industrial-professions

[umbral rune]

or a ship sized tractor beam attachment to move these rocks

[strange cove]

the orion, salvaging, repairing being relevant are 3 things im looking foward too

other than the game actually functioning that is

[ivory gust]

Fixing bugs doesn't make money. Making pictures of new ships and showing them off does make them money.

Their priorities are absolutely intentional

[umbral rune]

that's why the game has been in alpha for a decade and is still buggy af

[mild pumice]

Yay 3rd try I got some Quant cooking 🔥

[umbral rune]

in the refinery?

[mild pumice]

Yep cooking up nicely

First lot I lost to a pirate, second lot to a 30k but 3rd time lucky lol

[umbral rune]

player or ai pirate?

[mild pumice]

Player was actually the first time I been interdicted by a player

[umbral rune]

also if you 30k it should store the ship immediately, and if you spawn at your refining station you should be able to retrieve and store immediately

huh, didn't know players COULD interdict

[mild pumice]

I had my chat off so didn't see their demand

[umbral rune]

lol

[mild pumice]

I had broken the rocks but not started collecting unfortunately

[umbral rune]

honestly if i get interdicted I just full speed away until I can warp again

works ez on ai, haven't had a player

[mild pumice]

I tried to run but they were faster

[umbral rune]

if it was a player I'd probably just try to bed-log asap

[ivory gust]

Mantis currently the only ship that can interdict, and you won't be able to get away from it

[mild pumice]

I turned to fight lmao

[umbral rune]

good to know

[ivory gust]

Unless you bedlog, yeah

[umbral rune]

hope any pirate players' parents are divorced and it wasn't amicable

[mild pumice]

I'd rather die than log tbh

[umbral rune]

why

[mild pumice]

Because it's a lame move

[umbral rune]

if you bed log on the prospector your ship logs out with you

lol

[ivory gust]

Given that pirate players currently risk nothing, pirating is the lame move imo

[umbral rune]

it's a lame move to interdict people and try to extort money out of them or boom

it's hilarious to just log on those people

[mild pumice]

Two lames don't make a cool lol

[umbral rune]

I don't care

I want my quant

that interruption can fuck off

[ivory gust]

No, but I'm not going to reward someone being a sociopath and taking advantage of missing mechanics

[umbral rune]

if it's between being lame, going boom, or paying about a third to the full amount I'd make off the cargo, being lame it is

I could have spent anywhere from 10m to an hour and a half looking for a rock

[mild pumice]

It's just not in my nature to do it but as long as bed logging isn't considered a combat log (like a menu log in ED) go for it. I kinda like that there's some risk otherwise it's just go point A do shit, go point B, sell shit

[umbral rune]

"it's lame" not gonna stop me from keeping it

you're only on your first refinement load, you'll probably change your priorities

there're enough issues in the game to cause cargo loss

[ivory gust]

There's already enough risk due to all the bugs, don't need "pirates" adding more

[umbral rune]

red light bug for example

[mild pumice]

Maybes when credits mean something but for now I'm just playing for the experience don't care if I make 1cr in a session or 1 million

[umbral rune]

you don't have something you're working to?

do you own or rent your prosp?

you actually got quant so i assume own

[mild pumice]

Yeah I got it with my 29 million bonus lol. I have a lot of ships so just playing for the fun now

Maybes after the next wipe I'll need to be more frugal

Although next patch I should get a loaner for my Vulture I think (whilst 3.18 is in PTU)

[ivory gust]

I wonder how thoroughly broken salvage will be when it comes out

[mild pumice]

Out of 1 to 10 (1 being most broken) -5

[ancient pilot]

Any mining gods on i can PM? Cant figure out why I cant mine a rock in my prospector XD

[ivory gust]

What laser are you using, what's the mass and composition of the rock, and what's the issue you're having

[ancient pilot]

I was told to buy all the stuff here. But first time so I dunno what I can and cant do

[ivory gust]

7320 is way too high mass for a single lancet without surge/stampede modules or gadgets

You need a mass of ~5200 or less to mine without those

[ancient pilot]

Ah right okay. Thats what I wasnt told XD

I was like 19% bingo haha

But thanks! Ill look for smaller rocks lol

[ivory gust]

The common loadout is 2x Surge and 1x Stampede, or 1x Surge 1x Stampede 1x Optimum

[ancient pilot]

I have copied what you said and saved it in my notes

My friend said, buy these and you will be fine lol.

Didnt explain the mass part

[ivory gust]

He might have been talking about asteroid belt mining--in the belt there are no rocks over 5200 mass so you don't have to worry about it

[tight latch]

i can't wait for the cargo refactor update is there a dtae on that it doesn't say anything on the raodmap

[ivory gust]

They don't give actual dates until we're almost on top of them. It will come when they're ready to give it to us.

[tight latch]

oh ok do they regularly update the roadmap

[gaunt fiber]

Anyone want to help me break a rock? Mass: 5702, QT: 47.86%

[royal cairn]

you still need help yentra?

[gaunt fiber]

@royal cairn I was just departing, but if you’re available, I can circle back.

[royal cairn]

sure

I assume you are yentra on sc as well?

[gaunt fiber]

yup

[royal cairn]

sent a FR

[mild pumice]

Took a while but I break a 5700 with just a lancett

so pretty 😄

[full mantle]

Oh nice\

[vestal vector]

nice!

[ember sinew]

How can a make about 5 mil fast

[ivory gust]

Define "fast"

The fastest normal methods of making money are 400-500k aUEC/hr, so you're still looking at 10 hours minimum to get that

[ember sinew]

I am still in the learning process got the first ship and I know nothing of what I am doing

[mild pumice]

Enjoy your first ship, this isn't Elite Dangerous where you get end game ships in 10 minutes

[ivory gust]

Given that, 5mil is a long way off for you. I recommend looking up some basic tutorials on youtube.

If you want to get into the good long term money makers, pick which one you like best:

• Ship combat (ship bounty missions)
• FPS combat (bunker/cave missions)
• Mining
• Space trucking (not really as viable to work your way up with this one)

In addition, there's a couple types of missions that are solid for newer players to ramp up but don't make great money "late game":

• Delivery missions
• Illegal monitor missions (although I've heard that some people are finding that these are bugged)

[ivory gust]

What's your starter ship? Most of the starters can work with the early ship or FPS combat missions, or delivery missions

Fundamentally it's "what do you want to do" or "what do you enjoy doing."

There will be another wipe in 3-5 months, so just playing for the sake of grinding money isn't a good plan right now.

[coral crypt]

Regardless of wipe, you should always play to have fun, not doing some boring grind that will burn you out

[vestal vector]

If i equip 3 x focus III on my lancet, will i be able to break bigger rocks than just a lancet with no upgrades/modules?

(just trying to understand how resistance works)

[coral crypt]

Pretty sure they do stack

[vestal vector]

playing around with this

[vestal vector]

but do focus modules help the lancet break bigger rocks?

[ivory gust]

yes, with reduced resistance you'd theoretically be able to get bigger stuff I think, but I don't think it would let you break something 30% bigger. Worth a shot imo

I don't think anyone's ever figured out the exact math behind laser power, resistance, and how much the rock heats up

[vestal vector]

this sounds like a challenge 😏

[vestal vector]

thanks appreciate it

[ember sinew]

How does a salvage contract work

[ivory gust]

If it's not bugged, you go to the location, retrieve the designated packages, and then deliver them elsewhere.

If it is bugged (happens often), you go to the location, discover there are only 3 packages when there are supposed to be 4, and then you can't complete the mission

[ember sinew]

@ivory gust if bugged what do I do

[ivory gust]

Abandon the mission and move on with your life

Try other types of missions...just don't go do the exact same mission type 5 times in a row if it's always bugged like I've seen some people do

[mild pumice]

getting the hang of this 🙂

[vestal vector]

lfg

thats a juicy rock

[ember sinew]

Ship I have is the rsi aurora mr

[ivory gust]

If you're doing space combat missions, you'll want to put two more guns on it since it comes with two empty slots by default, but yes, aurora can do all of the beginner levels of space combat/fps combat/delivery

[ember sinew]

I am doing a missing person mission

[mild pumice]

that's what I got so far, was it worth refining the other bits or just bin them next time?

