industrial-professions

[glacial dagger]

it kinda is. Put in the commodity you want to trade

Choose where to buy from

Choose where to sell to

[cobalt rivet]

ah ok, i had to click on commodities

[glacial dagger]

Yup

Feel free to have a look around some of the other commodities

[north oyster]

The Buy/Sell is default, not accurate at this time

Also, don't go for Laranite, it isn't there

in quantities

[cobalt rivet]

so what do I do, buy them at terminal, then fly to destination TDD and sell?

[glacial dagger]

Something I like to do with my C2 is go to a location, buy all the laranite I can (normally about 40SCU if that) and then fill the rest up with Titanium

[north oyster]

yes, that simple

[glacial dagger]

Yup, that's pretty much how trading works

The only downside is if you get a bad 30k or your game crashes and not the server, there's a chance you could lose your entire cargo and your wallet will start feeling pretty tight

[north oyster]

The Heartbeat setup in the game works really well against 30K crashes, it's the client crash that doesn't survive

[glacial dagger]

Idk, I have still had some 30k server crashes that heartbeat wasn't able to snag

Sure it works for the majority of the time, but sometimes some players get to slip through the cracks

[north oyster]

it is often a timing then, the heartbeat is taken about every 5 minutes at this time I believe

PES (persistent entity streaming) should be the end of the 30k lost of cargo. Here's hoping

[glacial dagger]

Yh, here's hoping

I wonder how many features I have said that phrase for by now in SC

[north oyster]

3.18 will have enough changes that it literally will be a different game as to backhaul services. Any other company would be changing the version number

It's so large that they're now about two months behind their earlier stated goal

it'll be 3 months behind when it does come out for testing in the PTU

I guess that's why they are trying to polish 3.17.2 more because it will be the build for this year

[marble crater]

the thought of this patch being it till the end of the year is a bit meh

[cobalt rivet]

how much can you normally buy for a C2,. I just bought like 250,000 worth but thats me sliding the slider to max

is it based on how much is available

[marble crater]

stock is shared across all servers so you run the gamble of how many others have just bought where you are. Trade Tools should show a restock rate to check when you can buy again & how much

[cobalt rivet]

ah ok

[marble crater]

any of the popular Youtube spots will usually have very little available as a result

[glacial dagger]

When mixing Laranite with Titanium, my C2 runs normally cost jsut over 520k to buy and can sell for up to 650k

[cobalt rivet]

hm...

think ill just mine or bunkers lol

[glacial dagger]

nahh bro. With the right capital (starting money) you can totally get into hauling

100k-120k profit margines is never something to sniff at

[cobalt rivet]

just exploring options in case mining and bunkers get borked at the same time

[warped nest]

what is a good base investment with hauling?

[cobalt rivet]

assuming you can buy 1mil worth

[glacial dagger]

For titanium, be start becoming viable around the 60k profit mark, so about 350k capital

[cobalt rivet]

I feel like I wasted money on C2, should have just bought A2

[warped nest]

Any quantanium alternatives for prospector mining?

[cobalt rivet]

no, quant is leader by 2x the next best

but mining quant is easy, why would you want alternative

are you on a rental or something

[warped nest]

nah just wondering

aaron halo best place?

[cobalt rivet]

halo WAS the best place

but im sure they fked with it cause it was too easy

[warped nest]

where is it now?

[cobalt rivet]

Lyria

just scout at max speed and look for rocks that pop up in groups of 2 or more

dont need to scan

just ping and fly over

have your mining laser out

that methods been proven to be more effective than scanning XD

[north oyster]

Halo isn't bad but you need to master the angle ping tuning to make quick turns

The rise of the server cap, events, server health, etc all play a big part in there being a lot of dud scans

[cobalt rivet]

halo is def safer, no trolls find you out there unless you really unlicky

or stupid and streaming your map

[north oyster]

Unless they have you in a group, you can't really be found in the Halo

[cobalt rivet]

but honestly I have yet to be attacked while actively mining

[royal cairn]

It’s only when you go to refine or haul when you need to worry. Someone was pirating arc l1 in a few servers I was in but never got me.

[cobalt rivet]

u gotta be smart about how you plot your route

[royal cairn]

Yeah no straight line

[cobalt rivet]

its almost impossible for them to stop you unless you take a generic route

[glacial dagger]

Nahh, C2 is the best cargo ship in the game

Plus you can carry 3x tonks in there 😄

[north oyster]

Pirating won't be a real issue until about this time next year (or later)

[glacial dagger]

Mmm, cargo refactor is gonna be goooood

[cobalt rivet]

I only ever transport less than 20 scu of quant at any given time, I think the A2 would have suffice

[north oyster]

it's going to be a soulcrushing mess for awhile

[cobalt rivet]

yeah, cargo refactor gonna make transporting super dangerous

cause now they can just steal your load instead of losing it

[royal cairn]

I hate the small hangars when hauling with my c2, are they going to change that or keep it the same?

[cobalt rivet]

its an easy landing bro!

[glacial dagger]

That's why you do loads of qunt mining, build up like 400SCu worth and then haul it

[cobalt rivet]

nah thats too much quant to risk in one trip

[glacial dagger]

I believe the Hercs should be getting upgraded to the larger hangers

[cobalt rivet]

i make 1 mil in one trip I am happy

shit I meant to say 100 scu not 20

I get the units confused

nevertheless, I only use a small fraction of the cargo in the C2

I would have benefitted more from the A2s guns

sure the A2 would be capable of transporting my normal loads

[warped nest]

is the freelancer max a good ship to buy for long term SC?

[cobalt rivet]

its not a good combat ship

benefits are in the cargo

[warped nest]

yeah i mostly want to do cargo/ROC mining

[cobalt rivet]

not sure you can fit a ROC in the freelancer

[warped nest]

the MAX version

[cobalt rivet]

and the cargo in the freelancer is not enough for you to really profit

it might be good cargo space for delivering quant loads

but not good for buying and selling

if they matched the cargo space of the valkryie to the freelancer, I would suggest getting the valkyrie instead because of the spacious interior, but the cargo on the valkyrie is shit

which doesnt make any sense

the way that ship handles, ,males you think its a heavy duty freighter, but it only has 1/3 the cargo of the cutty black (which is significantly more maneuverable and combat worthy at a mere fraction of the cost)

cuttty is prob your only real option if you're intro solely roc mining

[rugged axle]

Lancer max holds a roc just fine. Is the best bang for buck scu that can also multi role.

[cobalt rivet]

well, there you have it, it can carry a ROC

get the max

[marble crater]

pretty sure you get an Arrow Loaner too with the Freelancer Max if you're pledging

[raw shell]

max is my refined quant hauler

[north oyster]

MAX is a good ship, excellent refined ore transport and the best ROC escort (imo) in the game. The Valk is great also but MAX sips Hydrogen compared to the Valk

[raw shell]

I'll have to try that. I always assumed the max was too huge to hunt tiny gems in. Getting sick of getting the ROC wedged screwballed in the cutty black though.

[ivory gust]

If you want decent guns and only need 100 SCU of cargo, Constellation is the right answer, not A2. A2's only use right now is bombing JT

Plus, I don't think the A2 has any more pilot guns than the C2 anyway?

[cobalt rivet]

Just looking for a capable 3 man crew ship

Not interested in cargo

Simce i already bought c2

[ivory gust]

Redeemer if all you care about is combat, Andromeda if you want flexibility for things like carrying a vehicle for bunker missions

I wasn't suggesting you buy a Constellation for cargo now, I meant for future reference after the next wipe--Andromeda has 96 SCU space and supports three players other than the pilot (two turret gunners and a snub pilot)

[rugged axle]

4. Copilot as well. Right seat. Can control missiles and power triangle

Connies are still what I consider the ultimate multi role ship currently in the game.

[ivory gust]

They really are. If only they'd improve the lower turret

[jovial matrix]

I wish you could actually undock the merlin without blowing it up, and potentially the Connie altogether

[ivory gust]

... What? I've undocked a merlin just fine. Are you trying to do it while landed?

[jovial matrix]

Nope

We stop midair, my friend gets in and when he undocks the merlin gets stuck sideways inside the Connie

We’ve only successfully undocked it once

We don’t bother with it anymore

Now that I think about, my friends undocked it by himself a few times successfully, but we’ve only done it successfully together once

[ivory gust]

maybe having someone in the pilot's seat of the constellation at the time causes the problem?

https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-44579 could be it, make sure you upvote

[grave idol]

I just cargo stuff worth 100k and it crash just at the city before i landed

will i keep the resources on the ship?

im actually stuck somewhere in my ship....

inside a stone it looks like

[ivory gust]

if you can sit or lie down in a chair or bed it fixes that floating through the ship thing

[grave idol]

now i spawned at the hangar at the elevators sunddenly lol

thanks

it says my ship is impounded

[worthy scroll]

Just pay at the ship terminal to get it back.

[grave idol]

alright

so i can go sell my cargo now i guess

for 90k of cargo i got 102k when i sold it...

[ivory gust]

You made profit, grats

[worthy scroll]

That is how the cargo do.

[grave idol]

yea 😛

i thought it was gonna be more

[worthy scroll]

Bigger ship means bigger profit.

What did you buy/sell?

[grave idol]

Diamond, quarts and laurenite

Diamond 24 scu. Laurenite 12 scu, Quartz 124 scu

[worthy scroll]

Ah. Depending on where you are, you pretty much want to buy the most expensive thing first, and if it runs out, go to the next most expensive thing. And so on.

[grave idol]

okey

[worthy scroll]

Keep doing that until you run out of space or money.

[slow vine]

I'm currently outfitting an Argo MOLE, what are the best utility parts to equip on it?

[ivory gust]

Only important one is an XL-1 QD

Everything else optional

[slow vine]

I got that. I meant for the actual mining equipment. Core components and weapons I already got.

