industrial-professions

[mighty prawn]

Before I tried Corsair and 600i in IAE, I had been using Titan, so I didn't think I would be interested in big ships. But now I am 😄

Big ships are alright, just takes some time getting used to it

[north oyster]

I"m really jazzed about the 600i offering, the Explorer has peaked my interest

[jovial matrix]

Indeed

[north oyster]

*rework

[mighty prawn]

was it the t2 medbed?

[jovial matrix]

Never thought I would buy a connie, but I really like my taurus. Just takes time getting used to flying it and such

[north oyster]

yes, it was @mighty prawn

Taurus was my intro to the game, the addition started shortly after that

plus the true cargo and ramp area for the 600i Explorer rework is excellent

[mighty prawn]

Yeah, a lot of people are paying attention to 600i because of the medbed. I hope the price does not raise up than it is now. I really want a good CCU deal 😄

[north oyster]

I could see that beauty being my everyday, LOL

[mighty prawn]

I watched some videos, but I did not see any pictures of the cargo / ramp area for 600i Explorer, do you remember any specific details of this?

I only heard that it can fit up to nova

[north oyster]

I saw the concept picture with the Nova tank in the ship

[mighty prawn]

ok, I will look up again, I really want to see it

[north oyster]

I couldn't find the one with the tank in it

[mighty prawn]

Thanks. And wow, this looks great!

Now I am hoping they do not release the rework before I can get a CCU chain. I think the next one is Invictas, right.

[north oyster]

yes, twice a year and ILW is the other 'big' sale

that broadcast that has the rework info about the 600i is worth a watch

[mighty prawn]

Ok, I will look it up

I do remember where some CIG employees were talking about it, but I lost interested when they were NOT showing what they were talking about. They talked like it's almost done, but I didn't sense that.

[north oyster]

they had graphics of some of the work, iirc

[mighty prawn]

I hope they did not touch the elevator straight to the cockpit, I really liked that.

[north oyster]

They claim that most of the external is about the same. There was suppose to be a hatch maybe? I can't recall

[north oyster]

Big issue found, CIG shutting down PTU for a bit

[jovial matrix]

What was this big issue?

[vestal ravine]

https://youtu.be/IrBfscRMCQk

[north oyster]

Thanks!

[teal ridge]

Are we still getting a wipe before Xmas

[north oyster]

I'd be rather surprised if 3.18 makes LIVE before Christmas, but stranger things have happened

[pliant matrix]

I think they said PTU release by the end of the year to everyone and live release on january. I hope for 1st or 2nd week of jan

[ivory gust]

No, they never said we'd get a wipe before christmas

Today's news post explicitly says 3.18 LIVE in january

[north oyster]

Gonna be a very bumpy ride

hopefully enough data will be gathered in Wave 1 to make some good progress. Since they already found a server lock, it must be making an impact

[frigid yacht]

https://youtu.be/DVGUPctiHMM

[north oyster]

PTU back online if you want to test Salvage

[hollow sedge]

thanks!

[hollow sedge]

are there any places that tend to have better stock of drugs? i can't fill up much of my freelancer max here in crusader

[jovial matrix]

Reclamation and disposal orinth on hurston, outpost 54 (I think) on microtech, and neun waste management all sell drugs. There’s probably more sites but those are the ones I know about

[hollow sedge]

thanks mate

[jovial matrix]

Also the jumptown locations, but those take longer to get to so I don’t really consider them

[hollow sedge]

i suppose

how much profit can you make optimally? i only made 80k after going to like 3 places in crusader

does stuff sell better in hurston?

[north oyster]

Contraband vice sales are super slow, it's not how much you can buy because you could fill a C2 BUT the buy back is super low and slow.

[hollow sedge]

what is better for cargo?

[north oyster]

Right now cargo is skewed to favor only the largest ships like the C2, CAT, etc. What are you running in?

[hollow sedge]

a freelancer max

i'm really just trying out new parts of the game before the wipe tbh

[north oyster]

Love the MAX but your margin is going to be tiny

[hollow sedge]

yeah i got 80k last time

[north oyster]

But you can learn the basics, etc. Making 80k in a MAX trading Vice isn't bad

time is the only down side

[hollow sedge]

i suppose, but yeah it isn't very time efficient

i spent around 400k buying out all the outposts i went to for that, so it isn't an awful return

[north oyster]

I think 2023 might be the year of Trade for SC but it's going to take awhile

[hollow sedge]

yeah

what is the current meta for trade

which items

[north oyster]

C2 hauling Titanium, Asitaine out of Ida, Laranite in what you can get and backfilling with titanium

[hollow sedge]

oh okay

[north oyster]

You can make about 30K in one short trip hauling scrap from Area18 TDD to ARC-L1

[hollow sedge]

what tend to be the profits for one haul of these?

[north oyster]

Astatine is about 100k if you can pull a full load

that's one trip

I don't recall Titanium

I think it's close to 100K also if you can get market price of 8.9 per unit (at a buy of 7.1)

[hollow sedge]

alright thanks!

do you know where i can find info for this sort of thing

like locations to buy and sell and stuff?

is there a website or yt channel or discord or something?

[jovial matrix]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[jovial matrix]

And UEXcorp

Don’t think there’s a command for that one

[jovial matrix]

I typically trade 10SCU of etam+neon at a time, that way I can basically garuntee I sell my load in one go. You can take your chances and buy 20SCU of each at a time, but you’re risking not being able to sell all of it in one go

Drug trading is time consuming compared to normal trading since you have to go to outposts scattered everywhere, but you definitely make more per load than you would trading traditional cargo with a smaller ship

I also enjoy it because it’s cool

[hollow sedge]

thanks that was exactly what i was looking for

i'll probably do some drug trading, but i'll def try normal trading today

[jovial matrix]

Good idea

[hollow sedge]

also nice pfp

[jovial matrix]

Thanks lol

[vestal ravine]

My method for SLAM stored in a Nomad at Crul5. 89K profit over 20 visits. Buy at the Private Property site they should fill the ship. Just treat the stored Nomad like an ATM machine. Haven't tried this with a bigger ship.

[desert crypt]

How do you change the salvage beam? Wide vs narrow

[little stratus]

!mining

[wary tusk]

Mining

• [Mining Basics](#976514975646482472 message) • [Ore Refinement](#976514975646482472 message) •

[little stratus]

@pine mortar

[ivory grotto]

Ayyy

I managed to land on new babagge with a level 5 crimestat to deliver some SLAM

And can i mine with a drake cutter?

[pine mortar]

Guys new player here, is the Prospector a good ship to upgrade to from my cutlass if I just want to solo mine

or have a friend along

I just want to be sure unless saving for a better ship would be more prudent

i would be getting roughly half the cost of the prospector with credit so 55$

[pine mortar]

yeap im going to click on that mining basics link lol

[terse vine]

I regret not having a cutlass black any more. Buy a prospector in game or rent one and see how you like it.

[pine mortar]

interesting, about how long are you looking at getting 155 dollars irl money to in game currency

the cutlass i was given is giving me about 50 dollars towards the trade in but i dont want to regret losing the cutlass either lol

[terse vine]

Spending ingame currency on a game is a far better option than using real life cash that could be spent on beer.

[pine mortar]

quite true i agree

ill get my feet wet first in game see how it goes

but i do love mining

prospector is 155 $

[terse vine]

The cutlass for me allowed me to do courier missions or some combat missions but I have since traded it up for the Constellation Taurus.

[pine mortar]

ohh sounds like a nice ship i need to look it up

[terse vine]

Hmmm, I have yet to find a use for it.

[pine mortar]

whats its role ?

[terse vine]

I guess I could look at trading.

[pine mortar]

im a total noob here

I see a few telling me getting the prospector alone without another ship for transport is kind of meh

yeah i see your ship is a freighter cargo type sounds like it has a ton of capacity

[terse vine]

It was intended to be a hauler for my prospector.

I did have a cutlass and a mole which is a terrible experience for a solo player

[pine mortar]

oh wow

i dont get it why didnt the constellation work out

[terse vine]

Also had the Andromeda too which is a beast.

lack of play time more than anything.

[pine mortar]

ah ok

mining looks fun well see what i can manage

[terse vine]

That's my current fleet. There's a few extra CIG loaners included, but not listed.

[pine mortar]

can i ask

whats the 3 6 month numbers represent

[terse vine]

insurance length for when it matters

[pine mortar]

Is it hard to get enough coin in game to re apply insurance ?

[terse vine]

Insurance isn't part of the game yet, so no one knows the answer to that question.

[pine mortar]

gotchya

well your certainly well invested when gaming time becomes available for you

im pretty much trying the game for the first time with an interest in mining

[terse vine]

I'm not entirely happy with my fleet choice, but then I guess I never will be.

Ahhh. Fair enough. Just keep in mind, the stuff we have now may be far removed to what we will have months or years down the line.

[pine mortar]

yeah i was mostly going to continue in wait mode but i saw the youtube

of someone exploring a lush forst biome

[terse vine]

Yeah that's how they get you.

[pine mortar]

does it matter where i start out on locations

[terse vine]

Sounds like you just missed out on the free fly event too

[pine mortar]

Its ok just going to fly the cutlass see how this differs from elite dangerous lol

[terse vine]

No, as you can travel to any other part of the solar system. It does of course take time, but the content is similar regardless, although the names may change. Not all equipment may be available in your immediate area either.

[pine mortar]

i can decide on the prospector in a few

[terse vine]

for the love of your sanity check your controls in free flight using arena commander

[pine mortar]

rger

New Babbage here I come /flex

[terse vine]

Enjoy getting lost in the transit system 😄

[pine mortar]

I think ill enjoy having mineral formations blow up in my face more

[terse vine]

You can fly my prospector if you want to.

