industrial-professions

[ivory frigate]

Unfortunately not

[mighty prawn]

Can you post a screenshot of what you are seeing?

[misty coyote]

Have you changed servers at all?

[ivory frigate]

yeah, lost it yesterday after a game crash or 30000 or reasons

I'm guessing I'm SOL?

[mighty prawn]

Looks like it 😐

[misty coyote]

Yeah..... Unfortunate.....

Once you leave the servers, it's all over....

Plus side..... After 3.18 these lost ROCS will remain for scavenging

[vital pawn]

Did you try claiming it? Doesn't that bring it to the storage of whatever location you're at?

[ivory frigate]

yeah but was trying to recover its storage

[worldly frigate]

so is cargo with a C2 hurcules really profitable?

[topaz coyote]

You will make money but it's not close to the money you can make with quant mining. I can make 100k+ profit per full herc running titanium. Forget about Laranite as it takes far to long to fill a herc.

[worldly frigate]

Teach me :0

I wanna build a fleet eventually! So I wanna be able to buy some ships I’d want for it 🙂

[latent mulch]

Are passive mining modules still lost when your ship blows up/gets claimed in 3.17.2?

[ivory gust]

Yes

[vestal ravine]

For "scavenging a ROC - would Gems survive a crash?"

[misty coyote]

A server crash.... Not sure
.. A client crash yes

[vestal ravine]

Hello. I can tell you about some routes as I use a C2 and yes it is profitable in it's own way. It's relaxing and stressful since you have your own credits on the line and to many failed missions you can go broke. That's a bummer.

[latent mulch]

I just intentionally crashed my ship to test it. My Lancet was not destroyed, only my Surge, Stampede and FLTR-XL

[ivory gust]

Yes. The mining laser was fine, but the modules were all lost.

[thorn bronze]

Is it feasible to try and do cargo with the cutter or should I look into something else for next wipe?

[jovial matrix]

Look into something else, the cutter doesn’t have anywhere near enough cargo space to do commodity trading

I’d reccomend bunkers or delivery missions instead

[hasty tendon]

Have you thought about upgrading to the Nomad to carry ROC and mining hadanite until you can buy in game upgrade?

[thorn bronze]

Never heard of it standby while I look at it

Would you recommend the Nomad over the cutlass black?

[ivory gust]

Nomad and Cutlass each have their advantages for ROC mining. Neither has enough space to do cargo effectively.

[thorn bronze]

yikes ok

[ivory gust]

In order to make decent money with trading you need a much bigger ship

[thorn bronze]

Like?

[ivory gust]

Constellation Taurus at the bare minimum to make it worth your while. In order for trading to be competitive with other sources of income you need a C2 or Caterpillar

[vapid pagoda]

I need help with quantum mining

i dont know how to mine it

i got the right ship for it

[grizzled ice]

what is the least expensive upgrade from fps mining that isnt land vehicle that requires another ship to carry

[little stratus]

there're only 2 ships that will mine, Prospector and MOLE, neither are cheap

[grizzled ice]

damn so whats the best way to get to that point starting from fps mining

[little stratus]

ROC mining

if we're talking about mining

Prospector is ~2M aUEC or $150, MOLE is ~5.1M aUEC or $315

[grizzled ice]

jeez

so would it be cheaper to have a ship that can hold a rover or something that can mind on board

[little stratus]

Nomad is the smallest that will hold a ROC

and it's a hair under 1M aUEC

[grizzled ice]

hmm

so what about renting

would i make more money than i would to spend it

[little stratus]

can't rent a nomad

[grizzled ice]

what about the prospector

[little stratus]

can't rent that either iirc

ah wait you can

50k per day

https://starcitizen.tools/Prospector

[grizzled ice]

so with good methods would i make more than 50k per day

and also is day in game day or irl

[little stratus]

IRL day

24 hours

or you can choose to rent it longer for bulk discounts

[grizzled ice]

okay very good so i could defo make more than 50k

[little stratus]

130k for 3 days, 250k for a week, 850k for a month

[grizzled ice]

so what happens if a rented ship explodes

[little stratus]

nothing

same as if an owned ship explodes

just claim it

[grizzled ice]

okay perfect thats really good

[little stratus]

you can't upgrade or change anything on the rented ship

[grizzled ice]

makes sense

[little stratus]

which for mining ships may be a fuckin big problem considering your mining head can't be changed

i don't know enough bout ship mining to say whether ^ may be a problem or not

[grizzled ice]

well do you know of a okay method with the prospector

[sage summit]

Rent Cutlass Black + ROC. Earn some money. Buy Prospector.

[grizzled ice]

but the rent price is only just a bit lower than renting the prospector itself so wouldnt it be better to rent the prospector

[sage summit]

Good luck mining quant with stock Prospector. Spoiler alert: it's close to impossible.

[ivory gust]

No, because rented Prospector can't mine anything good. You'll make more money, more easily, with a rented roc than a rented Prospector

[grizzled ice]

i mean like mining the same stuff as the roc

wouldnt it be more effiecient at it because you dont gotta land get out etc

[sage summit]

Well, I've never tried mining hadanite with Prospector. Don't know if it's even possible.

[grizzled ice]

well if i go with the roc which one should i go for

along with the cutlass

[jovial matrix]

A prospector can’t efficiently mine ROC rocks

They’ll explode almost instantly, sending whatever gems came out all over the place, and you’ll have to go collect them all by hand

[grizzled ice]

okay yeah i might wanna go with roc lmao

[sage summit]

ROC

It's the only ROC available for rent

[jovial matrix]

and the ROC-DS is made for two people

[grizzled ice]

how do i put the roc in the cutlass

like what i mean is have 2 spawned

[jovial matrix]

take your cutlass and fly to a mining outpost

there'll be a little blue, go in there and use the terminals to spawn your ROC

get in your ROC and drive it into the back of your cutlass

[grizzled ice]

so after its in

does it spawn with the roc in it

at other stations when you retrieve it

[jovial matrix]

If you store the ship and retrieve it at the same station, then yes it should

if youre ship gets blown up or you have to claim it with the ROC inside, then no, you have to go load a new one

[grizzled ice]

alr got it

can i only spawn the roc and the cutlass at the same place on mining outposts

or can i do it at space stations since im at one rn

[jovial matrix]

you have to call the ROC at an outpost

and you cant call the cutty at an outpost, gotta fly it to one

[grizzled ice]

gotcha

just saved me alotta trouble lmao

[grizzled ice]

idk why but i cant move the roc out of the cutlass

engines are on and everything i just cant move

[scarlet smelt]

Star citizen teacher, If anyone is looking for help or start in the verse just ask for help I am an experienced star citizen player willing to help to who ever needs. DM if you need help, good day citizens👋

[blazing marsh]

hey guys can someone teach me how to mine? much appreciated

[maiden steppe]

Any idea what the cheapest rental ship that can fit two ROCs is? Or which ship can fit two and I'll figure out the rental cost.

[pliant matrix]

Andromeda. It's 90k/day iirc

[maiden steppe]

Thanks!

[lean barn]

At uexcorp website, looking at routes, what does the Avg traded (SCU) indicate? First time doing cargo and trying find easiest and best route to start

[vital pawn]

Standard Cargo Unit, I think? Like the number of cargo crates that'll go in your ship, so average amount of cargo hauled per trip? Still kinda new too but I've managed a few trade runs

[ivory gust]

Cutlass fits two

And fits them cleaner than an Andromeda lol

[kindred gust]

Corsair fits two, too?

[ivory gust]

Yes but isn't available for rent

[maiden steppe]

Well already got the Andromeda. That's alright it's neat.

First time flying anything bigger than my avenger titan. It's fun.

[median prairie]

Does it make any sense to hand mine asteroids, without a ship mining scanner?

wait, the cutter DOES have a mining scanner?

[misty coyote]

All ships have scanners. I've not seen many roids with gems. Easier to roam on the planet

[median prairie]

but it seems it can only detect the big ore rocks it seems

[misty coyote]

Just need to get closer... But gem formations on roids is rare.

[median prairie]

but are the small gem formations which can be hand mined also on the surface of moons or planets, or only in caves?

[misty coyote]

They are mostly in caves... But you can find hand mineables on moons and planets

Hand mining should be as a side plate to a cave mission though

[median prairie]

but if there are hand minable gems on asteroids, they would be on the ore rocks, right?

[misty coyote]

Yes

[ivory gust]

Yes

Also totally not worth the time. Hand mining in general is not worth the time, and trying to specifically find them on asteroids even more so.

The only way it's even remotely close to worth it is if you're already in a cave for another reason. Or if you're in prison.

[median prairie]

I'm trying to prepare for the wipe

[ivory gust]

You'd be better off doing a couple of delivery missions to get up to 40k credits to be able to rent a ROC and cutlass imo

Or do one cave combat mission and loot all the bad guys' gems

[median prairie]

I see, thanks

[ivory gust]

The gems dropped by enemies in caves are worth 10x the gems you mine yourself

[median prairie]

oh ok

which is a good mission for that?

[ivory gust]

Look for "evict occupants" or similar missions in bounty category

[median prairie]

thanks

[ivory gust]

Also ?RT missions that call out a cave location

[median prairie]

what's ?RT

[ivory gust]

It's a mission type that shows up in the bounty category

Ship bounty missions show as "LRT" (low risk target) "HRT" (high risk target) or whatever. FPS bounty missions show as "?RT"

[median prairie]

Aight thanks

[viral heath]

hmm surge stampede in the halo or passives modules?

[lavish flax]

Is there a way to dump inert materials or do I have to sell them

[vestal ravine]

When you refine leave those unselected.

