industrial-professions

[mellow grail]

if its around 0.8 then it is ROC sized

essentially if the rock is about the size of your head, it is hand minable. large as you or a bit bigger, Roc, if it is boulder sized, it is ship minable

[loud mural]

or you'd need a mining gadget i guess

[ivory gust]

A) Hand mining is a massive waste of time anyway, you make very little money for a lot of work
B) When scanning for hand mineable rocks, you're looking for gem clusters that only ping within 1km. If it pings farther away than that, it's ROC sized

[mellow grail]

I think mining gadgets are for very large ship minables

[loud mural]

yeah and it's way too expensive

but yeah i feel like they weren't that big, like they would be leg sized

x)

[mellow grail]

hand mining can be lucrative enough, especailyl if you combine it with a cave mission, make sure you have the call to arms quest as well so when there are enemies in the cave, you get credits for killing them, loot them, hand mine anything in the cave and then find the lost person. all told you can rake in some bucks that way. also some of the enemies carry ores on them

[loud mural]

yeah i guess i'll stick to bunker missions

[mellow grail]

Up to you. I like doing bunkers a lot but sometimes caves are a nice change of pace and add up as well

[ivory gust]

The gems you loot from enemies in caves is worth 10x the stuff you mine. Mining is a waste of time there vs just looting and moving on to the next cave

[mellow grail]

Again upi to the person. I don't disagree but I also dont specifically just go for biggest payday. Just do what I feel up to at that time and if I am already there I figure it isnt a waste to me

so yes if you are solely going for auec/hour then yeah skip the handmining

[north oyster]

If you'd like to lock in a RSI Galaxy for future refinery or other gameplay. Pick up a CCU from the Valkyrie (regular) to Galaxy for $5 USD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSbVtqqSrJU

[pliant matrix]

taking a galaxy is a great way to have a carrack for at least two years for half the price

[idle anvil]

yeah that was pathetic

not even 3k, I think

[ivory gust]

Grats on your haul

[clear peak]

for some reason no astroids i come up to are scanable or minable. any way to fix this?

[ivory gust]

Switch servers

[clear peak]

also im mining in arc l3 for quantanium. is that a good spot?

[ivory gust]

No

[clear peak]

this says it is

[ivory gust]

Well all right then. General recommendations are Aaron Halo or Lyria

[topaz raptor]

Go to lyria

[clear peak]

is there an easy way of getting to the belt with out flying from arc to hurston?

[ivory gust]

I've never personally tried ARC L3 A

I found most of the Lagrange points to be fairly crap for mining, rocks are too spread out

[topaz raptor]

Follow this honestly it’s a god send

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/572706150286622720/1045766181015007253/3.16.1-LIVE-Rel1-Refinery_to_Aaron_Halo_Mining_Routes.pdf

I used it for the first time and found quant fairly quickly

[ivory gust]

https://cstone.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes

[topaz raptor]

If you want I’ll be on tomorrow mining you could come along and I can show you places

[idle anvil]

How do I know which ones are E and S type, or do I just scan them and look at the contents?

ah it says it in mining mode but not scanning mode

[ivory gust]

Scan with mining mode out

There's no need to ever use the scan mode in a prospector

[idle anvil]

How can I jettison cargo? Is that not possible with the prospector's pod things?

ergh this issue is getting annoying
<#industrial-professions message>

[idle anvil]

welp, I could not find a single good rock in that asteroid field.

I was also probably going in circles, and my session ended off with a 30k error. so far it seems like roc mining is far more consistent.

[ivory gust]

Only possible if you have quant that is about to explode

[ivory gust]

I mean, the ROC loses everything in its hold on a 30k, prospector at least gets to keep what you found so far

[warm lark]

can someone help me starting to mine

like in game

[zealous quiver]

so I grabbed an orion today. For the time being since I have nothing to transport refined materials, I was looking at grabbing a cutter for the LTI and then melt it into a hull-a so I have something to haul around my refined mining minerals. Good idea or bad idea? mostly looking for a "relatively cheap" freighter thats good for its price I guess

[hollow sedge]

Well for the time being you also don't have an orion. But cheap freighter the black is always a good option.

[zealous quiver]

-also should note I plan to eventually melt that into probably a combat ship since I won't need something like that with the orion.

[hollow sedge]

Then I would say black as it has good cargo, and is below most fighters

[zealous quiver]

I have seen people say just rent a cutlass black to move refined materials, so you're right I think I'll go with that then

thanks 😄

[prisma scarab]

Constellation better depends on how much you got to move

[pale leaf]

So In the carrack what are the cargo pods used for? Any special features or are they just empty rooms?

[ivory gust]

Hull A is small and slow. Better to spend a bit extra for a Freelancer if you can, for same space but faster and more versatile

[ivory gust]

Currently just cargo

[ember star]

They hold cargo

[pale leaf]

Ic thanks

[zealous quiver]

gotchya thanks for the info!

[signal ledge]

Is mining asteroids glitched rn?

[ivory gust]

In what way? Currently there's a lot of "Ghost rocks" that aren't scannable, is that what you mean?

[idle anvil]

it seems like it. often can't scan asteroids, and I think I heard it's server side.

[signal ledge]

Not sure. I asked in chat what mining head should I get for my Prospect and some guy told me it was glitched.

[ivory gust]

Lancet mining head. Lancet MH1 for the prospector.

Asteroid mining does have some issues currently--many asteroids don't spawn, but you can tell which ones are unscannable from up to 12km away, so you don't need to waste your time with them

[idle anvil]

wait really?

[signal ledge]

Appreciate it! Ill let everyone here, know what I find about them "being glitched"

[ivory gust]

Yes. Watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz8TOCUa0Ms

[signal ledge]

should i use that video above if Im mining?

[ivory gust]

If you're mining asteroids, yes

[idle anvil]

gotta love how mining equipment knows which power levels are optimal but doesn't contain the capability to control the power on its own

[hollow sedge]

But then how will you get fun minigame?

[mighty prawn]

Do you mean, if someone mines in prospector and if there was disconnect, willful quit or 30k, the prospector keeps its cargo?

[ivory gust]

Only 30k. Willful quit or other disconnect may lose the cargo depending on whether the disconnect protection kicks in

Well, willful quit will definitely lose the cargo. Disconnect, it depends

[ivory gust]

AI is illegal in lore because it tends to result in people dying

[idle anvil]

It's not even ai

just... power too high, turn power down. power too low, turn power up.

[indigo fox]

Can someone give me some advice on cargo hauling? I’m struggling to figure it out. I have a carrack. I tried using the SC trade tools webpage to give me the best route. I went to a place it mentioned and I was getting shot at there… so I’m unsure where to pick up cargo that will provide a decent income if I sell

[ivory gust]

Go to HDMS Bezdek or HDMS Lathan, buy all the available Laranite, fill the rest of your hold with Titanium, then head to Lorville and sell at the TDD console

[brazen owl]

Hey is Dov ore bugged?

When I fill my bag with dov so about 136 gems, it sells for 150k but the math doesn't add up. Cuz 1 ore is worth 130, so I should be getting about 17k. So is that a bug or am I missing something?

[indigo fox]

Sounds like a good bug if it is one

[final drift]

can a roc fit in a misc freelancer MIS

[jovial matrix]

Looted dolovine sells for much much more than normal, its weird but nice

[brazen owl]

@jovial matrix So if I mine it it will be less?

[jovial matrix]

yes

[brazen owl]

lol cool

thx

Can the lazer and the beam of the Roc be upgraded?

[jovial matrix]

nope

[brazen owl]

sad

[jovial matrix]

no need to upgrade it though, it can mine any ROC mineable rock anyway

[brazen owl]

ya, just wanted to speed it up for the Had mining

[jovial matrix]

yeah, cant make it go faster sadly

[brazen owl]

so would buying a roc be worth it? or should I just keep renting it?

[jovial matrix]

Id say just rent it

[brazen owl]

I mean I don't know if buying it to upgrade it would make it any better

[jovial matrix]

if you wanna buy it then its no big deal, but renting is far cheaper

nothing on the ROC that you can upgrade will make it better than a rental

[brazen owl]

got it, thank you!

[jovial matrix]

yup 👍

[ivory gust]

Dolovine looted from enemies and boxes in caves sells for 10x the stuff that you mine, per unit

[brazen owl]

@ivory gust is there a place that drops them other than the cave on Daymar?

[jovial matrix]

there are abndoned outposts on microtech that also have the lootable dolovine

[ivory gust]

Any cave mission anywhere. I usually did mine in the Hurston area

[brazen owl]

I got the game 3 days ago so I am kind of just learning about different places for loot

havn't been to any cave other than Daymar

also I havn't gotten any cave missons

[ivory gust]

They're in the bounty category, and you'll need to have unlocked missions for that planet first

[brazen owl]

time to go bounty hunting then, thank you@

[ivory gust]

Look for ?RT missions that specifically call out a cave in the description, or "evict illegal occupants" (or similar) missions

[jovial matrix]

yup

[brazen owl]

just took these 2

is that what you mean?

[jovial matrix]

the apprehension certification will send you after a player with a crimestat, dont do that if you arent ready to PvP

the other one though is good, do that one

it'll have you fight a few NPC's, and once you complete it, you get access to LRT's (Low Risk Targets), which are the first tier of NPC bounty missions

[brazen owl]

oh lol, thanks for the heads up, I am def not ready for that

[round oak]

anyone want to show me how to mine and make money mining?

ive never tried it

[ivory gust]

There are several good tutorials on YouTube that may help

[visual karma]

hey citizens whats the trade these days for catterpillar size ships

starting capital not an issue

[viscid pine]

I have a question.. i fly with misc prospector and went to a planet found some gemstones like handanite , mine successfully break the rocks .. change to extraction mode but the gems wont come at my ship and i end up going down picking them one by one .. is that normal or bug , lag ?

