminals been fixed yet?

for selling drugs

[teal sorrel]

Doubt its like 4:30 in LA

[elfin heath]

Has anyone tried selling in the last hour?

[tall stratus]

It's 7 in the morning in LA

[idle anvil]

probably won't be turned on until the update

[elfin heath]

Player reported selling some within the hour

Did CIG turn it off?

[idle anvil]

From what I've heard from others yeah, but I haven't seen a confirmation anywhere.

[elfin heath]

Yeah I couldn’t see them doing that tbh

Probably just speculation

Personally I think it’s a back end bug due to mass amounts of selling, probably didn’t expect this many drugs to be sold so frequently

[idle anvil]

could be. someone over in #looking-for-session said it's working again.

[tall stratus]

Give it 24 hours

[elfin heath]

Yeah some guy in game like 2 ish hours ago said he sold a bunch of eggs

[stoic trout]

Yep it's actually working could sell my drug and get the alert of the commodity price, it look like fixed

[ruby dirge]

same here! slowly its coming back 🙂

[fresh abyss]

does anyone know if the cargo on illegal bounties is generally more lucrative than legal?

[ruby dirge]

its a big money maker

sometimes a hassle to get out of their ships and to get all of it out(dont blow it up :P) but overall very fun and rewarding gameloop. Bit too rewarding if you ask me but maybe they already nerfed it gonna start the loop again tonight

[fresh abyss]

this is for the illegal one yes?

[ruby dirge]

yup

oh

sorry i misunderstood, you mean illegal bounty contracts! No the legal ones are the ones bringing in the dough, but you gotta have a high rep with the bounty guild

there aint really any illegal bounty missions afaik? Just mercenary?

[fresh abyss]

ah okay, yea someone said the mercenary ones where you kill the security does the same thing. When did they nerf the bounties?

[ruby dirge]

not sure if they have, just saying i wouldn't be surprised if they had when i start it again

[fresh abyss]

ah got you thank you

[steady jasper]

I sold my load

So it's working

[elfin heath]

Did you have eggs in your cargo?

[glossy peak]

i sold eggs and maze a few mins ago,

[elfin heath]

I just went, no demand on eggs bnut i guess soemone eols before me

[glossy peak]

was it at R+D on hurston?

[dull wadi]

oh its really fixed?

[elfin heath]

Not sure, I still can sell eggs

I’ve tried wana 3x today with a few hours space out per attempt

No demand

[dull wadi]

oh okay

[stoic trout]

I just sell 100scu of eggs but it's difficult to sell drug but you can

[drowsy rune]

How much are eggs worth?

[wintry salmon]

112,000 per SCU

[drowsy rune]

Wow, same locations as illegal goods to sell?

[wintry salmon]

Yep. Except GrimHEX

[dull wadi]

damn nice! I only have 8scu to sell but I still wanna sell it

[elfin heath]

Have eggs gone down in price

I made a few 100k less than what I should have made

Last I check eggs were 110k per SCU

Last I check eggs were 110k per SCU

[ruby dirge]

they around 106k now, still 100k+ so big money

[elfin heath]

Yeah I figured they dropped a bit, not sure what the point in knocking of 4k was 😆 did you get this number from a terminal?

[ruby dirge]

yup! the demand is NOT on high though, its on low demand and the other prices are fluctuating a bit as well following how high/low the demand is atm, might be a bit more moving prices, driven by demand?

[mossy palm]

Heads up, economy has been fixed, you can trade now.

[dusty nimbus]

I cannot buy slam still so

[mortal hinge]

really?

[dusty nimbus]

Trade terminals are still fucked

Utterly so

I just wanna buy slam for the love of christ

[dark folio]

Maybe try server hopping? Might be on a server that isn't corrected yet

[mortal hinge]

good idea

[dark folio]

Some people are running into the same issues and some are reporting it's totally fixed. Sounds to me like there's a gradual rollout

[mortal hinge]

im about to go do some vhrt and see for myself

[dusty nimbus]

Oh so wait they did fix it

And what was the fix supposed to do?

[delicate girder]

Probably only fixed on certain servers which have restarted or something.

Could also be that CIG didn't fix anything and the servers are finally resetting on thier own a bit.

And yes, I do know that the commodity levels are across all servers, BUT the problem(s) still could be local to a server.

[unborn coyote]

selling fixed?

[elfin heath]

It’s cleared up, not sure if it’s "Fixed" or how long it will last

[delicate girder]

It's not totally fixed, but fixed enough to bring out the pirates and make Brio's a blood bath again.

Just tried to sell and sold some before getting kilt! LOL! Enjoy the spoils juba_pacca.

[mental bobcat]

Yes. Seems to be clearing up. I was able to sell my loot at scrapyards and indeed I was challenged when boarding my ship again by an opportunist who probably did not realise my ship was empty.

So I lifted a 32 SCU container of processed food nearby and had a fortnite moment where I simply placed an obstacle in front of them to force them to switch from a gun while I ran for my boarding lift

[slow plank]

lol

[formal shadow]

Question.
When escorting things like a hull D or other big cargo vessel.
What escort ship is optimal? Perseus? Hammerhead? Polaris? Javelin?

[mental bobcat]

Depends on the manpower you have available. A couple of entirely crewed hammerheads will be pretty nasty to encounter

[hidden pulsar]

What I would like is in the future is to have a way to have a cargo gantry and be able to Dock ship to ship and actually transfer SCU Cargo either by a truck or conveyer system. I feel utilising tractor technology is 1. Arbitrary and 2.Cumbersome, but at current time of design the only feasible way with the current game mechanics. Or have something similar to what the Hull C utilised at space stations. Being able to transfer cargo ship to ship using a commodity style console, when they are within range of one another. But only the ship carrying the cargo can initiate transfer

Like if say you have a full crew operating a Reclaimer, Arrastra or an Orian, being able to transfer refined cargo between ships in space without having to return to a station or having to manually transfer goods 1 at a time. Would bring it in line with what larger ships should be capable of.

[vestal ravine]

Bring a fully crewed Redeemer. Powerful.

[graceful kiln]

I'd say anything that can handle ships smaller than the Hull D. I wouldn't expect much Capital or very large ships going after Hulls, since those ships would be more difficult to get around in. Groups of bombers and the like will be the primary things you'd go after a Hull with, if you were going to at all (which I don't think will be common at all)

[formal shadow]

I doubt anyone will try destroying a hull

The plan will probably be to board it. You’re not gonna be tractor beaming 20,000 scu over to a new cargo vessel

[graceful kiln]

Actually, I think you'll see more destroyed Hulls, than ones that get their cargo stolen

the main form of profit-earning from Hull Piracy is gonna be ransoms

because of the cargo issue, yeah

low-margin, high-volume cargo's difficult to make use of as a pirate

and, because of the size of the ships and with upcoming armor/etc changes, the D and E are gonna need a lot of firepower to really threaten. Otherwise it's gonna be like a lone hyena or two going after a Rhino

[plain silo]

I’m just starting out and only have the aurora mr but what would you recommend be my first cargo vehicle?

[random marsh]

Depends on how much you want to haul, if you want the maximum as a solo player and only cargo, one of the hull ships would be your best bet

Theres more versatile ships like the C1 spirit or the more combat oriented Cutlass Black

[dapper mica]

I saw a website that works out how much you make hauling but can't remember what it was called, anyone know what it is?

[plain silo]

I would like a hauling mainly one what would you recommend as a cheaper starter type of those ships

[random marsh]

Cutlass is a good all rounder, you can do cargo hauling, transporting people and combat

Mainly hauling, depends on how big you want to go, i have a Zeus that will be 128 (?) SCU which is a medium freighter for daily driving, it has some more stuff and can land anywhere

Hulls are cargo only and can only leave cargo in specific places due to how the ship is built

But you can haul enormous amounts of cargo

I'd recommend a C1 spirit if you don't mind the builder, 64 SCU and has firepower to defend itself

[plain silo]

How much is that in game?

[random marsh]

Can't buy it in game yet

Will probably be around 2 million

If you will grind for it, then cutlass black

1,385,300 aUEC

I'd recommend renting it and seeing if you like it

[iron rune]

https://sc-trade.tools/home

[plain silo]

Oh okay then, what’s a good way of saving up for it should I do mining or pve or is there any good ways?

[iron rune]

Bounties, bunkers, beacons, smuggle drugs on the aurora

[plain silo]

Thanks

[plain silo]

How much do drugs give you on average?

[iron rune]

You'd make like 11k per run lol

I take back my recommendation to do that

If you wanted to practice the drug smuggling/trading loop it'd be worth doing but I don't think it's a really awesome way to make money

[plain silo]

What about doing a bit of pve then renting a cutty black and doing it that way how much would that make? But I probably will practice it a bit.

[iron rune]

That's with a cutlass black @plain silo

[random marsh]

Its not amazing no, you must enjoy it to be worth doing

I will add, there is no hauling quests so its on you to get the currency to be able to buy the cargo

Transport it

Then get what you spent and the profits

[drowsy rune]

Pve low risk or very low risk bounties are a decent way to make money early. You can defeat them pretty easily in any starter ship. Or you could even rent the cutty black for 27k if you wanted more firepower or wanted to try cargo

You can also rent the cuttlass black and the roc miner and do gem mining. Once you learn how its probably about 100-150k an hour. Total cost for renting them both is like 34k so you make the money back usually in the 1st run. Just do your research 1st, dont go in blind

[plain silo]

K thanks

[mossy palm]

!Uexcorp

[grand frigate]

So i just lost 120 SCU of gold (lost 600k investment to be precise) with a trading bug ?
Was processing infinitely during selling so i tried an other screen.
Ended with an empty cargo and didn't get paid
Also tried to buy a multitool and transaction failed so i think the system is broken

[mossy palm]

Nah, CIG cooking something, so servers are overheating. Also,were you on EU servers?

