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ive never traded before so idk
The more popular routes (gold) get visited by pirates but you're only really in trouble if they QD jam you, or have a big dps ships
If they have neither, you can usually just outrun and jump somewhere before they even break shield
Good luck
ty im buying a c2 rn
Ooh nice
Big money
If you can handle the waiting
If they ever actually change the way cargo works, raft will probably be king
yeah ima try a route but idk if its good
Well with the C2 it also depends on your initial investment
If you've got a lot of money, there are gold routes at Microtech and Crusader
alright
Just of note for anybody who's interested, ammo prices differ from one place to another. The former was taken in Orison, the latter in Port Olisar.
Strange change lol
Prolly spend more on fuel then you save unless your buying like 90 mags
Ammo is a negligible cost for me. Kinda like a business operating expense, you know it's gonna be there, so you just suck it up and take it when the need is there 😅
Where is larenite selling cuz the website just screwed me over
(sc trade tools) website
anyone that does smuggling?
Not much to smuggling right now, it's just trading but with illicit goods.
I am trying to do trading but I earn 40 k on every run, I just wanted to know if you can trade and get more profit
If you're using a smaller ship with less cargo capability, illicit goods are going to be the better option. Just keep in mind that they have very low stock, and you'll want to not get scanned by security.
yea, I am renting the adromeda right now
Ah. Not the best smuggling ship, you'll never fill its cargo with drugs, not enough stock. I tend to use a 315p or Nomad.
oh yea, I want to get the c2 or taruus but its SO MUCH MONEY
The 315p can potentially make almost 60k a run, and they're short, fast runs. Problem is stock. There's usually not enough slam to fill even a ship that small.
yee I know that, the beryl never runs out of stock tho
but I make 40 k profit
That's about as good as you're going to get without getting into more risky trading. The Andromeda isn't really a great trader with how things currently work, not enough cargo capacity. You'd want to go at least with a Taurus, but the Caterpillar and C2 are really the only ships that make bulk trading viable right now, if you're a credits per hour player.
Laranite is better, if you can actually fill with it.
Gold is best, but also extremely high risk. The routes are well known by pirates.
36 min ...
Buying vice from the 3 drug labs can net you more crates. Some have a mission the other times you need to fly direct so you lose some playing time.
Depends on how much running around you're willing to do while carrying hot cargo. I prefer to just do one stop then sell, not risk anything else.
As accurate as it can. Values are never exact but it doesn't matter. If trade tools tells you your gonna make 340 845 aUEC, you might make only 337 900 or 345 823, but never negative profit. Fluctuations are minor
Any tips for dislodging stuck cargo?
Got a bunch of boxes stuck on the grid of my reclaimer
Some in mid air…
Seen a few people with this in their vultures and caterpillar. Only fix was to claim the ship.
I’ve got about 60 boxes in mid air tho 😬
Are you sure they weren't sold and just keep showing ? How much you had before selling, how much you sold ?
The ones stuck on the salvage processing floor I managed to dislodge, those seemed to be stuck inside a duplicate box. Put those on a different grid on that same floor
I know no fix other then claiming
That should be another 16 boxes
Tbh, I considered this ship lost after the game booted me out after being afk for a tad bit longer than I thought
Another 24 sold
How are you debugging those boxes ?
I'm not. I have no idea where the other 8 came from
I'm about to check if the 16 that I moved around on the salvage floor have been sold though
But first, going to see if I can repair the boat.
How are you selling more boxes then 
What site should i use to see where I can get the best price for cargo ?
!tradetools ⬇️
One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.
@spare cloud Like I said, no clue where the other 8 came from, but the 16 on the salvage processing floor are gone. Going to the cargo hold now to see if anything changed
Crap, now I can't use the multitool anymore. Dangit.
Found two more boxes in the filling stations.
Hmm repair and refuel isn't working
This reclaimer is slowing dying 
Yeah, it’s had a rough go of it.
Then again, this is A18, which has the most buggy pads and hangars for some reason.
Out of the 310 boxes (300 on grid, 6 off grid, 2 in front of the filler stations and two inside, I’ve managed to sell 270.
My and my carrack don't get along with hangar 7
Hangar 11 for me.
Should have just enough QT fuel to make it to Orison still
Hmm repair and refuel is working this time around.
Hah! More boxes are coming loose!
Another 18 dislodged, 17 stuck floating.
And 18 sold. Not sure what to do about the remaining 17. Guess that’s just a loss.
the Hull C may actually not be bad to do Box missions with
its elevator is nice and spacy
are these missions illegal?
No
although they mention it's off-limits and shady requests?
Yeah
kk thanks
this is somewhat related to trading stuff cause its a c2 but all my sheilds are routing to the rear without me doing anything
More of a #flight-combat-racing thing. Press 5 on your NumPad to reset your shields. 8 to boost front, 4 - 6 for side ones, 2 for rear
ah so a cat related issue
so, what are the cyan and pink boxes?
Some kind of ore -- often Beryl
Best C2 route?
!tradetools
One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.
Is it that difficult for someone to just tell me or?
What's your initial investment? How long are you willing to wait to fill between stops, are you willing to run VICE commoditiys? Is there some planet or are you refuse to fly in? Do you only want ot land in hangers on is planetary surfaces okay? All of these questions make it basically unreasonable to just give an answer, but the trade tools site will help you figure that out yourself
I have plenty of money I’m doing this for fun. Assume I have infinite resources and time.
Legal only
Also no, the answer that should have been given was “This is the best one” and then I figure out the rest. Not deflecting from the trade channel to just go use a bot, why does everyone avoid human interaction lol
well maybe you should realize there is no "Best route" for a specific ship, all routes that are listed in the trade tools is good for any medium to large cargo size ship. So just pick one
Y’all will type up these whole paragraphs just to say nothing at all
Why is it so hard to say “Take gold from here to there”
just use the tool, and if you dont like it idk go somwhere else then
I don’t have to go somewhere else if I don’t like your horrendous take on social interaction
“If we aren’t the same you go away” is such a gross outlook
Here's my faves:
Beryl from SMO 10 or 22 to New Babbage, ~200k
Beryl from SMO 10 or 22 to Orison, ~400k
Beryl from HDMS Ryder to Lorville, ~275k
Gold from SCD-1 or SMO-18 to Area 18, pay varies wildly
thank you
is it possible to buy laranite on wela then sell it on arccorp?
says wela sells it and arccorp buys it but no guide show that route so im guessing no buttttttt.... is it?
thanks @hollow sedge but it dosent REALLY answer my question
cuz it also shows that i can buy laranite on the moon wela then just sell on arccorp
but no routes that show that
constalation taurus
its way clsoer so it should show as best route
but no it tells me to go to hurston
oh so its tiny bit more profitable
yeah
i was just wondering if its possible
tyvm
mm yes
now that i think about it i also probably prefer pure profit
XD thanks
Trying to sell my haul of salvage at the terminal and keep getting cargo removal error. Anyone ever get that trying to sell cargo?
Bug that's been popping up lately. I haven't heard of a fix for it. I tried all sorts of things when it happened to me but ultimately lost the load of cargo.
Has happened to every load of salvage I try to bring in.
Ouch. I've only heard of it being sporadic, not consistent with someone.
I haven’t been playing to much but every time I have tried it’s failed to work. I’m just going to go back to baldurs gate until it’s fixed. I just wonder what they broke this time to cause a bug like this.
It happened to me the one time but hasn't since. I kept on salvaging after it happened and have been able to sell every load since.
