industrial-professions

[covert sail]

The cockpit view is terrible

Really really bad

[upbeat merlin]

i like the interior of the freelancer

but both cutty black and freelancer have horrible vision in seat

drake ships in general have shit cockpit view

[covert sail]

True, I think the Cutty is better in terms of cockpit view, but it's still shit

[upbeat merlin]

indeed

[covert sail]

Hull-A instead has an AMAZING view

[upbeat merlin]

thats why my hauling ship of choice is a connie taurus

[covert sail]

I wanted to buy one, would you suggest it to me?

[upbeat merlin]

174 scu

2 size 5 guns and 2 size 4 guns

24 missiles

[covert sail]

I heard it's basically Andromeda with more cargo

[upbeat merlin]

a size 3 shield gen

the taurus and the andro are identical except taurus has double the cargo

so the taurus as a multirole gunship cargo ship is better

i love the thing

i can go make 80k profit off laranite in 10 minutes

in a fully loaded taurus

[upbeat merlin]

id love to suggest the taurus

its a constellation ship so

it can do everything in the game well

i think they deserve to be toned down tbh

i dont think its fair to the other ships when there is a ship that can do literally everything the same or better than everything else

and thats what the connie series does

[covert sail]

Also the price

It's relatively cheap

In terms of aUEC

3.2M

[upbeat merlin]

indeed

400k cheaper than the andro

for double cargo

and same weapons

[elfin rune]

What? How?

[upbeat merlin]

174 scu of cargo

[tranquil oyster]

Is it just me or do the box missions take a lot of time for little to no payout? Im literally having to fly 600km just to pick up something with no OM or POI to QT to..

[elfin rune]

Yes i understand thats a big cargo but, how do you earn the money. Do you transport for others, its a quest, you buy and sell in other place? Im new here idk how the game works

[upbeat merlin]

buy and sell in another place

i have 2 planets i rotate between buying and selling at both

@elfin rune

[covert sail]

You basically buy Laranite in one planet (we'll call it Planet A) and sell it in another planet (we'll call it Planet B)

In planet A buying price is lower than planet B selling price

Hence you make a profit, which is equal to selling price - buying price = profit

Let's say in Planet A Laranite is at 3.000 aUEC/SCU, and you want to buy 120 SCU in order to fill your Freelancer MAX.
To do so, you'll spend in total 3.000 x 120 = 360.000 aUEC.

Now, you travel to Planet B, where Laranite is sold at 4.500 aUEC/SCU, so the money you get by selling all 120 SCU of Laranite is 4.500 x 120 = 540.000 aUEC. THIS VALUE DOES NOT REPRESENT YOUR PROFIT.

Your actual profit is 540.000 - 360.000 = 180.000 aUEC. With a single trade route, you gained 180.000 aUEC. It takes basically around 10-15 minutes to get this done.

[desert loom]

10-15min roundtrip sounds low to me

[elfin rune]

Oooh just like in NMS, thats actually amazing

[desert loom]

buy low sell high is the basis for most trading

[elfin rune]

Every planet has its own prices? I must find the planets personally?

All those buy / sell its in the tdd or in mining posts around the planets?

My goal ingame its mining / salvaging / cargo

And maybe one day starfarer refueling

And does this have any kind of CD? Or limited stocks? Or the only limit its my cash / cargo capacity?

[formal tinsel]

best trade route for a cutlass
please?

[little stratus]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[little stratus]

^

[astral willow]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[elfin rune]

Where can i rent freelancer max? Fking love that ship and id like to test this hauling info please

[covert sail]

You can only rent the base version, the Freelancer

[elfin rune]

Damn

[covert sail]

It's still good, but it has a lot less cargo

[elfin rune]

Any advice please?

[covert sail]

Which is still more than cutlass black

How much AUEC you have?

[elfin rune]

Id like to start with 500/600k

I hope not to crash against something lol

[covert sail]

You can rent the freelancer and start trading Agricium

It's a good way to start into trading

[elfin rune]

Thank you

[covert sail]

Np!

[fallen wave]

Whats the best light cargo to carry things from the refinery?

[bitter jungle]

if I find cargo somewhere, how can I tell what it is ?

[bitter jungle]

will I lose my cargo if the ship gets stored ?

[zenith maple]

you shouldnt no

[dapper mesa]

Can i add someone to join server with? Have got alot of cargo to sell

[zenith maple]

#looking-for-session

[covert sail]

So at the end the wipe includes ships bought with aUEC right, damn

[zenith maple]

thats what we believe currently, they have not stated it directly, but since they said money and rep, ship is not included in that

[elfin rune]

In theory yes ships will fade

Time to save cash i guess

[covert sail]

3.18.1 includes an Item/***AUEC bought ship*** wipe. Rep and wallet will remain.

[bitter jungle]

the lorville train just kidnapped me

we are out in the plains 22km away from the city

calls 911

[vestal ravine]

Ha ha Space Uber Tina?

[warm vector]

1,5M to 1,9M with cargo I can sleep now

[delicate girder]

I'm very tempted to CCU my Arrow to a Hull A for now to get it and a loaner Arrow. I trust that this will work right now even though it doesn't talk about it here: https://support.robertsspaceindustries.com/hc/en-us/articles/360003093114-Loaner-Ship-Matrix

[elfin rune]

I did try cargo, but it seems some1 its 1 step or 2 in front of me, all the tp are empty

How long its the materials respawn / restock?

[final root]

I want to do some Cargo Hauling with my MSR. Anybody have some good legal routes?

[elfin rune]

I did follow a linked website but everything was out of stock

[little stratus]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[little stratus]

what exactly were you buying?

[elfin rune]

Did try with slam and later with laranite

Using the web tradetools

[vestal ravine]

If mining is going to be getting some love they should the same for trade goods respawn rates. But yea it's a grind to bring back a worthwhile profit.

[light star]

is the trade site updated for 3.18?

[little stratus]

SLAM is a drug and laranite is an extremely valuable ore

trade with less valuable stuff like titanium or diamonds

[elfin rune]

I did check it but really low profit

Im not renting a ship to earn 6k per travel

[bitter jungle]

6k is very little profit for the risk of something to go wrong, too..

[elfin rune]

Thats what i think @bitter jungle

But the website only shows really good profit or really bad

[delicate girder]

I agree. It's much less risky to do bounties, salvaging or mining.

[pastel flame]

For SLAM you will have better luck at drug labs with no quantum marker

[elfin rune]

What?

[blissful dome]

So i'm kinda getting discouraged from trading. I guess I don't know what I'm doing? Every time I go to a place to buy something, it's almost all sold on. Only a few SCU of it on there

am I just going at the wrong time?

[blissful dome]

I have the same problem

[elfin rune]

This

[formal tinsel]

is selling drugs currently a good idea

[short shore]

if you want a fight

[vestal ravine]

I think he means the three "Jumptown " sites. I don't go to those but it might be good to further test. All three involve a longer flight time. It could be worthwhile.

[pastel flame]

There are drug labs with no quantum markers

It's easy to find them by taking maintenance missions in the personal tab

[elfin rune]

idk what are u talking about xd

[vestal ravine]

The Jumptown missions are special events by CIG try searching on you tube. There are 3 sites and they have terminals for selling Vice but no qt markers.

[pastel flame]

There's more than that, I made a how to video on yt, but no point talking into the void 🙂

[vestal ravine]

There are instructions on how to find them but I could get what I needed from the other vice sites much easier.

[boreal vine]

I watch your vids 🙂

[pastel flame]

The thing is those drug terminals aren't all linked, and the QT marked sites tend to be tapped/visited more often

[sour folio]

For cargo hauling and trading, what would be better to buy, a Hull A or a freelancer? I'm just looking for a ship where I can make decent profit and just relax. I already have a Cutter which I use for mercenary missions on ground and investigations, and a arrow for BH and mercenary missions in space like claim jumpers

[ornate copper]

I took a break from combat missions to try drug running last night but apparently the cargo grid's still a little fucky, so some of them fell out when I closed the cargo bay, so I tried to open it back up and get out to get them back and then my ship blew up because physics 😌

10/10 would recommend

[jovial matrix]

freelancer

[ornate copper]

I think I made a profit once I went to get my stuff out of my dead ship but I was too busy panicking to remember how much money I started with

gonna have to try that again hopefully without the breaking physics part next time

[boreal vine]

Freelancer, I wanted to buy a hull a before pleding cutty black but the cargo space difference is too miniscule to waste money early grind on it.

While the freelancer max has 122scu, the hull a only has 46

[sour folio]

I was just on about the basic freelancer, I know the price isn't that big of a difference, also I thought the hull a was 60ish SCU? unless the wiki is telling a lie lol

I will say I only plan to do this on my own, I don't know if a lot of you do it on your own or with friends but that was my plan, it's kinda why the hull a stuck out to me

[hallow relic]

Is titanium most optimal with c2 for large load sells?

