industrial-professions

[hardy mesa]

I'm odd I like minning bexalite if I'm solo good price and no timer

[mighty prawn]

Do we need upgraded mining modules for non-Quantanium mining?

Or the same thing applies, it's far easier just to use upgraded mining lasers to cut through the rocks?

[hardy mesa]

makes it easier

[mighty prawn]

Ok, I am going to get ROC first and then eventually Prospector

I read that full load of Hadanite on ROC is worth about 200k, so I have to do that mining about 10 times

[pliant matrix]

I would advise not to wait to fill your ROC before selling. With 30k randomly happening it would be a waste to lose an almost full load

[cobalt blaze]

30k should return/remain all items after logging in a few mins later

[jovial matrix]

nope

the ROC doesnt have 30K protection

so anything inside of an ROC goes poof

[cobalt blaze]

ope my bad

[jovial matrix]

all good lol

[pliant matrix]

Yeah... I experienced it several times

Tho I'd a 30k while Roc was inside my ship and it was there after I retrieved it. But it was before I started mining so idk if gems would have remained or not

[cobalt blaze]

I feel like to have ROC you'll need a ship that can fit in it to transport which you obviously have to pay more for than having a prospector

[frigid yacht]

Is Aaron's halo smaller in 3.17.3?

I've decided to go out to the belt to mine. So i open up the trusty Refinery to Aaron Halo Mining Routes by CaptSheppar on Cornerstone. Pick my spot, quantum out +/-12,680,000, no asteroids. This supposed to be the densest part of band 1. Turn around. Jump 50k back to ARC L1. Nothing. Another 50k. nada. 100k. nope. 1 million. nope. Asteroids didn't show up until I was well within band 4. after about an hour I finally found a cluster worth mining. Dropped my load at refinery then headed on back. This time i wanted to try band 10. not there. band 9? nope. Finally around Band 7 asteroids appeared. so is it me or did cig reduce the si8ze of the halo/

[pliant matrix]

Cutlass carry it nicely enough and is not that expansive

Also roc mining offer instant income when prospector makes you wait for refine time and travel to sell before getting the money

[cobalt blaze]

isn't ROC+Cutty = Prospector?
still gonna need to transport processed quant but rent will handle delivery cheaply

[pliant matrix]

No roc is like 170k and cutlass barely over a mil

You can rent both cutlass and roc too btw

[cobalt blaze]

renting roc for mining is probably meh
renting is broken anything over a day
idk which one could possibly make more money but feel like prospector would be easier
not that I done any roc mining

also with 30k not protecting it uhh

yea

[pliant matrix]

If you rent cutty and roc and make a full load of hadanite you get around 160k benefit on your first run. 200k for the next ones

It's easy starting money

But yeah 30k is a threat

[cobalt blaze]

does turning off mole laser also turns off ship atm?

[ivory gust]

Yes

[ivory gust]

No, it's the same size, you were just using it wrong. Where were you setting destination to, Hurston?

The 12.68M is the distance remaining to the target

Also, band 1 is the narrowest and least dense, so it's super easy to miss. Most people aim for Band 5, which is very dense and large

[plush mica]

Where should I sell refined Quant, And does where I sell matter?

[ivory gust]

The Trade and Development console at any major city, and it doesn't matter, they all pay the same price

[cobalt blaze]

What exactly I can use a brandt module use for? what situation

I'm assuming rocks that are smaller than 5.5k

[ivory gust]

Brandt reduces the instability temporarily, so if you're having trouble with instability (power moves around too much) that can help. It's most useful to allow you to mine quant with something other than a Lancet if for some reason you want to do that.

[cobalt blaze]

Probably useful for smaller broken up rocks
is lancet still the best for mole?

[ivory gust]

Yes, Lancet MH2 though, which gives longer range

[cobalt blaze]

cheers

helix not any better then?

[ivory gust]

If you're mining quant, Lancet is by far the best due to the instability reduction.

If you're not mining quant, use whatever you want, it doesn't matter

[cobalt blaze]

fair

[cobalt blaze]

Alt + J not working for jettison?

[ivory gust]

I believe it only works if you've got quant that's about to explode

[cobalt blaze]

I had quant but not about to explode

[rugged axle]

quant has to at least be in yellow before yhou can jettison

[midnight harbor]

Are prospector lasers broken rn or smth mine are not working

[faint lance]

what about corsair and roc?

[pliant matrix]

corsair isn't out yet so idk

[faint lance]

72 scu

or do you need smt else?

[pliant matrix]

🤔 i don't see what the cargo capacity have to do with renting a roc and cutlass

[faint lance]

oh right

i forgot that you dont put the stuff in SCU space lmao

[pliant matrix]

well GL moving your hadanite gems one by one until you get 72scu xD

Cutlass is there to carry the roc actually. You can put what you gather in it but you lose a lot of time doing it

[faint lance]

lmao

how many gems would fir in 72scu (rough estimate) and how many does roc carry?

[hollow sedge]

what is the best laser for the MISC Prospector?

[glacial dagger]

Depends, what are you looking to mine?

[hollow sedge]

rocks

[pliant matrix]

Roc can gather 0.8scu for a full load... make the math

[glacial dagger]

Which type of mineral though?

Quant?

Diamond?

Copper?

Borase?

There are many

[hollow sedge]

the first

[glacial dagger]

Quantanium?

[hollow sedge]

yes

[glacial dagger]

You want the Lancet then

Lancet I for the Prospector, Lancet II for the MOLE

And for modules I like to reccomend 2x Reiger C3 and 1x Vaux C3

[hollow sedge]

i got the misc prospector

[civic parrot]

whats the best of the best mining utilites i need to buy for my prospector if anyone who more experienced than me in mining can you send me a spread sheet on what mods i need to buy for mining quantinum?

[glacial dagger]

You can get all of them at HUR-L2 as well

[glacial dagger]

Read what i jsut posted bud 😄

[civic parrot]

@glacial dagger is it in pins? cause i just joinned this server 2 minutes ago

[glacial dagger]

Nope, You just need to scroll up about 5-6 messages

@civic parrot Does that help you?

[faint lance]

i dont have the game yet mf

[glacial dagger]

Now now, no need to get angsty

[faint lance]

sowwy

[glacial dagger]

This is a helper channel, not a fighting channel

[civic parrot]

@glacial dagger kinda so these are the best of the best for my prospector cause a friend of mine lended me some money for
and i got a lot to spare into investing into my prospector. And i was told if i want to make millions go for quantinum only

[glacial dagger]

When it comes to mining, your friend is right, Quant is really the only minable actually worth it rn

So, lancet I with 2x Reiger C3 and 1x Vaux C3 modules

[pliant matrix]

Easy dude. Go trolling elsewhere then

[glacial dagger]

That is my reccomended mining loadout for a prospector

[faint lance]

what

[rugged axle]

Lancet, surge, reiger c3, vaux c3 is what I use. Surge is there to pop rocks quicker.

As a beginner, go with irons recommended of 2 reigers. Will give you a massive green zone so you don't blow yourself up

And as a fyi, modules do NOT claim on insurance. So if you blow up/claim the prospector/ anything happens, you lose the modules.

Which makes c3s very expensive for newer players at 60k a pop

[visual prism]

What is the best cheap loadout for the prospecter

[hollow sedge]

i cant find the lancet on Hur L2

[glacial dagger]

Not the Lancet, the modules

[hollow sedge]

um

where can i find the laser now?

[glacial dagger]

Most of the refinery decks, but I know CRU-L1 defo has them

[hollow sedge]

can i find it on Hur l2

?

[glacial dagger]

Potentially

!itemfinder

[wary tusk]

Universal Item Finder

Use the website to search for any item (and where to buy them) in-game.

[glacial dagger]

^Look it up in here

[hollow sedge]

but the lacet mh1 is for the graycat

i need one for the prospector

@glacial dagger

[glacial dagger]

Nope

[hollow sedge]

but it says it is

[glacial dagger]

It's for ships, it's just made by Greycat
https://finder.cstone.space/ShipMiningHeads1/ba94a262-bc0a-4484-9bbd-a4be7a2ec3e7

[hollow sedge]

ah

ok

and where can i put it on my ship?

[glacial dagger]

So long as yoru ship and the mining head are stored int he same location, it's in the vehicle manager tab in yoru mobi glass. Looks like a ship pointing upwards

Also, please dont just try and call me to try and get help faster. A) you could have asked to call first, and B) I'm at work rn so I wouldn't have been able to take the call anyway

[hollow sedge]

um

i cant buy the lancet bc i dont have space

[glacial dagger]

Make sure your buying to station inventory not your personal inventory

[hollow sedge]

how?

[glacial dagger]

In the top left of the buying terminal it should say Purchase location

Or something similar at least

[mighty prawn]

Just how long will it take to fill up ROC at a moon like Aberdeen, for Hadanite?

I know it varies, just asking for a ballpark

[hollow sedge]

@glacial dagger can you tell me why i cant see my ships when i press on "Select Ship"

[glacial dagger]

With some good luck and a good amount of dedication, anywhere between 40 mins to 75 mins

[glacial dagger]

Is your ship stored in your current location?

@hollow sedge ???

[jovial matrix]

45 minutes to an hour and a half, all depends on luck and speed of course

[fervent valve]

what is the cheapest ship that can fit a roc?

[glacial dagger]

Technically the freelancer, cutty black or potentially the Nomad

[fervent valve]

any freelancer?

the max can fit like 2 of em right?