Also if a rented prospector can i change the mining module

[ivory gust]

#industrial-professions message

[ivory gust]

Gems (hadanite, dolovine, aphorite) are for ROCs or hand mining tools, not ships like Prospector or Mole. They can't pick up the gems.

You want to look for the bigger ore deposits with a Prospector. With a rented one you're looking for rocks with Bexalite, borase, or taranite to make the most money.

[ivory gust]

No

[warm sundial]

what composition percentage of ores is worth mining?

[rocky fox]

25/30% for the chosen one, but >15/20% will do

(there are a few great videos out there, I can only say good things about Red Monster SC and his mining series) 😄

[wraith ice]

Do yall think the drake corsair is a good cargo ship to use?

[misty coyote]

It's fine.... You'll put 400k of your own money into it, to get 20k profits

Use it on bounty missions.

[idle anvil]

gotta love how the most valuable commodities suggested by https://sc-trade.tools are drugs. Looks like I'll be trading astatine.

[misty coyote]

It's selling that's the problem... You'll dock and sell a quarter of your cargo then have to wait.

[idle anvil]

I'd consider the legality of the drugs to be the biggest issue. I'd prefer to transport the radioactive material instead. Feels much more space-y anyway 😄

seems like neon may be the better option once I have more money. I've only got about 100k auec to start.

actually it varies depending on how long I want to wait.

How profitable can roc mining be? I think so far I've gotten about 40k per hour on wala (arccorp moon).

[rocky fox]

150k/hour according to a few videos, but I'm new and I always explode my ships so have to try that yet

Also: my beloved Prospector will be gone in couple of minutes 🥺

"my" = free trial from IAE

[idle anvil]

lol yeap

[idle anvil]

really? you sure that isn't ship mining?

[rocky fox]

i think! check Red Monster SC videos

I'll find the link later

ah no, maybe he meant 150k for a full cargo load? mmmm

[ivory gust]

Wala is not good for ROC mining. You want Aberdeen, Arial, or Daymar.

[idle anvil]

alright

[ivory gust]

Note that you'll need the Pembroke armor (can buy from refinery stations or a couple of stores in cities) for Aberdeen. Arial you'll want at least medium armor (I use the Aril set), or the Pembroke. Daymar you can just use flight suit and helmet

[sonic laurel]

is a "ghost" painted multi tool worth anything?

[idle anvil]

yeah, but you can fill it in an hour if you do it well enough. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-Wz7yZ-_KY

[ivory gust]

Full load ROC of hadanite is 270k

[rocky fox]

jeez, I'll need the money!!! even if a reset is "coming soon"

I'll see what I want to do

I'm really clumsy

now I'll try the Cutlass Black and the ROC... After dinner. Let's see how they go.

any plan to fix inventory for, like, gems not stacking (IIRC they don't) and a hotkey to move items from an inventory to the other?

as suggested by someone, I'm probably going to save money for a Cutlass Black and a ROC to start my career and save money for the Prospector. And, here and there, do missions of every type.

BUT... The Cutlass is a 3-person ship. Am I going to have issues with it? Like, in combat or anything? I'm a Solo player for now.
Also, sorry if it's the wrong channel: I really understand nothing when there are 150 different channels

[misty coyote]

Cutty will be fine solo, just better with a buddy.

The person ship count is just birthing rather than minimum players

[rocky fox]

what's birthing? 😄 anyway, ok thanks!

[rocky fox]

I like the look and how it flies... Good, good.

[misty coyote]

You can't go wrong with a Cutty...

It's not as fighty as other fighty ships.... Nor hauly than a hauly ship.

It is a great vehicle ferry though

[rocky fox]

well, I bought the Cutter as starter pack (I like it), now I only need to save in-game money for more ships 😄 If I'm lucky the Cutter will be a good all-around ship for me. And it looks gorgeous.

But yeah, I need something to mine and carry refined mats

and to collect gems

[misty coyote]

Go to Everus and Rent a Cutty for 27k and a buy a Pembrook and helmet for 15k Go to HUR L1 and rent a ROC.

Head to Aberdeen and mine your bottom off.

[rocky fox]

when the event and the free trial will come to an end (2/3 days?) I'll be left with ONE ship 😄

[rocky fox]

I like that plan, yeah, it's what I'm going to do 😄

[rocky fox]

non-stacking gems will be my PITA

[misty coyote]

Don't forget the Pembrook... Aberdeen is over 200 degrees

[rocky fox]

ye lol, weather in this game is a killer

[misty coyote]

And don't forget snacks..... Mining is thirsty work.

[idle anvil]

yep, no sodium powered hazard protection in this game.

[cerulean lichen]

Lyria pretty calm would have thought it would be swarming with pirates during this event.

[royal herald]

guys is the hull-A a capable "starter" cargo ship? i was thinking about pledging one.

[idle anvil]

do you already have a game package?

[royal herald]

yeah a 100i why so?

[idle anvil]

just making sure

it could probably be alright, but I don't like how it flies

[royal herald]

its a bit sluggish but not that much compared to others ships

[royal herald]

was also thinking about the freelancer is the hull better?

[idle anvil]

I think the hull a may be the 2nd slowest ship I've flown

[royal herald]

i did flow a hh and a reclaimer so its not as bad

[idle anvil]

I've also flown a reclaimer, that's the slowest ship I've tried, but even some medium ships like the constellation taurus I tried are faster than the hull a. I'm not necessarily saying that's what you should get, it's just a comparison.

[royal herald]

yeah the taurus is way out of my budget but if i had to choose between the hull a and the freelancer for cargo what should i go with?

[idle anvil]

maybe a freelancer. it has a tad bit more cargo space and a lot more firepower.

[royal herald]

i do have a issue with the freelancer tho, its interior is really old now and its a super common sight unlike the hull a so im kinda lost atm

[misty coyote]

The Hull isn't going to hold against a Lancer, until the cargo loading becomes a thing.

[royal herald]

well since its a pledge i can pledge and wait for that cargo refractor

[marble crater]

Freelancer is currently a much more well rounded ship than the Hull A but if it's a pledge just get what you like

[ivory gust]

Even for just cargo, Freelancer wins over Hull due to speed. Freelancer can be well into the second run before the Hull finishes the first. The hull is slow.

[ivory gust]

If solo consider a Nomad for ROC mining instead of a Cutlass

[rocky fox]

uh ok, thanks for the suggestion... it has smaller cargo, I see, and maybe the Cutlass would serve well even when I'll have a Prospector... But I believe money won't be an issue in the end, right?!? 😄

added to my bookmarks so I'll check it later 😄

[ivory gust]

Cutlass isn't really great for hauling Prospector loads, you'd want something larger like a Freelancer max or taurus

[rocky fox]

ohhh ok

[ivory gust]

If your aim is Prospector mining, just rent cutlass roc until you have 2.2M or so to buy Prospector, then rent cutlass or Freelancer or Andromeda to deliver refined ore until you have enough to buy your own hauler

[wraith plume]

whats the best moon to go mining at hurston?

[north oyster]

MAX is one of the best for ROC mining. Down side of using nomad is always having to back it in. Cutlass is a decent ROC hauler

Aberdeen

[wraith plume]

thx

[north oyster]

But need Pembroke armor

[rocky fox]

Prospector mining is my aim right now, ye 🙂 and missions when I am bored! 😄 which missions... not sure 😛 so far I've had fun in bunkers, the only delivery mission I have, and not much more

[wraith plume]

ehh ill be alright thx tho

[ivory gust]

ROC, Aberdeen or Arial
Prospector, none, go to Lyria

[wraith plume]

yea i got none of that just a multi tool and no money to rent anything

[north oyster]

Go to Daymar if you're not getting the armor

[wraith plume]

aight thx

is magda good?

[ivory gust]

Magda is a distant 4th place behind Aberdeen, Arial, and daymar

[wraith plume]

ik

[rocky fox]

I'm avoiding most known places because I'm not very lucky and I often get attacked by players or NPCs (can't tell), but moons around microTech do not seem that great 😄

[ivory gust]

There's a reason that the recommendations exist

[rocky fox]

I mean: earlier a red appeared while I was in orbit, I wanted to run away but changed my mind, turned back to FIGHT and he told me "son of a..." so I guess it was an NPC 😄

[north oyster]

I've had NPCs attack me when I've dropped to the surface from random orbital markers, so they will spawn on your just about no matter where (except Halo)

[rocky fox]

ah ok, interesting
wait lol, no NPCs in Halo?

[north oyster]

Never had one spawn in all this time I've mined there

[rocky fox]

ohhh

they must have crap radars 😅

[north oyster]

I've had a target or two show up at a great distance, but I didn't go investigate

[idle anvil]

I can't seem to find raven's roost on calliope, is the trade tools site outdated or am I missing something?

[wraith plume]

also can a scanner find small rocks?

[idle anvil]

"avoid hidden locations" is on

[north oyster]

it's a hidden location with the tagline "those who trespass will be seen nevermore"

[rocky fox]

ahh just like my grandma house

[ivory gust]

"Avoid hidden locations" checkbox seems broken

If you're trying to run drugs though, most places to get them will be hidden afaik

[north oyster]

Control - F5 will force a refresh of the page and wipe stored cache

[wraith plume]

can i scan small rocks with a ship?

[idle anvil]

hm, alright

[mighty prawn]

Can Freelancer MIS carry ROC?

[north oyster]

No idea on that one

[idle anvil]

I think the trade tools site lied to me. I lost money going from Shubin Mining Facility SMCa-6 to Rayari Anvik Research Outpost.

