industrial-professions

[north oyster]

RUMOR IS - Refinery jobs did persist and are there after the patch

[jovial matrix]

So I assume you can put things in the ROC’s external cargo hold that aren’t gems, is that correct?

Also can you use the extraction mode to put things in the cargo hold that aren’t gems

[ivory gust]

I've never tried either

[jovial matrix]

Interesting, might have to experiment myself tonight then

[misty coyote]

Oh damn..... I'll post up in later to confirm....

[north oyster]

Thanks, I got word from one player that they were safe

I won't be home until late today

[cobalt rivet]

anyone else seeing like duped ships in their fleet manager?

time for a character reset I guess

[misty coyote]

There was a wipe then?

[cerulean lichen]

Been a few weeks since I played but remembered, think I’ll do some mining tonight if everything is stable

How’s mining been going last few weeks anyways? I heard there has been a uptick of people just randomly going after players, but has that affected any mining spots or station refineries?

[ivory gust]

Refinery jobs are safe with 3.17.3, including in-progress ones

[ivory gust]

ARC-L1 is a popular place for murderhobos, as is lyria

[ornate spoke]

hi everyone, i just bought the mole and cati was wondering what modules i should get and how to start my mining adventures?!

[ivory gust]

Youtube for mining tutorials

[ornate spoke]

oh alright

[timber terrace]

I want to mine with somebody, looking for moneymaking buddys lol

[ornate spoke]

id fly with you, but ill be a bit nooby on the mining bit

[timber terrace]

same

wanna learn together?

I know a bit

@ornate spoke ?

[cerulean lichen]

Recently or as always? Because I work out of those 2 locations and haven’t noticed anything it that was a month ago before the last free fly event.

[ivory gust]

Recently more so than previously

The "pvpers" are getting bored and when that happens they go have fun by ruining someone else's day. Another popular one I've seen lately is for them to "lock down" Everus Harbor and blow up anyone coming or going

[cobalt rivet]

Thats how it be tho

Come cargo refactor the prey-type players will have less reasons to blame the pvpers cause they can blow you up then steal your cargo

Rather than just extorting you

[ivory gust]

No, we can still blame them for being sociopaths, and blame the game for not having mechanics in place to discourage that

[sleek torrent]

This happened last weekend. Like 8 criminals holding it down. But it was fun. I just used it as an opportunity to have some in game arena commander. I wish there was more of this. More players on a server will result in more of this. But also would like to see security jumping to the station to engage. And not just fighters. They should have a fleet jump into the area to deal with them. That would be awesome

And have it to where the only way to stop the fleet from arriving prior to this is to take down a comm sat

[ivory gust]

No, this is not fun, it's stupid. It should not be possible for a small handful of people to "take over" one of the major stations in the system without repercussions

Stations need to have sufficiently strong defenses that they can stop that kind of crap

[sleek torrent]

I didn’t say there should not be repercussions

Essential what I said

[ivory gust]

Right now people doing that are just taking advantage of missing features and bugs to ruin the experience for other people

[sleek torrent]

The station should fire on them, and if they are able to hang around and defend themselves, a fleet should show up

But it shouldn’t be impossible, just illegal

[ivory gust]

Given that Stanton is the only system right now, and will continue to be the "safest" system for the near future, it should be impossible.

[sleek torrent]

And your entitled to your opinion, as am I

[ivory gust]

Yes, and my opinion is that it's far too easy to be a criminal right now, and that should be fixed (and not just in the long term "a decade from now it will be fine")

[cerulean lichen]

Great… left elite dangerous open servers because of people like that. I hope they find someway to combat it like AI police coming to a fight if it happens.

[worthy scroll]

It's not so much that it's too easy to be a criminal, it's that there's no real point in being one, and no real downside to it.

[rich root]

Hey, i want to Rent a prospector and wondered where to mine quantanium . I heard about something aarons halo.
Where is that and is it really a good place for that ?

[ivory gust]

Rental prospector cannot easily mine quantanium since you cannot switch the mining head

[rich root]

I did i with small rocks on Surface but it was a pain and i thought the rocks in space are smaller

[ivory gust]

Max size of rocks in space is smaller yes, but it's not the size that's the problem it's the instability. You need either a second person lasering the rock with a Lancet to reduce the instability, or you need to use the Sabir mining gadget on every chunk you want to break

[cerulean lichen]

If lyria is just a risky place no mine now I may just move back to microtech then

That or I just stop really getting to invested and not care if I get jumped.

[ivory gust]

According to the 'pvpers' you should feel lucky when you get jumped since dying in pvp is the most fun you can have

[cerulean lichen]

The solution is to just log out when they start the charades. It drives them nuts, plus it’s less frustrating. Downsides are ship reclaim times and loosing whatever you had on board, though it was going to be lost anyways if you try to fight it out.

[jovial matrix]

Ah yes of course

[fallen atlas]

Just don't die.

[jovial matrix]

oh the joy of mining a rock on a hill

I got excited, but its stinky aphorite :(

[marble crater]

Zyloh from CIG covered this topic & they ultimately want players to rally together through Orgs & fight back rather than relying on in game systems. Basically the Rust system

Org up or die

[ivory gust]

Then the game will die, or end up like EVE and just putter along with (relatively) low player numbers forever

[marble crater]

Rust follows the same and has good player numbers

[ivory gust]

Isn't rust not an MMO?

How big of an org would I need to be part of in order to get a dozen people on in one part of the game world on short notice?

Yeah, Rust isn't a single-server MMO, not a valid comparison

[marble crater]

SC isn't a single server either

also not an mmo

100 players lol

[ivory gust]

SC is intended to be a single server mmo

Making comparisons now is somewhat irrelevant because yes, you can just go switch servers to dodge "pvpers"

That won't be possible in the future, when "org up or die" is relevant

[marble crater]

Into the future they want to push the Org side even more as it expands as it will create in game Factions similar to Elite with Imperials/Feds etc

& they have stated
We're not here to protect players from aggressors, pirates, and PVPers. A big part of Star Citizen is about that dichotomy. That epic clash that occurs when opposing forces meet and rally others to their cause. The wars at Jump Town were a prime example of the exciting emergent gameplay that can blossom when a lawful player comes face to face with an outlaw

[jovial matrix]

another good ROC haul

[marble crater]

you been having some good runs!

[jovial matrix]

Indeed I have

Started out pretty rough, lots of time in-between small patches of hadanite, and then I got a patch of like 8 or 9 rocks. Would’ve taken me from half full to full, but I had to get off so I settled for a little less than full

Also the server seemed to be dying, so I finished quick lol

[marble crater]

All they need to add is Move All button in your inventory and you can bulk transfer from the ROC to your ship/backpack

[jovial matrix]

Yes that would be great

[misty coyote]

Soon TM

[sleek torrent]

Dang. Found a huge quant rock but can’t mine it.

[misty coyote]

They have released the Drake Vulture to pledge, which I'm all over....As it's in concept, you get a Prospector and a Buccy as Loaners...Aces...

I just bought a Prospector in game....Doi!

[marble crater]

Congrats! Vulture should be alot of fun. Guess you'll have a Prossy & Bucc for the 3.18 wipe too

[misty coyote]

I think the Prospector is a loaner because the Vulture isn't released, as soon as it is, it will just be the Buccy as the "Fighter" option they give out for AC#

I dislike Drake Ships as a rule, but this one has more of an Argo feel to it, so I'll let it off

[marble crater]

Yeah with a bit of luck you might get to keep using the Prossy too haha. The Bucc is alot of fun if you're into combat

[misty coyote]

I like to flight a bit...

I've seen loads of people complain that this "PVP" game is filled with people only wanting to do PVE content or solo stuff...But mining is fun! Hauling is fun! And I hope Salvage is too...

[cerulean lichen]

Side affect from it becoming a more mainstream game. Hopefully when more systems are added and things like reputation is implemented, there will be less pvp people going after pve people.

[misty coyote]

I mean...It's part of the game isnt' it?

Othewise, why put guns on a Catapiller

Pirates gonna pirate...It might be annoying when you lose, but when you fend off a PVP pirate attack with your buddies and make some fat bank...That's what these games stories are about

[cerulean lichen]

I know. But I’m hoping it either pushes people to be actual pirates stealing cargo or ransom stuff rather than just killing people constantly for the LoLs. Ehh we shall see though

So salvage going to a worth while profession? It seems like mining but mining ships instead of rocks. Still looks fun though.

[worthy scroll]

Probably. But it'll probably be "eh" at first because we're only getting an extremely basic version of it to start with.

[cerulean lichen]

Hmm I want to buy the vulture so that’s why I’m debating if salvage is worth it compared to mining since I already have mining pledge ships. I wonder how wrecks will be found if it’s just randomly spawning at certain locations, only set locations, or something else

[misty coyote]

They have said you can salvage ships that have been destroyed..... If the Vulture has any weapons at all, I'll be flying VLRTs or following some buddies around.

At least I seem to remember them saying it

It would mean having ships not disappear when the explode...But I can't see this being done otherwise.

[marble crater]

going to be weird seeing persistent ship wrecks

rings of yela will be so thick with all the debris from vhrt/ert spam

[misty coyote]

I'm sure we'll get more info after this weekend

[plush maple]

Man they are gonna need to schedule server restarts or something- all those wrecks are gonna be taxing

[misty coyote]

I think they'll have a shelf life...

SOmething about PES or something...

[neat crane]

Someone told me a prospector could make 200k/20min, is that true?

