industrial-professions

[placid bison]

what do i need to mine on lyria

[glacial dagger]

What are you looking to mine?

[glacial dagger]

The best stuff to mine is Quant, but if your in a rental/stock prospector, the Pretty much anything to get your experiance and skills up

[placid bison]

quant i have a prospecter i mine in the halo mainly but lyria is better

[glacial dagger]

People keep on saying that, but I'm not so sure...

[placid bison]

to many unscannables

[glacial dagger]

Same planet side if I'm honest

[placid bison]

i found a 40% rock already in 5 mins wouldve took me 30 mins up there

[glacial dagger]

Lucky you then

How are you scanning stuff down?

[placid bison]

just tab go to see if its 2 rocks

then check the percent

[glacial dagger]

Wait, are you not doing the narrow ping trick?

[placid bison]

how do i do that

[glacial dagger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz8TOCUa0Ms

You start with the 360/179 degree ping

Then once you get a hit, you narrow your ping angle and re-scan in the direction of the hits

You can scan down rocks up to like, 15k away using this]

Has to be line of sight though

[hollow sedge]

Quick question, I was thinking of upgading my pledge to a prospector mining ship and was wondering if anyone had any reccomendations on if i should do it or not?

[glacial dagger]

What were you going to CCU from?

[placid bison]

so what do i need to mine big rocks on lyria?

[glacial dagger]

The 5.5k rocks and up can only really be broken with multiple people, a MOLE or the surge active module that helps increase it's power

[placid bison]

so i need a surge module?

[glacial dagger]

Personally I prefer going passive, not have to keep on replacing them then

[placid bison]

whats passive way then?

[glacial dagger]

Slightly less powerful, but they dont get used up and are always on

When quant mining, I like 2x Reiger C3 and 1x Vaux C3

[tame crown]

i got some mineral looted from a mission, how should i sell them, i can't sell them at admin, neighter at the ore sales counter

[glacial dagger]

Pretty sure I have already answered this one. The small boxes that say 'Metal' are probably scrap which sells for 1.92 aUEC per unit, and their 12.5 unit boxes, 1/8th SCU.

[placid bison]

can it break 5.5k and up?

[glacial dagger]

if you do still wanna sell them though, check this link otu
https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Scrap

[glacial dagger]

Nope, not without additional ships. Without the active modules, the prospector just cant output enough laser power on it's own to crack the 5.5k+ rocks

Hence why I like Aaron Halo mining much more

[hollow sedge]

The hornet

[glacial dagger]

I would hold off then

It's easier enough to use your hornet to spam out bounties and then jsut buy a Prospector in game

[hollow sedge]

ah alr then

any reccomendations on what i should upgrade the hornet too?

@glacial dagger

[glacial dagger]

I wouldn't

The Hornet is a good ship

Only think I might recommend upgrading it up to is a Buccaneer

[hollow sedge]

I dont think i canmy only options are Freelancer max and dur, mantis, prospec, consttauraus andromede and quilla, corsair mole and galaxy

so tbh not sure what i should do

[glacial dagger]

I would hold off for now 😄

[hollow sedge]

alrighty then

@glacial dagger is there going to be an event soon that adds more upgradable ship options?

[glacial dagger]

Not a clue, but I hope so

[hollow sedge]

alrighty

[hollow sedge]

also how do you upgrade to a buc :/

@glacial dagger i am so sorry one more question, do you reckon upgrading to the mantis could be worthwhile? or a waste of a purchase

[opal yoke]

So, do we know how Salvage will work gameloop wise? Will we have to find our ships to salvage like we do asteroids? Will there be salvage missions?
Im quite out of the loop

[rare charm]

Ships will spawn that can be salvaged, like mining. Or any player ships that have a “soft death”

There’s been no talk of missions yet. But we’re only in tier 0 of salvage. Hull munching and component stripping should be worked on next

I want to say there was talk of trade and mining missions, but nothing fully announced. I’d imagine salvage would get included if they did

[misty coyote]

With the changes to distortion, I wonder if there is a reason not to add these to Vultures and do VLRTs....

[mighty prawn]

What changes to distortion?

[worthy scroll]

They aren't very useful anymore. Again.

[mighty prawn]

oh, my understanding is that it will shut down the internal components and thereby shutting the ship down, so it's not happening anymore with the new patch?

I just bought sentinel, so I guess I should upgrade components right away

[worthy scroll]

I haven't used them in .17, but from what everyone has said, their damage was nerfed to the point of being useless again.

[mighty prawn]

Oh, that, yes, the damage is way less, might as well go with laser repeaters or cannon

[worthy scroll]

They were really fun for a while, when atmo bounties came out they were hilariously good.

But I'm just going off of second hand knowledge from what I've read here. I haven't tested it myself recently.

[misty coyote]

Components will take damage, then just shut off for 5 minutes.

No further damage will be taken at that time, so you can't lock someone up.

5 minutes is enough to get away, or board and take over etc...

I'll be adding distortion weapons to my haulers for this reason.... Subject to usefulness... Might be they don't do anything at all.

[mighty prawn]

Can you still do damage to the ship with other non-distortion guns?

I think you meant no further damage to the ship's components will be done once they get shut off, right?

[glacial dagger]

Ehh, in my opinion, the Mantis is really only good for multi-fleet operations and act as just the QT dampener. It's fighting capabilities are kings trash tbh

[misty coyote]

Not further damage from distortion... If you distort someone off, you can blast them with regular guns

[mighty prawn]

ok, thanks

[misty coyote]

This is all based off of the patch watch notes.... Might be either me getting things wrong in interpretation, or they won't do it that way....
I hope distortion becomes a thing unto itself.

Shutting a ship off and blowing them up maybe not the same thing....

Adding some gameplay to reduce the time your ship is floating through power rerouting

[mighty prawn]

Yeah, and shutting it off for 5 whole minutes sounds too much time

[worthy scroll]

The point is eventually you aren't supposed to be blowing everyone up, shutting down is meant to be much more common. Distortions will definitely come into play later when we have the proper game loops for it.

[worthy scroll]

I think part of that is going to fall into the engineering stuff later. You'll be able to repair or replace components that get damaged/shut down.

TTK is supposed to get much longer, so you'll have time to do those emergency things.

[misty coyote]

I'm thinking of shutting down and hull stripping

[earnest river]

anyone doing mole minging

[royal epoch]

Well, just did my first real mining run. Found a rock of quaint and have 640 ish units refining atm. We will see how it turns out in 16hr when it is done xD

Also, what is the reason for the prospector to come with an Arrow? Might melt my gladius if it will be a continuing thing next patch

[pliant matrix]

most not fighting ships (or ships without pilots guns) comes with a light fighter as a loaner. For example Vulture comes with a buccaneer.

https://support.robertsspaceindustries.com/hc/en-us/articles/360003093114-Loaner-Ship-Matrix

[royal epoch]

Gotcha so can melt thr gladius np then and mebbe upgrade a hauler

[royal epoch]

What is the average unit of quaint vs scu ratio?

[ivory gust]

A "unit" is exactly 1/100 SCU

So 640 units is 6.4 SCU

[royal epoch]

Awesome, that's very helpful thank you

[visual nova]

do yall think its better to mine quant in space or on lyria?

[ivory gust]

Entirely personal preference, there are advantages and disadvantages to both

[royal epoch]

Done two runs on Lyria and have roughly 220k in profit refining atm

Would had more but made the mistake of picking up junk rocks and ran out of cargo room

[split slate]

is quant the only thing worth mining ? lol

[jovial matrix]

If you want money, yes

[vestal fjord]

would I mine laranite if I want to get enough money to buy the prospector and mining head?

since rentals cant get quant

[idle anvil]

available from stations with a refinery, which I think are at any L1 point

[molten stag]

How long did that take?

[craggy garden]

anyone want to go mining i need a crew for my mole

[glacial dagger]

#looking-for-session would be a better place to ask

[north oyster]

Aberdeen has the highest concentration of hadanite, you will need Pembroke armor there. Arial is second. Daymar is good for those who don't have armor. You can sell the gems at any outpost or Admin office

[hollow sedge]

Do we have an idea of how profitable salvaging is going to be?

[worthy scroll]

Initially, I think they said on par with quant mining? I could be remembering wrong though. But it'll definitely change over time.

[misty coyote]

It being a usable material too means you might keep a box for yourself. Replenish yours and your mates multitool for ship repair

[split slate]

@craggy garden just solo it dawg

[hollow sedge]

Oh so pretty good payout then. If that is the case then I might buy back my Vulture for 3.18

[vestal ravine]

EDIT: I finally made it to Brio's Yard on Daymar to sell some Agricium. They took 5000 units which was about half I had bought at 4 different stops. I was hoping they would buy all. So this has limited utility if bought in larger amounts. Did not record the sale price and when I went back to dump the rest the following day some reds chased me off with a missile barrage but I QT to Crusader to sell it.

[glacial dagger]

So yh, different places have maximum stock levels for purchasing and selling. They might also not be able to buy all your cargo because this might put them beyond their max capacity

SC Trade Tools can help give you a rough idea on what the max levels and refresh rates are

But don't take these values as the hard truth, as the game can update during play that the website just cant update to

[tame crown]

how can i enter mine mode in mole, i tried to enter the mode in pilot seat, but nothing happen

[plush maple]

You don't mine from the pilot seat, you mine from one of the 3 mining seats

[tame crown]

how can i check the rocks content??

[plush maple]

Press v for scanner and scan it while very close

Or look the usual way from a mining seat

[tame crown]

kk thx

[plush maple]

It's kinda a pain so if you're hunting Quant, go to lyria and any time there's multiple rocks, it's Quant

[tame crown]

kk thx, i just upgrade to this ship

[plush maple]

Anywhere else I'd use a Prospector if solo

[tame crown]

kk

[north oyster]

I think to get as many as possible to test out Salvage, they will make it both easy to find and profitable. That was what they did when they rolled out ROC mining. They had whole planets and moons that were 100% hadanite. So you could turn some good coin in a short time

[ivory gust]

Note that they said the salvage item will sell for about the same as quant per SCU, but that doesn't cover how quickly it's collected or how hard it is to find

[jovial matrix]

This is true

And if you’re in a vulture, it’s gonna take 2 runs to make the same amount as one quant run in a prospector

Assuming you get only quant that is

[ivory gust]

My current hopium is that there will be warbonds on some haulers for 3.18 and PES release, particularly Hull A, so I can justify completing my Vulture CCU chain

Otherwise, I'll just be hand tool salvaging or not salvaging at all

[fresh ivy]

@grand trout https://cstone.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes You'll want this for Aaron Halo mining

[grand trout]

So uh... How do I land in the Aaron Halo?

