industrial-professions

[serene quest]

nah this is outrageous

11 scannables

zero now

that was after QT'ing to a new location

an even denser one

welp there goes any money I was trying to make today

3 bands

same problem

[rugged axle]

I dont quite understand. Are you saying all the rocks are ghost rocks?

I pulled 1mil out of the halo this morning. Yes there alot of ghost rocks, you just keep going. Eventually you'll find a good rock. I search about 10 minutes, if don't find one worth mining. I jump 20-30km and go again.

I tested out literally not moving. Just qt, 360. If there's not a q rock, qt again. Found a bunch of 15-20% that way lol

With the current state of the halo, I've lowered my expectations and I'm fine with mining all the 15-20s instead of trying to wait for a 30-40%

[ivory gust]

Did you try before or after free fly started?

[rugged axle]

What time did the ff start est? Lol. It was between like...12:30 and 2ish est

[ivory gust]

FF started around noon est

[cyan juniper]

Is anyone taking advantage of the free Carrack to move a bunch of cargo this week? I’m hoping it will be too cost prohibitive to the free trial players for them to be much of a problem for stock.

[rugged axle]

Then yes lol.

Kind of disappointed in the FF ships, I already have all of them except the scorpius. Probs end up flying it tonight cause I've never flown it. May end up pledging one if I like it

[north oyster]

I'll be sure to not try the "get out of the seat" trick then. I never worry about duds, I just run with active ping angle tuning. Since I know from about 10k it's no good, no waste of time

[serene quest]

correct

not even getting a scan tho

all prelim scans are showing blank readings @north oyster

travelled to 5 different boxes and all rocks were unscannable, got up sat down, they all disappeared

I'll try again tonight, I may even try to swap regions hoping for some downtime

[ivory gust]

Did you try switching servers?

[rugged axle]

Wait, why are you flying to rocks that are unscannable?

But yes, you can expect the halo to get worst the further into free fly we get. This weekend I wouldn't even bother trying.

[cerulean lichen]

Nothing like a game crash while transporting all the refined quant I had. 55 units worth just gone now. I had the landing pad in site too!

[fathom wind]

Just had a guy in a server earlier say the av equipment bug was back and convinced a couple people. Troll job or someone watched a few videos from the last free fly and got confused?

[ivory gust]

AV equipment shouldn't be in the game currently, so I'd wager troll job--unless he was saying there was a specific other commodity?

[modern gate]

Help I'm unable to sell refined ore at a trading station

I'm in Lorville

[ivory gust]

Then you're not at the right trading station. In Lorville you need to go to the Central Business District stop, then up the stairs and turn left

[hollow sedge]

is there limit to howmuch you can sell on Devlin?

[fallen atlas]

There's a limit to how much of a commodity you can sell at any location and it's across all servers

[cerulean lichen]

So got jumped by AI pirates halfway to the refinery. Lost about 23/32 worth of want in my prospector since I could jump away. Tonight was just not my night for mining

[modern gate]

@fallen atlas what's the limit :3

[fallen atlas]

It depends by location. !tradetools below will give the total limits, but that's not indicative of what they will actually buy.

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[fallen atlas]

If someone in any server just sold/bought a commodity there then everyone loses access to X amount(based on how much they bought/sold).

[frozen locust]

does the catapiller have a bigger cargo capactiy then a tarus concidering upgrading to it

[ivory gust]

https://uexcorp.space/ships

Shows cargo capacity of all the ships currently announced

[frozen locust]

oh thanks

[ivory gust]

(answer is yes, caterpillar has like...3x the capacity of the taurus, and is the 2nd highest capacity ship right now behind the c2)

[cobalt rivet]

C2 is chonk

[frozen locust]

tarus has 174 cat packs 564

jesus crust

thats like 4x

you could empty out a entire outpost with taht shit

[fallen atlas]

C2 best ship.

[cobalt rivet]

My c2 trying to take off

[frozen locust]

catapiillers reclaimer or the kraken trying to take off

[elfin heath]

Is there a good way to calculate how much money to expect from a single refine order of quant in the refinery terminal before delivering it?

[civic portal]

https://uexcorp.space/

[elfin heath]

I'm gona need a little more info than that 😅

[pearl mulch]

Whatever the number of refined quantium is multiplied by 88

A 3k load 3000 * 88 = 264000 credits

[elfin heath]

Well that was a extremely simplified version 👌 Just curious though which tab on that website do i use? I kinda want to get familiar with it as i already us the mining section now & then

[pearl mulch]

Idk I don't use that website personally

I find it easier to just do it manually

[elfin heath]

I guess you just x by 80 & bingo

[pearl mulch]

Yup

[elfin heath]

Makes sense

[pearl mulch]

88 not 80 but yea you get it :)

[elfin heath]

Yeah 88 i meant, MB 😄

Next question would be what is a good ship for hauling refined quant? Is there a good indicator for my ship storage vs how much a load will take up?

[ivory gust]

Depends on how much quant you have. If you're renting, Cutlass can carry 46 SCU (4600 units), and can be rented at the refinery itself. Freelancer 66 SCU and Andromeda 96 SCU, can be rented on some planets.

[elfin heath]

So Andomeda can carry 9600 Units?

[ivory gust]

yes

Long term, you'll probably want to buy your own hauler.

Worthwhile purchasing options:
Argo RAFT: 96 SCU, 1.9M aUEC
MISC Freelancer MAX: 120 SCU, 2.2M aUEC
RSI Constellation Taurus: 174 SCU, 3.3M aUEC
Drake Caterpillar: 564 SCU, 4.7M aUEC
Crusader C2 Hercules Starlifter: 696 SCU, 4.9M aUEC

[elfin heath]

Rn i only have 3 order loads & i have both a Cutlass & Andromeda, I think i'll use one of those for now until i invest into a C2

So correct me if i'm wrong, the C2 can carry 69600 Units?

[ivory gust]

correct

but that's a big risk in case something goes wrong, game crash or whatever

[elfin heath]

I doubt i would ever attempt to fill it up even if a 30k refunds me, It's more i would rather have to much space than not enough like in the cutty

It's either the C2 or Freelance Max for me 😅 Can't decide

[ivory gust]

Freelancer MAX is a solid choice. Not expensive and makes a decent small vehicle carrier too

[elfin heath]

I'm just watching some videos now & a downside i'm seeing to MAX is it's bad handling in atmo & at slow speeds, specially in atmo but the C2 apparently has not handling issues in atmo with a full load & or at slow speeds

🤨

[civic portal]

The C2 is handling reaaaaly good for a vessel that size.

[elfin heath]

That's what i'm seeing from these videos

According to YT it's the best handling large carrier/cargo atm

[ivory gust]

C2 has the most cargo of any ship currently available in game, and also has stupidly good handling

hopefully with cargo refactor in 3.18, the Caterpillar will get some advantages

[elfin heath]

Before i got the game a few months back the Caterpillar was the first cargo ship i wanted but after playing the game a bit i think i'll get the C2 for now considering i'll spend most my days mining

The shields from what i can see on YT on the C2 are really good as well

[ivory gust]

note that there will be another wipe in 3-5 months, so don't kill yourself grinding for stuff now

[civic portal]

The C2 has 2 S3 shields so yeah, thats really good

the default qt drive on the C2 is the first thing that should get upgraded, then the shields obviously

the qt drive the c2 comes with is soooooo bad

[elfin heath]

How far can i jump it?

[ivory gust]

it's not distance, it's speed

[elfin heath]

Crusader to Arc?

[ivory gust]

all of the big ships can go full distance in stanton on any drive

[elfin heath]

So how is it bad?

[ivory gust]

Very slow

[elfin heath]

Aaah

Any recommendations on something a bit faster?