Think I have to reset what I’m carrying or just keep trying with the same load to see if it will go through?
@cerulean lichen If you have any little items on your ship like a plushie it can sometimes cause an issue. Other than that I don't know of any fixes except moving it around and trying again.
what is a good ship for running cargo and fighting
taurus
Two sources to bookmark where you can find information like that.
Star Citizen tools for DPS, damage, power and cooling simulations including an up to date ships and components database
The list below contains standalone vehicles that are (or were) available for pledge. Pledge vehicles help fund Star Citizen and Squadron 42's development.
anyone know where i can sell stolen quant?
From salvage? shoudl be TDD at main city
Stolen goods can only be sold at no questions asked terminals.
Weird question but say you get illegal drugs off and the popo scan your ship, is there a way to avoid that or just run? xD
QT away
Think if I moved everything from one ship to another would help? It’s 18boxes so it wouldn’t take to long
Im new to the game and would like to get into moving cargo, can anyone help me out and teach me the ways?
You buy somewhere, you sell somewhere else. Ship < 120 SCU ▶️ Drugs || Ship > 120 SCU ▶️ Lawful.
Use !tradetools to make your routes ⬇️ Run the most rewarding route at your own costs. Pirates are around.
One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.
Thank you
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@drowsy ravine Your question sounds like you want to do cargo with a lot of firepower to pilot, right ? So you'll be choosing between Corsair, that has the most firepower and some cargo capabilities, or Taurus, that has 100 more SCU, is a good cargo ship and has about 2/3 of the firepower.
If you're mostly going to do cargo, go with Taurus because the 72 SCU of the Corsair aren't much and only drugs can give you a decent profit
Personally I'd go with a Taurus, it's a great ship all around with good cargo cap and even in a fight you're probably gonna have a better time than with the Corsair. The Taurus has more HP and you're less likely to lose an engine than one of the Corsair's wings or thrusters. More missiles too which help when you're a big slow ship
And the Corsair is really slow
Taurus // Corsair
Idk the Corsair definitely flies much heavier, I don't think those numbers represent the full flight experience. Maybe it has something to do with the wings giving it more mass far from the center of gravity but it has a lot more inertia when trying to tuen
That's only how you feel about it. Corsair goes at 950 and turns 27°/s
That's what it is
Like I said I don't think those numbers represent the full flight model, it's a very small difference and I'm not even sure they're accurate. The ones on the RSI website certainly aren't, idk how erkul gets them, but I don't think it's so unbelievable that the Corsair flies differently
(PTU) I'm doing some testing, but so far it seems like if you store a large box in the nose of the Caterpillar (the only way they fit in the ship), you do not get paid when you sell it. I've had a 3m and a 7.8m sell not pay me, both from this exact thing.
Didn't receive payment from either of these. Both were large boxes stored in the nose.
I think someone else said that the only way to sell the 32 scu cargo was if it was on the hill-c? Hopefully they fix that before it rolls to the PU
Testing continues. I'm searching for another one now, going to put it in a different ship and see if it can be sold.
It isn't just the 32scu boxes, but also the next step down, 28 I believe.
Lucked out and got another big box on the next mission.
Ok so selling those bigger boxes does work in different ships. I was able to sell one out of a MAX with no problem.
Is the issue with these 32SCU boxes only with boxes you find ? Cause I bought lots of things and had lots of 32SCU boxes in my C2 and never had an issue to sell
does that mean you can sell them in ships that are big enough for it to snap to?
I guess yes, based on this pic #industrial-professions message
These are from salvaging missions. The error seems to be specifically with the Caterpillar, because these boxes technically don't fit in it.
There's more to it than that. The pitch/roll/yaw rates don't factor for mass and inertia; those are the numbers when completely stationary. Technically the Harbinger and Sentinel have identical stats but the Harb weighs twice as much and definitely doesn't maneuver as well
What's interesting is the Taurus weighs almost twice as much as the Corsair. Feels really good considering that
So you can't store 32scu boxes in the Caty or just not in the front?
The cargo grids in the modules of the Cat aren't big enough for the 32scu or the next size down.
oh no 😦 now iam sad....was so happy to have a caty for the new boxes
On the plus side it's probably just a bug that they can't be sold when stored there. Downside is, they really aren't meant to be stored there.
Which ship are u guys using for buying and selling goods?
So working hard an buy a hercules xD
I've heard ships are currently modeled as if they're fully loaded all the time but that's supposed to change at some point. I really think the Corsair's performance has something to do with those big wings, they've said the engine models weight distribution to some degree so it makes sense that a huge wing with guns and missiles would give the ship more angular momentum when turning and make it harder to control
For simple trade runs flying and landing the Taurus has been perfect for me.
Do you think CIG will make cargo hauling more profitable when it’s fully physicalized?
Especially for medium sized haulers.
Probably once we get cargo missions, and not just the back and forth trading we have now.
Looking to give the Hull C a test run. What routes are the best it at the moment?
None, as really there is nothing big enough to move except scrap
will there be actual contracts missions in 3.20
Not in 3.20. Gotta wait longer for that.
but the salavge missions spawn more cargo?
Currently on the PTU, yes, but we have no way to know if that comes to live.
ok
ive just been into cargo and have a connie taurus so ive been looking for stuff to do
(Opinion) There's no way it does in it's current state, it's just too much.
do you think in your own opinion that salvage will spawn more cargo. just not as much as current live
Probably. The amount spawning on live right now is so little there isn't much point bothering with it.
They swung a liiiiiittle too hard the other way with it on the PTU.
I'd say about 1/4 of what's on the PTU would be alright.
I took a mission in a Hull A earlier today and made 250k off it.
Just the one mission. Didn't even do the big boxes because Hull A.
nice
There is a big RNG element to it, you're not always going to get the good stuff. That mission in the A wasn't even the good stuff. Drugs, but the least valuable drugs.
I did three more missions after that and didn't get anywhere near as much, maybe 100k total, minus the cost of the missions themselves. RNG.
what missions have the cargo in them? any or just ||salvage cleanups||
i am new to trading mission, how much capacity does it need? can it fill a C2 hercules?
I run the C2 it's 696 scu. Cost is the big issue.
i find my carrack can't land at those mining site in lyiz, what ship can i use??
You don't need an authorization to land at mining outposts
Just land.
the ship is too big for the landing site....
You don't have to land on the landings pads either
You can land behind or next to it
kk... thx
does anyone actually manage to sell commodities at the admin terminal like ranta dung?
What are you trying ot sell ?
I have looted items from the caves, like Aphorite that apparently would sell for 152k, but it's always out of stock?
Have you selected the inventory where the gems are stored ?
yeah, it appears there, but would sell for a lot less than the "in demand" value. Sorry my question was wrong, does anyone ever sell for the in demand price
The "In demand" value is the value for one full SCU of it. 1 SCU = 100 or 1000 gems.
ohhh, i see, thank you!
I never had a problem with it. Then again I don't find I'm looking out the window a whole lot. Using instruments until sub 500m from landing then using 3rd party cam mostly. Same on any ship
I absolutely love my max. So gutted I upgraded it to a Taurus
when is the cargo update?
what are the best resources to use to get into cargo runs
I have a freelancer and I've kinda been intrigued by that side of the game
I think the last thing I read was they're working on it. I haven't seen an announcement on when it's coming
thx
beryl is a good option
just be carefull for pirates
if you see players nearby don't buy
i speak from experience myself
Those are OOOOOOOOOLD.
