industrial-professions

[regal wind]

Salvage?

[civic fog]

salvage?

if you were asking about the cargo, nope, that`s laranite

[dense burrow]

Hey guys - whats the deal with ROC mining? The collector beam does shit all these days

it it broken sometimes/works others? Or is there a trick to getting it to not be busted?

[ancient canyon]

so mining is bad?

because i only get 10k with a full ship

[ivory gust]

If it doesn't seem to be working, a few things to try:

• Exit mining mode and go back in
• Turn ROC off and back on again
• Open the storage bay in the back, remove a gem, and put it back in

[dense burrow]

ty

[misty coyote]

Where is the drone Bay door controls on the Reclaimer? Heard they could be opened

[rugged axle]

your collecting the wrong rocks. mining is easily the most profitable loop in the game right now

[ivory gust]

No way. Most of the combat professions can make more money than mining

[pliant matrix]

depends what you gather. there are guides all over youtube about what to mine and where. For example gathering quantanium is a money maker but since it's highly volatile you must have a certain strategy for it

[ancient canyon]

what should i looking for? the problem is i get so much crap in my inventory

[ivory gust]

You choose what to extract, so extract less crap

[rugged axle]

if you break a rock, and 3 pieces are 100% quant, 2 pieces are 75% quant, and 5 pieces are 10% quant. guess which ones you should be grabbing

[ancient canyon]

okay ty. but what materials are the best for mining? i forced diamonds and gold

[ancient canyon]

nice mining ship who you cant delete items xD

[rugged axle]

re-read my post...it tells you the only one you should be mining...

[ivory gust]

You can't delete items, so you choose what to extract.

[ivory gust]

Quantanium

[ancient canyon]

okay ty i will try

[rugged axle]

be aware, after you start extracting, you have 15 minutes to get to refinery

[ancient canyon]

oh lol. only with quantanium?

ow can i hold it in stone and pick up before i want to fly?

[rugged axle]

correct, its highly volatile and will explode your ship after 15 minutes

[ivory gust]

...what?

Try checking out some youtube video tutorials

[ancient canyon]

y i want to look youtube videos but all videos 40 min+

[rugged axle]

i would strongly recommend looking up "redmonster-sc" on youtube....

[ancient canyon]

when i have time i will see

😄

[rugged axle]

if you have time to play, you got time to learn how to do it 🙂

[ancient canyon]

one question. when i wait with extraction i have a lot of time or?

only when i pick it up its 15 min

[ancient canyon]

y but is sucks to watch 40 min video when im in discord with 10 people

and all talk xd

[rugged axle]

break all pieces containing quant down to purple. extract everything at once. haul butt back to refinery

[ivory gust]

Timer starts when you extract it

[ancient canyon]

oke and the spaceship explodes when the 15 min is done?

[ivory gust]

Yes

Also, when you return to the refinery with a load of quant, don't request landing--just fly up to a hangar door and let them impound you. Quant sometimes goes inert when landing

[ancient canyon]

okay. but the fee is very high, i saw 50.000

[ivory gust]

No, it's 5000, and you only have to pay if you're taking the ship out again within 15min

[misty coyote]

That's for uber trolling.... Got PTVs

[ancient canyon]

someone fly into my ship at a space station and i got in prison and 50k (1h) for the ship for that

my prospector loses all his power at mining, not sure that this material explodes

[ivory gust]

That's not impound, that's you crashing into someone

[ivory gust]

Yes, that's what happens when you overheat the rock, don't do that

[ancient canyon]

i wasnt started i was on the landing pad

i joined my ship

and then i saw a ship 0, 1 sec fly into me and i got the penalty

that was nice

[ivory gust]

game's too dumb to tell the difference

[ancient canyon]

last question for a friend. he have only a arora but rent the mining ship, when he go to refinery the ship load is instant full, did he have any chance to get only 3SU in the Arora? why he need to take all

[ivory gust]

You need to deliver the full refinery job, you can't split it

[ancient canyon]

okay then i hope i dont get 700 SU job

then nobody can take it up haha

[ivory gust]

You literally can't

the largest possible is 96

[ancient canyon]

ah okay. dont see the logic behind this but know we know

[ivory gust]

The refinery job is how much you mined

The largest mining ship (MOLE) can hold 96 SCU

[ancient canyon]

okay ty

[ivory gust]

Also, you can't use a rented mining ship to mine quant

[ancient canyon]

does anyone know what open exerior is on mining ship ?

[south linden]

every god damn time

[keen hollow]

Better than what I’m getting I’m getting less than 2500

[south linden]

lol hahaha

[ancient canyon]

oke i mined a stone with 22% quantanium. the stone is on the earth so i dont trigger the countdown. would you pick it up and search for second stone or instant pick up and go to refinery?

[ivory gust]

On the Prospector it opens a little door in the back that has a little ejection chute that doesn't do anything

[ivory gust]

Pick up and go to refinery, you don't have time to search for and break a second rock

If you find two good rocks close to each other you can do that

[south linden]

depend on how many SCU you have left but yeah, mostly jsut go to refinery, more efficient

[ancient canyon]

okay ty. what refinery technologie do you prefer for it? can i take multiple refinery methodes? for more routing

[ivory gust]

Dinyx solventation is the highest yield for lowest cost but takes the longest. Ferron exchange is the same yield for 3x speed for 2x cost

None of the others matter

[south linden]

I always use ferron, dont wanna wait for 2 days XD

[ancient canyon]

okay. when its there can i farm again or can i refinery only 1 thing at the same time?

[south linden]

you can do multiple jobs

i will run separately

it*

[ancient canyon]

ty<3

[ancient canyon]

i think you will get 10 million with that. how do you do that wtf

[ivory gust]

No, that's 32 SCU, so about 270k

[misty coyote]

That's not SCU, that's uSCU

[ancient canyon]

oke i got 200 , not worth to mine xd. or i just need experience . i only got ~200

[ivory gust]

Yeah, that sounds like you weren't extracting the right chunks, if that came from a rock that started at 20% Quant

[ancient canyon]

i got a stone with 22% quant

wasnt the biggest stone

do you prefer special mining areas? i only fly on the planet and search "Randomly"

[ivory gust]

What was the Quant percentage of the initial starting rock before you started mining? Sounds like you picked a bad rock to start with

[ancient canyon]

ah i dont watched

[ivory gust]

.. That's literally the most important thing to look at, since that tells you how much you can get from the rock

[ancient canyon]

ah you mean percentage ? it was 22%

[ivory gust]

If the initial rock, before you broke it down at all, was 22%, then you must have failed the mining process spectacularly in order to end up with only 200 units out of it

[ancient canyon]

now i can watch tutorial videos. sry that i annoyed you ^^

[ancient canyon]

i need to watch when i find ones. what percente do you prefer, above 20%? is the rock size important? what Size/Percente do you prefer

[south linden]

I always aim at at less 15% quan. dont spend too much time searching for a perfect stone. more trip = more profit.

[ancient canyon]

okay. so only quant is worth to mine? or other ores too?

[south linden]

with15% for that trip I should get about 100k profit. which is enough

if you use mole or prospector, it's for quan, other not worth your time.

[ancient canyon]

okay ty

🙂

[south linden]

@ancient canyon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTI8N7NnxsM&list=PLrObDDQHlDABAUn2vUgtfeY0fUFLTVOah
this youtube teach me everything about mining.

[ancient canyon]

okay ty. 🙂

[ivory gust]

At 5k mass, 1% = 1 SCU

So 32% at 5k mass will give (about) 32 SCU of quant.

I typically aim for 4.5k+ mass, 25%+, but will accept a very high % lower mass rock

[ancient canyon]

wtf i rly hate it. i fly since 1 hour, dont find a stone with Quan

[south linden]

wru?

[ancient canyon]

what do you mean?

[south linden]

you said you cant find a quan

wru mining at

planet or asteroid belt?

[ancient canyon]

planet daymar

[south linden]

some planet have very few quan. if you like mining on planet, I thing lyria is the best one

[ivory gust]

...why

Daymar is not where you go to mine quant

Nobody has ever suggested Daymar as a location to mine quant

[ancient canyon]

okay what are the best locations?

[ivory gust]

If you want to mine on a moon: Lyria, since all clusters are quant, so you just fly around looking for clusters
Otherwise: Asteroid belt

If for some reason you don't like either of those, the moons of microtech will be the next best

[ancient canyon]

okay i will try.

legit dont know why the bar dont fill up. only a few then zero. is the laser to weak?

[ivory gust]

A) you need a Lancet mining head to get quant
B) That mass is too high to mine without surge/stampede modules

Think how much time you would've saved if you'd just watched a tutorial video

[ancient canyon]

okay. i only rent the ship so i cant change anything from it :/

[ancient canyon]

i watch it but all tutorials are 2 years+ old

[ivory gust]

Yeah, don't do that, rented prospector is useless, can't mine quant. Better off renting ROC and Cutlass

[ancient canyon]

and all changed

[ivory gust]

If only youtube had a way of filtering down to recent results

[ancient canyon]

i have roc and cutlass but i legit get more money with all other stuff

i dont wanted to do 2 years only the same bunker mission so i tried mining

i wanted to rent it first to see how it works and is it fun for me. i dont have 2 million to buy it. i dont wanted to buy and then i dont like it

[south linden]

if you've experience with mining. some hr if you're lucky you can make up o 1 mil easy

[ancient canyon]

asteroid works well 😄

i dont know how much money it is

[rugged axle]

around 270k

[south linden]

Im so done with trading. Everytime I invest a lot, the game fcking crash when I quantum back to city. Last time 700k, gone. this time 400k, gone. fcking hell

[ivory gust]

Yep, trading is ironically the highest-risk activity in the game right now

[sage summit]

When looking for tutorial - try adding current version of game. I've started couple of weeks ago and follow this guide: https://youtu.be/elCZURyECrQ

Although I prefer mining asteroids now

[glacial dagger]

That's why I set some trading rules for myself.