[delicate girder]

In that case go to the nearest ASOP and if the ship says anything but destroyed (location unknown or whatever) just wait and DON'T claim the ship. Even if the ship is near you and appears to be empty, you may have a chance. Leave it there and you may get it back with cargo within three days or so. I've done this and recovered cargo.

On the other hand of it's only 600k or so instead of 3 million and up, the value of using the ship may be worth more than the loss.

Even though this is slightly different, just a few days ago I have a glitch at Orison when I stored my loaded C2 and it fell through the hanger to the center of Crusader. Watched its marker fall away from me for a half hour or so (around 30,000 km at that point) before I logged off. Its status was unknown until three days later when it came back to me with its cargo intact.

[oak ore]

Guys, I want something bigger to haul in. Been using the MSR and it’s pretty decent, but what’s better for a solo pilot to fly freight in? I’d LOVE a C2 Herc, but am wary now due to the upcoming engineering mechanics

[vestal ravine]

I have had the C2 a long time and I think that ship will be valid for freight hauling for a long time still. If you have the 1.4 million to fill it with top cargo you can make the bigger profits. It also works well for hauling smaller vehicles and can ram ships if you are doing bounties. (You can fly mine if you want..)

[oak ore]

Right on man. Problem is I can get the ship but don’t have that much cash to fill it lol

Need to keep running as is for now I guess, thicken my bank account 😁

[elfin rune]

You can start small and grow profit, theres commodities with all range of prices

You can try food or meds

[random marsh]

I thought the roc was bugged? Tried using it a few weeks ago and it kept spawning gems really far

Had to keep moving my ship around as the gem nodes never stood in place, when i got to them the roc also didn't work

Arm didn't deploy

[random marsh]

I wouldn't mind lending you my cutlass for a ride

So you can check how it handles and how much cargo it can move

I also have a C1 Spirit

Which cannot be obtained with the game's currency, but if you plan to pledge for it, you can get it

[drowsy rune]

The last time i did it was a few days ago but it worked for me

[random marsh]

I will try it today then

Thank you!

[drowsy rune]

Initally the mining arm was weird but you hit m for mining mode, you can hit u and it poped out for me

[plain silo]

It’s fine but thanks

[plain silo]

Would it be better to get the hull a instead of the cutty black bc its around the same price but has more scu space

[random marsh]

Cutlass is able to do hauling and combat

You can also transport people

And you can land it anywhere

Hulls you cannot do that with

Whenever a hull deploys for hauling, you cannot land it

[mental bobcat]

Consider the Freelancer series. They are old as designs but they are effective

[plain silo]

Okay then I’ll have a look into them

[waxen coral]

Does selling work now, or still no demand?

[mossy palm]

Should be working now.

[oak ore]

Well I missed my opportunity to buy my Herc 😕 So, of what’s available for purchase in the pledge store now, is the Connie Taurus my best bet as an upgrade to the MSR for solo cargo hauling?

[graceful kiln]

Yeah, the Taurus is likely the best for the solo cargo role, overall

[drowsy rune]

How much are the eggs worth again? And where can you sell them?

[elfin rune]

any idea Hull C price ingame?

[elfin rune]

you can always buy in greymarket if you want to spend cash

[graceful kiln]

it was around the 15mil mark on the EPTU I believe

[graceful kiln]

or... just wait for it to turn up again. It'll come around before too long

[oak ore]

I got that Connie Taurus and am liking it a lot so far after a few runs. Quantum drive is slow though - Which one should I buy to upgrade?

[mossy palm]

XL-1

S2 Military Grade A

[latent drift]

Military QDs are amazing. My C1 is so freaking fast haha.

[oak ore]

Thanks guys

[oak ore]

Will I need to upgrade powerplant too or no?

[drowsy rune]

I didnt, im flying taurus too. I just upgraded weapons, QD, and shields

[oak ore]

Perfect, thanks. Just bought and installed my XL-1 (woohoo, first ship mod! -noob)

If you have time, I'm curious what you put in for weapons and shields too

[drowsy rune]

I did FR-86 for shields and for weapons i did 2 Omnisky XV, 2 Omnisky XII which are on mounts. I left the turret the same. All can be found on area 18 or orision

2 have to stay on mounts otherwise i would have put 4 Omnisky XV

[oak ore]

Right on.

Real quick, I equipped the XL-1 in the vehicle manager and saved changes (shows it as equipped), but it still shows up in my local inventory - Is that normal, like until I spawn the ship again?

[drowsy rune]

I would thing the one that the ship used to have would be in local, not the XL-1. But yea maybe spawn it and check again. Make sure it has the right drive in.

Could always just log out and back in too and see

[oak ore]

Re-logging fixed it. Thanks man

[crisp bobcat]

how can you tell when stock is restocked?

[alpine fractal]

You can wait, but also if you keep getting "Commodity Update Alert" alerts then you are at least able to sell!

[crisp bobcat]

I was able to sell in 10 minutes or so. Just didn't know if the shops were on a timer or not.

[drowsy rune]

Yea every shop has a different timer for different commodities. Like X might refresh 20scu per minute meaning you can sell 20 scu of X every minute. Same with buying. They also have caps, like can can only sell a max of 100scu until it refreshs its stock every minute

[crisp bobcat]

Thanks

[ornate halo]

Guess this might not be the best channel for it but general is way to active and ive messaged here before. do we know if they nerfed VHRT/ERT cargo?

[mossy palm]

YOu mean assload of drugs/quant? Yeah, they did that way back in 3.21.

[ornate halo]

I mean it was the meta as of yesterday

I just meant going from 3.21-.22

[mossy palm]

Nothing in patch notes.

[ornate halo]

Sweet

And no wipe! All my saving for a c2 wasn't completely in vain(i know ill lose it eventually)

[idle anvil]

yeap

[alpine fractal]

Even if they nerfed it, which I believe they should, the C2 is still immensely good, even if the cargo is nerfed, 'cause it's strong, has a crap ton of turrets, and will make you millions (plural) while full

[thorny loom]

As anyone ad trouble selling construction material?

[ornate halo]

What did they do to it?

[half solstice]

someone said CM can be sold at Admin

not TDD, but i cannot say with certainty as i have yet to sell

[stable pivot]

Anyone got issues with cargo not snapping in the vulture?

[graceful kiln]

its always been a bit finnicky

[elfin rune]

Hull C on sale ingame?

[wet barn]

How much did you see it at?

[elfin rune]

15ish M

[ornate halo]

W

Where?

Idk why I’m asking like I can afford it lmao

[idle anvil]

probably new deal

[ornate halo]

Cool

[elfin rune]

Yah new deal, lorvile

[glad reef]

Any ideas for good traderoutes for the Hull C? SC.trade.tools still has problems with the Hull C.

[ornate halo]

Try https://uexcorp.space it’s more updated

[celest panther]

what is the best thing/resource to trade to make the most money

[rough ingot]

Drugs

[celest panther]

nah like to do actual trade routes with

you cant do trade routes w drugss lol

[rough ingot]

The most valuable drugs that can be purchased are slam widow etam neon altruciatoxin

Huh?

[celest panther]

?

[mossy palm]

Gold and Beryl.

[celest panther]

you can trade route drugs?

[mossy palm]

If you want good value legal goods.

[rough ingot]

Absolutely

[celest panther]

huh?? from where

[rough ingot]

Just go on yt and look up drug locations, there's plenty

[mossy palm]

Drugs nowadays are mostly scavenging from wrecks and then hauling ass to Brios hoping you wont get ganked.

[rough ingot]

Pirated

But true, only chumps actually pay for the drugs they sell nowadays

[mossy palm]

Doesnt help that JT is active again, so cops are sniffing asses again.

[celest panther]

also, with the HULL C, are you not able to get cargo from ground places like shubin mining facilities, etc, because of how its cargo works? or

i thought JT not active till 21st or something

[mossy palm]

Yeah, HullC is special, its trading is mostly between orbital stations and jump point stations.

[rough ingot]

Hull c can only really trade at the manor orbital sta

Yeah, what he said

[celest panther]

so you cant really trade gold with it then.. can you

[rough ingot]

No

Theres not enough supply anyway

[mossy palm]

No, I dont think so. What ship you have?

[rough ingot]

This is a hull c hypothetical

And the answer is no

You physically cannot get gold on the hull c and even if you could theres nowhere near enough supply

And you would absolutely get pirated waiting for it

[mossy palm]

Madlad of friend managed to loadup some refinery orders onto HullC, but fucking Orison wouldnt want to buy it from ship.

[surreal glade]

I got a caterpillar. What is the most useful things I could trade

[mossy palm]

Anything really, drugs for pure money, gold and beryl if you want to stay legal.

[surreal glade]

Also, according to some trade routes, how much could I make per hour? Is hauling finally at a place where good money can be made?