This is what it looks like these days. Probably going to change again as the MISC brand has matured a lot in its art design lately.
The pilots seat view doesn't have a lot of vertical visibility, but has good horizontal visibility. MFDs are decently located. I use my webcam for head tracking and I typically do 90° roll and pitch up for breaking using the upwards thruster so you get a good view of the ground while doing so out the left side.
Not the best pic but the best I have without digging in my screenshots.
I use that ship for ROC mining and it works okay. It can haul a DS and the rear turret can be fired with the I key turned off. The smaller footprint is nice also. After mining I grabbed some Gold crates and turned a 199K profit.
Last night I heard of two pirate incidents going on in chat and a third that directly impacted me.
The first two were pirate attacks by a
“Gingerofoz” at Area 18 and also “Sfer” showed up around Port Olisar. Sfer is in the top 5 of pirates from what I can tell. But 20 minutes later a counter pirate Org called NOVA declared that Sfer had been driven off and PO was safe for access. I thought that was pretty cool.
However for 50 minutes last night I was trapped at Shubin SMO-18 with a Gladius pirate clearly wanting to torment me. He/she even blocked me on foot as I was looking at 5 wrecked ships including three C-2's in the armistice zone.
Anyway I got tired of waiting for this player to vacate the area so put my gear in local and I tapped Alt F4. Did not lose much just some crates from a salvage mission I started off with.
But yea pirates are real lol!! EDIT: I logged back in and the C2 was sent back to my home planet with the crates still inside. How cool is that? No losses whatsoever. So I flew back to MT for more Gold but only got 180K worth and topped off with Aluminum. The ship was off the pad and I made sure it was powered off and hit Alt F4 again and will see if everything goes back to Orison.
Looking forward to the next episode @vestal ravine
Tried this again but the ship was in an Unknown state and I lost 300K. Even flew and checked the site no ship present. Bummer.
where is the best place to buy cargo?
MT Shubin SMO 10 or 22 to Orison. Buy Beryl
I can show you a few key things Sunday if you want to team up...
i would but Im at a wedding, sorry
thanks for the help tho
Ok have a nice time..
anyone have good cargo routes for me? i have a lot to spend on cargo
and idk any routes
beryl
where do i do that
from mc to trade centerin lorvile
smo 10 and 22 best places to buy on mc
just make shure their are no other players nearby, than switch servers
!tradetools ⬇️
One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.
Helps you set your own routes. Don't do most rewarding routes if you want to avoid pirates
does ur ship have to be stored to sell the cargo?
No
Depending on your ship size it's recommended to not store. Higher cargo loads (like the Cat or C2) have a tendency to destroy ships during storage due to a bug.
@worthy scroll I had my ship parked in the hangar on Orison, went to sell Beryl at the place near the hotel, it let me choose my ship but didnt show any cargo. I went to store it as some guys said its better if I store it and then now it doesnt even let me choose the ship (doesnt come up as an option)
Was there another person in the ship or an object placed inside the ship?
Something not cargo, not on the cargo grid.
Well besides cargo, none that i believe
Those are the only bugs I'm aware of right now that cause issues like this, but it wouldn't surprise me if there are more.
time to find out if my ship was destroyed or not
The first time I ran into the bug it didn't say on the ASOP terminal, but for some people it does. I just spawned the ship, went to the hangar and it was in pieces with my cargo all over the place.
Here's the IC report if you want to contribute to it.
https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-75373
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On the prospector can you not change the cargo bags from in cockpit. Or does it just fill all the bags whwn collectin
For one thing the bags are only accepted at the refinery when attached to the ship. However you can switch out empty Prospector bags for Mole bags out in the field.
what drive do i buy for the C2 for beryl runs
If I take the moles bags off a friends mole, and put it on my prospector, then have to claim it do I keep the mole bags?
The TS-2 or the VK 00...
Yes, I use those on my Prospector...
Just make sure you land, store the ship, and change one thing in VLM for it to save
although, I dont know if that was considered an exploit. if so it may have been patched
Id recommend erkul for ship parts but iirc I use the XL-1
XL-1 is size 2. He'd be looking for the TS-2
i cant play and use browser and discord at once
ill crash
so im full up on iron, where can i actually sell it? sc-tools says nothing as they havent added the hull there yet
Just look for where to sell iron instead of trying to specify it for the Hull C
i thought it mattered because i can only dock whilst carrying cargo
not exactly sure where i can and cant dock
i was thinking of going to new babbage but dont know if i can dock
You'll have to sort it out 🤷
I think any major city is a no go for Hull C. Maybe Orison one day but not the others
soooo mining outposts?
No, space stations
right, thats fine ill sort
You can't land, you can't trade with any ground thing
i thought thoses astroid field mining places were akin to stations
Lagrange points ? Most of them have stations yeah.
grim has docking doesnt it?
AFAIK no
Pretty sure it's just Bajini, Everus, Tressler and Seraphim
I think a bunch of the Lagrange stations have docking as well
You can't sell at them with the Hull C though, because that would be way too much content to release in one patch /s
woops, mb, got it mixed up with one of my other ships
Right now before update what you guys think. C2 vs Caterpillar. Should I keep my caterpillar or upgrade
Cat for style, C2 for meta.
Brunnen nailed it. In the future, if modules are implemented, the Cat will be much more versatile & customizable
I would ride it out with the Cat for a year. Hull-C might shake up the hauling meta a bit and Cat could have a glow-up.
Cat is also cheaper so you can eventually CCU your way up to the C2
Is non hull c cargo gameplay changing in any way? Or is gold and beryl still the main commodities
Prices might change, I don't know if PTU prices are the same or not.
But even if the best commodity isn't the same anymore, gameplay doesn't change for haulers
What I prefer to do is have the Cat as a pledge, and use it to earn a C2 in game.
hello guys i have a problems because i can't sell my cargo and somebody told me that they should be appering on the left thank you for answers
There's a bug that causes cargo grids to not show like that if you have an object placed somewhere in the ship. The Corsair has a flask in it (comes with the ship) that can cause this.
So if i remove the flask i could sell the cargo? ( i think the flask is a little golden thing in the center room of the ship)
It should. Maybe. Bugs do be bugs. But it is a known issue.
Ty so much i just started the game and id it worl you will be a hero to me
if i buy a full c2 of beryl how much extra in profit is that?
!tradetools knows ⬇️
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Could someone give me a quick rundown of how cargo works
Buy at point A, sell at point B. Use the link directly over your comment to plan out routes.
Depends on where you bought & sold 🙂
Smo 10 to lorville
You bought for ~1,542,336
Sold for 1,919,568
377,232 profit
Or 19,765 aUEC/min
at which locations can you buy/sell cargo?
nevermind found the link ill try that
Has anyone done a run with the hull c yet? What mats do you pick up at space stations and is it profitable?
@lean solar any more info?
thats the best mat they offer?
dont know i just tried that
alright
i cant seem to buy anything, i keep getting tranfer failed so i think cargo bugged
anyone here know how to undock the hull from the station
its bugged RN
But a workaround I found was to contact the cargo ATC and then the normal ATC again
anyone else able to get the hull c to load the cargo? it tells me its loading but just never does anything
yeah its weird it gave me two hull c's the first one bugged out. the second one undocked normaly but then broke again when it pulled me to the docking collar.
i swear you would think cig wouldve but the hull in for the rest of the ptu waves to further test these busted ass featurs but alas they did not
thats also bugged rn
well hopefully that gets fixed soon, cause thats pretty much all this ship does lol
cargo itself is bugged still? are we now able to sell it
I've managed to load my Hull C with cargo, docked to a spaceport, and now it won't let me undock 💀
I think if you dock with a full load of cargo / with the ship extended, you can't undock anymore
contact cargo services and then the normal ATC
sometimes that works
I have a C2 full of Beryl. Don't buy the max amount that failed for me. Manually use the slider. When I get to orison will not store ship to sell. Fyi...
as in it wont let you sell?