[ivory gust]

With decent luck, sure... Although you don't get paid out directly, you need to wait for the ore to refine and then haul it to a city to sell

[north oyster]

You can make up to 275K aUEC per trip. That trip time is both subject up luck and skill. I'm pretty sure I could make more turns than a greenie, so I'd make way more than them

[prisma scarab]

I prefer mole. Up to 900k a run haha

[north oyster]

I can normally make more runs than someone running a MOLE solo can

But I don't stand a chance against a team in a mole

[prisma scarab]

Each to their own with it. I can go out find rocks In a short time no different to an prospect and come back with 70scu it’s all luck 🙂

Do wonder what the new “benefits”’of mole will be as they discussed

[north oyster]

I missed that thread

[neat crane]

maybe I should try to join an org to do some team mining then

could be fun if i manage to find one

[prisma scarab]

I solo mole mine 😛 I’m nonteam player

[north oyster]

Cross and his crew LOST does some monster volume mining, bringing in over 20 million aUEC of ore in one nite

Because mining in the Prospector is designed around solo, there are no wasted moves. Yes MOLE has 3x the volume, but when I'm making turns with the Prospector, I never hear the Quantainium volatile alarm go off. I'm able to scoop, deliver and return way faster

[ivory gust]

Depends on what you're finding. If you're often finding single rocks or clusters that barely fill a Prospector, then a MOLE won't benefit. If you find clusters or rocks that fill a MOLE, then there's definitely a benefit

[north oyster]

I concur, but at the same time there is the factor of "time" and how that plays into how many turns you can make with a ship. There is the hard set of total time of cargo, regardless of how the MOLE can hold (but good planning can ensure that is not a big issue). For me, I just don't want to work that hard in mining. For now you find rock, crack rock, vacuum rock, refine ore, rinse and repeat

[fiery cosmos]

@north oyster Who is this “Cross” you speak of? Sounds like they participate in gameplay I’d be interested in.

[cerulean lichen]

Yep that’s the cycle. I do that in my prospector across lyria and makes good money.

[north oyster]

@thin escarp is the team leader that runs a mining org. I've tagged him @fiery cosmos so you can connect with him if interested

[fiery cosmos]

@thin escarp if you see this, I am interested. Thanks @north oyster

[cerulean lichen]

Being part of an org would be neat, I just wish I had the free time with work to do so😅

[north oyster]

Likewise, that's my story too. So random when I get to play

[jovial matrix]

Has it been said how much RMC a multitool with salvage attachment can carry?

[thin escarp]

@fiery cosmos

[cerulean lichen]

Done early today! Time to go home and mine and hopefully not get attacked on lyria.

[fallen atlas]

Me camping Lyria waiting for miners to fly down.

[lunar sonnet]

how does this work?

how do I go buy and sell stuff

[fallen atlas]

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[lunar sonnet]

danke mi ami

[fallen atlas]

No problem! If you have questions after reading that, let us know.

[jovial matrix]

I’m assuming you can’t swap out the mining head on either of the ROC’s, correct?

[thin escarp]

@jovial matrix you cannot

[jovial matrix]

Mk cool

[ivory gust]

Technically I think you can put the mining head from a ROC on a ROC-DS...

[jovial matrix]

That wouldn’t offer any advantage though would it?

[ivory gust]

I don't think so, no.

[jovial matrix]

Ok 👍

[sleek torrent]

When mining, I’m picking up lots of quant, watching the percentage of each mineral and ore, after I’m finished collection to move on the the next broken rock, everything turns to inert….

Then I get to the hanger with no yellow warning light at all. And immediately it starts flashing red

Go to refine and I only have inert

[ivory gust]

You're hitting two different bugs.
Bug #1: quant displays as inert while mining. This is just a display issue, and when you go to the refinery it will be fine.
Bug #2: You're landing in the hangar, which sometimes results in the stuff going critical and exploding or turning inert (for real). Stop landing in a hangar, just get impounded

[sleek torrent]

Oh okay. I’ll try to do that. Just call for landing and hover in the hanger?

[ivory gust]

don't call for landing and hover in front of a hangar door

[sleek torrent]

Ahh okay

Thanks

[ivory gust]

if you don't see the impounding message within ~30seconds, go try a different hangar, not all of them will do it

[sleek torrent]

Okay

[sleek torrent]

Yep, that impound trick worked

Too back I lost about 10k scu of quant before. But I want anyone

[ivory gust]

10k SCU? That's like... 312 Prospector trips at least

I admire your dedication to keep doing it that much

[sleek torrent]

Maybe it was just 10k of unrefined quant?

I just know it was 10k

And I know 1000 is around 100k credits. So I know it was a lot

But i don’t use the prospector. I use the mole

When I refine 1000 quant, I usually get about 100k

[ivory gust]

100 units in refinery = 1 SCU

Mole carries 96 SCU or 9600 units

[cerulean lichen]

Had a nice surprise on lyria. Stumbled across a group of premined rocks. Was able to fill my prospector with 2200 quant so more than half of the cargo space.

[sleek torrent]

Okay, so I lost 1 mil in quant. Happy now?

[ivory gust]

Sorry for your loss. That stupid landing bug has claimed so many miners this patch

[cerulean lichen]

So lyria and arc L1 have been safe for me so far. Closest I think I have come was a signal 50km away that started approaching me rapidly and was airborne. I jumped to another location before I was able to detect what it was but safe to say it was another player.

[mystic fossil]

I got a prospector

What are the best head for starting mining plus modules?

[cerulean lichen]

Lancet is the go to mining head. As for modules, I’m not 100% but someone can probably answer that

[pearl hedge]

hi what type of rock is quantainium?

in astroids

[misty coyote]

Q

[pearl hedge]

hi for some reason every rock i go to the scanner for my miner isnt showing anything and it has been like that for a while as i have been searching for 30 mins and every rock just says nothing does anyone know how to fix this?

[prisma scarab]

Log out and server hop

[plush maple]

I'm having no rocks scannable too

I've tried 4 servers- same thing on all

Anyone else experiencing this?

[pearl hedge]

Yes

I had that

Log off in ur ship quit the game and quit the launcher

[misty coyote]

Do this before every mining trip.

Store ship
Remove mining head
Retrieve ship
Store ship
Attach mining head
Retrieve ship

If you find rocks you can't scan, pause 1 to 1.5k km away from the cluster. Get our of your ship and EVA about 90m away, or until you see "Left Prosp"
Get back in, this has been known to fix.

[cerulean lichen]

So the new flight stuff has me a bit worried about mining and trading. Seems like it maybe really challenging to escape from being jumped when mining or flying cargo.

[fallen atlas]

That's the goal

[cerulean lichen]

How we feeling about c1 spirit?

[ivory gust]

Seems cutlass competitor, might be good for ROC mining.

[ivory gust]

You can tell if something is unscannable from 12km away and shouldn't be going to it.

https://youtu.be/vz8TOCUa0Ms

[cerulean lichen]

I’m going to upgrade my cutlass pledge to a c1 pledge. It maybe a long time before it’s in the game but luckily the rental is still the cutlass so nothing changes. Hopefully the finished ship will be able to fit the roc

[north oyster]

Ok, be sure to vote in the next mining ship!!

[cerulean lichen]

I did. I went Argo. Not enough Argo ships in the works if you ask me

[misty coyote]

Vote?

[north oyster]

Yes, the ship that will fill the role between the MOLE and the Orion

Vote on the three manufacturers

RSI, Argo and MISC

[misty coyote]

Where is the vote happening?

[north oyster]

On the RSI page, open for about a week

[misty coyote]

Thank you

[north oyster]

Love the new Crusader ship

Spirit

[cerulean lichen]

Same here. Upgraded my cutlass to it after reading a roc should fit in it. It just sounds like a better version of a cutlass and it’s only 10 dollar upgrade. More storage as well. Man I hope it doesn’t take 4 years to be implemented

[slim spindle]

if you would be a newbie at cargo, which ship you would say me to use for first steps?? thx a lot and greets :)

(want to buy in game)

(bugdet 2-3 million auac)

[north oyster]

Cargo is going to go through a huge change in the next year

[slim spindle]

okay, great :)

[north oyster]

It only favors the largest ships right now

[cerulean lichen]

For now freelancer max is probably best bang for the buck trading ships at your price range

[jovial matrix]

You could save a little bit more and go to a constellation Taurus

[north oyster]

Really need a CAT or C2

[slim spindle]

oh a cat would be great, but there i have to hustle a bit more :D - freelancer max, c2 and taurus i will check out :) thx a lot! 🖖

[jovial matrix]

Keep in mind the C2 is more expensive than the cat

[slim spindle]

oh, so more far away.. :D thx

[jovial matrix]

👍

[cerulean lichen]

So with pyro, look like a cool place to mine. Though an expanse for mobile refinery will probably be needed as I don’t think there will be any refinery places there

[supple cave]

Hey guys, I've been looking round but only see threads from months/years ago.

Is there a way to send refined ore from mining to a friend's cargo ship or do you have to have your own cargo ship?

[ivory gust]

only a little more expensive, but it's absolutely worth it since it carries a lot more

[fallen atlas]

120 SCU is nothing to scoff at for sure.

[north oyster]

You have to have your own cargo ship at this time

[cerulean lichen]

Wonder how well the C1 will do for trading early on. Have to wait to see though, probably need more expensive and rare commodities and more info on the ship

[fallen atlas]

48 SCU is hardly enough to make much doing trading.

At least at current margins for trading. Who know how that'll be by the time the ships are ready and cargo refactor are in.

[cerulean lichen]

Yah rare exotic commodities could make it worth it. Like the neat for armored transport. So a ship version of an armored truck. Those don’t exist in game right now but maybe one day

[viscid hazel]

The C1 sure does look nice.