[lavish flax]

Does that destroy them?

[jovial matrix]

Yeah refining gets rid of inert materials

[lavish flax]

The inert materials were greyed out so maybe it does that automatically

Whats the best moon/planet for prospector mining? (Dont really wanna do qt mining yet)

Unless that is qt mining

I got no clue honestly what qt mining is

[jovial matrix]

Qt mining is mining quantanium, which is the most valuable ore

[lavish flax]

Does it spawn on planets/moons?

Also which planet/moon has the best ore yield?

[jovial matrix]

Yeah

Lyria is best for quant mining, dunno about the other ores

[lavish flax]

Ill check it out once my materials finish processing, got a shit ton of aluminum from aberdeen

And I just have to go up to one of the rocks with mining mode on for it to scan and itll tell me the contents?

[jovial matrix]

Yeah

On Lyria, you’re looking for groups of two or more rocks

Any group of rocks will be quant rocks on Lyria

[vestal ravine]

Hi, can you let me know your profit? Thanks!

[viral heath]

besides quant there isnt any thing more profitable on a ship mining basis

Until we get the supposed manufacturing loop

[lavish flax]

300 auc 💀

I didnt mine much so thats expected

Well thats the price it said, I havent sold it yet though, Ill lyk when I mine some more

[vestal ravine]

Ok thanks! I got to try some mining.

[viral heath]

@lavish flax you prospect mine aluminum?

[plush maple]

Here are the ore values for reference

[glacial dagger]

When refined

Raw is half that

[plush maple]

^

[bronze delta]

anyone minig going to be at Arc-L1-A?]

[vestal ravine]

Magda is cool with all the green crystals...try that place. I think it's Taranite.

[lavish flax]

Yeah I did it to try it out since I got a lot of auec from the last wipe, but didnt get to actually mining till today since I also took a hiatus

[lavish flax]

Ty!

[maiden steppe]

it worked. figured out that we needed to parallel park them but successfully did noob roc mining with my even more noob friend.

[viral heath]

@maiden steppe best solo ship for roc would be the nomad.. no nose dive issues like the cutty and smol footprint compared to the max lancer

maxlancer can fit 2 rocs i think

[maiden steppe]

I was looking for a rental that could fit two ROCs. It was also our first time in anything bigger than an avenger or cutter. It was fun even if it wasn't the most efficient option.

I'll keep those in mind for 3.18 though

[jovial matrix]

sorry what? The cutty flies fine in atmo, its the nomad that has nose diving issues

[marble crater]

yeah Cutty nose dive got fixed but they didn't do the same for the Nomad. melted mine

[viral heath]

i didnt have the nose dive with nomad going cruise control at 300 spd

[ivory gust]

It's above 300 that it starts to happen (depending on atmosphere)

[viral heath]

thought 300 is the sweet spot for pinging

[ivory gust]

Also much less noticeable if you use mouse since it's very easy to compensate for, if you use a stick it's much more obvious

[viral heath]

ah ok

[mild ibex]

what modules should i use my impact 1 mining head

mines now working

My charge level won’t go up at all even when the laser intensity is max

[viral heath]

whats a good passive module loadout for the halo?

[mild ibex]

How do u activate your non passive module

Like how do I activate Brandt module

[grizzled ice]

why does the extraction tool on roc barely work

im sitting on this gem for ages and nothings budging

[viral heath]

You don't it's there already activated

Hence passive modulea

[mild ibex]

No no the non passive one

[viral heath]

Alt 123 for slots 123

[mild ibex]

Oh ok

[ivory gust]

Trade it for a Lancet mining head, for one. Then use surge and stampede modules

[mild ibex]

For quantaium??

[ivory gust]

Yes. Lancet is by far the best mining head to use for quantanium due to the instability reduction

[mild ibex]

How many of each module

[mild ibex]

Or just two mods

[viral heath]

Surge and stampede will be sufficient

[ivory gust]

Two surges, one stampede

[viral heath]

quick question for using surge/stampede on lyria.. does the 8k rock break into 4k pieces or they go smol

just found a video and the 8k breaks into 1k pieces

k

[grizzled ice]

what is the cheapest (not best) ship that can hold a roc

[misty coyote]

Nomad

Unless you rent a Cutlass Black

Nomad is 900k ish, Cutty rental is 27k ish

[grizzled ice]

hey so im super confused with renting

for some reason it says 3 day rental on cutlass is 640k

i dont think thats right correct

and when i try rent the roc

the 3 day is 80k somehow

but the month one is 11k

[viral heath]

juat grind bunkers for a nomad

or you can fit the roc on the cutter, you just cannot qt

[grizzled ice]

this is a serious bug tho

the panel says 90k for 3 day rent

but it charged me 650k

[viral heath]

rip

[grizzled ice]

and 3 day rent for the roc

charged me 80k

[viral heath]

roc is 120k to buy iirc

180

[grizzled ice]

bro wtf is this bug

ok so

[viral heath]

you in ptu or pu?

[grizzled ice]

no

look at this

3 day rent for prospector

1 mill

30 day

135 k

[viral heath]

highlight it on spectrum

[grizzled ice]

how does that make any sense

[viral heath]

we can do nothing here

make a bug report on spectrum would be the best course of action

[grizzled ice]

yeah

i can rent the drake for 30 days for only 100k

cutlass*

i relogged and this persists

okay i figured it out

its a ui bug

it still charged me too much but also too little

30 days was 3 days

3 was 30 etc

[sage summit]

There is a bug with rental for more than a day

So always rent for one day

[rotund rover]

I just started playing again after a while and want to do some mining with the prospector and I have some modules but I don't know how to install them I was wondering if anyone could help me with that.

[viral heath]

store your ship using the asop... then hit f1 and then loadout manager

utlity tab and install your modules there

make sure your modules are in the same location as your prospy

[rotund rover]

they don't show up in loadout manager

[viral heath]

are your modules in the same location as your ship?

[rotund rover]

That was the problem

thanks

[drowsy turtle]

How do i stop NPCs from killing me the instant I turn up at Yela?

And how do i turn down the F* * * * * beep that my shields are down on my prospector and hwo do I get them back up

This game has me really frustrated, I have staretd it 6x this week and I couldn't mine a single piece of rock because of glitches, NPC's killing me or rocks blowing up

[vestal ravine]

I have a few suggestions. If by "Yela" you mean asteroid mining for Quant there are charts out that direct you deep into the Aaron Halo for Quant rocks. I would avoid the Yela/Grim Hex area for trading and mining as the NPC's may be in the area more often. Shields: I generally ignore these internal ship messages but you could try to claim the ship and see if it gets repaired. Asteroid glitches: review the websites that go over this material. Rocks blowing up: I had the same problem and have avoided Quant mining ever since. You will either get the hang of it or go on to another profession.

[misty coyote]

There is a way of tickling rocks... I use a slider on my sticks which is really sensitive.. Also use a Lancet mining head, and nothing more. Then, if you kasplode, you're not losing out...

Also, take a probe mission. You should be able to QT back to your previous place where the probe is location.... I think....

[glacial dagger]

Negative

That is, if your talking about the deploy a probe mission for research

[hushed elm]

Is mining other materials other then quant worth it

[glacial dagger]

Not really unless your just tryign to earn enough to be able to buy a prospector, better mining head and mining modules

[misty coyote]

Oh.... Delivery mission? Or do you just get the way points?

[glacial dagger]

Huh? Sorry, no, I meant there isn't a way of leaving a quantum jump marker out in the halo without using another friend as the marker

[misty coyote]

And why not may I ask?!

...... Oh.... SC...... That's why....

[drowsy turtle]

Surface mining

[drowsy turtle]

The shields thingy is a constant loud beep that doesnt stop, or was that a sound glitch?

[drowsy turtle]

Yeah I have double joystick but can't figure out how to use them for mining, so i use my mouse still, but the slider is super jumpy

[glacial dagger]

What sticks do you have?

[drowsy turtle]

Dual T16k

[glacial dagger]

Well, I like using the little slider at the bottom of the stick for my mining power

[misty coyote]

Ah bums....

You could use the y axis, and switch your ship off... Or hold the space brake...

[drowsy turtle]

yeah i tried it but it wasn't mapped then i guess

[glacial dagger]

Yh, your gonna have to map it

[drowsy turtle]

I posted a reddit question in the hopes someone has t19ks and also likes mining

I've never used joysticks before

[glacial dagger]

I mean, I could help run you though it in a VC if you want?

[drowsy turtle]

Started using them yesterday and want a solid mapping to get used instead of band-aiding my incompetence

I'd love to, but not now, too mad at the game for constantly sending NPCs after me when trying to mine

[glacial dagger]

I mean, the NPCs shouldn't be there in the Aaron Halo

[drowsy turtle]

I only surface mine

at the moon near ArcCorp

[glacial dagger]

If your trying to still mine around Yela, then yh, your gonna have a hard time

Wala?

[drowsy turtle]

inner moon

idk the name

Lyria

[glacial dagger]

Well

Is it a rental prospector?

[drowsy turtle]

no

but constantly waiting 10min when spwning in isn't nice either

[glacial dagger]

What have you upgraded it with?

[drowsy turtle]

nothing

Again, new

no aUEC

[glacial dagger]

Ok, your gonna be having some issues with trying to crack a surface quant rock then

Hop in the VC, I'm gonna show you an easier way to mine

[drowsy turtle]

idm the material

I just want to learn how to mine

without dying

[glacial dagger]

Join my VC. It's the one at the bottom

[drowsy turtle]

it has a lock

[drowsy turtle]

I can't join

[glacial dagger]

Aight, lemme invite real quick

[lime nova]

does anyone have that chart on how to navigate to the aaron halo

[glacial dagger]

Try joining now

[glacial dagger]

From which station?