I'll bring the constellation for comparision.

[vestal ravine]

Last night I was test loading the ROC into the Cutter. Drove straight in and got out, left the ramp open. Went searching on Aberdeen for Gems as I had loaded there. Four minutes later the back of my ship turns all red from some sort of damage and promptly blew up. This was not an attack. Should I have closed the ramp? Need to run this ship after wipe it is cheap to operate. Thanks in advance any input.

[woven dust]

Did your ramp clip the ground? Were your shields up?

[vestal ravine]

No, I was airborne scanning. Not sure about the shields setting...

[woven dust]

It could have been the roc bouncing around enough to damage the cutter. That kinda thing used to happen in my cutty

[vestal ravine]

I think that's what happened. Next time I close the ramp.

[woven dust]

Can you close the ramp?

[vestal ravine]

Yes, I did it last time out. It's scary, the ROC is all jumping around making awful noises but it stayed in. Will experiment more soon.

[north oyster]

The cargo grid for the Cutter isn't all the way across the ship's bay area, there is a walkway on the starboard side that doesn't hold cargo. That's probably why the ROC bounces because only half of it is on a grid. This is purely my speculation. You'd think the ship design team would've considered this in the production

MAX is still be the ROC escort going, imo. Worth getting when funds are there. Best 2.1M aUEC you can spend for multi-role ship (ROC escort, small trade, Quan hauling when you get a Prospector, etc)

Seems there is no getting in the PTU at this time, login is buggered

[limpid vessel]

why can i not mine quantanium?

changing modules aint working

when pressing ALT + 1

etc

[plush maple]

Is the issue that you can't mine or that you can't activate modules?

[limpid vessel]

that i cant activate modules idk if it doesent work though as it didnt work a few day's ago

[plush maple]

Not sure, it's not an issue I've had before

[limpid vessel]

like why dont it work

?

why cant i switch from modules

[real ore]

how do i do cargo?

[hollow sedge]

My prospector only lets me add one module? Is this a glitch of am I missing something?

[limpid vessel]

how long does it take to mine without a module?

does it take ages?

[ivory gust]

Modules have limited number of charges ( 5 ) before they vanish and need to be replaced

[ivory gust]

Depends on mass of the rock. Anything above 5.5k mass is practically not possible without modules. Below that it will take a while, several minutes

[north oyster]

what laser head do you have on it? The default Abor has only one slot, you want the Lancet and can hold 3 items

[hollow sedge]

I have the lancet on

[ivory gust]

Then you should be able to install three modules, though you'll only be able to use one active module at a time

[novel granite]

is quant still invisbile as cargo

[ivory gust]

Yes

[ivory gust]

Watching a stream from someone trying the Vulture...seems that while the salvage stuff sells for about as much as refined quant per SCU, it takes a lot longer to collect than quant does

[ivory gust]

If you are looking for a group, you want the looking for group channel

If you are looking for resources to learn mining such as YouTube videos, this is the place to ask (or search, because someone has probably already asked)

[earnest tide]

Gotcha

[analog echo]

I found a 7k mass, 43% quantanium rock, but I cant crack it on my own, can anybody help?

[plush maple]

Got a question for someone that knows more than me- with the addition of persistent entity streaming coming- should this fix rocks not being scannable in the belt or lyria etc?

maybe im just being overly optimistic thinking it might

[dreamy pine]

hey anyone got some spare cash. i really wanna test out prospector mining before wipe to see if its my thing.

[vestal ravine]

I went back out got the Roc in, closed the ramp when I found some gems landed but the Roc was all nearly sideways in the Cutter all jumping around no way I was going near it. So does not seem viable. Nomad or Cutty for me after the wipe.

[jovial matrix]

You can always rent a prospector if you wanna try it out

[gleaming mica]

I dont have a prospector, but i have a mule if you want to tag along and try one of the turrets

[rocky kernel]

To use the ROC with a cutter:

1. Never close the ramp, it will fly just fine with it openned.

2. Never go into quantum travel, the ramp closes automatically when quantum is on.

3. Mine near a facility that accept your gems at the selling terminal,
   That way you don't need quantum travel.

Most mining facilities on the planets & moons accepts the 3 gems.

Iv been mining a few days with the cutter and ROC, never needed to rent anything else to carry it around

[crystal sage]

Hi all. Relatively new player here so if there is a better thread for my question then please let me know! I currently have my avenger titan (which I love) and am really trying to find out what activity or game loop I should be doing to gain the most amount of income. It can be bounties, trade routes/commodity exchanges, transportation; anything really. I just want to start earning better income so I can get to other game loops such as Prospector mining. Thanks in advance!

[lime nova]

Bounties and bunkers are best in the titan.

[pliant matrix]

Never mine close to selling points. It's the best way to get targeted by a pirate and so lose your work.
Get out of atmo make 100-200km away and go down to start mining. You'll be safe

[rocky kernel]

Yeah that's true, then as far as you're willing to go. The Cutter has huge hydrogen fuel tanks anyway

[hollow sedge]

How's salvage compared to mining? Trying to decide what to do when 3.18 hits

[pliant matrix]

yup I'd like to know too since I got a vulture with hope it'll be a good gameplay xD

[hollow sedge]

How tf do I get the missiosn that take me to hurston security post 1

I want them so I can get artimex armour lol

[vestal ravine]

Thanks!! I will go back and try some more tests with the open ramp. This trouble was on Aberdeen.

[near void]

how to trade

[vestal ravine]

There are many routes you can put together independent of the ship's cargo hold size. I had a friend load up his Cutter with Gold but the profit was only $400 Aeuc. The bigger ship's require a large output of your cash up to half a million in some cases. So, what happens when pirates shoot you down? Anyway you can "sell" the trade items at both TDD's and at the mining stations. Look up Trade Tools internet site or others and go to the Group up channel and ask for trading help. If you have time during the day CST I can help you with a route. Good luck.

[near void]

whats the best things to buy

and sell

[vestal ravine]

The most expensive is Agricium with a 3.8 "dollar" range of profit. Lesser items have a smaller spread of profit such as 1.1 dollar. The drugs can have high value but do not sell like the normal trade items. Agricium and others only sell in limited amounts so you buy the lesser items at the trading console to backfill and fill your cargo hold. Then go sell.

[hollow sedge]

Highest value trade commodity is Laranite, although it is difficult to purchase in high amounts. @near void

[vestal ravine]

Thanks Solar for the notation!

Here's the latest buy/sell chart for Laranite: https://uexcorp.space/commodities:LARA

[wild coral]

hey guys, what ship should i aim to get early game for cargo?

[vestal ravine]

Freelancer Max is a good multi purpose ship.

[wild coral]

2.1m 💀

was hoping for a little bit more early game

[jovial matrix]

That’s the best you’re gonna get

Freelancer max is the smallest hauler that can make anywhere near a reasonable profit trading

You could potentially get a raft instead, but it’s only about 300k cheaper and isn’t nearly as versatile as the max

[wild coral]

what about deliveries?

[jovial matrix]

You can do those in any ship with physical space

[wild coral]

okay, thanks! i think im confused about cargo vs deliveries

[jovial matrix]

Ah maybe

[wild coral]

does cargo require vehicles? or is it similar to deliveries?

[jovial matrix]

Cargo trading just requires a ship

You go to a place, buy cargo from that place, haul it somewhere else, and then sell it

[wild coral]

ohhhhh i see

[bold nymph]

The Cutter can do cargo. Not a lot like the freelancer max but enough to ger you started.

[dreamy bridge]

only to give you a taste of what cargo runs could do. 4 SCU is going to give you tops around 1.5K or so. Doing cargo runs with a Cutter definitely not worth it if your aim is to make money.

[bold nymph]

True. But I think of it for a starter

[ivory grotto]

I want to asteroid mine for quantanium but i dont have a crew.Should i still go with the mole or should i use a prospector?

[jovial matrix]

Use a prospector

[ivory grotto]

Ok

Is there a way to upgrade the laser so it can have more power to destroy bigger asteroids?

[latent quarry]

lancet mining head

[teal ridge]

anyone know when the wipe is happening?

[ivory grotto]

Supposedly the 20th of january

[jovial matrix]

Sometime in January

[sonic laurel]

30k-ish

if you run vice

[dreamy pine]

anyone wanna prospector mine together

[pliant matrix]

For the same price of a cutter you can get an avenger titan or a 300i that have more cargo and versatility. They're also faster and better armed.
Cutter is way overpriced

[ivory gust]

Er...what?

Cutter is $45 ($40 wb currently)
Titan is $55
300i is $60

Cutter is the same price as a Pisces

[bitter ferry]

Yeah... Cutter is incredibly good value for the high standard of the ship and relative versatility it has.

Granted I still wouldn't recommend it for cargo, but it's still a solid starter.

[vestal ravine]

ALL NEW SPACERS: If the Cutter can haul a ROC, which it seems it can, this alone ups the overall value of the Cutter. Hadanite mining is reasonable profitable at 275 per gem. So if you have the Cutter use your skills to save for a ROC as an in game purchase.

[ivory gust]

Given that it only sort of fits and is super janky, I'd hesitate to recommend the cutter for that

[pliant matrix]

I meant in this range of price.
Adding 10 to get all that a titan can do is definitely worth it.
Imo I'd put cutter at the same value than Aurora and mustang.
Out of those 4scu cutter is a not a better ship than those two.

[ivory gust]

Cutter is a lot more capable than an Aurora or Mustang. Usable and complete interior, can carry vehicles.