[ivory gust]

trade tools shows base prices, in game prices can fluctuate. What cargo did you trade? Did you actually sell all of it or do you have some left?

[idle anvil]

astatine and flourine, and I did sell all of it

[idle anvil]

why does seemingly everything have overstock plasma fuel for at or near 0 uec? is that a bug?

[idle anvil]

or maybe I didn't... huh.

[rocky fox]

ok, not sure the Cutlass/ROC combo is for me... I had big issues parking the ROC inside the Cutty, and now I can't even take it out! OMG, it's stuck.

Also... it's a pain, each time... mmmm nono

I am a simple mind

need simple task

do task, have banana

and now I need to set the ROC free 😛 I'll watch a tutorial

[modern agate]

Should fit fine?
You can try a nomad I guess, it's basically a space pickup truck

[pliant matrix]

Nomad is even clanky than cutlass with roc tbh
For cutlass you just need to enter very slow and straight. Also with your mining arm retracted

[rocky fox]

it's me being noob at parking...

I want to cry: I completed 2 refining jobs and sent materials to ship; BUT ship was still in the process of being claimed and sent to the refinery station

result: no more jobs and no materials

wasted 1 day of mining...

one day of ME, mining... that is, a tiny amount

but still

[pliant matrix]

that's the learning curve don't worry. I claimed a ship full of titanium. And not a small one a C2. It's around 300k lost for just me spacing out

[rocky fox]

eh ok but I've been playing for 4 days and I earned only 20k so far

this is going to take forever

sigh...

also, this is just another bug, not something I should know or learn 😄

if the ship is not available, game should not allow me to transfer items

[pliant matrix]

imagine the game is way more playable now than couple years ago when I started xD

Also it's weird I claimed a ship to put my refined mats in couple days ago and I received the ship with stuff inside when I retrieved it

[rocky fox]

WAIT, I see boxes inside! OMG fingers crossed

[pliant matrix]

it's was a close 1-2 min delay but still

[rocky fox]

what a patience you guys had back in the days! 😄

[pliant matrix]

imagine a time where just taking stairs was dangerous xD

[rocky fox]

yes if I enter the Cutlass I see boxes inside it! let's see if I can sell something!

[pliant matrix]

you'll if it's there it's sellable

[rocky fox]

what do you mean, I DIED on a ramp out of a ship, yesterday, eh!

[pliant matrix]

yeah I hurted myself going out of storage room on arial today. Didn't died tho but seems that happens sometimes again

[rocky fox]

xD

damn, everything in this game wants to kill me

[pliant matrix]

Space is a dangerous place. Wait for players to want to kill you xD

[rocky fox]

or keep me poor

[rocky fox]

ah yes, had 2 or 3 yesterday too

and an NPC, but now he's full of holes (I can shoot back, eh!)

tomorrow I'll go back to Prospector mining... hope I'm good enough to get the money back in a day! I usually die in fireworks

[pliant matrix]

you wont blow up if you come back right after you picked some quant. Don't push your luck for a little bit of travel

[rocky fox]

ohoh I just explode for different reason

even trying to dock

xD

[jovial matrix]

Where did you get that number my guy? It’s always been about 210-220k at the most, I’ve never had a full ROC of hadanite sell for 270k

[jovial matrix]

Freelancer is better. If you’re looking to pledge a ship to cargo haul in, either pledge a freelancer max (that’s the smallest cargo ship that can make profits worth your time), or go big and get a C2/caterpillar. It’s not worth it to pledge a “small” cargo ship imo, because you’re going to make so little money with it that it’s going to take you forever to afford a bigger ship ingame

So either pledge a decent cargo ship or just buy a good cargo ship ingame, don’t pledge a bad cargo ship

[jovial matrix]

Not really

[north oyster]

A full Prospector of Quntainium is roughly 275K aUEC. A full ROC is right at 200K aUEC, no idea the haul with a DS though.

[jovial matrix]

yeah

man it would take a good while to fill a DS with hadanite

the payout would be really good though

[north oyster]

ROC mining in the Cutlass is rough, but it works. ROC mining in the Freelancer MAX is easy peasy and makes it fun.

I get nervous with anything over 50% of a regular ROC, I can imagine the stress of trying to fill a DS and live to tell about before a server crash.

[jovial matrix]

Fr

[wraith ice]

Should I stick with my RAFT or go coursair?

[north oyster]

Corsair is a totally different class of ship. RAFT can only do trading

[wraith ice]

That's true

[north oyster]

Corsair is a fun ship. She's big but brings a lot to the game

The Corsair, Connie, 400i are sort of the same class ship

And maybe the MSR is in that class also

Solid mid-size ship

[wraith ice]

Hmm ok yea I mostly do trading and box missions I only have the raft right now

But I was thinking of getting the coursair since I only lose some scu

[north oyster]

RAFT as an everyday ship does seem a little limiting, imo. The Corsair would offer more options

[wraith ice]

Yea it was fine for a while until the elevator broke

Which made things.....hard

[north oyster]

I certainly understand that, that's why buying in-game a Pisces or other small runabout might be good. Cheap and easy to get, fast to claim

For me, I would choose the Corsair, but there is a price difference to consider also.

[wraith ice]

Yea was thinking of getting the cutty as a little rider for box's missions

But man that coursair is so nice

Was just trying decide weather to get it or not since IAE is closing soon and idk if the ship will stay year around

[north oyster]

The Cutter game package is a fantastic deal. I'd like to think the Corsair would be a year round offering. The advantage of IAE is the insurance and also the special warbond offerings

[wraith ice]

Yea your right I'm just goin get a cutter and keep my raft

[north oyster]

Cutter alone (no game package) is $40, so that's an even better deal

Remember, CIG are masters a FOMO manipulation.
FOMO = Fear of missing out

[worthy scroll]

It's an incredibly powerful marketing too. Effective. So they use it. But only you can prevent FOMO fires. Use your noggin.

😄

[north oyster]

I did pick up some nice WB CCUs. The offerings were not great this year, but with the new RSI Galaxy, I grabbed two $5 CCUs from the Valkyrie to Galaxy to hold on to.

[pliant matrix]

I've been doing it in a taurus. That elevator makes things very simple tbh since it fit to almost any ground out of cliffy ones

[north oyster]

The Taurus is, to me, the most functional and best Connie going. It makes a good ROC escort, though it is a little large for me to use all the time. That's why I normally default to my MAX over my Taurus.

[jovial matrix]

I definitely like my taurus

[pliant matrix]

I like big ships tbh. can't wait to wander alone in my galaxy like a lone space explorer xD

[north oyster]

You might want to pick up an inexpensive CCU from a ship to the Corsair. That way you lock it into price (you don't even have to own the donor ship). The Terrapin to Corsair Warbond is $5. It locks you into the savings of the new ship (and LTI). That's better than $100 CCU for the RAFT to the Corsair.

[buoyant isle]

what mining heads do I need for mole?

[rugged axle]

lancet mh2

[ivory gust]

From confusing it with a full Prospector load, obviously

[jovial matrix]

Makes sense

[full mantle]

Hey mate, the mole had some issues with the ore not being registered in the hold cortrrectly and they were waiting for a fix to come through.

Not sure if that has hapopened yet or not

happened

[full mantle]

We have just been using the out of the box fit though due to the amount of laser power you have on one target.

[ivory gust]

That was fixed a couple patches ago

Mole works fine now, although if you don't have someone in the pilot seat when on a moon it still "bobs" up and down constantly which can be annoying and/or vomit-inducing

[hollow sedge]

ayo im planning on becoming a full time trader cuz i found out that trading larinite to lorville on a carrak is insanly profitable but i feel like i could acomplish more. anyone got any tips on where to find an abundance of larrinite to haul from ome place to another, ship reccomendations, etc?

[glacial dagger]

You will almsot never find much laranite in one location because it's such a popular resource for trading. I reccomend buy as much laranite as you can in 2 sitting, then top your cargo up with Titanium. In a C2 that's anywhere between 100k - 130k profit 😄

[hollow sedge]

wdym 2 sittings? (sorry im just dumb :/)

[glacial dagger]

sorry, 1 sitting

And by that I mean go there, buy what you can int he moment, leave

[hollow sedge]

oh alrighty

btw when buying larinite at an outpost

when they run out of stock can you not go back to buy more :/

[hollow sedge]

or do you have to go to different outposts every time

[glacial dagger]

Nahh, I do one outpost and jsut keep on running it. By the time I get back, it will have refreshed a bit and jsut rinse and repeat

if the titanium does run out at a location,t hen I move to the other one

[north oyster]

The **Ghost of Laranite ** just won’t die

[shell sorrel]

(...) on mining range for mole and unable to scan

whats the fix?

[north oyster]

Just remember that there is a full wipe for 3.18

[shell sorrel]

yup

[glacial dagger]

Currently, relogging, unequipping and re-equipping the moling head and apparantly EVAing out of yoru ships comms and getting back in can fix it

[north oyster]

You can’t do the same type of scanning with Mole as the Prosecutor unless you have a second person

Solo mining in a Mole isn’t a fun time (to me)

[dusk lagoon]

how much does the best cargo ship cost that i can buy with ingame money?

[rugged axle]

thats why most mole pilots head to lyria. your not looking for a single q rock. your just looking for 2 or more contacts to come back.

[glacial dagger]

The C2 and it can be bought at the following locations...

[dusk lagoon]

okay thanks

[tiny lake]

Sigh. Gib cargo hauling service beacons

[glacial dagger]

Bruh, gib custom beacons that we can just mark down the co-ordinates for...