[ivory gust]

Lancet mining heads, surge, stampede

Can potentially equip only one with surge stampede for big rocks, others with something else like FLTRs, but remember you lose modules when you have to claim the ship

[dapper mesa]

Did the hotfix drop yet?

[ivory gust]

No

[dapper mesa]

Argh I want to suck up that good quant

[royal cairn]

Hopefully today

[nimble ledge]

What is the best planet for roc mining?'

[civic portal]

Arial or Aberdeen

[nimble ledge]

and recomended bases on them?

[glacial dagger]

Aberdeen only has 2, lathan and Bezdeck

[royal cairn]

Wherever it’s not dark

[glacial dagger]

The Ariel is probably gonna be a better bet for you then, as it has more jump locations

[vestal ravine]

Hey on a side note the earlier problems with my MOLE dropping to the ground. It seems I did have CPLD engaged. Once I turned that off the MOLE held steady. Yeaaa!!

[glacial dagger]

Huh? Were you in space?

[merry thistle]

where is the best place to mine gold?

[glacial dagger]

I wouldn't bother with mining somethign like gold. Borase and Bexalite are much better if your going for non-quant commodities

[merry thistle]

okey thanks

so is there any site where i can find location for mining these?

[glacial dagger]

While not a site, I recommend the Aaron Halo between CRU-L1 and ARC-L3. I think you might find some good stuff out there. Drop out at 11.5-12 million km from ARC-l3 and you will be right in the middle of the belt

[merry thistle]

thank you so much

[glacial dagger]

Nw bud, hope you have fun

[nocturne adder]

If you’re transporting refined quantanium to trade it, is there a timer before it explodes or is that only right after you mine it?

[rose cove]

It is not volitile after it is refined.

[glacial dagger]

Quantanium becomes volatile as soon as it's mined. Once refined, it becomes stable and cna be transport for as long as you wish

[vestal ravine]

@glacial dagger no, this happened while mining on Daymar and Lyria the last 10 days.

[glacial dagger]

What message are you reffering too bud?

[vestal ravine]

Earlier in the week Chris suggested I may have had Coupled mode engaged while mining just above the surface in the Mole. When I returned to the cockpit the Mole would fall out of the sky. After disengaging cpld mode the ship remains in the air like normal.

[nocturne adder]

Tyty

[glacial dagger]

Being coupled should keep you in position. The Mole does currently have a dropping issue where if the pilot gets out of the pilot seat, the Mole starts to drop and then zips back up. It's jsut a positional bug. if you get in while it's on a downwards strafe then yes, it will strafe down slightly,b ut not much

[vestal ravine]

Good info mine falls on its nose then drops back on the landing gear. No damage yet just embarrassing.

[glacial dagger]

This is why i dont reccomend solo mining int he Mole rn, the dropping issue can be pretty dam annoying 😦

CIG did fix it for a while, but then broke it again

[north oyster]

bugs have a tendency to resurrect themselves many times over with each patch

[fathom umbra]

Is there any benefit other than increased storage for using a roc ds

[glacial dagger]

You have a temperature controlled cab so you can sort your temperature out if you get too hot

[fathom umbra]

Doesn't the roc have that too?

[glacial dagger]

Nope, it's not an airtight cabin

[ivory gust]

Technically the laser has more power and longer range, and I've heard it also extracts faster

Downsides are that it's bigger so it fits into fewer ships (no cutlass) and you need to swap from driver seat to miner seat

[glacial dagger]

I dont think either of those are the case, I think it's jsut more storage and an airtight cabin

[ivory gust]

It definitely has more power, check erkul

Also has longer range on the laser

[glacial dagger]

Ah yes, Erkul, the site totally know for it's 100% accurate data...

[ivory gust]

Okay then, check finder.cstone.space

Ah, nevermind, that one doesn't have it listed

[glacial dagger]

Yup

[ivory gust]

But yeah, it definitely has more power (12/s vs 9/s). I don't have personal experience so I can't validate the extraction thing though

[worthy scroll]

I told myself yesterday that I wanted the Raft again, and like magic, they make it available today.

CIG listens. Never give up on your dreams!

😆

[bright peak]

I didn’t pledge one but bought one in game for the first time. Love it.

[worthy scroll]

I had one when it first came out but upgraded past it after I'd earned a C2 in game. I decided I liked it well enough to get one for good.

[worn cargo]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[worthy scroll]

Smuggling isn't really a thing yet. Running drugs is generally not that profitable, due to how long it takes to sell it.

[mortal bison]

Patch is dropping in an hour and a half

If you have refinery orders better go get em

[rugged axle]

Wait, raft is available to pledge again?

[royal cairn]

Finally

[rugged axle]

Oh. It's only the showdown edition. Which is 30 dollars more than normal edition 😦

[worthy scroll]

It's the same price it's always been, $125.

[rugged axle]

Hm, I thought it was 90. Oh well. I'll probably pledge it anyways. And upgrade later when the hull b is released

[worthy scroll]

Might be thinking of the Hull A, that one is $90.

[rugged axle]

Yea maybe.

I'm just torn if I want to actually pledge a pure cargo ship or not lol. Could always sell first quant load unrefined for cash to rent a transport.

But then again, if I pledge one. I start making money faster

I want a hull a, but the cargo is unbalanced to much. So would have to wait for hull b

[bright peak]

Yes the Hull A has smaller cargo space than the Raft. It’s a gorgeous ship though. For my needs the Raft is perfect.

[rugged axle]

That's my problem with the hull a. It has 64scu, the hull b has 384.

Hull a should have more in my opinion.

[orchid lotus]

I currently use a Mercury Runner as it has 114scu and it's really fast.

Works great for my Quant runs

Eventually may get Hercules or Hull Z

for larger operations

[jovial matrix]

Ah yes, the hull Z

[orchid lotus]

It's like 6 Hull D's in one

[jovial matrix]

Infinite cargo capacity, zero mobility

[rugged axle]

Lol, hull e is 9.8k of cargo 🙂

[orchid lotus]

the best way to dock it is just to let gravity slam it into the city

[jovial matrix]

At that point it’s just another planet satellite

[rugged axle]

But imagine that payday on quant delivery....

[orchid lotus]

unrefined quant especially

it's like the sun after 14minutes in cargo

[misty coyote]

The thing I can never get my head around, is you spend millions on a hauler...or whatever...so you can finally start making money....for ....a hauler?

[orchid lotus]

depends on what you want to do in the game. I like taking a break from bounty hunting and switch over to mining/hauling. I look forward to using my Reclaimer once salvage is implemented

'choose your own adventure' and invest in what you like to do

I have a goal where I want to fully loadout my reclaimer and bring it in to large battles just to smash it into ships...and hopefully use the claw

[misty coyote]

I'm trying to get into that mindset. Hard when there is no story or end goal to speak of.

[orchid lotus]

you may like Squadron42 once it's out since it's more Story oriented.

[cobalt rivet]

I would def get Squadron42 if it meant I got access to better coop missions in PU

[zenith maple]

you get a little truck, to make money for a big truck, to make money to be able to run the big truck into that mountain that jumped up infront of you without feeling bad

[cobalt rivet]

not really a singleplayer kinda guy

[spring prism]

Squadron 42 will have unlockables for the PU. Just as Arena Commander does/did

[ivory gust]

SQ42 was supposed to have co-op according to the original Kickstarter, hope they stick with that 😛

[glacial dagger]

Here's hoping, but it's unlikely

[ivory gust]

I saw lots of people in chat just prior to the wipe who didn't get the memo about refinery jobs, RIP to them

[rugged axle]

@misty coyote you spend millions on a hauler, to make money, to buy literally whatever you want in the game.

As far as a "end game" or story....nothing in this game really has either...

I mined for 1 day. 18 hours later I delivered and bought 2 fighters and a bomber.

[fallen atlas]

Also, bigger hauler means more money, means more ships, means more stuff you can accomplish

[orchid lotus]

you can also join an org, haul, mine, hunt, transport and get paid with them. Do some roleplay, meet your Star Citizen lover and get married

[spring prism]

When the Relay/Engineering stuff gets implemented, bigger ships will be less likely to be piloted. Lower Crew Ships or those with easy-to-access components will be more the norm.

Caterpillar will likely get thrown out in favor of the C2, even though the C2 won't get a Tractor Beam, unless they make it Freight instead of Transport. Mainly because the C2 has all of its components literally right outside the Pilot's area.

Still have to wait for the Cargo Refactor though; will likely change a fair few people's main ships.

[rugged axle]

Cat is already thrown out in favor of c2. Refractor may change it for awhile until engineering.

[worthy scroll]

My Cat will never be replaced.

[rugged axle]

because you like the way it looks. not because performance 🙂

[cerulean lichen]

Ok is a raft worth it as a pledge you think if I already got a cutlass black as a pledge? Basically I love the raft and thought about it for IAE but now it’s here with the show down. I already own a prospector, avenger, and the cutlass, so don’t know if it make sense to get a raft even though I really like it.

[misty coyote]

RAFT for life!

[fair coral]

I was planning on getting it. I like the look of it for an industrial cargo ship and honestly I mostly buy for aestetics

[misty coyote]

Cutlass Black has no character compared

And is too many things....the RAFT is a potato...flies like a thrown arm chair.

But that interior....

[cerulean lichen]

It is really cozy

[misty coyote]

Plus, I think it's going to shine when the cargo refractor occurs.

The lift is broken, and the canopy is scratched....I Still think it's a great ship.

Wish it had ....20-40 more SCU..... To put it beyond the freelancer max for pure hauling.

Who knows what the refactor will bring.

[cerulean lichen]

Yah. Like a 4th container would be nice

Or one giant container that can fit a roc in it.

[misty coyote]

Could be different containers....

Larger capacity maybe....who knows.

I love the MAX too, but it does more than just haul

Tools for each job....the max does hauling and roc....the raft, just hauls....but is much cheaper.