[ivory gust]

Those work sometimes, and sometimes not.

[ivory gust]

Depends on what ship you're using to haul. The other stuff doesn't make much money, so if you're space-limited on the hauler it might be better to just discard them so you can get more loads of quant

[mild pumice]

I've got my Raft here but I have an MSR or even a C2 I'd I need it

@ivory gust cheers 👍

[coral crypt]

RAFT GANG

[mild pumice]

I'll come back Saturday for the refined product, should be around 350k nice

[hollow sedge]

What masses can the prospector mine?

[ivory gust]

With a Lancet and no modules, up to ~5700. With surge and stampede (and maybe optimum modules), up to ~8000 or more

[hollow sedge]

Lancet is the default one right?

[ivory gust]

No, default one is Arbor. Need to grab the Lancet and switch it out. Lancet is the one you want if you're mining Quantanium

[hollow sedge]

I'm not mining quantanium

Bexalite

So how large can the default one mine?

[ivory gust]

Nobody knows, nobody uses it because it's trash

Well, someone probably knows, but a lot less time has been spent thinking about mining things that aren't quant, or mining with the stock laser, than otherwise.

[hollow sedge]

If I try to mine a rock that's too big what happens? Will it just never break?

[royal cairn]

the charge won't increase

[worthy scroll]

Or it'll go up a little bit and tease you, but you'll still never break it.

[cobalt rivet]

@ivory gust u notice the stampede is actually detrimental to mining with lancette now? everytime i hit the stampede it drops even faster, EVEN when im in the green

I just use the surge and optimum now

[ivory gust]

I haven't noticed that, no. It still seems to go down just as quickly as without, the stampede just lets it finish faster.

I haven't used them much, though--I've only recently switched to Lyria from the belt

I've also heard that single surge, stampede, optimum works, although I can see that potentially being a problem if the rock is too large and cools off too much before the surge comes off cooldown

[obsidian shard]

@ivory gust Looking to mine Quant in a prospector, any tips?

[ivory gust]

Check pins in this channel

[obsidian shard]

So far i'm going with:

Stampede
Optimum
Surge
Lancet H1

will check

[ivory gust]

Sounds good

[obsidian shard]

Also is there any way to refill these actives or should I not try?

[ivory gust]

No way to refill, just replace

[obsidian shard]

In the black or in a station only?

[ivory gust]

Only in a station since you need to do it in the load out manager

So ship has to be stored

[obsidian shard]

I can see that being a pain in the ass

Where do you recommend I prospect for quant?

[ivory gust]

You'll only use 1-2 charges of each per trip, you only need them for the first break on a large rock

[ivory gust]

Lyria, you can scan ping at 360 or 180, then ping each result at 2 to see if it's a cluster or a single. Clusters on Lyria are always quantanium

[obsidian shard]

What do you mean "ping each result at 2"?

[obsidian shard]

Should I replace the Optimum with Brandt?

[ivory gust]

https://youtu.be/Am25821xcdg quickly describes scanning on Lyria

There are more in depth guides you can look for as well if that one goes too fast

[ivory gust]

If you have trouble with instability you can, but it's not needed

[vestal vector]

thanks for this, cant wait to try it

[obsidian shard]

also... it always zooms me in while i'm in combat or mining, i hate it

how do i get rid of it?

[ivory gust]

Settings, options, pilot look ahead, zoom target. There's lots of settings there

[dapper mesa]

That feeling when you find the unicorn quant rock, 8224 50%... 30k before get to even finish breaking

[vestal vector]

🫂

[dapper mesa]

I alt-f4'ed so hard lmao

[ivory gust]

Ghost rocks again, floated next to them for two minutes, nothing. Ugh.

[umbral rune]

might just be me having good luck then idk

[hollow sedge]

What should I mine other than Quant with my prospector and where should I mine it?

I was gonna go for Bexalite on Magda but I'm 2nd guessing now

[ivory gust]

https://redmonstergaming.com/mining-cheat-sheets/

[worthy scroll]

That's the second most profitable thing.

And it doesn't blow you up.

[marble crater]

tricky to find a rock with high percentages when it's not Quant so you may have to break a bunch of rocks to try and fill up

[ivory gust]

TIL that the ROC-DS does 12/s pwr output, normal ROC is only 9/s

[real ingot]

man 40 minutes of scanning to finally find some quant and then game crashes right after i break it lol

[vestal ravine]

Found a 5700 mass rock at 47% Quant tonight.

[meager gorge]

Does anyone use any other head besides the lancet for quant mining?

[ivory gust]

There is one person who swears by the impact head with a Brandt consumable

[marble crater]

i've tried Helix but it felt pretty bad even with Brandt

[obsidian shard]

my quantanium splodey'd.... ugh

it only went like 7 minutes though lol. i had a 15 minute timer up and it was at red when the timer reached 10 minutes

i didn't crash into anything, although i used afterburn and QD a lot

[ivory gust]

Did you land?

[dapper mesa]

Impact can break larger rocks than lancet, but only prob is you have to use a brandt for every sub rock too

But you're also much more likely to be unable to break higher resistance rocks, and even small amount of red on average sized rocks can disable your ship

[drowsy zodiac]

Just got my first 100% quant load since the patch. Feels good

[snow badge]

just got me a decent haul for my first mining mission, but what is the best refinement for my buck? I dont mind waiting

[full mantle]

mate take your time and read the time vs cost vs delverables

[umbral rune]

I've heard helix is also nerfed more than the public stats

impact, yeah only one guy I can tell swears by it and boy do I disagree

I'd have to use a brandt or sabir to make it usable

impact with vaux 3 vaux 3 focus 3 sabir would be pretty badass though

maybe, it may also require a boremax

[snow badge]

Nothing wrong with being too sure, it's late midnight and don't got time to calculate the cost to yield rn, am gonna sleep

[umbral rune]

impact vaux3 vaux3 focus3 boremax sabir is a lot to slap on but it'd break anything smoothly

maybe 3 vaux3 because impact base is +10% instability

I'd consider trying that setup actually

[ivory gust]

Dinyx solventation is the cheapest and highest yield but takes a long time
Ferron Exchange gives the same yield for 2x the cost but in 1/3rd the time.

Those are the only two options worth looking at

[snow badge]

Alright thank you sir

[umbral rune]

what is your hauling ship?

you'll need to move from refinery to a ship's cargo and take it down to a planet to sell, if you intend to use anything over a drake Dinyx may be more worth it for you

[ivory gust]

I use Dinyx 90% of the time and only switch to using Ferron when I'm close to having enough jobs to fill my hauler so I'll be able to do it the next day instead of 2 days off

[umbral rune]

I just stick to dinyx alone, I'll make a trip whenever i get around to it

[obsidian shard]

@ivory gust you think the VK is good for a quant mining setup?

[ivory gust]

Assuming you're only going from like ARC L1 -> Lyria or the Belt, or CRU L1 -> Belt and back, yeah

You don't need the longer range of the slower drives

[obsidian shard]

plus doesn't the prozzy have a good bit of fuel in it?

[snow badge]

It has more than enough fuel for a few trips with VK00

[snow badge]

I have a Connie Taurus as my cargo

[ivory gust]

It has the normal 583 units of QT fuel that size 1 ships usually have. Enough for one belt round trip from ARC L1 or CRU L1, or 2-3 Lyria round trips

[umbral rune]

wait, how many module slots does an impact have? same as lancet?