[tiny lake]

Map and AR updates are on the roadmap to be complete in mid December. Doubt it'll make it in 3.18 withiut evo testing, but 3.19 may have personal AR markers

[idle anvil]

bulk cargo hauling contracts would also be nice instead of just relying on trading

[tiny lake]

Yeah, that seems like it might make a bigger engineering footprint than just adding missions that pay 4k to deliver 10 scu of a commodity to a specific admin office at t0 rep like a low threat service beacon

For a game in a perpetual alpha I'd apprecaite a few more gameplay loops.

Moon to admin with laranite over and over is a little lame.

Ofc quantum economy is supposed to be done in june so I doubt they'll put any resources on it

[idle anvil]

yeah, then higher rep contracts would offer larger amounts of cargo for higher pay, assuming you have the cargo space for it

if you don't have the space, then you can still increase your two but you'd only have access to the level that can fit in your ship.

[main grove]

Whats the chances of the Hull-C going up In price at launch. Think of upgrading to the It for the C2 instead of upgrading to the C2.

[idle anvil]

not sure, but I think I heard that ship prices are cheaper before launch.

[tiny lake]

Don't all ships go up in price at launch?

[main grove]

Not sure.

[tiny lake]

Corsair jumped 35 bucks

It makes marketing since. Cash in on hype. I would certainly expect it to happen. CIG knows how to market

[main grove]

IAE is a nightmare for me. Its the time that I can't make up my mind whats ship to use til the next event. I live on the site trying to figure out what cargo ship I want and what fighter.

[tiny lake]

Timer on it would make multiple jumps difficult at least, maybe impossible. But certainly something that would spice up hauling

[tiny lake]

Max and superhornet both have wb ccus today

[main grove]

Not spending anymore cash. Only trading with credit

[idle anvil]

maybe. a game I play called naev also has timed delivery missions and those tend to pay better than ones that aren't.

[tiny lake]

I'm remember Escape Velocity in the 90s. Had the same thing.

God that was a great game

[proud jasper]

how much cargo does the reclaimer carry?

[idle anvil]

yeah, naev is based on escape escape velocity

[tiny lake]

https://starcitizen.tools/Reclaimer

[idle anvil]

unfinished and been in development since 2008, but unlike star citizen it's free to play and much more playable

[proud jasper]

bruh. 180

[idle anvil]

a couple quick tips, you can use <angled brackets> around a link to remove the preview, and I think using square brackets like [[Reclaimer]] will trigger a bot

[alpine orbit]

https://starcitizen.tools/Reclaimer

[tiny lake]

Noice

[idle anvil]

since it's free to play and barely takes up any resources, I highly recommend checking it out.

[tiny lake]

Might do!

[ivory gust]

It's a salvage ship, not a hauler

[delicate relic]

Can I break down a space roid with a prospector laser to the point I can break it down more or mine it with a hand mining tool?

[ivory gust]

And even if it had more space you wouldn't want to use it for hauling

[ivory gust]

No

Well, if you stack enough gadgets on it, yes, but you'll still need a Prospector to extract it

[proud jasper]

it can hold 180SCU's of scrap. with how large the ships you can scrap with the reclaimer.

[delicate relic]

so if I start with prospector and break it down to the point the prospector is ready to extract. the hand mining tool ( or roc? ) will not be able to extract ( or break it down further now that they are smaller?)

[ivory gust]

No

[delicate relic]

I would be suprised if the reclaimer on release can not scrap a medium sized ship there abouts in one go. but at some level I would assume you would need haulers taking your shit back from the job site. like trucks moving waste.

[delicate relic]

poop, had some dummy thick ideas 😛

[proud jasper]

that's waht I was originally thinking.

[delicate relic]

reclaimer is not ment to operate in a vacuum ( pum intended)

[proud jasper]

how do you even acess the cargo bay in order to get the scrap out of the ship?

[ivory gust]

You won't need to at this point, you just go sell it

[spring prism]

Do I need my ship spawned to transfer cargo to it from a refinery?

Or can I leave it stored?

[pliant sparrow]

You can leave it stored

[hollow sedge]

Vulcan and Railen or Genesis Starliner?

[sharp surge]

I’m a returning player and years ago there was a website that helped you calculate the best cargo runs. Does something like that still exist?

[north oyster]

You sell it from the ship however, as you are hull scraping you have to have someone with a tractor beam moving the cargo being salvaged and processed

[north oyster]

Do you like the loaners of these concepts? Or just buy a CCU and lock it in for later

[hollow sedge]

I like to invest into the ship itself and keep it for the release

[north oyster]

I do both methods

Sometimes with the same ship

Create a CCU chain as well as have the actual ship

I think the Carrack being the loaner for the RSI Galaxy is telling

[ivory gust]

Fairly sure it actually needs to be stored

[ivory gust]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[spring prism]

It's weird because when you keep it stored, and then un-store it, sometimes the cargo won't physically appear, despite it being in the ship. I had this happen with my Cutlass Black when I was hauling back Refined Quantanium from MIC-L1

[ivory gust]

I'm not actually finishing any CCU chains this IAE. Not thrilled with the big gaps left over.

My tinfoil hat theory is that they maliciously avoided giving good CCU chains and instead just gave us a bunch that overlapped.

[sharp surge]

Thanks!

[rocky fox]

never found so many bugged asteroids like tonight...

bah

I'm really running out of patience

[north oyster]

My collection is a hot mess except for two chains that I have "frozen" which is taking my C2 to a BMM, then the other taking the Endeavor to the Liberator. I did run a "what if" and it looks like I can pick up an Orion for about $235 with what I have now.

[north oyster]

I would encourage you to hang in there. The Free Fly will be over soon and then the servers will be back to a little more normal load.

[rocky fox]

hope so... I mean, I can't even say "I'm glad to help and test" because there's nothing I can test today, nothing works 😕

[north oyster]

My Live 3.17.4 game is CTD every time now the past couple of days. I have no idea what changed.

[hollow sedge]

Ok

[lavish wharf]

I guys, gotta question about the mole. I don't know if it's better to use a MH2 lancet module or an Impact II for quantainium mining ?

[ivory gust]

Lancet

[hollow sedge]

hey just a question but would it be a good idea to upgrade from a avenger titan renegade to a Hull A?

[acoustic garnet]

if you do cargo or mining

[hollow sedge]

I do mainly cargo

I use the Carrak often and find the game loop fun and profitable

[acoustic garnet]

i mean u go from multi roll to only cargo

[hollow sedge]

yea

[acoustic garnet]

id say its a personal choice

[hollow sedge]

do you reccon in early game it would be usefull?

[acoustic garnet]

perhaps yea

depends on fuel tanks

[hollow sedge]

wdym?

by fuel tanks

@acoustic garnet

[acoustic garnet]

idk what the range will be earlr game

[hollow sedge]

wdym???

sorry still new to mechanics sry

@acoustic garnet

[placid bison]

how do i equip my mining laser to the prospecter its not even highlighing that i can change it

[jovial matrix]

Is this a rental prospector by chance?

[placid bison]

no i just bought it for 2 mil

[jovial matrix]

is the prospector stored at the same location you're at?

[placid bison]

yes

[jovial matrix]

hm

idk then

[native marsh]

is it still on a claim timer where you're at? (with a red lock beside it in the ship manager)

and did you buy a MH1 head instead of MH2

[placid bison]

yes ill get back to you on the timer

https://gyazo.com/79c6b41520bfb54ce72de463831b1024

that is what its doing

[native marsh]

ahh you need to go to the utility menu, not weapons

[placid bison]

lol i feel dumb thx

[native marsh]

lol np

[placid bison]

1 thing what modules should i run

[native marsh]

are you going after quant?

[placid bison]

yes

[native marsh]

belt or planet?

[placid bison]

prolly planet

[native marsh]

you'll want lancet mh1 with stampede and a couple surges

[placid bison]

where do i get stampede at

[native marsh]

arc l1 refinery has it

surge you can pick up a couple places like PO, NB shubin, and some of the L1s but not arc l1

[placid bison]

what do i need for the belt mining

[native marsh]

in the belt, they'll never be over 5.3k mass so you don't have to worry about things being large enough to NEED surges. you can use things like brandt to stabilize them even further or a fltr xl to remove some of the inert

that said, surges can make it faster still to break things in the belt

[placid bison]

wheres the belt

[native marsh]

depends on where you start from

[placid bison]

hurston rn

[native marsh]

you usually wanna go from like cru L1 cause it gives bonuses to quant refining

[placid bison]

so jump to cru l1

[native marsh]

start at Cru L1, head towards Arc L3 and cut your Q-drive as close to 11,855,245 km as possible

[placid bison]

first time mining kinda scared ill blow up

[native marsh]

spectre q-drive and palisade shield can help with that

[placid bison]

where should i smelt at

[native marsh]

you have 15 mins from the moment you start sucking up the quant to get it to the refinery, so break up the quant containing pieces before you start sucking it up. and don't get too jumpy flying in where you faceplant into the station going too fast XD

Cru L1 refinery

[placid bison]

lowkey shittin myself lmao

[native marsh]

lol once you've done it a couple times you'll be good.

biggest danger is generally yourself rushing to get it back and making mistakes

[placid bison]

whats the best way to refine it

besides waiting a day

[native marsh]

you'll have to wait some for any method. I prefer ferron exchange (about a day with a full load of quant) or Dinyx (3 days for half the cost) which will both give you the highest yield

if you're out for an immediate payout, you can sell the ore raw, but its not recommended, since it will only pay half value

[placid bison]

i got too 11,854,631 and theres nothing here

[placid bison]

how do i tell if a rock has quant in it

[native marsh]

press m to pull out your mining head and tab to scan

you're looking for q type rocks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz8TOCUa0Ms is also a great guide to how to find quant rocks

[glacial dagger]

Scanning is a good bet. If scanning wont work, but you wanna check anyway, the rock shoudl have bronzy streaks runnign through it

[buoyant isle]

get it impounded if it disappears before landing

[full mantle]

groovy

[north oyster]

Between CRU-L1 and ARC-L3 you want to dropout at 11.5M Km

[glacial dagger]

11.5-12 makes for a good mark

[north oyster]

Also that video on active ping angle tuning is the most important thing for mining the Halo

[copper apex]

So is it still the lancet for the meta?