I'm for sure getting a C2 here shortly

[ivory gust]

use !erkul to see speeds of quantum drives

[wary tusk]

#DPSCalculator

• Calculator • Shops • Ships • Weapons •

[elfin heath]

The thing is every time someone sends me to that site is i don't know what is a good vs bad speed, what's average & what's OP

It just slaps you with a bunch of stats, I don't know what half represent tbh

[ivory gust]

click the QD, sort by speed

[elfin heath]

Okay but i can get one that really fast & bad fuel consumption

Wouldn't really help tbh

[ivory gust]

for S1 you want Atlas if you need to get all the way across the system, Spectre if you only care about shorter hops (the "faster" drives have very poor acceleration and are not actually faster)

For S2 and higher just get the fastest drive

Fuel is super cheap right now, and all ships with S2 and higher QDs can make it all the way across the system with the fastest drive

[elfin heath]

I guess this would be a good option for C2

[ivory gust]

no

TS-2

well, Pontes is okay, TS-2 better

[glacial dagger]

TS2 is much more worth it

Fastest S3 QD, and the C2 defo has the fuel tanks to use it pretty effeciently. I have made multiple cross system jumps without running out of fuel 😄

[elfin heath]

😅

Okay TS2 it is

[civic portal]

Yeah, the Starlifters have the highest amount of QT fuel in their tanks (88k units)

[elfin heath]

Any other recommended upgrades? I will only be using it to shift refined quant for now

[civic portal]

no ship currently available comes even close

[civic portal]

the fastest one

it uses barely more qt fuel

[glacial dagger]

Syntexx, do we know if the Starfarer can refuel larger ships yet?

If yoru jsut hauling cargo, the QD is really the only upgrade you need to make

Maybe your powerplant as well

[civic portal]

I sadly dont know anything about the Starfarerer and/or ship to ship refueling

[elfin heath]

What does this do?

[glacial dagger]

Provides more power

[elfin heath]

I've never upgraded ships beyond my lancet head on a prospector & a VK-00 QD so this is all new to me

[glacial dagger]

Should help decrease charging/aligning times

[civic portal]

Shields should be upgraded before that

You will never shoot back in a C2

if you get hit you run

Power to shields and qt away

[ivory gust]

Switch the VK-00 to a Spectre. VK-00 is a trap

[elfin heath]

Would be a waste of money, never had issues with it, does what i need to do fine!#

[glacial dagger]

If their jsut running cargo, the likelyhood of them getting hit up in such a way that they cant run soudns...odd

[elfin heath]

I think for now i'll just worry about a QD for the C2

i doubt a entire fleet is gona jump on me

[glacial dagger]

VK-00 is really jsut fro the defender at this point

[civic portal]

its preparing for the worst

[ivory gust]

VK-00 (and its friends) have a higher top speed than the Spectre but a very bad acceleration, using a VK-00 causes your trips to take longer than just using an Atlas

[glacial dagger]

Their only jsut getting started

[ivory gust]

don't switch it now, sure, but next wipe something to keep in mind

[quiet night]

TS2 works well for the C2

[elfin heath]

I will, after i got it i saw a video and the guy got a atlas

For now i just wana get to grip with the basics

not looking to over sweat it

[civic portal]

Its alright, step by step 🙂

[ivory gust]

Atlas is the default choice for all ships that use an S1 QD since it's the fastest drive that lets you get all the way across the system without stopping to refuel (although that might actually not be true anymore with the really distant MT Lagrange stations added)

It's pretty much never the wrong choice

[elfin heath]

[elfin heath]

I'll keep this in mind for other ships for sure, still got a cutty i wana do some upgrades on when i got more money, after the C2 buy & upgrades i will be saving before i splash on ships or more upgrades

Back to the mining grind

[civic portal]

just fyi, those are the ships with the highest amount of qt fuel in their tanks

thats why you can easily put the fastest qt drive in the C2 without ever having to worry

[elfin heath]

Once i understand that website & what everything represents i think i'll have a lot less questions overall 😆

[civic portal]

You dont understand that picture?

[elfin heath]

I do

I mean EVERYTHING

[civic portal]

ah

[elfin heath]

It's a bit overwhelming when you first go on the site with no information on what anything means, some things are more self explanatory than others

[civic portal]

In all honesty i completely disagree. Its a super simple website, everything is explained and obvious

[marble crater]

why does the Atlas drive get recommended over the Voyage drive for S1 QD's?

[ivory gust]

Range limits on Voyage

[civic portal]

less qt fuel required

[marble crater]

what jump can't the Voyage make?

[civic portal]

depends on the ships amount of qt fuel. it might make the jump there but not the jump back whilst the atlas also makes the jump back 🙂

[marble crater]

Atlas will need to refuel after doing the MT to Arc jump just the same as the Voyage from what I'm seeing

[civic portal]

Atlas has 3/4 of the qt fuel requirement whilst having the same speed as the Voyage

You see why it is getting recommended now?

[marble crater]

nope seems like I save 20s every trip and each drive still needs to refuel at the destination

I guess if you're going to the new Lagrange points it would help but there;s nothing there tbh

[civic portal]

Both pics on the avenger titan

its 13m km more

[marble crater]

hmm guess I'm changing all my drives to Voyage

if I jump MT to ArcCorp, I have to refuel with either option to get back, Voyage just shave off 40 seconds on the round trip

[civic portal]

if its about speed use the VK-00

[marble crater]

VK00 won't get me anywhere

Voyage seems to let me reach any of the major planets while being the quickest

[civic portal]

its reality

[hollow sedge]

what is the best trade route for big cargo ship right now

[glacial dagger]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[glacial dagger]

@hollow sedge ^

A fairly good site for seeing what's bought and sold where

[hollow sedge]

i know the site but

whats the best trade route?

i tried the route on that site, and it didnt help me much

got a dead cargo in my ship

cant sell

[glacial dagger]

Look at what can be traded in bulk, i.e. what locationsw can fill a C2 in 1 go

if you find a couple, see which one can gives you the highest profit marjin

[hollow sedge]

how do i know?

[glacial dagger]

Look at the max lovation inventory

the C2 has 69,600 units of space

So long as a location has more than 120,000 units of max storage, you can probably fill your C2 there

[hollow sedge]

i dont see where that is

[glacial dagger]

Then select which commodity your gonna look for

Check up on a couple to find what you want

I'm trying to avoid jsut telling you the routes, it's better if you learn what to look for, where to look for it and then go and give it some trial and error

in my first couple of runs I rana net loss of about 120k

[pearl mulch]

Anyone got a list of those ship wreck locations?

[misty coyote]

Have they messed around with the Grav Levs? My Nomad crunches ALOT more than I remember......

[hollow sedge]

is there a difference between cSCU and SCU?

[cyan juniper]

1 Standard Cargo Unit (SCU) is 100 centi-Standard Cargo Units (cSCU)

[simple lintel]

what is the best mining laser for Prospector? and where can I get it? Im new to mining and trying to figure it out

[vestal ravine]

Most people use the MH 1 Lancet for the Prospector.

[cobalt rivet]

Its the best one to use

Any lack in power can be made up for with surge modules

Stability is more important

[idle yacht]

first time in a prospector... I rented one. I was mining and the ship just shutdown, why?

[pure kernel]

did you overheat the rock? probably critical damage your systems

[calm egret]

Did you press U? That's the default hotkey for power. Also when you're mining rocks you want to stay out of the red section, otherwise it overheats and explodes causing damage around it, its enough damage to destroy ship components.

[idle yacht]

ahhhhh probably was it

thanks

[ivory gust]

Wrong, no. VK-00 is a trap on anything other than the Banu Defender

[civic portal]

it wont let you jump if your qt wont be be enough

[ivory gust]

A) Yes it will

B) that's not what I mean. VK-00 has great top speed but piss poor acceleration. Use Spectre if you want max speed for short hops, it will take less time than the VK

Due to the poor acceleration, VK-00 takes longer for any trip you'll have fuel for in anything other than the Banu Defender

[civic portal]

oh i didnt know, on paper it sounds decent

[ivory gust]

Yep, that's the problem with just looking at the top speed. It's not obvious at all

[worthy scroll]

Me over here still slapping an Atlas in everything.