1. Never spend more than half your wallet on a trade
2. Never spend more than you could comfortably look at and be like...like, I wouldn't mind losing this much

[vestal ravine]

Nice load for sure!!!

[north oyster]

I'm hoping to get some mining testing done in 3.18. So far I've not had much luck at all because of continual bugs. The VMA is now starting to work (a little) but other items like Ping angle control seem to have been remapped or not working. If anyone has some some active mining in 3.18 be sure to post about it and share thoughts and insights.

[ancient canyon]

hay how can i see on what refinery i have my loot? because i refiner on 3 different refinery

[sage summit]

Loot or refining jobs?

[ancient canyon]

refining jobs

[sage summit]

Only by going there

[ivory gust]

When the refinery job is finished, you'll get a notification when you log in telling you how many jobs are finished and where

[ancient canyon]

oh okay. and when i miss a message?

[ivory gust]

The notification shows up every time you log in

[ancient canyon]

ah okay ty 🙂

i though only 1 time show up this message

[north oyster]

yes, like they mentioned, there is a quick display of completed jobs that flashes on your screen. Unfortunately atm there is no history of messages that we can go refer to after they are shown.

[ancient canyon]

yeah. would be nice if they show refinery in niknax tab

when i sell the finished refinery materials , or general traiding compunents and i do this in my ship and store the ship, are the compunents still in ship or does it despawn?

because i playd so much other games and in all it despawns

[north oyster]

custom components in a ship are persistent except laser attachments, even if you have to claim the ship. Cargo also persist if you don't have to Claim. 3.18 will change things up a bit, but that is still be fleshed out

[misty coyote]

From some of the talks, I've seen components not persist between claims at all on 3.18....dropping that into the mix could be very interesting...

I think it's just part of the test cycle.... But really.... If you claimed to stock..... What would that be like?.

[gritty urchin]

Bruh I finna buy the cutter again, I miss the space FedEx mobile.

[mellow comet]

Can somebody help with a mining issue? I mined with a prospecter and got a bunch of minerals, and I'm now at a refinery station, but I didn't refine them, I want to sell them raw, but I can't, there's an ore sale terminal that can't select my ship, and there's a comodity trading thing in galleria where I can select my ship, but can't sell the ore...
How can you sell the ore?

So I refined it, and even refined I can't tell wtf to do with it or where to sell it

[jovial matrix]

You have to load your refined goods into a cargo ship and fly to a city to sell

[ivory gust]

Claiming to stock would be awful given how many bugs there are that can cause you to lose the ship

[mellow comet]

Yea I eventually found that out, but what about raw ore? Where do you sell that? I couldn't sell it in galeria "Admin" office (or something like that)

[jovial matrix]

There’s a terminal right by the refining terminals for selling raw ore

[ivory gust]

Raw ore can be sold at a terminal on the refinery deck when its not bugged

[mellow comet]

I couldn't select my ship at that one

[jovial matrix]

Then it’s probably bugged like Chris said

[mellow comet]

Nice, main problem with this is that a new player won't know if it's just a bug, or if it's supposed to be like that 😦

[ivory gust]

Better to refine and haul anyway, selling directly gives 50% less money

[misty coyote]

Fair... Shame because of it was genuine poor flying or getting into a fight, I think it could add an extra bit of spice

[ivory gust]

Would make bounty hunting just as risky as hauling for once

[misty coyote]

A very valid point too...

Though I can imagine a premium on component insurance might occur.

[mellow comet]

But which refining technique is worth it? They say "less yield" or "moderate yield", but no concrete numbers, and I haven't found them online either.

[ivory gust]

Dinyx solventation: Highest yield, longest time, lowest cost
Ferron Exchange: Same yield as Dinyx, 3x speed for 2x cost

None of the others matter

[mellow comet]

And once you refine the timed one, it's not timed anymore?

[glad knot]

Anyone ever have their quantum blow up their ship on the landing pad? Station get irritated?

Or blow up waiting to get scanned by cops, you think they would freak out.

Just screaming and flying away at max speed while ordering you to hurry up and dock.

[ivory gust]

As soon as you store the ship, the timer stops

[ivory gust]

Yes, there are several bugs around mining ships landing in hangars. The safe bet is to get your ship impounded by NOT calling ATC, and instead float up to a closed hangar door

[mellow comet]

Store it? With the terminal? So not as soon as you exit it after landing?

[ivory gust]

Correct

[misty coyote]

Valet parking...

[hollow sedge]

what is a good beginner cargo ship? 🙂

[simple lintel]

hello, I want to try mining with ROC, any suggestions where to go? Or maybe someone needs help with anything now?

[simple lintel]

I would say the bigger the better since it translates to more profit you can turn from the cargo. At the moment is all about how much you can invest in it. Wipe is coming soon, you will loose everything, get something small just to see how it goes and test the routs.

[hollow sedge]

Perfect, thanks! 😄 Yea i sometimes wish also small ships was good or had special purpose

[simple lintel]

wipe is coming within few weeks, you will loose everything anyhow. You need something small to test out things, have a good one

[hollow sedge]

thanks, u2!

[viral heath]

depends on what you are running?

drugs? a cutter is good enough

[civic fog]

We don't run drugs here, it is just pain relief medicine 😎

[civic fog]

Anyone with mining gadgets experience? A few weeks ago I tried to help a prospector crack an 8K rock using 10x boremax and it didnt work. Is there a rock mass limit beyond which gadgets are useless?

[north oyster]

I saw a video of someone cracking a large rock with a ROC and gadgets, so I know it does work. It might be a quantity issue, so what the gadget does is small influence and needs a lot of them to be practical, which, in turn, make them impractical

[vestal ravine]

Version 3.18 "Speed Scanning" or RS value for Lyria Quant and Gems...Found this on the Frontier Consolidated discord channel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQWWc3WW38k

[vestal ravine]

For the ROC mining if you have one or two Rocs and one or two team members on hand when you get scanning have them get in the Roc's and activate the Roc. Any gems you overfly should show up on the radar with the full details. Have one Roc forward and one facing the stern. This way the pilot only has to fly towards any targets. May save time.

[mellow comet]

Somebody told me that it's useless to try to mine quant with stock prospector, is that true?

[wheat geode]

im trying to buy Laramite to sell it from Arial but theyre out of stock now. what do i do?

[sage summit]

True. But, there is a bug you can use to put bought parts on rented ships. So if you're into using bugs, you can try that)

[warped venture]

i was trying to mine quant on lyra but i couldn't pick it up i have a prospector with a lancet mg1. the rock also overheated really fast.

[sage summit]

Couldn't pick up broken rock parts?

[warped venture]

yes

[jovial matrix]

Probably wasn’t quant then

More likely is was an ROC rock

[warped venture]

ok, whats a good way to find quant?

[sage summit]

https://youtu.be/elCZURyECrQ

[warped venture]

thanks

[sage summit]

You can use the methods in the video in asteroids mining in Aaron halo

[ancient canyon]

hay, im learning traiding at the moment, what is better, to wait for terminal for refreshes or fly to other stops for buy?

[sage summit]

Depends. How much time does it take for stock refresh / getting to another location? Try finding routes in here https://sc-trade.tools/

[ancient canyon]

i calculate since 5 days with this calculator but alltime its only 1 location to buy

and everytime i need to wait 4-5 refreshes

[ancient canyon]

i want to say this tool dont show multiple buy spots

[sage summit]

Have you used Minimum refresh rate in filters?

[ancient canyon]

wait i will test

[sage summit]

When you press Best circular route - it does

You can also fly between two points if refresh rate is high enough for your ship capacity

Like, for example, you can move Laranite from mining area 45/56 on Wala to Orphanage on Lyria

I was doing that route on rented Freelancer. Sometimes I had to wait 2-5 minutes in Mining area for a refresh.

[ancient canyon]

ah okay.

standard freelancer or MAX version?

[sage summit]

Only standard can be rented

[ancient canyon]

for example when i pick something like SLAM, im 100% my Ship dont get full , with circular route they dont show me second buy stop before selling. everytime instant selling

[ancient canyon]

okay, how much Cargo does it have?

