industrial-professions

[north kite]

Then ask what are some good routes to run

Man needs to learn piracy 101

[indigo shore]

What's the best rentable trade ship for gold and Slam?

[cinder hamlet]

For drugs you probably wouldn’t have enough aUEC to fill a C2. So I would get a cutlass black for drugs. You wont make much doing legal cargo with anything under a C2

My opinion of course

[north kite]

Misc freelancer at any station above a main city except P.O.

Go to the cargo deck

[crimson oak]

andromeda probably has the best cargo space on the rentals, or 600i

[indigo shore]

Thanks squig and set 👍

[icy sun]

Well you can get the Cutlass black and caterpiller rented for free rn

[wary maple]

Helium has been nerfed F

[rough ingot]

It already sucked

[crimson mantle]

Can party favors still be sold anywhere or is the event over as far as that commodity goes? 🤔

[quiet night]

Indeed, I just really don’t like the way the Taurus looks, pointless thing really but It does annoy me a lot

[rancid egret]

Did hellium get nerfed?

[fair delta]

anyone now a good route with the m2

[fair delta]

yes

only 178 per unit now

[rancid egret]

ah ok, because it used to be 400

[fair delta]

yeah i wish it was : (

[north kite]

How cool would it be if they implemented something like x4 where there are npc commodity runners that you could intercept and destroy, causing the place the npc was going to have an under stock of the commodity it was running if you do it enough

[proud pumice]

So what's the best place to sell cargo from illegal missions, like eggs and drugs and such?

Or places

[jolly meadow]

"it already sucked" yea 300% profit almost zero risk sucked

[obtuse sierra]

is there a reason not all of my cargo would show up to sell at once?

also taking a while to process orders

[rough ingot]

Now do the actual flat numbers and not just percentages

[warm spear]

Are ships still randomly exploding while entering or leaving or just sitting in hangars? I lost several cargo loads that way yesterday

[jolly meadow]

used to be a 300 profit so using a c2 thats 208,200 in profit for an investment of only 69,400 which is 300% also the run only takes about 10-12 minutes if you skip the tram ride by storing and relogging

sure it earns about half the profit of beryl but for a tiny fraction of the investment which makes it far less risky with all the server instability

[mossy radish]

is there a guide to ID cargo visuallky?

[valid shoal]

hey how do i sell ores in cargo boxes

[brittle orchid]

anyone have any tips for dealing with the atc bugging out? i keep trying to land and store my ship, but it says im blocking an active bay and only lets me claim it. it doesnt start the auto-storage with blocking a bay either

okay, did something that worked

just exited to menu, joined a different region, and the ship was stored

ezpz

[tender cape]

where can I sell illegal cargo?

[vestal ravine]

I am on a team that is producing such a visual guide. Give us 2 weeks...

[mossy radish]

thanks

[vestal ravine]

Grim Hex or the no questions asked terminals like cru l5.

[wraith girder]

Yo so me and my friend were running narcotics to breakers yard in daymar and we kept getting blown up by this AI ship im guessing how do you deal with it or is there another good spot that doesn’t have that ship?

[mossy radish]

https://sc-trade.tools/home go to best buyer

top left trading>best buyer type in the commodity you're trying to sell and it will show you the locations and sell prices

[nocturne blaze]

How much does cargo/trading actually make usually? kinda curious how it compares to salvaging

[delicate girder]

So I accidentally bought some waste, so I went to trade tools and it says I can sell it at PO, but I go there and it says cannot sell.

Could it be illegal waste? If so, how do I know if it's illegal?

[crimson oak]

try major cities TDD

a lot of those trade sites can be outdated on price/locations

[edgy elk]

depend on the cargo size

doing drug with a cutlass can bring 100k in 15min but its not all the time

legal trading can bring same same over bigger distances with a c2

[nocturne blaze]

i was thinking of getting the max or the taurus if its profitable. Mining and salvaging isnt very fun sometimes, where as flying and landing seems chill and enjoyable.

Less tedious than getting in and out of chairs like with the salvaging, i just dont know if its easy to find things to haul to make money? never tried it

[pastel radish]

what is the "Party favors" cargo that is at CRU L1 buyable for 1.2k/unit ?

and is it worth to buy and sell it at a TDD ?

[edgy elk]

have u tried ROC mining ?

otherwise i would go drug run with that ship

coz you need a lot of space (C2) to make real money with trading

also with trading you need to put your money on the line

on a full C2 of beryl its 1.5m

[flat solar]

I turned to cargo specifically because of how buggy ROC mining has been. between certain rocks having their charge bugged out or extraction mode not working...

usually spend 80% of my time waiting for the extraction mode to work

[tulip wave]

man im such a dummy, fell for the construction materials rush

7mil cargo for just barely 90k profit

[kind trout]

30k trading best xD

[vestal ravine]

Take it to a TDD best chance to sell it. Or have a friend use V key to scan your ship.

[gentle flint]

I've been trading stolen goods but I haven't really been turning a profit. I don't know what routes to take or how to make it more efficient. I know the basics of trading (buying from "no questions asked," selling, etc) but I don't know how to do it effectively. It anybody could help me out or give me some pointers, that'd be great.

[zenith maple]

30k protection should be working now, just make sure to wait before logging in, and also dont claim the ship. it should go back to home and you need to retrieve it there.

[vestal ravine]

I haven't been able to play the last 2 weeks so am not familiar with the salvage contracts in person. However I have pretty good experience with straight up Vice trading. Just send me a DM and we can talk about that more and when I get back into the game next week will try these salvage missions. It sounds like certain ships in the mission can have high value crates for sale which is great because trading requires a big upfront investment for the C2 I use.

[brittle orchid]

been using the cat for runs, having a fantastic time

would love to be able to do laranite, but the restock is so slow if anyone else is running it that i can almost never maximize profits

been running beryl on hurston, very consistent and easy to do

pretty safe too

[inner helm]

So tried my hand at cargo today
30k protection worked great but i lost all my profits after storing my Hercules

Only to find it as destroyed after i tried to retrieve it :<

[spare cloud]

Yeah that's a new 3.19 thing. Maybe don't store if you're about to sell, just sell like it. It's better not to risk your money :S

[inner helm]

Very true !
I only stored because the goods terminal didn't show my hercs inventory (even though it did let me select the Hercules) and such i couldn't sell the stuff.
Was hoping storing and retrieving would fix it.
I'll be more careful next time ig

[vestal ravine]

Lorville has a surface entrance perhaps land there and run to the TDD terminal to sell it.

[inner helm]

I was selling at MT
But I'll keep that in mind when planning for next time !

[tulip wave]

MT has a surface entrance to Commons too

but if you have the bug with not showing cargo it isnt useful

[inner helm]

Can you sell even when your ship isnt landed in a hangar ?

[tulip wave]

happened to me earlier

yeah, you park the ship outside

[inner helm]

Ah i thought you had to be at a valid parking spot
Thx, really useful to keep in mind !

[vestal ravine]

I guess you could go back to the ship and do a normal store process. Will 3.19.1 fix this??

[tulip wave]

those tram rails come from spaceport

[inner helm]

Well
The only option i got now is to file a claim.w.
So rip the cargo either way

[vestal ravine]

I would like to see a view like this for the Lorville garage entrance. I could not find it even in the daytime. Also it's a longer run but nbis has a garage entrance by the ship terminals.

[brittle orchid]

really? every run i did yesterday i stored my cat, never had a single issue with losing profits

[spare cloud]

It can happen. Just a small risk but with big consequence if it was a damn full C2

[brittle orchid]

gotcha, good to know

luckily im almost at max profit on my cat so hopefully i won't have to worry about losing cargo soon

planning to get 6 mil so i can buy my own cat and have enough to get full profit on beryl

[spare cloud]

IMO there's no reason not to buy a C2 over the Cat other than wanting a Drake ship.

[brittle orchid]

i honestly just don't like how the C2 looks lol

[crimson oak]

I've noticed if you use the auto-pilot landing, it reduces that happening, or maybe it's coincidence. When you are hovering just over the pad you can hold down N and it will auto-land you. I've had no problems having my ship recognised since I started doing that anyway. Possible confirmation bias though.

[brittle orchid]

it's objectively better in function but the cat is just so much more my style

[spare cloud]

Yeah this too, I can understand they look weirdly large and somewhat flat but not really flat. It can't be described

[brittle orchid]

yea lmao

it's like it just has a tiny smooth head

just doesn't look like how i expect a cargo ship to look

granted i am also just a sucker for big, chunky, industrial spaceships

[frail rain]

Anyone know how to fix the cargo not showing up in TDD terminals bug??

Beryl to Huston. Bought 696 was only able to sell 202 but there’s still 400 in my c2. Shows In TDD it’s 0/696.

Tried relogging and restoring. Tried to go to a18. No luck.

[patent egret]

I as just reading through the chat and found this what does scanning a friends ship have to do with selling ore, is there some sort of interaction with that

[vestal ravine]

The player didn't know what was in the crate. The first step in selling cargo is knowing what it is.

[patent egret]

oh i see.

[quartz lance]

Can anyone recommend a good cargo ship? looking to swap my taurus for a corsair and then pledge a seperate ship. some people say C2 some say Caterpillar i am not sure which route to go

Hull A does not seem to have a lot of cargo space

[tawdry siren]

for me C2 is best - It can move in atmo, Catepillar was like a brick and flying it was painful - with C2 it is pleasure, also C2 have Shields (with capital S) so you can charge QD and run, with catepillar you will explode before it will charge up

Also sold my Taurus for Corsair 🙂

[spare cloud]

C2 is clearly the best out of the two, on all stats. Just get a cat if you like its look more than the C2

[brittle orchid]

C2 is best but i am a sucker for the cat

i honestly really enjoy flying the cat, just takes a little practice, not sure why people dislike it so much

[mossy palm]

Because Drake goes all-in when designing ships for specific purposes. For Catterpillar, purpose is to be a long rnage hauler, both cargo and vehicle, that's why it is sich longboi, and brick to handle, especially in atmo.