[ivory gust]

But if you look at the travel times on erkul for shorter hops you can see the difference... Unfortunately though the travel times don't show on the mobile version

[fallen atlas]

[ivory gust]

Arc L5 to Mt I think

That looks like the longest trip from before 3.17.2

Theres longer trips available now, but nobody cares about the new stations

[worthy scroll]

I like one of them (don't remember which it is), the admin office is right on the main floor, no galleria to go to. Easy drop off for boxes.

[ivory gust]

Whaaaaaat that sounds amazing. I wish they would do that for all of them

[worthy scroll]

That's how it used to be, before they split them into levels. But they were also rat mazes back then.

[fallen atlas]

Port olisar is the only one left iirc

[ivory gust]

Port olisar is the best station in the game right now due to not having elevators. I wish they would just add a hospital to it, rather than removing it in favor of the boring copy-paste other stations

Stations should feel unique, and (other than PO) they don't currently

[fallen atlas]

PO is only unique because it's the last of its kind. It's also terirbly optimized and has a TON of redundancies.

It's essentially 4 station platforms in one big station

there's 4 copies of each store, 4 copies of the housing/terminals etc.

[ivory gust]

I feel like they could keep the design of the central area with the services to have a single one of those (adding a medical facility), with elevators to enough pads to not need the split

[fallen atlas]

That's pretty much every other station.

[cyan mountain]

voyage enjoyer

[fallen atlas]

but I do like the pads more than hangars.

[worthy scroll]

The old R&Rs I remember weren't like PO, they were their own thing. They mostly looked the same on the outside, but were a mess on the inside.

[lapis tusk]

whats the best thing to mine with the roc

[ivory gust]

Hadanite. Aphorite is a distant second, dolovine isn't worth the trouble

[cursive hinge]

If I'm not mining quantanium, is it best to mine from the planet/moon surface or in the asteroids?

[north oyster]

I do like the Vitamin D wall at PO though

[north oyster]

Any and everything above agricium

[vestal ravine]

Got 11 Hadanites the pink ones won't scan.

Anyway to make them wake up l

[north oyster]

When you put the laser on one and start mining, does the scan cycle?

[vestal ravine]

The laser shoots through it

[north oyster]

Ah, duds. No scan, no mine. Time to move on

Sadly

[vestal ravine]

Ok bummer thanks

[ivory gust]

https://redmonstergaming.com/mining-cheat-sheets/

[plush maple]

I wish the Valk had more cargo space

You'd think it would with all that space in the vehicle bay

[worthy scroll]

Open area doesn't necessarily mean cargo space. At least, it's not meant to. Cargo is supposed to go on locking cargo grids. The Valk is a drop ship. It's meant to carry personnel and vehicles into hot zones. The cargo capacity it does have is more of a bonus, to bring along some supplies for those troops.

[real gale]

i have been experimenting with cargo hauling for the first time today since we got the carrack to borrow for free fly

so far i havent been able to get over 150k an hour, tried hauling laranite + titanium and astanine + beryl and filling with scrap on the way back

not asking anyone to divulge their secrets but is it possible to make more? i had a good money making scheme with bounty hunting /bunkers where i made 400k+ an hour

i have 1 mill but i am not spending more than 400k at each stop

[worthy scroll]

Currently cargo profit is based on three things. How much you can carry, how lucky you are, and how fast you are. I average around 100k a run in my Caterpillar. I don't know how much that is per hour because I don't time it (money grinding isn't a focus for me). But the Cat is a pretty slow ship, it takes forever to get in and land to sell, and take back off again.

Cargo isn't the beast money maker it used to be. When they made stock shared across servers, that nuked how profitable it was. Other stuff is much better these days.

[real gale]

Alright thanks, im enjoying it for the change of pace

[plush maple]

That explains why laranite is non existent

[real gale]

just a bit surprised how low the efficiency of money making is with it, also the whole risk of getting a 30k with a full cargo is kinda scary

[worthy scroll]

Since I started running cargo again a month or so ago, I've only filled on laranite once. Most of the time you only get one restock tick. Two if you're lucky. Half the time I'm filling entirely with titanium.

[plush maple]

Didn't realize stock is shared across servers

[worthy scroll]

30k recovery should get your cargo back, you just have to wait long enough for it to kick in (I do 15m to be safe).

[plush maple]

I've not had such luck if the 30k happens on a planet

[worthy scroll]

Now, if you buy and then get a 30k extremely soon after, it may not have been long enough for the server to save.

[real gale]

lol just got to lathan and found 1 whole unit of Laranite

how does this refreshing thing work, it refreshes 1389 units per minute for every server?

do you have to keep closing the terminal and opening and just hoping you get lucky or?

[worthy scroll]

I've had the 1 unit before. I almost want to say that's someone trolling, because it stocks in larger quantities than that per tick. (I don't know how much or how often they are though, haven't cared that much to look into it).

[worthy scroll]

I just buy what laranite is there an then fill up with titanium. Go sell. Rinse and repeat.

Even with a full titanium load I'm still making 100k a run.

[real gale]

how big is the cargo on a cat?

also the numbers dont seem to be right on sc tools

it says titanium is 7.1 UEC per unit but at the terminal it says 7.38

[fallen atlas]

Those prices aren't exact. They're averages/ranges

[[Caterpiller]]

[alpine orbit]

https://starcitizen.tools/Caterpiller?action=edit&redlink=1

[fallen atlas]

fuck

[[Caterpillar]]

[alpine orbit]

https://starcitizen.tools/Caterpillar

[fallen atlas]

!erkul also has all ship info

[wary tusk]

#DPSCalculator

• Calculator • Shops • Ships • Weapons •

[real gale]

alright so about 120 scu bigger than the carrack

pretty cheap too

wish i hadnt bought my blade now lol

[worthy scroll]

Now, keep in mind that the Caterpillar is slow. If it was a race, the Carrack might actually make more per hour, or tie it.

[cobalt rivet]

Carrack costs liie 26 mil

Imagine having to grind back that money to break even

[worthy scroll]

Yeah. In the current version of the alpha gameplay we have, it doesn't make much sense to grind for a Carrack with the intention of using it to make more money.

[real gale]

i would never buy it after having tried it now tbh

id rather have a cat for cargo hauling or a hercules for a mix ship

btw is it worth stocking up on scrap or should i just go back for more titanium+

[worthy scroll]

Titanium. I've never had to step down to a third option. Grab all the laranite there, then fill up on titanium. Don't step down farther unless the titanium runs out (which I've never seen).

[real gale]

I meant stocking up on scrap at Lorville while selling the Laranite/Titanium, then going to the scrapyard on Hurston before going back to Lathan

[worthy scroll]

Increased time for less profit overall. Best to stick with the standard run.

[real gale]

Alright thank you!

[simple lintel]

What am I doing wrong? I want to buy mining laser but I cannot pay for it, insufficient space, it say...

[fast pasture]

How much is a full roc of hadenite worth again?

[worthy scroll]

Check the destination drop down, see if you're trying to put it in a backpack.

They're quite large, a bit too large for backpacks or pants pockets.

[simple lintel]

thank you, that was it, you are the best!! ....Im new at it

[worthy scroll]

I made a similar mistake when this new system came out.

[ivory gust]

It's pretty annoying that it always defaults to the backpack, I wish it would default to the local

[ivory gust]

220k

[fast pasture]

You happen to know what moon is best for hadenite as well

[ivory gust]

Aberdeen (requires Pembroke), Arial, daymar

[fast pasture]

Okay thanks you soo much

[normal flax]

Pembroke?

[ivory gust]

Pembroke armor and helmet, purchased from the refinery deck of a refinery station

Or a couple other places

[kind monolith]

Anyone let me tag along? newcomer?

[worthy scroll]

#looking-for-session would be a better channel for that.