That's is. Ability to buy large amounts(I'm fine if it's at multiple places) but selling large amount as well

[tranquil oyster]

Anyone know what this is? Gives option to open then says storage unavailable.

[jovial matrix]

its a 2 SCU box

[quick marten]

Anyone can take SCUs off of a Hull A right?

[jovial matrix]

yes

[quick marten]

Thank you

[pastel flame]

Laranite/titanium mix

[boreal vine]

I thought erkul said 48

[boreal vine]

Both freelancer or Hull A can be easily solo'd. I was also looking into the Hull A as its something new but it really depends on the cargo space for me, let me rechecj

64 SCU is what I see which isnt that bad

Erkul is just incorrect

[pseudo rain]

what are these 1/8 scu boxes? i always see them at private property and jumptown

[jovial matrix]

hull A is 64

[jovial matrix]

uncut slam, not worth very much

[pseudo rain]

ah... good thing i didn't pick them all up and try to sell them at GH

[boreal vine]

Would 64scu be a good amount for running spice? Used to do it with the freelancer max before wipe, but then I had a shit ton of money

And are there any profitable trade runs atm?

[sullen spade]

well if you want to run spice you prob want a s hip that minimizes the amount of parsecs that you need to run

but if your going to run other drugs yeah 64 sku is prob good

[boreal vine]

Might just do it with the cutty I got honestly but idk man wanna have a purpose to buy a hull a

I got no issue buying it if normal trade runs pay off enough

[sullen spade]

i would say between 28-46 sku is fine keep in mind you can always just rent a cutty black ingame

[upbeat merlin]

If ur running drugs

[boreal vine]

Yes, but I got it pledged 🙂

[upbeat merlin]

Most you usually fill up

Is 30 to 40 scu

That's a lucky amount

[boreal vine]

Then I will just use the cuttt for it due to weapons

[sullen spade]

yeah cutty is all you need

[upbeat merlin]

However

If ur a a masochist like me

And flew around for hours in a Connie taurus and managed to get 174 scu of slam

And sell it at once

It's fun

[boreal vine]

Thats big money then lol

Yeah fr

How bout legal trade? Is the profit decent to do it?

[sullen spade]

legal trade need big sku for

[upbeat merlin]

Bigger ships for legal profit

Since the margins are smaller

[boreal vine]

Bigger than hull a?

[sullen spade]

yes

[upbeat merlin]

Um

Hull A is what

[boreal vine]

64scu

[upbeat merlin]

66scu?

64

Ummmm

[sullen spade]

i would say at least 200 +

for legal trade personally

[upbeat merlin]

If ur moving Laramie or agricium

[sullen spade]

otherwise the illegal trade way better for lower amounts

[boreal vine]

Thats a lot

[upbeat merlin]

U can make decent

[boreal vine]

Specific trade run you know? If so mind DMing me it?

[upbeat merlin]

My trade routes are complicated

I always make sure there is something to buy and sell when making a stop

I want to be profiting at each stop

[boreal vine]

Well thats fine by me as long ad it aint like science I gotta do or smthing

[upbeat merlin]

What ship you got

That honestly determines if it's worth doing

[boreal vine]

I got a cutty black atm but hesitant to do drug running till the game doesnt eat my upgrades. I would buy a Hull A if legal trade is worth it

[upbeat merlin]

I see

I'd do drugs tbh

[boreal vine]

Like evenly a decent amount of profit is reasonable for me as long as it aint me investing 250k just to make 20k

Yeah, I might just go to jump town and see what prices look like, and then maybe try my luck and do one run with the shitty stock cutty

[upbeat merlin]

20 to 30 scu of drugs is like a 30-40k profit

[sullen spade]

imo hull a too low sku for legal

[upbeat merlin]

U can sell drugs anywhere except hurston

I get mine from arcorp

And sell them at arcorp

Then buy Laranite from arcorp

All in the same run

[boreal vine]

Imma dm you in a second nate

Before I do that tho what ship do you use for your trading and how much profit do you make?

Gonna see if I will grind up to it in due time as I like hauling

[upbeat merlin]

I use the Connie taurus

So keep in mind I have 174 scu compared to the 46 the cutty has

So ur profits are gonna be smaller

But still consistent

[boreal vine]

Yeah but whag are yours tho with that ship

[upbeat merlin]

Um a laranite run usually brings in abt 35k profit

[sullen spade]

keep in mind for only 1 mill more you could get a cat ingame tho if doing legal

[upbeat merlin]

And the drugs are abt another 25-30

[boreal vine]

Nice

1m is a caterpillar?

[sullen spade]

no

1m more then taurus

[upbeat merlin]

True

[boreal vine]

Ooh mb lol

[sullen spade]

can make 200k a run with it

[boreal vine]

Was already xonfused

[upbeat merlin]

I only got the taurus bc of the armament

[sullen spade]

taurus way better in a scrap ye

[upbeat merlin]

It's basically still a gunship with 174 scu

[boreal vine]

I am prob gonna slowly grind my way up to either one of those and be a space trucker then

[upbeat merlin]

Cargo is relaxing man

[boreal vine]

Yeah exacrly

Drug routes the same as 3.17.5?

[sullen spade]

yeah cargo is relaxing nice to do something you can just watch youtube and do

salvaging kinda nice for that too

[boreal vine]

Yeah just aint got a vulture heh

How has pirate activity been around crusader? Only know my drug routes there

[sullen spade]

idk i do drugs in microtech

[boreal vine]

Microtech? Damn heh, can I ask which run you do in DMs as I only know crusadee

[sullen spade]

ya ill dm you

[upbeat merlin]

I've been selling medical supplies recently

Just kinda fiddling with profit margins

I lost 150k yesterday experimenting

[boreal vine]

Damn

[jovial matrix]

Nah. Tried legal trade with my hull A and made 16.6k on a full laranite haul and 20k with a 50SCU of agricium + 14SCU of clourine haul

Really gotta run drugs with it to make good money

[boreal vine]

Yeah heh

Sad though that its just that little as the hull a is a amazing looking ship, I'd really buy it IG first if smaller trade was worth a bit more

[jovial matrix]

Yeah

I would really like the hull B

[upbeat merlin]

I just

[jovial matrix]

Same kind of ship, and it can still land planetside when laden, just it can make good profit

[upbeat merlin]

Got ambushed by a crewed hurricane

1 pass was all it took for my size 5 ballistics

[boreal vine]

Ouch

[jovial matrix]

Nice lol

[upbeat merlin]

To rip it in half

[boreal vine]

For them

Im gomna hop on in a few hours and do some drug running

[upbeat merlin]

Lol I might rent my ship out to people

Be a productive member of the community for once

[boreal vine]

Would be smart tbh if it isnt buggy, wanna use my ship? 50k and its yours for a x amount of hours

[upbeat merlin]

Haha

Pretty much right

I get sad when I see people running small loads in the avenger titan and stuff

As adorable as it is seeing people with smaller ships moving cargo

I feel bad

Knowing I make 10x what they do in less tome

[jovial matrix]

renting your cargo ship out to people wouldnt even work

you have to own the cargo ship to be able to fill it

[upbeat merlin]

What if they sent you the money for the cargo and u kept the return but gave them the profit

I'm sure there could be a system there to workout

[jovial matrix]

I guess so

seems overly complicated though

[upbeat merlin]

Fjord

I fell 6000m out of a caterpillar trying to board a airborne cutty black

Don't try to talk to me abt complicated

And all u had to say afterwards was that u found ur damn turtle

[zinc ledge]

Why cant i sell?

[proud arrow]

Hello
Is it possible to sell cargo from stolen ships with out moving the cargo to my ship ?

[jovial matrix]

no

[zinc ledge]

can i not sell it becaus it is called place holder?

[jovial matrix]

theres been very frequent issues with selling RMC that you havent salvaged and that isnt sold from your vulture, so the game probably thinks its stolen

if you're nearby, then take it to grimhex. If youre not by crusader, then take it to one of the scrapyards

[zinc ledge]

ugg i loged out

it was stolen from a wreck i found

[jovial matrix]

ah so then it was actually stolen lol

assumed you were salvaging with someone and selling it with your ship

[waxen pagoda]

Question about trading terminals. I went to buy laranite which was showing as 150 SCU. As I was clicking to put it into my ship that figure went down to say 47 SCU. Is the terminals, planet, moon or system based with availability of materials? It happened a few times and there was no one else in the building with me

Or is it linked with other terminals which sell those specific materials?

