industrial-professions

[jovial matrix]

True

[serene quest]

before you sold though it should show you the amount per item, can always verify on your next run

[jovial matrix]

Yeah

It might’ve been that even though I had a similar amount of pieces of each ore, the hadanite didn’t take up nearly as much volume as the dolivine, if that makes sense

[serene quest]

But iirc Hadanite is like 275 with Dolo being 130

[jovial matrix]

Yeah hadanite is definitely worth more, it’s 120 V. 250

[serene quest]

been considering doing a few cave runs

with a 2scu crate

[coarse gyro]

can you move raw mined ore from a prospy to another ship?

[raw shell]

negative

[onyx lake]

In the future sometime, mined ore should be able to be transferred from the Prospector to the Expanse for refining. (not sure about the Mole)

[coarse gyro]

f, wanted to just run between aberdeen and everus then dump it all in a refinery at once

[raw shell]

you can transfer from a ship to a refinery. Just not from ship to another ship, then a refinery

[meager gorge]

I haven’t done that myself but my friend experienced that and he thinks it’s a bug or something where the dolivine taken off their bodies is worth more.

[jovial matrix]

Interesting

I can maybe check the math on the next run I do

[serene quest]

is there a refinery wipe soon?

[ivory gust]

Yes, when the hotfix patch lands

[graceful sand]

whatll it patch?

[ivory gust]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/1/thread/alpha-3-17-2-incoming-hotfix

[graceful sand]

o ty

[sly pebble]

Is it possible to fit an ROC into the back of a cutty red?

I wanna know because if it does fit then i can mine for longer

[mild pumice]

I think it might just about but over hangs the ramp slightly, you also won't be able to walk around it so don't leave through a side door

[ivory gust]

I haven't done it myself but I've heard yes, with the caveat that you have to drive in forwards and if you exit via a side door you won't be able to get back in

[sly pebble]

Icic

Well i dont really ever use the side doors so thats fine

[mild pumice]

It's the only way to get out with the ROC stowed, I guess you could let it get impounded by driving out on the landing bay. You just won't be able to get back onto your stored Cutty if you retrieve it with the Roc in

[ivory gust]

Also how exactly does a cutlass red let you "mine for longer"?

[sly pebble]

Food and water

[mild pumice]

Med beds I'm assuming but you just carry food and water

[sly pebble]

I could but im lazy

[mild pumice]

Handy if you fall over lol.

[gentle brook]

Yes

[raw shell]

really wish they'd put steps on those side doors for both the red and the black.

like the valk has

[umbral rune]

thought occurs

would the anticheat have issues with editing a texture file? Like the progress bar for mining to add a % gauge kindof thing

since surge is how it is, should probably be in the game

[ivory gust]

probably anti-cheat would be unhappy yeah, but you might be able to use one of those programs that lets you make custom overlays and do something with that?

[umbral rune]

maybe

my hate for how surge works is endless, but I keep finding good rocks that are too big to mine

also I've heard helix is nerfed to be worse than it's stats show, do we actually know it's current stats or is it just in a vague 'bad' zone right now?

[raw shell]

It's certainly not worth the cost. Can't break shit with it

[gentle brook]

Helix isn't useful for quant. It's all lancet. And surge is my baby
The more you use it, the more comfortable you'll be with it

[cobalt rivet]

Meta is Lancet, surge, optimum. But with a Helix and gadget you can bust super biug rocks

like 8k rocks

solo

[ivory gust]

Correction: Meta is lancet, surge, stampede

[cobalt rivet]

GL cracking big rock with stampede

[ivory gust]

Everybody other than you has figured out how to do it all the time, and after hotfix patch drops I'll make a video for you

Stampede and Optimum both have the same purpose in this case: ensure that the power stays in the green long enough to finish the green, they just do it in different ways. Optimum does it by embiggening the green so you stay in the green longer, Stampede does it by making the green finish faster.

[raw shell]

I add brandt to surge and stampede, for unstable rocks where the bar jumps like crazy

[ivory gust]

Lancet does all the instability reduction you need

[raw shell]

perhaps I'm just not as adept with the throttle. Brandt helps for those rocks that like to jump into red unexpectedly

[mild pumice]

I roll my mouse to stay in the green, don't need those gimmicks

Server lag can be a pain tho

[raw shell]

well yeah, like I said.. for those of us that aren't so awesome 😄

[mild pumice]

I honestly thought that was lag

[mild pumice]

I'm not awesome lol. I've had my fair share of oops moments 😆

[raw shell]

oh sometimes it is lag, not all the time though

brandt makes it so you dont have to up/down with the throttle so much. It does take a little longer to get through the green though.

[mild pumice]

I managed this recently with just the Lancet

Took a while to charge though!

[cobalt rivet]

what mass

I cannot read that small blurry text

[ivory gust]

5703

[cobalt rivet]

nice

[mild pumice]

I dunno of I could go much bigger but I'll try a 5900 if I see one 😆

Imma do more mining after the hotfix whilst everyone is fighting at JT

[cobalt rivet]

its gets hard after 6k

def need modules

"hard"

[ivory gust]

5703 is probably pretty close to the limit for a no-module lancet, I doubt you could do 6k or higher

[mild pumice]

I'm up.for the challenge

[hollow wharf]

hey all! is it just me or is the deep space mining very broken this go around

ive ran around the belt for hours it seems like and every quant rock i find is unscanable or 3%

[mild pumice]

Not just you, I couldn't find anything to mine in the Halo so went to Lyria

[hollow wharf]

right on! i thought i was loosing it for a munite

[mild pumice]

I was there a good hour and gave up, couldn't scan anything

[hollow wharf]

thats how it was for me, and i tryed a few different times with no luck

[ivory gust]

A) in the belt you can tell if something is unscannable from 12km away so you don't need to waste time on them
B) If you're seeing lots of unscannables, try standing up from your chair and sitting back down (in game)--it seems to "reset" the unscannable signals and get rid of them

[hollow wharf]

ill have to give that a go!!! Cheers!

[royal cairn]

belt was good for me yesterday

[hollow sedge]

o: there a way to find where the closet major city is without searching every single planet?

to sell my refined crap

[hollow wharf]

there are sell points at every major planet

[jovial matrix]

Just fly to the closest planet, they’ve all got cities

[hollow wharf]

arc- A18.. micro tech new babage.... ect

[ivory gust]

There are only 4 major cities. Lorville on Hurston, Area18 on ArcCorp, New Babbage on microTech, and Orison on Crusader

[fluid sun]

what's at the other areas besides 18? just rooftops for deliveries?

[mild pumice]

Yeah pretty much

[umbral rune]

the main benefit I find with the deep space is that every rock is mineable without modules

but, buggy. bugged rocks are common

biggest issues with lyria are big rocks that require half-assed modules to break, and that they can clip under them ap

[fluid sun]

where ma patch at yall lol

[umbral rune]

good question

I didn't hear about it til i was in game, so i rushed to deliver all my refined q.

I save it up to fill a cat

[ivory gust]

"later this week"

[fluid sun]

yeah i know

are we there yet?

[dapper mesa]

People were speculating earlier that hotfix would be deployed before JT as they wouldn't want to interrupt an event. Made sense, so I interrupted several large orders and went and turned them in.

[royal cairn]

I'd say probably soon if not right before JT like you said

[dapper mesa]

Lancet with surge, second surge, optimum then stampede will break anything you find.

[marble crater]

Sold all my refinery orders last night looks like good timing

[cobalt rivet]

STONKS

[mild pumice]

I wasn't going to login today just did to test the laptop
Looking forward to more mining as long as they don't wipe my Prospector lol

[coarse gyro]

is a lancer max profitable enough as a base cargo ship to be worth a pledge pre overhaul/w the current state of things

i have a taurus which can do 96scu, feels unnecessary yet tempting

[marble crater]

Taurus has 174scu so the Max would be a downgrade

[mild pumice]

Taurus is 174scu

Max is 120

[coarse gyro]

oh oops

duh

[mild pumice]

Maxlancer is a good ship at its price, 150 usd but for 190 the Taurus is a good upgrade

[marble crater]

Taurus is great value for what you get

[waxen flame]

M8, back in the days, I used to jump the Taurus and go straight for the C2

[marble crater]

C2 is very expensive in the pledge store

[waxen flame]

Oh pledge

[coarse gyro]

yeah taurus is my current — for some reason i thought the max was higher scu

[waxen flame]

sorry m8

[mild pumice]

I only have a C2 as it's a BMM loaner but it's nice to have

[marble crater]

C2 bought in game is definitely the go if you enjoy cargo for sure

[waxen flame]

yeah

[coarse gyro]

i have a prospy in game so i’ll get there lol

[marble crater]

Hope Cargo Refactor in 3.18 shakes up the C2 meta

[mild pumice]

Nah, there's nothing really until the carrack (464) caterpillar (576) or the C2 (696)

[coarse gyro]

was avoiding mining before the patch dropped however

[coarse gyro]

bet

[mild pumice]

I'm avoiding playing 😆

[coarse gyro]

lmao yeah

[full mantle]

OH jt MOVED.. THANKS FOR THE HEADSUP

oops caps soz

[signal jacinth]

So patch hasnt dropped yet?

[glacial dagger]

Nope. Considering we're still in 3.17.2...

[signal jacinth]

Ohw i meant hotfix thing also just making sure haven't been on in a while

Elevators been messing with me so i stopped

[glacial dagger]

Oh, elavators have mostly been fixed, jsut go carfeully into MT, those ones can still be a little odd

[plush maple]

I still have yet to experience an elevator issue

I rarely go to MT though so maybe that's why

[west tide]

I only ever experience it at new babbage and Everest harbour coming down from the Habs. So if you never go to MT or never go to prison then makes sense you never have an issue

[plush maple]

Weird that it's location specific like that

[glacial dagger]

Yup

Orison Elavators are also kinda buggy, so...