[north oyster]

Trade at this time is really only profitable on volume, so it is skewed to the largest ships (C2, CAT, etc)

66 SCU

oh, vice is a different story, sorry

[ancient canyon]

most of the time i stand 1 hour next to an stop and waiting watching netflix or something

and farm with refreshes xd

not sure its more effective to fly to different spots

[sage summit]

Vice products (drugs) is a different story, as tripperdan pointed out

[north oyster]

Astatine from Ida to CBD in Lorville in a C2 (full load) nets about 120K, iirc

Trade is going to be totally gutted in a few patches

[ancient canyon]

i legit dont like Astatine. i get only 20k per tour

when i kill a bounty i get 25k

and this costs me 2 minutes

when i sell drugs i get 250k

[sage summit]

That's the thing with trading))

[north oyster]

250K is one trip in the Prospector

[ancient canyon]

so going afk and watch for drugs is for me the only legit traiding methode. i dont want to do bounty hunter quests 24/7, everytime same quest is boring, dont know what should i do all the time in the verse

[north oyster]

new patch will offer some interesting alternatives, imo

[ancient canyon]

y i think traiding is more worth then but you need to have fear to get camped at the sellers

i playd 2000 hours arma 3, you legit sweat everytime you sell. not sure this is good

[sage summit]

I liked how one gamer said - SC is best played for a month and then forgetting about it for a year or two))

[ancient canyon]

ow i play it since 2 weeks so i have 2 weeks left haha

[north oyster]

I'm part of the advanced testing group, so I get diversions from LIVE patch

But that often involves soulcrushing experiences

[misty coyote]

What does vice look like in 3.17 vs 18?

[north oyster]

I'm not a good source for that, I didn't test in that area. The Salvage looks great though, fleshed out pretty decently

[misty coyote]

Watched a million doubles video in an hour....

But that's in 3.18 with very lucrative.... But quite static...

Got to place A and pickup Vice.... To to place B, sell....Go to place C and repeat

[north oyster]

Come to think of it, I do not think I have ever traded in contraband the whole time I have been playing, LOL 🤔

PTU can not be used to measure trading at all

[misty coyote]

I've been thinking about it.....

I jsuy don't want to plot the same route repeatedly...

[north oyster]

Even Open PTU does not have a representation of Trade that you will find in LIVE

[ancient canyon]

when will 3.18 released?

[misty coyote]

No.... Well when Quanta turns up... M

[north oyster]

I"m thinking first of next month, but I could be wrong

PES is a beast to try to bring under control

[misty coyote]

I've been keeping an eye on things from a distance as I'm not special enough to test
..

I can't imagine how much back end tinkering is going on to not melt servers

[north oyster]

Being a victim, uh, tester, doesn't mean you're special ... except for a sacrifice

[ancient canyon]

mmh okay. i burn for the update i swear

looks nice

[north oyster]

it is almost literally a different game

[ancient canyon]

im not sure how they do the gameplay with "pirates" in the verse because you alltime QT , can they stop you there?

normally your on planet everytime

with traid ship

[misty coyote]

I've been a bit harsh on myself for not playing..... Having just bought a Reclaimer ccu, and not finding the want to get onto 3.17...

But I think it's because it really does look like a different game..

[north oyster]

@misty coyote if you enjoy multiplayer, the Reclaimer now has a home

I see the Reclaimer as the true BORG ship of SC

[misty coyote]

I really want a cargo hold with a few ship bits in it....

A cutting laser and an eye for components

And drones

[north oyster]

Munching and more true salvage will come, T0 of Salvage doesn't let the Reclaimer shine but it does give it some activities

[misty coyote]

Oh YeH... I'm in this for the long haul... Just need a good name for it..

[north oyster]

If I had one I'd be leaning towards "Hungry" "Borg" or "Final Rest"

[misty coyote]

All I can think about is "500 Miles"

[north oyster]

LOL, that works

[misty coyote]

Glad you got that...

[north oyster]

now going to hear a song in my head all day, thanks

[misty coyote]

De nada hombre....

Could be baby shark....

Oh.... No.....

[north oyster]

gone there

[misty coyote]

I hate myself

One thing would make the Reclaimer better, and that's a place for a snub of some sort....

It's so big and heavy...

Having a little run about would be the icing

[north oyster]

it's got the room to support that

Maybe on the promised refactor we can see something like that

*remodel

[misty coyote]

Like an Argo Cargo?

[north oyster]

that's a little large for it

[misty coyote]

It is...

[north oyster]

but who knows

Maybe a "dock and drag" setup

[misty coyote]

There was supposed to be a drone called the cutter.... I think they re purposed

[misty coyote]

What's this? Feels like I might know..

[north oyster]

parasite setup similar to the Connie

[misty coyote]

Yes.... That's what I was thinking with the Argo..

But I don't think they would use and Argo vehicle..... Though not sure of the lore there....

Use of Kruger isn't a big deal as they only do snub style ships.

I think I've had an argument here before on what manufacturers would use what rival as snub ships...

[mellow comet]

Did they nerf quant mining since 3.17.2?
I was following this tutorial: https://youtu.be/lTI8N7NnxsM

And unlike the man in the tutorial, it took me almost 1 and a half hours just to find a single rock with more than 10% quantanium, it's nowhere near as lucrative as this guy demonstrates.

[ivory gust]

Where were you looking?

[mellow comet]

On Lyria, the ice planet

[ivory gust]

And you were specifically looking for clusters, as called out in the video?

Sounds like super bad luck, it's never taken me that long

[mellow comet]

Yes, I went specifically for clusters, I rarely found clusters of big rocks, like 95% of the clusters I found were like 7 x 0.75 mass little rocks

[ivory gust]

Those are gems for ROC mining, shouldn't be investigating those at all

[mellow comet]

When I did find clusters of big rocks, most of them had no quantanium, a few barely had like 2% and in 1.5h I only found one with 20%

[ivory gust]

All clusters of big rocks on Lyria should be quantanium, if they weren't quant they weren't a cluster

[mellow comet]

Weird, I found a bunch with no quant

[warped venture]

i found a few rocks with 30-40% in like 15min

[mellow comet]

What the f88k

[warped venture]

go to the Loveridge Mineral Reserve

[mellow comet]

But if it's a very popular place, won't that paint a target on me? xD

[warped venture]

i didn't see anyone but you can also go to the Aaron halo asteroid belt

[mellow comet]

I went to aaron halo band 5 (as the tutorial suggested) and I found literally not a single asteroid with any amount of quantanium xD

[hollow sedge]

kind of wish the vulture would keep the filler station where you can craft the items you can now...I know devs said its temporary but wish it wasn't. Im thinking its more like a 3d printer type of crafter using salvage materials/

[vestal ravine]

For variety on the drug runs: there are different salvage yards build routes around those three.

[hoary monolith]

Is there any nuance to the current scrap mechanic? EG ways to be more efficient with skill?

[velvet totem]

no

its a pressure washer simulator atm

get closer to wreck with washer for more efficiency

[hoary monolith]

😦

I got a Cutlass Black to Vulture CCU, but now I'm not sure if I'd be better off with a prospector instead.

or even go all the way to a Taurus to stick with a multi-role cash ship

[misty coyote]

Keep the Vulture... You can do alot with it and buy a a Prospector

As RMC isn't bought, you can unload it onto a friend's hauler and keep the salvage machine rolling

[ivory gust]

Yeah, I'm not impressed with the gameplay we've seen for salvage from the PTU so far

[jovial matrix]

Why’s that?

[ivory gust]

Just doesn't seem as fun or interactive (or as lucrative) as mining

If I want to go play "spaceship salvage simulator", that's what Hardspace: Shipbreaker is for, and that's a lot more interesting way of doing it

[misty coyote]

I have that, and as much as I enjoyed the puzzle side, the incentive of, make a number go down, didn't hold me too much

You might be right about the lucrative aspect....

But this is the first time you've got actual multi crew/multi ship gameplay outside of the Mole... Which is just 2 prospectors welded together..

You can run the claim jumper mission with a Corsair and a Vulture.... Whilst scrap is made on the Vulture, the resultant is transferred to the hold of Corsair. Team work...

That's fighty, scrapy, hauly, roustabout

[ivory gust]

True, but from what I've seen, the "multi crew" is just "one guy having fun and other people in the back playing Box Stacking Simulator to do work that should have been done by robots"

[misty coyote]

You have to switch it up though.... Change jobs amd don't just go for the chicken nuggets

Fight the fights and scrape the resultant....

Infinite prospectors on those missions

Granted.... I've not done it.... And I'd be happy hauling boxes.....

But.... All they need to do....

ALL....

Add cargo to your kills...

Stop AI npc deaths.... Boom! Fps boarding action.....

Granted.... That has little to so with the salvage loop now I say it out loud...

If you're talking about keeping a Vulture or not.... You could rent that ship out....

RMC isn't bought, so can be sold from owned ships of the renter.

Yes, it's fiddly, but that sounds like a them problem

[pastel flame]

If it's anything like how the Quant meta changed mining they can leave it out of salvage thanks

175k for a chill salvage run in a vulture seems pretty well tuned to me

Vulture also gives you a bucc

[ivory gust]

There was an indication that AC loaners (like buc for vulture) won't be in the PU in the near future

[pastel flame]

when cig uses the words near future in tandem I don't put much weight on them

Could be a year

Not to mention you can go out with a stock vulture and crush your profession, in a prospector that's not the case

[marble crater]

the fact you can salvage another players ship makes it more appealing for me

[wary ruin]

Do you guys think with the wipe coming upgrading a cutlass black to prosecutor would be a good idea?

[ember star]

If you like mining

[torn forge]

The Cutlass Black can do ROC mining, but it can also do bunkers, hand salvage, bounties, light trading, etc. The Prospector is a dedicated mining rig for someone who's down to mine for several consecutive sessions.