Oh

[fresh ivy]

:)

[grand trout]

Is there any way to like.. Ping rocks?

So I don't check them twice

[fresh ivy]

Sadly no

[grand trout]

there really should be

[worthy scroll]

Things that will come later. Exploration is almost entirely about logging things like that (theoretically). It will come.

[ivory gust]

For Halo mining, just set your route back to your refinery station and only move in that general direction, and don't look behind you. You won't check rocks twice that way

So when you first land in the Halo, check all around you and investigate any Q-types, then start heading only toward your refinery station, investigating any Q-types along the way

[grand trout]

How do I tell how much I can fit with 32SCU/

?

like if rocks say "mass 70" or something, how do I calculate that value to SCU to know if I need to break up more quant or if I have enough there to fill my cargo?

[ivory gust]

At 5000 mass, 1% = 1 SCU

Can also use a calculator like https://sc-mining.app/

[grand trout]

Dope! Ty

[hollow sedge]

Just noticed the Cutter and Vulture have the same thrusters.

[vestal ravine]

I have a new question. Is there a trade resource site that lists item sold per terminal? That way if I'm going to a new place for "Gold" I could look and see what else they carry for sale. Any leads?

[jovial matrix]

that they do

[grand trout]

What do I do if rocks wont scan?

[ivory gust]

Move on. Those are unscannables. Happens all the time in the belt

[grand trout]

I'm on Lyria

I think its just messed up

I can't log off in prospy rip

[ivory gust]

Why not? Go to bed, lie down in bed, hold F, pick "log out" from the menu

[grand trout]

Are there some rocks you can't crack with a Prospector?

I found a 7400 mass rock, and I can't find a place where the charge level will go up

[sonic laurel]

you probably need a mining gadget

prospies do have limits

[ivory gust]

You'll need modules and/or gadgets in order to mine anything about ~5.5k mass. 2 surge modules and a stampede module should work for just about anything.

[grand trout]

rip I found a 40% 7400 rock

So I guess I'll just keep finding something

I currently have two Torrent III and a Focus III

[ivory gust]

40% 7400 is almost enough to fill two prospectors, could also ask for help in chat and flip a coin as to whether you get another miner or a pirate

[jovial matrix]

whats the cargo space on the corsair again?

[ivory gust]

Low, like 72 iirc

Yeah, 72

[jovial matrix]

damn

thanks

[sonic laurel]

weakest part of the ship

[jovial matrix]

yeah

[jovial matrix]

decided to use my cat for once, impromptu cargo hauling time

aaaaand I CTD upon landing, awesome

bye bye money

[worthy scroll]

Getting the full experience!

[jovial matrix]

Fr

[brazen walrus]

Hello there, are there any websites or tools to see commodity demand and supply in real time?

[wary tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-general-kenobi-star-wars-grevious-gif-17774326

[ivory gust]

No, that information isn't available outside the game.

[brazen walrus]

rip, thx for reply tho

Any place I can visit to see that info?

[ivory gust]

Nope, there's currently no central location for that, would just have to visit each destination yourself to find out the current price.

A site like !tradetools can show you the base price for something at a location, but it can vary up or down from that

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[jovial matrix]

apparently R&D orinth on hurston will buy 20SCU of E'tam at a time

thats good to know

[pliant matrix]

That's the max it can take so if anyone sold idk 18scu just before you arrived well gl selling your 20. It'll take ages

Oh and those 20scu are shared between all servers too btw

[jovial matrix]

I know

[ivory gust]

That "shared between all servers" is the worst/most frustrating part, since anyone with half a brain could've seen that it wouldn't scale with more players.

If I see another player at the console before me (or just another trading ship parked there) then yeah, I can understand their supply or demand might be low

[jovial matrix]

I dont think ive ever seen someone else at R&D orinth when i do drug running

[pliant matrix]

Just kill him... Make supply and demand yours xD

[amber terrace]

but you will see them after server meshing

[ivory gust]

A) Most of these are in armistice so you can't
B) that's my point, you don't see the people

[ivory gust]

Yeah, and that's going to suck because these locations aren't designed to handle more than one person at a time

Just like at the start of this wipe, the massive queues to buy ships at New Deal on Lorville since there's only the one terminal

[jovial matrix]

That is so dumb

[glacial dagger]

I do hope they either increase the refresh rate, the refresh amount or max stock

[jovial matrix]

The singular terminal

[ivory gust]

Imagine if World of Warcraft only allowed one person to interact with each vendor or banker or auctioneer at a time

[pliant matrix]

Guys... The shame is it's supposed to be future and you can't order your ship online... Going to ship vendor is so old fashioned 🤣

[ivory gust]

Yep, or why do I need to take the subways across town to physically get to a terminal to sell my stuff from my ship back at the spaceport? I should be able to do it from my mobiglass. Even if not, any sensible business buying/selling from ships would be located at the spaceport

Alternately, why the hell aren't the hotels at the spaceport in the cities? IRL airports have hotels all around them

[rocky fox]

anything special I should know before trading SLAM? 😛

in my small Cutter

(I want to come back to Star Citizen even if I'm waiting for the reset... it's wasted time BUT I can learn more about the game, no?)

[tame crown]

Guys, i am new to mining and i got a mole, where should i go mining

[glacial dagger]

Dont buy too much, be prepared to travel a lot to see your cargo, and avoid the no questions asked terminals, they buy it for a much lower price

[pliant matrix]

not worth it tbh. supplies are low and demand as well so you'll take a lot of time selling something that doesn't give a good income

[glacial dagger]

To begin with, mine anything anywhere, just build up your experiance

Once you start getting some more experiance and can possibly pull togethere a crew, start looking towards getting quant mining in the Aaron Halo or lyria

[rocky fox]

thanks guys!

[glacial dagger]

Nw bud, happy to help

[rocky fox]

I think I'll improve my skills in mining then, renting a Prospector and (fingers crossed) hoping to make that cost back in a night 😛

[tame crown]

kk thx

[glacial dagger]

But yh, go easy with drug trading, supply can be tantalisingly high, but demand is almost always on the lower side

[glacial dagger]

Nw bud, and good luck mining

[rocky fox]

after all, I like living in a refinery xD

[glacial dagger]

This guide will be your very best friend on time saving skills https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz8TOCUa0Ms

If any of the mods are watching this, please could this video be pinned, it's really useful for just about everyone

[rocky fox]

oh yes yes, I know almost everything* about mining, I only need to practice more because I'm not lucky enough and I find bugged asteroids and/or I need to learn how to only mine the fragments worth mining xD

also, I need to check how fast I can get the money back after renting the ship 👍

(community and those videos are the best part of SC) xD

you know, I tried with the free ones from the event BUT I was making a lot of mistakes and I was taking my time 😛

no rush

but NOW... eh

24 hours for me

[glacial dagger]

Day renting isn't worth it. 3 days rental, especially over the weekend, you can defo make your money off it

I hope you have a cargo ship with at least 32 SCU storage

[rocky fox]

why, is it "cheaper" when it is for 3 days?

eh no, no cargo ship, I'd have to rent that one too!

I only have my Cutter

[glacial dagger]

3 days technically costs less than getting 3 1 day rentals

[rocky fox]

ah ok

ah yes

Rent (3 days)
131,389 aUEC

[glacial dagger]

Also, I would reccomend doing combat missions until you have saved up enough aUEC to buy a Prospector, buecause the rental prospector cant really break much, especially not the juicy quant rocks

Also, you cant upgrade the rental prosp

[rocky fox]

I think you are right

I have 390k aUEC and it's been a pain

and 100k was a donation xD

[ember night]

This Sunday i rented Cutty+ROC for 38k and mine Hadenite worth 300k. Its not much but it honest work. BTW I like ROC mining :)

[glacial dagger]

What's your largest cargo capable ship?

And yh, ROC mining is pretty dam fun, especially when you find a consistant spawn of rocks 😄

[amber terrace]

consistant, as in the same place you return/relog to?

[rocky fox]

Tried to fit the ROC in the Cutlass in the past, I made a mess and run out of patience 😅

[rocky fox]

Cutter. I think it's 4 SCU

[rocky fox]

Also, 300k is really good for me 😅

[ember night]

ROC fit perfect in Cuttlas Black. Use 3d person cam view, deactivate mining mode and will be fine

[tame crown]

Guys, i can't see the mineral content on mole's pilot seat even i pressed V, any solution?

[glacial dagger]

Yup, and no, I'm not telling anyone where it is...

[glacial dagger]

Your gonna been a larger cargo capacity ship than that to move yoru refined goods

The refinery deals are 1 time outputs, if you try and load 32 SCU of refined ore into a 12 SCU ship, the game will delete 20SCU of goods

[glacial dagger]

Where abouts are you?

[rocky fox]

yep, I'm aware of that... my career AFTER reset is clear, what I should be doing before the reset it not clear xD

[tame crown]

on the surface of yela

[glacial dagger]

Combat to build up the funds for running large amounts of cargo

That's my reccomendation anyway

[rocky fox]

ok ok 🙂

I need to improve my combat skills

[glacial dagger]

Gonna be running combat missions till I hit 1 miil, then start running my cargo

[glacial dagger]

Ok, have you tried looking at the rock through a mining turret?

[tame crown]

i got the info through the turret, but not the pilot seat

[glacial dagger]

Then just use the turret for getting mineral data

This is why I reccomend getting a crew together before going Mole Mining

Stops the pilot having to constantly go back and forth between pilots seat and mining turret

[tame crown]

ok...

[icy sun]

Quick Question(coming over from #helpdesk):
I'm currently at Hurston/Magda/HDMS-Perlman and I want to sell Dolvine.
Uexcorp.space says, that I can sell it here for 130aUEC per Unit, but when I open the trading console in the building on the right there's no location that I can sell it from, I have some in my ship, some at the facilty and some in my Backpack, what am I doing wrong/not getting?

[rugged axle]

How close to the rock are you? Scan mode(v) has to be within around 200meters.

[north oyster]

Dolvine can be sold at any outpost and Admin office

Is this from picking up off of bodies of NPCs? Then I'm not sure if the kiosk will see it. I know if you mine it directly, you have no issues selling it

[icy sun]

It's PvP loot so idk tbh

[rugged axle]

Picking from bodies is still sold at admin stations.

[north oyster]

thx death, good to know

[rugged axle]

No probs. Can be from mining, cave bodies, or pvp. And 99% sure can be sold from backpack or your ship

[north oyster]

could be the inventory might be bugged out, so you might need to see about maybe move one or two and see if they show up

[ivory gust]

Since you got it from pvp you might need a no questions asked terminal

[jovial matrix]

Perhaps

You can hit up reclamation and disposal orinth on hurston if you need one of those

[zinc knot]

have CIG indicated that they'll be changing either cargo prices or supply/demand next patch?