[cerulean lichen]

So also that new speed change may be problematic. There is going to be very little chance to escape a pvp player attacking someone doing mining or trading with the changes. I don’t like how it sounds but maybe more info is needed

[viscid hazel]

I wonder what kind of crew quarters it will have.

[ivory gust]

I think that's the point.

[misty coyote]

There is a warm up time for QT more.... Then you can book.....

[cerulean lichen]

But shields have to be down to do it. So slow ship plus no shields against any combat ship. I hope they do physical ship armor or it’s going to be a slaughter

[misty coyote]

They'll need to... Its got to be balanced right.... Full sheild means you just leave without issue... No Shields means you might blow up...

[ivory gust]

Flip side, once you've pulled range, the other guy won't be able to shoot you since they'll also need to be in gofast mode to keep up, and can't shoot

[cerulean lichen]

Yah it could work but we need to hear more about what they plan because all I’m imagining is pvp players attacking mining and trading players that can’t run and if they do, get ripped apart without shields.

[misty coyote]

And when you do drop.... You can spool up and real QT somewhere...

If they do this right

[fallen atlas]

They also want you to have to group up, crew your ships with gunners, hire escort orgs, etc.

The game will not be as solo "friendly" as it is right now.

[cerulean lichen]

They need to get reputation working as well then. Because if I’m hiring an escort last thing I want is for that escort to show up and kill me like people do now with sending out fake medical beacons.

I know how crappy people in online games can be so maybe I’m looking at it from a worst case scenario

[misty coyote]

If they get better AI... Maybe those AI escorts will give you some time to escape.

[cerulean lichen]

At least this is not anything coming to the game recent so there is time for stuff to change and more info to be presented. Anyways, good citizen con overall I think

[viscid hazel]

yeah it was nice.

[mystic fossil]

Freelance Max

[fair magnet]

Looking for a mining org asap!

[fallen atlas]

!orgs

[wary tusk]

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[humble iris]

can you mine laranite on daymar?

[rancid compass]

Soooo should I be concerned about a 17k% surcharge? haha

[mystic fossil]

Where I can mine bexa?

[neat crane]

what mass and optimal do i want to aim for with quantanium mining

[mystic fossil]

Mass isn't important, the percentage does.

[fiery cosmos]

Sure

[fiery cosmos]

An 8k mass rock at 20% and a 5k rock at 20% can be a difference of 100k. So mass can be important.

[sonic laurel]

Noot too mention mass impacts what kind of ship you need

big mass and prospy might not cut it

[fervent olive]

Anyone has a Freelancer ?

[zenith maple]

I had one, why?

[fervent olive]

Is it worth it ?

Also which variation is best

[zenith maple]

well, that really depends on your intended use and what you are after in looks and utility

[fervent olive]

Looking for a bit of cargo.. if I get med good, but not necessary

So confused

[zenith maple]

exploration isnt really a thing yet, so really only useful to get the trucker version that has a good chunk of storage

[fervent olive]

also this max version

Makes me even more confused

[zenith maple]

in what way?

[fervent olive]

Max looks like its only for cargo

There is a med verison which has small cargo space but med bay too

1 normal base version all in 1

I have a 3 player crew

we do bounty and mining

Want to pick a ship which kinda solves best purposes

Max is good, cause I can fit in 2 ROC

I come from Cutlass Black

now please suggest

[zenith maple]

yeah, at that pricepoint you wont really get more space

in anything else

how well it will do in bounty I cant really say much about. not my kind of thing

but for a small ship to transport vehicles and cargo, the max is a lot for its cost

[rugged axle]

@fervent olive for a 3 person crew. Save up and buy a Connie. Pilot guns, 2 turrets, 96scu of cargo, and space for any ground vehicle(minus tonk and ballista). Plus a snub on back if someone wants to fly it.

Will handle any pve bounty, decent cargo space, and can actually be crewed effectively by up to 5 people if wanted.

[fervent olive]

Thanks

[neat crane]

is 1.5mil enough for a good traiding ship and then 500k to trade with?

[rugged axle]

Alternatively, you could run a starrunner. With a max crew of 3.

@neat crane trades in a pretty bad spot right now. And only favors c2 and cat.

You can do it with a smaller ship, but each run will yield very little profit.

[neat crane]

should i save up fro cat?

[rugged axle]

Personally I would if I was wanting to do trading...you'll basically be able to make ~150k per run.

[north oyster]

That’s not a blend in ships unless you get a Carrack

[ivory gust]

Uh... No? Percentage and mass both matter since they both affect how much SCU of Quantanium you get. A 40% 2k mass rock is worth less than a 20% 6k mass rock.

[fallen atlas]

Not to mention if you hit a smaller rock then have to find others your clock is ticking

[neat crane]

How do I use the sruge?

[north oyster]

Very carefully and at the very start of a break

[neat crane]

Okay thanks, also is this a good way of finding Q? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFB_Tt6Ks0A&t=246s

[ivory gust]

Yes, but that particular method (looking for clusters) only works on lyria

[north oyster]

Hawkes does good, I also like Red Monster SC as a good tutorial guide source

[sleek torrent]

Anyone know the correct QT drop out time for ARC L4 to Arron halo?

[ivory gust]

Bookmark this https://cstone.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes

Also why ARC L4? It's not a refinery, I don't think?

[ivory gust]

TIL

Probably has a -20% modifier to refining Quant tho

All the stations added in 3.17. 2 do afaik

[north oyster]

If you're going to mine the Halo, I'd highly recommend CRU-L1. Then jump 11.5M towards ARC-L3. You get a 3% Quan bonus there also

[sleek torrent]

MIC-L1 Is 2%. And closer to where I want to operate. I’ve decided to stick around MT. But thanks.

[rich root]

Is the aarons halo the best Spot for mining ?

[neat crane]

Is SC-Trade-Tools the best place to find trade routes?

[fallen atlas]

https://uexcorp.space/ is also really good

[neat crane]

appericate it, thanks! :D

[hollow lantern]

I read new rover has spots for two hand boxes can anyone explain where they are on the vehicle

[north oyster]

Lyria as for planet mining is really good. Halo is massive and a good place to mine but it comes with some issues that a miner must take into account in order to make good income from the Halo.

1. Active angle ping - you're wasting your time if you don't know how to use this
2. Laser head remove, replace - decreases dud scans considerably
3. EVA trick to turn dud scans into scannable ore
4. Hanger bug that explodes ship
   Several others that I've maybe overlooked

[pliant matrix]

is it confirmed Spirit C1 will be able to get a ROC?

From the arts on RSI page it seems tight

[lapis pine]

it can for an ursa

so yea it should be able to fit a roc

[pliant matrix]

if they respect those it'll be very tight imo

[lapis pine]

itll probably get bigger in development

lol

[pliant matrix]

I wish they add passengers transport too. Like just piloting going point A to B. Gather deliver. E1 is looking so great

[jovial matrix]

No shot a C1 can carry an ursa

[zenith maple]

isnt the MSR pretty much just big enough for a ursa?

the C1 would need to grow a big booty for that

[pliant matrix]

Ursa is a bit bigger than a roc. and msr can take 2 roc easy

ursa is 8.75x6x3.5 and roc 3.9x6x3.5

[zenith maple]

yeah

[jovial matrix]

Yeah you can fit an ursa in an MSR

[pliant matrix]

cyclone is 8.75x6x3.5 so if C1 can take this it'll take a roc easy

art prolly show it a little smaller than it should be

[jovial matrix]

I assume a C1 can carry at least one cyclone, since the freelancer and cutty black can

[pliant matrix]

actually no. the cargo bay is thin but long so maybe two would fit

C1 might be a bigger target than cutlass with those wings tho

[jovial matrix]

Their dimensions are very similar afaik

[frigid yacht]

For about two months I've not found any quant rocks that can be scanned over 4500 mass with more than 30% quant. Until yesterday. All rocks seemed scannable. Then I found this big boy:

Mass: 6609
Instability: 7.76
Resistance: 0.72
Quant: 48.24%
Quarts: 49.95%
Inert: 1.79%

Which is worth around 280k auec in quant alone.

Typically the 1st serge will bring the level near the green. I lower the power to match the gap the 1st serge went to then fire the 2nd to bring me into the green. Maintain 100% power until it pops. That didn't happen this time.

I fired up my lancet 2 on my mole (2 surges & Torrent II). Increased power to 100%, fired a surge. Then the charge level shot to almost top of the overcharge. As a result, it practically evaporated.

Not sure why. Do any of you understand? Was it my torrent II? Or a Star Citizen "feature?"

[cobalt rivet]

Why are you using torrent instead of optimum or stampede

You dont need torrent if youre running surge, plus it increases instability

Also its good to test how far your laser can go before using the module, like fire the laser at full power and see what it does first before using the modules

[marble crater]

Not sure how but it looks like you fired both Surge modules at the same time

[ornate ocean]

so when salvaging is added is this where we would talk about it?

[cobalt rivet]

Probably

[jovial matrix]

Probably

[cobalt rivet]

Jinx

[jovial matrix]

Fuck

I wasn’t fast enough

[cobalt rivet]

[ornate ocean]

I am looking forward to it. I dont reallly like quant mining

[worthy scroll]

I like it slow anyway.

