industrial-professions

[vestal ravine]

I took the Cutter to the Cellin Hydro site for guns they never have now then picked up 4 meds and looted the other junk.

[elfin rune]

Any hint about when will we see hull b c d ?

[fallen burrow]

C should be coming November

[uneven grove]

Hopefully along with BMM

[karmic vigil]

Hey guys,
Why can't anyone be on a ship while my friend (owner) is buying or selling cargo? Like if I want to remain on a turret for protection, I can't. I have to get out of the ship for my friend to be able to buy/sell stuff. Am I missing something?

[shy temple]

Is cargohauling really a good way of making credits? I watched a video where he was flying a Hull a and said he could make 1 mil per hour from cargohauling, i really doubt this because i have tried it and only made a profit of maximum 10k. Does anyone know how i that is possible

[pastel flame]

Unless you actually see them prove that in the video, press X to doubt.

[fallen burrow]

Hauling you need a big ship and a bigger wallet

You’re gonna dump 1.5 mil into a c2 to net 300k profit

[pastel flame]

Even running drugs or laranite/titanium mix I'd love to see someone post some evidence of reliable 1 mil per hour, because I'm not seeing it.

Usually they omit all the tram, return, or other times that add up

[fallen burrow]

I like trading but I definitely doubt it’s a mil an hour

Maybe if no one touches laranite for hours on end and you can fill a c2 full

[thorn marsh]

if anyone has a cutty blue / mantis go ahead and join the 'pirating' call, your help would be appreciated

[zenith maple]

please use #looking-for-session to ask for people to join

[slate crest]

I'm looking into running slam in my avenger titan but is there anything i should be wary of? Like crimestats, bounties, etc

[bitter jungle]

Is it possible to fill my ship with cargo while someone from my group sits in the pilot seat?

[clever hamlet]

last time i tried that (3.18.0) it said I couldn't buy any cargo with someone in the ship.

[bitter jungle]

Oh wierd

[clever hamlet]

yea pretty dumb, would save a lot of time.

[cursive coral]

trying to get into the cargo hauling business anyone wanna help me out

[uneven grove]

Get a huge cargo hold get a lot of capital to buy, buy low sell high. Don’t die

[fallen burrow]

I prefer to buy high sell low

💎

[uneven grove]

Fucking trade king over here

[fallen burrow]

💎🤲🏻

Diamond hands ftw

[balmy badger]

Do the tractor beams on the Taurus work?

[jovial matrix]

Nope

[balmy badger]

man

[jovial matrix]

Indeed

[fallen burrow]

I don’t think any ship based tractor beams are functional rn

[potent jacinth]

how does one get into cargo and trading

[fallen burrow]

Buy a ship with large cargo hood

Go buy laranite, sell to tdd

[swift ice]

best drug route?

or if someone wanna talk cuz never done it before

[balmy badger]

I can't sell my tungsten at Area18??

[swift ice]

[ivory gust]

Mined tungsten ore: No. You can only sell ore at refineries

Tungsten the commodity (or refined ore): yes you can, at the TDD

[swift ice]

I hope most people on the servers are freshie so they dont kill me on drug runs

[elfin rune]

Just for information

The argo raft cargo cant be used to carry stuff

Only the 32u containers not implemented

[slate crest]

Any tips for running slam?

[hoary owl]

hi guys, I'm fairly new, started a few weeks ago but had issues with 3.18.. currently I want to do some simple delivery missions, but whenever i get within a few km of the package i'm supposed to retrieve, the mission gets withdrawn?! every time! that is both in 3.18.1 live and 3.18.2 PTU! What am I doing wrong?

[autumn cedar]

Yeah hire a scout to see what's what at Brio's or you might be a space pinata when you arrive there.

[slate crest]

is brio's where you sell it? And if you wouldn't mind would you tell me the route you'd usually take?

[autumn cedar]

I don't trade illegals, have no clue how to daisy chain the SLAM purchase spots. And yes, Brio's is usually the place SLAM runners go to sell their crates. Hence it's also a magnet for player 🏴‍☠️

[slate crest]

ok thanks for the help but i've been selling at one on hurston and havent ran into anyone yet. Im in an avenger titan aswell so i dont think i have the profit for a scout either

[autumn cedar]

Well if you're in a smaller ship it deffo makes you less of a potential target.

[slate crest]

Anyone know where i can buy slam in hurston?

[zenith maple]

!tradetools should show the different locations

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[slate crest]

sweet thanks

[hollow sedge]

if i want to start mining, cant afford a ROC. where do i go with my little gun

[rugged axle]

You don't, do a different game loop to save up to rent a roc

[elfin rune]

This, general questing til you can rent a cutlass black and a ROC, then go rock mining

The rent price isnt the same in all the refineries, youll need to scout. Ive been able to rent both for 20k~

But remember if you want to go to aberdeen youll need the pembroke suit

@hollow sedge theres ofc YouTube guides

[rugged axle]

Cutty is a death sentence current patch, have to rent/own something else to carry the roc. Or risk dying getting in the seat of the cutty

[hollow sedge]

thanks, im ROC mining in my MSR loaner since my cutlass is bugged

rented a ROC

[rugged axle]

Your lucky, my cutty loaner for my c1, apparently doesn't qualify for the msr upgrade. Even though I don't have the c1. So I'm stuck with a ship I can't use

[swift ice]

Any tips for running drugs?

If someone wants to do together and teach me stuff or if you have a discord pls invite me

[pastel flame]

Yeah, here ya go https://youtu.be/3HxZU3Xo3QQ

Any ship will do, but beware pirates!

The key thing is that you see the mission in that video to lead you to good drug buy spots.

[swift ice]

Thanks

[open torrent]

Can I rent a ship and do cargo runs with it? If so what ship is the best to rent for cargo runs

[mossy palm]

The bigger the better. Start at MISC Freelancer.

[elfin rune]

Guys where do i sell meds in a station?

Any especific terminal or something?

Dafak i can only sell 10 scu? Come on

[jovial matrix]

Stations buy relatively small amounts of everything, you should always be selling at a TDD if it’s legal commodities

[elfin rune]

Didnt know it, thanks

Was losing my mind xd

The comodity alerts pop randomly or with fixed timer?

[jovial matrix]

No idea

[mossy palm]

At hospital's pharmacy terminal for max profits.

[cinder hamlet]

I feel like it is random and at least in 3.18 the number never changed and the amount at each station never changed. If you want a easy 10 min run that makes about 20k per C2 you run processed food from one of the moons on arc Corp to bajini. Also on crusader if you run distilled spirits to port oli that is also a good run that is just easy money if nothing else

[ornate copper]

That sounds life they were using the trade exploit set to be fixed in 3.18.2

[swift ice]

what are the best drug routes

?

so like I just did one private proprety - damar yard

and I made around 30k in 10 minutes

I mean thats kinda good tho

in 1 hour I can make 180k or more

[swift ice]

I didnt fill up all of my cutlass so maybe once I get more money I'll be able to make at least 60k per run

[wispy shard]

also nuen on daymar while your en route to brio's to top off

[swift ice]

So from daymar I go to neun buy and sell where?

[wispy shard]

neun u can buy more drugs

i don't think 1 place will ever be able to fill a cutlass, so if i needed to top off for a full load i would go to nuen on my way to sell at brio's

nuen and brio's are both on daymar

[swift ice]

Oh ok

Yeah I know

Also to fill up my ship I can wait like 10 mins since it restocks right?

[wispy shard]

yeah it does but idk what the timer and amounts are

there is also NT-999-XX on Yela to buy drugs at

usually i would just cruise around because flying is enjoyable, instead of waiting it out ... or once i've bought everything do a few on-planet routes of various things

[swift ice]

How much do you make per run

If you fill a Drake cutlass

Average

[bitter jungle]

if I land on a space stations pad (port olisar) will I be able to sell the goods stored on my ship ?

[swift ice]

Depends

If they’re drugs idk

[bitter jungle]

no it's just metal

[swift ice]

If they’re normal stuff then I am not really informed

I think you can tho

[wispy shard]

i think it was around that 50k mark you mentioned before, not bad money imo. this was pre-3.18.0 wipe. after 18.2 wipe i am not going to touch a cutlass, hate it - walking out the back ramp would often incapacitate me, then i would revive to full health after a minute - bloody frustrating

[wispy shard]

that was when the ramp would even actually work, most of the time it wouldn't go back up so i'd have to leave it open and just hope no one would steal it and my drugs

[wispy shard]

you should be able to ... check out sc-trade.tools tho to see if they're buying what you're selling

[bitter jungle]

having such a hard time to find the refining center on olisar

[elfin rune]

If its somewhere you can store the ship, i advice to do it. You wont lose the cargo, its 100% you can sell the stuff, and you wont have penalties for obstructing a landing place

[bitter jungle]

how can I find this ?? Refinement Center
Stanton > Crusader > Port Olisar

I have been running in circles for half an hour, does this place exist ?

[elfin rune]

In port olistar there was a " sales ore " terminal, i think you cant refine stuff

[elfin rune]

Huh

[bitter jungle]

I don't want to refine anything, I want to sell my agricium, which I can sell in a place called "refinement center" according to sc-trade.tools

[elfin rune]

I only can find in the web a comm console

[bitter jungle]

not sure what that means

[elfin rune]

The commodity terminal, where you buy or sell stuff like agricium

[bitter jungle]

the admin commodity console is not interested in my agricium

it's listed as "cannot sell" there

[elfin rune]

Its overstock or something?

Theres a lock in the item?