[jovial matrix]

all of the servers share the same stock for each terminal

so if someone on another server is buying laranite at the same time you are, the stock on your server will go down even though nobody is there with you

[fathom brook]

Tried my hand at cargo running yesterday.... Lost everything I had and now am sitting with 15k aUEC. Redemption arc starts now

[boreal vine]

That sucks man

[waxen pagoda]

Ah that was my initial thought! Thank you for confirming. Kinda sucks really but oh well

[hallow relic]

I'm only getting like 90-100k for full load of titanium from Arial to tdd. Has there been price changes.

[boreal vine]

Self mined titanium?

And if thsts 90-100k profit thats decent

[hallow relic]

No, talking about bought cargo

[pastel flame]

No, don't expect to make great profit from cargo running. Even Drugs isn't that great, but it's better than competing with C2's and having to sell at TDD's.

[hallow relic]

Just notice last patch I made 150ish per load. So was just wondering if they changed prices

[pastel flame]

Prices fluctuate somewhat, but you'd have to consult your own records and compare to know for sure.

[hallow relic]

I'll just stick with titanium(and whatever laranite is around)

[final root]

Trading Laranite in an MSR with 114 SCU how much could I make profit? Each time I trade

[spare cloud]

about 40k

[final root]

40k more per run

[spare cloud]

for a FULL cargo

[final root]

So I’d make 150k an hour

If I have full cargo

[uneven grove]

Has anyone running legal cargo been pirated this wipe yet? If so how

[nocturne python]

Hey guys, is it better getting the caterpillar or C2? Looking at the stats the C2 seems better than the Catterpillar but i've heard a lot of good talk about the caterpillar aswell

[hallow relic]

Up to preference. If you want straight most cargo. C2. If you want industrial hauling life, cat.

[nocturne python]

Does the C2 not have more cargo space though?

[hallow relic]

Yes it has most cargo space

If you want most cargo c2. If you want the drake industrial aesthetic cat.

A bonus of the cat is the storage areas open from the side too. So if you're hand loading, that is fun.

[nocturne python]

Alright, thanks for the help

[ashen quail]

So i picked up some investigation mission "find missing crew" or something, now at the crash site there are lots of cargo boxes. Can i do something with these?

[hardy sentinel]

anyone know if tradings fucked up or something? was trying to do some hauling yesterday and both of the places i went to were appearantly "out of stock"

haven't used the new trading UI yet so i don't know if it was just user error or if there's something going on with trading as a whole

[frigid elbow]

I had the same question, but couldn't snap them into the cargo spots in the ship. so I wasn't able to tell as I took them anyway, but couldn't sell them. so not sure if bugged, or meant to be that you can't sell them. Looting the dead bodies and selling their equipment though isn't a bad idea.

[elfin rune]

Same here, everything was empty

[jovial matrix]

There’s a select few of those boxes that you can sell, however those boxes are such a small quantity of a certain commodity that you will get essentially nothing from selling them, I’m talking like less than 10 credits

[ashen quail]

bruh

alright thanks guys, wont waste my time then

[frigid elbow]

good to know so I dont waste my time again trying 🤣

those missions always bug out on me though, and I can never find the missing person or the entire crew. so I take them to get random loots lol

[jovial matrix]

Same

Don’t think I’ve ever successfully completed one

[frigid elbow]

I love the idea of those missions, but yeah.. they definitely need some work so that the proper bodies spawn, and not under the dirt or something lol. Still fun to go and do, for gear gathering and such. Usually nice and chill. decent for doing something solo with minimal risk

[bitter jungle]

does the C2 handle better than the taurus ?

[jovial matrix]

I think so

[hardy sentinel]

if they haven't fixed the weight of the C2 then yeah

it's like flying a gladius...

... that's the size of a C2

[jovial matrix]

It’s not that agile

It’s certainly really good for a large ship, but it’s not that crazy

[hardy sentinel]

not quite but u know what i mean

it feels like a lightweight ship

with just under 700SCU of cargo space lol

[jovial matrix]

Yeah

[bitter jungle]

I had wanted to buy a taurus for hauling, but then I realised I might be able to get enough money for a c2, too. And then I looked at the C2s weaponry considering if it might replace the taurus' bounty capabilities aswell, and I think it might...

but then, would it probably be better to split those things onto 2 ships instead ?

[jovial matrix]

I would prefer the taurus for bounties personally, but the C2 works fine

[hardy sentinel]

it wont

connies are unbeatable for bounties

C2 does pretty much one thing and it does it really well

[bitter jungle]

erkul looks like C2 does everything better the taurus does

how is the conni better ?

I come with a gunner btw

[hardy sentinel]

gunner is pretty much a must for a herc

[jovial matrix]

Connie has S4 guns rather than S5, so while it does less damage, it can hit at gets easier

[hardy sentinel]

connie got a lot more punch to it weaponry wise

[jovial matrix]

And if you upgrade the weapons in the connie then it does outperform the C2

And the turrets on the connie are a lot more gunner friendly

Since they got better visibility, HUD, and angles

[hardy sentinel]

if u don't mind having fixed guns on the connie then u get 2x s5 and 2x s4

[bitter jungle]

hmm, alright

I guess there no better combat-capable cargo hauler than the connie then

[hardy sentinel]

oh and missiles! Don't forget about the missiles, connie gets a bunch

[hardy sentinel]

yeah, C2 does one thing exceptionally well

Connie does a bunch of things

[bitter jungle]

I am not really sure if I would need the cargo capability of the c2... I am only transporting the occasional quant workorders

don't really want to spend all I have on it if it doesn't have any more value for me than cargo

[pastel flame]

Yeah. The c2 lets you gamble huge risk for a tepid reward.

[hardy sentinel]

but yeah, coming back to earlier, anyone know if trading's just f'd atm?

[zenith maple]

a lot of things are a bit fucked at the moment

if the server is nice and you give it some cuddles, it might let you do all the things no issue

if not, just buying a bottle of water might take you an hour

[faint blaze]

Hey guys, was wondering. So I’m running a 315 and intend to run some class a drugs. Any ships that would be worth renting if I intend to run cargo like that?

[jovial matrix]

315 is actually pretty good for drug running

[faint blaze]

Oh it is? I don’t know too much about cargo and such. I just know some routes I can take and the profit margins

Was gonna fly with a buddy when I did it to be my escort

[jovial matrix]

Yeah

Most drugs you buy in batch’s of 5-10SCU at a time, and the 315 has 12SCU, so it’s pretty perfect for it

[faint blaze]

Sick! I need to figure out what type of upgrades I could get for the ship. Don't know too much about all of the parts

I got a solid repeater setup and some good missiles in case things get bad

[jovial matrix]

Do some pve bounty missions in your 315 if you can. It’s somewhat likely you’ll encounter hostile players during your drug runs, and knowing the basics on how to fight is important

I’d reccomend upgrading shields and quantum drive as well

[faint blaze]

Definitely, kind of got a grip on combat from a few missions but would be worth it to learn more. Sounds good; thanks for the recommendation! :)

[jovial matrix]

If you have any combat related questions then definitely hit up #flight-combat-racing as well

And may you make much money running drugs :)

[faint blaze]

👍 good luck to you too!

[runic silo]

Does grim no longer have a no questions asked trade terminal?

[twin charm]

Donno if its considered "cargo" but, where/how do you find those partially destroyed ships with carbo boxes on them to snap on your ship ?

[boreal vine]

Its a chance that you find them in shipwrecks

[twin charm]

Those shipwrecks are found in missions or randomly ?

[boreal vine]

They are random for certain or player owned shipwrecks

idk if missions got it too

[pastel flame]

With cargo boxes, it's mostly players. You can find smaller boxes that you can stash on your ship without snapping in various outposts and derelicts.

[twin charm]

one of my delivery box

just despawned

[boreal vine]

I often find a lot of those boxes that are the same size/mechanic as delivery missions in wrecks from missions like investigation, what can I do with those?

[pastel flame]

You can sell them, but as Fjord mentioned you may get a few thousand aUEC for the lot. If you plan to run a load of drugs to mix it up just leave em in your ship

[clever hamlet]

If i found my last ship with cargo on it after i claimed a new one, can I sell cargo from the old ship?

[boreal vine]

Alright, and how would I sell them as they dont snap to a grid directly?

[frank jacinth]

!TRADETOOLS

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[tawny path]

where do i sell drugs

[vestal ravine]

The best spots are the 3 salvage yards.

[jovial matrix]

4*

[vestal ravine]

They will show in a different selling box at the TDD. Not all boxes need to be on the grid.

[rotund prairie]

so if i 30k on an EU server, does the 30k protection only restore my ship to that region? or will it work if I switch to USA server?