[glad reef]

Thx, is there any way to limit the tradegoods/routes to stations the Hull C can reach on that hp? Also the hp is not showing where to buy and where to sell. Or I am too dumb ^^

[ornate halo]

idk sorry

I think you can just do any space station right?

If you use the main page you can pick hull c as your ship and cycle through the commodity options to see profit estimates. Then once you see one you want just use like google to see where you can do it with hull c

[mossy palm]

No ide aabout that, you'll either have to play around with UEXCorp website or calculate it yourself.

[ornate halo]

I think ur gonna have some issues filling up a CAT with gold lol. Low supply for it. Ive seen people say heph and beryl are good for larger ships @surreal glade

[mossy palm]

Distilled spirits are not bad either, I think.

[ornate halo]

Arent those hard to sell in bulk tho? idk i dont remember maybe im thinking of something else

[mossy palm]

Medical supplies are hard to sell.

[ornate halo]

yeah thats what it was

[surreal glade]

Where are distilled spirits sold?

[oak ore]

Shady Glen Farms on Wala is good lately

[mossy palm]

All farms are good.

[oak ore]

What’s yall’s go to all-around space trucker armor that can handle both hot and cold climate for a limited time (running between ship and outpost buildings, etc.)

[worthy scroll]

I'm a fanatical box runner, I just use whatever I feel like wearing. 99% of the time it's light armor in whatever undersuit that fits my preferred style at the moment.

[oak ore]

Right on. Yeah, I haven’t died yet to climate also just wearing whatever, but was just curious if there’s some ideal suits

[worthy scroll]

The environmental suits are going to be the "best", especially if you end up stranded somewhere.

[stable pivot]

Anyone know of a work around to cargo not snapping into place? I can fix it if I file a claim but that isn't always practical

[bold yew]

just store and pull the ship?

[blissful wadi]

anyone know if the deploy probe missions end up paying more?

[oak ore]

So coming back to the game after a few years I’ve forgotten some game mechanics and am curious about “best practices” while hauling cargo, specifically when landing at planetary outposts. Thank you to anyone taking the time to answer all these.

1. Ramp, etc: Should you always close this behind you when running into the admin building? Does it matter, can other players enter your ship with the button anyway?
2. Ship power: Leave on or turn off every time you exit the ship and why?
3. Aside from them physically removing it out of your ship, are there other ways cargo be stolen? (saw someone yesterday mention they were making millions stealing cargo at Brios all day)
4. When you’re approaching a planetary and you see a red ship marker in the area, do you always just fly away and go buy/sell somewhere else? (I know this one is more personal risk profile)

[spare cloud]

Yeah always close your ship behind you

People can't use the buttons, they can only fire at the ramps/elevators to force it open

Don't turn the ship down, you need your shields, but turn engines off

You don't want your ship to start hovering for some random reason and fly away because of wind or any random shit

[molten crow]

1. Yes. When someone gets in your ship, he can fly away and steal your cargo.
2. Power on, always engine off. When someone bumps your ship off the pad, it starts to hover. You can't get in, someone else can with another ship.
3. Only by physically stealing/looting cargo.
4. I personally scan/tag first to see what it is, but I usually go elsewhere.

[oak ore]

Awesome, thank you guys for the responses.

[vestal ravine]

also when leaving with cargo preset the QT destination and make sure its on the same side of the planet.

[oak ore]

Just make sure you do it before taking off or even earlier than that?

[molten crow]

You want to do that before take off and you leave the armistice zone. So basically when landing make a 180° turn toward the way you came from.

[honest grove]

Does anyone know if you still have to separate out your cargo in order to sell it? For a while you couldn’t sell if you had (for instance) Neon on top of Widow or a mismatched stack basically.

[nimble epoch]

Any cargo missions that are worth doing that make use of small ships with cargo space like Mustang and Sylen?

[honest grove]

No cargo missions yet. There are delivery missions where you transport handheld/carryable packages. Think UPS/FedEx.

[wet barn]

Anyone know if there is a trading app/website like SC trade or something that actually works now? If not, how do y'all find good trade routs?

[oak ore]

Did the patch break all the trade sites?

[wet barn]

SC trade hasn't been accurate since a while ago it seems. Something related to how it gathers its data and how it can't do that now due to the patches. I think since 3.21

[spare cloud]

You won't ever find anything more accurate than tradetools

[oak ore]

Interesting. Well, it’s at least been accurate enough to be useful to me lately. But if there’s something better I’d also be interested to know.

[uneven sun]

There's an app they've developed, it's in beta currently, that takes a screen shot of the trade terminals and uploads automatically to keep them accurate, the more people we get on that the better the info will be, worth looking at

[mossy palm]

UEXCorp

[spare cloud]

Tradetool still better

[karmic sleet]

are weevil eggs not selling at NQA stations?

[mental bobcat]

Yeah. You have to sell them at salvage yards. Makes them dicy to try to sell.

[earnest hornet]

personally proud of this one

[mossy radish]

so is there any place i can sell unregistered construction materials reliably?

[runic mango]

No demand for RMC everywhere I’ve tried

[earnest hornet]

so many people salvaging

[half solstice]

ive never had issues at a18

100+ scu rmc

[vagrant mantle]

SO I got the Hull C ship but I'm litteraly hopless right now
is anyone willing or want to play the game with me and take me step by step and we spliut the profit
do not worry will put all the money in

[fervent tapir]

what are you planning to move?

[vagrant mantle]

me?

anything honestly

from 1 station to another

idk what to move and how to do it

new to Hull C and begginer for trading

[fervent tapir]

legal cargo or illegal cargo?

we can convoy if you want

[vagrant mantle]

legal for the moment ilegal I have different metherns
:P

shale we make a voice chanal?

[fervent tapir]

sure let me launch SC

[vagrant mantle]

made a chanal join down there when you can

[vagrant mantle]

@fervent tapir you crashed or changed your mind doing this XD ?

[fervent tapir]

System went sideways, going to restart game rig

I'm running wireless... 😬, going to also reboot cable/router

[elfin rune]

How broken its the hull c and how?

Docking ports doesnt work or what?

[runic mango]

A18 was full yesterday

All 50,000 of it lol

[half solstice]

dunno lol ive been there like 10 times since .22, never had issues. just sold 4.5m there as well lol

[dim cobalt]

Where is the fastest and best place to buy and sell baryle

[half solstice]

https://uexcorp.space/routes

[dim cobalt]

Thanks

[mortal vector]

Hi guys, the C2 will have a tractor beam one day (like the C1) ?

[nova arrow]

Question: Can you have 2 ships stored at a station with cargo inside? I had a C2 full of cargo stored at Grim, then I tried to store an M2 full of cargo at Grim, and the sell terminal only saw cargo in the C2. The M2 cargo just disappeared

[hearty wren]

ert cargo nerfed this patch?

[idle anvil]

A bit. It's still very lucrative, but they changed the distribution so you get less of the super valuable stuff.

[hearty wren]

oh okay so you now have to do it say for 3 hours to make as much as what we did per ship before?/

[idle anvil]

More or less. I think the amount of cargo you'll get will still be the same, it'll just take more runs to make the same amount of money.

[simple lintel]

Can I buy cargo containers? if so where can I get it? all sizes? sorry, Im new around here

[iron rune]

I think you can purchase them from cargo depots at L1 space stations (some of the planet space stations have cargo decks too)

[simple lintel]

thank you very much, have a good one

do you know if they come in different sizes?

[iron rune]

Yes!

1. 2. Annnd I think one more

[simple lintel]

thanks again

[iron rune]

1 2 and one more

https://finder.cstone.space/Containers1/44512a35-3a37-48b9-bf0e-c1bf87b4503b

https://finder.cstone.space/Containers1/d6f1b600-353d-42d7-a592-450172889f00

According to these 2 links I got the locations wrong

[simple lintel]

wow, great, thanks again!

[iron rune]

So check those out XD

[ionic acorn]

I bought a hull C, stocked up on cargo, Im docked at everus, how do I sell? it wont let me sell here at everus as it says I need a cargo deck, but I cant get a cargo deck because it wont let me try to sell

[short sapphire]

Made this because i got annoyed doing math for me and my buddies salvage runs. Any need for this in the broader community?

[low dagger]

misc hull c still dogshit?

[ionic acorn]

So far, cant figure out how to sell

[low dagger]

great

[ionic acorn]

I take it back, I just misread a chart.

The station Im at doesnt take what Im selling

[drifting cave]

So is the hull C actually bugged?

I've been pondering buying one

[wanton helm]

Got the same question.
Got like 7 mil of salvage slow roasting in my reclaimer and I wanna know if I should invest into the hull c after I sell

[iron rune]

Last I noticed, they're still not extending arms at docking ports for ships that use those

I don't know if hangar, buying, and selling have improved

[prisma ice]

For the hull c you really don’t need a docking port, you can just fly next to a landing pad and EVA out and into the station, sell and then go to the cargo bay

It is bugged if you use it the way you are meant to but there are work arounds

[drifting cave]

So is it worth buying one?