[ornate ocean]

I am fine with roc minning

[jovial matrix]

Love me some good ROC mining

[ornate ocean]

I am sort of not palying SC until wipe. more or less decided what I wanted to do

going to level my gladius and andromeda then either save for vulture or save for c2 first

andromeda so nice for hauling and mining

[jovial matrix]

Andromeda is good in general

[ornate ocean]

it can pretty much do anything but salvaging

[jovial matrix]

Yeah

And ship mining

Anything that doesn’t require a specialized ship

[ornate ocean]

ya I trieed the prospector quant mining is so frustrating

bothing the mining and finding the rocks

[jovial matrix]

I haven’t tried it but it doesn’t sound like something I’d enjoy yeah

[ornate ocean]

its a pain in the ass to find rocks worth minning in the first place and the actuall process of cracking its a bit stresfful

[jovial matrix]

I just wanna chill when I mine and not have to worry about having my cargo explode or managing modules, even if it’s not that hard in reality

[jovial matrix]

Yeah

[ornate ocean]

roc mining is a lot more relaxing and can be decently profitable

same with hauling

[jovial matrix]

It’s a good balance

[ornate ocean]

also found hauling austine is really profitable

[worthy scroll]

Mining is pretty low stress if you ignore quant. You don't have to go for the big payday item. Just mine for fun.

[ornate ocean]

was makeing 100k profit

[jovial matrix]

Yeah ik, but I’d rather just ROC/hand mine

[ornate ocean]

also space mining is really expensive to get into

at least 2 mill to get the smallest space miner

[jovial matrix]

It’s 2.1mil for a prospector, which isn’t that bad

You can also rent one, assuming you’re fine mining anything but quant

[ornate ocean]

ya but for somone who doesnt have a connie and jsut starting with say an aurora that is a bit of a tall order

[jovial matrix]

Yeah, for a new player it’s steep

[ornate ocean]

I just wish box missions werent so broken

it would of been the perfect starter missions that is low risk for newbies

[worthy scroll]

I do them all the time, they're generally working these days.

[ornate ocean]

maybe one of the hot fixers fixed

I havent really done too many

[worthy scroll]

They really suck in an Aurora though, since they switched them to three boxes per mission.

[ornate ocean]

the one I Tried recently did some and they worked while going for the masks

not all of them are 3

depeneds which ones you are going for

[worthy scroll]

Box missions have been my relaxing gameplay for years. For a good while they were broken to heck and back, but right now they seem to mostly work fine.

[jovial matrix]

I don’t like box missions, subpar payout for the time it takes

[ornate ocean]

ya I hear that

I thik they are ok for new palyers to get enough to upgrade armor and weapons

[jovial matrix]

Yeah

[ornate ocean]

at least do profitable combat

I wish the game allowed new players more options than combat to get money

[jovial matrix]

I’d rather just take a new player and show them how to do a bunker first though, cause you get free armor+guns and like double the payout of starting box missions

[worthy scroll]

Box missions and hand mining, those are supposed to be the basic of basic intro gameplay.

[ornate ocean]

becaus it seems for newer players they have to do combat to make any real money so they can either get ship upgrades or get new ships for peaceful ways to make moeny

both mining and hauling require investment

new players dont realyl start with much

[jovial matrix]

ROC mining requires very little investment

[ornate ocean]

it is for a new player

[worthy scroll]

The other option is get over the idea of money grinding and play just to enjoy the experience. That's what I've moved on to. I don't give two toots about money grinding anymore.

[jovial matrix]

It’s like 30k to rent an ROC+cutty black, and you just need your undersuit and helmet to mine on Daymar

For a potential of 200k+ per full load

[ornate ocean]

I just want to give players more options to try different things

[worthy scroll]

Remember that we're a long way off from having a real new player experience.

[ornate ocean]

cause combat can get boring after a whjile

especialyl with how bad the ai is

and right now there isnt much reason to be a pirate besides trolling and pvp expeirence

granteds with salvaging that might help

[worthy scroll]

Branch out, do some of the other types of missions like investigation and such. Some of those are really fun and don't require any specific type of ship.

[misty coyote]

This is where I'm aiming too..... That itch for the next ship never seems to go though...

[worthy scroll]

Ha. Yeah, the desire for new and shiny will be around for a while, until you've been around long enough and have experienced enough.

[worthy wedge]

havent played in a while. whats best moon for quant mining and the closest refinery to that?

[ivory gust]

Lyria, ARC-L1

[worthy wedge]

ty ty

[ivory gust]

You'll want to watch a video that explains the way scanning works now

https://youtu.be/TfB-8a65hrA

[worthy wedge]

ive done mining before, unless something changed

[ivory gust]

Scanning changed relatively recently, so it depends on when you last did it. You want to use active ping angle tuning to see the details of ping contacts from a distance--on Lyria you're looking for clusters of 2+ rocks, since clusters are always Quant.

You can do the same thing (in mining mode) in the Aaron Halo to see the asteroid type from up to 12km away

[worthy wedge]

always quant??

[ivory gust]

Yes, on Lyria only, any cluster of 2 or more rocks is guaranteed to be quantanium, at least for now. It makes finding Quant a lot faster than having to check every ping result

[sonic laurel]

you can earn the money to rent a prospy in an hour just scanning some dead bodies in space or ground wrecks

requires not even a gun

[ivory gust]

Assuming the mission works, investigation missions are often bugged

[sonic laurel]

I have yet to encounter an issue but that is always possible

[ivory gust]

In any case, if the goal is to make money, renting a Prospector is a bad idea and it would be better to rent a cutlass+ROC

[sonic laurel]

did they ever make the rear hatch of the prospector lockable? Or can anyone just walk up and pinch gems still?

[cobalt rivet]

I tried out voice attack, the stone transfer rate is insane

[ivory gust]

I assume you mean ROC? I don't think it's lockable

[sonic laurel]

yeah

still pirate target #1 then

[jovial matrix]

Yeah you can just take stuff out if you want

[ivory gust]

Yeah, I've seen some people who have it going stupid fast, but for me it needs to have pretty hefty delays added and can only do a handful a second. Without the delays on my machine it frequently fails to transfer things, or randomly equips stuff instead of transferring

[north oyster]

Most experienced ROC miners never operate near QT points like outpost or stations.

[jovial matrix]

Out in the middle of nowhere on a moon is best

[north oyster]

I guess they could find me if they dive down to the surface from OM-1, but they’ll have to work hard for little return

I have had NPCs spawn near me in the middle of nowhere

[jovial matrix]

I drop out of QT as I warp between two points on a moon, so it’s always random where I end up

[north oyster]

It’s always daylight under OM-1

[shy roost]

Any mining groups? I have a nomad pack

[frigid yacht]

yup! both went off at same time. my fat finger hit both 1 & 2 at same time.

[narrow sundial]

Hey guys, is the astroid belt gone? It's been quite some time since I've played

[desert echo]

Hey everyone is cargo worth doing or should we wait for cargo refactor? I only have basic cargo hauling knowledge (buy and go sell)

[fallen atlas]

They're just a bit different now, at different points from the station now. Zoom in on your map to get a better idea.

[fallen atlas]

High risk for an okay reward. Only really worthwhile in big heavies like a caterpillar or a C2 in my opinion.

[fallen atlas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMsDDP6ns_A
sorry for double ping, but here's what many recommend now

[desert echo]

Ah okay I was planning on doing it with my MSR

[fallen atlas]

You CAN do it in the MSR, but unless you're just doing it for fun, don't expect much. It's just not as worth your time compared to other avenues of money making

Expect at best probably about a 25% profit margin.

So for every 100k you invest, at most you're making 25k

Whereas a full mining run will net you 200k+ or HRT bounties you can make about 250-500k/hr if you're decent.

[desert echo]

Yea it’s mostly for fun I only did cargo hauling I believe once or twice in my SC career. Most of my income comes from bounty/mercenary missions. Do you think ROC mining is worth it? I’m not sure if you’re referring to prospector or ROC mining for the 200k that you mentioned

[ivory gust]

ROC mining will be 100-200k/hr depending on luck at finding deposits

[fallen atlas]

One full ROC is also upwards of 200k, so it can be.

And yeah, it's all luck.

[ivory gust]

Plus overhead time for loading the ROC and selling stuff

[desert echo]

Where do you guys would say is the best spot to mine and sell?

[ivory gust]

ROC or Prospector?

[desert echo]

ROC

[jovial matrix]

mine on aberdeen, daymar, or magda, and sell at any ground outpost/station/city

[ivory gust]

aberdeen, arial, daymar, or magda

[cerulean lichen]

So wonder when we will see the concept idea from the mining ship vote. I know voting goes to the 17th so maybe something by February?

[narrow sundial]

Thanks @fallen atlas

[north oyster]

A great Google Doc that Red Monster SC has put together for miners to track their work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKU86-5YCY4

[north oyster]

Be sure to move your ROC inventory to the ship's inventory or your backpack. At this time the ROC has zero protection from game hiccups like 30K

[desert echo]

How does the 30k protection work?

^ Thanks for the tip!

[jovial matrix]

whenever the server 30K's, its supposed to safely store your ship and everything on it afaik. However, the ROC doesnt get 30K protection, so if the server 30K's and you've got an ROC with gems in it, everything in the ROC goes poof

[desert echo]

Ah okay I didn't know SC had that 30k protection feature that eases my mind a lot more for doing mining haha, Thank very much for the helpful tips!

[worthy scroll]

You have to wait 10-15m though, it isn't an immediate thing.

[rain mauve]

If my quant yield is like 154, how much can I make from selling it?

Also did the price drop cos uex says its 88 now

[ivory gust]

88 per unit, 8800 per SCU

[north oyster]

The quantainium pricing stays stable. So you'll always get 88/unit. As an example, one run for me gave me a refinery job yield of 3130. So at 88x3130, that single trip earned 275,440 aUEC

[burnt storm]

is there any good cargo to make money with in a carrack?

did medical supplies last night and made about 150k a trip, but it's not really noticeable in 4 mil and I'm trying to get like 9 mil so I can buy a redeemer.