Adding a roc container reduces the MAX. But a RAFT that hauls about as much as the max...but can't carry.....that's a good buy

200k diff between them too

400k sorry

[cerulean lichen]

Well I got time to decide what to get. Only other ship on my list was the 400i and that’s also now available.

[ivory gust]

I wouldn't say "much" cheaper

400k is only an hour of income at the top end

[misty coyote]

No... not really....

I hadn't looked at the MAX

Thought it was about 3.5 Mill

[ivory gust]

I wish the RAFT had about the same capacity as the MAX, but couldn't carry vehicles. That would potentially make it worth picking up for 400k less

Right now there's really no reason to not just save up 400k more for the MAX

[misty coyote]

I pledged it

[ivory gust]

No warbond deals, I sleep

[worthy scroll]

I was about to ask things and then you edited lol.

[misty coyote]

I used the grey market.

[ivory gust]

Yeah, I realized in hindsight that without the context that could be misunderstood

[misty coyote]

I regret nothing

[ivory gust]

Rip your wallet, enjoy getting scammed

[misty coyote]

Well it's been 2 months and I'm still waiting

I'm sure the scam is just lost in the post

[ivory gust]

Doesn't matter how long, at any point in the future they can go to support and say "pls give back" and they'll take it back

[misty coyote]

Eh

That's future me problems

[worthy scroll]

Ha. I was trying to figure out where you were supposed to shove a ground vehicle into the Raft.

Oh no, the elevator in the Raft is busted...

[ivory gust]

Always has been

[worthy scroll]

It wasn't the last time I owned the ship.

[ivory gust]

It's on the known issues list, although I don't know if there's a workaround

[worthy scroll]

Well. I'm moderately irritated now.

Ha, there is a workaround.

You can get in the ship with the elevator, you just can't use it once you're in. Can't use it to get out, or change from upper to lower deck.

You can go between the decks with a ladder in the ship.

To exit the ship, jump out the airlock.

[native mulch]

just got 125k form one hadanite location did they up them like how many stone can load in, in this update

[raw shell]

I see the hotfix finally dropped

[ivory gust]

looks like quant's back on the menu, boys

[sleek torrent]

Anyone have an understanding of the MSR sheilded cargo

[jovial matrix]

I believe it isn’t implemented yet

So like you can put stuff inside it, but it won’t be shielded

[glacial dagger]

Essentially once in game properly, cargo put inside the MSR's hold will be able to withstand up to a certain level of scanning

[sleek torrent]

So the people who have posted about it on Reddit have just been lucky with the scans

[autumn mist]

if you have multiple refinery work orders, can you carry all of those refined goods in one ship?

or does the game only let you carry 1 work order at a time?

never done mining before, so idk how this works.

[native slate]

I’ve never done it either but my last server had 2 guys talking about transporting 7 orders

So maybe

[ivory gust]

You can carry multiple orders in a ship as long as you have space for it, you just can't split a single order across multiple ships

[crimson oak]

well, after 2hrs ive finally moved all my crap back to grim hex, what a chore.

[full mantle]

Nice..!

i wish that was an option..!

[crimson oak]

yeah if they'd expand the primary residency to other places, would be grrrreeeeat

[raw shell]

Or allow you to move stuff around in niknak after a character reset

[crimson oak]

i think maybe you're asking too much there lol

[rugged axle]

This is why I have a c2...lol. move almost a whole city inventory in 1 go

[north oyster]

C2 is such a fun bird to fly but I still only do my Quantainium deliveries the the MAX or Taurus. I've done a full C2 load of quan to market before, decided after that with the level of stress, I won't do that again. Too much on the line

I'm ok with a 2M aUEC delivery over risking a 6M+ aUEC delivery

[mortal bison]

Well, I sacrificed a load of Quant to verify the landing bug is still there

Impound it is

[fathom umbra]

Hm so.. with the reset you lose any inventory you had that's still in a vehicle huh..

Had just filled up on hadanite lol.. :/

[nova stirrup]

LF mining buddy pref if yu can fly 😄 i will crash ingame name zarmest

[wet glacier]

can I use cutlass black for mining stuff?

[orchid lotus]

@mortal bison are you referring to the bug where once you land the Quant goes nuclear or the one where your ship is not recognized and you have to claim it again?

[mortal bison]

You land and it becomes inert, forcing you to abandon your ship and reclaim, because there is no way to get the inert material out of your ship because the refinery doesn't acknoledge its there

I don't think it explodes, because my ship has no damage

[orchid lotus]

It happened to me once, as soon as I landed it went from no alarm to red. I had 5 seconds to get out and my ship blew up, even if I was well within the 15 minute timer

[rugged axle]

It depends on server health :). General consensus is its major desynch caused by an unhealthy server. Game doesn't know you landed and then bam your landed so it takes it as a very hard landing.

[raw shell]

you can carry a ROC around for mining gems, or ride around to do hand mining in caves in one

[crimson oak]

fair bit of server desync since the new patch ive noticed

other than that, no big issues so far, apart from logging out at grim hex a few hours ago and then finding myself back at orison again, along with a lmg i had looted and put into grim hex local inventory, yet then showed in orison local inventory when i landed back there again somehow

[meager gorge]

Honestly this would so nice. Like a 30 minute grace period to move your inventory around so you don’t have to haul each item ONE by ONE from your home port and then again to where you want to live. Or you know, maybe just fix the inventory so you can move multiple items at once or all items.

[meager gorge]

What’s this landing bug? I haven’t encountered it.

[mortal bison]

Its what I said above

[meager gorge]

You can load a ROC into it to do mining that way. It’s really useful.

[meager gorge]

Ah okay. Ive definitely landed softly and randomly had the quant explode. So maybe I have experienced it.

[mortal bison]

It happens to me every time

I wasted a perfect load of quant to see if it was fixed

[north oyster]

The Cutty is the perfect all-rounder ship for hauling refined ore, hauling the ROC for mining, etc. But you can't directly mine with the Cutty

[wet glacier]

Will give it a try thx for the help

[north oyster]

If you mine with the ROC, you will want to go to Aberdeen. You will need to also pick up the Pembroke Armor and helmet to use there.

[royal cairn]

It’s happened to me a lot but then stopped idk why. All I do now is power down before getting up. Might try it without just to see if it will still get me.

Do you land at arc l1? Or somewhere else?

Oops never mind wrong messages from earlier haha

[noble verge]

Guys is it worth it buying unrefined materials driving them to a refinery and then selling for profit ?

[meager gorge]

I actually don’t know. I’ve always mined them myself. I hear Laranite is a good hauling item though.

[verbal cargo]

you cannot buy unrefined materials. You can only mine for them

[grave idol]

when is free flu

fly

😛

[cobalt rivet]

What ship are you looking to try

[grave idol]

cattarpillar or another cargo ship

[cobalt rivet]

They prob do it few weeks before wipe

[ivory gust]

September 8th

And the only ships that will be in the free fly are the top 8 of the showdown

[cobalt rivet]

Does this mean wipe is near?

[ivory gust]

... No?

[cobalt rivet]

Oh ok good

[grave idol]

what do you lose in a wipe?

[ivory gust]

Carrack, Freelancer max, MSR, RAFT are the only "cargo" ships you might have in the showdown

[cobalt rivet]

Last free fly they gave the prospector

[ivory gust]

Prospector isn't in the showdown

[cobalt rivet]

Thats arguably the best freefly ship 🙂

Ok

Be funny if they did tho, everyone will be mining

[worthy scroll]

Ask in game, people are usually willing to show ships.

[ivory gust]

You lose what they wipe

For 3.17.2 they wiped money, ships, and items, but not rep

[grave idol]

alright

[ivory gust]

We don't yet know what will be wiped with 3.18

[grave idol]

I hade 1 million on my account and i didnt do anything to get it

[ivory gust]

Yes, everyone got 1M

[grave idol]

oh okey

[strange cove]

can gold be mined yet and if so where?

[glacial dagger]

It can, but there are much more valuable resources that take the same amount of effort, primarily Bexalite and Borase

[strange cove]

the mining calculator i looked up said its fairly valuable and can be sold raw

i ask because the refineries have a -20% quantanium yield atm

[glacial dagger]

Refining will always make you more money, but you will either need a cargo ship or be prepared to rent one

[glacial dagger]

...no?

[strange cove]

the one i went to did

[glacial dagger]

You do realise that refining will always lose come of the commodity but the value will increase much more

Some stations do have poor quant % rates

Did you go to CRU-L1?

[strange cove]

arc 2

[ivory gust]

The new refineries do have big Quant penalties to discourage their use for Quant

[glacial dagger]

CRU-L1 has a +6% quant bonus

[ivory gust]

Actually, gold loses value when refined apparently

https://uexcorp.space/mining

[glacial dagger]

Huh??? Shouldn;t do

[ivory gust]

Price raw 32, price refined 6.41

Haven't tried it myself, but that does put it as the second-highest value raw, and potentially worth mining with a rented prospector if you can find it in large enough quantities

[glacial dagger]

Huh

That might actually make raw gold worth mining then

Considering raw quant is at 44

Huh, gold is also the only one that does that

I wonder if UEX just made a mistake is all?