[ivory gust]

Yep, has 3

[umbral rune]

mk

has anyone tried making an impact usable other than just brandting it?

considering if it's worth focusing on that

[ivory gust]

I mean, you need the Brandt at least to take care of the instability

[umbral rune]

I mean using even gadgets to make up for it

if I'm right, using 3 vaux3, a sabir, and a boremax will get it pretty much at the same level as a more powerful version of a lancet

[ivory gust]

but then you have to re-apply the sabir to every single chunk

[umbral rune]

yeah

yeah

just sucks there's no satisfactory way to get a power boost other than surge

[ivory gust]

absolutely agree

[umbral rune]

or rather

no satisfactory way at all

[ivory gust]

obvious answer IMO is a Mole with an Impact+Brandt+whatever in one laser for the first break, and Lancet for the rest

[umbral rune]

nah

at that point just slap one of the lancets on it at 0% and you have the buff from it

counters most of the impact downside

since you can leave mole lasers going and get out of the chair, right?

even so though, side, reverse, and down thrusters on the prospector are garbage

[ivory gust]

I thought they shut off when you get out of the seat

[umbral rune]

the mole thrusters are half as good as the prospectors

I've been told they stay on

[ivory gust]

oh interesting

[umbral rune]

any mole owners wanna confirm?

[ivory gust]

I'd been planning on getting the Retaliator with my next haul tomorrow to cheese ERTs but I might have to get a MOLE instead

[snow badge]

I forgot, the mole has a refinery inside right?

Haven't been in 1 a bit

[umbral rune]

no

[snow badge]

Sadge

[umbral rune]

that would be the unfinished capital ship called the uh...

the dead space ship

[snow badge]

Wait oh yea that other giant mining ship

[ivory gust]

The Expanse has a refinery as well

well, is a refinery

[snow badge]

The Orion

[umbral rune]

I asked in chat and had one person saying something about a glitch but also saying no about the mole

[ivory gust]

rip

[ivory gust]

retaliator it is

Have prospector, want mole because I sometimes mine with other people

Also prospector looks like crap, MOLE looks great

[marble crater]

Mole laser turns off when you leave the seat

[umbral rune]

fak

I had heard wrong then

[marble crater]

First thing I tried when I got one lol

[umbral rune]

see the current gadget meant to make it easier to break larger rocks is the boremax

but

that's not power

it's just resist

which a lancet ALREADY ANNIHILATES

and since gettign resist so much closer to 0 doesn't really increase max rock size, it's meh

yep, I can't think of a viable method to get lancet able to mine over 5.7 reliably without surge

so ~5.7 is the realistic cap then

sure you can surge stampede largers, but honestly that's more of a pain to micromanage and eyeball than I want to do

[cobalt rivet]

Surge is the easy part, preventing it from dropping is the hard part

[umbral rune]

yeah, eh

[marble crater]

yeah the timing is really tight for getting the Stampede off. gets easier the more you do it

[umbral rune]

I have issues landing surge just right (at the top of green)

[cobalt rivet]

Stampede is shit

[umbral rune]

I've even slapped optimum in with those two

but it still sucks

[cobalt rivet]

Launched it in the green and it dropped even faster

[umbral rune]

I'd rather just look away from anything too big, or ask a buddy to come over if there is one

and once it slips out of the green it will not come back up

[marble crater]

I aim to hit a bit of red with the 2nd surge then stampede the moment it falls into the top of the green

[ivory gust]

Stampede doesn't have any direct effect on how quickly it drops...the only negative is that it increases the instability, which can cause that

[cobalt rivet]

Not using the stanpede has more stability and less drop

[ivory gust]

But if the rock is big enough, without the stampede you won't be able to crack it since you'll fall out of the green too quickly

[cobalt rivet]

Stampede accelerates the drop

[ivory gust]

It increases instability which can accelerate the drop, but it does not directly accelerate the drop

[marble crater]

bit of rng kicks in with the instability yeah

could hold, could drop faster

[cobalt rivet]

I tested it with and without and the stampede offers no performance benefit, without the stampede i was able to hold it green long enough to burst

[marble crater]

I've gone back to mining with a buddy so enjoying the simplicity of 2 lasers

[umbral rune]

a stampede doesn't affect drop outside of instability

to do that it would need to reduce power or increase rock resistance, it does neither

[ivory gust]

In that case, yeah, that was a rock that didn't need stampede. There are rocks that do need the stampede. The performance benefit is that the green fills much more quickly.

For rocks 7000+ you probably need it

[cobalt rivet]

Nope it just accelerates the drop

[ivory gust]

...then you didn't use a Stampede

Stampede has a very clear effect on how quickly the green area fills

[cobalt rivet]

Pretty sure i did

[umbral rune]

uh no

[ivory gust]

None of those effects are "accelerates the drop"

[umbral rune]

what these items do is listed on them

[cobalt rivet]

Stampede worked like gem prior to wipe, i used it a ton, gave enough power to hold the laser in green , now it accelerates the drop

[umbral rune]

I think you've just been smacked around by rng

[ivory gust]

and i've used them multiple times since the wipe and it doesn't accelerate the drop, it makes the green area fill faster.

[cobalt rivet]

Last 6 mining going after 5k plus rocks id hit surge into green and them slap stampede and the drop would accelerate

[ivory gust]

Video please

[cobalt rivet]

Then i tried the same thing without and the laser performed better

I would if the game didnt shit on my fps

Like i know what its supposed to do, but im telling you it aint doing it. Everytime i hit stampede it accelerates the drop

[ivory gust]

Then you're doing something wrong or are affected by some unique bug, because none of the rest of us are seeing the same effect

And all of the rest of us are seeing it successfully make the green area fill faster

[cobalt rivet]

When was the last time you used stampede on a 6 k rock

[ivory gust]

Yesterday

I recommend unequipping the modules and re-equipping them...the only module that should accelerate the drop is the Rime module

[cobalt rivet]

What time zone are you active on

We go mining

[ivory gust]

PST, would normally be available nowish but currently doing other stuff

But really, I recommend un-equipping the Rime and putting a Stampede on instead 🤷

[cobalt rivet]

We go mining tomorrow

[signal jacinth]

From which location is the best jump point to get in the halo for qt mining?

[ivory gust]

https://cstone.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes

Pick your favorite

[full mantle]

nice

[upbeat stump]

Tryna sell my Cargo at Grim but it says this everytime

[umbral rune]

land on lyria, look for rocks, no dice in the first 5 minutes or so, see someone mentioning they have a 5.8 rock and was lookin for a buddy. Fly over and it ends up being a somewhat new miner on a rented prosp, there's a second rock

give him advice and explain how and why the arbor (default mining head) is no good for quant, help him crack it and let him fill up (it broke very well and he probly got a close to if not pure load)

get to teach someone stuff, and get my own load as well

[mild pumice]

That's how I was working with my friend begone in his rented prospector, I'd break the big rock and leave him the smol ones

[umbral rune]

yeah, he gave me the boost to break the big rock, and since I have a lancet I diced up the small stuff

and seriously it broke into like 3 100%s, two of which were over 1k

[mild pumice]

Nice

[umbral rune]

think he said he was on 1.9 m and close to buying a prosp, so that'll push him over the edge

also got him to join this place

[signal jacinth]

Thx mate 👍

[strange cove]

Where are good places to mine I've being going to the belt but it has seemed fairly dry

[ember sinew]

Can you lifeforms teach me the ways of mining

[cyan mountain]

at which distance can i find the band 5 between arcl3 and crul1?

[ember sinew]

How do I retract landing gear

[cyan mountain]

n

[arctic pumice]

What's the best mining vehicle for if I've just started?

With a ship and a ground vehicle

[vestal ravine]

I would say the Nomad ship and the one seater ROC gem miner. You will need a pricy Novikov or Pembroke suit. Hadanite gem stone is the highest paying stone to crack. But the whole process can be very time consuming so be ready for that. Lots of other details and options. Good luck.

[long linden]

When I purchase on my laptop, do I fully have to logout of game to receive my items?

[sleek torrent]

Yes

And have to wait a few minutes in my experience.

[long linden]

Thanks

[sleek torrent]

Np

[rugged axle]

Depending what you buy, you may have to go into your account on the website and...umm...allocate? I think is what they call it

[ivory gust]

Lyria

[ivory gust]

https://cstone.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes

[ivory gust]

You can rent the ROC and a Cutlass to carry it from any refinery station

[arctic pumice]

OK thank you I've just started so a bit confused

[cobalt rivet]

save you some heartache, 30ks happen alot and if you dont instantly offload your ores onto a ship and just keep mining and hoarding ores in the ROC, and the 30k happens

[cyan mountain]

as soon as i went there i found a 4600 mass 45% rock lmao

[zenith maple]

its like the server can smell the fear you get when your storage is full or you only need to turn in that one big payday quest

[marble crater]

Gave the Boremax a go today seemed pretty good. only found a 6.1T rock at 21% but managed to break it pretty easily. took ages to heat up without Surge but was more of a test run

[ivory gust]

If it already took ages at 6.1k, that suggests that the practical ceiling for a single Boremax isn't much higher than that, which means it's not really a practical alternative to the surge...rjght?

