industrial-professions

[ivory gust]

ROC cannot fit in an avenger titan

But I agree, the Vulture does look big enough.

[jovial matrix]

An ROC cannot fit in an avenger titan

[sonic laurel]

what ship is this?

[jovial matrix]

The vulture’s cargo bay

[sonic laurel]

nice

[mighty prawn]

A non-Prospector/Mole cannot scout ahead and look for Quantianum right?

[jovial matrix]

They can

Any ship can scan rocks and pick up signatures for rocks, but only the mole and prospector can actually mine the rocks

[mighty prawn]

Can they scan the % and mass, etc.. just like prospector?

[jovial matrix]

Yup

[mighty prawn]

ok, got it

[ivory gust]

Yes, but they need to use scan mode (v, then hold left mouse button, within 300m) manually on each rock

[hearty schooner]

Ah right ok, thanks for the correction, never actually tried myself

[misty coyote]

Been looking forward to the Vulture for a while.... Since I discovered it and noticed its likeness to another space mining ship

[jovial matrix]

lol

[pliant matrix]

Smallest ship that can carry a rock is nomad (and sometimes it's glitchy) then cutlass. Anything smaller than that can't take it

With a small cargo area I mean

[misty coyote]

I worry about the Nomad's ability to cargo run with physical cargo

That's ripe for grabbing

[toxic citrus]

Just like a pickup truck

[pliant matrix]

For a long time there was a boxes bug but I think it always worked for cargo.

Also never lost a roc on it but I'd it reversed or glitches so bad it blew up the ship sometimes

Cutlass deffo is a starter roc carrier for me

[marble crater]

on the flipside the Nomad could be a nice addition to a pirate fleet for extremely quick loading

[misty coyote]

That is a really good point...You could use it like a catchers mitt

[misty coyote]

And it has a tractor beam in the back to IIRC

[fresh flame]

I broke down a 5k mass, 10% Quantanium rock but none of the pieces had Quantanium. Nearby, I broke down a 4k mass 40% Quantanium rock but it only gave about 250 mass worth of Quant. Is this a bug, or am I possibly losing Quant by dipping into overcharge a bit, or losing some through some quicks of my modules?

[rugged axle]

modules wont lose quant.
red zone will. even if your just barely in it when it cracks, youll lose quant

[fresh flame]

good to know, thanks

also is there any way to tell how many charges are left on a module?

I only had one left on my module, and I want to discard it and put a new one on

but at the station I can't tell

[rugged axle]

mining mode, look up{in prospector}, find the numbers 1,2,3 hold f and point at them

[fresh flame]

i mean when i'm trying to swap for a new one in the station

[rugged axle]

you cant tell from outside

[fresh flame]

so it's impossible to switch to a "full" module?

[rugged axle]

also, if your mining planet side. some of your quant may have fallen into the planet

correct, best to use all uses

[fresh flame]

that seems to be the only way

back to the red zone thing, does it matter if there's any lingering red zone, or only if the power is in the red zone when it cracks?

like let's say I had it in the red zone, let it get back down to green, and it cracks while in the green but there's still some red zone bar

[rugged axle]

if theres anything in red when it cracks, it counts.

[fresh flame]

ok

so best to be really careful there

[rugged axle]

if you get in red, let it cool down completely{whole red bar depleted} before finishing the crack

[fresh flame]

thanks

[rugged axle]

ive had even just a sliver send fragments miles

[rose cove]

Is the Refinery Shops still glitched? I can see the modules but it's 0 quantity. And Quick Buy isn't working.

[rugged axle]

shouldnt be

[fresh flame]

@rugged axle I seem to have a phantom module. I used the remaining charges in the hangar, stored the ship. It was down to zero charges. There are only 4 in local inventory but when I go into my ship screen it says there are 5, and equips the zero charge one. Any idea on a workaround?

never mind i logged out and back in, dropped the last one on the floor and it seems like that was the one

[ivory gust]

Check to make sure you're buying to station inventory, not your backpack or pockets

[rugged axle]

Welcome to star citizen lol

[scenic finch]

Wanting to get a dedicated cargo ship basically for running my refined quant to sell. With multiple work orders my cutty I have to do a lot of trips. What would be a decent cargo ship?

[rose cove]

I'm perfectly happy with my Connie for quant cargo.

This is odd I feel like these rocks aren't cracking like they used to. Running a Lancet + a torrent and still finding a lot of rocks I can't handle.

[ivory gust]

(copy/pasted from an earlier post)

If you're renting, Cutlass can carry 46 SCU (4600 units), and can be rented at the refinery itself. Freelancer 66 SCU and Andromeda 96 SCU, can be rented on some planets.

Long term, you'll probably want to buy your own hauler.

Worthwhile purchasing options:
Argo RAFT: 96 SCU, 1.9M aUEC
MISC Freelancer MAX: 120 SCU, 2.2M aUEC
RSI Constellation Taurus: 174 SCU, 3.3M aUEC
Drake Caterpillar: 564 SCU, 4.7M aUEC
Crusader C2 Hercules Starlifter: 696 SCU, 4.9M aUEC

[ivory gust]

Need surge + Stampede to break rocks over about 5500 with a lancet

[scenic finch]

Lord that c2 storage. I might have to consider that as a dedicated hauler

[ivory gust]

It's by far the best hauler currently in the game, and currently makes the Caterpillar basically obsolete

[rose cove]

Yeah I'm trying a surge+stampede

[hardy mesa]

Can't wait for hull c at 4600 scu

[north oyster]

The hauls in the big Hull ships will most of the time be missions. I think it'll be awesome, nonetheless

[pliant matrix]

You couldn't fill a 4600scu ship with current stocks anyway

[north oyster]

Nor hardly afford to even if you could

[misty coyote]

460 creds for waste.... Easy

[north oyster]

What to do with it after that, LOL

Hey captain, that's nice ship! What do you do with your Hull C?
It's a garbage truck

[lyric patrol]

Is it even possible to fill a C2 right now with laranite? I have to fly to 2 locations with my 96Scu aquila as it is

[north oyster]

No, Laranite is highly restricted

[worthy scroll]

Only if you get extremely lucky or have the patience to wait around and fill it. But that would be a net loss compared to just topping off with titanium or whatever else and selling fast.

The most laranite I've seen in months was a purchase of a bit over 480k yesterday. That is incredibly rare, you're usually only going to get one, maybe two restock ticks.

Standard practice is grab what's there and then fill up on the next best thing.

[pliant matrix]

I did it once to fill my c2 with laranite. It was more than a year ago and I lost the cargo on a 30k...

[north oyster]

Now 30Ks are handled and Laranite is throttled

[pliant matrix]

as far as i remember Laranite was always rare stuff but yeah I wish 30k was handled at that time

would corsair be a good option for roc mining? ramp look wide enough to get in comfortably

[misty coyote]

/shrug I dunno....

It would be sweet to be paid for taking it and paid for dropping it off at certain places

[worthy scroll]

When the ship comes out we can answer that.

[pliant matrix]

It's supposed to be out at iae right?

[worthy scroll]

Yep.

[pliant matrix]

still not in ptu? iirc ship that get released for iae are launched in ptu around a week before

[worthy scroll]

Nope, they haven't included it.

[pliant matrix]

weird

[misty coyote]

Game loop for garbage....

Collect it from places that have an abundance where its a problem and get paid...

Sell it to outposts and settlements that have bio fuel processing stations, or use it for player owned facilities....

I could get a job at CIG easy! I just suggested a thing, and will never deliver it....

[ivory gust]

The biggest issue I see for using the Corsair for ROC mining is the size--it's closer to a Constellation or MSR in length than a Cutlass, so parking it close to deposits might be hard

[pliant matrix]

parking msr wasn't that hard and well FL max is pretty big too and it works fine. Cutlass do make is easy yeah

[ivory gust]

Corsair should be easier than the MSR since it's nowhere near as bloated

[pliant matrix]

yup

tho less nimble than msr probably

but well I might upgrade my FL max to it if it's funnier to fly

Max cockpit really isn't comfortable to me

[worthy scroll]

Part of that has been in the game for years, waste removal missions.

[hardy mesa]

Nomad is my favorite for roc to this day

[pliant matrix]

I'd lot of bugs with roc on nomad and path to the cockpit is longer than with a cutlass but it's really good to move and scan yeah

[ivory gust]

Carrack is by far the best for ROC mining

[quaint salmon]

where i sell my gems from ROC mining ?

admin ?

[jovial matrix]

the admin office at any station or city, or at any mining outpost

[quaint salmon]

thx ! :3

was about to learn refining

so lost that gal

another question .. 🙂
anyway to transfer all my gems in one shot ? Or i have to move them one by one ???

[jovial matrix]

gotta do it one by one sadly

[quaint salmon]

my wrist dont like it 😛

thanks for all the good info btw !

[jovial matrix]

yup, np

[vestal ravine]

I tried it with Agricium. Got up to 45% over 8 trips then everything went south and I lost it all.

[jovial matrix]

I just found out that you can buy neon, E'tam, and widow from outpost 54 on microtech

i dont think Ive ever seen this oupost mentioned online before

[misty coyote]

Yeah... But you're only talking a few boxes, this would be ships full.

[idle jolt]

Anyone wanna come do some mining

[torn shell]

Whats the most profitable cargo trading route and which commodity to buy

Im in a c2

[amber sphinx]

and the only place to sell those drugs is at Grim Hex

[unborn juniper]

any1 wanna hop in a call and do some missions?
im kinda new but know the basics and the jist of the game
i like to do some mining missions and learn how to do them

[spring prism]

What ship that's as fast as the 100-series of origin and has internal space for box deliveries, do you recommend to someone? Can't be Mustang or Aurora.

[pliant matrix]

I think Titan is close in speed and have an easy in/out access to cargo room

Nomad is also quite fast

both have better afterburner speed but lower "normal" speed

but well tbh 100 is fast because small so you hardly can have both space and speed

btw 300 series is faster then titan and nomad and also can take boxes

[sonic laurel]

how are the prices?

[spring prism]

Lot of people say "Origin Bad" so I was hoping for non-origin recommendations. To see if there wasn't anything.

Guess I'll have to wait until the Cutter

[pliant matrix]

Origin isn't bad. it's just not meta. but well if you want a fancy car to take boxes and do easy bounties 325a (or titan/nomad) are very good and cheap
But if you really want as fast than 100 and with inside space 300 series is what is best at it

[spring prism]

non-origin seems to have the Avenger Warlock be the choice, since it has the least mass out of the avengers. But the internal space is only in the back, and you can't get to it from the pilot.