In its price range (and not counting stuff that's 20% more expensive like you are), it's competing with the 100i and Pisces, and for many players the Cutter is a better choice than those

The big downside of the Cutter is that it isn't good at ship combat, so it's kind of the opposite of the Arrow "starter" in that way

[pliant matrix]

it can't fight like a mustang (and even an aurora tbh).
Slower max speed than aurora (which is important for deliveries for example).
Carry vehicles? you mean a ptv and janky roc?
Both Mustang and Aurora are capable of doing bounties and deliveries better.
If you want it's a good trade starter but definitely not competing with 50 bucks or more ships

(and 100 series are also way overpriced because it's luxury starter btw)

[ivory gust]

Cutter can cleanly carry STV or Nox

Mustang doesn't have a bed
Aurora doesn't have a real interior

[pliant matrix]

aurora have a bed and you can put boxes in there. quite a lot actually if you organise a little

what I meant is I don't see anything in cutter that justify the extra price next to Aurora and Mustang which both have their own qualities just like cutter

[ivory gust]

Sure...however it can't carry any cargo, nor can it carry vehicles. For bunker running, the ability to carry a vehicle in the back is useful so you can park outside turret range

For anything other than ship combat, the Cutter is objectively more capable than any of the other starters 100i or cheaper

Justify price compared to Aurora: Cargo and can carry vehicles
Justify price compared to Mustang: Has a bed, can carry vehicles

[jovial matrix]

Mustang can’t carry vehicles either

[pliant matrix]

Un-justify price compared to Mustang: less combat capable
Un-justify price compared to Aurora: Is slower and also less capable in combat (also it's uglier because drake)

[ivory gust]

Is the Pisces overpriced by your definition as well? What about the 100i?

[pliant matrix]

how much is pisces already?
For 100i I already said it is overpriced but it's because it's luxury (origin yk)

[ivory gust]

Because if you compare the Cutter to the Pisces at the same price, the Cutter looks pretty darn good

Pisces is $45 just like the cutter

[pliant matrix]

expedition or regular?

[ivory gust]

You literally cannot buy the regular one. Expedition.

[pliant matrix]

you remove the vehicle (lol golf cars imo) to add firepower so it's not very different than an aurora out of the more accessible interior

[ivory gust]

...and you also lose the bed and the rest of the "living" interior

[pliant matrix]

pisce doesn't have a bed?

[ivory gust]

No

[pliant matrix]

lol so yeah definitely overpriced as well

[ivory gust]

So it sounds to me like you just think everything is overpriced

[pliant matrix]

nope. your vehicle capability doesn't justify the extra cost since in the bargain you lose firepower and speed
In theory you increase price if it's giving you something more than the base price. For cutter I don't see what justify it

[ivory gust]

See but that's an opinion

[pliant matrix]

not saying it's a bad ship. just it's imo on the same lvl than Mustang and Aurora who also have they pro and cons

[ivory gust]

It's literally not on the same level as the Mustang and Aurora, as we've already been over. Just because you don't value the advantages it offers does not mean that they don't exist

[pliant matrix]

I do value the cutter advantages equally as Mustang and Aurora ones. You seems to see carrying a small vehicle and little cargo as more important than having firepower and speed which makes you think (and you can ofc. It's your opinion) that cutter is valued more than the other two

imo they've equals pros and cons and so I put them on the same line (my opinion ofc)

[ivory grotto]

I mean the cutter isnt that bad in combat

You can easily do the october rising mission for 73k

And it isnt bad for bounties either (in my opinion)

[latent quarry]

theres no way cutter can fit the roc

if ur gonna spend 40 bucks u might as well get the titan that outclasses it in everything

for 15 extra bucks

[rocky kernel]

Can confirm, Cutter fits a ROC no problemo.
Been mining last few days like that np

[dreamy bridge]

yes... clearly

source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/yyzkjc/no_the_roc_doesnt_fit_in_the_cutter_but_it_can/

[ivory gust]

Titan doesn't have a bathroom, and titan can't carry an STV

[pliant matrix]

Roc fit in cutter but is not really adapted for it.
Like when I put a merlin in MSR. It's not ideal but it kinda works

Also about titan it maybe can't take a golf car but it can take 8scu and is way faster and powerfull than cutter. Ideal for vice trading and bounties up to HRT (eventually VHRT)

(lmao bathroom? Really?)

[hollow sedge]

Is the Argo Mole worth purchasing on the pledge store?

planned on upgrading from a hornet because i like the more mundane money making loops in game

and would mining solo with it be worth?

[vestal ravine]

Josh, The Prospector is the better solo mining ship. I have a Mole but am still testing solo mining in it. A Mole with full crew is the big money maker. You can test my Mole solo if we can get a time set up.

[hollow sedge]

Only problem is I dont have friends ;)

plus the mole has a larger SCU so i figured that you could be out in space for longer mining

[vestal ravine]

The Quant mineral has a hard timer once you begin the extraction process. For friends go to the find players section.

[hollow sedge]

ah alr then cheers

[hollow sedge]

and one more question

would a prospector be a good upgrade from a hornet

seeing as though its a solo mining ship

[vestal ravine]

Yes of course you could always melt it if you don't like mining.

I have a Prospector also.

[hollow sedge]

oh coolo

wait by melt wdym

[vestal ravine]

If you pay cash for new ships you can upgrade the chassis to a new ship. Ccu

[hollow sedge]

yea so ship upgrade yea

[vestal ravine]

But a solid month of mining you could buy all sorts of stuff.

[hollow sedge]

sounds pretty good

what do you reckon is the total payout youd get each trip?

provided you have a Full cargo bay

[vestal ravine]

No set figure as during extraction other cheaper minerals can get mixed in the load.

[hollow sedge]

range?

[vestal ravine]

Planetside looks for Q rocks 25% or better.

I'll let others chime in on that. Trading is my main game play.

[hollow sedge]

speaking of which

its either i go for the freelancer MAX or the prospector

any reccomendations?

[vestal ravine]

The Prossy profits can buy you the Max then you can trade or mine at will. You can always team as a laser operator on the Mole and make a good share.

I know a mining junkie said he made 70 million in 30 days.

[hollow sedge]

damn

[hollow sedge]

so the prospector would be the way to go?

i was looking at some mining gameplay and saw you had to wait for refinery timers

is the whole loop mining for one day then selling it all the next?

[vestal ravine]

20 hours on average.

[hollow sedge]

damn

[vestal ravine]

Then you need a transport ship.

[hollow sedge]

transport ship???

[hollow sedge]

so thats on average 2.3 mill per day

thats pretty good

[vestal ravine]

It's top tier profits. The refined material has to be taken to a TDD terminal by you as the owner of the ship.

Unrefined you can sell directly

[hollow sedge]

less profitable tho

[hollow sedge]

was he using a mole with a team????

[vestal ravine]

I suppose so.

[hollow sedge]

hows mining on the prospector gone for you?

[vestal ravine]

Not to well I don't like the timer thing on Quant. I'm a trader more relaxing.

[hollow sedge]

fair enough

how much did you make on your first few runs?

[vestal ravine]

Non Quant somewhere 20 to 40 k. I also ROC mine which is way cooler.

[hollow sedge]

whats mining with the ROC like?

[vestal ravine]

Very nice using the laser and scoping up $275.00 each Hadanite gems.

[hollow sedge]

damn nice

[hollow sedge]

what do you reckon is the biggest money maker mining wise?

[vestal ravine]

Quant

[hollow sedge]

alrighty then i might aswell take the prospector then

cheers for answering my questions

[vestal ravine]

I can play in about 2 hours if interested.

[hollow sedge]

sure why not

see if i cant upgrade my ship rn

[vestal ravine]

What's you game name?

[hollow sedge]

Same as my Discord

@vestal ravine

[vestal ravine]

Ok mine either wildbill999 or FredMaximus at 11 am cst will invite you

[hollow sedge]

alr

[prisma scarab]

Im impartial to the mole solo. I have fun with that one lol makes me good change.

[north oyster]

PTU is pretty rough, I've yet to do a successful mining run. VMA broke, I can't equip the Lancet (yet)

[white pawn]

Larinite or Slam? whats the most bang for your time?

[mild shard]

neither

Run astatine on MT to NB commons lol

c2 will bank about 100-150k per run

in less than 10minutes if you are a pro flyer. For the rest it'll be about 15-30mins per round trip

[white pawn]

My cat days are long gone after the last wipe lol Im working from a cutty black now : /

[mild shard]

Ya, I wish the cat was a bit faster to maneuver lol

[white pawn]

Trading just isnt real profitable from a cutty lol.. i do what i can tho lol

[mild shard]

Ya, I need to run to orison to check the c2 price again, I don't remember paying almost 5mil for it lol

I do remember it being the same price as the msr there

[white pawn]

Hoping to Upgrade from prospector to MSR next time its available

[ivory gust]

It is, both are 4.9M

[mild shard]

ok

[pliant matrix]

anyone tried salvage on ptu and can give their feeling about it?

[rocky kernel]

https://youtu.be/hZxqB3Cv_NU

[torn gazelle]

where can I sell my quant once i have it refined?