[prisma ice]

Ehhh, that depends, if you really like cargo and are happy to do the workaround while you wait however long it takes for them to fix docking bays, then I’d say go for it, but 15 mil is alot to sink into a ship that has a decent amount of bugs so my recommendation is to only get it if you really like cargo, if not then just wait a bit till they fix the docking and other stuff.

overall though once all the bugs are fleshed out I’d say it’s 100% worth it, seems like it will be a great way to make money in the future and even now

[mental bobcat]

I found all the walking around to be tedious in the Hull C. I tried to test one at IAE but I either could not dock or sell/load at the cargo area. It would tell me to stop in the blue box but did not recognise when I was actually stopped. It may have been the servers melting down at the time but it didn't seem great.

I also had a few cases of the ship deployed spawning inside hangars or perpendicular to the station, clipping inside

[teal sundial]

Kinda wanting to try out some Cargo gameplay with a Cutlass Black rental. Does anyone have any recommendations for where to start. Like what to buy, where to sell.

[spare cloud]

With as little space as a cutty, I'd recommend you run drugs from JT to Brio's.

[teal sundial]

I mean maybe, but I feel like my multitool will say no to being equipped

[spare cloud]

You don't need a multi tool 🤷

[teal sundial]

And then I have to buy new pants

I mean to move objects back to my ship

cause JT is a hostile area, someone is destined to shoot my ship

[spare cloud]

Not necessarly

With a ship as small as the cutty, you really just land, buy and take off immediatly

[teal sundial]

Buy? Don't you collect the maze from a machine that takes time?

[spare cloud]

With a bigger one, you would have a bit of wait time for stocks to go high, risking your ship to be destroyed

[spare cloud]

That's only when the JT event is active. But when it's not, you can buy drugs from here, using a terminal like anywhere else

Like I said, you don't need the tractor beam

[teal sundial]

gotcha.

I can try this out with my cutter scout. Rhyme was not intended

the drug in question is maze correct?

[spare cloud]

SLAM > WiDoW > Altruciatoxin

Best > worst

[teal sundial]

gotcha

does it mater which JT point I go to?

Guessing I have to manually fly to it?

[spare cloud]

You'll have to, yeah

[spare cloud]

I don't know if it works at other JT points, I've never tried it outside of Yela JT -> Brio's

[thorny loom]

Did they nerf ERTs?

[spare cloud]

They did but you can still make huge amounts of money, it might just take a bit longer since they lowered spawn rates of highly valuable cargos

[idle anvil]

Less gwe and maze (and maybe tweaked some others too), but can still get a ton of stuff.

[placid pilot]

so still worth grinding to and get a taurus to do ert's

[idle anvil]

Most likely.

[versed skiff]

whats the best way to get into cargo stuff quick, im still in my aurora 😦 and wanna move on

[mossy palm]

Cutlass Black is the most barebones entry-level ship for cargo hauling.

[versed skiff]

aight cool thank you

the grind continues

[mossy palm]

Then you get Freelancer with 66 SCU of cargo, or HullA with 64 SCU.

[mossy palm]

The is also Consolidated Outland's Nomad, with 24 SCU of cargo, but AFAIK, most people reccomend it as a ROC/ROC-DS carrier, not cargo hauler.

[versed skiff]

yeah idk why but the open back of the nomad scares me

[mossy palm]

You wouldn't like Hull series either then.

[runic mango]

Asking here cuz cargo ship:

Are docking ports fixed? Last patch taking hull c out the tunnel would never extend and I’d have to EVA over lol

[latent drift]

Don’t forget the C1 with 64SCU once it becomes available for in-game purchase! Love the C1 🙂

[hearty oxide]

C1 top tier best pledge store purchase I’ve made

[prisma ice]

nope

[lyric valve]

this might not be the right channel but the cargo bags on my prospector are just gone. ive tried storing the ship putting it back, ive repaired it, ive self destructed and they just wont come back. what am i supposed to do?

only thing i can find when i search up my issue is people replacing the prospector bags with mole bags but issue is that i dont have those missions lmao.

so how do i regen my ships bags??

[mental bobcat]

Well you could try renting a prospector and stealing the bags from that and putting them on your own ship.
Then go into the vehicle loadout management, remove or change a different part and save the loadout.

[lyric valve]

yikes

[mental bobcat]

The bags should stay

[lyric valve]

alot of work. and ive been trying to save up for a ship x_x

[mental bobcat]

Renting a prospector isn't much

[lyric valve]

ill just do it tommorow maybe. head hurts to much to be doin that rn tbh.

[mental bobcat]

Land them both on a landing pad of a station to do the work and make sure to unlock ports while you do the swap

[lyric valve]

alr

[mental bobcat]

And lock the ports again. Learned that lesson a while ago

[strong surge]

How do you come up with trading routes

[mossy palm]

SC Trade Tools and UEXCorp. As well as writing it down yourself.

[wraith sparrow]

Is building up rep to high level bounties to loot them and sell the cargo still pretty profitable. Been grinding my face off with a vulture and have made enough for a large ship.

[half solstice]

as far as i can tell its been nerfed

you can still score but its rarer

[tall karma]

Still the most profitable occupation in game.

[wraith sparrow]

On another loop, is the most basic and pretty profitable cargo grinding just buying something like a Hercules and buying goods on one planet and selling them at another?

[tall karma]

Yes, mining stations particularly. You will want to look at a site like SC Trade Tools for resource values, so you buy the right stuff. Mainly people trade in Gold and Beryl these days, and sell them at main planet TDD. Gold is the high return, high risk, and usually takes a while to get a full Herc. Beryl is the quick and low risk path.

[elfin rune]

And beryl its almost always available

[blissful kernel]

Hey, I'm a noob and I heard about sc-trade.tools, and it looks amazing, but it's for 3.21. Does anyone know of a similar resource with current 3.22 data?

[spare cloud]

Commodities data often have very little change between patches, if not none. Just keep using trade tools, it's still mostly up to date and the best tool anyway

[blissful kernel]

Ooh ok, thank you!

[spiral forge]

Why won’t it let me sell neon or etam at grim hex? I did steal it, if that helps clear up the situation

[spare cloud]

What does it say on the left of the screen ?

No demand I suppose?

[spiral forge]

In demand

It is in demand

[spare cloud]

So you should be able to sell no problem

[spiral forge]

Terminal was refreshing, they are out of demand

My bad

Can i sell at like brios or something and demand will be there?

[spare cloud]

If it's under no demand. That means stocks are high, and simply waiting a few minutes should be enough to sell

If it's under cannot sell, you can fly to somewhere else.

[spiral forge]

I’ll just wait

What are refresh times

[spare cloud]

Between 5-15 minutes

[vestal ravine]

I think those are the 2 vices that Grim hex does not take.

[scarlet rover]

are docking ports working at any station?

[tall karma]

From the patch notes know issues list:
Multivehicle - PU - Vehicles - When docking at a station the docking arm will not extend

[scarlet rover]

so no

[elfin heath]

Can anyone confirm drugs are still in ERT cargo post update about 2-3 hours ago?

[dim oak]

does anybody have a workarounds for the hull c transfer stuck at 00:00?

this is getting annoying

[elfin rune]

That happened to me unloading, after the sale

[elfin rune]

any workaround for " unloading cargo " not working?

[livid root]

hey guys i just wanted to ask, i got robbed today at brios trying to sell by 6 people, i couldnt get away in my corsair with two mantis, f8c lighting, arrow and some others there, i wanted to know about scouting out, like what is the fastest ship to outran a mantis, i brought a m50 and a razer ex stealth, are they good to go down and scout first and be able to out run?

[mossy palm]

Usually fly around pinging away like mad, see what pops out. And be ready to bolt into QT anytime.

[mental bobcat]

If you see a non cargo ship at a scrap yard run away.

I scan everything I see landed from a distance to see if they are owned by "Gamerules". If they are it means the owner died and left their ship behind or logged out.
Either way it cannot be flown so it's basically a non factor afaik.
Hover over the area and ping. If you see small icons below you there are people on the ground. Be careful.
And ofc if there blue markers flying combat ships in the area go somewhere else.

[idle anvil]

I once saw a manned f8c hovering over a scrapyard while scouting. Instant nope.

[elfin rune]

Any workaround with " unable to transfer cargo " issues? I can load the hull c perfectly but cant sell anywhere, keep saying theres a problem

[mental bobcat]

Last time I checked Brios was because I had just killed a reclaimer with eggs on board in orbit of Daymar and I was already close.
I flew about for a few minutes looking for issues but then a Mantis, F8C and two Arrows QJed locally probably from the nearest landing pad and moved right to me. I pointed at the sky and boosted away before the Mantis could get close enough to jam me.
I went elsewhere.

[tall karma]

You demonstrated a rare ability within the SC community - situational awareness. Most people just come here to complain about how they totally got dragged into PvP without consent and I R MAD, but they demonstrated zero willingness to check their surroundings 1st.

[simple lintel]

good morning Everyone, kind of new player, want to try cargo runs, is it good? and is it worth to buy the Hull C. I was told you can buy it in game but I do not know where and how much is it

[drifting cave]

The hull C is 15 mil and docking ports are bugged so I wouldn't.

