industrial-professions

[worthy scroll]

The 135c also has the same problem, if you put a box by hand in the aft/under cargo. Works just fine if you put them in the cabin, or cabin cargo area.

Guess I need to test and see if the forward cargo lift on the 315p does it too.

[native slate]

What suit do I need to mine on daymar?

[ivory gust]

None in particular, undersuit+helmet is fine

[native slate]

bet

[green grove]

better to mine with a ship or rover?

[fallen atlas]

ship.

[green grove]

only prospector ?

[fallen atlas]

Or MOLE, but that's a bit more involved

[green grove]

how so

[fallen atlas]

It's made for more than 1 person to use

3xs2 mining lasers

[green grove]

but works the same

[fallen atlas]

Pretty much. Prospector is cheaper

and as 1 person just as profitable.

[green grove]

are either in the freefly?

[fallen atlas]

no

[green grove]

oh

[fallen atlas]

Prsopector is rentable though

[green grove]

not sure why but i thought the mole was in freefly

[fallen atlas]

Rent (1 day)
51,525 aUEC
Rent (3 days)
131,389 aUEC
Rent (7 days)
252,473 aUEC
Rent (30 days)
850,163 aUEC

The ARGO RAFT is freefly

[green grove]

thanks, im trying to make the most money the quickest seems to be mining

[green grove]

ah

i need 5mil so its gonna take a while XD

[fallen atlas]

If you're trying to make the most money with what you have, Bounty hunting is by far the most repeatabloe and quick

mining is a bit frustrating to pick up at first as it's a little unreliable sometimes

[green grove]

yeah i have done most gameplay loops so yeah ive experienced mining before

[cobalt rivet]

Mining is always reliable as long as you understand the meta

[green grove]

and the meta is quantum mining?

[cobalt rivet]

No, meta is how to quickly locate quant rocks

Mine lyria, locate physical clusters, jump servers by bed logging

Targetting inactive server regions yields best results

[green grove]

yeah i need to get a prospector

[cobalt rivet]

Rental

Gadgets

[green grove]

yeah

what gadgets

[cobalt rivet]

Boremax, Waveshift, sabir

Stock up on alot of each

[green grove]

what do they do?

[cobalt rivet]

Read them

[green grove]

ok

[cobalt rivet]

You can stack different ones on the same rocks

Toggle the spectrum til you get 90 percent or higher

Activate

Still requires some skill

But def better than plain stock

[covert sun]

Hey guys, I just saved up to finally be able to buy a Prospector and hopefully gear it for quant mining. Just got one question, do you think 2.2mil aUEC is enough to buy and fully outfit a mining Prospector, and is there like a recommended outfitting guide for a Prospector I should be using?

[cobalt rivet]

Close

If you dont upgrade shield or quant drive then may

[covert sun]

hmm, how much do you think for fully upgrading it? I can easily grind a few more bunker missions

[cobalt rivet]

Still need some surge and optimum/stampede mods

2.4 mil prob

[covert sun]

ah, easy, I'll aim for that, thanks. Do you know if there's a good recommended spec for the Prospector that's up to date? From what I've heard mining has fairly recently changed so I assume a lot of guides are out of date

[ivory gust]

ffs guys stop telling people to rent the prospector, it's not a good idea

[cobalt rivet]

Lancet mh1 plus the modules I mentioned

[ivory gust]

Lancet head is the only thing you need. Next would be Spectre drive. Modules are needed if you're mining Lyria, optional if you're mining the Halo

[covert sun]

oh, wasn't the helix head the go-to back in the day? Why Lancet now?

[ivory gust]

Helix got nerfed

[cobalt rivet]

Stability most important

Surge mod will make up fir lack of power

And stamp/optimum to finish rock off

[covert sun]

Gotcha, ok Lancet MH1 then - will go for that. I'll look into mods too, no idea how to use those. Thanks for the info!

[cobalt rivet]

Equip mods in slot, alt1, 2, or 3 to activate

Just make sure you know what they do and how they act before comitting to their use

[covert sun]

What slot?

[cobalt rivet]

Youll see when you config your ship

[covert sun]

ok cool, yeah I'll see if I can find a video or something on the mods to know how they work before I use them.

[marble crater]

The Lancet laser comes with 3 empty module slots in the Vehicle Loadout Manager. You can equip modules there. Be aware you lose these modules if you ever need to claim the ship

[cobalt rivet]

My new hobby will be to crack rocks with rentals

And then just leave them there for people to find

[meager gorge]

Chaotic good

[simple lintel]

hello, I have just invested all my money into a Prospector. Can anyone give me some tips on where to go mining? Im new so preferebly safe place where I can learn the job. Asteroid mining maybe? whats the suggestions?

[cobalt rivet]

Lyria moon

[simple lintel]

thank you, is it safe to mine over there? Im not much of a pilot, Im an easy target

[worn dock]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMd2J1iNJCMeRTQ6z3IryoICCKVwVCEdz

[simple lintel]

many thanks, all the best to you, thank you

[cobalt rivet]

If you fly towards a jump point then fly away off into the distance , the chances of you running into someone is slim

[simple lintel]

thank you very much, Im sure to follow the tips, problem is I do not even know where the Jump Point is. Im really new at this all

[simple lintel]

thanks again, those are great videos.

[cobalt rivet]

Any point on planet or in space you can qauntum travel to is called a jump point, i dont call them quantum beacons because for some stupid reason CIG decided to call their mission markers quantum beacon

rather than distress beacons

[glacial dagger]

Sorry, not quite. Jump Points are locations that allow for inter-system travel, such as moving from Stanton to Pyro. Quantum Beacons could fit the OM points and such, although Quantum Co-ordinates might work a little better

[cobalt rivet]

lisun

on a rock breaking quest now

fk semantics

anyone know if you can double up on gadgets to double the effects?

[glacial dagger]

But the semantics are important, especially when Jump points exist (just aren't in game yet)

[glacial dagger]

Indeed you can

We had like 5 handhelds on a Prospector rock, we broke it with 4 ROCs

[cobalt rivet]

gonna rental this bish

with rental prospec

broke a 7.5 k earlier, gonna go run this shit til its smooth

[undone wolf]

so a cargo question for the mustang alpha how do i store stuff inside of it in the cargo bay also does that stuff save between sessions?

[glacial dagger]

So if you go to the back of the mustang there should be an interactable button somewhere. Click it and the box should drop down. Once it's down, try stepping inside it and pressing 'I'

If you cant step inside or 'i' doens't bring up a ship storage menu, then you cant store stuff in there

otherwise, if you were to store items inside another ships storage like the Avenger titan and you were to bed log or store your ship at a city/station and then log off, your stuff should indeed be saved between sessions

[undone wolf]

okay okay thanks!! sorry for the not smart question

[glacial dagger]

Nahh, it's all good bud. No question is a dumb question if you genuinely didn't know before hand

[undone wolf]

well its my first day and just trying to figure the stuff like contracts out before i do the other dangerous contracts

[glacial dagger]

If your still struggling, I recommend checking out the Guide System over on Spectrum

[undone wolf]

okay thanks!!

[simple lintel]

Thanks again, I have a lot to learn…..

[covert sun]

Hey, someone here recommended a Spectre drive earlier. I got it but now I can't really jump far, which makes it tricky to get to the mining spot I was planning on going to. Would you guys recommend another drive if I'm doing long jumps like this?

[cobalt rivet]

Mil spec Grade A

dont expect to jump across the solar system tho

you want a QT that takes you a short distance in a fast amount of time

and you want to mine relatively close to your refinery

[covert sun]

Where would you recommend a noobie like me to do my first quant mining trip? 🙂

[cobalt rivet]

gimme a sec ill check my specs

[covert sun]

People keep telling me to mine on Yela but people also keep telling me to base out of ARC L1. Not sure where to base near Yela, CRU L1 or L2?

[marble crater]

ARCL1 is a great spot, you can mine in the Halo or at Lyria in ArcCorp

[covert sun]

In the halo?

[cobalt rivet]

dont listen to people who tell you stuff over people who actually play

jump into mining channels with people on the weekend and see how they platy

i used the Vk00 Quantum Drive

[covert sun]

What's the benefit with that over the Spectre drive? I understand Spectre is stealthy, but I guess slower than Vk00 then?