[ivory gust]

it's possible, sc-trade.tools disagrees

Looks like you'd want to look for Shale or Igneous deposits on Magda, Yela, Ita, Daymar

Is selling raw ore actually working, though? The terminals didn't work for me at all before the hotfix and haven't tried since

[glacial dagger]

Raw does work, it's just a pain to take your mining ship down each time 😦

[ivory gust]

...what do you mean? Raw ore is sold at the refinery

[glacial dagger]

Oh shoot, I completly forgot about that 😄

[ivory gust]

Different set of terminals from the refining terminals, but they haven't been working for me (and a lot of others)

[glacial dagger]

Yh, just forgot about them

They worked for a friend before the hotfix 😄

[strange cove]

either way if what is written is to be true its fast instant money

[glacial dagger]

Potentially, yh

[ivory gust]

Let us know if it works out and that price is correct

[glacial dagger]

I'm gonna be busy this weekend, but I will give it a shot durign the week 😄

[strange cove]

well i need to know where to find gold rocks i dont remember seeing them

which brings me back to my initial questions where can i mine gold XD

[glacial dagger]

Right here #industrial-professions message

[ivory gust]

Obvious answer is to park a Prospector on top of the Carrack hangar while going ROC mining on Magda or Daymar. If you see gold, mine it with the prospector. If you see Hadanite, mine it with the ROC

[glacial dagger]

That...That actually sounds like a really good idea 😄

[strange cove]

i dont have carrack

[ivory gust]

Disclaimer: I haven't tested if the Prospector is "safe" on top of the hangar door

[glacial dagger]

Screw it

I'm gonna go test it now 😄

Wish me luck 😄

[fallen atlas]

Parked plenty of things safely on the 890J doors, so I'd imagine it's fine if the Carrack has gravity like the 890 on top.

[glacial dagger]

The carrack use to be fine, but they changed it not too long ago...

[ivory gust]

It does have gravity but there's a size limit, things that are too tall don't stick afaik

[glacial dagger]

I'm gonna have to try it tomorrow/next week, servers are super buggy for me rn...

[cerulean lichen]

Spent 3 hours on calliope looking for quant. Did not find a single deposit

[ivory gust]

That seems odd, how were you searching?

[gentle brook]

Do lyria or halo belt mine. Those are your best options

[cerulean lichen]

I thought halo belt was bugged?

[royal cairn]

unscannables are annoying but you can still find real ones

*in the belt

[cerulean lichen]

And I was searching by going in a straight line checking each rock

[ivory gust]

By "checking each rock" I hope you mean "sending out a scanner ping and checking each result", right? Not just literally checking everything that physically looks like a rock?

[cerulean lichen]

Yes, I’m not that crazy😅

[ivory gust]

Odd that you didn't find any quant at all, the Microtech moons are supposed to be where it's most common

I wonder if that changed in 3.17.2...not many people are mining places other than Lyria or the Belt so it's possible it changed and no one noticed

[cobalt rivet]

I tried it out for 20 minutes, their rock clusters arent quant

and the winds are strong af there

said fuggit and left

but this was before this "hotfix"

[vestal ravine]

Between last night and today I did a multi ship survey of Euterpe some 5-6 hours of time. Didn't crack one gem a big disaster. (There was something else I was doing there however non mining.) On the one 135C survey I looked over 3 Dolivine in this neat setting and did see some other gem clusters. There was some non-Quant rocks around and I did see a few Quantanium. I brought out the ROC in a Nomad but the Nomad developed cooler problems and kept sinking to the ground. On one of those the ROC bounced out which I did not notice. When I found a gem cluster well no Roc. I went to get it, ran 80 meters, drove it back okay but then the winds kicked in. And there goes the Nomad rolling away. I drove the ROC after it was able to get in and gave up and went back and got the Cutty/Roc combo. Came back did not find any gems but saw a few Q. Tried to land at this station for something the winds came back blew the Cutty out of control 30 feet off the surface barely escaped to get off the Moon. So like 5 hours not a penny earned. Bummer. Now near Lyria. Euterpe great when it's clear skies and all that snow. But not when the viscous winds kick in.

[marble crater]

I've found a bit of Quant on Microtech but only Lyria has guaranteed quant in the clusters. Makes finding it much easier

[cobalt rivet]

find any beacons higher than Low Threat?

[strange cove]

i couldnt sell raw gold or hardenite from my backpack but im probably just dumb

[cobalt rivet]

keep it in your ship or mining vehicle and land on the landing pad at any mining outpost

[strange cove]

i did i could refine it but not sell the ore

[cobalt rivet]

go inside one of the admin termina;

and sell

you're in the wrong outpost if you have option to refiner

[cerulean lichen]

I’m crazy to mine on calliope, but it’s so quiet and run basically no risk of meeting other players

[cobalt rivet]

they are at the moon / planet surface

[ivory gust]

There are three different terminals involved here:

• Selling raw ore: The short terminals on the left in the upper room on the refinery deck of refinery stations
• Selling gems: Admin consoles on the galleria level of any station, or city, or storage building at mining outposts
• Refining ore: The tall terminals in the same room as the raw ore ones

[cerulean lichen]

Ok so I know quant is the best money maker but is there anything else I could mine that’s easier to find that makes like 50k a haul?

[ivory gust]

a) 50k a haul is terrible, quant is 270k/haul (after refining)

b) prices are listed at https://uexcorp.space/mining , bexalite is the next best moneymaker. Note that site shows Gold as selling for a ton unrefined but we haven't had confirmation on that yet

c) Use https://sc-trade.tools/mining to find where to mine stuff

[cerulean lichen]

Yah I know quant is better, but if I’m searching for hours trying to find quant I’d rather find something easier that I can do multiple trips of than search for a golden nugget

[ivory gust]

Shouldn't need to search for hours to find quant

the absolute worst searching session I've ever had before finding a useful rock was 45min

[cerulean lichen]

Maybe I have just had crap luck tonight then.

[ivory gust]

There's two searching shortcuts:

• In the Aaron Halo, you can see what type a rock is from up to 12km away, so you know if it's a q-type and worth investigating. If it doesn't show q-type, keep looking
• On Lyria, you can see whether a scan result is a cluster or not from up to 12km away, and all clusters are quant. So, cruise along and look for clusters, only investigate clusters.

[cobalt rivet]

if you have time, jump in a channel I show you quant mining

[cerulean lichen]

How can you tell from that far? If I go into scan mode I can’t tell anything until I get closer that the rock symbol for the signal appears (usually at 2km)

[ivory gust]

don't use scan mode, using mining mode, and you can change the angle of the ping (, and . keys by default)

Use a wide-angle ping (180 or 360) first to see results, then a narrow ping (2) at each result to see details

[cobalt rivet]

Meta, just fly over the pinged rocks and see if they are next to each other, its technically the fastest way as you dont have to slow down

[ivory gust]

you can keep moving while scanning

[cobalt rivet]

next fastest way is setting scan angle to 180 and cruise with your mining head out and scanning at you fly by

[ivory gust]

...no

[cerulean lichen]

I’ll look up a guide on that then. I’d do it tonight but it’s to late and I still got work in the morning.

[cobalt rivet]

they usually populate once you reach 800m

but meta way is fastest

you dont have to slow down

[ivory gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgh-bqFlo_c is a nice concise video that describes the new scanning. Also talks about how to get to the belt

[cerulean lichen]

Thanks! I should really start mining in the halo instead of this frozen moon 😅

[ivory gust]

Try both Halo and Lyria, see which you like better. Each has their advantages and disadvantages

Halo you don't need to use modules since you'll never find a rock too big to mine with just the Lancet head, and you don't have to worry about losing chunks underground

[cobalt rivet]

did they fix unscannable rocks in Halo?

[ivory gust]

Nah, but if you get out of your chair and back in they might disappear, worth a shot

[cerulean lichen]

Does the halo appear on the system map now? Or do I just have to guess when to drop out of warp

[ivory gust]

Nope, it doesn't appear, but you don't have to guess--the distances are known https://cstone.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes

So, for example, if you're at CRU L1, you set course to ARC-L3, then drop out of quantum with ~11,855,000 distance remaining to land in Band 5

[cerulean lichen]

Found it. Though it took quite awhile since I got a stock quantum drive. Pretty neat place, a little creepy but neat. Also it appears that roc mining nodes spawn on asteroids as well

[ivory gust]

Definitely upgrade the quantum drive. Atlas if you want to be able to go across the whole system, Spectre if you'll only ever make short hops.

The gem nodes there are hand mine able but probably not worth the time

[cerulean lichen]

And already found quant rocks. Though can’t scan them so no clue if they are good or not.

[ivory gust]

Can't scan them?

[cerulean lichen]

Well I just 30k a second ago, so that may have been the issue

[ivory gust]

Ah possible.

The asteroids will show as q-type up to 12km away using a narrow scan angle if they're Quant. If they show no result (unscannable) or anything other than "q-type", they're not Quant, move on

[cerulean lichen]

It just showed a complete scan bar even though I never scanned it and didn’t display any results. Logging back in to try again

And back at new Babbage so looks like first thing up is to upgrade that drive so trips don’t take to long. Don’t want to explode now

[cobalt rivet]

why not set your spawn closer to your mining op

[cerulean lichen]

Yah, I should probably do that. Love microtech but setting up at Hurston would make more sense as I would also have Aberdeen right next to me to do roc mining at.

[cobalt rivet]

while you were chatting I found a 6 rock cluster of quant, and a double rock

lyria

[cerulean lichen]

Nice! Probably faster for me to do a character reset instead of manually transporting everything to lorville?

[cobalt rivet]

setup at arc l1. you can bounce between lyria and halo really easy

i check in halo once in a while but honestly prefer lyria

halo USED to be the shit

before they fked it up

[cerulean lichen]

Ok so should I reset my character to there, or just have my mining ship and transport stored there and use a different ship to fly there when I want to mine?

[cobalt rivet]

you dont really need to reset if you have a transport ship

just move your mining stuff

on the transport

[jovial matrix]

youd still have to do some amount of moving even if you reset, so id say just move it

[cobalt rivet]

and then call in your prospector

when you get there

the only thing you need to load up on are mining modules

the ship and mining head stays when you claimn

toss all your modules into your transport, fly to arc -l1, unload them, set your spawn there, call in your prospector and then equip your mod

from arc l1, you can fly to Halo between hurtston and arcorp, or go to lyria

[cerulean lichen]

Well time to make the slow journey, but maybe grab that drive before I do so. Thanks for the help

[cobalt rivet]

and you can sell your refined stuff to arc corp area 18

micro tech is beautiful but tbh the weather doesnt make much sense there

for a planet with frequent strong winds, you only see stiff tall trees, no windswept plants

[cerulean lichen]

Yah, I really just like it for its beauty.