I mean, if you really hate surges it's a tool that can be used, I guess?

[marble crater]

sure felt like any bigger in mass & it would require some passive modules to get the heat to rise

took 4:30

[ivory gust]

And the passive modules don't have that big of an effect on resistance so it wouldn't make much difference anyway

[marble crater]

I haven't tried stacking gadgets yet will try 2 Boremax next trip out

My gadget didn't disappear this time but the rock piece it was attached to flipped over so couldn't get it anyway lol

[ivory gust]

I wouldn't expect as large of an increase (in terms of how much additional mass can be cracked) from the second as the first

[marble crater]

I did use Stampede to burn through the Green just wanted to test what it could heat up with 1 Boremax

[cobalt rivet]

surge and optimum, crack through some serious rocks

highest rock ive attempted solo was like 7.5k ish

crack that ho like I was in a bathroom stall of a truck stop

"c'mon daddy needs sum quant.." soft crack "uuuhhhhhh...."

[crimson oak]

aarons halo has been awful for me today, spent an hour finding nothing but 2% quant rocks absolutely everywhere

finally just gave up and filled half my prospector with a 20% rock

[umbral rune]

just got 30kd with a quant load of about 4.2

I have conflicted feelings about this

that's possibly the worst load of Q I've ever made, but hey it's not gonna be lost

[zenith maple]

yeah, the server crashes is the biggest "bug" I hope they manage to limit in the future

everything else is "fine" (its not, but compared)

[umbral rune]

honestly

I think 30ks are in as good spot as a bug/server crash can possibly be

you should lose nothing from them, it stores your ships, you get warped home

if I had to pick for either 30ks or elevator doors to be fixed, it'd be elevator doors

[zenith maple]

you dont want to kill yourself to get teleported to medbay so you can get to the main floor?

[ivory gust]

Unfortunately 30k protection doesn't work for ROC mining though

[umbral rune]

oh?

[ivory gust]

Only ships, the ROC itself doesn't get the protection apparently

[umbral rune]

h u h..

I don't have a roc so haven't experienced it

[ivory gust]

Also for quant in particular, since you break the rocks down fully before you start extracting, a 30k when you've just spent 30min+ finding a rock and breaking it down is pretty frustrating

[umbral rune]

yeah I bet

[ivory gust]

Had one a few days ago where I found a cluster that would easily fill two prospectors, and had it just about fully broken down (my wife was en route in hers) when the 30k happened

[umbral rune]

ffffffff

and those rocks of course instantly stopped existing

[ivory gust]

Yep, since they're specific to the server

My poor wife, though--it seemed like every time she got on and started playing there was a 30k, I think she hit three within two hours of gameplay

Mining in particular suffers pretty bad from game instability. Things like bounty hunting or bunkers, you get paid immediately so you're never out more than 5-15min worth of work from a crash

[umbral rune]

yeah

though those things are also quite broken

bunkers can just bug out and not spawn dudes

[umbral rune]

ok so that 30k rewarded me

found a cluster on the new server with 3 good rocks

gonna have to make trips

THE HANGAR CLOSED THE DOORS ON MY PROSPECTOR AS I WAS FLYING IN

impounded

it was MY HANGAR and they closed on me, then started impounding

I'm just amazed I didn't go boom

it also detonated my quant on an impound

so getting glitchy grabbed by a door demolished my quant load

so that's 1/3 rocks wasted, it was the smallest but still fuck

[ivory gust]

Probably means you accidentally called them twice

They revoke permission on the second call

Sounds like yet another reason to just impound from the start

[umbral rune]

maybe yeah

i didn't mind the impounding, I didn't trust landing after I got grabbed by the doors

I minded the destruction of quant

also my friend yesterday got a loan from me to buy his own prospector, the very first trip he makes after slapping on a lancet, the ship decides cruise control is optional for just continuing without input, and slams him into the ground (I was watching his stream)

[ivory gust]

I mean that if you'd gone for impounding in the first place you never would've been in a position to get grabbed by the doors

[ivory gust]

Is a VOD available? I'd be curious to see that

[umbral rune]

vod?

oh

no I don't think he clipped it

when i say stream i meant discord stream

[cerulean tree]

how do you do fellow miners

just 30kd, spawned back in the ship with the timer on 2 mins

[worthy scroll]

Should have worn your running pants.

[cerulean tree]

managed to get it impounded on time

[south pollen]

if you have a cargo of raw Quant and get to a station to refine it, does the Quant disappear from the cargo if you store you ship? working with a mole and all the Quant i had is not showing up in the refinery menu

[worthy scroll]

The material stays on the ship when you store it. It only goes away if you claim the ship, or start refining it.

[south pollen]

i've done it twice and had no quant in the selection screen of the refinery

[ivory gust]

if you spawned back in the ship, that wasn't a 30k, that was a client crash

[ivory gust]

Did you land it normally or did you get it impounded?

Also, are you looking at the refining screens or the sell-raw-ore screens?

[cerulean tree]

it gave me the 30k error, I've never spawned on my ship after a client crash

[ivory gust]

You spawn back in your ship after a client crash if you manage to get back onto the same server quickly enough. I've had it happen a few times; easier if you're playing with friends so you can join back on the same server.

Unless they've massively changed how 30k handling works, that wasn't a normal 30k (server crash)...maybe an internet hiccup that showed up as a 30k on your end due to disconnection, but the server saw as a client disconnect?

[cerulean tree]

huh interesting, I didn't notice my internet going out so might've just disconnected for a sec or so

so playing on a server with someone off your friend list has its merits

even if not doing anything together

[south pollen]

i looked at both

plus the mole has issue with landing pads

[ivory gust]

Yep, exactly

[ivory gust]

There's a very common known issue this patch where quant is going inert and/or exploding shortly after landing the ship in a hangar...the safe bet is to just get it impounded instead

[umbral rune]

placeholder, did your ship show up empty, or with random materials but no quant?

[cerulean tree]

it was showing 32 scu inert

[umbral rune]

mmmm

so

[cerulean tree]

but I went to refinery and was able to refine it

[umbral rune]

ah

ok

[ivory gust]

Ah, yeah, that's a display bug in the mining mode that happens sometimes

[umbral rune]

yeah

very common, it changes over new quant to "inert" within a few seconds of mining it, so if you look for that you know

[cerulean tree]

man the hull A is such a cool ship

[umbral rune]

downside: you can't tell how much you have quant
upside: it's purely display bug and your cargo is what you mined

[cerulean tree]

I got it along with the prospector to haul refined

[umbral rune]

i just bought a cutlass black, then a caterpillar in game

[cerulean tree]

I'll be able to pull various orders into it until I've filled the cargo hold right?

[umbral rune]

yes

but no partial orders

[ivory gust]

Hull A can only hold two full loads of Quant, so not really the best long term choice. Okay for starters though, although a rental Freelancer can do exactly the same but faster

[cerulean tree]

I like running cargo, gives me more runs

[ivory gust]

Cutlass black isn't a good choice to buy for it either, similar reason

[umbral rune]

as an ingame purchase I mean

[ivory gust]

Yes, in game it's not a good choice for Quant hauling

[umbral rune]

and not solely for that, but also because once you move past it to another ship for cargo, the cutty is still useful otherwise

I grabbed a cutty before my current hauler, because it's a good step up from mustang alpha for other things, and also because I didn't want to rent again

[ivory gust]

Sure, if you want it for other things as well go for it, but if buying purely for Quant hauling it's not worth it

[umbral rune]

yeah

[ivory gust]

I will be curious to see what the Hull A's in game price ends up being

[umbral rune]

I consider it an ok buy because once you get a bigger hauler, it's stull useful and not just obselete

[ivory gust]

So is the Freelancer MAX

[umbral rune]

I hemmed and hawed between grabbing a freemax, or a taurus as my designated refined q hauler

ended up saying fuck it and grabbing a caterpillar instead. I've made one trip.

if I had mined more the past few days I'd have made a second by now

[ivory gust]

I grabbed a Carrack with my oops money at the start of the patch, so I'm set for that

[umbral rune]

if I knew the oops money was gonna disappear I would have bought all my friends a prospector, but I only got mine with it

[ivory gust]

Main goal this patch cycle is to try out a bunch of different ships to plan for future patches, since there'll be another wipe in a few months anyway. Already most of the way through the list

Ah, but if you'd tried to send money to your friends while they were offline the money would've vanished, had to be on the same server until they fixed that

[umbral rune]

oh?