[covert sun]

Do you mean this halo? https://starcitizen.tools/Aaron_Halo

[cobalt rivet]

Setup Mining at Arc L1, you can pivot to Aaron Halo or Lyria then sell at Area 18

Micro Tech has stupid strong storms,

you dont wanna get caught in that

Crusader is like crime haven so dont even bother there

[marble crater]

yeah Aarons Halo is an alternative to Lyria but has alot of problems with unscannable rocks. The payoff is you get no other people there & you can break anything you find with just a Lancet head as the rocks don't get bigger than 5.2T. It's generally a good spot to learn for solo
https://cstone.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes

Lyria is the top spot to go when you know what you're doing

[covert sun]

Oh interesting, I was actually trying to go from ARC L1 to the Halo belt (someone gave me instructions on how to get there) and that's when I noticed my Prospector can't make the jump lol

I'll try to change the drive again, if I can afford it

[marble crater]

once you're at ARCL1, you can get to the Halo or Lyria with the Spectre drive just fine

[hollow sedge]

so has anyone dabbled with voice attack for inventory transfers?

[covert sun]

I was trying to do this with a full tank of fuel. Jump from ARC-L1 to CRU-L4 shows not enough fuel

[cobalt rivet]

thats sone shitty quantum drive

XD

[covert sun]

Wait no shit sorry, I was trying to go to CRU-L1. My bad!

[marble crater]

yeah thing is you will manually disable the jump along the way, you don't go all the way to CRU-L4. The VK00 drive has even less range so it;s the same principle

[covert sun]

ok, I'll try again, let's see..

[marble crater]

for short jumps like you use in mining, the Spectre drive is also quicker than the VK00 as it's more about the acceleration than the top speed which you never even hit in a short jump

[cobalt rivet]

just mine Lyria

save yourself the headache

[covert sun]

I made it, finally. Thanks so much for the help! Onwards with the hunt for a good rock... speaking of which, do you guys have a specific % of quantanium you look for?

[cobalt rivet]

keep an eye out for Q type rocks

itll be the first indicator

[marble crater]

for your first rock maybe try just mining anything other than Quant just to learn the process

[covert sun]

I have mined on moons before with a rental prospector, this will be my first time grabbing quant though

[marble crater]

this vid from Red Monster covers the different scanning techniques between space/moons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLOx_bfg_eM&t=448s

[covert sun]

ok thank you, I'll check it out

[shut vine]

does same passive module stack?

[cobalt rivet]

hm stacking same type gadgets dont work

oh man crashed in the middle of cracking a 7.9 k rock

this not good

hope ship is still there when I get back on XD

it prob blew up if the power kepts running

hopefully a disconnects means power down

[worthy scroll]

Depends on how long it takes for the server to realize you're gone.

[cobalt rivet]

i got back in but im stuck in the pipes on my ship

[worthy scroll]

heh

[cobalt rivet]

CIG must of heard me talking shit about them again

[ivory gust]

No dammit stop recommending that

He already had a Spectre which is better

[cobalt rivet]

[ivory gust]

You don't need to go far, just from arc L1 to Lyria (or halo) and back

Don't listen to Swuuk, Spectre is better than the military drives

[covert sun]

Thanks for the info! Yeah I eventually managed to get to halo. Just got back with my first load of quant. Got about 16/32 SCU worth of quant. Not great but not bad either I suppose 🙂

[ivory gust]

Not bad at all for first time

[worthy scroll]

Yep, not bad at all. Patience is a big part of the game, holding off until you find the right rock to break.

[covert sun]

Yeah, the trick for me right now is really to figure out what rocks to pass up and which to go for

The one I grabbed had about 20% quant

[cobalt rivet]

I've already passed 3 rock clusters one of which had enough to filla whole mole

but im just breaking rocks for fun

[ivory gust]

At 5000 mass, 1% == 1 SCU

[covert sun]

oh good to know! Thanks. I'm pretty sure the rock I grabbed was just over 5000 mass with a bit over 20% quant, so I guess I left a few % of it by the end

[cobalt rivet]

damn this last crash, got back in and 30K

CIG comes up with new ways to irritate me

prospector came back from 30k upside down

cant even enter

[little cliff]

is there a way in the argo mining turret to change the ping angle?

I can ping, but I can't change the agnle

[hollow sedge]

theres a quant rock i couldnt mine

the power wont increase even at max 100

[gaunt fiber]

It’s probably too big for your mining laser

[ivory gust]

yes, that's why you need Surge and Stampede modules if you're on Lyria

[gaunt fiber]

what are you mining with?

[ivory gust]

or gadgets, if you hate being efficient and like losing money to bugs

[hollow sedge]

im using lancet

[ivory gust]

Yes, max practical mass for a lancet without surge/stampede is around 5500

Above that you need the modules

[hollow sedge]

wtf my module is missing

i installed it earlier

wth

its not in my local too

wtf

the game stole my module

[ivory gust]

Modules go away when you claim your ship

[hollow sedge]

what

for real

wtf

[ivory gust]

yes

[hollow sedge]

this is stupid

[shut vine]

can't attach mining gadgets..

any tips?

[cobalt rivet]

you attach them to the rock

hold left mouse

once they appear on the rock, release it

anyone know where the optimax gadget is

[covert sun]

How do you guys like this for my 3rd load of quant ever? 😄 ahahah

[sleek torrent]

SC trade tools seems off on its prices. Gallog is dead on. Is Sc trade tools just out of date?

[covert sun]

Hey I never noticed this before, but this thing on the left, is it something I should worry about or does it not really matter?

[cobalt rivet]

Negligible

[marble crater]

I see the Halo is treating you well lol

good haul

[covert sun]

Haha yeah, good start to my mining career I think! I don't know how much I'll make once I can sell this but it'll be interesting to see. Hopefully I can use some free fly ships for transport. Thanks again for the tips!

[marble crater]

you've made around $570K just off the Quant

[covert sun]

Nice, 3 more nights like this and I'll make back what I spent on the prospector then. Not bad

[crimson oak]

go into your keybinding settings and look for "Flight - Radar" or something like that, there are two settings there to increase/decrease the ping angle, feel free to reset it to something more convenient. I set it to mousewheel when im mining, then reset it after when im done.

[quasi lark]

I've heard cargo trading is more valuable than mining quantanium as a sort of quicker profit than quantanium, is this true?

[nocturne adder]

how to reduce scan range in prospector to 180?

[misty coyote]

Press, or scroll wheel down whilst in scan mode

That's ","

Ping is radar
Scan is...... Scan

[elfin heath]

Can anyone recommend a QD for my prospector, I'm planning on trying to mine out in the belts now, I'm jumping between ARC & Hurston & ARC & CRU, For the CRU jump the VK-00 barley enough for a 2 way trip if you over jump you're screwed, i need something capable of getting me there & back within the time frame with a decent speed & less fuel consumption?

I'm, thinking about a Burst over a Atlas?

[normal flax]

Not that its a big deal, but are you not able to see refined quantanium in cargo hold when transporting?

Or is it visible only above a certain amount

[royal cairn]

its random if you see it or not

i think one cargo haul I did in the last month had some of it visible

[normal flax]

Gotcha

[hollow sedge]

whats the other good stuff you can mine thats no quant

[normal flax]

Next best imo is Hadenite

[marble crater]

little cheat sheet for what you can mine

prices are after refining

[elfin heath]

Quant is the only one worth mining imo

If you turn your ship off when landing with quant does your quant turn to inert? i had almost a full load 29.5 & now it's all inert?

I normally just exit the seat without turning the entire ship off, first time doing it/running into this issue

[cobalt rivet]

If you have a mole you can just fill it with taranit on Wala if you want easy mining

For its price taranite is pretty solid source of income

It’s literally everywhere on Wala

[normal flax]

Best FL MAX loadout for Cargo? budget is not an issue

[vestal ravine]

My last three mining trips have been interrupted by pirate or NPC attacks. I had to ALT F4 each time. While on the mining pad they landed and fired "under" the armistice shield. For this last time I took out my A2 to go ROC mining!! The shields were getting all lit up so I bailed out lol. Be careful!!

[normal flax]

In regards to core parts, not weapons

[spring prism]

The armstice area doesn't mean you can't fire into it

Never has been

The satellite icon visible when you have your helmet on also indicates that the region is monitored for criminal activity, such as blowing you up

[vestal ravine]

Yea, it seemed more shots were getting through on this horizontal plane either way it was a mess.

[worthy scroll]

XL-1 quantum drive. There really isn't much you need to change for running cargo, even the drive isn't necessary as you're only making extremely small jumps.

[normal flax]

Cool cool, thank you

[worthy scroll]

Maybe get better shields if you feel like it. FR-76.

Sometimes someone else's bounty mission will spawn on you when you're buying.

[cobalt rivet]

Can bounties spawn near mining outposts?

[barren marsh]

Yes

[worthy scroll]

They spawn around POIs.

Sometimes.

I've had my ship blown up more than once while I was inside a bunker grabbing boxes for a mission. And I've had them spawn over me while I was in a hab buying cargo too.