[bitter jungle]

it's not listed at good that they want to buy

yes there is

[elfin rune]

Then i think they dont want to buy

Happened me last night with meds

Did you sell anything there? I was only able to sell 10 scu last night in a station

[bitter jungle]

someone told me to use sc-trade.tools but I feel I just spent a rather big amount of cash on something I can't sell 😦 this information is just not true

no they do not list agricium as a produkt they want to buy at all

I couldn't sell anything

[elfin rune]

I can only advice to sell in a city tdd terminal

Maybe not the best price but they use to buy most

[bitter jungle]

yeah omw to .. lorville or something to try there

[elfin rune]

I sold in area18 last night, they dont buy infinite amounts but use to buy a lot

Im no expert here so i could be wrong tho, i only learn from my mistakes

Can i ask which ship are you using?

[swift ice]

Yeah I found a solution

For me this solution works

Sitting from the right

Like stand like next to the windows in the right front

And look slightly at the chair

[swift ice]

50K per 10/20 mins is great. In one hour I can make 300K

[wispy shard]

only problem is you can't keep getting full loads each run, especially if other people on the server are also buying so you'll have to supplement with some legal commodities as well

[bitter jungle]

constellation taurus

[wispy shard]

i was only killed by the chair ONCE ... all these people getting killed by the chair and i'm over here getting killed/not-killed by the ramp 😆

[swift ice]

I’ll buy in different places

[wispy shard]

i've had runs where i will fill like 40SCU at Nuen alone ... and then runs where i hit all three places in Crusader and end up with like 10 SCU total

just depends on how many other people in the server are also doing those runs .. sometimes you'll arrive as someone else is leaving and all you can buy is 1 or 2 SCU of something

[open oriole]

hey I am doing a delievery job So I gotta pick up this probe or something and deploy it on microtech it says I was wondering if there are any bugs that I should know

[elfin rune]

Woho im testing the same, what do you think?

[bitter jungle]

I am in love

so much that I bought a paint for it even though it's not a pledge

I can do high risk beacons with it solo AND have some nice cargo space, plus I can fit a vehicle for bunkers!

[elfin rune]

I love the size and flight, id preffer more cargo tho

Id like to beacons or fight but im, apparently, too bad at piloting

[bitter jungle]

I am not very good at it either but I really lack experience

[elfin rune]

Its a good ship, ill keep it maybe till invictus, id like something bigger

[bitter jungle]

I am not sure what would be better - as I am playing alone quite a lot (short sessions every now and then) I could only consider something an upgrade with a better pilot weaponry

plus I am not someone to invest real money into ships..

[grand sable]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[slender bronze]

All the established traders will have a timer set to more or less predict when the slam restocks to a level it's worth their while.
And they'll be on site to buy the whole stock before the timer is up.

Unless you're lucky or someone else drops the ball you're unlikely to get a decent amount.

Try looking for something with less value, it's a kick in the teeth but it's likely to be more predictable.

I trade stims regularly and the return isn't as good as slam.
But as above. It's predictable.

[vestal ravine]

Yes, backfill with Titanium or similar. Wait for a refresh.

[quick slate]

hey did they turn off drugs?

[boreal vine]

No?

[elfin rune]

Will legal comms be profitable without the biggest ships? Youre risking your cash after all

Any website or way to know where to sell a cargo?

[zenith maple]

!tradetools is the best site for it

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[zenith maple]

and profitable is kinda up for debate, most people will say its not worth it doing small loads

But if you want to try out the gameloop to just have a feel for it, I say do it.

but to make enough money for the risk of loosing it all, most wont do small ships because the earnings are so small for the time you spend doing it.

[strong dew]

Hey ! just want to share an issue with people who do cargo. When i buy Laranite the terminals to sell at stations are not showing my ship at all. someone know why or have the same issue ?

[vestal ravine]

You might want to try the TDD's at the planets.

[strong dew]

I'll try there ! thanks

[fallen burrow]

They’re trying to buy, not sell. Laranite is sold at TDDs

[fallen burrow]

Is your ship empty of any players or corpses? Also is it landed at one of the landing pads?

[strong dew]

Yup nobody inside and i tried with the ship landed and stored :/

Cannot sell anything

[fallen burrow]

That’s weird if it’s stored but you can’t see it

Only thing I can think of is to try another tdd

[strong dew]

I tried like 4 station

i'm gonna go try area 18 or lorville

[marble crater]

If you're trying to sell you have to go to a TDD at a major city (A18, Loreville etc)

[strong dew]

Ok i misunderstanded how it worked. Thanks for the help !

[ivory gust]

pretty much all worthwhile legal trade routes right now deliver to a TDD at a major city -- part of why Hull C would be very meh if it released right now, it wouldn't be able to do any of those

[indigo shore]

Is medical supply hauling still profitable with a starlifter after the update?

[cinder hamlet]

@indigo shore follow the trade update in the journal. It doesn’t really change but you can see where to buy and sell. I know processed food was 20-25k per C2 in arc Corp and it was like a 10 min run.

[ivory gust]

20-25k is a very poor profit for a C2 when you could just be running Titanium for 80k.

[ivory gust]

The supply/demand is the problem for medical supplies. The per-item profit is nice but you'll have a hard time selling a full load without needing to wait for refresh.

[indigo shore]

m

[shut isle]

to whoever placed a full caterpillar at brios breaker yard with the white boxes that look like drug boxes, fuck you i spent 2 hours loading that shit and dumb enough not to check to see that it was processed food. 6k creds in 2 hours = profit

to everyone else have a nice day

[bitter jungle]

right... this bothers me you know....

I wanted to buy cargo and load it onto my ship

but appearently I can't do that while my ship is occupied

how am I ever going to become a serious drug lord if I am not allowed to have any corpses on my couch ?!

poor max is out in the dust now

[mossy palm]

Maybe tun between space stations, but those do not need so much supplies as planets.

[ivory gust]

Scrap I think is the only commodity that the Hull-C would be able to do if it released now, since there are station to station routes for it--but even then demand at the L1 stations is too low to accept a full Hull-C at once.

At current prices you'd be able to get ~190k a run if you had full supply/demand available, which isn't bad but a lot less than you'd expect given that the Hull-C carries 6.6x what the C2 can

[mossy palm]

Thinking about this, and I think that ships like Hull C would be more useful for transport of good between planets and star systems, with it doing major jumps, and smaller ships like freelancer doing orbit-to-surface and vice versa cargo runs.

So, I believe that Star Citizen is too small for now for Hull C and other such supermax-types to be released.

[zenith maple]

so you are thinking more about transporting huge amounts of goods between the systems?

for when we get pyro

knock on wood

[ivory gust]

I agree, but CIG has said that the Hull-C will be releasing before this November

[mossy palm]

Yeah, that exactly would be most profitable for larger cargo haulers. And ballsy loners or well organized orgs would profit most out of that. Mine and scrap in Pyro, and sell foods, meds, stims and alcohol (and drugs) to pyro.

[ionic wedge]

I am super excited for the Hull C

Hopefully we get a new cargo system that can make cargo hauler a more viable solution

None of this 'taking out 8 million dollars worth of cargo and hoping you make it to your destination" shenanigans

[fallen burrow]

All for 200k profit mind you lmao

[ionic wedge]

For real. Its pretty ridiculous that thats pretty much the only way that I can use my Hull A, along with the Hull C if it gets released before new cargo mechanics

Hull C would be ludicrous if theres not a new cargo system in place when it gets released

[elfin rune]

Whats the stock limit in the outposts? 2k scu?

[quick slate]

hey so I found a ship full of stuff with all the doors open and hopped in

can I sell this at like, new babbage?

at the TDD?

[elfin rune]

Huh idk if its not your ship

You could move out the cargo

And bring your own ship

Id gladly help you but im not online sadly

[hasty grove]

You’d have to unfortunately move all of it out to your ship to sell it.

I just grab a multi tool and fling it into my ship

[mossy palm]

Does anyone know where one can buy compboards for cargo hauling/trading?

[zenith maple]

I have not looked to verify, but I would imagine its listed in !tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[mossy palm]

There is no sellers listd there or UEXCORP. That's why I asked here.

[zenith maple]

uexcorp says its not something you can buy yet, so might just be loot only?

[mossy palm]

Dammit.

[deft glade]

Can you sell drugs at cru l5?

cru L5?

[indigo shore]

what are some good strats for trading or hauling with the mercury, (114 SCU)

[vestal ravine]

Fly around to the 5 Agricium spots then on the last run backfill with gold or tungsten.

[haughty bluff]

Tips and tricks to mid max Conny Taurus runs.

[spring prism]

#industrial-professions message

[ionic wedge]

An interesting take of someones question on why a Hull E would even be needed.

It'd be cool to resupply a whole station or a port that can move cargo down to the surface of whatever planet

[elfin rune]

i have a cony taurus,and i love it. But i only cargo legal stuff following the comodities alerts

mostly spirits and meds

but its nice,a bit heavy

nice flight,VTOL required in planets

[elfin rune]

THIS would be really cool

the hull e even have landing gear?

even the B looks like cant land with full cargo

and then, how would you load a full cargo if noone sells more than 2k?

[ionic wedge]

All of the Hull type ships have landing gear when compressed and the A and B model should be able to go to the surface with full cargo. Apparently the B model is getting redesigned because its advertised as to being able to land planet side with full cargo. There has to be an overhaul of the cargo system if any of these ships are going to be viable at all.

[vestal ravine]

I love flying the Hull A model and tried the Gold/Tungsten route but shit such low SCU for the Gold and did top off the Tungsten but only made $2,376.00 for 60 minutes joke's on me lol. Maybe I'll spend 2 hours hitting all the Vice spots and see how far I get. God help us.

[ionic wedge]

You anti drug?

ETAM and SLAM go for good money and you can find good routes that have little risk

[vestal ravine]

I will check this out more thanks! Just seeing what can happen with the normal trade routes with a single stop and return process.

[light ledge]

lol

[elfin rune]

Not even once i visited a drug store and find stock, so i move to the next safe spot

Mostly med suplies can make 120k hour

Wiht luck

[ionic wedge]

I'm really hoping for a somewhat real economy across multiple systems. It could be fucking wild the differences you could make if items were scarce somewhere

Microchips could only be manufactured on MicroTech, or something to that nature, and they need some really bad in Pyros. Well, get your long range cargo hauler and make the run.