And as far as I understand, cargo weight still doesn't fit into flight system. Yet.

[quaint mango]

what commodity would yall recommend for smaller ships? i've only got a cutty rn and was thinking about laranite

[spare cloud]

Drugs are better. Lawful cargo isn't worth the time it take with less than 120 SCU

[mossy palm]

Yeas, as much as it is risky, both CS and pirate/griefer wise, drugs are only good cargo if you got small ship.

[brittle orchid]

for a cutty, drugs are def better

[quaint mango]

drugs it is then lol

[brittle orchid]

you only wanna hit up laranite etc if you have a few hundred scu

good luck :3

[quartz lance]

i agree with this, but it seems the QT fuel is actually kinda low on the CAT

went from CRU to Arc and had like under 75%

[mossy palm]

While you can make profit with smaller ships, it wont be in any appreciable amounts money wise after refueling and repairs, and you cant always count on RNGesus to be merciful when looting crates at trading outposts.

[mossy palm]

Depends on wich QT engine you had. Some are gasguzzlers but fast, others are economical but slow. Same thing as you buy vehicle for yourself in IRL.

[brittle orchid]

honestly I've been using it for moon to planet hauling, i end up running out of atmo fuel first

otherwise qt fuel barely drops below 10k

[mossy palm]

I just brought up erkul calculator, default engine is Mil grade C class. Best availbale for Catterpillar are Erebos (Civie A class) and TS-2 (Milspec A class).

[brittle orchid]

hell yea

im gonna deck my cat out when i can buy one in game

[quartz lance]

just a stock Cat, rented for drake day

[uneven sun]

Is 30k protection working now? Got a full load in a C2 then 30k 🤦

[spare cloud]

It should be

[uneven sun]

Find out shortly 🤦

[quartz lance]

30k protection is on, they re-enabled it

[uneven sun]

So went to A18 retrieved it, stored, transfering to storage for ages then was unknown 🤦😂

[mossy palm]

How much did you wait before rejoining the game?

[uneven sun]

About 15 minutes, it's all good, I went to the TDD and it recognised the ship so managed to sell it all.

30k protection works but stresses you out 😂

[plush dove]

whats the best shit to haul with a C2

cause currently ive been using titanium

[mossy palm]

Agricium, larantie, quantanium.

[loud spade]

!fit

[wary tusk]

Can it fit?

Credit goes to u/KriLL3 on reddit

[brittle orchid]

theres no way to see a facility's stock before going there, right?

[vestal ravine]

Beryl also...

[plush dove]

can no longer do it because i dont have money

[north kite]

Mainly Laran

But the problem is when a lot of people try cargo hauling Lara/beryl at the same time

So it’s gonna be out of stock most of the time

[vestal ravine]

Sorry, I know it costs a lot.

[brittle orchid]

beryl doesnt really run out, but it fills up sell locations fast

[brittle orchid]

what do yall recommend for lara routes? i feel like im constantly unable to fill my cat and have to settle for beryl

[vestal ravine]

Did you try Lathan? In 3.18 I tried 5 Lara purchases there 3 were 50 to 91 scu the rest not so good. Another idea is buy once go into space bedlog and come back again or just store and return. After the game stabilizes more.

[brittle orchid]

been doin lathan and bezdek mostly

thing is at that point it ends up being faster to just buy beryl

just wish there was a way to check before flying there

[brittle orchid]

ouch, 1.5 mil lost to a 30k

wait

maybe not

[south egret]

hey, where can i sell uncut slam?

and is it worth anything?

i just found a crate

1scu

[brittle orchid]

uncut slam is worthless

[south egret]

ok thx ^^

[willow tiger]

Hey guys, I'm selling some salvage cargo at NB, I was able to sell 1 scu, but I can't sell the rest? (it shows up as red). Any idea why or how to fix?

[shy olive]

where can i see these pls?

[flat solar]

you cant

[shy olive]

fck

[twilit horizon]

Anyone have issues where it charges you for entire load, but doesn’t put all of it in there?

[jolly plover]

is a caterpillar worth it for cargo runs?

[deft quartz]

Is there a sheet like this for ships inside ships?

[kindred gust]

When I put cargo into the garage of the carrack, is it recognized by the system so that I can sell the cargo?

[spare cloud]

Better have a C2 unless you like the Cat look better

[spark star]

How did you get thoseeee

[turbid blade]

I have some questions for any of ya'll in here that have been actively attempting cargo running this patch (braver men than me). What cargo has been working the best for you? are the restock times on buyable minerals ball busting right now? what kind of profits per hour are you realizing?

[cloud condor]

if you have a big cargo ship lik ethe C2, beryl is good

[turbid blade]

Yeah I was eyeing up beryl and possibly laranite. any trade good besides minerals worth it/

[cloud condor]

medical, if you can find some 🙂

[tight sapphire]

if i wanted to get started in trading with a cutlass is there a route or good you would recommend?

[uneven grove]

Nothing will make you profit in a cutlass except drugs

[shy olive]

Stolen from 150k salvage mission

[vestal ravine]

You can go to the Trade Tools site and put together some basic routes. Some trade goods pay more at certain cities. Avoid the lowest tier of trade items. Grind up to like a Freelancer Max.

[tight sapphire]

thanks, I normally am doing salvage but with the 30ks due to the freefly ( i hope) I have lost like $200k with accepting salvage missions just looking for something to try thats different

[gentle flint]

Would anybody be willing to help me trade drugs? I'm not very experienced with it and I would definitely give you 50% of the profits if someone helped me out. If anybody is willing, I'll make a VC for us

[silver birch]

Is there any live website where you can see what to buy and transport to sell? For best profit?

[spare cloud]

#looking-for-session

[hollow sedge]

Anybody got some cargo missions?

[spare cloud]

Cargo missions only exists in the form of small deliveries

[hollow sedge]

Yeah those @spare cloud

[south egret]

i've found some ore boxes, where can i sell those?

[vestal ravine]

Try the nearest TDD terminal...

[south egret]

i tried, didnt work there

same as mining outposts

[vestal ravine]

Is there a red shade around them? You might have to restack them on the cargo grid. But it could be a crap glitch.

[south egret]

nah, they are filled white

[spark star]

^ You prolly found them during salvage mission? They cant be sold. Bugged atm

[tall relic]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[opal hazel]

I kind of wish they'd have large/small pads with items that can only be loaded/unloaded if you're actually landed at a pad. You could end up with smaller ships moving items from small outposts to larger outposts/stations and big ships moving between larger outposts/stations. Right now it's kind of goofy and no real reason to trade in a small/med ship

[brittle orchid]

yea that's true

it would also make sense for them to add a loading time for cargo, obvs slower at small posts or for large ships, but i kinda hope they don't do that

gotta say im very impressed with the money I've made hauling, no exploits or anything

[plush dove]

how much did u make?

[brittle orchid]

ive made 2 mil this weekend from off and on trading

[plush dove]

._.

[brittle orchid]

?

[plush dove]

i almost got a million but lost it all

[brittle orchid]

rip lol

i almost lost 1.5

but 30k saved it

didnt think it did, but i double checked and it was all there

[leaden torrent]

How risky are the 10k salvage cargo runs?

[turbid blade]

Not really at all. You need to fuck around for half an hour before they even send a ship to the area, so you'll easily be out of there in no time

[leaden torrent]

Glad to hear it, I know the 150k's can have other folks show up and stuff. Guess I'll have to try some of the lessers

[turbid blade]

Yeah. The 10k salvage missions are currently best used as a way to gamble for their cargo, so kinda aren't great to do as a vulture

[rough ingot]

They're nerfing that

[turbid blade]

Well we know they are rebalancing them, but I've yet to see anyone confirm any statistics on it

It'll also be hard to gauge how much they've nerfed it if all they did is change the rarity

[rough ingot]

did they stealth hotfix nerf trade supply? my run has gotten a lot worse the past few days and i feel like it cant ALL just be these rented caterpillar andy's

[brittle orchid]

just lost 1.3mil because my engines just stopped working over lorville

dropped out of the sky with no way to stop it

[vestal ravine]

Sorry...darn bad situation.

[proud pumice]

@brittle orchid damn. I know that feeling. I've blown up my cargo more than once because the damned speed limiter decides to turn on by itself even when my hand is nowhere near the key. Some idiot decided to make it so it can't be permanently disabled and turns back on automatically each time you sit in the seat

[strong sable]

You talking about cruise control?

Check your settings if it's always on when you get in the pilot seat

[proud pumice]

No. Cruise you can just not set a button for and I've never had an issue.

I'm talking the speed limiter. I had to set a button on my hotas specifically for limiter because the damned thing turns back on everytime i enter/exit the seat. And it's turned on and smashed me into stuff numerous times.

[strong sable]

Wdym by that

Turns on

Are you talking about going from 0m/s to full speed?

[proud pumice]

You can turn it on or off. Mine has a tendency to actually engage the engines. This generally happens at a VERY bad time. This happens even though I have it set to a toggle switch that i can't hit without taking my hand off the throttle, specifically so it can't be hit accidentally

[strong sable]

So cruise control

[proud pumice]

If i could completely disable it permanently id have saved myself multiple destroyed ships

[strong sable]

The C key?

That you hit to go forward without having to hold W?

[proud pumice]

Not entirely sure. Limiter is the only one I have set to the hotas at all. Cruise isn't mapped at all.

Not saying i can't be wrong, I'm not at my PC to double check. But if it's ON i can't speed up past that point. But it will activate itself at full blast

I can turn it to on and not move even if i max icon to the top of the throttle.