[vestal ravine]

Here's what I do kinda thing. First of all I am not sure about the server/region question. Sorry. If you have cargo and the 30K happens don't do anything for about 10 minutes. Then try to get back into your original game session. You may have to restart what seems like a whole new log in, if so do it. Once you are in the game world, call the cargo ship up. See what status it is, claim, retrieve, destroyed, etc. Do not claim the ship right away. If it says retrieve that is the best outcome. So retrieve the ship and visually check for the cargo. If cargo shown, close the ramp, exit, etc. and store the ship. Head to the TDD or Admin and try to sell your cargo. But with the condition of the servers, etc. no telling what the hell can happen. Good luck, pray.

[rotund prairie]

thanks

[trim prairie]

does anyone know how many crates a freelancer fits?

[warm vector]

Hello freelancer max has 120, than freelancer stock has 66 scu

[trim prairie]

Right

But how many crates does it hold

[warm vector]

What do you mean, you can hold 120 but you can storage more

[trim prairie]

When salvaging you have a crate

[zenith maple]

the salvage crate is 1 scu crate

[warm vector]

Oh ok yeah

[trim prairie]

Do i can have 66 in the freelancer

So*

[warm vector]

Yes

[trim prairie]

Thank you

[zenith maple]

you can have 66 on the grid

[trim prairie]

Ily

[zenith maple]

and you can stove some extra round and about if you want to take the risk

[trim prairie]

So the freelancer stacks?

[zenith maple]

but be careful, sometimes they clip through shit and blow up

[trim prairie]

Because the reclaimer didnt

Ok ill be careful

[zenith maple]

I believe most haulers have a 2 height grid, but not personally used the freelancer for hauling

[trim prairie]

Ok thank you

Appreciate the help @zenith maple @warm vector

[warm vector]

Have a good day @trim prairie

[mossy palm]

Freelancer has 3 crate height of its cargo grids. I stuffed it full last evening of agri supplies before hauling to NB.

[austere canyon]

anybody know the cargo capacity of the avenger titan?

[mossy palm]

6 SCUs.

Dunno about inventory size.

[jovial matrix]

8SCU

[austere canyon]

Translated into boxes. How much is that. I'm about to get the game. So just gathering information

[jovial matrix]

That is 8 boxes

Wait

Do you mean the handheld boxes or the big boxes you have to move with a tractorbeam?

[round oak]

It's 8 scu boxes. So the ones you move with a tractor beam. The handheld ones you just kinda lay in the back. There's a grid capacity for 8 fullsize 1scu boxes though and a bed area. I have the titan it's the bees knees

[austere canyon]

im also gonna buy the titan as my starter pack

[jovial matrix]

Good idea

[bitter jungle]

how can I figur out what cargo I just looted ?

[round oak]

Grim

[bitter jungle]

just there ?

[desert loom]

I think you might have to open a trade terminal to see whats in your ship

doesn't matter where

[round oak]

Probably any trades term but if it's looted you'll have to be at grim or a reclaim place

Might as well check where you could sell

[desert loom]

you have to be at grim or a reclaim place to sell stolen goods

you can still see stolen goods in a trade terminal anywhere

[round oak]

∆∆

[bitter jungle]

sweet thanks. Not sure what that poor sob was thinking attacking me

[wary ruin]

If you 30k and have to claim your ship again does that mean the cargo is gone?

[rocky sandal]

Is there a trading website that doesn’t need you to second guess every number? Gallog has numerous decimal errors

[jovial matrix]

Use !trade tools and UEXcorp

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[jovial matrix]

There we go

[rocky sandal]

Thanks! Trade tools is much more believable!

[desert loom]

If you claim the ship you lose your cargo for sure. When 30k recovery works for me it always stores my ship at area 18, even if I spawn in lorville. Also any recovered cargo will not show up until you “retrieve” it at least once.

[wary ruin]

Dang I just lost 700k

[mossy palm]

So, if I get booted by 30k, I should check ASOPs and see where game stored the ship, then make my way there to pull it out of local hangar in order to preserve cargo?

[desert loom]

yes, you can store it again immediately

[mossy palm]

What about flying it to buyer? It would still work?

[wary ruin]

Is it normal for arccorp 045 to have a ton of ships around it?

[jovial matrix]

I suppose so

Might be a ship meet happening there, most likely it’s abandoned ships

[wary ruin]

There are a ton of fighter ships I was going to get some cargo but I think they might pirate me

[jovial matrix]

Are any of them showing as red or blue?

[wary ruin]

One blue one red and a few white

[jovial matrix]

Mmmm

Might be best to avoid then

[thorny pendant]

Anyway around the whole inventory not popping up when selecting your ship in a commodity console?

[ornate copper]

I don't know if it's just me but some ships seem to be showing as blue even if they're unoccupied or not initialized yet. Freelancers, Valkyries and Vanguards in particular.

Might just be npc bounties or something

[upbeat merlin]

I cany wait for the spirit to drop

[elfin rune]

Try store the ship

Or store - retrieve

I had to move manually all the cargo several times so the console " show " it

For me, storing usually works

I guess you have some cargo off the grid?

[north oyster]

Even though it's a mid level ship, I appreciate that it offers a way to get into the VIP gameplay loop when that eventually arrives

The little bomber option is nice too

Ascetics are top notch with that series, as are all Crusader ships

[bitter jungle]

I can't get the "private property" trade console to work today, already tried to make it react to me on 2 different shards .. but nothings happening 😦

is this a known issue ?

[thorny pendant]

It's probably the servers. Try a different region?

[bitter jungle]

they were different regions..

[thorny pendant]

Oof

[bitter jungle]

I wonder if orphanage is going to be the same now

if only the rented andromeda wasn't so incredibly slow

[thorny pendant]

Facts

[shrewd hinge]

Does anyone have that chart that says what vehicles fit in what ships?

[jovial matrix]

#📁┃help-archive message

[shrewd hinge]

Thanks

[silent void]

how do I trade on major cities? the ship is in the spaceport but when I go to the commodity shop id doesn't show up

[spare cloud]

you have to go to the TDD, in which city are you ?

[silent void]

Lorville

I've been there but same issue

The ship storage doesn't show up

the issue is fixed

[viscid estuary]

you guys see the tiktok ban bill extends to quantum computers and AI within video games? Like SC.

[nimble copper]

Man! I finally have a C2 full of quant I can’t wait to take it over from arcl1 to A18 to sell it!!!!!

[vestal ravine]

That wont be affected by the patch drop?

[turbid crystal]

hey, quick question: how does the new physicalised cargo work with ships that dont use the tipical boxes like the raft for example. is it just not possible to load scu boxes onto them?

[zenith maple]

you can transport boxes without a grid

but you need to be careful if stuffing things into spaces they dont fit

because it can make things go boom

but people going salvaging have put a lot more boxes in their vulture than what is fit on the grid

[turbid crystal]

but the raft has external cargo with no grid, so i guess that is just not working then?

[zenith maple]

oh, hm, good question

[turbid crystal]

i think its just the odd one out there then for now..

sad, i liked the industrial look

just searching out ships i want to get in my roster while i cant play btw, thats why im asking questions on here

[zenith maple]

all good, I got curious, so watching stuff now. it looks like its made to deal with a 32SCU premade container

[turbid crystal]

but there isnt really any gameplay loop with those boxes yet huh?

[zenith maple]

but I agree, it has a very cool look

not as far as I know

[turbid crystal]

soon ™️

[zenith maple]

so yeah, looks like you can only do cargo runs with auto loading/unloading to be able to use the 96SCU. Not manually adding boxes like hull-A and others.

[jovial matrix]

yeah

[delicate girder]

Talking about the Constellations? Oh, the Raft. That's a bummer. I thought that was one of the much needed advantages of the Raft.

[zenith maple]

yeah, I haven't really looked at it before, but I really like the look of it

wish we could put crates in it, and I might have picked up one

I dont want to go for Hull-A, but I have been looking for something "new"

[delicate girder]

Yay @zenith maple, I just upgrade that Arrow package to a Hull A and it looks like it cuased a 19005 error on login! Damn!

[zenith maple]

not sure if the upgrade is the reason, I would just try again

[delicate girder]

Yeah, tried loggin in three times since, but I'll keep trying.

Sure hope CIG doesn't decide to penalize everyone for the their sins of creating the current exploits and the sins of those who used and promoted them.

[junior edge]

so hard mining in 3.18 i cant get the beam stable, its too erratic jumping all over the range

even on a 3kmass rock its so much harder then use to be

[delicate girder]

Had you mined a lot in 3.17 with the same setup? I haven't mined much since 3.15.