[rare charm]

They said they aren’t making any changes. I want to say it was in a Q&A

[zinc knot]

what on earth

aren't they adding the hull c with the patch?

[rare charm]

Nope

Here’s the current major updates

https://starcitizen.tools/Update:Star_Citizen_Alpha_3.18.0

[ivory gust]

Hull C would be totally wasted in the current game. All the best trade routes require landing on planets or moons, which the Hull C can't do while laden

[grand trout]

So wait, someone said there is some way to fly like 6k up, and then scan so only double rocks show up?

How does that work?

[misty coyote]

On the Hull series... Is there going to be a way to load these up with your own cargo? Stolen or found...

Or is this just professionally loaded only?

Addendum.... I think the likely answer is a shrug.... Thought I'd ask

[north oyster]

Because the cardio refactor will be brand new along with persistent entity streaming, Tier Zero with no changes only makes sense

[jovial matrix]

A pirate hull would be interesting

A pirate group using a hull b or C to haul all their stolen goods, doesn’t seem very smart though

[misty coyote]

I wonder if they will snap to the grid... Magnetics and all

[rocky fox]

ok so, I rented the Prospector because I was bored and I don't care about money anyway (reset)

1st time: the game disconnects me in the middle of the mining session, with an error I never had before; oh well;
2nd time: I raise landing gear BEFORE taking off, and for absurd reasons the two are connected and I wasn't able to take-off anymore, so I rage quit
3rd time: I complete the trip and AFTER I enter the hangar the games says that's not my hangar; ship get impounded so now I probably need to pay a fine more costly than my whole cargo

either this game hates me, or I'm too clumsy and I should really wait for the official release 😉

[north oyster]

I don't think so, at least not soon(tm). The scale is just too massive once you get to the Hull C and larger.

[ivory gust]

2: You may have accidentally triggered autoland. There's a bug right now where if you trigger autoland while already landed, the ship gets stuck and you can't take off. Fix is to store/retrieve the ship
3: You only need to pay the impound fine if you're taking the ship out again within 15min. I intentionally get impounded every time I come back from a mining trip (since there's bugs around normal landings with quant) and it's not a problem.

[north oyster]

The impound isn't bad. Infact, it's the safest way to land because sometimes the ship will explode when landing

[rocky fox]

2. possible, even if I just press once (not hold) N when taking off, but who knows 😄
3. ohh interesting! I'll save 5000 credits! 😄 thanks

eh yes I know quant is dangerous but no, I mined basic (and not valuable) stuff 😄

[ivory gust]

I've also accidentally triggered autoland even when I thought I've just tapped it not held. I actually unbound it from my joystick since I never use it anyway

[rocky fox]

good tip xD

as I said before, this is the only game I love and hate at the same time 😄

[grand trout]

Also what do ya'll suggest as a mining module loadout for the Prospector?

I feel like I'm not running the right one

[ivory gust]

If you're mining on a moon: 2 surge modules, 1 stampede module. This will allow you to break large rocks.

If you're mining in space: doesn't matter, use what you want

[grand trout]

Cool!

[grand trout]

Do you have any preferences for the space mining? I'd imagine having a surge module would help you crack a rock quicker?

[ivory gust]

It can yes, but I just go without when space mining since I'm lazy

[grand trout]

I know some people apparently use a stampede in space to speed crack rocks

Someone ingame also said that solo Prospector you should just go to the belt, if you're doing duo prospector or mole then go to a planet

[ivory gust]

That's one way of looking at it, yeah

[grand trout]

So someone also said you can somehow scan a rock from like 10k out in Aaron Halo to see if its a Q type? How would you do that?

[ivory gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz8TOCUa0Ms

[vestal ravine]

After hanger landing they have told me the wrong info on occasion just ignore it. The impound fees go away after 15 minutes or so. I to have rage quit but have become more accepting of how the game is.

[bold garnet]

Do rocks persist between sessions/servers? As in, if I return to my current location later in time will the rocks still be there?

[scarlet rover]

are the turrets on the MOLE busted? seems like different players can no longer scan separate rocks

[grand trout]

No

I'm curious if they would though with PES coming in though

[bold garnet]

Thanks

[bold garnet]

Hopefully

[ivory gust]

If you're still on the same server and return to the same location, the rocks should still be there, but they don't persist otherwise

[misty coyote]

This should be loaded up onto janus

[glacial dagger]

I requested this literally yesterday here #industrial-professions message

Also...

[scarlet rover]

Nobody else experiencing the scanning problem with the MOLE? Or is this a known problem

[ivory gust]

I haven't had any issues scanning in the MOLE but I haven't had multiple people in turrets before.

Is it possible it's just the normal unscannable rock issues?

[scarlet rover]

I might check IC, my buddy and I experienced it while operating a MOLE together. Whoever started scanning/mining a rock, the other player could only see THEIR progress. I.e. can't scan/mine two separate rocks at the same time which I seem to recall having done in the past

[ivory gust]

That's super weird, yeah

[royal epoch]

Think a hull A would be sufficent to haul refined quant?

[ivory gust]

It can haul up to 2 full Prospector loads at a time, so it's usable to start with, but long term you'd probably want something bigger

[pliant matrix]

I just learned modules for galaxy are necessary to not have an empty room (or landing pad actually). Will module be buyable ingame after the ship got released?

idk if it's considered an extra item like mining head or paint for example

[ivory gust]

Presumably they'll be buyable in game at some point, but we don't know if they'll be buyable in game right at release

It's not a landing pad when there's no module, it's just a big empty room. The door to the hangar is too small for it to be useful

Super dumb IMO, it should just be the cargo space by default

[pliant matrix]

I'm pretty sure they said that "room" is large enough for xxs ships to land

like the size of a small PO landpad

[ivory gust]

...Yes. The Hangar is.

The empty space where the modules go is large, but you can't get anything in there except through the small door to the hangar

[pliant matrix]

aah I see

I tho the module took place in the hangar actually

[ivory gust]

Nope, hangar is behind the modular area

[pliant matrix]

damn that's a lot of place to remain empty without a module... I'll have to get a module then. Just have to decide which one xD

[ivory gust]

I wouldn't buy one for real money. Wait to see how they're available in game

[pliant matrix]

yeah I meant ingame. that'll be pretty cheap I guess. Like a million at max

[marble crater]

should be around 2 years or so before modules are close to being in game so plenty of time to wait out options.

[sudden scroll]

Same just get them ingame no point on spending cash on the model. There not worth the price.

[worldly trellis]

Gonna go get my Cutty B & Roc soon. Not exactly rolling in credits, but might go for a reasonable upgrade. Any upgrades i should slap on to start?

[native marsh]

xl-1 quantum drive to be sure

[worldly trellis]

Tx

[finite yew]

Hey folks, got a question for you'll which ship is the best for transporting refined materials?

my money is on the cat, but im a lil new to the mining/transporting biss

[misty coyote]

RAFT

3 Refinery jobs of Quant

Enough to make it worth doing, not too many loads to lose in client crashes or other SC shenanigans

[lime nova]

cat is a bit overkill, I personally use the raft

[ivory gust]

Freelancer MAX. Nearly 4 full loads, and unlike RAFT it can carry vehicles, so it's more versatile

[pliant matrix]

Taurus is fine too. Maybe a bit slower but looks cool 😎

[misty coyote]

Oh, the MAX is defo a good one..

My programmer head has 1 thing to do 1 job though.

The RAFT can't have a vehicle, so use that for refinery jobs. The MAX can hold vehicles, so use that for that and the odd Laranite pickup.

The Taurus is more of a jack of all, as you can get 3 jobs in, and some vehicles

[lime nova]

yeah, fatlancer is a lot more versatile I'll give it that

but damn does the raft have a nice interior

[misty coyote]

I'm looking for a CCU for a RAFT as I think it will always have a use for Refinery jobs or Hauling

[finite yew]

Perfect thanks for speaking up everyone helps bunches ^^

[jovial matrix]

you can carry almost 5 and 1/2 loads in a taurus

[misty coyote]

3 is my limit

More and you're risking alot of lost bank through crashes of all sorts

[worldly trellis]

If I were to log off in bed in a cutty black while roc mining, would I be able to log in and start where I left off?

[misty coyote]

In an ideal world

What will actually happen can be truly random.

Your landing gear will be up, and the ROC may or may not be in your hold.

You may or may not be on the ship, but could be merged into the ship.

This may or may not mean you can move through your ship and not interact with anything.

I have bed logged on a Taurus, and been standing in the Cargo Bay like a sleep walker

[vestal ravine]

I somehow survived the triple red box error message (Screen Lock) in a Cutter on Ita. Was revived a few feet up in the air in the ship's galley/bed area. I used the "Lie Down" command to get back to normal walking and then flying. This type crash generally causes loss of the ship and any cargo. Anyone have this type recovery?

[rocky fox]

damn, now don't make me want to have a Raft...

too many nice ships 😛

and no money xD

[mystic wave]

Should I buy the vulture?

[tacit delta]

is MOLE bugged? My friend bought one and even in VTOL mode it can't hover in plaace

he needs to manually press space to thrust it a bit every few seconds

[mighty prawn]

He might be in decoupled mode, I think the default key bind is Alt C for toggling between coupled and decoupled mode

[tacit delta]

He said the MOLE is a bit more stable when the landing gear is out

[feral holly]

What do you guys think of the MSR? I have been looking at it

[worthy scroll]

It's a decent enough ship, though most of its intended gameplay is implemented yet. But it makes for a good enough run around, light cargo ship. Quick, because it's meant to run from trouble rather than fight.

[ivory gust]

Overpriced and bloated with very poor use of internal space. It's on par with the Freelancer Max for cargo, but costs 2x as much.

It's also Under gunned and under shielded.

[prime pine]

Accel. limiter all the way up?

[tacit delta]

IDK what his deal was, but I can confirm that in ARC-L1 hangar, when I'm hovering in VTOL mode and I turn off VTOL the ship immediately falls

it doesn't happen in Lyria strangely enough

[teal ridge]

I don’t usually mine apart from some roc mining the odd time, what’s the big difference between the prospector and mole ?

[prime pine]

Prospector is a dedicated solo miner. You can solo a Mole but it's more efficient with a crew.

[teal ridge]

I tired the prospector awhile ago but had no clue when to use the sub charge

[prime pine]

Were you trying to mine Quantanium?

[teal ridge]

Yes on lyria I like planet mining not space

[prime pine]

Did you have the Lancet MH1 mining head?

[teal ridge]

Yes I did

[prime pine]

I'd practice on rocks smaller than 5k mass, with no mods to get the hang of it. When you get bigger than that is when you need ship equipment to crack.