[haughty bluff]

It needs vtol on planets? I honestly hardly ever use it on my conny. I mainly only use it in the cutlass.

But thanks for the info

[solar frigate]

anyone av to join my stream and give me a mining tut? ill share proceeds lol

[elfin rune]

Well "need "its relative ofc but theres a substancial difference

[elfin rune]

Sorry id like to but im out

[elfin rune]

Mostly in new babbage and orison, if i try to land it has a tendency to fall

[fallen burrow]

connie vtol is decorative

try vtol on a cutter or a hercules, then youll feel it

[elfin rune]

Never flight that 2 but i def can feel it in the taurus

[fallen burrow]

Ive tried it on my old andromeda and didnt feel much of a difference

[elfin rune]

Just more vertical push

[fallen burrow]

I would hope vtol would feel like that lol

[elfin rune]

Taking off its where my mostly feel it, it makes me " touch " the space bar instead of " press ".

[fallen burrow]

gotcha, that makes sense, I really only used it for planetary escape but with how the connie feels in atmo i never really felt the need for it

Herc on the other hand is sluggish in atmospheric escape until you vtol

[elfin rune]

Lol, id love to have one

Maybe invictus will make it

And has a good cargo space

[fallen burrow]

any herc but m2 lol

[elfin rune]

C2 ofc

[fallen burrow]

c2 has largest flyable cargo space and a2 is haha funny bomb

[elfin rune]

I only care about industrial / cargo ships

Future buyer of vulcan expanse and SRV here

But id love to see how the hull series work

[tame venture]

hey

how many crate can you salvage from NPC redeemer?

crates

[vestal ravine]

I was salvaging a Freelancer and only got 1.6 crates so the Redeemer probably not to much. The Freelancer Max was 4 crates top half only.

[tame venture]

bull shit than 😄

[elfin rune]

Can i detonate my ship and then go salvage it?

[jovial matrix]

You can, it’d be better to leave it fully intact and just power it off instead

[elfin rune]

Ehm can i do that?

Doesnt have to be a " destroyed " ship or something like that?

@jovial matrix ?

[vestal ravine]

I've been doing this fraud thing. Just park the ship 200 feet past the armistice zone and have at it. But you need a friend to get the Vulture back to the site or a transport beacon. If you go in space you can harvest both sides.

[jovial matrix]

Yeah you can salvage intact ships, the only requirement is that the shields are down

[barren river]

hi all, is the Thrustmaster flightsim duo worth it to get into an inexpensive HOSAS setup?

[elfin rune]

I see, thanks guys

[jovial matrix]

Hit up #sim-and-pc-hardware for advice on that

[barren river]

thank you @jovial matrix

[swift ice]

Do you think that with pyro cargo trading will change?

Like for example you buy a material/ drug that’s only in pyro and you sell it in Stanton

[ionic wedge]

That would make the most sense for sure

[vestal ravine]

Saw a SaltEMike comment video some trader had a Carrack full of SLAM before the exploit. Then crazy things happened. I can't hardly imagine that!! Wow...

[stable dust]

What are the typical times for an outpost to restock?

[vestal ravine]

I go with 10 minutes but it may happen sooner. I am going to do more with a fly up to nearby space, bedlog, and come back either on the same server or a new one.

[finite lion]

How do i get a loot box or this 1scu box that i can carry arround and put stuff init ?

[spare cloud]

Put stuff in your ship, destroy it

[finite lion]

Thanks!

[finite lion]

Can i also buy this box ?

[spare cloud]

No

Or yes, to a player

[ionic oasis]

you can buy an SCU box from some cargo stores

pretty sure Orison has one

[vestal ravine]

The smaller ones you can buy but the 2 scu ones are player generated. Here's my process using a 135c and a friend. Place 2 Morokov backpacks into the ship's inventory. Fly ship out of the armistice zone. Turn ship off, join friend. Blow ship up. Recover crate. It should have the 2 backpacks inside. Tractor new bigger crate to a Cutlass or similar ship. The crate cannot be stored in a station inventory. Treat it with care.

[grave quest]

fellas Im having trouble with jumptown, Im trying to buy some slam but the terminal is red and the use button flickers. No matter what I try it never lets me in the terminal, I sthere a known work around?

[spare cloud]

they're 125k µSCU boxes

not 1SCU boxes

[ionic oasis]

ooo didn't know that

[clever hamlet]

So, I have an A2 and put an ursa inside of it.. after i was done for the day I noticed my ursa's front left wheel fell off some how and I can't get it out by driving it. Do I just give up the A2 and claim another?

[sacred raptor]

that'd be the easiest thing to do

remove any personal stuff or other cargo from it before claiming as you'll get a new ship

[empty dust]

whats the best place to sell slam

[kindred gust]

Where to get slam? I think u can sell it at any junk yard

[ionic wedge]

Can't wait to be hauling these on my Hull C. I just don't know how I'm gonna keep from losing my whole life savings when the pirate inevitably come for that sweet, sweet loot.

Thats a future me problem

MyNameIsCoffeeAndI'llGetRobbed

[elfin rune]

my humble RAFT will move those too

[toxic crown]

hey all, i managed to get a bunch of drugs and dont know where to sell them. any help?

its not SLAM cargo

or widow or anything

its some smaller box drug

[vestal ravine]

Is it Maze? Are they wrapped in shrink wrap? Can you get a screenshot?

[toxic crown]

it was revenant tree something, did not sell for much lol

thank you for trying to help though, i ended up figuring it out

[vestal ravine]

Ok great!

[errant kiln]

What’s a good trading route for my connie?

I’ve never done trading before so I wanna try this new patch

[elfin rune]

I only trade legal goods

Meds or spirits

[errant kiln]

Why

Don’t illegal drugs sell for more?

[elfin rune]

I know the price and i buy full cargo where they have overstock

[errant kiln]

Also where should I pick up and drop off stuff.

[elfin rune]

In theory yes but ive never done it

[elfin rune]

The journal - commodity price alerts tell you where to buy

[errant kiln]

Ok

[elfin rune]

And i sell in city tdd

But sometimes the city doesnt buy all the stuff

I think they only buy till 500scu

If cant sell, ive traveled to another city

Its not fancy but you get around 50k in 20min~

With a taurus

Its all i can say cause its all i know

I wanted to try the cargo gameloop too

And this looked the safest way

[errant kiln]

I heard there is a trade route that is on one moon and is really good

[fallen burrow]

Laranite+titanium to tdd

[vestal ravine]

The just started Xeno Threat event has a cargo moving aspect and can pay really well overall. FYI

[warm arrow]

Isnt it really small cargo? So C2 is useless? or am I wrong

[fallen burrow]

C2 is never useless

Love me the herc

[vestal ravine]

I never made it to the actual event, but was in the general battlezone so was getting credits just for that. (140,000 Aeuc) I assume it's like last year however. Was having trouble getting my 2 account characters set up with the glitches and one was at Orison and it was just to much. So now I have them MOSTLY ready for tomorrow based out of Port Tressler. I am bringing a C2 it's all in space so any cargo ship is fine. When you fly the canisters back to the Javelin pirates can attack you and the C2 can take more damage if you are solo and no defending fighters. In that session 5 pirate ships were causing all sorts of troubles but each session is different. Good luck if you try it. ALSO: If you are in a session that might not have enough players to hit the goals you can server jump to a new session/region.

[spare cloud]

Last time I play xenothreat, Titan could fit it all :S

[swift ice]

is callipe-euterpe a good and safe run?

for drugs

[stoic isle]

Any tips to fix this issue?
Have a c2 full of Cargo (Aluminum + Fluoride) but when accessing terminal at TDD it shows zero loot inside the C2, "No demand" is empty.
First Cargo run and so far not a good experience. Have tried Storing at Hangar, Relogging, Parking at New Babbage Hangar, parking near the Commons Exterior Entrance & More. Have been instructed to "Wait and see" but after 10 minutes; nothing. I remember seeing players talking about a method to fix this in game once, so hoping someone happens to know here.

A player in game says its "One of the boxes out of alignment on the grid." and that I need to remove/replace all of the cargo within the C2 with a Tractor beam.
Wanted to post again here before commiting to that.

[elfin rune]

Did you load the boxes by hand?

You could try store - retrieve

[stoic isle]

I did try storing and retrieving multiple times. & no the boxes were purchased from a HDMS trading site. C2 is completely full of cargo.

[rugged axle]

its most likely the broken terminals right now.
because the grid of the ship isnt even showing up. try a different server

[rich siren]

ya store the ship and move to another region server might fix it

[midnight nymph]

Does anyone know if there is an Acriliplex Claim search mission that spawns anywhere? I know there is one for Zeta

[subtle hatch]

will stock refreshes update live while you're on the screen, or do you need to refresh it?

i.e., leave the console and start again

[royal ginkgo]

anyone have a reclaimer and want to do some salvage

[zenith maple]

you might have better luck in #looking-for-session

[upbeat oracle]

what are some good trade routes? Currently ive just been trucking back and forth between hdms bezdek and lorville carrying titanium, but its really slow going. Anyone have any better routes or items i can carry?

optimally im looking for lower risk runs, i dont feel like trying to smuggle drugs and avoid getting scanned or killed by players when im just looking to make some starter cash and rebuy all the ships and modules i used to have...

[vestal ravine]

Try Arc Corp 141 on Daymar. Buy the Agricium. Wait 10 minutes on site and buy more. Fly into deeper space and bedlog to a new server region. Then sell and see if your profits improve.

[upbeat oracle]

is that really the best? the profit margins must be insane if spending all that time waiting around still generates more money than doing runs back and forth

[vestal ravine]

It's one route and process of many combinations. I don't really count time spent as a consideration. My MSR run there with a backfill of Titanium netted me a 31k profit. And that's okay for me.