[junior edge]

yea

i m wondering if i figured it out, i had a lancet mh1 on it but ship blew up, respawn, and today i saw it wasnt a mh1 lancet on it, so brought a new one and made the changes will go back to test

[delicate girder]

That's it. Yeah, you lose the mining head when the ship blows up. It sucks.

Just CCUed to a Hull A and I'm thinking that the only really profitable things to do with it are drug running, hauling stuff I mined or hauling stuff I salvaged. Are there any other decently profitable things to do with a 48 SCU ship other than those?

[jovial matrix]

Not really

Also hull A has 64SCU

[delicate girder]

Awesome! I'm glad Erkul is wrong about that!

[upbeat merlin]

64 scu deez

[junior edge]

yea, i did the upgrade on my pieces lti, i went from it to gladius, from gladius to vulture, tried salvage, didnt like getting out of the seat to play stack the box, so after a few days got tired of it, then upgraded that to a connie, and went back to mining on prospector

[still sentinel]

Where do I sell SLAM guys?
I bought some at the Orphanage, then sold it at Samsons, went back for more but this time I couldn't sell any, then i flew to CRU L5, and they only bought 3 SCU worth, so now I have all my money in cargo in a rented ship, but i dont know where i can sell more than 2-3 units at a time.

Any advice appreciated

[steep glacier]

You have to sell illegal cargos on No Question asked Kiosks

I think there is one at CRU-L5 and L4

[still sentinel]

Sold 3 units at L5, and if L4 is also only 3 I still have a LOT left

[steep glacier]

https://sc-trade.tools/home was what I used

[still sentinel]

Nice, yea just found that one too!

Trying to see if Daymar, or Euterpe is closest

[steep glacier]

🙏 Thank the people who makes these sites

[still sentinel]

Oh yea, they are glorious! it is pretty amazing they put time and effort to do it, helping us all

[still sentinel]

The one on Daymar, Brio's Breaker Yard worked! Do you know if there is a limit on stuff like ETAM and ATMARMARMToxin being bought by the terminals?

[steep glacier]

I think etam is max 2k SCU im not sure about the other one

[wraith cairn]

About the illegal delivery missions that have been added sometime in 3.17, are any of them actually decent rewards wise? Any worth doing compared to the 45k legal ones where ya gotta get boxes from bunkers?

[steep glacier]

Its a pretty good deal if you already have a cs

[wraith cairn]

Are there ones that only show up when you have a high CS like I think some Vaugh ones do?

[steep glacier]

I dont believe so but rep does

[novel harness]

how much more profitable is C2 than A2 with running cargo

like can someone tell me how much would 1 cargo run be on each of the ships

[jovial matrix]

Significantly

Don’t know the exact numbers, but a C2 full of one commodity would be worth almost 3 times as much as a full A2 of the same commodity

[novel harness]

how much will a full run of best commodity cost and pay with C2?

aprox

[jovial matrix]

I don’t know

Use !tradetools to find out for yourself

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[novel harness]

thanks

C2 it is

[spare cloud]

C2 has more than 3 times more cargo, i mean, it's easy maths here

[stone flower]

can the argo rafts containers on the back of the ship open

[delicate girder]

I've actually liked the interface of gallog.co a little better in the past than SC Trade Tools, but I was sad to see that Gollog is no longer up-to-date and has some rather big bugs. SC Trade Tools is king for sure at the moment.

[jovial matrix]

No, I don’t think so

[misty coyote]

Is there still a No Questions Asked terminal at Cru L4?

[steady wharf]

is taurus a profitable solo cargo ship

[jovial matrix]

Yes

[stable grotto]

how would one start off with cargo / trading?

my starter is a titan

[zenith maple]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[zenith maple]

and then I would suggest youtube

just because getting a visual guide helps

but a titan doesnt hold much, so you wont be making much money

you also risk your own money by doing cargo, since you have to pay for it

if you want "cargo" runs with titan, I would do package runs

being ups pays okay, takes you around the world, and you can loot the shit out of mining outposts and more

[vestal ravine]

Any tips for landing a Hull A at NBIS? These winds got me scrapping all over the place and my ship actually fell down into the bay! That was my landing. Also at Devlin's I normally could sell all vices there this time demand for Widow was zero so I had to fly away. Hard mode continues.

[elfin rune]

hmm,cutlass black can really move 46 boxeS?

[jovial matrix]

Yup

[elfin rune]

ty

[elfin rune]

how can i get this ship? https://starcitizen.tools/RAFT

[uneven grove]

Grey market or in game. Or wait for an event where they sell it like IAE

[jovial matrix]

Yup

[uneven grove]

Note that if you buy grey market you will pay more than the ship is worth

[round oak]

If it's demand is out you could wait about 1 to 2 min intervals an check terminal again till it reloads. It goes in and out of stock periodically

[elfin rune]

Excuse me im pretty new here, no plegde store but yes ingame?

Its a good ship?

[little stratus]

it will be available on the pledge store during events

the grey market is an unsanctioned marketplace to buy Star Citizen ships

[sacred raptor]

it's just like any other hauler really. if it has the capacity you need it should be fine. it won't really shine until the game gets the larger 32SCU containers actually implemented into the game

[elfin rune]

What? Cant use regular boxes?

[elfin rune]

Hmmm, any event on calendar?

[sacred raptor]

it can. the ship works fine as a hauler afaik. the large 32SCU crates it carries though aren't implemented as a special thing in the game. the raft's benefit is the ability to fly in. pick up already loaded 32scu crates. and fly off quickly. the things to enable THAT are not implemented. so it's just a normal hauler

upcoming event is invictus in may

[elfin rune]

So, for the moment ,its an Orange 96 boxes hauler, right?

[vestal ravine]

Thank you I will go back and try again!

[brave anchor]

Can anyone here explain to me why I can’t sell another players ships cargo at an NQA terminal after I’ve boarded it and entered the pilot seat, started it up, charged the shields and even moved it?

What’s the point of persistence if people just leave all of their trash scattered around and other players can’t scavenge it?

[jovial matrix]

Yes

[jovial matrix]

Cause you don’t own the ship

You gotta transfer the cargo to a ship if your own

[balmy knot]

where do you get things like Maze if they aren't sold anywhere? Are they just random items you find in NPC Cargo?

[jovial matrix]

Whenever JT is active, and from the contraband dispenser in SPK

[balmy knot]

oh... contraband dispenser?

I like the sound of that...

[steady wharf]

Is SLAM illegal cargo?

[jovial matrix]

Yes

[jovial matrix]

Sadly, from what I understand, breaking into kareah and controlling the contraband dispenser is a ton of work for extremely low payout

[steady wharf]

Looking on trade tools and it seems to be the only cargo on there I can run.

[balmy knot]

MAZE sells for 90k/unit at GH...

at least based on the terminals, last i checked

[jovial matrix]

You don’t get full SCU’s from the dispenser though

You get the 1/8th SCU boxes, and afaik you typically only get 1

[balmy knot]

🙂

[jovial matrix]

You also need multiple people in the station and in the air to lock down SPK, so you gotta split profit

[balmy knot]

shoot... if you bring a team of 5 and take 10 boxes worth... that's 9M

1.8M per head...

[jovial matrix]

What no

If 1SCU of maze sells for 90k like you said, you would get like 12k per 1/8SCU box

And you get an extremely small amount of those boxes while the dispenser is active

[balmy knot]

physicalized boxes are 1/8SCU?

[jovial matrix]

Yeah the handheld boxes are 1/8th of an SCU

Just checked SC trade tools, and you would get 10.8k~ per box

[balmy knot]

because 1SCU (8 physicalized boxes) is 90k... I'm getting it now

[jovial matrix]

Yeah

Tryna find stuff on how much it pays out

[balmy knot]

Grim Hex gives 90k/SCU

[jovial matrix]

According to a guy on Reddit you get 15-20 boxes of stuff before the dispenser stops

And most of it seems to be random garbage and low level drugs

[balmy knot]

you in-game Fjord?

[jovial matrix]

No

Ok, found a video

They made 45k~ + some other things they couldn’t sell

And they got 3 boxes of maze

[sonic flax]

Or run away with the money

[jovial matrix]

This is true

But scummy

But funny

[pastel flame]

I just left SPK to test some other bugs but ya, not worth

[tawny path]

does a pices fit in a c2

[wary maple]

Yes
https://youtu.be/IsbVUCA1j_A?t=361

[modest palm]

can anyone vc with me and walk me thru the beginning of the game

[fading pollen]

Hey. New player here too. I used this video to get started. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNgkQCIEPG4

[trim scarab]

Cant sell cargo?

[vestal prism]

Can anyone post me a video (or explain to me here) for trading in 3.18? I've always wanted to try it, but I've never got my feet wet on this side of things.