[fallow breach]

anyone want a rock thats 41% quant and 5751 mass?

planet side at lyria

[cobalt rivet]

break a 20% rock, 100% piece is buried underground

[worthy scroll]

I had that happen once. Only a tiny corner was sticking up out of the ground, a really hard target to hit. And it was storming like crazy, so I couldn't just sit there and shoot it. So what I did was crank the power like mad, hit it when I could, and overload it. Fly away before it blows. I still got KO'd though, blown back hundreds of meters from where I was. Ship was dead. Then a 30k happened and me and my ship were respawned and I got my load back.

[idle yacht]

Guys, if my friend let me drive his Prospector. Will I be able to unload the cargo / start a refinery job when I get back to the refinery?

[cyan mountain]

i didnt remember roc mining being such a waste of time

[worthy scroll]

No, his ship, his cargo.

[ivory gust]

Spectre

[elfin heath]

Already got a atlas, Happy with that tbh

Way better for my needs than VK-00

[worthy scroll]

I use the Atlas as well. Never had a problem getting anywhere in time with it.

[ivory gust]

Doesn't have anything to do with turning off the ship, there's a bug where Quant sometimes goes inert or explodes when you land.

Never land, always just impound. Float up to a hangar door without calling ATC

[ivory gust]

VK-00 is a trap anyway and actually takes longer than the Atlas for short hops (e.g., ARC L1 to ArcCorp)

[native slate]

best roc setup?

like mining head and does the power plant change anything>

[cyan mountain]

the roc just works as it is

[native slate]

it says i need more power

[cyan mountain]

nah its always like that

it workey

[ivory gust]

Can't change mining head

Some people claim that switching the power plant and cooler help it last longer before it dies but you need to repair frequently anyway

[native slate]

ok

[cyan mountain]

i wanna do something different

i never tried cargo hauling

[native slate]

how do I know when its time to repair?

[native slate]

its fun

[cyan mountain]

should i even bother with an andromeda?

[native slate]

slap a youtube vid up

[native slate]

96 scu

[cyan mountain]

next wipe ima go with the taurus

[ivory gust]

Every time you sell

[native slate]

ok

[native slate]

taurus is awesome

best middle ground connie tbh

24 missiles, turret, hidden cargo hold, 172 scu, 4 size 4s

[ivory gust]

Taurus better pick than the Andromeda as long as you only fly solo or with one other person

[idle yacht]

Is there a way to increase Prospector UI or Font? I'm old, I almost can't read the minerals name when my mining laser is targeting

[native slate]

you could hold f and scroll up to zoom

[vestal ravine]

Will 1151 quantity Taranite be a good payoff?

[night meadow]

o/

Any Good fit for a prospector ( quantenium spec ) ty

[elfin heath]

Just checking, Shatter damage is only bad if you mess up & the rock explodes right? But if cracked correctly you have no worries?

I'm planning on using a BoreMax + OptiMax Combo & just want to make sure my understanding of shatter damage is right? So far i've only used BoreMax on it's own

[uncut bone]

so i rented a ship a few days ago i no longer have it but it shows up in my inventory and i put a full job in it to sell from refinery but i cant spawn the ship because it was rented please help

[plush maple]

Your rental period expired?

[plush maple]

Did you try renting again to try and see if that works?

[drowsy drift]

all-out Cargo Run, I like to live dangerously

[uncut bone]

yes and i already rent another befor loading to drop stuff off and both ships where in the refiner i had 2 tickets so i was able to sell one but i loaded on ticket on to the ghost ship

[vestal ravine]

Anyone Roc mine on Wala? I saw one gem today while there.

[ivory gust]

It's gone and irretrievable. I recommend filling those "Ghost" ships with scrap from the admin terminal so you can't deliver refinery jobs to them

[ivory gust]

Lancet MH1 mining head with surge, stampede, optimum modules.

Spectre quantum drive

[real gale]

i ran some numbers and filling up with scrap at lorville at selling it at orinth nets 40k extra per hour when doing laranite and titanium runs

[uncut bone]

thank you i will look into that if this new rented ship bugs befor i rent a new one

[real gale]

finally got my C2

[ivory gust]

Except it adds a lot of time versus just going back and getting another load of laranite/titanium. Not worth it imo

[worthy scroll]

This. Which is what I said the other day.

Each scrap run is basically a missed laranite/titanium run, so you're basically losing 60k per run.

[ivory gust]

Ehhh, it's half a laranite/ titanium run, since it only adds one stop

[worthy scroll]

Translating those numbers to my Cat anyway.

[real gale]

this is what i came up with in my c2

since you fill up scrap where u sell the laranite/titanium it just adds an extra stop that is on the way

the scrap profit calc is wrong btw, i just took the numbers from trade tools for a c2 filled with scrap

forgot to calculate it, im doing a real calc now

[ivory gust]

It's not "on the way" though, it increases the round trip time without adding much profit

[real gale]

the time is right tho

[ivory gust]

Only 4 minutes to add a full extra stop? C2 OP

[real gale]

yeah its just up and down on hurston, its pretty quick

[worthy scroll]

That's an extra 15m for the Cat 🤣

[real gale]

i drive like a maniac btw

maybe thats why it works

[worthy scroll]

The Cat is just that slow. It takes minutes to land at Lorville after jumping in.

[real gale]

c2 goes brrrrrrr

[drowsy drift]

how much is the C2?

[real gale]

4.9 mil

[drowsy drift]

dang...

[worthy scroll]

Yeah I know, I had one before that I grinded in game. That thing is just stupid, almost to the point that I don't like it.

[real gale]

its beautiful

[worthy scroll]

Oh I hate how it looks lol.

[real gale]

shaved like 4 minutes of the lorville to bezdak route compared to the carrack

and the tank is massive

[ivory gust]

My hope is that the cargo refactor really benefits the Caterpillar and hurts the C2

To at least make them on par rather than C2 always better

[real gale]

i might buy the cat next just to practice with it incase of a rework

but yeah its stupid how strong the C2 is

[worthy scroll]

The C2 is just too fast and too maneuverable for how big it is.

[real gale]

its even classed as a courier ship and its the best cargo hauler xD

[drowsy drift]

may I ask how you made your money?

[worthy scroll]

The Caterpillar is kind of like the Paladin in old Wow. It's the one you use when you want to do other stuff while you play.

[real gale]

ive done a bit of everything, today i sold a Large Artifact Fragment (Pristine) for 1,250,000 for example

done lots of bunkers and sold weapons, alot of bounty hunting and some cargo hauling with the carrack now

basically just played the game and the money comes

[drowsy drift]

do you sell the weapons here in the discord or ingame shops?

[real gale]

here on disc is much much more profitable

but you can only sell certain guns

railguns, grenade launchers, LMGs and P6-LR is the most sold

[drowsy drift]

that's good to know, I actually have a bunch of LMG's and Sniper Rifles

[real gale]

check the #market-street the see what the usually go for

[drowsy drift]

I will, thank you ^^

[real gale]

ouf just 30k'd

lucky i just had scrap

if i hadnt done the scrap run there i would probably have had a full load of laranite / titanium lol

if i wait like 10-15 minutes now, i should be able to retrieve the C2 with the cargo in it right?

[worthy scroll]

If you have to claim it, no.

[real gale]

it says i can retrieve it, should be good then?

[worthy scroll]

Should be.

[real gale]

Cool, thanks 🙂

the RAFT is a pretty cool ship

[serene quest]

woah what?

[worthy scroll]

It is, I can't wait for it's actual use to be in the game.

[serene quest]

^

still waiting on my Ranger

have a feeling that will be the go-to ground vehicle aside from the mule once all it's pieces work

Ranger CV anyway

[indigo fox]

Hey everyone. I just got back into this game after a couple years. I’ve never done mining. I have the Andromeda and the greycat. I plan to do some mining (or try to) this evening. Anything I need to know right away? Do I need to buy a mining gun or does the greycat have that?

[worthy scroll]

You'll need a mining attachment for the multi tool for hand mining. The ground vehicle for mining is the ROC.

[real gale]

yeah pretty insane, i had it in my inventory for ages after doing some abandoned outpost farming a few weeks back
saw a guy advertise he wanted to buy one for 1mil, i did a special delivery in a pvp zone and he gave me an extra 250k

[serene quest]

ooooooo lol I thought you meant the vendors in game bought it for that much haha

[real gale]

now that would have been insane

[serene quest]

got me one of these

[real gale]

he buys a lot of those

1 mil each for pristine ones i think

I also offer 1.000.000 a piece for the following:

Small Artifact Fragment (Pristine)
Medium Artifact Fragment (Pristine)
Large Artifact Fragment (Pristine) [FOUND]
Government Cartography Agency Medal (Pristine)
Tevarin War Service Marker (Pristine)
UEE 6th Platoon Medal (Pristine)
UNE Unification War Medal (Pristine)
UNE Silver Ingot (Pristine)
UNE Gold Ingot (Pristine)

quoted from #market-street

[serene quest]

woah there's a cartography medal?