[lime nova]

CRU-L1 preferably

[glacial dagger]

Aight, gimme a sec

[glacial dagger]

Old map because Delamar is still on there, but the distances still work well

[lime nova]

thanks man

mind if i pin it?

[glacial dagger]

Go for it

I have all of them if you want

[sage summit]

Here one can find all the route charts through Aaron halo
https://cstone.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes

[grizzled flame]

Question - what would be a good loadout for my Freelancer Max as far as weapons/equipment go?

[pastel flame]

I'd suggest picking up an XL-1 Quantum Drive, and a Cyclone as a nice cheap effective ground vehicle you can throw in it.

If you want to go big get FR series shields and JS powerplant, the gimbal'd laser repeaters are solid

[glad knot]

Honestly for the max the ursela (sp?) Was really cool. More cargo, guns, seats and going slower meant it handled some planets/moons a lot better.

[pastel flame]

Yeah it depends on what you want out of it, I just used mine for a bunker hopper. It's versatile!

I could see a couple hoverbikes being nice if you were just going place to place looting

[mighty prawn]

Cyclone or any ground vehicle did not work for me in Hurston with its rocks, is it working for you? Where do you do bunker missions?

I mean, I can use it, but it's too long that I might as well walk

[pastel flame]

I'm almost strictly Crusader - I will do the other planets a bit each patch just to be sure, but it's vastly superior for someone mainly into bounty hunting of any sort.

[glad knot]

The standard cyclone was cool for cleaning out bunkers as well as the uresula. After the wipe I will probably buy whichever combo is cheaper either the Max and Uresula or the cutty black and cyclone.

[pastel flame]

I like doing trade and other things at other planets, but for bunkers it's a clear answer

[mighty prawn]

So, doing bunker in CRU moons works out for you then? I might try CRU just to see how its different for ground vehicle

[pastel flame]

Yes. You don't have any big planetary atmosphere to navigate, and every bounty you go to will have a direct QD marker. The moons are all low grav and mostly easy to navigate.

[mighty prawn]

Is there a way to reduce the max speed of the cars? just so it does not accelerate to max every time?

[glad knot]

On MT either vehicle worked except one of the dark rocky moons that the cyclone could not handle well (kinda like yer talking about). The Ursula however had way bigger wheels and was slower/easier to roll over and around stuff. Give it a try.

[mighty prawn]

ok, thanks, can Ursa fit inside the regular freelancer, not referring to max?

[glad knot]

Needs the max

[mighty prawn]

Damn

I cannot rent max

This is just to try out

Maybe I will rent 600i

[glad knot]

It's a big boy. I think about 2 million though. I have made about 15 million in 2 weeks from selling to players my bunker bounty and donations.

You wanna borrow mine and the Ursula, send me a PM tonight and go run bunkers for a few hours.

[mighty prawn]

Ok, thanks, I might take you up on the offer 😄

[glad knot]

Just remember the thing handles like a boat.

[marble crater]

If you do the Assist/Defend/Protect bunker missions you can just park at the front door in any ol ship

[mighty prawn]

After riding Cyclone, I would be happy with slow and steady. Does Ursa have tendency to spin or roll over?

[glad knot]

Does anyone know what else the Ursula fits in? Maybe there is something cheaper.

[mighty prawn]

I think Ursa is like 3rd or 4th biggest ground car, I think the number of ships is limited: 600i, Herc, FL max, MSR, etc..

[mighty prawn]

Yeah, thanks, we just need to be very careful not to hit friendies there. They do not have that triangle marker all the time. In fact, it never popped up for me when I do them.

I go to MT to do there, as they wear only white that I know of

[civic fog]

the best solution i found was to assign a "brake" button to my joystick and use it as needed to keep the speed under control

[glad knot]

Mt they wear white and it's easy. Cru and hurston gets me CS every time

[mighty prawn]

Yeah, that's what I heard too. That's why I go to MT for these defend sites.

[mighty prawn]

That sounds like a good idea. I might try that, thanks.

[mighty prawn]

Also, I heard that ArcCorp is the worst, both hostile and friendly wear very similar colour codes

[vestal ravine]

The ROC DS has a very high clearance and these big soft tires. But it can't carry boxes. I generally dont loot its to much of a pain for parking a ship and scoring the crate.

[lavish flax]

They should have markers to indicate friendlies now, at least when I take quests like defend occupants, they have a blue marker above their head

[mighty prawn]

It never appeared for me, costing me some CS

I wonder if I somehow managed to disable it through setting without realizing it

[ivory gust]

Make sure you have the bunker mission tracked, instead of Call to Arms or whatever

[mighty prawn]

Ok, thanks, I will double check tonight when I do some mission

[stray wolf]

Can you sell Salvage boxes on GrimHex?

[cunning vapor]

If I store my vehicle full of loot.does it go to my local?

[viral heath]

no

it just stays in your ship

[glad knot]

Do not trust the markers, go by the uniforms. Almost none of the missions have markers above all the defenders heads. Always a couple of them are without the triangles. Go by uniform and don't shoot unless your sure its a 9tails. Those markers will get you in trouble eventually if you just go by them.

[mighty prawn]

ok, thanks for letting me know. I will try to be more careful. Coincidently, I just saw marker for the first time doing these defend site mission at MT.

[grizzled flame]

Wow - thanks for all the info ... I'm still hanging out mostly at MT and I basically use it to do cargo runs. I don't see any bunker missions in the microTech area usually. Still a noob (10 days in). Learning how to grind in this game. Also got the prospector. Using the system to practice everything (mining, refining, etc ...)

This is what I have so far: Prospector, ROC, Mule, Mustang Alpha, Freelancer Max, Pisces C8 Expedition, Pisces C8R and Avenger Titan. I also got that Origin X85 which I kind of regret buying.

I started kitting out my Prospector with modules (did a few mistakes there). Don't want to do the same mistake with upgrading my MAX

Have never done bunker missions so would be nice at some point to participate in one.

[topaz plover]

feel free add me in spectrum Malic187 or dm me and we can set up a time when i can run you threw most game loops cept dog fighting.. i suck at combat piloting but have years exp in game. be happy to help yeah get orientated some time and show u efficient ways to farm bunkers for loot or stock up on gear for resale

[grizzled flame]

@topaz plover Thanks!

[dreamy bridge]

hello, I was thinking to upgrade my Freelancer Max to Corsair. Here is why I'm using Freelancer Max;

• Refined ore transfer,
• If I ever have the willing, I carry ROC for mining.

Any other way around, it is just sitting in ARC L1.

Corsair: The Good

• Better interior
• Better fighter
• Can carry refined ores to fulfill Freelancer Max's main duty.
• Can carry vehicles like Freelancer Max can.
• It is also an exploration ship. I don't do cargo runs with Freelancer Max.
• It has more HP so comes important while carrying stuff especially with the pirate's wet dream of 3.18!
• Twice QT Fuel capacity

Corsair: Bad Stuff

• Handles worse than Freelancer Max
• 225K less hydrogen fuel capacity
• 48 SCU less cargo
• Slightly slower (4 m/s & 55 m/s Afterburner)

I guess it is no brainer to go Corsair so I'm just looking for a final push to make final decision.

[plush maple]

Do it.

[dreamy bridge]

thanks!

[plush maple]

I understood the assignment 👍

[pine moon]

I have a question about the cargo refactor. In the future, if we will need to actually load cargo onto our ships, what can we do about some rando just walking up the ramp and jacking the ship in an armistice zone. We can't just shoot 'em. So... FC wat do?

[mighty prawn]

Turning off engine should prevent randos from actually turning the ship on and fly off, right?

[jovial matrix]

nope

[mighty prawn]

They might be able to sit on pilot seat though 😐

[jovial matrix]

if they can get in the pilot seat they can turn the engines on

[mighty prawn]

oh, that's different

[dreamy bridge]

yeah that's messed up

[pine moon]

I owned and flew a Corsair for exactly the 24 hours it took before I could exchange it. The thing flies like a drunk pig and needs far too much crew to properly defend itself. I immediately sold it for a Mercury. That, at least, I didn't hate, but was indifferent to, so I sold that off and used the credit for a C2.

[dreamy bridge]

C2 is in my buy list for the future! Maybe in a month or so

[pine moon]

It's my favorite ship by far.

[dreamy bridge]

I use it in the game, 100% best cargo ship ATM

[pine moon]

Going from a C2 to a Corsair is actually painful. C2 flies better.

[dreamy bridge]

we'll see how much time it would take to load / unload in the future though

[mighty prawn]

Have you flown Freelancer MAX too? Do they fly both about the same? I was surprised to hear this

[pine moon]

I haven't flown a MAX, but I have flown a Freelancer DUR, and it's head and shoulders better to fly than the Corsair was.

[dreamy bridge]

Free fly event I used Corsair once. It handles worse than Freelancer Max (I own it)

[pine moon]

You can't put a ROC in it, but the Hull A is my favorite medium cargo ship.

[dreamy bridge]

It is in my buy back (Hull B)

I dont do concept so I melted it 🙂

[pine moon]

The 315p is my favorite small cargo/drug runner.

[dreamy bridge]

But I might broke that rule as Hull A in game

[pine moon]

Hull A is surprisingly pleasant to fly.

