industrial-professions

[edgy bobcat]

does this mean all my cargo is gone

[barren pebble]

Retrieve it maybe?

I had the same today

Few meters above loreville haulingvthe refiend

Ship showed as stored on loreville

Flew over but did not see anything on the tdd. When i retrieved it - i could sell it

[edgy bobcat]

that worked thank you

[barren pebble]

👍👌

[ivory gust]

FLTR doesn't seem that useful to me since it only gets rid of inert, not junk ores like quartz

Most of the trash I end up with in my hold is trash ore, not inert

[delicate relic]

Odd question, how big is the astroid belt in star citizen? trying to give my friend some sense of scale on mining in SC vs mining in EVE. I think according to my math, just star citizens Staton system has more minable area then all of eve? ( eve = 8000 system, 1-12 50km astroid fields per system = approx 2.4 mil km minable astroid fields ( average of 6 fields per system ) )

and unrelated to above, when mining, will I find better yields of some ore's in diffrent sections of the belt?

[cobalt rivet]

There are some bits that will sometimes be pure quant and inert and nothing else

[glacial dagger]

Retreive and store really quickly

That will pull the ship into that station and you should be able to set up the refinery deal

[ivory gust]

So, it's not really a relevant comparison for a lot of reasons, but just comparing "mineable volume" doesn't really work. EVE "asteroid belts" are dense clusters where everything is mineable; in Star Citizen most of the rocks you see in the asteroid belt are just visual and can't be mined. As a result, in EVE you could easily have a large-ish fleet of miners all working together within sight of each other, whereas in Star Citizen they'll be very spread out and you'll never need more than 2-3 miners working in a single small "area."

A better comparison would be to say SC mining is more like scanning cosmic signatures in EVE, in some ways--you can't just warp straight to something useful to mine, you need to spend time finding something. In the case of SC, when you find something it'll only be good enough for 1-2 mining trips, not like EVE where you find belts that can keep you busy for hours.

With that way of looking at it, there are an effectively infinite number of "signatures" to find in SC simultaneously, without needing to wait for belt respawns.

[ivory gust]

Not sure anyone's ever closely looked at this, but from anecdotal experience the distribution of asteroid types seems pretty uniform throughout the belt. Some langrange points have mineable areas that will have different distributions, but in the current version of the game nothing other than Quantanium is worth mining

Also, the "2.4 million km of mineable asteroid fields" is just a single-dimension number (length), whereas the belt in SC is three-dimensional, making the straight numerical comparison even more irrelevant

[cobalt rivet]

Fake ass EVE

[ivory gust]

Also, EVE online is actually a playable game, and this is Star Citizen, so...yeah

[cobalt rivet]

Still better than EVE

That game blows

[ivory gust]

Different people like different things

[delicate relic]

to clarify, I have played eve a lot with this person, I am just trying to a good example of how the scale will work, he hears 50/100 systems at launch in SC and thinks it will be much smaller in scale then eve since eve has 8000 systems.

But just one of thoes systems in SC will likley have more astroids to mine then all the systems in eve combined. And that the one belt in Stanton is so large you can find a spot in it and not worry about someone randomly warping in and ganking you like in eve ( since eve is all poi based mining, you can be easily found, SC being go where ya want mining means someone will have to spend a lot of effort to maybe find you.)

This wasnt a question about how to explain the astroid game play to him, but how to explain the scale of the game to him. and how even tho SC is only 50-100 systems, they will all be so detailed that there will be more game enviroment and stuff to explore then eve ( if only cause the fps nature of SC)

So that said, is my concept of the game scale where mining is concered mostly right , or would I be giving him bad info?

or like how in eve, sevral systems in a row will all be mined out for a while.

[ivory gust]

oh yes, if the concern is being able to go someplace where you won't be found, then yes SC absolutely wins

that said, we don't know if it will be possible to scan down someone in a system the way you can in EVE

[delicate relic]

ya, I am really courious how that will work, I am hoping it will be next to imposable to find smaller-med ships just mining or parked somewhere as a respawn base ( like in pyro), but large and caps, and small ships having a dogfight might be more noticable to scanner.

[ivory gust]

TIL you can only have one active module active at a time--at least Optimum/Torpid/Brandt

however, it does seem that the Impact (with a brandt for taking care of the instability) could be useful on a MOLE as a "first break" laser if you don't like Surge--I just broke a 7k mass rock fairly easily with it

[delicate relic]

do modules survive dystruction, or still just the primary mining laser/ other systems?

[glacial dagger]

Ok boys and girls, the time has come. If you wish to get your name on a list for a Pioneer base building request, please DM me and I will send you a google forms link. This will get you added to the current list and, with any hope, I will be able to start getting though the lsit once the game goes full release

[glacial dagger]

Moduels are destroyed on destruction/claim of a ship, yes

[ivory gust]

@glacial dagger @strange cove Note that uexcorp has updated their ore prices, and gold is back to 3.2/unit raw--it was probably just a bug on the site

[strange cove]

ya it was, i attempted it and it was a bug

[glacial dagger]

I was thinking it more than likely way

Someone forgot a .

Which means either their data scraping software bugged, or worst, their manually scraping

[ivory gust]

Also, I think I'm a MOLE convert now, the ability to deal with rocks that break terribly and give you just 30% quant in each chunk is nice

[glacial dagger]

True, but soloing a MOLE is annoying

[ivory gust]

Eh, the bouncing was annoying but other than that it wasn't too bad

[glacial dagger]

I cant wait till they fix that...

[ivory gust]

obvious answer is just to get an alt account to sit in the pilot's seat

[cerulean lichen]

Found a unicorn rock but had to be so close to it to get the power to mine it that I was not fast enough to back up when it popped. It took out my mining arm and thrusters and all I could do is stare at the valuable rock

[ivory gust]

that's why you need surge/stampede!

[glacial dagger]

This is true

Alternativly, jsut get some friends 😄

[ivory gust]

nobody's going to want to just sit in the pilot seat and do nothing while other people have fun

see also: ROC-DS

[cerulean lichen]

I thought a normal lancet could handle a 5.5k mass rock on its own but apparently not

[ivory gust]

if you popped it, it can handle it, just need to be quicker about scooting back

someone on here did a 5.7 with lancet alone a few weeks back

If you're still at the rock I can come rescue you and split the profits

[cerulean lichen]

Had to claim the ship since I couldn’t fly. Currently doing a box mission while I wait on the timer

[ivory gust]

ah, rip

[rugged axle]

Always carry a surge. Just in case. No matter what build I'm running, there's a surge in module 1. If nothing else just to mine quicker.

[barren pebble]

So can surge help with 5.5+ rocks in solo prospector?

[glacial dagger]

Technically yes

[barren pebble]

How about those 7500 on lyria? 😄

[glacial dagger]

Potentially, but I wouldn't risk it

[ivory gust]

Yes, that's what surge is for. Surge and stampede, and you can break 7500

[rugged axle]

Surge to get to green. Under 6kish you should be able to maintain power at that point. For bigger you surge to green, then stampede to burn through green quickly

For really big, you may have to surge it twice just to get to top of green. Then let stampede do its job

[cerulean lichen]

So don’t know if it’s a bug or not. But all my quant into inert material when I went to refine it

About half a prospectors worth

[rugged axle]

Your prospector blew up.

[ivory gust]

did you land or impound

[rugged axle]

It is a bug. And is well known. Desynch causes the game to think you crashed while landing. Which in turn blows the quant up. Add to the issue council report and hopefully something gets done about it

And if it happened once...go ahead and swap servers. Cause it ain't gonna get any better in that server

[ivory gust]

or just impound like a normal person isntead of landing 🤷

[cerulean lichen]

Landed perfectly fine with 5 minutes on the timer left

[ivory gust]

Never land

Only impound

[rugged axle]

I only land, never impounded.

But if the bug hits, I swap servers

[ivory gust]

I only impound, never land, and I've never lost a load

[cerulean lichen]

Huh wonder what happened. I’ll check the refinery next time I log in to see if I can start it since I haven’t yet

[ivory gust]

You won't be able to, it's gone

[rugged axle]

I just told you what happened...

[ivory gust]

flow chart is roughly -- do you like losing money and/or are bad at math? Then go for the landing. Otherwise, just impound

[rugged axle]

When server health goes down the drain, desynch happens. Because of the desynch, on your screen you land perfect. Game sees you plummet to the ground and blows up the quant because of a hard landing

[cerulean lichen]

Ahh well crap. At least it was only 15/32 full of quant.

[spring prism]

That's why we always suggest to fly in front of a closed hangar without calling ATC, and sit there for a minute or so. Impounding won't clear your cargo

[cobalt rivet]

[sleek torrent]

Weird, yesterday all the armor i didn’t sell was worth a few hundred a piece. Today everything is zero. Has the economy really changed that much in one day. Same store and same location.

[fluid sun]

Is there a non-obvious difference between Lancet MH1 and MH2? Seems the 2 has more range but otherwise the same.

[ivory gust]

The 2 goes on the MOLE, the 1 goes on the Prospector. Range is the only difference

[fluid sun]

ahh okay thanks

[fluid sun]

What about the torrent modules? Are the II and III for the MOLE?

or just the III's maybe? same for vaux-c3?

[ivory gust]

no, modules can be used on anything

there's no reason to use the Is when the IIIs exist

bigger effect and less downside

[fluid sun]

oh unexpected, okay... i just hit quickbuy on the lancet and didn't get the module it looks like..

[ivory gust]

laser doesn't come with anything, have to buy the modules seperately

[fluid sun]

okay sorry wrong terminology, i bought the head and didn't get it

ima check my ship in case it went there but i selected station

[ivory gust]

did you buy the MH1, if you're getting it for a prospector?