And yeah, I had the 315p at one point. It's good for that sort of thing, but the wind on certain moons/planets pushes it around so easily. Plus the windshield issue: https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-43595

[pliant matrix]

Isn't warlock the emp one? Or the prison one I don't remember

[spring prism]

Warlock is EMP, Stalker is Bounty. Stalker's got access to the pilot/back via a door, the warlock doesn't.

[pliant matrix]

Yeah well then there are no space at the back with warlock since it's emp engine

[spring prism]

It has a catwalk where you can place a handful of boxes, similar to the small 100i cargo area. It was also confirmed by CIG that with the cargo refactor, any cargo boxes you add past the limit will count as "Loose" similar to box delivery boxes/etc. So the warlock could potentially hold "Loose" Cargo if it wanted.

[hasty stump]

The 135c has an extra 4 scu of cargo space in the back

That or a Reliant. Love me the Reliants, though you can't bedlog in them

[fresh flame]

how do you taka a mining gadget off a rock when it's already on?

nevermind, i see the detach button

[misty coyote]

They are adding a button for the bed wielding variants so you can switch flight modes from the interior

[hasty stump]

I didn't know that, that's perfect

[misty coyote]

Yeah.... The Tana will become my go to light fighter when that happens.... I like logging in ready for action.

[sonic laurel]

hell yeah brother!

Tana gang gang

[north oyster]

On the premise bed log works. Hasn't the last 5 times I tried on the Prospector

[jovial matrix]

Incorrect

Also I already know where you can and can’t sell drugs

[jovial matrix]

It was 28k for neon, 34k for E’tam, and 40k for widow. For 4SCU of each

[pliant matrix]

Is it still a pain to sell vice tho? Delays were so long it took me an hour to sell 10scu of Etam some years ago

[jovial matrix]

depends

neon and E'tam can be sold in batches of 10SCU at a time pretty reliably

widow and slam take literal ages to sell any amount of

[pliant matrix]

Nice

I liked selling vice when I started playing

[jovial matrix]

I like the idea of it, but it takes awhile

cause you have to warp between crusader and hurston for every load

[pliant matrix]

It's the first thing I did with my starter titan three years ago xD

It was a good money maker back then

[jovial matrix]

yeah

[sonic laurel]

What was the total profit?

[jovial matrix]

I didnt buy any

[vestal ravine]

A Nomad with Slam at Crul5 20 Sales for 89k profit.

[hollow sedge]

Is the Railen expected anytime soon? Been looking at potential ships to get during IAE and this one caught my eye.

[spring prism]

Railen isn't in production. Still concept phase.

[sonic laurel]

Bought from where?

[vestal ravine]

Go to the site Called Private Property. They single fill the Nomad every time. Not sure about bigger ships. Then I keep it at L5 until it all gets sold.

[tulip walrus]

what is actual mining location now ? if i have a rented Prospector

[rugged axle]

Asteroid belt. Look for anything not a Q rock

[tulip walrus]

Asteroid belt is hidden on the map, as i understand ?

[rugged axle]

yes, theres plenty of resources to find it. depending on where your leaving from and where you want to point towards

[hot cedar]

Yo

So like

What's the consensus on TITA

Too risky?

[hasty stump]

TITA?

[ivory gust]

It shows up if you zoom at the right angle, but you'd want to use something like https://cstone.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes to get there

[vestal ravine]

TITA: Someone's Aunt or a strong and dominant women.

[hot cedar]

Titanium

lmao

[edgy furnace]

Nah not risky

Full C2 cargo is only like 500k

For 100k profit

5 runs and you've made what you could potentially lose

Just don't fly like a fool

[ivory gust]

I mean that's literally the riskiest money making option in game currently? No other gameplay loop has the potential to leave you significantly below the money you started with, and nothing to show for it

[edgy furnace]

It's also one of the easiest 🤷‍♂️

Takes 20 mins

[spring prism]

ROC Mining would take nearly an hour to get only slightly more, and it has the risk of 30k. RMC with the vulture will provide an alternative that's wholly ship-based but similar to ROC Mining.

[edgy furnace]

Besides, he asked about the risk - the risk of 500k for a full load of TITA vs, say, LARA which is over 2m

Tita is the sweet spot between making money and not overinvesting imo

[ivory gust]

You literally can't get a full C2 load of laranite regularly though, so it's academic to discuss it

[ivory gust]

Except the absolute worst day you could ever have ROC mining, you're not going to end the day with significantly less money than you started it with, which isn't the case for cargo hauling currently

[cerulean lichen]

Hull B should be on sale at IAE right?

[spring prism]

!iae_s

[wary tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1039886441355944056/1039887214420709516/sc-iae2952-eventprogram-web-21-9.png

[spring prism]

All of the ships will be available. All of Drake on the first day, then drake and Origin on the second. Then Drake, Aegis and Origin on the third day. And so forth.

RSI Day (26th) onward until the 30th will have all of them. CCU Game will perform best on the 26th - 30th.

[hasty stump]

What would a good ccu chain look like for a 600i?

Like, how much could one expect to save if starting from scratch?

[visual prism]

If I max out the roc could I mine medium rocks?

[topaz burrow]

how do you mean "max out the roc"
Roc can only mine minerals

[visual prism]

Like upgrading

[granite iris]

Drake on top

[topaz burrow]

no, you can't upgrade ROC's laser. Still only minerals

[cerulean lichen]

Think I may pick up the Hull B then. C is to big for me to solo but B could be a fun one to have in my mining set up.

[ivory gust]

Note that Hull B is a couple years away at least, it's not currently in active development

[ivory gust]

Hmmm, are you sure that all sales will persist every day? I've heard that in previous years only the day's manufacturers have deals, and then all deals repeat in the last couple days

[visual prism]

what rocks couldi mine?

[jovial matrix]

As mentioned, nothing that you can upgrade on the ROC will impact what you can and cannot mine, so there’s no way for a ROC to mine “medium rocks,” whatever that means

[jovial matrix]

ROC rocks are about as tall as your character, and will appear as blue diamond icons when you scan. Depending on the ship, you can detect ROC mineable rocks from about 3 kilometers away. Keep in mind that hand mineable rocks also appear as diamond icons, but will be much smaller and will only be detected on a scan at about 1 kilometer away and under

[ivory gust]

ROC can only mine gems. Dolovine, aphorite, hadanite

[boreal ginkgo]

so whenever i get gems off another player in the caves, i cannot sell them. i've tried the no questions asked consoles and still can't sell them. are you just not able to sell gems you took off another player?

[jovial matrix]

You’re selling them to an admin office, correct? Also, those are NPC’s, not players

[cerulean lichen]

I’m fine waiting and it was just an idea I had so not sure if I’d actually do it or not. Currently the C1 is planned to be my quant hauler since I usually sell quant by 2 prospector loads. So a Hull series was looking at maybe a future of exclusive trading for me.

[jovial matrix]

Wouldn’t you run out of room in the C1 for 2 prospector loads?

[ivory gust]

C1 and cutlass aren't great for that since they can only hold 1.5 loads.

[cerulean lichen]

Yah. I really need a better cargo ship in the near future. Especially with cargo missions being planned

[ivory gust]

If you end up with a bunch of loads to carry, can always haul one with the C1, then rent an Andromeda and use that to do 3 loads at a time

[cerulean lichen]

Hmm that could work nicely for now. Especially as with the revenue quant brings in a few small loads and renting or even buying a Connie to transport more would be easy to do

[ivory gust]

Wouldn't recommend buying a Constellation just for that, although if you want it for other reasons it is useful for that

[mighty prawn]

https://ccugame.app/

[hasty stump]

Oh, awesome, thank you. Wasn't expecting an answer because I realised way too late I asked in totally the wrong channel

[boreal ginkgo]

selling to admin, yes. and no, they were from a player, killed him outside the cave. i can sell gems i get off npc, but not off players.

[jovial matrix]

Ah I see

I dunno why you can’t sell them then, my bad

[ivory gust]

So you ruined his day and you want to profit off his work?

[boreal ginkgo]

ran into each other, shot first, asked questions later lol

[jovial matrix]

As you should

[boreal ginkgo]

second time this has happened, first time i just though maybe the gems got bugged, but now a second time, it can't be

[jovial matrix]

Yeah

Never had this happen so idk why it’s happening, but it’s definitely weird

[boreal ginkgo]

have you personally taken gems off another player and sold them?

[jovial matrix]

No

I have stolen the gems out of someone’s ROC, but never got to sell them

[north oyster]

You generally want to get a CCU that is from a ship always available or have a chain that starts with a ship/vehicle always in the store

But regardless, twice a year most all ships are for sell

Price is no longer locked in on CCUs you sell back, if I understand it correctly

[mighty prawn]

so, not many good CCU chain going to start from STV? since STV is not always available in store? I have STV with LTI and I was hoping to snag Corsair

[mighty prawn]

Would they also offer LTI or 10 year insurance when this happens?

[north oyster]

The LTI or 10 is only offered when a new item is rolled out. That's why they are called LTI tokens. You'd want to buy a couple of these $40 or do dollar vehicles to use in a CCU chain

I bought a Mule, the MTX, STV and a couple of other low cost vehicles that serve a the start of the CCU chain. All my ships were either chained or bought with LTI. The 400i that I have with LTI is actually the token for my CCU up to the Hull C.

[mighty prawn]

ok

[north oyster]

I have a CCU chain from my C2 to the BMM when it comes out

Some claim that the CCU Game is the true game in SC, LOL

[north oyster]

The STV will make a great CCU to Corsair base

But you can also get the Corsair with 10yr or LTI when it is rolled out at IAE next week (I'm betting)

[mighty prawn]

ok, in that case, I might opt to keep my STV and upgrade my starter Titan to Corsair if I get a LTI or 10 year insurance

I just have to buy some ships in the middle to work towards Corsair through a chain, right?

[north oyster]

Well, remember the Insurance from what you CCU from is what insurance it will have, unless they do offer an upgrade (and they have) with enhanced insurance

No, you can go straight to the Corsair from the STV

You don't have to hop

[mighty prawn]

yeah, I am hoping when COrsair comes in they may offer enhanced insurance, if not, I will use up my STV with LTI

Would I be able to upgrade my starter Titan to a warbonded ship / concept ship? I know I will get a loaner since that new ship is not out yet. But is this possible?

or is warbond offer is if we spend the whole amount with money

I know store credits cannot be used, but what about a package?