Still in transit
ah, well i heard its bugged if you sell it deletes the cargo
F4 Landing views all screwy then stepping off ship elevator ejected into Orison space so Alt F4. Just going to let it be for tonight.
Dude this shit is wack. The cargo transfer doesn’t even work
At the mining stations?
At any station
The Hull C can’t take any cargo apparently
Because I’m stuck at “Commencing Cargo Transfer 00:00”
Bunch of fuckin bullshit
yeah the c2 elevator is bugged, let it complete the full elevator animation, then get on and off, otherwise it glitches and flings you
is general or personal better for salvage missions when it comes to cargo
personal 30k missions but i heard people arent getting them to spawn the missions, even after doing salvagin
I CTD while loading a Hull-C...came back and it was impounded. Tried to fly down to orison, and it reclaimed all my cargo, and didnt even give me a refund for the purchased cargo...that they still have.
Come with me, as I now do a Zero2Hero run, involuntarily....lawl
They probably couldnt get enough players in the PTU, so released it to the PU
🤣
Guys I have a HULL C filled with Helium where do I sell it?
But. It was for ptu, dunno if its good info for live
I assume the HUll C is only pledge based and not yet in any store as per usual?
Correct
Okay, question then. Where would you rank the HULL? Is it a better hauler than the C2? Or is it just a novelty? Equal?
In my experience
Stick to the C2
You turn fairly much the same profit by running beryl from Ita to Lorville
And for the Hull C, it is a dice roll on whether or not the Cargo Transfer even works
So currently, I’d argue that the C2 is more useful
Hope that helps
AH so its cargo is a little wonky?
Did they make trading profitable again?
Extremely wonky. Lost 680k worth of Helium trying to get it to work
Where can I buy the Hull C?
Oh it's only pledge?
Any new ship is pledge only for a minimum of 90 days
Trading in the Hull C is broken atm anyway.
My C2 trade at Orison worked/sold like normal...
Is it? I just did it no problem.
Where can hull c sell scrap?
I think theres a bug with the docking and the cargo spawning for the Hull C. I'm just going of various peoples experience with it.
Yeah its just not unloading cargo 90% of the time or loading it
Yep
I’m honestly shocked so few people actually are talking about this major issue
I can go make an issue thing right now how do i
And if you stay still in the cargo zone, your ship literally fucking despawns
yeah cuz you're apparently blocking a landing zone
They sold a 500 dollar ship with 0 functionality
Most people don't own a Hull - C 🤷
anyone encountered this issue
i went to daymar picked up some cargo. flew to arc corp to sell. Everytime i tried to sell it said "Removal of cargo failed" after a couple tries all my cargo got wiped and i was left with no money
This is the problem of “overhauling” when done improperly
huh? can you explain, i just got into flying cargo
Did you do Hauling last patch?
I’m saying Overhaul as in a big update
yes a couple times
but i never encountered this issue
i had 800k in cargo just vanish
The update to Hauling has made it almost entirely unplayable
Good to know - Guess i'll stick to bounties and bunkers for awhile then
How much of a profit can the Hull C currently make on a run?
How much can the Corsair hold now?
72 SCU, hasn't changed.
Corsair stowage changed, from 1500k µSCU to 72 000K µSCU (=72 SCU)
Ohhhh stowage. Damn. Thanks for the answer, cheers
lost my connie in the update, dont have the uec to buy a new one, is the RAFT a good hauler? not really looking for an all around ship just cargo runs
some love the raft, i personally hate it. Argo's ships fly like bricks, and fall like them too.
I find the raft handles a lot better than it used to. Although it is definitely still a brick. I don't like hauling with my raft because you have to load each of the three cargo boxes separately. I have also heard that items (particularly drugs) don't sell correctly and break your raft until you claim a new one
im just looking to haul minerals mostly not contraband, if not the raft does anyone have any recommendations for roughly around the same price and cargo hold?
freelancer MAX
carries 120 SCU of cargo
i keep trying to buy gold but it keeps saing failed transaction
try doing -1 from the shop's max inventory and buy the last one individually
first attempt at a Hull C trade run
Is SC trade tools broken?
Holy shit it worked for you?
I was able to load
now I try to unload at tressler
I haven’t been able to load at all
hope it works
I used all my money
my server is somewhat empty, maybe that helps
I have 5 UEC left XD
high risk trading
Dam... can you even afford a burrito?
keep it
its only getting better
in 3.20.1 it should get its tractor beams
and later we get cargo missions
thats where the Hull will shine
I don’t care about any of that rn, I just want it to be able to function
As it stands it’s one of the buggiest ships
yes
wait a few days for people to use it less, and for the bugs to be fixed
remember:
never play on patch day
My brother in Christ, they need to fix the whole cargo system
It’s not just bugged for Hull C
Places taking your cargo without paying, The loading zones being a dice roll on if they’ll work or not, piracy being a huge issue because there’s only 4 places for the Hull C to grab a load from
yes, these are hull C specific bugs
just wait a few days for them to get fixed
so let me get this straight
you want to sell your hull, because of server bugs that affect all ships?
thats just dumb
I'd rather wait for the bugs to get fixed
I would go back to using a Redeemer lol
Who’s to say they’ll even be fixed in the coming months
That worked thanks
is there anywhere that'll buy scrap from a hull c
The only places you can sell with a Hull C are the same places you can buy from with a Hull C.
Would the Aegis Reclaimer be good at trading?
I know its the best scavenger, but Im curios if it could do trading well
Eh I have tried and don't recommend it
It's a very unruly ship to fly, especially in atmosphere. You'll waste a lot of time getting out of the atmosphere just to quant to an OM
Also landing is annoying since a lot of places can't fit it. I preferred running a C2
how to undock with full cargo loaded
the landing zone just won't willing to undock hull C
Would it be do able to do this with the C2 or is there a better option?
Which all trading was broken yesterday. I wasn't getting paid for most materials
Nevermind. Some of the time cargo isn't paying out
yeah
just had the same
I did some salvage missions in my corsair and transfered the cargo from the ships
didnt get payed for any of that cargo
Same. Need to get that vulture
Lorvilie Space Station : Cargo Deck 07 is ALWAYS bugged and unable to detect your ship
Workaround: When the timer is up, Block the Deck 07 with your ship and Request new Cargo Deck before impounding your ship
please someone confirm it and submit bug report
has teh connie's elevator been fixed or is it still wonky when loading ground vehicals?
I'm desciding between the taurus and freelancer max
I prefer the Taurus the blue lights are so cool.
but does the elevator work for loading vehicals?
I have had a Roc on it and did okay.
It's very easy to fly and land. Well behaved ship.
is there a work around for Cargo transfer request not detecting ship in its space
Is the c2 specifically broken? 2 times now it's bugged at the sell terminal, my valkyrie and phoenix no issue
First time it said failed to remove cargo, did remove it and didn't pay
This time it's not even acknowledging the ships existence
park it and store it takes longer but if you really want to play it should work fine
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Note: do not try to rearrange cargo in your hold while in Quantum. It gets sucked into the void.