I got close too, the oops money refreshed once and I had a friend rush to lorville

sadly they were not installed on an SSD so had tons of issues slowing them down

this time the oops money disappeared a bit before they got to new deal

[ivory gust]

Yeah, I called my dad and had him log on to buy a Taurus with his oops money asap even though he wasn't planning on playing for a few days after patch

[umbral rune]

good call, now he has a good haul

[ivory gust]

We'll see if he ever gets a chance to use it before the next wipe, lol

[umbral rune]

lol

when you just come down to the planet and see this

[ivory gust]

Inb4 they're all ghosts

[umbral rune]

nah got one scan so far, also I'd just try my luck with waiting again

only one decent rock ofc

[oak fiber]

Where can i sell my mining stuff

Like mining cargo

[hollow sedge]

Is cargo running worth it? And is sc trade tools accurate?

[ivory gust]

Raw ores are refined at the refinery in a refinery station. You're supposed to be able to sell them there as well, but those terminals are currently bugged.

After refining, you take the refined ores (using a different ship) to one of the four major cities

[ivory gust]

Depends on your ship and how much money you have to spend. Trade tools is mostly accurate, although in game prices sometimes fluctuate a little.

[oak fiber]

Can you use a admin term

[ivory gust]

No

[oak fiber]

Or they have to be refined

[ivory gust]

Can't sell ores to admin terminals regardless of whether they're refined or not

[oak fiber]

oh

[ivory gust]

Raw ores can only be refined or sold to the terminals in refineries (and selling is bugged most places currently).

Refined ores are sold (for 2x what the raw sells for) to TDD terminals in cities.

[oak fiber]

oh Thx

[hollow sedge]

Only got the aurora, but i thini its the easiest way to earn money as a new player?

Got roughly 80K to spend

[ivory gust]

Aurora does not have enough storage to make trading worthwhile. You can instead do delivery missions to start (open mobiglass, contract manager, delivery category) which will earn you a bit of money but aren't great long term

[umbral rune]

I haven't noticed raw selling being bugged

earlier when the hangar doors bit my ship, I sold that lost q cargo to raw terminals

i had it once not let me sell, but that was either the cargo not having enough to sell, or the terminals on that server being bugged

[ivory gust]

Must be inconsistent then, last couple of times I checked it didn't work

[umbral rune]

yeah wouldn't surprise me

[gleaming jetty]

Should I buy a drake cutlass black or a freelancer

[jovial matrix]

What are you planning on doing with them?

[gleaming jetty]

Anything but combat

[jovial matrix]

The cutlass and the freelancer both should be able to do most things other than combat, however if you want the space to comfortably carry a vehicle like a roc or a cyclone, you’d need to get the freelancer max instead of the standard freelancer. The max is 2.1mil~ and the cutty black is like 1.4m~, so Its really down to just cost and aesthetic

I’d recommend getting another opinion first though

[snow badge]

whats good module set up for lancet, quantanium mining in lyria

[hollow sedge]

So i used sc trade tool and i lost 10k while it said i would make a 25k profit..

[ivory gust]

What did you trade, from where to where, and how much

[ivory gust]

Lancet, surge x2, stampede... Or surge stampede optimum

[ivory gust]

Freelancer MAX imo. Easily carry ground vehicles, lots more cargo than Cutlass

[hollow sedge]

NT-999-X to Admin at Grim HEX 600 widow

[ivory gust]

Were you actually able to sell all 600, or just part of it?

Drugs often can't be sold all at once

[hollow sedge]

nahh could only buy 300 and could sell 299

but still like a 10k loss or so..

so website doesnt make sense

[ivory gust]

Would be curious to know what the buy/sell prices were exactly.

I've never traded drugs since they're too hard to move in quantity

[hollow sedge]

https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522Aurora%2520CL%2522,%2522investment%2522:80000,%2522depositType%2522:%2522Handheld%2520tool%2522,%2522profitType%2522:%2522pure%2522,%2522maxStops%2522:2%257D

[ivory gust]

I mean the prices you actually paid in game

If you were only able to get 300, obviously you wouldn't make the listed 24k profit, but I'm not sure how you managed to lose money

Once you've sold all of what you bought

[hollow sedge]

Ik had like 84k or so and ended with 70K and as well i selected my ship and the 600 didn't even fit

First time i am doing this btw

[ivory gust]

Do you actually have an Aurora CL, or a different type?

The normal starter is the Aurora MR

[hollow sedge]

Ohh really? Damnn yeah that's the one, can't choose that one in the list

But still should make a profit

And lost over 15K

[ivory gust]

And you've now sold all of it, right?

[hollow sedge]

Exept one yes

[ivory gust]

What price is Grim Hex buying for, and what price did you pay

[hollow sedge]

I don't know i am already gone

[ivory gust]

Trade tools just lists the "standard" price, in game price can vary slightly

But odd for it to result in losing money instead

[hollow sedge]

Yeah, mabey just unlucky?

[ivory gust]

Trade is not in a great place right now, and as I already said the Aurora isn't suited for it. I recommend pursuing other types of activities until you can get a different ship

[hollow sedge]

Gotcha, what would you recommend?

[ivory gust]

If you don't mind combat, ship bounties or illegal monitor missions (although those are apparently bugged sometimes), or bunker missions

Make sure you add the missing guns to your ship before doing ship combat

[hollow sedge]

Do i have missing guns? Already did one bounty earlier

[ivory gust]

Aurora Mr only has two guns by default with four hardpoints

If you want to avoid combat, you have enough to start mining with a rented cutlass and ROC, or you can do delivery missions

[jovial matrix]

Cave missions make good money too

Just need a heavy backpack to carry all the minerals you loot of the bodies

[cerulean tree]

you could also become a bunker loot goblin and sell things you find on grand exchange

I made a mil for fulfilling a one rare item order today

[crimson oak]

what item, out of curiosity? ive a lot of random crap from loot boxes, no idea if any of it is actually valuable. Mostly helmets though tbh.

[cerulean tree]

microid battle suit legs

[crimson oak]

ah yeah fair enough, microid armour seems to be in high demand, very hard to find them.

one dude in particular seems to be willing to pay absurd amounts of money for them

[cerulean tree]

yeah I find a helmet here and there and arms once but the other stuff seems almost impossible to find

[jovial matrix]

If only it wasn’t so rare, I love how it looks

[crimson oak]

yeah only the helmet seems to be common enough

[jovial matrix]

Mhm

[cerulean tree]

I like to mix it with lynx

[crimson oak]

yeah i love the core as well

before the rework id always wear the microid core, clash arms and legs along with the "Why not?" helmet, looked awesome.