[strong sable]

Ok, so the square around your speed indicator is the limiter, if it's full it's limited, if it's only the corners, it's not. If you get a line and an arrow pointing at the line, that's the cruise control that will keep you going forward at full speed if limiter is off, or at the limiter if it's on

[proud pumice]

Ok, it's definitely the limiter icon then

Bc i know if it's off and not going to randomly kill me when it's a broken square lol

[strong sable]

If you made your own control mappings, it's highly likely you double bound keys

[proud pumice]

I very well could have, but i swear that i purposely went in and blanked out both cruise and limiter. I specifically remember having to go back and remap limiter because it automatically turns on when sitting in the pilot seat and had to be turned off each time i want to fly

[strong sable]

Might also have to take a look in the general settings

There's an option to set/change almost all things in the cockpit when you sit in the pilot seat

Like start with gsafe on or off, coupled or decoupled and all that

[proud pumice]

I'll go through when i can and see if i can find a solution for it. Ty for the advice

[strong sable]

@proud pumice

Last one on the pic

[proud pumice]

Well son of a bitch. I missed it. THANK YOU

[strong sable]

Lol no problem

[tough apex]

how much is one box of maze?

[tawny path]

whats the best space trucking commodity right now?

[spare cloud]

Ask !tradetools ⬇️

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[brittle orchid]

it be like that. had like 500k in ship upgrades on me too because of the vehicle loadout bug, was gonna take them to lorville and spawn an owned ship there to fix it while hauling

my only other "bought" ship is a reclaimer so,,,

[proud pumice]

Did you uninstall then reinstall them before flying off?

[brittle orchid]

couldn't even access the menu to install them in the first place, so i was just taking them to my next stop

[proud pumice]

Damn. That sucks. If you're in that situation again, server hop till you can access. Don't even get off the bed, pull up the menu and if it doesn't work, relog

[brittle orchid]

gotcha, will do

my friend told me the workaround was to just spawn another non-loaner or non-rental ship, but I'll do that next time

[proud pumice]

His tip can work too.

I havent had quite as much luck with it, but it can work.

[brittle orchid]

luckily it's only 2 stops to get all the parts, and i still have 1.3 mil so i can hopefully work my money up once the economy stabilizes from all the cat free-fliers

honestly the best possible situation for a cargo loss, where i still have enough money to make max profit

and despite my losses I've still made a bit more than my friend grinding combat missions all weekend lolol

[strong sable]

@proud pumice did you manage to fix your limiter problems?

[rough ingot]

?

[brittle orchid]

honestly i do think it's the free fly cats

only an hour and a half more of them though :3

[rough ingot]

that includes u

[brittle orchid]

huh

i am not a free fly cat

i started using it during free fly bc i remember really enjoying it during a previous free fly, then i pledged it bc of the really good ccu chains

[jade shell]

where do i sell cargo boxes from salvage runs? i have a box thats a different color than the rest but wont sell at HUR L1

[rough ingot]

some cant be sold

19.1 will allow the new drug types to actually have a buyer, rn they dont

[jade shell]

ah ok, i just figured with the different color outline it may be worth something

[rough ingot]

depends on what it is

light green boxes are big hitters

[jade shell]

how do i see what it is

yes its light green i believe

[rough ingot]

go to a terminal and figure out which one it is by accessing your ships inv through it

weevil eggs are 112k and osoian hides are 220

[jade shell]

ok and if i have either of those where do i sell them?

[rough ingot]

salvage yards. Brios/orinth/one on wala i dont remember the name of and one on calliope

[jade shell]

nothing on hurston?

[rough ingot]

orinth

[jade shell]

ok

[nocturne python]

helium nerfed?

[jade shell]

how do i see whats in a container thats on my ship?

[sudden sedge]

Visit a commodity terminal or have somebody scan you and tell you

Those are the ways I know

[delicate girder]

Assuming that 30k protection is working for cargo protection, do you absolutely have to be in your ship when the 30k hits? What if you have a ship full of cargo and the 30k catches you while you're still running around the outpost? Anyone had that happen and recovered their cargo anyway?

[vestal ravine]

I am part of a team that is developing a Crate ID website. Need 2 weeks or so for release.

[silent minnow]

When did 3 scu storage crates get added?

[raven rampart]

With Helium gone, what's the play for cargo hauling atm? Back to Beryl?

[proud pumice]

@strong sable sorry, night shifter and was sleeping. But yes, i found the setting and got it turned off ty again

[strong sable]

Happy to help

[rough ingot]

me when i fill a c2 with drugs

[placid swift]

what ship is the C2?

that is absolutely huge.

[rough ingot]

the hercules

696scu

[placid swift]

beautiful ship.

[brittle orchid]

too smooth

cat superiority

[rough ingot]

"too good, i like this objectively worse thing"

yes

[brittle orchid]

i really hate how the c2 looks to be honest with u

tiny ass head smh

fair play if u like it

but its not for me

[rough ingot]

only thing not goated about the herc series is its insistency on faceplanting with every landing

[brittle orchid]

i dont deny its better

but like

i really, really prefer big chunky industrial ships over smooth ships like that

[rough ingot]

btw the payoff for a full c2 of slam/widow/altrucia was disappointing for the buy in

~6.4m buy in, 1.6 profit

i guess realistically a 25% profit is really good it just felt low for how insane the risk is

[placid swift]

I think tha's pretty good profit.

think about someone just starting, a titan or a cutter, the step is huge.

[rough ingot]

well duh, but we're not even in the same league

[placid swift]

i know, but what i'm saying is that we tend to lose perspective of what we have.

[rough ingot]

assuming theyve been playing for a little bit and have gotten up to 600k, my risk was 10x their total account

[brittle orchid]

how long did it take to fill it up?

[rough ingot]

like 2 hours

[brittle orchid]

christ

[hollow sedge]

Anybody tryna do cargo?

[jolly plover]

i just got a caterpillar the other day

ive been trying to do routes but every time i go for a commodity its out of stock or not true to what the sites say XD

[hollow sedge]

where in NT-999-XX do i buy drugs?

[rough ingot]

At the terminal?

[hollow sedge]

is the terminal in the bunker?

@rough ingot

[rough ingot]

my brother in chrsit you are at the wrong location

[hollow sedge]

omg

im at

nt999xxii

Anybody got cargo?

Near MT

[rough ingot]

weird question

[potent plaza]

are crates color coded if so what does a blue and white crate hold

[shadow tide]

for a single seater minimizing size and maximize cargo, does anything beat the nomad? not looking to bump up to freelancer max size nor am i looking at cutlass

also like the idea of a tractor beam

[vestal ravine]

There is a team developing a Crate ID chart for such questions.

[turbid blade]

Potentially a hull-a?

Biggest problema bout the Hull-A is while it is a better cargo mover than the nomad, it is entirely incapable of transporting vehicles

[grand pine]

free lancer max is what i was using before a c2 herc

[dreamy bridge]

Anyone know any good trade routes? Helium is dead and Beryl is too risky for it's at most ehh returns.

[stable dust]

Nomad will always remain a favourite of mine, but the Cutlass is great for that little bit extra in cargo and it zips around quickly too. For cargo it's a good step up but for combat I just couldn't get on with it due to the engine vulnerability. You're essentially doubling the cargo space going to a Cutty Black too so it's more profit. I upgraded mine to the Taurus which gives you nearly quadruple the cargo but yesterday gave in and went all the way to a C2 for my main cargo ship. The CCU chains available made sense to me

[stable dust]

What cargo space do you have available? Beryl has been a great money maker for me. I've tried the Laranite and Gold routes but the stock is too scarce and I don't have the patience to wait, it's better to be moving and earning instead of chancing stock availability. Drug running works well but still the issue of stock availability and that added risk of piracy, but that's what made me my first chunks of money, the Nuen Waste - Brios run on Daymar is quick and simple plus you can always fall back to Grim Hex as the sell point if you spot potential pirates at Brios.

[dreamy bridge]

I have a rented C2, so that's 696scu

Current balance is ~3,000,000, a little more

[stable dust]

That's what I'm running, the Beryl trade nets me approx 210-220K per run I think using the C2.

Plus with 30K protection back if anything happens the ship and cargo should in theory be stored back at your home planet.

I just think you need to be really patient or lucky to bag Laranite or Gold and other expensive commodities, Beryl is plentiful and restocks loads per minute.

[dreamy bridge]

The thing that scares me is glitchy landings. With the Helium trade, I wouldn't lose more than 70k if it happened, but with Beryl, that's half of my auec gone in a flash, not even my fault.

I need to make 2m within the next 2 hours

*4

4 hours

[stable dust]

Try that Beryl run, you're landing on a proper pad to buy and a proper port to sell so should be safe. I bought at Ita - Woodruff/Ryder and sold at Lorville, quick and easy

You should be able to do 1M per hour easily, only issue may be the demand at Lorville but it changes quickly so you may have to wait to sell a full C2 worth

[dreamy bridge]

Yeah but why does Lorville have to have such small ass pads tho?

Like it's hair raising trying to squeeze a C2 in there

[stable dust]

They're not that bad, if you level off the ship close to the hangar doors and go into third person you can just move it into the hangar no problems

Practice makes perfect

[dreamy bridge]

They're not difficult, they just scare me

I don't know why

I'm not a bad pilot

Usually at least

[stable dust]

Spend that extra minute landing properly and you get paid, just gotta be patient

Don't forget autoland if the ships a bit off before you land, it'll do it all for you

[hollow sedge]

whats your route?

[stable dust]

Ita > Woodruff or Ryder then Sell at Lorville

Really quick route

[hollow sedge]

cool thanks

ive just been going around crusader system for drugs, idk if its a good method

[stable dust]

Yeah Crusader is great for vice products

[vestal ravine]

I have a custom top down view of the C2 keyed in and the landings have never been easier. Try it someday.

[kindred gust]

Ah you are the guy buying all the drugs away 😂

[obtuse sierra]

y'all think there will be trading changes with hull c release? i'm hoping so since i imagine everything will be sold out since it carries as much as six c2s lol

[rough ingot]

Yes

[gloomy moon]

I read a few things about 30k protection with ships being sent back for your main residence if it happens but I lost 200k today on my second ever run. Did I maybe do something wrong? The ship was at my main hanger but empty

If anyone could share some trade routes that are fun that would be super appreciated. I was really hyped to get into this now I'm scared lol

Dms are open if anyone wants to be pen pals ❤️

[rough ingot]

you went back to your main city, retrieved, and it was empty?

you never hit claim for that ship on any terminals

[gloomy moon]

I crashed in a18 ship was sent back to new babbage. I went back there. Went to tdd and checked if it registered my ship. It was already waiting for me there but cargo hold was empty

Did I maybe need to pull it out of cargo and put it back in?