[onyx lake]

There are both Warbond CCUs (Ship Upgrades section of the store page) and Warbond ships. Warbond means that no store credit is being applied to the purchase. Usually Warbond CCUs and Ships have a small discount on them. When ships are either released as Concept for the first time or Flyable for the first time, they usually have Warbond LTI purchase and CCU options. As long as there is a CCU from the ship you currently have going to the ship you want, you can CCU to it unless there is some weird exception to that that I do not know about.

[ivory gust]

You don't have to but you may save more money that way

[north oyster]

The CCU Game has so many venues and methods, the main thing is "don't over spend" and also feel good about your pledge. I don't regret a single dollar I have put towards the project, though, l measure what I wish to put towards pledges on a yearly basis. It's my guilty pleasure for myself.

I would encourage you to learn as much as possible and watch multiple different videos on it. One of my guides was Leadnap Gaming, he does an absolute excellent job of guiding with the CCU process. Look him up @mighty prawn , I would recommend spending time getting up to speed on the "Game"

[mighty prawn]

Thanks all. The sale is open for many days, is there a limit of the number of CCU chains I can do in one go? like would I only be able to upgrade on a package through CCU only once per event?

[hollow sedge]

Nope

As long as you got the funds

You can ccu all you want

[north oyster]

many of us have pledged with a comma in our efforts, but watch out because CIG is a pro at selling pixels. They also introduced a manufactured scarcity that doesn't exist and makes you feel like you have to buy it now! This scarcity isn't so, it's manufactured. Because every year, twice a year, practically all ships become available to purchase.

[hasty stump]

Also, sometimes you pledge a ship that they do a great job of marketing and then it falls off the progress tracker and you don't know if you'll get that ship in your lifetime

Looking at you, my beloved Railen

(I made it about cargo again look at me go)

[safe notch]

Stupid question time: how can I move cargo between my ships?

[ivory gust]

You can't

[jovial matrix]

you cant move cargo that is bought at a terminal between ships

[safe notch]

Dang. Okay.

[spring prism]

The dream. (There's a glitch that happens that causes this to appear briefly.)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/92000849236066304/1028949593863499786/unknown.png

[wind coral]

Dont worry there is a glitch where you can hold 4000% in your character’s backpack

[smoky mortar]

Also looking at the Hull C.

[north oyster]

I got caught up with the Odyssey. After the FAQ, which revealed the ship wouldn't do what might thought it could do, I just told CIG to give me a full refund

[smoky mortar]

I was fully set on getting one at IAE but after a few videos, realized it wasn’t what I was looking for and it’ll be far too long of a wait.

[north oyster]

The rumored new RSI ship might fit that bill

[smoky mortar]

Oh I am very interested in the Galaxy. But for now, the Carrack will do.

[tight latch]

What was the recent update about just a bug patch??

[north oyster]

The 3.17.3 actually brought a whole lot more stuff with it than just taking care of bugs (and it brought some of it's own bugs too, of course!!). The upcoming 3.17.4 will be the IAE patch that will have some items originally scheduled for the monster patch 3.18.

I will be very surprised if 3.18 makes it this year

[merry shell]

whats the best permanent module loadout for the prospector

[misty coyote]

Lancet mining head.... Go bare bones

[merry shell]

Alright

[misty coyote]

Ah the QT needs a tweak too...get something faster.

I don't think you'll need a long range really....likely going from moon to Lagrange point..

You said module....nvm

[north oyster]

Remember that any modules you add to the laser head, either active or passive, will get lost when you have to reclaim the ship. The Lancet is meta for mining at this time. If Mining in the Halo, you don't really need anything else except maybe the Surge to speed up the mining process. For surface mining, the Surge and Stampede will be needed for larger rocks. There is a pinned doc at the top that covers some ideas on different loadouts. For Quantum Engine I would recommend the Atlas. Best blend of speed and fuel efficiency

[north spear]

Are there any specific groups or somethin i can join to work on a mole? Been getting into roc mining and wanna try mining with a crew

[pliant matrix]

Modules should be seen as ship parts like shields/QT engine/coolers imo. Some modules cost a lot and having to buy them only because of a claim sucks

[north oyster]

The LOST Corp is pretty active as a rule. I've not seen @thin escarp in awhile, but the group is still active

[north oyster]

The Prospector is pretty much solid straight OEM, even with the industrial Quantum drive. The Laser head is the only weak spot

[north spear]

Ah ok. Is that an organization i gotta join or somethin?

[north oyster]

No, they allow others to tag along

[merry shell]

I have made my scan angle really small and now I cant widen it again can anyone help

[north oyster]

I can chat in their forum for info if you wish

[pliant matrix]

I meant modules (buffs) you use on head should be permanent like for guns or other parts

[north oyster]

depends on the mapping, or you may need to setup the mapping for it

[merry shell]

Ill check

[north oyster]

yeah, the passive modules should persist but unfortunately do not

[north spear]

Ill be fine for now. I cant rly play rn cuz im in class til like 5 just curious what groups there were and how id go about joining

[north oyster]

there are a number of them and also several on this forum that also have the MOLE and often do party mining

[merry shell]

How close should the 2 diamonds be?

[north oyster]

diamonds? You running a ROC?

[merry shell]

I mean the little white diamonds that represent the amount of rocks

[north oyster]

ah, rgr, you can narrow scan them at 12K or less to ID them

[merry shell]

Alright thanks

[north oyster]

The 2 degree scan will allow you to know what they are OR if they are duds

[thin escarp]

@north oyster

[north oyster]

My Man! Good to see you! Been a minute

[thin escarp]

good to see ya too man.

[north oyster]

Is it ok to still ping you for mining stuff or is that on pause for now?

[thin escarp]

Always.

[north oyster]

I'm being crushed by RL obligations, so my visits in the 'verse have been suffering. I think I'm on the verge of DT's

from the withdraws

[north oyster]

Did you watch the video on active ping scanning?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz8TOCUa0Ms

[rugged axle]

@north spear if you just want to experience mole mining, hit me up this weekend and I'll take you out.

Mole mining is the easiest mining in the game 🙂

[north spear]

Bet man ill fs take u up on that

[shrewd meadow]

could anyone please help me with mining gems i just barely started and the fact that my graycat is acting up does not help

[north oyster]

There are some strange things happening, like the laser might not work or the collector might not work

Normally doing a power cycle helps, or shutting down, getting out and back in and powering back up

[celest bay]

what are best mining modules for quantanium? currently i use a lancet mh1 with surge, stampede, and opdium

idk how to activate them tho

[prime pine]

That's one of my favorite combos

[valid shoal]

Hello ! Any good traderoutes right now? Kinda want to space truck tonight

[cerulean lichen]

Titanium from moons of Hurston to Lorville can be good. Just depends on the buy price of titanium

[visual prism]

Where can I find the cargo stock thing so I know where I can sell my cargo

[mighty prawn]

https://sc-trade.tools/home this?

[jovial matrix]

https://uexcorp.space or perhaps this?

[visual prism]

thx to both

[pliant matrix]

Did any of you tried corsair for roc mining?

[mighty prawn]

I am thinking of trying that on Friday

[north oyster]

She's a little large for regular ROC mining but makes a great ship to do it. I did a quick tour of the ship this morning, that ramp is awesome wide (way wider than a MAX). Fun ship

[jovial matrix]

Dude the corsairs backend is so big

[north oyster]

BTW, Noobifier is having a drawing to win a Corsair, just comment on his video for the drawing. I would recommend checking it out.

[jovial matrix]

It caught me off guard when I first saw it, it doesn’t fit in with the rest of the ship lol

[north oyster]

She's a big bottom girl, that's for sure

[pliant matrix]

let's be honest Corsair isn't made to be pretty at all. it's all practical

[pliant matrix]

thx I'd doubt about getting one. Will still give it a try on friday myself but it's teasing me a lot

Still unsure tho about corsair or taurus

[jovial matrix]

Yeah I know

[pliant matrix]

but corsair big pewpew is a sexy too xD

[sonic laurel]

just fit all max sized laser scatter guns

no one gets any fps

[pliant matrix]

btw. Is corsair given to ptu users or only those who already bought it can use it?

[jovial matrix]

Have fun hitting literally nothing with those lmao

[jovial matrix]

Anyone in the PTU has access to it

[pliant matrix]

let's fill my ssd with another copy of SC

[sonic laurel]

it's not about winning. It's about ensuring everyone loses.

[pliant matrix]

Damn I can't instal ptu on another drive than live one so I'm stuck...

[sonic laurel]

just delete your homework folder

make some room

[pliant matrix]

gotta free 100Go... wont be easy

sorry steam files you're going to the storage room xD

Is it safe to just make a copy of live and dll the last ptu patch? or better dll it all?

[mighty prawn]

Width is fine, but the height of the Corsair's cargo hold? I saw someone put a rover into Corsair and it was a tight fit for the height. I am not sure if ROC will hold up in height

Ursa's height is listed as 2.2 m and ROC's listed height is 3.1 m

Unless the spec on these are outdated, that's possible for the official website

[north oyster]

CIG would be pretty silly if the Corsair couldn't carry a ROC, wait . . I think a 400i just entered the conversation

I'll let you know, I'm about to head that way

[mighty prawn]

Yes, I thought so too. But I think the official height for Ursa in the website is wrong. The Ursa does NOT look like 2.2m.