[lyric tusk]

Can you solo mine in the Mole?

[marble crater]

yep can be used solo but it's a pain tbh

[lyric tusk]

But it's capable and then when my crew is on we can all mine together?

[marble crater]

capable is a stretch, every step of the process, from scanning till extraction is super slow solo

it's good with a crew though

[lyric tusk]

Yeah I am watching a video on it, yeah definitely not the best for solo

[marble crater]

I can describe the overall solo experience as frustrating

[lyric tusk]

Ok I will just stick to my Prospector then

[marble crater]

if you have a crew though it can be good fun using the Mole & it's one of the better paying group activities

[lyric tusk]

Yeah I was thinking about upgrading my pledge and then just do my solo money making doing bounty hunting like I do now

[full sapphire]

Does ArcCorp mining area 61 still buy WiDoW?

[dapper mesa]

Tbh once you figure out how to orient yourself, solo mole is fine for lyria. The front turret has an excellent arc, and if you get two good rocks next to each other, you can position yourself right in between and break both without having to move

[cobalt rivet]

Crewing is for losers , cool people solo lonely ships

[rugged axle]

Mole is fine solo for lyria. It sucks for halo due to scanning

[topaz bay]

will the reset erase any pending work orders at a mining facility?

[proven sleet]

Yeah anything pending will be gone

[topaz bay]

hm dang ok

[cobalt rivet]

Small stipend of 100 mil

[fallen atlas]

if only

[mild pumice]

Where did you read this?

[topaz bay]

so i guess i'll just stop them processing and collect to be safe

[mild pumice]

Yeah @topaz bay I'd get them done ASAP

Surely the patch will be in the next few hours unless they postpone it for the weekend and run the event without it.

[fallen atlas]

I may have misinterpreted this post https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/status-of-1-mill-auec-bonus-with-this-weeks-charac

so perhaps not a stipend, this might have been in regards to the previous 1 mil they gave out

[mild pumice]

Oh yeah that was someone asking about their 1m if they haven't spent it yet

[fallen atlas]

damn Spectrum and cutting out context.

I read that as a top level reply instead of a reply to a previous comment

[crimson oak]

I probably shouldn't do any mining or trading until that patch then

[cobalt rivet]

Prob not

[plush maple]

so my game crashed when i QTd- guessing my cargo is toast?

[crimson oak]

not always miner

if it crashed you should find yourself back in your ship in the middle of space

if it was a 30k then you should be back in station with the ship properly stored

it aint always 100% tho

[plush maple]

You were right, spawned in ship

And I do mean IN. In the walls lol

[thorn jasper]

waiting anxiously for the patch to drop so i can go back to mining

[raw shell]

The answer is YES dammit.. fml.

[jagged storm]

if you can phase out to make it to a bed, do it and then just get back up

[plush maple]

I made it to a ladder and that fixed things

[jagged storm]

ayy nice

[raw shell]

and a 6 century BC Chinese cookbook would make more sense than the bloody MFD

[ivory gust]

Yes, repair every time you stop at an outpost to sell your haul

[raw shell]

did'nt even get that far yet. Just finished filling this roc and it died 20m from my ship

now I have to wait like 45 minutes for the damn thing to cool and hope I don't time out because I'm distracted doing other shit. This blows.

[ivory gust]

If the cooler is already 100% damaged it's not going to recover

[silent igloo]

you need a ride?

[plush maple]

Why don't you try having someone push your roc with another vehicle?

[raw shell]

ugh crud, had a meeting and somehow died in my roc

[unique flame]

probably food/water

[raw shell]

shit dead

my death shot was being ejected from the roc full of hadanite

Wonder if I can find it from my corpse marker

[cobalt rivet]

[raw shell]

just when I was starting to think roc mining was finally working great

[ivory gust]

Probably overheated yourself

[raw shell]

so is there something on this that should tell me I'm screwed?

[ivory gust]

Is your engine turned on?

[raw shell]

it was at that point

[ivory gust]

The drive train has 0 next to the health

I think is the problem?

[raw shell]

ok wasn't moving so that would make sense

it just died out of nowhere though

now all the hanger doors at GH... game fkn over for that hadanite load methinks

[ivory gust]

How gentle were you being when shifting gears? You might have burned out the clutch if you weren't double clutching like you should

[raw shell]

gears? in a roc?

[ivory gust]

Yes, when you shift from forward to neutral to reverse, or similar

Need to double clutch and Rev match

I'm pulling your leg, that's not a thing

[raw shell]

lol

[ivory gust]

You can keep an eye on component health in that MFD and see as things start to get low... If something gets below 40 you should wrap up your trip to go repair

[raw shell]

doesn't this happen to everyone that mines in a roc? Feel like I'm the only one this happens to

other than this mess, the ROC was working great

[ivory gust]

If you own the roc you can upgrade the power plant and cooler so it doesn't happen as quickly

How long were you out and about with the thing before it happened?

[raw shell]

holy hell... got back to it somehow.. roc moves maybe 5m then dies again

[sleek torrent]

Is mining asteroids better or worse than planets if you are using the mole?

[raw shell]

well.... asteroids are harder to find good rocks and they're always like 4k. I've been finding better stuff on lyria

[ivory gust]

Asteroids much worse. MOLE can't effectively scan asteroids the way that Prospector can

But Lyria just relies on finding clusters, which you can still see from the pilot's seat of the MOLE without mining mode

[raw shell]

I've been finding many single rocks with quant

if it weren't for waiting on that patch, I'd be in my mole right now instead of fking with this dam roc

[mild pumice]

Patch delayed till next week

[raw shell]

🤦‍♂️

[mild pumice]

CIG only just updated

[hollow sedge]

anyone have any advice for hauling? i feel like im using SCTradeTools improperly. Granted i only have a taurus, but ill put in info for like a 50,000 currency purchase, and itll say the profit is about 18k or something if i take it to a place, so i do the thing, and the place only wants to buy like 1 unit, or the price doesnt match what it says and im just breaking even.

Call me lame, but i find hauling just... alot of fun, i wanna get into the big bucks side of it. any and all advice, videos, guides, etc to help me grasp its max potential would be appreciated

[raw shell]

I just saw one today by Hawkes gaming, 200k+/hour with a C2 between two sites on the same moon

If I had a c2 I'd be trying it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvT7fnItlWU&list=WL&index=1

[unique flame]

cheaper to do that with a cat. but still kinda shit money tbh

quant mining is lower startup cost and more profitable

[hollow sedge]

i do have a c2, that'd be useful, but ive only got 100k. feel like i need more money to fill a c2

[hollow sedge]

if only i knew how to find or harvest quant in a prospector

[unique flame]

pretty easy tbh, do you have one?

[raw shell]

@ivory gust were you serious about being able to upgrade components in the roc now? I didn't know that was a thing now.

[hollow sedge]

yeah got a c2, carreck, taurus, and prospy

[raw shell]

you should be rolling in dough then

[unique flame]

1. lancet mining head 2. use this map to park your butt in the thickest part of tha aaron halo https://cstone.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes 3. scan 180 degrees back to your refining station for hits 4. scan those hits with a 2 degree scan while you're in mining mode. you're looking for rocks that say Q-type

rinse and repeat untill you find a rock that's 30-40% quant and laser it into tiny little pieces to gobblegobblegobble

[raw shell]

highly recommend watching 3 or 4 videos and you'll get the method

[unique flame]

especially about scanning quickly and accurately

that's the biggest time sink

if rock spawns weren't like 50% bugged atm it'd go a lot faster

[hollow sedge]

bruh im on like day 4 of this game, i have no clue how to do half of th- actually

[hollow sedge]

yeah this. any video recommendations come to mind?

[unique flame]

damn, that's quite the investment for a day 4....

[raw shell]

there are tons of good ones, search for 3.17.2 quantanium mining

also, you could hunt around on Lyria for laranite and agrecium, or bexilite to start with. They pay decent and don't blow your ship up in cargo.

[hollow sedge]

c2 was the only investment

im very privileged

[unique flame]

here's one by some german guy so you know it's good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt99t0KA4iI

[raw shell]

once you get the hang of the mining laser, then tackle quantanium

[hollow sedge]

the taurus/prospy is a result of a welcome gift aquila i recieved and the 45$ starter pack i forgot was in my cart when i bought the $70 titan starter. so melted em down and got prospy and taurus.

carreck was me calling in a very important favor.

c2 was grey market because i like the way it looks and its just a big ass taurus.

[raw shell]

c2 holds a LOT more than a taurus

I'm gonna blow this roc the fuck up when I'm doing with this stupid hadanite venture. POS>

even tried pushing it into the cutlass with my titan. That did not work well

[sturdy summit]

what is the refine option on the starfarer for/does it function currently?

[hollow sedge]

this one specifies rented prospector. mine's Standalone. is there a key difference there?

[ivory gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLo-O0ptw-0

[ivory gust]

Only difference is that he has to glitch the loadout manager in order to swap the laser

[unique flame]

yeah just ignore the rented bit at the start of the video, i skipped to like 1/3rd in to check it

[hollow sedge]

whereas i wont because its standalone?

[ivory gust]

You'll just be able to use the loadout manager normally without needing to do the glitch he talks about

[ivory gust]

day 4 of the game, already has more than $1000 in ships, go figure

[hollow sedge]

perks of getting internet clout from a young age

[ivory gust]

50,000 is a very low starting capital, and trade tools won't give you good routes.