[fluid sun]

yes

[ivory gust]

then go to loadout manager in mobiglass, it should be an option to switch

[fluid sun]

not showing in inventory, checked filters etc

not there either

[ivory gust]

it doesn't show with any filters

not even "vehicle"

[fluid sun]

filters off, still nothing

[ivory gust]

then it didn't buy

[fluid sun]

money went though

[ivory gust]

do you have any other ships at the station it could've accidentally gone to?

[fluid sun]

no but it did go inside the prospector, i just found it

whew

[ivory gust]

need to move it to station before you can equip

[fluid sun]

thanks!

[vestal ravine]

I just had a great gameplay session on Daymar. Found 6 Hadanite and broke them open with the Prospector. It was tedious rounding them up but the new tip I found you can "collect/store" them by double tapping the F key once you highlight them. Lately been having lots of bugs, etc. so maybe 4 or 5 bad sessions for every one good one.

[plush maple]

So when object persistence comes into play next update, do you all think it'll help prevent losing cargo in a game crash?

I'm optimistically hoping that cargo will be safe from crashes someday- cargo running is so fun until something like that happens and you lose all the money you made over hours

[vestal ravine]

Miner I think the current 30K Heartbeat crash recoveries and the future improvements will help us freight haulers a whole lot. But since I lost that $188,000.00 load I stepped away from freight and back to mining. Been spending way more money than income since the hot fix.

[cyan mountain]

ah yes

[fluid pendant]

park it like you stole it?

[cyan mountain]

ask the hangar personnel idk lol

[glacial dagger]

Someone forgot to turn off their engines I see...

[cyan mountain]

they are off hhhh

it turned into a bunny for 3 seconds

[agile stratus]

Anyone know where you sell these items?

[glacial dagger]

Those are all food items, so I dont hink you can? Might be worth trying out at like buds Growery or something?

[hollow sedge]

so

base freelancer Vs. Raft. which better?

obv raft has more cargo but is there some other side to it that makes the freelancer better?

only such thing imo is the space to store vehicles and weaponry on the freelancer

[rugged axle]

If your going to do a Lancer, you might as well do the max.

At the moment Lancer is "better", due to being a multi role ship.
With cargo refractor and load/unload times, the raft will be a better cargo ship

[worthy scroll]

Honestly the two ships really aren't comparable. The Raft isn't a "cargo" ship exactly, it only is right now so it has some function in the game. It's a forklift, all it will be able to do later is pick up and transport large cargo boxes, it doesn't actually have any cargo space inside it. The Raft is also very bugged right now, the lift breaks, so you have to use the ladder to get around inside the ship, and use the airlock to jump out. There is the possibility that it may be able to do some kind of refining in the future, based on what's inside its upper level interior. (This has never been confirmed to my knowledge, just player speculation.)

The Freelancer (all of them) are going to be much more multi-role. They're not terrible at pilot combat (the Raft isn't built for combat at all), though their turret sucks (Raft has a better turret), they can all carry real cargo to different extents, and fit vehicles to different extents. But they also have very outdated designs. Their interior and living area sucks compared to the Raft.

[elfin heath]

Which lancet head do i need for a prospector? Trying to get back into mining, It's been a hot minute

[worthy scroll]

The size S1 version. The S2 goes on the Mole.

Having said all that about the Raft and Freelancer, I choose the Raft any day. It's just the better designed ship IMO. Granted it's much more niche in it's intended and future role, but it just has more going for it in my mind. The Freelancers are simply too outdated. As much as I love my DUR, that whole series needs a massive rework to bring it up to spec with what the game is now.

[elfin heath]

Anyone got any tips for the best quantum drive for a prospect? planning on doing lyria jump to ARC-L1 with quant? Need something fast that does short/medium distances

[shut remnant]

are there delivery missions in arccorp?

cant seem to get one to show up

[worthy scroll]

There are. Sometimes it can take a while for missions to start filling. Try going to A18 itself, or going to the moons.

[shut remnant]

Ok will do, thanks

[worthy scroll]

I've run into that at all the mission locations. Sometimes going to a different place within the system will force them to pop up.

[rugged axle]

But those 3 big cargo boxes the raft carries will be filled with what?

[worthy scroll]

Whatever the ones you pick up are filled with. The three that are attached to the ship right now are just props, those aren't actually a part of the ship. Those are what the Raft picks up and carries somewhere else.

The part of the ship those are attached to is going to extend and retract, depending on how many boxes you're picking up.

[rugged axle]

So, you don't think we will be able to put cargo in the cargo boxes and deliver it?

[worthy scroll]

Well, that is going to be what the cargo refactor does. Everything will have to be loaded and unloaded.

[rugged axle]

Exactly...so it's a cargo ship lol

[worthy scroll]

Yes but no. A forklift isn't a semi truck just because it moves the pallets around that the semi truck delivers.

[rugged axle]

But, a forklift also doesn't jump across a system to pickup boxes...

Unless your counting every cargo ship currently in the game as a "not cargo ship", and only counting like hull c and up.

Raft will be a cargo ship, meant for within system deliveries. Aka the equivalent of a semi truck.

[glacial dagger]

I would say the Raft is more like a semi, yh

[worthy scroll]

The Hull ships are the semi trucks. The Raft is what loads and unloads them, like a forklift.

[glacial dagger]

Use the RAFT to take a container off a Hull E or something, bring the containers down to a planety surface and them MULEs or modified ROCs with tractor beam attachments can move the containers around

[glacial dagger]

nahh, the Hull E is more like a Freighter ship that pulls into a harbour, the RAFT gets loaded up with a 2/3 containers like a Semi and then ships it shorter distances

[worthy scroll]

Look at it like modern shipping. Hull is the semi truck. The Hull takes the shipment to the distribution center/store, or whatever. Then the truck is unloaded by a forklift, the Raft. Then the pallets are further distributed by workers, the Mules. Then SC has a further step where manpower distributes it again.

[rugged axle]

Hull a is what will move boxes from a b+. Hull b is a semi. Hull c+ is your boats.

Rafts whole lore states its a cargo ship, meant for short distance cargo runs.

[glacial dagger]

Both A and B can land planet side with cargo attached

Its the C, D and E that cant land with cargo

[worthy scroll]

But the point stands that the Raft isn't really a cargo ship itself. It's a logistics tool that works alongside the cargo ships.

[fading escarp]

IMO Hull are Super container EEE class etc. Raft are semi taking it from the harbour to the local shops and stops

[glacial dagger]

It can move 96 SCU of goods, i would say that's pretty good for cargo

[rugged axle]

Except it IS a cargo ship. Designed to fly to a station/planet. Pick up 3 32scu boxes of cargo, and deliver those 3 32scu boxes of cargo to a buyer within the same system.

[fading escarp]

AFAIK Hull C, D, E are station and LEO only (aka your harbours). Raft, Cater, C2, etc are the ones taking it to and from the 'harbour' to/from planet factories, outposts, etc (localized)

[rugged axle]

@hollow sedge tldr, if you want the more "useful" ship right now, and want to use it for other stuff, get a freelancer.
If you want the more useful pure cargo ship for later, get the raft

[worthy scroll]

It's an argument of semantics. We can all call it whatever we prefer to call it.

I'll call it a forklift. You can call it a cargo ship. In the end, it doesn't change anything. Both descriptions are fitting.

[rugged axle]

Then every cargo ship is a forklift

[worthy scroll]

Considering most of the cargo ships have tractor beams, that's fitting.

[fading escarp]

'most' caterpillar and Taurus AFAIK

[worthy scroll]

Except for the big ones, that need another forklift to do it (the Raft).

[rugged axle]

Read the descriptions of the ships from rsi...

[worthy scroll]

Sure.

the RAFT is an ideal solution for reliable local freight transport.

That's what a forklift does.

Local. Immediate area.

[rugged axle]

You use a forklift to move a box from 1 city to another?

[worthy scroll]

And in the case of SC, local means a local system.

[fading escarp]

I'd use a forklift to put pallets on a semi and then drive the semi to its destination. At its dest, a forklift would empty the pallet..

[worthy scroll]

You're thinking larger scale than I am. The way I'm thinking about it, a system, like Stanton, is a supermarket. Truck brings the shipment to the store, the Raft disperses it within the store to it's departments (planets in the system). Then it's further distributed from there by employees (very small cargo ships and Mules).

[fading escarp]

I see Stanton as a nation, Inside the nation are several shop, factories, stops, etc that are either consuming or producing

[rugged axle]

So you consider a whole system as a single store?

[worthy scroll]

In the scale of this game, yes.

[fading escarp]

correction Stanton - an european union. Inside that are several nations (planets) etc..

[worthy scroll]

Guys, I'm not saying that what I'm saying is how things are, I'm saying this is how I personally view it. As I said before, semantics.

[fading escarp]

yeah, but the scale of reference is slightly off.

[rugged axle]

Thats...insane...

[worthy scroll]

So then, you think about things how you want to think about them, I'll do the same. Nothing actually changes.

[fallow cedar]

Is the MOLE more profitable /hr than the prospector solo?

[cobalt rivet]

In what context

Solo?

Two man?

Three man?

[verbal cargo]

depends more on what you find really, it can be if you get good clusters

[cobalt rivet]

Equal share?

[rugged axle]

It can be. If you find enough rock in 1 spot to justify it

[fading escarp]

it's been debated to no end.. 3 pros vs 1 mole ..

[cobalt rivet]

Mole carries 96 scu

Prospector carries 32scu

[worthy scroll]

100% depends on your luck. Finding the right rock is where most of your time goes, and that's RNG.

[cobalt rivet]

Mole requires two man to be operated smoothly

If you operate two man you have to find a way to harvest more than 64 scu to be more profitable than prospector

Othewise if you split right down middle its the same or less profit

If you solo, amd run into no issues, it’s profitable for sure as the extra scu pays for itself

[fading escarp]

Tho there is a small factor of S1 v S2. Tho right as of this moment I don't a lot of difference on the numbers. Maybe someday there will be.