[glacial dagger]

Pretty much, although the MAX is better fuited for it

[jovial matrix]

The nomad is the cheapest to buy, the cutty black is the cheapest to rent

[glacial dagger]

All the freelancers can fit 2 length ways, the MAX jsut gives you more sideways wiggle room

[fervent valve]

length wise as in the rocs are aliened with the ship?

[glacial dagger]

you drive/ reverse the ROCs in one after the other and their head to tail

In a single file line

[fervent valve]

wow the freelancer's cargo bay is that long?!

[glacial dagger]

yup

[jovial matrix]

You can do the same with a cutty black btw

For cheaper

[glacial dagger]

It's a deceptively long cargo bay

[fervent valve]

i was only ever able to fit one in there

[glacial dagger]

You aqueeze a little

[jovial matrix]

You can fit two, I’ve done it before. You have to exit out the side doors, but it works

[glacial dagger]

but yh, it is a little easier and more manuverable in a Cutty

In the curtty you can even fit 3 if your so inclined

[jovial matrix]

Indeed

[glacial dagger]

And if yoru willing to fly with the ramp down, you can even fit a 4th

[fervent valve]

that just sounds cursed

[glacial dagger]

It really is

Wait untill you hear about wacky backy mining though 😄

[fervent valve]

do i wanna know?

[glacial dagger]

5-6 people with hand mining tools can break ROC rocks

[worthy scroll]

Sounds like reverse Prospector mining.

[fervent valve]

the prospector is 2 ish mil right?

[glacial dagger]

ferry them all around in the back of an MPUV

[jovial matrix]

2.1mil

[fervent valve]

ouch

[glacial dagger]

Easy money and great for laughs

[jovial matrix]

That does sound like fun

[glacial dagger]

more than enough space for 4-5 people int he back of an MPUV

[jovial matrix]

Yeah

The personnel has plenty of seats

[fervent valve]

do you guys got moles?

[glacial dagger]

I remember when we could make boxes with the ROC so we would take it in terns to fill up the ROC box and stack it into the MPUV. We filing an MPUV ompletly and with hadanite boxes and sold it for something close to like...2mill or something?

[glacial dagger]

Yup

[glacial dagger]

Nahh bro, you go for the cargo

More space

[jovial matrix]

Ah ok

[glacial dagger]

And can actually have stuff sold from it's grid

[jovial matrix]

I am an ROC and hand miner, so no

[glacial dagger]

Slap a 1 SCU container in there and people can still fin in around it

[fervent valve]

if u ever need a mole turret gunner lmk

[jovial matrix]

That’s pretty funny

[glacial dagger]

Nice big spot for everyone to store all their mined goods into and is then protected from 30ks

[glacial dagger]

Whh, moles are kinda broken rn

[fervent valve]

you cant do that anymore?

[fervent valve]

how so?

[glacial dagger]

Nope

[fervent valve]

thats dumb

[glacial dagger]

Not the minables boxe3s anyway

Hence why we used a 1 SCU container instead now

Plus, everyone can access that, one at a time of course, to deposit their inventory of minerals 😄

I'm tempted to try and run something like it again actually...

[hollow sedge]

where do i have to transport the refined materials?

[jovial matrix]

I would be willing to do that with you

[fervent valve]

any major city on a planet

[fervent valve]

^

[hollow sedge]

then?

[fervent valve]

sell it?

[jovial matrix]

You head to the TDD and sell it

Stands for trade and development division

[hollow sedge]

umm

you mean

[jovial matrix]

Which city are you selling to?

[hollow sedge]

idk

im noob

[jovial matrix]

Well which planet are you closest to?

[fervent valve]

for example on hurston just keep on the train after you get the space port

[fervent valve]

likewise

[glacial dagger]

Hurston is a little different

For Hurston, Once you have landed at the space port and stored yoru ship, continue past the ASOP terminals and start heading back towards the haps. Once you see some green signs, follow the new route and you will get to the inner city train line that will take you to the CBT, Central Banking District

Once there, head inside and go to the first large room to the left. This is Hurston's trading centre.

[hollow sedge]

ok

but i think i will go to micro tech

[glacial dagger]

Hurston is so fun though...

Much more industrial

[jovial matrix]

MT is faster to sell to tho

Assuming you’re already in the microtech area that is

[glacial dagger]

Ehh, i still prefer the Hurston area. And besides with the upcoming Hurston update we might finally be able to land on the CBT building (with the right clearance) cutting trading times in half 😄

[jovial matrix]

True

[hollow sedge]

so where do i have to go now?

[glacial dagger]

Where did you go, MT or Hurston?

@hollow sedge???

[hollow sedge]

umm

wfym

wdym*

[hollow sedge]

i didn't go anywhere

im waiting at the refinerie

[glacial dagger]

Ah sorry, you jsut made it sound liek you were already there at MT

[hollow sedge]

so?

[glacial dagger]

???

So what?

[hollow sedge]

so where do i have to go now?

[jovial matrix]

Load your refined goods into whatever ship you’re using to haul, and then fly that ship to microtech

[glacial dagger]

Where do you want to go?

[glacial dagger]

He's still waiting for the refinery jobs to complete

[jovial matrix]

Pretty sure they’re already done refining

[jovial matrix]

Based off this message

[mighty prawn]

Did I hit a jackpot? This is the most I ever saw

I am at Aberdeen, but I am seeing green stuff

[glacial dagger]

I mean, it's only Dolivine, so it's not great..

[mighty prawn]

so,.... NOT jackpot??

ok, figured

[glacial dagger]

Ehh, still worth grabbing if you dont mind

They still sell, but their no Hadanite

Alslo, your in a prospector, yes?

Because those are hand/ROC/ROC-DS minables, you cant really mine and collect those

[mighty prawn]

No, about to rent ROC + Cutlass

I just wanted to make sure I can find stuff

[glacial dagger]

Try and buy (in game of course), rented stuff can get a little buggy sometimes

[mighty prawn]

Yeah, I want to try and planning to buy soon

[jovial matrix]

Don’t bother mining dolovine, sells for less than half of hadanite, or something similar to that

[glacial dagger]

What's the largerst cargo ship you have?

[jovial matrix]

How are they buggy?

[mighty prawn]

Titan is the biggest and only ship I have, so I have to rent to haul the ROC

[glacial dagger]

Cant be modified, can run out of juice sometimes

[glacial dagger]

Perfect. Look up SC Trade Tools and maybe looking into dug running

[jovial matrix]

The can’t be modified part isn’t a bug, and I’ve never had a rental just due on me before

[glacial dagger]

I'm not saying it;s a bug, just part of what can make it a little buggy

[topaz plover]

i hate rentals

[mighty prawn]

ROC do not need to be modified right? for gem mining? I just have to suit up?

[jovial matrix]

Nope

[glacial dagger]

Yup, just suit up

[jovial matrix]

And you only need to get a proper suit of armor if you’re mining on Ariel/Aberdeen

Daymar you can chill in an undersuit and helmet just fine

[glacial dagger]

I wonder if ROCs are still running out of juice though...

[jovial matrix]

Mine hasn’t ever broken down on me

And I always rent it

[glacial dagger]

neither has mine, because I'm not driving my ROC halfways across the dunes of Daymar and rocky pits of Abberdeen

[jovial matrix]

Neither am I lol

Why would someone do that

[hollow sedge]

how much do i get for 1300 Quantainium?

[glacial dagger]

??

[mighty prawn]

Is that raw ore? raw ore goes for 44$ per

[hollow sedge]

no

refined

[mighty prawn]

refined mineral goes for 88

[glacial dagger]

Refined quant goes for 88 aUEC/unit

[jovial matrix]

1400 SCU or 14SCU?

[glacial dagger]

so times that number by 88

Nice and easy

[glacial dagger]

more than likely 14SCU/1400units

[jovial matrix]

Mm

[glacial dagger]

Sorry, 13SCU/1300 units

[jovial matrix]

Oh I thought that said 1400

[glacial dagger]

@hollow sedge We're happy to help, but there are some things that you can look up yourself. You do have access to the internet and we have shown you the tools needed to find these things out

[glacial dagger]

I know what you mean, I had to do a double check for a second there 😄

[mighty prawn]

@hollow sedge , I found these useful: https://sc-trade.tools/ores/Spaceship

https://redmonstergaming.com/mining-cheat-sheets/

[hollow sedge]

ah

thanks

[glacial dagger]

now, please dont let this stop you from asking about stuff in here, but when it comes to prices and such, it's pretty easy to find out. I also recommend you favourite/bookmark these links as their really friggin useful 😄

[mighty prawn]

I saw in a video that if you want to transfer cargo from ROC to ship, you would have to do it manually one by one. Is this still the case?

[glacial dagger]

indeed

That's why i use a macro

[mighty prawn]

If I hit many rocks for Dolivine, I might consider just continue with mining rather than go back and sell for 100k worth

[glacial dagger]

Move my mouse into position, set off the macro

hold click

[mighty prawn]

oh, I see

[glacial dagger]

move left/right x pixles

release click

move right/left x pixels

repeat

[mighty prawn]

ok, gotcha, so I would have to keep doing this for 800 times? 😐

[glacial dagger]

Yes...or set up a macro

[mighty prawn]

Still less time than having to go back to an outpost and come back

[glacial dagger]

Trust me, once you have set it up, it's so useful 😄

[mighty prawn]

I think if I leave the area, the rocks are all gone

[mighty prawn]

ok, thanks, I will look into that

[hollow sedge]

so when i am at MT where can i sell my Materials?