Still haven't claimed it. Went to bed in defeat lol

[rough ingot]

yes do exactly that, but go another step beyond and take it out, fly it around, qt away and back

then try again, if the boxes are physically inside the cargo area the terminal should recognize them after

ive dealt with the same thing

[gloomy moon]

Ok so there is a chance I still have them. So drag my self back to babbage, take it out and check if it has cargo. If I see nothing do I move on or could the cargo be invisible until I fly about a bit?

Thank you btw, this hope feels lovely lol

[rough ingot]

99% odds the cargo will be in the hold when you open it and check

if not tho yeah its doomed

also, yw

[gloomy moon]

Ok I'll try that tomorrow. I loved renting the Caterpillar so I'm glad there is hope for me as a hauler yet lol

Any pointers on general planets I should orbit/goods to look for? I tried using cs tools but no shop had helium and that seemed pretty worth while

[rough ingot]

rented caterpillar

has the rental expired

[spare cloud]

I assume it didn't since they said they'll try tomorrow

[rough ingot]

it could tomorrow tho

[spare cloud]

But it could be an issue. Rentals don't magically disappear when time ends while you're flying it but it stops appearing on trading terminals

[rough ingot]

she said the ship is showing on the terminal its just the hold is empty

so its not recognizing it

or its actually deleted but unlikely

[gloomy moon]

I should have rental for another 14h and I can make the time when I wake up

[rough ingot]

ok

if you let it expire all the stuff is gone with it

[gloomy moon]

I'll keep my fingers crossed and travel across the galaxy back to babbage to check tomorrow. I got hope lol

I'm sure time wont be the issue atleast

[obtuse sierra]

hull c will probably have a price hike once it releases right? carries more than zix C2s but costs $50 less when it was last for sale

[rough ingot]

yes

[obtuse sierra]

he's back to yes my question again 😭

[rough ingot]

do you need more than that? yes there will probably be cargo changes in 3.20 and yes the hull c will probably go up in price

[obtuse sierra]

no i don't i'm just messing around lol

[rough ingot]

[obtuse sierra]

straight to the point

think they're going to have to rework station trade since all the good trade routes are interplanetary, and that thing looks like it could only do interstationary trade

[raw helm]

I have been thinking we have these Cargo stations and we have an entire world of space faring people... why would they limit main trade to planet side?

It makes sense in the future that people at space stations would be conducting the bulk of the trade, and only ship to the planet what they want to buy down their for their own consumption.

[obtuse sierra]

i mean it makes sense for there to be all the shipping from these production settlments to hub cities, but i think what's needed is more long distance, limited location supplies. like if arc corp didnt produce agriculture supplies but orison did, and arc corp needed it brought from there. like a revamp of the commodities price list

also pretend example. i don't think orison does much farming..

mining update was a step in the right direction so that stuff other than just laranite is worth trading

[hollow sedge]

Probably lol, I went to bed though so all uours

[vital juniper]

What are some popular routes rn?

So I can know what ones to avoid

[peak lion]

I think everyone still uses the trade website so just look at the "popular" routes on there

SLAM is always out for instance

[vital juniper]

I think it's calming down now though

Because of invictus ending

[peak lion]

That could be true

I feel as though cargo running might be the most niche outside of freeflight

Or maybe Salvage since there's only one ship for purchase rn

[vital juniper]

Freeflight?

Oh wait I see

[vital juniper]

Two

Well

One in game

I see what you mean

[peak lion]

The whale is purchase able for aUEC but the solo ship is Pledge Only until 3.2 I think

[half jay]

when does 3.19.1 go to PU?

[gloomy moon]

for anyone that has this or cares, i got all the stuff back. just had to actually bring her back out

[cold gorge]

is there no where to sell stolen cargo ores (gold, aluminum, etc)? I have been to grim hex admin, TDD, CRUL5 no questions asked, even Nuen Waste Management. Is there anywhere this stuff can sell?

[meager dust]

I'm a huge newbie myself but I was just attended to https://sc-trade.tools/ where you can find places to sell specific loot

[cold gorge]

thanks but that's why I went to those other places to begin with

[meager dust]

I had been trying to find a place to sell my weird 'Other' loot too

oh

[cold gorge]

I even made sure that I was checkibng stolen cargo

I guess the site is not perfect

[meager dust]

If there exists a better way to sell, I too would like to know in any case

I have an inventory cluttered full of 'Other' stuff that I need to get rid of.

actually, yeah you're right. I went to Area 18 TDD and according to this site I should be able to sell my degnous root there, but I couldn't.

but if they are really worth 13K a piece as the website claims then that would make me pretty happy.. though I kind of doubt it

[cold gorge]

Worth nothing if nobody wants it

I don't understand that. Metal is metal. Gold is gold. It's fungible, and even stolen it has value to someone. Makes zero sense that we can't sell it anywhere in a star system with 4 inhabited planetary systems

[meager dust]

It would be nice if you could sell anywhere, but the prices would vary. Then traders could seek out best profits and casual players can just sell

[spark star]

The stolen cargo ores are atm bugged. It's fixed in the 3.19.1 patch

[gentle flint]

if the mining outpost is out of laranite, what should i buy instead?

[mossy palm]

Agricium or beryl.

[vestal ravine]

The fungus roots and like the weevil eggs sell at an Admin Station. Did you try that?

[vestal ravine]

#918162393547300894 message

[vestal ravine]

The link above takes you to a crate chart guide.

[visual berry]

anyone know what the "bonuses" are for the supply re-up mission?

[obtuse sierra]

any tips on what to do if your ship still has plenty of boxes but they aren't showing up on the trade terminal? terminal shows all the box spaces as empty

[rough ingot]

did you get hit by a 30k

[obtuse sierra]

no, just not showing up on sell terminals despite i know that they buy the product here

[rough ingot]

Not sure then, maybe retrieve and store again

[obtuse sierra]

that's kinda what started the whole ordeal. i stored my ship, it showed it was stored and had the retrieve button, but it was still in hangar 5 :/

server hopped after that

[rough ingot]

Uh oh

You might find the asop telling you unknown then and if it does gg

[obtuse sierra]

seems more and more like the only viable way to make money is bounties since its the only one that gives direct money. that and bunkers i guess

self destructed someone else's c2 at JT out of frustration

[rough ingot]

[obtuse sierra]

ah yea, we empty now

[rough ingot]

[proper furnace]

what's the favorite cargo run right now, still Helium to Area 18?

[obtuse sierra]

my fav has been ita to loriville beryle

beryl

[hallow lark]

Can a reclaimer store a mpuv cargo?

[plucky gyro]

Updated! Your channel’s name is now Cargo Running.

Updated! Your channel’s user limit is now 4.

[vestal ravine]

Test

[proper furnace]

Thanks @stable dust, raked in ~1,500,000 aUEC tonight with this run. Out of curiosity, how do you find these great runs? I've checked a lot of trade tools, they all seem super outdated.

[stable dust]

Someone posted in here saying he’s trading Beryl round Hurston so I used SC Trade Tools and that’s what it suggested. First 5 runs were great and then I lost around 1.6M due to bugged cargo during ILW, seems to work fine now and I’ve bought a C2 to do this run for future releases, the Laranite and Gold runs are better but I haven’t got the patience to wait for stock, this is a solid earner.

[long mural]

hey guys. does the helium to a18 route still work now?

[vestal ravine]

I read something that Helium is a ILW trade item only.

[visual berry]

lookking to give trading a shot, it there a way to check stock without flying halfway across the galaxy and landing to have a look?

[mossy palm]

AFAIK no, unless you team up with other traders.

[visual berry]

😦

[vestal ravine]

You will need to rely a lot on your backfill items so that if say Laranite gives 20 to 40 scu then you top off with Titanium any amount you want. Do not backfill with low profit items. There are like 5 or 6 backfill trade goods.

[brittle orchid]

idk why people wait for hours to fill up with lara n stuff

feels like the ita > lorville beryl run is the best anyone has been able to pin down

unfortunately that means lore I'll is gonna start running out of space for beryl real dang fast

[proper furnace]

Probably too late but I can confirm Helium is no longer available at Humbolt Mines.

I checked last night

[proper furnace]

I love the profits, just not the risk. Fortunately I haven't had any mishaps but with each trip, I consider the odds and the thought of losing 1.6M of cargo is terrifying. I'll check out Laranite and Gold, thanks for the tip.

[hollow sedge]

Why did the remove Helium from Humboldt!?

[tulip wave]

event only

[lavish night]

Hi guys, i'm new to cargo trading and I have a (beginner) question about it. Can I ask it here or is there a better place ?

[spare cloud]

You can ask in here and #helpdesk too 👍

[lavish night]

Thanks ! Here I go :
I tried to get into the crago trading by myself. The UEX website told me to buy "souvenirs" at point A and sold it at New Babbage MTPS for a 25k profit.
When I arrived at NB MTPS, I wasn't able to sell the cargo because there was "no demand".

• Is it possible to know the current demand before buying the cargo ? If yes, how ?
• How do I know when the demand will be back ? (therefore, when will I be able to sell my cargo)
• How does the "demand" thing is working ? Who is creating the demand ? (am this question clear ?)

That's 3 questions actually 😄

To add more informations : I came back once every 30min to the admin console for 3 or 4h : still "no demand" 😦

[spare cloud]

Yes, check yourself at the place you plan to sell 🤷
You don't.
Basically the demand/offer is shared on all servers. So if someone on an other server buys before you, the offer on your server changes as well. It used to reset every 10-15 minutes but idk if it still works like this.

[strong sable]

The fact supply/demand is SHARED between servers is so stupid

[spare cloud]

No, haulers would spend their time server hopping to somewhere ppl aren't trading.

Trading is stupid the way it is anyway.