[upbeat oracle]

hmmmm

ive been buying at 710 and selling at 890, a full load nets me 31k

the time it takes to takeoff at lorville, fly to ariel, land, fly back to hurston, and land at lorville agian

and ofc ride the tram between the spaceport and the trading center

[median thorn]

Does any one know if i can transfer cargo (salvage ) from my Vulture to a station and do multiple runs before i transport it all with a bigger ship later on ?

[spare cloud]

Unfortunately no, you can only transfer items from the inventory.

[median thorn]

ah, too bad. maybe soon ? 🙂

[spare cloud]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[opal peak]

what routes are good atm?

for a cutlass

[spare cloud]

drugs, cutlass too small for lawful cargo

[opal peak]

yeah thats what im doing rn

[vestal ravine]

Hello. What ship are you using? The bigger space truckers are using ships like the C2, Carrack and Caterpillar to maximize relative profits. Cletus and Jack Axton run full time trade routes on their You Tube channel and they never run empty but in that case you might have to buy the lowest priced trade items. Also you might want to START from a space station which has a shorter travel time to your actual ship. If you need to quickly build up your cash supply I would just do everything possible to engage in the Xenothreat custom event until May 2nd. I've been using both my accounts at the battlefield in one ship and my profit is $ 843,000 K over 2 days. Of course I'm retired and I can afford to set aside time to do this. Just base yourself out of MicL1. Also Vice runs are the hot money. I have a summary sheet on this if you want more information. Good luck!!!

[swift ice]

What's the best cargo type

[kindred gust]

Drugs

[spare cloud]

Depends on your cargo capacity. If you don't have more than 100 SCU, you better do drugs. Taurus and its 174 SCU is the minimum to make lawful cargo worth it

[swift ice]

what are the best ship for around 1-1mln

[spare cloud]

Cargo ?

Below 1M Nomad is the best, with 24 SCU.
Above and cheapest, HULL A with 48 SCU or Cutlass Black, 48 too and a little 800 aUEC more expensive
Then it quickly escalate but if you want to do lawful cargo none of these are good

Buy at least a Taurus for lawful cargo

[swift ice]

alright

I'll get the cutty

Im at 700k

one question

if I bed log with drugs will they still be there?

[spare cloud]

Is bed log good now ? I don't think it is, I'd recommend you avoid bed log as much as you can

[swift ice]

ok

So just wondering

[worldly anchor]

new player well ive had the game for 3 years but im just getting into playing what in the world should i be focusing on >

?

[zenith maple]

My general advice is to find youtube videos that show the different game loops, and try them all out

do a bit of everything, find what you like to do, do that for money, and enjoy from there

[worldly anchor]

thanks ill do that

[hazy oriole]

sorry for a later reply, how exactly are you making money from the xenothreat, i havent been able to check it out yet but if youre making that much i might as well give it a shot

[upbeat oracle]

I’m poor so I’m using a Taurus, could I have that summary sheet please?

[cinder hamlet]

You can also just ask chat if you can join someone. Usually there is a few players who help out.

[vestal ravine]

Just a quick note on Xeno. There are people that need help on the Reclaimers at the battle site. If you get payments from them plus the event payout you could make shitload of space bucks.

[upbeat oracle]

gotcha

would you mind linking the summary sheet please?

just so i can see my trading options

[rugged axle]

I've had 0 issues bed logging since 3.18.0

[elfin rune]

bed log its risky,maybe good maybe not

[vestal ravine]

I just sent it to you as a Word .doc

[upbeat oracle]

🙏

[vestal ravine]

I heard this in several game chats as a POSSIBLE cause of conflict with the store purchase screens. The three loaner ships are causing the conflict. Do not store those at your current location.

[fallen burrow]

I did too, until today, got an error message saying my bed didn’t exist in the current shard or something similar, so it threw me to my spawn point in MIC L2, but the station hadn’t loaded so I was in space, but I couldn’t spacewalk and was stuck with a limited field of where I could turn my head. Logged after that and I was in a18

[glad crow]

So I found one of my old ships with cargo in it from when I crashed about an hour ago. The cargo is still there and the ship still works. But when I go to sell the cargo it doesnt show up as an option to select mt ship someone pls help I need the money I put all my savings into it

[barren marsh]

That cargo is likely considered stolen. Try taking it to a no questions asked terminal

[rugged axle]

I logged at port olisar, when I logged back in I was in zero g IN the hab room, choking with a helmet and died lol. Weird things happen sometimes

[fallen burrow]

Name checks out

[brittle raft]

fuck this stupid game

lost 200k to a 30k

all because the spaceport opened a hangar for me and then refused to acknowledge it as my allowed hangar

[vestal ravine]

Sometimes they give the wrong advice I just go back in the station and later it gets stored like normal. What is the condition of the ship in aesop?

[brittle raft]

there was a 30k so when I relogged it had disappeared from the spaceport

location just unknown

[vestal ravine]

Okay. Sorry this happened to you.

[sacred raptor]

how long did you wait before logging back in?

if you try immediately you're probably not going to get your ship back. 30k recovery actually works pretty well if you wait 10 minutes or so

#📁┃help-archive message

[brittle raft]

did it immediately

[sacred raptor]

wait 10 minutes next time

[clever hamlet]

sometimes takes like an hour for 30k recovery

[deft moth]

anyone else having a lot more trouble finding mining stations with resources

laranite is constantly out of stock

[pastel flame]

It's been like that for a long time, high demand low refresh values relatively speaking

[elfin rune]

Guys how do you calculate the real range of a ship and QD?

[twilit stag]

can someone please help me with cargo?

[elfin rune]

Shoot

[vestal ravine]

The game does it for you. You can't jump unless you have the Q fuel for it. You could use the Hydrogen fuel but it would take like forever to go across the system.

[elfin rune]

I mean theres a way, a formula, so i can know with stuff like erkul how long can i travel?

X qd + Y ship ?

[sacred raptor]

erkul actually shows you that

[elfin rune]

Where? Which stat? Theres a lot of numbers

[sacred raptor]

on the QT drive when you select it when fitting a ship. "max distance"

[steep wedge]

anyone can help me understand cargo in mustang alpha please ?

[ancient forum]

I've never messed with cargo. I have a Titan and I'm out at the Xeno event. I have 8 cargo "capacity". My titan can certainly hold more than 8 of those supplies. How does that work and what happens if I put in 9+?

[sacred raptor]

the "capacity" is SCU. standard cargo unit
those xeno boxes are 1/8 scu

you can add as much as you can fit. the "capacity" listed for each ship is just the actual grid

[ancient forum]

Ah, thanks. Good to know.

[grave scarab]

hey, any tools for finding a good cargo route?

[pastel flame]

SC Trade Tools

[grave scarab]

but thats only theoretical right?

used it once and it was liek go there and buy 174 Scu of agricium there, but there were only 23 avalaible

[pastel flame]

Yes. But the reality is there's no sleuthing out some secret route someone hasn't found yet. For legal your best bet is Laranite/Titanium mix, if you're willing to be more enterprising, running drugs is another decent option.

There's some midtier stuff like stims and scrap

[sacred raptor]

i believe trading resources are shared across all servers as a backend service. if multiple people are running the same route even on different servers, they are pulling from the same resource pool

which is why running popular resources and routes is so difficult

laranite, for example, is usually hard to come by and you may have to wait some while stock ticks up

[elfin rune]

i see 115Mkm

how long its the longest distance?

[sacred raptor]

it's like 50 something across stanton

stanton is a small system though

5AU across

Pyro for example is like 13 AU across

[elfin rune]

huh,ty

[candid stratus]

@sacred raptor how often outposts restock?

[sacred raptor]

idk. never timed it

5-10 mins maybe?

[candid stratus]

thank you

[ionic oasis]

jumptown is enabled rn right?

or was it disabled for XT

[sinful tundra]

I am debating upgrading from my cutty to a connie taurus after having some spare credits just sitting around. The plan is to use it as a missle boat / cargo hauler for ore. Or is it worth it to just save the money and buy something else later? I already have to grind out 2m for a prospector alone, feels like it will help already having a good ship like that for hauling and solo missions

[ionic oasis]

can't go wrong with a connie tbh. just be ready for the air whale handling

[sacred raptor]

jumptown hasn't been on for a while

at least the event. the lab may pump out drugs without the bonus idk

[ionic oasis]

Ah ok. Thanks for the info. That's what I was thinking

[opal gale]

how is cargo hauling these days? is it still mostly waiting around

[daring horizon]

Does anyone know why Laranite and titanium are in the can’t sell section and locked when I try to sell at port olisar?

[jovial matrix]

Don’t try and sell to a space station like PO, sell at a TDD (trade and development division) in one of the four cities

[elfin rune]

I think its a stock issue, the stations doesnt buy high ammounts of materials, thats why the tdd could have worst price but buy way more

[sinful tundra]

Something seems wrong, the trade tools all seem to be way off of what the prices are currently

[mossy palm]

XT is messing with servers, and site prices depend if people are reporting changes.

[ionic oasis]

can you tell what each SCU of cargo is just based on what the SCU box looks like?

or would i need to go to a kiosk to check inventory

[mossy palm]

You could before 3.18. But not sure about it now. While there are differemces between boxes, they are not nearly as obvious as in 3.17.

Yeah, best bet would be checking kiosks.

[ionic oasis]

got it. thanks

[vestal ravine]

Yea you have to careful with the information on Trade Tools site.

[stable dust]

Anyone know if this is a bug? Landed at Area 18 with 11SCU of recycled composite, managed to sell 1 but the remaining 10 show out of stock on the ship

[cinder hamlet]

I have had it where I was able to sell some. And when I did it shifted the rest out of the cargo area. I had to go out of hanger out of area 18 and reset the cargo. Then I was able to sell it.

[sinful tundra]

Is there any place that is reliable?

UEXcorp?