I recommend having at least 500,000 available, and then also on the left side Commodities -> Types -> select Vice, and Avoid Selection

Also make sure you uncheck "Allow Wait Times" on the left side, and enable "Show Stock Details"

[hollow sedge]

yeah im up to 100k trying to do small hauls in my taurus so i can work up to big ones in my c2. theres gotta be hauling for all shapes and sizes yeah?

[ivory gust]

Small hauls aren't worth it compared to other game loops like mining or bounty hunting currently

[hollow sedge]

but space trucker

[ivory gust]

check back in a year, gameplay might be better then

[unique flame]

that's....optimistic

[ivory gust]

probably your best bet is something like HDMS-Bezdek or HDMS-Lathan, buy all the available laranite, fill the rest of your hold with titanium, then go sell at lorville

[unique flame]

that gameplay loop will take another 2+ years if i'd have to guess, they're not doing much to it atm

[hollow sedge]

considering i permanently own the 5 or 6 ships that proc my interest, im not looking to make money fast straight out the gate, just wanna explore, be neutral, and slowly scale my profits in the peacefulness of space

[ivory gust]

Cargo refactor should be out within a year, which will change cargo hauling

[hollow sedge]

:D ya had me at laranite

then ya lost me lorville

:T fuck that train system

[ivory gust]

It's just a single ride from the spaceport to the central business district to sell

[unique flame]

what's the scope of that anyway, i've caught some snippets about it like actual loading/unloading. but that sounds pretty unfun....just another hurdle

[ivory gust]

Ask again in a year

Until then we won't know what it actually entails. My fear is that the first version will just be a load/unload timer that you have to wait for, depending on the amount of cargo... Which yes, will be very unfun

[hollow sedge]

my situational awareness is that of a toddler. my ability to remember which train to take or read a sign should be something im embarassed of

but in reality, im not, that's just my whole personality. i swear, ill be in everous harbor, take a left turn up some stairs, and suddenly im on orison

dont ask me how, idfk

[ivory gust]

There are similar routes available in the ArcCorp area, just use astatine, diamonds, tungsten (in that order) as filler instead of titanium

Only one tram to take there

[raw shell]

I think this is what I've been missing. Thanks! Hopefully that will prevent this from ever happening again. I finally got it into the cutty.

[ivory gust]

It doesn't prevent the ROC from having problems entirely, it just delays the inevitable. Still need to repair often

[raw shell]

question about hadanite, a long time ago I had done a lot of ROC mining, when it was far worse than it is now. At one point I did something with the gems that made credits available for when I got put into jail to get out immediately. I can't remember how I did that though. Does anyone know?

[ivory gust]

AFAIK the way it works now, you can only get those credits by turning in gems that you mined while in prison

Since you can't (easily) get gems into prison from outside, and the place you turn in gems for merits is inside

[raw shell]

ah damn, ok. thanks!

[hollow sedge]

with Laranite as the primary still?

[ivory gust]

Yes

[hollow sedge]

roger! thanks for all the advice and patience!

[sleek torrent]

Hey guys so I am breaking rocks with my mole, gathering with my laser after breaking them up. I can see small rocks traveling to my tractor beam. But how to I see my inventory? If I open my regular inventory I don’t see anything in the moles inventory itself. Is there a separate cargo inventory for the ore? And how do I look at it to see when I’m full?

[ivory gust]

When you're in a mining turret it's on the right side of the screen

[sleek torrent]

Thank you as always Chris

Am I going to need to log out once jumptown starts or is it just a smooth transition when it’s enabled?

[hollow sedge]

Jump got pushed to next week

Mine away

[vestal ravine]

Hot fix delayed. Miners regroup

[sleek torrent]

Ahh I thought it said they were pushing the hot if’s but still having jumptown

Yea doesn’t that say it’s still going live today

[hollow sedge]

Yeah rumor is it's 50/50

[sleek torrent]

Okay

[hollow sedge]

So im assuming like most things it's getting pushed too

[sleek torrent]

In the event it does happen today, will we be informed ingame that we need to log out?

[ivory gust]

Jumptown is happening today, you will not need to log out.

The patch is not happening today

[sleek torrent]

That’s what I understood from the cig message. Except I’ve never been on when an event initially kicked off so wasn’t sure how it worked

[ivory gust]

It just starts, you'll have a mission show up in the "Priority" category

[sleek torrent]

What’s the button I press after scanning to get info on the rock I am looking at

[ivory gust]

uh....there is no button? If you're in mining mode and close enough it's automatic

[sleek torrent]

Well when I am piloting my mole, I have had rocks show my their contents, sometimes they do and sometimes they don’t. I’m just trying to avoid jumping into the mining chair at every rock I fly to

I’ve seen it pop up in the pilot chair

[ivory gust]

oh, mole. use scan mode, hold left button

[sleek torrent]

Okay thank you

I knew I was pressing it but wasn’t sure what button it was that was causing it

[unique flame]

and dead rocks are definetly a thing

if the scanner thinks they're dead then they're 100% dead

[sleek torrent]

Oh, some don’t show up?

[ivory gust]

Yep, especially if you're in the Halo

[unique flame]

nah you can scan them, they just dont get a type

[sleek torrent]

And if I mine them they will just break and have nothing?

[ivory gust]

No, you won't be able to mine them

[sleek torrent]

Oh

[calm egret]

if the rock doesnt scan, get out of the pilot seat and back in. it will be scannable or disappear

if it disappeared it never existed

[sleek torrent]

Can I tell the type by the color of rock or is scanning the only way?

[unique flame]

not worth the trouble, just spin to the next sensor ping and move on

[sleek torrent]

Okay

[ivory gust]

Color alone won't tell you if it's a ghost/unscannable rock, you need to actually scan them

I think they've done something to improve the CTD handling. I just had a CTD and logged back into the ship where it was without logging back into the same server...

Didn't end up mattering since apparently while I was offline my quant jumped from 13min left to 0min left and blew me up as soon as I was back in, but still 🤷

[sleek torrent]

Great. Got it. This is my 3rd attempt at mining. Roc was not fun, I did get some stuff but just not fun. Prospector lasted about 20 minutes and I gave up. The mole, doing pretty well and starting to understand the workings of it. Plus I enjoy the ship. Everything was good until the first 30k for me in a few days

We crashed at the same time 😂

[calm egret]

yeah probably right, just mentioning it

[unique flame]

the disconnect from the mining turret to the ship controls is what turns me off from the mole

great if you're like 2-3 guys tho

[sleek torrent]

all your guys Info is helpful and I appreciate it

[sleek torrent]

At first I didn’t like it because I couldn’t figure out how to scan the rocks and see what they had. I don’t mind jumping seats if I know what I’m mining. Also don’t mind having a crew some day

Except for the crash I just had and I’m back at a station.

That sucks

[unique flame]

reclaim time for a ship that big....ooof

[ivory gust]

30k is server crash, will put you back at station

Should be able to retrieve ship though without waiting for claim

[sleek torrent]

And my ore will be on it?

[unique flame]

not sure.....go and see i guess

[sleek torrent]

No shit

[ivory gust]

Theoretically yes. Assuming you're at a refinery station, retrieve it, then store it immediately, then head to refinery

[sleek torrent]

I made my regen a refinery thankfully

[viral shoal]

Does anyone know if the Argo Raft is still bugged?

[cobalt rivet]

Lol the long wait for a hotfix so people can mine again an dthey postpone it for next week

[viral shoal]

So that's a no then I take it?

Opha

My baby still unfliable

[unique flame]

so i went looking for a patch note that mentioned that. no luck. any idea where that is?

[royal cairn]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/1/thread/alpha-3-17-2-incoming-hotfix/5312482

[unique flame]

oh no the mining fix thingy

i can see the delay

[royal cairn]

ohhh

[lime nova]

i have recently come into the possession of a prospector. are the halo's quant rocks fixed?

[royal cairn]

i havent had any issues besides the unscannables, but I just get out of my seat and those dissapear

[lime nova]

alright.

[royal cairn]

Antario, what is wrong with mining for you?

[unique flame]

i was hoping that was what he meant cause that's the only issue i've been having while mining

unscannable rocks are annoying AF

makes up like half

[lime nova]

I'll be outfitting her for quantanium mining tomorrow.

[unique flame]

just pick up a lancet, a surge and a stampede and you're pretty much good to go

takes 5 mins at any refining station

[lime nova]

I know, I've just turned in for the night.

[unique flame]

ah

[meager gorge]

What’s the proper way to use a surge and stampede combo?

[unique flame]

find rock > scroll laser up to 100% > alt+1 for surge (BOOOM) > wait till it hits the green bit and alt+2 for stampede > don't overcook it and wait for it to pop

[meager gorge]

Simple enough hahah. Thanks

I’ve been mining awhile but mostly avoid actives because I feel like I’ll misuse them

[unique flame]

they're just timesavers if you use the right ones

5k mass quant rocks take like a minute or two to heat up sometimes

surge and stampede shave off a lot of that

[meager gorge]

Well we all like making credits faster

[sleek torrent]

Can I not use two ships at the same time to have the goods loaded to when refining? I pick my Connie on one order, then my second order I choose another ship and it makes them both start to store on the second ship.

[unique flame]

you're trying to load a completed refining job into two ships?

[ivory gust]

It only actually stores the order that you click the button for

the ship dropdown changes for all completed orders but it's only delivered when you hit the button on that specific order, you have to re-select the ship for the second order anyway

that said, why would you want to have the orders on multiple ships? Just deliver all the orders that will fit to one ship, then take that ship to sell

[coarse gyro]

jesus what route would one even fill a catty on

[ivory gust]

Titanium

[coarse gyro]

like, my own?