[rugged axle]

Range, is about it. Mainly due to where the lasers are mounted though

[cobalt rivet]

Speaking as someone who works self sufficiently the mole is a bad investment

[rugged axle]

I solo the mole, if I find like....a 5k+ 40% rock...which I find using the prospector lol

[cobalt rivet]

If you crave playing with others no amount of inefficiency will dissuade you from playing the mole

And if you operate 3 man and split it 3ways evenly, there is no profit difference

Unlike the roc and its counterpart the roc ds, which have clear advantages in storage capacity

2 man and 4x the cap

[fading escarp]

I have to date, never filled a ROC in between 30ks and crashes..

[cobalt rivet]

But it also beckons whether you can even find a cluster that can fill 124 scus of quant

[barren pebble]

Guys can someone confirm - when hauling refined ore, can i park it on a space station above planet, then go down with a small ship and sell it with the cargo parked on a space station?

[fallow cedar]

i do not believe that works

[rugged axle]

No. You need to fly the ship with cargo down to where you want to sell

[barren pebble]

Okay 👍 thought so, read some reddit thread…

[cobalt rivet]

Never trust short reddit answers

[fading escarp]

You could in a previous version 3.16? 3.15? But not anymore

[worthy scroll]

Not anymore. Used to be you could, as those stations were tied to their home planets and shared inventory. But it's not longer like that.

I kinda wish you still could, because running cargo in my Cat and having to fly in and out of Lorville is a special kind of pain.

[fading escarp]

ye, and C2

[worthy scroll]

Oh, the C2 flies like a fighter compared to the Cat lol.

[fading escarp]

I remember having several C2, a cat, MSR and I'd load the whole bunch up on EH and then I'd take 1 trip down and sell the whole bunch .. good times

how did I have several.. dupe bug or free flight or ...

[shut remnant]

Do high rep delivery missions pay well? looking to grind them out if they do in the long run

[fading escarp]

easy to level up .. 3-8-12 missions or so

[shut remnant]

but do they pay well, like 30k+

[rugged axle]

60k I think is max payout. For going in, killing a couple peeps in bunker, grabbing a couple packages and delivering to different spots

[shut remnant]

oh they involve combat in the later ones?

[fading escarp]

there'll be a special bunker mission at 44k IIRC where you have to PvE your way in to pick up 3 boxes. Last I tried, you needed to pick 1 box, fly it to dest, fly back, PvE, fly dest, deliver, fly back, PvE, fly dest, deliver .. 3 times

[rugged axle]

Yea

[fading escarp]

with 1 box at a time ..

[shut remnant]

hmm

that sounds not very fun aha

[fading escarp]

guess why I failed twice and never did them again ..

I went in, picked 3 boxes and tried deliver them..

first time I shot an artimex in the face cos bad guy .. he was a guard ..

[rugged axle]

You should be able to pick up all boxes at the same time.

[fading escarp]

ye, my feedback as well ..

don't think CIG read or saw my feedback

or cared

[rugged axle]

No no, I mean... your supposed to be able to lol.

[fading escarp]

anyways I get paid 8000 per 3 box set

[shut remnant]

1st mission... off to a good start

[fading escarp]

splendidly .. never a dull moment

[stone cradle]

I see the reclaimer available for purchase. Are salvage missions up and running now?

[vestal ravine]

Had a load of Q from the Halo and Landing Services gave me a spot then when I was halfway there the blue icon went away and another ship was in the hanger. No way to get to another hanger so I kept going the pilot came out and stopped but I flew over him to the hanger and the Impound process started. Man quit drinking on the job and push the right buttons!!

[main saddle]

lol, yeah, LS has been wonky

I've had the hangar doors start closing as I enter and my ship get hung up in the doors. Not when mining, thank goodness

[worthy scroll]

No. Salvaging is slated for 3.18, the next big patch.

[main saddle]

Where is the Reclaimer on the store? I didn't see it

[worthy scroll]

Yeah it isn't there for me either.

[main saddle]

maybe for Concierge XD

[stone cradle]

In Lorville it was on the screen for purchase. Thx Brunnen

[cerulean lichen]

You think salvage will be added to this catagory on the discord server or maybe get it’s own channel?

[main saddle]

oh

[worthy scroll]

Oh, in game purchase. Yeah, it's been available like that for a while.

[worthy scroll]

I'd guess it'll be added here. Since mining and cargo are tied together as game loops, salvaging and cargo might be as well.

[stone cradle]

Star Citizen Alpha 3.17.2 LIVE.8148301 Patch Notes
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/190048/thread/star-citizen-alpha-3-17-2-live-8148301-patch-notes

Database Reset: Yes
Long Term Persistence: Disabled (Reputation will be preserved) (Wipe happened)
Starting aUEC: 20,000 (Players will receive a stipend based on previous 3.17.1 LIVE playtime)

Notable Information:

• Update: Increased Server Capacity from 50 to ~100 Players
• Derelict Reclaimers V1
• Derelict Colonialism Outposts

So I found the above message in the patch notes

[cerulean lichen]

I’m mainly a miner but salvage would be interesting. Though hopefully there are enough wrecks or they are going to be swarmed by people

[worthy scroll]

It's something I've been waiting on for years. Salvaging and exploration are the two primary game loops that interest me.

[stone cradle]

Yeah me too! I think salvage and mining go hand in hand

[cerulean lichen]

Industrial ships and professions are great!

[pliant matrix]

any changes since last months about Roc mining and ships scans?

[cerulean lichen]

Scanning still works on surface stuff. Scanning in the halo for me doesn’t work.

[pliant matrix]

by surface you mean small rod are still invisible unless you get 1km close? It was like that last time I played

[cerulean lichen]

Well small roc size rocks appear at 3-4 km. Though you have to investigate the signal to to figure out what minerals out of the 3 it is.

[ivory gust]

Gem deposits that only appear within 1km are hand mining deposits, ROC deposits appear within 3-5k depending on ship

[pliant matrix]

oh so that's better. there was a time when you needed to fly at less than 1km high and nocks appeared at like 1-2km

[ivory gust]

Spectre

[cerulean lichen]

Yah, a few patches ago it was needing to be that close now you can tell further out. Downside is if your not paying attention you may think it’s a roc size deposit when it’s just a super large boulder you didn’t notice the signal of until you got in roc rock range

[inland pivot]

Can anyone recommend a good ROC+cutty mining zone?

[pliant matrix]

that's still better. flying in msr at less than 1km high and at a decent speed was giving me cold sweats tbh xD

[ivory gust]

Aberdeen (needs Pembroke suit) or Arial (any medium armor will give 15-20min)

[inland pivot]

Just anywhere on the moon?

[ivory gust]

Yes

The only location of any note will be directly under OM-1 (the north pole) since it's always daylight

[inland pivot]

Huh cool tip

Thanks!

[reef smelt]

Does the prospector have to go all the way back to a port to get repaired after it drops its pods for the expanse to pick up?

[gaunt fiber]

that gameplay isn’t in game yet, so we don’t know

I believe the Expanse is going to provide replacement pods for the Prospector

The whole idea is to keep mining without having to go back to a refinery or a space station, so I believe replacement bags are a part of the exchange, just not sure how it actually happens

[reef smelt]

Ok, that make sense, thanks.

[pliant matrix]

Actually there will be a specific job to come pick bags (probably give empty ones) and resupply prospector with hydrogen then go deliver the ores to the refinery. So as said Yentra prospector never stop mining

[north oyster]

Too bad it looks like the MAX is going to loose to the RAFT. The MAX is better in just every aspect (except crew quarters). The RAFT is new. So it goes

[pliant matrix]

Max is more multirole than Raft will ever be. I'd drop my msr for a max if it didn't look that outdated

[gaunt fiber]

yeah, I have a hard time seeing the purpose of the RAFT… unless putting cargo in the ship is going to take a significant amount of time, the exterior cargo just doesn’t have an advantage right now. Plus it’s only 96 SCU

[inland pivot]

Hey, random question: if you bed log, does your ship retain any cargo it might have?

[stone cradle]

Nope, I just bed logged and have to insurance claim it back at the station

[gaunt fiber]

depends where your ship is

sometimes after login your ship will be somewhere else, but NOT require a claim

if you have to claim your ship, you lose the cargo in it

[ivory gust]

It's supposed to, but bed logging is kinda broken so it's a coin flip

[gaunt fiber]

I agree, I wouldn’t risk losing cargo with a bed log

[ivory gust]

50% it works and you log back in where you were with all your stuff, 50% it fails in one of a handful of interesting ways including "waking up at your last station", "wake up at home location with all your gear missing", and "can't login, need to character reset"

[inland pivot]

Half the fun is coin flipping no? :P

At least there's a chance for it to work. In cases where you have to log and can't get to a station

[cerulean lichen]

Yah it’s not a risk I’d take. Before the latest patch if I bed logged I would spawn outside of my ship when logging back in and couldn’t move at all to make my way back to the ship that’s only 20 feet from me. Maybe it’s fixed now but better off not risking it.

[pliant matrix]

even when Raft will serve it's real purpose will there be players doing that job ingame?
I mean it's one of the most boring job irl to do imo

[cerulean lichen]

Wonder if those cargo pods could open. Could possible store hover bikes in the pod if possible. I’d have to check how big the pods are though. And that also means cargo pods would have to be designed to be openable by players

[cerulean lichen]

I think the raft could be amazing with some tweaks.

[digital arch]

Ive finished this quest it looks like but im not getting any payout, any idea on whats going on?

[ivory gust]

Quest is bugged, you're SOL

[cobalt rivet]

Call JG Wentworth and tell him you want your money now

[tight latch]

when is the expanse mobile refining ship supposed to come out

[worthy scroll]

Nobody here knows that.

[ivory gust]

It's not on the roadmap or progress tracker, so it's a couple years off probably

[cerulean lichen]

Yah they would need to get tractor beams for large scale stuff working. Mobile refinery working, and a bunch of other stuff before the can make the expanse

[cobalt rivet]

When they get giant tractor beams working im gonna launch stuff at space stations

[worthy scroll]

Plus it just takes a long time to make these ships, period. The amount of work that goes into just doing the design, whitebox, texturing, animating, coding, all that, is massive.