The Prospector is much more profitable for mining than a Cutlass Black, although it helps to have a hauler available to move refined minerals. For that reason, it might make sense to keep the Cutlass and buy a Prospector in-game: You'll be able to use the Cutlass to transport refined quantanium etc

Or go the other way and rent the Cutlass in-game. Whatever makes you happy

[ivory gust]

he's asking about a prosecutor, not a prospector...no idea what a prosecutor is

[velvet totem]

yeah they need to buff the other ores so the gap between quant and (other) isnt so big

quant effectively made all other ores useless

[jovial matrix]

They need to give us a reason to mine stuff that isn’t just profit

Like you need certain rocks to make certain things, like how eve online does it

[velvet totem]

It will be that way eventually but crafting wont be coming to the game for a very long time still

so right now profit is why you do anything in the game atm other than "for fun"

[jovial matrix]

Yeah

[pastel flame]

Another aspect people don't seem to bring up much is how risky salvage is going to be compared to mining

Unless the way spawns change the L points are going to be risky business

[marble crater]

I think cargo running will be pretty high risk next patch tbh. it's already high risk from losing your cargo from crashes let alone being the subject of piracy + hull scraping

[pastel flame]

Just in my anecdotal experience it's very easy to catch a vulture salvaging near a Lagrange station in comparison to catching a cargo runner. But probably both...

[marble crater]

will they be adding salvage wrecks to the Halo?

[pastel flame]

I haven't heard anything about that, but I haven't gone to look. Everyone is just hitting L stations or killing stuff.

[marble crater]

fair enough yeah Lagrange points will be pretty spicy if they limit wrecks to those spots

[pastel flame]

I actually look forward to that because it could create some amazing gameplay....

[torn forge]

Oh I thought the fields of 890s there were explicitly just for testing

[little stratus]

honestly kind of wish trade isn't so stupidly risky and low profit

[hollow sedge]

We need cargo missions to move cargo from one place to another for a pay. Like actual missions you accept on your mobiglass and you won't risk losing huge amounts of aUEC. Honestly I'm surprised it isn't a thing yet, I can't see how it would require anymore complicated technology to implement.

[little stratus]

yes absolutely, freight contracts, it's the only way freighters like the Hull series will even make sense

[hollow sedge]

I could see the Hull-C and freight contracts being released together. Whenever that will be.

[finite moth]

Any one got a good rout for distilled spirits?

[quaint badge]

You can haul processed food?

that's got

a margin

[vestal ravine]

The various drugs work if you have the space bucks to finance them. Not all is lost.

[pastel flame]

Cargo needs major buffs and I was a bit shocked to see CIG not changing values in 3.18, but if they can nerf xmas presents the sky's the limit 😛

[vestal ravine]

Members of the Frontier consolidated discord channel offer a "contract" for 12 or so trade runs to build xyz device. You post a screenshot of each sale. Then you get a big payout on top of the sales earnings. I did it once kinda cool.

Could this group do something like that?

[shell sorrel]

any prospector set up guides

wanna start belt mining

[kindred gust]

Get the MH1 Laser

[shell sorrel]

what modules

[sage summit]

I'm doing Impact I laser with two Focus III modules + Brandt

Doing good so far

[mellow comet]

Wtf I had 7 minutes on volatile cargo then suddenly went down to 10 seconds after I landed, and I landed as gently as possible and didn't hit anything...

[shell sorrel]

what rock size can you get with that

[sage summit]

Around 5200. I mine at Aaron halo and stumble only on two sizes - something like 4920 and 5200

[oblique gazelle]

Should i belt mine or just go on lyria? I started belt mining a while ago but the unscannable rocks made it a bit frustrating.

[shell sorrel]

easy fix

leave ship comms

then rejoin

[oblique gazelle]

Maybe i should stick to belt mining, since the rocks on lyria seems to evaporate from existence

[sage summit]

What does that mean?

[shell sorrel]

completely leave ship

[sage summit]

It's pure luck. I have days with 80% beings unscannable. On other days - around 10%.

[shell sorrel]

until it says you have left comms

then get back on ship

and u can scan

[oblique gazelle]

Yea, when i started i found 32SCU rocks in a matter of half an hour, now i have to scout for like 2-3 hours

[sage summit]

I thought that rocks are not scannable because tungsten in them. Not because it's a bug.

[oblique gazelle]

Yea no, it's a bug

[shell sorrel]

u can tell if a rock has quant without scanning too

do mining modules get replenished when restocking

or do you have to buy fresh ones

[ivory gust]

Don't land, always impound

[ivory gust]

Need to buy fresh ones. Modules are also lost when claiming the ship.

It's annoying since not all modules are sold everywhere. I recommend taking a larger cargo ship to the station that sells the module you want, and picking up a lot of them, then hauling them all to the station you mine out of

[mellow comet]

How?

[ivory gust]

#industrial-professions message

[mellow comet]

danke schnell

[velvet totem]

Anyone know if they fixed this in 3.18?

[ivory gust]

I doubt it, but I haven't confirmed

[velvet totem]

Darn. Still not bug fix for

1. MOLE HUD UI bugging out all the time with QT UI not showing and monitor/screens constantly flickering on and off
2. Activating mining arms makes you go into space with no windows/atmosphere
3. High chance of quantatnium ore going inert when landing in docking station (regardless of time remaining)

[slate badger]

anyone have a link to the concept video of the caterpillar cockpit detaching?

[mellow comet]

How much crimestat do you get for that and how much is the fine?

[ivory gust]

No crimestat. The fine is only 5k, but you only need to pay it if you're taking the ship back out within 15min

[mellow comet]

Ah, not that much, thanks for the info!

[ivory gust]

Yep, definitely worth it compared to losing a full quant load imo. I usually take a break after one trip anyway and don't have to pay the fee

[velvet totem]

Is the Argo RAFT good for literally anything?

[ember star]

Yeah, it’s a entry level cargo ship

[velvet totem]

Entry level? It's pretty pricey and has no ramp

[marble crater]

the Cargo container portion of Cargo Refactor hasn't been implemented yet (eg moving containers from Hull Series ships) so the Raft is still waiting for its gameplay

[ember star]

Yeah it's considered entry level

[wary shale]

Are the minerals you get from hand mining worth more or less than those you get from Roc mining? I feel like I got more for less from hand mining than using a roc

[ivory gust]

Things you mine by hand are exactly the same as ROC mining, but things you loot from enemy corpses are worth 10x per

[wary shale]

Oh, fascinating. So thats why they were so valuable, I got those from doing a cave mission. So taking the cave missions and killing for their gems will give you a crime stat, but are worth a lot more as a result?

[jovial matrix]

you dont get a crime stat

[wary shale]

Are you sure? I did the cave assasination mission recently and I definitely got a crimestat for killing the guys in it

[jovial matrix]

was it a personal mission? The ones from the general tab dont give you a crimestat

[wary shale]

Personal mission, so that would be it. Where do you go to get cave missions with npc's on them from the general tab?

[jovial matrix]

from the bounty section

you get them around crusader and hurston, dunno about MT and arccorp

[supple gazelle]

anyone want to help a sad man crack a 6k rock thats 47% quant?

I forgot to re equip my modules

[wary ruin]

Where is the best place to mine quantatnium?

[supple gazelle]

lyria or the aron halo

[wary ruin]

What do I need for my prospector to mine Quantatnium

[supple gazelle]

all you really need is a lancet mh1 mining head, but you can also buy modules that have different effects to help with the big rocks

[wary ruin]

I looked up the info I think I found a good vidoe

[sterile bronze]

friends, can i buy empty boxes to put on the back of the aurora and use as storage for ore that i collected manually?

[jovial matrix]

You can use the internal inventory to store hand mined gems, but you can’t use it to store ore you mine with a prospector/mole

[sterile bronze]

thank you buddy

[mellow comet]

So I followed a tutorial on mining and it recommended the Lancet laser, but I was unable to crack a 7000 mass rock with it, even after overclocking the laser.
What did I do wrong?

[misty coyote]

Tried to crack a 7000 mass rock solo

Lancet has a power drop, but increases stability, perfect for Quant

But it's limited to 4-5k rocks solo

You'd need to have some modules installed, like Stampede or....The other one... Surge...To boost the power....

But then, you're risking popping the rock

Or, get a friend to come along with any sort of prospector...Rental is fine...

If you start with the rock, they are just amplifying. You controller the power and do the balancing

Or they start.....Or it doesn't matter...I forget.

Either way, 2 people will crack 7000k

Oh...>Mining gadgets too....That will help

[mellow comet]

are mining gadgets not the mining modules?

[mellow comet]

also does mouse wheel to control the laser power work finnicky for you guys too? If I just scroll once it doesn't do anything, if I scroll twice it goes past like 3-4%

[misty coyote]

Yes, it's rubbish

If you can, find a flight stick with a slider....

I got a knob, but it was a similar story..

[mellow comet]

I didn't try this, but can you manually move the slider if you hold F and drag it?

[velvet totem]

no

the finicky-ness of the power guage is due to rock instability. all rocks have it and different modules can help reduce its effect on your laser

[misty coyote]

It's not the rock power gauge, it the laser power... A scroll up might give you 1%, 2% or none...