[misty coyote]

Not right now

Laranite is good....but you have to buy waht you can

Laranite first, then titanium

The amount of bugs though, you might be kissing goodbye all of them ducketts

[ocean juniper]

is the mole usable as a solo mining ship? 🙂

[misty coyote]

No, it's a multi crew

well...It IS kinda...Just alot of running back and forth to the mining laser turrets

[cobalt rivet]

Sure it is

[worthy scroll]

Technically yes, but it's very inefficient.

[cobalt rivet]

Just need to learn where the arm is and park ship right over

[ocean juniper]

ahh okay, is the prospector a better choice then?

[misty coyote]

Much...

If you hit a few lucky rocks, you can fill up on the only game in town

[cobalt rivet]

Prospector is more efficient for solo mining

[ocean juniper]

ahh okay, thanks

[cobalt rivet]

Mole is not profitable

In order to make money with mole you have to two man it and find clusters that can fill up to 80 scu

In terms if profit youre better off running solo based on your chances of finding that much quant in one cluster

[ocean juniper]

oh okay, time to head to the greymarket to find a prospector then

got any good mining areas and what i should mine? @cobalt rivet

:p

[cobalt rivet]

Lyria

[ornate ocean]

If i opt to not bother with quant mining how much profit per load on a prospector can i make

[cobalt rivet]

If you find two or more scannable rocks next to each other, there is quantanium inside, but only go after them if they habe combined percentage of 30 or more

I think the next best mineral is like 1/3 the value of quant

[ocean juniper]

are the any builds i should get on my prospector before heading out? 🙂

[misty coyote]

What I will say about Lyria, is there are these big juicy rocks out there......Really high percentage of Quant.....

Which a Prosp won't crack....

Passing them by breaks you inside

[misty coyote]

Lancet Mining Head
Maybe a Stampede or the other boosting one....

Other than that, take a picnic

[ocean juniper]

picnic?

[misty coyote]

....Like the 7k mamma with 48% Quant.....

Mining is thirsty work

Gotta stop for munchies

[ocean juniper]

oh right, thats added now yea

[misty coyote]

See...I think there should be Mining Beacons you can add..>>

Those big rocks that you just can't mine....You ping them for the server....

Then

[cobalt rivet]

You can break them all easily

[misty coyote]

You can be blown up by pirates

[cobalt rivet]

Bring boremax

[misty coyote]

That's not easy

Easy is flying in a ship with a laser

[cobalt rivet]

Just slap that on once

[misty coyote]

Getting out of your ship and placing it isn't hard mind you

I did try that....

Put one on the 7k....Nothing....

[cobalt rivet]

Me personally i dont need it

I am fast with the fingers

[misty coyote]

You should post an instructional about how to crack massive rocks with just a stock Prosp...I'd love to see it...>

No sarc....

[ocean juniper]

on erkul.games how do i see where i can buy the upgrades+

[misty coyote]

You don't

Go to any Lagrange station

ARC-L1, MT-L1, HUR-L1 etc

Go to the refinery

Buy your mining upgrades there

[ocean juniper]

ahh okay, thanks 🙂

[misty coyote]

WHen I say "Stock" I means just with the Lancet mining head

[cobalt rivet]

Cant its too weak for big rocks

It can prob do smaller ones like 4k

5k max

[atomic horizon]

What mining head do you use

[cobalt rivet]

I use lancet but i also use surge and optimum

Optimum and stampede are good with surge

Either or

[ornate ocean]

So how much profit can you get on a prospector if NOT going for quant

[vestal ravine]

I have mined Taranite on Magda just look for the higher percentage rocks. It's a lot easier than Q to deal with.

[cobalt rivet]

If it wasnt for the fact that 30ks happen, id say you might as well be roc mining

But if you know the exploits (macros) roc mining is relatively safe

And more fun

Prospector is for quantainium imo

[ornate ocean]

Ya roc mining gives me command qnd conqure vives

[fallen atlas]

I'd probably ROC mine a lot if it weren't for 30k issues

[fiery cosmos]

You can crack them with Prospector if you use Surge/Stampede or if you know how to utilize gadgets, modules and an alternative mining head. I have a setup that can break any large mass rock with 1 gadget as a supplement.

[misty coyote]

Nice!!

[ocean juniper]

trying to buy that lancent mining head, but it tells me i have insufficient space, how do i free up space? xD

[misty coyote]

Don't buy it to your pocket

Top left hand side, it will be attempting to put it in your trousers, not the station

It's really annoying

[ocean juniper]

ahhh thanks

i gotta park my ship before i can find it in the vehicle loadout manager right? xD

[misty coyote]

Yep

Park it

Store it

[ocean juniper]

thats the word

xD

[cobalt rivet]

Ever wonder why hangars dont have service lifts?

[misty coyote]

They will do

Soon TM

It's how our cargo will be served

[cobalt rivet]

Or npc technicians

[misty coyote]

SO we can move 65 boxes one by one

[ocean juniper]

uh, the fuck, bought the head, it took my money but didnt give it to me lmao

[cobalt rivet]

They can stick random npc technicians inside of contested bunkers but they wont put them in hangars

[misty coyote]

Check your ship

It might have gone there

If it has, you'll need to get into your ship, put it to local, then store it

[cobalt rivet]

[ocean juniper]

oh my fucking god

[misty coyote]

I've done this....

[cobalt rivet]

Its your own fault for not selecting the station as your deposit point

[misty coyote]

It's stupid

[ocean juniper]

[misty coyote]

Alright Swuuk....Wanna tar and feather too?

[ocean juniper]

imma just buy another then lmao

[cobalt rivet]

Just go back to your ship man

[ocean juniper]

2 late xD

i'm way to lazy

uh, what sub-items should i get for that laser

[cobalt rivet]

Id suggest you watch a couple of mining videos

Youd need a surge , optimum, and stampede module

[ivory gust]

Why grey market?

[jovial matrix]

Probably in an attempt to get a discount

[wild dock]

I have 1.6M, best way to make more?

I was thinking about saving for a prospector

[ivory gust]

Grey market is not cheaper than buying direct from what I've seen...people usually try to make a profit

[ivory gust]

ROC mining if you want to mine, bounty missions if you have the rep and a decent ship, cave combat missions if you don't mind FPS combat

[jovial matrix]

Idk then

[wild dock]

Thanks, I'll go for the cave runs

[ivory gust]

Can also get a Prospector with LTI directly from CIG for $10 off right now if you go through a C1

[jovial matrix]

That’s nice

[ivory gust]

Look for "?RT" bounty missions that specify caves, or missions labeled "Evict Illegal Occupants" or "Clear Criminal Nest" that say cave

[wild dock]

I want to upgrade my Freelancer to a C1 but they're the same price so i cant

[jovial matrix]

And make sure to bring the biggest backpack you can, there’s a lot of gems to loot

[ivory gust]

They'll be in the Bounty Hunter category. You may have to do the planet's bounty cert mission first but that's super easy.

Wear heavy torso armor and a heavy backpack, 100 or 120 size. Loot all of the enemies you kill, check their torso armor and backpack, take their gems. Also check loot crates you find

[north oyster]

CCU ... the True game of Star Citizen

[ivory gust]

When you get go the end of the cave, just log off and you'll log back in at the station. Transfer all your gems to the station local inventory then sell them at the admin terminal

If you sell directly from your backpack, it breaks the backpack

[wild dock]

I love SC bugs😂

[jovial matrix]

Something’s gotta keep you on your toes

[wild dock]

Its what keeps it interesting

[ivory gust]

Oh, and I have the best luck on getting cave missions around Hurston

[wild dock]

except when you leave a bunker and your ship doesnt have any control surfaces

[jovial matrix]

Can’t say I’ve ever had that happen

Nvm, misunderstood that

[wild dock]

It happened 2x today

[jovial matrix]

Damn

[wild dock]

also, i did the Halloween mission and jumped on an elevator. It killed me then i got a kicked off the server😑

[jovial matrix]

Lmao RIP

[wild dock]

wouldve been a nice 70k

i assume its a 1 time only thing?

[jovial matrix]

The October rising mission?

[wild dock]

yeah

[jovial matrix]

I think you can get it more than once

[wild dock]

hopefully

[jovial matrix]

It’s the one where you collect a package and bring it to grim right?

[wild dock]

yeah, i had the box on my ship and wanted to keep looting. got killed when i went back a 3rd time

[jovial matrix]

Yeah you can get that mission multiple times

[wild dock]

Good😂

[north oyster]

Since I CCU'd my cutty to a MAX then eventually to a Taurus, I might just grab a Spirit C1. That'll give the cutty as a loaner until it flies. Then I can use all the Livery I've collected with the Cutlass Black

[wild dock]

Since my Freelancer is an upgraded gamepack I cant CCU it right?

[ivory gust]

You can CCU to anything more expensive

[wild dock]

Wait, i think im thinking of the "melting" thing

Where you "melt" it and get store credit

[ivory gust]

You can also melt it, but you'll only get back how much you spent, not what it's worth--so if you got warbond discounts those will be lost

If that's your only package, you'll need to buy another package to play the game

[wild dock]

Ah, i get it. So if i exchange it and get store credit i can buy a game package thats cheaper and upgrade from that right?

[ivory gust]

Yes

[wild dock]

Whats the loaner for the C1?