[glacial dagger]

For Quant? The lancet does make it easier, yes

[vestal ravine]

Medical Supplies scam?? I took a Carrack to Anvik and bought $551,944 worth of the Meds but it only sold at NBIS TDD for $553,191. (327 Units) There should be a $4.00 spread between bought and sold. And I thought bigger ships were the way to go. I can make more on a starter box run than this episode.

[glacial dagger]

Just a throught, but are you getting your buying/selling prices from SC Trade Tools by any chance?

Also, if you filled your hold with Med Supplies, and you sold 327 SCU, you would still have 129 SCU worth of medical supplies left on board

@vestal ravine Is either of these the case?

[vestal ravine]

I did look at Trade Tools for the spread but generally I have gotten a reasonable profit from such efforts. I can go back for a redo in my 135C and write down the actual unit prices for buy and sell. I first went to SMCa-6 for some Astatine 120 units. The profit on that was $18,428.00.

[prime pine]

Late to the party. As mentioned, surge and stampede; but I use the Optimum in my 3rd slot. Gives me that little bit of extra leg room (green bar) if I'm about to fall out of the zone.

[vestal ravine]

https://fleetyards.net/tools/trade-routes/?page=1 shows the $4.00 spread also...

[glacial dagger]

So one of the issues with SCTT is that they cant really update their pricings they the prices update on the server, meaning purchase and selling prices might fluctuate beyond what the site says. It's the same with all the sites

they can data skim to get the base prices, but they cant skim to get the live, up-to-date data all the time

Also, especially with medical supplies, you more than likely cant get much MED rn jsut because of how the stock levels and regen rates work at th mo

[vestal ravine]

I know, I hit it just right and did not expect that much to be available. That's why i bought some Astatine first.

[glacial dagger]

Always try and buyas much of your more profitable product first 😄

[tiny lake]

Are the Taurus and the MSR the only ships with shielded cargo?

[glacial dagger]

Currently, yes

[tiny lake]

Ty

[glacial dagger]

Although I'm not sure if the shielding actually works just yet

Nw bud, happy to help

[north oyster]

The Med trading dead end ... it's a sad thing, almost as dream busting as Laranite

[north oyster]

Not implemented yet iirc, it's Soon(tm)

[vestal ravine]

I tested these medical costs just now at Anvik with the 6 SCU 135C and the buy at unit cost is 17.32 and the sell is 18.65 for a net profit of $795.00. Not really worth messing with.

[north oyster]

It's the buy back rate that's the problem. It's great when 9TLockdown is happening. Can make about 1M aUEC per run

You were wise to use a 135c instead of a Carrack

[rugged axle]

trading in general isnt worth messing with if your trying to make money fast from my experience

[indigo fox]

The SC Trade Tools website says I can buy Slam at a place called Private Property. But when I went there I was getting shot at? I’m new to cargo hauling so I’m not sure if I’m doing something wrong or what.

[vestal ravine]

I have been there twice in 4 weeks no problems. Just get away and server jump or go back later. Also I think the Paradise Cove Jumptown site has a terminal that buys more of this than any other. If you can find it without a marker. My method for this drug is to store it on a Nomad at Cru L5. They have a NQA terminal. It took 20 sales to get it sold off but the profit was $89,000.00. If you get it sold at "Jumptown" please advise how much they took. Thanks!!

[cinder beacon]

Eh the money seems pretty good if you have a big enough ship tbh

but that's the catch, you need a big enough ship

[vestal ravine]

That's generally true but maybe in the future things will improve for smaller ship traders. I would say offer your services as a laser operator on a Mole. Make sure they pay you a fair amount. If you do okay you should be able to afford a Freelancer Max. A cargo ship is needed for the key actives like hauling refined materials to the TDD terminals, carrying a ROC, and then general trading. Good luck.

[placid bison]

where do i sell my quant

[vestal ravine]

At the bigger cities that have a TDD terminal...

[ivory gust]

After mining, it gets refined at a refinery station (usually an L1 station). After refining, you deliver it to a major city TDD

[junior edge]

anyone know where the build for the prospector is, i thought there was a pdf link with prospector setup and modules but cant find it in the stickies

[placid bison]

any tips on finding quant rocks i cant find none

[rocky fox]

this?

#industrial-professions message

so, if I wanted more powerful guns on my Cutter for when I need to face reds (easy ones, like tier 1 or 2), what should I buy? I'm a total noob so "gimbaled" (is that the word?) weapons could be the best but I don't know...

learning ship combat takes time 😅

and I ask here because, yes, I'm mostly "cargo and mining" 😄

[lilac geode]

What's everyone's favorite roc hauler? I currently have star runner and Im really not sure if I like or hate it 😄

[jovial matrix]

Mines the taurus

[jagged valve]

Cutlass black without a doubt. 1 door to get out. Lol.

Love the MSR, but not for mining. But I suppose the MSR is currently faster, get out of your seat and fall right through the floor to the ground, no doors! Lol

[noble light]

Yeah

[junior edge]

@rocky fox ty mate thats the one

[misty coyote]

If you're using Gimbled then you have the best weapon options already...

Cannon are higher DPS, but slower shot speed. With the agility of the Cutter, your nose will need to be moving faster than Repeaters.

Unfortunately, stock is the best option

[rocky fox]

ok thanks 😅

[rocky fox]

I'd be fine using standard "lock" method but the Cutter doesn't turn that fast so dogfighting is not the best experience 😅

But I can learn

[iron sluice]

Where should I bring my refined materials to sell?🙀

[rocky fox]

main cities! like New Babbage

Trade terminal in there

@iron sluice

not sure you can sell that elsewhere

[iron sluice]

Purrfect, thank you 🍻

[ivory gust]

Minable gems will be stackable in inventories in Alpha 3.18.

[jovial matrix]

Lets

Fucking

Go

Transfer a whole ROC of hadanite in just a few clicks

[ivory gust]

Click drag done

[jovial matrix]

Yessir

[ivory gust]

I wonder if they'll properly make mined dolovine not stack with looted dolovine (that has 10x value). Would be fun if there was a bug that could let you "infect" a stack of mined dolovine with a single looted one to 10x the value

I assume it will just work though

[jovial matrix]

That would be interesting

[idle anvil]

that'll be super nice
honestly, just for that and salvage, getting a pack now for 3.18 is tempting... but I have a lot of other games to play.

[sonic laurel]

It would be great if I could loot condensed dolivine easier but I suppose not

But that will make gem transfer much easier. A Cutty black with a couple of 2 SCU crates can really stack big profits in it thanks to 30k protection. Since said protection doesn't apply to ROC inventories

each cluster can be immediately offloaded to a safe storage

[jovial matrix]

Why not just put it in ship storage instead?

No need for the crates that way

[sonic laurel]

How much is the cutty black stowage?

since it can hold probably a dozen+ SCU in crates and a ROC

[idle anvil]

you can get cargo crates for extra stowage?

[sonic laurel]

yeah

[idle anvil]

huh, neat

[sonic laurel]

jeez

ship local stowage is superbloated

must be a stand-in for physical cargo not being a thing

but that will change soon enough. Cutty has 1scu shielded stowage and 1SCU of non-shielded stowage. So for now just move into local since it's replacing the "cargo" aspect

but once they get physical in that will start changing

[mighty prawn]

Alright!!! Are these from some draft release notes or something?

[ivory gust]

No, from the "patch watch" they just put up: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/alpha-3-18-patch-watch-balancing-keys/5560633

[sonic laurel]

BRUH

only stackable gems

is for the next patch

why even talk about the other things in relation to some other "later" mystery patch

[rocky fox]

time to learn how to mine gems! 😄

[tiny lake]

Throw a roc in that cutter and go!

Honestly the loot all in cave missions will be so nice

[idle anvil]

can a roc fit in a cutter?

[tiny lake]

Fit? Absolutely

[ivory gust]

Not really no. It's super glitch

[idle anvil]

I think I heard it kinda fits it you leave the door open

[tiny lake]

https://youtu.be/4G5Me6-hS4c

[ivory gust]

Kinda, and currently it stays even with door closed, but I wouldn't bank on it working indefinitely

[eager crane]

can i join anyone in mining? i am some what new to the game and trying to save up for a prospector to do solo mining

[idle anvil]

#looking-for-session is probably the better place to ask.

[eager crane]

oh ok thanks

[rocky fox]

not really, doesn't fit 😛

I haven't been able to park it in a CUTLASS BLACK!

I'm that noob, yes

[jovial matrix]

Yikes

[sonic laurel]

practice makes perfect

The best place to practice is the ice flats outside of the MT commons

no terrain variation making a wheel stuck

[ember night]

ROC fit perfect in Cuttlas

[jovial matrix]

Yup

[tiny lake]

It's on video!