[jovial matrix]

Mmmm yeah

[cerulean tree]

my goto is lynx leg armor, lynx torso microid helm and microid arms when I can find them

I've lost a few pieces to the wake up naked bug

[crimson oak]

dont think ive ever had that

[jovial matrix]

I do morohov (I’m sure that’s not how you spell it) brushdrift helmet and chest, standard pab-1 legs and field recon arms

[ivory gust]

I hate that bug. I strip naked before logout now if I'm wearing anything I care about

[jovial matrix]

Ah hate it when that happens

[cerulean tree]

same, started doing that

sometimes it'll just be some pieces of armor missing

[crimson oak]

O_o first hearing of it

[jovial matrix]

It’s only happened to me bed logging, so I try and avoid beds

[ivory gust]

It's definitely happened to me just logging out normally at a station

[crimson oak]

ive bed logged a lot recently, camping those cat wrecks, no real issues apart from maybe some long load times that id have to alt+f4

[jovial matrix]

Yikes

Where do you get those wreck missions? I might try some

[crimson oak]

Has anyone else noticed an unusual amount of C2's landing at Bezdek these days

[jovial matrix]

Prolly hauling larinite

[crimson oak]

wondering if they're just reeeeeally into trading or if theres some new exploit with laranite

[jovial matrix]

I’d assume it’s just people hauling laranite

[ivory gust]

Laranite + Titanium

[crimson oak]

for the cat wrecks, ya gotta find them manually, no real missions. They're easy to find though if you follow directions, plenty of articles and vids on locations, some are easier than others.

[worthy gazelle]

What's the sitch for mining. Lyria or Belt mining?

[jovial matrix]

Mk. I know I’ve seen missions for them before, but if I can’t get those then I’ll find a guide, thanks

[ivory gust]

Each has their advantages and disadvantages. Lyria seems to be the winner this patch since the Belt is full of unscannable rocks

[crimson oak]

i bed logged outside a cat wreck earlier, now i login to find myself at orison :/

[jovial matrix]

RIP

Have fun leaving atmo :D

[ivory gust]

...did you have Orison as your home? Don't do that

[crimson oak]

you might be thinking of starfarer or reclaimer wreck missions

[cerulean tree]

I've had a few decent runs today on Lyria, haven't run into any unscanables yet

and now that I say that, I bet shit bugs out this next run

[jovial matrix]

Coulda sworn it was a cat, but I’ve seen those also

[crimson oak]

yep orison is my home, i decided to "live" in crusader area this patch.

[crimson oak]

ive never had unscannables on lyria, only in da belt

belta lowda

[cerulean tree]

I would much rather try my hand at belt but too many people are reporting issues

[ivory gust]

It's probably faster to have Lorville or Area 18 as your home and quantum to the Crusader area than to have Orison as your home and get out of that atmosphere...

[jovial matrix]

Indeed

[ivory gust]

I've seen several ghost rocks on lyria in the last few days

[crimson oak]

strange, ive been mining there for months without a single unscannable

[ivory gust]

Guess I'm just lucky

[crimson oak]

aarons halo is really feast or famine in comparison ive found

[ivory gust]

Only remaining advantage of halo imo is that you don't need to worry about modules

[crimson oak]

what do you mean

i still get good use of consumables there

[ivory gust]

You don't need them in the Halo. Every rock you find can be harvested with nothing other than a Lancet

In comparison, Lyria you frequently find rocks that are too large to be cracked without modules

[cerulean tree]

I can vouch for that bit

[ivory gust]

Sure, you can certainly still use them if you want things to be faster/easier or whatever, but it's not needed

[crimson oak]

now that you mention it, i dont think ive ever found a rock in aarons halo that i couldnt crack

[ivory gust]

Because halo rocks are all between like 4200 and 5200 mass

[crimson oak]

wonder why

[crimson oak]

transporting 3m worth of refined quant in my C2, just 30k'd

fingers crossed its still there

[umbral rune]

should be

well guess by now you'd know eh?

I believe 30k'd ships can be retrieved anywhere, so if that happened to me in my cargo trip, I'd take a fast ship to the destination and retrieve the cargo ship there

[crimson oak]

yeah i got it back fine, respawned at the station i left and the c2 was stored there.

gave me a bit of a heart attack when i woke up in a station though

i thought id just be back in my c2 in space

[marble crater]

30K recovery has been working well for me this patch

[cerulean tree]

which refining method to use for best results?

[lean seal]

even if it would be better „idk if 30k recovery works, never had a 30k this patch“

[cerulean tree]

ferron exchange seems best

[royal cairn]

dinyx is most inexpensive but takes forever so if you do this expect to haul it in 1.5-2 days

[cerulean tree]

yeah I saw the time needed and decided against

which hand gadget should I bring with me for a prospector with only passive modules that'll make it easier for me to crack a rock? I'm doing halo

[crimson oak]

I always use Dynx or whatever its called

high gains, cheapest and im not in a rush so the long refine time doesnt bother me

[umbral rune]

how bad was halo bugged rn?

[cerulean tree]

I got like 29 scu of quant from halo

took about 20 mins

[worthy scroll]

Depends. I've had times where it's totally fine, and times where most rocks can't be scanned.

[ivory gust]

If you're in the halo, as long as you have a lancet you don't need any gadgets or modules

[cerulean tree]

I got two torrent and one focus anyway from lyria

[marble crater]

Ferron is my preferred refining option too. nice balance of time vs yield

[cerulean tree]

and I'm liking the halo more tbh

[marble crater]

Halo is better for the Prospector when it works

[umbral rune]

warp times would be my concern

more than twice lyria to arc l1

[marble crater]

can't say I've struggled with time from the Halo to ARCL1

actually had more time troubles from Lyria cause I'm in a Mole at that point lol

[crimson oak]

ive found when i get ghost rocks in aarons halo, just warp back to station a tiny tiny bit, like 200km and force stop the quantum, the fresh area will give you a good few scannable rocks, then rinse and repeat when they get bugged

[ivory gust]

alternately, stand up out of the chair and then get back in, that seems to cause the unscannables to vanish for me

[umbral rune]

what's your path from arc to halo to arc l1, 19?

[crimson oak]

also ive noticed that if some rocks wont scan, they might give you a result when switching to mining mode

like some will very briefly scan and then stop scanning, those ones will appear in mining mode, you'll be able to tell if its a q-type anyway

[ivory gust]

...you should be in mining mode all the time in the halo anyway

unless you're in QT, there's no reason not to be in mining mode

[crimson oak]

directional scanning 2 degrees with the ship scanner is what i use, then switch to mining mode to see what type of rock it is

[ivory gust]

you don't need to use the ship scanner, just do the ping at 2 degrees in mining mode

ping 180 or 360 to get the initial results, then ping 2 at each result to see the rock type, all in mining mode

[crimson oak]

huh, never thought of that before

ive just always assumed you need to bring up the scanning mode each time

[marble crater]

I use ARCL1 to HURL5 mainly, sometimes ARCL1 to Hurston. I go for the lower density bands

my other spot is HURL2 to ARC L4/MT

[umbral rune]

hey is there any way in game to repair a ship that's immobile?

noob mining friend blew up a rock with only an "uh oh" as warning, both our prospectors are no longer flight capable

I brought passive modules and do not want to lose those

[ivory gust]

Nope, there's no repair ships or tractor beams yet

[umbral rune]

well fuck

yet again, passive modules should be included in insurance claims

[ivory gust]

absolutely yes

[worthy scroll]

I accidentally found a "fix" for that, but if you can actually do it or not...

Wait for a 30k 🙂

[umbral rune]

yeah figured

but that aint gonna happen

[ivory gust]

If missiles are included in claims, then so should modules

[umbral rune]

let's see, two vaux 3, and a foxus 3

that's 80k right?

[ivory gust]

don't use passives when mining with noobs

just put it on his tab

bill him for it later

[umbral rune]

he already owes me for half his prospector

lmao

I'm over here with my not-blown-up but unusable ship like

[cerulean tree]

just went back into the halo and found the perfect rock 5 minutes in

[worthy scroll]

It's technically blown up. It's what's on the inside that counts!

[cerulean tree]

screw lyria

[umbral rune]

it destroyed the power plant and engines

[marble crater]

Just push it home

[umbral rune]

at least that's my guess considering they're sputtering and the hud won't activate it

[worthy scroll]

Call the 30k towing service.

[marble crater]

Tell someone in the server to go roc mining should get a 30k in 5 minutes

[ivory gust]

make your friend sit there in your prospector while you backspace back to the station to go roc mining

[umbral rune]

he already backspaced

[ivory gust]

so make him fly back to you and sit in your prospector while you go roc mining, obviously

[umbral rune]

and when he got to lyria to warp to me, he got the good ol "ship forgets to warp AROUND the planet" bug

[worthy scroll]

Yeah, never warp to a party member. Bad things can happen.