[ivory gust]

No, buy it

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[sleek torrent]

Yea thanks Chris, once my order was finished, I understood how it worked.

Is the arbor laser on the mole sufficient or should I be getting the helix?

[ivory gust]

neither? get a lancet

[sleek torrent]

1 or 2?

[ivory gust]

Lancet is the only real choice for Quant, and quant is the only real choice for ores

Lancet MH2 is what the Mole uses

[sleek torrent]

Okay.

[ivory gust]

If you want to get really creative you could potentially have one of your lasers as an Impact head with a Brandt module for the first fracture on larger rocks if you don't like using surge/stampede

But I don't know what the practical mass limit for that is

[sleek torrent]

Either way I’m broke, might as well have a cardboard sign at the space station. Gotta mine whatever I can with the Arbor for a while

[ivory gust]

Lancet is only 23500 to buy

[marble crater]

oh so Hotfix delayed now lol 3.18 ain't coming this year is it

[worthy scroll]

I had virtually zero expectations of it dropping this year, even when .2 came out.

[ivory gust]

My biggest worry is that they'll push it out for IAE even if it's not actually ready

[worthy scroll]

Or shudder right before they go on holiday again. That's the big reason why I don't think we'll see it this year.

[cobalt rivet]

stampede sucks

[ivory gust]

I've been out mining again trying to make a video for you so you would shut up about stampede (since you're objectively wrong) but I have yet to actually need surge/stampede--all the trips I've made so far I've found stuff under 4500 that would fill my hold

[sleek torrent]

The mole needs a switch for the lift. Would be nice.

[cobalt rivet]

Need 8000 mass rocks breaking sub 6 k too easy

[coral haven]

aside from quant, is there any other ore i should look out for that pays well?

[cobalt rivet]

the second best pays like half

[marble crater]

quant meta makes mining pretty 1 dimensional which is a shame

[coral haven]

damn

[cobalt rivet]

mining in general sorta 1 dimensional, the only depth is the module and gadget use

you fly around and look for rocks. i'm not sure where the actual mines take place

[calm egret]

quant is definitely the best but if you really want to try other ores heres a list https://sc-trade.tools/ores/Spaceship

[coral haven]

ty

[calm egret]

np, lots of other useful stuff on that site as well

[tulip sparrow]

did they fix it to were 30ks dont delete cargo?

[copper goblet]

Hey how do I turn on the mining turret for the Argo mole

[calm egret]

there is 30k protection, it doesnt always work but its been pretty successful for me. the key is to wait 10-15 mins before trying to get your ship after the 30k, and when you go to the pad it should say stored in stanton and "retrieve" instead of "claim".

[copper goblet]

Does anybody know how to turn on the turrets for the Argo mole

[calm egret]

ive never been in the mole but usually on turrets you hold F and look around until you see "power on"

not sure if there is a hotkey, U maybe? thats the ship power hotkey at least

[ivory gust]

Power button is to the upper-left corner of the upper-right mfd

[copper goblet]

I have been looking for so long thank you so much

[lime nova]

alright, how do I get to the halo from CRU-L1?

[fading escarp]

http://www.cloudsong.io/application/files/1716/1082/7995/3.12-LIVE-Rel1-Refinery_Stations_to_Aaron_Halo_Mining_Routes.pdf

common going towards ARC L5

aka pg 1 of what I just sent you

[lime nova]

Alright.

How long have i got once i pick up the quant?

and how does one us the surge module?

figured out the surge

[fading escarp]

14min, shows in the lower right corner

(on prospector)

while in mining mode (m)

and don't boost, if you toggled handbrake (x) with boost, don't handbrake .. (don't ask how I know :D)

[tired wadi]

There's also a flashing light on the ship. When it's flashing yellow you have less then 8m, orange is like less then 4m, and red is less then 2m or something like that.

If the server crashes when I have a full cargo in space, am I going to lose everything I mined when it comes back on?

[fading escarp]

depends if you wake up on ship or station

and how much time progressed between the two

Last I crashed I had just poked my nose inside the hangar when I went boom

[tired wadi]

Rented a prospector, game is doing everything in it's power to ensure I don't earn the credits back. lol

[fading escarp]

explanation. I crashed while in space. I came back in the ship. Rushed back as it was only yellow (i thought)

[lime nova]

thanks for the help y'all! i got my first quant

[fading escarp]

good, best of luck getting it back

[lime nova]

would a faster quantum drive make sense for my prospector?

[tired wadi]

Yes good luck. That volatile cargo light doesn't seem to be on yet so you are probably in good shape

[lime nova]

it is yet to blink

[tired wadi]

Looks like I'm back on planet. Pretty sure the full cargo is lost now.

Somehow the ship ended up on a different planet all together.

[lime nova]

i made it :D

which refining method should i use?

[tired wadi]

I've been using the really long one that is low cost but high yeild

Starts with a D

Takes a whole day but you pay the least and get the best yeild

[lime nova]

Dinyx Solventation?

[tired wadi]

Yes that sounds right

[lime nova]

1 day six hours

[tired wadi]

Yep a day. lol

Go get more quantainium 😄

[lime nova]

the ferron exchange would be 10 hours and still has high yield

went with dinyx

[tired wadi]

yeah you just pay more and I'm too broke to do that. lol

Knew I saw this somewhere...

[vestal ravine]

Hello. My second biggest payout after Quant has been rocks with Agricium and Taranite on Aberdeen. ($91,423.00) from a Prospector full load.

[tired wadi]

Damn that is a good payout

[lime nova]

is the 91 million or 91 thousand?

[tired wadi]

91 thousand is what he's saying. That would def cover my rental fees. lol

[royal cairn]

now that the character reset is estimated to be tuesday-wednesday next week, you just need to be careful and choose the right one so you can haul before it, otherwise you'll have to cut them short

[lime nova]

is it a wipe or a char reset?

[cobalt rivet]

Reset

[lime nova]

good

[cobalt rivet]

Use ferron exchange

The cost difference is negligible but its twice as fast

[lime nova]

i'll do so in the future

[shell zodiac]

how much could I possibly make on the lower end with a rented cutlass black?

I have 100k to start with

for cargo*

[worthy scroll]

You'd make more money doing box missions.

Well, it depends. Looks like the Black could make about 24k a trip, and a trip is under 10m, if you don't waste any time. But you could also make 45k on a box mission, just by delivering three boxes.

Derp link incoming.

https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522Cutlass%2520Black%2522,%2522investment%2522:100000,%2522profitType%2522:%2522pure%2522,%2522locationNames%2522:%255B%2522Stanton%2520%253E%2520Crusader%2520%253E%2520Yela%2520%253E%2520Grim%2520HEX%2522,%2522Stanton%2520%253E%2520Crusader%2520%253E%2520Yela%2520%253E%2520Grim%2520HEX%2520%253E%2520Admin%2522%255D%257D

Now that's max profit for you, if you managed to fill with laranite. Which you won't. You'll actually make much less per run.

[shell zodiac]

Hmm.

Would renting out a ROC on a rented Cutlass be a better alternative then?

[worthy scroll]

I've never ROC mined, so I'm not versed in that.

[fallen atlas]

ROC and cutlass rented can be pretty profitable, but the big issue is server stability.

[serene quest]

I love how when a rock is ghosted like 99% of the time it's probably a Q

[fallen atlas]

Spend 1.5hrs getting everything loaded up, put on your Pembroke suit, fly to Aberdeen and 30k 20 minutes in to roc mining.

[lost crypt]

hello folks! i have a quick question, Am I missing something but i can never find the commodities that are listed in the journal

for example im at TDD on orison and it's supposed to have plasma fuel, but i can only see crap and waste

[versed plinth]

I think isn't available yet. I haven't seen it anywhere as well. But I could be wrong, please correct me if so.

[lost crypt]

I've seen them in previous patches, but im not sure if it got moved or just bugged

[fallen atlas]

check out !tradetools for the currently available commodities.

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[fallen atlas]

and their locations

this of course can't tell you that it WILL be available at the time you go there, but that it will be there if available

[versed plinth]

Oh. I started playing with 3.17.1 so no clue what was there before that.

[lost crypt]

alright

[lost crypt]

tnx

[vestal ravine]

As a point of information I "hand collected" almost 8K of Dolivine gems on Lyria by carefully blasting two gem stones with the Prospector's laser. It is tricky to do as to much laser heat will disinigrate?? the gems. Bring a backpack for this option. Once in the pack or the ship's inventory they are pretty safe. This side hunt was the highlight of my evening from yesterday.

[ivory gust]

For future reference, rented Prospector probably not worth it since you can't mine Quant without gadgets or glitches

[cobalt rivet]

still better than ROC mining

[ivory gust]

Stampede does exactly what it says it does, and doesn't result in the charge level dropping when you use it.

https://youtu.be/n7ZqQ75VY9I

[cobalt rivet]

looks like it was dropping to me

granted you beat the green before it crossed over

[ivory gust]

It was dropping because the rock is too large for the laser to keep the power up. It did not drop any faster when stampede started.

[cobalt rivet]

take a look at the resistance of that rock, willing to bet if you didnt use the stampede it wouldnt have dropped at all

[ivory gust]

Nobody ever claimed that stampede prevented the charge from dropping, just that it doesn't accelerate the drop the way you claim

[ivory gust]

You'd lose that bet. A Lancet on its own can't hold the power level on a rock that large.

[cobalt rivet]

trying to crack a rock that is in like 7k, with the stampede itll drop like flies when I fart.