[ivory gust]

Cutlass Black

[wild dock]

Damn

I hate the cutlass series

[ivory gust]

It's the most logical loaner since cutlass and C1 have almost identical capabilities, except C1 doesn't have a turret

[north oyster]

Just buy the STV for now and then CCU it up to the C1 later

[wild dock]

Yeah, it makes sense. I just dont appreciate it

[jovial matrix]

They need a game package though, since they’re going to be melting theirs

[jovial matrix]

You’re other mid-sized options would be the nomad and the feeelancer

[north oyster]

No melt, just grab the LTI STV and hold on to what you have for now

[wild dock]

I like the freelancer😂

[jovial matrix]

Wacky, but you do you

[north oyster]

Yes, I use to have the MAX until I CCU'd up to the Taurus

Now I just buy the MAX in-game and use it for my ROC and other stuff

[wild dock]

Ive tried to use the ROC a million times and was only successful once, how do you do it

[jovial matrix]

What happened on your unsuccessful runs?

[wild dock]

I spent an hour finding absolutely nothing

[jovial matrix]

Ah

[wild dock]

or very little

most of the time id average like 40k an hour, the one successful run was last year before they changed the way ship inventory worked

[ivory gust]

What moon were you on?

[wild dock]

dont remember, Aberdeen maybe?

[ivory gust]

Ah, you said last year though, I haven't been around that long

[wild dock]

Yeah, I started playing right before IAE last year

[ocean juniper]

was 40 bucks cheaper @ivory gust :p

[ivory gust]

Probably a scam tbh

[ocean juniper]

nah, wasnt @ivory gust

it's pretty much a "gift"

[ivory gust]

Yes, until they contact support and claim their account was hacked, and you end up without a ship and without the money

[twin solstice]

Hello! Im new to the game and got a prospector. Can someone help me with it? I dont understand mining very well

[ivory gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExMVXVWHiAQ

[sonic laurel]

does anyone cave mine at all anymore?

or is hand mining dead

[jovial matrix]

I hand mine occasionally

[sonic laurel]

I guess it's a bit better because of heavy armor and backpacks

and now ship invenories

[jovial matrix]

Yeah. I just do it to relax and not really for money

[sonic laurel]

I heard that caves have boxes of hadanite and stuff in them now

is that a special kind of cave?

[jovial matrix]

The ones for missions spawn loot boxes yeah

[sonic laurel]

like missing client?

or bounty?

[jovial matrix]

Don’t think the missing clients one have any but can’t confirm, the ?RT rated bounties that talk about caves and the evict illegal occupants/clear criminal nest bounty missions should all have boxes

[sonic laurel]

How do I unlock those? Do you have to do space bounties first to unlock those FPS ones?

[jovial matrix]

I don’t know how you unlock them

[sonic laurel]

Thank you anyways

[desert echo]

With the cargo refactor coming soon does anyone know if we are able to purchase or obtain the large SCU box that is only obtainable right now buy placing items in a vehicle and destroying it?

[spring prism]

@unborn dagger https://sc-trade.tools/home << you can use this to find good trading routes

Under trading at the top, choose "Trade Routes" input your ship and how much you wish to spend.

Under Commodities on the left on the trade routes page, I'd recommend choosing Vices in the top dropdown and selecting "Avoid Selection"

[unborn dagger]

You're awesome!

[spring prism]

Also, if you see boxes with orange outlines, it means the place you're buying trade items from doesn't have enough stock for your ship and you will have to wait for more stock until you get a full load.

Also note that stock is cross-server instance. Meaning if you're in another server of 100 people to one of the same region with another 100 people, if someone buys the stock on the other server, it's gone on your server too

[unborn dagger]

Noted. It seems like a pretty awesome hustle.

[spring prism]

This is why a lot of people with larger ships end up going for titanium/etc. nowadays

[jovial matrix]

Be wary of server/client crashes, they really really suck for cargo haulers. Losing a cargo hold worth 1mil+ is not pleasant

[unborn dagger]

I'll do whatever profits, even if it's minor. My second day playing I went around and collected all of the dropped med gowns just to sell them as my little hustle. Then I ran into some guy who told me to buy a C2 and sent me the $ for it. I've yet to even fly it.

[spring prism]

The C2 is just a really, really big Avenger Titan, if you've flown that before

[jovial matrix]

Also pirates exist, even if they are rare, so if you see someone being pirated in global, or if the comm array goes down wherever you’re hauling, probably a sign to pack it up and server hop

[unborn dagger]

All I've flown so far are: Mustang and the Carrack

[spring prism]

If you've flown the carrack, you can definitely handle the C2

[jovial matrix]

Yeah

[unborn dagger]

I've had a wide variety of random experiences

[spring prism]

As funny as that is, it isn't a joke. The Hercules series flies more like fighters

The C2 hercules is also the current end-game cargo hauler until stuff like the Hull C and larger come out. Which will be quite a while. (You also can't land those on-planet / pads with full cargo either.)

[unborn dagger]

I haven't really had any issues flying anything. The carrack was a little wild to land. I only few it from Wala to A18

Other than that, I've learned my mustang pretty well. Map knowledge is my biggest issue currently.

Or system knowledge I should sayn

[jovial matrix]

Wdym by system knowledge?

[spring prism]

if you're having a hard time zooming into a planet, zoom back out, then double click the planet.

[sonic laurel]

how is drug trading/selling in this patch?

still takes hours to sell a few dozen SCU?

[unborn dagger]

Just knowing where certain locations are, finding bunkers, mining outposts, stores, etc.

[spring prism]

Bunkers are mission-specific, don't go out finding them on your own

Also, if you do a bunker, take that carrack along with you and land a decent distance away so you can respawn if need be

[jovial matrix]

You should only buy small amounts of drugs at a time (like 10 SCU max) otherwise you’ll be selling for hours. Widow and slam sell very slowly, wouldn’t recommend buying those. Etam and neon are the good ones. You’re going to have to hop between crusader, hurston, and a couple of Lagrange points often, so have a size 2 quantum drive preferably. Profits are decent though

[unborn dagger]

Unfortunately it's not my carrack haha. Just a guy I met up with.

I've done 3 bunkers so far? 2/3 were extremely buggy.

[spring prism]

The other big respawn ship is the 890 Jump. Though I wouldn't get it over the carrack myself.

[jovial matrix]

Sounds about right for bunkers lol

[sonic laurel]

What's about the cargo limit for efficiency? 20-30 40-50 50+

[unborn dagger]

Some guy showed me his the other day and oh my. That thing is like it's own station itself. Wayyy too fancy for me but it was gorgeous!

[spring prism]

Once we get the apollos, you'll be better off taking them to respawn at bunkers

[jovial matrix]

I’d say take 10SCU of each drug at a time, so like 20-30

The nomad and the cutty black are good for drug running

[sonic laurel]

so a cutty black is better than nomad

lol

[jovial matrix]

Yeah

Faster drive and more potential space

[spring prism]

The Spirit C1 will be even better, speed-wise and 2 extra SCU

[jovial matrix]

Also don’t worry about the cops, if you run away from them you only get a CS1

[sonic laurel]

doesn't CS1 mean no more landing on planets or stations?

[spring prism]

Until 3.18, yeah

In 3.18, CS2 will allow you to land still

[jovial matrix]

The 2 extra SCU wont really be super beneficial since you’re going to buying less than 40 at a time, assuming you wanna sell fast

[unborn dagger]

Cutty is my goal. I know the C2 is great for cargo and etc but for a daily driver I'm excited to get a Cutty. Plus I have a few buddies who just got the game and if we can actually get it installed and running somewhat decent, it'll be nice to have something we can use together.

[jovial matrix]

Yeah, but you can pay it off at grim, and it’s convenient because you’ll be operating in the crusader area

[spring prism]

Mine will be the Spirit C1 once it comes. Already bought it. Which means I have a Cutlass Black Loaner.

[jovial matrix]

The cutty is one of if not my favorite ship, its versatile and useful

[unborn dagger]

I heard that it's at least a year away?

[jovial matrix]

Yeah

[unborn dagger]

Wait you get a loaner in place? That's kind of cool actually.

[spring prism]

We don't know. But that's a good optimistic estimate for now.

[jovial matrix]

Yeah, that way you actually have a ship in the meantime lol

[spring prism]

https://support.robertsspaceindustries.com/hc/en-us/articles/360003093114-Loaner-Ship-Matrix

Its so you have a ship while you wait

If you buy the same ship with aUEC before switching to the pledge ship, it'll come up as a duplicate

Like how I have two prospectors because of the vulture, and buying one via aUEC before getting the vulture

[unborn dagger]

This game is insane. Even with the bugs, there is so much detail and fail safes.

[spring prism]

Your loaner will go away once your actual ship comes out, obviously.

[jovial matrix]

Tis like no other game, in a lot of ways

[spring prism]

There are exceptions to this, however. If you look at the loaner matrix list, and note the RED loaner ships, those are there in case you have one of the bugs listed right before the list.

I'm hoping to get one of the apollos actually in November for IAE

[unborn dagger]

It's so tempting to spend more real money to get a nice pledge but I also know myself and I feel like if I just buy a pledge out of game, then I won't feel as rewarded. If that makes sense?

[jovial matrix]

I’m considering getting a cutty black during IAE

[jovial matrix]

Yeah I get you, kinda removes the point to grinding if you’ve already got the ship you want

Oh, didn’t read that fully

Also understand how it wouldn’t feel as rewarding

It always feels good to buy and explore a new ship

[unborn dagger]

That too. I'd rather start small and see how far I can make it. Hence why being given the C2 was kinda eh. I'd rather just grind out but I know wipe is coming and right now my focus is just learning the game.