[normal flax]

Wait you can buy armor up there? Didnt even know

[ivory gust]

There's a shop, yes

[normal flax]

Not the same one where you rent the ROC? @ivory gust

[normal flax]

Whats a good starting method to lots of aUEC? I know quantanium is a go-to but is there any benefits to mining other ores

[ivory gust]

Same place, different terminal

[fluid pendant]

Do roc's with hadenite cause the cutlass, roc can be rented....

[ivory gust]

Quant is worth 2x anything else

[fluid pendant]

basically a rented prospector sucks for quant so you need ot get 2m to buy it

[normal flax]

I own my own prispector

[fluid pendant]

then stick a lancet head on it and do quant since quant is actually easier to find than bexalite

team up with a scout.... and a few others eg I made 1m in about 90 mins last night

[real gale]

I just loaded up on laranite and titanium and had just entered QT when the game crashed.. should I enter the PU or wait or? is it all gone?

[worthy scroll]

An actual crash, or a 30k?

[real gale]

Crash

[worthy scroll]

Try logging back in. If your ship didn't plow into something after the crash (because you're still technically logged in for a bit before the server realizes you're gone), you may pop right back in, inside your ship.

[real gale]

im inside the floor

[worthy scroll]

RIP. I've always logged back in, sitting in the pilot seat.

[real gale]

so im fked?

[worthy scroll]

Start doing random crap, moving around, crouching, jumping, prone, see if you can pop back out.

[real gale]

omg i got into a bed atleast

now im scared to stand up

[worthy scroll]

If not, well, welcome to alpha gameplay. Where bugs happen, and events like the free fly makes it worse.

[real gale]

omg it seems fine

thank god

last time that happened it was impossible to get back into the ship

[ivory gust]

In my experience when that happens you need to sit or lie down in something to fix it... Pilot's seat, bed, ROC in the cargo bay

[real gale]

I have been flying the Carrack from the Command position, maybe thats why I end up inside the hull

I guess ill set the spawn point to the ship aswell that way I can backspace into a bed if i have to

[simple lintel]

Are cargo runs profitable? Is the Starlifter worth investing? Anyone knows how much can it make on average run and how high is the risk of loosing the cargo?

[fluid pendant]

they can be profitable but sometimes the source places lack supply

[real gale]

im making around 250-350k an hour on the carrack atm

[simple lintel]

How much money do I have to invest to fully load it and what’s the average profit on a good run?

[simple lintel]

Thank you

[fluid pendant]

https://uexcorp.space/routes

[worthy scroll]

Maybe. I'd go to the lower bridge and fly from the seat.

[ivory gust]

I'd be careful with this. I'm not sure that setting your spawn to the carrack actually persists through a logoff (or client crash) and logon

[ivory gust]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[real gale]

Well at least it wont make anything worse, since its a last resort

[real gale]

yeah im doing that now, it takes like 15 seconds extra every lift and takeoff

i really like having the pisces in the carrack, really quick to get to terminals and back into ship

[simple lintel]

Thank you, definitely necessary and very useful. Good charts. I guess what I wanted is an experience pilot opinion on weather I should or should not go into this business. Could you please give some pointers?

[ivory gust]

hop out of the airlock instead of using the bay door...it definitely shouldn't take less time to take the pisces to the terminal

Alternately, if you want to be pro, have a second person piloting the ship take off the moment you sell or buy the goods, and then just backspace to get back to the ship, save a couple minutes on each end that way (and more when you drop off in a city)

[worthy scroll]

Well, right now cargo running is extremely barebones. Go here, buy, go there, sell. There isn't much more to it. That's changing soon though, the cargo refactor is coming and it will dramatically change how cargo works.

[simple lintel]

Thank you, so much, you think I should wait or start training for it? I’m pretty new around here

[ivory gust]

It's a decent-ish way to make money for the time investment, as long as you have a C2 or Caterpillar and 1M to invest. However, it's very repetitive, and probably the single riskiest game loop right now with the game being a very buggy alpha--if anything goes wrong, you've lost your cargo and your initial investment.

Some people find it boring, some people find it relaxing and enjoyable. If you're in the latter group, can still be worth it for you.

[worthy scroll]

As a new person, it doesn't hurt to dip your feet into everything and experiment. Most systems in the game are pretty barebones right now, it'll all get much more in-depth later.

[ivory gust]

The Carrack is the 4th best hauler in terms of storage right now, so if you have 500k-ish seed money you can go ahead and try out with that now.

[real gale]

Air lock? Which floor is that on, and how do you get back up to the pilot seat? I still have to park the carrack as close as possible which takes a bit of time instead of just landing at the flattest piece of ground I see then taking the pisces in and out takes me about 30 seconds by now

[ivory gust]

Take the small elevator down to the sub deck, and instead of turning right into the vehicle bay, go straight across the corridor

[simple lintel]

Thank you very much. All the best and have a good one

[ivory gust]

I really, really doubt that getting in the pisces, flying to the terminal, parking that, getting out, selling, then getting back into it and having to park it back in the carrack before getting back into the carrack pilot seat is faster than just jumping out the airlock and running

or if you want to be fancy, get a Cyclone or hoverbike, open the vehicle bay door from the seat before you get out after landing, then take that 😛

Although, that said, there might be some ships that are faster to get in and out of than the Pisces that you could use for your method

[real gale]

damn it crashed again

its definately the command station doingit

going into QT there crashes it quite often it seems

[worthy scroll]

Could just be the event. Servers are slammed. I was crashing too. Not even trying anymore. Events are always problematic.

[cobalt rivet]

Crash to desktop? Or ship crash

[real gale]

to desktop

[cobalt rivet]

How much ram you got

[real gale]

32gb ddr4

[cobalt rivet]

Does it choke when you crash?

Or is it a smooth crash

[real gale]

choke, like stutter a bit?

[cobalt rivet]

Yea

[real gale]

yes

[cobalt rivet]

Frame choke

[real gale]

it freezes, then goes back with lower fps then crashes to desktop

[cobalt rivet]

Increase your pagefiles

[ivory gust]

Crashing going into QT might not be specific to command station, I've seen that a few times myself. FWIW updating my graphics driver seems to have fixed it for me

[cobalt rivet]

Its overloaded memory

Too much info being buffered

Make sure you set your ssd as the only pagefile source and add 20gb to it

[real gale]

how high should i set it?

[cobalt rivet]

Pick the ssd and make sure its the only one

Turn off page files for the other

[real gale]

alright

No paging files checked for D and E now

[cobalt rivet]

Then set minimum and maximum to 20,000

[real gale]

it says its currently 89,248 allocated

[cobalt rivet]

You will lose 20gb of space roughly, but that space will be buffer for your ram

[misty coyote]

Anything to do if you have a ship stored nowhere full of Cargo?

[cobalt rivet]

Screenshot me the current setting

[real gale]

its there above

the automatically manage paging file size was checked

god damn now i got infinite loading screen

[cobalt rivet]

Set it at 100,000 for minimum and maximum. And try increasing it if it keeps crashing. Assuming you have space

If after 110,000 it does nothing. Then it might be something else

[ivory gust]

define "nowhere"

how did you get into that state

[cobalt rivet]

Your C drive is a solid state right?

[real gale]

ye

fok i cant get back into the game

[ivory gust]

also you don't need 100GB page file, wtf

[real gale]

stuck in infinite loading screen

rip my money

[cobalt rivet]

Clowe the game and reload

[real gale]

i did

should i try verify game files?

[cobalt rivet]

Wont hurt

[ivory gust]

Might need to let the load go for 10+min

[cobalt rivet]

Ctds tend to leave you ingame for a bit so it might still be logging you out

[real gale]

im back in the game

but im at arccorp

rip my cargo

[cobalt rivet]

Whats your cpu and gpu btw

[real gale]

i5-12600k and 3080ti

[ivory gust]

honestly that's the biggest reason not to run cargo right now, the instability of the game

[cobalt rivet]

Check your fleet manager andnsee if ship is stored

[real gale]

4½ hours work for 100k

[ivory gust]

are your graphics drivers up to date? I have a 3080ti that was having crashing/freezing issues a couple weeks ago, updated to latest drivers and haven't had an issue since

[cobalt rivet]

If you have new gpus always keep them uptodate

[real gale]

ye i have the latest

[cobalt rivet]

Were the other drives set to use pagefiles?