[ivory gust]

A 7k rock will always drop quickly regardless of stampede

[cobalt rivet]

stampede makes it drop quicker, optimum opens the green window bigger and doesnt lose stability which allows it to not drop (as quickly), also in the green you don't drop as fast as you would in the white

[ivory gust]

I literally just posted a video showing that stampede didn't make it drop any quicker, also:

in the green you don't drop as fast as you would in the white

Yes you do? That's not a thing

[cobalt rivet]

you shot the stampede right as you crossed into the green

you didnt even wait to see if the laser would stabelize

[ivory gust]

Yes, because I already know that you can't stabilize a 6k+ rock with a Lancet

The surge also took it to the bottom of the green so I didn't have time to fart around, it was going to fall out, so I hit the stampede to get it done

[cobalt rivet]

you didnt even let the laser do any work on its own (in the green), and claim the stampede doesnt make it drop faster

[tired wadi]

Yes found that out the hard way.

[ivory gust]

If the stampede made it drop quicker, given that I was right at the bottom of optimal, it would've fallen out of optimal immediately

[tired wadi]

Now I have to get some credits earned to buy one of my own.

[ivory gust]

Why do I need to "let the laser do work on its own"

[cobalt rivet]

next time time your surge and let it slam barely into the red and watch it go down 3/4, then slame the stampede and see if it decends at a greater rate

[ivory gust]

Why would I wait to start the stampede, that's dumb

You stampede as soon as you're in the green so you finish quickly

[cobalt rivet]

clearly but we're trying to see if the stampede makes it drop faster

[ivory gust]

The rest of us already know that it doesn't

[cobalt rivet]

..rightt..

[ivory gust]

You're the only one here who doesn't understand stampede

[cobalt rivet]

tell you what, crack a 7.5 k rock with a stampede and surge end it once and forall

[tired wadi]

No I don't understand what stampede is either

[ivory gust]

K

[cobalt rivet]

doesnt even matter how you execute it, as long as it cracks

[ivory gust]

Stampede module allows the "optimal" bar to fill up faster so the rock cracks more quickly

[cobalt rivet]

you trade some instability for faster optimum cut rate

[ivory gust]

A relatively tiny amount of instability

[cobalt rivet]

also I think they did something, cause I was able to find big rocks once in awhile, now they're like almost impossible to find

used to see an 8k rock here and there

now ill be lucky to find 7k

[royal cairn]

Stampede does not make it drop faster lmao

[cobalt rivet]

optimum better result for any rock/ chip size

[ivory gust]

Disagree, optimum only increases size 75%, stampede increases speed 125%

[lost crypt]

Has anyone been able to find the commodities that are listed in the journal in this patch?
It seems they were disabled after 3.17.

[ivory gust]

Check !tradetools

If an item does not appear in their archives, it does not exist

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[cobalt rivet]

at no cost to instability

might kill you if you fk up tho

[lost crypt]

I did and it's not there, just wondering if that stuff was removed because of the exploits

i remeber that audio visual equipement was bugged and people made a ton of money from it

[ivory gust]

Check again, it has a 10% instability penalty just like stampede

[ivory gust]

Stuff like AV equipment and fireworks was only there during the Invictus activities

[lost crypt]

strange that we still get the commodities update journal notification

and you can still see the tab in mobiglass

plasma fuel, etc

i dont thin AV and fireworks are there anymore

[cobalt rivet]

hm... just found a 7.6, 2% rock and cracked it with stampede, guess whatever shittiness was happening to me before was a fluke, YOU WIN THIS TIME mr.winters

until i find a rock that somehow proves otherwise

[cobalt rivet]

is there a way to check the count on a module you unequipped so you can decide whether to discard it

[rugged axle]

nope

[royal cairn]

When you are in the ship look up

Should show you the module with a (#)

[grave idol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVicH0dqkbE How do i get the ship and car i can see in this video

[rugged axle]

where are you supposed to see this tarian?

cant rent a phoenix, but yea. roc you can. and a cutty black will work

[ivory gust]

You can rent a phoenix at the luxury rental places

[grave idol]

sounds expensive

thanks

[grave idol]

is the prospector a good ship for mining? its 2 million lol

[glacial dagger]

It's the cheapest ship miner, so yes

[ivory gust]

TIL you probably want a Spectre QD on your Prospector, not a VK-00 https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/wyxpri/youre_making_a_mistake_buying_a_vk00/

[grave idol]

not sure waht it is

[quiet night]

The ships about 27k to rent and the roc is about 15k from any of the refinery stations I think.

[cobalt rivet]

prospector is a good ship. you will likely use it more than the mole

and the return is excellent

assuming you know what youre doing

[grave idol]

I saw u need transporter ship after u refined it? becasuse prospector can't transport it

[quiet night]

Cutty black rental can do that for you

[grave idol]

alright

[cobalt rivet]

load up on a bunch of workloads and when you feel you have too much, start renting a transport and do runs

110 SCU sold will get you enough to buy a cutty

[grave idol]

Can i know how much scu 1 rock contains?

[cobalt rivet]

you can math it

there are also websites that math for you

[grave idol]

okey ^^

[cobalt rivet]

[misty coyote]

I favour the lancer instead, as it holds more cargo

[ivory gust]

Depends on how much SCU of refined ore you have to transport

Assuming you're already at the refinery and haven't already rented the Freelancer or Andromeda, cutlass wins by default up to 92 SCU

since you can rent it at the refinery

[misty coyote]

I always favour the lancer... I have a problem with the Cutty just being too up on it's own utility.... Far too good at many things...

[grave idol]

maybe saving for mole is better? it has more cargo than prospector

[ivory gust]

MOLE is not designed to be run by a single player

[grave idol]

How do u control it with many ppl

[ivory gust]

It does have more cargo but cannot effectively scan in asteroids and you gave to move between the pilot's seat and one of the turrets

[ivory gust]

It has three mining turrets that people sit in

[grave idol]

oh isee

https://youtu.be/o-N99RSPhhA?t=83
What does it do 😄

[cobalt rivet]

I never pilot a mooe b4 but i heard you couod face it towards the rock and solo all the lasers

[ivory gust]

You can only run one laser at a time

[grave idol]

looked like that in the video i saw

[mild pumice]

These illegal deliveries aren't too bad when you tie a few together, 3 missions total 40k pickup 5 boxes from A, drop 2 and collect 3 at B and drop, drop 3 and collect 1 at C then drop the remaining three at D. Felt like a proper delivery driver lol

Yeah I know you can earn more other ways but I did pick up sone nice gear on the route including a rail gun

[sleek torrent]

Where is the best location for larinite?

[real ingot]

i feel ya. deliveries are alot of fun and the money aint that bad.

[sleek torrent]

I love deliveries

[vestal vector]

Has hotfix happened?

[worthy scroll]

It's not expected until mid next week.

[vestal vector]

Oh thought they said 'later this week' on Monday

[worthy scroll]

They probably did. It was pushed back.

[vestal vector]

Cool thanks

[fallow cedar]

The mineral pods for the MOLE dont work right?

[vestal ravine]

My collection bags for the prospector are not black but nothing there. Is that ok?

[vestal ravine]

To answer myself the laser cannot split any rocks or gems. Gotta bed log try repairs or blow up the ship. EDIT: I backspaced but it did not fix the bags. The ship is ruined. Does the hot fix repair ships to factory conditions?

[magic quarry]

then its to big for one ship

[sly pebble]

is amyone here looking for another player for their ship? im trying to make some money for a c2 but am bored from doing cargo runs all day and dont feel like doing combat

[ivory gust]

What do you mean? The MOLE works fine this patch

[fallow cedar]

I mean these

Mineral Pods: The Mole carries 24 collapsed mineral pods (12 SCU each) that can be dropped when full to be picked up by cargo haulers. At one time, The Mole can carry eight of these pods while they are full.

[magic quarry]

the mole working just fine for me

[vestal ravine]

Rose, that must be some future gameplay option. Never heard of such a thing for the Mole at this time.

[ivory gust]

Nope, not a thing, sadly. The only part of that that's true is that it has 96 SCU of storage (12x8)

[grave idol]

where is best starting place for mining/cargo?=

[misty coyote]

Cargo is a bust right now.

ROC mine Aberdeen
Prosp mine Lyria (Flavour to taste here) mining with a buddy means you open big Q rocks.
MOLE no idea..... I feel like you could get a crew and strip mine everything....

[lime nova]

do i have to rebuy my modules after i reclaim my prospector?

[magic quarry]

if your ship was blown up yes but if its stored no

[lime nova]

damnit

[magic quarry]

can i take the miner back out when i have my ore from the last run still refining ?

[glacial dagger]

Yup

Once you start the refining process, it takes the ore out of your ship

You can have quite a few refinary deals on the go at the same time

[magic quarry]

ohhhh so heres me wait time and a half for it to finish and i could done muliple run motherfucker

[stiff verge]

about to buy a prospector, want to mine quant, what modules should i buy wi it?

[magic quarry]

your better of with the mole better storage i find

[stiff verge]

i don hav the moneh to buy a mole

[magic quarry]

same thats why iv rented the prospector to get the mole

[stiff verge]

you cant mine quant wi a rented prospector

unless you use a module ot smthg

[magic quarry]

yeah you can been doing it all days

[stiff verge]

maybe i just suck

[magic quarry]

just give it time my guy your get there

[stiff verge]

: P

[vestal ravine]

The Nomad and Roc is a good combo.

I am looking for Mole partners to mine on Lyria. Just got the ship and solo is pretty tricky.

[glacial dagger]

#looking-for-session

[vestal ravine]

Thanks Ironhand!!

[misty coyote]

Lancet mining head and nothing more

[misty coyote]

I just don't think it's worth the time learning how to though..