[strong sable]

I dont see what the problem is with that

[spare cloud]

#industrial-professions message

[vestal ravine]

Patch just dropped, may help our 30k issues and others!!

[tidal gyro]

what's a good route to get into?

[vestal ravine]

Just looked at CPA's in the game and Helium and AV equipment are listed...

[vestal ravine]

Look up the places that sell Laranite and Beryl and put together a route you like. Hundreeds of options really.

[lavish night]

what's CPA ?

[vestal ravine]

The above from Ryukira of Frontier Consolidated..

[vestal ravine]

Commodity Price Alerts...

[proper furnace]

@lavish night @visual berry I'm new to trading in SC as well, I have three websites bookmarked: SC Trade Tools, Galactic Logistics and UEXCorp. All of them seem to be out of date, I used all three websites to put together trade routes and less than half of the information was accurate making my route no bueno. I plan to start paying more attention to the Commodity Price Alerts, looks like that system could use some serious refinement. It seems odd to me that we can't look up stock/prices from locations without actually traveling there. So far the best resource I've found is asking here, "what's the best trade right now?" I ran a few loads of Beryl from the moon Ita to Lorville on Hurston last night and made some decent bank but it was very risky, 1.6M to buy for C2. One lost load and I would have been set back 6-7 loads. I managed to successfully run 6 loads, I think I'll quit while I'm ahead.

[vestal ravine]

I like it because there is this crazy risk of losing your money. Lately there has been a reworking of the trade items. But even more risky are the Vice items lol. I do other activities to but trading is mellow with risk added.

[lavish night]

It looks like we learned the same way. Except that I didn't knew about CPA.
What do you mean by "very risky" ? Is it risky because you can be attacked (player ? NPC ?) or risky because of bugs/30K ?
Moreover, can you run the same trade route over and over or does the price change too often (and therefore you have to find another route) ?

Sorry, I am REALLY new to it 😄

btw I am using a MSR for cargo

[proper furnace]

Risky because it's SC and shit happens. I'm not all that worried about players, I haven't seen much pirating this patch and NPCs are easy enough to avoid. 30K is scary, randomly dying or ship exploding is what keeps me up at night. Prices do change as demand changes however it's such a minor adjustment that you can run the same route for a week without too much worry price-wise. Good choice on the MSR, awesome ship. I got player pirated with 400K of refined quantanium in my Freelancer MAX a couple years ago, I decided to join the pirates for ~6 months to learn their ways. Whenever they would interdict an MSR they'd say, "let him go, he's probably going to outrun us before we can disable him".. I immediately bought an MSR for myself. I'm only using the C2 for volume, if I get player interdicted there's probably only one outcome and it's going to come down to negotiations.

[vestal ravine]

I can chime in a bit more if okay with you. For one thing I missed the last 2 weeks of play but understand there were issues with 30K protection and that has been one saving grace with trading after you buy the goods but cannot sell them for various reasons. So I hope today's patch can clear that up. The other more normal risk is getting jumped by pirates even though that also is a bit rare. But you should always take certain precautions to make it harder on the pirates if they target you. The CPA's are mainly focused on Medical Supplies. Generally you buy at the Overstocked sites and fly around for the alert on a Understocked site to sell. Most traders don't mess with that. Speaking of trade missions Frontier Consolidated O/R/G had one internally that may be a model for ones offered by CIG. I did them twice about 8 months ago. It was trade items to build like 100 mining heads. So there is a parts list of about 10 items you have to get for a 150K payout. As you sell each set of items you take a screenshot of the sell. You still have to use your own money and thus earn off each sale. But I am not sure they still do this.

[hollow sedge]

Do we know the patch is coming today?

[vestal ravine]

2 hours ago I downloaded it...

[clever hamlet]

So you cant have people on board the cargo hauler when you buy/sell?

are you talking about PU or PTU patch

[rough ingot]

Huh? There's no patch notes

[rough ingot]

You cannot, dead bodies count so make sure to remove them

Same applies to bedlogging

[vestal ravine]

I didn't check but think this is a mini patch. They stole an in game Retailator from me but everything else kosher. EDIT: If you buy an in game ship "soon" be sure to retrieve it, call it to the pad then re-store at a minimum so that it's registered in PES. In my case I had bought it but never used because I went on vacation.

[rough ingot]

What does your launcher say

[vestal ravine]

3.19.0 same as before...

[oak summit]

So I went to Baijini point with drugs and I can't sell them. It let me yesterday

It's Maze

[vestal ravine]

Bought by
Shop Price Inventory
Samson & Son's Salvage Center
Stanton > ArcCorp > Wala
¤90,000 UEC Max 250 SCU + 16/min
"No Questions Asked" Trading Console
Stanton > CRU L4 > CRU-L4 Shallow Fields Station
¤90,000 UEC Max 50 SCU + 20/min
"No Questions Asked" Trading Console
Stanton > CRU L5 > CRU-L5 Beautiful Glen Station
¤90,000 UEC Max 5 SCU + <1/min
Brio's Breaker Yard
Stanton > Crusader > Daymar
¤90,000 UEC Max 250 SCU + 16/min
Admin
Stanton > Crusader > Yela > Grim HEX
¤90,000 UEC Max 250 SCU + 16/min
Reclamation & Disposal Orinth
Stanton > Hurston
¤90,000 UEC Max 250 SCU + 16/min
Devlin Scrap & Salvage
Stanton > microTech > Euterpe
¤90,000 UEC Max 250 SCU + 16/min

Use at own risk...

[oak summit]

Thanks. I stored my ship there and retrieved it now my drugs are physically gone. That normal?

[oak summit]

where did u get this from

[opal hazel]

What's the largest cargo ship you can rent now, still andromeda or did it change ?

[rough ingot]

nope you lost em

i did same thing yesterday

dont store with maze

bad idea

[mild shard]

are there any acurate sites for trade running right now? I know uex is still getting sorted out and they are still behind, and I've never trusted sc trade tools since they've always had inacurate info

also, don't store your cargo ship at orison, it will delete your cargo still

I stored a c2 there and it got marked as destroyed

[oak summit]

I just sold drugs at Brio's Breaker Yard

Maze

[mild shard]

I just want to look at a list and randomly choose a route to go on. keeps the would be theives at bay

I gues I'll have to go around and make my own list lol

[vestal ravine]

Google sc trade tools...then there's Gallog and uexcorp

[steady siren]

Best trading route rn? Humboldt dosent have helium

[opal hazel]

Is the Andromeda still the largest rentable ship ?

[jolly plover]

she a beaut

[cinder hamlet]

So the crates you get from the drug dispenser. Where do you sell those? Is that also at a No questions asked terminal? And do you just put them on the cargo grid as normal?

[subtle cradle]

I think piracy is less frequent since either asops aren't working or because it just feels wrong to rob people trying to make money in this brutally buggy patch.

MSR would be the dream ship for me to catch solo in my mantis. It holds alot of SCU, is slower than the mantis and Mantis could pretty easily solo it 1vs1.

Pirates don't negotiate much after physicalizes cargo got added. It's simply safer to soft death the ship, kill the pilot and steal the boxes.
That way the victim has less time to self destruct

[vestal ravine]

Are they from the Jumptown event? If not I would try a salvage yard or Grim Hex...

[wise portal]

Hey has anyone seen this issue? I have a full C2 but at any terminal at any station I cant see the cargo

I can see the cargo in the ship

[rough ingot]

did you get a 30k

[wise portal]

no

[sage basin]

Are there any websites that will let me autoroute my deliveries if i feed it locations for pickup/dropoff. Been getting bigger ones recently and want a faster way of plotting them out

[steady siren]

Is there a better way to trade? Even non drug stuff like laranite isn’t in stock

[steady siren]

What route did you do that allowed you to fill a c2? I can’t even fill my cutlass

[spark star]

^ Multiple locations. Spend bout 30-40mins filling it up at diffrent sites and then sell to a tdd

[vestal ravine]

I got a 330K load that did not store properly. The server was dying. The TDD said I had 5 Oza's. Gave it all night no changes excepet to claim from an unknown location.

[twin glen]

For how much

[severe marten]

Where is a good place to sell ship weapons?

[covert sun]

Hey, how do you guys find easy trade routes? Can I just go to any moon outpost, buy some metals and sell in any major city for example? Or would I be risking a loss then?

[rough ingot]

what? you are always risking a loss doing cargo

[covert sun]

I mean if I buy/sell if I risk buying for more than I'd be selling for

Or if there's any specific commodity that is always guaranteed to make some profit

[rough ingot]

nothing sells for a 100% profit you are always risking more than you gain from any single run

[covert sun]

I think you're misunderstanding me. I want anything >0% profit

[rough ingot]

so everything

[covert sun]

And I'm wondering how picky I have to be with what I buy

[rough ingot]

everything turns at least some profit but i cant tell you what margin makes it worth it to you

the general high volume shit people do is like beryl, aluminum, titanium, and apparently helium

[covert sun]

Ok, so plenty of options then. And I assume most people buy at moons and sell at major cities?

[rough ingot]

if you only have low volume drugs are the only thing not complete shit when compared to any other gameplay loop

thats correct

[covert sun]

Ok awesome, I'll give it a shot then. Thanks for the info!

[rough ingot]

sure, general rule of thumb is things that are plentiful in one territory will sell for more in another

ie: theres a ton of beryl at MT, crusader pays the most for it

[loud spade]

What's the risk of transporting something like WiDoW

[scarlet rover]

you can get scanned by security and confiscated/fined

[rough ingot]

that is such a nonexsitent risk lmfao. drugs are the most risky way to make money in the game bc of other players

[loud spade]

Anyone else lose their entire bank account worth of cargo because the ship blew up while walking to it in a hanger then getting slapped with a 30K?

[vestal ravine]

Technically you're not supposed to invest more than 51% of your cash account into trading.

[versed whale]

is there a good cargo route within the crusader system?