[jovial matrix]

Did that last night with the harbinger

[sonic laurel]

will it be on sale?

[spring prism]

There will probably be warbonds of each alongside standard ones

[unborn dagger]

Warbonds?

[jovial matrix]

Yeah. I was kinda in the same boat as you when I started, I started a few days before the 3.17.2 wipe, and got sent money multiple times just because I said I was new. I didn’ bother trying to earn money, and just messed around till the wipe. You’ve got a lot more time than I do, which makes it even weirder cause you’ve got time to save for a ship, but then it’s gonna be wiped pretty quickly, so yeah I would say just do whatever till the wipe

[spring prism]

Warbonds are slightly discounted versions, which can't be purchased with store credit

[sonic laurel]

I just want to upgrade my Nomad for cheaper than 20$

[jovial matrix]

No clue

[spring prism]

But all ships, concepts or not, will be for sale not necessarily on sale, in waves.

the last week will have all ships usually

[sonic laurel]

I did say I wasn't getting the cutty until 30k's were significantly addressed

right now they still cancel missions and place you in an apartment

[spring prism]

If you can get back within 30s, you will retain cargo however

But good luck with that

You can also sell delivery box boxes still if they match the commodity of the place you're at: https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-48926 (Just don't land on a pad / sell there.)

[sonic laurel]

cargo is rare for me. I'm an fps player first an foremost

[spring prism]

^ That will break the delivery box mission

[sonic laurel]

investigate, bunkers, 890j, wrecks,

stuff like that

[jovial matrix]

Same

[spring prism]

I'm more of a non-combat guy, so... yeah.

Eager for Salvage derelicts in the halo

[jovial matrix]

Can’t wait to do some hand salvaging myself

[sonic laurel]

I will 100% do some salvaging

I wanted a character that had something of sci-fi version of fantasy adventurer

randomly finding wrecks to capitalize on

diving into caves and bunkers

exploring wrecks and investigating things

[jovial matrix]

I’m the same way

[sonic laurel]

thinking about making a loose-knit org called "The Motley Crew" based aound this idea. Just people of any level of dedication as a loose fit group for jobs. Spanning a spectrum from opportunistic illegal bucks. To straight and narrow bounty hunts.

maybe end up getting a planet base or larger ship as a mobile base that stores goods

[jovial matrix]

Very interesting

I like the idea of loose-knit cause I got school and all, if you ever decide to go through with that then let me know please

[sonic laurel]

sure thing

[fringe narwhal]

hi, if you have passive mods on mining laser and prospector gets destroyed, do you need to buy new mods?

[glacial dagger]

Yup

[fringe narwhal]

😦

[glacial dagger]

Any mining modules you have on your mining ship will be lost if your ship is destroyed and you claim it

[fringe narwhal]

no wonder today there's rocks i was able to mine yesterday but not today, my modules are gone

[glacial dagger]

Yup. Active and passive modifiers both get deleted on ship destruction or claim

[fringe narwhal]

the pain is not so much having to pay again, it's having to fly to town to get them 🙂

is there a grid somewhere that shows all the different lasers what their stats instead of some flavor text that says nothing?

[glacial dagger]

https://finder.cstone.space/ShipMiningHeads
https://finder.cstone.space/ShipMiningMods
https://finder.cstone.space/FPSMiningMods

There you go 😄

[fringe narwhal]

yes i know about universal item finder, was looking for a page somewhere where you see all the mining heads together to compare

[glacial dagger]

Litterlly all the stats for the heads are on the page 😄

It shows all of them

[spring prism]

Note that the "Window" Size (Optimal Range) will not be at its full size unless you get close enough to the rock.

It iwll get exceedingly smaller the farther you are

[fringe narwhal]

ok thanx

[spring prism]

The only difference between S2 and S1 lasers are the distance from the rock you can be. Mainly because of the Mole's size. if you're using the mole though, chances are you'll be doing asteroids though. Since the mole eats through hydrogen.

[fringe narwhal]

i thought prospector only fitted size 1 ?

[spring prism]

Yes, it does. That's why I'm saying, don't worry about it

As long as you don't go shoving the prospector into the rock's butt, you'll be fine.

[fringe narwhal]

not sure anyways if i'll really get into ship mining, so far it sux

i did way better with gems

[glacial dagger]

You're entitled to your wrong opinion 😄

[fringe narwhal]

my best day at ROC mining is a bit over 700k

[jovial matrix]

That’s like 3 full loads, nice

[glacial dagger]

And my point still stands 😄

[fringe narwhal]

it took some time but at least i could stay out and mine as long as the game didnt 30k me

[glacial dagger]

Hence why ship mining is a little more forgiving

Quant is worth more

[spring prism]

Can you transfer ROC inventory to ship's cargo? Or does it just go into the ship's inventory/storage?

[glacial dagger]

and once you have the refinery deal in place, 30k wont affect it

[fringe narwhal]

with prospector u have to be super selective as to not fill it with worthless junk and takes forever at times just to find 1 rock worth mining

[glacial dagger]

Youc an sell directly from the ROC, but transferring tot he ship is reccomended

With the ROC inside your ship, go to the back of the ROC and Open up the box compartment

[jovial matrix]

You can

[glacial dagger]

Then enter the internal storage of the ROC

[fringe narwhal]

when ROC mining, i take the time and transfer all to ship after each stop

[glacial dagger]

Then ship stuff to the ship

ROCs currently have 0 30k protection, so i transfer little and often as well

[spring prism]

You can have two vehicle tabs open?

[glacial dagger]

Yup

[spring prism]

Neat

[jovial matrix]

I don’t bother transferring, if the 30K takes me then so be it

[glacial dagger]

The ROC is kinda like a loot container and the ship is local inventory

[glacial dagger]

I have a macro for it, so transfers are usually pretty quick 😄

I emptied a full ROC in about 1min 15ish?

[fringe narwhal]

i lost a few millions in gems before i started transfering to ship

[jovial matrix]

Most I’ve lost is like 1/8th of an ROC to a 30k

Granted I probably don’t ROC mine as often as you

[fringe narwhal]

well once in a while u find a spot with 15 hanasite nodes, that fills about 60% of roc, it sux to loose

few days ago i 30k just as i drove the roc in nomad hehe, nice load of hanisite, poof

[jovial matrix]

Yeah true

[fringe narwhal]

all i did since i started playing is ROC mine, i bought a prospector, freelancer mx and fittings plas couple other ships only with gems

[jovial matrix]

Very respectable

[fringe narwhal]

i was told i should go to asteroid belt, is it worth it?

[spring prism]

What ship do you recommend for ROC Mining?

[fringe narwhal]

i like the Nomad because it's landing gears are hover, so easier to land in rough places

but i have yet to try the Cutlass Blck, it's the next ship i'll buy

what i just saw while using prospector is that the scanner spots gems at up to 4500 meters but while in Nomad, the max you can spot them at is 2500 meters, most time less than that

is the cutlass seeing gems at 4500 also, or is it same as with Nomad?

[spring prism]

Well, the cutlass black has 46,000K Storage in comparison to the Nomad's 24,000K, so it'd be quite the haul of gems

[fringe narwhal]

yeah i've never even come close to filling a nomad with gems hehe

[spring prism]

Which also means the C1 would have 2,000K Extra when it comes out

[fringe narwhal]

neways next ship is the cutlass, just because i'm curious about the scanner

[spring prism]

Do you scan with your nomad? Or choose a place near an initial gem scan and go with the ROC from there

[fringe narwhal]

what else am i going to scan with?

[jovial matrix]

You can see gems up to 3k with the cutty

[fringe narwhal]

ok slightly better than Nomad then

[spring prism]

Do non-mining ships only detect gems? Or do they see minerals too?

[fringe narwhal]

i wish it would do as good as prospector

[jovial matrix]

You can detect hand-minables, ROC mine-ables, and normal rocks from the cutty

[spring prism]

I see. Guess that means a lot of filtering out rocks if I just want the gems

[jovial matrix]

Not really

When you’re flying around, only investigate markers that have appeared 3k away or closer

Assuming you’re in a cutty

[fringe narwhal]

oh, earlier i took the propector to the asteroid field just outside of cru l1 and noticed some minable roids also showed some gems icons on them, whats that all about?

[jovial matrix]

If it’s farther than that, it’s not an ROC rock

[jovial matrix]

I think asteroids can have gem deposits on top of them

[fringe narwhal]

oh hehe so EVA adventures then

[spring prism]

You can't change the mining head on the ROC, right?

[jovial matrix]

Nope

Don’t need to though, it can already mine fine

[fringe narwhal]

what helps some is better caps and power plant

over a lot of mining i found out that the extractor is almost always what breaks the ROC when mining... it's best to mine 2 or 3 node then extract then continue mining, if u have many nodes, mine all of them, then try to extract all of them, it fries your caps once in a while

[jovial matrix]

Interesting

I’ve had an issue where the extraction beam doesn’t work after mining a whole patch of gems, but Turning the ROC on and off again fixes it

[fringe narwhal]

i noticed it, so i went out and tested it and was able to break the ROC if i extracted 5 or more node leaving extractor on the whole time

[jovial matrix]

Ahh ok, I turn the beam on and off frequently, so maybe that’s why I haven’t encountered that issue

[fringe narwhal]

yeah sometimes you have toshut everything down, get out, get back in, turn everything on then it works again

[jovial matrix]

Yeah

[fringe narwhal]

last time my ROC broke, maybe 3 days ago, it would remain at 282 heat, only going down extremely slow, at some point i could turn engine back on, drive 2 seconds then it would shut down again hehe

caps were toast

[jovial matrix]

Damn

Do you mine on Aberdeen?