Having a slider is just magical compared.

[dusky junco]

so the kiosk is glitched somehow and I can't sell dolvine

greyed out

[grand steppe]

anyone working on a spreadsheet for how much (give and take) certain ships have in RMC if fully picked clean?

[ivory gust]

Is the dolovine stolen?

[dusky junco]

I took it from some random crate that had a backpack

so prob?

is that why?

[ivory gust]

Possibly, if it's stolen you'll need to sell it at a "no questions asked" terminal instead of an admin terminal

[dusky junco]

ah ok I'll just throw them out

[wary ruin]

Anyone want to help me with Quntainium mining in game. I am trying to figure out whats the best way.

[prisma scarab]

Honestly your best watching some youtube guides as they go through the process. I've got a guide here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f19MST22LpY but if you check this channel and youtube there are plenty more. Your first step is to get the ship, you wont want to mine quantanium with a rented prospector as its quite tricky. Certainly do able just more hassle than its worth. Just ensure to get a Lancet MH1 laser once you got your prospector (not rented) it will help so much.

[plain silo]

what’s the best way to make money out of cargo, mining or salvaging?

[mellow comet]

Why can't I jettison cargo with ALT + J?

I have the volatile cargo timer

[dusky junco]

why do half of the ores dont scan in asteroid belt

[ivory gust]

Doesn't work until it's red I think

[mellow comet]

What's up with all these random limitations?

[ivory gust]

Why would you want to jettison cargo unless it's about to explode?

It's supposed to be an emergency button

[mellow comet]

If you take 95% inert material by mistake, for example

[ivory gust]

It's not intended to be a way to get rid of unwanted materials

[mellow comet]

Why would that matter though? For example, pulling the plug on my PC isn't the "intended" way to turn it off, but there's nothing stopping me from doing that when I want to turn it off :/

[dusky junco]

also the scrollwheel is so laggy it juumps from below optimal to overcharge

[jovial matrix]

That’s server lag

[dusky junco]

which makes mining 10x harder

[jovial matrix]

Yeah

[ivory gust]

Because in order for the jettison system to work it requires the quant to be close to exploding. It uses the energy present in the unstable quant to power the ejection itself. For non-quant, or for quant that isn't close to unstable, the ejection can't work.

I totally made that up.

[mellow comet]

xD

[cerulean lichen]

Just waiting for the update these days. Really want to get back to mining lyria but with a wipe coming with the update lacking motivation to mine right now

[robust juniper]

Too bad new cargo system doesnt snap small boxes to the grid too. Hope it will in the future… or one could fit them in a container like on the ships we see at crashsites so it fits a 1 scu spot

[velvet totem]

Too bad we still cant buy 1-SCU containers in 3.18....

Not sure why...

[robust juniper]

That is true too. But i am anolayer which enjoy scavenging. So i run around on crash sites and pick up all the small boxes. And sell them. So it would be usefull to be able to snap them on the grid.

Or they should atleast have crashed ships that has 1 scu cargo boxes on board

[full mantle]

morning..!

[cerulean lichen]

Just wonder if pirating will be worse or the same as it is now after the update

[ivory gust]

most likely worse considering the pirates will be able to take the cargo from your ship now

[cerulean lichen]

Well that’s wonderful…. Hopefully with my main cargo runners being a Corsair and one day a spirit I can fly under the radar and be seen as a normal ship instead of one carrying valuables

[dusky junco]

I hope they fix unscannable ores literally 50% of them are unscannable

[hollow sedge]

I saw alot of trading route videos but I don't think any of them seems to actually work since the price and supply keeps chaing

I've tried using UEX but not sure what I should be doing there

[dusky junco]

why is prospector's crosshair not centered

oh and now quantanium blows up in 4 minutes? amazing

[ivory gust]

No, it blows up 15 minutes after first collected...or when you land in a hangar and trigger one of those bugs

[dusky junco]

I was landing and itt blew up even before touchdown

[ivory gust]

Yep, you went into a hangar. Don't do that

Don't call ATC. Float up to a closed hangar door and wait for your ship to get impounded. If you don't get the impound message in ~30seconds try a different hangar.

There are a bunch of bugs around quant and landing in hangars, only safe bet is to impound instead

[dusky junco]

I swear this game tries to make you not play

[ivory gust]

it's an alpha. there are bugs.

[subtle musk]

so im on Daymar and have these goods i can buy
what are the most profitable, and where can i see them if i got CS?

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[subtle musk]

welp doesnt matter anyway since my game crashed lol

[narrow wren]

So it’s usually WiDoW and NEON that make money. But SLAM always ends up having the most profit to cost ratio

And in a Titian which has not much cargo space. You’d get more bang for your buck running SLAM

[jovial matrix]

Good luck selling the slam

[subtle musk]

is SLAM explosive?

[jovial matrix]

It would be faster and more profitable to do two or three runs of etam than it would be to do one run of slam/widow

[subtle musk]

ah alright

[jovial matrix]

Nope

[subtle musk]

ya i noticed that i can sell E'tam at the scrapyard on Daymar for a lot

really short trip

[jovial matrix]

Yup

Don’t bother with widow, slam, or maze. Maze you can’t even buy and the other two take hours to sell, even in very small quantities

[subtle musk]

alright tysm!

[narrow wren]

I mean. I made 300k in a hour running slam

And I only had about 76 cargo slots

[subtle musk]

i got 8

[pastel flame]

It's too bad we still don't have good medium sized cargo on the horizon. Risky flights in a Freelancer or MSR running contraband.

[lilac dew]

^yup

[umbral vale]

Connie?

[hollow sedge]

any idea why i cant scan asteroidsi n my mole.

[velvet totem]

Because 70% of asteroids are bugged

and cant be scanned

[clever wren]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[open imp]

how many works can you do on a refinery? Is there a number limit to it?

[vestal ravine]

Generally unlimited but wipes can cancel them out.

[ancient canyon]

Hay , is there a chance to give my friend rights to sell my Cargo on my ship?

[velvet totem]

No

Question: What's the best resource online to find the best places/prices for selling refined mienrals?

[ivory gust]

Refined minerals all sell for the same price anywhere. Just go to the closest major city TDD to sell them (unless Orison is the closest, in which case you probably want to go elsewhere until 3.18)

[velvet totem]

Ok thanks!

[vestal ravine]

Voice channel sound check in room 14 please...

[velvet totem]

This station?

Or no?

[ivory gust]

I don't think so, where is that?

[velvet totem]

Administration office in Hurston. Struggling to find "TDD" here

I know where it is in Area 18 but thats it ):

[ivory gust]

!map_lorville

[wary tusk]

Lorville City Map

Graphic by Citko

[velvet totem]

You'd THINK ithis is where you sell mienrals huh? xD

[ivory gust]

No, I said TDD, not Admin

[velvet totem]

no im just saying the map is confusing lol

because it says minerals

[ivory gust]

Take tram from spaceport to Central Business District, go up the stairs and left, there's a big room with lots of terminals that looks like a stock market trading center

That's where you sell gems from ROC mining (admin)

[velvet totem]

oooh good to know for the future

[plain silo]

is daymar a good place for hand mining?

[ivory gust]

Generally you want caves for hand mining. Daymar has a couple but they're hard to find if you don't have a mission for them.

Also, hand mining makes very little money and is generally a waste of time compared to other possible activities

[torn forge]

I thought it was considered the best way to make money in a starter ship?

[viral heath]

Bunkers and bounties always

[plain silo]

what other stuff would you reccomend bc i am rubbish at fighting

[ivory gust]

Delivery missions until you earn enough money (~40k) to rent a Cutlass and ROC

If your starter is a Nomad or Cutlass you don't need that rental and can just rent the ROC for 5k

You can potentially also get cave investigation missions that won't have combat and will lead you to a cave where you can hand mine

[plain silo]

how much do you averagely make with that method?

[ivory gust]

Delivery missions are 8k per mission, 15-20min. Roc mining is 100-200k/hr

[plain silo]

k thanks

[exotic night]

Do u guys make slot money doin salvage??

[swift flint]

would be interesting to know as well for when 3.18 comes out

but vulture probably won't be buyable in-game right when 3.18 drops

[hollow sedge]

im at brios breaker yard and i went to the trading console but it doesnt show anyt stock. is it out of stock or am i doing something wrong?

[ivory gust]

What were you expecting it to sell, and why were you expecting it to sell that?

[misty coyote]

It won't, but you can do all you need to a point from a loaned Vulture.

RMC is made, not bought so it has no owner. You'd need to ferry it out of the Vulture into a ship you owned. But I'd do that anyway and double team

I'm considering renting out my Reclaimer whilst I do other game loops

[pliant matrix]

Or you can be the pilot and let others do the job and split profits too. I don't see someone or a crew paying someone to borrow a ship knowing you could log out anytime and so ruin their activity

[misty coyote]

Logging out doesn't despawn the ship

AFAIK in 3.18

If it does, then you're right of course.... Claiming too is a problem

To despawn a ship you need to bed log, and they've said your can't bed log whilst others are in the ship

[pliant matrix]

Iirc couple years ago a ship would despawn shortly after owner logged out. I'd that issue many times when trying other people ships. But today idk tbh

[misty coyote]

3.18 will rock PES, so I don't think you can despawn a ship by just disconnecting.