[ivory gust]

TDD at any of the major cities

[white pawn]

Prospector for mining or Connie T for trading.. Which do you think will make more $/hr

[pliant matrix]

it's in PTU... ofc there will be bugs and issues at start. Idk if you knew mining some years ago but it was way more hell (the whole game was hell tho) than actual salvage state

On other videos it seems to works fine and a full Vulture can be worth around 100k so it's a decent money maker atm

Also... who go mine without a suit like the guy did? xD

[ivory gust]

Definitely prospector for mining

[north oyster]

Like Chris said, mining is your best bet to earn good coin. Trade only works with the largest ships (C2, CAT, etc)

They did increase the amount of material scooped by the salvage beams, it was pretty darn slow prior

[jovial matrix]

Definitely not slam, laranite would be the best traditional commodity to trade

If you wanna drug run then buy etam/neon. Slam and widow well for more, but are bought in minuscule amounts at a time, so it’ll take you ages just to sell 10SCU. Neon and etam are bought in bigger quantities at a time, so if you stick to buying 10SCU of each, then you shouldn’t have a problem selling them

[white pawn]

Thanks for the info guys

[high wren]

havent mined in forever, what was the refining method of choice for most, i forget

i went dinyx but i think i use to go ferron when rocks actually scanned

[ivory gust]

Dinyx is the longest time, but lowest cost and and highest yield
Ferron gives the same yield, but 2x the cost for 1/3rd the time

[reef brook]

anyone know if scrap is still bugged>

*?

[high wren]

how do i activate brandtÉ

[white bolt]

Anyone know where I can sell raw ore on crusader? Been walking around this place for a hour

[ivory gust]

Nowhere. Raw ore can only be sold at the refinery deck on refinery stations

[viral heath]

What's the optimal ping angle for quant in Aaron halo?

[dapper merlin]

i need help

iiiim usiiing the roc but the arm wont move

[hollow sedge]

Im wanting to upgrade my current Ship to the Taurus because I like cargo Hauling, but im not too sure whether there might be more ships made available to upgrade to in the pledge store, any suggestions?

[viral heath]

you might have damaged it..

[foggy spear]

Freelancer max is worth a look, but I prefer taurus over that. To make legit money trading your looking a catapillar or c2 and running titanium or astatine. Msr is a cool quant runner, and Corsair / andromeda are good all around ships. Another thing to look into is trading neon and e Tam in small quantities. It is very profitable and can be done in a smaller ship like the cutty black. If you do I suggest only buying 10 scu of each.

[hollow sedge]

Why only trade neon in small quantities?

[jovial matrix]

because its only bought in small quantities

max you can sell is 20SCU at a time i believe

[foggy spear]

True, if youbget a good tick. If not you're hanging around for the next server tick to sell off the remaining.

[jovial matrix]

yup

[foggy spear]

The profit margin is excellent on those two products and makes it worth while though.

[jovial matrix]

indeed

[viral heath]

running drugs eh

[hollow sedge]

oh

bruh Had no idea they were drugs 💀

[viral heath]

Question in the surge and stampede modules... Having extras in the ship inv means it will use those in the ship in right?

[marble crater]

can't reload mining modules from the ship inventory unfortunately. has to be stored at a hangar and done through the Vehicle Loadout Manager

[viral heath]

So it's a one shot thing?

[marble crater]

you get 5 uses per module

[viral heath]

Ah

K

Mainly for those big rocks on lyria

Lol

[marble crater]

yah they're needed on Lyria for sure

one thing that's annoying is if you have a module with 1 charge left, it's really hard to swap out to a fresh module. best to just just fire them all off before you return

they should add a "Discard Module" button or something similar

[high wren]

is there a spreadsheet or similar that indicates where all the different mining gadgets and modules are sold? I'm looking for waveform but its not at refinery at wide forest station.

scratch that, found it

[north oyster]

FYI new CRAFTING

Savrals-CIG:
You now will be able to create a Multitool, Tractor beam attachment, Salvage repair attachment and the salvage repair can from the Filler Station's crafting tab.
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/4/thread/ptu-feedback-salvage-hull-scraping/5631100

I wonder if Salvage and Crafting will get its own group

[misty coyote]

This is big.... I know its temporary...

These machines could make mining worth doing..

No more aiming for quant, when the 3d printer you have in your Carrack requires titanium, Gold, copper and quartz to make mining laser heads using the 4 day blueprint rights you rented.....

I took a big dose of hopium.... Excuse me

[north oyster]

This would be awesome. I don't mind the idea of Quantainium getting dethroned

Currently mining in the PTU is only with default laser

VMA is hosed

Salvage seems to be the only thing we're able to do

[ivory gust]

!itemfinder

[wary tusk]

Universal Item Finder

Use the website to search for any item (and where to buy them) in-game.

[misty coyote]

Salte Mike spoke a truth I now understand...

I want to be useful....

I want to supply my mates with items that I made, not just bought for them, using materials I bought from another.... Or mined myself.....

[dreamy barn]

Hey I just started mining with a prospector any have any tips for newbie any spots or asteroid clusters I should go to

[high wren]

use lancet 1 mining head, grab some brandt modules, maybe a boremax gadget. head to lyria and mine away. wide forest station near arcorp has the refinery for the items you need

[fervent obsidian]

For mining in a prospector, can you put more than one in the module slots? Do they stack?

[dreamy barn]

Ok thanks

[ivory gust]

Most mining lasers have multiple module slots; you can have two of the same module but you can only have one active module running at a time.

The useful exception is the Surge, where you can use two effectively since it's an instant effect.

[pastel flame]

I just came into this chat wondering if ppl had been talking about this

Vulture honestly has the vibe of mining pre-Q meta

[viral heath]

what type of asteroids should i be looking at the aaron halo? p or q?

[white pawn]

If you had to pick... C2 or Cat?

[pastel flame]

C2

[jovial matrix]

Yeah C2

[north oyster]

how familiar with the mining process are you? If starting out you will want to learn about active angle ping and also the methods of finding the ore. Also want to be sure you have the correct load out too

[north oyster]

Tier Zero of salvage is pretty much mining on ships. The process is a little more labor intensive with having to move the SCU boxes, etc. But at this time the potential is there. They've increased the gathering rate so that it doesn't take so long to fill like it has been taking.

[viral heath]

Pretty on with roc and hand mining..Just wanted to get myself familiarized with the prospy for post wipe.. lancet, surge, stanpede

[north oyster]

@viral heath The most important thing will be knowing this if you are mining in the Halo. That is where I mine about 100% of the time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz8TOCUa0Ms

[pastel flame]

I find it pretty easy, and the fact that the bigger ships' hulls actually give some nice scrap makes it symbiotic with bounty hunters

Nothing rumbling in your cargo hold about to explode 14 min after you start chilling

[viral heath]

This is the scan first at 179 then scan 12km rocks with 2 deg?

[faint lance]

is there any things to cargo haul on calliope

[viral heath]

yep so which band for aaron halo mining? i mean conflicting messages being sent here.. band 5-7 or band 1-2. 9-10

[vast wasp]

I'm thinking of getting a C2 but in really struggling with the trading I can never get my cargo full with Laranite is there something I could get that would fill my scu and make profit? So far my trading going so poorly

[vast wasp]

There are trading consoles at the Rayari research outposts on Calliope I believe not sure what they sell but hopefully something

[white pawn]

I guess the larinite runs from bezdek days are dead now huh...

[cerulean lichen]

Really looking forward to 3.18. Haven’t done the ptu but the things for trading sound so nice.

[vast wasp]

I can only get about 3 scu of laranite from Bezdek these days 😂

[vestal ravine]

I've been buying the top tier limited quantity items then backfilling with Gold, Astatine and Chloride. Using a C2.

[vestal ravine]

You can definitely get some trades going on the MT moons and a C2 whereby you can sell some on the moons. Here's the basic trades for Calliope and Clio. Both involve Meds , Chlorine and Astatine. On Clio buy Meds and Chlorine at Mc Grath then go to Cantwell same moon and sell both. For Calliope it starts at SMC A-6 and ends at Anvik. (If you want to grab the Astatine you can buy/sell also.)

[pastel flame]

It's actually kind of cool, and I thought I'd dislike dealing with the physicalized cargo. There's still some moments where you hold your breath as a box "settles" in a set location but beneath the jitters it's relatively functional.

[latent quarry]

Astatine with the C2 of microtech is very good

unfortunately the more I talk about it the less likely it is to find a full load for my C@

c2

[white pawn]

With a C2 what kind of profits are you seeing on that run?

[vestal ravine]

We can set something up after Christmas if you want. You man the turret we split profits. I'll finance it.

Any cargo type ship can make a profit.

[white pawn]

Sounds like a deal to me.

[cerulean lichen]

That’s cool. I’m won’t be able to test it out on the ptu but I hope once it’s live to play around with it

[random field]

what modules should i put on my prospector's lancet

[marble crater]

but beneath the jitters it's relatively functional best SC review I've ever read

[white pawn]

Brandt and Stampede

also depends on where your mining..

are you mining quant at Aarons halo or Lira?

[pastel flame]

Hah.... when it's jittery and not functional that's when you better start paddling away...

[random field]

aarons halo

another question

how do i get rid of inert materials

and only take back quantanium

[north oyster]

You don't, that's why you want to crack high percentage rocks so that you can scoop only 100% material

There is a module that will filter a little but of inert, but not worth it

[random field]

gotcha

[white pawn]

If you want big rocks head to Lira. Some 200k Rocks hang out around there

[spring prism]

PIXEL MEASUREMENTS TO THE RESCUE. The ROC Can fit with an inch or so to spare height-wise.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/92000849236066304/1056430212029632583/A1-ROCRef.jpg

Make note of the salvage icon, it's different than mining rocks. It also won't appear as a box first unlike mining rocks:

[dapper merlin]

lf good profit cargo route. im not talking one commodity to one sell point

[ivory gust]

Doesn't exist yet

[teal ridge]

Merry Christmas to all

[mint elbow]

has roc mining been improved at all lately?

is it worth buying 2 rocs to put in my corsair

[vestal ravine]

Yeaaa Merry Christmas for sure! Now bring on 3.18 and more fun.