[rocky fox]

ohhh, interesting

[rocky fox]

I practiced a lot to STAY ALIVE 😛 this game wants to kill me in 1001 different ways

[rocky fox]

there's no space to move or fart! that's a trick I don't like 😄

[rocky fox]

I made a mess, trying that...

like, wasn't able to take it out anymore

had to destroy everything: Cutlass, ROC, even the outpost

what can I say... xD

[ember night]

Just enter Cutlas in middle of ramp and leave some space before you stop in ship cargo. You need to train this couple of times

[ivory gust]

It's also easier if you back in to the Cutlass in my experience

[jovial matrix]

Agreed

[silent charm]

Hello and good after noon all

[jovial matrix]

Hello

[prime pine]

o7

[rocky fox]

will do 👍

[rocky fox]

lol really? never tried

[true lotus]

Hello everyone

[prime pine]

o7

[jovial matrix]

Hello

[drowsy wolf]

If the progress bar thats to the left of the charge level fully finishes on the overcharge side is that when quant instantly explodes and kills you?

[jovial matrix]

The ferocity of the explosion will vary depending on how overcharged the rock was when you finished breaking it

So if the rock is very slightly overcharged, it’ll be a small explosion that probably won’t even break your shields

If the overcharge is like halfway full or something, it’ll be a very large explosion that will probably disable or destroy your prospector

[tiny lake]

Bloe your engines clean off and leave you stranded!

[jovial matrix]

Or destroy your powerplant

[drowsy wolf]

Ok so what happened was that I found this 3k mass 47% quant rock right. I do the first crack and then 2 more I think. Those go perfectly fine. I had not noticed that were was one more yellow left to crack and I began cracking it after I had already picked up quant. So the timer had already started and I was rushing to crack it quickly. Tbh I shouldn't have rushed because I had plenty time but I was nervous. The last yellow had good quant in it too so that's why I started mining it. So the bad thing that happened was that the green progress bar was about to finish but my charge level was in the red. The overcharge progress bar was already half full. So after a bit the green progress bar finishes while im in the red overcharge bar and then i start spinning out of control like really fast. Idk if when I cracked the rock it just exploded and sent me flying or that a purple hit me and sent me flying

[jovial matrix]

Since you broke the rock while it was overcharged, it exploded

[drowsy wolf]

Oh alr ty. i thought it would instantly blow up the ship and me

[jovial matrix]

Nah

Just depends on how overcharged the rock is when you break it

[drowsy wolf]

Literally right now i just found a 3.5k 49% rock. I'll try not to fuck up again lol

[jovial matrix]

You can do it

You’re finding some good rocks

[drowsy wolf]

Yea its surprsing tbh. Right after IAE finishes I start finding good stuff. Literally during the event I tried mining on lyria and After almost an hour of looking only found 2-3% rocks

[jovial matrix]

Yeah

Might be cause of the servers being under heavy load, or maybe you just got super unlucky lol

[acoustic garnet]

what was the best mining head for the Prospector MISC

for over all mining

[jovial matrix]

The lancet MH1

[acoustic garnet]

okay just making sure

[ivory moss]

Anyone willing to teach a newbie miner?

Or need a partner?

[acoustic garnet]

i can

[ivory moss]

If you want. I just want a good way to make money. I dont want shortcuts. I kind of like fighting, but I also wanted to try cargo and mining. Because it can be lurcative.

You might have to give me some time. I have to step out.

[ivory moss]

🙂

[acoustic garnet]

im in the discord in Arron Halo

VC

@ivory moss

[ivory moss]

Okay. Ill be back in a bit.

Thank you @acoustic garnet

[acoustic garnet]

np

[ivory gust]

My epic $550 post-IAE fleet, not counting LTI tokens

[jovial matrix]

amazing

[ivory gust]

Ugh, wrong channel. Oh well

[jovial matrix]

god mining dolovine is annoying

[scarlet rover]

Wait until a Vanguard swoops in and ganks you as you're loading the ROC back onto your ship

[jovial matrix]

lol

I was in prison, so definitely not gonna have that happen

[tiny lake]

if you're new to mining I suggest the Lancet

oh I was way behind lol

[rose root]

anyword on them fixing the elevator on the Raft, its been 50/50 since launch...

[little stratus]

yea its unflyable when the lift's broke

be nice if it had a ladder

[jovial matrix]

it has an airlock lol

elevator into the ship, use the airlock to get out

[scarlet rover]

I mean, actually no, like Fjord said you can take the lift up and hop out the airlock. Still super annoying and still no word on when they'll fix it, though

[brazen walrus]

Any miners or scouts on atm?

[sonic laurel]

Mine is a Cutter, Tana, and PTV

lol

[misty coyote]

I got C8R, Vulture and Nomad.

You bought a PTV?

[pliant matrix]

Well I got galaxy, c1 and Corsair iae CCU but went with Mustang, titan, vulture, retaliator and Taurus line up to be ready for the coming wipe

[misty coyote]

Mustang Beta is going to be my first purchase post wipe. Taurus is on the cards too.

[brazen walrus]

pretty gud

[misty coyote]

I've seen better....

[brazen walrus]

wtf

[misty coyote]

I'm so bad at this sort of jokage

[brazen walrus]

yellow bleep and boom

[misty coyote]

OOH NO!!!!

Where did it happen?

[brazen walrus]

station

[misty coyote]

Did you try and park?

NEVER park

[brazen walrus]

just landed "Gently"

[misty coyote]

Always use the Valet parking service

There are so many bugs around stations with Quant

[brazen walrus]

yeah

[misty coyote]

I tend to ask for landing permission, park in front of the hanger, then ask again for it to be revoked

[brazen walrus]

got sooo good load now now, i still had like 8 min left

[misty coyote]

Then wait for you ship to be impounded

[brazen walrus]

but it went boom after first yellow beep

[misty coyote]

It's a bug....

You'll either go boom

Or all of your quant will go inert

Rarely, will it just work

[brazen walrus]

last time all quant went inert

[misty coyote]

So Valet Park and wait 15 minutes for the ship to be released

[brazen walrus]

fml

[misty coyote]

I know...I'm sorry you had to go through that

The 32 scu was a beautiful sight to see

[brazen walrus]

out of 3 loads only 1 got through

it's kinda bs ngl

[misty coyote]

Well, now you know...

Pay this forward to your fellow miners

Always always valet park

Just take solace in the fact there is a wipe in the next month, and the money you would have made would be gone anyway

And someone here will take pity and send you a load of scratch to buy a new ship...

I would, but I have about 8k to my name...

[brazen walrus]

then u can come and mine with me

got mole too

[misty coyote]

I'm at work...

In a meeting

Just doing 2 things...

[brazen walrus]

anyone else here wants to come and scout?

[misty coyote]

#looking-for-session there will be likely candidates

[brazen walrus]

been there done that, everyone too busy on pew pew

[misty coyote]

Yeah, had a look and saw you made yourself known...

[brazen walrus]

u can barely find any miners now

[misty coyote]

In an org?

[brazen walrus]

not part of any

[misty coyote]

I'm not even sure I'm allowed to tell you of one to join...

[brazen walrus]

dont, lets keep u from trouble

[misty coyote]

I'll look at the rules...

Well...It says no Org activity and no unsolicited recruitment...

I'm just a grunt in the org, but if no Mod steps in and tells me off, I can tell you the name of the org i'm in...

[brazen walrus]

just dm me

[misty coyote]

Hope you find some more mining buddies

[brazen walrus]

gonna try 1 more run

then gotta hop off

[brazen walrus]

oh boy

there is another one at 5k mass with 34% next to it xD

sadly i dont have mole with me

[misty coyote]

You can take a 5k on

[brazen walrus]

is there any way to reapair ship in space

[misty coyote]

Nope

Soon TM

[north oyster]

I'm impressed with the progress they've made on 3.18 because I was thinking they couldn't offer a viable build until next year. It's still a buggy mess and this December will probably be a rough patch for Christmas break

[rocky fox]

😦

[north oyster]

Salvage is going to be the new mining for awhile

[rocky fox]

I just logged out in rage because I found yet another bugged asteroid field... pls don't tell me next patch is going to be ever more bugged! 😄

[north oyster]

Bugged for different reasons

This is a monster change in the mechanics of the game

[rocky fox]

oh!

the real question: can anyone test the new patch? is it some kind of "public test"?

also, I hope it's a good mechanics change in the end 😄

[north oyster]

First wave might be in a week or two

Right now it's still in Evocati testing (NDA)

[rocky fox]

yes but how you get in Evocati? 😄
also: first wave for public test? interesting

thanks

I mean, I know nobody can talk about it

and it's ok 😄

[north oyster]

The best way to get in Evocati is to be active putting in and contributing to the Issue Council

[rocky fox]

ahhh ok, it's some kind of Selective test, good good ^^

lol, that's not the word, but you got it

[vestal ravine]

Project Agricium - I am going to try a new focused strategy for the trade item Agricium. This item has a good profit but the cost is high and sales are limited. I recently took a Freelancer Max to one of the five spots for it and had a $27,000.00 profit.
My last big idea for Ag involved keep visiting the spots until I had a full load in a C2. The first 7 stops went great until No. 8. I suffered a CTD that wiped out the cargo which was 55% full.
But now, since I have all these bigger ships from the Expo will divide them out to the three selling zones. I will still use return trips but not more than 2 per region/ship. Will also use the Hull A for the solitary site and call that at Platinum Bay and go straight to the TDD.
Once I get to the MT side of Stanton will use “Fast Travel” to get back to Crusader my home planet. That's where all the Expo ships are at. Fast Travel is backspace to that home planet. Worked great last night.

[north oyster]

Measured risk assessment, so every trip is "What if I CTD, will this end my trade career" other than that, go for it. I think Titanium is pretty good, also one of the spots on Lyria had unlimited Gold production that might be worth checking. I think it was humbolt

[sonic laurel]

CTD?

[vestal ravine]

I just noticed the Gold option at Kudre Ore. Could of bought $445,000.00 worth! Wow very tempting when the Ag was only a small amount at $20,000.00

[jovial matrix]

Crash to desktop

[sonic laurel]

Does that not trigger any kind of vehicle protection like a 30k does?