@glacial dagger

[mighty prawn]

Take the metro train and go to commons, there you should see a trade center

I forgot it's full name

you will find a trading console

I found the name: Trade and Development Division

[hollow sedge]

um

[north oyster]

Fun, CIG saying the new 3.17.4 will go to Open PTU, probably in the next few days. Hope to fly my Corsair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mighty prawn]

Will all ships go on sale, or just corsairs?

[north oyster]

all ships @mighty prawn

[mighty prawn]

So, you already ordered Corsair?

[ivory gust]

I'm just said I didn't get a chance to get a Corsair CCU at the current price

[north oyster]

Yes, bought on concept. So I've got the loaner Connie

[zinc kettle]

How do you do cargo?

Im in a caterpillar atm and im wondering how i can make bank

[fervent valve]

just google like star citizen trade finder or sum like that

https://sc-trade.tools/home

this calculates everything for you

[zinc kettle]

im at the terminal yet theres no location or anything

[north oyster]

Look up Jack Axton on YT. He has an older video that is still very valid called a Trading refresher course (3.15)

[mighty prawn]

Will new ship like Corsair be immediately available for rental as well?

[north oyster]

He is the master of trade and this video lays out all the valid cargo routes and potential earnings

[north oyster]

Not sure how IAE will handle the rental kiosk. It is normally by day of manufacturer then "all of them" towards the end

ILW always released by that schedule and also last years IAE did also

[mighty prawn]

"where" is IAE held? do we actually going to a new station or something?

[north oyster]

New Babbage this year

it will have it's own subway stop

[mighty prawn]

gotcha

[north oyster]

NB will be more stable than Orison and possibly Area18

[north oyster]

The 3.17.4 will drop to PTU and be open for all users, so you will get a chance to dive in early if you want before it drops to LIVE

[mighty prawn]

Does everyone have access to PTU?

[north oyster]

DANGER WILL ROBBINSON
I anticipate that refinery jobs will be wiped when patch drops live

[north oyster]

Depends. Some PTU is NDA and only Evocatti has access. Then they release the PTU to "Waves" with Wave 1 being concierge and subscribers

if they say "open" then the PTU is for all players

Right now, as an example, 3.18 has been tested twice, each time with the Evocati team

They are under a non-disclosure agreement, so can not share specifics, features, screen shots, etc etc about the testing

The key word for the Evo experience is soulcrushing

[mighty prawn]

huh? how so? lot of work to be in Evo?

[north oyster]

Let's just say that those guys aren't Evo to play, the state of the game they are testing is brutal. Crashes and nothing but crashes

[ashen glade]

apparently cargo refractor info was posted by cig

[mighty prawn]

What do you mean cargo refactor, is there a cargo stuff re-work across all ships?

[ashen glade]

yes

the issue with cargo is that its very risky and pays low

what they're changing

idk

[mighty prawn]

oh, they are going to make it better

[ashen glade]

thats why I'm asking what they're gonna change i haven't seen the update

[verbal cargo]

you will be able to interact with the cargo and move them around in your ship, or move them to a friends ship to sell, etc.
in the future you will need npc or friends to help load your ship manually, but that is probably 6+mths away as they work on freight elevators. ISC tomorrow will have more info on the changes in 3.18

[ivory gust]

Would be nice to be able to put up cargo contracts for other players like EVE, so a miner could just put up a transport mission for their ore to a planet that way

[verbal cargo]

yea i'm excited for when the Expanse comes in and you can move those prospector saddlebags into the expanse refinery, or someone could run it to a station refinery perhaps

groundwork being laid for great gameplay in the future

[ashen glade]

is that it? why were people excited for this

I can see why moving cargo to another ship is good for piracy and the Hull ship variants

but that is what we were waiting for all this time???

[verbal cargo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=705&v=LxXy8HF1t70&feature=youtu.be

watch that from last years citizencon, goes really in depth for CIG vision of physicalized cargo

[ashen glade]

atleast piracy will be more prominent, can't wait to obliterate unlawful pirates tampering with my orgs cargo

[cobalt blaze]

the Andromeda (rent) QT cooldown is so slow...
I hope I don't get ambushed

[cobalt blaze]

how do I tell if my ship contains cargo? outside terminals?

[ivory gust]

Look in the cargo hold, everything except refined quantanium shows up in boxes

[cobalt blaze]

the hold is not full? Is that normal?

[jovial matrix]

If it’s refined quant, then yes

[cobalt blaze]

it's empty rn

[ivory gust]

Again, if it's refined quant, it doesn't show up in boxes, and the hold will look empty. That's normal.

[cobalt blaze]

aight cheers

my bad misinterpreted/misread

[vestal ravine]

October/Nov. 2022 9 Tails Medical Supplies cargo runs summary:

I am posting this event summary to help newer players get a clearer idea of what can transpire and how much money you can make.

There are 16 sessions to take part in and each Med run lasts 90 minutes on average. I am generally trying for two complete sales runs but that is hard to achieve on a consistent basis.

Front Loading: In the two days before the event I worked with the 2 accounts I have to purchase cargo in 3 different ships. These were an A2, a Hull A and a Freelancer Max. I completed this without any troubles. My primary cargo ship is the C2 and this was to big to load up in advance. This process gives you a head start out the gate.

Guessing Game: Another way to get a head start on selling any load is to park your ships at what L1 station you think the “Blockade” will be. It looks like they used L1, L4 and L5 the most and I was able to guess “right” on three occasions.

Out of 16 sessions I had 9 successful sales with 2 C2's lost to being shot down close in to the station. I only remember one 30K crash that negatively affected a 2nd purchase. (I did impounds almost every time)

Sales by ship: 5 C2's, 2 A 2's, one each Hull A and Freelancer Max.

GROSS 2 ACCOUNTS PROFIT: 3,756,111.00 Aeuc's...

[ivory gust]

For future reference, you don't have to guess, it always rotates counterclockwise - CRU L1, then L4, then L5, then repeat

[vestal ravine]

That's cool I never figured that out!!

[jovial matrix]

haul #1 of mining the first rock I find

this is in a rental, and since it takes so much time to find anything worth mining in a rental anyway, I figured Id just mine anything and try to do it as fast as possible

granted mining aluminum is really bad, but yeah

[midnight harbor]

Are prospector lasers broken rn or smth mine are not working

I have asked many times and have not gotten an answer

[jovial matrix]

found a really nice laranite rock, but didnt have the space to get nearly as much of it as I would've liked :(

[ivory gust]

Define "not working"

What laser are you using, what are you trying to mine (mass and composition)

[spring prism]

If the rock is 6000+ in mass, you won't be breaking it solo without consumable modules like surge/stampede.

[spring prism]

very bad, since its refined value is 1.3 UEC

[jovial matrix]

Yeah ik

[spring prism]

That's why I won't try asteroid mining again until 3.18 and PES, in hopes that ghost rocks get mostly fixed.

[midnight harbor]

I figured out the problem

[spring prism]

Then you should tell us what exactly was happening and what you did to resolve it, in case someone else has the problem.

[weak glen]

So, where can I find out what all the weird little buttons on the C2 ramp controls do?

[midnight harbor]

Well it was a bug that was occurring jf my ship got destroyed. Everytime my ship got destroyed it got rid of my mining laser.

[vestal ravine]

Some of those might be for future uses on like a "Gold Pass" and I have found the "Help" channel on this discord has some great people that may assist you.

[glacial dagger]

Obviously one of them opens the ramp completly, but I'm really hoping we will get the option to open the rear without putting the ramp down, jsut haveit as an opening in the back of the aircraft

Probably also a locking option on them as well so it cant be opened form the inside

[vestal ravine]

This notice from the latest RSI Update: "The ability to move all items from one inventory to another is now in the final internal test sweep."

[glacial dagger]

This...this will be very nice to do 😄

[cobalt blaze]

anyone has Caterpillar I could have a tour in?

[mighty prawn]

Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooood!!

[hollow sedge]

does anyone know how much the "HULE" costs

[fallen atlas]

!ships

[wary tusk]

Buy/Rent Ships

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[north oyster]

(Thursday) Current 3.17.4 IAE testing is being put on hold until early next week. Will give further updates as we have them!

not a great sign of things going smoothly, LOL

[ivory gust]

Inb4 "New plan, 3.17.4 will be just IAE related content, corsair pushed to 3.18"

[north oyster]

grrr!! don't talk like that

LOL, that would be crazy, I'm sure it would nearly cause a riot

[spring prism]

If they give a really good explanation, like if they couldn't turn off the cargo refactor grid on the Corsair, then it'd be fine. Devs have to be a little more transparent than "Oh it doesn't work."

[ivory gust]

Given that the 3.18 codebase diverged from the 3.17 codebase like eight months ago, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they're running into issues "backporting" corsair (and whatever other ships) to 3.17.4

(source: am dev at a large software company)

[spring prism]

Reminds me of how difficult it is for modders to backport features to old versions of Minecraft.

[north oyster]

Not just the ship but multiple other assets are in this category. Not seeing it going pretty

[pliant matrix]

I can see 3.18 being as fucked up as 3.5.0 some years ago

Game was kinda playable again at 3.8 iirc

[bold yew]

This depends on how well their architecture is set up. Also a dev 🙂

[prime pine]

Just getting into Prospector mining. Got the Lancet and other ship components. What are people liking to use for mining modules?

o7

[ivory gust]

If you're mining in the asteroid belt: Doesn't matter, use whatever you want, nothing is needed
If you're mining on a planet or moon: You'll want surge (possibly 2x surge) and stampede to break large rocks

Remember also that when your ship is destroyed or claimed, modules are lost

[prime pine]

Ok, I've been hitting the smaller Quant rocks (<5k mass) on moons with no modules, but figured I'd need them for the bigger ones.