[umbral rune]

I think I just need a jump-start

[cerulean tree]

last time a rock exploded it destroyed my shields, engines and the cargo things on the sides

ship is still missing the cargo barrels

[umbral rune]

the cargo was empty so they're not expanded yet

it's JUST the modules I lose here

[umbral rune]

bit late but why lower density bands?

best case scenario is max ~1/3 the amount

[marble crater]

I find it's less cluttered with lower tier ore

[cyan mountain]

Same lmao

[drowsy zodiac]

can anyone other than the pilot scan for minable rocks in the mole?

[polar dock]

should i buy a cutlass black now, or save up for a constellation?

[atomic flame]

hey i just got my cat any1 able to teach me the ways of trading

[jovial matrix]

second day in a row where Deja Vu has started playing as soon as I get in my MAX to do some hauling

[marble crater]

what are you needing out of the new ship? purely cargo or a multi use ship?

[polar dock]

cargo for transporting quant, but multi use would also be preferable

[ivory gust]

Cutlass black is not a good choice for transporting quant. Consider instead the Freelancer MAX

[cobalt rivet]

^

[marble crater]

yeah the 40 odd scu means you can only really move 1 load of Quant at a time from the Prospector

[cobalt rivet]

Still angry valkyrie is not a good cargo ship

[marble crater]

Freelancer Max or Constellation Taurus are 2 great picks

[cobalt rivet]

Max cheaper

Connie has better guns

[umbral rune]

and if you want to hard focus only on cargo space per euc, i got a caterpillar

it drives like a brick house though

[rocky haven]

Anyone found quantanium while using the mole yet?

Getting on for 12-14hrs of gameplay, not found one rock.

[marble crater]

found a bunch on Lyria in the Mole but it's real slow without a scout to help

[ivory gust]

That seems....off. Where are you scanning, and how?

[stoic harbor]

anyone know any starting trade lines?? i got a 400i to transport

[left flower]

xrOo has op fuleing service check him out his name in game is xrOo 10/10

[glacial dagger]

Why you spamming this bud?

[ornate rock]

shitlord of the universe

[glacial dagger]

Yup

'gUYs, iT's tOTALy nOt An ORg'

[ornate rock]

"it's totally not me"

there's actually people using refueling mechanics right now?
can't imagine that being any faster that just hopping to any R&R

[rugged axle]

@drowsy zodiac the mining turrets can scan in the mole, and it actually works better. Since it's always in mining mode, they can scan just like a prospector. But will need to communicate with the pilot on where to point them to scan the rocks(since they are all offset from pilot view)

@rocky haven for the mole you really want someone in the turret to scan(for distance) or a scout. Mole pilot doesn't have mining mode, therefore you can only scan in scan mode. Which has a much lower distance before getting contents back compared to mining mode

On lyria you can do it solo since your just looking for group return contacts. Then you have two choices of either flying to within 200m to scan it using scan mode, or go down to laser 1 and scan from distance like in a prospector.

[gentle brook]

dbox are you online? ill scout/man a turret for you

[rocky haven]

@ivory gust @rugged axle Ok thx guys. I might try Lyria then. I searched a couple of places in the belt and around some of the stations but nothing. I do have a prospector, maybe i'll switch back to that and give these new modules a go.

[rocky haven]

Thanks but im done for today.

[rugged axle]

Prospector is preferred for the halo imo. 90% of the time you won't find a rock big enough to warrant the mole.

Only time I take the mole is if a friend found a cluster with multiple good rocks. Or if I find the cluster and get a friend to hold the spot

Best way for mole in halo, is have a friend in prospector. And either pay him(1 or 2 rocks), or let him take a full load, and you scoop the rest(multiple rocks)

I still prefer just running 3 prospectors tbh. Same capacity, same # of modules. And everyone gets their own share. Swap out who gets full loads vs scraps every rock and it mostly ends up even

[cerulean tree]

where to sell refined stuff, major cities?

[wary maple]

Yes, any major City. Prices are the same

[mild pumice]

big money for me LOL

[gentle ibex]

the 2 degree ping on lyria seems to never get any hits. in the belt i can get pings back at 10k which tells me what kind of rocks are present. Am i doing something wrong ?

[rugged axle]

It's a little different on lyria. At 10k you'll probably only get triangles back. Your looking for more than 1 per "box" contact. That's guaranteed quant. Then fly to the 2 or more and scan them normally(mining mode) for %s

[cyan mountain]

have you guys ever mined on MT moons?

[snow badge]

joking to myself when I found this single 3300 mass quantanium rock
"its gonna be the perfect 50% rock that gets me enough"
ends up being 48.98%

[crimson oak]

MT moons used to be all the rage for quant but they're kinda annoying to mine at due to the high winds.

[hollow sedge]

How do I fix the Argo Mole scanning mode (V) not scanning the boxes
It makes mining practically nearly impossible without being able to scan

[ivory gust]

You can't, that's not how the MOLE works.

Mine on Lyria where you can tell that clusters are quant

[hollow sedge]

Umm I could've sworn I've been doing that the entire time but that was back in patch 3.16

[versed plinth]

I saw a cluster of 9 rocks the other day while I was doing a delivery mission on Clio.

[ivory gust]

Scanning changed in 3.17 AFAIK, you need mining mode to be able to see what rocks are what from a distance, and that only works on asteroids anyway. Scan mode only shows details when you're close

[hollow sedge]

Oh dang

you can no longer see the max signatures of rock clusters?

like 10,000+ to detect quantanium

[ivory gust]

I didn't play in 3.16 so I don't know how it worked then, but that's not a thing anymore afaik

There's currently two good ways of scanning.

Asteroids : be in mining mode (solo MOLE can't do it), ping 360 to get results, ping each result at 2 degrees, if it's a Quant rock it'll show Q-type up to 12km away

Lyria: Don't need mining mode. Ping at 360 for results, ping each result at 2 degrees. If result resolves into multiple white diamonds, it's a cluster and is guaranteed Quant (assuming it's not ghost rocks)

[crimson oak]

you can ping and adjust scanning angle while still being in mining mode btw

[blazing beacon]

best mining location, near arc-l1?

[cyan mountain]

My ship got yeeted off a mountain lmao

[crimson oak]

lyria

[cyan mountain]

Calliope's atmo is way too thick

[blazing beacon]

much obliged

[rugged axle]

@hollow sedge have someone in a turret...or fly to a spot, go down to laser and scan.

Mole isn't great for halo. Best for lyria

[hollow sedge]

Yea I've been lyria mining but it was so much easier being able to check if ores are quantanium from 10km away using pilot scanning mode

[rugged axle]

Once again, on lyria to check that is to simply use ping, not scan. Start at 180/90. Drop to 2* and ping on the box. If 2 or more signatures come back...its quant

Then you fly to it and use scan mode within 250m to check % of quant in that rock

[scarlet sinew]

RIP, 30k right when I finished breaking a 5k 40% rock

[scarlet sinew]

another 30k right as I find a 30% rock lol

it's a sign to quit playing for the day

[stiff verge]

cheap mining starter kit?

[timid oyster]

anyone know any good freelancer trade routes that go between arccorp and its moons or accorp arccorps moons and nearby plabets/moons?

[ivory gust]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[ivory gust]

Rent a ROC and cutlass at a refinery station for about 40k for a day

[stiff verge]

and how much i make an hour?

[ivory gust]

Depends on luck and skill but 100k - 200k/hr

[stiff verge]

k thx

[ivory gust]

For max income, also buy the Pembroke suit and helmet from the refinery, then go to Aberdeen

[timid oyster]

thx bit i cant figure out how to use it

[ivory gust]

Click trade routes, enter your ship and how much money you have to spend on cargo.

In the filters, go to the commodities section, expand Types, select Vice, choose "Avoid Selection" (this will avoid drugs and other illegal cargo)

Go to Locations, expand the Locations drop down, select Stanton > ArcCorp and choose "Only Selection" (this will filter the results to routes only in ArcCorp space)

[plush maple]

How much distilled spirit is a good amount to buy?