[magic quarry]

il be down later on in couple hours

[turbid bobcat]

trying to mine some rocks, put mining laser on 100% but the bar isn't really going up, how do i change it?, im in optimal range too

[magic quarry]

means the rock it to big to be mined by 1 or the laser is not powerful for it

[cobalt rivet]

What are you mining and what mining head do you have

[turbid bobcat]

just rented a prospector, haven't changed anything and im mining a rock that is 40% quantainium

nvm got 30ked

thats probably why

[cobalt rivet]

Use gadgets from dumpers depot on area 18 , get the ones that decreases instability and ones that reduces resistance and go after rocks that are 4500 mass or smaller

Its not ideal to mine on a rental as rentals suck and they not upgradable

I have some on hand if you are at arc l1 ill hook you up

Im curious to see how well they work with rentals

[onyx crow]

The only way I know to check the count left on a module is to equip it, hop in the ship, pull out the mining arm, hold f and look up at the switches and you should see the module names and the # of which you have left of each module

[grave idol]

can you sneak up to someones ship and start salvaging their ship?

patch 3.18 so its next patch it will be live?

[misty coyote]

I can imagine that your laser stripper wouldn't penetrate shields

[grave idol]

so u better keep ship power on when u land

[misty coyote]

..... That's a good point....

I tend to only switch off the thrusters

[worthy scroll]

Now I know what name I'm putting on my Vulture.

Laser Stripper.

[misty coyote]

Gotta have some R&R right?

[ashen tide]

simple cargo mission would be fill mission giver shopping list and level for small, med, large ships. Payouts cover cost of cargo + 20% and drop interdictors npc into route to keep it spicy. We have these features CIG give us 1 cargo mission

[ashen tide]

u cannot hull strip with power / shields up maybe if parked no power or disabled

[grave idol]

why cant i extract some stones? nothing gets sucked up

[river moss]

ok I am struggling here... can a FLTR-XL go on a size 1 laser?

aka, do module suffixes have anything to do with laser sizes?

[worthy scroll]

It can go on a S1 laser.

[river moss]

thanks!

[royal cairn]

idk if you found it yet but this is where I look... right now I only have the stampede with 1 use left

[rugged axle]

Interesting. Mine doesn't do that...lol. it doesn't show the options when I F over it like that.

[ivory gust]

Bad advice

[royal cairn]

is your mining laser out

[rugged axle]

I'll have to recheck when I get home. I typically stay in mining mode

[royal cairn]

ok, I did notice it won't show up unless I have the mining mode on

[grave idol]

are people usually camping outside grim hex to kill people to clear their crimstat?

[north oyster]

In a ROC? When the collector doesn't work, completely power down the ROC. I some times get out and inspect one of the gems. Also, before you activate the collection, let the ROC complete the scan

[worthy scroll]

It's kinda like real life. Get out, kick the tires, get back and and see if it worked.

[vestal ravine]

Rule: I got real busy trying some ROC mining using the A2 which is a pretty neat combo. Mined 3 Aphorite stones went back up to look for the QT marker for the mining station 30 seconds later my ship explodes. Ahhhh the dark essence of Star Citizen! I do have all three stations on the Mole ready to roll just keep in touch or others for a time. Using voice channel on Discord great also. In the CST - USA and should be on tonight Sunday about 9 p.m.

[eager hedge]

Here to learn about Cargo or mining, DM me if you up for teaching a newb on the task.

I got a prospector for mining and a Cutlass Black for cargo

[warped nest]

best beginner hauling ship?

[calm egret]

hauling is tough, best thing you can rent is an andromeda. if you're buying c2 is the best option but it costs 5m. 2.1m could get a freelancer max, little bit more space than than andro

[misty coyote]

Lancer MAX, high SCU dnd ROC capable

[cobalt rivet]

C2 got that thicc shields tho

[rugged axle]

I'm not sure a 5mil in-game ship would be considered "beginner" though lol

Best way to roc mine is have a friend in a prospector. Let him fly ahead and break rocks, then the roc just lands and scoops 🙂

[misty coyote]

Beginner beginner would be Nomad or Cutty then..

If your not breaching 2mil?

[ivory gust]

RAFT at 1.8M maybe

[misty coyote]

I love the RAFT.... How did I not think....

[hollow sedge]

Just bought the Hull-A and I've got to say, it is already my favourite ship! Everything about it I love, the sounds, the cargo system, the interior.. I love it!

But one thing is bugging me, there are three highlighterble buttons on the dashboard that do nothing. These buttons are meant to spool the quantum drive, open the quantum drive screen and bring up the navigation screen. I've seen this on the Gladius, quantum drive buttons that don't do anything despite being highlightable.

Are these controls meant to be added in at a later date or are they just broken?

[rugged axle]

Raft/hull a probably the best "best" beginner cargo ships ATM.

Truth is unless your taking a couple hundred scu, your not gonna make much running cargo. Between capital to buy a ship, then the capital to buy the cargo. It's not a great entry game loop. Better off doing it after you do a different loop, and strictly for using up your time

[hollow sedge]

Yeah I know it isn't a great gameplay-loop when trying to make money, but I've tried all the main money-makers. And nothing comes close to the peace I feel when hauling cargo. I do it to relax, not to make money.

If I ever run low on cash, I'll just do a few bunker missions.

[rugged axle]

Ah, then yea. I would just save up doing other stuff and buy a c2.

Mining is my "get away" loop. Hit the halo and just float around looking for q types

[ivory gust]

Big downside of the RAFT is you can't carry vehicles, so might as well just save the extra 400k to get a Freelancer MAX for more space and more versatility

[hollow sedge]

Oh no

I've locked myself in the Hull-A's cabin

The unlock button now does nothing

I've got 50k worth of cargo and in the middle of space

[misty coyote]

Can you log out?

[hollow sedge]

Going to do that once I am near a station since this will spawn me inside it once I log back in

[misty coyote]

Bed log I meant

Be careful logging out at station

[hollow sedge]

I was locked inside the cabin so couldn't access bed

[misty coyote]

Might be best to get your ship impounded

[hollow sedge]

All good now, spawned back inside station bed

[misty coyote]

And the ship is back on the server you came from?

[hollow sedge]

Yep, but without cargo..

Or everything I stored inside it, so bits of my armour and weapons + food and med supplies

I think I'm going to log off now anyway

[rugged axle]

did you try unlocking through the F menu?

[fallow cedar]

mining is very chill if you do it out in space

[west tide]

if you wanna make any real money, lyria is the only place to mine

[vestal ravine]

Johnny: I've been to Lyria three sessions and not found any Quant better than 3% low mass. So I've been stopping for Dolivine and Aphorite to pad the meager profits. Will see what this latest refinery amount gets me on Monday. But each person's experience has different results. My opinion on 3 runs is "lousy."

[royal cairn]

I haven't mined lyria in a week or two because it's been so bad for me

the belt is way better lately, but JT has been glitching it this weekend rip

[vestal ravine]

Then I know another miner found two record breaker rocks. 8,000 plus mass at 49% Quant. On my second search I navigated to a rock from afar as I flew closer a white mist cloud was around the rock. It cleared out as I arrived. The scene was a 3K mass Quant stone with black lava like sand around it. I think it was freshly "born." Anyone seen this before??

[gaunt fiber]

strange, I’ve never seen anything like that before

[rugged axle]

I mean, I pulled 6mil out of the halo in 24 hours. So...what do you consider real money is the question

[vestal ravine]

For me if it's over 3 k I will be much happier. My latest problem are non existent collection bags on the Prospector. Hoping next week's hot fix repairs this problem. This all began with people saying to let Landing Services "impound" the ship so that Quant survives potential rough rough landings. I tried this. They ignored me so I had to hustle over to another pad for a legal landing. Ran out of time just before I stored the ship and my Quant was long gone. The next day I called out the Prospector it was all torn up. Claims and backspace did not fix it. In essence I am probably the worst miner on this discord channel but I enjoy my crazy experiences anyway.

[ivory gust]

So, you landed instead of impounding and it caused problems

You can tell in a few seconds if the hangar is going to trigger the impound or not, and try floating in front of a different one if it doesn't start the impound

You should've had plenty of time to try multiple hangars (I've never had to try more than two), I've never arrived back at station with less than 6 minutes left

[coarse gyro]

good surface mining planets for ships?

not for quant nec

[glacial dagger]

Lyria is normally pretty good. You can find good stuff on Daymar as well, and that's closer to CRU-L1 for that sweet +6% quant bonus

[coarse gyro]

i just went to lyria and then absentmindedly slammed into the surface 8)

[glacial dagger]

oof

[ivory gust]

Any of the micro tech moons have high Quant percentage if you don't like the scanning mini game to look for clusters

[glacial dagger]

Yh, but their a ways away from a decent quant refionary

[vestal ravine]

I only landed after the impounding didn't work out.

[glacial dagger]

Aaron Halo between CRU-L1 and ARC-l3 are good for quant, and are closer to CRU-L1 dfor that sweet quant bonus

[ivory gust]

K... I've never had impounding "not work out"

[vestal ravine]

I have this Mole ready for some Halo mining. Let me know over the next 20 m inutes from 9 p.m. Sunday night CST. Warning I may get you killed. lol

[hollow sedge]

ive been lasering this rock for a hot minute with a lancet. no progress. what am i doing wrong here?

[ivory gust]

Sometimes a hangar won't start the impound timer, but I just move to another hangar and it works

[vestal ravine]

I'll try that next time I tested it with a empty ship no problems.