Before you changed it

[real gale]

yeah my HDD was (:D)

[cobalt rivet]

Yeah fk that drive

Eeprom better

You can prob lower the reserve memory down to like 64,000 if things dont crash anymore

It might have just been using the D instead of C

[real gale]

thanks, ill restart the pc and see if it works better

if it says the ship is location unknown its gone right?

[cobalt rivet]

Ye

[real gale]

rip

[cobalt rivet]

[real gale]

wow someone in chat gave me the money i lost

[cobalt rivet]

[real gale]

two people even offered

maybe ill just jump around servers saying i lost my cargo and get rich quick

[cobalt rivet]

Now youre thinking

[misty coyote]

Nice!... I lost cargo money too... Think I might actually stop playing until 3.18 like I was planning on.

[real gale]

definately feels like more a rich person hobby than an actual job right now

Like flying AND gambling? You will love cargo hauling!

[misty coyote]

I don't mind hauling if it's in game things getting you

Not the server forgetting where it parked your ship

[cobalt rivet]

Hate cargo

Mining at least less risky

Profitable even

[misty coyote]

It's the risk..... Just nowhere near the reward..

[real gale]

yeap

ive made way more doing bunker runs and selling guns

[ivory gust]

AFAIK begging is by far the highest income activity currently in game

[real gale]

wiith no risk

[vestal ravine]

I launched Star Citizen and almost immediately my whole PC shut down hard. wow.

[real gale]

yeah saw some dude get 3 mill today

but f that, id rather have some dignity

[ivory gust]

Power supply issue

[real gale]

i really wish i hadnt bought that damn blade yesterday

then i would have the c2 and the money to risk hauling

[runic ingot]

should i go with a lancet or a impact head for mining?

[cobalt rivet]

Lancet

All the power you will ever need is in the surge modules

Stability is more important for quant mining

[runic ingot]

im new to mining in general

[cobalt rivet]

Practice on random rocks but you want to mine quantainium, nothing else is really worth the effort

You want rocks with 20% or higher quant

[runic ingot]

isnt quant the one that can explode?

[cobalt rivet]

Also the minute you start collecting quant itll have a count down so you have 15 minutes to get your ship stored at the nearest station with refinery

It can go explode or go inert

There is a bug that makes the quant you mine look inert, ignore it

[ivory gust]

15min is plenty of time, just fully break down the rock before you start extracting

[cobalt rivet]

As long as you still have timer its fine

[runic ingot]

what should i do with the two other sub item slots?

[cobalt rivet]

Three

[runic ingot]

ive got a brandt in one

[cobalt rivet]

Surge, optimum, stampede

Throw away bradnt

[ivory gust]

Can you actually use optimum and stampede simultaneously?

The other actives I tried could only be used one at a time

[cobalt rivet]

No , they each have contextual uses

Optimum is good on high quant rocks with super thin slits

If youre good with your control , stampede to finish off hard rocks

[real gale]

topkek some dude just payed me 1mil cause i found him in the spaceport hiding as an npc

[cobalt rivet]

If you suck woth control dont use stampede

[real gale]

now i can go back to cargo hauling

[runic ingot]

im new so i prob wont

[cobalt rivet]

Optimum is noob friendly and has more uses

You run stamp and go into red its bad juju

[runic ingot]

anything for passive items?

[cobalt rivet]

Dont need them

The lancet is super stable and reliable

You can use 1 slot for passive of your choice

If you insist

And then use surge and optimum

[native slate]

wheres the best place to roc mine and what am I looking for? My buddy and I are trying it out for the first time

[cobalt rivet]

Aberdeen

On hurston

[ivory gust]

Aberdeen (needs Pembroke suit/helmet), Arial, or Daymar

[native slate]

We'll do daymar, I fucking hate aberdeen

[cobalt rivet]

Its actually the richest moon ive seen

[native slate]

can the maxlancer fit a roc better than the base lancer?

[cobalt rivet]

Prob

[ivory gust]

Yes, definitely

[cobalt rivet]

Regular roc or the two man roc?

[ivory gust]

Max Lancer gives you room to walk on the sides

[native slate]

ok

[native slate]

regular

[ivory gust]

Cutlass can carry two ROCs as well

Park the first one in backwards, second one in forwards

[native slate]

Can my buddy pull out 2 rocs without it despawning both and/or his ship?

I gave him the money for 2 cuz I'm not at lorville

[worthy scroll]

It has a bigger butt hold, so if it can fit in the base, it can fit in the MAX.

[native slate]

W

[native slate]

any ideas on my previous question?

[worthy scroll]

I really just wanted to say butt hold, I didn't care that it was already answered 😄

[native slate]

^

lol

[worthy scroll]

That one I don't know. I've actually never ROC mined before.

[ivory gust]

As long as he doesn't pull anything else out, and as long as you're not using a Constellation, yes

Max is 3

But note that only the owner can sell from it

[native slate]

ok

So I mine from it, put it in his ship, then he sells from both?

[ivory gust]

If it's your first time trying, I recommend renting

[native slate]

I have money to play around with

I didnt mean that to sound pretentious

[ivory gust]

Yes, although sometimes need to pull it out of the ship to sell

[worthy scroll]

With how easy it is to make money, that isn't a big deal 😉

[native slate]

I've funded 5 of my buddies ships, he's brand new

[cobalt rivet]

you all need to get together and do combat beacons

[worthy scroll]

Buy one a Carrack, it's the perfect starter ship for a new player.

[native slate]

great idea

[cobalt rivet]

fk mining

[native slate]

not that much money to play with

[cobalt rivet]

just get a crew ship and go blow shit up

[native slate]

we were doing bounties but he sucks at aiming

[ivory gust]

Skill issue

[cobalt rivet]

throw him out the airlock

and tell him git gud

[native slate]

I also started him off in erts so I'll take the blame

[cobalt rivet]

beacons are more fun

[native slate]

true

[cobalt rivet]

and somewhat dangerous

[native slate]

but scarce

[cobalt rivet]

they are

[native slate]

I dont see many

[cobalt rivet]

they pop up A LOT on hurston

just jump from moons to everest

take the low ones and then all sudden moderate ones pop up and it keeps going

but never travel all the way to microtech or crusader

fk that sht

[real gale]

there are tons at crusader too

basically all u can eat

many of them are bugged tho

[cobalt rivet]

crusder is good and all

but hurston

[real gale]

i hardly ever see them at hurston

in fact im here right now, cant see any

last time i was grimhex there were literally 9 beacons at the same time

[cobalt rivet]

move around they eventually pop

fk grim hex

fk all the asteroids

fk that gas planet

[real gale]

hey i like the asteroids

gotta make life interesting

[fast glacier]

Is the disposal orinth place on Hurston safe and worth going to to sell cargo?

[cobalt rivet]

me everytime someone brings up Crusader or Microtech

[fast glacier]

Also, any tricks on how to know where to go for Grim hex?

I always find myself going in circles around

And it's super dangerous

[cobalt rivet]

trick is you dont

[fast glacier]

Fuckk

I crash so many times near grim hex

I'm such a terrible pilot

[cobalt rivet]

why do you need to go to grimhex

[fast glacier]

To sell illegal drugs

[cobalt rivet]

oh

[real gale]

its a miracle

didnt have to squeeze my balls between my cheeks to get into the hangar for once

[cobalt rivet]

dafuq you fly?

oh carrack

it aint that big

at least your reticle centered

C2 reticle is on the left side

-_-

I mean camera

[real gale]

its big when u get assigned that medium hangar

[cobalt rivet]

i make c2 fit on a rock if I have to

[runic ingot]

i made my first actual attempt of getting qaunt

[cobalt rivet]

did you blow up

[runic ingot]

game lagged hard as hell

just as i was about to get to the station, boom

[fast glacier]

How long does it take to sell 1000 widow at Grim hex?