[dreamy bridge]

except atmo, it is slow as they come

It drove me nuts

[pine moon]

Eh, could be worse. I don't fly cargo haulers to be fast. 🙂

[dreamy bridge]

but interior.... perfect!

I wonder how it would be with 3.18 if someone starts shooting at you

[pine moon]

315 has a surprising amount of cargo for a ship that small.

[dreamy bridge]

you will just drop boxes?

[civic fog]

Just wanted you to consider that a ship may also be more than the technical specs it has. talking about that special connection between the pilot and the ship which cant be expressed as a number. Lucky13 story comes to mind (netflix, love death and robots). I have that connection with my Valkyrie and hope you find it one day as well my friend.

[dreamy bridge]

yeah that's why I'm having 2nd thoughts on upgrading to Corsair

[pine moon]

But yeah, does anyone see a solution for the shipjacking issue, or do we just need to wait and see if it becomes an issue?

[dreamy bridge]

I guess door locking will be some kind of solution

(Deleted my previous posts, I now know where the extra package comes from)

[mighty prawn]

Good. Besides being able to use Ursa, I am not fond of Corsair.

It also has bad visibility

[mighty prawn]

So, if a door is locked, only owner or party member can unlock it?

oh, you are talking about a possible future state

[dreamy bridge]

I assume so

yes 🙂

[scarlet rover]

Funny part is I feel that more from my RAFT, and could never get a C2 because it feels soulless to me

[mighty prawn]

I wonder if we lock the pilot's door now, will it prevent non-party member from opening it

[dreamy bridge]

Rigel, we could give it a go

[mighty prawn]

Where are you in game?

[dreamy bridge]

I am not right now

I can be in 15- 20

[mighty prawn]

ok, where would you be located in game when you login?

I am at everus

[dreamy bridge]

We are talking about PTU?

[mighty prawn]

Oh, I am not on PTU

[dreamy bridge]

in PU?

MIC 🙂

HUR is too depressive for me

[mighty prawn]

Do you have a ship that specifically says lock for the pilot door?

[dreamy bridge]

C2 I guess has or MSR

I have quite a few ships in PU

[civic fog]

I understand you perfectly. For a long time, I had that connection with my RAFT. It was the only ship I was operating. Still love that orange brick. However, lack of a cargo bay made life very difficult for me, especially during xenothreat incidents. Then I met Valkyrie by chance and I think these two ships share DNA somehow because it became my RAFT with a cargo bay, opening up many possibilities (roc mining, cyclone transport, etc). Hope to bump into you in the verse fellow RAFTer !

[misty coyote]

Is there a cargo grid on the Valk now?

[civic fog]

Yep. 28 SCU

[misty coyote]

Ah...So not an exact Raft translation, but more a brother from another mother?

[civic fog]

🙂 just like that. Valk compensates lack of cargo capacity in other areas

[pine moon]

I wouldn't say no to a RAFT, but I only started a few weeks ago and the RAFT wasn't available for pledge.

Also. I really want an 890 Jump.

[misty coyote]

I don't think the RAFT should be capable of holding anything....At least, dropping the cargo crates, and unloading the vehicle should be a pain....

If you wanted to

[pine moon]

As I understand it, the RAFT will be really good for loading up the Hull C through E, as it'll accept teh cargo crates.

I have absolutely no clue what in game purpose the Hull E will serve.

In what universe would a player ever need to move that much cargo?

[misty coyote]

Same as the Argo Cargo I guess...It's a SQ42 addition..

Maybe NPC transport for BIG piracy

[pine moon]

Cargo Capacity for the Hull E is currently estimated at 98,304.

So a bit over 141 C2s worth of cargo.

[misty coyote]

It's the loot pinyata after you get through the reams of escort ships

[pine moon]

Just sorting through the crap could take days.

[misty coyote]

Yep...

Even with 32 scu crates

[pine moon]

If you sort through 1 SCU per second, that's 27 hours of looting.

[misty coyote]

Then again, you wouldn't tackle this solo

Scanning filter...

This is what you'll need

[dreamy bridge]

@mighty prawn I'm here, I can join if you are up to

[mighty prawn]

Yeah, sent you a DM

[plush maple]

It's probably for way down the line- maybe a developing planet or station will have a contract for construction supplies and players will get a big payout if they deliver

[pine moon]

That's possible, I suppose.

[plush maple]

But pirates may also be aware of the contract so it'd be very high risk

[pine moon]

Or if player-owned stations become a thing and you need to bring the construction mats.

I know that player-owned structures are on the roadmap, so it could be that.

[plush maple]

Whatever the case may be, I'm sure it'll be niche gameplay requiring the support of other players

[pine moon]

Oh, at that point, most definitely.

I'm honestly kind of just waiting for them to release a ship where you legit can't take off properly without at least one other person.

[plush maple]

Could be intended to travel system to system where other players load up crates to rafts and such to sell off to various planets like an interstellar convoy

[pine moon]

Also possible, yeah.

Flying smaller ships back and forth to Pyro seems inefficient when you can just grab a small moon's worth of cargo containers in one go.

[plush maple]

Yeah could prove useful of a resource is only available on one planet or something

[pine moon]

Even if there's something only available in one system and needs to be shipped to others.

[plush maple]

At this point I just want the hull b released- the hull A isn't very practical

[pine moon]

Hull A is great for moving refinery jobs around, but I do prefer my C2 for most other things.

ROI isn't great, but filling a C2 with titanium is always good money.

[plush maple]

Yeah I used a cat last patch but I'm switching to c2 for 3.18

[pine moon]

How are the Caterpillars?

I haven't actually seen one in game yet.

I will warn you that the C2 is not for the novice pilot. Landing in most hangars is fairly precise.

[plush maple]

I love them- won't hold as much as a c2 but I think they are more aesthetically pleasing

[plush maple]

I'm up to the challenge

[pine moon]

Only time I've ever had a crime stat was early in flying a C2.

I bounced the rear "wing" things off the top of a hangar, slammed down into the defense turrets, and they counted that as an attack.

The bastards then blew up my C2.

I comforted myself by imagining the gunner explaining to his buddies why he blew up a C2 filled with distilled spirits.

[plush maple]

Ouch that's rough

Yeah I'd say give the cat a try if you want- it has more of a space trucker feel to it

[pine moon]

I really like the C2. Feels like a wide body jumbo.

It's just that most hangars have about 2 meters clearance all the way around.

Both vertical and horizontal entry hangars.

[scarlet rover]

I would disagree, I'd argue it handles way more smoothly than others its size compared to the Cat or Carrack

[pine moon]

Oh, in open space/air the C2 handles wonderfully.

[scarlet rover]

Just make sure to fold the wings for hangars

[pine moon]

It was literally painful trying to get used to a Corsair after having spent a fair amount of time in a C2.

Even with the wings folded for VTOL mode it's still a bit tighter than one might expect. It's definitely manageable for a skilled pilot, but takes some getting used to and I felt the warning was appropriate. 🙂

[mild ibex]

Hey what’s the best mining loadout for the prospector

[prime pine]

Lancet head
mods: Surge, Stampede, Optimum

[sage summit]

I use Impact I, two Focus III and Brandt. Had no issues.

[maiden steppe]

FYI If you 30k in a loaded roc you might log in back in your roc but with none of your hadanite or the ship you were using to move it. And even though it looks like you can make it back to the mining outpost planets are actually really big and the roc doesn't have a compass. You'll chase the sun west trying to make it as far as you can but you'll eventually run out of light (and lose your compass). Then you'll drive at night for 20 minutes thinking you're making progress until eventually you lose your stars too and you're not even sure if you're going in the right direction anymore. Then it's time to go to bed.

[nocturne blaze]

best systems atm for prospector mining?

[mighty prawn]

Lyria

[clever quarry]

is there any difference in the mining laser sizes? Like would it be beneficial to go for a larger mining ship because of the size 2s or does it not matter and they are just placeholders atm? From what i can tell they are 99% similar and both require modules to mine anything so i'm trying to figure out if i should jsut go prospector to save money

[prime pine]

I believe a lot of it is the range for the laser head. i.e. the size 2 on the Mole can be further away from the rock than the size 1 on the Prospector.

[ivory gust]

Laser range is the only difference at this time

[misty coyote]

Aren't the Mole lasers more powerful? Seems stupid otherwise

[ivory gust]

No, just longer range

The ROC-DS laser is more powerful than the normal ROC though

[misty coyote]

And the Prosp and Mole lasers?

Erkul tells me it's the same...

Because size 2 makes no odds.

Is this a balance issue? Surely having a higher potential power would stand the Mole out against the ship half its size...

[clever quarry]

Thats what i was thinking. in the rational terms the bigger laser would be more powerful and have better times at mining quantanium, but i think they just left it like that until they revisit it again. It still sucks though because you should get better mining results from larger lasers but oh well.

[pliant zephyr]

Hey I havent bought the game yet- would you guys says mining (or cargo) is generally pvp-free? How often do you guys run into hostiles or pirates? thanks

[prime pine]

I only surface mine, and as long as I'm smart with my spots (on Lyria for example), I've never been jumped while mining.

[ivory gust]

As I said, just longer range

[topaz plover]

ahh but doesnt atmo in lyria mess up your runs? i prefer mining in belt when i do mine

[topaz plover]

is no part of game u cant expect a player show up .. best course is to get into n org or large group so u have protection .. could even hire escorts but who;s to say they arent hired as pirtes already.. i have been in game since pu was live.. is no profession thats safe.. butlike i said u can join larger groups for safety.. i do alot of cargo and their isnt much to it.. pretty safe. but minning is bet cash in game so far

[prime pine]

Not sure what you mean? As in hard to locate your spot?