[teal ridge]

Ok that’s great advice, what’s the best place to mine quant and best base to stay at and sell it at or get them to refine it at

[prime pine]

I go to OM-1 (down to surface) at Lyria, as you can always be in the sunlight. Then I always transport to Arc-L1 refinery to process it.

Since Area 18 is close, I sell refined there. You can get small bonuses by shopping around, but not worth it to me.

[north oyster]

I think quantainium is always 88/unit

[prime pine]

it is

I meant the refining bonuses

[north oyster]

Oh, yeah

3% at CRU-L1

Which I mine the Halo, so that's perfect for me there

With the new ceiling at Orison, I might be doing most all my work out of the Crusader area

[teal ridge]

How long do you have until you need to get back to arc l1 until the quant explodes

[north oyster]

15min

At best, from the moment you scoop the first ore

[teal ridge]

Is there a way to only scoop quant

[north oyster]

Yes, you get a good crack on a high percentage rock and only scoop 100% pure

[teal ridge]

Would my andromeda be a good ship to transport the quant to A18 ? Or something smaller

[north oyster]

Sure is

What's the SCU?

I use my Taurus

@teal ridge do you have a Prospector that own?

[teal ridge]

I was going to upgrade a ship to get one and I do have the andromeda I could melt and grab the Taurus

[north oyster]

I would not burn your Connie for a different Connie. But getting a Prospector would help you earn good coin quickly

notice edit

[teal ridge]

I use the andromeda for bounties but bounties get boring so I could use it andromeda for bounties and to haul refined quant

[north oyster]

That's a good role for her

[teal ridge]

96 scu

[north oyster]

That's 3 Prospector trips of cargo

The Taurus is about a hundred more in storage

[teal ridge]

How much would that be worth it’s not all about making cash, I need to mix up the gameplay bounties and mining

[north oyster]

Having fun is the key

[worthy scroll]

Money is irrelevant. Do the fun thing.

Too bad that doesn't work in real life, but it's great for low stress gaming.

[teal ridge]

Got me a prospector

[woven moss]

You'll be rich in about a week if you mine twice a day

2 quant rocks a day for a week, collect with a rented herc or something and boom 1.2-2.0mil

[teal ridge]

That’s if I don’t blow up 🤣

[ivory gust]

Yes, because stations have higher gravity than Lyria. MOLE needs to use VTOL to lift up in a 1G environment like stations or planets

[teal ridge]

Are L1 not Arc L1 wide forest?

[meager turtle]

haulin is really bad for money right?

[jovial matrix]

It’s not terrible for money if you have a big ship like a C2/cat/carrack, but the risk involved is what makes it not worth it

You’re spending a lot of money to make a little bit of money back, and in the timeframe between buying and selling you can lose all of it

[meager turtle]

yeah i mean when i see a guide on hauling and see them talking about 20k profit for a run i cant believe it like what is 20k

and thats with medium freighters ofc but still

[jovial matrix]

yeah, its not really worth doing unless you have the biggest cargo ships

[north oyster]

Hauling will see it's biggest change next year since it was introduced in game. 3.18 won't be that change but it will hold the technology to begin introducing a whole new trade system

[zenith maple]

we really need rep based hauling

[north oyster]

That's coming also, it has to

You need that for the monster haulers

[zenith maple]

yeah, the game , even with all its faults and issues, is heading in a good direction

[north oyster]

I concur, though 3.18 might make December a rough month if they don't tighten up the code a little more

They are making way more headway than I ever thought they could though

[zenith maple]

it also makes sense when you think about it, they have been making the tools they need and hiring the people to make the features. Like how they develop the tools to generate planets. It might feel super slow to begin with (lets be honest, 10 years is still 10 years), but the potential for things to really take off is there.

[north oyster]

The new testing tools for builds is making this test cycle way faster, imo

[zenith maple]

yeah, I have big hopes

hopefully 1.18 isnt a complete dumpster fire

[jovial matrix]

mmm yes 1.18

[zenith maple]

I had my booster today, brain no worky

[jovial matrix]

all good lol

[tame crown]

Do anyone know why it is lagging when i am operating the mining laser of mole?? I don't lag else where

[silver sorrel]

interesting...when i go to a trade terminal, I can see ships i no longer have (rentals from IEA)

bug?

[glacial dagger]

The Mole has been having a lot of issues recently, hopefully it will be sorted soon-ish

[glacial dagger]

Defoa bug, I wouldn't try using them for trading

[silver sorrel]

nah i wouldn't just was surprised to see them there lul

[glacial dagger]

Ehh, kinda happens almost every year at this rate

[silver sorrel]

oh and another thing i was curious about

the little presents

says sell at adming.. but i couldn't at the trading console

[glacial dagger]

Ah, the lumaniear gifts

[silver sorrel]

yep

almost every other body in the bunker carries them in their armor

[glacial dagger]

Yeah, they have to be sold in admin terminals, not the trading consoles

[silver sorrel]

what's the difference... are these not the ones inside admin offices?

[glacial dagger]

Ah, sorry, didn't realise you were already in an admin office

They are sold there, but it might not have kicked in jsut yet

[silver sorrel]

i can see them on the list of items, but can't sell

ah k

[glacial dagger]

Wait,can you send a pic of the perminal your using?

[silver sorrel]

not atm, but i'm in everus, walk into admin, theyre's 2 of them in the right

on the right

they do say trading, but there isn't anything else

maybe wrong location

[glacial dagger]

And your defo in the orange admin office, yh?

[silver sorrel]

yep

i'll try later on

[glacial dagger]

Yh, it's probably jsut a case of they cant be sold just yet

I would still stock them up though, I think they go for like, 1k each?

Get a Novikov or pembroke on and store them all in yoru suit, then transfer to yoru local inventory when full and start over again

I like doing it at GH because it's a nice little loop you can do

[silver sorrel]

i keep doing bunkers in minimal armor with ahandgun, getting ready for dat wipe

no room for them lol

[glacial dagger]

Ah, fair enough

[silver sorrel]

it's also more fun

[glacial dagger]

I mean, tbf, with the wipe incomming, i'm struggling to make myself do anythign in the verse unless it's jsut for the hell of it

[silver sorrel]

ikr

[glacial dagger]

Oh, I have cleared a hurston bunker on litterally nothing before, i jsut ran around naked and choaked them all out

Now that is fun and great for keeping you on edge around the AI

[silver sorrel]

haha i didn't try without any weapon, challenge accepted

naked?

[glacial dagger]

Yup

Not even an undersuit

0 protection

Maximum movement

Why have defense when you dont get hit?

[silver sorrel]

😄

[tacit delta]

I am supposed to be able to leave MOLE hovering in Lyria, right?

I have 2 friends and I would like to help them with another lancet

But I feared that it'd fall to its death somehow

[north oyster]

I think the gifts can be sold starting December 11

Stock up

[north oyster]

You have to use VTOL mode

[tacit delta]

What's the gift for?

[tacit delta]

But it will stay in the air, right?

[north oyster]

Yes, with VTOL, you can hover with no issues.

The MOLE does great on Lyria

[plush maple]

My mole tends to rubber band alot during vtol once I start mining

[vestal ravine]

I started last year and turned into a mall rat at NBIS collecting these gift boxes and made $335,000.00. But then they nerfed the value. Now they are back at top dollar. How weird. I suggest selling every day or so but don't collect to many.

[feral holly]

Where do you get the gifts?

[shell sorrel]

how much does running SLAM make?

[ivory gust]

Yeah, the MOLE "bounces" slightly when there's no one in the pilot seat while mining on a moon. Super annoying

[plush maple]

Yeah annoying enough that I never use the mole alone

[ivory gust]

And forcing someone to sit in the pilot seat and do nothing while mining doesn't sound particularly fun for them

[hollow sedge]

Watch youtube or play on your phone, thats what I do

[ivory gust]

Typically when I set out to play Star Citizen, I want to play star Citizen.

[hollow sedge]

You are playing, you're the one who gets the money from mining.

It's a realistic sim game. Mining is a time consuming, tedious activity. It's gonna be the same thing when the Orion comes out

Pilot just makes sure the ship still flies and moves to assist the crew

[ivory gust]

It's still a game, and having someone sit there and do nothing for fifteen minutes isn't fun or interesting.

The MOLE pilot should've had access to one of the mining lasers

[hollow sedge]

I'm all for it honestly. But I tend to multi-task so I sit there and do other things while people mine, which is why I don't have an issue probably.

[ivory gust]

And then because it's a realistic sim game, your crew realize they're doing all the work while you're making all the money and mutiny and kill you

Or worse, unionize and demand benefits including dental

[vestal ravine]

Hello Fartbox: The red/green 1K gift boxes are scattered throughout the Stanton System. It starts officially on the 11th but they are in the wild right now unless its the PTU - not sure. I found the bigger the "city" you look for these the better. That is why I collected all mine at NBIS. They generally spawn in the same spots in different amounts. So I got to know those spots after a few runs so could collect 15 to 28 or so each sweep. Then server jump and start over. If you are a hoarder/pack rat it is a neat thing to do. But the wipe takes the value out of it. Anyway, that's my take on it.

[hollow sedge]

Thats why in my org, I pay all my guys a 1mil wage

Net loss for me but I have like 500mil I do nothing with

[plush maple]

How on earth did you get so much? That's like 2,000 Prospector runs

[hollow sedge]

Trading lol

[ivory gust]

5000 titanium runs in a c2

[plush maple]

That's alot of titanium

If every run was 20 min then that's over 1,600 hours just running titanium which is about 69 days (nice)

[ivory gust]

Presumably lots of runs during the nine tails lock downs we've had this patch for that sweet 1M profit per run

[north oyster]

Before the last wipe after about 18mths, I had close to a Billion aUEC

I use to average over 1M aUEC per hour

I will say that having too much money is a serious demotivator. I think the wipe made the game fresh again

[plush maple]

I'm just still trying to figure how that's possible haha 500-750k an hour is about the best I've done mining and less than that if cargo running- am I severely underestimating how profitable bounties are?

[north oyster]

The game has changed a little over the years. I use to clear over 80K in cargo with a MAX on a short run

You use to make over 200k per trip and no refinery with the prospector

Also, today, I count profit per trip in a Prospector, so I try to average about 250ish K per trip

[worthy scroll]

That's exactly why I don't play for money. I do the things I enjoy and whatever cash I make is a nice side benefit.

[north oyster]

I prefer to set a minimum that I want in my wallet, and then after I get that I go play. That's usually about 30 million

[worthy scroll]

Shoot, I never grind up that much in a patch cycle.

[north oyster]

It's never a grind for me, it's always fun. I'm just very productive with my playtime

[worthy scroll]

Well I used it arbitrarily. I never earn that much. Or, I never have that much on hand. I usually spend money as I get it, if I have a ship in mind I want to play around with.