[spare cloud]

The one you make yourself !tradetools ⬇️

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[maiden shuttle]

tbh SC Trade Tools isnt that accurate imo

none of them are xD

[hardy trail]

Outside of PO, it's been reliable from what I've seen. Specifically to check commodity prices

There's been a couple discrepancies with filler cargo prices

[peak pulsar]

UEX is at least updated manually.

[tawny scroll]

where is a good place to sell a C2 full of titanium

[vestal ravine]

The closest TDD terminal...but there might be some distance bonuses.

[tawny scroll]

i went to the admin place on lorvile and they wouldent buy it

[vestal ravine]

Go to the TDD area

[tawny scroll]

where is that tho im new to trading sorry

huh

[vestal ravine]

Look for the train to the central business district

[tawny scroll]

there all the same there so confusing but i will

[vestal ravine]

I know lol

[tawny scroll]

got it know where do i sellscrap

[slender cedar]

actual "scrap" or the scu container from salvaging?

[lucid void]

Just got my new hercules and I'm outta money cuz of 3.18 update, anyone got about 100k?

[spare cloud]

Any form of begging is strictly forbidden on this discord

Please

[night quartz]

ive been playing for lilke an hour and theres been no delivery contracts the whole time

do I have to do something?>

[spare cloud]

This type of contract only show up when inside a planetary system, not around Lagrange points

If you're not having any, have someone share and complete one with you.

[night quartz]

ah interesting ok

[hardy trail]

so... what do yall listen to when space truckin? dunno why i've been doing gregorian choir when in flight...

[frail rain]

So I lost 1.6 mill due to the hanger desync.. in theory if I fly to restricted area in lorville and get impounded my cargo should be there and able to sell? Then I avoid the hanger doors?

[hardy trail]

yes

just gotta pay the 2k impound fee, but insta stores ships, i do that often with larger runs

[frail rain]

Nice

[vestal ravine]

Find that surface garage entrance and use that option.

[hardy trail]

??? enlighten because i hate landing at lorville

[frail rain]

what area is off limits now do you know? like any landmark i can fly too

[hardy trail]

i always fly real close to the tower with all the red lights on it

[frail rain]

found a c2 with 1.6 beryl but abandoned no owner

if i transfer it on to my ship can i sell at tdd or will i have to got to nqa?

[hardy trail]

sounds like a 30k

just transfer everything to your ship

[frail rain]

is it considered stolen?

[hardy trail]

don't think so

loose cargo is loose cargo

salvage missions with cargo doesn't count as stolen

but also no player assigned to the ship so

[tawdry siren]

audiobooks - always audiobooks - I always do same thing on long travel - this is why i do like to travel 🙂

[hardy trail]

that's a good idea, forgot about those

[tawdry siren]

Only subsription service i do love 🙂

[frail rain]

can you pay off cs3

[hardy trail]

no

[tawdry siren]

only with time or hacking 🙂

[hardy trail]

only 1 and 2

[frail rain]

got cs2 trying to ram open the ramp lol

mannn

[hardy trail]

bruh

[frail rain]

700 beryl scu worth it

[tawdry siren]

it is only 50+ minutes, so.... 🙂

[frail rain]

gonna pay off then come back and ram the ramp till it opens lol

[hardy trail]

lol what ramp??

[rough ingot]

why would you ram it

[hardy trail]

for the c2?

[frail rain]

theres an abandoned c2 with 700 scu beryl at mining ooutpost

[hardy trail]

shoot it open

[frail rain]

im trying to get the ramp open

its arma zone

i cant shoot

weapons locked

[hardy trail]

you wont' be able to transfer anyway then

[rough ingot]

ok great but ramming counts as breaking armistice so wha are you paying off the crime for

[tawdry siren]

so you can move cargo 🙂

[frail rain]

why not?

i can transfer it into my c2

[tawdry siren]

*cant

[rough ingot]

^

[hardy trail]

tractor beam won't work in armistice except by "glitch" sometimes on the pads

[frail rain]

bruhs

i get the ramp open

then take the c2

move cargo in space

i just need to get inside

[hardy trail]

shoot from outside armistice

[frail rain]

will that work? maybe worth a try.

[rough ingot]

BROTHER IM NOT FOCUSED ON THAT WHAT IS THE POINT OF GETTING RID OF CS IF YOURE JUST GOING TO GET IT RIGHT BACK

[hardy trail]

^^^lmfao

[frail rain]

cause i can pay off cs2

[tawdry siren]

🙂

[frail rain]

come back

and ram it till it sopen

pay it off

[hardy trail]

ohhhh

ok

i see the order you're doing it in

[frail rain]

didnt know if i should keep going to cs3

[hardy trail]

wait, how much have you been ramming it?

[frail rain]

since yall said css3 cant pay off ill just pay off my cs2

i hit it 3 or 4 times

[hardy trail]

cuz it shouldn't take much

i'd also just take a sniper from outside range

[rough ingot]

thats not entirely accurate. cs3 can be paid off if its an accumulation of petty crimes

charges like homicide, which net cs3, cannot

[frail rain]

statioin wont shoot onsite?

[rough ingot]

it will

[hardy trail]

i paid 100k at grimmy with cs3, left grimmy, still had cs3, but no fines

[rough ingot]

theres grim

hm

[hardy trail]

i just feel; like something bad is going to happen to you dealin with this lol

[rough ingot]

waiting like 5 minutes for this bastard ship to store dont you fucking destroy my ship on me

finally, only took over 5mins

[tawdry siren]

i do wonder - how it counting "AVG" based on this 🙂

220 now and still going 🙂 i do not think i will play today 😦

244 - and it reversed - when second timer reached 120 i did left

[rough ingot]

ah nice i do a full load and it deletes over half

[tawdry siren]

it is why i did paste my post 🙂 If it reverse you items it will do on cargo too 🙂

[rough ingot]

what

[tawdry siren]

press ` and write "r_displayinfo 1" - use i and put something on (or change) on left of your screen you will see same timer as mine

check it

[rough ingot]

why

[tawdry siren]

i did hoop servers - do you see any change? 🙂

(check "last:)

[rough ingot]

what does it have to do with what happened to me man

[tawdry siren]

i put clothes on me to check - you put cargo on ship - we both get reverse - i lose 20 sec, you do half of cargo 🙂

[rough ingot]

????

[trim geyser]

Is there a way to check if a location will buy my goods, and for what price before I use the terminal? Or is it something you get a feel for with experience?

[hardy trail]

Journal Entries Commodity Price alerts

[tawdry siren]

check your spam

[trim geyser]

As in my messages or is than an in game tool?

[tawdry siren]

F1 -> Journal -> Entries Commodity Price alerts

[trim geyser]

Sick ill check it out later than TY

[vivid obsidian]

Hey any recommendations for trade between orison and loriville /new babbage?

Just got a c2 and neeed to make some cash

[vestal ravine]

Look at the 5 sites that have Beryl and use that info to set up a trade route.

[vivid obsidian]

Beryl? Thanks!

[vestal ravine]

Here's the deal. The surface entrance is on one of the Perimeter lines at Lorville. But I could not find it in the dark with the ship. So I am getting my alt character at the door and use that as a marker. Once I get the place locked down will develop a access guide to it. Please advise if you want to join me. Bye for now.

[dapper mesa]

Anyone know why c2 would suddenly stop showing having a cargo grid in buy screens?

[vivid obsidian]

Pretty sure cargo missions are slightly bugged. When they work they work. When they don't...welll...

[vestal ravine]

Try to buy 2 or 3 and check ship see what happens.

[dapper mesa]

It wouldn't even let me select commodities to buy, solid red

[wet silo]

what are some good starter trading routes ? and what should i buy there

[vestal ravine]

Try another site or reclaim ship.

[vestal ravine]

What ship you have?

[wet silo]

i got a taurus, currently buying gold on daymar and gonna sell at a18 tdd, hows that ?

servers are really empty right now

[vestal ravine]

Gold can be used as a backfill but try to start with a high grade item like Beryl, Agricium or other top 7.

[wet silo]

got 47scu of beryl because there wasnt alot of gold

and how long does it usually take for stock to refill

[vestal ravine]

Then buy Titanium as backfill or fly around to other sites or store try again tomorrow.

[wet silo]

can i sell diamonds at a18 TDD ?

[vestal ravine]

Yes...

[vivid obsidian]

So if the game breaks while im qting with an entire c2 full...do i lose everything? Because if so i really only have 1k to my name because this fucking game likes to dc

[rough ingot]

elaborate on what happened

[vivid obsidian]

I was on a quantum jump from new babbage to orison to deliver a (mostly full) ship or beryl. Game dc-ed a little under halfway there.

And as im super new i was extremely stupid and put literally all my money into that run.

I thought it would be fine..the game had been running well save for the global chat bs.

[rough ingot]

when you say game dc'd

did you disconnect

or did the server crash

aka 30k error

if YOU disconnected, then joined a new server its gone

if the server crashed, your ship will be moved to your home location, as is

[quaint mango]

is orison still blowing up cargo ships?

last few times i went there it decided i shouldnt exist when i was trying to land

[rough ingot]

if atc doesnt acknowledge 'landing complete' and you despawn your ship in that hangar it will become unknown

but i did have it happen today where i did everything right and stored my c2, took a century to store and when it finally did over half my beryl was deleted

[quaint mango]

oh it didnt even let me land, i went through the hangar doors and exploded. i was going slow as hell and didnt touch anything

[rough ingot]

probably invis debris

[quaint mango]

pretty much just RNG if one survives the landing or not then lol

[vestal ravine]

My C2 at Orison would not finish storing and I had to log off. They traded 332,000.00 in cargo for 5 Oza's. Fuckheads.

[cinder hamlet]

Every time I take the Connie there it blows up

[quaint mango]

🥲

[vivid obsidian]

Do you store your c2 before going to the tdd to sell?

I have a little beryl but it's not showing up when i try and sell it

Tdd can see my c2. But nothing shows up when i click it

Nope...nvm storing it destroyed it...