[simple lintel]

oh, ok, many thanks, have a good one

[idle anvil]

grab a c1 if you want a more usable cargo ship afaik

not as much cargo space, but it's only about 5mil in game and I doubt the game has the tickrate to fill a hull c up on the valuable stuff in the first place

[simple lintel]

thank you very much, good info, will do, lol

[livid siren]

He meant crusader c2 hercules

[elfin rune]

And the cargo transfer too

[elfin rune]

Until the hull c works, the C2 its the way

[rocky moat]

a y

[simple lintel]

Thanks Guys

[elfin rune]

how can i get rid of this?

been there 2 days

any ship i use

[livid root]

anyone know how much this is worth, wont let me sell it anywhere as it doesnt fit in my corsair cargo grid

[haughty cipher]

quartz is one of the cheapest commodities

this box is around 13k aUEC

also it doesn't have to snap on the grid, as long as it is inside your ship

[frigid elbow]

Are the Hull-C issues fixed now?

[tall karma]

Nope.

[frigid elbow]

fuck.. lol I got enough in game money to buy one, and was excited. but dont want to buy it to not use it lol

[tall karma]

It's also still higher risk with lower reward than just about any other cargo option

[frigid elbow]

I dont mind the high risk low reward. I can just go make money in a reclaimer if thats what im aiming for. I just wanna be a big space trucker for a bit 🤣

[livid root]

@merc thank you mate glad i know its not worth it, is there any cheat sheet for what to take from the bountie ships, i know to throw distilled away, but havent gotten eggs yet but only 3rd day at it, also is there a better ship then the corsair

[spare cloud]

See best buyers on !tradetools ⬇️

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[latent drift]

Does it make sense to grab a Connie Taurus as an intermediate step to the C2, or just grind the extra and go straight to the C2? Flying a C1 right now.

[spare cloud]

If your goal is cargo hauling, I'd say you better save for the C2

[haughty cipher]

I use fully ballistic Corsair for high threat emergency beacons to fight stuff like Hammerheads.
For cargo I use a Starlifter like C2 or M2, hell even A2, to loot commodities in large amounts from high tier salvage missions

I was considering a Caterpillar but found out it's not good for 32 SCU crates

[spare cloud]

Corsair got a bit of a small cargo hold for this. Taurus or Hercules are better suited

[spare cloud]

They don't fit on grid, but you can still fit 2x per section and have plenty of room left

[livid root]

@haughty cipher thats good to know i was actually ccuing to a catapilar, i was like 44 dollars away from it so was going to do it, i saw a tuber doing it in an c2 with ballistic, ive been robbed twiced, but its a lot faster then mining, missions so i like to get the cargo, almost saved up 3 mil for my terrapin, then can work towards a c2 or that to try, i just cant seem to find the right balance, the msr i got owned in and cant do the mission despite loving the ship, as i solo, the corsair is a mantis attractor and been robbed twice, so yea i can spend 3 hours till i get a good spawn of loot from hrts, still leveling up to get better missions, but just wanted something like a redeemer but with cargo space ^^

it hurt tonight when i got robbed, they took my demco that had my red underbarrel fiedlight, love that and its now gone till they reset again

[neat light]

Anyone know if selling stolen goods is broken or not? We have been having issues trying to sell

[oak ore]

So is there some trick to high-level trading? I finally have the scratch to make buying gold, beryl, etc. worth the while now, but I spent all afternoon hopping around and camping terminals trying to find anything in stock. Was only able to actually buy gold like two times in hours of attempting.

[mossy palm]

Gold is slowass trickle of supply. People can spend up to 2 hours camping the terminal when trying to fill up their ships. Beryl is also one of good trading materials, but also refipls faster than the gold. Or should at least.

[tall karma]

Beryl has near infinite supply on Ita

[oak ore]

Thank you! Hadn't noticed how much better the refresh rates are there.

[polar flame]

when selling something with no demand, do I have to keep going in and out of the trading screen or will it refresh automatically if the server ticks?

[hollow elbow]

quick question! trying to mine with a friend, I rented a prospector and want to release my cargo pods for him to take back to the refinery, how does one do this?

[brazen sluice]

can i not sell weevil eggs anywhere rn

[elfin heath]

Anyone noticed if ERTs have been nerf’d regarding their cargo drugs since 3.22 release?

[elfin heath]

Probably no demand, change server region or wait a little

[oak ore]

YES, ships are on sale today so I melted some seldom-used ships and got myself a C2 Herc! For both hauling and some bounty hunting, I'm thinking a pair of AD5B's in the front, a couple FR-86's, and a TS-2 QD? Recommendations, or is that good?

[ancient spoke]

I’m a fan of S5 laser cannons on the front but I’m sure the AD5Bs would be fun too. Otherwise that’s the standard setup

[blissful wadi]

does the tractor beam on the 315p work yet?

and does the nomad have a better fuel tank yet?

[river cove]

anyone have a ypoutube for volture tractor how to use it etc?

[idle anvil]

as in, using the vulture's tractor beam? install it, get the ship in the air, enter salvage mode (m), use beam?

[river cove]

is instaled but why it use tractor and salvage toghetr ?

[idle anvil]

because they're both on the same mode

I think you can press 9 or 0 to use them separately

[river cove]

aaaaaah ok ill try

[idle anvil]

you can also install another one on the vulture if you wanted to afaik, but it's not worth it since the salvaging you'll most likely be doing is in space where you can just fly around it.

[meager hawk]

Trying to decide between the freelancer max and Taurus for my refined ores transport ship. Thoughts?

[idle anvil]

taurus has more cargo space iirc

and probably more defendable since you'll be transporting such valuable materials

[meager hawk]

My thoughts too, just gonna take another 1.3 mil abd I'm impatient lol

[idle anvil]

yeah. What are you currently using for the cargo?

[meager hawk]

Renting when I've stockpiled. Tried both the Andromeda and the freelance.

[idle anvil]

ah

if you need something now, then a freelancer max wouldn't do bad, but again, not particularly defendable afaik

[neon shard]

The AD5B's make it an ERT monster

[oak ore]

Brrrrt > Beep Boop

[drowsy phoenix]

what's your favorite QD for the reclaimer?

[rustic halo]

Looking into a C2 for looting ERTs and perhaps trying cargo. A buddy said, no get the A2, but I believe it can only hold 4 32cu crates. Am I wrong?

[drifting cave]

Hey cargoland. Am I fucking myself over by using a RAFT for cargo hauling? I really like the look of Argo ships and I like actually can't stand the C2

[slow nexus]

cargo shows as unregistered. any way i can fix this?

[elfin heath]

How much hadERT cargo been nerf’d I heard it’s calm down a bit

[elfin rune]

Yes basically

If you hate c2 try caterpilar

[drifting cave]

Oh right, that's a thing

[latent drift]

I also love the Argo vibe, but you’ll outgrow the raft pretty quickly. The C2 is on a whole other level right now. Caterpillar and eventually Hull-C will be your class-competitors (once Hull-C gets fixed…)

I want to see more from Argo though! A proper medium or heavy freighter, a small miner, and a salvage option would all be welcome in my books 🙂

[drifting cave]

I would kill for an ARGO salvage ship

[drowsy phoenix]

Did they remove the Hammerhead cleanup? I'm not seeing it in my contracts

[delicate sigil]

yeah same I did two and now it's not showing up anymore

[rustic halo]

C2 good for looting ERTs? Buddy said no use the A2 but it has way less cargo...

[drowsy phoenix]

I'm very interested in this topic myself... I've seen people do them in C2s, but I would think the extra fire power of the M2 or A2 would be very beneficial for ERTs

that and IDK that I want to be hauling around thousands of SCUs of drugs to be pirated

[marsh pendant]

Beryl is probably better to buy/sell then drugs right? Drugs can only be bought and sold at the illegal labs which you can’t QT to?

As far as aUEC/hour

[delicate sigil]

it spawned again but it seems like the cooldown is longer now

[drifting cave]

So what's a good trading route ATM?

[tall karma]

C2 and A2 are identical firepower when solo. Only reason to use the A2 is when you have a decent crew to man the guns.

[rustic halo]

THanks man. Yeah big arguement with a couple frinds about it, they said the C2 is useless because less guns.

Perhaps this is wrong: https://fleetyards.net/compare/ships/?models[]=c2-hercules&models[]=a2-hercules

[drowsy phoenix]

Yea, I see the A2 has 4 size 5 weapons vs the C2s 2. Are those not pilot controlled?

[tall karma]

Nope. The A2 has 2x S5s for the pilot and 6x S5 in turrets controlled remotely from a special turret room

[tall karma]

Total nonsense. I do ERTs in any Herc solo. You need to man the turrets to make use of the other guns.

2x S5s gets the job done.

[elfin rune]

It depends, classic c2 beryl works, now lot of people trading rmc from new settlements

You can always run drugs ofc

[drowsy phoenix]

so where is the 2nd S5 "weapon"... based off what you said the 6 turrets and 2 S5s for the pilot are accounted, but that leaves 2 more weapon mounts

[tall karma]

2 of those are double S5s and 2 of them are single S5s.

[dusty nimbus]

Have a heinous amount of maze and was wondering if doing the illegal priority mission or the legal one has any difference in the amt u sell for

[vestal ravine]

Take the JT illegal contract and go there to sell much bigger profit.

[drowsy phoenix]

have they dialed back the hammerhead missions? I got one and haven't had another pop up yet

[vestal ravine]

I was on 70 minutes ago and saw one...