It's a pretty newly announced ship, so I don't expect to see it any time soon.

[digital arch]

Whats a website that can calculate A -> B cargo hauling for aegis avenger titan

[worthy scroll]

You won't make much with a Titan though, it simply doesn't have enough cargo capacity. With how cargo works right now, capacity is king.

https://sc-trade.tools/home

[digital arch]

so what ship should i save for with currently almost 80k uec

[worthy scroll]

For buy/sell cargo to become worth it over other gameplay loops, in a credits per hour sense, you want at least a Taurus.

If you want to run cargo just because you want to run cargo and you aren't in it for the money grind, by all means, use any ship you like that has cargo capacity.

[digital arch]

how much is the taurus?

[worthy scroll]

3.2mil.

You can find ship prices and buy locations with this site.

https://www.erkul.games/live/calculator

[digital arch]

is there anything cheaper 💀

[ivory gust]

Not if you want to actually make a decent amount of money hauling.

[worthy scroll]

Cutlass Black, the Freelancers (MAX is the big cargo version), Raft.

But as I said, any of these smaller ships are easily outpaced in making money by doing other things in the game.

[ivory gust]

If you just want to be a space trucker because it's fun, and money is a secondary consideration, consider the RAFT at 1.8M or the Freelancer MAX at 2.2M.

[worthy scroll]

Yeah, you can run cargo in anything that has the ability to hold cargo. It's money making that becomes the issue. If you want to do it for fun, then use whatever. If you want to actually make money, you're really looking at big, expensive ships.

If your ship is on the smaller side and it's credits per hour you want, you're better off doing something else. Bounty missions or the 45k box missions.

[copper cypress]

Was there another update that requires character creation and residence?

[worthy scroll]

Days ago, but yeah, recently.

[copper cypress]

Okay

[stone flower]

What is a good quantum Drive for the prospector

[ivory gust]

Spectre

Assuming you're not wanting to make long trips across the system

Spectre is the fastest for short hops (e.g., ARC-L1 to halo or Lyria)

[torpid mesa]

Anyone need a scout or laser operator?

[fluid sun]

why can't i find the aaron halo, i've dropped out of qt at many points according to charts and what people recommend and there's never anything around me

[cosmic parcel]

Anyone have a detailed guide on mining for beginners? Fairly new and I have no idea what I'm doing with my prospector.. I upgraded the laser and the QT and thats where I'm at

[rugged axle]

@cosmic parcel look up redmonster-sc on YouTube. Then watch all of his videos

[ivory gust]

Where are you starting, where are you pointed towards, and how far away are you dropping out

[fluid sun]

arc l1 to cru l4 was the last try at 12.5m km but that's outside a chart i've seen

[ivory gust]

Yes, 12.5M is too close to CRU L4

If you're coming from ARC L1 going toward CRU L4, you need to drop out when the remaining distance to CRU L4 are something on the left side of that line

(from https://cstone.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes )

[fluid sun]

okay i have that page, i just tried myself before from mic l1 and then someone suggested from arc l1 but now i landed good, thanks

should have just kept on trying

[ivory gust]

if you're halo mining the best place is CRU L1 for the quant bonus, honorable mention to ARC L1 for being close to Lyria to have other options

[burnt storm]

how do you get the 45k box missions?

[worthy scroll]

Grind rep. You can get them from the Hurston, Arc Corp, or MicroTech rep.

[burnt storm]

oh okay, gotcha

[worthy scroll]

Delivery rep doesn't take anywhere near as long to do as the bounty reps, far fewer levels to do.

[burnt storm]

so just like bounties makes sense

[worthy scroll]

Unified Distribution Management, Red Wind Linehaul, Covalex, and Ling Family Hauling.

[burnt storm]

I had some friends share with me all the bounty certs as we were doing them together after the reset, but I had to do another character reset to fix an issue with my cutlass. So I'm now at no certs lol.

so I was gonna pivot to whatever else I can do with my mustang or cutlass black, as solo MRT+ with my vanguard warden was tough

[ivory gust]

warden is great for HRTs and VHRTs

[burnt storm]

that's fair It's probably more me as a pilot then lol

[ivory gust]

It does suffer a bit in MRTs and below since it's better at hitting larger targets

[burnt storm]

I'll ask in #flight-combat-racing for some loadout tips

[fluid sun]

so i finally found a quant rock worth something and it turns out my lancet got removed.. now i don't know if i have it somewhere or if i have to rebuy it.. nix nax doesn't have a search option right?

[ivory gust]

You can filter it but not search, no

also how did you get that far without noticing you didn't have a mining head? should be scanning in mining mode

[fluid sun]

oh filter, nice

yeah the arm came out etc, was scsanning fine

when time came to click to mine nothing happened and in the left column where it used to say lancet it was blank

[ivory gust]

i've heard a few people to whom that happened but haven't had it myself, no idea what causes it

[fluid sun]

i think the game crashed the first time i flew it with that head

claimed it and never checked if the head was there

[stone flower]

I was going to go mining it for some rocks in a asteroid field and it will not show the scan results for some rocks is it a gadget i need

[ivory gust]

unscannable rocks, happens a lot

nothing you can do

[stone flower]

ok thx

[ivory gust]

getting out of the seat and back in can get rid of them temporarily

[stone flower]

k

[cobalt rivet]

can you find quant on Wala?

searching first time, coincidentally getting unscannables

[worthy scroll]

Definitely.

[cobalt rivet]

i found a cluster of what appeared to be quant but I could not scan it

tried relogging and still getting unscannables

[worthy scroll]

Yeah, busted rocks aren't unique to the belt, they're just more common there.

I'm of the opinion it's one of those things that has to do with server health. Try switching regions, to one that's on it's less populated times and see what happens.

[cobalt rivet]

has to be the moon, gonna go to lyria and get scannabkes watch

[ivory gust]

I've seen unscannables on Lyria

[cobalt rivet]

back to back unscannable even tho relog

going to lyria now after moments of getting unscannables, we will see if server or moon

def server

[worthy scroll]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's server health that causes it. Sometimes I could go anywhere and mine just fine, sometimes on a different log in I'd get dead rocks everywhere.

[cobalt rivet]

gonna try wala again

scanning works on lyria after relog going back to test wala

damn wala gots a lot of atacamite

[halcyon hemlock]

Can someone help me with a question? I've a prospec and using the Lancet, brandt, rieger and torrent 3. i've not been able to crack a rock above 5k mass that normal?

[ivory gust]

Yes, that's normal

Need surge/stampede in order to crack larger rocks

[halcyon hemlock]

don't need to improve my power plant...right?

[ivory gust]

No, the power plant has no effect

A naked Lancet can actually do up to around 5.7k if you're very patient, but note that your rieger is actually increasing the rock's resistance

[halcyon hemlock]

Got it! Thanks Chris! Appreciate the info

[rose light]

Is there a tool for trade routes? The few I've looked at seem to be outdated

[ivory gust]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[rose light]

I appreciate it. Thank you

[modern gate]

Any guide here for mining?

[ivory gust]

Check pins in this channel, or check youtube

[fading escarp]

You could try the RSI Spectrum Guide system.

[rugged axle]

Maaan I got lucky this morning. Was scouting the halo. Found a cluster of 8 rocks, 4 being 5k mass between 30-40%. Broke one. Noted the exact distance back to arc l1. And ended up finding it again in the mole to collect the other 3 high % rocks. Never thought I would be able to find the same spot twice lol

[fading escarp]

damn...

you should consider playing the lottery

unless you think you just spent your entire yearly alotment

decade*

[rugged axle]

Lottery doesn't give me distances :).

Jumped past the point. Then kept checking going back towards arc l1 doing a bunch of small quick jumps. Then just had to figure out up and down and left right. A BUNCH of 360* pings later. And found the cluster. Flew to it to verify and sure enough. Ended up with almost 100scu of quant.

Found a 2nd cluster while looking for that one, but it was unscannable so I thought I had lost it until I checked the distance again and noticed I was still like 100km away from where it should have been

[glacial dagger]

Oh dam, you really are a lucky SOB. I think that's all yoru luck gone for the next year or two...

[rugged axle]

I agree lol. Was a pretty insane chain of events honestly.

[vestal ravine]

Hello. My new Terracotta Molokov backpack is bugged. Had just a few items in but said the pack was 100% full. Have not checked Spectrum yet. Hit a good score on Daymar Aphorite some 7 stones yielded a $34,685.00 payout.

[crimson oak]

Anyone know how you can reliably spawn 2 SCU and larger containers? is there a certain amount of items you need to prefill the ship before the self destruct?

I just load in a core armour piece and i usually get a 1 SCU container

[vestal ravine]

I was just reading a pinned message about the Containers not sure if it mentioned the 2 SCU creation process. I know some people load in a missile to the Inventory maybe that's what it takes.

[idle yacht]

Been away for a week... Do ghost rocks in aaron still a problem or they fixed it?

[glacial dagger]

At least 6-8 large backpacks like the Novikov or Pembroke will spawn the 2SCU containers

[crimson oak]

ooo thats a good idea

[crimson oak]

thanks

[rugged axle]

@crimson oak you need 2 large backpacks, or 1 Pembroke undersuit to make a 2scu.

[crimson oak]

tnx

[rugged axle]

I typically use a Pembroke undersuit. Go to mining depot. Call in ground vehicle. Blow it up, rinse and repeat.

Also, if you have a friend online. You can each put a Pembroke in, and you get 2-2scu boxes. We have made 10 at a time using 9 other people and 10 Pembrokes.

[ivory gust]

You've sold stuff directly from that backpack, correct? It's bugged now. Dropping backpack on ground and re-equipping might fix it

In future don't sell directly from a backpack

[vestal ravine]

Chris, I was using it for storage only not selling. I'm going to dump this one and try another in a few days.