[cobalt rivet]

needs animals

vicious carnivorous, feral beasts

[cerulean lichen]

Some giant squirrels

[cobalt rivet]

only if they have donkey kong

flying squirells would be interesting tho

since its windy and all, darwinism would suggest either flying squirels or moles

[cerulean lichen]

So area 18 better place to live then lorville for mining and trading then?

[cobalt rivet]

ye

also quicker to get around

1 train

though I suggest for any planet system, that you set your spawn to the space station above it

you'll only on occassions need to visit the cities

[cerulean lichen]

I’ll do a character reset and move myself there. Be good to see area 18 more anyways.

[jovial matrix]

just fly there, less hassle

[cobalt rivet]

do it before you go to bed cause there is a waiting period for accessing your account while its reseting

[cerulean lichen]

Looking at the reset stuff, it seems like it’s only for game breaking stuff. Do people also just do it casually to reset stuff? Easiest thing to do could be me loading up everything I own into the C2 and flying from microtech to area 18.

[jovial matrix]

Dont think Ive ever heard of someone doing a character reset to switch their spawns/move items

[cobalt rivet]

Yes use the c2

But be bery careful

Cause

There is a bug

[cerulean lichen]

Yep a crash will have me loose everything and so will blowing up.

[cobalt rivet]

Where calling ships in calls the wrong ship

[cerulean lichen]

I’ll move tomorrow after work.

[cobalt rivet]

And if it happens to be the ship you have a ton of shit in

All gone

[cerulean lichen]

Thanks for all the help. Mastered roc mining awhile back but mining with a prospector still taking a bit of time to learn to make it more efficient

[hardy crypt]

o7 citizens.... I'm just trying to sell my dolivine on orison, checked the trade tools and it says the place buys it, I'm sat with it in the local inventory but I'm in the trade center and it isn't buying my materials.... Any assistance would be much appreciated

[ivory gust]

Need to go to admin center, not trade center

[hardy crypt]

Haha yea, just got told ingame, I'd completely forgot when I woke up and went to trade it all lmao..

Thanks for the reply bro

[glacial dagger]

Alternatively, hand mined goods can be sold to mining outposts on planets/moons

[hardy crypt]

Yea , that allows for more to be sold at a time right rather than sitting and waiting for certain foods to replenish or some shit?

Been doing some cave missions so the looted dolivine has been awesome and a quick trip back to grim hex to sell has been nice, I'll have a look for some mining outposts to get it done quicker, only reason I had it all in orison is coz I switched starting zone last night

[ivory gust]

i usually just log out when done with the cave, so I don't have to walk all the way back out and then fly back to a station

and then when you do a character reset, all the looted dolivine comes back

[glacial dagger]

Thankfully, yes

[hardy crypt]

Safe I'll deffo check it out then

[cobalt rivet]

What are cave missions called

[north oyster]

some of them are insurance request to find someone missing

[royal cairn]

There’s a couple. The description should say “inside a cave on x”. I can’t remember the exact mission names

Evict illegal occupants is one I think under mercenary

I do them from Hurston

[tired anchor]

Are Quikflares buggy? Mine all disappeared after spinning around on the cave ground for a bit.. or is there a trick?

[ripe bough]

stuff that ends up on the ground has about a 50/50 chance of either poofing into oblivion or actually working

[north oyster]

that's ALL items that hit the ground, LOL

[topaz burrow]

sometimes "entrenched"

[jovial matrix]

The ones around crusader are called entrenched bounties and clear criminal nest

[ivory gust]

I do them near Hurston, entrenched bounties (look for "in a cave" in mission description) and evict illegal occupants, both in the bounty category

[shut remnant]

feeling good on a friday

[cerulean lichen]

Well almost done at work then I get move everything I own from microtech to area 18. Going to build my trading and mining empire there I think.

[raw shell]

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuckmeeeeeeeeee.. ROC 90% full of hadanite and 30k hits

30k protection doesn't work for rocs, does it?

[fallen atlas]

30k prtection

[ivory gust]

Nope, that's why professional ROC miners have voice attack or similar macros set up that transfer cargo from the roc to their ship

[raw shell]

ugh I was just trying to find an autohotkey script for that very reason

[ornate rock]

did anyone ever ask CIG if that's ok to use, or do people break ToS and just hope nothing happens?

[raw shell]

<--- clearly not a professional

if they kicked down my door for using a 3rd party app to avoid carpal tunnel due to the shortcomings of their perpetually alpha game, that would be my cue to delete this shit and move on.

I could see going draconian if it were released, but not for alpha stuff

[ornate rock]

Using it is clearly against ToS, but CIG doesn't seem to care much about it. I'd still prefer to have a clear statement on it before I'd risk my account over it.

[raw shell]

that's the rub.. if it's against the ToS they're not going to respond against it.

let's see how much I saved by manually dragging ore over to the ship before saying 'to hell with this noise'

ugh.. 20k. Had to have lost well over 200k

[ivory gust]

I was hopeful the hotfix would take care of most of the 30ks, but alas

ROC mining is probably the least "30k friendly" game loop, very risky now

[raw shell]

I wonder if the hotfixes are forcing 30ks. Evertime I get one, I relog to the launcher and there is a new patch

[rugged axle]

Meh. Voiceattack binded to a key = amazing.

Page up transfers 20 times from left to right. Page down does the same right to left

[raw shell]

i wish I knew how to do that. Voiceattack is a freaking mystery to me

[rugged axle]

It's actually pretty easy. Download it for free. Create new command. Tell it what to do, capture mouse positions. And bind either to a voice command or to a hotkey.

Search YouTube for "transfer like a boss star citizen" . Really good tutorial on it specifically for that case

Next time I'm bored I'm going to setup a gladius "flight ready" command. Where it powers ship, changes weapon groups, and changes mfds to my preferred setup.

[raw shell]

Yeah I have voice attack, just haven't been able to get it to do much beyond simple things. I'll look for that youtube though, thanks

[rugged axle]

If you can't figure it out. Shoot me a dm later today and I can walk you through at least getting transferring commands set up

[jovial matrix]

Voiceattack is free to download?

[royal cairn]

I use autohotkey, been wanting to add more logic to be able to remember first position so you could move what you wanted instead of starting at the top

[rugged axle]

Voice attack is free. And I think you get like 5 commands. If you want more you have to pay

@jovial matrix

[raw shell]

just hacked an autohotkey script that works perfectly. I can't believe I haven't done this before now

I got one of those sexy voice packages from HCS with the preset commands. Trying to add custom stuff to that always trips me up

like the AI gal with the french accent

OMG.. there IS 30k protection for ROCs

my hadanite cargo is there

[jovial matrix]

Ok

[jovial matrix]

Yooooo let’s go dude

[raw shell]

oh shit, it showed up when the mining laser was on, but going into the cargo hatch, it's not there. Damn

[jovial matrix]

Ah RIP

[raw shell]

meh, went back in and turned on the mining laser. The cargo hold flashed full for a moment, then went empty. So close

[jovial matrix]

Yeah

[raw shell]

I guess it's a good indication CIG is trying.. just not quite there yet.

[tired sapphire]

whats the best recommended QT engine for the C2?

[royal cairn]

[modest grail]

How I change to mining mode in the prospector ???

[gentle brook]

M

[modest grail]

Thanks

And where can I mining quantum ???

[gentle brook]

Lyria

It's a moon near arcorp. Best spot

[ivory gust]

I recommend watching a YouTube tutorial or two

[tired sapphire]

what are the best things to trade atm?

[fallen atlas]

!tradetools will point you in the right direction

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[fallen atlas]

Typically laranite.

[boreal crest]

hey guys quick question! what is the Ship that can carry a ROC and is under 1mil or close to like lower 1mil ?

[ivory gust]

Nomad

It's the only ship under 1M that can carry a ROC

Cutlass Black is the next cheapest at 1.3M, and can also be rented for 35k/day

[boreal crest]

oh ok

hummm i do have 1mil i just need the .3 lol

[fallen atlas]

Just rent one for a few days

[ivory gust]

If you play a couple hours a day or more I'd recommend just renting the Cutlass and save up until you can get something more versatile like a Freelancer MAX

[boreal crest]

true

well i also am wondering if i should rent the mining ship and see if i can do profits even if its rented

[ivory gust]

No, rented Prospector can't switch out to the good mining head, so you'll be stuck mining worse things

If you want to do Prospector, keep renting roc/cutlass until you get enough to buy the Prospector (plus extras for mining head, QD, and refining fees)

[boreal crest]

ok

thx

[raw shell]

great recommendation to use the max to haul the roc around. I'm loving it.

[jovial matrix]

If only the max didn’t handle like an elephant

[rugged axle]

Ts2 qt for the c2

[cerulean lichen]

Good news, finally moved to area 18 after last nights discussion. All I need to do is move my ship components that got removed from the patch and the paints. Should be pretty easy. Then it’s mining lyria

[jovial matrix]

Nice

[cerulean lichen]

Close to Hurston for roc mining and right next to the halo and lyria for quant mining. Microtech was pretty but this is definitely the location for miners and traders

[boreal crest]

does the Argo MUVP Cargo as Warp speed?

[cerulean lichen]

No Argo cargo doesn’t have a jump drive so it can only go as fast as it’s hydrogen engines can carry it

[jovial matrix]

Doesn’t have a QT drive yeah

[ivory gust]

Argo MPUV is kinda worthless

although it does have pilot in a different compartment from passengers so if you're giving a ride to someone you don't trust maybe useful for that?