[topaz plover]

no like eat hydrogen and take longer to exit to get ot refinery.. in the belt its turn qt dock unload make money .. on lyria its mine.. fly out of atmo , then qt then dockl etc.. not to mention u need go into atmo and find rocks.. using precious hydrogen.. cutting into profit margins

people will find you anywhere .. even in belt if super lucky ..

[prime pine]

Ah, gotcha. So that's a good point. Might be because I haven't ever had great luck in the belt when I was starting out learning the mining trade. Also, I like the scenery 🤷‍♂️

[topaz plover]

as perty as it is its not worht the cash in my opinion .. im err Essosouili of a Banu org lol cant abide the loss a profit

overhead get expensive as u go from solo play to group.. and in 3.18 you need escorts.. or you will get robbed as is only one system at the moment and encounters are oftn with 250 thousand players monthly and peeks of 400k players monthly lol you will def run into people.. and none are friends dont ask .. lol it makes u a target

[prime pine]

ehh, to each their own.

[topaz plover]

lol

true 😉 just trying help ya i have done it all since pu went live all them years ago.. 🙂 and happy mining mate:) may cassa shine on you

[prime pine]

cool 🙂 👍

[kindred gust]

Best laser for quantanium?

[ivory gust]

Lancet

[pastel inlet]

Can you pickup cargo from everus harbour?

I cant seem to find the terminal in the cargo center

[jovial matrix]

Gotta go to the galleria

Look for the admin office, it’ll be an orange wall

[pastel inlet]

ooooh ok thanks

i thought it would make sense to be in the cargo center

its cargo xD

[jovial matrix]

Yeah

[pastel inlet]

About to go on my first cargo run, rented a cutlass black

[hasty tendon]

Out of curiosity, why that one?

[jovial matrix]

Don’t expect to make very much

[hasty tendon]

Hopefully you'll profot over the rental/fuel fees

[kindred gust]

Best Location for Quantanium mining?

[vestal ravine]

Lyria or the Belt.

[grizzled ice]

what vehicles can fit in the avenger titan

if any

[misty coyote]

Greycat PTV will, the STV can too by all accounts

Knox

Had a notion to fix mining...

Make Quantanium 2 or 3 times more valuable

[hollow sedge]

What’s the best way to earn money?

[misty coyote]

Beg...

[hollow sedge]

Without begging

[misty coyote]

Right now, people will throw it at you

[grizzled ice]

dope i was praying this would fit on it

[hollow sedge]

Cargo hauling or mining?

[misty coyote]

Mining Quant is good...

Cargo Hauling is only worth doing in a big momma

[hollow sedge]

Ahh okay

[misty coyote]

I'm just about to fix mining though.... Letter to Chris is being penned...

Make Quantanium 3 times more to well per unit.

Drop the Quant rocks to a fraction of what it is now.

[grizzled ice]

the community is very nice

especially towards wipe

i was like 1500 of getting something and i asked somebody for 1500 because i didnt wanna go out to make that extra 1500 and someone just gave me a million instead

[little stratus]

mostly because there are people who'll have a shitload of ships and can print 10 million within the first week after a wipe

[grizzled ice]

yeah economy is so fucked i feel like for some people

[little stratus]

and every wipe someone will figure out a way to print auec quickly through a bug/exploit

CIG definitely knows this but probably doesn't care since it'll be wiped anyways

[pastel inlet]

Anyone know where to sell cargo at MIC-L1?

[jovial matrix]

no? STV is too big

[opaque solstice]

Galleria through the elevators (not hangars)

there is the Admin Office there I believe

[pastel inlet]

Thanks found it

I bought to much medical supplies and now i cant sell it all

where should i go to sell it

[austere pawn]

what is teh best mining ship for starters?

[pastel inlet]

I think from watching videos today people say rent them if u are new

or do hand mining

but im a newb too

[misty coyote]

Rentals will get you into the mood for mining. The real money is in Quantanium mining which isn't possible in a rental..

[austere pawn]

what is the difference between the mining and cutting tool attachment?

[ivory gust]

The mining attachment mines, the cutting attachment doesn't do anything currently but would be used to cut through things like doors

[shrewd hamlet]

ROC for gem mining and Prospector for Quant and mineral mining.
You will need a ship, probably Cutlass black/Nomad is best to carry the ROC or the minerals to sell

[austere pawn]

can i store 2 roc-ds in a andromeda constellation

[misty coyote]

Why would you want 2?

Why would you want 1?

I think only 1 will fit....2 will fit into a Taurus, and they have a longer cargo bay

[ivory gust]

No, definitely not. Two normal ROCs already barely fit

[simple lintel]

Guys, I got a ROC to try some mining but I cannot control it. As soon as I turn the engine on it goes full speed forward and there is no stopping it short of turning the engine off. what do I do wrong?

[shrewd hamlet]

are you pressing c? You may have cruise control switched on

[simple lintel]

thank you, I will try, all the best

[shrewd hamlet]

and you

[pastel inlet]

Does Orison TDD buy alot of supply of meds, like the Lorville CBD?

[plush maple]

Cities will probably be able to buy the most I imagine- I don't know how much you bought though

Stations will only hold 5k max I think- could be wrong, I don't trade in med supply usually

[analog echo]

Is there a means of knowing weather or not a planet/moon will have have wind gusts? I was mining yesterday and the wind gusts were throwing off my aim a lot, so I was wondering if there's a way to counteract it or avoid it altogether.

I should mention I was using a prospector

[plush maple]

Certain moons and planets are known for high winds/extreme weather

Lyria is a calmer one which is why it's very popular

[analog echo]

Is there a way to know which planets have gusts though?

[plush maple]

Daymar is a good spot too

[analog echo]

Cause I'm mining on the moons on Microtech since Lyria has been generating too many rocks that are too large for me which made the experience quite frustrating, and the Aaron Halo isn't ideal either since most of the rocks are bugged

[plush maple]

What's your target to mine?

[plush maple]

Are you aware of how to change scanner angles to identify rocks in the halo?

[analog echo]

I just want to be able to consistently obtain 32SCU of pure quant, and without having to leave 2-3 clusters behind due to size constaints ideally with less than 30 minutes of prospecting for clusters.

Yeah, I did the Aaron Halo a lot initially and when they weren't bugged it was hands down the best mining location.

Also yes I've played with Scan angle

[plush maple]

Well if you aren't doing the halo and want to avoid the rough weather, lyria is your best bet

Also nice that you can identify any cluster as Quant there

[analog echo]

Is there one of the moons of microtech that has less severe winds?

or are the winds less severe on the daytime side vs the nighttime side?

[plush maple]

Not that I'm aware of but I'd look it up

Not sure on day vs night either

[analog echo]

I would look it up but I'm not really sure how to form an accurate query for a Google Search

at least not on this topic

[plush maple]

I know I've seen a chart before, trying to find it

[analog echo]

I can do the searching, I just need to figure out what keywords to use.

I mean my job is in essence to be a professional Googler

[plush maple]

I'd guess anything close to 1 ATM will have wind

[analog echo]

Dang, so I was mining on the microtech moon with the least atmosphere (Clio) last night and even that was giving me trouble.

[plush maple]

Well there goes that theory lol

[analog echo]

I mean I haven't tried the other moons so it might still carry merit

[plush maple]

Alright i gotta get back to work- can't do stanton meteorology all shift lol good luck!

[analog echo]

Plus Lyria has 0.0 ATM and there's basically no wind there.

kk

Have fun with work, I'm going to start work as soon as I finish delivering this refined quantanium

[rocky kernel]

Iv tried all MT moons and MT itself, the quantanium is present but soooooooo scarce compared to Lyria.
Lyria has big rocks yes, but I found good 4-5.5mass with 30% - 40% quant way faster on lyria than MT system.

But that's just my experience.
Plus lyria is so fast to travel into with the thin atmosphere

My tip is to never stop for single rocks, always go for 2 or more, they are guaranteed quand on lyria

[hasty tendon]

I gave up on Lyria after starting to average 40-50 mins JUST to find a 2-rock location

[north oyster]

Might be method and not the location

Possible new patch for PTU today. Hoping VMA will get fixed so I can test mining for 3.18

[analog echo]

VMA?

[ivory gust]

You're not going to consistently obtain 32 SCU of pure Quant ever, especially not if you're not comfortable using surge/stampede to mine large rocks

[hollow sedge]

Alright, I got my cutlass black, my rented ROC, and the pente armor, so now I go to abredeen and start using the ROC to mine! Any other big tips before I try and get this show on the road lol

[misty coyote]

Ignore Dolvine

Gem rocks pop up at 2km as gems

Hadanite has a resistance of about 1.8 irrc

[hollow sedge]

Okay! I think I understand lol

[north oyster]

Vehicle Management App also called Vehicle Loadout Manager

[north oyster]

Quantum to OM-1 and dive down to the surface. It is always daylight there

[misty coyote]

When you scan, you can see the resistance before the gem name..

[hollow sedge]

Oh! okay, sorry this is my first time doing this

[north oyster]

yes, for the most part. Hadanite is always between 1.1 and 1.9

be patient, also change out your ROC about every two or three trips

[misty coyote]

You're in good company!

Most of the Citizens just want to help others...

[north oyster]

you can also sell the gems at any outpost

[hollow sedge]

okay, I have stationed at um, HURL1 the Grass station, its where all my guns are, I like get everything there, then fly to hurston

[north oyster]

you pick up your ROC at one of the two outpost on Aberdeen, you can also sell the gems there. You can check the loot boxes for Water and food while at the stations

[hollow sedge]

Ah okay! I make it a job to always have food and water on me

[north oyster]

If the collection beam doesn't seem to work, just power the ROC down and then try again. I also sometimes get out and pick up one gem and exam it. Not sure it helps but just a habit

You can also direct buy food/water to your ship from the refinery kiosk

[hollow sedge]

Awesome!