[elfin rune]

!Tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[elfin rune]

Check that website lots of info

[vestal prism]

Thanks guys.

[elfin rune]

Whats the " data transport " about?

Thers ships but i know nothing

[lapis spire]

Pretty sure it’s not a thing yet

[jovial matrix]

Data running isn’t a thing ingame yet

[elfin rune]

And science?

[jovial matrix]

Not ingame either

[elfin rune]

" flight ready " isnt the same than ingame? My fault

Lots of interesting concepts

[jovial matrix]

Flight ready just means you can fly the ship

[elfin rune]

Oh

[jovial matrix]

Doesn’t mean that that ships intended gameplay is ingame yet

[elfin rune]

Thanks

[pastel flame]

I just want data running

[distant igloo]

where alll can you sell cargo (SCU BOXES)

[little stratus]

depends on the cargo

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[boreal vine]

How much does laranite sell for? Like C2 people doing full or half loads idk how it works

[slender bronze]

https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Laranite

[elfin rune]

+1, id like that implemented

and ship refueling \ reparing \ restocking

this is my dream ship https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/ships/vulcan/Vulcan

[weary harbor]

how does trading work in a party?

[vestal ravine]

Generally trading is a solo activity. The best cash partnership is working a laser on Mole mining vessel. Another one is shared contracts being a gunner on bounties/Aerial space battles.

[hushed pelican]

what can i get for the custodian executive edition?

[trim scarab]

Drug trading apparently ain’t possible no more :(

[vestal ravine]

What's going on?

[trim scarab]

Grim hex has placeholder stuff (some other stations too) and other places have turrets preventing drug sales

Apparently cuz of some bug with the slider when buying stuff

causing prices to go very low when buying

[hallow relic]

Not very much. They are very common.

[agile stone]

Could someone tell me about Cargo and trading by chance, I am new and wanting to see my options and all.

[barren marsh]

@agile stone #learn-to-play👶old has many guides to help you with the basics and if you have specific questions we can answer them

[ripe scarab]

ship shows up at TDD but not the cargo on it....any idea or help pls?

[modern agate]

can you open the cargobox in the hornet?

[pseudo cloud]

can you rent a c2

[sonic flax]

Turns out drug running in a Reclaimer is great

[zenith maple]

it is a big tanky box after all

[sonic flax]

not much threat aside from my driving to it

landing at brio is.. something though

[elfin rune]

Thers a website to check the rental prices between stations?

Id need a cutty black cheap xd

[jovial matrix]

!wiki

[alpine orbit]

https://starcitizen.tools/

Star Citizen Wiki

Star Citizen Wiki

The Star Citizen Wiki: Everything you need to know about the next Best Damn Space Sim Ever from Cloud Imperium Games crowdfunded by the community.

[jovial matrix]

Look up “ship renting”

[uneven grove]

Best multi crew gameplay by far is a reclaimer crew

[lapis spire]

When the lift works and. You don’t fall through it

[uneven grove]

Follow the reclaimer commandments

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/11voq9k/guide_to_avoid_most_reclaimer_bugs_comment_your/

[woven moss]

Any idea when the Hull B will be released? I tried looking at the roadmap but couldn't really get an idea on a realistic release date to pledge

I want to CCU my Hull A to a B when it releases but don't really know when that'll be

[median crane]

What sight does every one use for commodity trading ?

[jovial matrix]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[jovial matrix]

Also UEXcorp

[median crane]

awsome thank you !!

[pastel flame]

Hey, this is late, but drug selling is definitely still possible and profitable. I wouldn't suggest using the bug because shitters use exploits, but depending on the system there are outposts with no turrets everyone sells at.

For crusader, for instance, it's Brio's Breaker Yard

I won't link it here but I have a drug running guide that shows you the fastest way to pick up and sell on yt, under @pastel flame

[trim scarab]

Alrighty

[haughty compass]

Hey guys I was shipping cargo in my new Cutty Black and stupidly went into the turret while jumping and I died, loosing all my money in the cargo I was hauling, around 100k aUEC. Is there any tricks to get it back or am I just gonna have to start from scratch?

[jovial matrix]

Do you remember where you were jumping to?

Cause you can take your cutty and do the same jump, and your other cutty should be at the exit point of the jump

Might not be able to find it if you started the jump from somewhere random though

[haughty compass]

Yeah I was going from Area 18 to New Babbage. But I’ve stupidly exited the server since then so idk if it would still be there

[jovial matrix]

If you can get on the same server it should be there

[pastel flame]

Should put you back in the same server unless you join a friend or that server is toasted

[boreal vine]

Are there any other good things like Laranite to trade? Something more profitable for smaller ships maybe?

Or anything more profitable at all except drugs

[jovial matrix]

Agricium is the highest profit legal commodity afaik

Slightly more than laranite

Very small quantities though

[boreal vine]

Will take a look into it.

[boreal vine]

I am calculating Agricium on SC trade tool. A full load would make me 288k profit while a full load of laranite gives me 346k profit.

[elfin rune]

Which ship ure using?

[boreal vine]

I am calculating for a caterpillar

[elfin rune]

Huh thats a big ship

[jovial matrix]

You aren’t gonna get enough of either to fill a cat

Also I think that’s cause agricium has a higher margin but a lower base price

So you would make more doing laranite

[boreal vine]

Yeah, but running laranite will you get enough to fill a caterpillar?

[vestal ravine]

I recently experienced the "mandatory??" 5 minute wait to sell 120 SCU of Chlorine at a TDD for a meager 5k profit. Never had to wait before, bah humbug. And please raise these profit margins!

[uneven grove]

Trade something else lol

[open plaza]

where can I sell laranite & titanium near PO

[open plaza]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[pastel flame]

Laranite>titanium mix is the meta for legal commodity trading

[boreal vine]

Rgr cheers

[obtuse granite]

Yah, buy agra > lara and rest titanium. The profit per hour is not so important than that u make profit most of the time. There is no race to become rich...

[boreal vine]

Agreed

[raw gorge]

are harvestables worth picking up ive checked sc trade tools and items i have arent worth anything ive never done this and just wanted to test the gameplay loop any help would be appreciated

like i found prota and some other things but arccorp admin are only selling for like super super cheap

no money

[mossy palm]

Lootables sell good when you bundle up pile of them. For prota and such "fruits", best would be to find local trader console. I know New Babbage has one near(-ish) to the TDD terminals. Guns, armor go to Dumpers Depot, multitools to Shubin, I think, and medical stuff to local pharmacy/hospital. For best money.

[raw gorge]

Thank you lots I’ll keep sure to copy this somewhere I appreciate it lots! So the best bet is to actually build up stacks of these items and sell in bulk which I assume is the only way to make money I’ll keep note of this in 3.18.1

[nocturne berry]

Does SC Trade tools work? None of the places ever have lara or agra. I even waited at 141 for like 30 mins for it to refresh and only 9 SCU starting from 3 cSCU.

Also, there are times the SCU drops between checks but noone has come and loaded. How does the refresh work?

[elfin rune]

Anyone please answer to this cause im really interested

[spare cloud]

idk about refresh but ik there isn't a single website like trade tools, uextraders or anything else that can tell you when are refresh
all those site can do is tell you where you can find trading goods to buy but they don't know if someone already came and filled their C2 or not

[nocturne berry]

My point is there is something wrong with the refresh if you can wait literally 30mins at the site, no one else lands in that time, the refresh is slow (3 cSCU to 9 SCU), while there you see it increase to 19 SCU but it magical decreases to 4 SCU at next check with noone landing.

There are abandoned ships on the pad but noone in them or in the trade terminal building.

I think some hacking is going on.

[stark island]

what do i have to do so i don't lose cargo my internet died a few minutes ago while i was transporting goods

[nocturne berry]

The abandoned ships are Cuttlas and every so often someone would come and fly off. They never even entered the trade building because I'm in there the whole time.

Something is not right

[spare cloud]

trading stocks are cross server

[nocturne berry]

Oh. 🤣 That explains it. Don't think I like it, though. Because at the moment anyone can steal your cargo off of a Hull A or any other external cargo ship even while in armistice.

So if I'm in there loading periodically with my Hull A outside. Thief's could be stripping crates from it as I buy them. And I can't even shoot them.

It happens to me this weekend

[spare cloud]

cross server trading stocks and you hull A being stolen aren't linked, i mean, tractor beam cargo isn't cross server lmao

[nocturne berry]

I'm not saying they are linked

[spare cloud]

or i misunderstand what you said ?

that's how i understood "i dont like it (think IT was cross server trading stocks) because ..."

you meant trading in general ?