[ornate tapir]

MPUV's decent for planet-to-station runs, it won't come into its own until QTing to planet destinations is removed though

[cerulean lichen]

The MPUV is basically a small transport to deliver things from a tender ship to a main military ship that can dock. We don’t have any big military ships or a ship planned to be a tender so it’s kinda a meme

[ornate tapir]

I wonder if ground AA turrets can still target and fire at it, or if it's too small
That would be a legitimate advantage, for it to be a low-flying approach vehicle that AA turrets can't shoot down

Then it'd just be a flight-capable Mule

[ivory gust]

Given that they still shoot hoverbikes, they'll definitely shoot an mpuv

[ornate tapir]

Dang
They don't shoot Ursas
Maybe they'll change the firing arcs on those turrets in the future then, who knows

[cerulean lichen]

The Argo cargo may be a meme but I love the Argo style of ships.

[ivory gust]

They don't shoot things that have wheels on the ground, they shoot things that fly

[ornate tapir]

Argo's cargo ships are only a meme because the main gameplay for them isn't ready yet
If you ask me, Exploration ships are in the same boat, but copium is cheaper for Explorers

[strange cove]

how much longer until squadron is done i would love the focus to swap to star citizen so shit they promised will finally be finished

[ivory gust]

no one knows

according to the kickstarter it'll be released in 2014

[strange cove]

i just want to see progress made in star citizen, i left for a year to see almost nothing added

which is fine for most games, but with the budget they have feels awful

[cerulean lichen]

Yah SQ42 would be a nice thing to have and at least show they are capable of finishing a product

[spiral beacon]

question, is it possible for quant to go unstable really fast

like going from 90% stable to fast red blinking and blowing up in <10 seconds

[ivory gust]

you landed in a hangar, didn't you

[spiral beacon]

it blew up right before i landed

[ivory gust]

don't go in hangar, just get the ship impounded by hovering in front of a hangar door without calling ATC

tons of reports of quant blowing up when going in hangar or landing

[spiral beacon]

ah, so a bug then

how long does impounding take

[ivory gust]

about a minute

it's really about the same amount of time as landing and taking the elevator to the terminals to store it

[spiral beacon]

hmm, ok

[ivory gust]

you also only need to pay the fine if you're going to use the ship again within 15min--if you're taking a break or logging out for the night, you don't have to pay

[spiral beacon]

i didnt know there was a fee, how much is it?

[rugged axle]

like 5-10k

[ivory gust]

5k, but even if you're going out again immediately and need to pay it, it's worth not losing a 270k Quant load

[cerulean lichen]

So on lyria and doing much better mining. Not huge hauls but constant small 20% rocks than fill my prospector to 12 units of space on average.

[ivory gust]

Not bad for starting out

[cerulean lichen]

Finding a lot of 40% rocks I can’t break though. It’s better than finding no rocks like I did on calliope

[alpine quail]

Okay, so I've started g etting picky about the quant rocks I smash, nothing less than 29%. (Though I kinda ignore mass for the most part since I'm in a prospy.) I've seen the advantages to running the Lancet, and don't plan to change that on my prospy, but there are too many choices of modules, I was wondering if ya'll'd share your prospy module loadouts?

I'd rather not run active modules, if that helps?

I'm thinking two reiger-c3's and a vaux-c3?

[ivory gust]

Need modules for that. 2x Surge and Stampede, or Surge, Stampede, Optimum

Lets you break up to like 7.5k or 8k mass rocks

https://youtu.be/72mOC283iUs?t=156

[cerulean lichen]

Next time I’m at the refinery I’ll get those. Those modules that are passive or do I actively use them like need to hit a button to make them go

[alpine quail]

passive modules are the best modules

[ivory gust]

Need to actively use them, and they're not available at all refineries--Surge isn't at ARC-L1

I took a trip to HUR L1 and loaded up on a bunch before ferrying them to ARC-L1

[alpine quail]

@ivory gust since you're here and we're talking about it, did my module loadout sound okay?

[ivory gust]

I'm not super familiar with teh passive modules, sorry...on lyria I use surge/stampede for big rocks, in the halo I don't use any

[alpine quail]

I'm trying to find the right combo to help my fiancee keep things in the optimum window when she's mining with me.

[ivory gust]

Brandt active module, activate it when you get to optimal window, decreases instability

Or, Optimum active module, activate it when you get to the window, increases size of window

Or, Stampede active module, activate it when you get inside the window, "finishes" the window quicker

[alpine quail]

Yeah, not a big fan of the actives, since that's a whole nother learning curve she'd need to go through

and money is tight atm since she keeps exploding the Mole when we go mining.

[ivory gust]

I'd go with 2 Vauxes and a Rieger, then

but that will not make much of a difference in the instability compared to an active

[alpine quail]

I figure if I give her a bigger green window, the instability will stop mattering so much

[ivory gust]

Can try that too, sure--but again, the actives have a much larger effect, and can be combined, and are very easy to use ("when you get to green, press this button")

[vestal ravine]

Be careful when trying the impound trick as some hangers won't accept the offer so to speak. You might have to fly over to the next hanger. I found out the hard way the time lost caused my Q load to blow up and my Prospector had permanent collection bag damage. Just saying...

[ivory gust]

Yeah, sometimes need to try a second hangar

but you should be arriving back at the station with like 6+ minutes left, plenty of time

[alpine quail]

I don't even need to do the impound bug

[ivory gust]

If you don't impound, at some point, you will explode on landing

[alpine quail]

Just land carefully

lol

[ivory gust]

It doesn't matter, you can land like a feather and the bug can still happen and blow you up

Impounding is the only safe way to ensure you don't blow up

[alpine quail]

What's the least populated refinery?

Arc-L1 is just constantly slammed.

[ivory gust]

Any of the new ones that have a -20% to quant, probably

[marble crater]

your only option for that with passives would be to stack 3 * Rieger-C3's. I feel that pain in the Mole though the HUD readout is so damn tiny

getting 2 lasers on also doubles the green zone so you can jump in a turret and just put 2% power to get the benefit if you want

[ivory gust]

Don't even need 2% power, 0% is fine to get that bonus

[alpine quail]

Yeah, I'm the designated pilot for the mole

[marble crater]

can still jump out and go in a turret

put vtol on

[ivory gust]

You don't need a pilot while mining

[cobalt rivet]

Rip your ship if storm hits and no pilot

[marble crater]

idk why they changed the HUD to be so small now though. used to be so much easier to read

[cobalt rivet]

Mole mining doesnt make sense to me as the capacity doesnt really beat having three prospectors

[alpine quail]

it does with the rarity of high % rocks in the halo

(currently)

[cobalt rivet]

You three man?

[alpine quail]

When we're mole mining, I usually have 2 miners and myself piloting

[cobalt rivet]

Divided 3 ways profit?

Just wondering why not just do 3 prospectors, easier to fly and mine, and if you need help just share lasers

[alpine quail]

because when you find that good cluster it's easier and faster to make a profit by mining it.

Esp if one player goes EVA while you run back and refine so you can warp right back to them.

[cobalt rivet]

Capacity is the same as doing 3

[alpine quail]

There are pros and cons either way

Doing three prospy's will allow you to search more of the Halo, yes.

[cobalt rivet]

Does everthing better

[marble crater]

multi crew Mole is fun but I normally go to Lyria for that

also easier to split profits

[alpine quail]

any of ya'll got a work around for the unscannable rock bug?

[cobalt rivet]

Mole just makes it to where only one guy has to fly, but when it comes to mining, having to tell the pilot where to go is annoying

[marble crater]

talking to each other is part of the multi crew experience

[cobalt rivet]

If i got a mole, it would be my greedy ass soloing

So i get the whole cluster to myself

[marble crater]

3 prossys just feels like 3 people solo grinding, different gameplay

[cobalt rivet]

Nah its easier to manage

And youre still talking to wach other when you need to

Without the hassle of telling pilot to inch one direction or another cause you csnt reach a rock

And the pilot isnt blind and cant see what rock is what

[marble crater]

just because multi crew mining isn't for you doesn't mean others can't enjoy it

[cobalt rivet]

I just pointed out why its uneconomical and ineffecient

I do like sharing ships but not at the expense of dealing with all that

[marble crater]

do you have a Mole?

[alpine quail]

He probably doesnt have friends, much less a mole

[cobalt rivet]

If the mole had 4x the storage of a prospector and if the chances if filling 4x load were realistic, it would totally be worth

I mole mine a little bit, but its so annoying id rather team mine with prospectors

Or solo

[marble crater]

then it's not for you and that's ok

[cobalt rivet]

Its also inefficient but thats okay too

[marble crater]

100% credits get wiped so do things you enjoy. collecting auec in the end is pointless. If you enjoy multi crew mining then do it

[cobalt rivet]

Be awesome if they upped the moles potential as a crew ship rather than just 3x the stats

Pilot cant even have his own mine head

[ivory gust]

Get out of the seat and get back in

Although I'm not sure how that works with the Mole, if both people need to get out of their seats

[cursive hinge]

Is there a better way to sell SLAM than just waiting around selling 150 units every 10 minutes?

[mild pumice]

well that was worth picking up 😄

[royal cairn]

[meager gorge]

Where’d you find those? Not that I’d want to sell them myself after seeing that lol

[mild pumice]

They were stacked up in one of the drug labs I was delivering too (redwind illegal deliveries mission)

They weren't mission boxes

[boreal crest]

is the mining broke today ?

[raw shell]

nope, I was out mining earlier

[worthy scroll]

That's going to be something on a server by server basis.

[boreal crest]

so change server?

[worthy scroll]

If a server isn't running right, try to get on a new one. That's how it's always been.

[boreal crest]

ok

switching server

[hollow sedge]

Im using reliant kore, what should be the next ship i buy if i want to go for cargoship?

[boreal crest]

Cutlass

[worthy scroll]

What kind of cargo running, buy/sell cargo? That doesn't really get worth it until you get to the bigger ships, Taurus at a minimum.

[hollow sedge]

constellation taurus?