[north oyster]

In 3.18 there is a Move All button now. So you can move all the gems over from the ROC to the ship

[jovial matrix]

That is going to be so nice

For caving, ROC mining, looting in general

[north oyster]

It's pretty nice, but at the moment, inventory is a little challenged in the PTU. Once that's straightened out, it should be rock solid

[pastel flame]

By a little challenged he means unservicable XD

Not entirely true, I can usually manage to get food and water into my hands, but if you put on armor it's gg

[ivory token]

why is storing unavailable?

[spring prism]

ROC-Solid.

[hollow sedge]

i wish the icon look different...it kind of looks like a rock in pieces...

but cool the icon is different at least

[spring prism]

It also has no distance indicator (currently.) Just the icon.

[hollow sedge]

yeah i imagine they'll eventually add that and change the icon...the not distance is annoying. i had one that was way further than i thought it would be

overall though I enjoy salvage gameplay loop

[spring prism]

As much as I'd like it to become a "gear" icon, they might use that for repair in the future.

A Wrench icon for items that need repair while on a ship. But a gear icon for ships that need repair. Would be intuitive.

[hollow sedge]

the only complaint i think i have about the vulture...is getting up and physically moving the boxes is strange. you dont have to do that in a prospector for mining. Why wouldn't the vulture have an automated belt system or something that stacks the boxes. Not a huge deal breaker but I do think 900 years in the future that the ship like this would have an automated feature for staking boxes and not require a person to do it.

[hollow sedge]

yeah that would be much better

totally agree on the icons

[spring prism]

An automated tractor beam grid on the ceiling that acts similar to a "Claw Machine" would be neat for the vulture. But I think it would be too much to ask of the game's engine currently.

[vestal ravine]

Can these new cargo boxes be destroyed in any way? Will the Tractor Beam be allowed to be used in the armistice zones? Is the Tractor Beam the only way to move them? (I do not have the test universe loaded up...) Thanks!!

[spring prism]

I don't see it happening until post-release at the earliest

[spring prism]

The tractor beam used to be allowed in armistice zones, but it was disabled due to people killing each-other too much. It will come back in the future, they have to change how it works.

[vestal ravine]

Okay thanks for the info...!!

[hollow sedge]

like the box stacking in the reclaimer will be very tedious...i can understand the reclaimer now having it...kind of like a salvage cargo van

but the reclaimer should at least have an automated box staking feature or something

[spring prism]

The reclaimer would have to have its salvage decks completely redone if they wanted to add that "Tractor Beam" Grid I suggested

IE: the second floor/observation area would be removed, and the filler station would be put down a level

remove all the catwalks, so the tractor beam grid would have full Line of Sight with the cargo grid

[hollow sedge]

maybe they'll eventually do that because the reclaimer would 100% have an automated feature...or at least a "warehouse bot" or something to stack crates.

we have more automated stuff now....I just highly doubt things would be less automated so far into the future. I know the lore doesn't like AI...but they still have like dumb worker bots doing stuff like cargo...you can see the automated cargo bots in the hangars on planets

[spring prism]

To eb fair, the aegis internals have to be redone anyway to be more uniform and have consistent styles between ships

The reclaimer feels too much like drake than it does aegis

[hollow sedge]

yeah it does

[pastel flame]

If you weren't going back to move the boxes every few fills, it would just be to tesselate the flux capacitors or some other technobabble. I like that you have to get out of your seat the odd time as a solo ship pilot. Used to like it in the prospector when you'd find the really nice FPS nodes on rocks that were worth stopping for.

Broken record here, but Vulture gameplay feels a lot like pre-Quantanium meta mining did

[misty coyote]

How did people do violence with tractor beams?

[ivory gust]

Why would you buy 2?

[misty coyote]

I like the lack of automation.... It adds flavour to things... Not just mining in a different coat.

[mint elbow]

To be able to stay out for longer without needing to go back go repair the roc

Can just use up 2 rocs per trip

[ivory gust]

You're going to want to go back regularly to sell anyway

[north oyster]

I see salvage as a nice change of pace to go do once in a while. I plan to stick with mining and just salvage occasionally

[stray wolf]

Hey so everyone always reccomend the Lancet mining laser but I ALWAYS find rocks that are too big to mine. (Even with the surge modules)

Is the Impact I laser any good? Looks like it has a LOT more power

[north oyster]

The Issue isn't power but stability

[stray wolf]

So it would be a lot harder to control it with the Impact one?

[north oyster]

If it was about power, then the Helix would return to rule and be the meta

Yes, Quantanium is all over the board when trying up mine

The idea that the weakest support laser beats out the most powerful Helix is a mystery of SC

I think all this will change, no, actually I'm certain it'll change again

[stray wolf]

I’ve just equipped the lancet

[lilac jackal]

can anybody tell me the recommended percentation of quantanium that I should mine

[north oyster]

Any rock over 25%

[lilac jackal]

ok thanks

[north oyster]

But rocks at 30+ are preferred

[lilac jackal]

ok

[north oyster]

If you're trying for a unicorn, then over 40%

[lilac jackal]

wdym trying for a unicorn

[ivory gust]

There is nothing that is too large to mine with a Lancet with surge and stampede modules.

[ivory gust]

Depends on mass. 20% at 7k mass is great. 20% at 3k mass is not useful.

At 5k mass, 1% = 1 SCU. In a Prospector, you want to fill as much of your 32 SCU hold with quant as possible

[lilac jackal]

thanks

[sleek torrent]

Hello guys. Back again with my ultimate issue. I still can’t understand why my mining lasers work, manned turrets work, but my remote turrets won’t work. I can shoot as always, but they won’t move. Which means I can’t use my reclaimer. Tried all the keybinds. Gimbaled, G, Y, shift. Nothing works. When I move my mouse the cursor moves. I use to have this issue with mining lasers and manned turrets and I was able to get them working by messing with the keybinds. But the controls should be no different for the remote turrets. Even went back to default keybinds and still I have the same issue. So frustrating

[stray wolf]

How?? I’ve tried to mine a 6k rock and even with 100% power + surge module, the bar only goes down

[ivory gust]

Surge once. Wait for the power level to go down to where the second surge will take you exactly into the optimal range. Surge again. Then use stampede to finish it off.

[stray wolf]

Ohhhh imma try that thank you

These YTers be making 20 min long videos to explain it and you just explained it in 2 sentences 😂

[jovial matrix]

chris is just good like that

[mint elbow]

Do mining outposts pay the same price for roc mining gems as stations do?

[jovial matrix]

yup, the price is the same everywhere'

[sinful tundra]

What is the better starter ship after the wipe: freelancer max or prospector? Going to upgrade from the nomad

[mint elbow]

god the extraction beam on the roc is so bad

its not picking anything up

[vestal ravine]

I will be saving up for the Prospector first as I have cash bought trading ships but no Mole or Prossy. You need both as you will need to transport refined ores to the TDD to sell.

[vestal ravine]

Could be a bad server. Also the extraction beam has a limited distance to pick up you may have to drive forwards. The ROC DS has a longer range pickup and holds more material so it's very useful for a 2 man team.

[mint elbow]

im solo rn

and yea all eu servers are fucked

[vestal ravine]

Any sign of things not working right get to the mining station to sell or start off loading one by one to your backpack or ship INV...

[sinful tundra]

So for that 150 price point, the Max is the best bet?

[mint elbow]

what building am i looking for to sell my hadonite at a mining outpost?

[sinful tundra]

A trade terminal (usually in the admin building)

[pastel flame]

Keep in mind you can rent a freelancer to transport goods for a mere 34k and it will be yours for a while - a prospector has to be bought so it can be outfitted properly.

[mint elbow]

i cant find a admin building where i am

but aparntly where i am buys them

about to just give upp all this work and go to bed this is frustrating

okay i found it it was in the storage building

[sinful tundra]

Yeah it’s why I am thinking of getting the prospector as a starting point for each wipe.

[north oyster]

Pure 32 SCU of Quantainium load in a Prospector

[vestal ravine]

The Prospector is $155.00 us dollars I would start with that and rent the transport ships for now. Once you earn enough credits buy a transport ship like a C2. Or, at that point if mining is not your thing trade out the value of the Prossy for another ship.

[valid gyro]

hello, i just bought a taurus and a prospector, whats the best way to make some UEC with these ships?

[ivory gust]

Mine with prospector, refine at refinery station, haul refined stuff with taurus to sell

Note that there will be a wipe early in January so doing a ton of grinding for money doesn't make sense currently

[valid gyro]

oh dang, alright, thank you though :)

[supple birch]

I just bought the same ships today. As Chris suggested take prospector, mine , refine, load all on the taurus and go sell. Of course you aren't tied to this game loop, if you are sick of mining you can pickup the taurus and trade, do bounties, bunker missions, deliveries... More or less you can do anything. But yeah, probably if you care about aUEC/hour is hard to beat quant mining. Don't push yourself too hard on grinding anyway, wipe will come during next month so don't burn yourself on mining just now... Use this time to get used in flying the ships and the mining process so you will be ready to make money when wipe will come.

[misty coyote]

Large dose of Christmas hopium based noodlage....

Persistent hangers are the gateway to crafting.....No need to buy actual 3d printers if the terminal is hooked straight into a space station. Do you need the rights to the blueprints? Yes. Rent them.
Can you load up the cargo grid with the raw materials to make that PTV or SMG.... We can now. Press go.... Wait for X amount of time, or expedite for more money....

Usage of these crafted items then becomes a thing. The PTV for example.... 1 use? Cheaper to just buy one for 5k? Yeah....

Oooh... Whilst I'm wish mongering... Pay more materials for a faster top speed? Makes one use much more viable

Sent to CIG... Expect next patch...... You're welcome

Addendum..... Why even wait for hangers? Open up factory locations.... A Bhering plant..... You can even have AI guided tours around the factory.... I'd pay to see that.... I'd also bring materials to have guns made in bulk. Ready for pyro

Now I'm disappointed that the Greycat plant tour isn't a thing.... I'd love so see the STV and PTV getting assembled...