[nocturne berry]

I'm saying to get a full load you'll have to constantly be buying every time 1 cSCU refreshes because someone on another server could by it up. Sk while your in the building hawking the trade terminal people can be outside stripping your crates

[spare cloud]

trading has its downsides ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[nocturne berry]

Each terminal should have its own stock up to at least 50% of its capacity. Once at 50% the 2nd 50% is shared across servers. It makes no sense for 25% of a terminals stock to disappear when noone has locally landed. There needs to be some sense of continuity on the server

[lapis spire]

Is the cargo lock button not implemented yet to stop them just stealing off your Hull A in armistice

[nocturne berry]

Particularly when it's the 1st only 25% for that terminal's stock

[nocturne berry]

Haven't see such a setting yet

[spare cloud]

3.19

[nocturne berry]

Let's hope

But I haven't seen any mention of this feature

[spare cloud]

nah it's for sure

[spare cloud]

best i found, wasn't able to find the official announcement
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/11yy6dj/teaser_of_319s_trator_beam_update_maneuvering/

[lapis spire]

Ah ok

[mossy palm]

If you take cople of box delivery missiins, and loot both sender and receiver places down to the ground (/lootgoblin mode), you could make 10-15k creds in such loot alone.

[nocturne berry]

Okay. Some hope. Let's see if this applies to external cargo on an active grid.

[elfin rune]

With the tractor beam well get the tractor from ships working?

My vulture needs it

[vestal ravine]

The usual way of dealing with this is to store your ship then sell if visiting a TDD site. Recently I had 2 different types of Vice on my Hull A but could only sell one at Brio's so I had to stop playing for the evening and stored that ship. I checked it a day later and that Vice is still onboard. Before 3.18 all that would of sold in one fell swoop. Not sure if 3.18 is gonna stay this way things are all screwed up in my opinion. Give me 3.17 any day!!

[elfin rune]

With no vice to sell theres still a way to earn credits for a medium hauler?

[mental perch]

how big of a cargo hold does the Constellation Taurus have, the ship search page doesn't tell you.

[spare cloud]

174SCU
you should check !erkul

[wary tusk]

#DPSCalculator

• Calculator • Shops • Ships • Weapons •

[mental perch]

ty

[hollow sedge]

So ive heard of a whole underground trading system that supposedly moves a ton of wealth around. I know asking probably wont gain me access to the information but worth a shot. Id like in. If anyone knows anything about it and doesnt want to reviel in chat dm me please

[rain shale]

It could be because they are KNOWN trade routes so a lot of people are running it.

[vestal ravine]

I like the blue lights around the bridge area but in general the Connie series look like crap to me.

[elfin rune]

Great cargo / price tho

Utility > look in my opinion

[zenith tendon]

I'll take that dm also

[spare cloud]

not rly considering the C2 isn't even twice as expensive as the cheapest taurus and has more than 3 times the cargo

[elfin rune]

The numbers go up quickly. I always forget the c2

The crudader ships looks " too fancy for work " to me

[spare cloud]

bruh

[pastel flame]

It's all bullshit

There are no secret ultra trade routes

We are all privy to which resources are available where, what they cost, and where they can be delivered

[boreal vine]

You mean drug running lol

[pastel flame]

Not exactly secret 😛

[boreal vine]

^

[shut isle]

is drug running just hard because of restock times or is it not as profitable anymore?

[pastel flame]

It can be risky, and if you don't know how to get missions for the hidden buy locations it can be a pain

I have a yt video on how it all works if you get ambitious.

[delicate girder]

Anyone else had a situation where the landing gear off the Hull A seem to stick to the landing pad?

[nocturne berry]

Check your speed limiter?

[delicate girder]

Check for what? It's set at SCM and I have no forward or backward motion at the time.

A weird coincidence with it is that it seemed to start happening when I upgraded my QT drive to a VK-00.

Don't remember it happening before that.

[lusty horizon]

Does cargo affect flight characters? If I fill a C2 with something heavy like tungsten, will the ship be slower to get moving and stop?

[jovial matrix]

I know the hull A flies worse when laden, but idk about the C2 or other cargo ships

[delicate girder]

I don't thing it affects the C2 currently, That is planned though. To what @jovial matrixsaid, I've noticed that you can actually tip over a Hull A by loading it on one side first. It's quite funny.

[clever hamlet]

Does carrack really not have easy 'physical' access to cargo bays?

[jovial matrix]

Nope

[vestal ravine]

Isn't that the ship you full load the cargo and the back section is non accessible? Maybe that's what he means? There is a catwalk to see what's there. Or maybe that was the Raft?

[jovial matrix]

The carrack has a catwalk

You’re probably thinking of the caterpillar though

[fringe vector]

Are we close to functional suit lockers?

[nocturne berry]

Where us the Refinement Center on Port Olisar? I'm trying to sell there on the Admin commodity screen but my cargo shows as locked.

Actually its showing in the Cannot sell section but I got it from a legit trading terminal

[vestal ravine]

Go down to Orison at cloud center tram stop area.

[vestal ravine]

Not that I've heard.

[elfin rune]

Where do you guys buy high ammount of legal comms?

Or you visit different places to fill the haul?

[mossy palm]

I dont think Port Olisar has Refinery or Logistics deck. Unles 3.18 changed stuff, there are only landing pads, airlocks for access inside, and then FPS and limited ship aprt sellers and habs.

[pastel flame]

There's a mission you can take under maintenance that will lead you to drug labs.

[elfin rune]

Thats great but not so accurate to my question. Ill explain better, do you buy stuff in many places in order to fill your ship or theres tradeposts so full you can fill the ship in 1 stop?

Doing a trade route with 2 stops, 1 to buy and 1 to sell?

[vital glen]

is dolivine worth 130k a unit?

its saying that at a terminal

im so confused

[elfin rune]

Theres money in buying selling waste or scrap?

[mossy palm]

Not really, tou barely make anything even if you are next door, so to speak, to scrapyard.

[sonic surge]

Money is in that SLAM....

[spare cloud]

that's the price for 1 SCU

[vital glen]

yea i realised its hand minables

[elfin rune]

What about legal stuff? No money even with lots of cargo space?

[sonic surge]

Of course, quantanium mining is super profitable nd if you go up the mission chain of delivery runs they get up there in pay out. Each avenue you take, bounty, mining, delivery, ect goes up in payout the more you plug away

[elfin rune]

So no legal stuff brings profits?

Or only laranite?

[jovial matrix]

Legal stuff does bring profit, you just need a large hauler and enough money to invest

People make like 200k profit per run doing laranite and titanium from bezdek/Lathan to lorville

[slender bronze]

I haul something legal and make 100k per run after costs (fuel).
No I'm not going to tell you what it is, lack of competition keeps the profit predictable.

Edit; Hauling with a C2 Hercules

[elfin rune]

Buah, C2 capacity? I only have a freelancer max

[elfin rune]

Ty , everytime i try its out of stock

Thats why im asking for alternatives even if its less profit

[jovial matrix]

That’s what you need to make good profit with legal commodities

[elfin rune]

At least a C2? Damn thats way out of my range

But its good to know

[green bear]

did they finally actually turn off drug trading?

[jovial matrix]

Carrack/M2/caterpillar/C2

[vestal ravine]

I have been trying to sell 4 slam for several times now. The scrapyard terminals won't come on. Anyone made a clean sale at those places?

[green bear]

@vestal ravine Might just be on a broken server, I just had to hop 3 times to be able to interact to buy at one

[vestal ravine]

Okay cool!!

[elfin rune]

Ty will take a look

I like the caterpilar tho

[lapis spire]

Caterpillar does seem really cool Tbf, especially for space loading

[wheat estuary]

hi I'm new and checking out cargo hauling are there any meta routes or popular places to get cargo from please?

[uneven grove]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[elfin rune]

Ive just finished my 1st legal coms travel with freelancer max, and it was dissapointing

14k profit

[pastel flame]

Yeah all midsize will be like that, you've got to run drugs to do decent with a mid

[elfin rune]

I know freelancer max its not a big boy but with coms alerts 14k.....

With 10 times the ship it would be 140k which isnt a lot

[pastel flame]

Indeed

Risk 950k for sub-200k profit per trip in a c2

The returns on WiDoW are much higher

[unkempt maple]

Just putting thoughts in mind anyone ever wonder why they dont have on planet trading with all the hoverquads and ground units?

like post to post

[vestal ravine]

I love my little grasshopper tinfoil trade ship and it tipped over after I had a clean landing!! LOL CUTE

[unkempt maple]

like a post to post race or trading would be a solid thing with all those small race ships

[vestal ravine]

Better than the 5K I made.

[elfin rune]

A small update, ive just made a laranite travel, which is the most profitable legal stuff i think

~50k profit

At least i dont have the " wasted time " feeling so hard

[green mango]

Is there any place buying Neon right now

[elfin rune]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[elfin rune]

Maybe there youll find an answer

[green mango]

Ah thanks

Looks like im heading to Wala

[subtle narwhal]

is the cargo exploit still working?