PSA: cargo selling transactions are failing and eating your goods because of different commodities being vertically stacked, avoid doing this
I think pirates stole my C2 at Daymar I came out the mining station no ship. (Did it de-spawn??) So I Alt f4 and went to a new region the ship was at an unknown location. Later when I checked it was at Yela I figured pirates had it. I did a claim...Not sure what happened I get off the elevator backwards as I send it back up. Be careful.
How long were you outside?
So I had some cargo I tried to sell tonight, and it said something about being unable to transfer cargo, but still took that and some other cargo from the ship.
Is there an order you need to sell stuff in?
It was scavenged cargo from bounty targets, so a lot of mismatched contraband and such
@tall karmadude.
you didnt even have to scroll up for this
lol, I didn't read the chat just asked the question - im tired!
So stack nothing vertically if you can avoid it, got it.
as stated dont vertically stack shit unless its the same
it will consume both products that are stacked on each other
lost 4scu of weevil eggs and plenty of drugs this way
Yeah, lost some maze and like 20SCU of widow that way
So is it better to just trade one commodity at a time?
just dont stack different things on each other
I had parked off the pads and maybe 60 feet away in the open but I could not see the ship from the porch of SCD-1. There were other things going on from chat I was going to buy a Railgun and that party was coming to my site. When I first got there I had been without a helmet because of the Inv. lockup and I thought I could stand the air on Daymar and I had opened the back ramp. Just barely down the ramp I began to choke so closed the ramp and remembered I had some gear of the ship including a helmet and that's when I took the elevator back off the ship and to the SCD 1 building. On that porch I turned back around and looked out and a smaller fighter flew overhead and downwards and I suspect it may have been pirates? But I loaded up the ship anyways since I was in armistice and have waited out pirates before. Anyway I think there may have been an invisible player at the site in which case they have all the advantages unless you "fake buy" cargo, go back to ship and check Comms for a second player then go back out to buy but that is not foolproof either.
Not really the auto loading will keep the cargo seperated from what I know. If you are more concerned just wait a week or so until these glitch issues get patched out and keep informed on discord, Spectrum and game chat. Don't buy more that you are willing to lose.
I was able to BUY last night but don't use the MAX slider button just buy partial amounts of what you want. Also when selling maybe sell partial amounts and see what happens just be informed and if you are tight on money sit out for a week or so.
What's people's go to cargo route in 3.20 with SC trade tools not being updated currently? Haven't played since 3.18 so unsure what's good currently
Feel free to DM if you don't want it public 🤣
So asking a questions that has likely been asked before, but what purpose does the cargo channel serve in the stations?
I think that's the same think as this keybind, like Comms station is the same thing as Alt + N just above.
IIrc it's only for the Hull C for now
Hi, are you referring to the Hull C operations? The Admin terminals buy things like ROC gems and other things you collect on the planets or moons surfaces.
Im just curious as to the process of the cargo loading atm. Im not sure how it all works and i was wondering the best way to transfer cargo from station-to-ship or ship-to-ship at a station
For now, transfering cargo is a simple spawm/despawn cargo in your ship like magic, except for the Hull C
And ship to ship, tractor beam multi tool
The whole cargo thing is more complicated now with the Hull C and the salvage looting aspect.
So you can only really take cargo from station to hull c and from hull c to station then correct?
No. Hull C is the only ship that has a loading time (and animation?). That doesn't meant it's the only ship that can buy/sell to stations. Other ships just are instantly loaded the moment you buy something, like magic
Ah ok, so each station will have a commidity terminal to interact with to buy and fill things up with. So your ship would have to be spawned and own a pad/dock/hangar to fill then yes?
And said goods are limited to what you can buy/sell*
Correct, your ship has to be at the station, stored or not.
What kind of trade do you have or are thinking of getting?
Ok. And there is no way to transfer cargo from one ship to another at the station without selling and/or buying it. It has to be hand transfered then.
trade ship
Yes, transferring from ship to ship has to be done with the use of tractor beams, the station won't do it for you
So here is the hypothetical situation in my head. I would like to buy beryll at a mining facility and then transport it across the system in one trip to sell. So it would essentially be parking my Hull C in orbit, then using a cargo ship to ferry goods from the ground to the air, transport then across the system, and then ferry them back down using a cargo ship. All hand loading and unloading.
I don't think the Hull C can accept hand loaded crates yet???? The Hull A can however.
I'd say it's worth the try
Well i know what im gonna do today
So basically buying with C2, loading HullC, transporting goods and unloading Hull C in C2 to sell ?
Essentially
I don't know if snapping two 16SCU boxes on a HullC makes them 1 32SCU box, but if it doesn't, I'd suggest you only buy amounts of cargo that makes only 32SCU boxes in your HullC
Taking a ship in and out of storage might. Does the Hull C only accept the 32 SCU crates?
That's one more thing I don't know
Just let us know what happens would be great. Otherwise if it don't work you are talking about an upgrade that is 5 or 10 years down the road.
Yes please let us know how it goes ❤️
Lmao im gonna see if i can get a friend or someone on to try, ive got some Beryll and Diamond on a M2 id like to try and transfer
Make sure to not vertically stack them on each other
i can't load cargo with my Hull C at Baijing Point
What do you mean by that?
Vertically relative to the storage plane or relative to the ship
Don't put different commodities on top of each other on the grid
The sale will fail and take your stuff anyway
Only put diamond on diamond, etc
Ok
There are glitching issues with the Hull C. Please read the patch notes or Spectrum threads about any workarounds.
Speaking glitching issues
Hopping in this for experimentation and i saw this in the hangar
So the P 52 wanted to be a landing leg?
Seems to fix itself if you store retrieve again, it becomes operational too
Prompts are missing when it's like that, they return if it's oriented right
Oh I guess not
It would appear so
Yeah i cant move it lmao
So the problem actually comes getting out
anyone else having an issue where selling cargo fails and then it gets deleted?
god damnit....sometimes I should just try reading a few lines above me first....
LOL
A repeating legacy
i bought 2 types of cargo at BJ station, docked at Cargo Bay and the timer just remain 00:00, what is the workaround
@spare cloud @vestal ravine
So you can snap other boxes, not only 32 SCU ones. Wonderful
Yes
the problem is, putting commodities into Hull C by hand are kinda pointless
the time that moving commodities from C2 to Hull C just not worth the effort
Maybe not to you, i play the game how i want to play it
The game needs a cargo storage system on stations and a cargo transfering system from ship to ship inside the station
which should be done by Argo ship? just like Hull C in trailer
But if they have a method of automatically loading and unloading the ship via the station services, both for docked ships and ships inside the hangar, there should be some way to store cargo to the station then load it to the ship. Outside of the station yes i would agree, or if they had a designated cargo area outside the station to be a space forklift then i would agree. but currently it would probally be easier to implement a system to store cargo to the station then to the ship than to create a ship to do it outside the station with a ship that hasnt been implemented into the game yet or if its the RAFT that your speaking of the ability to do anything with cargo
had that too. It was suggested that you don't stack multiple different types of cargo on top of each other. Keep them separated. Seems to have worked for me
my ship was empty 🙂
where can I buy cargo at Baijini?
it can
is everyone having a horrible experience trying to load the Hull C?
This is all im getting
what is a good trading route for the hull c?