[analog echo]

When the Aaron Halo wasn't full of bugged rocks I was pulling in 32SCUs of pure quantanium quite regularly.

There was once when I did a Round trip in the section between CRU-L1 to ARC-L3 I managed to launch, QT, Prospect, Mined 32SCUs of quantanium, QT back & landed all within 15 minutes. Although, I realize that kind of luck is quite rare, it is still possible.

[hollow sedge]

on abredeen where is the mining place? somehow I went to a cave and now im lost in a cave... lol

[hasty tendon]

Ooooh lost in cave is bad

@hollow sedge are familiar with surface scanning? Adjust angle of scan (from 360⁰ to 2⁰) with "." and "," keys. Fly around and look for rock symbols that JUST appear inside of 2km (anything detected >2km is too big for ROC). Caves are only for mining by hand really with a multi-tool with mining laser attachment.

Check out this video especially at 5:30ish
https://youtu.be/n-Wz7yZ-_KY

[hollow sedge]

I am not, I will have to watch this, some guy is camping the cave entrance.... kinda boring

[hasty tendon]

If you're on in 4 or 5 hrs I'll party up and walk ya through it if you still want assistance

In game "Anaxtus"

[viral heath]

not the 90deg and then switch to 2? but usually for roc... just spam 90 and look for those that pop up within 2km?

[hasty tendon]

The switch to 2 you can see what type a rock or rood is from 12.2 or less km away... sorry my bad

[viral heath]

all good

[hasty tendon]

Edit

[ivory gust]

That only works in space, not on planets

And also only works in mining mode, so not useful for ROC mining

Also note that for most ships (including cutlass) ROC gems show up at around 3km. Some ships can scan them out to 5km

[hasty tendon]

Thanks for clarifying

[waxen crown]

hey everyone wheres the best place to get a better lazer miner for the prospecter

[ivory gust]

!itemfinder

The Lancet laser is only sold in a couple places, you can look it up there or on erkul

[wary tusk]

Universal Item Finder

Use the website to search for any item (and where to buy them) in-game.

[vestal ravine]

What I do for Roc mining is a 179 degree ping for the boxes to populate and then set a course from one to the other to overfly them within the 3 km or so and keep tapping the TAB key every 15 seconds and if they are mineable gems they will turn into the blue diamonds. You can fly a bit fast to reach the blue boxes. That's my GENERAL approach. You can adjust with experience. Also clusters of the white smaller diamonds can indicate gems also.

[austere pawn]

so uh

Whats the best moon for mining gems?

[ivory gust]

Aberdeen, Arial, Daymar

[dense dome]

So I went to an HMS outpost and filled my ship with diamonds then flew to orville but the trading post has no option for me to sell the diamonds back

[vestal ravine]

Make sure you are not at the TDD area but get to the Admin station...

[dense dome]

im in the admin station

at a trade and shipping console

[vestal ravine]

Go back to the ship do not claim it but get it in the hanger and check the condition of the ROC itself. Can you open the cargo hold and see the gems? You should of sold them at the Storage building at the HMS outpost.

[dense dome]

I didnt mine them I just bought them at HMS

[vestal ravine]

From what I know you cannot BUY the ROc gems they have to be mined. Do you have a screenshot or name of the diamond?

[dense dome]

hang on game crashed again

[dense dome]

I can see the crates but I dont know what menu i need to go to to get a better view of my cargo

i just started a few hours ago

[vestal ravine]

okay...

[vestal ravine]

What kind of ship do you have?

The I key opens various inventories...

[errant galleon]

what’s the ore to look for when ROC mining?

[hasty tendon]

Hadanite

Ignore all others

[hasty tendon]

Did you get it sorted out?

[dense dome]

yeah I went to the help vc

[rustic canyon]

any groups?

[jovial matrix]

Hit up #looking-for-session

[rustic canyon]

I was just asking for mining

[ivory gust]

Diamonds aren't something you mine with a ROC

[tepid coral]

what u looking for?

@rustic canyon

[tawny path]

I havent played in quite awhile is mining still good?

[viral heath]

mining always good..

just that the scanning have significantly changed

[misty coyote]

The act mining is....

What you do with the stuff after..... Eh..... But that's not mining's fault.

The fact there is only 1 game in town too.....

But mining non quant feels like hobbling

[proper gust]

Alright guys i am a noobie and want to start with mining. Anyone any tips for me

[prisma scarab]

Sure check out my video (or find another) that cover roc mining enough to get started. If your after prospector then I have one of those two on my channel. Itl help get you started.
https://youtu.be/y79YM3a1Vlg

[idle lintel]

any miners in here ?

[prisma scarab]

yup

[tepid coral]

You guys still mining?

If anyone wanna do some mining dm me i got a mole

[livid siren]

Are there any ships that have better that standard scanner range to scout and find mineable rocks?

[misty coyote]

I found the Taurus had really good range.... But might be just an illusion

[ancient canyon]

hay, when i extract with Roc Mining, the car is picking very very slowly the stones up (10 sec per stone). Any trick to extract it faster?

[ivory gust]

Yes. As far as ships that can carry a ROC that I've personally tested, MSR and Carrack both have about 5km, Valkyrie has 4km-ish

"Normal" range for most ships is 3km, which the Cutlass has.

For scouting, the Merlin and Archimedes both have ~5km

[eager galleon]

Someone brought me here after I asked on what filters work for the Prospector, anyone got a clue?

[ivory gust]

"filters"?

[eager galleon]

For mineral collection when mining on prospector. They said "Also get filters to reduce rubbish picked up when extracting quant"

[ivory gust]

FLTR modules

[eager galleon]

that's the one, I'm new to this but I'm asking which type works for the prospector

[ivory gust]

Any of them work, the FLTR-XL is the best. However, they only reduce the amount of Inert Material collected, not the amounts of other trash ores, so not worth it compared to using modules like surge/stampede that enable you to mine larger rocks

[nocturne hamlet]

It’s 20% reduction

You need to buy two of the filters

[eager galleon]

I'm lost on the subject of larger rock mining. I'm simply wanting an upgrade from greycat ROC mining since I get myself 200k an hour at best. I had larger rocks in mind when purchasing the prospector, what mining tools and "surge/stampede" work best for large rock mining?

[ancient canyon]

whats good for mining ? (ROC Mining) I found MIneable COmmodities is this good?

[ivory gust]

200k an hour is fantastic

The only upgrade you need for a prospector is to change the mining laser for a Lancet MH1 head. Optionally you can also upgrade the quantum drive to a Spectre (for fast short-distance trips) or Atlas (for reasonably fast but with the ability to still go anywhere in the system without refueling).

If you're mining in the Aaron Halo (asteroid belt) you can use whatever modules you want, you don't need any.
If you're mining on Lyria, you want to bring two Surge modules (or one surge and one Optimum) and a Stampede module so you can crack larger rocks.

[ivory gust]

Hadanite

[nocturne hamlet]

I don’t use surge module and stick to under 5500 size rocks

[ancient canyon]

is this still on the patch that the only good materials shows 1km around?

[ivory gust]

No, stuff that only shows up within 1km is hand mining rocks, not stuff sized for the ROC. You're looking for stuff that shows up within 3km

[eager galleon]

What is the most valuable and most commonly gathered material when large rock mining? And what tool upgrades would make it easier when doing it with a prospector? Also is the Lancet MH2 compatible with the prospector or is that why you told me to get the MH1?

[ancient canyon]

okay ty. im 100% new in mining. what is Mineable Commodities

[ivory gust]

Quantanium, and I literally already answered the other half

[eager galleon]

Ok, my only concern is if I should get a Lancet MH2 or HM1

Is there a difference?

[ivory gust]

I said MH1

[eager galleon]

ok, someone else said MH2 so I had to be sure

[ivory gust]

MH2 is for the MOLE

[eager galleon]

Alright, and what about the FLTR? What model type works well for it again?

[ivory gust]

#industrial-professions message

[eager galleon]

Alright, thank you so much for all the info!

[misty coyote]

When Physicalised components are out, and the salvaging of them is a thing, the Reclaimer can just scoop up ships into its hold right?... Grab a couple of bounties and have a little side project in the hold whilst you're QTing across the verse....

Or will the Reclaimer just munch the ships?

[lusty granite]

how do I gain access to cargo missions?

[ivory gust]

What do you mean by cargo missions? Currently there's just delivery (fedex) missions, in the delivery category of the contracts

[lusty granite]

like the ones with larger quantities of cargo

[ivory gust]

There aren't any

[lusty granite]

currently I only get the ones with one small package

[lusty granite]

oh

wait why are cargo ships so popular then?

[little stratus]

they do trade runs

[swift raven]

you don't need to have a mission to trade cargo

[little stratus]

basically you buy cargo from places and sell for a profit

[swift raven]

you fill up with cargo at once place where you buy it cheap, then you sell it at another place where you get more money for it

[lusty granite]

ohhh

[little stratus]

maybe there will be freight missions in future who knows

[swift raven]

that's assuming you can do either, if there's enough stock to buy to fill your ship or if there's enough demand at the other end to buy your cargo off you

which there never is

[lusty granite]

I feel dumb now lmao

[swift raven]

which is why trading is a scam most of the time

[little stratus]

I suspect the Hull series is designed for freight contracts

[little stratus]

buy/sell scrap ^-^

[lusty granite]

ok thanks!