[jovial matrix]

I wouldn't trust the RSI website for ship stats and stuff

its known to be unreliable

[mighty prawn]

Good, then there's hope for ROC in a Corsair

Just does not look like 2.2m height for Ursa:

[pliant matrix]

from the vid I saw of corsair height looks sufficient for a rov but I'll try to verify that asap. Cargo room seems way bigger and higher than my max actually

[mighty prawn]

Erkul games says Ursa is 3.5m in height

[pliant matrix]

erkul isn't very accurate about vehicules size too tbh.

it gives the same size to all cyclones when some are deffo higher than others

[jovial matrix]

well they're taller because of their turrets. The chassis is the same size

[pliant matrix]

I'm now getting in ptu so I'll tell you very soon if it fits

lmao got a 30k even before getting into the server

[pallid temple]

The ROC easily fits in the Corsair

With no trouble

[pliant matrix]

Yeah it seems way high enough to fit

[north oyster]

Also, for those who don't have room on their SSD, clear all your refineries in LIVE. Then after closing all your business on the LIVE server, say "Goodbye" and then rename the game folder from LIVE to PTU. Then, when the game goes LIVE, just rename the folder back to LIVE

[pliant matrix]

@mighty prawn it takes more room than I tho but definitely get in easy

[north oyster]

Shooting off all those guns from the Pilot Seat is pure crazy

The ROC-DS would fit also, I bet

[pliant matrix]

it can take 4 by squeezing a bit

[north oyster]

Easy for two to fit

[mighty prawn]

Thank you, looks good

[pliant matrix]

how weird. the elevator take you to the roof xD

time to try those guns on claimjumpers

[mighty prawn]

Were you able to find all the sentries in those missions? I tried once and got only 6 out of 9

Those sentries were also NOT firing at me

[pliant matrix]

nha I gave up. After killing something like twenty prospectors

shields didn't flinched tho

even tho I made some frontal crash on them

[jovial matrix]

turns out mining in prison is pretty decent

thats almost the same as the highest payout from an oxygen mission. Sure, might've taken a little longer, but at least its viable

also, dont bother mining any of the aphorite. Its worth so little that you're better off searching for more dolovine/hadanite

[ivory gust]

Odd that aphorite is the least valuable in prison, in the rest of the world dolovine is the lowest

[jovial matrix]

yeah

[misty coyote]

I really think that they have made a mistake in the pricing of Dolvine...

It's the hardest to mine, explosive yet the least valuable

[north oyster]

CIG's Summer intern students probably set this system up. It'll take awhile for the upside down system to be corrected, sort of like Trading

[misty coyote]

So the "Soft Death" for ships is going to be interesting...

If they do the right thing....Then this is going to be great for pirates, but equally, fun for haulers and maybe tugs and repairing

How they will do it, is you're gonna lose your cargo...Might as well set the ship to self destruct

[pliant matrix]

soft death means your ship will be out of function but still there to be raided (cargo guns or whatever)?

if so I'd rather blew it off yeah. With pirates in it 😛

[misty coyote]

Feels like, and wishful thinking here, there is something to be added they haven't told us about.

Like "YEah soft deaths"

Then on release

"Oh, but patch repairs!"

[nocturne hamlet]

Is there anything I need in specific to mine quantum in my prospector?

[nocturne hamlet]

Someone in chat said something about a special drill laser

[worn dock]

lancet head is the go-to

[nocturne hamlet]

Thank you

[north oyster]

If you're mining on the surface, you will want to consider having the Surge and also the Stampede. Be careful with the Surge and read up on it because if you mess up, you're dead. Also, if you want to mine in the Halo, you will want to know about Active Angle scanning with Ping. There is also cornerstone that has a document of all the distances to find the Halo.

[worn dock]

This series is what I used to learn how to mine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExMVXVWHiAQ&list=PLMd2J1iNJCMeRTQ6z3IryoICCKVwVCEdz&ab_channel=RedMonsterSC

[hoary monolith]

I took some time off of SC and am going to be starting again with the next patch. What do you think will be more profitable/fun: prospector or vulture?

[pliant matrix]

Vulture salvage gameplay isn't there yet (soon™️ ) so I'd say go for Prospector. Mining gameplay changed a lot depending how long you've been away. Watching a guide could help

[north oyster]

With the new patch coming tomorrow, everyone needs to make sure they have cleared all their refinery jobs

[north oyster]

You have come back just in time for IAE, so you will get a chance to fly all the ships into verse. Lots of fun things coming down the pike but I think 3.18 is going to be a rough ride in the beginning

I believe it is overly optimistic to think we will see it in December, I'm leaning towards first of next year but that is just me

[hoary monolith]

I've done a lot of mining in the past, but I'm wondering how T0 salvage will be working. I have a Vulture CCU, but now I'm debating if hull stripping will be as fun or profitable.

[north oyster]

I'm sort of anticipating it being very similar to the mining model but obviously with some twist

I went ahead and got the vulture to be able to jump in as soon as it opens up

[worn dock]

saw somewhere that salvage T0 will not have refining of scrap, so the value of hull scraping won't be where they intend it to be at first.

[north oyster]

Well, maybe to incentivize, they may have hull scraping where you can earn as good coin as doing Quantainium mining

When ROC mining was introduced, they had planets that were 100% hadanite

[jovial matrix]

I hope hulk scraping makes decent money

I suppose it would most likely have to, otherwise people would use the vulture/reclaimer like 3 times and then never touch them again

[north oyster]

Tier zero will certainly need a fair amount of tweaking. I hope they error to the side of too lucrative to begin with just to get the numbers up

[jovial matrix]

Yeah

[hoary monolith]

I'm hoping that it will skip the refining step and be as profitable per hour due to no hauling

[worn dock]

I'm waiting on the Vulcan to be a "space AAA" truck when people break down.

[hoary monolith]

smaller, more frequent payouts

[worn dock]

but that will be using player-controlled drones, so it will probably be a couple of years yet

[hoary monolith]

hauling refined stuff was my least favorite part of mining

[misty coyote]

With soft death coming in, they need to add something quick to stop the soft part from just auto self destruct time.

Like patching up your QT with salvage gloop?

Not where its going to end up, but closes a loop they could leave open

[worn dock]

holy crap. The Vulcan was announced four years ago, and still isn't even on the roadmap

[sonic laurel]

First time?

[worn dock]

lol

[pliant matrix]

Imagine those who bought 1k or more ships some years ago and won't see them until like 4-5 years

[nocturne hamlet]

Is there a best place to sell refined Quant?

[jovial matrix]

Any city at the TDD (trade and development division)

[nocturne hamlet]

And can I transport it in one of my cargo ships or do I use prospector again? Thnx

[worthy scroll]

You need a cargo ship.

[jovial matrix]

You’ll need a different ship with enough cargo space

What ships do you have?

[nocturne hamlet]

Biggest is Connie Taurus

[jovial matrix]

Ah, that ll do just fine them

[nocturne hamlet]

Cool

See if I can get it sold before 2100 shutdown

[north oyster]

3.17.4 going LIVE

[jovial matrix]

Yo 3.14.4? Been waiting for that update to drop for so long

[north oyster]

On a phone, not easy to type

[jovial matrix]

All good lol

[nocturne hamlet]

I wish my Connie didn’t take quarter of an hour to be claimed. Just coz its in a planets different hanger

[north oyster]

I might be wrong but this will probably have a character reset, but maybe not

[nocturne hamlet]

If I had thought about it I would have ordered the Connie when I put the quant in the refinery 🤦‍♂️

[north oyster]

Might be worth flying to go get it

[nocturne hamlet]

Would they do that when the wipe is coming next month?

[north oyster]

No wipe coming unless 3.18 does push

[jovial matrix]

The 3.18 wipe is gonna be more than a character reset

It’ll get rid of all items obtained ingame as well as resetting your character

[north oyster]

I, for one, am pessimistic about 3.18 this year

It's a massive monster of a change

[jovial matrix]

Yeah

I’m not too worried about when it’ll release

It’ll release when it does, not much we can do about it

[north oyster]

Glad to see 3.17.4 go live, now I can remove one of my 3 copies of SC on my SSD

[jovial matrix]

3?

[nocturne hamlet]

Well I have 43 minutes to sell stuff

[jovial matrix]

You can do it

[north oyster]

Live, PTU and EPTU

[jovial matrix]

What is EPTU

[nocturne hamlet]

Get ship, load ship, fly to area 18, sell stuff

[north oyster]

Other test group, evocati

[jovial matrix]

Ah ok

[nocturne hamlet]

I have to say this Connie is a beast but I prefer the sexy voice of my freelancer AI

Let’s hope I get a good price for this smidgen of quant I mined

Right landed stored and now legging it to the sell point lmao

[north oyster]

Any Quan mined, is good Quan

[nocturne hamlet]

It was a 4200 at 12%

[north oyster]

The yield is what matters. So if 20 SCU, multiply 2000 x 88

[nocturne hamlet]

Okay 33k not bad for a first attempt

[north oyster]

FTW, congratulations

[nocturne hamlet]

That more than paid for the prospector upgrades

[north oyster]

Once you get comfortable with the process, you can make up to 270K aUEC per trip

Use the correct process to

Dinyx or Ferron

[nocturne hamlet]

What? Lol correct process?

I need to look at this

[jovial matrix]

Different processes have different yields, the higher the better obviously

[ivory gust]

Dinyx has highest yield, lowest cost, but takes a long time. Ferron is 3x faster for 2x the cost, same yield

[reef smelt]

Is the Mule good?

[jovial matrix]

Its like a smaller ursa for one person

Less storage, and it’s all external, but its got room for guns with the gun rack and (eventually) 2x 1SCU boxes

[reef smelt]

I’m the thinking of exchanging my hover quad for the mule with store credit so that I can have it to load my freelancer max.

[jovial matrix]

It’s definitely better than a hoverquad

[reef smelt]

Do you know if the forklift arms will work with 3.18?

[jovial matrix]

No clue

[ivory gust]

Honestly, neither is worth having as a pledge. Ground vehicles are incredibly cheap to buy in-game

[reef smelt]

True

[reef smelt]

But the hover quad was gifted and I can’t melt it down so I might as well get a Mule

[ivory gust]

Alternately, you could upgrade it to a useful other ship

We also don't know yet how manually loading cargo onto ships will work, or how useful the Mule will be useful for that, so I wouldn't recommend getting one now for that purpose

[reef smelt]

I only have 15 dollars in store credit tho

[ivory gust]

That's enough for a Pisces, which would be a lot more expensive to pick up in game than a Mule (when that's available) and also a lot more useful.

Honestly I'd recommend just saving it for now unless there's something specific you're wanting during IAE, in which case I'd build toward that

[tight latch]

I'm curious about the progress of the refinery ship

[tight sapphire]

do the ore sales kiosk in the refinery on Mic L1 not work, I cannot select my ship to sell from

[ivory gust]

Lots of the ore sales kiosks are broken, you'll probably need to refine instead of selling the raw stuff

[tight sapphire]

that's what I have been doing, but being newer to the game and this is my first time mining I was just wondering if it was a known issue. luckily for me there is a free fly so I can rent a ship to haul my goods tomorrow 🙂

[fierce haven]

is no location buying Agricium anymore? yesterday I could sell at NB but today they're not buying...