That's basically all the routes available with a Hull C
I was able to run a mixed load in my C2 earlier, I just took a minute before launching to manually re-stack the crates to avoid vertical mixing.
The new 32SCU crates are super-nice for that, much better than dealing with 696x 1SCU boxes.
oof, id rather get that 120scu maze roll, less fiddly, more profit 😮

Is this from the personal salvage missions?
Is the Osian Hide/Mule dupe still possble?
Same here
Me too. Backing away from SC until they make Hull C trucking semi viable
Does the Taurus support 32SCU cargo containers?
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOO
done boss
ha ha, thats what im talkin about broooooooo
LITERALLY more than 2x my bank account in one bounty
fat stacks
this was all inside a single c2
one bounty had a c2, m2, reclaimer
m2 and claimer had trash metals
c2 was the fucking jackpot
I had 2 bounties tonight with 32SCU of green weevil egs which were 3.5/3.8mil each
Dude I had over 100 scu maze, and lagged so hard I crashed FML
Probably the thing I'm most eager about, is cargo hauling between systems. Like, let's say Pyro doesn't have any naturally occuring deposits of Beryl. It would be in extreme demand across that entire system.
seems to be player to player a different experience
I like those odds
holy shit if you like left and right mouse click on cargo terminals you can click the number of scu you want to buy and type
its a bit hit and miss, but I like to buy exactly 100 Laranite for my Freelancer MAX and sell at the Orphanage then run drugs on the return trip. I was forever clicking trying to buy as close to 100 as I could
Did they fix the sell Bug eher the Cargo Just despawns when selling
crazy
also sold maze for like 7 mil earlier
so satisfying
Anyone has some good routes with the HULL C?
That's the only routes available for now.
Where can I sell weavile eggs?
Alt + N if it's not bugged
cargo wont load any ideas?
pray for hotfix
so your telling me try again in six months? 🤣
yesnt
No, just for 3.20.0.a or 3.20.1
They released some fixes via official comms
It's bugged
where can i read them? where are their offical comms?
Spectrum and/or RSI website
(Friday) We are currently testing a new 3.20.0a build on the PTU server with many fixes to hopefully resolve the majority of database and inventory issues. We are hoping to get as much data as possible on this build and get it out onto live as early as possible tonight or tomorrow
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Anyone know a place that buys weevil eggs?
can i sell and buy cargo with hull C w/o getting bug
Possible try a Admin terminal...
Wow thx
A Okay good luck.
Brios breaker buys em
Yea hey Average are you familiar with the Salvage Yards for selling certain items?
You can just leftclick the number itself lmao
Just spam alt n works for me
That shrinks the commodity for me
it wouldn’t let me select my ship in commodity shop why?
because nothing is working right
o rip is their a fix or not yet
Nope
I just bed logged with my cargo, servers are pretty much unplayable right now
I wouldn't risk bedlogging in a new patch with cargo :S
ffs well does cargo save if I stored my ship?
Yes
alr good at least I’m alr Till fix
What were you trying to sell ? Where exactly ?
ya I couldn't be bothered, it was salvaged so no true loss at end of day
grimhex
drugs
wallow
and mace
I tried at reclamation on hurston, drugs. couldn't select ship as well
there was ships abandoned everywhere
fr I saw that at daymar
maybe try storing ship unless you can't afford the loss. either way you might be out of luck
I was going 30k missions and scooping cargo so annoying :/
same
it was my first one so I never saw the profit is it worth doing?
you can make millions very easily with this patch
Yeah it's pretty good
Who knows
Cargo still fucked rn?
Don't stack different kinds on top of each other
It may or may not survive a hotfix patch (3.20.0a or whatever)
Hi, whats the biggest cargo ship?
The Hercules C2 for standard cargo (696scu) but the new Hull C has much more but has limited use cases.
anyone experiencing a bug where you are able to sell your cargo but you dont get the money?
Yeah I've had this, seemed to happen during server backend hiccups
Still not got the money and it's been days
It happens to me on 1/5 transactions. I find it's a good idea to just sell a few commodities at a time rather than the entire slider at once
Any word of if they are fixing it and if there is a patch for it soon? i wana go back mining
According to comments on issue 63376, materials that aren't in a stack of boxes will sell correctly 🤔
I have some materials refining but I'll have to test this when they're completed tomorrow
Would be interesting if it's not to do with the server but the physical layout of the boxes
Also an interesting theory - by never selling the entire box of a material, the layout of the cargo bay never changes, meaning the issue cannot occur.
i see this method used but never explain if it works for mixed freight.
The issue that happens the most is when fixed frieght is sold.
Their theory is that selling a box under another box causes the above box to despawn, which causes the sell failure. If so, then this should also mean mixed cargo will sell correctly since the grid layout never changes until the very last unit is sold.
I definitely want to test this out properly since I sell a lot of mixed ores.
I guess I could just find a mining post and buy a bunch of random low value commodities
No, just dont stack mixed commodities
stacking maze on top of etam or w.e causes it to fail and delete
What if you took a Hull C into atmo to a mining station with a friend in the pilot seat and you in a small ship that can land and access the kiosk to buy cargo without landing the HC? I used to do this in a carrack. As long as I was in armistice it let me get cargo.
Weren't doing this alone with the carrack, with a 2nd ship inside carrack hangar ?
Because AFAIK, you can't buy anything if someone is inside the ship
Dunno how that is for Hull C tho
Ahh yes that's true but also a really weird and dumb restriction
I tried selling yesterday with someone inside and it wouldn't let me, which was dumb since they were my armed guard.
I wonder how hard it would be to get in and out in of the hull c with like a pisces.
Welp, in hoping to test cargo selling I just ended up with my ship being stuck in Moving To Storage and didn't even make it to selling 
Ah well
Alright, so I got to sell it eventually and can confirm selling all but one does NOT work with mixed cargo. However, the boxes that were layered on top all sold successfully, while the boxes below did not.
So the best rule of thumb seems to be to as mentioned, ideally not mix cargo, but if you must, try to sell the top layer first before the bottom.
When manually loading stuff, (from salvage for example) I imagine you'd just stack the same materials on itself and only the same materials? and only Sell all of it?
You can sell in whatever quantities you like, but it appears that if you bury a crate under another crate of a different material, selling that buried crate may fail.
It may also in turn cause the crate that was on top of it to disappear
idk about quantities, but the rest of what you said is correct. i think its buggy about selling 50 scu of something when you only have 32scu crates of it, because i dont think itll take a partial crate and leave you with the remainder, if that makes sense
i had a load of maze yesterday (only maze, nothing else, so stacking didnt matter) and ran into failed transactions and i think its because i only had 32scu containers of it
That's interesting, thanks for chipping in. I'd assume if you tried to sell part of a 32SCU crate it would just keep the 32SCU crate until it's fully depleted - as would be logical in real life - but I couldn't say for certain.
It's probably not a coincidence though that this bug cropped up at the same time as we had all these new container sizes added
i agree that would be logical, however something was messing up. that being said, i did have some of those crates stacked, so maybe the bottom crate sold first?
maybe i will grab a 32scu crate of something and see if i can sell part of it and report back
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It was for me
ill try again
Maybe the demand was full?
Yo is the caterpillar's ladder at the back of pilot area broken, i can go down but not up it
basically asking if there is some sort of work around
Stairs :S
no stairs in this area only ladder
I heard in chat that there a Hull C rental at one of the lagrange stations?
who says the redeemer has no cargo grid?