[livid root]

hey guys i wanted to ask, as i just finish earning 3 mil for the anvil terrapin, i was about to start a new goal looking for something with more cargo room, as i want to be able to horde more cargo, i saw a tuber saying that a c2 with a5db is good for bounty erts, im only at lrts and level 3 of bounty, so cant do erts yet, but any suggestions on what ship to go for, using a corsair atm

[drowsy phoenix]

DISCLAMER: I'm pretty new to the game too, but from what I've seen the consensus seems to be that the C2 is one of the best "all around" ships for solo play. You can't mine or salvage with it so if you want to do any industry related tasks, you'll need a ship designed for that, but the C2 can take a beating, has decent pilot operated guns, and can haul just about anything. Once armor is modeled properly, the M2 is going to be a beast as it sacrifices some cargo space but has much thicker armor. The A2 is in a weird place right now. You need to constantly play with 4+ people and run it as a gunship like a hammerhead that happens to hold some cargo for it to make any sense.

For a medium haul cargo, you've got the Constellation Taurus, Freelancer MAX, or the Mercury Star Runner (MSR)

You can compare ships using this link https://uexcorp.space/ships

I'm also struggling with what ship to purchase next...

[mossy palm]

Thumbs up on Taurus ans Fatlancer, but MSR is shit.

[drowsy phoenix]

I was just going off the sheet for what was around a 150 LOL.
I just looked inside the MSR @new deal... It was annoying walking around the ship lol

[mossy palm]

Now imagine having to fix shit in it, or evac when it finally gives up the ghost.

[drowsy phoenix]

also, I just saw the price of the MSR... Why would you purchase an MSR for 4.91M when you can buy a C2 for 4.92M

[mossy palm]

And if you save up some more extra cash, immediately improve it by buying stuff at cousin crows, if you buy it on Orison.

Price is same.

[livid root]

@drowsy phoenix yea i have the corsair bis and bis msr, i tried doing a hrt with it but just got ownz, as the pilot dps is brutal, im using the corsair, but because i cant hold much its an issue, i go back to brios offten, and 3/4 times im killed or robbed or bombed, im looking for solo as i do everything solo, as its hard to know when ill play, so i want something that can solo the hrt and ert and i want to be able to horde the storage and sell into big loads

i cant wait for the armor stuff to come in, as i love the terrapin, i actually had it for pledge but upgraded to corsair, but the terrapin is my go to bunker beast, land right at stairs and in and out, was really good

[vestal ravine]

I would say do the Grind for a C2. It's so useful! We can do a run on the Reclaimer if you want. Just contact me dm...

[simple flare]

how long does it take the TDDs to refresh

[vestal ravine]

@aidanlok generally speaking not more than 10 minutes. If it's persistent no sale then log off and on.

[teal sundial]

Are there route calculators anywhere?

[livid eagle]

UEX

for traders by trades

[teal sundial]

Which tool in there, the Routes option doesn't allow my input, need to calculate a specific route

[livid eagle]

what are you trying to do?

calculate how much money a route makes

[teal sundial]

I need Distance between Pickers Hurston and NB TDD.

trying to find my fastest route

[livid eagle]

https://uexcorp.space/routes

what ship ya using

[simple flare]

anyone know if the hull c is broken still?

[mossy radish]

grimhex

grimhex cares if your cargo is marked as unregistered

kill me please

[sonic fiber]

Got myself a MAX finally, but man, not much worth trading

I guess I can at least move my refined ore now

[latent drift]

Gold? Beryl? Consistent profit to be made and short hops usually.

[ruby barn]

Yes. Still broken.

[mossy palm]

Gold if you are willing to wait and refresh the terminal, beryl for faster sales.

[teal sundial]

I personally (Giving you a hand mr pirate reading this) have been using UEXCorp and doing some RMC runs. Getting 123k AUEC (24% profit) per run in my Cutlass Black

[livid root]

anyone got a good build for c2 for vhrts, saw ppl saying ad5b and same swear by the cfs for inf ammo

[tall karma]

Just use s5 laser cannons. You don't need anything more.

[drifting cave]

Use the lightstrikes because Esperia is goated

[worthy scarab]

can the syulen tackle box missions? I understand it is limited to 6 x 1 SCU boxes and it is not easy to mount the boxes onto the external cargo hold

[drifting cave]

You can just put the boxes inside your ship

[worthy scarab]

i saw some videos that indicated you can't put boxes in trhe syulen, the entrance is too small

[drifting cave]

Carry the box in your hands

If you can fit, a box can fit

[worthy scarab]

whats the max size of box i can carry?

[drifting cave]

Box delivery missions are all same-size handheld boxes

[worthy scarab]

i see

i'm having a hard time deciding between the nomad and the syulen

syulen has cool interior shiip design and HUD even if i'm not a fan of the exterior. LTI, but no vehicles , limited cargo , cannot carry more than 1 SCU size, tricky landing

nomad has has uncool interior ship design. not nice exterior, butr cargo bay super useful

avenger titan looks too dated interior and not the biggest fan of tghe exterior

[drifting cave]

I like the syulen's exterior :(

[worthy scarab]

i can tell LOL

[drifting cave]

Keep in mind the Nomad can be bought in game while the Syulen currently cannot

[worthy scarab]

if there are wipes, is it muich harder to start with a syulen than a nomad?

[drifting cave]

If you want the end all be all "I'm safe in case of a wipe" ship that'll be a cutty black tbh

[worthy scarab]

too bad its not on holiday sale

[drifting cave]

Bias aside. I'd say get a nomad unless you really like the syulen

The nomad can fit a ROC and is generally more versatile. The syulen looks really sick but that's about it

[worthy scarab]

between an avenger titan, 100i and nomad, is the nomad hands down the clear choiuce? assume agnostic to cost

[drifting cave]

I don't think the 100i has a walkable interior, which disqualifies it imo

[worthy scarab]

i see

[drifting cave]

And you said the avenger looked dated

[worthy scarab]

true

if only the nomad had the LTI......

[drifting cave]

At the end of the day they're starter ships so like. Pick the one you'd enjoy flying rather than the best one

No point buying an avenger if you hate the ship

[worthy scarab]

true

haha i have spent about 15 days agonising over nomad or syulen

[drifting cave]

Get a syulen for style and a nomad for utility.

FWIW Syulen has LTI so if you ever CCU it, that sticks around

[worthy scarab]

i know...the LTI is a really large pull

[drifting cave]

So if you need a tiebreaker that's probably it

Plus didn't you say you disliked both the exterior and interior of the nomad

[worthy scarab]

correct

the syulen inspires my living space

my room colour is similar to syulen

[drifting cave]

Then yeah get the syulen

[worthy scarab]

so is the idea like this - when wipe, just do box missions untill you get enough in game credits to buy a bigger ship

[drifting cave]

Yeah.

Or worst case you can find a spot with someone that's got a bigger ship. Wipe means people will probably be in a hurry to make money

[worthy scarab]

i see

in terms of spending money on this game, at a nimunim, i would be a starter, and at some point if there is discount on standalone ships, i will get a larger ship where i can park my starter

[drifting cave]

I think you'll have a hard time finding a ship to park a syulen, unless you get like a carrack/890

[worthy scarab]

how do i find out what ships can accomodatge what ships? i'm looking at the wiki but it is not clear to mw

[drifting cave]

!fits

[wary tusk]

Can it fit?

Credit goes to u/KriLL3 for the design

[worthy scarab]

that looks like a massive cash outlay even with CCU

[drifting cave]

I do not recommend it

The convenience of parking your syulen inside a ship is not worth that much money.

[worthy scarab]

true that

side track abit - character customisation - is it you can only do it once? or are you able to change how your character looks like an unlimitewd number of times without any real money costs?

which is the 'best' location to start from?

[dusty oracle]

is thier a website that shows cargo grids for ships with max container sizes?

[tall karma]

You can change it whenever you like. Once you hit enter persistent universe there's an option in the bottom right before you join into a region

[sonic fiber]

Pirating or buying?

[sonic fiber]

Yeah that's still the issue. Sit an wait or move something without much profit. I'll try drugs

[mossy palm]

Nobody said traders/space truckers life is easy.

[sonic fiber]

Just sad there all that waste and scrap waiting for pickup

And all those ships leaving tdd empty

[teal sundial]

buying. Though I the mr pirate was for the pirates watching this channel because I'mn giving away info

[sonic fiber]

Ah well I'll look. Didn't know it could be bought

Salvaging just pays too well right now

80k salvage mission and sell the rmc you collect. Easy 200k

[bitter jungle]

if I had a hull C loaded with RMC, would I be able to sell that at orison ?

[mossy palm]

No, shit's bugged. Hopenyou like tonplay cargo jockey/warehouse operative by unloading Hull and putting cargo on C2 or something similar.

[spiral forge]

What are some good commodities for a c2 to trade?

[unborn wave]

Cargo dropped from high level bounties

[mossy palm]

Beryl.

[shell nacelle]

does anyone have that image of the trading routes for the hull C

[modest elk]

my ship is not showing up at the commodity terminals in the new settlements even tho I parked close, any ideas?

only shows my name twice and the settlement name on the terminal

[mental bobcat]

Maybe not close enough?

[sonic fiber]

I had same issue. Parked right next to it. What ship type? I know my aurora never showed up at outposts but bigger ship did

[ruby barn]

You mean this image?