Are passive modules any good?

[ivory gust]

They're okay but the effects are pretty weak for the cost

[prime pine]

Thanks!

So active ones are worth the cost?

I know they're cheaper

[ivory gust]

Active ones are very cheap and are basically required in order to break larger rocks

[fallen atlas]

Y'all DEFINITELY should watch the new ISC

[crimson mantle]

Quite the ISC

But once again it's mostly: we re-did what's already there. In the future we'll add more to it.

From that new terminal, it doesn't look like the backend changed at all 🤔

[fallen atlas]

The physicalized stuff is cool that it's actually interactable, but not really understanding the loading of crates and whatnot still. I'm assuming for now it's still gonna get teleported?

cause I really can't imagine people manually loading cargo to their ships in the open at a mining station or similar.

[spring prism]

40 SCU Cutlass Black

[ivory gust]

inb4 that's exactly what it is, and they don't actually increase the profits much

[crimson mantle]

It feels like, from a trader's point of view, we get new terminal. That's it.
Unless you get blown up/boarded, you won't feel anything different.

[ivory gust]

on the bright side, waiting for a full load of laranite is easy since you'll have to spend time loading it anyway!

[fallen atlas]

Please stop beating him CIG, he's already dead 😭

By the time you get one SCU box loaded and good to go, there might be another available! 😂

[ivory gust]

Also have fun trying to use a Hull-C for freight, can't finish loading the thing before someone comes along and blows you up (since you presumably can't be landed in a hangar while loading

[fallen atlas]

Yeah, I wonder how they're going to handle tractor beams in armistice.

[ivory gust]

Make them only work on something that you "own" or owned by your party -- your own cargo? fine.

someone else's cargo? nope

[fallen atlas]

Yeah, that'd make sense to me.

[sonic lily]

you mean in armistice

[ivory gust]

Right

[north oyster]

The Q&A they are going to have will hopefully give us some light on the issue of cargo and how it will be handled on the huge ships like the HULL C, D and E

[ivory gust]

unless they add new station-only routes, Hull C is going to have a great time making pennies trading scrap

[north oyster]

The trade system will totally different than today's. I'm thinking there will be contract work, reputation and also work available via reputation leveling that will offer large rewards

[ivory gust]

Would be nice

[cobalt blaze]

what is the refractor beam in cat?
still tryna decide if cat or c2

[fallen atlas]

There is currently no tractor beam functionality, but eventually ships like the car will be able to pull in cargo using the tractor beam

[verbal cargo]

if you fully man the turrets which ship is more lethal? CAT or C2?

[cobalt blaze]

think they around the same, same amount of turrets

actually maybe cat
you can only access one remote turret on c2

at a time*

[spring prism]

Just remember your choice for when relays/engineering becomes a thing Because I guarantee you that the Caterpillar will be harder to keep working if they add Dynamic Events that cause damage/etc. to relays on a whim.

[ivory gust]

C2 also has the maneuverability to actually use the pilot guns too

[spring prism]

I'm guessing the C2 lacks a tractor beam because of how easy to access its cargo bay is, and you can just use multi-tools for cargo boxes.

[cobalt blaze]

i hear cat will be better after update they said

[spring prism]

Gold pass will definitely change the Caterpillar, yeah.

[cobalt blaze]

well people who said cat was better

when thingymajingy becomes a thing

[fallen atlas]

Also different design choices. The C2 is made for hauling goods, the cat is made for scraping goods from space.

C2 is like refined goods and trade commodities. Cat is like, eat everything in front of me and shove it in to boxes.

[spring prism]

Plus 3.18 will allow you to finally use the tractor beam attachment in Armistice zones. Which is the best thing ever.

[fallen atlas]

Like the Canterbury from Expanse

[cobalt blaze]

is armstice zones like goods outposts?

[spring prism]

Anything with the bullet icon that has the strikethrough circle. Such as space stations, cities, mining outposts and research outposts.

Mining/Research outposts will probably spawn cargo you buy in those large shipping containers when they add that system, since there's no Cargo Dispensers in those locations unlike space stations. As such, it'll take longer to load at outposts than it will at space stations. This would probably help deal with low stock on high value goods.

[ivory gust]

We said we hoped it would be better

[fallen atlas]

I imagine they'll be grouped larger than just 1 SCU if bought in bulk and then snappable into place.

[spring prism]

I think that's what those black boxes are meant to be at the outposts, since they look like huge SCU Boxes

[cobalt blaze]

I asked other people in game too, more or less they prefer cat because cat is life they said

[ivory gust]

Caterpillar is better because it feels balanced to be a big cargo ship, not massively OP like the C2

[fallen atlas]

Yeah, perhaps certain multiples of 1 SCU boxes depending on how much you buy. Or perhaps selectable. Like, "Oh There are 40 SCU of Laranite available, I'll need 5 8 SCU boxes."

[ivory gust]

But honestly right now, if you're buying in game, the only reason to get a Caterpillar instead of a C2 is because you like how it looks. The C2 is objectively better in every way other than that

[fallen atlas]

C2 is a great ship

[spring prism]

3.18 will get a wipe anyway, so in-game bought ships will get thanos'd

Which thankfully will get rid of my extra prospector

[ivory gust]

Yep, that's why it doesn't matter what changes for cargo refactor are in that choice

But it sounds like in T0 there won't be any advantage to caterpillar and C2 will maintain its dominance

[spring prism]

But since Vulture is coming with 3.18, that won't matter, since my vulture prospector will be thanos'd

[cobalt blaze]

C2 it is then
sad about the wipe
already sad about the UEC i lost lol

[spring prism]

You'll get 20,000 after the wipe anyway, to start you off

But I have a feeling RMC is going to be OP at the start for selling until they figure out a good price to effort ratio. They will definitely make RMC sell for more than Waste and Scrap. I'm thinking more similar to Medical Supplies.

[cobalt blaze]

don't have the actual money to buy ships
starting ships are rough, or I'm just not good at earning lol

every time I try to earn I lost more than what I earn lol

took me a while to get going

[spring prism]

I do box deliveries, which rockets my UEC up pretty quickly when I can chain them together. What you usually want to do is take all six of them after the initial single box delivery, and pray you don't get 30k, and map out how you will take what boxes and to where in what order. Usually at least 6 of the boxes go to the same place or same planet/moon. If you aren't high reputation already, 30k may get you into negative, which forces you to wait out the timer on the reputation gauge.

[cobalt blaze]

I can't fit any more than 3 boxes in my aurora lol

[ivory gust]

obvious solution is to abandon aurora, embrace UPS truck pisces

[cobalt blaze]

that's 1 mission that pays 8k, also they glitch out on me

[spring prism]

That's why I have the 135c

One SCU Grid space can fit about 4-8 boxes

[cobalt blaze]

still need to buy pisces

[ivory gust]

delivery missions can definitely be rough sometimes when they're buggy

[spring prism]

I haven't had problems with bugginess. But just as a tip: If you KNOW where your box goes, you can STILL deliver it even if there's no mission marker. The server still sees the mission points as valid

[fallen atlas]

Titan or Nomad would be some cheap-ish options that give a lot more storage space.

[spring prism]

Nomad is really nice if you can get over the nose pointing down in atmosphere.

[ivory gust]

I'm more referring to the bugs where the shelf or delivery box won't accept the package even when it's the right location

[cobalt blaze]

titan rent costed me 300k by accident

[spring prism]

I've actually never had this happen since I started playing in august. Only the pip getting removed.

[spring prism]

Chose more than one day, didn't you.

[cobalt blaze]

well I was new alright lol

i chose 3, became 30

I'm considering spending more for titan starter

[ivory gust]

Lucky you, I wonder if some places are buggier than others. I saw it last time I attempted box missions around Microtech a few months back and haven't bothered since

[cobalt blaze]

well I'm still new

[spring prism]

Titan is a really good all-rounder. Can handle NPC ships reasonably well if you meet them while doing boxes.

The only thing I'd recommend if you get the titan, is change its shield to Palisaide, and take either laser cannons or laser repeaters. In addition, be patient when putting box delivery boxes down, they can sometimes rubberband.

[cobalt blaze]

was wondering if I should've gone for mustang as starter earlier actually

[spring prism]

Mustang works for box deliveries now. Since uh, 3.15 or something? I can't remember. Because the boxes now open up, allowing you to put stuff in them

[cobalt blaze]

oh yeah rubberband fun
sometimes I can't even pick em up lol

[spring prism]

A lot of ships with internal space will work for box deliveries, even the vanguard. Which is one of the reasons I'm gettign a sentinel, though I'm getting it with UEC, not pledge.

[cobalt blaze]

so many ship names I don't even know lol

[fallen atlas]

!ships 🙂

[wary tusk]

Buy/Rent Ships

• How to [buy](#976514975646482472 message) or [rent](#976514975646482472 message)?
• Where to buy in-game?
• List of Pledge Vehicles
• Flyable Ships Catalogue

[cobalt blaze]

I have so many tabs open lmao

[blissful flume]

Is quantum mining good gig?

[cobalt blaze]

yup

[ivory gust]

Quantanium mining is the best source of non-combat pve income in the game

Begging makes more money but that's pvp

[blissful flume]

Thanks Chris thought about buying prospect

[cobalt blaze]

I think pity makes more money
I just get given money without asking
even worth a c2

[blissful flume]

I'm just trying a way to make in game money and understand mining and stems

[ivory gust]

There are lots of good tutorials on YouTube

[cobalt blaze]

feels bad to be given $

[spring prism]

It's happening, strap in people, #956653690478006303 will be getting more on the refactor soon: #956653690478006303 message

[cobalt blaze]

TS-2 would be the best QD for C2 right?