Is there a place to sell the drugs near houston planet
yeah wheres the illegal commodities kiosk?
Reclamation and Disposal Orinth used to be the go-to.
Hull C owners, ever tried to get impounded with your ship full of cargo above a city so you can sell here ?
interesting idea, i could give it a try
Don't do it with something expensive in case it doesn't work and you can't even retrieve your ship.
Let us know how it goes ❤️
Last night I tried the hull c and the cargo simply wouldn't want to load. I tried everything from the patch notes and still wouldn't work. IDK if you guys have anything else to try that might help
Try parking it close to the ground in armistice above a mining station. Suicide, fly back in a ship like the Pisces and use the cargo terminal to see if it loads, then ferry yourself back inside with the Pisces. No idea if that's possible because I have never seen the entry mechanics of the HC.
Then you just gotta impound at a planet like MT, sell, and go claim at a station.
Damn yeah, I think I'm just gonna wait for the patch to fix it unless I have more time to spare 😔
does gem selling not work?
I would urge everyone to avoid trading/selling commodities and refined ores at the moment, there is a good chance the transaction fails and you lose the cargo without receiving payment
Try making sure the Cargo Grid sub-category is selected?
its in my ship inventory
i looted it at outposts
Ah, right. No clue then.
there is a workaround for that
dont stack different commodity types above another
I don't think ores are "stacked". Pretty sure they just show up in the inventory (I) location, they don't go into the cargo hold like cargo items.
Assuming the seller is mining them with a ROC or something other than buying them in crates at trading console.
has the cargo removal failed bug been fixed yet if it hasnt is there a workaround
no confrimed not working with no work around
not fixed, refrain from stacking different commodities
ie: ONLY stack gold on top of gold, slam on top of slam, etc
you mix them, it fails and deletes both
I don't think the corsair supposed to hold that much lol - must be over 150scu 😄
It should be working, servers are doing better now but it's a lot of risk for the same return you can do a salvage haul
Well it's always a risk lol
I lost all my credits but it was day 1 back up to 500k now
How do I get bigger ship contacts for risky salvage? All I'm getting rn are msr, corsair, and 400i
As I said in #star-citizen you need to complete a 20k contract to unlock the next tier
the selling bug affects all ships
the Hull C issues are undocking and loading the cargo
no
dont stack different commodities
so like dont buy beryl and helium
yes
or when you do make sure that no beryl box stands on a He box
otherwise that stack is deleted
How can I actually sell shit without it failing
doing 30k salvage missions and the drugs do not like selling
Im challeneged in the head

can anyone confirm that trading diamond is safe? last time i got robbed by the terminal when the transaction failed and the goods are taken, but no money given.
i 30k'ed last time i tried trading :D
If I dump too much Widow for Brios demand how long do I have to wait until it will sell again
Depends how many other people are also selling in other shards
Btw, is there any easy way to look at a cargo box and tell what it is?
Scan it / tractor it. It now shows the name for every box
Ah, fantastic
You can help mitigate the problems with 30k by going to your primary spawn location and pulling your ship out. (Don’t go to a TDD untill after you visually inspect the cargo)
You’ll find that if your out in a ship and it 30k’s. Your ship will be sent to your prim location. If however you go straight to a TDD to sell you’ll find that the cargo won’t be registered on the cargo grid.
To get around this pull your ship out. And by visually inspecting the cargo. Will force it to spawn on the ships cargo grid and register. You’ll then be able to put the ship away and sell your stuff
NOTE: I copied the above from another thread does it make sense?
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hi i have illegal cargo where do i go to sell it? I am near yela
I'm pretty sure you can sell it at grim hex at admin. I might be wrong
i went to brios scrapyard and sold it! woooo. My first mission complete!
made 200k with the cutlass now i will do a few more and buy a bigger ship
any suggestions btw?
Didn't they just change that to be your last spawn or something
amazing
apearently you can just enter the Hull C when you arent owner and the owner is unable to lock the ship
(not talking about docking ports)
I just lost over 1mil UEC because someone stole my Hull C sitting next to a landing pad at seraphim station while locked down
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what are some good trade routes to do with smaller ships like a corsair
Well, I typically fill up on beryl get halfway to microtec and 30k, then wait around 10m to recover my ship at port tressler, QT to NB and CTD as soon as I drop out of QT and lose the whole load.
But seriously though, decide what level of risk your comfortable with. Gold is high risk, but has some nice payouts IF you can buy cargo and dodge pirates, 30k’s, and CTD’s. Drugs pay nice but you have to add on limited buy volumes and police scans.
Nothing else in game comes remotely close to the inflated income of risky ‘salvage’ missions though
I like to run beryl because it’s legal, so no police scans, and not the highest profit margin, so less pirates and competition from other haulers
will hurston security target me if i have e'tam?
I love a strategy that integrates 30k's
They are random. I have been hit twice for hauling illegal goods, once over the salvage yard and once just in orbit. It's just a CS2 if you run and then you can pay it, but if you power down you lose the cargo and still get the CS
so if you get the message 'cargo removal failed' is your cargo gone and you get no credits?
Guess I will need to be super careful stacking
its been suggested to stack only the same cargo on top of each other, or if you have a good memory start selling from the top down
All the rubbish stuff sold and I lost the only decent cargo from the haul so 100k haul was like 15k
Yeah I thought I had tbh but I must've mixed some lol
Yeah I had 100% success just now selling in single stacks
ie. no boxes on top of each other
But I expect it also works if said stacks are the same material
Also I find it helps to pick trade routes with longer distances. The less optimal the route, the less likely you are to see it targeted by pirates.
It also means you're more likely to be able to sell, because of increased demand at those outposts.
In fact, just did another haul - taking the time to rearrange everything into same-type stacks - and again, 100% success.
So yeah, keep that pyrotool handy ;)
(and don't try removing the box at the bottom of the stack unless you want to witness physics chaos)
Twice I’ve ended up prone, clipped into a 32-crate, due to physics issues.
I just ended up nearly putting my Hull A on it's side 
that’ll do it
Did this update fix the cargo thing?
Somewhat
There's still issues such as cargo going into the void when you try and sell it
I'm losing credits as fast as I'm making them lol
Are you checking your stacks before selling?
Yeah I'm being careful but still seeing issues
Tryna sell top down or keep on one level
I might claim my ship in case the grid is bugged
so quantanium from a salvage mission can be sold at TDD's just like if you mined it? or does it count as stolen?
no it sells the same as legal
thanks
Where can i sell gasping weevil eggs?
Nevermind, had to go to a nqa terminal
Cru l4 doesnt work, has to be brios or Reclamation and disposal
bro
Can you sell slam at grimhex?
guys got 235 dollars wich are the best ships i can buy for trading in the univers
Not enough I paid 440.00 for the C2...
I sold Neon there so it should sell.
Grimhex doesnt take everything
found 125 scu of maze yesterday
My biggest motherlode was 192SCU of Quantanium the other day. Was absolutely nutso.
How much did you make? Was planning on filling a C2 with nothing but quant
Does anyone happen to know if the update(s) today fixed the bug where stacking different kinds of commodies on top of each other breaks selling?
Maybe they're doing this to appease those who lost ships? Get a leg up?
How's the hull c loading and unloading with this patch?
NVM they just posted a new one saying it's fixed. I'll give it a try soon!
No it didn't
OK so I am told the A2 isn't a good choice compared to the C2 or M2 for doing the illegal 30k salvage mission looting, because it has much less cargo.