[fringe narwhal]

but as i said, i do a lot of ROC mining

na i pretty much only mine on Daymar

[jovial matrix]

Ah ok, same here

[fringe narwhal]

at north pole, so daylight all the time

[jovial matrix]

I warp to somewhere in-between two points, that way it’s hard to find me

[spring prism]

The ROC comes with Steadfast 2x Power Plants, which are the same as the highest tier, Defiant. You can't upgrade the power plant further basically.

[fringe narwhal]

oh also if u curious how much you mined at one spot, 1% of roc inventory is 8 gems, so easy to calculate how much a stop was worth

[jovial matrix]

Yeah

I found that one deposit is almost exactly 0.03SCU

[spring prism]

Don't know how you're supposed to upgrade this then to have "Better caps"

[fringe narwhal]

it depends on mass and the % of gem in it, like a nice fat .85 mass hanasite with 90% content gives a lot of gems

[jovial matrix]

Yeah

[spring prism]

Literally the same @fringe narwhal

Can't upgrade further

Literally can only upgrade the cooler to something marginally better, but it doesn't matter

[fringe narwhal]

actually i upgraded caps and power due to video i watched when i got started during last freefly

[spring prism]

What video is it? :V

Because erkul is lying then

[fringe narwhal]

oh yeah sorry, it;s cooler i upgraded, mixing things up with one of my ships

[spring prism]

Too bad all the coolers are the same, just they have different distortion times

No joke:

All the same, except distortion time/distortion recovery

Literally nothing can be upgraded on the ROC

Starts with the best power plants:

[fringe narwhal]

anyways ROC is bugged, if you check the heat numbers, it starts at a wild range of heat

[spring prism]

Yes, but all the coolers are 100,000

So it doesn't matter

[fringe narwhal]

sometimes starts and it's at 150, next time u start and it's at 240

once it goes over 280, you're done, might as well just go sell your gems as it's about to crap out

i wonder why this video i saw recommended to buy new gears for ROC if it makes no diff

[jovial matrix]

might've just not looked into it beforehand

[fringe narwhal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLo-O0ptw-0

this nutty brit guy hehe

[spring prism]

"Amiga Store"

[fringe narwhal]

says to buy a topillo cooler and 2 x defiant power plant

[jovial matrix]

lmao

amiga

[spring prism]

Yeah, those are top on the list on erkul

Meaning they're the "best"

Even though they have the same stats >_>

[jovial matrix]

mm amiga pro

[spring prism]

besides distortion recovery on the cooler

[jovial matrix]

my favorite shop

[fringe narwhal]

as for my prospector i bought a helix mining head, i had 2 x focus III on it, which are gone now

[spring prism]

I'm done with metal mining until they fix ghost rocks in the asteroids

Which hopefully will be fixed in 3.18 due to PES >_>

[fringe narwhal]

i practiced ship mining on daymar but it sux for that,, hardly anything worth mining except some occasional bexa

[fiery cosmos]

You don't like mining on Lyria??

[spring prism]

I don't like using the 5x consumables or the smaller optimal windows of larger rocks

I constantly overshoot/undershoot then just blow myself up

[fringe narwhal]

yeah i'm not to hot on all the consumable stuff, i hate shopping, i'd rather find some place that has plenty of bexa

[fiery cosmos]

Have you explored the world of gadgets?

[spring prism]

[ ducks and covers before all the people who say gadgets aren't viable come in. ]

[fiery cosmos]

They are wrong....

[fringe narwhal]

?

[north oyster]

I did test swapping components in the ROC and it seemed to give better life. But I'm also in the habit of reclaiming the ROC every other trip

[fringe narwhal]

is there a moon or planet that is known to have a lot of bexa?

[spring prism]

gadgets are basically modules that you attach directly to the rocks. Once you break the rock you can gather up the gadget again

[north oyster]

Check SC Trade Tools

[fringe narwhal]

@north oyster usuallyt as soon as i see roc starting to have hickups, i dump it where i was mining and go spawn a new one at mining depot

oh yeah then i knowwhat gadgets are

@north oyster isnt trade tool to buy and sell stuff?

[fiery cosmos]

Daymar & Aberdeen. The thing is, it's very scarce in large percentages. You'll have to be very picky and take quite a bit of time to get a full load. And a full load is really the best way to do it since it's half the price of Quant. But it's viable. I did it in a MOLE last week.

[fringe narwhal]

i'm looking for somewhen known to have decent amount of bexa to mine, not to buy 🙂

@fiery cosmos i got lucky on my 1st out with prospector i found a few big bexa rocks on daymar, so got a full load, even had to leave some behind, but after my last 3 outings, i found that i just got lucky hehe

[north oyster]

It shows the location of deposits also

[spring prism]

Guess it's time to upgrade some components on my cutlass black loaner, make some more money, then get a ROC.

[fringe narwhal]

i was told that deposits are procedurally generated and just for u who use scanner, so how could they show u deposites?

[fiery cosmos]

Bruh. He means what planets have what precious metals. Not exactly/literally where deposits are on the planet itself.

[fringe narwhal]

yeah i cant find bexalite in list of deposite

[fiery cosmos]

I told you what planets have the best chances of Bexalite

[fringe narwhal]

i must have missed it

[fiery cosmos]

Daymar & Aberdeen.

[fringe narwhal]

yeah i tried a daymar, only got lucky once

this trip that just ended in a 30k, my cargo was still empty and fuel at 50%

could have picked up some bexa only if i didnt mind having a haull half full of innert 🙂

[fiery cosmos]

Quantanium deposits spawn in higher percentages than Bexalite. 10-20% are good finds for Bexalite. above that is rare all the way up to unheard of.

[fringe narwhal]

i blew a quantinium rock last night, it flipped my ship on it's back and killed the engine hehe

[fiery cosmos]

Mining other minerals is a good chill thing to do if you're burned out or just learning but it will never be comparable to mining Quantanium unless the game changes.

[fiery cosmos]

Sounds like you need some more practice

Mining sub 5k mass Quantanium rocks is pretty easy though with the right Laser and passive modules.

[fringe narwhal]

my focus mods were gone and didnt know it, as some asshole rammed my ship on landing pad at shubin prior

yeah the one that blew up was like 6.5k i had to move the laser all over it before i found a sweet spot but then as soon as in the green, it just shooted up, i turned offthe laser it still blew up 🙂

[fiery cosmos]

Above 5k mass things get tricky and require active modules for the Lancet and Gadgets/passive modules for other lasers.

[fiery cosmos]

What laser were you using

Lancet doesn;t produce enough power to crack large mass rocks without active modules.

[fringe narwhal]

thing aboyt the Q stuff is, unless you find a spot with multiple rocks with planty of it in them, it is not worth mining it, since u got only 15 mins after it's in cargo

using helix

[fiery cosmos]

This is incorrect

[fringe narwhal]

was also using 2 x focus mods but they gone

[fiery cosmos]

The Helix is useable if it's set up correctly with Passive Modules and you utilize Gadgets

[spring prism]

Time to sit here so I can take my cutlass black out for upgrades

[fringe narwhal]

@fiery cosmos what's incorrect?

[fiery cosmos]

One rock can fill your hold and net you 200k + EZ

[fringe narwhal]

didnt know that, has not happened to me, must be rocks with very high % then

best i seen so far is 30% and it blew up in my face hehe

[spring prism]

Always need to go for rocks with at least 30% or higher

Asteroids are basically a no-go until PES / Ghost rock fix as a result

[fringe narwhal]

for some reason, when i go to north pole of daymar, i never see any Q but once in a while i scan around Shubin and i find some there

[fiery cosmos]

A 5k rock with 20% Quant, has 175k worth of Quant in it.

[fiery cosmos]

Daymar doesn't have large deposits of Quant

[fringe narwhal]

yeah if it splits the right way instead of spreading all it's Q among 6 pr 7 rocks or more

no most i seen so far is 2 Q rocks together, others had none in them

in a video i saw that lyria had larger deposites of it

[fiery cosmos]

Lyria has the largest deposits of Quant.

Everyone who mines Quant on surface, mines Lyria.

[fringe narwhal]

i should try it, i just been lazy, didnt wantto move both prospector and freelancer max there hehe

[fiery cosmos]

Everyone else mining Quant is in the Halo Belt

[fringe narwhal]

yeah, the belt is my next trip

[fiery cosmos]

If you want to mine Lyria, move your ships and respawn point to ARC-L1

[fringe narwhal]

yeah it is why i haven't yet, i like living in the cru area

[fiery cosmos]

CRU-L1 is where you want to be if you want to mine the Halo

[fringe narwhal]

?

cru l1 is where i live

[fiery cosmos]

Great. Mining the Halo is great from there

[fringe narwhal]

from cru l1 ? how do u get there? or is the roids u see just outside of it part of halo?

[fiery cosmos]

I suggest you watch a YT tutorial. Forgive me but I don't have the strength to explain it in detail.

[fringe narwhal]

so a video that tells how to get to halo from cru l1?

[fiery cosmos]

Yep

[fringe narwhal]

ok will give it a go

must be a lot of lil pirates going there to kill and get miner's stuff?

[fiery cosmos]

No. That's one of the benefits of mining out there. It's extremely vast. No one will find you out there.

[fringe narwhal]

good

[ivory gust]

Cutlass spots gems at the ~3100 range that most ships (including Nomad) do. Useful things that spot them farther away are MSR, Valkyrie, Carrack

[fringe narwhal]

but do MSR, Valkyrie, Carrack carry a ROC ?