[worthy scroll]

Yeah. It's because of how buy/sell cargo works right now. Larger cargo capacity is king. If making money is what you're after, anything smaller is easily outpaced by other things.

[boreal crest]

so i am mining with my prospector and also got a Lancet laser but also 3 modual but how do i activate the modules?

[worthy scroll]

If you have passive modules, you don't activate them. If you have active modules, you do have to manually use them. Go into the keybinds and see what the keys are to use them.

[rugged axle]

Left alt 1 2 or 3 is default

[boreal crest]

so when looking at a quan Rock what mass and % should i look for ?

cause i just spend 1h on a rock for only 1/4 cargo hold :S

[rugged axle]

Prospector?

[boreal crest]

ok got ya

and Lydia or Yale for best to mine quan?

Yela sorry

[worthy scroll]

I found plenty of easily minable +40% rocks in the belt.

And no need to fight the weather there.

[boreal crest]

ok but planet wise ?

[rugged axle]

Lyria is rhe best planet side.

[cursive hinge]

Can you make money from buying raw ore and refining?

[gaunt fiber]

You cannot buy raw ore, you can only mine for it. All the commodities that you can buy cannot be refined.

[cursive hinge]

I see. ty

[gaunt fiber]

No problem. If you’re looking to get into trading or learn more about buying and selling, I really like this site: https://uexcorp.space

[cursive hinge]

Yeah just got a cutlass black so I'm looking into it. Decided not to sell slam again. It takes so long to sell 😄

[boreal crest]

i feel i am not doing this right

am i supause to always lazer the same spot on the rock ???

[ivory gust]

Different spots on the rock seem to absorb power differently, so you can wiggle around to find a good spot.

What issue are you having?

[boreal crest]

ok

mass was to big mass was 6900 and i am with a prospector

[ivory gust]

Yes, can't do that without modules (surge/stampede/optimum)

[boreal crest]

i hgabe 1 spampede and 3 brandt

2

[ivory gust]

Those won't help with larger rocks

You need the surge in order to increase the rock's power level

[boreal crest]

got ya

still learning 😄

[cunning fiber]

https://sc-trade.tools/mining?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522C2%2520Hercules%2522,%2522investment%2522:1000000,%2522depositType%2522:%2522Spaceship%2522,%2522profitType%2522:%2522pure%2522,%2522itemTypes%2522:%255B%2522Medical%2520Supply%2522,%2522Vice%2522,%2522Waste%2522%255D,%2522itemNames%2522:%255B%255D%257D

This site says Arial is supposedly the best planet to mine on, is that true?

or do I misunderstand?

Also do I mine all the low value ores aswel or wait for a good rock?

[sinful parcel]

are drugs worth it to trade?

[fallen atlas]

Not really

[ivory gust]

Not for ship mining, no.

Generally, since most ores are worth a lot less than quantanium, you ignore other ores and only get as much Quant as you can. For that, you want Lyria or the belt.

[foggy spear]

In small quantities there is a profitable trade loop. I can let you know in a bit... at work.

[sinful parcel]

I did a small run with my freelancer max and ended up losing seems like not enough in the way of profitable buyers unless there are hidden ones that aren't published

[fallen atlas]

There is a hidden terminal at arccorp I believe but I don't remember off the top of my head

[sinful parcel]

I know of the one at grim and cru l4 and cru l5 but that's about it

And I easily max it out with just the freelancer but I wanted to make some good coin with my caterpillar. I just don't think drugs are worth it

Half the time I can't even fill with larinite

[worthy scroll]

You pretty much never will, with how cargo works right now. Get all the laranite that's there, then get the next best thing. I pull close to 100k per run in my Cat doing that.

*Over 100k

[sinful parcel]

I usually run astatine it does pretty good but have to sell on planet

[fallen atlas]

I usually do Laranite, titanium, and diamond in my C2, just as much as I can buy/fit of each

[worthy scroll]

Laranite and titanium for me. I haven't had to step down to a third one in the Cat.

When I still had my C2, yeah, sometimes.

[sinful parcel]

I pull in over 100k with astatine I was just hoping the juice would be worth the squeeze with drugs and worth the hassle but it's not

You would think with the added danger and amount invested it would be worth it

Why they did away with audio visual which was worth the trouble and the coin

[ivory gust]

AV equipment and a couple other commodities were special limited time things for ILW

[simple lintel]

are the cargo runs basted? as soon as I buy cargo and take off the server is logging me off. I just got back to the game after some time off

lost all the little money I had on those runs

[worthy scroll]

That's definitely something else happening, not related to cargo.

Extremely unlucky 30k's? But we have 30k recovery now, if you wait for it to kick in.

[simple lintel]

what do you mean wait? it will just show up back in my cargo?

and yes, I guess unlucky, 3 times in the row

[worthy scroll]

If it was a 30k. I don't remember how long it is, 10 or 15 minutes, but if you wait that long you should get your cargo back, provided your ship wasn't destroyed.

[simple lintel]

thank you, no, it was not destroyed. have a good one

and what about the ARC-L stations? are they doubled now? I can see two of them pretty close to each other ARC-L5, one named yellow core station

[worthy scroll]

The stations were moved a bit from the actual lagrange points recently. You have the point you first jump in to, then another point (ARC L5-A), and then the station.

[simple lintel]

oh, I see, thank you very much

[worthy scroll]

Harumph I say. HARUMPH

[ivory gust]

MOLE claims faster than a Prospector, what

[fluid sun]

i almost have enough to get a prospector, is mining doing okay? seen some complaints that rocks can't be scanned etc

and another question, how much cargo space do i need to go sell one refined load of ore?

wonder how much use the cutty black will be for selling

[ivory gust]

Unscannables are a problem in the belt, but you can either ignore them or get out of your seat and back in to work around it

[ivory gust]

A full Prospector load will be ~31 SCU after refining, so a Cutlass can only carry one full load (or a couple smaller loads) at a time. It's usable if you only want to run one or two loads at a time, but if you stack up a bunch of refinery jobs, you'll want to rent something larger (Freelancer, 66 SCU or Andromeda, 96 SCU) in order to make fewer trips

[fluid sun]

great thanks

[ivory gust]

Note that in addition to the Prospector purchase itself, you'll need to have enough additional money to cover a Lancet head (~24k) plus refining fees (~6k per full load for the slowest high-yield option)

[fluid sun]

okay, i was planning on making a little more to get some mods but im not up to speed on what to get, have heard of the lancet head though

[ivory gust]

only upgrade you need is the Lancet head

Also recommended would be to upgrade the quantum drive to either an Atlas if you still want to be able to fly all the way across the system, or a Spectre if you want the fastest for short hops from a refining station to the mining area

[fluid sun]

okay, does a shield upgrade help protect against exploding rocks?

[ivory gust]

not really in my experience, if you explode a rock you're dead anyway

[fluid sun]

got it, ty

[shut remnant]

is solo mole mining viable?

[long elbow]

can you mine with the aurora

[fallen atlas]

no

[zenith maple]

you would have to do on foot mining, using to to fly too planet/moon mining spots, especially caves can have stuff for on foot mining.

but most stuff is aimed at either ship or ROC

[ivory gust]

Yes, but can be frustrating since you can't scan well

[marble crater]

it's doable just slow

[cobalt rivet]

solo is best option for mole, you dont have to share money

might take a little longer but if you got a juicy rock, thats two prospectors load in one go

just give it a military quantum drive

[cobalt rivet]

Nothing is too large for a single prospector!

That chart is a partial lie

[jovial matrix]

why should you impound instead of landing?

[stone flower]

What’s the best ore to mine with the prospector that isn’t quantium

[worthy scroll]

Bexalite.

[stone flower]

Where would that location be

[jovial matrix]

also just lost half a mole's worth of quant because the elevator killed me and my friend

[worthy scroll]

It's worth half of what quant is, but it's the highest value non-volatile.

[worthy scroll]

Go down to the mining section, you can find what you need to know.

https://sc-trade.tools/home

[stone flower]

Thx

[ivory gust]

Because there's a good chance that if you go into the hangar and land, your quant will blow up or go inert. Impounding is cheap and zero risk

[edgy bobcat]

going on my first mining trip with my new prospector but it keeps spawning in the air and i can't get into it :/

[ivory gust]

https://support.robertsspaceindustries.com/hc/en-us/articles/360056254754-Star-Citizen-Alpha-3-17-2-Known-Issues#h_01G90ADT2GB9F25ZEZ1689N0SC

in future, turn off engines when you land

although note that after removing powerplant and retrieving, you should get in and turn off the engines, that's not listed

[worthy scroll]

I didn't know that was a thing. I've just been landing, storing, and doing things like the old days.

[worthy scroll]

I've been able to fix that by either claiming and respawning the ship, or relogging. You may have to do it more than once. But it's always worked for me.

[ivory gust]

Claiming will definitely work

[worthy scroll]

I've had that happen at random, leaving the engines on (something I never do) isn't the only thing that causes it.

[ivory gust]

The only times I've ever seen it are when the engines are on, whether because I left them on or because I hit a 30k and the ship got stored for me

[worthy scroll]

Yeah, when a 30k happens and it spawns back in like that, that's annoying.

[ivory gust]

Just make sure you turn off the engines before hitting a 30k, obviously 🤷

[worthy scroll]

Obviously!

[sleek torrent]

Are there dangers of transporting Astatine? Is it similar to Quant? Will it blow up my ship if I’m damaged?

[ivory gust]

No, no, no

[sleek torrent]

Just remove the power plants, spawn ship. Go and turn off engine. Store ship. Put power plants back in and spawn again. And remember to turn off engine if possible

[sleek torrent]

I only ask because the wiki said it’s highly unstable

[worthy scroll]

Relogging or storing/respawning the ship is way faster than all that and works 😂

[ivory gust]

Not always

[worthy scroll]

🤷 It has for me.