Thing is, once I get to 200 cargo, I kinda want to sell my haul anyways at the scrapyard. I don't think I would want to keep adding more cargo past then because if I die at the scrapyard before selling it, I lose all that time.
And the A2 could drop some bombs on the scrapyard before I go to the terminal so that I can clear any rats and be much more safe selling that smaller haul? Does this make sense or is this stupid.
Also would it be possible to hover the A2 over the terminal, while a gunner sits on the turrets, and I go sell the items or does the ship have to be landed to sell the items
@warm sapphire the A2 is fine. People are too focused on what the cargo grid holds. You can put 14 32 SCU containers in an A2. 6 of them in grid, the rest just stacked.
You can also put a Pisces in the rear over the bomb compartment and fly it down instead of landing the ship, but it's more hassle than needed. Just have your friend cover you on the ground by the terminal and make sure to close the ship/elevator while selling.
Anyone tried loading the Hull C yet?
That Quant was roughly 5m aUEC.
why the hercules ships are so cheap?
Because they're basically just empty shells with thrusters
5mil a good budget already 🤷
I would have guessed 15mil based on the cost of the other ships in the game but idk much just seems like that much cargo and maneuverability and the weapons and shields and all that would be worth more.
They're quit small ships compared to a Reclaimer for example. And it's also about the functionnalities of the ship.
nice
As I said, Hercules are just empty shells, except for the A2 that has a little gun n bombs bonus
Reclaimer, in comparison, is a very complete salvaging/munching ship
Should do all my comparisons with reclaimer but you get the idea
So I have a Hull A and am about to slightly upgrade it to a Freelancer. Any game play reasons why I might want hold off in 3.20?
Freelancer Max has a larger cargo bay, but both it and the base model require loading from the rear and have some of their cargo space restricted to 2SCU or 1SCU crates due to a doorway from the main hold. This is in contrast to the Hull A's external cargo plates.
Yep. Can a regular lancer take one 16 SCU create in the back? I like the ease of loading of the Hull A but don't like the fagility and etreme lack of speed. If I spent the money to go to the Lancer MAX, I'd just go to a Taurus for a little more instead.
GENIUS! i just have one question how
Wow! Was that found on a contract ship?
also which connie is that?
i usually throw that into the void, takes too much space
especially when there's 4 of them
32scu
not worth
man i'm bummed i just lost my c2 with like 200 scu of maze
The base Lancer can take a 32 crate wrapped in 2-crates, I believe.
Wow, isn't a 32 crate twice as long as a 16? Didn't think the back of a regular lancer was that long.
Yeah they are
Max and base Lancer hold grid is 9SCU long, 32s are 8 long
Are the ship tractor beams in 3.20 live or is it still hand tractor?
whats the best variant of the connie for taking cargo from wrecks
Well if the Lancer can take a 32 SCU crate that's a big plus the Hull A can't do so I'm definitely pulling the trigger on the Hull A to Lancer upgrade I already have.
Taurus has the biggest cargo capacity.
Taurus
Taurus is my favorite for many reasons! Even for hauling snub(s) I like it more!
its also gonna have a ship tractor beam soonTM right?
yep
Iirc the Taurus has a tractor in place of the snub bay
Nope. In place of the lower turret.
nah it ditches the snub for more cargo the tractor beams the lower turret
Also, Taurus bottom turret, the one supposed to have the tractor beam, can currently have a S2 weapon equipped on.
two s2s
That's just a bug, and just 1 S2 weapon, but worth knowing and having if you do multicrew
Oh yeah. Misread what you said.
If you equiped it could you do anything with it?
Yeah, you can fire with it
It works just like top turret or bottom turret on andromeda. But only 1x S2
Nice accident in the short term. Wonder if it has twice the capacitor? Could probably fire constantly if so.
Guys any advice wich ship should i buy for trading
best ship to rent for the 30k missions is a normal connie?
Yes
yeah
k
anyone manage a successful Hull C trade yet - something always doesn't work lol:
honestly might as well just give the credits away at this point 😄
cargo loading bugged?
Yeah it just never loads, trying a relog, hopefully didn't forfeit the cargo
were do i sell Gasping Weevil Eggs
salvage yards is where I go
anywhere specific to fly around and grab the c2 contracts or just grab them all over
I had trouble around Hurston but not Yela or Mic L1...
Can quant no longer be sold at Orison?
same at Seraphim
had my biggest haul which was 183SCU of weevil eggs + a bunch of other misc crap for over 15mil in total profit.
Hi all is the c2 supposed to have a tractor beam?
I have not heard that the C2 is getting a tractor beam. Cat/Taurus will have them
anyone on here know how to sell cargo at brios with the hull c?
Hull C can only trade here ⬇️
o damn thank u
Has anyone ever inquired about the seemingly arbitrary rule that a ship must be empty of crew for cargo to be sold?
I feel like having armed guards on board to protect your cargo makes a great deal of sense (armored truck) yet the game mechanics prevent this.
My guess is it's related to not being able to track what items are in what inventory. If it's in the ship it's ship inventory.
hello. I am trying to do a hull c trade route (helium). I'm new, so basic steps may have been missed. I Delievered the hull c (not retrieve), purchased the helium from serraphim (selected Hull c as destination) and then retrieved the ship. I did not intially realize I had to goto a cargo area, and left... then saw the message, and came back to serraphim. I did not see where to go for loading cargo. I tried calling cargo, but they did not respond. my timer then ended for cargo pickup. Question, did I lose this cargo? am I out 900k? is there a way to get this back?
Second question: I tried buy a small amount of helium for round 2... I got the cargo and went to another space station (currently at Everus Harbor). I initiated docking procedures, but cant dock because my hull c is extended with cargo. Am i supposed to contact cargo services first? How do I get rid of this stuff? My worry is that once I initiated docking procedures, cargo services wont talk to me
ok, so i guess I have to dock, store ship, process the sale of helium, then retrieve the ship ship, request cargo, then goto cargo area... and wait. Problem is I did all that, im sitting in the blue box, and cargo services isnt doing anything and the count down is counting down.... till 0
Hull C trading is heavily bugged and I would advise against it until it's completely fixed
Some seem to be playing without any issue, but they're only a few
I was 8 runs in, and got a 30k now my ship is glitched inside the docking port 😂
Hull C that is
ur in the buy tab if it doesnt work when u switch to sell wait for the server tick i sold it there earlier u can still sell there
Weird, I normally don't need to switch tabs, just select an inventory and item. Sold just fine at Lorville.
they might have overstock wait for the server tick
There's no need to switch tabs, ever
That's just to see what goods the place you're at buys/sells and their stock
is there a trick to ship scanning to see what cargo they have?
Get closer
optimal range?
About 100 meters
Yeas, 40 SCU iirc
can you upgrade scanners? never seems to reveal what they have as cargo anymore for me
No you can't
Scanning is kinda bugged rn and you often have to try multiple times from different angles before it finally works
best salvage to look out for in the risky salvage missions? is there a good list you guys keep track of?
MAZE/Weevil Eggs are top value per SCU. Quant/Slam probably next best value. Then anything in really big containers that is easy to pack and unload like E'tam/Widow - but avoid metals and such as they tend to be a pain to sell for very little return.
what about neon + where can i sell quant ? it doesn't seem to work at brios
no way, shit works way more 400+ away than within 100
if it fails just point somewhere else on the ship and try again and get frustrated that this mechanic is still broken