[cobalt rivet]

[runic ingot]

fak

[fast glacier]

Like 2 hours?

[cobalt rivet]

upgrade your quantum drive to a grade A military

alwys break down your rocks before you start collecting

and most importantly, pre plot your course back before you start mining

[runic ingot]

i did but i lagged for a soild 3 or 4 mins

[cobalt rivet]

man, this sucks. I reached endgame

[marble crater]

congrats now you can wait for 3.18

[cobalt rivet]

ep 3 of rings of power was disappointing af

no big revealations, just boring errands

shitty thursday

i hope they make pyro like Aliens movie

I want to be throat fked by egg laying spiders

[worthy scroll]

It was probably bad because they talked about it in the wrong channel.

[cobalt rivet]

its mining related!

im just reeling in the salt mines rn

[jovial matrix]

Max ships you can have out is 2, not 3

[worthy scroll]

It's been three for a long time.

[jovial matrix]

Just the other day, I tried multiple times to pull out 2 cyclones and put them into my cutty. Every time I called in the second cyclone, the cutty despawned

This was the day of the hotfix

[cobalt rivet]

do you own two cyclones?

[jovial matrix]

I do

Standard version and an MT

[cobalt rivet]

want to take them on joyride and eventually blow them up?

[jovial matrix]

That sounds like fun. When?

[cobalt rivet]

tomorrow

evening

[jovial matrix]

For an event or just to fuck around?

[cobalt rivet]

fk around

[jovial matrix]

Yeah sure

[cobalt rivet]

want to get crime stats as well?

[jovial matrix]

I’m down

I’ll play tonight and get myself geared up

[runic ingot]

so when i ping the asteroids they wont actually scan, what am i fuckin up now?

[cobalt rivet]

your first mistake was doing asteroid mining

[worthy scroll]

That's just part of mining. Move on to another rock.

[fast glacier]

Why does it take forever to sell WiDoW?

How can CIG make it so terrible?

[runic ingot]

nvm i found some

[ivory gust]

No, bad advice. Use Spectre

[ivory gust]

Not sure what issue you were hitting, but it's always been 3 for me

[pliant marsh]

anyone know the schedule for when JT starts selling the good drugs again?

[worthy scroll]

I'm actually going somewhere to test it right now.

[ivory gust]

The only thing I can think of is that maybe the Cyclone MT itself is bugged somehow and counts as 2

[worthy scroll]

But I'm definitely thinking bug as well. It's been three for so long I don't remember it being anything else.

[ivory gust]

But I've done Carrack +2 other things as well

[jovial matrix]

Interesting

Probably just a bug that day or something then

[ivory gust]

Constellation (other than Taurus) I know counts as 2 due to the snub

[fast glacier]

If I sell my drugs and max out the demand on GH, does it really mean no one else can sell any?

[ivory gust]

Yes

Everyone in the entire world is competing for the same limited sell quantity

[fast glacier]

That's so doomed

[worthy scroll]

It's a fairly decent simulation of how things will be later when everything is one universe.

[fast glacier]

It will take forever to unload

[worthy scroll]

That's why nobody runs drugs anymore lol.

Except for the Jumptown event.

[fast glacier]

What's that?

You can sell lots of drugs during the event?

[ivory gust]

yes

[worthy scroll]

You can sell the event drugs a lot faster during that event.

[jovial matrix]

So many drugs

[cobalt rivet]

ur ovwe here trying to make few hundred ks on drugs and some guy is making millions with exploits

[fast glacier]

How to exploit?

[cobalt rivet]

if it was common knowledge it wouldnt be a thing

[fast glacier]

The cheaters get caught and wiped, no?

So it doesn't matter

[ivory gust]

Nah

[fast glacier]

What?

[cobalt rivet]

they make good enough money selling their cheaty money, they just go back with new account

CIG understaff, prob not enough auditors

i bought most the ships I wanted when they fked up the money

but afterwards people were throwing money at me

[fast glacier]

There was a recent reset though

[cobalt rivet]

yes

the recent reset

they fked up the money

everyone got millions

[ivory gust]

Right after the 3.17.2 wipe they accidentally gave people who played in 3.17.1 a ton of money

If you managed to get online in the first 12 hours before they fixed it, you could buy a bunch of ships

I bought a Carrack with my "oops" money and fell in love with it

[fast glacier]

They should do another wipe then

[cobalt rivet]

I spent like 26 out of 54 mil

[ivory gust]

There will be another wipe in like 2-4 months

[cobalt rivet]

I sorta wish they would

but I know I will prob get all that money back in no time

also knowing how shitty most of the ships I bought were, Ill prob only have a handful of useful ones next go

cutty wont be among them, as much as I like the shi[

prob go straight for freelancer

[normal flax]

Thats why I bought Prospector/Freelancer Max, so at least with wipe I can get on my feet somewhat with quant mining

[cobalt rivet]

im gonna do all rentals

dont even need pledge tbh

too easy

[ivory gust]

Rental options are limited though

[cobalt rivet]

just gona be propector and gadgets

[ivory gust]

And some ships have awful starting equipment

[marble crater]

great combo! I melted my Prossy but kinda miss it

[ivory gust]

eww, I'd rather ROC mine than have to use gadgets to do quant with a stock prospector

[runic ingot]

so uh when i get back to the refinery do i store my ship?

[ivory gust]

no

hover outside a closed hangar

get impounded

[runic ingot]

k

[ivory gust]

if you already landed, yes store the ship

[fast glacier]

For trading, is it worth getting the C2 Hercules over the Caterpillar?

It has more ship cargo space

[ivory gust]

In game or for real money?

[cobalt rivet]

dont waste your money buying C2 unless youre running drugs for an ORG

trading blows

[fast glacier]

In game

[ivory gust]

Yes, get the C2 if you want to trade, it has more space than the caterpillar and flies better for only a little more money

[marble crater]

C2 is the best option right now if you want to do trading

[fast glacier]

Are drugs the only option?

Can't I do medical supplies and shit?

[runic ingot]

ferron or dinyx, or does it not matter?

[ivory gust]

No, there's tons of stuff to trade

[cobalt rivet]

can do anything with C2

[normal flax]

See thats what I was thinking. I had the cash to afford it. And figured I could just get straight to quant mining and skip past roc mining which imo isn't as worth it

[ivory gust]

Same yield, Ferron takes 1/3 as long as Dinyx for 2x the cost

[cobalt rivet]

cost is negligible

[marble crater]

Titanium, Diamonds, Laranite, Med Supplies are all decent legal options

[ivory gust]

I usually do Dinyx for my first few loads, then switch to Ferron as I approach having enough to fill a hauler

[fast glacier]

There's no supply of laranite and diamonds though...

[ivory gust]

med supplies has somewhat limited quantity though, I wouldn't want to do that in a c2

[ivory gust]

You buy all the available laranite, fill the rest of the hold with titanium

[cobalt rivet]

do combat beacons inbetween bunkers or bounties for best monies

[native slate]

how much does a roc full of aphorite sell for and where do I sell it

[ivory gust]

not sure how much it sells for, but you can sell at any station admin terminal, or any mining outpost "Storage" building

[native slate]

thanks

[cobalt rivet]

nearest mining station planetside. Just land and sell at admin terminal

[native slate]

We found a cluster of 7 aphorite rocks and theres hella cscu of them

[cobalt rivet]

all mining outposts planetside has one

though you really risking it with a full ROC

[native slate]

why?

we have 2 full rocs

[cobalt rivet]

30k

[native slate]

oh

[cobalt rivet]

if its a fresh server, its worth the risk, but I would not wait til its full

selling is so quick you can go right back to mining

just land and run to terminal

[native slate]

gotcha, thanks

[cobalt rivet]

surprise you dont just prospect mining

[native slate]

We both decided to learn roc first

[cobalt rivet]

time to prospect and realize you been wasting time ROC mining

[runic ingot]

i just finished my first quant run

[worthy scroll]

On the topic from earlier, three ships.