[fiery quail]

I'm trying to sell drugs at Brio's. I can select my ship but it does not display my ships cargo. I have selected different inventories and re logged to no avail. Any other troubleshooting?

Is there anywhere else I can sell the cargo if not Brio's?

[fiery quail]

I still need help with this ^ if anyone knows, that'd be greatly appreciated. I have no money because I only have cargo lol

[stable dust]

I always default back to Grim Hex if I cant sell at Brios due to bugs e.t.c. It's a slow process as demand is low but you can store the ship and sell eventually

At least secure that profit

[fiery quail]

How and where do you sell at grim hex?

@stable dust

i'm already at grim hex so does the ship need to be stored or in a hanger for me to sell from it?

[stable dust]

I always store it as its a slow process

When you've stored it head down the elevators, head to the room called Admin

[fiery quail]

oh nvm...

it shows as destroyed now

so

no more monies

what a great game lol I now only have 2444aUEC

I was gonna make back over 200,000 on that run too, that sucks mega ass

[stable dust]

sure its destroyed? Send a screenshot of the trading screen at GH

[fiery quail]

oh yeah, it said destroyed, I had to make a claim on it

[ionic wedge]

Rip

Well, that’s why you don’t pour all your money into it at once.

[fiery quail]

well aint really got no choice when you aint got much in the first place

[vestal ravine]

Hello. I have a sort of cheat sheet on the Vice Trades. Let me know if you want a .doc format copy via DM. Sorry this happened to you.

This info is from another forum but I have not seen the IC ticket for it yet. It concerns the C2 which a lot of us fly. Here is the posting: ..."When I sold, it did not give me the aUEC. its a bug. I believe its caused when the server is overloaded. I think related to when you sell it does not report the correct number of SCU of the commodity. This has happened twice to me. There is a IC ticket on it.
[1:09 AM]
It should be added, this seems to only happen in the C2... which is the same for others who reported the same."

[vestal ravine]

Yes UEXcorp is good also. The buying and selling prices can slightly fluctuate plus there are "Commodity Price Alerts" we see in the game. I use both sites really.

[fiery quail]

sure that'd be great, much appreciated

[vestal ravine]

ok check dm...

[fallen burrow]

Can I get that too if you don’t mind, my friends just started and I want to help them get financially independent lol

[daring ginkgo]

Would also be appreciated if you could send it this way. I am new to the game and bought a Connie to run some trade routes

[vestal ravine]

Ok I will send the cheat sheet to you and Savoroot also. It might be safer to avoid large credit outlays until Xeno is over.

[proud heron]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[uncut otter]

Im new and am wondering if the flight recorders you can get from wrecks are worth any money and where i'd sell them

[vestal ravine]

From what I know about store bought items you take them back to a store that originally sells them. You can use item finder to discover that info. Then there is Subscriber items which may be harder to sell. The Flight Recorder seems to be Mission item to be found and turned in or either kept as a souvenir. Item Finder could not find the item. It may be sellable on the Grey Market. It's up to you.

[delicate girder]

So what is this latest glitch I've been hearing about in 3.18.2? Don't want any detail on how to do it. Just interested the general kind of gameplay it's part of and if it's as bad as the last one(s) in 3.18 and 3.18.1.

[vestal ravine]

I will check Spectrum. Curious to. Looked over 4 pages under "General" did not see anything.

[mortal rain]

Anyone know of a workaround for when your cargo grid doesn't show the blue ghost to place a crate?

[pastel flame]

up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, b, a, select, start

[delicate girder]

lul

[delicate girder]

I didn't find anything either. I hope it's that there isn't a good exploit for a change!

[pastel flame]

There is sadly

[analog wraith]

Hey, if anyone wants to, I've created a page on the wiki for [[trade]] If anyone wants a quick way to make edits and wants to participate in the wiki competition, your expertise is welcomed 🙂

[alpine orbit]

https://starcitizen.tools/Trade

[analog wraith]

(your expertise is welcomed regardless)

[fallen burrow]

you might want to have a mention of chasing the commodity price updates for overstock and understock

[analog wraith]

How do you mean? I know that overstock makes prices down for sell and up for buy and under goes the other way around but what is meant by “chase”?

[fallen burrow]

They update every 8-10 minutes so for low volume traders that don’t want to run drugs it’s a pretty good way to make money

Buy at an overstock, sell at an understock, and when it updates go to the next overstock

[analog wraith]

Thanks

[analog wraith]

What do you think about this?

[fallen burrow]

You can also mention that the updates can be found in the journal tab of the mobiglass menu

But yeah that looks good

[analog wraith]

🙂

[fallen burrow]

Also what contest?

[analog wraith]

https://starcitizen.tools/Event:SCTools_Edit_Drive_and_Giveaway

[fallen burrow]

Oh rad

Good luck!

[analog wraith]

I’m kinda doing it just for fun, but we’ll see. Would be cool to get something like a vulture out of it

[subtle narwhal]

Is anyone else having trouble with cargo grids not showing up?

[tall jay]

where to sell waste?

[fallen burrow]

I just dump it in the ocean

[vestal ravine]

From the recent "GermanyCon" SC convention yes to improvements to commodity prices and for distance traveled.

[vestal ravine]

I had few problems before the recent troubles so once again wait until past May 2nd.

[fresh abyss]

just put cargo into my cutlass from refinery to sell to tdd. Once I got there it doesn't show that I have any cargo on board. Any fix?

[fresh abyss]

ahhh i think this may have happened to me

[elfin rune]

Guys fast discussion, cat vs c2

Shoot

[clever hamlet]

c2

[elfin rune]

Why? Xd

[ionic wedge]

You said fast discussion..,

The C2 holds more but the Cat has more firepower

[elfin rune]

Speed and flight? C2 better?

[rocky abyss]

Hey all, is it possible to loot a load of individual fruits and other consumables from bunkers and then sell them somewhere??

[ionic wedge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/r281en/caterpillar_vs_hercules_c2_whats_your_favorite/
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/t5bab4/caterpillar_vs_hercules_c2/
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/y06jwi/c2_hercules_or_caterpillar/
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/e1rznt/caterpillar_vs_c2_starlifter/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsmXJO0UaFQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0uC20SFlsg

3 second Google search

[elfin rune]

real hero here,thanks

[stable dust]

Check SC trade tools it shows where they can be sold

[spare cloud]

be your own hero, use !erkul ⬇️

[wary tusk]

#DPSCalculator

• Calculator • Shops • Ships • Weapons •

[fallen burrow]

Is laranite/titanium really the only high volume trade route?

[hazy oriole]

pretty much

it pays good

thats all that matters

[fallen burrow]

It does pay good but its so hard to find a good amount of laranite because everyone is running it

[rough ingot]

holy fuck almost just got pirated. Wasnt paying attention and was just waiting for restocks dude came in and gatted me. Didnt waste any time insta backspaced hopped in my glad and flew back asap.
by the time i got there he shot my ramp open but went back to his own ship for something so i just ran up the ramp and took off

checking the hold it looks like he took none or almost no boxes

1.3m of drugs in an a2, saved

only thing i lost was the gear but i couldnt care less about that

[zenith maple]

nice save

[rough ingot]

😅

[jovial matrix]

Respect for going back and being ready to fight

[rough ingot]

since inventory equipping is a huge problem i just threw on a white suit and custodian smg as fast possible lmao

also doing this while waiting on elevators

just made the sale and locked in a 350k profit, infinitely better than being minus 1.3m lmao

[wary tusk]

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Please contact us via <@&712727427427860531> instead of @'ing all of the mods in the future if it is not an emergency, thank you.

With love, r/starcitizen mod team

[hollow peak]

👍

[primal veldt]

Anyone can send the perfect video for cargo and trading for idiots? Cant find one xD

[pliant stump]

where can i sell stolen cargo?

[spare cloud]

GH

[pliant stump]

ty

[teal otter]

How much cargo space does a taurus have?

its 174 or 96 SCU?

[spare cloud]

taurus <--> andromeda

[teal otter]

so same size?

[spare cloud]

no sorry, Taurus 176 andromeda 96

[teal otter]

ah thanks

[pliant stump]

welp, went to GH to try to sell and it has a lock on it still

[vestal ravine]

Trippin, try a salvage yard also. Try both options twice on new servers. The worst case offload and carefully reload or see how May 3rd is.

[pliant stump]

gotcha, ty

[shrewd hinge]

Can commodities be stored in local inventory?

[rough ingot]

no but if you store a ship it'll still have the cargo when you spawn it again

just dont claim it

[rough ingot]

do TDD's have enough cargo for a large freighter to be efficient with, or is your only option for legal goods to spam miniing outposts

[jovial matrix]

TDD’s are the first place you should try selling at, if they don’t buy it all in one go, they’ll most likely buy the large majority

[balmy badger]

Is cargo even viable anymore?

[fallen burrow]

Laranite titanium is

[rough ingot]

im talking purchasing

like will a TDD have enough goods to fill a heavy freighter all at once or

[jovial matrix]

Ahhh, I have no idea

[tawny path]

is there a list of most profitable commodities in order or...?

[tawny path]

does anyone do the commodity price alerts? if so is it worth it?

[vestal ravine]

I think the TDD's only offer like scrap and waste.

[rough ingot]

sad

[vestal ravine]

Yea they consume everything you sell them.

[vestal ravine]

For the commodity alerts people, a few? do say they can boost your sales but you have to get on right away with the buy sell process because those update every 10 minutes. I have never messed with it.

[pastel flame]

Sc trade tools

[twin cipher]

how long does it take for your ship to store after a 30k? I have massive cargo in it and we 30k'd
i went back to my home system and it says Unknown still, been about 15 minutes

[zenith maple]

the guide says 20 min isnt unusual

[pastel flame]

And in 3.18 i've had it take hours

[coral forum]

Hello there is there any place here where cool armor is sold?