Actually, I'm sure the owner of a ship we were in logged out and we landed his ship for him later that night.... But we were in a group then....

[velvet totem]

I can tell you it doesnt do that anymore in live version of the game atm. I let my org use my ships all the time when im logged out. they never despawn on them unless they all leave the ship.

[plain silo]

When you do mining in a roc can you refine that stuff to make more or can you only refine stuff from a ship?

[civic fog]

hiring roc operator... 100k/hr payment

[civic fog]

no refining required for roc mining. you directly sell gems

[plain silo]

where is the best place to go roc mining?

[cinder lantern]

Aberdeen

[plain silo]

thanks

[plain silo]

where do you spawn in the roc like what is the name of the place on the map?

[pliant matrix]

Arial works too. Less cliffy and brighter imo

[vestal ravine]

Most all the Platinum Bay garages can spawn a ROC plus the surface entrance areas like NBIS and Area 18 has. There might be others.

[plain silo]

how much does 1 scu hadanite sell for?

[regal wind]

Best ship to do cargo

Limit 3 mil because a have 1 mil

[plain silo]

What’s the average amount of money you can make in an hour with the grey cat roc

[regal wind]

Maybe 500k max

[plain silo]

Do you know any good guides for it?

[regal wind]

Idk it depends on ore

[ivory gust]

No way, that's Prospector mining. ROC mining is 100-200k/hr

[regal wind]

Wat

[ivory gust]

YouTube, "Idiots GUIDE to ROC Mining for SIMPLE people like me"

[ivory gust]

You're not making 500k/hr mining in a ROC, that would be filling the thing twice in an hour

[plain silo]

Thanks for the help!

[regal wind]

[wanton grail]

just got a full load of quant and came back to the station

its now saying i dont have any and its all "inert materials" and i cant refine them

[ivory gust]

Did you land in the hangar or did you get impounded?

[wanton grail]

landed

[ivory gust]

Don't do that

[wanton grail]

wym

[ivory gust]

Don't call ATC. Float up to a closed hangar door and wait for your ship to get impounded. If you don't get the impound message in ~30seconds try a different hangar.

There are a bunch of bugs around quant and landing in hangars, only safe bet is to impound instead

[wanton grail]

too late now ig

[ivory gust]

yes, but now you know for the future

[subtle musk]

I got a bunch of Dolivine from a cave mission
where do i sell it? rn on HDMS-Anderson cause i saw you can sell it here, but i got no clue where (and it was close)

NVM found it

ddaaamn those cave missions are so much more lucrative

[jovial matrix]

They are

[pastel jewel]

So I rented the prospector and it is not letting change the mining laser and Modrell

[jovial matrix]

thats intentional, you cant change the components or weapons on rentals

[slate topaz]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[plain silo]

what should I get for mining, prospector or cutty black for transporting a roc?

[regal wind]

Prospector will make more money if right things

[velvet totem]

Where do I sell Tungsten? Seems I cant tell it at the TDD in Area 18

[vestal ravine]

Left click it so it's in the center panel...

[thin escarp]

@plain silo prospector imo is less buggy than a roc

you do need a cargo ship to transport your refined materials you mine

a cutty black can transport 1 prospector load

roughly

or 2 really bad loads

[ivory gust]

Have to select your ship in the "source" drop down on the left

[cold thorn]

What website is that that has the distances listed for each band of the Halo?

[ivory gust]

https://cstone.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes

[cold thorn]

@ivory gust Thanks!

[waxen coral]

What's the best way to do rented prospector mining?

[ivory gust]

Don't

[waxen coral]

And If I want to?

[ivory gust]

There are probably YouTube videos on using a rented Prospector

[plain silo]

Why would you need that where do you sell it bc don’t you just go to refinery , refine and then sell it?

[thin escarp]

you go sell it on area 18

or lorville

once refined you load it on a cargo ship to go sell

you cannot put refined materials back on ur prospector

@plain silo

[ivory gust]

Can't sell refined ore at the refinery, only at major cities, so you need to transport it

[ocean wedge]

does anyone know how to fix the bug where the greycat roc arm does not move or shoot laser

[plain silo]

@thin escarp @ivory gust thanks!

1 last question

[thin escarp]

ok

[plain silo]

Which should I get first then, prospector or cutty black bc at the moment the only ship I have is the auoura mr

[thin escarp]

you can rent a cutty black pretty cheap and use it to sell the refined goods

cutty is cheaper than a prospector though. 2.1 mil ish for prospector. plus you gotta upgrade some stuff.

honestly with the coming patch i'd just learn how to mine in general. i have some guides pinned in this channel if you wanna check those out. huge help

[plain silo]

At the moment I’ve been renting cutty black and roc to do mining but okay

[cold thorn]

Is there a good module set up for the Prospector that is for mining stuff other than Quant?

Most people are talking about Quant mining and what to get for that. I'm wondering if there is a better loadout for mining the other stuff.

[sage summit]

Why though?

[cold thorn]

@sage summit Because I dont want to mine Quant right now. Because there are other minerals to mine.

[velvet totem]

The reason you can't find it is because ore/mineral prices need a rebalancing

Quantanium is the only thing worth mining atm

The rest of the ores are complete trash

They need to be buffed

Hopefully they buff them soon

[cold thorn]

See you say, "worth." That word holds little meaning to me. It's not about making the most money for me. I just don't know a lot about modules and am curious if anyone else knows about other loadouts.

By the way, I'm not saying your wrong. It probably does need some improvement.

[velvet totem]

If you don't care about efficiency like you said, you can use any modules. They all work for mining non-Quantanium.

[ocean wedge]

how to fix the bug where i use extraction mode on the greycat and cannot extract the minerals

[viral heath]

titan or cutter for slam running?

[viral heath]

claim a new one at the pb pad

[viral heath]

cant go wrong with surge stampede

[viral heath]

also he meant there isnt any more efficient mining material other than quant. you spend almost the same time mining other mats for less profit

[red copper]

is the drake mule any good for moving cargo?

[viral heath]

soon(tm)

when cargo refactor is fully implemented

[ivory gust]

Even worse, you'd spend more time mining non-quant stuff since everything other than Quant is hard to find in large quantities

[vestal ravine]

"Drug" run results from 9 trips of mixed sizes mostly in a C2. The gross profit is $3,239,186.00. The time investment is not to bad you just fly to the 2 spots, buy, wait for a second cycle then fly to a different moon for the sale. Generally combat log after that. But it's quite costly to invest in. Here's a look at the biggest C2 load over a two day period. (Image)

[subtle musk]

I bought some drugs materials but its not showing up in my ship. In the console it says its full, is this a common issue?

got my cargo to be sold anyway

[viral heath]

so mainly stock up on all the drugs on one location twice? and bed log after one sale?

[vestal ravine]

Hi. At each location buy, return to ship power on for radar use and quick escape if needed then go back in 10 to 15 minutes later. Buy again take off and do the same at second spot then sell. You don't gain a whole lot by returning to Port and switching servers per se. And sometimes the second purchase is more scu than the first. We can do a run if you want just let me know. I am also setting up for a run to the 2 Jumptown sites.

[viral heath]

nah.. it fine..

[vestal ravine]

For the bed logging aspect I feel safer going back to the main hanger to store but I suppose that could work out from up in space. But the risk loss escalates a lot if you buy and hold but if have like 10 million to play around with losing 3-4 million is tolerable if you lose the cargo. Risk is part of the reward for trade runners.

[blazing harness]

Its the prospector or mole better for mining quantanium?

[hollow sedge]

Depends if you are mining alone then the prospector will be the better option, if you are mining with multiple people then the mole is the better choice

[blazing harness]

Gotcha. Is the Mole available for purchase on the store or subscriber store? Or is it better to just buy both ships in game? I really just wanna have a good money maker available to me when a wipe happens. I don't plan on whaling too hard.

[hollow sedge]

You can pledge for it yes. If you want to have a good money maker right after the wipe then i would definitely pledge for it even though its not cheap. If you are not able to do it then just save up for a prospector they around the 2 mil mark

[blazing harness]

Gotcha

[hoary monolith]

About how long would it take salvaging in a Vulture to afford a Cutty Black (1.4m aUEC)? I'd debating if I should apply the CCU I bought.

[misty coyote]

Keep the Vulture.... You can't buy or rent a Vulture in game, and won't for a while.

Each SCU is 7k ish.... Won't take long.

[velvet totem]

Are there different types of salvage? Or do they all make the same standard salvage crate that's worth the same?

[prisma scarab]

At the moment its just one type in the crate.

[vital juniper]

What's good to trade?

I've been running astatine but it's hard for me to fill up on it

NO

I LOST 600K DUE TO A 30K

[vital juniper]

I kept the load

This game doesn't want me to sell this load lol

I 30k'd and crashed trying to sell it

[vital juniper]

Just lost another 600k because of a 30k

[misty coyote]

Cargo is protected from 30k aren't they?

[toxic citrus]

Usually, yes

That does not include personal disconnections however

[vital juniper]

yep

How i lost my first load

[toxic citrus]

[simple portal]

anyone got any good routes I can do in C2?

[high wren]

any other mole miners around? have had the mole for a while but not sure if its more efficient than just running a crew of 3 or 4 prospectors. saw some vids on it but you still have to find those 8k quant rocks with 30% or more to make it worth it.