[north oyster]

Ok, for some reason Humbolt was stuck in my mind. I use Lovecraft for good buys also (Titanium, etc)

No, not CTD

Only server drops have 30K protection

Not sure how PES will change this

Matchmaking for getting back in the same shard isn't available yet, so it will be a gamble either way

[vestal ravine]

The crash that has the three red error boxes leads to loss of ship/cargo... The other 30K you can get the cargo back.

[north oyster]

Yeah, that's a CTD for sure

[sonic laurel]

I was delivering a cutlass full of sub items and expensive weapons and the entire time I was praying.

[north oyster]

I've seen a lot of those in the current live build

[sonic laurel]

I've crash in warps more than any other time

long ones mainly

[vestal ravine]

I know I spent over half a million on those sweet guns and armor and it's all in one spot lol.

[jovial matrix]

I’ve lost a titan full of guns before to a CTD, it sucks

[sonic laurel]

I was delivering these for 1.5 mil in payout and I really didn't want to lose that lol

[vestal ravine]

Was those the Expo weapons?

[sonic laurel]

oni, mandible, caudillo helmets, grenade launchers, railguns, sniper rifles, LMG's

I run bounties and bunkers as my main gamplay loop with a little bit of treasure hunting on the side

probably around 40 items total

[ivory gust]

Sometimes you log back in to your ship after a CTD

[sonic laurel]

I've had that happen once. I came back in my Tana but it was vertical and I had to make a beacon

I phased through the rescuers ship as my character came back without the ability to operate on the grid physics. I managed to get to GH and promptly walked through the pad. Put my stuff in local then died

[ivory gust]

If you came back without physics, you might have been able to phase into the cockpit and get into the seat even while vertical

[sonic laurel]

I didn't think of that until halfway to GH

[royal epoch]

Treasure hunting is a thing? Explain more please

[rocky fox]

Yes please

Something to do with exploration?

[pliant sparrow]

I believe He's talking about looting rare items from wrecks and points of interest

or cave diving like us Cave Dwellers

[silent charm]

Daddy Nurgle your a cave dweller?

Hard to make a living hauling in a Cutter! Only a thousand more trips till i can buy a real cargo ship! ; - )

[pliant sparrow]

Live by the cave and probably die in the same cave

[silent charm]

i see

so is there a site or something to find trade routes.?

for give me im new

[jovial matrix]

Basically you go into a cave and just mine everything you see

Kill any bad guys, loot all of their gear

Loot all the boxes

Literally just collect everything there is to collect in a cave

[jovial matrix]

UEXcorp and SC trade tools are both great websites for trading

[silent charm]

thanks for the Info!

[ivory gust]

Don't bother mining in caves, it's not worth the time

Just kill baddies, loot them for their gems (in torso or backpack inventory), loot any crates, and move onto the next one after stopping to sell what you collected

[royal epoch]

Oh those are those rocks I kept finding on those guys. Didnt know what they were

[jovial matrix]

Definitely keep all of those and sell them

They sell for a lot

[royal epoch]

Good to know

[mighty prawn]

WE do not lose what we wear, the gear and backpack and the stuff in the backpack? For 30k, willful quit, etc.. ?

[jovial matrix]

If you’re holding a gun during a CTD or 30K it might go poof, but otherwise you should be good

[ivory gust]

30k and willful quit you should be fine, CTD can potentially lose stuff

[sonic laurel]

caves diving, wreck diving, outposts, etc. they have loot boxes

[rugged vessel]

is it better to mine quantanium in space or on Lyria? I do not seem to have had much luck on lyria in the past hour or so

and I have never mined it in space

[idle anvil]

A bit better in space, it seems. https://redmonstergaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/RedMonsterSC_MiningOreLocationsSpaceDark-1024x446.png

Lyria is 0.7

[rugged vessel]

wow this is an awesome chart!

[idle anvil]

yeah, redmonstergaming has a bunch of them: https://redmonstergaming.com/mining-cheat-sheets

[worthy scroll]

Running cargo in a Starfarer because that's the kind of person I am. 10/10 somewhat recommend.

[jovial matrix]

Bruh

Ok

[jovial matrix]

Compare it’s flying to the cat, in space and in atmo

[worthy scroll]

Aww man, that's not fair to the Cat. Everything flies better than the Cat.

Cat is still love. Cat is life.

[jovial matrix]

Does the starfarer seriously fly better than the cat?

[worthy scroll]

Yeah. It's not "great" to fly, but I think it's still better than the Cat.

[jovial matrix]

Damn

Poor cat lol

[worthy scroll]

I did a run in my loaner Carrack too and I was surprised at how bad that one flew.

[jovial matrix]

Interesting

I mean, I know the carrack flies pretty bad since it’s so big, but if you think it’s bad then that’s interesting

[worthy scroll]

I didn't expect nimble, but I expected a bit better than what it is.

[jovial matrix]

I see I see

[ivory gust]

However, that chart fails to account for the fact that 50%+ of asteroids in space will be unscannables

[worthy scroll]

It's kind of like flying a bigger Freelancer, lots of inertia. Moreso than most other ships.

[ivory gust]

I found the Carrack to actually fly pretty well for its size--it's just that the C2 is stupidly overtuned

[worthy scroll]

Yeah I don't compare anything to the C2 because that's not a fair fight.

C2 has hacks.

[jovial matrix]

I’ve never flown a C2, I should fly one of its apparently so good

[worthy scroll]

It's just silly, it flies way too good.

[jovial matrix]

What would you say flies similarly to a C2?

[worthy scroll]

I'm talking out of my ass here but this may not be far off without a side by side comparison. But the Cutty.

[jovial matrix]

Dammnnn

Ok

They’re not super far off based on pitch/yaw/roll on erkul

C2 is 28/24/80, cutty black is 30/30/110

[cinder bough]

A2, but same thing https://youtu.be/1zeeEg2rmHo

[jovial matrix]

You think the vulture will be able to carry a ROC? It certainly seems wide enough, but I’m like 95% sure it’s too tall

[zinc kettle]

no

[leaden reef]

no

c2 is OP

you can dog fight in atmos with it

[rocky fox]

Yeah, it's been unbelievable, recently*... Bugger asteroids everywhere

*: I'm new so "recently" means "last 7 days" 😅

[ember night]

Try shut down and exit ship. In my case this works sometimes.

But remember to wear helmet

[rocky fox]

well, yesterday I logged out in the ship, standard procedure

this morning I logged in and I was in New Babbage... so...

ah, you mean exiting the ship and space and go back inside? interesting

[ivory gust]

Yep, that's one of the possible outcomes of bedlogging, you wake up back at your home city

[rocky fox]

🏴‍☠️

[minor isle]

People keep telling me to get a "Surge" for mining, but when i search for surge in the store there is nothing there

[karmic vigil]

Hey guys,
Where do I sell those free DCSR2 (vice) I get when looting posts? most places that take illegal stuff don't seem to take it.

[ivory gust]

It's a module that goes on the mining laser. Not available everywhere. Use !itemfinder to find out where it's sold

[wary tusk]

Universal Item Finder

Use the website to search for any item (and where to buy them) in-game.

[minor isle]

What does it do, and how is it different from the stampede?

[ivory gust]

It increases the charge/power level of the rock by 40% when activated.

[minor isle]

so basically i wont need to spend 4 min splitting the big rocks

Do i need both a stampede and surge or is the stampede enough

[rugged axle]

for big rocks{over 5kish} you HAVE to have surge.

its really closer to 6k tbf

[bitter ferry]

Does the ship go there with you?

[north oyster]

Everyone should have that experience

[north oyster]

Bed logging is very challenged and has a number of a associated issues. Rumor is it has even more problems with the 3.18 build. Use it as a very last resort

[misty coyote]

Oh no.... I really like bed logging too.... Was going to rely on it if I managed to get a Reclaimer....

[rocky fox]

Noooo, ok thanks 👍

I think I'll hospital logging 😅

[north oyster]

I'm sure they they will eventually get it right but right now it's like the NPCs standing in chairs

[rocky fox]

You have faith... Lucky you.

[sweet grail]

take a trip from orison to microtech

[rocky fox]

that's beautiful

graphics in SC rocks

(do I look like a boomer?)

(I mean, we used to say "rock" back in the 90s)

xD

[worthy scroll]

Last word on it is bed logging has been disabled entirely for 3.18, it needs to be completely rewritten for PES. Or something along those lines.

It's worked pretty great for me in 3.17, I did it regularly for a while. But it's always playing Russian Roulette and not recommended.

Ok it may still be there but it will do a very different thing.

[north oyster]

I just think of Bed Logging along the same lines as NPCs in chairs, it's a gamble always

From CIG Jake:
Hey folks! Just confirmed this morning that Alpha 3.18's wipe will indeed include items, wallet, and reputation, due to the deployment of Persistent Entity Streaming. Expect a clean slate once 3.18 releases!

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/3-18-wipe-will-we-lose-rep/5569760

[glacial dagger]

Looking forward to using my cargo abilities to turn my 240k starting amount into 10 mill within a week

[north oyster]

How did you get the 240K aUEC starting funds? It's normally 25K

[worthy scroll]

Gonna be an interesting time now that people will legitimately be pirating next patch.

[north oyster]

Not sure they will offer all the previous bonuses they did this year

[glacial dagger]

Packs increase your starting amount

[worthy scroll]

How many game packs do you have lol.

[north oyster]

I've stayed away from packs and normally just got single ship route

[worthy scroll]

Buying a ton of packs is an interesting way to spend money.