[ivory gust]

Ah, I've only heard of the "backpack showing full even when empty" thing after stuff has been sold directly from the backpack (at any point in the past). Not sure if there's something else that can trigger it.

Assuming your inventory filters aren't messed up, of course

[ivory gust]

A) Yes, unscannable rocks are still a problem. You can try getting in and out of your seat, it seems to fix it temporarily.
B) this is star Citizen, bugs don't get fixed on a weekly basis. Don't expect a fix for this any time in the next few months

[sleek torrent]

Anyone know of any active cargo running orgs?

[shut remnant]

are rocks persistent through servers? if i find a good qaunt rock can i find it again on another server?

[ivory gust]

No

[royal cairn]

I tried to do this but couldn’t find mine good job!

[subtle folio]

hey, any idea where i can sell like 16k medical supplies fast? all the places im going to are allowing me to sell like 100 every 10 mins... ill be here for days this way

[ivory gust]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[ruby shale]

can a ROC be repaired out in the open? mine broke down in the middle of mining lol

[dense shale]

can someone explain astroid pinging? i cant seem to gget it to work unless im really close to the astroid

[ivory gust]

If you're in mining mode and pinging at a result with 2 degree scan angle, and you're seeing a "white diamond" result instead of a "blue cube" result, then it's an unscannable asteroid

You can try getting out of the pilot's seat and back in, and it'll get rid of unscannables

[ivory gust]

Nope, you're doomed

[dense shale]

they are all blue cubes

or rock shaped blues when i get close

[ivory gust]

When within 12km of a blue cube, if you point right at it, use , and . keys to adjust your scan angle down to 2 degrees, and ping again, you should see details

[dense shale]

will try thx

[ivory gust]

Need to be in mining mode, not in scan mode

[dense shale]

yea was trying to figure ouot how to adjust the degree of scan since it's bound to mouse wheel

[ivory gust]

it's bound to . and , by default--if you're seeing mouse wheel adjust scan angle, you're in the wrong mode

[dense shale]

it does both laser intensity (bound to just mouse wheel) and the degree of scanning (bound to alt mousewheel)

not sure why but i see whats wrong noow

ii appreciate it

[idle knot]

i want trade drugs how

[ivory gust]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[idle knot]

thx

which one is drugs in the types

[ivory gust]

"Vice"

[idle knot]

thx again

[meager gorge]

So theirs this bind called scan angle, but you want to adjust the scan FOV. That’s what matters.

[foggy spear]

Look into e Tam and neon

[rugged axle]

You don't use scan. You use ping. It's two different things.

[north oyster]

The buyback is very slow, you will need to be patient. Start small. Trade isn't in a good place in the game right now. Probably about this time next year it'll be worth it

[north oyster]

I need to log in just so I can wear my new ZEUS EXPLORATION SUIT SOLAR!

[serene quest]

is there a no questions asked on cru4?

[glacial dagger]

I dont think so?

Migbht be though

[north oyster]

I missed that thread, what's that about?

[serene quest]

there is, I found it

[north oyster]

I understand the rentals out there are way cheaper

[glacial dagger]

Sweet, nice find

[serene quest]

galleria section, end of the locker room

[north oyster]

I've yet to make a pilgrimage to the new stations

[crimson oak]

that zeus suit is probably the closest thing to real life astronaut suits, real beefy looking as well.

i think it would look pretty awesome if it was a bit slimmed down more, wonder what the stats on it are like.

[serene quest]

yeah

currently waiting for a response from CIG

I imperator subbed for the suit specifically payment went through but I still have centurion

:/

which means I only got the one suit

also

anyone kinda weirded out by the fact that there are no cargo options between 16 and 24?

we get 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 12, 16, 24 lol

there needs to be a clean 20 scu boat

[rugged axle]

Suit looks good in game. It's HUGE though. Very nice It's a full suit including backpack though. Love that

[serene quest]

oh nice

[rugged axle]

I still hate everything goes to your home city, instead of where you currently are

[serene quest]

Can anyone give me the distance between Lyria and Cru5?

[ivory gust]

Suit backpack is 120k storage, but suit itself is only 8k, pretty small for a "full body" suit

The backpack is nice and slim though, compared to the other 120k backpacks

[glacial dagger]

Wait, so suites like the Novikov, pembroke and Morizov technically have more storage as a full suit?

[ivory gust]

finder.cstone.space will tell you the capacity. Pembroke only has 8k, Novikov has 22

Morozov isn't a full suit I don't think?

[glacial dagger]

The full suit, core arms, legs and backpack

[ivory gust]

Arms don't have storage, morozov core has 12k, legs have 7500

Aril Core has 15k, ADP core has 10500, Aril Legs have 10k

[ivory gust]

@edgy agate any laser other than Lancet will need to use a charge of the Brandt module, or a Sabir mining gadget, for every chunk you want to break.

Lancet is by far the easiest way to mine Quantanium.

[edgy agate]

alr, is there a way to mine rocks with more mass?

[ivory gust]

Use surge and stampede modules with the lancet

[edgy agate]

alr ty

[ivory gust]

Or impact laser with Brandt module, but I don't recommend that on a Prospector

[edgy agate]

alright

thank you

[edgy agate]

not seeing the surge module

[ivory gust]

It's not sold everywhere, check finder.cstone.space for where

[edgy agate]

alr

thank you again

[edgy agate]

is there anything I should mine besides quantanium?

[meager gorge]

Quantanium is the most profitable for prospector mining. Hadanite is most for ROC mining. Mole mining you can do other stuff like bexalite, but that’s better with a crew of 2+

[glacial dagger]

Bexalite is the next best, Borase is pretty good

[ivory gust]

Worth noting that "next best" Bexalite is half the value of Quantanium

[serene quest]

LOL

fucking furious

got that bug where your F sticks as you get in the cockpit

makes you look in a certain direction and you have to hit F to reset it

stuck straight down and I hit F and the game thought I wanted to eject

bye bye cargo

[serene quest]

is SLAM like fucked rn?
all the route tools are showing SLAM at 180 per to sell but it's barely above 150

nvm I see

it's wholly based on inventory, but shit that's a huge cut if the stock is high

[worthy scroll]

And good luck selling it anyway. The places that buy illicit cargo only take small quantities at a time, so if you have a large load, it takes forever to sell it.

[serene quest]

yeah they absolutely need to unfuck this

doesn't make sense that illicit drugs would ever be not in demand, its bad enough the stock amounts are low, but the fact that it's also shared with other servers is just crazy

[marble crater]

wouldn't hold your breath waiting for trade to change, been like this for a long time

[worthy scroll]

Cargo is going to become even less profitable once the cargo refactor comes, due to how slow it's going to make things.

[serene quest]

lets just hope that means the prices go up

professions need a lot of price balancing honestly

mining as it is, is pretty trash too

quant is too accessible

and the more rare precious metals are almost nonexistent

[worthy scroll]

Honestly we make way too much money right now. Totally not sustainable for any type of longevity in gameplay.

[serene quest]

Honestly I agree

Bounty hunting as profitable as it is, should stay relatively the same, until NPCs can communicate a bit better

I think that balance will come with increased difficulty

Quant needs to be rarer

[marble crater]

there's no balance now cause they're still making the game, they need people to test ships & gameplay loops

[serene quest]

Bexa to Agri need to be more accessible

[worthy scroll]

Well, things are going to slow way way way down as more systems come online. Being able to chain money making things back to back is pretty much going to go away eventually.

[serene quest]

I think the more common ores will become more profitable once quanta economy is really in

Mining is in a good place I think, in terms of mechanics and gameplay

just balancing is the real issue

Cargo needs missions

and Beacons

[marble crater]

Cargo needs PES, Quanta & Cargo refactor all of which don't exist right now

it's ages off from being actual gameplay

we have a barebones test bed as it stands

like most of the gameplay loops at the moment

[worthy scroll]

Mining is the most fleshed out we have right now, but it's nowhere near complete.

[serene quest]

yea once Quantum economy really comes in, I think that'll be when we start to see a big bump in cargo and lower ore

[worthy scroll]

Maybe. Remember that we're also supposed to have escorts, and you have to pay them. Unless you get people do that for free.

Also crew, which we don't really have right now.

[cobalt rivet]

The intended work wage vs the player meta do not coincide, so you will likely see cheaper wages for NPCs compared to players

assuming NPC escorts will be a thing

also NPC AI is shit

[marble crater]

pay $10K for a t posing gunner lol

[worthy scroll]

Just saying, there will be overhead costs, in addition to the small ones we have now, like fuel. Mining, or running cargo, will be like operating small businesses.

[cobalt rivet]

t pose gunner died for our sins

[serene quest]

True, which would mean consistency in gameplay to turn a reasonable profit. There's a reason focused Orgs like Lost Corp have a metric shit ton of cash lol.

Not the game for the player with little time lol

[worthy scroll]

Star Citizen isn't going to be a game for the player with little time.

[rugged ledge]

I tried solo MOLE mining today, and ran into a few issues. As far as I could tell, from the pilot seat, I couldn't do long range scanning in order to identify Q-type rocks (unless I'm doing something wrong). However, in one of the mining turrets, I could. But the FOV of the mining turrets was incredibly limited, and even when I could identify a Q-type rock, it was hard to re-locate it once I moved from turret back to pilot seat. Am I doing something wrong?

[worthy scroll]

It's not so much that you're doing something wrong, you're just trying to solo a ship that really needs another person to work right.

[rugged ledge]

Thanks for the response. Just to confirm, you cannot identify rock type long range from the pilot seat?

[worthy scroll]

From what I've heard here several times (I haven't been in a Mole myself since it was new), that's currently how its scanning works.

[serene quest]

I can't speak for the Mole, but just about every other ship can identify a rock under 12km

Never had an issue in my Prossy or any other ship I happened to be flying in

[rugged ledge]

Can you explain how it's supposed to work? I increase radar FOV to 360 to find rocks, then lower to 2 percent on the rock I want to scan within 12km and hit TAB again to use radar. Unfortunately, that didn't display anything when piloting the MOLE. That same tactic worked when I was in one of the mining turrets.