[hollow sedge]

Multiple prospectors in my opinion are better. Because I e can stay and be a beacon for the other to come back

[velvet totem]

I CANNOT wait to be able to bookmark points in space ❤️

[marsh trellis]

Is someone able to help me get on my feet so I can rent a ROC and a ship that can carry it?

with mining

[velvet totem]

Is that a round about way of asking for money?

[marsh trellis]

nvm someone sent me a msg

Im not asking for money

i want to work for it

[simple portal]

just do a few bunkers missions, a Cutlass Black and Greycat ROC are no more than 40k to rent for a day

[plain silo]

Is there any cheaper ship than the cutlass black that can easily hold a roc?

[livid siren]

Yes, the Nomad.

[vital juniper]

I've been testing out titaniumand laranite vs astatine

I've noticed I can usually only get one full load of astatine on MT

I get the load of astatine and sell it at NB

Then I go to Hurston and either pick up a load of Laranite and Titanium at Arial or a load of Astatine at Ita

Then fly back and sell it at NB

I still don't know what is best

But I like selling at NB because you can land outside and skip dealing with the spaceport, storing your ship, and the train ride

[vital juniper]

Oops

That was a mistake

I pressed it out of curiosity lol

[vital juniper]

You can also get loads of astatine at Ita then sell it at port olisar

It kinda has the same effect

[simple portal]

I've done the Hurston one it's just kind of a long trek to the trade area which is why I was against it

I was doing the MT one last night but apparently caterpillar didnt want to take off and I got stuck on a tree so I rage quit lol

[vital juniper]

A tree outside of NB?

[vital juniper]

And wdym by this

Selling at lorville?

[simple portal]

was near where I bought the asetine or however you spell it

and yeah selling on lorville

[vital juniper]

I don't sell at lorville

[simple portal]

where?

[vital juniper]

I sell at NB

I can land outside of the commons and run inside

[simple portal]

I mean the titanium at Lorville lol

[vital juniper]

Hmm?

Selling the titanium?

I also sell the titanium at NB

[simple portal]

Oh really

isn't that really slow though

[vital juniper]

Skipping the train ride and spaceport saves you a lot of time

Plus I have a C2 with a TS2

[simple portal]

but you still have to QT like 22m km

[vital juniper]

I've seen someone run it compared to the Lorville route

And it was quicker slightly

[simple portal]

I don't get how but fair I will try it

[vital juniper]

Plus doing that means that im already at MT and can get a load of Astatine

[simple portal]

So you go Arial then NB then to one of the outposts on MT load up on gas then back to NB?

[vital juniper]

Yep

SDM-10 from what I've seen gives me a full load

I've never gotten a full load from SDM-22

But if you stop there and at SMCa-6 at Calliope then I think you can get pretty much a full load

[plain silo]

Can you have multiple orders of any ore being refined at the same time?

[ivory gust]

Yes

[plain silo]

Thanks also is salvaging in the live 1.17.4 at the moment?

[ivory gust]

No

[plain silo]

K

[simple portal]

@vital juniper tried the run, got good profit and was able to stock up a good chunk of laranite, also good shout on going to SDO-10 I was able to get a full load of gas

[vital juniper]

yep

Made a mil doing it yesterday

Im doing some Bunkers now because cargo can get boring

[simple portal]

Yeah it can get boring but I normally watch some TV in the background, I’ll do a full test tomorrow when I’m at work as I spent most of today driving around MT with a friend just exploring

[velvet totem]

I get 30k waay too often to do pricey trade runs haha

[sly ravine]

Why did all of my quantanium that i spend an hour mining turn into inert material

I had 7+ minutes to spare

[misty coyote]

A bug...
Hover near a hanger until you're blocking a flight bay. Wait until they park your ship.

Wait 15 minutes

Works 100% of the time..... 60% of the time

It could have gone critical and blown you up. You're somewhat lucky there.

[simple portal]

He got the lesser evil

[ivory gust]

You landed in a hangar. Don't do that.

Sir Mattius described the workaround above

[vestal ravine]

Yea I had one of those last night but it brought my ship back with cargo intact! I am working on a full load of these drugs in an A2 just for kicks. But I have a lower than usual financial margin so it could destroy future trade options if I get shot down. But it's on an Alt account and we have a wipe coming up so can be more reckless. Ohh ya another weird episode last night. After the 30K I was in the hanger preparing to leave and another player was attacking ships outside. People were commenting on this so I kept the barn doors closed. Just then a player called me out for having "illegal drugs" on the ship. Which I did. From what I know the station would not fire on me if I left but does this mean I am a Pirate? Is my ship red? Can a white/blue player attack me without getting a crime stat? Any advice? Thx...

[brave quartz]

hello

am i doing something wrong?

mining worked just fine for me the other day

this isnt the only rock its happened to

[plain silo]

This happened to me once for me it was the only one that it did happen to but if ur not in a rush just leave and rejoin

[brave quartz]

can i leave and rejoin anywhere or will my rover despawn

[jovial matrix]

Your rover will despawn, gotta put it in your ship, land at a station/city, store your ship, and then log out and back in

[brave quartz]

figured it out!!!!

nvm i was wrong

had it working for a sec after repair looks like i do need to reset

[ivory gust]

Ghost rocks, happens sometimes. Usually indicates an issue with the server

[brave quartz]

they arent ghost rocks

the ROC is bugged

[ivory gust]

... The video you posted is literally what ghost rocks are. You can drive through them, too

[brave quartz]

and that was every single rock

not just one

i reset the ROC then every single rock was fine to mine

[ivory gust]

Yes, that's what happens.

[brave quartz]

and i can drive through normal rocks that i can mine FYI

[ivory gust]

By "reset" you mean what?

[brave quartz]

relog

new instance of the ROC

[ivory gust]

Which puts you onto a different server. Like I said, it's a server issue

[brave quartz]

so then whyd you fabricate the part about being able to drive through as if its evidence

i can do that right now with non ghost rocks

[ivory gust]

K

[old gale]

How does one scan in a roc

[faint lance]

should be tab last i checked

[old gale]

Thank you @faint lance

Is aphorite unstable?

[faint lance]

im not sure, i havent done any trading or cargo i just got donated 10mil and looking at buying a C2 lmao

[jovial matrix]

It’s a mid tier gem, not as good as hadanite, but better than dolovine

I only mine hadanite when I roc mine, but if you don’t care about getting the most profit possible then aphorite is fine

[old gale]

Is deymar still a good place to go mining?

[jovial matrix]

its decent for ROC mining

its where I do all my roc mining, even if aberdeen is supposed to be better

[hazy laurel]

Can I mine straight away with the prospector? Do i need a sub module to mine?

[worthy matrix]

does the optimal range matter when mining

[sly ravine]

wdym by that

like hover outside or hover in?

and what if the timer runs out?

[vestal ravine]

I just found that daymar cave place, or one of them, but some players were there and fly up right by them and nobody died lol.

[ivory gust]

Don't call ATC, float up to a closed hangar door (stay outside). You'll get a short timer saying that your ship is about to be impounded

Think of it as valet parking

[elder talon]

how do i activate my brandt module in my prospector?

[faint lance]

where can i go for cargo in microtech?

[sly ravine]

so you want them to impound you?

[jovial matrix]

Yes

[sly ravine]

and u just do that every run?

[ivory gust]

Yes

[elder talon]

omg FINALLY i managed to mind quantinium successfully

it so hard even tho i believe i have the best modules

impact I
2x Focus III
Brandt

is that good?

also what do the mining gadgets do?

[ivory gust]

No. You want a Lancet laser.

[elder talon]

but everything else is fine?

also what refinement method should i use

dinyx or ferron?

i dont mind the watiitng time

[ivory gust]

When you have the Lancet you don't need the Brandt, I'd recommend a Surge and Stampede instead if you're mining on a moon to allow you to mine larger rocks

[ivory gust]

Ferron is same yield as Dinyx , 3x faster for 2x cost. If you're not in a hurry do dinyx

[elder talon]

ok

[elder talon]

so after waiting for the order to be one, i can transfer it to a ship then sell it?

will the timer also go on if i log off?

[ivory gust]

Yes, you'll need a ship that has enough cargo space for the entire load, and you'll have to haul it to one of the major cities to sell.

If you don't have a suitable ship, you can rent a cutlass black at the refinery for that

[ivory gust]

It continues while logged out

[elder talon]

tysm

[sage summit]

It's good. Using the same and had no issues

[cerulean lichen]

Ok I can’t remember but does 3.18 have new cargo missions with the refactor? Thought I heard about some being made but don’t remember if they were for 3.18 or later on

[simple lintel]

Guys, I just got myself a Mole to try it for mining before wipe ....how do I activate the mining stations? feel pretty stupid about it

[sly ravine]

I see you're using the D2EA prospector build?

Impact with focus and brandt works, but it requires more skill than Lancet MH-1 with surge and stampede

[elder talon]

yeah i tried lancet mh 1 with focus II and stampede, so much easier

[ivory gust]

The only reason to use the impact/focus/brandt build is if you're mining on Lyria (and so need to be able to break large rocks) and can't get used to the way surge works. Lancet is much simpler for any other situation.