[shell nacelle]

Yea Ty

[shell nacelle]

Which one has the highest profit

[modest elk]

C2, parked it as close to the fence outside as I possibly could

It was like a 100m away from the shop

[sonic fiber]

Yeah must be a feature then 😉

[ruby barn]

Haven’t tried it on the 3.22 live server yet, since the hull C is still bugged. So no idea.

[shell nacelle]

Yea but so I’d everything. It’s called a unintended feature

[vestal ravine]

What's the deal with the Maker's Mark mission? Can I just go there and buy the RMC? Then to Arc Corp for the sale?

[blissful wadi]

can someone quickly show me the best routes for the C1 on SC Trade Tools? cant seem to figure out how to make it tell me where to buy illegal cargo

[vestal ravine]

You mean Vice! I have a cheat sheet for that.

[violet sentinel]

whats a good ship for trading i got 5 mil

and im using the freelancer max

[still quarry]

Ships that are not landed still shows up in the inventory management of ground stations? Like mining stations or where we sell eggs maze etc?

[lavish cobalt]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[earnest hornet]

SC Trade Tools seem somewhat behind on some prices changes in .22, like RMC. Unless recent updates have happened, keep in mind what the site has may not reflect what's in the game now.

[idle anvil]

as long as it's close enough, yeah, it'll show up

[vestal ravine]

I visited the new settlement called "Astro's Clearing" and in the Bar area was a terminal that was glitched. The Makers Mark new site did not have a QT jump marker but I thought it did. I walked over the first site pretty well in daylight could not find any loot and the settlers were passive. A npc ship attacked me but a blue Corsair came by and killed it. I had a Vulture and hoped to buy some RMC. These sites are on MT.

[tender gazelle]

looking at the progress tracker and just hoping that the next update will implement the Self Land hangers as persistent hangers as well as freight elevators. CIG plz ❤️

[crimson osprey]

Is there a website that shows current inventories of places to sell cargo? and their prices too??

[lavish cobalt]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[lavish cobalt]

It won't show current inventories, but it'll show where to buy what, sell where and how much

[lavish cobalt]

. also this

the site states "Up-to-date with Star Citizen version 3.21.1"

so it's behind.

[chilly moss]

if i were to get into cargo running what ship would yall recommend i buy

[elfin rune]

C2

[wet yacht]

Def. C2

[astral linden]

What are the best cargo runs at the moment?

[bright tinsel]

RMC at some of the new settlements or the typical Gold & Beryl

[chilly junco]

For a safe run do Beryl from SMO-10 or SMO-22 to New Babbage.

For higher risk/reward try RMC from Rappel to Lorville. Alternatively Gold from SCD-1 or SMO-18 to wherever pays best

[rain shale]

If they can afford it.

Idk how you would get into trading if you don’t have a c2 (+ money to invest in buying cargo). Margins are no where nearly as profitable, although the high risk route from Rappel might be ok.

[elfin rune]

Well thats true, but he didnt ask for numbers. Id start with cutlass black and drugs, and grow from there if cargo its what you want

Or gold with luck

With a taurus you can do legal stuff with some profit

[wispy flare]

Anyone rememeber im 3.20 when you could run into 10X C2 and get $$$$$$$. I think those days have gone in 3.22????

[reef bolt]

does selling the JT bundles or turning them in give more money?

[simple flare]

is there no way to run RMC with the hull c?

[sonic fiber]

Not that I know of. Can only dock in space

[frigid elbow]

can the Hull-C dock in orison? if so - that'd be the only option

[spare cloud]

It can't

[frigid elbow]

Didn't think so but wasn't 100% on that

[mossy palm]

It can dock with Orison, but TDD still wont read its cargo grid. Unless they axed that ability in 3.22.

[orchid void]

Is there any difference in price to where I sell refined ores in major cities?

And are Major cities the best place to sell refined ores?

[earnest hornet]

realistically the only place, given each city has the TDD where they buy refined ores.

[drowsy rune]

Each major city is slightly different in prices, usually not worth the hassle of finding the best of each ore unless you have a ton of just 1 or 2 ores

[unborn wave]

!tradetools shows you prices for each place, just use best buyer and out in what item and how much you got

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[tall crown]

whats the best trade route for the hull c

[drowsy rune]

Does anyone know when you would choose a caterpillar over a c2

[frigid elbow]

I don't think theres really a good time, unless you are manually moving things from one ship to another, in which case the cat has a tractor beam... but thats only if that really is a big issue for you or not

[tall crown]

whats the most expensive one

route

[frigid elbow]

no idea. I just know that this is the route table that a lot of people have been using

[tall crown]

ah ok ty man i appreciate it

[frigid elbow]

I ahven't used my Hull-C yet because of it being bugged this patch

[tall crown]

oh it is? how?

[frigid elbow]

people say that it bugs at the docking port - doesn't like to spawn docked or something. not 100% sure but Ive seen people in chat say they've lost millions because of it.

[tall crown]

oh yeap i have had that issue thought it was just me

[frigid elbow]

haha nope. its a known issue with the hull-c currently.

[drowsy rune]

Anyone know if you get to the courier rank for delivery missions if there any new missions? Or is the 45k one the highest one

[drowsy phoenix]

It's faster to load a caterpillar than it is to load a C2.

[still apex]

are the derelict outpost still op to buy rmc from

[hasty bear]

How does one trade in this game? Do you buy at one station and sell it at another?

[drifting cave]

yep

prices are different elsewhere so you buy someplace cheap (not just stations but planet outposts sometimes) and sell where they buy high

[hasty bear]

Got it.

Any way to browse the system wide market?

Comparing prices etc

Also, are all prices NPC controlled? As in…not player driven?

Might be a stupid question but I come from Eve

[little leaf]

Anyone knows why I can't sell more than 10PSU per station?

[drifting cave]

The game is in alpha and has no economy yet
Currently supply/demand is based on how much people buy/sell

!tradetools though

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[idle anvil]

admin terminals have a cap on how much of each resource they can buy at once, and they can be affected by other players selling stuff

[earnest hornet]

FAIR WARNING at last glance SC Trade Tools isnt updated to .22 yet, so prices may be incorrect.

[silk tulip]

What do you guys say about this page: https://uexcorp.space/routes it seems correct and updatet

[elfin rune]

Dunboro terminal does work? I couldnt make it to show my ship to buy stuff

[native fox]

where to sell Altuziatoxin ?

[spare cloud]

See best buyers on !tradetools ⬇️

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[honest grove]

Does anyone know if the cargo "bug" of making sure you stack boxes on top of the same type of boxes is still a thing? Or can you stack anything on top of anything and be able to sell it, now?

[spare cloud]

It's not 👍 Feel free to stack

[honest grove]

Ah-maze-ing! Thanks!

[reef smelt]

lets say i have a C2 what would be the best way to make money ? doing EHT and VHT for the rare cargo or normal trading ?

[spare cloud]

ERTs for sure

[reef smelt]

okay thanks

i right now have 4,5 mio what would be the fastes way to make money ? so i can buy the c2 ingame xd

[honest grove]

ERTs - if you go boom or get pirated, all you've lost is time. Buying/Selling - you've lost millions in aUEC.

[reef smelt]

pirat real that big of a problem ? like i never meet players in this game only in stations or cities or sometimes a OM point but else never lol

[honest grove]

Depends on what you're hauling and where you're going.

[reef smelt]

gotcha alot of people camping on those sell stations ?

[honest grove]

If you're doing ERT's, you're going to be looting drugs out of the cargo bays of the ships.

Drugs sell at GrimHEX or the junkyards (Brio's, Devlin's, etc)

Brio's is a popular spot for pirates to wait for unsuspecting solo players to come along.

I always bring escorts/scouts to those places.

[reef smelt]

okay okay but the C2 has big shields so unless a QT jammer no way the can kill me xd

[tardy umbra]

You can also sell most drugs at a terminal at the CRU-L4 station

[honest grove]

Even with escorts, I got QT jammed the other day in my C2, and could not get away. First time I experienced soft death.

[reef smelt]

can i ask you play on EU or NA ?

[honest grove]

CRU-L4 and CRU-L5 have very limited demand, so unless you want to play the server hop game or wait, those aren't great options unless you're only selling a few SCUs. (in my experience, anyway. Other's mileage may vary)

I usually put it on "Best" and hope. 🤣

But I'm in NA. If I need to hop servers, I usually try EU first, then whereever.

[reef smelt]

gotcha xd

[chilly junco]

Are there any good guides out there on using the Hull-C i.e. working around the bugs?

[uneven sun]

Where buys gasping weevil eggs? Gonna try my luck with some erts

[chilly junco]

Salvage yards

[uneven sun]

No where safe then, even at reduced cost 🤣

[elfin rune]

hurston security took my RMC bought in outpost, wTF?

[north oyster]

** Interesting scuttlebutt on Trade**

• Hull series of ships will be managed differently for cargo and loading of said cargo. No further details.
• Real time signage in cities and in mobiGlas for commodity pricing
• No more predetermined routes. Outposts will not always have the same types of commodities for sale or purchase.

[vestal ravine]

So the real time signage is also an accurate reflection of the trade price and is it going to show every trade item?

[dusty oracle]

so the Corsair is not designed to hold 32 scu Containers?