[real gale]

apparently

[indigo fox]

Where can I get a hand attachment from?

[ivory gust]

You don't need it if you have the ROC

(I assume that's what you meant by "greycat")

[serene quest]

Any refinery/cargo area

[indigo fox]

Ok. Thank you.

[meager gorge]

Where do you find these? What missions usually spawn them?

[real gale]

i found it at an abandoned outpost on microtech

dont think any missions spawn them

[cobalt rivet]

Wait is this earned or bought

Would be interesting if you as a player could become an agent

[meager gorge]

Thanks!

[real gale]

its found in boxes

[serene quest]

Found

This one was found in a bunker inside a safe

[cyan mountain]

i think i have 2

[north oyster]

Welcome back! The game has changed a good bit over the past few years. I would suggest renting for 24hr the ROC (about 4k aUEC) and also getting Pembroke armor. You will want to mine on Aberdeen for Hadanite. You can pull about 200K aUEC per load. Then the next day buy the ROC at New Deal at Loreville space port

[sleek torrent]

Got a yellow crate with the vice symbol on it so I assume it’s drugs. But. It doesn’t tell me what type. Anyone know if it’s sellable?

[strong kestrel]

do we know if cargo is going to be more lucrative after the cargo system update? instead of just the same profit with more effort/time

[ivory gust]

We don't know yet

[crimson oak]

where do you even get those things? never come across anything like that.

[jovial matrix]

abandoned outposts on microtech

[delicate relic]

Does the mole have an issue in hangers where it acts like it is under sever gravity?

[ivory gust]

Hangars have gravity, MOLE needs to use vtol

[delicate relic]

ahhhhh first ship i used with vtol that was actully required

so I would approach hanger, turn on vtol, then enter hanger? when in vtol mode what can I expect movement wise?

just more up thrust, but all controls the same?

[ivory gust]

Yes, all controls the same.

Also, if you're returning to the station full of Quant, don't land in a hangar, just get impounded

[delicate relic]

ahh just block hanger and let take care of impound fees?

[ivory gust]

Yep. Not all hangars will trigger it, so if you're in front of the hangar and it's not starting the impound after 15sec or so, move to another hangar

[delicate relic]

cool. thanks for the tip!

mole is awkward as heck alone lol

do passive mods survive ship blowing up? I heard active ones dont, but there also charges so makes sense kinda?

[ivory gust]

Nope, all modules are lost

[delicate relic]

dang, k

[cobalt rivet]

[delicate relic]

so why does everyone recommend the lancet? just cause it has the most stability? what about it makes it the laser for quant
?

[cobalt rivet]

Stability

[delicate relic]

so if me a a coule fools are mining junk metals, jwe would be better of getting a diffrent laser then?

couple

[cobalt rivet]

Sure but lancet can mine those other metals too

So why change it

[delicate relic]

I noticed once I went to the lancet it was harder to break some rocks, I assumed it was cause it was mroe stable and less powerfull.

[cobalt rivet]

Yes

Bigger rock more resistance

[delicate relic]

So a helix would let me mine maybe a double sized rock compared to lancet if I red the powers right, it would just be more jumpy ( but still a - to instability like lancet, lancet is -75, this one is -30, but lancet is 1400 power and this is 2300 power) so for trash rocks this might go much faster right?

( not trying to argue, just understand )

[cobalt rivet]

Can try and find out

[ivory gust]

Wouldn't be double, might let you go up to 7500 though

Lancet goes to 5.5

[delicate relic]

huh, I do have 3 spots on mole, can try 3 at a time

[cobalt rivet]

Sure

[delicate relic]

ahh cause its on curve size to mass.

cant just double size with out quadring mass or somthing like that

[ivory gust]

I don't think anyone has ever figured out the exact mathematical relationship between power, resistance, and mass

[cobalt rivet]

You should try a rental and gadgets

Youll learn a lot

[delicate relic]

already got the mole

[cobalt rivet]

[delicate relic]

its a place holder for my liberty upgrade path.

[cobalt rivet]

Youll be lord if the mines

A real slave driver

[ivory gust]

Mining lesser ores is also kind of a waste of time compared to quant

[delicate relic]

err liberator upgrade

[cobalt rivet]

One whip to rule them all

[delicate relic]

I know. I am more about relaxing when mining vs making money efectiently

[cobalt rivet]

Kal

Humor me

And take your mole to Wala and mine only Taranite

[delicate relic]

ya, gonna take a load of prospecters out to pryo in my liberator and charge them percents of thier takes 😛

HAHA

[cobalt rivet]

Fill that shit up to the brim

With taranite

[delicate relic]

Could you imagine the pirate who scans me thinking he caught someone with a load of valuable stuff!

[cobalt rivet]

Youll find it almost everwhere on wala

Taranite is 33 per unit

[delicate relic]

ohh that stuff is actully not that bad priced. I thought you where gagging me with the cheapest stuff or soemthing

[cobalt rivet]

Fill 96 ,000 x33

[delicate relic]

Ok wala, is it a moon then?

like land and mine the rocks near me LOL

[cobalt rivet]

Yes

[delicate relic]

HAHA will absolutly do this!

[cobalt rivet]

Its the icey blue rocks

[delicate relic]

nice, so will be obivious with out scanning, I only knew quant is gold.

I did bring in a lot of alu my last run HAHA

[delicate relic]

ohh thats obivious!

[cobalt rivet]

Ull be rich

Taranite is abundant

Oh wait

[delicate relic]

haha,

I saw that!

[cobalt rivet]

Its atacamite

Nvm

Fir sone reason i thought it was taranite

Scratch that thought

[delicate relic]

what is atacamite, I dont see it on the minables list unless I am blind

[cobalt rivet]

Thats just a rock type i think

[ivory gust]

Atacamite is the type of deposit, taranite is the ore you mine

[cobalt rivet]

I blew up a rock while someone was standing on it

They didnt die

[delicate relic]

ahh so I can still get the stuff he was saying from taht rock?

and it is kinda worth it?

as far as trash rocks go?

[cobalt rivet]

Forget what i said

[delicate relic]

but see what chris responded with above?

[cobalt rivet]

I mistook a rock name

It would be a waste of time

Junk rocks arent even worth the gas

[delicate relic]

is there a way to tell rocks with out knowing color when in scanning mode vs mining mode?

[ivory gust]

Yes, need to be very close. Go scan mode, point reticle straight at rock, hold left mouse button down

It'll tell you rock type and all the details

[delicate relic]

ahh ok thanks!

[neon shale]

What would be more consistent and wel earning? Cargo hauling with the atm free Carrack or mining and killing in mines with just some backpacks and a good carrying ship?

[glacial dagger]

Depends. If you dint mind a bit more of a slog, hauling is much safer than bunk busting or cave clearing. However bunkers and caves are more engaging, you can probably spam them out a little bit, and if you take your time and loot the corpses completely, including in individual armour pieces, you can get a fair bit of hand minables as well

[neon shale]

Can I sell the gear for decent numbers?

[glacial dagger]

You could loot the gear as well. I would reccomend getting yoru hands on a 1-2 SCU container and a tractor tool as well so you can loot the bodies and put everythign into the container 😄

[neon shale]

Where do I sell the gear and loot?

[glacial dagger]

the gear and loot are from the bodies and lootable containers found in the bunkers and caves, along with stuff from the bodies as well

To get your hands on a 1-2 SCU container, simply put a couple of large items, like ship componants, into a small expendable ship, set yoru spawn to a station, fly the ship out and kill yourself

Then claim the ship at the terminal, gear up in your actual gear, call out your actual ship and fly out to the old now claimed one

Blow that up and everythgin inside it's inventory shoudl be stored inside a container box

The box size will depend on how much you had inside the ship, hence the ship componants

Once you have popped the ship, simply either scoop up the container with yoru ship or use the tractor tool to bring it inside

[neon shale]

Can't I just buy some backpacks and bring it that way? I heard those glitches were risky.

Or is this not a glitch.. still a pain tho.

[cyan mountain]

It's actually a game feature

Lmao

[glacial dagger]

You can, but you wont be able to store much armour in there

[cyan mountain]

For now at least

[glacial dagger]

It's not a glitch, it's an indended feature so you can still potentially get yoru stuff back if your ship gets destroied

It also means Pirates might be able to blow up your ship to get your stored items

I heard this guy going off on global chat about how he had just finished a 3 hour ROC mining trip and hald spend a good 5-10 mins loading everything into his cutty black. I tracked him down pretty quickly considering he said the area he was gonna be in and gunned him down

No comms, so no CS either

2SCU container spawned in and I managed to tractor it up into my ship before he got back

Landed in the armistice zone, transferred everythign from the container to my ship and went to sell at the mining station

Guy would have made a solid 400-500k if he hadn't blabbed about it

The salt from that farm was...delicious

@neon shale Does the crate solution make sense though?