[glacial dagger]

It is the fastest, yes

Personally thats really the only quality I look for in QT drives rn

But once Pyro, Nyx and the other systems start to come out, I might have to reconsider

[cobalt blaze]

cooldown is pretty handy too
don't want to wait half a minute for it to cool down
feel like a sitting target duck

I believe should work fine for those
Idk too much about getting to those systems though
I feel like they could take hours or just a cutscene

[glacial dagger]

That's more to do with your coolers than the drive itself

Better coolers can help cool it much faster

[cobalt blaze]

Ohh I see

[glacial dagger]

Also, one of CIGs promises was '0 cutscreens, not a single one, nada, nope, ziltch'

[cobalt blaze]

well kinda a cutscene I guess
still able to interact with the ship

[glacial dagger]

Nope

No

[cobalt blaze]

since I feel like any waiting is more of loading screen in a sense

[glacial dagger]

Cutscenes

And have you seen the current concept footage for flight during the jump points between systems? You have to actually steer the ship inside a constantly shifting tube

[cobalt blaze]

well nop
I suppose different from a QD then
idk too much

[glacial dagger]

Yh, technically that would be classified as a jump drive I think? Might still use a QT drive just with a modifier

[scenic python]

whats the button that opens all of the doors or hatches?

[jovial matrix]

While in the pilots seat, hold F and right click. That’ll pull up a wheel of options, and one should say “open/close all doors”

[spring prism]

Really glad there's a wispy path to follow to help guide you.

[spring prism]

I'm pretty sure you just fly into it, since they only had to activate the Jump Point's frame, then fly into it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkhBfB6z2v8

But that may have changed since.

[marble crater]

can't wait to 30K in the jump tunnel and respawn in the void

[scenic python]

Thank you kindly

Where does one go in order to spawn land vehicles?

[jovial matrix]

Head to any mining outpost

There’s a blue building with some small pads next to it. Go in there and there’s a terminal to spawn your vehicle

[scenic python]

Any on Lyria?

[jovial matrix]

Yeah

I don’t know the name of one specifically, but look for “arccorp mining area”

Don’t go to a processing facility, those ones aren’t friendly

[marble crater]

POI's with HDMS also have full facilities

[scenic python]

whats HDMS

[marble crater]

a category of Outpost. Hurston Dynamics Mining Station. eg HDMS-Bezdek

[jovial matrix]

All mining outposts are the same, they just have slightly different layouts and are named different things depending on where they are

[ivory gust]

There's also a place to spawn ground vehicles in New Babbage (in the commons) and Lorville (city gates)

[full mantle]

Cant wait to see what the final version for Pyro access opn this is going to be like

[scenic python]

So I'm at Shubin Mining Facility SAL-2 and I can't find the vehicle spawn?

is it inside or out?

[spring prism]

There is an ASOP Terminal inside the blue building with the antenna array on it. It allows spawning of ground vehicles and Extra Small Ships like the 100i

[ivory gust]

That might not have one... Some of the "mining facilities" don't have pads

[scenic finch]

Finally got my first FULL prospector hull back. Felt amazing

[jovial matrix]

nice

quant?

[scenic finch]

Yea lol. Has been a learning curve 😂

[civic parrot]

what mining modules should i go for, cause the dps site doesn't say anything about modules

[glacial dagger]

What are you looking o mine?

[civic parrot]

yes

[glacial dagger]

???

[civic parrot]

i want to look on a site and understand what each modlule does. I screenshotted your build but still dont understand how to use them or what they even do, i wish theyre was a website for it

[glacial dagger]

I ask because going for quant and going for other stuff requires different modules

Going for Quant you wanna prioritise stability and optimal zone. For everything else, you jsut wanna look at increasing optimal zone and power input

[glacial dagger]

Which build are you reffering to bud?

[civic parrot]

okay, cause i just wanna go into quan thats about it

The 2x Rei C3 and Vaux C3

[glacial dagger]

*Reiger, and ah, ok then

Well, Item finder is pretty good for it

https://finder.cstone.space/

[civic parrot]

is theyre like a spreadsheet for what each of them do and explains it like the dps or i just have to do more research @glacial dagger

[glacial dagger]

If you follow the link and then scroll down to and select 'Ship Modifiers' under the mining section, that will tell you abount all the different modules and their respective stats

[marble crater]

Mining Reference Sheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eXWAtXTkoLgCWFzm-xDhvjyDuV8LPMkSvGoDjsWJy_k/edit#gid=0

[civic parrot]

okay thank you guys so much

[glacial dagger]

nw bud, we're happy to help 😄

[marble crater]

everyone pretty much just uses the Lancet + Surge/Stampede for everything lol

which is why Sheets don't really get brought up

[glacial dagger]

Nahh bro, it's all about the Reiger C3 and Vaux C3. Means you dont really have to replace them unless you claim your ship. It also makes the greenzone nice and managable

[marble crater]

how do you break 7T+ rocks?

[glacial dagger]

In a prospector? You dont, nice and easy

Also, I dont do planet mining, I much prefere the Aaron Halo

[marble crater]

that's why I mentioned Lancet + Surge + Stampede for everything

[glacial dagger]

you never get more than 5.5k mass rocks up there, so 😄

But that rasies the instability sooo mcuh though...

[marble crater]

yeah Halo works very nicely with passive modules. my preferred way as well

[civic parrot]

question what instability means? is that the red zone that you want to avoid?

[toxic citrus]

Instability means the arrow you are attempting to keep in the green zone fluctuates more violently

[marble crater]

with Quant it gets pretty erratic

[civic parrot]

so u want to aim for a module that negates the instability in the negative?

[toxic citrus]

It makes it harder to keep in a single position

[toxic citrus]

Yes. I think?

[marble crater]

and the Lancet is the most stable by a long shot. easier to make up the power

[glacial dagger]

Considering a 4.8k mass rock with at least 12% quant should fill a prospector with quant, why both going planet side and risk getting caught

[toxic citrus]

That is if you are able to divide the rock properly

[marble crater]

less bugs planetside especially with unscannables

[toxic citrus]

Some times things don't go your way

[glacial dagger]

But it's also easier to get to CRU-L1 for the +6% quant bonus in the halo between CRU-L1 dna ARC-L3

[hardy hemlock]

so I like the argo mole, and I usually have at least one friend to play with

should I be focusing on lyria or belts?

does the mole have the same scanning issue in astroid belts?

[glacial dagger]

Personally, i would still say belts because the MOLE still currently has a dropping issue if the pilot seat isn't in use, meaning with 1 friend you still only have 1 laser in use

[hardy hemlock]

weird, but okay

[glacial dagger]

It's a bud that I really hope they manage to sort out soon

[ivory gust]

Not sure what math you're doing here, but you need a 32% at 5k mass to fill a Prospector, assuming perfect breaks. 12% at 4.8k is less than 12 SCU.

[tiny lake]

You guys notice that the price of cargo in the refactor vid was about ten times more costly than at present?

[sonic laurel]

probably just something random in their testing servers

[tiny lake]

Damn. Was hoping hauling might become more profitable with the ramp up in piracy we're gonna see

[sonic laurel]

it will be

they reward the things they want tested

[tiny lake]

Well thats good to hear. Im gonna have to start hiring escorts

[cerulean lichen]

Got jumped by a player when selling my quant. Lost about a full cutlass worth. Didn’t even ask for a ransom, just started blasting

[ivory gust]

Yep, some people are like that. There's no real penalty for that kind of thing at this time, so they do it just because they can

[cerulean lichen]

Was a cutlass blue as well so I couldn’t even run. I just logged out to avoid giving them the satisfaction

[hollow sedge]

I just want to put out there that about 3 weeks ago, I noticed I was getting a bit less than UEXcorp or other calcs were giving me. I thought I just wasn't collecting everything. But I've noticed it's consistent. These calculators think it's about 50kg per SCU, but I've noticed they're overestimating my gains by about 28%, consistently.

It's really more like 62 to 63 kg per SCU

[reef smelt]

Can the expanse refine material from the Argo mole?

[hardy mesa]

I wouldn't see why not might not be able to run it all at once though the system is based on the bags on the side so take what you want from that

[cerulean lichen]

Took a few hours but I have enough quant in a refinery to replace what I lost

[sleek torrent]

What’s the highest percentage quant rock you guys have mined?

[jovial matrix]

0%

[outer meadow]

Anyone have a guide to trading? Not the "you buy shit somewhere random and drop it somewhere else and bam money" but more in depth: prices of individual cargo, best place to sell which cargo or to buy which cargo, trade routes, best cargo for what missions, and missions types, etc

(i dont have the game yet but i am getting a pc soon and the game so i wanted to start learning things)

[ivory gust]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[ivory gust]

Note that making decent money trading requires a large ship

[sleek torrent]

Nice, that’s a good number to compare with. Thanks

[jovial matrix]

lol

[ivory gust]

I've hit 45% or so a couple times, I think. I once had a cluster with two of those and managed a 95.99 SCU Quant run in the MOLE

[outer meadow]

Is the Avenger Titan a good starting point?

[jovial matrix]

nope

the freelancer max is about as small as you can get while still making somewhat of a profit

[outer meadow]

Hmm

So what kind of mission can i take at the start, bounty hunting?

[ivory gust]

Beginner bounty missions will be doable in the titan, yes. You can also do package delivery missions or FPS combat missions

[outer meadow]

Is the payout alright?