[north oyster]

Understand, My wiring is that if my wallet is below a certain amount then that is below zero for me in I would rather have my base amount to operate off of

This past patch because of so many challenges instead of 30 million I set it for 10 million and kept the money around that much. I like having extra so I can help new players and do scholarships and stuff

[worthy scroll]

I gotcha. I think the most I ever had on hand this last patch cycle was enough to get a C2.

I don't really socialize in game, I've gotten to where I close chat the first thing when I log in. It's gotten weird over the last year. It's pretty much Barrens chat every time I see what's going on there.

[tall apex]

really hope they sneak in a cargo availability change with 3.18

we will have all this new cool cargo stuff without any cargo to run

[worthy scroll]

There is plenty of cargo to run. It just might not be the cargo you want to run. 😆

I think some of the shortages might see some relief, because I bet a lot of people stop running cargo once they realize their ship is now a piñata and they don't want to hire escorts.

[marble crater]

3.18 will see Cargo runners be the focus for both Piracy and Salvage all wrapped up in 1 package

[real ingot]

pretty much lol

[tame crown]

Guys, i wanna buy another freight ship in pledge store, i got a connie andromeda and a mole, what should i choose?

[mighty prawn]

c2?

[tame crown]

c2 is not for sale now

[topaz coyote]

If you like mining - then go with the mole. If you like everything else go with the Connie.

[fathom mountain]

How do i make profit mining? i rented a prospector last night to try and mine and cant seem to get good money out of it. 5k per turn in and im being semi strict with what i grab

[topaz coyote]

Real mining money is in quant. Can't get that in a rented prospector though as it needs to be modified. You can still make money though by going after Bexalite and refining it. There are many pics here showing the best non-quant things to mine.

[mighty karma]

I was told that I need an admin terminal to sell gems that I mined inside a cave, where can I find that?

[obtuse sand]

pretty much every station has one somewhere inside

where'd you mine the gems? (or i guess where are you at?)

[mighty karma]

Daymar.

I found it and got just 10k auec.

[obtuse sand]

probably could sell them at one of the mining stations

“shubin interstellar mining station” or “arccorp area 141” or something similar to that

[sonic laurel]

Hand mining is the true pain

[teal ridge]

gmain difference between the Andomada and TAURUS.
[8:00 PM]
i know both can do bounties and the Taurus has more cargo and one less turret and less missiles whats the scu diff?

Message #flight-combat-racing

[prime pine]

174 to 96

[tame crown]

guys, i try to mine a rock, but the charge level won't go up even at 100% output

should i wait or just leave?

[native marsh]

@tame crown you may have too large of a rock to do it without using surges or having another laser to help you

[tame crown]

kk thx

[native marsh]

I can pop in if you need another

[tame crown]

thx, i am in asia server so...

[native marsh]

np

[tame crown]

what consumable should i use if a rock is too big to mine?

[prisma scarab]

I prefer Surge and Stampede. Its really down to preference but I find that works. Surge gets the charge level up, stampede speeds through it to break the rock.

[prime pine]

I use these two as well, and throw in an Optimum just in case.

[fathom berry]

o7
I came back after months of not playing, and now my ROC is nowhere to be found. Cant retrieve it, claim it, find it... anything. I don't even know if I own one anymore... what the f happend?

[north oyster]

Was this ROC purchased in-game or one you own in your hanger? @fathom berry

There have been some wipes in the past year and now there will be a new complete wipe coming in 3.18 whenever it goes LIVE

BTW ... welcome back, you've come just at the crux of a massive change in the game. Expect a bumpy ride

[fathom berry]

i got it ingame. someone giftet me the money to buy it and it's been my primary source of income since then

what am i supposed to do now?

[worthy scroll]

Same thing everyone else does. Earn some cash in game, buy another ROC. Use it until the upcoming wipe. Then do it again.

They're extremely cheap in game, 172k.

[jovial matrix]

Can also just rent one in the meantime. Stupid cheap at 4k per day to rent

[last kayak]

How do I get the missions to deliver bow-adorned packages?

[north oyster]

I sent a DM when you get a moment

[north oyster]

I didn't know there were missions, but you can collect them and then sell them at the TDD for easy coin

[last kayak]

Not those

[last kayak]

those https://i.imgur.com/KNUC86a.png

[north oyster]

Interesting, I've not been on LIVE for awhile because of testing another build. Let me know what you find out

[last kayak]

thats the problem i cant find anything

[north oyster]

nothing on Reddit?

[last kayak]

no

[hollow sedge]

Should I get the Caterpillar? Pirate to be specific. I'll be doing cargo runs in it but can it do anything else? Not specifically money making, just anything else.

In the market for a high capacity hauler ready for 3.18

[north oyster]

The Pirate version is from AC and winning that ... you can't really buy it iirc

For hauling, if you love the CAT, then go with that. For me I got the Hercules C2 Starlifter, more storage

[hollow sedge]

I completed pirate swarm and see it available to buy on the store

[north oyster]

ah, FTW, awesome

[hollow sedge]

Was just curious to if there are better and cheaper alternatives. Even at a loss of capacity

[north oyster]

Cheaper as in real world dollars? Or in-game aUEC?

[hollow sedge]

Irl

Though I just realised I'd have to wait until another sale

So nevermind, I think I've already made my decision

Looks cool, carries a ton of cargo. Checks all my boxes

[north oyster]

and it's price is not too shabby along with future expansion

[hollow sedge]

Just wish we'd get fully working lifts on the side of the modules

Pretty sure I've seen videos of it working. As a demo of course

But working nonetheless

Don't know what's holding it back

[plush maple]

Is there a target date for the wipe? I see people talking about it but I haven't seen CIG say anything

[vestal ravine]

I have seen the 3 gift box mission at Mt nbis. It's pretty basic. These sell for 1 k each. Hope this helps.

[north oyster]

Never a "date" per se, it all depends on how testing with Evocati goes. From what I understand there is a massive improvement in the stability of the builds but there are still some pressing issues that could be considered stoppers. Wave 1 should be this week hopefully, if not even today.

[plush maple]

Wave 1? Sorry I'm a little out of the loop haha

Assuming that's an initial release of the version

[north oyster]

My apologies, The new builds are released in different "Waves" depending someone's level with Star Citizen. Wave 1 is for Concierge (those who have spent more than a $1000 on the game) and also Subscribers (those who have monthly subscriptions).

Wave 2 is for the high hour of playtime user

Wave 3 is open wave

[plush maple]

Gotcha, what is considered high hours I wonder

[wintry rune]

Is Evocati closed testing?

[north oyster]

Yes, Evo is NDA testing

[wintry rune]

Nice, thx

[north oyster]

Once it goes to Open PTU, then it hits Open PTU, then it is coming to LIVE very soon

One trick to save having to download the game all over if you were testing it is to rename the folder to LIVE

[wintry rune]

Which folder exactly?

[north oyster]

The Game Folder under Star Citizen

You will have a PTU folder and also a LIVE folder

[wintry rune]

Thank youu

[spring prism]

Best way to catch a pirate off guard ----

Me [Hull C]: Okay, you win. I'll give you my cargo and be off.
Pirate: Excellent.
I mash eject cargo and fly off.

Me [Hull C]: Surprise mother-fudger.
Shoots all the cargo boxes rather than the pirate.
Me: Now neither of us gets the cargo.

Grief the griefers: Don't give them the satisfaction of soft death cargo pirating. Destroy your cargo yourself.

[ takes out Assault rifle in my soft death ship. shoots all the boxes. ]

[teal ridge]

What’s the ultimate location to mine quant?

Best chances of finding quant ?

[ivory gust]

Lyria is the easiest place to find quant since you just look for clusters of rocks--all clusters are quant.
Halo is pretty good too since you can scan the asteroids from up to 12km away

[plush maple]

Assuming they scan in the belt

[last kayak]

the mission is in the personal section

[north oyster]

Ah! Thanks, I hardly ever look in that tab

[last kayak]

same

[hollow sedge]

Hello, I have always done bounties to get my money for like 2 years now playing the game and I want to kinda relax and do cargo. Any runs people could suggest to do after 3.18 comes out?

[worthy scroll]

3.18 is going to be a whole new beast for running cargo, because cargo ships will finally be legitimate targets. The routes shouldn't change though.

[bold yew]

What cargo ships? There is almost no one running cargo right now. I doubt that will change this patch.

The only thing I can guess is maybe getting a miners quant load when he runs back to the main city. That only happens like once or twice every week or so.

[glacial dagger]

Uhh, sorry bud, don't mind me with my nearly 27mil in profits just from running cargo this patch, I guess people really aren't running cargo...

[bold yew]

No, they really are not. Sure there are a few exceptions, myself included. I run it for fun, I trade in things that I don't make a profit in often just because I don't wan to risk it to a crash. What I am saying is the pads are almost always empty. I use to have wait for the good ones, but no one is ever there any more.

It is pretty much the worst and most high risk loop in the game.

I could make well over twice as much doing anything else, and others seem to be doing that. I do it though because well I just like to fly cargo ships.

[worthy scroll]

Tons of people run cargo right now, it's easy money. It's mostly what I do and judging by how stocks are, plenty of people are still doing it. I still see the C2s and Caterpillars doing their thing, hitting the same places I go.

But in 3.18 cargo will be physicalized, pirates will finally have a reason to go after people. Blow up the ship, bust the piñata, loot the cargo. And since cargo "routes" are static, everyone buys and sells at the same places, they're going to be camping those places, hard.

[worthy scroll]

Ages ago it was. Cargo running has been pretty dang safe for a long time now.

[glacial dagger]

It won't be any more, that's for sure. Gonna have to start considering hiring some escorts when moving my more valuable goods around

[worthy scroll]

Yep, exactly. Cargo running is going to have a massive drop off in 3.18. People have been enjoying the easy money for a long time now, but in the patch, they're going to actually have to coordinate with others. Man their turrets, hire escorts, pay everyone. Actually pay attention while they're going to and from. Most people who have been running cargo over the last year or two are going to move on to something else.

Only the players who want to be actual truckers are going to stick with it. Which is fine, that's how it should be.

[teal ridge]

The ole prospector mining is a funny gig, could find a nice rock fast or be looking for an hour 🤔

[copper apex]

Anyone else just getting fucked in arrons halo?

I have found like 12 quant rocks that are unscannable

[ivory gust]

if they're unscannable, they're not quant rocks

[copper apex]

Alot of rocks are not scannable

And they have the red tent

[ivory gust]

in the halo you can tell what type they are or if they're unscannable from 12km out, so you don't need to get close to unscannables

[copper apex]

what is the button for making the scanning range smaller?