[ivory gust]

The power button is to the upper-left of the MFD that's on the top-right

Hold F and look for it

[simple lintel]

thank you, all the best

[plain silo]

What would you guys say is better for making money, mining or salvaging?

[ivory gust]

Mining, since you can't salvage on the live servers yet

[visual prism]

Is the mole fixed?

[plain silo]

How much money would you get for a full capacity of hadinite in a roc?

[ivory gust]

220k-ish

[sage summit]

Around 214k, if I'm not mistaken

0,8 SCU = 800 pieces of hadanite, 275 aUEC each

[plain silo]

K thanks

[north oyster]

And users will not be able to salvage unless they own the ships (save for hand salvage) because the ships will not be available for in-game purchase until the next patch

[plain silo]

K

[north oyster]

It would be nice if the vulture was also available as a rental like the Prospector

No idea if that will happen

[ivory gust]

"Last chance" to buy Hull-C at current price before it releases supposedly (really, just get a $10 CCU to lock in the price).

Mildly concerning that means it'll likely release into the current trading meta, where there's basically no useful routes for it

[ivory gust]

Reclaimer is available to purchase in game

[north oyster]

Very true, but not what I would call an entry level or solo ship. My wiring leans towards solo so I did not even think about that ship

[ivory gust]

ah, you said "ships" and there's only the two salvage ones

[regal wind]

Cave missions have a lot hadanite

[split ridge]

can you even have a meta in an alpha that regularly wipes?

[ivory gust]

Yes? The wipes aren't changing how cargo works or where it's sold

[misty coyote]

Yes... The meta just changes like British weather

[jovial matrix]

Of course

[elder talon]

wheres the best place to sell quantinium? is it in area18?

[ivory gust]

Any major city, they all pay the same

[sage summit]

Except Orison

[ivory gust]

No, Orison also pays exactly the same. 88 per unit

[sage summit]

afaik you can't sell quant at Orison - they do not buy it

[ivory gust]

They do

[plain silo]

What’s the key bind to open up the back door of the cutlas black when in the pilot seat, or is there one?

[faint lance]

idk the keybind but you can do it from the F + left click / right click "open all doors" and then it will be "close all doors"

[sage summit]

Have you sold yourself? Because I've tried around a week ago and wasted my time landing at Orison.

[velvet totem]

Does this mean CIG plans on fixing the "80% of rocks are unscannable" bug before 3.18 goes live??

[haughty bay]

Is there a ship that can carry my prospector? Thank you

[velvet totem]

None that are in the game atm, no.

[haughty bay]

ahhh ok thank you i look forward to when they do

[jovial matrix]

An 890 can’t do it?

[swift flint]

wtf is plasma fuel

and is it possible to sell?

[cerulean lichen]

What do you guys think will be more fun, salvage or mining? I love my prospector and quant mining but don’t know if salvage will be more fun or not. I won’t know since I don’t own a vulture and won’t get to try it at 3.18 launch

[clever wren]

Salvaging is a lot like power wash simulator

[ivory gust]

Where were you trying to sell? The TDD is between the hospital and the habs, not with the industrial stuff

[ivory gust]

No

[sage summit]

Yeah, I tried there, but they weren't interested in it 😦

[haughty bay]

See thats what i was wondering i know i can park fighters on the 890 so why not a prospector. I guees the gane just dosent allow it? Idk

[plain silo]

Which is better for general use and carrying the roc, the drake cutlass black or the constellation adronema ship?

[jovial matrix]

Cutty is faster and easier to land/handle, and it’s faster to unload the roc from

[jovial matrix]

Might be too long, idk never tried it

[jovial matrix]

However the Connie is a better ship overall, so if you’re using it for other things alongside roc mining, then I’d say connie wins

[plain silo]

Sorry I meant freelancer instead of constellation

[jovial matrix]

Ah

Cutty black 100%

[plain silo]

K then

Thanks

[vital juniper]

How much scu can the Hull A carry?

[regal wind]

Idk

[jovial matrix]

64 I believe

[haughty bay]

Found a video yes prospector and even an eclipse can fit in it!

[jovial matrix]

Cool

[haughty bay]

Alot of miss info on 890 out there

[bold fiber]

Hello citizens, Is there any miner that would borrow me Argo MOLE? I mine with prospector for some time and I would love to try MOLE to know if it's worth the money

[velvet totem]

You can use my MOLE

DM me

imo its not really worth using solo. You'll want at least 1 other crew member with you to make it worth the money to buy and use over the prospector.

With a friend though the MOLE is MUCH better than the prospector

[ivory gust]

counterpoint: the MOLE is only useful solo. with a friend you'd be better off with two prospectors

[velvet totem]

i don't know if that's 100% true. MOLE can crack bigger rocks than the prospector can and has much more cargo for ore than 2 prospectors iirc

But also MOLE is more expensive than 2 prospectors

[ivory gust]

MOLE's lasers aren't any more powerful than a prospector's. Two Prospectors can crack all the same rocks that a MOLE with two people can

The big advantage of two prospectors is that you can split up to cover more ground when scanning

[velvet totem]

MOLE has 3 size 2 mining heads

Prospector has size 1

[ivory gust]

Yes, and the only difference is in distance, not power

[velvet totem]

Not according to every guide and video ive ever watched ever on it

Size 2 pushes more power

[ivory gust]

Then you've watched a lot of really awful guides and videos, because they're wrong.

Seriously, go look at the stats yourself

[velvet totem]

Starcitizen.tools says it pushes more power too

[ivory gust]

It literally doesn't.

https://starcitizen.tools/Lancet_MH1
https://starcitizen.tools/Lancet_MH2

Both say "Power transfer: 1400"

[velvet totem]

I just read this

[ivory gust]

That's just advertising copy and not a technical description.

[jovial matrix]

None of that says anything about stats, it’s just CIG making it sound cool

[ivory gust]

On the flip side, the ROC-DS does have a more powerful laser than the ROC

It would make sense for the MOLE's lasers to be individually more powerful than the Prospector's, but it's not currently the case

[velvet totem]

thats good to know

ive been bamboozled by CIG's flavor text

Orion's giant asteroid munching claims better be real and powerful

[ivory gust]

don't forget the other upcoming RSI mining ship we don't know anything about yet

[velvet totem]

oooh? where was this teased/announced?

[ivory gust]

During the Best in Show stuff, there was a rigged poll

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/18930-Pick-A-Ship-Challenge

[velvet totem]

ty!!

[velvet totem]

Thank goodness RSI won. I'm not a fan of MISC aesthetics

[ivory gust]

It was rigged for RSI, the percentages started at that and never changed

[velvet totem]

Oh good haha

Orion is the sexiest looking ship in the game

and all of RSI's ships look good imo

[lusty granite]

when I go to the trading console and try to select a source it doesn't show any, I refined the ore I mined and put it in my stored cutty black

[jovial matrix]

Are you still at the refinery/station you refined at?

[lusty granite]

yes

[jovial matrix]

Gotta take your cutty to a city and sell at the TDD

Trade and development division

[lusty granite]

oh ok

what are the trading consoles for then?

[jovial matrix]

They still buy commodities, idk why the don’t buy ore

Refined ore anyway

[lusty granite]

ah ok

it says that none of it is 'acceptable'

[jovial matrix]

Are you at the cities admin office or the TDD?

[lusty granite]

admin office, I didn't realize there was a difference

[jovial matrix]

Yup gotta go to the tdd

[lusty granite]

ah ok thanks

[ivory gust]

I don't know what you did wrong, but Orison definitely buys refined quantanium. I went and mined some and refined it just to get this screenshot for you.

[jovial matrix]

They might’ve gone to the admin office

[ivory gust]

Yes, if you follow the replies I asked that but they claimed they were at the TDD

[jovial matrix]

Ah

[lusty granite]

!map_newbabbage

[wary tusk]

New Babbage City Map

Graphic by Citko

[wispy mauve]

!map_orison

[wary tusk]

Orison City Map

Graphic by Citko

[devout light]

so I have relogged 3 times now and every time when I use mining mode on a prospector it works the first time I pull out the beam but when I put it away then bring it back out again it doesnt scan or bring up the mining beam percentage or optimal area thing on the opposite side

[nocturne lava]

Hello, I was wondering if anyone could answer some of my cargo questions. I only just now figured out that you can buy products at one location, transport them somewhere else and sell them for a profit.
I was given a link to the trade tools website, and I see how it works, but I also don't know what products are considered legal and which are illegal to transport and sell. Can anyone help? i'm looking to fully load my Hercules A2 cargo bay with some type of commodity and do several cargo runs back and forth to make some money.

The most profitable one the site told me was something called HAZE, which I read is a drug. I didn't know if it was safe to transport it. I don't want to get a crime stat and not be able to land.

[kindred gust]

You are right, Haze is a drug.

I’m not very experienced with trading but I know that it is not that easy to do it back and forth. There are cooldown times between sells so u can’t sell all the time. That’s what I heard. And if u don’t want a Crime Stat, u should better trade something serious. Like medical supply’s for example

[hallow bronze]

Hello Guys im in the trade console (ore sales) of MIC L1 and my Prospector does't appear anyone can healp me?

Its storage

[misty coyote]

Ore Sales can be a bit buggy

Check the refinery

[hallow bronze]

in the refinery the ship appears but in ore sales no

what can I do?