Literally how do i even progress in this game with everything working against me

[vestal ravine]

Yes I stored it at Orison but it did not complete the process. I would say avoid Orison until the 3.19.1 patch drops then if you have to go back there test it with a smaller load(s) Usually Orison works very well for me. I have just completed a survey of the surface or garage dock/building at Lorville. There are no crazy winds there and most people don't go there. It's on the Perimeter Line that goes to Gate 6. There is a white strobe at the top and is 15KM from the terminals. More details later.

[vivid obsidian]

Heading to loriville with a significantly smaller load now. Gonna at least give it a shot

[vestal ravine]

You going to gate 6?

[vivid obsidian]

No idea. Just got to the mining facility for a pickup. Of 10k worth of beryl... lol

Then ill be heading to loriville. Why?

[vestal ravine]

Well you should be okay landing at the main spaceport, it's a bit tricky. Just wondering if you were going for the surface entrance that's all.

[vivid obsidian]

Nah. Main hangars

[vestal ravine]

Lorville surface entrance quick take: I did all this testing with my alt account but half the sceenshots didn't take. Anyway you're looking for the Perimeter Line and Gate 6. More later...

[vivid obsidian]

Where do you sell cargo at loriville?

[trim geyser]

is there any incentive to cargo running in a small group as opposed to solo other than security? The server shares commoditys correct? Also can other people in the group purchase and sell from my ship or is cargo exclusive to the ships owner?

[vivid obsidian]

Nvm found it.

[cinder hamlet]

Last I heard only you can sell your own cargo

And I’m not sure you can buy with people on your ship

[trim geyser]

cool thanks for the response

[vivid obsidian]

Is there any better cargo runs than beryl SMO-10>Loriville?

[vivid obsidian]

Or, better runs for the c2 that is

[novel dawn]

Hi, any idea how much Hull C will cost after release in 3.20?

[spare cloud]

Can't tell. Any price we can give you is pure speculation

[novel dawn]

i don't mind speculations 🙂

[celest flax]

its initial concept was 200, id say 350-400

[novel dawn]

its already 350

[celest flax]

so yeah, 350-400, it might rise slightly but not too much or they will take massive backlash

[novel dawn]

👍 thanks for your opinion

[celest flax]

limited use at the moment due to needing a docking collar tbh

and its sheer capacity will ruin the economy

[novel dawn]

it probably will dock, the real problem is there is nothing to buy at stations atm

i hope cig will rebalance commodity distribution in 3.20 too

[celest flax]

my point exactly, the most profitable resorces are ground based... making the hull C kinda pointless. its a system to system hauler really, designed for much larger economies

we lack the resources and economy to properly support something that size right now

[novel dawn]

probably will be useless for some time (as Reclaimer was) until Pyro

[celest flax]

agreed

[novel dawn]

i hope they will leave C2 as a loaner until it will be useful

[celest flax]

unlikely. if you own the ship and its flyable, you'll be granted said ship and the loaner will be taken away from you

[novel dawn]

there was some exceptions in the past

[celest flax]

was there?

didnt know that

i had a useless reclaimer for years sitting in my hangar lol

[novel dawn]

yeah, it wasn't. never mind. lol

[hollow lotus]

Anyone have success with gun rack on their Cat? When I do the repair I pay they cost of my rifle but it dosent spawn back for me in the rack

[tribal imp]

I think the Hull C will be like a temporary storage for your cargo, you don't buy cargo on land with the Hull C. You use other ships for that then transfer it to the Hull C using cargo decks. Once the Hull C is loaded, you ship to other systems with higher price then dock to a station with a cargo deck, then transfer to another ship like the Herc to sell the cargo.

then maybe there will be kiosks in the cargo decks much like the refinery kiosks where you can set work orders for transferring cargo in/out of the Hull C.

[hollow sedge]

Anyone have ERT unlock? I’ll pay handsomely (5 mil)

[novel dawn]

That would be nice. I hope Cargo decks will finally find any usage

[livid siren]

guns are tossed around in section 1 on claim, rack is bugged

[tawny lodge]

Is cargo hauling viable w a cutlass black?

[sour cairn]

yes

[rough ingot]

not legal

[delicate girder]

Someone said the other day that there's a contract you can take which puts a marker on Jumptown on Yela. If so, what contract would that be? I'm not good at locating Jumptown yet and still need a bit of help.

[hollow sedge]

Anyone have ERT unlock? I’ll pay handsomely (5 mil)

[delicate girder]

I can help with the ERT unlock.

Is that your name in game?

[peak oasis]

Anybody know good drug running routes? I am using a Corsair

[rough ingot]

just visit all the places there is no 'good route'

because the quantity is always low

[peak oasis]

and where would be the best place to sell?

[rough ingot]

whichever one is closest

[peak oasis]

so the selling price is always higher?

i dont believe that

[rough ingot]

?

why are you asking questions if youre not going to listen to the answer

all drug sell points pay the same

[peak oasis]

but some places sell the same stuff

[rough ingot]

dont sell to a drug den that also happens to want neon or something

sell at the salvage yards

[peak oasis]

k

[vestal ravine]

There was or is a maintenance mission for a vice or drug lab. This will be a Jumptown site with a marker.

[south berry]

can i actually use drake mule to move 1scu boxes? in reclaimer for example

[vivid obsidian]

How should i upgrade my c2 for better travel? Or is that question better posed somewhere else?

[rough ingot]

Ts2 drive

[vivid obsidian]

Thank you!

Whats the best trade to take from orison to new babbage?

[fair robin]

If I have Quartz, Tungsten and Iron. Where would I go to sell those? I've tried the TDD at NBB, Brio's Breaker Yard and Port Olisar and It's all locked. (I'm aware it's under the "Cannot sell" catagory)

[vestal ravine]

You have to go to one of the local moons and buy stuff then to nbis

[vestal ravine]

Are these refined mining ores or crated stuff?

[fair robin]

Crated stuff from Salvage Cargo

[vestal ravine]

Did anyone help you?

[fair robin]

I did it Solo

[vestal ravine]

Since you only have 3 restack them to grid store ship and try again at a tdd.

Select each item also when trying to sell

[fair robin]

Ok Ill do that then try. Thank you!

[vestal ravine]

Let us know what happens if you can

[fair robin]

I've re-stacked em now, headed to a TDD now

[fair robin]

Was able to sell Quartz and Tungsten at the Hurston TDD. Iron still cannot sell. So It's location dependant?

I'm new to the game and to Cargo/Salvage Cardo and Trading

[hollow sedge]

anyone US servers?

[night vale]

i havent really been keeping up with news so I apologize but is there anything coming in 3.20 that will make the hull c viable

[vestal ravine]

https://uexcorp.space/commodities:IRON

Rogue: It's pretty tricky learning what item gets sold at what place. You need to look over the main trade sites on Google search at the above for Iron, then Trade Tools and Gallog. There's Trade items, Commodities, Vices and Harvestables. We can help you but study these sites along the way.

[delicate girder]

It's all guesses at this point, but I'm guessing there will be some very low profit commodities in huge quantities which will be kind of Taylor made for the Hull C.

Alternately or in addition, CIG may choose make special huge bulk trading contracts which have built-in danger/costs.

[vestal ravine]

Yea, survive a guantlet of Retaliators and get a 100K bonus.

[fair robin]

I greatly appreciate you sharing this. I really enjoy the Cargo runs whether salvage or just running medicine. This will help a lot!

[night vale]

thank you and even if its not "useful" on release itll still be fun to fly

[delicate girder]

LOL! Hopefully not that bad but a few basic npc prirates which would necessitate a full crew and/or escorts depending on the value of the load.

Is the Hull C going to have a bay that might hold a couple Furies? How cool would that be if so!

Basically, I don't thing CIG is going to make it easy for single players to fly a mega loads of our current commodities and make millions on each load. I think they'll find ways to make it a hard requirement that it's crewed by more than one player to be successful.

I think the best thing would be to have contracts where the players are not risking their own money to load the entire Hull C with cargo, and is getting a lesser cut of the profit because of that. That way the hauling contracts become more about protecting cargo and maintaining rep ... kind of like much fancier bounties contracts. Cargo escort contracts.

[vestal ravine]

I would go for that!

[delicate girder]

There've been very few space games which have pulled off good escort missions and none have ever done it well in multi-player. Well, EVE online maybe but it's too different. For me, that's like the next step past and our current service beacons and bounty missions!

Not only that, they could eventually tie in pirate missions which could be taken against the shipping contracts. That would have to come after server meshing though because right now there's not enough players on one server to really do it justice.

[delicate girder]

So if I'm in Crusader that would probably end up being the one on Yela? The original one is the only one which doesn't have a marker right? I'll try and see. Update: Can't find a mission like that in Maintenance: just a scrap removal contract.

I just need a contract which puts a marker on Jumptown until I can get good at finding it without one.

[ocean summit]

what are some good trade routes I can run with a Carrack?

I need about 15M to get a Reclaimer in game so I need some high profit routes

[delicate girder]

Trade routes don't make a ton, but checkout: https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522Carrack%2522,%2522investment%2522:3000000,%2522profitType%2522:%2522pure%2522,%2522itemTypes%2522:%255B%255D,%2522itemNames%2522:%255B%255D,%2522locationTypes%2522:%255B%255D,%2522locationNames%2522:%255B%2522Stanton%2520%253E%2520Crusader%2522%255D,%2522locationNamesType%2522:%2522whitelist%2522%257D

The routs with Beryl are way hard to fully stock. The ones with Distilled Spirits are fairly easy to stock at times. Quarts is usually easy. I need to test Medical supplies again.

HOWEVER, if the Ninetails Lockdown event comes back around at some point, that's your somewhat more risky why to make some serious cash hauling!

[vestal ravine]

Hey JT is running right now. You can use it to get an idea of the area. As far as I know none of them have markers. With 2 people it might be easier to figure something out. That's what I did last night for the Lorville surface entrance summary. Ninetails is great I average about 3 million in profits.

[ocean summit]

I think its like actually near impossible for a Carrack or C2 with a TS2 to go down

The charge speed is so insnaley fast and even an eclipse can't one shot either iirc

defo flying with escorts to 9T regardless though

[vestal ravine]

https://youtu.be/biHSR0QaDKA Finding the 3 drug labs in Spanish...with subtitles...