[neon shale]

Kinda does but I honestly don't like the idea, that's me though.

[glacial dagger]

What don't you like about it?

[neon shale]

Idk, having to die feels like it's a small exploit.

[glacial dagger]

The death parth is jsut another way for it

You could have a friend do some shuttling for you inf you really want to 😄

[north oyster]

That’s why I do all my ROC mining off channel and never near an outpost. Prospector mining I don’t worry about because the Halo is vast enough

[glacial dagger]

The important part is the claim

[glacial dagger]

Yup

I made the mistake of advertising my ROC mining exactly once, and it was close enough to death that I wont do it again

Thank god for the Valks pretty tough shields and hull hp

[meager gorge]

Very cool!

[glacial dagger]

Indeed. You can fit 2 in there even 😄

[north oyster]

Valkyrie is an awesome ROC escort, I use the MAX mainly because of fuel and size

[glacial dagger]

Technically youl could fit 4, but I dont know why anyone would need to do that

[meager gorge]

I use the typical cutty black and haven’t ventured out

[glacial dagger]

I went ROC mining yesterday with about 5 buddies. The primary ROC shuttle was the Drake Catapliiar, the scouts were Drake Cutlass Blacks

If the Cat couldn't find a nice ledge to help scoop up the ROCs, the cutties could air lift the ROCs and bring them up to the Cat

I cant wait for the Cat's doors to be able to be lifts as well

[north oyster]

Ah, I was wondering

[glacial dagger]

Cat willbecome the prime small ground vehicle mover, complete with living space and everything 😄

[north oyster]

Soon(tm)

[glacial dagger]

Unfortunatly the ROC,s mining and collection beams cant pass though the ships shields, even when their turned off

probably due to different 'grids' being in effect

Otherwise we could have legit stuck to just the cat and maybe some Dragon flies for scouts or something

[north oyster]

My future carrier is going to be the Liberator

Not necessarily for ROC though

MAX is just fine in that role

[meager gorge]

This is so cool, I want to do this now.

[glacial dagger]

Do it man. It's pretty dam fun. just make sure to maybe keep your cutlass lifts somewhat close to you, as we made the mistake of having both cutlasses out at the same time scouting. They both found a 6 cluster of hadanite pretty mcuh one after another, emaning we had no way of getting the ROCs back into the Cat without ditching one of the clusters. That was a painful but fun 12km drive in a ROC

[meager gorge]

I’m gonna make this happen when I get back from deployment hahahah. I don’t have a cat but I have a carrack, which I think can fit a few roc’s. Could the cat have picked them up?

[glacial dagger]

Carrack can indeed hold 2 ROCs. I have access to a C2 as well, so we could have used that but I didn't want to just use the easy option

[neon shale]

Was the run profitable btw?

[glacial dagger]

If your down for a group try out for this, feel free to hit me up, our group are planning to do it again at sompoint

[glacial dagger]

Lets see. 5 people across about 3ish hours with a total cargo selling...800k?

So just under 200k per person

Defo profitable

For sure, not the most profitable, but still pretty dam good

[neon shale]

But that's with lots of work, just imagine new players like me having to grind.

[glacial dagger]

I think the most efficient set up I know of is a C2 with 2x Rocs and a Pisces as the scout ship

[neon shale]

I'll just try some things out for now.

[glacial dagger]

Nahh bro, it really doesn't take much effort

[neon shale]

3hours tho

[glacial dagger]

We were more than happy to just chill

That wasn't even at mas effort output

We took breaks

We chatted

We messed around without actually doing anything

IN total, it was probably closer to about 2 hours of actual work

Some of our scouts decided to do some low flying while waiting as we worked on a 15 cluster we found. They litterally skimmed my ROC at one point

[meager gorge]

Awesome I added you, Well make it happen. I have a C2 and a Pisces if you wanna try that method too! I don’t have a cat on the other hand.

[neon shale]

Is there a max amount of people in a party?

Since I'm new and apart from the free vehicles rn only own the aurora.
I wouldn't want to intrude on someones spot,,

[meager gorge]

I’m not even super worried about min maxing my profits, fun > profits. I’d rather make 200k over 500k if it means having a good time with some people and doing some cool plan is fun too instead of just your typical solo prospector mining or roc mining. Half the time the most fun part of this game is making your own content with others and a roc mining fleet with a mother ship sounds awesome ahah

[elfin heath]

Does your ship need to be in terminal storage to switch out mining modules or can it be done on the fly if they're in the ships inventory?

[glacial dagger]

Negatory. You can have every singel person able to be in the server in one big party. Pips can start to get a little laggy though 😄

[glacial dagger]

Currently yes, your ship needs to be in storage to change modules

[neon shale]

I run a 3070 so I'll be fine with a few, whole server is another story though xD

[elfin heath]

Okay, thanks!

[glacial dagger]

Nahh, I'm talking like parties of well over 60 people

Considering ther server limits are curretnly 110, you should be mroe than fine

God, imagine having a party of 60 and all doinig ROC mining at the same time on the same server

The logistics for that would be a nightmare but super fun to get sorted 😄

[neon shale]

Can you also take 3 missions and split ur team to finish them at the same time?
Now in the end the efficiency would be the same as a 1 person on 1 mission so it'd be ineffective I guess..

[glacial dagger]

Depending on the mission, indeed

You could take on three different bunkers on Hurston, split into 3 2 man teams and pretty much wipe all three bunkers at the same time

It's how some or my org mates and I get rep and money so easily, we jsut piggy back on eachothers missions 😄

Miners will send the combat guys some money from their mining profits to suppliment the revenue loss from the contract being shared

[meager gorge]

This is genius

[glacial dagger]

It's a pretty sweet way of earning rep without earning the rep

Everyone wins in the end

[meager gorge]

Yah I like the idea

[serene quest]

Belt seems pretty stable rn

not too many ghosts, and pulled a 42% rock within 2 minutes of jumping out of QT

[jovial matrix]

Nice

[normal flax]

Defo gonna be noob of me to ask but is there any ship better at mining than Prospector or is that the shit right now.

[bold yew]

For solo, ya prospector.

If you have more than one person or just like to screw aroudnd with it mole is fun.

Although I hear people can actually make money using the ROC now, but I have not tried it in a long time. Is fun to have options.

[ivory gust]

In future, have scouts pick up a delivery mission and grab the box. Can leave the delivery box somewhere as a way point marker

[elfin heath]

Question, Does the prospector have a know issues of not registering its fuel resulting in not allowing you to refuel when it has modules attached? I started using modules for the first time today & since noticed i have issues refuelling my ship which results in me having to server hop for the server to register what my HUD is displaying? (Half empty fuel)

[serene quest]

This is big brain. Been doin that for a while.

[serene quest]

Where are you refueling?

[ivory gust]

There's just a general bug now where places don't always refuel you

[serene quest]

What @ivory gust said. Generally I find it best to refit/fuel at Lagrange points

[elfin heath]

ARC-L1, Never had issues prior to using modules that's why i assumed it was related

[ivory gust]

Can try using an open pad instead of the hangar to refuel, that usually works for me

[serene quest]

ah could just be the ship then

that too

pads are usually to the left of the hangars

[elfin heath]

Has this showed up as of this patch or been around in the past? again i never had this issue before today

[serene quest]

at Arc L1

it's pretty common

[ivory gust]

It's new I think, but yeah pretty common

[serene quest]

if you still can't refuel, remove your mods, and selfdestruct your ship

thenc laim

[elfin heath]

Pretty common at ARC-L1 or just in general

[serene quest]

in general

[elfin heath]

& I can't really use the pads cause when i come back my ship is full of quant and goes into storage

i only try refuel before leaving for my next mining trip

[serene quest]

sry confused by this

when you leave the hangar

just swing to your right

there should be a pad

land and refuel there

[elfin heath]

Meh, seems like effort!

[serene quest]

true, but when you can't refuel at all... lol

[elfin heath]

I'd rather space swim

[serene quest]

worst case scenario is a boat issue

[elfin heath]

to my quant

and hand mine it

that accept another shitty bug

😅

[serene quest]

and the issue is with the ship itself

at which point you just junk and destroy it

[ivory gust]

Leave hangar, stop at pad, refuel there

They're not "usually to the right", at ARC L1 they're "below" the normal hangars and closer to the station core

[serene quest]

there are also a bottom set of hangars, I guess I was referring to those

[ivory gust]

Normal hangars are on the "ring", pads are on struts sticking out "below" the ring

[glacial dagger]

This is semi viable, but could also tank people's rep for un delivered missions

[ivory gust]

Use the "Research" probe deployment mission then since that rep isn't relevant

[serene quest]

use the research mission instead

[glacial dagger]

True, but how often can you get those?