[ivory gust]

Beginner bounty missions will give you 2-6k for a couple minutes of work, initial package delivery missions will be 8k for 10-15min of work, fps combat can start at a lot more than that if you do cave missions and loot the gems from bad guys and boxes

once you've built up about 40k you can also try out mining by renting a ROC and Cutlass at a refinery, which will be 100-200k/hr

[outer meadow]

Cool

Now i gotta get a pc and a game
Any orgs or groups out there that help out new players in game?

[vestal ravine]

There are plenty. I suggest Frontier Consolided. Team mining can have high earnings.

[lean apex]

Hey guys can anyone tell me if the 1scu cargo box trick from putting 2 pembroke armors into a ship still is meant to work ?
have tried a couple of times but no box spawns

[outer meadow]

Cheers ill check it ou

[hollow sedge]

can anyone help me? i want to transport my material to MT but there are not boxes in my Cutless black. is this a bug? i only transport Quant and Bexalite

[tiny lake]

damn, 5 quant rocks in one spot and can't mine any of em

[prisma scarab]

x If your transporting Quant, the refinery will dump it all into the ship. It does not show up as cargo right now. Load the ship. move it and sell it.

[spring prism]

USC is another, it's the one Farrister belongs to. But they have a strict entry system and are absolutely against illegal in-game activities

[spring prism]

I'm guessing 6000+ Mass Rocks, and you don't have surge/stampedes?

[tiny lake]

They were duds. Couldn't target em or scan em with a mining laser

[spring prism]

Were they in the halo?

[lyric stream]

Hey guys, i was wondering how i garauntee making profit trading with my Herc C2?

do i just fly from a to b with cargo and sell for garaunteed profit?

is it based on distance, supply demand?

[spring prism]

Supply/Demand, and initial value, Wholly.

Laranite is the most profitable commodity that isn't vices. But all outposts don't have enough to fill a herc in one sitting. Also, anyone can scan you to see your cargo.

[cerulean lichen]

My largest rock quant was 49.6 percent at a mass of 5.2k. So much quant was left when I filled my prospector

[outer meadow]

Interesting altho the whole being agaisnt illigal activitied is kinda shit

[spring prism]

Since I don't plan to do said activities, I'm fine with it.

[outer meadow]

Oh ye, np aswell but i kind of wanted to experience all aspect of the game

[spring prism]

Technically the "Disposal" missions that have you gathering up waste on Microtech, are usually "Illegal" but the NPCs don't care. The extended info option to show some debug info calls the tracked mission "unlawful_"

There are definitely lawful disposal missions. But you don't know unless you explicitly know what place you're getting the waste/scrap from.

[thorn spindle]

48% was the purest ive ever found

that shit was uncut raw

[spring prism]

32%, 4500 Mass

Was also in a 4 rock cluster

I think they mean the initial rock pre-break. Both Q-Type and Quant Deposits have a maximum of 50% un-broken / spawned

https://sc-trade.tools/deposits/Quantainium Deposit
https://sc-trade.tools/deposits/Asteroid (Q-Type)

[tiny lake]

Is there some kinda bug that makes my prospector not scan rocks to mine them?

Or a key I might've accidentally pressed?

[ivory gust]

Unscannable rocks. Happens all the time in the asteroid belt.

[tiny lake]

No, I mean all rocks.

On Lyria, in the Halo.

I can't scan ~anything~

[ivory gust]

Are you in mining mode?

[tiny lake]

Yes.

I can ping the rocks in normal scanning

[ivory gust]

Bedlog to switch to another server.

[tiny lake]

tried that, too. Maybe I got unlucky.

[ivory gust]

If you're in mining mode and within 300m of the rock/asteroid, it should give you the details if it's not unscannable

And you can see details in mining mode up to 12km away in space with a ping

[tiny lake]

Yeah, I've been mining for a while, I know how it usually works.

That's why I'm asking about a bug or akeybind

Sounds like it's a just me thing

[ivory gust]

Nope, more likely just a bad server. Switch to a different region to force a different server

[tiny lake]

k. Land down under, here I come!

[tiny lake]

how do you turn on the center turret in the mole?

is there a hotkey I can use or is there someplace weird I have to look

nm

[unreal heath]

Is grim hex the only place that buys widow?

[spring prism]

https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/WiDoW

"No Questions Asked" Trading Console
Stanton > CRU L4 > CRU-L4 Shallow Fields Station

Is the only other place to sell it

Note that you will LOSE profit by selling it to the CRU-L4 station. Since CRU-L4 only buys it for 24 each

[misty coyote]

Is the talks of the Argo MCV fake news? I didn't think CIG wanted manufacturing

Or is MCV a different acronym?

[sleek torrent]

The Argo MCV is in the files, which is why it is being talked about. But we don’t have any information about it besides it’s name. Everything is speculation at the moment.

[verbal cargo]

What's MCV stand for? Mining Cargo Vehicle?

[misty coyote]

The files mentioned manufacturing...

From a YT vid

[tiny lake]

Argo ship! Oh shit!

[misty coyote]

Who knows.... I am wondering if its a hab creation ship....

Though I'd love manufacturing to be in the game, I don't see how you can with actual manufacturing companies?

I wouldn't be surprised if munitions had a manufacturer stamp.... So what can you make of note?

Cobbled shield gens? Like Bandit tech from borderlands?

Or knock offs?

Unless you have to buy the rights to manufacturer... Like a temporary copyright license..

[wind coral]

Multi combat vehicle

Agro finally going wild

[sleek torrent]

Probably will be buying blueprints

[zinc kettle]

Are diamonds worth it?

Cant find much lanite

[spring prism]

Hadanite is the highest value gem: https://sc-trade.tools/deposits/Hadanite

You want to use a ROC of course.

Diamond is terrible by the way: https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Diamond (Raw)

Bexalite is the next best thing to Laranite if you don't like Quantainum.

Since Bexalite, when refined, sells for as much as Raw Quantanium (44 UEC each unit.)

Each SCU is 100 units. So if you have 32 SCU of Bexalite, it would be 140800 aUEC for a full yield of bexalite.

[zinc kettle]

Was doing cargo :/ too late now

[spring prism]

If you were doing cargo, the next best thing is commodities like titanium, agricium, etc.

[ivory gust]

Diamonds and laranite aren't gems

[spring prism]

I still find it funny that Diamond is a "Metal" Ore.

[worthy scroll]

Man, I spent all weekend no-life running cargo so I could get a C2 again. Finally got it. Took it on it's first cargo run, I had just enough to fill it, 731 credits left. Jump back to Hurston to sell, ship blows up at the end of the jump.

[jovial matrix]

RIP

[worthy scroll]

Hundreds of cargo runs these past few months and that's never happened.

[junior edge]

hey guys im about to do my first run of selling quantum refined, where do you go to sell it

[jovial matrix]

any city

except for orison, dont go there

head to whichever city is closest, and then go to the TDD (trade and development division) to sell your quant

[delicate relic]

Can a cutty black hold 2 rocs, and is there a way to transfer the roc inventory to the cutty so we can prolong the mining trip between selling?

also what ya think is a solid bet aside from a cutty black for 2 rocs?

[jovial matrix]

yes and yes

[delicate relic]

will the transfered inventory become cargo boxes in cutty, or act like internal stroage?

[jovial matrix]

you have to back the first ROC in backwards, and then the second ROC drives in normally. You'll have to open the doors from the pilots seat once you land so that you can actually get out of the cutty, but it works

[delicate relic]

ahh good additional info!

[jovial matrix]

you just have to open the inventory of the ROC and then transfer your gems to the inventory of the cutty

[jovial matrix]

its just internal storage, no boxes

it would be the same as moving an item from your ship inventory to a station inventory, except you're moving items form the ROC inventory to the cutty inventory

[delicate relic]

ahh perfect info, thanks! ( sorry got distracted for a bit. )

[jovial matrix]

All good

Also, you have to back the first ROC up until it hits the wall, otherwise the other one might not fit

[delicate relic]

haha, rodger that, I am running all over the place while talking.

[spring prism]

Have fun manually dragging items from the ROC into the cutlass' inventory, unless you use VoiceAttack.

[delicate relic]

ohhhh, didnt think of that enjoyment. may just do single roc full runs then. ( at elast till transfer all buttons and shift click to transfer stuff. )

[pliant matrix]

Freelancer max can easily take two. MSR too (flies better but longer to reach seat)

[ivory gust]

Carrack

[burnt storm]

MSR

[tiny lake]

😦

[glacial dagger]

Jesus people really don't play safe, do they. This would have broken two of my personal cargo rules;

1. Don't load more than half your wallets worth into a single cargo haul.

2. Don't load more than you would be comfortable losing from a crash, 30k or other issue.

3. Never spend more than 200k on cargo until both the first two points are rendered un-needed due to sufficient wallet size.

Follow these rules and your wallet should never go below a certain level unless your playing a bit dumb or you like the risk.

[north oyster]

that's why I mine until when I use aUEC for Trading, it's "fun money" and it's lost is of no concern

[north oyster]

From the PTU forum on Spectrum (Public)
(Monday) We are currently looking to have a 3.17.4 IAE Expo Hall playtest later this afternoon on the PTU for all backers! Start time TBD but will let you all know when we are closer to knowing!

[narrow grove]

https://www.erkul.games/loadout/SNh3T4Pn this good mole?

[worthy scroll]

Lol, I know all this. I'm not mad about it, I just thought it was funny that something like this would happen on that specific run, having never happened to me before. I'm not new to this, fairly experienced in fact. It wasn't a complaining comment, just sharing.