The mission is "Re-Supply Up" for Jumptown...QT marker.

DO THESE DO THESE DO THESE...https://youtu.be/5ustglFRA-o

[delicate girder]

Yeah, I've done JTs before but oddly never at the original Jumptown. Didn't know if the other sites were non-marked when JT was not running. Not a bit worried about torp bombers. Moe worried about A2s, ground combat, and getting you ship jacked when it comes to JT.

[delicate girder]

Looks fun but very very RNG. How long is the trespass timer on the ships?

[proper furnace]

Heyy, thanks for sharing my video! @delicate girder it is VERY RNG, I've had 20+ missions in a row strike out. The trespass timer is 30 minutes, I'm usually there, scanned and gone within 3-6 minutes. Someone noticed if you find good cargo you can QT to an OM marker and back and the same cargo will respawn. I've heard they recently nerfed these cargo spawn rates but I haven't heard any confirmation on that.

[delicate girder]

One thing I noticed when I accidentally knocked a Freelancer salvage wreck out of the trespass zone is that the contract will stay around forever. It's probably not useful, but it's interesting.

[delicate girder]

Apparently, the 3.19.1 patch is going to add random cargo to wrecks from bounties and other sources too.

[tawny lodge]

awesome

i feel that salvage missions right now arent the best for getting cargo

ive ran about 6 of em and ive only made around 10k

[storm river]

Anyone know the best trade route for legal activity? want it to fill up an Aquila

[delicate girder]

https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522Constellation%2520Aquila%2522,%2522investment%2522:3000000,%2522profitType%2522:%2522pure%2522,%2522maxStops%2522:2,%2522showDetails%2522:true,%2522itemTypes%2522:%255B%255D,%2522itemNames%2522:%255B%255D,%2522locationTypes%2522:%255B%255D,%2522locationNames%2522:%255B%2522Stanton%2520%253E%2520Crusader%2522%255D,%2522locationNamesType%2522:%2522whitelist%2522%257D

[storm river]

I didn’t think that was accurate thabks

[vestal ravine]

I tried a 10 k one this morning and other security showed up early and I got a crimestat fighting back lol. Never did get a V scan of the ship. Next time my Retaliator gets involved.

[vestal ravine]

Just look at these guides for Beryl and pick a route.

[wicked brook]

ugh. lost my beryl load in taurus.. wind on ita threw me down the steps. and killed me. should've tried med beacon. bleh. Be careful exiting building on ita!

[tulip wave]

always crouch on stairs in outposts

[ripe dove]

I lost little over 2mill from me glitching out of my c2 during Quant and a server glitch with the crusader when my ship landed and I store my ship since the elevators were not working half my cargo glitches off my ship as being stored.

I would have over 5 mill to save up for a mole but I can't catch a brake.

[livid siren]

It actually does not harm you, after like 30 sec you wake up all good.

[vestal ravine]

Hello Moon! I subscribed to your channel and tried a 10K salvage mission 2 days ago mainly to check into this mystery crate process. Well there were no crates on that Connie but the snub ship looked pretty cool. Anyway I will try some of the higher tier ones have you tried the 150 K mission? I think if a couple of people teamed up on it especially to fight off the NPC ships it might be rewarding. Thanks for dropping in here!

Today I had an "Unknown" storage result at Lorville that said I had to claim the ship. It had $279,000 K of Beryl in a F Max. I thought it was lost but I came back 5 hours later and it seemed safely stored and I was able to sell it a few minutes later. But here's a short guide to the garage entrance at Lorville if you don't trust the terminals.

GUIDE TO THE GATE 6 GARAGE ENTRANCE AT LORVILLE
FOR SELLING TRADE GOODS OR PICKING UP A ROC

First off get centered over the actual Tesea Spaceport at 4,580 meters in altitude.

Point the front/bow of the ship at the big sloping building.

Turn the ship to your left 45 degrees.

Go straight forward 14 to 15 kilometers

Slowly drop down and look for a medium sized free standing building
that has a white strobe on top. The strobe blinks every second.

It will say “Gate 6” on the front facing away from the city.

Look for the twin ramps and land and go in the center doors.

[dense shale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5_7aFQMoxI

[delicate girder]

Whatever that trade route is (haven't watched yet), it's toast now.

[wispy shard]

it's mainly beryl from SMO-10 to Orison

[dense shale]

not my fault 🙂 i didn't make the youtube post

[vestal ravine]

He could of picked up Beryl on Daymar and took it to New Babbage or even back to Orison. I never pick up Scrap, Waste or Distilled Spirits on my ships.

[normal flax]

I’m working towards getting a C2, hopefully will hit a Million and a half aUec today, big for me but got a ways to go

[azure dove]

Why I'm careful about mentioning my specific trade routes if I find one.

[normal flax]

Same @azure dove

I string like 5-6 of them together

[modern agate]

Why no spirits?

[normal flax]

Also how often do prices change in game?

Like is, for example Diamonds, always going to be 4,302/unit sell?

Or could it change daily/weekly/monthly. I’ve never really paid attention to that

[azure dove]

it is manually done by someone at CIG currently.

If a major trade route is being swamped though, in they go and tweak the numbers

[vestal ravine]

Just never messed around with the lower tier trade items.

[rough ingot]

what has a better beryl refresh rate

smo10 or 22

[full glacier]

don't do the orison route - there is no demand there. Someone at Cig turned off the demand there, no doubt.

smo10 had a ton when I was there earlier.

[rough ingot]

yeah that wasnt the question though they both often have a lot

[full glacier]

then google it, I gave you the answer I knew. That smo10 had a bunch.

Refresh rates are all the same

[rough ingot]

no theyre not

[full glacier]

intervals, yes.

[normal flax]

it’d be nice if they slightly increase the amount of gold available, not saying all the scu in the world cause then it’d be broken but something other than fighting for one box every 10 minutes

[rough ingot]

butthurt because you didnt answer the question asked then are also wrong

[full glacier]

lol, gg to you. Go find out yourself then.

[solid creek]

hey
can anyone recommend any decent trade routes to maximise profit
im using the caterpillar and i have 800k to buy commodities with

[normal flax]

While I’m hesitant to give out my routing I use, I will say that I use uexcorp.space/trade for pricing and good trade

@solid creek http://uexcorp.space/trade

[solid creek]

tyty

[normal flax]

The pricing on this site uses current 3.19 prices so you get an accurate idea of how much you’ll make

[solid creek]

lovely
cheers o7

[normal flax]

@solid creek No problem! And a pro tip, instead of doing just one back and forth route, try to string multiple different routes together with shorter repositions between. It’s what I do and I can make ~1 million auec a day

I try to limit the number of empty trips I make

[elfin rune]

where can i sell cargo i found in the wild?

idk whats inside

anyone know wtf is this?

[rigid thistle]

one of the minerals

[elfin rune]

wow thanks

[elfin rune]

!fit

[wary tusk]

Can it fit?

Credit goes to u/KriLL3 on reddit

[topaz heart]

If I found some cargo in the abandoned ship of another player where can I go to sell it since it doesn't belong to me?

Would any drug selling terminal buy it off me since it's like a black market terminal?

[rough ingot]

yes

[remote dirge]

is there a ship fitment index?

[solid creek]

Hey
I had a caterpillar full of beryl and I got a 30k
How can I get my ship back with my cargo

[livid siren]

its mostly wrong info stop spamming it

[azure dove]

it gets moved to your home residence usually.

[azure dove]

then get the bot updated then

[solid creek]

cheers man
im just updating the game now then i will check
will all the cargo save

[azure dove]

if the protection worked okay

[solid creek]

ight
cheers

[stable dust]

Give it 10mins before you relog

[azure dove]

doesn't matter

wait if it says unknown though

[solid creek]

i got the 30k last night
got mad and left it until now

[azure dove]

they were applying hotfix to the servers over the last 12 hours or so,

so it may have just been a restart to apply the patch

[solid creek]

ah nice

someone warned of a 30k 10 seconds before it happened

[azure dove]

well 30k is just connection lost

it takes time after that for it to actually timeout

and the client stops trying to reestablish

the chat is a separate connection

[solid creek]

ahh ok
imma just check to see if the protection worked

[azure dove]

so you can still send chat messages for a bit.

[solid creek]

i cant even lie
this game always confuses me

[azure dove]

r_DisplayInfo 2 has BwIn and BwOut values, BwIn is Bandwidth of the data being sent to you from server.

that'll hit 0 a bit before the game actually throws up the 30k.

but as I said, the game can in theory re-establish connection.

[solid creek]

ahh ok
thanks
i never knew how people could tell

ive seen that happen before

[azure dove]

a lot of people say 30k at slightest lag too

[solid creek]

true dat

[azure dove]

it isn't reliable that method

[solid creek]

my caterpillar is stored at loreville
gonna go get it and hopefully get my cargo back

[azure dove]

also 30k is just connection lost, that can be the cat pulled out ethernet cable, the ISP is routing badly, datacenter is routing badly....

all before we get to server actually crashed.

[novel roost]

welp, jsut lost a c2 full of berryl because orison decided to destroy it instead of store it.. went from 1.3 somethin mill uec to 112 >.<

[azure dove]

yep... I've been avoiding orison of late...

[novel roost]

been goodd all night.

[azure dove]

it is random

but suddenly

[novel roost]

ive had it happene everywehre.

[azure dove]

it can happen a few stations too

[novel roost]

every planet has done it to me at least once this patch

[azure dove]

I've been avoiding stuff where it matters...

like trading

[novel roost]

ill jsut hang around ports and salvage noobs and ai that crashed till i get a full vulture tadn thats enought o start trading again

[normal flax]

I make a habit of stopping at the space stations before landing at the major stations in the event that happens. Like if I’m doing a cross-verse shipment of a mil auec I’ll land at Port Olisar, log out, back in, then land at Orison

Only when I move huge amounts though