[ivory gust]

Also, Carrack can fit 4 ROCs easily

[serene quest]

like all the time

[ivory gust]

Always, they're always available for me

[serene quest]

^

[glacial dagger]

Sweet

[ivory gust]

If doing cave missions, don't bother with looting gear. Just loot the gems from each person you kill (either in their chest piece or backpack), loot any crates you find around to look for gems and cool helmets, and move on

[ivory gust]

Should clarify: always available when near a planet

[glacial dagger]

True. Can you have multiple of this on the go though?

[serene quest]

Speaking of which. Have you ever come across special backpacks while doing these?

[ivory gust]

Nope, not that I can recall. Mostly helmets, some arms and legs

[serene quest]

gotcha

[ivory gust]

Not sure

[elfin heath]

Or i ring up Chris Roberts, Tell him to fix the game, Problem solved!

😆

[ivory gust]

Good luck with that. Fixes for bugs tend to be measured in "years" not "weeks"

[elfin heath]

So i just rang Chris, Funny story... It was a short one! He said It's a feature & put the phone down 🤨

[misty coyote]

When I called he said "It works on my machine"

[normal flax]

When I called him i got Dell Tech Support so I think I fucked something up

[elfin heath]

Is there any way to tell how many uses your modules have left, the ones equipped on your ship?

I know it's 5 total but i've lost track of how many of each i have used

[ivory gust]

If you're in mining mode, I've heard you can look up at the top panel in the Prospector

The floating text for the module buttons will show the remaining uses

[elfin heath]

I will have a look now & let you know, i was only looking where the module text was where it shows %'s & so on

[north oyster]

I’ll check that next time I’m in saddle to make sure that is still true

I always outfit two surges, so I don’t even track any longer

[elfin heath]

I got a (Torpid - BrandT - Stamped) Combo in that order, rn i'm using the BrandT the most

Then torp & only used stamped twice just to use it, not cause it was needed, also tried surge but i feel i will need that less, tbh surge is only needed if you're in a rush / impatient

Nothing indicates the uses left

[ivory gust]

Surge is absolutely 100% required to break rocks bigger than ~5500 mass

[elfin heath]

🧢

I've done plenty without it

Might be preference but to say it's required is wrong

[ivory gust]

6k mass? 7k mass? I don't believe you

[elfin heath]

I legit just cracked a almost 6k rock

used 2 Brandt & 1 Torpid

[ivory gust]

"almost 6k" doesn't really cover the good stuff on Lyria though

[elfin heath]

I'm mining in the belt

I used to do Lyria

But i find rocks quicker in the belt

a ton quicker

[ivory gust]

Oh, if you're in the belt, then you don't need any modules, and the max rock size is only like 5200

[elfin heath]

🧢

I'll record if i come over one over 5200 again

Probably will this run

[elfin heath]

& tbh you don't need modules in a lot of cases, they're just for convenience, more times you will come across rocks you can crack without them than with at least from my experience

[ivory gust]

Modules are absolutely 100% required to break the big things on Lyria. If you enjoy finding big rocks full of Quant and not being able break them alone, then yeah, you can skip modules on Lyria

Halo, again, it doesn't matter, you can break everything without modules

[dreamy river]

Going to lyria to mine without at least one surge is heading for heartbreak lol

[elfin heath]

I get what you mean, lyria for sure got the bigger rocks and if you're doing group mining or mole then go there but for a solo miner just chilling the belt is where its at

No point cracking massive rocks on lyria like 8k mass if i can't carry half of it 😂

[dreamy river]

There absolutely is

[ivory gust]

Belt has too many unscannables, Lyria is best

[dreamy river]

If it fills my hull it’s worth cracking.

[elfin heath]

I never used modules before today, i used gadgets last few days but got tired of time wasting, now i've used modules i'll never go back & the gadgets i got will probably collect dust

[dreamy river]

Yea I tried the gadgets when they first released

Too much hassle tbh

[elfin heath]

I've done 2-3 runs quicker than i could find 1 load on Lyria, from my experience for a solo miner belt is better, quicker to get to & easier to scout

[ivory gust]

Then you are either very bad at scouting on Lyria or very lucky in the belt or both

[elfin heath]

Yup, If you value your time go for modules

[dreamy river]

I have no experience in the halo but it rarely takes me more than a few minutes to fill up on lyria

Tuning ping angle is meta

[elfin heath]

I've ran Lyria 100s of times, for sure not a case of bad, Mining is mostly RNG but again from my experience the belt i can get full loads quicker than on lyria & back to refinery

I go where the money is at, i'm a solo miner & not a fan boy

[elfin heath]

Yup

[ivory gust]

Well, I upgraded to a Mole anyway, so Lyria only real option

[dreamy river]

Nice

[ivory gust]

Since Mole can't scan effectively in belt

[dreamy river]

I just find the whole moon mining experience to be way less hassle. Less non-scanning rocks, closer to the station, easier to navigate etc

[elfin heath]

For multi crew or multiple miner 100% Lyria but that ain't my thing, i enjoy solo mining tbh

[elfin heath]

That's interesting you say that cause for me it's the opposite

I understand the belt has exclusive bugs only found here but i've mined 100s of times on Lyria & find rocks way quicker in the belt personally

[ivory gust]

Only problem with Lyria mining imo is the blindingly bright surface

I wish I could tint the windows

[elfin heath]

Bruh, It's toxic

I actually forgot about that but that's a good point

[ivory gust]

Mole better solo than Prospector, 96 > 32

[elfin heath]

I would never solo mine a mole personally, you need bare minimal 2 to be time effective, all that time switching seat i'll be back in the belt getting another full load 😆

[ivory gust]

You only need to switch seats twice per large rock you mine, at most

Given how much travel/refinery overhead there already is, switching seats adds very little overhead

[elfin heath]

How much time quant is refining for is irrelevant

The only thing that really matters is how much you can haul back in X amount of time

[ivory gust]

Not the time it takes to refine, I meant the time to travel to the refinery and back

Adding 40 seconds of seat switching overhead when there's already 10 minutes of travel overhead is absolutely worth it to allow you to bring back larger loads

[normal ravine]

Does this actually work?https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/xc774j/mining_with_a_cutlass_yes/

mining out the side doors with roc

[fluid pendant]

yes....

in fact you can hand mine an astriod 😛

[elfin heath]

Why mine it when you can just push it back to the refinery!

[fluid pendant]

why do you think they dont have tractor beams on stuff yet 😛

[elfin heath]

All those mining orgs legit shifting the belt

[ivory gust]

Not on the rock they're showing, that's not the kind of deposit that ROCs mine

[fluid pendant]

just redirect the refinery into an orbit which just chomps the belt up like pacman

[ivory gust]

I'm more curious as to how they managed to get a ROC-DS into a cutlass

[fluid pendant]

RAMMING SPEED!!!!!!!!!

[elfin heath]

Just take your cutty black to space with a ROC in the back & you can mine 10k quant deposits for days

[serene quest]

All i'm trying to do is complete a damn cave mission!

sry didn't mean to reply to that lol

I got 30k'd out of the first one, then crashed to desktop on the second

[vestal ravine]

I don't see a rock in the image is there more pictures or a video would be nice. I've had my roc jammed all off center in the Cutty so if I had opened the side doors that may help. Using the laser off the back ramp not always viable with surrounding terrain an issue. Needs more research. This ship is not in space for Halo mining nor could you mine a gem from that height.

[ivory gust]

The second image in the gallery shows the laser hitting a very large rock

[vestal ravine]

Ohhh that's cute! Sorry didn't pick up on a second image.

[elfin heath]

With a surge module can i hit alt+1 twice back to back to get 2 uses or do i need a second surge in the next module slot?

The effect said instant on the website so i assume i only need the 1?

[ivory gust]

There's a ~20second wait before you can use the same module again

[elfin heath]

Ah, So it's probably recommended to have 2 on my ship

[ivory gust]

Yep, although not needed, some people like to use just one and wait

[elfin heath]

Going back to Lyria to see what i can find, Tried doing a 7k rock but forgot to change my loadout of modules

[elfin heath]

Yeah that's not a bad idea, i guess if i can maintain the level for at least 20 seconds im good

Guess i will just have to test it, see how it goes

[ivory gust]

you won't be able to maintain the level, but you don't need to--I've never seen a rock that needed two full surges, it's usually "surge, let the power level drop so you won't overshoot with the second, surge again"

[elfin heath]

I'm taking a surge & stamped, any recommendation on the third?