[ivory gust]

oh oh now park the reliant on top of the carrack's hangar bay (closed) and see if it sticks during quantum

[worthy scroll]

Not the best place to SS it, but I wasn't going to EVA too far lol.

I don't think it would fit lol, it's wangs are too wide.

[ivory gust]

it does have very large wangs.

[cobalt rivet]

the 890 allows you to dock small ships on its bow and QT with them

[vestal ravine]

My PC started up okay and I was able to mine a gemstone no problems. logging off for now.

[ivory gust]

It won't fit in the bay, but it should fit on the bay

and as long as you don't open the door it should stick

won't store that way though

[worthy scroll]

Gimme a sec, just stored the 135

It won't stick, just bounces off.

[ivory gust]

rip

thanks for trying, and SHATTERING my hopes and dreams

[worthy scroll]

Gimme a sec, trying something different.

[native slate]

Is it bad to pad ram ppl with bounties?

[ivory gust]

Yes, and is actually bannable

[worthy scroll]

Tried to rotate it and go the other way and nope.

[native slate]

damn

[ivory gust]

Thank you for the attempt, sad to hear

[worthy scroll]

Yeah, pad ramming is practically the only way to get banned right now. That's how big of a problem it used to be.

[cobalt rivet]

Why pad ram when you can ship ram

[worthy scroll]

Well, it was ship ramming, just while the other ship was still on a landing pad after spawning in.

[inland pivot]

Anyone know how are caves for ROC mining? Is it worth the trouble, other than the exploration of it?

[cobalt rivet]

Cant fit ROC inside cave

Its all multi tool mining

And looting npcs for dolovine

[ivory gust]

There are some caves that ROCs can go in

[cobalt rivet]

All the caves ive been in have narrow and cliffy pasages

Sone have a wide entrance but ultimately they narrow where it matters

But in theiry caves do have a lot of hadanite

So if you manage to squeaze the roc into every crevice, yes its worth it

Yo when will we have derelict mining colonies infested with parasitic aliens

I want to roll in with a crew of miners and slowly lose my crew one by one

[inland pivot]

Are there ROC rocks in the bigger caves, or just hand mineables?

[inland pivot]

#anyone?

[marble crater]

only the hand mine sized rocks in caves

[plain vessel]

where do i keep track of where i can get the most with my commodities

[hollow sedge]

why cant i buy any laranite on latahn

[ivory gust]

Because it's been bought out already. Supply (and demand) are shared across all servers

[hollow sedge]

so what do i do now

how im i suppose to do my trading now?

[ivory gust]

Buy something else?

General advice is to buy all of the available laranite, and then fill the rest of your hold with titanium. If no laranite, just titanium.

[hollow sedge]

is there a way to check if something is out of stock?

wbefore i waste my time going there at all

[ivory gust]

No

[marble crater]

trading will be rough while Free Fly is on & everyone is flying around in a carrack

[hollow sedge]

when will it reset

[ivory gust]

Never? Supply and demand both slowly tick up, it never "resets"

[shut vine]

do i lose modules if i die

mining ones

[misty coyote]

I tried this last night... Lost 900k to a crash and a failure to store my ship properly

[wanton sandal]

what is the best thing to cargo right now

[elfin heath]

Looking for a additional miner if anyone wants to group up/ duos

[shut vine]

you lose mining laser if you claim prospector??

[inland pivot]

No

You keep any ship load out changes

[shut vine]

weird

i lost it

[shut vine]

i can't extract stuff out of rocks, any ideas? do i need to break the rock further?

[fluid pendant]

is it yellow or purple?

[shut vine]

yellow

[fluid pendant]

then you need to break it further until its purple

[shut vine]

kk thanks!

[fluid pendant]

i guess hte mining head showed up?

[shut vine]

hte?

[fluid pendant]

the

[shut vine]

im not sure what you mean

[fluid pendant]

#industrial-professions message

[shut vine]

nothing was in slot

i bought new ones

[fluid pendant]

lancet mh1 all the way 😛

[shut vine]

those final few rocks are tough

my first... well second qt rock

the bar wouldn't stop jumping

what does those sparks mean?

sometimes i see more sparks, sometimes fewer

[fluid pendant]

So... put a lancet mh1 head on. It makes the green window bigger. Use surge, spampede, optimum modules to help

[shut vine]

i use lancet already, + 3 vaux c3

[fluid pendant]

For ever prospector you mine with the lancer makes the green optimal window 75% bigger when the laser is on the rock

eg 15 prospectors at 0% make a massive green section 😛

also having the power on a joystick axis (slider) helps massivly

then its 500k/hr profit or so

the hard part is trying to break > 7000 mass rocks

[elfin heath]

It's 500k a hour regardless if not more, just got 1 rock within 10 mins of scanning that will give me 300k

Chances of finding a 200k rock within the remainder of that hour is very high

[fluid pendant]

yup

pulled like 1m the other night in about 90 mins

[elfin heath]

Just use gadgets, i started using them today & they help a lot if you're solo

[elfin heath]

Sounds about right

From arriving on lyria to leaving with the rock i did that in about 15 mins, found the patch almost straight away, would have probably shaved more time if i had someone placing the gadgets for me 😆

No modules involved, Just a lancet head and boremax gadget x1

[fluid pendant]

biggest i have broken by myself is like 8200 or so

[shut vine]

neat

got my first 32 scu quant

well 31.99

for whatever reason

10 mins to spare

[cobalt rivet]

[normal flax]

A fully loaded Prospector with Quant is worth how much? I know it varies based on refining method but a close average...

[cobalt rivet]

250k give or take

Assuming you use Ferron exchange or Dynix solvation

[fluid pendant]

269k or so

[meager gorge]

What’s the most mass you’re breaking with that setup?

[elfin heath]

Solo around 8k

[fluid pendant]

starts to get kinda dodge over 7k or so

[elfin heath]

Can't lie i'm not one to count my high score but like mis said, 7k it start getting iffy

You need to be on the ball

[fluid pendant]

yup anything > 6800 or so you really want a 2nd person there

[elfin heath]

You can however stack gadget as many as you want plus combine other ones & in addition to that add modules which makes most gadgets irrelevant if used correctly, test a bit of everything to see what you like

[meager gorge]

Solo with just a boremax and lancet? How do you get it into the green on higher mass rocks?

[elfin heath]

You mean in the optimal window?

[meager gorge]

I like to do low maintenance stuff.
That’s why it piqued my interest with your setup. That’d save me from buying 3 modules. Ya the optimal/green window

[elfin heath]

Yeah just add the gadget mate, Calibrate it to around 90%+ the higher the better, don't forget to activate it & yeah have at it, it may take a while & if you're only using 1 boremax on a 7k + rock it may seem like it's not working but just be patient

[fluid pendant]

very tempted ot go mining now....

[elfin heath]

@meager gorge https://starcitizen.tools/Mining_gadget#:~:text=List of mining gadgets Name,Charge Window%3A ... 2 more rows

That will tell you what gadget does what

Be careful when combining different types or stacking, you can crate a deadly combination

https://uexcorp.space/mining This also helps knowing if a rocks even worth cracking, you might find 2 rocks that are only worth cracking if both are done, just add the rock mass in the mass section & the percent in that section, long as your (Mineral SCU) is close to 32 or higher then grab it

[fluid pendant]

i guess mass is basically unit's? sso 50% of 5000 = 2500 or 25scu

[meager gorge]

Ive used them before. Thanks for the tips!