Granted it's a very rare problem for me to run into. As said before, usually due to a 30k. But doing one of those has always fixed it.

[karmic vigil]

Has anyone had any trouble upgrading your Mole and when you try to take off and point to a marker, it says "NO POWER" everthing seems ok, so I'm not sure what is going on. Any ideas?

[ivory gust]

U then R

Or use the mfd to turn on the qd

[edgy bobcat]

what percentages of quant should i be looking out for?

i keep finding rocks with like 2-4% quant in them and i don’t know if i should extract or not

[ivory gust]

#industrial-professions message

At 5000 mass, 1% == 1 SCU of ore, so you can do the math from there

[crimson oak]

absolute minimum 25%, ideally over 30% quant on rocks with a mass as close to 5k as possible on average.

[edgy bobcat]

oh ic thanks

[barren pebble]

morning, the good "early indicator" without having to go very close would be looking at the green part of the laser power section, the smaller it is the bigger percentage of quant would be in. At least that's what is working for me the most

I've already asked in the help section, but maybe this would be more appropriate:

mining quantanium with a rented prospector...made two refinery jobs, hauled with a rented cutty to loreville, sold for a nice 500k profit...Saw it on my balance...Next time i logged in the money is not there. Tried logging out and back in, killing the game, tried all servers...no luck 😦 Is there anything i can do to get that money back? Thank you all!

any help would be appreciated 😄 i think it is lost but i dont want to loose hope!

[serene quest]

Nope you're SOL

until maybe it shows up in your wallet at some point

[ivory gust]

We told you not to mine Quant with a rented Prospector but you refused to listen, so that's what happens

There are lots of issue council reports about people losing money, go up vote one of them

Unlikely it'll get fixed before 3.18, if ever

[barren pebble]

you told me? This would be the first time i post in this section. Sorry maybe i missed something. I am happy for any advice - so when i rent a prospector and make money with it it will be lost?

even when i refine it and i see the profit on my account? is it still related to the fact that i have rented the prospector?

[ivory gust]

It was a joke, sorry. The general advice is that mining Quant with a rented Prospector isn't worth it due to the extra effort needed

[barren pebble]

oh 😄

i mean, i was doing pretty good 🙂

i guess if i see the money on my account i will quickly spend it on something...anything...before logging out...got some jobs running so i will haul all to TTD and buy that prospector to be my own...

that way the money might not be lost 😄

cheers mate! Enjoy the weekend!

[ivory gust]

That's probably the safe bet, yeah. Lots of bugs this patch

[barren pebble]

and i am okay with that 🙂 but many times there are some black voodoo workarounds so asking here if maybe....

[ivory gust]

Not aware of any, sorry

[sleek torrent]

When buying and selling cargo. Is gallog the best resource to use?

[vestal ravine]

Reeko: If you get short handed for space bucks I can either give you 100K or it can be a loan to tide you over. Side note: I have an alt account but I have not used it to store cash.

[barren pebble]

Man, very generous, appreciated! But I am good 🙂 i am on my long journey to save for my own prospector 🙂 this could have been the last mile but i got already more tasks in refinery that will get me there 🙂 i will just use the money immediately without keeping then in my account. But hey, all kudos to you my friend!

[hollow sedge]

Guys, I have one big question, but i dont know if this is right channel to ask. Its about Starfarer tanker . So question is how to operate it alone when refuling. Problem is that if you go out from pilot seat, ship is hoping, and ship who needs to refuel, cant dock. So how to solve that problem when you alone in ship ?? If one person is siting in pilot seat is no problem then.

[rugged axle]

Welcome to the desynch issue. Solo mole miners have the same issue.

[hollow sedge]

I know, i em mining al the time with mole

[rugged axle]

I donr know how the starfarer works. But could you go deploy the fueling arm. Then head back to the pilot seat until the other ship is docked? Once it's docked, the bounce shouldn't matter

[barren pebble]

I think i need a diazepam 😒 the game hates me. I was hauling 46 scu to loreville…and my game disconencts 😒 i was right above loreville. Is there anything i can do to get it back? I’ve already mined like 1.2m worht of quantanium (refined) but my income so far is only 250k 😒 all other times the game glitched on me. Any way to get this full cutty back or is it lost? 😒

If i claim the ship it is lost right?

Says its stored in loreville. Will try my luck flying there and see of the cargo is still intact. If not…this might already make a bit frustrated 😄

[worthy scroll]

It depends. If it was a 30k, just wait for the 30k recovery to kick in, you should get everything back. Since the ship wasn't destroyed, you should have a pretty high chance of still having it.

But yes, if you claim the ship, you'll lose anything in it.

I've had my fair share of lost gear due to crashes. 17.2 has crashed on me more than any other patch I can remember, and it's always while I'm flying down to land somewhere. Since it's a game crash and not a 30k, it takes the server a little bit to realize that I'm not there anymore, and it's long enough for my ship to plow into the planet, killing me and destroying my ship.

Every death I've had this patch has been because of that.

[barren pebble]

You on nvidia gpu?

I’ve managed to mitigate most of my crashed by down volting my gpu

I only get disconnects now

Ok went to tdd could not see cutty in “sell” will try to retrieve it now and se eif that helps 😒

Btw what is the 30k recovery?

[worthy scroll]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/4/thread/ptu-feedback-server-crash-ship-recovery

[barren pebble]

Just reading it. Pretty cool 👍

Ok when i retrieved it i can see the cargo in the admin office. Moving to tdd 🙈

I dont want to give up ob mining as i love it 😄

Tha ks brunnen

[worthy scroll]

Putting up with issues is just part of playing an alpha. We all have to deal with it.

[barren pebble]

Absolutely. I am still very fresh to the game and i appreciate the help! It worked. Gonna buy my own prospector now 👍 thank you!!!

[rugged axle]

If you 30k. Which it sounds like you actually did. You have to retrieve from it being auto stored. Then store again

[barren pebble]

All worked well 👍 too bad i already lost like 600k since i started mining and nowni sit at 20k 😄 😄 😄 but i got prospector! Gotta grind some monitors i guess 👍

[low nova]

Anyone able to tell me where to look for quantanium mining with the prospector?

Had some luck inbetween ARC L1 and HURSTON hopping out of QT at around 13.4-13.5M km away from HURSTON.
I hear loads of people talk about Lyria and such but not really any succes so probably doing something wrong, also reason i’m looking for more info is cus my method gives me like 150k every 1 and a half hours just of how hard it is to find such a rock and be able to mine it aswell (scanning and mining sometimes dont work)

Also Aaron halo and stuff is pretty popular but i don’t get where it is and stuff.. some say i am in aaron halo but i’m deffenitly doing something wrong whilst still following tutorials so idk what is wrong

[cobalt rivet]

[rugged axle]

If you drop qt at 13.4km leaving arc l1 going to hurston...you are in the halo.

Lyria is full of quant in patches of 2 or more rocks.

[cobalt rivet]

If you cant find quant 15 minutes in lyria, jump to another area in same moon. If you get string of bad luck, bed log and find another server, youll spawn in your ship in the same area you log

Things get mined out from time to time

In an hr you should have already done at least 2 prospector loads

Each being at least 60% quant per load

The meta for searching rocks on lyria without having ti slow down and scan is to count the rocks. If there are at least 2 rocks sitting next to each other they are worth slowing down to scan

[cerulean lichen]

Yep every muti rock cluster I have found on lyria is always quant. Though I have only been mining there for 3 days so could just be my luck

[ivory gust]

Nope, that's how it works currently. All clusters are quantanium on lyria

[barren pebble]

Evening lads, can you point me to the map of the quantum exit points to hit band 5?

[ivory gust]

https://cstone.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes

[jovial matrix]

Why should you get your ship impounded instead of landing normally when you have a hold full of quant?

[barren pebble]

Thank you!!!

[ivory gust]

Already answered you yesterday #industrial-professions message

[jovial matrix]

Ah you did? That’s my bad for not checking, thanks for answering again though

[barren pebble]

One more q guys. Just getting into prospector minung. Surge and other modules are consumables?

[ivory gust]

Some modules are consumable, some are passive.

Surge, Stampede, Optimum, Brandt are the useful consumables

[barren pebble]

Do these activated automatically?

[ivory gust]

No, you need to activate them yourself, with alt+1, alt+2, alt+3

[barren pebble]

Awesome 👍👌 thank you!!!

[cobalt rivet]

Top to bottom order

[shut remnant]

best passive modules for mole?

[glacial dagger]

When quant mining, I rock 2x Lancet II each with 2x ReigerC3 and 1x VauxC3, and then a Helix II with 3x FLTRXL for a cleaner extraction

[shut remnant]

you have one head specifically for extraction?

[glacial dagger]

For a fully crewed Mole, yes

[shut remnant]

huh, makes sense i guess

[glacial dagger]

FLTR modules reduce the amount of inert material collected

Then again, personally, I prefer usign the mole to crack and then some prospectors to do the collection

[shut remnant]

yeah i see, just in the module terminal now. that thing would be a super sucker

[glacial dagger]

That's only if I'm using a big fleet

[shut remnant]

you say FLTR over XTR-XL?

[glacial dagger]

Lemme have a quick look at the modules again

[shut remnant]

wait im dumb nvm its +50%

you want minus lol

[glacial dagger]

yh, the FLTR-XL

[shut remnant]

wait then its useless... im confused :D

FLTR makes the extraction rate slower right?

just reduces inert

[glacial dagger]

Reduces extraction rate while reducing the amount of inert taken onboard so you can hold more of the good stuff

The helix II has a pretty decent extraction rate, so it ofsets it pretty well 😄

[shut remnant]

oh ok i get ya

thanks for your help!

[edgy bobcat]

uh so i just suffered a 30k while out mining and i had a partially full load of quant

i loaded back in the station with my ship automatically stored but im trying to set up a work order and it wont let me choose my prospector