[north oyster]

It's basically an LTI token. It'll be over a year before it has an actual role in the game. After that it'll be dirt cheap to buy in game

[north oyster]

Is this cargo you bought at an outpost? Also, are you selling at the TDD and not the Admin office, right?

Agricium is normally always in demand at the TDD or CBD

[dawn plinth]

Hey all. Just a quick q as I'm trying out ROC mining. I'm scanning for mineral deposits on moons (tried a few moons) and over like an hour I keep only finding very small ones (mass around 1) that are hand minable and the large ones that need the Prospector, but I just can't seem to find the medium sized ones for the ROC.

I'm making sure to only check the ones that show up on scans within 3km. What am I doing wrong? Or am I just really unlucky somehow?

[vestal ravine]

As you're flying to the icons look for those that change to the diamond shapes. Can be any number of clusters. I like Daymar for Roc gems...

[dawn plinth]

I think I do but it just happens to be that every gem icon turns out to be a handmining deposit

That has a mass of like less than 1

[vestal ravine]

Are these shown as Hadanite?

[dawn plinth]

Yeah they do show up as Hadanite

[vestal ravine]

The Roc can only break those you just to keep after them you might need 50 to fill the cargo bin.

[rugged axle]

theres a difference in hand minables and roc minables.

roc minables will only show up on scans within 3km. hand minables will only shjow within 500meters.

your investigating the wrong signatures.

[dawn plinth]

That's so odd. What's the mass of the ROC minables usually? I swear these signatures show up 2.5km away and then have a mass of like 0.8

[rugged axle]

no idea, i dont roc mine lol. ive done it like twice and never paid attention to the mass

[dawn plinth]

Haha okey dokes I'll just mine the 0.8s and see what I get

[native plank]

Is mining with a Prospector still a good way to make cash?

[dawn plinth]

Thank you both for your help, you were right the 0.8s are for ROC I Just confused myself, thank you!

[vestal ravine]

Kets: I thought the hand minable gems were only in the caves lol. Or prison. So not sure what you are talking about. Sorry.

Consolidated: for solo Quant mining the Prospector is Meta good.

[north oyster]

Probably one of the best in game. It prints aUEC

[native plank]

Interesting

[north oyster]

Aberdeen is the best for hadanite but you will need a Pembroke Armor suit

[native plank]

Considering getting a Prospector and trying out mining again

But I hear findign good quant rocks is really hard

[north oyster]

Free Fly for next 12 Days

[rugged axle]

only hard if you dont know what your doing

[north oyster]

Not hard, but skill is needed

[native plank]

Can you equip the good mining lazer I hear about?

[native plank]

There is skill to it? Can it be done solo and effectively?

[north oyster]

Yes on the free fly ships

[north oyster]

Prospector is solo. It’ll just take time learning

[rugged axle]

skill is knowing where to go. knowing how to adjust ping angle, and knowing how to scan

[north oyster]

There are some pinned articles at the top

[native plank]

I'll try find them

[vestal ravine]

It took me about 25 trips mining all types before I got used to the gear and being able to crack Q. So in my case practice makes perfect. Had some horrible explosions. lol

[north oyster]

The are some other resources and info I’ll post tin a few. Not where I can do it at moment

[restive creek]

comma and period to change ping angle
start at 360
look at a ping
drop angle to 02 degrees
look at box and ping again
if 2 or more blips appear its quant
rinse repeat
not alot of skill needed other than flying and not making the quant unstable when landing at station

[vestal ravine]

Is the GeForce overlay any kind of a benefit? Like the frame rates might predict a crash then I could prepare for it ROC mining.

[vestal ravine]

I've been having an issue my per cent figures on that left side mouse scroll are not showing up or just one angle but not the others. Is this some sort of glitch? I thought there was no specific key bind to activate this. Need those to show properly lol.

[rugged axle]

what do you mean? it cycles through them while you adjust. and disappears once you have it set for a couple seconds

[vestal ravine]

It does not cycle so I started doing other fun things in the game. All of a sudden. EDIT: I finally got my second PC build done so I can cross test gear and so forth. On my 1st game account I have the red error box on the friends list and even after deleting the User Folder and all the game resets on next log in the Character Reset page comes back. Very frustrating. I might abandon that character.

[rugged axle]

your sure your using the right keybinds?

[native plank]

Is the best place to Mine Lyria?

[rugged axle]

lyria, wala, and the belt

[native plank]

Set up shop at Bajini but just realised they don't sell armour or guns...

[vestal ravine]

I have to go back and review how it works. I had it going for like two months then they stopped showing up.

[rugged axle]

be in ship, press , or .

[north oyster]

You'll want to be at ARC-L1

[rugged axle]

for default keybind at least

[native plank]

oh

Do you know if they sell armour/guns at Arc-L1?

[vestal ravine]

Okay cool!! Thanks will try...

[north oyster]

It is a refinery spot, so that's where you will be working out of if you mind on Lyria and Wala

Since I'm mine in Aaron's Halo most of the time I work out of CRU-L1

[native plank]

Is the Halo better than Lyria?

[rugged axle]

i prefer halo for prosp mining, lyria for mole mining

[native plank]

I might try it then

Best location to setup shop is Cru-L1?

[rugged axle]

i still go arc l1

and keep prosp and mole there with a c2 for transporting

[north oyster]

It's a matter of personal preference. The Prospector can mine larger rocks in space than it can on surface (for some odd reason). Also, in the Halo, the Lancet is really the only thing you need while on the surface you will encounter larger rocks that require add-ons

CRU-L1 and aim for ARC-L3 ... Go about 11.5M Km and drop out of QT

[native plank]

The more straight forward the better I suppose, the Halo it is then.

[north oyster]

You will need to learn about active angle pinging

with it you can ID asteroids about 12Km away

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz8TOCUa0Ms

If you've never mined in the Prospector, I would encourage you to learn the mechanics with non-volatile ore

When refining, you will want to use the Dinyx or Ferron methods. You will also need a ship for cargo hauling (easy peasy with free fly)

[native plank]

Just to confirm, during free fly can I attach lancet head to freefly Prospector?

[north oyster]

Yes, it is not like a rental

[native plank]

Perfect

[north oyster]

Also, in the Halo, there will be a lot of duds, so that is why learning to ID clusters from afar will save you a ton of time

One other expense for the Prospector would be an upgraded QT engine when funds are ok. I would suggest the Atlas because it is the best balance of speed and distance

Only one spot where Atlas is located, HUR-L5? I can't recall

When you swap the QT engine, you will need to power it on manually on the MFD or power cycle your ship. Odd bug that it isn't powered after swapping

[native plank]

Weird, appreciate the heads up.

[floral willow]

Is there a reason to use the ROC-DS as a solo player? The extra storage capacity seems nice, but you'd have to get into the mining seat instead of being able to do everything from one location

[mighty prawn]

I personally would consider ROC-DS if I am able to mine faster, compared to just ROC. I do not mind having to switch between seats, but I think that's annoying. So, it needs to mine fast enough to justify the annoynce.

[north oyster]

ROC-DS was just created as a LTI Token, it's value isn't much beyond that. For size, features, etc, the only value is increased capacity of storage that you lose quickly with any game burp.

[floral willow]

I guess a better question is; do you often run out of space with the capacity on the ROC? And if you do, does it take more or less time to take the cargo from the ROC and deposit it in your mining ship?

[north oyster]

No, as a rule, when you are over 50% capacity on the regular ROC, you should be looking to head to the outpost to sell. At this time there is zero crash protection for the ROC and what you've gathered. You can transfer it to the ship inventory, so if you are doing that, the increased capacity of the ROC-DS doesn't make any sense

Most who do ROC mining have setup a macro to do a move inventory from vehicle to ship storage

The regular ROC is easier to transport and two ROCs get more done than a two man team in a DS.

[rugged axle]

Same for anything in the game currently. Anything meant for multi crew, is outclassed by the same number of solos.

Even the mole, 3 prospectors have the same mining potential, easier to escape if something happens, and much quicker to scout(as all 3 can go a separate way, then qt to whoever finds the rock)

[north oyster]

I wonder how they are going to position the new mining "Large" ship that will be the interim between the MOLE and the Orion

Pretty sure new class of spawn ore

[floral willow]

Excellent info, folks. Thank you kindly!

I don't have a lot of ships that can fit the ROC; it's either the MSR or the Corsair, I believe, as the Cutlass Blue would be a tight fit if it's even possible

[topaz coyote]

Nomad, 600, C2 and I think people have fit it in the Cutty Black (don't quote me tho)

[pliant matrix]

ROC works perfectly in cutlass black yeah

Also FL max

Connies and now corsair

[floral willow]

I hope the Freelancer gets a rework; it's so weirdly laid out

[topaz coyote]

dont bet on it any time soon.. 😉

[pliant matrix]

I got a FL max a month ago and can't stand the cockpit. It's old and visibility is really bad

[north oyster]

That's what most complain about but it doesn't bother me at all

[pliant matrix]

tbh it's a bit annoying when scanning rocks for ROC xD

[north oyster]

The MAX for the price (in game) can't be beat with SCU to aUEC price

I use it exclusively for ROC mining (and hauling Quantainium) so I'm use to that

[pliant matrix]

same here and well I trade large cargo space for better ground view of cutlass for example

[north oyster]

Wow, the game package pricing for the Drake Cutter! $45!!

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Packages/Cutter-IAE-Starter-Pack-Warbond

Guys Guys! Check out CIG's newest video, it is awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az5Z8ZT1xNM

[jovial matrix]

That’s on sale though

It’s still 60$ normally

But for now that’s a really good deal

[cedar flower]

the cutter apears to me like a worse Hull A

[ivory gust]

ROC-DS does also have a noticeably stronger laser and longer range. If you're mining a cluster of 3 or more it'll probably be faster than normal roc even with seat switching.

[ivory gust]

Prospector isn't in the free fly though? Aurora is the only free fly ship, the rest are just normal rentals from IAE

[north oyster]

The Prospector will come with MISC Day. All ships show when their manufacturer does, except on the last couple of days when ALL ships become rentable once more

[sonic laurel]

love it

[north oyster]

Best vid so far, little disappointed in the Corsair video

I guess they wanted to focus on the "exploration" part of the ship

[ivory gust]

Right, and those are normal rentals I thought, not the free fly loaners that you can change the loadout on?