[ivory gust]

Some people like to use an Optimum, you can't use it at the same time as the Stampede, but some people prefer embiggening the optimal window instead of speeding up the completion with the stampede

[elfin heath]

Optimum is active though

From my understanding you can stack a passive on a active

nvm

Gona test a surge, stamped & brandt

[ivory gust]

Stampede and Brandt won't stack

You really don't need Brandt with a Lancet

[elfin heath]

I know but i will find more usage in that than a torpid on Lyria

It's a good backup, mostly only seeing myself use the first 2

[ivory gust]

you don't need either. surge and stampede does it

[elfin heath]

I mean, i have a third slot

I'm gona use it 😅

[ivory gust]

i usually bring two surges so I don't have to wait out the 20second cooldown and also so I don't accidentally run out after the first charge

Often takes more than 2 surge charges to get it in the right place, until you get more experience

[elfin heath]

I mean i did just mention brining 2 & you said something different

[ivory gust]

I agreed with you that it was recommended, but not needed

[elfin heath]

Let's see how this goes

Fingers crossed i find another 7k rock again off the rip

[spring prism]

@elfin trench If you're wondering. When you open up the trade routes page. Select the ship and how much your UEC Budget is, then hit submit: https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes

Anything highlighted in yellow will mean that the trading post might be a hot place for people to go to. Or the trading terminal doesn't have enough stock to fill your ship.

[elfin trench]

So you know where it says jumptown and the bottom it has places, what does the mean?

[spring prism]

That's where it is. The first one on the left, "Stanton" is the Solar System

[elfin trench]

Yup

[spring prism]

The middle is the Planet, and the right one is the moon.

Meaning it's actually on Yela, not crusader

[elfin trench]

So crusader is where i have to pick up the cargo? or buy it?

and the drop of point is Yela?

[spring prism]

Also, if you don't want to deal with illegal trading/smuggling, I'd recommend changing commodities so you don't allow vices:

[spring prism]

No, the place is on Yela

Where you pick it up

The right side of the rectangle is where you drop it off; which is the "No Questions Asked" Trading Console on CRU-L5

[elfin trench]

ok and for the pick on yela can i just buy it anywhere on yela?

[spring prism]

It specifically is at that place on Yela, which is Jumptown

Meaning you go to Jumptown, on Yela, to pick it up/buy the cargo

[elfin trench]

Oooo ok thank you now i get it

[serene quest]

this fucking game

crashed to desktop in the middle of a cave mission, come back in the station, in bed, in a gown

[elfin trench]

Hey I have a quick question, do I have to store my ship in order to sell cargo?

[ivory gust]

I don't think so--on second thought, definitely not, I've done it without storing

[elfin trench]

Is the trading Console a different thing from the “no question asked” console?

[ivory gust]

Yes

[elfin trench]

Ahh ok

Where is that one normally located on stations

[ivory gust]

the no questions asked console is for illegal stuff--I wouldn't know, I'm not a criminal

[elfin trench]

Surely thanks

[sleek torrent]

So I found the yellow crate. Can’t pick it up, have to either pull/push it or tractor beam it. It’s got the drug symbol on it. Can’t seem to figure out where to sell it tho. Even got pulled over by security and they didn’t see it in there scan. Is this even something I can sell?

[delicate girder]

It used to be the case that you could mine with a ROC right off the back of a Nomad without driving it off. Is that still the case?

Also saw this and am highly skeptical that you could get a ROC-DS into a Cuttie: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/xc774j/mining_with_a_cutlass_yes/

But I really want to try it soon anyway.

[glacial dagger]

So long as you dont have the same 'mining-beam-cant-go-outside-of-the-ship-space' bug that the Cat has. Tried taking a couple of ROCs out with the Cat a few days ago and found out that the beam doesn't go beyond the ships exterior.

[delicate girder]

Did you try turning off the shields?

[glacial dagger]

First thing we tried

Technically it worked if you drive the ROC right out onto the edge of the platform, but that's sketch as hell

[delicate girder]

I'm also going to try putting a ROC-DS on Nomad and not running the bed up. Never tried that before.

I think the bed in wide enough.

[glacial dagger]

I think it's more a case of length

[delicate girder]

Yeah, I bet.

[glacial dagger]

Pretty sure the ROC is just the right size for the Nomad, the ROC-DS is too long, I think

[ivory gust]

I've seen pictures of a DS in the nomad

[delicate girder]

The Nomad is amazing!

If the DS would stay on the Nomad and the mining turret could deploy (bigger if), I bet on ship mining may be possible (with two player of course).

[unkempt meadow]

so i have a issue where the moles windows are really scratched so i cant see what the hell I'm mining please help

[topaz burrow]

mole's windows do get extra wear and tear. Not much you can do. Repairing removes it, but the wear and tear is cranked up to the max currently for testing of it

when in turret hit shift to zoom in, it's a little more bearable

[unkempt meadow]

hahah ok thanks

[plucky horizon]

How do you avoid wear and tear because sometimes after I repair my ship and take of the window is pretty messed up

[delicate girder]

If you have a decent PC it may be an option to use Reshade to lessen the window glare.

[unkempt meadow]

i have another question... i just filled up my freelancer max with cargo.. the ship was floating so i killed myself now i retrieved my ship and my cargo is gone

[glacial dagger]

Dont use the ship

[glacial dagger]

Yup

[unkempt meadow]

awwwww no really

[plucky horizon]

Easy fix!

[glacial dagger]

So you claimed your ship with essentially deletes everythign inside

[topaz burrow]

when claim, you get brand new ship from insurance.

[unkempt meadow]

awwwwwww noooooo its was fullll of quant

[glacial dagger]

Note to self, when parking up, always remember to turn your engines off with 'I'

[topaz burrow]

now is full of air 😄

[unkempt meadow]

this took me a week to mine

damn

[plucky horizon]

Why

What happened

[topaz burrow]

ship can be blown away by wind or when recalled it might be floating

[glacial dagger]

So yoru ship doesn't get carried away by the wind

[unkempt meadow]

I'm new to the mining scene so I'm still learning

[topaz burrow]

are you EU based?

[glacial dagger]

S'all good. Sorry you had to lose your cargo to learn this lession

[plucky horizon]

I tought that if you keep ship turned on it doesn't harry potter away

[delicate girder]

You'll be much faster next time now that you know how to mine and know to not claim your ship.

[topaz burrow]

nah engines provide thrust. no engines means its parked

[plucky horizon]

Ohh

[unkempt meadow]

From South Afrika

[plucky horizon]

Turn off engines not ship

[unkempt meadow]

well back to Mining

[glacial dagger]

'I' not 'U'

[unkempt meadow]

ok so with the Misc Freelancer what kit must i use

[delicate girder]

For what use?

[unkempt meadow]

so now i want to mine Ores

[ivory gust]

Only thing you need to change is the quantum drive, get an XL-1

Freelancer can't mine...

[marble crater]

you can cram a ROC in the Freelancer & use that

[ivory gust]

Not for ores

[delicate girder]

Only Prospector or Mole can mine big rocks.

[unkempt meadow]

ag sorry Prospector

[delicate girder]

Didn't think a ROC would fit in a regular Freelancer.

[ivory gust]

Lancet MH1 and a Spectre QD

[ivory gust]

It does, barely

[marble crater]

it's a pain but it works

the struts on the rear door are the biggest hurdle

[delicate girder]

My favorite vehicle for the ROC is still the Nomad.

[marble crater]

I have a Nomad but hate how the nose pulls down, hope they fix it

they fixed it on the Cutty at least so I have hope

[delicate girder]

Does it do that even when the "gear" is up?

[marble crater]

yeah it pulls down in full flight mode

[ivory gust]

The issue on IC is marked as fixed in 3.18

[delicate girder]

I have a stick setup and don't usually experience that. Wonder if my stick is helping somehow.

[marble crater]

I have sticks as well

[ivory gust]

It only happens above about 300m/s

[delicate girder]

I really like that CIG seems vary focused on actually fixing bugs lately. I have a dream that elevators will get fully fixed some day.

[ivory gust]

But go in atmosphere, point nose level, set cruise control at about 350m/s, take hands off controls, and watch as it tries to kill you

[marble crater]

yeah I use it for bunkers & ROC mining but think i'll melt it for something else if the fix is in 3.18

[delicate girder]

I don't use cruise control.

[ivory gust]

Melt it for a Reliant, get the nomad back anyway as a loaner. Two for one!

[marble crater]

not a bad idea

was thinking Freelancer for the Arrow loaner

the size 1 QT drive on the Nomad is also a bit "meh"

[delicate girder]

That's just a loaner in AC right?

[marble crater]

can use in PU as well

but it's main use is for AC yes

[delicate girder]

Really? Why would you get a loaner for a ship which is out?