Isnt it < and >

[ivory gust]

Technically . and , but yes. It also doesn't directly affect the range, but rather the angle, and a narrower angle gives you more details from farther away

Also make sure you're scanning in mining mode, not scan mode

[bold yew]

Then it just makes me more sad because I do agree with you on the 3.18 thing.

[tame crown]

Do my hydration rate drop faster if i wear armor?

[jovial matrix]

Yes, and heavier armor will make it drop faster

[teal ridge]

I think that’s the mistake I was making in the prospector, I had the mining laser out but I was scanning with the normal scanner, I’m using a YouTuber configuration with the elite controller along with an Xbox chatpad attached to the controller and I’ve no idea how to change from normal ship scan to mining scan and also how to change the scanner degrees from 360 to 2 .. do you know what the key binds are under in keybinds in settings so I can have a look around or Create my own I definitely need to be able to switch on mining scan and adjust the scan degree?

[ivory gust]

I don't think it's possible to be in both mining and scan mode, so if the mining head was out that should be correct.

I can't check the keybindings right now, but you can look at the mouse/keyboard bindings to see what you're looking for.

Scanner ping is tab
Angle changes are , and . (may show as < and >)

[glacial dagger]

You're correct. You have different modes and mining and scanning are two different modes that require different UI

[north oyster]

I hardly ever use scan function until I've acquired the rock I'm going to crack. Ping actually will drop a scan result once you get about 5k or so with a 2* focused ping

[glacial dagger]

You know you can track down and then scan rocks from like, 10-15k away, right?

I only learnt about it like a month ago, but I'm so glad I did

Really helps track the quant rocks down much faster without having to do quite as much flying around

[north oyster]

Yes, thanks, you can ID rocks at about 12k. I'm talking about determining the value of the rock before approach

[glacial dagger]

I mean, if you can scan it, you should be able to see it's mass and percentages before you get there

[north oyster]

You can gauge by the instability long before any other details show up

[glacial dagger]

True, true

[north oyster]

My process is to pivot scan targets of opportunity as I drift, uncoupled, one heading. Allows quick turns, no wasted time on duds and good profit margin

[teal ridge]

I’d imagine mining mode is better than normal scan so I’ll have to find the keybinds and fix the issue

[glacial dagger]

Oh, if your planet side and you want to jsut drift in a stright line ike your in space, put yoru landing gear down 😄

[north oyster]

I mine the Halo almost exclusively

[glacial dagger]

Scanning mode is better for trackign down the items and seeing their rough composition, mining mode will give you a much more indepth detailing of a rocks contents

[glacial dagger]

Same here, it was jsut a side note

[north oyster]

I stay in mining mode the whole time @teal ridge

Keybind for ping angle changes is important for fast results

[teal ridge]

What ping do you use ? 180 and then 2 ?

[teal ridge]

I can see how to change the angle of scan I’m trying to figure out what keybind is to switch from normal to mining scan? With the prospector I deploy mining lazer and scan but I’m not sure if I need to use mining laser out and mining scan

I basically need a button to turn on mining scan and same button to turn it off

Would mining laser out not be in mining scan ?

Is this mining scan mode or just mining mode ? I’m able to adjust the scan angle 📐

[worthy scroll]

The Prospector is automatically in scanning mode while in mining mode.

[teal ridge]

Ok so I only need to adjust scan angles

I usually just do 180 and then 2 degrees to see if I can get two diamonds shape rocks to appear unless I’m doing it wrong?

[teal ridge]

Landed on lyria and got a nice rock straight away almost filled the pros 30.000 quant I’m just learning the ropes but I’m enjoying it more than bounty Hunting

[tiny lake]

So you guys think they're passing out free MPUVs this Christmas so we'll all have em when the Hull C goes straight to flyable in 3.18?

[glacial dagger]

nahh, doubt it. People might get a free PTV or STV, but i doubt it

[tiny lake]

I was referring to the referral bonus

[glacial dagger]

Ah

Ehh, they might

[ivory gust]

No, mining mode and scan mode are two different things.

[teal ridge]

Which mining add on helps break rocks over 6+ mass?

[prisma scarab]

Surge / Stampede is what I use.

[north oyster]

Yes, but unfortunately you have to step to each setting. Often I'll drop down to 90 instead of 180 to limit targets. (sorry for late reply)

[north oyster]

that's a whole never level, it will take some practice and blowing up. There are a number of videos on doing the Big Crack

[ivory gust]

If you're using the Lancet mining head, need two surge modules and a stampede (can go up to 7.5k, a bit harder to use) or optimum (can't go as high but easier to use).

Surge takes some practice to use effectively.

If you use a different mining head, there are some setups that make breaking big rocks easier, at the cost of making the small rocks (including the smaller chunks from big rocks) harder

[worthy scroll]

But you can scan in mining mode. I know they're also separate modes.

[ivory gust]

Yes, you can scan in mining mode, but that's not what you said

For a Prospector looking for rocks, scan mode is useless, just use mining mode

[worthy scroll]

[teal ridge]

Yeah I know this is becoming funny 😆 all I know is I deploy the prospector mining laser and I scan away while adjusting the degree but I find 90 is fine that’s all I know and do and I find quant and rocks 🪨 ez enough I got 7 full quant loads in a few hours

I’d be more annoyed at the fact that what I’m doing is for nothing with a wipe coming 😤

[teal ridge]

When we deploy the laser it’s in mining mode so scan away 🤔

[ivory gust]

Yes

[teal ridge]

It’s a funny subject but people do be confused about it at first, best to say press m and scan away

[worthy scroll]

Yeah, that's why I said going into mining mode automatically puts you in scanning mode as well. Because the Prospector is special in that regard and has the modes linked when you go into mining mode.

[marble crater]

Mining mode uses a different scanner. It's why you can ID quant from 12km out in mining mode & the same doesn't work in the regular scan mode. This all changes depending on the patch but they're not the same scan mode

[ivory gust]

It doesn't "put you in scanning mode as well."

Scanning mode and mining mode are two different things.

You can scan in mining mode, but that doesn't mean you're in scanning mode. The Prospector is not special in this regard. The ROC can do the same thing, as can the MOLE turrets.

[worthy scroll]

The effect is the same. Stop trying to argue about it.

[ivory gust]

You don't even need to be in a mode at all in order to use the scanner ping. The only thing scan mode does is allow you to see details of a target when you're very close by holding down LMB, which doesn't happen in mining mode.

[ivory gust]

The effect is not the same. The Prospector doesn't have access to the functionality provided by scan mode when in mining mode, but that functionality is irrelevant to mining.

Stop spreading wrong information and I'll stop trying to argue about it.

[mighty prawn]

This guy put gadgets all over the rock and cracked it much faster. Can we recover the gadget after it cracked open? or is it chance based?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ts2Ift-yrpI

[ivory gust]

I haven't had luck with recovering gadgets, but some people claim they get them back every time

[teal ridge]

This mining mode thing 🤔🤣 laser out and we can see the details and scan and I make cash 💰

[wind summit]

Man, how did I not know this? I tried this out this morning and it was amazing spotting a Quant rock from 9km away….

Absolutely game changing. Thx all.

[north oyster]

Even though the wipe is coming, the skill set that you've learned will put you in the green real quick.
I call the Prospector the Goose that lays the golden eggs because you can fund and buy anything in the game with her

[north oyster]

It revolutionizes and superchargers your earnings

[teal ridge]

Yeah I’ve leaned a lot over the last few days and know exactly how to use scan and when to use 2 degrees etc and I know how to calculate the mass and percentage to know how much quant ill most likely get from a rock 🪨 and most importantly I own the prospector and andromeda in store so I’m good to go after wipe

Prospector is my new favourite ship and it’s relaxing to go out and mine and getting full loads or nearly full loads all adds up, once give got 3 or 5 orders in and they take a day to process it’s working for you even when you’re off getting more loads or if you’re offline the game is still making you cash so I like the whole making an order at the refinery

My friend yesterday sold 900k worth in one trip so she’s a cash cow 🐮

I’ve a question 🙋‍♂️

If I’m at arc l1 and I have a ship or two that I can fill with quant, is it possible to fly a different ship to Area 18 land and they call in the two ships without technical flying them down and then possibly saving the cargo from 30k s. ?? Anyone ever try that ?

My idea is why fly the cargo to a location when you can fly a random ship and then just call it in 🤔🤔

[fluid fox]

What’s a good place to mine with a ROC?

[wind summit]

i was finding a lot of hadanite on Aberdeen just a bit ago

I think that is the place atm.

[mighty prawn]

Aberdeen or Ariel for Hadanite. You need a prem suit as it is very hot.

[mighty prawn]

When you claim a ship, all the cargo and stowage are gone

[north oyster]

Like Rigel said, there's no short cut. If you claim the ship, it's completely reset as to inventory. She's empty. Since you've spent the time mining, refining and getting your product ready, spending a little extra time making multiple trips is just part and parcel of mining gig.

[cobalt rivet]

Just came back after 2 month break what version we on now

[teal ridge]

Should I replace the andromeda for the Taurus seen as it has more cargo abilities and would be able to do bounties just as good as the andromeda solo

I know the andromeda can carry 9000 a go which I think is more than enough and I think people who see the andromeda might think I’m out doing bounties and I might avoid being attacked, if they see a Taurus they might know it’s carrying cargo or am I over thinking 🤔

[prime pine]

I ❤️ Taurus

[jovial matrix]

Same, taurus is great

[fluid fox]

Let’s say I wanted to start a semi decent mining operation with other players (me being very new to mining unfortunately) giving a budget of 4 million UEC what should I buy/invest in, how much should I give each player to start (100k 150, 200, 75k?) who would be interested in such an operation with me?

[grand sable]

first time mining in the asteroid belt, what materials should I look for?

[teal ridge]

Is there a default key to scan a rocks contents from 11 or 10k out? I usually have to get within 2k to know if it’s quant or something

[rugged axle]

Contents won't show that far. You can tell it's a quant rock by it being a Q. should start showing around 5-6km while at a 2* scan though...

[ivory gust]

Can see q-type from 12km

[jade spade]

my first time Quant mining was definitely an experience... https://youtu.be/wLhIC02Psds

[mighty prawn]

Good job!

[teal ridge]

When I scan in the prospector with the mining laser out, and I point at the rock from a distance, I get scan results as type dolvine that’s what makes me think my scan isn’t correct or I’ll get quant etc but I don’t get laters like G

This is what I get so I’m convinced I’m not using a mining scan, I’m just in mining mode

What is the actual keybind to turn on mining scanner

[ivory gust]

A) To take a screenshot use the "print screen" key and then look in the star citizen screenshots folder instead of trying to use a camera to take a picture of your screen. I can't read anything there

B) There is no "mining scanner." If you're in mining mode, you're using the "mining scanner"

C) You're on a planet, so you can't scan from a distance anyway. That only works in space.