[elfin heath]

& If you ever want to know what you money will get prior to hauling its what ever the units are after refining for example (3100 Units x 88 = $$$)

[meager gorge]

This part you lost me

[elfin heath]

When you're at the refinery it will tell you how many units your load will produce

Take that number & x it by 88

that's how much credits you will make when you sell the refined quant at any location that buys it

[meager gorge]

Ok cool! Idk where you got 88 from but I Believe you and will try it

Wait is 88 how much quant goes for a unit lol

[elfin heath]

A guy told me here yesterday, i test it 3x & it was 100% accurate each time

[meager gorge]

Ok hahahah sounds good

[elfin heath]

I don't know the science i'm just passing on info that was relayed to me which i have test & is accurate, anything i have not tested i wouldn't pass on more or less 😅

https://sc-trade.tools/best-buyer Or if you're lazy just use this, type in your refined units & hit submit

[normal flax]

Yes, current market price of 1 unit of Quantanium is 88 aUEC

And that, iirc is the set price across the whole Stanton system

[meager gorge]

Roger that

[normal flax]

If you needed to sell it unrefined (not sure why) its 44 aUEC a pop

Do what you will with that info 😂

[fallen atlas]

Did a full run of Titanium/Larantie/Diamond from Lyria last night, mid flight to ArcCorp my server 30k's and I end up waking up in grim hex

freaking out because I have like 400k worth of materials in the C2, go to the terminal and thank god it was there with the cargo in it. 😅 Fly it to Orison and end up selling it for nearly 700k

[misty coyote]

That's lucky...I did a very similar run in the free Carrack at Hurston. Stored the ship at lorville and it vanished

Lost 500k there, then tried again in the same way. Right after I pressed buy, 300k, game crashed

Not a 30k, my application.

[fallen atlas]

yeah, I pretty much shit my pants. My buddy I was showing was like, "so it's just lost?" and I was like "probably 😭 "

[misty coyote]

Yeah...It's not fun

I love cargo hauling, but I don't want to lose my investment to game crashes or bugs...

Ship accidents and piracy is part of the loop...

A little salty about it....

Felt like it took me ages to earn that, and it's now just gone

[fallen atlas]

Yep, that's why I typically just stick to bounties

[willow tiger]

Hey guys, can you actually make enough to make renting a Prospector worth it?

[fallen atlas]

Since you can't change the mining head, it's not super profitable as you can't access the highest paying minerals, but you can still turn a profit.

Just keep in mind you'll also need something to haul the refined cargo after.

[misty coyote]

If you're going to rent a prospector, and you can find someone, get a buddy with a paid for Prosp. Go to Lyria and find some fatty boy rocks. You can both fill up pretty easily then

They can change the mining head then...

Otherwise, go out, fill up fast and sell it. Rinse repeat

[cobalt rivet]

you'd have to know what you're doing

gadgets can make rentals operate almost on par with custom prospectors

there is of course a little more effort and cost involved but consdiring how much you make and the time it takes to cut a rock, id say its worth

you can also stack gadgets on a single rock

[serene quest]

after refining, yes

[serene quest]

@cobalt rivet some big tips there. Gadget stacking on high mass rocks is where it's at.

still trying to figure out the values on the overview like what the relationship is between certain instability values and your mining head power or gadget/module influence

same for optimal and overcharge values

especially when the values change between scanning them and mining them.

[misty coyote]

Huh.... I've always shrugged off the gadgets.... Seems expensive for a one use

[cobalt rivet]

beggars cant be choosers, still better than ROC

once you own a prospector you dont need to worry about gadgets anymore

[cerulean lichen]

Bad luck mining lately. Twice I had a game crash with a full prospector of quant. And a third time my quant turned into inert material. That was last night. Hopefully today has more luck

[serene quest]

they aren't a one use

you can pick them up again once the rock is cracked

[misty coyote]

Huh!....

That's really interesting!!

[cobalt rivet]

did it turn inert during travel or when you checked at the refinery?

cause if it says inert while you are mining or during travel, its just a bug, its actually still quant

trust the timer not what the thing says

[cerulean lichen]

Game crashed while landing. Logged back in, was still in my ship giving over the pad with the unstable ticking over to a minute left. Landed, ran to store my ship but it got towed for parking violation. Payed it off, got my ship back and went to the refinery. When I was there I found it to be all inert.

[cobalt rivet]

if ship gets towed its technically stored

your mistake was calling it back

but in that particular case it was def inert

scratch that you have pay the fine

[cerulean lichen]

Yep. Wonder if it exploded and got towed at the same time. That could explain why it went intert but ship itself was fine

[cobalt rivet]

it either goes inert or explodes

when the timer runs out

do you crash often?

[cerulean lichen]

Doesn’t matter now. Just hoping my next mining trip is better. No some days are crash crazy others I have no problems. Yesterday was just a bad day I guess.

[misty coyote]

Free fly tends to lean more into crashes as the servers take more strain

[cerulean lichen]

Ahh that explains it. Maybe I’ll just do box missions this week.

[cobalt rivet]

difference in crash types

30k is connection crash (mainly server side), then there are client crashes which take you back to desktop

[cerulean lichen]

I had crash code 10k something last night and one client side.

[misty coyote]

The client crash I had last night was second after spending 300k on cargo

[hollow sedge]

what a good place to mine quant?

thats not on lyria

[ivory gust]

The only other place worth mentioning is the Aaron halo

[hollow sedge]

where is that?

[ivory gust]

Because of the way scanning works

https://cstone.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes

Lyria is better though

[hollow sedge]

i dont understand how the band stuff works

do I just start driving ship into space?

im confused

how im i suppose to do which way to go

[ivory gust]

The page tells you how in "route example"

This video also explains it, and how to scan once there https://youtu.be/wjzEYwMDQsY

[hollow sedge]

how could i stop my q drive in that specific distance? or just close enough is fine?

[ivory gust]

Close enough is fine

[cobalt rivet]

Halo is big, and doesnt sit in one pin point location

It spans quite a distance

[hollow sedge]

where should i mine on lyric

or anywhere is fine?

[ivory gust]

Anywhere

[cobalt rivet]

away from the QT jump points

outside of scanning distance, so roughly 30km

[misty coyote]

How's the Halo for unscannable rocks these days?

[peak linden]

Is mining on lyria still the best way to make money?

And brant surge and stampede modules are still good?

[hollow sedge]

how much time do u have unti quant explode

[serene quest]

about 14min

[serene quest]

pretty horrendous last I checked

will be checkin in about 5

[misty coyote]

Had some unscannables on Aberdeen when Hadenite mining that made me a bit sad

[frozen locust]

someone last night gave me the link for all the ship data anyone still got it

it showed like max cargo crew guns ect ect

[serene quest]

Hit 2-3 ghost clusters before I found a viable solo qnat rock

[spring prism]

This one? https://www.erkul.games/live/calculator

[frozen locust]

no but it will help so thanks

[cobalt rivet]

just cracked a 7.5 k rock with rental and gadgets

_<

gadgets are def retrievable

and reuseable

[ivory gust]

Unless something goes wrong and they fall through the ground or just disappear

Too risky imo

plus, you need to re-apply gadgets (at least the Sabir) to every chunk you want to break, way too much effort

[idle yacht]

Is Lancet enough to break any asteroid in Aaron? 5122 mass. Without using active modules

[native slate]

Smallest ship that can effectively fit a base roc?

[ivory gust]

Yes

[ivory gust]

Nomad

[native slate]

bet

[ivory gust]

just make sure you shut off the ROC after parking it

[idle yacht]

Thanks!

[misty coyote]

You can't rent a nomad, but you can a Cutty Black. So for gem mining your initial fee will be about 60k ish..
Cutty Black
ROC
Pembrook suit and helmet

But you're making that back in half an hour.

[ivory gust]

Only need the Pembroke if you're on Aberdeen

[cursive hinge]

I swear, if it isnt 0% charge in the red zone the rock always destroys my ship

Even if I move away

[worthy scroll]

FYI, putting boxes by hand in the rear cargo of the 315p had a chance of bugging the boxes, either making them unable to be picked up again, or getting stuck to your hand after picking it up.

I frickin knew this, wrote an issue council report on it, then forgot and did it again anyway 🙄