[ivory gust]

It's the way the loaner system currently works. Even if a loaner is "for AC" you still get it in the real world

[marble crater]

yeah loaners are basically just a free ship to use until the game is out

[ivory gust]

In the case of the Reliants they're giving a Nomad loaner currently because the Reliants have so many bugs

[marble crater]

wasn't aware of the Reliant bug loaner though, pretty cool

[ivory gust]

It's a relatively recent change

[marble crater]

think the Khartu Al also has a bug loaner

[delicate girder]

Even a Reliant Kore?

[ivory gust]

Yep, Talon

[ivory gust]

Yes, any Reliant. https://support.robertsspaceindustries.com/hc/en-us/articles/360003093114-Loaner-Ship-Matrix

[delicate girder]

I had no idea you got the loaners in the PU too. That's until the game goes live?

[marble crater]

yep so only for the next 5-7 years

[delicate girder]

LOL!

[ivory gust]

That seems... Optimistic

[marble crater]

I upgraded my Taurus to a Corsair purely for the Loaners lol

[ivory gust]

Aquila worse than Taurus tho

[marble crater]

nah I much prefer the cockpit

[ivory gust]

Barely half the cargo

[marble crater]

idc about the cargo

96 scu is plenty for me doing quant runs

the bars of steel however is not ok

and a Bucc which I enjoy using

[ivory gust]

Roll cage, for safety when it tips forward because they forgot a front landing gear

[zinc tendon]

Is mining still broken at the moment?

[glacial dagger]

Defo not

[zinc tendon]

Bet

[glacial dagger]

Mining is very much working

Sure, there are still some ghost rocks,b ut that's kinda jsut on par for now

[zinc tendon]

Yeah that's just life at this point. I know a couple of months back there was a patch that just completely shot mining cuz none of the numbers that it displayed were correct. You had no idea what you were getting

[void lava]

which type of misssions should i do im kinda of a returning player?

[barren marsh]

Whatever is fun for you. I like FPS missions and BH. My buddy likes to run boxes in the 890.

[plush maple]

I've been having a UI glitch where my Quant converts to inert materials while mining

It's not real and the Quant is still there when I get to the refinery but has anyone else experienced this?

[void lava]

yeah but like what pays the best?

[plush maple]

Also hello fellow stitch

[barren marsh]

Group ERT BH I believe

[void lava]

sorry what does BRT stand for?

like group bountyhunting?

[magic shard]

extreme rated threat or something like that. The first letter is for the difficulty, ranging from very low to extreme. BH is bounty hunting. Per hour it pays most, but you need to grind your way up both in the quest line and in your equipment.

[normal flax]

I dont understand what loaner ships are or how that works

I hear about it all the time

[glacial dagger]

Essentially, if you have a ship that's either still in concept or doesn't really have any decent fighting value, loaner ships can be temporarily applied to your account to make up for any short combings

The loners for the Hull D is a Catapillar and a C2

[normal flax]

But thats if you own a Hull D?

[glacial dagger]

yup

Also, loners dont stack, so if I had 4 Hull D's I would get 4 cats and 4 C2s

!loaners

[normal flax]

Ohhhh so basically if you pre-order a ship not out yet you get those in place for time being

[glacial dagger]

Yup

[normal flax]

Gotcha

[glacial dagger]

Here's the current list of ships and their loaners
https://support.robertsspaceindustries.com/hc/en-us/articles/360003093114-Loaner-Ship-Matrix

Obvs some ships dont have loaners as their already fully in the game

[normal flax]

WHAAAAAAAAATTTT

I dont think I've ever dropped $600 on pixels before but this could be a first

When its available

[glacial dagger]

And I own 2 of them

You can get one in the Company pack, Preatorian pack (th $14k one) or you can try and get one via Grey market

In terms of when will it be in game, probably not until much closer to SQ42

[normal flax]

I'm fine dropping $600. Not 14k lmao

[idle yacht]

So I loaded my refined quant in the M2, then the hangar elevator bugged and does not let me out of it and now the ship despawned and it's in Unknown status.
Did I lose everything or is there a fix for that?

[glacial dagger]

I thin kthe Company pack is like...$1200?

[glacial dagger]

Unfortunatly so

You can try using NikNax to try and find it, but I think it's gone bud

[idle yacht]

...

[glacial dagger]

Sorry

Game bugs can be pretty heart breaking sometimes

[idle yacht]

Yeah, I had many so far. This one really got me. I had so much stuff

[glacial dagger]

Had jsut under 3mill worth of quant mined out over an 8 hour period and refined for 3 days go poof as I was in quantum

[idle yacht]

I was trying to make money for my prospector, rented one for 3 days, mined like crazy and now it's gone

[glacial dagger]

I reccomend doing combat missions until you have the aUEC to buy a prospector in game anyway

Or better yet, try and get one irl

[idle yacht]

Exchange rate is too high rn. Election year in Brazil >.<

[glacial dagger]

Oof, yh, that's fair bud

[burnt storm]

1700usd

[glacial dagger]

Yooof, so that's probably closer to what, £1500?

Dam I was drunk that night when I got that and the Escort pack...

[burnt storm]

you can also get it in the $2500 tycoon pack

[normal flax]

Yeah ill wait still standalone purchase comes again

[burnt storm]

might be available in IAE

which is in november

[glacial dagger]

Yh, it will likely come around again during IAE

[gaunt fiber]

You can try spawning and storing another ship then go back to the ASOP terminal and check to see if you still need to claim. This trick has worked for me when I was in a similar situation.

[idle yacht]

oh that was a good idea. Sadly I already claimed it and it's gone

[elfin heath]

If you had to reclaim it then the chances are it's gone 😕

Nvm, didn't see the most recent message, forgot to scroll down

[normal flax]

I'm not gonna take chances with Grey Market so yeah ill wait

[winter fiber]

what ships have sensor dampened cargo bays?

[worthy scroll]

MSR and Taurus for sure. I don't know if any others do.

[winter fiber]

Thanks

[worthy scroll]

That isn't a working thing yet though.

[winter fiber]

Oh ok

[worthy scroll]

I'd say there's a possibility of it showing up in 3.18 when the cargo refactor comes. Since with that, we'll be able to place cargo ourselves, giving you the ability to actually place cargo in those areas.

[winter fiber]

I see I see appreciate it

[indigo fox]

I bought a Pyro multi tool to use go do some hand mining. I put it in my inventory. And now when I landed at the spot I wanted to go mining, I see my multi tool is not in my inventory now. Am I doing something wrong?

[elfin heath]

What is this?

[elfin heath]

Is it on your leg?

[ivory gust]

What inventory did you put it in? If you put it in the "Local" inventory at the station or city where you bought it, that inventory is only accessible at that location. You need to put it on your leg or in your backpack to carry it with you

[indigo fox]

Ohhhh. That’s probably what I did wrong. I just put it on the inventory that’s on the right side of the screen. I’m guessing that wasn’t the right spot.

[ivory gust]

Nope

[rugged axle]

That was probably local. If you fly back it'll be there waiting on you lol

[analog garnet]

What’s generally a good plan for trading? I’ve got a Taurus I’ve been using for like a small hq and I’m curious about trying the freight side of things

[thin escarp]

@idle yachtid try server hoppinh

to fix that bug

[real gale]

i just lost a c2 filled with laranite/titanium aswell due to game crashing just as i went into the airlock at bezdak

[real gale]

server hopping fixes that? havent claimed it yet, went to bezdak to check and it wasnt there

[idle yacht]

I did not try server hopping, I had already claimed the empty ship 😦

[real gale]

i just tried server hopping, it doesnt work

[thin escarp]

@real gale he had different circumstances than you my friend

where did it say your ship was wrekka

[real gale]

Bezdak

status Unkown

[thin escarp]

yeah..

if you coulda got into same server you probs woulda been ok

[real gale]

yeah 😦 ill just retire cargo hauling for now i guess

[delicate girder]

Cargo hauling is especially risky during a free fly I'd say.

[real gale]

yeah..

[delicate relic]

Anyone know of any more recent offical news about the tali base maybe getting a medical or salvage module other then then tiny footnote about the possibility of them in the original modules post?

[ivory gust]

They haven't said anything about modularity any time recently afaik

[delicate relic]

k. thos 2 modules would be big for my stupid game plan in my head for years down the road when the game might be released LOL.

[worthy scroll]

Modularity is probably something quite a ways off. It's something I'm waiting on as well, because a lot of the ships I plan on having in my fleet are meant to be modular.

[delicate relic]

just hoping for some new info on them. Like I am still confused on the buks. I know what they are and how they work, but is rsi gonna use them or not, is the hoplite now moduler? ( its seems to have been updated to same module looking setup ) modular ships are awsome, but giving me a headache LOL.

[worthy scroll]

Most ships are purpose built for a task, some are going to be modular, so their roles can change.