[glacial dagger]

Ok, my numbers were wrong due to my hanger explorer not reading stuff properly. It's closer to 120k, but that's still a nice starting chunk

And it's not just the starter packs, it's the ship packs as well

[north oyster]

Ok, that makes sense

[glacial dagger]

UEE Exploration, Escort, Convoy, that sort of stuff

[north oyster]

I've toss around the idea of getting a pack but I don't like the idea of being locked into that route for ship CCU's etc

it's the easiest way to get a Kraken, that's for sure

[glacial dagger]

I mean, you can still upgrade ships inside the pack, so...

Just start your CCU chains a little higher

[north oyster]

understand, but you also are forever committed to that pack, action done on a single ship can't be undone if I understand correctly

[glacial dagger]

Indeed

Then again, I havn't really CCU'd many ships, so I dont really mind

[north oyster]

I have thought about turning some of the store credit into UEC credit

[glacial dagger]

Once a ship gets added to my fleet, for the most part it will stay there

Dotn bother, it's so much easier to just make the money in game

[north oyster]

Yeah, I've been pleased with how things are shaping up for my fleet. I have wondered off the trail a little, but mostly I've stayed to plan

Since all of the content creators were dumping on the Galaxy, I picked one up because if they hate it, then it's got to be good, LOL

but I love the idea of a total, complete wipe in the game. It's very refreshing in many ways

[pine grotto]

hey guys how do i turn on mining moduels

[ivory gust]

Nope, ship gets lost

[bitter ferry]

Gotcha

[pine grotto]

how muhc scu of quatanium should i be averaging

per run

[ivory gust]

20+

[pine grotto]

and is there a way to decreae the volatility

of the rocks

and also what percentage should i be looking for

[ivory gust]

Use lancet head, that's all the instability reduction you need. If you want more, there are modules that can reduce instability

[ivory gust]

Depends on mass. At 5k mass, 1% = 1 SCU

[pine grotto]

i mean when carrying

[pine grotto]

oko

[ivory gust]

No, you only have 15min to get back to the station from when you start extracting

[pine grotto]

rip

@ivory gust

do you know how i replenish my mining moduels

[ivory gust]

Buy more

[crimson mantle]

Can you only see the asteroid type in mining mode, and not with a regular ship scanner?

[pine grotto]

realy are they only a one time use

[crimson mantle]

Trying to map the MIC lagrange before salvage comes in 🙂

[ivory gust]

Also make sure that you get impounded back at the station instead of landing in a hangar when carrying Quant to avoid bugs... Just float up to a closed hangar door without calling ATC and wait for the impound message. If you don't see it in 30sec, try a different hangar

[ivory gust]

Active modules have 5 charges

[ivory gust]

AFAIK that's correct. If you're close enough in scan mode you can see the exact composition, but not asteroid type

[north oyster]

Great to see you! Hope you have been well

[pine grotto]

its alt 1

[north oyster]

I will say (from what I've heard) that it's pretty interesting

[shell sorrel]

quant turns to inert whilst mining

is these reversable?

[plush maple]

Try and refine it anyway- I've had it turn inert but at the station it's still there

[shell sorrel]

yup was all there

500k worth

[plush maple]

Might be a UI glitch

[shell sorrel]

:))))

[undone merlin]

Hey guys what's the best tool for cargo routes?

Is it SC-Trade.Tools

[native wigeon]

actually where do i find quant on clio ive been searching for nearly 2 hours

is there a better moon

[ivory gust]

Not on Clio. Lyria for Quant. Look for clusters of 2+ rocks, all clusters on Lyria are Quant. Easy to find.

[native wigeon]

also when it says i have like 4000 laranite or something is that 40 scu? or 4? or some other number entirely

[ivory gust]

40

[jovial matrix]

SC trade tools and UEXcorp are the main two sites

[misty coyote]

How does/would group ROC mining work? What carrier would you need minimum and what's the roles?

[ivory gust]

Most useful second role would be someone to scout good deposits, so the miner doesn't have to spend time scanning for something.

I like the Carrack for this kind of group. Plenty of room for multiple ROCs, has a hangar to carry a snub for scouting (merlin has 5km scan range, or pisces can carry delivery boxes to mark multiple deposits. Sadly there's no snub that fits that can do both).

Plus, since it has a medbay for respawn, the scout pilot can park their ship at the next deposit to mark it, get out, suicide back to the Carrack, then hop in their own ROC to help mine the current deposit, or be the one to fly the Carrack if your miner isn't as good at flying

It's also perfectly fine to just have two people mining in ROCs in one ship, but that will be less effective than having one miner one scout since you'll lose time scanning. Cutlass or Freelancer MAX can both easily carry two ROCs.

[misty coyote]

I'm thinking a 3 person mining trip.

1 Cutty with 2 ROCs, 1 C8.

The C8 holds a few delivery boxes and scouts for mineral deposits.

The Cutty then follows and hoovers up....
If at any point, the C8 drops enough boxes, or gets bored, return to Cutty to help mine. Or take 1 space miner and the pilot.

Each time the Cutty takes off, the miner empties the ROCs into the ship local storage.

Extra bonus..... Take a Nomad with a ROC. When I run out of boxes I'll start on the last node. When you've hoovered up the trial, we start again..

[earnest river]

need someone to go roc mining with im new

[cold thorn]

I want to try my hand at mining before the wipe, but I am not sure how to set up my Mole for mining quant. Anyone have an erkul loadout they can share, or any tips and tricks? I don't care if it is not profitable or w/e. Just doing this as a test mostly.

[carmine ravine]

can anyone shoe me how to do a cargo run??

[misty coyote]

Land at a mining station, buy Laranite or Titanium.
Land at City station.
Sell at Trade Depot

[ivory gust]

MOLE isn't really a good introduction to mining, Prospector is better for that

But you'd want Lancet MH2, 2x surge, stampede in whatever mining turret you're going to use, and an XL-1 quantum drive

[merry thistle]

Hello everyone, i have a question whats is the best to mine with rented prospector?

[cold thorn]

Cool thanks, but what is 2x surge?

[ivory gust]

2 surge modules. They make it possible to mine larger rocks. If you're mining in the asteroid belt you don't need them since there are no larger rocks

[ivory gust]

Taranite, Bexalite, or Borase. I've heard that Wala is okay for that

[cold thorn]

I am looking on erkul and I am not seeing these surge modules you speak of

[ivory gust]

Modules aren't on erkul, use !itemfinder

[wary tusk]

Universal Item Finder

Use the website to search for any item (and where to buy them) in-game.

[ivory gust]

They're attached to the mining laser

Active modules like surge and stampede only have 5 charges, and all modules are lost when you claim the ship

[cold thorn]

Oh wow. I had no idea they had attachments like that. I may need to watch a video or something first. Any suggestions?

[ivory gust]

Check pins in this channel

[cold thorn]

Cool thanks

[merry thistle]

thx

[vestal ravine]

Just a short digest of my recent post about focusing on Agricium.
It took 6 outings to bring back 2 successful loads of cargo to the TDD/terminal area - one at Brio's the other Orison.

On the first trip I had to abandon ship because I left the rear ramp on the Carrack a bit to high and the front ramp was to elevated for the panel click. Kind of a rookie mistake but only lost 13K...

I had two 30 error code disconnects which did not affect the cargo and one serious missile attack that I combat logged on no cargo aboard.

The other two clean sales were for 70K and 148K profit. But the Agricium buys were very stingy and I had to use Gold at 5.5 and sold for 6.41 to fill the C2 up to the brim.

But I saw a way to use this trade for a 5 stop process that uses 2 Moons around Crusader. On a scale of 1 to 10 I would rate this a 6 or 7 IF you bring home 148K with no hassles and avoid using Orison.

[cerulean lichen]

You guys think other minerals would ever be good to mine besides quant? Or would that be a thing once we have a dynamic economy and prices can fluctuate?

[worthy scroll]

Or would that be a thing once we have a dynamic economy and prices can fluctuate?
This. Supply and demand will be a thing later. But some things will likely never really be "worth it". Though, technically they can since they're so common and easy to get. That's how it works though, supply and demand. If something is common, it'll never really be worth much where it is common. If it's rare, it'll be worth more.

If you throw time into the mix, what becomes "worth it" can change. You can go for something rare, and it'll bring in a big payday if you fill up on it, but it can take a significant amount of time to get that load. (Not really right now because quant is so easy to find.) Or, you can go for things that don't sell for much, but are incredibly easy to find. You pick slow trips with big payouts, or fast trips with small payouts.

Heck, there's even the possibility later of someone controlling the market for some items, like what happens IRL. Take diamonds for example. They're nowhere near as rare as people think they are, they're just highly controlled (very interesting to look into, it's one of the biggest and longest running scams in the world). And the people who control them get to price them however they want. That could always happen in game. Later. Once we have the systems for it. You could even say that's going to be a major goal in the game.

[jade crown]

Where can you sell Dolvine you find in boxes on Microtech?

[ivory gust]

Any admin terminal in a station or city, or the cargo terminal at any mining outpost

[jade crown]

Do prices very?

[ivory gust]

Very little

All locations will pay the same base price, it's possible it will be slightly lower if someone else just sold a bunch

[humble plume]

When you looking at ship stats, specifically cargo and say a ship says is has 6 cargo capacity. Is that the trading from terminal capacity as well as how many boxes it can fit? 🤔

[ivory gust]

That's trading from terminal capacity. Delivery boxes are about 1/8 that size, so you can fit a lot more in

[humble plume]

Aah sweet thanks exactly what I needed to know.

[royal epoch]

The mining video in pins is two years old, any good recent ones?

[glacial dagger]

What are you talking about? 3.17 is the main patch we're on. We're on 3.17.4