[modern gate]

Morning guys, your friendly noob here 🙂 Have a couple of questions today. I got a prospector. I equipped everything per recommendations. I just got to get one more thing in the morning. Where do I get more storage containers for the prospector? They are detachable, and my friend will come to collect them in my cutlass black.

[worthy scroll]

That doesn't work yet. Currently you have to go to a refinery, refine the ore, and then you have to use a cargo ship you yourself own or has rented, to take the goods to sell.

[modern gate]

Ahhh so mine, refine, load on ship, sell

[worthy scroll]

Yarp

[modern gate]

Awesome. Thank you

[worthy scroll]

Eventually it'll get more involved, but that's how it works right now.

[modern gate]

I'm super excited to try out mining. I got a prospector. Looked up a few guides and super pumped to try it out

[worthy scroll]

It's fun. One of the more relaxing gameplay loops.

[modern gate]

I figured I could do this method to save up for a mole.

[tame elbow]

Lmao literally what I told him in #star-citizen

Just didn't believe me I guess

[worthy scroll]

Guess it doesn't hurt to get a second opinion.

[modern gate]

I was recommended to ask here.

It's not that I didn't believe you I just wanted to make sure I wasn't being trolled. I play Tarkov way to much to not have trust issues

[worthy scroll]

Lmao, I totally see that.

[tame elbow]

I don't think it would look good if a moderator trolled a new player in chat but I get where you're coming from

[modern gate]

I didn't even know you were a mod, tbh.

[worthy scroll]

Oh, I get where he's coming from. I've been in servers where the mods are some of the worst people in the server.

[tame elbow]

[worthy scroll]

You're safe, I'm no longer in those servers 😉

[modern gate]

I also play rust a lot. So the advice I get with new mechanics isn't always so accurate either.

Though I've noticed generally the advice I receive is helpful in star citizens

[worthy scroll]

To be fair, you'll see a lot of that in the SC community too. Not here, at least not in specific rooms, but you'll see it in some, and especially in game. Though, you'll still find very helpful people there as well.

[modern gate]

So far today I didn't destroy my ship once! That's down from 32 times on day 1 and 8 times yesterday xD

[worthy scroll]

As the community around this game grows, the type of players are becoming more diverse, and it's slowly becoming the "normal" gaming crowd that you see in most games these days.

[modern gate]

Yuck, I hope it's not as toxic as rocket league has gotten.

[worthy scroll]

It's generally a much older crowd here, but there are still cases.

[ivory gust]

Uh...no? Only the Prospector can do that because it has mining mode in the pilot seat. A ROC probably could too, but if you're in the pilot seat of a ROC in the belt you have bigger problems

[worthy scroll]

A ROC probably could too, but if you're in the pilot seat of a ROC in the belt you have bigger problems
Or had one heck of a party.

[ivory gust]

You're doing it right, it's just that the MOLE can't tell rock type from 12km in the belt, no. That requires mining mode.

When solo MOLE mining I recommend Lyria instead, since there you're just looking for clusters and can do that just fine without mining mode.

[ivory gust]

I think it's not so much that we make too much right now, it's that the money faucets are plentiful and the money sinks are almost entirely absent, and certainly don't balance the faucets.

[worthy scroll]

Yeah, that's true.

[rugged ledge]

Thanks for the suggestion, Chris. I'll give this a try later. And thanks for confirming. Was getting really confused, and frustrated.

[serene quest]

sry idk if it was mentioned, you have to have the mining arm out

you won't be able to tell what kind of rock it is without the mining scanner.

so when you try, do the same thing, just pull out the arm first

you should see a rock "type" show up

M, E, P types

Q is what you're looking for

[ivory gust]

He's in a Mole. He doesn't have a mining arm from the pilot's seat

[serene quest]

that's right!

haha

totally forgot about that lol

I mean he could TECHNICALLY cruise at a very high altitude slowly and move into the mining arm

[marble crater]

Lyria is the best pick for solo Mole, if you see a cluster, it's Quant

[ivory gust]

Scanning that way doesn't work on a moon, only in the asteroid belt.

you can't see rock type from a distance on moons

[serene quest]

interestin

[vestal ravine]

I just bought ONE of the bright orange Zues suits and there is TWO in my home inventory!

[ivory gust]

you got one for free just for being a subscriber

[vestal ravine]

Ohhh well then great!!

[fluid sun]

just retrieved my first load from the refinery.. expected to have crates in my ship.. is that not the case?

thought i had seen that in videos anyway, maybe that's after cargo refactor

[ivory gust]

Quant doesn't appear as crates. Everything else does

It's just quant that's bugged

[cobalt rivet]

Quant go in your butt

[foggy spear]

What happens in klesher, stays in klesher.

[hoary hinge]

checking erkul, it appears the 400i has zero cargo capacity. is that correct?

[civic portal]

It does have 42scu

[hoary hinge]

thanks erkul

[hoary hinge]

thanks mate, a bit of lazy trucking goes alright even though I mostly just dogfight

[civic portal]

Sometimes a little bit of space trucking while watching Netflix is the best thing that can happen to one

[misty coyote]

Much older?! Pfft....... Whipper snappers are the problem these days.... Not like in my....

Oh no.....

[twilit dragon]

Ohno

[elfin heath]

Can someone explain what a good mass + % average of quant is if i am looking to mine a rock? I've spent almost a hour looking found a ton but they are all less than 1-% quant but i haven't been paying much attention to mass

I forgot where i got the info from but typically if it's less than 30% quant it's not worth it?

[pearl mulch]

Mass * (quantium percentage / 100) you want to end up at around 1600 for a prospector full

for example a 4000 mass rock with 40% quant

4000 * 0,40 = 1600

[elfin heath]

I've just ran the stats on this site & i'm a bit confused, is it the mineral SCu that will take up my prospectors cargo

[pearl mulch]

yea

you see that rock is 122,57 scu of quant

you need 1600 for a full prospecter

so not worth mining that

[elfin heath]

Yeah that's what i thought, my prospect can hold 32.00 SCU in mineral correct

So i want that mineral number as close to that as possible if not above

[pearl mulch]

yup

the 32 scu from the prospector converts to 16 scu quant on the website for some reason

so just remember to aim for about 4000 mass 40% quant for a full load

[elfin heath]

Thanks! I've been having super bad luck today regarding quant, over a hour and not s single rock worth mining

[pearl mulch]

where ya mining?

[elfin heath]

Lyria

[pearl mulch]

should be fine on lyria

sometimes server hopping helps for me, but tbh its just luck

[elfin heath]

This is what i think someone told me a while ago, i took a big break now i'm back to learning it all again

[elfin heath]

Yeah i'm scanning this last hill side the hoping

Times money after all & that's a hour down the drain

[pearl mulch]

You should deff be able to find a good rock in way under an hour once you get it down

most important thing, a cluster of 2 rocks or more means its quantanium on Lyria

[elfin heath]

So mineral SCU is what i will get from that rock & be able to carry in my prospector, Income SCU is if i sold it in it's raw state, Refined SCU is what i would get if it's refined

My question is what is the SCU number on the right represent?

[pearl mulch]

no clue tbh

but just look at the mineral scu and your fine

[elfin heath]

My mate who showed me this site ages ago told me there is 1 thing on it i don't need to pay attention to, it's a load of crap... I would assume it's that 😅

Anyways thanks for the help, gona try my luck with a server hop

[pearl mulch]

👍 gl

[elfin heath]

60+ Rock, a hour & 30 mins & not a single one over 10% worth mining

Did they nerf Lyria or something?

[elfin heath]

Is there any other planet good for Quant other than Lyria?

[gentle brook]

I could come scout for you

Pay me a little and I'll be happy.

[elfin heath]

Talk to me

[fading escarp]

Question of luck ...

[gentle brook]

Depends on what you make off whatever I find. I'm not greedy. Or if I find a large enough cluster or rock you can wait at it and I can backspsce and get my own prospector

[elfin heath]

Let me do this quick MRT then i'll hop in a VC if you're still down, we can figure something out

[gentle brook]

Np

You should consider changing your discord name to whatever your star citizen name is

[cold ingot]

im new to mining can anyone help out? and help explain it to me im new to the game and rented the cutlass and bought a roc but idk wtf im doing

[fading escarp]

sure, let me get sorted

[cold ingot]

sweet thank you

[fading escarp]

join Guide - Mining

[elfin heath]

Mining expedition ?

[restive thorn]

Who

[north oyster]

There are some good guides on ROC mining via Red Monster SC and a few other talents.

I'll be glad to give you some basic info and tips

More is caught than taught, so it'll take a few hours in the seat

Also, at the refinery store, buy the Pembroke armor set (under undersuits category) and also the Pembroke helmet

[cold ingot]

where can you get the armor tho?

[vestal ravine]

Daymar has good weather conditions you don't need a climate suit and I mined a great Aphorite cluster with the ROC and cashed in $34,685.00 recently.

[vestal ravine]

The Pembroke at the L1 refinery stations and the Novicheck? at the three cargo stations.

[cold ingot]

the helmets as well my helmet glitched and i only have the suit

[dense shale]

what do i do with astroids i cant scan? I just found a huge group (9) of astroids that visually look like they have quant, but cant scan them. If i use my laser i cant see the charge bar.

[marble crater]

just gotta move on & keep looking, unscannables is a common bug in mining

[north oyster]

How to find anything in Star Citizen:
https://finder.cstone.space/

Also, for the Pembroke armor/helmet, any refinery store (all L1 stations, a few others scattered about). And also Tammany&Sons

[north oyster]

You will want to mine on Aberdeen for hadanite. Best spot in the Stanton system by far

[cold ingot]

Awesome thanks guys I appreciate it

[thin escarp]

@elfin heath are you just flying and scanning at random

or using the new active pinging method

i have a video pinned in this channel that will help you scouting for rocks on lyria

[elfin heath]

Going to a mining facility on Lydia then pining at 90

[thin escarp]

thats why you aren't finding anything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7bVXJPEawc

[elfin heath]

Man mining is soul destroying this wipe, never had so many issues, can't put my gadget in my hand because the hand icon refuses to show, i've put it on the floor & now i can't grab it....