[mental warren]

Looking to get into the game wondering if anyone knows a mining ship I could start off with?

[pliant matrix]

mining ships aren't really for start. the closest to a start as a miner is to get a roc vehicle with a nomad or cutlass to carry it (some say cutter can carry it but it's not really made for it)

[mental warren]

Whats a good starter ship to get into industrial type stuff?

[pliant matrix]

if you think about buying ingame you better rent a cutlass 40k/day and roc is iirc 7k/day

mining is the industrial branch atm

you can do trading with any ship that has a cargo space (cutter is the cargo starter) but you wont make much profit until you get the bigger ships

[mental warren]

allrighty, thank you

[sage summit]

How does commodities refresh works at selling points? Like, if there is zero of wanted product - can I just wait there? And how long do I need to wait? Tradein.space and and sc-trade.tools show different refresh rates for the same place.

[remote sonnet]

😩

6023 @ 48.63%

[ivory gust]

Why sad face? Easy to break with a surge/stampede and nearly enough there for two full Prospectors

[remote sonnet]

The best part is I'm not in a Prospector in this image

I'll give you a hint

Look at my name

[ivory gust]

Oh I see

Should be able to sell the location to a miner for something

[north oyster]

Agreed, that's a good find. You could pull about 50K aUEC finders fee for that one

[misty coyote]

Needs to be an official thing......

I'd just scout planets to earn a bit of bank

[pastel flame]

Several big mining orgs pay people to be scouts for them already

350R is not a bad ship for that

Much of the time it's better to get cut in on the haul!

[cunning walrus]

I have a bunch of Dolivine, but can’t figure out how to sell it. Can someone help?

[jovial matrix]

Head to either a mining outpost or a space station. If you go to a mining outpost, you’re gonna look for a building that has a sign saying “storage above it. In there is a trade terminal where you can sell your gems. If you go to a station, you need to find the transit elevators (shouldn’t be too difficult, stations are pretty small), and take that elevator to the galleria. Once you’re there, you’re looking for an orange wall that says “admin office” on it. Go in there and there will be another trade terminal where you can sell your gems

[warped stone]

DO YOU LOOSE YOUR SUB-ITEM COMPONENTS WHEN YOUR PROSPECTOR BLOWS UP?

[ivory gust]

yes and why are you yelling

[sick tusk]

How does selling salvage work like what is it worth

[limpid sundial]

why can't my mole crew see the charge level on the rocks we're trying to mine? we're in a party and everything. what am I missing here? first time trying to mine with a crew, it's on my mole.

we're literally sitting here staring at three big ol' good sized, good quantity quant rocks and now we're stuck because no one has the damn charge level but me

and my own charge level disappeared randomly while trying to mine

this is absolute shit wtf

[ivory token]

anyone wanna mine together?

[misty coyote]

I can juggle, with some extra spends, a ccu to a reclaimer... But it would be my only ship....

Me wanty, but is this just a bad idea?

Melt Vulture and Taurus... Upgrade to a Galaxy and "Find" galaxy Reclaimer ccu

[pliant matrix]

well you'll just farm money with reclaimer. don't know if you're solo or not but it could be a pain. that big ship without a crew

[misty coyote]

It's doable solo.... Not ideal but it can work

I have a few buddies that could help...

Might be the Vulture is all I need... But got an idea worm about owning the big floating horror movie setting

[pliant matrix]

imo reclaimer is a lot of wasted time solo but like people use mole solo and enjoy it I guess it's up to you

[misty coyote]

That's a valid point.... Though the distance between pilot seat and scraper beams is very short... So Reclaimer solo isn't too bad.....

Need it ditch the whole notion somehow... Use what I have

And them make mining more than just clicking up creds.

It was a big thing adding the multi tool creation....

Allowing players to create things opens up a load of new uses for materials most of us ignore. Like gold.... Who cares right? But it's an amazing conductor... Usable in many different electronic components that make up lasers.... And Dolvine... The lense used in Las repeaters....

[sweet birch]

i wonder how extensive crafting will end up being like all the way from the multitool =>->->shipbuilding

could really open up more professions liek miners going after the lower ores like copper and alum

[median prairie]

Omg do I really have to study all those refining process methods?

[misty coyote]

Only way ship building can work is if you get 1 use ships, but with mjnior buffs

[sweet birch]

btw when im mining do i need to move the laser around and find a sweet spot?

[prime pine]

Finding the sweet spot gives you the most available energy into the rock.

[latent quarry]

as long as it says optimal you should be fine

[ivory gust]

No, the only two that matter are Dinyx solventation and Ferron exchange

[median prairie]

Ok, why?

[ivory gust]

Both have the highest possible yield. Dinyx is the slowest and least expensive, Ferron is 3x faster for 2x cost

[median prairie]

Ok thanks

[glacial patio]

Anyone know if salvage is as profitable as quant mining?

[ivory gust]

Easier but less profitable

[glacial patio]

A lot less?

[ivory gust]

50-75% as much per time spent, based on current numbers on the PTU

[glacial patio]

Thanks boss

[sleek spire]

anyone wanna give me some tips on cargoing

[opal yoke]

So, is there any ship we know of that can currently be used as a mothership for the Vulture?
Since I dont think it fits into any ships "ship hangar"
Maybe Carrack Rover bay or 890 Cargo at best?
33m length sounds pretty huge

[thick portal]

Like box missions?

[sleek spire]

nah like trading

i have a constellation taurus

[thick portal]

I know there’s a website that helps with how to make a profit on trading

[ivory gust]

You can maneuver it into the 890 hangar, there have been a couple posts on the reddit from people doing it. Definitely can't fit in Carrack

[sage summit]

Try this website sc-trade.tools

Be mindful of refresh time

I've tried top profitable routes - figures are right

[thick portal]

^

Helps a lot if you are lost

[pliant matrix]

is it worth doing vice trading with 135c and it's 6scu?
I mean how much average profit does it makes?

I'm afraid 315p 14scu is too much and it'll takes age to sell

[faint phoenix]

Hello, who can help me to find the best route ? I have a Constellation Taurus and 400 000 aUEC. Thanks !

[vestal ravine]

Ok the Mole is airborne!

Need more players on a Mole mission

Sorry for the delay getting organized and ship transfers

[north oyster]

SC trade tools will show you the margin. I'd go with testing 5 SCU first. I think that's the buy up rate

[pliant matrix]

I made a test with Titan and only been able to get 3scu of SLAM...

[north oyster]

Good move, seen some who buy a whole Connie full and then can't sell it

[pliant matrix]

sold it fast but just couldn't fill half a titan so not worth the journey

[misty coyote]

Is there a point in doing 5 scu trading?

I'd love to do these high value, high payout low quantity trades....

[sage summit]

Have you tried sc-trade.tools/trade-routes ?

[vestal ravine]

The Private Property site will sell me a full Nomad. Then I park it at cru l5 and use it like an ATM.

[median prairie]

Is there a rentable ship that fits a roc and is cheaper than the cutlass?

[vestal ravine]

Check into a Nomad or team up post wipe to earn money with the Roc.

[pliant ferry]

hello i just got a mole but i'm not sure where to get a surge module for my laser

[vestal ravine]

Slayer, look up Cornerstone website I think they list where to buy everything.

[ivory gust]

No, Cutlass is the cheapest rentable ship that carries a ROC

[worldly frigate]

hey so

i got myself a C2 hercules. what cargo is best to run and sell?

[vestal ravine]

It depends in part on how much investment funds you have. Let us know that.

[worldly frigate]

i have close to a mil

[vestal ravine]

OK that's good for sure. Are you going to be around tomorrow morning?

[worldly frigate]

nope

i got work

[vestal ravine]

the evening?

[worldly frigate]

unkown

can you just tell me what to do over text?

[vestal ravine]

lets start a DM?

[worldly frigate]

got it! sent a messgae

[sudden stratus]

Gonna be stuck in port olisar for a while selling med supplies lol

[jovial matrix]

Go lorville o hurston and use the TDD (trade and development division) there. Stations buy very low amounts of commodities at a time, but cities will buy much larger quantities at a time

[sudden stratus]

why can't i buy the laranite

[viral heath]

store ran out of supply

pretty typical since supply is across all servers

whats the biggest rock one can mine on lyria with surge and stampede?

[median prairie]

thanks

[kindred gust]

Whats a Easy Mission for beginners, to get used to the gameplay etc?

[ivory gust]

With 2x surge and stampede you can mine anything

[woeful moss]

bunkers? or even box delivery

sometimes theres an investigate missions

thats easy too

not the cave one the "Looking for PI" one in the privat tab

So, depends on what kind of gameplay you want to do

you can also join somebodies mining run or when 3.18 hits live a salvage run on a reclaimer crew

[kindred gust]

Ok thanks I will take a Look at These 👍

[woeful moss]

np and be sure to check the #looking-for-session channel

some ppl specifically looking to play with newcomers and teach the ropes there

[kindred gust]

Great, Thanks a lot

[gilded bluff]

Good day gentlemen! Been a while but nice to see everyone here again

I see @north oyster still going strong here hehe

Can someone give me a quick state of mining right now?

[vestal ravine]

My thoughts: Aaron Belt working fine with the ping angle and working around the duds, Quant on Moons roughly the same but Mining Gadgets introduced ROC mining still viable see locales where most prevalent. But in 2 weeks or so bigger changes coming post major update. Salvage in the Reclaimer and Vulture, soft death of ships, better inventory transfers for the Gems for instance. Get ready.