[hexed sable]

where can I get a cargo box?

[little stratus]

Cargo deck of some space stations

[quaint badge]

Every time you DO find some hidden gem route with a reliable source of fuckin' Laranite or whatever, you have approximately 24 hours to use it before some twat on Youtube uploads "2 BILLION aUEC AN HOUR TRADE ROUTE" and exposes it for everyone to drain

[swift raven]

classic

[quaint badge]

Anyway, is mining with a Mole actually worth it? I've been doing quant mining for all my cash so far, is the Mole a big boost over just, two prospectors?

[old gale]

What’s the site that gives details about pretty good cargo runs

[quaint badge]

https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes

[old gale]

@quaint badge thank you

[ivory gust]

The only real advantage the MOLE has is the larger cargo space, so you can carry up to 96 SCU back and aren't limited to 32.

However, if you actually have 2 people, you're probably just better off with 2 prospectors so you can split up to scout faster.

[quaint badge]

And is there any point to mining outside of quant in a prospector? Can you make as good or better money with just, mining fucking aluminium?

[ivory gust]

Absolutely not.

Quant sells for significantly more per unit than anything else (double the next highest), and in addition is much easier to find in large quantities

[ancient canyon]

hay how can i see whats in my Ship (I mean Cargo for Trading when im not on a console who i can sell it)

[hasty tendon]

You able to fill that before qt goes boom??

[ivory gust]

#industrial-professions message

[hasty tendon]

What's the min% qt roids you're busting for that? Couple 30% and rest 2-5%?

[ivory gust]

That cluster was like 2x 40%s and a couple 20-30% iirc

[hasty tendon]

And did you split that x2 or 3? Just curious how that works for economy

[hasty tendon]

Lyria?

[ivory gust]

Nope, Halo

And I was solo, so I didn't have to split 🙂

[hasty tendon]

Noice!

[hexed nymph]

Does It really take over half a day for quant to refine?

[stoic parrot]

yes.. yes it does

sometimes more than a day

[ivory gust]

Depends on refining method, but yes.

Once it's in the refinery you can take your Prospector back out for another trip

[civic fog]

To the new citizens joining the ranks; find a friend, get in a Mole and you will have an amazing experience... #sc-screenshots message

[velvet totem]

What refinery has the maximum yield for maximum profit? (Idc how long it takes to refine)

And its always the Dinyx Solvenation method, right?

[quaint badge]

Dinyx Solvenation and Ferron Exchange (I think it was this) have the same yield

Dinyx just costs less and takes longer

A full load of quant on Ferron will take like, 20 hours for 12k

Dinyx will do 1d15h for 6k

[velvet totem]

Awesome thanks! What station refinery has the maximum yield for maximum profit? (Idc how long it takes to refine)

[misty coyote]

Doesnt' matter

I don't even know why most of these methods exists apart from the shortest and longest

[rocky moat]

I mined a bunch of quantanium, went back to arc l1, stored the ship but at the refiner it shows only the crap material is left in the ships argo. no quantanium ist anymore in the ship after storing the prospector... did they make it so the quant will just be deleted when storing the prospector?

[tepid coral]

Dm me if you are looking to make some money in the mole

[glacial dagger]

#looking-for-session would be a better spot for this

[tepid coral]

i found more people here to mine with than in lfg

[ivory gust]

https://sc-trade.tools/refineries

CRU L1 has the largest bonus for quantanium (3%), HUR L1 has the worst of those (-6%). If a station isn't listed, you can check in game at the refinery terminal. A lot of the newer stations have -20% for Quant.

[velvet totem]

Thank you!

[grim tulip]

When you refine, can you log off and it be fine?

[ivory gust]

Yes, it keeps running in real time while you're logged off, and you don't need to stay at the refinery

[grim tulip]

That’s sick, was one thing he was worried about skimming through here a couple times

[ivory gust]

I don't think any of the longer timers require you to be logged on... Ship claim, prison sentence, refinery all continue while offline

[quaint badge]

Nope, that means your quant expired. If the timer runs out (or you crash hard enough, which reduces the timer too) it either detonates and kills ye, or transforms into inert material. This can happen randomly too, as a bug. Storing your ship stops the timer.

[velvet totem]

oh i assumed it always explodes haha

[ivory gust]

Did you land in a hangar? If so, yeah, your Quant probably went inert. There are a bunch of bugs around mining ships landing in hangars with Quant right now.

Safer bet is to get your ship impounded by NOT calling ATC and floating up to a closed hangar door. If you don't see the impound message in 30 seconds, try a different hangar.

You only need to pay the impound fee if you're taking the ship back out again within 15minutes, and even then it's only 5k

[velvet totem]

why do mining ships have soo many bugs?? 😦
And my mole has all kinds of UI bugs and the button on the elevator rarely works to get into it >_<

Does moving the laser around on the rock make it charge faster?

[north oyster]

Yes/No ... sometimes a position change does assist does help with charging the rock. For the most part I don't do it too much, only slight jogs to see if it helps. Use to be you could hit the edge and get a faster charge but not so much now.

It's not going to make a huge percentage difference, just a very small change that may or may not remain.

[sage summit]

Some say that you need to find position, when there are more sparks flying from the rock during mining. Can't confirm it from my experience though.

[hasty tendon]

I usually sit 2-3m away at 100%. I have found if it stalls out (usually 50-75% to green), I can alternate space bar and ctrl up and down in 1 to 2 ft movements and it really speeds it up.

I'll post a video comparing the same rock later tonight.

[velvet totem]

Awesome thanks!

[hasty tendon]

just be sure to back away before it busts if you're that close LOL I forgot that my first time trying and was stranded with 32 SCU of qt floating there wasted

[weary matrix]

I've been using my Connie Phoenix for some cargo ops and am looking for a new Quantum drive, any recommendations?

[mighty prawn]

XL-1 is the fastest one

Had you been using the default one? Default QT is very slow on connie

[wary shale]

Can someone explain how mining prices work, as a new guy? Like for Quantanium is it 88 creds for 1 scu? So in a prospector would it be 32x88 for 2.8k creds for an entire load? That seems pretty low

[glacial dagger]

Nope. Thats 88aUEC/unit of refined quant

[wary shale]

So I haven't actually done any mining yet, how much refined quant would you expect to get out of 32scu then?

[glacial dagger]

A pure 32SCU of quant ore at highest percentage would likely be about...30SCU?

Depending on the process you use

[wary shale]

Wait, so you're saying it would only be 88x30=2.64k, after refining?

I must be missing part of the process because that sounds really low for how much effort goes in

[hasty tendon]

1 scu = 100 quant, so 32 scu load would be 3200 x 88 = 281,600

[wary shale]

Ah, I understand. I usually play Elite Dangerous, I'm used to 1 ton = 1 unit so I'm always a little confused by SC's cargo metrics. 281k makes a lot more sense, thank you!

[velvet totem]

Is the RAFT useful for cargo hauling or hauling minerals to sell from the refinery?

Not sure how the RAFT works with its cargo containers

In the current game meta and its limited mechanics

[ivory gust]

Not awful, not great

[quaint badge]

It works fine. The containers are just a cargo hold. At 96scu, the cargo hold is nice, but for 300k more you get a Freelancer MAX, which is larger, easier to control, can do other things, and has 24scu more capacity. Alternatively, just save up your quant and hire a Constellation Andromeda, which costs 70k for the day and has the same cargo capacity.

[velvet totem]

Dang I'm trying to find a reason to buy the RAFT because I love how it looks

[jovial matrix]

Buying IRL or ingame?

[velvet totem]

Probably just ingame

[jovial matrix]

Then buy it

If you like the ship then you should get it

[velvet totem]

But if it isn't very useful for anything, no point

[vestal ravine]

You can use it for trade runs. I can show you a good route with your ship. Dm me...

[old veldt]

My ROC wont shoot its laser nor can I move the arm. I am in mining mode

[rocky kernel]

Try turning it on and off

[rotund rover]

does anyone know the best route right now?

[weary matrix]

Yeah, upgrade time

[hasty tendon]

didn't get to it tonight, but will try again tomorrow... it does make a difference of that I'm certain

[old gale]

Can you use the Aurora MR for Cargo? Although probably not recommended.

[jovial matrix]

you can, but you will make next to nothing for profit

[prisma scarab]

If I was online I would but I’m at work. You can go rent it at a refinery station for less than 30k a day. You just won’t be able to mine quant decently as you can’t change the laser.

[little stratus]

no, rule 5

[prisma scarab]

Plus your enjoy it more earning it

[pastel jewel]

What does rule 5 mean

[zenith maple]

its part of the discord #rules_and_information

but I would just rent one, or ask nicely ingame. a lot of people with a lot of money currently, with no real care for it. since we are getting a whipe soonTM

[pastel jewel]

Thank you for the information

[shell hatch]

Can I get a mining gun on my starter ship

[zenith maple]

unless your starter ship is the prospector, no

[shell hatch]

Oh ok I tried to find a cave yesterday but couldn't find any

[zenith maple]

you have 3 ways to mine, handmine with the multitool in caves mostly, ROC driving around, and 1 out of 2 dedicated mining ships

[shell hatch]

Is there a way to waypoint a cave?

[zenith maple]

you can get missions to go into caves

to find out what happen to X

[shell hatch]

I think I will stick to bounty hunting

[kindred gust]

How much worth is 1 SCU refined quantanium

Is there a overview with price lists?