[glacial dagger]

Ah, fair enough 😄

[worthy scroll]

I'm one of the rare type of people who don't play to grind cash, I just fart around for fun. The only reason I grinded to a C2 over the weekend was because I wanted a change of scenery from my Cat, and to do some testing.

[spring prism]

C1 is now off the pledge store, since the concept Sale is over.

[rugged axle]

Itll probably be back for IAE tbf lol.

[hollow sedge]

Do maintenance missions rank up?

[north oyster]

3.17.4 has been opened to the PTU. No Corsair though

[mighty prawn]

Bah, I was going to check PTU just for Corsair

[north oyster]

It will be on the showroom floor, I am certain. I'm talking about those who have purchased it and were wanting to fly her.

[mighty prawn]

So, I can take a look around, but I cannot even rent it right now in PTU, right?

[north oyster]

Correct. PTU is pre-testing, not sure rental will be an option yet

[worthy scroll]

Me. That's me. I want to fly Corsair!

😬

[mighty prawn]

Just curious, why are you interested in Corsair?

[worthy scroll]

Because it's sexy and I'm a Drake fan.

Really that's it for me. Plus I'm all about exploration.

But to be honest, since it's really a combat ship over anything else, I'll likely melt it after I try it out, because I have other things I plan on getting this IAE.

[north oyster]

Corsair NOT in the display hall 😦

[worthy scroll]

I can't even get there. The top part of the map is cut off for me so I can't set jumps. Figured I'd eyeball it. Stopped at a lagrange for fuel, intending to jump to MT from there, but this is one of those largranges where it hides Q points while you're there, and I can't select one on the map to jump.

Hmm, out of a ship the map is working fine.

In ship

Out.

[marble crow]

uh oh i made a fucky wucky and bought the mole and i need some help because im broke and new to mining

[worthy scroll]

Looks like that map issue was with the Glaive. Got in another ship and it's fine.

[jovial matrix]

Yeah it’s just the glaive

[worthy scroll]

First time in it. I saw we had all the ships so I was like "How you doin".

[ivory gust]

Look up tutorials on Youtube

[north oyster]

I would recommend setting spawn point to New Babbage

[rancid bear]

how long for places to refill their demand for cargo?

[sonic heart]

cool min

[tiny lake]

A "server tick" seems to be anywhere from 5 to 15 minutes from what I've seen. If you want to see the rate check out sc-trade.tools

Both buys and sells have certain caps and recharge rates

[north oyster]

https://sc-trade.tools/home Has the timer refresh rate for each place for both selling and buying

[tiny lake]

Did anyone look at the raft on the ptu? Curious if the elevator is fixed

[dusk lagoon]

please give me free cargo ship im poor

[worthy scroll]

You can't give cargo.

[misty coyote]

Yet

[worthy scroll]

™️

[misty coyote]

Kinda looking forward to that.

If they had hanger space to deliver to for refining orders

Then you have legit loops

For hauling your mate's cargo

[dusk lagoon]

i want ship to deliver cargo

give me money for a freelancer

pls

[hasty stump]

**5. No trading or selling for any items; virtual or physical except in market-street💰 . Real money trading, begging (even as a joke), or spamming is always prohibited. **

[ivory gust]

Begging is literally against the rules for this Discord, I suggest you stop unless you want a ban

[dusk lagoon]

oh

i didnt know

i have a question: what is the best cargo ships to buy?

[ivory gust]

C2 or Caterpillar. Anything less than that won't make a lot of money in the current version of the game.

[dusk lagoon]

okay thanks

[ivory gust]

So 3.18 just gives traders more risk but no more reward:

[copper goblet]

where should i go to mine qunatanium

[worthy scroll]

This is what I'm looking forward to. I never did care for trading in these games, but cargo missions are my jam.

[silk ridge]

Just do a hand full of Box missions... The Freelancer is so cheap, you have it within 1-2 days of delivering boxes ... and that's literally the slowest way.

[copper goblet]

is this a good rock?

[stable moth]

It's all personal preference. I don't ever mine anything under 25% Quantanium unless I find one right away

[ivory gust]

Ehhhh. Low mass and low %, you've got maybe 15 SCU of Quant there

[tiny lake]

Mine it toasted! It's a good first rock to start out with!

[pastel flame]

If only they were changing the cargo values with the physicalized patch and not down the road sometime :/

[worthy scroll]

Yeah I get that, but at the same time it's a why change it now when it has to be changed again later thing. More work for no real reason.

[north oyster]

Also, the new trade system will have two venues: Mission style cargo and then player owned cargo.

Reputation for hauling cargo and then player owned buy/sell

[worthy scroll]

The missions are what I'm stoked about.

[vestal ravine]

Will higher rep levels unlock higher paying jobs?

[worthy scroll]

That's generally how it works.

[vestal ravine]

And the mission "cargo" is just like boxes of air so to speak?

[spring prism]

I found out during the PTU that the cockpit visibility on the C2 Hercules and the Freelancer MAX are the same. It's just the style/design of the top and bottom are flipped.

[blissful flume]

Question

[lyric owl]

hay, where can i buy the waveshift gadget, having some trouble

[blissful flume]

What is the best mining head for prospector mining for quantum

[lyric owl]

aswell, a impact 1 , two focus 3 modules, and a vauxhall be would be enough for what size rock, potentially a waveshift too. any help would be appriciated :D

[lyric owl]

inmy opinion its the impact 1

[lyric owl]

heres a photo of all the mining heads thatll fit on the prospector

[blissful flume]

Thank you

[lyric owl]

here are the passive moduels

since the impact has room for 3, a great build would be 2 focus 3, and 1 vaux c3

gadject may verry but for thoes BIG rocks that will leave you heartbroken to leave because you can get the,

get a waveshift

aswell as the consumable bandit would help a ton

[ivory gust]

Lancet. I don't know why this guy above is going on about anything other than that. Lancet is by far the easiest laser to use for mining quantanium

The only reason to use anything other than Lancet is if you really, really don't like how the Surge module works and you still want to be able to mine larger rocks

But a Lancet can mine any quant rock up to ~5.5k mass without needing modules or gadgets at all, which you can't do with any other laser

[tiny lake]

So currently if someone steals my ship full of cargo they cant do anything with it

But in 3.18 they'll be ablento sell at NQAs?

[worthy scroll]

The way it was explained is that it'll be just like other cargo, but not exactly high value commodities that others would really profit from if they were to take it from you. But it'll still be real cargo.

If you've ever played Elite Dangerous, it'll probably be like that. You have trading where you research trade routes, buy and sell yourself, then there are cargo missions, where you're given cargo and run it from A to B.

[tiny lake]

I also recently switched to Impact 1 after being on a lancet for a while. I got tired of finding rocks I couldnt mine

[ivory gust]

Maybe. They might need to move it into their own ship to sell it. Currently the devs haven't said anything about lifting the "can only sell from a ship you own" thing

[ivory gust]

... Lancet with surge and stampede can mine basically anything

[lyric owl]

you saying the lnacet could mine certain rocks or the impact?

[tiny lake]

I had more luck with the impact

[lyric owl]

alright

[tiny lake]

Sure, but I got tired of having to rebuy modules every time I pulled my ship and found the Impact could do it all without modules

[lyric owl]

what sub-components did you use?

[tiny lake]

I dont anymore. They disappear so regularly that I got tired of rebuying

[lyric owl]

alright

wait

[tiny lake]

Ive reset my character three times and cant escape this bug

[lyric owl]

let me run some nu,bers really quick

[ivory gust]

You're able to mine 100% Quant chunks with the impact's +10% instability without modules or gadgets?

[tiny lake]

Yeah

Never seen a full rock of quant but if you mean after the first break yeah thats not bad

And Im able to mine bigger rocks than I could in the naked lancet

[ivory gust]

Right, after the first rock

[tiny lake]

Optimim range, stick to the edge, paddle the beam, easy

Oh and I do the thing to press g twice so the mining head on the gimble is easier to wiggle so i avoid exploding a rock

Without like throwing my whole ship around

Because nobody likes blowing up a roxk

[fresh flame]

Can you explain stick to the edge and paddle the beam? Or is there a good guide that goes more in depth

[tiny lake]

I don't know if there's a guide, it's just a thing I started doing to not blow up rocks but crack hard-to-crack rocks

put full power to the beam and shoot it at the edge of the rock in a way that you can quickly wiggle it off the rock when you overload it and let it cool down

then put it back on

once it's at the bottom of the optimum range

so you're frequently popping into "overcharge" but you're off the rock really quick and it cools down fast, then you ride it all the way through optimum to get the crack

Once you get your ship in position, you can press g twice to cycle the gimble through gimble modes, so your joystick or mouse movement moves the gimble instead of the ship itself.

That lets you get the laser off the rock really fast without actually changing your position

I dunno if it's effective or not but that 2nd gimbled mode also makes it easy to spread the energy out when you're cracking the rock initially, making the crack easier to get

I'm sure I'm not the first person to do it, I just don't know that anyone told me to do it

I think per new vocabulary I have learned that I shouldn't say "rock" but "chunk"

[misty coyote]

Or just switch off the beam?

[jovial matrix]

Well then you have to bring the power back up every time you turn it back on

[tiny lake]

yeah, which loses you time in the optimum range

it took me a while to get the timing right but it makes it all go faster.