[north oyster]

Howdy Howdy ... Mining is still pretty solid in the current build 3.17.4 however there are tricks that are needed to know like Active Angle Ping etc to make the runs successful. Lancet is still meta, Quantainium is still king and the refinery is the path to wealth.

BUT with the complete wipe and the roll out of 3.18, things are up in the air on how that will all move over to the new patch.

I don't see 3.18 going LIVE before February, but that's just me

[north oyster]

Laranite has been dead as a commodity for two years. Only it's ghost lives on. The supply & demand is now shared globally, so that destroyed the quantity available.

[gilded bluff]

thanks a lot guys!

[jagged cedar]

Favorite location to mine quantainium?

[misty coyote]

Aaron Halo

[north oyster]

Like SirMattius said, I enjoy mining in the Halo. Quick turns to the refinery at CRU-L1. You run about 11.5M Km towards ARC-L3. No marauder problems

[misty coyote]

If you're gonna mine... It's got to be the Halo....

Just you and the vastness..... And rocks...

[reef smelt]

Is the Argo Mole good?

[maiden steppe]

It's free

[misty coyote]

Good for what?.... It has no QT drive..... Unless you're transporting stuff from capital ships.....not really...

[reef smelt]

Why doesn’t the mole have qt?

[pallid temple]

The MOLE does have a QT drive

[reef smelt]

Oh

So should I get it?

[pallid temple]

Probably yeah

[reef smelt]

Ok thanks

[misty coyote]

Sorry..... I saw a picture of the Argo Cargo and it stuck.....

The Mole is a multi crew mining ship

[maiden steppe]

https://starcitizen.tools/Category:MPUV_series

No QD

[misty coyote]

It's a pain solo,l

[maiden steppe]

You said mole. Ignore me.

[misty coyote]

It's my fault... I'm sure is saw a picture of the Cargo...

I didn't even read the text....

[maiden steppe]

Nah I saw argo mole and thought mpuv.

So did you.

[misty coyote]

I swear there was a pic and it dissappeared

[maiden steppe]

I think there was

Anyways
Can I fit a hoverquad in the back of an avenger titan without hating myself or just figure out where I can get a bike somewhere.

Or is the grey cat worth it

[misty coyote]

You can fit a knox

The PTV is fun

Would be my choice if it had a gun rack

The Hoverquad.....that might be toit

[maiden steppe]

I have 120k so nox is out. Looks like a hoverquad can fit if I spit on it. Plenty of examples on YouTube.

[misty coyote]

You can rent a Knox

It's the ceiling that's the problem... Hover vehicles tend to want to go up.

[maiden steppe]

Or I just spend the rest of the afternoon gathering presents and get a nox.

[misty coyote]

Before you do, rent it and try it out... You might hate it.

Then you'll have more than enough for a Hoverquad

I prefer the Knox....

[maiden steppe]

[misty coyote]

But we're all oddballs

[maiden steppe]

Do turrets ignore any of them?

[misty coyote]

Nope

They will shoot you right up

Rule of thumb... If it touches the ground, you're sound as a pound

Bit of UK phrasiology coming out there.

If you're running missions, go for the PTV.

[maiden steppe]

Perfect

Does it have cargo space?

I can look that up

[misty coyote]

PTV? Unfortunately not

You're looking at an STV for cargo space..

That's a tight fit too...

If you're on this little journey.... And you can
.... Get a Nomad... Then you can buy a Cyclone which has cargo space and fits.... It's the cheapest ship IRL that can hold the ROC.

[maiden steppe]

Mostly just fucking around until 3.18. And until a friend of mine eventually caves and gets a cutty starter.

[misty coyote]

Ah OK

Then just use a backpack.

Put a PTV in there... Or you could ask the server for some scratch..

Auec is pretty meaningless atm.

Players tend to give it to others to try ships out.

[maiden steppe]

Greycat ptv will make bunker missions much easier. Trying to be self sufficient so I'm not helpless after the wipe. Also I like being a stupid newbie. Its fun.

[misty coyote]

Oh then you'll love the PTV

If they just added a gun rack on the back.... I'd not use anything else...

[maiden steppe]

Also it's dirt cheap and it'll be easy to get the same setup quickly after the wipe.

[misty coyote]

It gauls me to have to drop a weapon

[maiden steppe]

Gun rack would be nice. Yesterday I was hauling all of the guns out of a bunker and ended up carrying them 3 at a time running them out to my ship.

Load a bunch on the elevator, ride it up, run back and forth, repeat.

[misty coyote]

That works for cave missions... You might be able to put a couple in the passenger seat....

As in.... No turrets so you can unload loot faster

I accidentally put more and more money into this..... So I'm sitting on a Taurus... Which can hold an Ursa Rover and a ROC at the same time.....

[maiden steppe]

Ooo like stack guns in the PTV unsecured

That's way better

Also not flying my avenger into caves would be cool too

[misty coyote]

No idea if it works....

[maiden steppe]

It should

[misty coyote]

Irl, putting a gun in the passenger seat totally work...

[maiden steppe]

Done it lots of times

[misty coyote]

For science... Report back....

[maiden steppe]

I've also strapped way more than two guns to a backpack

[misty coyote]

UK... I've never even seen a gun....

[maiden steppe]

US army for 10 years. I've seen a couple 😆

Now if they could do racks on the outside of the PTV that backpacks could mount to, the same way the army rigs UTVs. That would be amazing.

[misty coyote]

There is a spot right on the back.... A horizontal shotgun style fireplace rack would fit nicely there.

Just 1 space.... Nothing more....

I'm not greedy

[maiden steppe]

https://dirtwheelrider.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/utility-tactical-vehicle-2523393_960_720.jpg

That's a good example

https://cdn1.polaris.com/globalassets/military/2022/model/model-pages/mrzr-diesel/features/transportable-xxs.jpg

I just want to do that. Is that to much to ask?

[misty coyote]

Not at all man!!

Get CIG on the phone
..

Would be nice to have a little hanging room...

I used to put a PTV in the back of a Reliant Kore.

I likely will again, but the atmo flight got really janky

[maiden steppe]

@cig guys. This is gold here. It's a layup for 3.19 and more ground fighting.

[misty coyote]

Oh... Also.....vehicle parachutes for low drops.

Nice to bridge the gap between ground and air... As it generally feels like 2 games we're playing

[maiden steppe]

Yuuuup

[sweet birch]

While mining my ROC said "overheating SHutting down" now it wont turn back on is there a way to get it going again?

[misty coyote]

Nope..... Is kapput

[gloomy brook]

What are some good cargo runs?

[sweet birch]

i got it running again had to wait for heat to drop below 205

[misty coyote]

Well colour me wrong...Nice work!

[hasty tendon]

@maiden steppe did I catch you were in US Army?

[hasty tendon]

If ut's the fragmenting laser, You can prevent this by mining 2-3 rock clusters then collecting instead of busting 9-12 then collecting. Laser will cool off between

[maiden steppe]

@misty coyote success!

[maiden steppe]

yup yup. got out a few years ago.

fits easy with plenty of space to walk around it. I thought it was gonna be tight.

Greycat PTV in an Avenger Titan.

And the PTV survived the ship bugging out and exploding on a moon. I drove it to my new ship when I went to get my body.

And it survived logging out and logging back in stored in the hanger.

[sweet birch]

is there a way to incrrease the sensitivity of th scroll wheel for when im trying to adjust the power to the laser feels like i need to scroll my wheeel a couple of turns before it registers and then it goes up 5-10 percent only if i scroll fast

[misty coyote]

Nice!! See that space just above the red light on the back?

Got gun rack all over it.

[mighty prawn]

wow, PTV has gun rack?? good to know

[maiden steppe]

It doesn't. But it needs one.

[misty coyote]

It doesn't

[spiral yew]

Hey, Havent played in a minute, anyone have a good ship suggestion for a 2 person ship capable of doing cargo?

[misty coyote]

Jinx

[misty coyote]

Taurus

[maiden steppe]

If it's any consolation, I put a box in the passenger seat and drove it 250m from my dead ship to my new ship.

[spiral yew]

thanks

[mighty prawn]

so, we can put guns and stuff in the passenger seat of PTV?

[misty coyote]

Oh yeah! We were going to test guns placed on passenger seat

[spiral yew]

anything cheaper... just starting out again

[maiden steppe]

Yea using "place" on a thing and putting the thing in the passenger seat "worked". Def not intended and I wouldn't trust it but should work fine for hauling loot. When my ship blew up it dropped a crate so I'm planning on putting the crate in the passenger seat and filling it up with stuff to haul loot. Plus my armor and backpack I should be able to move a decent amount per trip. And not have to worry about turrets.

The real question is how many guns will stay in the passenger seat until they explode in a big floppy physics disaster.

[hasty tendon]

Not that I know of... I ended up getting dual joysticks and use the attached throttle lever of the left stick to control mining laser now. SUPER sensitive adjustments there. Mouse wheel always seems to lag the first 1-2 scroll clicks

Logging on, seeing how fast I can do a Prospector quant run tonight. Starting now

From log on to refinery finish

And if course I water time pulling the wrong ship

Try this again. Starting now

Found 9- cluster

[maiden steppe]

Might be something in your mouse settings if you have a configurable gaming mouse.

[hasty tendon]

Heading back to refinery

And done... 35 mins, 11883 refining cost for 2760 yield.

[ivory gust]

...which refining method did you use?

[hasty tendon]

Ferron, I generally log on every 13 hrs

[ivory gust]

ah, I thought you meant 35minutes refining time

[hasty tendon]

Sorry, 35 mins from login to mining to refining job start... 396k per hour

Next time is the cutty/roc hadanite and will see

[viral heath]

isnt that the stv?