[north oyster]

The Free Fly ship can go through full mods and changes

The 48hr rental is the free fly loaners

But maybe things have changed, I'll test it when I get home

[ivory gust]

For ILW the 48 hour rentals were normal rentals I thought. This is my first IAE though so maybe it's different?

I'd love it if they were the special loaners so you could change equipment, I want to try the Corsair with S5s

[north oyster]

It'll be a couple of hours before I can know for sure.

it'll be disappointing if you can't change the loaner. I might be confusing the ships that are offered with the Free Fly by default with what can be rented

Like you mentioned

[rose root]

Hey guys can you fit a Roc in the back of a corsair?

[mighty prawn]

yes

[pliant matrix]

you can fit 3 easy

[chrome monolith]

Whats a good mining ship to start out with?

[prime pine]

The ROC for ground mining, Prospector for solo planet mining

[chrome monolith]

Which should I go for first?

[prime pine]

How much money ya' got? are we talking aUEC or real cash?

[chrome monolith]

Not much for both of them.

[prime pine]

lol

fair enough

[chrome monolith]

Where can I get them at least?

[prime pine]

New Deal on Lorville

[chrome monolith]

So is that the best place for them?

[prime pine]

2 mil for the Prospector, 172k for ROC

[chrome monolith]

Only issue is I don't have a ship to carry a ROC.

[prime pine]

That's the only place you can get them.

[sonic laurel]

Nomad + roc is 1.1mil

Or rent a cutty for dirt cheap

[ivory gust]

You can rent a ROC and a Cutlass to carry it for 40k aUEC combined at any refinery

Can also just go to New Babbage and rent a Corsair or Cutlass for free since it's IAE

[chrome monolith]

Ah alright, thanks.

[prime pine]

@chrome monolith You're welcome

[willow abyss]

anyone know how to get to jumptown in yela?

[ivory gust]

Have confirmed, they're normal rentals and you can't change the loadout without glitching the loadout manager

[jovial matrix]

look for missions the personal tab of your contracts manager. If you're nearby or on yela, theres a chance youll get a mission that wants you to go to JT and pick up a package, and itll give you a marker for the lab

[willow abyss]

thanks

[worn dock]

Cutter only has 4 SCU

[native plank]

This regarding IAE vehicles?

[ivory gust]

Yes

[native plank]

R.I.P guess there's no point waiting for Misc Prospector then, better off buying it

[cedar flower]

yeah, its about as big as a Hull A, with the same living spaces, slightly better agility but equal firepower
it has less fuel and 60 SCU less capacity

[orchid lark]

Hello,

Trying to get into some low risk trading with 150k and a Corsair? Any pointers or guides I can look at?

[north oyster]

Thanks for the check, that's frustrating. I have no idea what ships they are offering as the free fly set this year. It might be just one ship on the premise you can rent all the others

[ivory gust]

Free Fly page does just list the Aurora

[worthy scroll]

Yep, it's just an Aurora as the freebie ship this time around.

[ivory gust]

Honestly surprised it wasn't the Cutter.

[north oyster]

I'm guessing it was a timing issue between the FF ship being announced and the new ship being announced is why the Cutter isn't the FF ship

[pliant matrix]

is it confirmed 400i can't take a roc?

[worthy scroll]

The 400i only has a tiny "hangar" designed for the... X1's? I believe. Bikes basically. Far too small for anything else.

[pliant matrix]

the x1 part is on the front. there is also a (small) elevator on the back

[worthy scroll]

Yeah I'm looking more into it. Looks like it can fit a Cyclone and Dragonfly back there, but no go on ROC or Ursa.

[pliant matrix]

https://external-preview.redd.it/WXQ5FmMcNIAh40mrt6yQnAHRBKdZvfZgdrPLxf4FeAU.jpg?auto=webp&s=cfc5d42d2f2e6c3127ffd5e8ba3282a0fa61a5b3

found that pics but it seems a bit glitchy

all that empty space on the side tho...

[worthy scroll]

Yeah, apparently it's just too tall.

[pliant matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXM422w_l9U&ab_channel=Kuehlwagen

[worthy scroll]

Let some air out of the tires. 😆

[pliant matrix]

lmao yeah

watching some stats it seems 400i fly pretty similarly to a corsair xD

but only 2xS4... disappointing

[ivory gust]

Too tall, need to shoot off the ROC's light bar for it to sort of work

That makes the 400i the second most expensive (in game) ship that can't carry a ROC

[pliant matrix]

which one is first?

[ivory gust]

Redeemer

[north oyster]

CCU tip of the Day. The 600i Explorer WarBond is $30 off. If you get the Prowler to 600i CCU WB, it is 5 dollars

[lyric mason]

So im thinking of upgrading my cutlass black into a connie Andromeda for cargo moving and taking about my ROC , is this a good idea? I love connies and will be finally able to fully own one

[north oyster]

Why Andromeda? The extra ship on it?

[lyric mason]

Also cheaper, and the extra ship in it means I can do fun things with friends

[north oyster]

I got the Taurus instead

[pliant matrix]

Taurus is cheaper. it only lacks s1 missiles and extra paper ship

[north oyster]

Larger cargo and cheaper also

[pliant matrix]

ever tried parking the merlin into the taurus? xD

[lyric mason]

Okay, I should look up the tour, other reason I want an Andromeda is because I can take a friend to do bounty hunting with it, so it seems more like a jack of all trades

[pliant matrix]

put your friend into a turret. it'll be more effective imo

[lyric mason]

I have alot of friends getting back into the game

[north oyster]

The Taurus is $50 cheaper. But you might want to wait until RSI day at IAE, see which ship is offered the WB discount sale

[lyric mason]

I wont be able to buy until 1st of the month which is my payday, but will give me a chance to try both of the two

[north oyster]

if they offer the ship you want in a discounted warbond CCU, then grab the CCU from the ship closes to it. So you could lock in that price for cheap, like $5

Just an idea

[misty coyote]

Yes

I'm looking at upgrading to either a Freelancer Max or push a bit more to the Taurus.

[lyric mason]

Does that work for upgrading ships as well?

[misty coyote]

Love the interior of the Taurus, but hate the way it lands. The MAX has much better landings, but the interior isn't as good.

[ivory gust]

It only works for upgrading ships

[pliant matrix]

I like how connies can land almost anywhere even if it's not really flat. Max back door almost never touch the ground unless it's mostly flat

[misty coyote]

This is a really good point... I'd forgotten about that.

Well, that's my bank account taking another hit...

[ivory gust]

Constellation is also a lot easier to load/unload vehicles since there's no ramp and you don't need to reverse

For ROC mining it's also beneficial to be able to park nose towards the gems rather than have to fly past and park rear towards

[misty coyote]

And you can get an Ursa, a ROC in back, as well as a bit of cargo

[north oyster]

I had CCU'd from my MAX to the Taurus but I also repurchased the MAX in-game. I still prefer her over the connie for ROC duty

[misty coyote]

What do you use the Taurus for?

And why is she better than the Taurus?

[north oyster]

I use the taurus as one of Quan haulers. The MAX is much more suited (to me) for ROC mining

The RORO (roll-on, roll-off) of the ramp for the MAX is awesome. The MAX has best in industry Hydrogen scoops, never need for fuel. Small footprint that allows me to land most anywhere, etc

[ivory gust]

Still not top tier for ROC mining since it doesn't have the medical regen like Carrack

[north oyster]

I just don't want to tend to that much mass of a ship anytime. But one day I might use the 600i Explorer with it's new medbay as a ROC escort

[misty coyote]

The MAX can quant haul too though right?

[modern agate]

yes

[north oyster]

Yes, it is the best price to SCU in that range. With 120 SCU, she's a great hauler. But I normally keep my ROC and MAX at HUR-L1 or L2 and I keep the Taurus at CRU-L1 for mining in the Halo

I use my daily to run between stations depending on what activity I want to do that day

[misty coyote]

Ic Ic....

[ripe bloom]

What is best ship for cargo and mineing

[north oyster]

I need to move away from the computer, I about pulled a trigger on the Kraken. This is like going to a drinking binge ..

[north oyster]

Cargo is stand alone and so is mining. Any ship from the Cutlass on up will work as a cargo for mining but with different results. I would say the MAX is the best cost per SCU for cargo that includes using it with Mining

The C2 is the best cargo ship at this time

[ripe bloom]

The max?

[north oyster]

Freelancer MAX

[ripe bloom]

Where is c2?

[north oyster]

Crusader show room

[ripe bloom]

What planet?

[north oyster]

roughly about 6M aUEC, Crusader planet, Orison floating city

[ripe bloom]

Alr

[north oyster]

I love the C2, she's a wonderful ship

Big girl

[ripe bloom]

Alr

For how many people to pilot tho

[north oyster]

solo type ship, crew of two max

[ripe bloom]

Is there a good duo type ship?

[north oyster]

The Hurricane is the best dual ship with a focus on ship to ship battles

[ripe bloom]

Alr

[north oyster]

As it relates to cargo, no need to multicrew

For Mining, the MOLE is a great multicrew ship but rough solo ship

Solo mining, the Prospector is the best ship

Solo surface mining, the ROC (with a transport ship) is best for fun times on the surface (imo)

[ripe bloom]

alr what's roughy the cost of all of them

[north oyster]

aUEC? Or real world funds?

[ripe bloom]

auec

[north oyster]

https://www.erkul.games/calculator will let you look each one up and where it is located

[ripe bloom]

Alr

But would 32m be able to get most or all of them

[north oyster]

Oh, easily

[ripe bloom]

Oh alr

If you know what is the best armor

[north oyster]

I would recommend a good run-about like the Cutter, Pisces, etc
Armor is not implement in game at the moment but the Hercules M2 would be a beast in that arena

[ripe bloom]

Armor is what?

[north oyster]

oh, personal armor not ship armor

[ripe bloom]

Yeah mb

[north oyster]

that's a matter of taste

[ripe bloom]

No buff?

[north oyster]

I prefer light and medium at most

[ripe bloom]

Alr

[ivory gust]

Heavy for chest and head can be useful

[north oyster]

I don't do gun battles much at all, so I'm not the best to ask, LOL

I'm happy with the Lynx armor, looks great

Cornerstone has a great resource for locating most anything in the game
https://finder.cstone.space/

[summer musk]

hey my quantanium keeps turning into inert material could someone help me

[ivory gust]

Stop landing in a hangar when you get back to the station. Just get impounded by not calling ATC, floating up to a closed hangar door, and waiting. If you don't see the impound timer within ~30seconds, try a different hangar.