[glacial dagger]

That mass is way too high for a Lancet, or any prospector laser for that matter

[hollow sedge]

dang

[ivory gust]

Mass too high, can't do rocks that large without modules

[hollow sedge]

whats the max mass

[ivory gust]

5700-ish

Or just get surge and stampede modules and you can do anything

[hollow sedge]

i do

i have surge opti and stampede mods on it

[ivory gust]

So use them

You have to activate them

Surge to get into the green zone (will need to use twice), then stampede and opti to finish it

[glacial dagger]

Those are limited use ones as well, so once activated, work quickly

[marble crater]

not sure I would recommend someones first attempt at mining to be a double surge + stampeded 7.1T Q rock. might be an idea to find a smaller rock first

[vestal ravine]

Don't let that rock go I Am. You need help?

[glacial dagger]

Or better yet go into the Halo like I mentioned earlier

[ivory gust]

Too many unscannables in the halo, too frustrating for new miners imo

[glacial dagger]

I pulled nearly 28SCU of raw quant out of there after about 6 mins of searching

Get some scouts and it will go even quicker 😄

[vestal ravine]

I have a cool new map for the Halo from Cru l1...

[glacial dagger]

Do share?

[vestal ravine]

Let me look into it if he has a website. It's on a competitors discord channel.

[sleek torrent]

We need to beable to mine ice. So I can pretend to be the Canterbury

[vestal ravine]

The maps are from the Aaron Halo Mining Corp. By Skeeto. Skeeto and a friend were the first to map the Belts.

[worthy scroll]

I wouldn't be surprised if we get that later.

Imagine if we get a new class of ships, ice haulers.

[sleek torrent]

I’d love it

With missions too

Be nice if they added some mining missions, like go here, mine this amount and bring it to the refinery. Get paid but maybe not as much as you’d get paid for refining it and then selling it. Cut your time down to just mining and taking it to the refinery. Don’t get me wrong, I actually like the whole process of waiting for it to be refined so I can haul it and get my money. But would also be cool to have the option to have the middle man and just take a cut.

[worthy scroll]

I fully expect we'll get actual missions for every gameplay loop eventually.

[sleek torrent]

Ofcourse, and I don’t think it is needed right now. I’d rather have some other mission types. I’d really like some transport missions so I can put my 400i to good use instead of running deliveries and using it for my refined ore sales. Right now it’s just a luxury hauler

Maybe some ceo executive needs to go from micro tech to area 18

[worthy scroll]

Personnel transport missions were talked about what, like a year ago? I kind of remember they were supposed to have been introduced, but then weren't.

[cobalt rivet]

someone quikmafs, whats 7000 cSCU of quant worth

[sleek torrent]

A shit ton

1000 is like 100k or something like that

[vestal ravine]

Mole question: Flying solo going to the bridge from center turret when I activate the mfd's the ship drops out of VTOL mode and falls to the ground. What is the right keypress to quickly regain control of the K key and back away from the Moon?

[sleek torrent]

I’ve only had that issue when I power off my mining laser. It seems to power the whole ship down. So I just leave the laser on when I’m switching back to the cockpit. Not sure if that’s what your doing or not

[ivory gust]

What exactly are you doing to "activate the MFDs"? The MFDs should just turn on automatically when you sit back in the seat if you left the ship running...

[dapper mesa]

Anybody have any mining groups they're a part of? Bought a mole, but can never find enough people to properly crew and have scouts to make it worthwhile

[serene quest]

@dapper mesacheck in with @thin escarp and Lost Corp, we do (though i'm never there lol) mining groups all the time.

[thin escarp]

[serene quest]

I really think CIG needs to give a serious look at mining

[grave idol]

i cant login

[serene quest]

I was taking a look at Tradein.space and the percentages of all rare ore and minerals (Agricium and higher) are INSANELY low compared to quant. Not only are their chances of appearing in a particular deposit a lot lower but the density is far lower as well. It's kind of ridiculous.

[ivory gust]

It'll get rebalanced in a few years probably

[misty coyote]

With the Cargo refactor, this profession will get another look, so balancing the hauling market will make sense.... With that, ores and minerals will fall into it..... I have a feeling it will be sooner than a few years.

[toxic citrus]

Most likely will be with 3.18

It would only make sense to already adjust that profession's aspects closer to its final stage at the same time

[spice bane]

I have mining puestion😭

I heard that an ore called Quantanium is good for making money, but I am not sure if I should dig alone at the Prospector or in a group of three at the MOLE. Which is the most efficient in terms of time? (If possible, please also give me some recommendations on where to dig).

[toxic citrus]

Solo in a prospector

Sure you are more vulnerable to attackers and such, but you will get the money for yourself always

[misty coyote]

Is it worth strip mining in the MOLE? Just taking down rock after rock without worrying too much about content?

[marble crater]

if you can find enough Laranite/Agricium/Borase it's not terrible ($around $250K+) but if you're filling it with something real low like Diamonds, it would only net you around $55K. depends what you want out of the session

I used to half fill it with Laranite etc then mine 1 Quant rock when I tried solo Halo Mole mining ages ago. wasn't bad

[misty coyote]

This was going to be a group job, many runs and jsut fill it fast

[snow widget]

Is the default mining lazer on the prospecter good enough or should i swap it for something else?

[serene quest]

Just as the Prossy you're going to be leaving after ever rock. Mole mining is more money:time if done in a team of 2. If you complete in 3 (or more) you start to lose money over time, due to the split (although you can always decide the take). This can change if you're using a scout, lowering the time between searching for rocks. Then the Mole becomes incredibly efficient. Even at 3+.

[serene quest]

Lancet is your go-to mining head

[vestal ravine]

The SC Trade Tools site profile for Quantinium lists the moons of Microtech as having the highest density. So I am heading in that direction for the short term.

[north oyster]

Like KYPBJ mentioned, the Lancet is meta at this time. You can get by with stock everything else on the Prospector. After that you will want to update your Quantum drive. I prefer the Atlas because of great balance between speed and fuel.

[north oyster]

the weather is terrible there

Lyria is the best Quantaiuim spot in Stanton atm (besides Halo)

[vestal ravine]

It's worth a shot. My Mole keeps falling out of the sky anyway.

[north oyster]

Are you switching to VTOL mode or landing?

[vestal ravine]

This morning after I left the center station (solo Mole) and activated the enter seat pick in the Bridge the ship fell to the ground. Even if I get the Power On command it bumps the VTOL setting off and gravity takes the ship down. Does anyone else have this problem? Is using VTOL 0% wrong to maintain a hover mode? I am not a flight engineer maybe this is a bug.

[north oyster]

that should be an IC ticket then. Maybe try to land in a decent location near the deposit and crack it from there

I can't imagine using "Y" to get out of the seat would change the engine status of the ship

that's broken imo

[vestal ravine]

No it's getting back in the seat or interacting with Bridge Commands. The mining part is stable. I just make sure there are no big rocks under the ship.

[north oyster]

That's what I mean (sorry for not being clear) ... interacting with the Cockpit seat should not change the status of the ship

that might be a bug that needs to be reported

[serene quest]

are you in coupled mode?

if you're decoupled gravity will take over

[raw shell]

twice now, I've spontaneously died in a ROC with no idea how. It wasn't environment

in once instance, I didn't even have the mining laser on

[north oyster]

what planet? If on Aberdeen, do you have the Pembroke armor on?

Might want to check the Issue Council and see if there is a trend here

[raw shell]

one instance was aberdeen, I did have pembrook on. This instance just now was daymar. I was mining some aphorite then suddenly dead

[north oyster]

odd, so no explosion, etc?

[raw shell]

nope no boom or anything, just died and the laser was still on

I'll check the issues council, was just curious if anyone heard of that here

[north oyster]

I don't see any IC related to your experience, it could be a "new" find.

[raw shell]

strange, I'll mark it up as really bad luck but if anyone else experiences it at least it's posted here

wish that patch would drop so I can get back in my mole

[rugged axle]

@vestal ravine are you turning power off to the turret? Cause like...that turns power off to the whole ship for some reason

[ivory gust]

Pembroke helmet as well? The only times I've died in a ROC have been environmental (heat or forgot a helmet) or when I forgot to drink

How soon after driving out of the ship did it happen?
30 seconds (ish): you forgot your helmet
10-15 minutes (ish): overheated

[ivory gust]

You shouldn't need to give the power on command when sitting back down, power should still be on.

Exactly what keys are you hitting (or buttons are you pushing in cockpit) :
-Before getting out of pilot seat
-After getting in mining laser
-Before getting out of mining laser
-After getting into pilot seat

[rugged axle]

I'm betting he's turning power off in the laser. Which affects the whole ship. Hence why he gets "power on" once he makes it back to bridge.
Hold Y to leave turret while leaving power on

[grave idol]

How do i add my mining laser to my ship?

[ivory gust]

F1 for mobiglass, Loadout Manager along the bottom

Ship must be stored at current location and laser must be there as well

[jovial matrix]

Have the mining laser in a station/city inventory, store the ship, and open your mobiglass. Click the second app from the left (looks like a ship) and then select your ship from the drop down menu in the top right. You can then customize from there

[grave idol]

it cant find it

[ivory gust]

You probably bought the wrong laser, MH1 is for Prospector, MH2 is for MOLE

[grave idol]

i can see the parts in nixnax but not in vehical manager

oh okey

i bought helix II Mining Laser

[ivory gust]

You need the I for the Prospector

II is for MOLE

[grave idol]

alright, can i sell it or keep it for when i upgrade

[ivory gust]

Not sure if saleable

[rugged axle]

Your gonna want a lancet instead of the helix as well. Unless your not doing quant

[cobalt rivet]

You can sell but you wont get back as much as you spent on it

[grave idol]

okey its working now, i put 3 surge moduls on too

ill save it then

[ivory gust]

Unless you're just using the surges to save time on small rocks, you probably want to replace one of them with a Stampede-- most rocks that you need the surge for, you'd also need stampede in order to finish the optimal before the power falls out

But yeah, Helix won't work for Quant

[serene quest]

can the mule fit a 1 or 2 scu box?