[ivory gust]

see above

[teal ridge]

Yeah I mine on lyria so that’s why I see the actual name of the rock

[ivory gust]

On lyria you just need to fly around pinging periodically and look for clusters of large rocks. All clusters on Lyria will be quantanium deposits.

You don't need to be in mining mode for that. You only need to be in mining mode to see the actual composition of the rocks once you get close

[teal ridge]

Ok I’ll try that thanks 🙏

[north oyster]

It was a version of 3.17 when you paused, it's still 3.17 but now 3.17.4.
3.18 is in Evo being tested and may go to Wave 1 PTU next week

BTW, welcome back

[cobalt rivet]

Nah im not really back just curious to see if anything cool was added to come back to

[misty coyote]

Has anyone seen anything about how the RAFT will work with physicalised Cargo in 3.18?

Namely, popping things into the storage containers.

[stiff pasture]

The raft doesn't have a cargo grid so for 3.18 it won't be affected at all. When the 32scu boxes finally become a thing for physicalised cargo then it will be affected

[misty coyote]

Just wondering about loading it with salvage materials

As part of a team....Vulture and hauler in tandem

[stiff pasture]

Yeah its not going to work unfortunately. The raft will really come into the spotlight when thr hull c arrives because the 32scu boxes

I enjoy the raft. Its a nice little daily but thr lack of space for such things Is a lil sad

[misty coyote]

Aces..

If you can open the boxes up, then they will be able to house a few things right?

[stiff pasture]

You could aways grab the rmc and stick it through the docking collar. I think you could fit a few boxes in the living area

If they could open yeah

[misty coyote]

Eh, if it's going to be a work around, I'll stick with my Lancer for now

They did something similar with the Mustang Alpha box right?

A cheeky little door....

[stiff pasture]

Yeah but the raft crates are going ti be different. They can't even lower off the raft until its cranes are functional

[misty coyote]

It makes sense really...

To be able to house vehicles like other ships, though possible, isnt' going to be ideal.

Because you'll need a crane operator to lower the boxes, then unpack the box, and reverse the process..

Unless the roll on roll off of other ships

If I'm understanding the RAFT crates properly I mean

[stiff pasture]

The raft is purpose build. It's the fastest thing to unload snd reload 96scu of cargo. The whole design was to drop those crates pick up more and just go bsck and forth so it's best to stay that way

[north oyster]

Then probably wait until 3.18.1

[north oyster]

It's design is close to that of a flying crane. Lift and drop

[stiff pasture]

Yeah precisely. It's specialised so they won't likely generalise it more by allowing it to take vehicles around and just access things willy nilly

[lilac geode]

Anyone know if 3.18 is fixing the mole hopping around when solo mining?

[misty coyote]

I can get on board with that...

A tool for each job and all that...

I like that it's not just another interior shaped cargo hauler

[ivory gust]

I doubt it, but we haven't heard either way afaik

[torn shell]

What is the best trading route for c2

[misty coyote]

For any ship its the same... Go to mining post.... Buy Laranite then Titanium... Go to city based trade district...

[north oyster]

There are a number of trade routes. If just starting out, scrape from Area18 to ARC-L1 admin is a quick run

[jaunty grove]

Average per titanium/laranite run will be 70-125k or abouts, depending on trade activity.

One can reasonably complete 3 runs per hour, doing the ariel/lorville route.

[tight latch]

Wipe?

[ivory gust]

When 3.18 comes, later this month or in January

[tight latch]

kk

[pliant matrix]

We're already half December so I'd bet for mid January for 3.18.
They didn't even started public testing it

[teal ridge]

What mining module helps break rocks past 5.9 mass and up? I found a rock with 6.5 mass and 21 per cent quant and I couldn’t break it with a stampede? So what module is the best to break big rocks past 5.9 mass up

[jaunty grove]

Surge and Stampedes

use at your own risk.

[ivory gust]

You need Surge (along with Stampede) in order to break the larger ones. When you use a Surge, the power level of the rock immediately jumps by 40%.

It takes practice, but the goal is to use the Surge charge so you jump straight into optimal without overshooting. You may want to have two Surge modules so you don't have to wait for the cooldown

[jade finch]

How long does it take for a mining outpost to refill a mined resource?

[teal ridge]

Where do I get the surge module

[prisma scarab]

Port Olizar (crusader) dumpers depot has them. Haul a ton to your mining area

[prime pine]

Stampede and Surge as stated, but I also run an Optimum. Was very helpful while I was getting used to the Surge.

[teal ridge]

I have to say I am absolutely loving prospector mining, I didn’t realise at first how nice of a gameplay it is and how ez it is to make millions in a relaxing yet rewarding way, my favourite thing is the fact when you have a full load you go up to the station and place an order for a day or so to be ready so technically the game is working for you when you’re offline doing other things in life that’s something I think is very valuable that I’m making money while I’m offline working or asleep etc. so now the prospector is my most valuable ship to own period

[fallen burrow]

Got a prospector yesterday, tried to get one quantinium rock in before logging, found a rock and tried to crack it, way overcharged it, started flying away for the impending boom, it went boom, and killed my power supply. Fun stuff, would recommend.

[teal ridge]

Well it’s great when you know what you’re doing, it’s not when a noob

[fallen burrow]

I’m gonna try round two today

It’ll be great

For the record I thought it was hilarious I’m not salty at all

[amber terrace]

is Erkul wrong about 300i having 10 SCU?

i see only 8 in-game

[karmic vigil]

I love mining but is it me or it seems Quantanium clusters has become harder to find? You spend more time out there which increases a chance of getting 30k as it has happened to me before many times.... So frustrating. Mining needs some love from CIG. Even single or double Q rock spots have less volume IMO. In the meantime I'm focusing on other more lucrative ventures.

[bold yew]

I was really hoping mining gadgets would be more fun / useful. Maybe others use them?

[limpid vessel]

anyone know whats the good mods for the prospector? cant seem to find any good youtube tutorials on it

[high wren]

haven't mined in the astroid belt in a while, are rocks scanning properly now? is it lucrative like it use to be?

[ivory gust]

Some people use them since they do give you options more than just the three module slots, but to me they're not worth the trouble

[bold yew]

That is what I found as well.

[limpid vessel]

anyone know whats the good mods for the prospector? cant seem to find any good youtube tutorials on it
cuz i cant seem to find it out and the live calculator aint working really well for me as it doesent really make any sense

[prime pine]

lol there are tons of good videos on YT.
General consensus (mostly) is Stampede and Surge. I personally run an Optimum in the 3rd slot.

[ivory gust]

If you mean mining modules, 2 surge and 1 stampede or optimum

If you mean the rest, you want a Spectre quantum drive if you're only going short distances (e.g., arc L1 to Lyria or cru L1 to the belt), or an Atlas drive if you want to travel long distances.

None of the other components need to be changed (other than mining laser obviously)

[ivory gust]

Really don't need to ask again only 10 minutes later when there's been almost no conversation in the channel

[limpid vessel]

i dont really know how to play this game so it doesent make much sense....

trynna figure this shit out

[prime pine]

Steep learning curve, that's for sure.

[ivory gust]

You'll still run into lots of unscannables, but it can be lucrative

[limpid vessel]

so i only need the lancet MH1?

[bold yew]

The thing is the youtube vids on mining are probably the best way to learn mining in this game. There are a lot of tricks that you need that they go over.

[limpid vessel]

i bought the game two weeks ago didnt play for the past 6 days as i was busy and now trynna get back into it again and it is still a lot to take in...

trynna figure out how to make good money

etc

[ivory gust]

That is the only required change, yes

Only 2 weeks in and already owns a Prospector, you're making good progress

[prime pine]

I watched some YT vids by Red Monster SC for mining, really helpful.

[bold yew]

The thing is without watching the guides you will have a hard time finding rocks.

[prime pine]

Any rock under about 5k mass, you can crack with only the Lancet. Anything bigger you'll need mods or help from another mining ship.

[limpid vessel]

where do i buy better engines etc?

cuz i might need a better quantum drive? where do i buy them again?

[prime pine]

Cousin Crow's

No problem, you're welcome; don't mention it 👍

[ivory gust]

!erkul

[wary tusk]

#DPSCalculator

• Calculator • Shops • Ships • Weapons •

[ivory gust]

Or !itemfinder

[wary tusk]

Universal Item Finder

Use the website to search for any item (and where to buy them) in-game.

[limpid vessel]

in the calculator does it show where you can purchase them?

[ivory gust]

Yes

[limpid vessel]

fr?

where does it say that?

[ivory gust]

Select the item you want and the info box says where you can buy it

Or once you've made all the changes click "add non-stock items to cart" (if you're on desktop) and then your cart will show where to buy everything

[limpid vessel]

ahhh cheers

[ivory gust]

It's right there at the bottom of the info area

[limpid vessel]

cheers

got another question though is there a way to not explode? or is it just to be careful?

[ivory gust]

Don't let the power level go into the red

[limpid vessel]

aight

where is the best places to mine for quant?

how do i even find and scan them??

[fallen burrow]

https://youtu.be/elCZURyECrQ

[limpid vessel]

cheers

[vestal ravine]

Hi. Can the Free Max haul 2 ROC's??

[glacial dagger]

The freelancer can indeed move 2 ROCs

If you squeeze them, you can fit 3

[tight bear]

3.18 is soon, and with the physicalisation of cargo, can someone tell me how it works? If I want to fill up my C2, will I have to manually move nearly 700 boxes? If so, will cargo hauling pay more?

[jovial matrix]

Pretty sure cargo will still magically appear in your ship during 3.18

[ivory gust]

Yep, it's still magic in 3.18

Manually loading/unloading will be later

[fallen burrow]

Dude my first time in 4 attempts getting a load of quantinium to the station and I get a server disconnect

pissed

[ivory gust]

If it was a 30k you should get your stuff back--ship will be able to be retrieved at the station when you log back in. Don't claim it; it can take up to 15min for the 30k protection to kick in

Then, assuming you logged back in at a refinery station, just retrieve and then immediately re-store the ship, then head to the refinery deck

[fallen burrow]

I figured my ship would have blew up but luckily it got stored and I now have my first ever load of quantinium refining!

[ivory gust]

Congrats! Yeah, for server disconnects/crashes ships (but not ground vehicles like the ROC) are usually safe

[quiet night]

check the pinned messages in this channel, look for Cross's posts he has a lot of good info on here

[viral heath]

What's the scan angle for roc mining? 180?