[earnest crystal]

how good is cargo rn i have never done it but i got enough for a hercules and it sounds fun

[tiny lake]

it's fun for a while

it's a bit repetitive

[jovial matrix]

"a bit" is an understatement

literally doing the same thing over and over and over

[tiny lake]

you can broadly apply that to many aspects of life

So I qualified it with a bit because you can get creative with routes, and cargos, and activities... but there's only so much

and if you want pure profit you're just running laranite back and forth and meh

but there's a nice lil ag supps -> proc food -> fluorine run I do that I cap with distilled spirits before landing that I find more entertaining

grab lots of helmets and loots between

[earnest crystal]

what would be a good ship for it my max is 10m

[sonic laurel]

I think hercs and cats are the best in game rn

[earnest crystal]

the herc c2 is a good ones ?

[tiny lake]

most cargo in the game atm

[sonic laurel]

Probably. But I'm a Drake fan. Caterpillar is just too cool

[tiny lake]

heck yeah, cat is what I got.

[sonic laurel]

I wonder what the volume difference is

[earnest crystal]

tbh on looks i like herc

btw do u happen to know where can i purchase one ?

[sonic laurel]

I think it's on the wiki

[earnest crystal]

i found it

any guides on routes and what to do it is gonna be my first time

[jovial matrix]

C2 is the best ship for cargo hauling ingame rn

caterpillar is second best (I think) and the M2 is very close to the cat

[jovial matrix]

its like 130-140SCU

[marble crow]

im new and looking to mine

[delicate girder]

In comparison to the Cat, a C2 has more cargo, more maneuverability, more speed and vehicle carrying. Compared to a Cat, the M2 had a little less cargo, but adds more firepower and more troop transport in addition to the other positive features of the C2.

Does anyone know if the M2's nose turret slaves as extra firepower for the pilot? It's been so long since I've flown it that I can't remember.

I bet not.

[jovial matrix]

I’d be surprised if it did

[misty coyote]

How do people like the Hull A?

Just pledged it along side a Vulture for post wipe.....Is it usable for daily driving in the short term?

....So less a daily driver, and more usable for other things outside of cargo...Like simple missions and such

[marble crater]

I'm not sure what you can do in a Hull A currently over a multirole ship. Cargo refactor might make it more interesting with missions

[hasty stump]

I love the Hull series so much

[valid pagoda]

hey, is there anyone mining savvy that could help me understand mining and refining?

[north oyster]

There are some pinned guides in this forum. I would recommend going out there and mining until you are comfortable with it. Stay away from quantainium until you are more skilled

Mine everything agricium and higher

The lancet laserhead is both the meta and cheap.

For refinery, use the Dinyx Solvent method (not spelled right but close)

[misty coyote]

I CCU'd up to a Freelancer pretty much straight away anyway

[pastel flame]

Yeah, the Hull A is truly a starter cargo ship, lol

[worthy scroll]

The Hull A is pretty set in its role, it isn't good for much outside of cargo. You could do boxes in it, but it isn't great for those either (awkward entry).

It's one of those ships that won't come into its own until more cargo work is done. It'll probably be a nice little ship for the cargo missions, rather than doing the trading that we currently have.

[pastel flame]

It's not really good for cargo either, but it will get you started on that loop XD

Love seeing them in game because of how rare they are.

[hardy mesa]

Hull a will get cargo containers coming up in 3.18

I still love flying mine waiting for the hull c to turn flyable

[pliant knoll]

Is there any information on how the starfair will be able to refine materials like will I be able take quantanium from mole and process it into fuel?

[lyric patrol]

Has anyone had an issue when collecting refinery jobs two or more at a time into the cargo of your ship, the second job isn't on the ship when selling at Trade Division?

[hardy mesa]

I only run one at a time in fear of that

[stable moth]

I always do the 3 orders together and never had any issues collecting them

[lyric patrol]

Hmmm this is the second or third time my ship only has one on board. using a aquila with 96sc

I'll likely do one at a time or save up ore to do one job worth a full run.

[hollow sedge]

Guys , someone know in Mole witch Laser is front Laser by the number, when you wanna just put modules on midle one ?

[mighty prawn]

Is it always windy at Aberdeen? or just on the sunny side?

[valid pagoda]

What are the best in slot modules for the prospector? For quantanium mining

[prime pine]

I use a Stampede fairly regularly

Looking for other recs besides that, myself 👌

[ivory gust]

With a Lancet, if you're mining on moons you'll want 2x Surge and 1x Stampede to be able to mine large rocks

If you're mining asteroids, you don't need any modules

[mighty prawn]

If I mining asteroids, would I only need Lancet or not even that?

[ivory gust]

Just the Lancet mining head, no modules needed for asteroids. You'll still want the Lancet over other mining heads for the instability reduction

[mighty prawn]

Ok, thanks

And wow, is this 6 Hadanite rocks?

[north oyster]

It seems to always be calm under OM-1, so it might be associated with the heat of day

[mighty prawn]

ok, thanks, this was my 2nd trip and it was windy, that's why I was wondering

[north oyster]

I always mine under OM-1 now, that moon has the blackest nights you can imagine and most vicious heat of day. Eternal twilight makes it pretty nice

[mighty prawn]

ok, would OM-2 work for the same reason? or is it more 'night' at the south pole?

[native marsh]

should be about the same, just the opposite pole

[prime pine]

Does anyone use gadgets for solo Prospector mining at all?

[north oyster]

No, the axis of the spin keeps the north to the star, so the south would always be night

[north oyster]

To me it's just a bother to get out and eva (or walk) to the rock. I mine in the Halo so I don't ever need then

I've not seen the sweet spot where it makes sense to use them. To me they are mostly a novelty

[native marsh]

@prime pine it's possible to break 8k rocks solo with a helix head, reiger c3, torrent III, and brandt while also using a boremax gadget

[mighty prawn]

Why only at Halo, is there too much traffic in Lyria? like PvPers?

[native marsh]

currently there's a significant number of dead nodes in the halo, I generally prefer lyria mining, but there's inconsistency in the size of nodes there (3k-8k) in the halo, when you do find a node, its always 5kish

and if there's piracy going on the halo can be safer

[prime pine]

Is Halo mining pretty good? Never done it

[north oyster]

The Halo is perfect. With active angle ping and ID rocks 12km away. I can make quick turns way faster in the Halo over surface side. But it's a preference, I just love being out in the void and it's peaceful with no risk

[north oyster]

There are some important tricks that you will need to know, look up red monster SC for active angle ping

[mighty prawn]

this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz8TOCUa0Ms

[north oyster]

Yes, thanks. On phone, hard to find stuff

[mighty prawn]

Just out of curiosity, how much per hour on average can we expect with Halo Quantainum mining? I heard numbers like $400k, does this sound about right?

[prime pine]

Watched all his vids for moon mining. Good stuff.

[north oyster]

I figure my income on trips and I aim to earn about 250K aUEC per trip. In two evenings I made 8 trips, earned about 2M

[ivory gust]

400k/hr average is a reasonable estimate, although remember that you'll still need to haul the refined ore to market to get paid

[prime pine]

Is finding Quant in the belt tougher? Been 30 minutes, no rocks

[sonic laurel]

I tired three times. Never found quant in the belt

[ivory gust]

Using the above posted active angle ping you can know if something is quant or not from up to 12km away. It can take a while to find something, though

[north oyster]

Like Chris said, you must use and master that technique to make the Halo worthwhile

One other trick is to remove the laser head, spawn ship, stow ship, restore laser head. I got about a 30% hit improvement

[prime pine]

Interesting!

[cerulean lichen]

Any good trade or mining stuff coming up for IAE?

[north oyster]

Loaded question because IAE is actually a sell. The new concept ship, RSI Galaxy, is trade and refinery (and much more). The BMM is hot ticket nearing completion. The MISC Expanse will be available, actually almost all ships will be available

The biggest changes will begin with 3.18

Salvage will arrive, which is like mining in many ways

I’m beginning to wonder that to adventure in Pyro will require a larger and more robust ship than what you typically need in Stanton System

[marble crater]

hopefully with Pyro persistence might be better and you can leave some ships out in the black like the Expanse + Prospector combo

[fresh flame]

I’ve been learning quantanium miming in the prospector and I’m getting my ship blown up a decent amount because I’m too close when the rocks split or sometimes explode. The wings or some other part blow off and the power won’t turn on.

I assumed the ship was done, even though I’m alive, but is there any way to repair/reboot the ship in this state or do I need to relog?

[cerulean lichen]

I guess it was a loaded question. I just have some money available for IAE and always love the more calm professions. I guess with everything available for purchase it’s hard to say what is the go to thing to get😅

[versed kettle]

Hii! Question, what is the best mining laser and modules to use for mining quantanium in a prospector?

[ivory gust]

Nope, no way to repair in the field at this time

[fresh flame]

Guess I have to suck less

Or switch up my modules

[cerulean lichen]

I need to catch of the refactor stuff but for loading cargo does it snap into place when carried into a ship or is it just haphazardly going to be stacked in a ship? I have yet to watch the video and can’t right now, but I can at least text here for now

[jovial matrix]

I believe they said it was supposed to snap into the cargo grid yeah

[misty coyote]

Anything on a ship's grid will be available to sell at kiosks. Any cargo taken from a ship, or given, will have to be sold at "No Questions" kiosks

Too

Does it look like the Vulture could carry a ROC?

From eye and guess work

[jovial matrix]

I highly doubt it

[misty coyote]

I'd say it's about as big as the back plate of a Nomad.....

It would be very handy if it did... I might just have a word with CIG.

[hearty schooner]

Pretty sure that’s big enough for a nice ROC, it definitely looks bigger than a titan avenger, and I’ve heard a ROC can fit in those

[cerulean lichen]

Ok happy about the snapping to grid. I’m looking forward to loading by hand since I normally sell quant in batches of 50.