[little stratus]

https://sc-trade.tools/

[sinful parcel]

if youre doing any type of trade I highly suggest sc trade tools it is almost a must to have running on a second creen

screen

[vestal ravine]

The cave missions do not have a direct QT travel to them but gets you within 4,000 meters. So I can never find the actual cave but I am going to Daymar to try and pinpoint an area that has 3 caves.

[hasty tendon]

1 SCU = 100 quantity of ore/refined product.
1 SCU of Quantanium = 4400 (raw)/8800 (refined) credits

[wary ruin]

Hello Cargo and Mining. I would like to learn to mine. I am not sure even where to start.

[safe umbra]

Here to learn the same thing

[glacial dagger]

@wary ruin @safe umbra Would you two like some help?

[wary ruin]

Yes please

[glacial dagger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFB_Tt6Ks0A

[wary ruin]

The first line of this is to buy the prospector

[glacial dagger]

Yup

That's the first part

[safe umbra]

Pretty much just wanna be showed vwv I got a cutlass black to transport shit

[prisma scarab]

The videos like do show you. 😛

[wary ruin]

I am going to try and figure it out that video assumes I can buy a prospector which I can not

[glacial dagger]

W...Why are you tryign to get into mining then?

Wait, are you wanting to rent a prospector as well?

[wary ruin]

So I can buy a prospector

I would like to learn as much as I can about this game. It seems like a good place to learn and start would be mining

[glacial dagger]

Ahhh, I got you

Unfortunately, I would personally recommend having a look down the combat isle first. It's a much quicker way to earn money fast

[wary ruin]

I am not a fighter.

[glacial dagger]

Unfortunatly, until you have earnt the money to outright buy a prospector, it's just not as useful

With mining, the best material to go for is Quantanium. Stock/rented Prospectors have a hard time with this stuff though, as it is unstable and once you take on the first chunk, you only have 14 mins to get it to the refinery stations or it go kaboom.

However, if you are still thinking of trying out the rented prospector route, then this one might be more useful for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_i_TJEdXFM

@wary ruin does this help?

[wary ruin]

I will watch it here in a bit

I have a few other videos I am trying to consume

[rocky moat]

I have tried out doing some bunker missions and bounty mission back to back. I came to the conclusion that prospector mining is yet to be beaten

in terms of income

[velvet totem]

You can make plenty of money mining without a prospector

dont let these guys tel you otherwise

Hand mining and ROC mining make plenty of money for you to save up and eventually get a Prospector

[wary ruin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExMVXVWHiAQ

This is the one I am going to start with until I can buy the prospector.

[neon socket]

Does 3.18 fix the Mining Scanning issues (rocks are not scanned and provide no scan data)?

[vestal ravine]

Once the wipe is past new miners should seek out Mole pilots. Good money to buy your ship just don't blow up the guys ship lol.

[wary ruin]

Thats why I am trying to find a job in this game that I can get decent enough at that I can do after the wipe. I am hoping mining is it.

[still sentinel]

I found my Niche, Bunkers and looting them.
Seems like there is always a need for Scopes, Snipers, Railguns and grenade launchers

[velvet totem]

ARGO Starter Ship, when?

[misty coyote]

Yes please!

[misty coyote]

I'm going to do the same thing... But with mining outposts.

Gonna need to buy a suitable ship though.. As I have 1 only.

[still sentinel]

Bunkers are usually in mining outposts, no? (I’m still new)

I have a pledge Titan Avenger, that was a great ship, now I have aUEC bought bunch of ships like Sentinel, Redeemer and Valkyrie.

But I think the best is to get something like a Pisces for bunkers, so fast to move around

[misty coyote]

Mining Outposts are where you deliver boxes too, and spawn ground vehicles.

[still sentinel]

Ohhh, sorry, yea you are right! Those I loot too whenever I get near them

[wary ruin]

I just want to get to the point were playing this game starts making me ingame money and not losing it.

[misty coyote]

Soon TM

Cash will come.... Don't make that your goal.

[velvet totem]

I can loan you my Prospector if you'd like

[still sentinel]

Just get a fun ship and do your thing, that’s the shit

[misty coyote]

In 3.18 the move all button will be the thing...

All that fruit just left....

[wary ruin]

My current goal is to learn how to mine but that would require me to not run my ship into a planet.

[misty coyote]

Go to the Aaron Halo instead...

There is no other way to mine...

.....

[velvet totem]

wrong

[misty coyote]

Apart from planet side......

But really.....the Halo is superior

It's really preference here... Though I think the rocks are bigger on Lyria....

I prefer the Halo.... Just feels better...

[ivory gust]

Doesn't work, only the ship owner can interact with the refinery or cargo terminals

Unless you pay him for his work, I guess

[wary ruin]

I dont care where I am I just want to split a rock. In all fairness this is only day three of playing this game. I make a lot of mistakes.

[misty coyote]

I'd really go to the Halo... Go hire a Prospector, or jsuy ask someone to buy your one.... Loads of sugar mommas/daddas out there sitting on many Mils

No chance of crashing into the ground....

Just fly safe, lots of rocks around..

If you're just getting your hands on mining, and not really caring about making top bank

[velvet totem]

Can a ROC fit in a Cutter?

[zenith maple]

if you are transporting at surface level, you kinda can stuff it in there with enough lube

but you cant lock it down and do quantum travel

think the smallest you can go is nomad

but there is a reason most people will opt for things like the cutlass or freelancer

[still sentinel]

I think this question fits here possibly if you squint a little.

I want to loot all the “cargo” in Bunker missions, so I need a 1SCU cargo box, and I am thinking to bring it in a little Cyclone vehicle.

And I have sold some weapons and I’m going to buy a little luxury boat, either 400i or 600i, but I cannot make sense of the big differences in Armor, cargo and utilisation of the two ships.

Any input what would be the safest of the two? For running small amount of cargo

[livid siren]

Nomad can perfectly trasnport a roc or cyclone. Its unique superb ship, you can even stuff an ursa on it and quantum no problem. It is much better than cutlass for one person.

[plush flume]

400i has tiny guns 600i has big guns

[still sentinel]

So 600i for offensive capability.
Shield wise, what does it do that the 400i has 3 S4 powerplants and 1 shield vs the 600i dual shields and single S5 powerplant?

[wary ruin]

Where should I go to mine gems I am hurston but I cant find a rock to mine

[ancient canyon]

hay what is a good traiding route for big ships with a lot of Cargo Space? I farmed something like SLAM and you dont get so much every tour. or you wait 3hours+ on terminal

[quaint badge]

so is the demand and supply at every location shared across shards?

[ivory gust]

Yes

[quaint badge]

God damnit, cheers

[ivory gust]

Yeah, it's pretty dumb. Not changing for 3.18 either... Hopefully they'll work on it soon

[jovial matrix]

oh hey channel name got changed

[vestal ravine]

I can show you a good route. Need 2 hours. Friend me if you want.

Salvage is the new Meta.

[ancient canyon]

i sended you a message in discord private

[weak grotto]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[wary thicket]

salvage

[cosmic token]

Hey all, I'm looking for **dedicated ** cargo ship, should I go for Caterpillar or C2 if we consider upcoming cargo refactor?. My other ships are Carrack, Reclaimer, Max & Corsair

[little stratus]

C2

[ivory gust]

C2 still has the advantage for 3.18. That may change in the future

[little stratus]

holds more cargo, dream to fly compared to the catepillar

[ivory gust]

There's no manual loading or unloading in 3.18, cargo still just magically shows up in your hold

[little stratus]

catepillar's defining feature is its compartmentalisation/modularity that's not implemented yet

[little stratus]

christ i hope when that comes it's optional

[ivory gust]

Probably either manually load, or wait out a timer for npcs to do it

[little stratus]

would kill myself if i had to hand load ~700 SCU of cargo

[cosmic token]

+1, buying my C2 back then

[marble crater]

you're in luck, thanks to the Mule you can load 2 SCU at once!

[little stratus]

😦

dear CIG playing space trucker can be fun, but playing space minimum wage dock worker is most certainly not fun

[ivory gust]

The game enjoys adding functionality that isn't fun, I fully expect you'll need to load your ships box by box

[little stratus]

gonna be one day when we'd need to cook our own meals

and have 3 square meals a day

and sleep at night oh god

[old gale]

Wait isn’t time relative to where the sun is in relation to your position

[ivory gust]

I mean, you already need to eat way more than 3 meals per day in star Citizen, the hunger goes down so fast... I'm having like two burritos an hour

[little stratus]

yea

[little stratus]

then again i suppose if you had to wear a suit of armour constantly and run kilometres on end

maybe we do need 2 burritos an hour

SC character's metabolism rates must be through the roof

[misty coyote]

And they are all shredded

Well.... Maybe not the veggie burrito....

[keen hollow]

I’ve been trying to mine quantanium on lyria with my mole but for the life of me I cant find any rocks over like 10% any suggestions?

[misty coyote]

Go to the Halo instead......

Yeah.... I'm bias.....

[proven arrow]

Can someone show me how to start mining because I have no clue how it works. I’m on EU

[sand crypt]

Is the valkyrie able to store cargo now?

[rugged axle]

Change regions.

Remember, mining is all based on luck. Some times you WONT find a good rock, no matter how much you search. Other times your first cluster will be 4 30% rocks.

You can try halo, but mole isn't great there due to scanning.

[pliant matrix]

it always was. but not much. 40scu or something iirc

[civic fog]

28 scu my friend 😎

[ancient canyon]

hay, im new in mining and i fly with prospector, how can i throw bad minerals away?

dont know whats the exterior is

[pliant matrix]

you can't