[spare cloud]

Not on grid, but it can fit 3x 32 SCU containers off grid with room for at least 40 more SCU in smaller containers

[north oyster]

This is rumor for 3.23, I apologize for not noting that originally. Just speculation, but I'm sure it should be a real time market price. I hope that CIG offers API access for sites like SC Trade Tools to use

[dusty oracle]

i hope they fix that feels like alot of wasted space in cargo area that is not lockable

especially for a "exploration" pirate ship

[charred ledge]

IIRC they have talked about no api's till at least beta due to not wanting to maintain them and how low risk technically speaking setting it up will be later on.

[bright vigil]

Been away from the game for a few years but last time I checked I thought aphorite and dolvine were sold for only a couple hundred a unit?

Saw it in hurston

[spare cloud]

That's the price for one SCU of those. 100 gems iirc

[bright vigil]

I thought they only sold for around 130 ish a piece which would come out at 13k ish for 100??

Or did they update the prices to make it easier?

[sonic fiber]

About time

[sonic fiber]

I'd rather it stay in game
In game mods, apps on your mobile for example

[latent drift]

Inflation even hit SC 😆

[solid creek]

where can i sell weevil eggs at
hur l4 or 5

[idle anvil]

I think one of those places have a no questions asked terminal, but usually I see it sold at scrapyards

[vestal elbow]

The value changes depending on if its SCU form or just gem form (SCU form is ment to be the processed format)

[mossy palm]

Cru L4 and L5.

[solid creek]

cheers

[tall karma]

These can only be sold at scrap yards. The NQA terminals won't buy them.

[keen grove]

So just to be clear... The Hull C cargo grid can't be seen at TDD?

[uneven sun]

This ert cargo is crazy, bought a carrack last night, down to 200k aUEC left, just did 3 erts, back up to 10 mil, it's gonna hurt when they get merged 🤣

Nerfed*

[tall karma]

Or they could make ERTs actually challenging and require multiple people or supremely good pilot skill to succeed thus making the cargo rewards warranted.

[tender gazelle]

maelstrom UI

once implemented, armor will actually play a role+dps output/Time To Kill will change

[drowsy rune]

That would make more sense to me than nerfing the cargo

[uneven sun]

Fair point, absolutely agree with you on that

[elfin rune]

Not sure but doesnt matter cause you cant " unload " the cargo

[heady remnant]

Where do I sell CM?

[tender gazelle]

admin offices and at grim hex

also breaking yards

[heady remnant]

whats the best in your opinion?

[vestal ravine]

Well Admin Centers the safest by a mile.

[blissful wadi]

trade routes for the Hull C?

that make decent money

[drowsy phoenix]

Hull C is fucked right now. Can't unload cargo

[violet sentinel]

is there anything better then c2 for cargo other then ships that cost real money?

[drifting cave]

The C2 is kind of the best cargo ship.

The only ship with a higher capacity is the Hull C which is completely bugged.

[violet sentinel]

how much is the hull c?

[drifting cave]

Don't buy it, it's bugged.

You can't dock at stations, and it's generally very impractical.

Also it costs 15 mil

[violet sentinel]

kk

so its not worth? even when not bugged?

[drifting cave]

It can't land on planets with its cargo spindles out which restricts what kind of trading you can do.

Up to you to decide if that's worth it.

[violet sentinel]

how much to you make with it in 1 run i make like 2 mil with c2

[violet sentinel]

also where do i buy hull c?

[drifting cave]

Lorville. And I don't know about money, I've never flown it myself. I just know it's really clunky to use.

[violet sentinel]

kk ty

[cedar ledge]

Are there anyother planets apart from Hurston that has the new outposts?? Yesterday tried to land at Rappel with my C2 and the frame rate went to crap...

[vestal ravine]

I tried to buy at Astros Clearing on MT but the terminal was bugged.

[cedar ledge]

I just tried on one of the Hurston ones but the terminals didn't work there which was why I was asking - Rappel on Hurston worked yesterday... Might have to go there again...

[sonic fiber]

Nooooo. 30k with full.load of rmc, 1 min from landing

[keen grove]

should be safe

[elfin rune]

I think theres 1 in MC called dunboro

[cedar ledge]

Give it at least 15 minutes before you login again - Should be at the last station you stopped at with cargo...

[drowsy phoenix]

can someone explain the terms for me? I think I understand full damage range & zero damage range, but instability / optimal charge rate / optimal charge size?

[spare cloud]

When mining, you charge the rock with energy. You want to give it enough energy to break apart, but not too much so it doesn't explode.
This is represented by the charging bar with the green and red zones. Green zone is the optimal charge window. Optimal charge size changes the size of this window.
For the rock to break apart, you have to maintain its energy in the green zone. The optimal charge rate makes it so you don't have to maintain as long.

[sonic fiber]

🤞

[drowsy phoenix]

ah okay, yea I've mined before so I'm familiar with the interface, just not the terms... so charge size = how much of the bar is green, and rate is how long you have to hold it there, and instability is how much the charge fluxes?

[spare cloud]

I think that's was instability is but I am not sure. Better have confirmation on this

[drowsy phoenix]

okay, so do I just get the Hofstede-S2s or is 3360 output not enough power and need something liek the Kleln or hellx II?

[spare cloud]

Check pinned messages for more informations on mining heads and modules

Erkul isn't complete for mining

[ashen bloom]

the mental gymnastics to do this..

[spare cloud]

It's a MOLE, get both. I run my MOLE with a Helix II and a Hofstede-S2. Best of both worlds

[drowsy phoenix]

put like the hellx II in the center and 2x hofstede-S2s on the wings for people I don't trust?

[spare cloud]

Yeah. I run it solo so I only changed one of the side to Hofstede and didn't bother changing the other

[drowsy phoenix]

does any ore in the game need the 4K output of the hellx?

[spare cloud]

Yeah

For big rocks, with stupid resistance.

Btw, let's move to #rock-and-stone because here isn't the place for it

[drowsy phoenix]

oh sorry, didn't see that channel anywhere

[sonic fiber]

Whew, wasnt showing up at first but received the ship and was able to sell it

[cedar ledge]

🙂 Good... When it happens again don't claim your ship as it will not work if you do

[vestal ravine]

I had 5 million worth in the SP area I tried to keep them nicely stacked but the higher we went the more jumbled up the crates got! Overall pretty stable which is cool!

[ashen bloom]

guys, where do you sell cargo marked as "stolen goods"? my friend logged out and relied on me to sell the cargo

[idle anvil]

scrapyard, probably

maybe grim hex

I think there are terminals at cru l4/l5/both that have special terminals that'll take them

[ashen bloom]

tried, doesn't work

[ashen bloom]

also can't, still marked as stolen

[ashen bloom]

haven't tried this one, but i already gave up

[unborn wave]

I find spam clicking all over the commodity your trying to sell when it says illegal item will finally give you the sell option

[desert crypt]

Any word on Hull-B? Enjoying Hull-A, I’m thinking Hull-B would be nice without being massive like Hull-C.

[elfin rune]

Wtf why?

[digital totem]

I refunded the Hull C after it cost me a mil plus. It wouldn’t unload its cargo

[unborn wave]

Where are you trying to sell?

[hollow lotus]

Can you put a 1 scu crate back in stations local inventory after you drag it onto your ship?

[spare cloud]

Yes

[hollow lotus]

Thx @spare cloud !

[uneven sun]

Have an odd one here, 30k'd waited 15 mins, respawned me at GH, went to the asop and the c2 is stored at green imperial medical, any ideas what to do?

[spare cloud]

Reclaim it

[uneven sun]

Sad, 300 odd scu of slam in it

[spare cloud]

30K protection can be a bit weird, putting your ship in hospital inventory instead of the city. And there's nothing to do about it

[uneven sun]

Nightmare, first 30k in ages and it just so happens to be worth a few mil 🤣

[elfin rune]

Seraphim

[unborn wave]

Seraphim doesn't buy Iron. Fly down to Orison and go to the Trade and Development Division on cloudview platform

[spare cloud]

They're not going to fly down to Orison with a Hull C

[unborn wave]

Oh touche

[spare cloud]

Sta-Ter or Baijini should buy iron

[unborn wave]

I didnt look at the SCU amount

[unborn wave]

But it is possible to dock at orison though right?

[spare cloud]

I think so, but TDD won't recognize the ship

One day maybe

[sonic fiber]

Iron is 1 credit per scu? Why bother

[spare cloud]

It sell for approx 400 aUEC per SCU

[unborn wave]

Any item marked as cant sell shows as 1 credit

[short tapir]

Im just getting back into trading (among other things) are the trade tools(such as sc-trade.tools) "useless" ?

[spare cloud]

No, but you should take what they show with care. Most of it is still mostly up to date, but can be wrong

tradetools is a very good tool

[short tapir]

Thanks im glad to hear it, will save a LOT of time writing down prices and such each place xD

[sonic fiber]

Aha

[valid orbit]

whats the best cargo for the c1 and what routes

[spare cloud]

Drugs, Jumptown -> Brio's

It's a bit small for lawful stuff, but if you want, you can run Gold

[valid orbit]

What's the best gold route?

[spare cloud]

this probably

[valid orbit]

thx

[sonic fiber]

You guys give away trade secrets too easy

Teach them to fish

[shut harbor]

Man i loot 300scu of Widow and i can sell more than 20 at a time

Suffering from sucsess

[spare cloud]

Try to other locations. No questions asked terminals are a bad place to sell big volumes of drugs

[shut harbor]

Am at GH