You could easily have searched "inert" and found your answer

[summer musk]

ok il try that

thank you

[granite scarab]

Not specifically cargo and mining, but related to their ships:
Do i melt my expanse so i can upgrade my max to a caterpillar?

Im torn on whether or not to

[worthy scroll]

I think the Caterpillar is going to be a far more important ship down the road. The Expanse is a one trick pony, and it'll rely on other ships in order to do it's one job. The Cat is something that's going to have options and be versatile.

[granite scarab]

Thats essentially my train of thought.
Cat can always be useful, neat gameplay loops for expanse though. Plus, the cat is useful now whereas who knows when the expanse will be flyable

[ripe bloom]

How much do you make on avg for mining with mole 2 people

[north oyster]

Done right by an experienced team, you can pull about 800K aUEC

A Prospector is about 275K for a unicorn

[worn dock]

I thought they'd fixed that bug. I guess not!

[ivory gust]

They don't fix bugs in this game

[cerulean lichen]

So Corsair works for roc mining transport. A little big and comber some but does work

[pliant sparrow]

I love how every time a ship that has cargo space comes out the community tests it to see if they can Roc mine with it

They could drop the Idris and y'all would try and use it for Roc mining

[pliant matrix]

roc mining in C2 is amazing

[pliant sparrow]

yeah especially if you have multiple Rocs

good fun

[ripe bloom]

For how long?

[cerulean lichen]

I also tried titanium trading in it. It can net about 12k a run so while possible to trade with, probably not ideal

Hopefully when cargo missions are a thing, a heavily armed transport will be very useful for cargo trading.

[little stratus]

is making 5k aUEC per trade run normal?

[worthy scroll]

If you're using a very small ship, sure.

[floral pond]

Dont you love it when you spend 95% of your money on cargo and the server crashes and you lose everything 😐

[prime pine]

I do not.

[primal terrace]

What should I have my prospector loadout as

[misty coyote]

Lancet mining head and an upgraded QT

[little stratus]

why i only spend 30% per run

and 30% is like 20k UEC so ... > >

[floral pond]

I only had like 30k 😂

[thin escarp]

@floral pond is your ign the same?

on sc

[ripe bloom]

How do I turn on lasers for the mole

[jovial matrix]

get in one of the turrets, turn the turret on, and then press left click

[ivory gust]

Power button is next to upper right mfd, hold F and look around it

[knotty bloom]

In case you were hoping to manage all three lasers at once, this isn't a Wendy's sir.

[wheat birch]

How does one find a ROC to put in your cutlass? Spawned by planetside vehicle terminals, yeah?

[prime pine]

Yeah, easiest to go to a mining facility or similar.

[errant wraith]

any of those stations will have the blue vehicle pads

[prime pine]

That's handy. What site is that from?

[errant wraith]

starcitizen.tools

https://starcitizen.tools/Platinum_Bay

[hasty path]

On a scale of pointless to insane, is it smart to use a rented prospector for Quant mining? I've found I struggle to get even 25% power at the best of times on +20% Quant rocks. i.e. is this expected?
I've read a few people on reddit say it doesn't seem to be a good idea for a rented prospector to do quant mining, for lack of power, laser power stability, etc.

I resorted to mining larenite instead.

[topaz burrow]

rented prosp is useless imo. The price difference between Quant and Laranite makes it pretty bad deal and not worth the effort. You'd be better using ROC and mining hadanite.

[misty coyote]

The Freelancer MAX has less HP than the Vanillancer???

[modern agate]

all that extra space had to come from somewhere

[ripe bloom]

What % quatomum do I want

[snow flare]

i have not played SC for prob 8 months..how is trading these days? i was thinking of getting my CAT back...

[worthy scroll]

Hasn't really changed in that time.

[modern agate]

Not much changed, but with 3.18 coming I wouldn't bother grinding cargo unless you want to roleplay a space trucker

[worthy scroll]

It's what I mostly do just because it's chill, I don't really care about the money. Also in a Caterpillar, but she's getting upgraded soon.

[vapid widget]

Server hopping praying for enough laranite to fill up the c2

69,600 laranite

💀

[worthy scroll]

Server hopping doesn't help, stock is shared across servers. That's why it's so hard to get it these days.

[north oyster]

Rental Prospector is not useless and you can learn the game loop and make decent coin while doing it. BUT you will not be able to mine quantainium. That limitation is only relevant in making big coin because you can average about 250K to 275K aUEC per trip when mining Quantainium. However, you can earn 60K to 100K aUEC per trip mining regular ore.

[north oyster]

When scanning an ore deposit, you want the % of Quantainium to be above 20% ... preferred are rocks north of 30% and into the 40% range

[north oyster]

Trade still needs some love and it will have a 100% make over in the next year with Persistent Entity Streaming and the cargo refactor. Once out of Tier Zero, you should have some good options for the big haulers like the CAT and C2. For now, Trade is solid with specific items like scrap, titainium, diamonds. astertine, etc

Also, @hasty path , since it will be a FREE RENTAL all the more to get out there and learn the ropes with this fantastic ship. I call the Prospector the Goose that lays the Golden Eggs because it can make you hundreds of millions of aUEC in the mining game loop.

[ripe bloom]

ALR

[north oyster]

I'd not use her for much bounty work, she's a little slow turning that big rear end. But to me, she's one of the better ships in the game because of the good cargo, ROC hauling, size, fuel economy, etc

[north oyster]

Are you mining on surface or the Halo?

[hasty path]

Thank you for the detailed answer and suggestions - I'm hesitant to ask "what is best to mine", etc which is why I started with something like Larenite. Do you have an alternative(s) I can look at?

I figured Prospector & Quant mining was out, was just curious if I was missing something.

[misty coyote]

Only game in town is Quantanium right now

Sad but it's the way it is

[hasty path]

If one has a rental prospector?

[misty coyote]

Ah, that changes things

Quant is for none rentals

For rentals, you want to look for Bexalite, Taranite, Borase, Laranite and Agrium depreciating in value as stated

Anything else is practice fodder and not worth refining

[hasty path]

Noted, thank you very much for recommendations/

[misty coyote]

I really want the other minerals to have a purpose, like in Eve where everything has a value somewhere.

But alas

[zenith maple]

They have talked about crafting in the future right? I could see all materials get used along with salvaging to repair, build, upgrade stuff

[hasty path]

Hopefully in due time- I expect it to play a more important part when 'economy' takes shape, but additionally stations like Crusader building ships would require such minerals creating a demand (via various events, like raids on systems, etc).

A hypothetical, but possibility(?)...

[misty coyote]

They don't want crafting in the MMO sense.....

You can't create a Behring repeater in your workshop

But they have mentioned making the components that might be used....Or taking the materials to the manufactorer.....

ASAIK

[hasty path]

I'd imagine this to happen at e.g. Hurston (some outpost) where these could be transported to shops/offworld? Not sure if CIG has plans to go this far down the rabbit hole.

Cool idea though.

[misty coyote]

When Habs become a thing.....They might have a manufactorer stamp.....Or could be prefab shells you have to throw the materials at....

Not sure

[zenith maple]

there is the potential for a lot of ways to use all the resources we can gather

its more down to how complex or not they will be making things

[north oyster]

A lot of miners will say "only quantainium" but taking some time to learn the loop and learn to make good coin with a rental is not a waste of your time. Here is a value's chart for ore. Agricium should be your minimum but you can always back fill with anything above Gold. Some of the ores break like trash, especially Hepha and Borase. I only go after borase if it is in high percentage. You can earn up to 100K with a good run but will probably average about 60K to 70K aUEC. Use Dynix or Ferron for refining.

Bexalite is a good ore and tends to break well, but finding it in high concentration is often a challenge. Laranite usually breaks like a dream and makes for good mining.

SC Trade Tools will list the places with highest concentrations of each ore, so it is good to learn to use that website also. https://sc-trade.tools/home

Also, Ryan from SuperMacBrothers did a good "Zero to Hero" on how to make money with a Rental

[misty coyote]

I totally concur.....It's much calmer to be mining none quantanium in a rental, and will be how I start next wipe

[north oyster]

It is good to note that you can crack larger rocks in space than you can on the surface

[hasty path]

Been using that an https://uexcorp.space/ for trading - both are good sites, just never went to 'mining' sections. Some great info though.

[north oyster]

uexcorp is another excellent resource, also CornerStone's data is fantastic

I keep this on speed dial
https://finder.cstone.space/

I'm sure they will update it after the holidays

[zenith maple]

I didnt enjoy the prospector mining, but have had a bit of fun with ROC

so worth testing both

for those that are interested in mining

[misty coyote]

I've spoken to many that prefer one or the other.

I prefer Prosp Mining in Space

[north oyster]

ROC mining is my favorite but Prospector mining pays the bills for the dreams

[zenith maple]

Just, look out for those trees that jump out and take down your ship, they be sneaky

[north oyster]

I'm like Mattius, I prefer hanging out in the Halo

no trees

[misty coyote]

Just feels......like space mining.....

[north oyster]

no pirates

[misty coyote]

It's how it should be done...

[north oyster]

and wonderful solitude

[misty coyote]

this this this

You....a rock or 2 and the big black

[north oyster]

living the dream

[misty coyote]

The ocean of expanse

[zenith maple]

I like zipping along the surface of a planet/moon, and then picking up some gems when I come over them. Its not efficient for the dollars, but its therapeutic for me, so any money is good money.

[ripe bloom]

Is cargo fr good for money

[cerulean lichen]

Only in bulk trading in a c2 and only for specific goods. Hopefully when cargo missions are added there will be a more profitable path

[north oyster]

ROC mining has been my favorite since they came out with it. You're right, landing on the surface and working the land mining gems is a blast. Even with the risk of loosing gems from crashes, it is still something I enjoy doing.