[clever hamlet]

Yea, I think fixed in 18.1

[subtle narwhal]

but live server is still 18.0 correct?

[clever hamlet]

Yup

[modern agate]

box missions level up to more interesting and higher paying ones eventually yeh?

[lapis spire]

Yes

[modern agate]

how many does it take?

[lapis spire]

Idk, but it’s when you increase your reputation

[spring prism]

This site lists ship performance. Such as Fuel Flow, operating costs, etc. You can also use it to compare two ships in the upper right. The compare icon looks like a few graph bars. (📊) This will probably be useful for cargo and trading in the future when more options to haul come in. It's already useful for box deliveries though: https://www.spviewer.eu/

As an example: I've found out how inefficient the Cutlass' Maneuvering Thrusters are, causing them to waste a lot of Hydrogen if you are maneuvering a lot.

Cutlass Fuel Performance Charts for the example. Lower FfpM is Better, except for Fuel Scooping.

[pastel flame]

This is cool Ean

[spring prism]

If you are having trouble getting box delivery missions for a specific planet:

Besides doing the introduction/evaluation mission for Box Deliveries of that planet, or having no negative reputation with the box delivery mission giver; make sure you're within the orbit of the farthest moon. This is required to be considered within that Planet's jurisdiction. You can tell if you're within the planet's area through several means, 1) You get box delivery missions. 2) You get a notification that you've entered the jurisdiction of the planet. 3) You can set a destination to one of the planet's moons directly, rather than having to go to the planet first, then the moon. If none of these have happened or can happen to you, you are not within the jurisdiction/area of that planet, and must get closer to the planet.

[modern agate]

Why can't I sell this gold?

[nocturne berry]

Did you and your pirate ship steal it. 🤨 Eh!? 🫤 Well, did you! 😤 Speak up, man!

[modern agate]

found a crashed C2 on aberdeen and picked it out of the wreckage

[nocturne berry]

😂🤣😭💀

[green mango]

I wish I came across undefended abandon starships full of valuables.

[topaz coyote]

try selling at grim hex.. they buy "stolen" goods...

[crimson mantle]

Stolen goods can only be sold at fence locations: https://sc-trade.tools/best-buyer?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522Crusader%2520C2%2520Hercules%2520Starlifter%2522,%2522investment%2522:250000,%2522itemName%2522:%2522Gold%2522,%2522itemQuantityInScu%2522:10,%2522wreckNames%2522:%255B%255D,%2522isCargoStolen%2522:true,%2522itemTypes%2522:%255B%255D,%2522itemNames%2522:%255B%255D,%2522locationTypes%2522:%255B%255D,%2522locationNames%2522:%255B%255D%257D

The "Best buyer" tool, with the "Stolen cargo" filter checked, will give you the list of shops buying your "found" cargo 😄

[modern agate]

Ah. They really should finish that PLACEHOLDER label which I assume is meant to say STOLEN.

Thanks.

[subtle narwhal]

What is the biggest cargo ship you can rent?

[pastel flame]

Constellation Andromeda IIRC

[subtle narwhal]

wikes

yikes*

[modern agate]

yikes?

[pastel flame]

It's midsize cargo, nice all rounder

[tame orchid]

whats the highest profit legal trade commodity in game?

medical suuply?

[soft stirrup]

Agricum witha. C2 starlifter

400k profit for a full load

[crimson mantle]

I would advise against buying a lot of med supplies (outside seige events) as no one buys a lot of it 😄

Even the big cities don't buy a full C2's worth

[tame orchid]

oh ok thank u

[slender bronze]

@tame orchid

I would agree.
300scu per hour if you're selling to the same TDD is a safe bet.
You can do more but, if someone else is doing the same run. You're going to struggle to sell a full C2 over the course of an hour.

[brittle orchid]

just 30kd with a full taurus, what do i do to not lose that cargo?

[pastel flame]

Don't claim it. Eventually it will change as showing as Stored at your initial home location

[brittle orchid]

gotcha, so last time i spawned it with all the cargo was at port olisar. my spawnpoint is at gh, and my initial home is orison, so i should check orison for it?

[pastel flame]

Yeah, but the biggest thing is just watch your asop til it shows as stored, do not claim

My corsair with a full roc in it took nearly a day to show up, so if it takes a bit hold faith

[brittle orchid]

worked, ty

[ivory gust]

if the 30k protection works correctly you don't need to "check" anywhere for it, the ship will be able to be retrieved from anywhere in the system without a claim

[delicate girder]

In my experience of 3.18 so far, I haven't seen the 30k protection work. There's a chance I wasn't patient enough though.

[pastel flame]

Nah, you have to go to where it's stored

[pastel flame]

It was this. My Corsair took nearly a full day

[ivory gust]

Not for 30k protection.

[pastel flame]

Yeah

I had to for Corsair

It goes to your home location now

If I wanted it at GH I had to claim

[ivory gust]

Well, that's a change from pre-3.18, and not a good one

[pastel flame]

Yeah it sucks that now we have to go back to home location...

[clever hamlet]

I 30k'd a little while ago near some mining facility as i was about to land, logged back in, ASOP said claim, status unknown, location on whatever moon i was on, I didn't claim, instead I went back to where I was last and ship wasn't there.

So I'd have to wait for it to say Orison or something instead?

[dapper mesa]

Yes, but if you weren't in the pilot seat, it may or may not get recovered

[cinder hamlet]

Would I sell laranite, titanium and agriculum at the TDD?

[jovial matrix]

Yes

[pastel flame]

You in PTU at all Fjord? Nonstop XT on

[jovial matrix]

Nah, I’ve been playing terraria

Also computer privileges have been suspended until I start doing better in school

[pastel flame]

Ahhh... Godspeed, terraria is a good game.

[jovial matrix]

Indeed

[serene quest]

RIP the dream

[ivory gust]

Raw mined ores or refined commodities?

Raw ores are sold or refined at the refinery deck

[mossy palm]

Does anyone have a full list of all stores (KelTo, CenterMass, Dumpers Depo etc.) and where to find them? Wikis are garbage when trying to figure this out.

[jovial matrix]

!itemfinder sounds like what you need

[wary tusk]

Universal Item Finder

Use the website to search for any item (and where to buy them) in-game.

[mossy palm]

I could swear I saw somewhere a infographics pic where somone had managed to put all shops and shoptypes ibto spreadsheet.

[serene quest]

Anyone know if they ever mentioned cargo grid locking for boxes smaller than the 1scu crates?

[uneven grove]

Throw em in the cock put

[opal bobcat]

Hello, is this tool safe for use https://uexcorp.space/ ?

or https://sc-trade.tools/home this one

[jovial matrix]

yes and yes

[opal bobcat]

Okay, thanks for help

[wary ruin]

Is anyone in game right now?

[uneven grove]

yeah been playing fine for hours

[vestal ravine]

I was testing a head on suicide smash into Devlin's area with 120 crates of Scrap and each time (twice) the ship survived. This was a Freelancer Max. I finally used backspace and it broke into 4 pieces or so and 85% of the cargo gone. Crazy game at times.

[frozen locust]

so ive been a small time cargo rat been using my tarus whast the next size up for cargo running like what ship should i invest in

[pastel flame]

C2 herc

[elfin rune]

caterpilar its a bit cheaper i think

the hull series will arrive soon?

[pastel flame]

And worse

[elfin rune]

yah well, 1 step inferior

[pastel flame]

Don't hold your breath on Hull C, but who knows

[elfin rune]

hull B looks decent, A seems small to me

[pastel flame]

A is a cutie

[frozen locust]

whats the c2 combat capabilitys cus in my tarus im snug as hell

[pastel flame]

Oops

[elfin rune]

i think its small for a dedicated cargo ship

[pastel flame]

!erkul

[wary tusk]

#DPSCalculator

• Calculator • Shops • Ships • Weapons •

[pastel flame]

Check out erkul for all your ship info needs

[frozen locust]

oh thats handy thanks

okay so after checking it the herc is the step up but less gunboat more dedicat cargo so id have to get escorts if i wanted full security

[pastel flame]

True, or a single scout will do wonders

Or do as most do and YOLO it

[elfin rune]

the herc its the best cargo for the moment?

and the bigest?

[pastel flame]

Yes

[elfin rune]

i really like it

its expensive tho

and no pledge

[pastel flame]

It's relatively cheap in game

5 mil-ish

[elfin rune]

Oh not that bad

[vestal ravine]

Post 3.18.1 did a basic trade and loot and all worked out just fine!

[elfin rune]

?