[viral heath]

gonna be less auec per hour.. think the best roc miners make average 200k/hr

[misty coyote]

Freelancer then... You can go rent one too..

[viral heath]

i would say nomad over the base lancer

if roc mining

[misty coyote]

The STV is a bit bigger... The PTV is in the back of the titan

[viral heath]

max is life and max is lov

stv can fit the red curry though

i think

[vestal ravine]

Just cleared 200k with a drug Max route.

[misty coyote]

The OP wanted multicrew cargo....

I love the Nomad, but for cargo..... Less so

The MAX though..... This
... All. Of this...

[viral heath]

nah for multicrew cargo.. c2 or gtfo

lol

[misty coyote]

Hate that's true

I'm seeing emerging drug runs though. Etam sold in small batches

Must be a loop for 10 SCU or less, expensive cargo.... Prime for pirating and great for starters.

[vestal ravine]

I hit on a process during one run two stops bought $453,911.00 Etam with a single gross sale of $553,265.00. The days of low sales on Etam are over.

[maiden steppe]

@misty coyote
https://starcitizen.tools/UTV#/media/File:UTV_-_3D_concept-min.png

[gritty urchin]

If you aren't listening to sea shanties while hauling long distance cargo with the crew. What are you doing with your star citizen life. Get up with the times.

[viral heath]

what long distances? intra system trading is not long by any means lol

[viral heath]

i get teh same profit from a full ti run on a c2

[rocky kernel]

Ok I just tried on some shanties after seeing your message, epic feeling ngl

[misty coyote]

Me wanty!

[misty coyote]

Boo!

So on my Christmas list....

I want a commodity that costs about 2 or 3k to purchase per SCU. Sold at certain locations for 4 to 5k. Limited quantity.....

I'm sure I saw Construction Materials on a trade site that did this....

[vestal ravine]

Titanium is not a drug!

[viral heath]

heh

[vestal ravine]

Unless you have robot blood.

[viral heath]

drugs for your ship hull lol

[misty coyote]

"Go on Robbo...... Try Tanium"....

...... Oh man.....

[bronze nimbus]

whats the best trade route atm?

[vestal ravine]

Stop at all Agricium sell spots, store ship, take a break then do the same thing in reverse. See what happens, report back on profits.

[pastel flame]

One of the first unique suggestions I've seen in a while, neat

[ivory token]

can someone reccomend me a simple trading tutorial?

[open knot]

Problem, no matter how much power I put into any rock, the charge level NEVER increases above a pixel

with high sparks or none

wtf am I doing wrong

or is sc just being an ass agian

[ivory token]

get closer

[open knot]

I am in optimal range

30 meters

[hasty tendon]

I do all first-round busting between 2.0 and 1.6m
100% power with a little up/down motion with spacebar/L ctrl until green, then throttle between 85-95 to bust... BACKUP away from rock just before busting

[plush maple]

It may be too large of a rock, what's the mass @open knot

[open knot]

How do I place mining modules

Also it was k

5k

[ivory gust]

Are you using a lancet mining head?

[open knot]

it was a rented prospector

[drowsy turtle]

Do we know when we can expect module replacement/repair in ships? I blew my power supply on my prospector and basically became stranded. Or is this already ingame?

[rocky kernel]

Rented prospector cannot put Lancet lazer, so it's not really good for actually mining those 5k mass

[glacial dagger]

How did you blow your power supply?

[drowsy turtle]

well

Some rock exploded in front of me

and the ship turned off

and i fell like 2 meters

and it didn't turn on again

So i assumed it was the PSU

[glacial dagger]

Are you on PU or PTU?

[drowsy turtle]

PU

[ivory gust]

They have not provided any timeline for when that kind of thing will be introduced

[north oyster]

FYI New Letter from the Chairman, Yes CR Lives!! "plans rarely survive contact with the users"
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/19078-Letter-From-The-Chairman

[north oyster]

You can make money with the rental Prospector BUT you can not mine Quantainium. The Rental is great to learn the process. There is a video by Ryan of SuperMacBrothers who goes over making a profit with the Rental Prospector that would be worth watching.

[viral heath]

buy low sell high

[viral heath]

think you can go for laranite mining but the profit pales in comparison to quant though

with handheld gadgets i think macbros showed you can mine quant

[mild ibex]

i need help picking a mining ship and a cargo ship

i have 18 mil

[vestal ravine]

I would advise the Prospector and a C2. Both will do you well. I can show you a trade run at some point.

[mild ibex]

Where do I buy em

[vestal ravine]

Lorville/New Deal on Hurston and Orison for a C2. But let me clarify if any other spots please.

[mild ibex]

Wait what?

Clarify what

[vestal ravine]

Just see if the ships are sold at a 2nd city or not.

[vestal ravine]

Area 18 at the Astro Armada store for the C2. Start at Hurston then go to Area 18 on Arc Corp...

[mild ibex]

What beside the C2 would u recommend

[vestal ravine]

Some people like the Raft for cargo... Checking on the Carrick also one sec...The Carrack is 26 million...at Area 18...The Raft is 1.8 million at New Deal but does not hold as much as the C2.

[mild ibex]

Damn

[marble crater]

Drake Caterpillar or Hercules C2 are the 2 popular cargo options. both around $5M. C2 is currently the better pick

[mild ibex]

Anything abit smaller

[vestal ravine]

Freelancer MAX is an option.

[marble crater]

Constellation Taurus or Freelancer Max for smaller cargo haulers but they're only really good for moving mined Quantainium. won't make much hauling cargo

MSR is pretty good for moving quant too

[mild ibex]

And the prospecter is the best mining ship

[vestal ravine]

https://www.erkul.games/live/calculator

[marble crater]

Prospector & Mole are the only mining ships. Prospector is better for solo use

[sweet birch]

wonder if they'll introduce field repairing at some point , would be nice to be able to fix that vehicle or ship ,i geuss they kinda have with salv being able to repair hulls

[pastel jewel]

I love mining

You can’t use the ROC on big rocks right

[fast summit]

I'm trying to find some decent cargo runs for my Caterpillar - can you still buy Medical Supplies on Olisar? I just see Scrap and Waste on the commodities purchase screen

[pastel jewel]

It think it will be somewhere on one of the moons in mico tech.

[fast summit]

the trade route planner I'm using must be out of date then, does anyone have a reliable website to use

[pastel jewel]

I do not have time right now

[rustic root]

Anyone running Refueling

Kinda stranded and need refueled

Plus could use a refueler on standby

[north oyster]

CIG does not offer live or updated data on trade, so all the websites can only offer default prices

[north oyster]

Correct, the ROC can only mine gems, not ore

[maiden steppe]

3.18 has salvage and ship repair

[mossy sky]

Anyone out there running routes from jumptown need an extra wing? Bucc and arrow for fighters. Let me know

Oh maybe the wrong place to ask this. My bad

[viral heath]

whats the best route for aaron halo mining? arc l1 to cru l5 or arc l1 to hurston?

[pastel jewel]

The the ROC have any mods.

[viral heath]

no

[viral heath]

so a 22% rock with a mass of 4.7k means how many potential scu?

[restive moth]

Should I get prospector or mole to solo mine

[viral heath]

prospy for solo

mole solo is a pita

[restive moth]

How much can prosp hold

[viral heath]

32

so you want a total mass of 32x50

1600 mass of mineable quant

so 35% of a 5k rock

[restive moth]

Is roc only ground mining vehicle?

[ivory gust]

ROC-DS as well

[ivory gust]

With no loss, at 5k mass 1% = 1 SCU, so 32% at 5k theoretically fills the hold

[viral heath]

giiving a rough estimate.. there will be loss no matter what

lol

[viral heath]

yes

[ivory gust]

No, also ROC-DS

[viral heath]

i thought he meant is roc only a ground mining vehicle

[ivory gust]

Realistically you're not going to get a perfect break anyway so you'd probably need closer to 40% at 5k to get a 32 SCU haul

[viral heath]

which it is

we can do 5k in the halo without surge right

[ivory gust]

Ah yes, is the question "is roc [the] only ground mining vehicle" or "is roc only [a] ground mining vehicle"

[ivory gust]

With lancet yes, anything in halo can be done without mods

[viral heath]

ok might have to go the passive route for the halo

surge mining is too exciting for me lol

[restive moth]

The only ground vehicle lol

Roc ds?

[viral heath]

roc and roc ds.. actually no point getting the roc ds since you ahve to split the same money with another guy

[restive moth]

Roc is at new deal right

Imma start there since I’m new to game still just been doing cargo and drugs and got some money

But want learn mining

[viral heath]

do you have experience hand mining?

aka in caves or jail?

[restive moth]

No lol

[viral heath]

i would get a cs go to jail and try hand mining first to get used to the mechanics

wont recommend caves since its easy to get lost if you doing a bounty cave.. but if investigation should be relatively ok

[ivory gust]

Nah, you can just switch seats to the mining laser after moving it

[viral heath]

true but there isnt any value addedness to the roc ds compared the roc

besides a little more durability

[restive moth]

I spawn my roc at the small stations on moon? Or at lorville

[ivory gust]

ROC-DS has more storage space, and the laser has longer range and more power (cracks stuff faster)

[elder jasper]

where to for a beginner miner?
i gots a tiny pistol with both miner and cutter

[viral heath]

i would suggest taking an investigation cave mission and do hand mining first

[north oyster]

Besides hand mining, if funds are ok, you can rent a ROC and a cutlass black (also buy Pembroke armor) to test that mining loop

[ivory frigate]

How do I find my ROC? At a ASOP terminal, info says "Unknown". The "track" button doesn't seem to do anything. I think I should have cargo in it

[mighty prawn]

Is ROC still in your ship's cargo?