[wary tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-general-kenobi-star-wars-grevious-gif-17774326

[coral forum]

You are a bold one!

At least I know that the creator like Star Wars

[zenith maple]

if you are looking for something specific that you cant find in the ingame stores, there is a #market-street

[coral forum]

Ok then, thanks

[zenith maple]

and if you want to do the treasure hunt yourself, you can get random armor from crates at different POI locations along with bunkers and boarding missions.

[vestal ravine]

Try the Grim Hex armor shop...

[elfin rune]

does anyone know why cant i use the RAFT storage as regular cargo? cant load anything there

not from tdds and not from refinery

[stable dust]

Quick one regarding restocks at outpost terminals, does the stock refresh whilst logged into the screen? Or is it better to keep leaving and re-entering the terminal?

[stable dust]

Maybe it works the same way as the prospector? Only holds mined material.

[elfin rune]

The raft its a hauler

[rough ingot]

does 30king yourself work for 30k protection
had like 8bwin in a server and couldnt do anything so i disconnected from the internet until 30k, i tried to rejoin so i would just be standing where i dc'd but ofc shit game puts me in diff server

[chrome finch]

whats the best trading route?

[spare cloud]

The one you create yourself. Best trade routes are the worst. They're the most common trade routes and that's where you're expected to be by pirates.

[mental ether]

Hey, I am having troubles by accessing terminals in Centermass in MT. No item is shown? Known issue? Did anyone experience the same?

[exotic steppe]

whats a good starter cargo ship i should save for?

[elfin rune]

how far do you want to save? cause you could start with a C2 xd

[rough ingot]

auec or real $

also

SO MUCH UNUSED SPACE IN THE A2

[jovial matrix]

Would be no reason to buy a C2 if it had the same cargo space as an A2, they gotta balance it somehow

[rough ingot]

yeah i know ive said it before there has to be tradeoffs otherwise it'd be undisputed king

but only going 2 tall when it can go 4 and also having like 5 feet between where the grid ends and bomb area begins

if they dont wipe 3.19 I'm going to get a c2 filled with drugs

[elfin rune]

[rough ingot]

if they do wipe i'll be mega madge

[pastel flame]

I'd anticipate a wipe

[rotund prairie]

are there locations where youc an buy cargo that aren't listed on sc trade tools?

[rough ingot]

my hand was forced into making a bold, daring, arguably toxic move

i showed up to jt for some delicious slam and encountered a man floating in the air next to it in a taurus with drugs in it ,not paying attention, typing in chat

knowing that im in a herc and can never solo kill a constellation even when i have the drop on him i had to make a decision

i flexed my massive hull health pool and slammed into him full speed

[fallen burrow]

Hey man that just broadens your profit margins

[rough ingot]

I then took the ketamine that survived the wreckage

[fallen burrow]

niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice

[rough ingot]

Lmao

[fallen burrow]

all's fair in the drug trade

[rough ingot]

I'd rather not ram but it's literally impossible for an unmanned herc to take on a constellation thats airborne

Gotta do what you gotta do

[fallen burrow]

Ramming is a fair and valid tactic

no matter what the pvp elitists will tell you

[full mantle]

pfft no rules in pvp - as long as it fits within the EULA - pew pew

[fallen burrow]

Exactly

[rough ingot]

yeah its not against tos to ram someone out in the wild but i just dont like it

[twin cipher]

whats the best drive to put on the connie taurus

XL-1?

[pastel flame]

You got it

[lilac iris]

Anyone selling a vanguard?

[spare cloud]

Ships can't be sold by players for aUEC. If you're willing to buy for real money, head to grey market. This kind of activity is forbidden here

[lilac iris]

Was more for auec

Didn’t realise you couldn’t. Looking to use new deal but terminals aren’t working for me

[spare cloud]

Try server hop. Servers are working quite good rn. It shouldn't be too hard to find a working terminal.

[lilac iris]

Ok thanks

[rough ingot]

little wannabe pirate thought he was gonna steal my ship by busting open the rear ramp and flying in

[cinder hamlet]

Does anyone use the raft to run routes?

[elfin rune]

Afaik you cant use the raft, cant load it

[fallen burrow]

That’s a bold strat

[vernal palm]

Why can't I sell?

[cinder hamlet]

Even buying at a terminal?

[elfin rune]

i couldnt

[cinder hamlet]

Bummer

[naive vapor]

is this a bug the prices arent matching here at all. bought for 100k selling for 18k when it should sell for 180k

Medical supplies selling less than distilled spirits lol

[vestal ravine]

Use the slider and sell one scu see what happens or relog and try again...

[naive vapor]

yeah ive relogged twice now. it sells the whole 64scu load for 19k

it genuinely looks like theres a decimal in the wrong place

[vestal ravine]

This glitch might be on Spectrum.

[shut isle]

its marked as stolen

gotta sell at grim

[chrome finch]

Whats a good route for cargo?

[zenith maple]

depends on what you want to buy/sell, how much money you want to spend and what you are flying. https://sc-trade.tools/home

[shut isle]

with the new mining changes it looks like materials are getting price changes, do yall think that will effect us as cargo haulers or just for the mining junkies?

[elfin rune]

When i cargo i dont move minerals so

[vestal ravine]

I heard cargo/trade items getting adjustments also but I thought that was for mineables only. Confused. I don't play the other PTU patches. So after all the mess with Xeno I had a perfectly normal trade run last night! But now Jumptown is back!!

[long cave]

hello i have a question, can you rent a catapillar in game?

[vernal palm]

Yeah that was it, had that figured out yesterday. It's weird how we've got wrecks persistent now, and one of them that I came across had these strewn about, I picked them up. I was NOT aware that counts as "stealing". Like, what.
Sold at a scrapyard, not at Grim tho. 4 boxes, 19k Uees.

[spare cloud]

no, !erkul and !itemfinder tell you what you can rent or not ⬇️

[wary tusk]

#DPSCalculator

• Calculator • Shops • Ships • Weapons •

Universal Item Finder

Use the website to search for any item (and where to buy them) in-game.

[vernal palm]

Didn't we once have the Cat as a rentable a few years ago, or am I imagining things?

[spare cloud]

I think it was in 3.13

[vernal palm]

Yeah, right? I'm always confused why we don't, to this day, because of that.

[spare cloud]

That's cracked, get started in the game, play 5 minutes and rent a cat to make money like wtf, where's the game ? But ig pure traders can only dream of this

[modern agate]

Does CIG still let us park our big ships at the city's orbital and sell from there?

[jovial matrix]

I mean, you can try to sell commodities at space stations, but they don’t buy very much of anything

You’d have to go land at the city and go to the TDD to be able to sell in mass

[north oyster]

No, they closed that loop back in 3.16 I think

It was handy

[burnt storm]

anyone looking for help?

[proven bay]

is a freelancer MAX a good starter cargo hauler?

[zenith maple]

its not the biggest thing, but to get started, and be able to do more than just cargo, its a great ship

[proven bay]

is there anything not Hercules thats good for hauling cargo or just that line of ships

[marble crater]

Drake Caterpillar is a worse alternative to the Herc but still useable for Cargo

Cargo missions in the future will help out smaller ships like the Max/Connie

[pastel flame]

Unfortunately for legal cargo C2 is vastly better than any alternative. When you're running drugs you get a lot more opportunities to diversify.

[green sentinel]

Can a Cyclone fit in an Avenger Titan?

[jovial matrix]

no, the only vehicle that reliably fits in a titan is the PTV

[green sentinel]

@jovial matrix Ok, thanks for the info.

[rough ingot]

!fits

[wary tusk]

Can it fit?

Credit goes to u/KriLL3 on reddit

[rough ingot]

And a nox and kinda dragonfly

[jovial matrix]

nox tends to explode sometimes when trying to put it in or take it out, and last time I tried the dragonfly wouldn't fit

[rough ingot]

The nox thing is probably just a collision bug specific to the titan bc ik from experience

Taking scu boxes out of that hold is very dangerous

Loves to clip into the ramp then explode the ship

[jovial matrix]

the cargo bay is also tiny and very cramped

[pastel flame]

The titan ramp can get really skeezy. Glad it has 2 entry/exit

[uneven flicker]

Can I buy and sell drugs using someone elses ship?

[spare cloud]

No

[uneven flicker]

Thank you

[north oyster]

The ship functions more like "key field" where ownership of cargo/stuff is determined by the fact it is in the ship. If you can move the stuff to your ship, then you can sell it (at least at GH's "ask no questions" terminal)

[stoic isle]

With the new patch (ptu) what’s the best goods to be buying/selling?

Heard gold/diamond went up, but haven’t tested myself to see if they’re more valuable than Laranite

[north oyster]

No one has the complete details except maybe Jack Axton. He did a broadcast yesterday with commodities listings and profit

[stoic isle]

Appreciate any and all insight anyone’s gathered. Even if it’s just one or two suggestions/tips. Lost all my $ when I had a c2 full of cargo when the last patch came out, so want to get it back as effectively as possible.

[clever hamlet]

anyone have one of their hercs front bay doors refuse to open? I had right bay door open but the left stayed stuck but ramp still came out

even after repairing

[vestal ravine]

I have seen the new trade figures.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QD8xKTrBzNnfRZ12QaHnDw-eOxhmWseDCau0TxgpxnE/htmlview

Not final...

[sinful tundra]

experiencing a weird bug where I can't buy or sell good since no cargo terminal can see my ship's cargo grid or inventory. Is there a workaround to this bug, or a fix?

[hollow sedge]

Hey, can someone please tell me why i cant seem to be able to sell my laranite cargo on lorville anymore? This new cargo system is fresh for me, never seen it. Whats changed?

[shell edge]

@hollow sedge Have you selected the correct cargo-grid inside your Corsair?

[shell edge]

I got that bug in PTU 3.19, where my cargo grid was gone, and I went to the admin office at the same place, and while I could not sell my commodity there, the cargo grid was visible, and when I then tried the TDD terminal again, it worked for me. Might be worth a shot.