[teal ridge]

I think you press full stop and comma to change the scan . ,

[viral heath]

thanks @teal ridge

[humble magnet]

@limpid vessel try the universal item finder here : https://finder.cstone.space/

[humble magnet]

Have any settings changed with prospector: i can only tab scan when I engage the mining head now, i used to be able scan directly...

@fallen burrow what refining method did you use ?

I never thought it would be possible to crack an 8600 mass/ 48% quant rock with the prospector...used 2 well timed surges and a stampede at the end and got it ! Sorry, had to share that !

[rugged axle]

2 prospectors, or 1 prospector with 2 surges has enough power to currently break any rock in the game :).

[humble magnet]

Long live Prospector !

[fallen burrow]

The not Ferron one

[humble magnet]

best yeld with no loss you get by using the dyinix solventation one but it also takes longer....@fallen burrow

[fallen burrow]

Yeah I did dyinix, 6 hours and I was about to sleep so that was perfect

[humble magnet]

you can just go and mine more and more, there's no limit on the amount of jobs the refinery can take, they'll all be there until ….wipe

[fallen burrow]

Yeah I’m just trying to get a handle on mining so I can hit the ground running when 3.18 drops

I’m still real new

Also what does a stampede module do, I see people saying lancet with double surge and a stampede

[humble magnet]

when you're in the green zone of your laser power, activating stampede shorten to half and intensify the laser at that power so you'll finish cracking the rock in very short time.

its good when you know the rock is too big and you can only hold the green for a short time

https://youtu.be/n7ZqQ75VY9I

the pulsating laser is the stampede filling the green bar faster

[fresh flame]

After a wipe do you typically go straight to mining to make a good stack of cash? Do you ROC or Prospector

[humble magnet]

The moment you get a prospector you may not look back at ROC. A prospector can get you up to 300 k or more in one happy trip mining ROC is a lot less than that, cant even remembr how much for hadanite

[fallen burrow]

Thank you!

[humble magnet]

@fresh flamepersonally I go mining and when I have 4 or 5 refinery jobs lined up I go to some bunker missions or other missions maybe trucking. I want to try salvage next...

[fresh flame]

I got so burnt out on trying to find quant. Constant scanning for double rocks and when I’d find them the percentage was low a lot

[humble magnet]

yeah that always takes a lotta patience...I just go in the Aaron belt and try the space if no luck on surface, youre safer in the big space too

[fallen burrow]

Does space tend to be more consistent? I know people like the surface because you can get some real big rocks

[north oyster]

For some odd reason you can crack larger rocks in space over those on the surface of a planet. All the asteroids are below 5.2k anyway in the Halo

In that way, space is more consistent for now until the next tier

[dreamy pine]

i just bought a prospecotr and i need to attach modules and such but it wont work. Pls heli dont know what im doing.

I need help lol

[untold hull]

How’s gem mining? Can a prospector harvest gems or just the ROC?

[untold hull]

Google “Prospector loadout” and get those items.

[vestal ravine]

Hello. It can be done but the gems explode real easy and disappear. Then you have to land and round up any up that survive by hand. Try it on Lyria where there's a lot of flatter terrain but don't expect much success. I tried 3 Aphorite last night and wasted each one lol.

[untold hull]

Thanks! So, ROC is best way to mine gems it seems.

[latent quarry]

any good cargo routes atm for the c2

[nocturne sentinel]

Can anybody give me some beginer tips for using a prospector and actually making profits

[latent quarry]

buy a lancet head

go to belt or lyria

[nocturne sentinel]

i have a lancet head and modules purchased

[latent quarry]

if ur on lyria scan for bundles of 2 or more

if u find 2 or more its guaranteed quant

look for rocks that have over 20% and decent mass

anything 5.5kish and under you can mine without modules

anything over u can use ur modules

[nocturne sentinel]

i got stampede and optimum modules

do i need anything else

[obtuse granite]

Report if you are able to repeat it (to get a sense of how much luck and how much skill such a feat requires) 🤓

[dreamy pine]

i got to a rock and it wont scan what do i do

[humble magnet]

managed to do it a few times now (4 -5 times) but with smaller mass rocks 6 -7000 mass but I did loose my engines in one explosion doing that. you have to gage the time between surges really well depending on the rock resistance. I wouldn't leave such a rock without trying..

[glacial dagger]

HDMS Bezdeck/Lathan. Grab as much Laranite as you can. Fill the rest of your hold with Titanium. Go sell at Lorvile. It's between 100k-130k profit

[limpid vessel]

is this what i need to go mining?

cuz it doesent work for me apparently when trying to mine

is it something i am missing or?

[sage summit]

Hey everyone. I'm trying to understand what location is best for quant mining. I've watched/read tons of guides and see conflicting info. Most guides indicate Lyria as top location, with some asteroid fields following closely behind.
On the other hand, sc-trade.tools website places moons of microTech on top. Who's telling the truth?)

[vestal ravine]

The BIG problem with the MT moons they have very windy conditions making it difficult to even do a cargo run. For ROC mining it's great if you like seeing your ship get blown away. So go try but expect to get your ass kicked.

[nocturne sentinel]

im having trouble breaking this 5500 mass rock with my prospector anything i can do ?

[misty coyote]

What mining head have you got on?

There is a trick.... You need to barrel roll, do spirals... Moving around will hit sweet spots which bump the bar.

Or use a surge module.

Or stampede... One of the 2

[nocturne sentinel]

i split the rock in the optimal zone but the pieces flew everywhere one flew 30m km away idk how

i lost atleast 5000 quant

[ivory gust]

Had you gone into the overcharge at all while cracking it?

[nocturne sentinel]

i did overcharge it a bit but it was in the optimal at the time of cracking

[ivory gust]

Did the overcharge section of the meter have any "fill" left when you cracked it?

[nocturne sentinel]

i dont know but im pretty sure it was a bug cus 30m km is just ridicolous

[ivory gust]

I highly doubt the rock flew 30 million km

[nocturne sentinel]

i saw the location

i swear one piece flew 30m km

[north oyster]

I wouldn't doubt it, you have the ramp that shows up over 30M Km, so it's plausible

[ivory gust]

I know when ROC mining, the gem icon shows up near the sun after extracting, but I've never seen something like that when Prospector mining

[teal ridge]

Anyone know when we’re getting the wipe?

[ivory gust]

When 3.18 drops

[teal ridge]

Yep

[marble crater]

still in EVO PTU so who knows. maybe before Christmas...maybe next year

[hexed veldt]

is it bad i kinda am hoping it doesn’t come by holiday break? i am not looking forwards to the massive surge of piracy with the update

[gray meadow]

anyone looking for another prospector to add to their crew?

[gray meadow]

ship mining>roc mining change my mind

[queen dagger]

no, because its a valid opinion

[gray meadow]

any mining crew looking to add another prospector in their team?

[mighty prawn]

#looking-for-session

[north oyster]

FYI
Star Citizen Alpha 3.18 has been released to Wave 1 PTU Testers! Important note: we are limiting the number of connections and granting access gradually to avoid initial overload, and to isolate expected issues. For this reason, you may find difficulties connecting - hang in there, and thank you for your patience.

[vestal ravine]

FYI - Speaking of pirates and our activities mining OR trading in a 3 speaker Mongrel Squad recent stream the Mongrel speaker said they are going to kill every person/ship they run across. So, in general I think the first few weeks will be hell for us. But over my last 3 gaming sessions have not seen one red ship. (9 hours) The interview with Salt E Mike, Jack Axton and another trader was real informative. Sponsored by Mongrel Squad.

[north oyster]

Jack was on a video about this? Got a title I can look up?

[hollow sedge]

hey guys, where is a good place to buy/sell slam? i've been going to private property but it never has enough stock to fill up the max

[teal ridge]

How much scu space does the Corsair have ?

Was thinking of upgrading the andromeda to the Corsair but I’m not sure if that’s a good or terrible idea 💡

[jovial matrix]

There is no good place to sell slam, it’s a drug that isn’t worth trading

You sell it at hur-l5 if I remember correctly, but the time it takes to sell even 10SCU of the stuff is ridiculous

You can also try reclamation and disposal orinth on hurston as I think they also buy it, but I have no idea how much at a time they’ll buy

[hollow sedge]

what drugs are better?

[jovial matrix]

Etam

You can buy and sell it reliably in 10SCU batches

[hollow sedge]

cool

which ones have the best yield, other than etam?

do you know where one can find an updated list?

[jovial matrix]

Slam, widow, and mace are the top three

Mace you can’t even buy, and widow and slam sell for minuscule amounts at a time, so they’re not worth trading

Etam and neon are the two lowest payout drugs, but can be reliably bought and sold at the right places (assuming not many other people are drug trading at the same time)

[north oyster]

Corsair is 72 SCU. I would suggest waiting a patch or two and then look at buying it in game. It is a fun ship and a freaking monster if you get in front of those guns, but it still needs a little polish here and there. If you love Drake, then go for it

I like my Corsair but it isn't my daily

[mighty prawn]

Just curious, what is your daily driver?

[north oyster]

I have a number of them that I keep on the ready. I love the 325a but if I need a quick spawn I pull an Aurora or Pisces

or now the Cutter

Seeing that I spend my time doing industry like mining (mostly), Salvage (if I don't get jumped too much) or Trade (putting that on pause until we see how the marauders react), My Prospector almost qualifies as my daily, LOL

[jovial matrix]

My vulture is gonna be my daily come 3.18 dropping

[mighty prawn]

325a was my daily driver, but bed logging seemed bugged for me. Every few times, I woke up lodged between the hull.

[north oyster]

Bedlog has been worked on, so with the new system it seems to be polished a little more

Vulture is a fun ship

[jovial matrix]

Have you ever bedlogged in a taurus? The two times I’ve done it, I woke up in the cargo bay wearing a different set of armor than when I logged out

[mighty prawn]

This bugged for me recently. I switched to 400i, and nothing bad happened so far. One time it took me to primary residence, but no weird lodged between hull thing in 400i so far

[north oyster]

This new patch is going to be way different in a surprising number of ways. But bedlog has been a focus

I enjoy the 400i a lot also, but it's my LTI token for my Hull C, LOL

[mighty prawn]

Did you get any good CCU chain discount on 400i, I am trying to build one up from my 325a in next year's Invicatas

[north oyster]

I got the 400i WB when first concepted, so it came with a good discount

I normally buy the WB CCU offering each time (usually about $5 or so). That way you have a path that often will result in pretty good savings regardless of the ship you're going for

[mighty prawn]

Yeah, I did not know about this $5 thing. I learned it way late into this past IAE.

Otherwise, I would have gotten that $5 to 600i from Prowler

[north oyster]

I did, LOL, got two I think

As it's been said, the CCU Game is the true SC game going