[ivory gust]

That's not how you use gadgets...

Put it on your backpack and pull it out with 4

But yeah, can't pick it up now

[calm egret]

that number is the total SCU of the rock. 49.03 + 73.54 = 122.57

[zenith maple]

or put it on your leg slot

[ivory gust]

Gadgets are terrible, I recommend avoiding them if at all possible

[elfin heath]

So is 4 the only way to hold it? i saw in a youtube video the dude dragged it onto his hands like a gun from invetory screen but i did not get the option, not sure if inventory was bugging out in general

It was on my back originally but i press 1-4 nothing happened, couldnt drag via inventory so i tried the floor & it didn't work

[elfin heath]

I want to explore more aspects of the game personally and as a solo miner i see the usage for them

[ivory gust]

Are you in armistice?

[ivory gust]

They're not needed, lancet + Surge + Stampede can mine just about anything solo

Without the hassle of gadgets

Sure, a working gadget can help mine something, but they're too expensive, too easily lost to bugs, and take too long to set up imo

[topaz coyote]

How many stampede's for a 7.5k mass rock or higher?

[ivory gust]

1

2x surge to get into the green, then 1 stampede to finish it

[elfin heath]

How do i put my gadget away?

[glacial dagger]

Which gadget are you using?

[elfin heath]

Handheld

[glacial dagger]

Yes, but is it a placeable mining gadget or a hand tool?

[ivory gust]

Hold R

[elfin heath]

placeable

[glacial dagger]

Hold 'F', look at the item and click 'equip'

Holding 'R' on the placable mining gadgets is funky at best

[elfin heath]

What does R do? i tried F already

[glacial dagger]

Holding 'R' is supposed to stow the item/tool/weapon currently in your hands. If you have an available slot on your person, it will get placed there

[ivory gust]

Note you need to hold it, not just tap it, for that to work

[elfin heath]

That's assuming the game decides to work itself 😅

Lost my first one cause the inventory bugged (endless buffer) & i couldn't do any inventory interactions... 🥲

[ivory gust]

Yep, like I said, too easy to lose gadgets to bugs, that's one of the reasons I avoid them

[dense shale]

If a quant rock cracks slightly in the red, do you get less yield?

seems like it does the way the math works out

[glacial dagger]

Yes

[dense shale]

and it seems like dinix quotes vary and can be arounnd 93% yield or less- the internet says it should be 95%

[glacial dagger]

And the higher into it the less you get

I think if your within like 30%-40% of the red zone, you will get 0 quant from it

Oh, and also a pretty nasty explosion

[dense shale]

yea i found that out a while ago:)

but yea seems like eveen a little sliver into the read and you take a pretty big loss

[ivory gust]

What station? Some stations have bonuses or penalties to Quant yield

[dense shale]

ARC L1 of course 🙂

I'm getting differrent yield % each run from the same station

it is definitly varable, but i don't know if that's something i can controle

for dinix anyways

it's not like i'll have time to shop around for buyers and those little jerks probably know that lol

[nocturne adder]

Do mining modules disappear after a reclaim?

[ivory gust]

Yes

[nocturne adder]

Thanks

[fallow cedar]

Is there a fast way to the TDD on area 18 w/o the train?

[glacial dagger]

Negative

[hard tulip]

is trading only worth it if you have a ship like the C2 which can hold a lot of cargo

[worthy scroll]

It's more worth it as you get bigger with your ships. I make around 100k give or take per run with a Caterpillar. A C2 will make more.

And faster too, because it's spanks all over the Cat in speed and maneuvering.

[hard tulip]

yea i want to trade to make money because its easy but my biggest ship is 96 scu

[worthy scroll]

What ship do you have, Raft?

[hard tulip]

connie

just gonna bounty hunt

[worthy scroll]

So, with 96scu you could potentially make 57k a run. But because of how stock works, not really. So realistically you're probably looking maybe 20-30k a run, because you'll have to step down to the next best thing.

[hard tulip]

yeah might as well just do group hrt

[delicate relic]

not sure if this is the correst place but here goes, is the freelancer dur gonna have a way to refuel qt, or is that big refinery for refueling just hydrogen?

[worthy scroll]

I'm going to guess hydrogen. Quantum fuel comes from quantanium, which is a mining thing. So, to use it (later once we have more of the game), you'll likely want to use an extremely efficient quantum drive, and then you can grab hydrogen as you go.

[delicate relic]

rodger that!

thanks

[worthy scroll]

Props for bringing up the DUR though. One of my favorite ships and it's one that nobody talks about.

[delicate relic]

I am trying to figure out if I use a ship by it self so pick something larger, or get the liberator and use smaller parasite ships to increase its explorer capabilities for 1-3 friends playing.

[ivory gust]

Carrack. Does both

[rugged ledge]

Had a refinery work ahead that I had delivered to a stored C2 at the station. Retrieved the C2, and the cargo hold is empty. Did I do it wrong? Did all the refined ore from yesterday's mining just go poof?

[delicate relic]

my friend already has a carrack and bmm, so he is limiting my options lol.

[foggy spear]

Quantainium does not show up. Check the trade terminal at the sale point. I really wish the would implement a panel with a cargo manifest.

[spring prism]

You (and I) lucked out if you only recently started. There was a medical ship offered with that king-kong styled shooter/avoidance minigame if you got a high score over a certain amount. The promo for it ended, and you can't get either medical ship currently.

An appropriate cargo ship to complement the carrack would be either a cutlass black or the freelancer max. if you have a lot of money already though, C2's the end-game currently.

[vestal ravine]

Transferring a bunch of Hadanite from roc to backpack loading screens persist. What to do?

[cobalt rivet]

Why you transfer

[delicate relic]

ya I just was looking at the apollo and seeing that made me cry a little inside ( also that I started like w week or so after a free referral code lti ship...

[cobalt rivet]

Just sell straight from ship

[delicate relic]

I think.

[vestal ravine]

Safer in backpack

[cobalt rivet]

Park the ship with roc inside, on landing pad at mining station, run into admin pod and sell

[vestal ravine]

Another ship was around me got freaked out.

[spring prism]

You can also Impound by hovering in front of a closed hangar without calling ATC. Takes almost a minute, but your cargo stays. People do it all the time for Quant

Oh, you're using a roc. /shrug

[cobalt rivet]

Its very rare someone would just blow your ship up at mining outpost

[vestal ravine]

I am out in the field was mining

The inv screens say zero should I hit exit?

[rugged ledge]

Thanks for clarifying that! I’ll just trust it’s in there.

[covert sun]

Hey guys, I'm trying to get into mining right now. I did a mining run earlier today and learned from a video how to refine the most valuable ores. However the video said to only refine certain valuables. What should I do with the rest? I tried selling the unrefined ore but I didn't get it as an option at Area 18. I couldn't even select my rented ship (prospector) in the trading terminal.

[cosmic sparrow]

you still on?

[covert sun]

Yes, just started a new mining run

[cosmic sparrow]

want me to make a room? I can help you out if you'd like.

[covert sun]

Sure, I'd appreciate that!

[ivory gust]

You can't sell some stuff and refine the rest. If you choose to refine only part of your load, the rest is discarded.

The reason to discard the less valuable stuff when refining is so you can carry more of the good stuff in a single trip to sell it, given finite carrying capacity

[modern gate]

Anyone have any tips in locating Quant?

[ivory gust]

go to lyria, look for clusters, or go to the belt and look for q-types

[modern gate]

I've done one video that recommends between Hurston and Arc l1

Though I've had terrible luck only locating one Q cluster that had a 15% quant

And would it more profitable to use a mole or prospector?

[ivory gust]

Prospector much easier if you're just starting

MOLE theoretically can be more profitable even solo but is harder

[modern gate]

I would have my friend in the Mole as well

[ivory gust]

two prospectors are probably better than one mole tbh

since you can spread out and scan more

are you adjusting the ping angle when scanning to be able to see the type from up to 12km away? that's key in the belt to finding good stuff

[modern gate]

@ivory gust what is considered the good stuff? Also is quant volatile after refining it?

[ivory gust]

Quant is worth 2x the next highest. https://uexcorp.space/mining to see other values.

Quant is stable after refining

[serene quest]

I'd argue that one mole and the buddy on a scout is probably better.

[ivory gust]

But also significantly more expensive

[serene quest]

Ah are thy considering pledging for a mole?

[obsidian shard]

just wanna say that i absolutely adore the hull a, can't wait for the B and C

[fluid sun]

do passive modules come with a reclaimed ship?

[errant dew]

nope

[misty coyote]

I've looked at the Hull A, and the total SCU just isn't alot...Again, like the RAFT vs Freelancer MAX, the MAX just is better...

If they could fit 1 more cargo crate, then the Hull A and the RAFT would totally make sense vs the MAX which can take vehicles too

[spring prism]

No modules do. Only actual equipment like the mining head/laser itself.

Speaking of mining heads/lasers. A while back I saw 6 of them sitting around in the refinery store. But they were all store items to purchase, rather than someone's dropped items.

[modern gate]

Anyone have the link that calculates the amount of profit you get from bars?

[north oyster]

What bars are you speaking about?

[modern gate]

Quant

I have 3815 of them 😮

Which is a pretty good haul for my first time I think

[north oyster]

Multiple is 88

That's refined

[modern gate]

awesome thanks 🙂

[north oyster]

Guessing you were in a MOLE, but yes, congrats on the haul

[modern gate]

Nah multiple prospector trips

though I'

I'm getting bettter!

my last haul was 26scu

of it 😄

[north oyster]

Ok, you can use the rule of thumb of about 250k aUEC per trip in the Prospector

Max is 275k

That's what we call a Unicorn

Where are you refining at? ARC-L1 or CRU?