[rugged axle]

Last I heard, it fits 1 2scu, until the forks are implemented then it'll hold 2

Don't take my word on it though. Don't personally have one

[serene quest]

k thanks

[raw shell]

Definitely had the helmet and the survival time was over an hour (on Aberdeen) For Daymar, It was the first rock out of the ship so probably more than 30 seconds but I did have all of my armor on. I didn't take notice of a survival counter but that's not a concern on Daymar is it?
I literally started heating up an aphorite rock. Probably 20 seconds in then I'm dead with the blurry vision and "time to expire' timer on.

both times, I was still in the ROC and it was intact. Was able to fly back and recover it.

[cobalt rivet]

found the holy grail

cluster with one rock that is 8 k and 45%

[jovial matrix]

30k inbound

[raw shell]

breaking that solo?

[cobalt rivet]

I most def broke it and broke my ship in the processs

I rode that redline too hard

even tho it cracked in the green it was still 25% overheated

cant even go to inspect it cause I dont have space suit on

[worthy scroll]

You should put a space suit on.

[raw shell]

dahm, yep been there done that. Many times. Those 8ks are very hard solo

[ivory gust]

Super weird then, would need to sew a video probably

Daymar does have a limit if you're just in a flight suit but it's pretty generous. With that happening so quickly after getting out of the ship, it sounds like the game didn't think you had a helmet on, maybe desync of some kind? What kind of helmet did you have for the Daymar one? Normally if you walk outside without a helmet there's choking noises, but I've noilticed they're really hard to hear when driving the roc out of your ship

[raw shell]

yes I know that sound all too well :o) I had on bunker looted medium armor, full set

[ivory gust]

Maybe the game killed you for mining aphorite since it's not worth it compared to hadanite

[ivory gust]

Not all medium helmets are actually "sealed", some of them are open and you'll suffocate if you go out

[raw shell]

I don't know if it was my imagination, but it almost looked like something broke off of the rock I was lasering and hit me... I've never heard of that happening though.

[ivory gust]

If you can remember exactly which, we could figure that out

[raw shell]

oh nah It was one of those random 9tails armor pieces. I have tons of it hoarded. I had already finished harvesting a patch of like 8 hadanite rocks before then though, so I know the armor worked

[ivory gust]

Obvious answer is that there was a sniper on the ridge. Or the game killed you for mining aphorite instead of hadanite

[raw shell]

lol, I'm figuring on the latter

[ivory gust]

This is why the Carrack is the best roc mining ship

[raw shell]

for the res bed?

[ivory gust]

Died while mining? Nbd, you res right there

Yep

Also if you have a friend it can carry a scout ship

[raw shell]

good point.. they're so freaking huge though.

[ivory gust]

Don't even land, just hover it and mine from the ramp

[raw shell]

you can actually do that?

[ivory gust]

I've heard yes, haven't tried but may give it a shot tonight

[raw shell]

The carrack is the only ship with a res bed now right?

[ivory gust]

890J has one but is even huge-er

[raw shell]

ah ok. Yeah that thing is a monster

[ivory gust]

Carrack is just awesome though, I might have to pledge one come November

[raw shell]

why november? Do they go on sale then or just can't buy them now?

I don't get the RSI website at all. I never never find how much ships cost, if they are for sale, or how to buy them.

one would think they'd make it as easy as humanly possible to sell their pixels over and over for ridiculous amounts of money

[ivory gust]

Only way to buy it currently is in the stupid $1100 exploration pack, in November during IAE you'll be able to get it specifically

They use FOMO to get more sales by making many ships not always available

[raw shell]

holy retirement fund... how of curiosity, why not just buy in-game?

you could grind the 20mil in a couple weeks

[ivory gust]

Because if you buy it in game, you lose it every time there's a wipe

[raw shell]

yeah, I guess that is a lot of time investment to loose to a wipe

[ivory gust]

And even at a very good consistent 500k/hr, 26.5M would take 53 hours, which for a Carrack standalone $600 is like "earning" only $11/hr

And that's even if you pay full price, not accounting for steep discounts from stacking warbond CCUs

And since there's at least 3-4 wipes left before release...

[worthy scroll]

Currently you can, but we make absurd money right now. This kind of cash flow won't be sustainable for the released game.

[worthy scroll]

This doesn't tell you the how or when, but it'll tell you what is and isn't always available, and the prices.

https://starcitizen.tools/List_of_pledge_vehicles

[ivory gust]

I like using https://uexcorp.space/ships , nice concise list

[worthy scroll]

Nice, that's a new one for me. Dookie on mobile though. I'll check it more later.

[ivory gust]

Yeah, need to rotate phone to landscape to see all the options

The Carrack to me feels more like the "Hero" ship you see in sci-fi shows than pretty much any other ship currently in game...think the Serenity from Firefly, the Rocinante from The Expanse, any of the ships from Star Trek...

[cobalt rivet]

1.8 k mass of pure quant

[worthy scroll]

I did, still cuts some off, but definitely more usable.

[worthy scroll]

cough Reclaimer.

That's my hero ship. 😁

[ivory gust]

Haven't actually had a chance to tour one yet, I missed Aegis day at ILW

...not that there was on display then, apparently

[worthy scroll]

An org-mate has one so I finally got to poke around in it recently. It's been on my want list for a while.

[worthy scroll]

I'm... Not sure it would fit in the expo. Maybe?

[ivory gust]

I think probably not, yeah. 30m longer than the Carrack and it's wider as well--although I also missed the Anvil day so I didn't see how tight a fit the Carrack would be

Could maybe have fit in the main hall but that would've been pretty much the only thing there

[rugged axle]

Was plenty of space for the carrack during ILW. Even had like 6-8 ships spread out around it. Was kind of insane when you think about it

[grave idol]

will u get pledge ship with the game you bought before when it realses?

[ivory gust]

Yes

[grave idol]

as i thought

Whats the secret this guy is doing to get 20 million, and what ship is that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc8LEG9jDFM

[ivory gust]

Doesn't look like any secret, he just did cargo running?

[grave idol]

alright

[worthy scroll]

Yes. Any pledge items you have are always yours.

[grave idol]

@worthy scroll is it tradable or sellable?

[worthy scroll]

That's grey market stuff and I don't think it's allowed here. Except gifting. Any pledge not purchased with store credit can be gifted.

[grave idol]

So you can sell weapons and armors and stuff but not ships

[worthy scroll]

They've never come out and said for sure that ships will ever be sellable (to my knowledge). They'd have to come up with something creative for it, because a person could just sell a pledge ship and then get it back again. Rinse and repeat.

[grave idol]

okey, i meant like an auction house or similar

[raw shell]

Thanks! Great site!

[fast glacier]

what's the best route for andromeda?

[ivory gust]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[fast glacier]

hhmmm

[fast glacier]

man

I was on Orison and my ship lost torque and I spiraled to death

unplayable

[civic portal]

did you have any damage

[storm dove]

Not sure if this is mining related but.... I looted all Dolivine from npc's in a cave mission but now I can't sell it, no matter if it's in local/vehicle/personal inventory. Tried them all. About 2 days ago it all worked just fine.

Any idea how to work that?

[versed plinth]

It doesn't show up on the trade terminals?

[gilded bluff]

Is mole mining functional now or still bugged?

[raw shell]

works great

Note there is supposed to be a hotfix this week that will wipe out refinery jobs

[storm dove]

It shows, it shows in every inventory and it shows those also in Admin terminal, but trade doesn't go through... No idea why...

[gilded bluff]

Thanks mate!

[glacial dagger]

Might be worth hopping servers then

[hollow sedge]

Um just a quick question guys does doing the trade routes with long wait times worth it in the end or should I stick to laranite and agricium trade routes

[glacial dagger]

Laranite./Agricium are both ok runs if you dont have that big a ship, but if you start to deal with ships with larger inventories like a Cat or C2, then I would reccomend looking for a better run where you can actually fill your hold like Titanium

[worn dock]

Do the Hull series have STOL?

[glacial dagger]

STOL?

Do you mean VTOL?

[worn dock]

yes, for some reason STOL was stuck in my mind

(I do know the difference!)

[glacial dagger]

I think it does?

I'm not 100% sure

[worn dock]

hmm then I need to have another input for spindle deployment

[cobalt rivet]

is trading worth the time spent doing it?

also whats a good trading route and how much can I buy at one time

[glacial dagger]

Depends on what your moving and with what ship

[cobalt rivet]

got a C2

[glacial dagger]

If your moving vice with an avenger titan, then yes

[cobalt rivet]

which is most profitable

[glacial dagger]

If your moving Titanium with a C2, then yes

If your trying to move vice with a C2, then nope

[cobalt rivet]

can I fill the CS?

[glacial dagger]

Same with an avenger titan with Titanium

[glacial dagger]

A C2 can indeed be filled with Titanium

[cobalt rivet]

break it down for me

[glacial dagger]

Unless your asking about doing cargo with a Crime Stat, then i think only vice?

[cobalt rivet]

nah I do legal

[glacial dagger]

I dont think the law abiding places will do trade with you if you can a CS

[cobalt rivet]

so where do I go to buy titanium and where do I go to sell

[glacial dagger]

Then again, I haven't tried to run cargo with a CS incase someone gets my bounty

[glacial dagger]

Look it up on something like SC Trade Tolols

[cobalt rivet]

hm ok

ok this site is not really noob friendly

[north oyster]

Trade Tools can be confusing but worth the effort