[spring prism]

New and more randomized Box Delivery Missions are coming... you are [not] prepared --

-- 3,000 aUEC (1x Box)
-- 6,000 aUEC (2x Boxes)
-- 9,000 aUEC (3x Boxes)
-- 12,000 aUEC (4x Boxes)
-- 15,000 aUEC (5x Boxes)

Pick up and drop-off locations are all randomized now. No more "Drop off all at one place" or "Pick up all at one place."

[limpid bay]

Ironically, this would work good in a squad of delivery ships

[radiant plank]

that's bad

that's awful even

in time i will spend fucking flying from pickup point a to pickup point b i can do bunker mission and get 15k

[limpid bay]

I mean yeah solo I see no reason to ever do more than the 1 package run because 4 times 5 is 20k

[limpid bay]

The reward isn't great but I use it to gather gear from the mining zones, I have a entire settlements worth of food, a personal clothing store, and enough multi tools and attachments to supply a army of miners.

For me I enjoy it cause it is chill, and no risk like the 350k I lost to a 30k error

[limpid bay]

also, there is a unique bunker hybrid delivery where it's worth 45k where you need to deal with enemies as well as gather packages from the sight

[radiant plank]

i know, the drugs one

[spring prism]

Might as well do Hadanite mining with a ROC >_> Which is why I can't wait for the C1.

[limpid bay]

No it isn't a drug one, it's only when you get max rep and it's literally a bunker mission where the second you get a box enemies will spawn and you need to deal with them as well as gather the packages.

Fun interaction I had was some players had just done the bunker and was still there and I legit panicked hard cause I never seen ai jump and have back packs XD

[radiant plank]

oh

[limpid bay]

Don't worry though, it's broken 😛 every time I tried I just gather the lose guns from the loot crates. And it has a very good loot tabel. Got 2 railguns and a sniper in a single one. Downside is abandoning it drops you down a whole rep stack so you gotta do 2 simple box missions to get that back.

I did learn the packages are just unmarked but it's very counterintuitive as to what you actually need. And if you deliver out of order it won't accept the package and I after a lot of work had one servers drop of point entirely jammed and unusable

Then it 30k'ed

[rough ingot]

I've experienced this once recently but chalked it up to damage. Guess it might've not been that since you said you repaired

[clever hamlet]

Came back next day and retrieved, it was magically fixed.

[clever hamlet]

Is this the hurston one? I was grinding rep to get this mission because I heard this mission spawns those elite hurston guards that have that awesome looking armor.

[limpid bay]

Unsure personally, I always work at arc Corp. But I believe the delivery service is a universal one that applies to all planets. Specifically in the delivery section

[spring prism]

No, each Box Delivery Service is per planetary system. You can't get UDM at Hurston for Instance. You also cannot get box delivery missions at all whatsoever if you're not within the orbit of the farthest moon in said planetary system. (IE: When you see "Entering Jurisdiction: Microtech")

[compact viper]

Does selling waste do anything? Selling it to a refinement center sounds like it would turn it into stock of something better

[spring prism]

No

[limpid bay]

Really? Odd I swear I never seen another delivery service in the rep sheet or does it not get added till you do the first entry level job?

[spring prism]

Yes, you have to do an evaluation mission in every single planetary zone. Doing the UDM Eval mission around Microtech won't unlock missions in Hurston for instance, you still have to do the eval mission around Hurston.

[spring prism]

@limpid bay Once you get to Rank 2, Runner, you can do the 45k mission again. The other non-hostile missions don't change, however.

[valid cape]

Is commodity trading the best money making Method in sc?

[jovial matrix]

Definitely not, running high and critical threat combat beacons with a Corsair/connie/retaliator would be the best

[valid cape]

Cause I’m pretty new, I started with a titan and I want to start making money reliably

I want to but a redeemer and eventually a carrack

[fallen burrow]

Run bunkers

[jovial matrix]

I second that, bunkers are good

[rough ingot]

Lmaoo had an incident a bit ago where I was selling my full a2 of drugs at brios and as I was getting ready to leave a nomad pulls up

I hid behind some cover and shot him as soon as I saw him

He backspaced immediately and came back in a blade

I had my herc full power to shields and literally just loaded his cargo into my ship while he was shooting it and just facetanking

He had the bright idea of getting low to the ground and shooting directly into my open front bay, so I climbed up the ladder, got into the seat and then slammed him into the ground by coming up just a few feet then boosting into him downwards

He blew a gasket in chat saying p2w when I bought my herc with uec

[pure pulsar]

best / most up-to-date website for finding trade routes?

[spare cloud]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[torn pilot]

hi i am new to trading, i rented an andromeda and now i want to trade slam

is this stategy to make money legit?

[mossy canyon]

You can make money doing that if that is what you enjoy doing, but it is certainly not the most efficient way to make credits.

[torn pilot]

@mossy canyon what is the most efficient?

[pure pulsar]

Ty!

[elfin rune]

Check the website above for routes materials etc

[torn pilot]

can someone help me with trading? pls

i am at private property , noone is here but the stock is like 3 slam

10 minutes now

[zenith maple]

!tradetools will give options and locations on what to run depending on what ship you plot in, and the money you want to spend. I also suggest using youtube for guides. There is also !guide to find someone to guide you ingame, and you could also try your luck in #looking-for-session

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[torn pilot]

@zenith maple is it normal to have only just 3 scu of slam?

@zenith maple do they regenerate bit by bit?

[zenith maple]

I have absolutly no idea. never dealt in slam.

[rough ingot]

When it comes to trading every outpost (legal or not) all pull from 1 region wide stock

So at places like private property, yes it's normal because it's a common location for people to visit and someone else on a different server recently went there and bought the supply

[mossy canyon]

Hi, as was already mentioned using SC Trade tools is helpful, however, IMHO trade is not an effective way of making money when you are just starting out, although it is fun. It takes money to make money when it comes to trade. Laranite can be profitable when bought/sold in large quantities. I haven’t run trade lately and most likely won’t until I have a few million I can afford to lose if things go wrong. Until then it is mining and salvage which I also enjoy a great deal.

[fallen burrow]

You love to hear it

[rough ingot]

[fallen burrow]

Same people that cry about a2 griefing at jumptown

I love it

[spring prism]

3.19 Commodity Leaks and speculation for the very near future.

[upbeat merlin]

Best way to deal in drugs is make 2 or 3 stops at different drug terminals then bulk sale

I sell like 40 scu worth of drugs and make 40-50k profit

[stable dust]

It’s risk and reward drug running. The one that worked for me was running Nuen Waste Management > Brios Breaker Yard on Daymar. In a Nomad it seemed to be the right balance as there was typically not enough stock to fill it, and because it’s one short hop over it’s a very quick run.

[north oyster]

Changes in Pricing for 3.19 ore commodities (not sure if just mining)

Resource	3.18	3.19
Quantanium	88	251.5
Gold	6.41	77.54
Taranite	35.2	76.86
Bexalite	44	78.23
Diamond	7.36	44.53
Borase	35.2	36.23
Laranite	31.01	31.14
Beryl	4.35	27.56
Hephaestanite	15.84	27.52
Agricium	27.5	25.98
Titanium	8.9	5.11
Copper	6.16	3.84
Corrundum	2.7	3.85
Quaretz	1.56	3.92
Aluminum	1.31	3.32
Tungsten	4.05	4.14

[vestal ravine]

Poor Laranite lol

[limpid bay]

Dang now a lot more commodities are gonna become viable for trade it looks like

[rough ingot]

oh cool legal goods might be worth hauling rather than only drugs

[modern agate]

daym quant be pricey
gold might actually be worth mining?

[north oyster]

Both mine and trade

[rough ingot]

Do mining outpost sell quant or is it only mining yourself

[fallen burrow]

Only mining yourself

[fallen burrow]

So what you’re saying is liquidate all my assets into gold and wait until the price jumps

Gold to the moon 💎🤲🏻💎🤲🏻💎🤲🏻

[rough ingot]

wait this actually is a genius idea if they dont item wipe lmao

[zenith maple]

I want player warehouses, so we can stuck up on things at low price, and then sell it when we feel like it or when the price goes high

[north oyster]

Let's not confuse RL with SC 🙂

[fallen burrow]

GOLD IS KING

[blazing zenith]

can the black market terminals refresh when you have it open or do you need to X out and re-enter if there's a refresh?

[rough ingot]

It'll update while you're staring at it

[north oyster]

Excited about the prospects for trade and commerce with 3.20 ... dare I say "quanta"? (or more implementation of Quanta, since it has actually been in game to some degree for several patches ... very limited)

[elfin rune]

What?

[north oyster]

With the MISC Hull C coming, they can't leave trade and cargo "as is" because that ship is way beyond the current infrastructure in the game

[elfin rune]

[fickle moth]

I don't quite get trading, I hear that running illicit goods is good money but I have never once arrived at a terminal that has more than 5 SCU worth of illicit goods

does anyone have any tips for getting going?

[shut isle]

do the crusader moon loop, NXT on cellin, jump town on yella, private properdy on yela, then sell at brios breaker yard 60-120k ez 15 min

need about 300k to buy in though

[fickle moth]

private property on yela is completely empty every time I go there

maybe 3-5 scu top

[shut isle]

i ran drugs during jump town when it wasnt on yela so i wouldn't be bothered and other drug runners were sucking each other off at other JT places, also means slam and widow were maxed out about 10-25 each place

[vestal ravine]

Hi, I have a tip sheet I can dm you if you want.

[pale bloom]

seems like they are buffing gem patches in .19

[vestal ravine]

In the StarrStreams recent video a 16 count gemstone patch was noted along with a few others over 12 count. But will they transcend to the real test in the PU???

[olive basin]

is titanIum trading good?