[modern gate]

ArC l1

[modern gate]

I read a guide it said Lyria was a good place to mine quant however I had no luck lol

[barren marsh]

I have better luck finding Q rocks in the belt than on Lyria

[gentle brook]

you gotta know how to scan properly, which alot of people dont seem to understand or even know about. all my quant has come from lyria and ive always had more than enough for me and my friends

[cobalt rivet]

[gentle brook]

lyria is the only planet that quant is the only rock that spawns in clusters. this makes it very easy to find

[cobalt rivet]

Yi

Mine in regional servers where people are asleep, you get more

[royal cairn]

I need to try this

[hollow sedge]

how can i sell my diamonds?

[barren marsh]

I refine them and sell in a city

You can also sell them raw in the refinery, but you get less

[hollow sedge]

where can i refine it?

[normal flax]

Where's prime Quant deposit locations. I've been to the Aaron Halo a few times in the past couple days and have been striking out

[hollow sedge]

where is Aaron Halo?

i mean what moon

[normal flax]

@hollow sedge Aaron Halo is a dense asteroid belt. Its in deep space between ARC L1 and Hurston.

Its about 13.6 Million km from Hurston (leaving from ARC L1) and about 6.7 Million KM from ARC L1 leaving Hurston

Supposedly its the best location for Quantanium in all of Stanton

[hollow sedge]

umm

[cobalt rivet]

Halo used to be the best

13.7.1 was crazy amount of quant rocks in halo

Now overshadowed by unminable bugged ones

[normal flax]

That pissed me off the most

[cobalt rivet]

You can still find quant there but its nowhere as easy as it once was

[normal flax]

Half the quant i found i couldn't mine

Id have a Jump if I could mine all the quant I missed, deadass

[hollow sedge]

i cant see halo on map

[cobalt rivet]

Cause its not charted

[normal flax]

Its not visible on map

[hollow sedge]

how can i get there

[cobalt rivet]

You have to guestimate your QT Break to enter it

[hollow sedge]

oof

nvm

i go look for a new place

[normal flax]

From ARC-L1
-Set course for Hurston

• break Quantum Drive at ~13.6 Million KM from Hurston

[cobalt rivet]

Its roughly 14.5 - 13.5 million km left on route from Arccorp to Hurston

[normal flax]

From Hurston

• Set course for ARC-L1
• Break Quantum at about ~6.7 million km from ARC L1

[cobalt rivet]

Belt is pretty thicc

[hollow sedge]

how can i do that?

[worthy scroll]

Hold down the quantum button.

[cobalt rivet]

You can break QT by pressing B

Or whatever keybind you set QT to

[hollow sedge]

i mean - break Quantum Drive at ~13.6 Million KM from Hurston

[cobalt rivet]

While you travel, it counts the distance left

[worthy scroll]

Hold down the button when the icon you have on Hurston reaches 13.6Mkm.

[normal flax]

First fly to ARC-L1

^^^^

[hollow sedge]

im at ARC-L1

[normal flax]

Set course for Hurston and when you're about 13.6M from Hurston, press hold B key

You don't have to be exactly on 13.6 you can be off by a few KM

But don't go like 100K over

[hollow sedge]

idk where i can see its 3.6m

[cobalt rivet]

[normal flax]

I've been saying KM this whole time I think I meant meters

[cobalt rivet]

Press left alt f4 to bring marker up

[hollow sedge]

ahh

jk

[hollow sedge]

umm

[cobalt rivet]

No its km

[normal flax]

Oh

I was right then disregard

[cobalt rivet]

It doesnt measure in m until you reach destination

[hollow sedge]

now i am 16.4m km away from hurston

[normal flax]

Ok so hit B key at 13.6 away from Hurston

[hollow sedge]

ok

[normal flax]

Have you ever mined Quantanium?

[hollow sedge]

ok...

im 13.68km away

[glacial dagger]

I am 14m from your door

[hollow sedge]

@normal flax

[normal flax]

Ok do you see rocks around you?

[hollow sedge]

yes

[normal flax]

Congrats you're in the Aaron Halo

[hollow sedge]

but you said there is a staition where i can refine my diamonds

[glacial dagger]

Can Diamond be refined?

[normal flax]

We never said there was a station in Aaron Halo....

[hollow sedge]

umm

[normal flax]

Its an asteroid belt...

The nearest station for refining from you is ARC L1

Specifically the Wide Forest facility at ARC L1

[hollow sedge]

i only see Wide Forest station

@normal flax

im at the Wide Forest station now

i got my diamonds or what ever that is in my ROC

How can i refine them now???

[normal flax]

Go to the refinery at Wide Forest. Take the elevator,
The refinery is above the store

[hollow sedge]

can we go in a prv cann so you can show me

@normal flax

[normal flax]

I am not home right now so I cannot

[hollow sedge]

ok

[normal flax]

@hollow sedge https://youtu.be/ux8_qUVJ2jk

That video explains it

Obviously you'll be doing Diamonds and not Quantanium but same process

[hollow sedge]

what ship is he using

[normal flax]

Prospector

Which is required if you're mining in space

[hollow sedge]

ok thanks

@normal flax in the video he said i have to collect a vehicle ( a ship ) but i have my ore in my ROC

[modern gate]

Ark L1 to what city to sell?

for Quant?

[normal flax]

Right. For the purpose of the video, skip to the part where he's at the refinery, you'll be able to select your ROC and refine the diamonds its holding

[normal flax]

I think closest would be Lorville

Its the same price at all 3 big cities

88 aUEC per 1 Quantanium

[hollow sedge]

no i cant

i cant select my ROC

[normal flax]

Ohhhhhhhhh you're ground mining

[hollow sedge]

yesss

[normal flax]

What planet were you mining on?

[hollow sedge]

umm 1 sec

Lyria

[normal flax]

I'm not familiar with diamond ground mining

I think to refine diamonds you'll need to transfer them to a ship that can fly to refineries. Unless there's a refinery on Lydia

*lyria

[hollow sedge]

bruh

how can i get them on a ship

[cobalt rivet]

Diamonds are gems they dont need refining

You collect and sell

[normal flax]

Like I was saying you don't need to refine diamonds just sell

😂

Poor Kalle being sent on a wild goose chase

[cobalt rivet]

You see 💎 icon that means gem

It would be smarter to just create a voice channel and stream your game

So to better guide

People who do this will generally get better instructions

[hollow sedge]

i did

so?

[ivory gust]

You don't have diamonds in your ROC, you have something else. That's why you've been getting told the wrong thing, because you said you had something else...

If you're on the station and your ROC is in the hold of your ship, you may be able to sell from the Admin console on the galleria level of the station. Look for the yellow wall/door

If your ROC doesn't appear there, you need to go to a mining outpost on a moon, pull the ROC out of the back, and then find the "Storage" building. Walk inside and there's a terminal you can sell from.

Also, if you had just looked up a tutorial two hours ago instead of asking here, you would've been fine

[vestal ravine]

Blue spinning circle inventory lock up review: I was trying to transfer gems in the "field" from the ROC to my backpack. Then the inventory screens locked up. I exited the inventory and went to the mining station. The gems sold there okay but could not remove the backpack, drink water or anything really. So I had to abandon the session and left 50K Hadanite unmined. (One of the Hadanites was 99% pure) Bummer but this is Star Citizen Alpha mode. Crying in my oatmeal.

[ivory gust]

ROC mining is in a rough place right now. Servers are super unstable and ROC doesn't get 30k protection, and then if you try to transfer the stuff to save it you might run into that

[normal flax]

Honest question, im looking to buy a good cargo hauler standalone. Bang for buck im down to two options

Argo Raft
MISC Freelancer Max

Which is the best option?

[jovial matrix]

Prolly freelancer MAX. More cargo space, and is more versatile than the raft

[worthy scroll]

Yep, the Freelancer we will get you more in the current state of the game.

[ivory gust]

Taurus

[worthy scroll]

True, if his budget allows for it.

[north oyster]

The MAX can be used for multiple roles while the RAFT is a one trick pony. While the RAFT is a nice ship, the MAX will allow you to mine with the ROC, Run small trades, carry refined ore to market, do bounty hunting and more. And she's the best price on cost per SCU out there in this category.

Have both the Taurus and the MAX, the MAX is my go to

[hollow sedge]

out of curiosity, can rented prospectors be set up to mine quant?

[north oyster]

no

[hollow sedge]

😦

sadge

[north oyster]

Well, not easily

[hollow sedge]

oh?

[north oyster]

The attachments that you can place on the rock will help

[hollow sedge]

ohh I forgot they added that

[worthy scroll]

Or add a second rented Prospector. 🙂

[north oyster]

best to not rent a Prospector, rent a ROC and Cutlass Black

Then save up and buy both later

[ivory gust]

Doesn't actually help since it doesn't reduce the instability

[north oyster]

yeah, that would require an external attached device

[hollow sedge]

God bless the queen's soul

[ivory gust]

#off-topic-not-sc

[burnt lodge]

Hello I just got into cargo hauling with the c2, got a decent route right now netting between 60 and 75k every 10 mins or so.

Was wondering if anyone could share a route that pretty much always fills up that's better than what I do now

[serene quest]

@north oyster have you tried asteroid mining today?

[north oyster]

Not today, sadly I might not get a chance until this weekend

[serene quest]

check this out

4 scannables

all only 1 rock

none scannable

[north oyster]

That's about par, sadly

[serene quest]

now after getting up and sitting down

all gone

every one of em

has been like this the last 10 minutes

[north oyster]

Oh, nice!

[ivory gust]

try a different band of the halo

[serene quest]

isn't it! 😄

[ivory gust]

and yeah, more server load = worse Halo mining experience, so with free fly on that makes sense