[zenith maple]

yeah, it fits me very nicely

along with some package missions

[north oyster]

Trade needs some love and isn't in a great place at the moment. It ONLY favors the largest of ships like Winterhuntsman said. You can make good coin and the risk is relatively minimum, but again, there are some aspects to learn about the game loop to make it profitable. For this I would reommend Jack Axton's video on Trade refresher course

[zenith maple]

I'm hoping for trade missions, much like package and bounty hunter, give us quest chains, work up to unlock better deals and cargo of more value, and that cargo could be of a limited quantity.

oh, and the quest chains need to be paid to haul, so we dont risk our own money to begin with

[jovial matrix]

It’s the same for the taurus lol, less hull HP than the andromeda despite being longer

[jovial matrix]

No, you’re getting rid of the cat????

This is heresy

[sonic laurel]

I might be wrong but don't 30k's also allow you to retrieve ROC state as well if you wait a while?

[ripe bloom]

Ty

Btw is the c2 worth to buy

[jovial matrix]

For cargo hauling? Yes

[ripe bloom]

Alr

[north oyster]

no, you loose everything unless you move it to the ship's cargo. And if the crash is while you are out of the ship, that might be lost also

[north oyster]

C2 is a really fun ship, I love flying her and making runs in the trade route are excellent. I've out maneuvered Ares ships trying to hit me leaving an outpost. Climbing into atmosphere while doing a barrel roll, they never landed a shot

The C2 is the meta cargo carrier atm

[cerulean lichen]

C2 is amazing fun. Though I enjoy the grind to get it in game as it feels like a end game ship for trading currently.

[misty coyote]

I feel the same about the Caterpillar ...

[cerulean lichen]

I love the idea of basic fleets that give you a taste of everything and then grinding for end game. And it works great progression wise for trading as each better ship has more cargo space which just means more money to make

[zenith maple]

I aim to have small to medium things in each loop covered, then join crews for the medium to big, and also grind out my own if I want to own anything big and special.

[sonic laurel]

my current goal fleet is a tana and a cutter. Just waiting for MISC day. I want to earn big ships in game too

[zenith maple]

I didnt plan on buying the cutter, but it was fun to fly and a good price

[little stratus]

i'm using SC trade tools and its always giving me Jumptown, The Orphanage and PRIVATE PROPERTY, are there nowhere else to trade?

[jovial matrix]

Those are places to trade vice and illegal goods, so maybe you have a filter on for that kind of thing?

[little stratus]

how do i tell?

[jovial matrix]

No idea

[ivory gust]

Use filters to disable vice type goods

[little stratus]

ah

wow the margins are tiny :/

[jovial matrix]

Yeah

[hexed veldt]

cutter is love. cutter is life

[jovial matrix]

Nah

[hexed veldt]

yah.

[zenith maple]

I was actually planning on buying the corsair, for a secondary ROC transport and multicrew. But didnt like how it flew, then figured I give the cutter a try, since it was there on the floor anyway. And I was dodging trees and having fun around the maglev tubes for a good 5-10 min.

[hexed veldt]

yessss

cutter is legit the most fun ship in the game for me

[zenith maple]

yeah, I figured I could always upgrade from it if I ever got bored or wanted the money and LTI for something else

[jagged valve]

Question: If I am transporting cargo and servers 30K, is the cargo gone or should it still be there when I log back in? if its gone, PES would technically eliminate that problem?

[sonic laurel]

wait 15 minutes before logging back in and you can retrrieve your ship from the terminal with cargo still there

[north oyster]

The Corsair handling will be tuned up. Might want to pick up a cheap CCU to hold so you can take advantage of the discounted price if you do decide to get it

[zenith maple]

[north oyster]

Just be sure to not "claim" the ship

[zenith maple]

yeah

I have a C1 chilling because of that

[north oyster]

Yeah, I grabbed a $5 CCU to lock in a few ships

[jagged valve]

where do you recall it when that happens?

[north oyster]

If you Retrieve it, all is good. If you Claim the ship, you've lost everything in her

You can claim it at the last ASOP normally

where you first retrieved her

[ripe bloom]

Best trade routes?

[wild canyon]

https://uexcorp.space/

[north oyster]

Use those websites for estimates only. If you want a full rundown, this video from Jack Axton contains the info. It is from an older build but it is still valid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NxTYWawbvM

I forgot to mention, at that time Scrap was totally hosed in the game. Obviously, it is not now

[ripe bloom]

alr also ty

[jagged valve]

whats a $5 ccu?

[north oyster]

With the introduction of the new ship, there is a special "War Bond" (aka "new cash") price that is often at a pretty good discount, $30 dollars saving, etc. If you buy an upgrade from a ship that is just under it, sometimes $5, $10 or what ever, then you have that a Cross Chassis Upgrade to that ship. Even if you don't own the donor ship.

You can get a Terrapin to Corsair CCU for $5

[sonic laurel]

why not spend 5$ more and just have the ship?

[north oyster]

you are not buying it at the moment, plus in the CCU Game (very advanced game, warning take it slow), you can build a chain of CCU's to a ship with substantial savings

I would recommend checking out Noobifier or some others for explanation of the process

I have CCU chains to the BMM, Orion and the Liberator

[sonic laurel]

biggest ship I might ever buy is andromeda sized or smaller tbh. And probably never bigger than a cutty black

[north oyster]

CCU game isn't for everyone, nor should it be. But knowing the CCU method can help you park ships that you may wish to obtain.

[sonic laurel]

so what's an example CCU path to a cutty black that's decent?

I never did quite understand all this

[north oyster]

That's an entry level ship. but lets say you have an LTI token you bought (maybe the Cutter). You bought the Cutter game package for $45. It has LTI, now that a $20 savings. Now you melt your current ship (with game package) and then use the funds to buy CCU to the Cutlass Black. Now you Cutty will have LTI and you're golden

Cutter CCU to Cutlass Black

[sonic laurel]

I did this. I melted my Nomad game package and paint for 94$ in store credit. bought the cutter lti game package. And will be using credit to CCU to the Tana on MISC day and use leftovers for another standalone cutter.

but LTI Tana

[north oyster]

Welcome to the CCU game

[sonic laurel]

I was afraid I was going to screw myself and lose a bunch of money the entire time lol

[north oyster]

it can be nerve racking and I have made mistakes but it is worth the effort.

[proud heron]

roc mining laser doesnt work

[north oyster]

Power cycle

it's been buggy, so you have to keep working with it. It also happens sometimes when you go to collect

[rugged axle]

If the ship was "saved" by 30k protection, you can retrieve at ANY asop. The couple times I've 30k'd transporting quant, I've flown gladius to a18, retrieved my 30k'd c2 there and sold lol. Eliminated the "middle ground" of flying the c2 entirely

[north oyster]

When it failed on collecting, I would power down, step out, inspect a gem, then get back in and try again

[north oyster]

I thought so, but didn't want to say that when I wasn't 100% sure

Thanks

[rugged axle]

Makes a nice "bonus" for dealing with 30k in the first place

[north oyster]

concur

[proud heron]

also any method to stop the gems from flying everywhere in like a 100m radius

[rugged axle]

Gather slowly....

[jovial matrix]

They typically do that if you break the rock while it’s in overcharge

[rugged axle]

Oh...yea if it's slinging them while you break, you touched red zone.

If its doing it while your scooping the gems after breaking, need to slow down gathering. It's a known bug that if you "pick up" too many at once, it'll sling them all over instead of picking up

[jovial matrix]

Yeah

[ivory gust]

I don't think it's "pick up too many at once", I think if you're moving the head too much while it's picking them up, the gems just "miss" the collection point and fly behind you instead

[jovial matrix]

That too

Although sometimes, if I break a rock and then try and collect the big pile of gems, the server lags and when it updates all of the gems come flying into the arm at once, and a bunch don’t make it in

[north oyster]

watch closely as you fill up the Green and do not go into the Red overcharge. After the break, point your collector to the side and go slowly only pulling a few gems at a time

[ivory gust]

Or just get a ROC DS and extract faster

[north oyster]

some times when on a ledge, they will run and run when tumbling down

[jovial matrix]

Hate it when a good patch of rocks is on a hill or right next to a drop-off, it’s so annoying to collect

[ivory gust]

I'll sometimes pass over otherwise good clusters if they're on a bad slope

[jovial matrix]

Fair

[north oyster]

I scan the slope and determine if they'll pool for the most part in a short distance. Most of the time that works ok with only a stone or two growing legs

Never break more than two or three rocks before collecting them

[rugged axle]

More fun when you find that unicorn 45% 8k mass quant that's on the side of a mountain 😦

[small berry]

what is the best illegal cargo route right now?

scratch that, whats the best trade route in general now

[rugged axle]

Get a prospector, mine quantanium, then deliver it as your trade route 🙂

[quiet tide]

anyone throwing away in game money

i got a trash can on my ship

[torpid cedar]

Can a cutter fit into an 890? 🤔😂

[ivory gust]

Yes

[lavish wharf]

Hi guys, quantainium had been fixed or not ? I'm back since a year of break. I'd like to mine, but IDK if it was patched ?

[torpid cedar]

Decided not to buy it though. It has no defense and it’s super slow. It can go far though. But that’s about it. It’s kinda a collectors ship. Now I’m trying to decide between a 600i or a Reclaimer.

[hollow sedge]

You're deciding between a lux ship and an industrial salvage ship

Tough choice there.

[ivory gust]

Those two ships have nothing in common and I don't see why you'd ever need to decide between them.

Do you want a luxury touring ship or a big salvage ship?

[cold jetty]

obviously they want both but dont have the budget for it

[torpid cedar]

Both. Just not sure which one to get next. But I decided on the 600i as it makes more sense right now. The reclaimer dies t have much use in the game right now and is like a brick. But I love it. A 600i will be way better for my game play. As it will actually be useful.

[ivory gust]

Uhhh... Reclaimer is getting its gameplay (salvage) in 3.18 in January. 600i is a long way off from having any actual gameplay

[hollow sedge]

What is the the 600i gameplay?

[ivory gust]

Exactly

[hollow sedge]

Reclaimer is a bitch to fly but I think with the salvage update they will fix that

[ivory gust]

It'll need a few people to effectively salvage with it though

[pliant matrix]

With salvage gameplay will there be specific salvage missions or will it be like mining with scouting and else?

[ivory gust]

Like mining. They're adding wreckage you can find by scanning

[pliant matrix]

Cool

I'm always interested in new gameplay

[cold jetty]

i think you can also salvage ships that players have destroyed iirc?

so follow around a bounty hunter and pick up their scraps

[pliant matrix]

Yeah. That could be a nice loop for group play

Pirate play too