[patent crater]

If you are low on money yes. Titanium is usually the backup trade when you cannot fill on Laranite. So if possible when trading fill on Laranite then fill rest with Titanium.

[olive basin]

so should i trade Laranite

[patent crater]

Yes, how many credits do you have?

[olive basin]

how much money do ineed for laranite tradingf

2mil

wanna spend around 500k to 1mil at most

[patent crater]

The usual profit margins are not that big its more about cr/h. It'll usually cost you anywhere from 500k to 700k depending on the amount of Laranite available.

I tend to trade using Arial hit up HDMS Lathan or HDMS Bezdek then fly to Lorville and circle.

The profit is usually anywhere from 80k to 130k depending on the amount of Laranite available.

[olive basin]

ook

[patent crater]

The risk ranges from 600 to 800k.

This is assuming you have a C2.

What ship are you flying?

[olive basin]

yes c2

[patent crater]

Heres a sample trade.

[olive basin]

should i only buy refined laranite

no raw laranite?

[patent crater]

Hmm, I only ever had the option of one are you at the terminal?

[olive basin]

nah bro im on sc trade tools

and it says raw and normal

[patent crater]

I believe its raw then you purchase it

If you wish to check some easier data try this website: https://uexcorp.space/

[olive basin]

ok

thx

[patent crater]

No problem 🙂

[jovial matrix]

Raw laranite is referring to laranite that has been mined and not refined, the other non-raw laranite is the commodity you buy at terminals as well as mined laranite that has been refined

[olive basin]

ah ok

[olive basin]

wher tf is this?

can somebody pls help?

[jovial matrix]

R&D is reclamation and disposal on hurston

Rayari cantwell is on microtech

[civic elm]

Is a Connie Taurus large enough to be worth running cargo in?

[jovial matrix]

Yes

[vestal ravine]

Yesterday I cleared 117,000k on a full load of Titanium via my C2.

[olive basin]

damn

[cinder hamlet]

@vestal ravine where do you sell titanium?

[vestal ravine]

At any of the TDD areas on the major planets.

[vestal ravine]

see above posting...

30 minutes ago I screwed up a landing at Lorville with the Hull A. The ship got wedged in a undercut area and I had a full load of Laranite at 177K. I was able to get out of that area but the ship's performance was off kilter. Then I tried to land in a bay with the darker blue opening it was next to my real hanger. After that I just left the whole damn place and made it to Port Everus. The easiest landing pads for me is at Orison. When my brain recovers will take the goods there. I still like the ship, it's like a little toy thing.

[daring horizon]

2 questions! What is a good SC website to track trade prices and profit counting and pretty much anything else with trade? And how long does it take for stock to replenish? I sat at a site for like 10 minutes waiting and the stock was just sitting at 3 SCU and very low inventory so I know it goes up more. Thank you!

[toxic citrus]

Stock replenishment varies per site, some restock faster, some restock less

[daring horizon]

Thank you. So is there anything that tells me how long per site so I’m not sitting there like a goober waiting for my ship to get blown up lol

[toxic citrus]

I highly doubt any sites follow stock accurately

[daring horizon]

Okay thank you!

[spring prism]

Cargo Crate Model leaks ||1 SCU to 32 SCU. Each one is double the previous for 1 to 16.||

[rough ingot]

FILL MY HULL C WITH DRUGS

[elfin rune]

Hoho a step closer to 32scu containers

[fallen burrow]

This math don’t check out, pretty sure ||that’s a 24 between the 16 and 32||

[spring prism]

That's why I said ||1 to 16, and not 1 to 32.||

[fallen burrow]

Ohhhhhhhhhhh didn’t quite understand that part mbad

I do like they have a ||halfway step between 16 and 32 tho||

[spring prism]

We're likely getting them in 3.20 for the Hull C specifically, as when a full single row is filled, it will become a 32 SCU Container.

[fallen burrow]

It’ll make the c2 look better when filled up too

[spring prism]

You probably won't be able to hand tractor the ||16, 24|| or 32 SCU Crates with the multi tool.

[fallen burrow]

What about tractor gun?

[spring prism]

Definitely will be able to, since that's what it's made for. The Tractor gun has an actual tractor beam similar to a ship's, which is that big circle thing at the front.

[fallen burrow]

Ohhhh gotcha

[elfin rune]

That containers would come with the amazing srv?

Or svr

[spring prism]

SRV would be able to tractor them, for sure. So would most ships with tractor beams. (315p, Taurus, etc.)

[elfin rune]

Hoho good news

[bleak apex]

Am I missing something, or is trading pointless? It seems like nothing is actually produced in enough volume to be worth it. The SCU/Min is incredibly low for most goods I've found.

[fallen burrow]

I made a shitton running drugs and other stuff in the ptu

[bleak apex]

Ah, I'm not on PTU. I checked a couple places and they were mostly empty

[fallen burrow]

Live, laranite and titanium are pretty much the only high volume commodities that are worthwhile

[bleak apex]

Laranite was the best option I found around me

But the profit per unit seemed eh

So trading is improved on the PTU then?

[shell edge]

I am collecting some data in a spreadsheet atm, and I guess several are, since the prices are no longer minable from the client files.

Beryl will be a pretty popular commodity I think: Selling for 2815/SCU in Orison, you can purchase it for around 2100-2200/SCU, so about 6-700 aUEC pr SCU, and it also have a few places where the stock levels are 30000 SCU.

[elfin rune]

What about super common things like meds or food?

[shell edge]

lets see, I haven't been to the places producing meds yet, but Medical supplies sell for 1924 pr SCU at the TDD's

Processed food is selling for 150, and purchasable for about 120, so 30 aUEC/SCU in profit, so not that much...

that is like 20k in profit for a full C2

Copied the prices I have collected so far into a google sheet, if you want it: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oBmGkGVwqVdYMZqwvAKVmFirB5Tw-GMXGiJd3QqAYmY/edit?usp=sharing

[bleak apex]

Wait you have 30000 sitting in stock? That's wild.

PTU seems way better for trading then

[shell edge]

on a few locations yes, I am not sure if is a typo for 3000 SCU, or if is supposed to be that high

[bleak apex]

Traders and miners will be eating good.

I think salvage is also getting stuff?

[shell edge]

salvage is good...you can take off ship weapons and some components, and sell them

in addition to the RMC

[bleak apex]

Even if it is a typo though, 3000 is still really good

Nearly 8 cats worth

I wonder if it's because there's fewer players, or just a buff to stock levels/per tick

[shell edge]

It is fewer players bying and selling on the PTU so you will see the max stocks and the best prices, on Live there will be more competition

[bleak apex]

hopefully it's a mix of that + stock max/tick increases

Cause atm on live there's just not much going around

[shell edge]

Some things need to change before or when Hull C arrive anyway 🙂

[bleak apex]

what's Hull C? New ship?

[shell edge]

it is scheduled for release in 3.20 (but it has been in release view before, and removed)

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/ships/hull/Hull-c

4608 SCU

but it can only move cargo between stations, and not from ground to station, or station to ground

[bleak apex]

oh intersting

too bulky to go into atmo?

[shell edge]

well, it can't land when it is loaded with cargo 🙂

[bleak apex]

...I see

I clicked the link finally lmao

I see the obvious issue now

[shell edge]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14661-A-Hull-For-Every-Job-The-MISC-Hull-Series

[bleak apex]

It does seem like the end-all be-all of hauling

I suppose it might turn hauling into a 2 person job eventually

[fallen burrow]

Here’s the size scale of all the hull series

[shell edge]

well, loading might require hiring some people 🙂

[bleak apex]

one ship to bring things into space, load up, next stop, repeat, then go to sell at station

honestly seems like a cool gameplay loop

but you'll never fil that thing with the current production rates of resources lol

[shell edge]

even with 32 SCU boxes it will take a while to fully load them

[bleak apex]

I will say, that thing looks super fragile

Like an absolute pirate "come back and kick me" sign

[shell edge]

I am not sure I would take it to Pyro 🙂

[bleak apex]

Have they mentioned anything about adjusting ship mass as you load cargo? Because realistically it seems like it'd be incredibly fast without load, and whatever the target speed is fully laden

[fallen burrow]

They have said that the hull series absolutely will need escorts

[shell edge]

although, one thing you can do with such large ships, is to make a decent buck on bulk, low-profit pr unit commodities, that are not that attractive to attack...

[bleak apex]

I mean I suppose you can plead your case in chat

It's not like pirates know what you're hauling

[shell edge]

they can scan you 🙂

[bleak apex]

Ha, I wonder if extortion would be a thing

[shell edge]

extortion is a thing

already

[bleak apex]

let you pass for $$ because at a point, that's too much for pirates to move easily

[shell edge]

although now, with PES they also have the option of take your stuff..before it was extortion or destruction

[bleak apex]

PES?

Is that a PTU thing?

[shell edge]

that items persist when your ship gets destroyed

before cargo did not survive when a ship got destroyed in any meaningful way..now cargo survives

[fallen burrow]

Persistence

It’s what broke the game at 3.18

[old fog]

I found these boxes, what are they?

[rugged axle]

Problem with hull series, is the external cargo. Literally anyone flying by and grab a box with a tractor beam and it's gone lol.

They ideally need some way to "lock" the cargo to the grids.

[fallen burrow]

I’m sure they’ll make it so you can’t take them off while shields are up

Like trying to salvage a ship

[jovial matrix]

Yeah

[rough ingot]

Successful piracy hit completed. Dropped 2 players in fps combat at brio's stole their cutlass of drugs, made the handoff in deadspace and sold in hurston

[sand token]

where do i sell cargo in the ambitious dream station

[spring prism]

Trading is changing due to changes in rarity and availability of ores in 3.19, some prices will be higher than they used to be, and, above all else, distance will play the biggest factor.

[vestal ravine]

Hi, Regular trade cargo you have to go planetside to a TDD terminal. Gems you can sell at the Admin Station on ADS site.

[round fjord]

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