I know there's stock limitations

I don't want another full caterpillar of stims incident where I can only sell 5k at a time

[fallow cedar]

Ferron is much better than Dinyx right?

[plush maple]

It's more expensive but faster- I believe it's same efficiency but don't quote me on it

[fallow cedar]

it is

seems like a no brainer an extra 6k to save 28 hrs

[plush maple]

I usually choose it if I'm in a rush for credits to buy a ship but otherwise dinyx if I'm in no hurry

[sleek torrent]

How does transferring cargo work. If I have a prospector and I wanna transfer full containers to another ship. Can I do that by myself? Or is that not needed and I can just take my load to a refinery with my prospector and refine it? Sorry new to the mining game

[glacial dagger]

So in the current state of the game, the only way you can 'transfer' mined goods is to refine it

When the cargo refactor comes in, you may potentially be able to move your cargo from one ship to another, but we're all waiting to see how that's gonna be done

[sleek torrent]

Ok. So I’m totally good with a solo mining operation with the prospector

[plush maple]

Yessir

Will just need to rent a ship to haul mined goods to a city to sell

Unless you already own a decent hauling ship

[sleek torrent]

I have a Andromeda

[plush maple]

That'll do

[sleek torrent]

Sweet

So should I be mining asteroids or planets?

[plush maple]

Personal preference- I prefer Lyria

But I focus on Quantanium so I'd go elsewhere depending on your target to mine

[humble iris]

what should i trade and where

[sleek torrent]

How long do I have before quantanium degrades and I lose the cargo?

[plush maple]

Around 13 min from the first bit getting extracted

So get everything fully broken down and scanned before you start extracting

[sleek torrent]

Okay.

[plush maple]

And I'd only mine rocks that are more than 20% quant

[sleek torrent]

Otherwise it won’t yield much?

Any specific build I should go for? Or just use erkul and go with the best I can afford?

[ivory gust]

it's 15min from first extraction

[ivory gust]

lancet head is required. modules are your choice. if you're mining in the belt you don't need them at all, if you're mining on lyria there will be some rocks that need modules to break--the usual build is 2x surge 1x stampede

[sleek torrent]

Thanks Chris

[vestal vector]

Yo mining is fun as, this channel helped me lots with questions i appreciate guys/gals

What happens after a major update? Does everything get wiped? Earned credits/purchased ships/items?

Saving up for an M2 Hercules 💪

[ivory gust]

Depends on the update. The 3.17.2 update wiped ships, items, and credits, but not rep. The 3.17.1 update didn't wipe anything.

There will be a wipe with 3.18 but we don't yet know what will be wiped. Probably a safe bet it's at least ships and items, probably credits as well.

[vestal vector]

Alright, i started the game with 45k credits, i assume that with a credits wipe it will revert back to that...?

[ivory gust]

Yes

[vestal vector]

💪

[sleek torrent]

I’m not seeing stampede on erkul.

[ivory gust]

Erkul doesn't do modules

[sleek torrent]

Is there a app that does

[ivory gust]

Oh, you probably also want to upgrade your QT to at least an Atlas if not a VK-00

No, I don't think so, you have to look them up manually

[sleek torrent]

Okay. Will do.

[ivory gust]

https://finder.cstone.space/ can tell you where to buy them

[sleek torrent]

Sweet, I can get them at the refinery

You know, a lot of people hate on this game, but really it’s got so much meat on the bone already, and the community, is like none other

So glad it isn’t free to play

[plush maple]

Welcome to the mining union citizen

[sleek torrent]

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. First I have to successfully mine something, refine it, and trade it! Haha

[plush maple]

Don't be silly- blowing yourself up or losing your goods is a rite of passage- trial by error is the way! [MISC is not liable for any loss of limb, maiming, vaporization, or bodily harm suffered while using MISC products]

[sleek torrent]

Haha true. That rule is exactly why I am a combat vet in my Connie!

Can the prospector use surge modules? I see a slot for the stampede but not for 2 surges

[calm egret]

yep, either one should fit in the same slot

prospector has 3 slots

[sleek torrent]

I have a a weapon a lot and a sub item slot in utility.

Is this because I have the stock laser? Do I get more modules with the lancet?

NeverMind. The answer is yes. Sorry for the flood of messages guys

[calm egret]

ah i actually didnt realize it was the lancet giving the slots that was my bad

[sleek torrent]

All good man. It’s so easy to ask here before actually looking at info online that I forget I can use my brain at times

Do I have to do anything to activate modules or do they just add to the lasers attributes

[calm egret]

shift 1 2 3 are default

or alt i mean

[sleek torrent]

What are they called in the keybindings? I use a controller so I have to map it

[calm egret]

not 100% check for a mining category, probably mining module

[sleek torrent]

NeverMind

Mining module

Got it

[calm egret]

i only use 1 surge usually as well, 1 surge + 1 stampede is good enough once you get the hang of it

[sleek torrent]

How does it work. You activate them to go faster and break?

[calm egret]

yeah surge gives a huge burst to intial meter

and stampede helps you get through the green

[sleek torrent]

Got it.

Thank you

You may be the first person to not criticize me about using a controller.

[calm egret]

well i wouldnt recommend it, but people can play however they want

[sleek torrent]

Been doing this for over 10 years. Arma is where it started. And always could hold my own. People wouldn’t believe me when I told them I was using a Gamepad.

[calm egret]

honestly i considered arma to be impossible with a controller just cause of how many keybinds there were

but well done lol

[sleek torrent]

Yea. Well I have a keyboard and mouse on the couch next to me for the 5% of things i just can’t do. Learned that from Arma as well. But I can do most things with just my controller.

I just can’t use a keyboard for controlling. My hands cramp up. Even with a controller it gets bad. Im old

Working in the carpentry world for too long

[worthy scroll]

I get cramps from controllers just because they're so dang small. Not meant for NBA hands.

[sleek torrent]

I get that. I have big hands. Not nba hands! But I gotta have the biggest iPhone otherwise I can’t text worth shit

[worthy scroll]

Ha, yeah.

I have a Pixel 3 XL, which is supposed to be a decent size phone, but it's pretty small to me. I can't imagine how I used to use the older, much smaller smart phones.

[sleek torrent]

Right. I remember the Nokias

This is why I’m taking my profession to mining! Dogfighting is super fun, but a few hours of that and I’m contemplating calling it quits. And I love this game so that’s not an option.

[worthy scroll]

I tried to get back into mining. Did it for a few days and ended up going back to my ol' faithful, box missions.

I don't know why but I just like doing them.

[sleek torrent]

I like those too. And will still do them. But I wanted to mine. I had a roc and it was a pain having to undock from my ship to mine 1 rock, then dock, and repeat. And it’s not worth it when you can only mine the small stuff.

[ivory gust]

You shouldn't be stopping for single rocks, only clusters of 3 or more

[sleek torrent]

Only clusters I found in my few days of mining with the roc we’re not worth it. Wasn’t anything I could even refine.

Combine that with having to load and unload the roc, just took too long for nothing

[long linden]

I use to mine with my roc, found it easier to do cargo runs 🙂

Once I can use my Reclaimer that will be next

[sleek torrent]

It can mine?

[worthy scroll]

Yeah, they're my relaxing gameplay. I'm a butt hair away from concierge, have some decent ships, and I still run box missions all the time. Give me a big, expensive ship, and I'll run boxes with it. 😎

[sleek torrent]

Haha. I do it in my Connie. Love that ship. I just had a conversation with her when I bought the prospector. Told her not to worry, you still my main girl. We just got this side chick who is gonna help make us those credits

[long linden]

I'm a concierge and have large ships lots of fun on cargo runs

[worthy scroll]

When my Vulture is in the game the first thing I'm doing with it is a box mission.

Same for my Corsair lol.

[long linden]

🙂

I use to like using my 325i doing box runs

Now I use my C2

[sleek torrent]

I hope we can one day soon name our ships

[long linden]

I have 2 ships in my fleet that are named

It would be nice if any ship can be 🙂

[worthy scroll]

We will eventually, they have to get the new system in place for it though. The one being used right now is a placeholder.

Until then, I keep a list saved on my phone for potential ship names 🙂

[sleek torrent]

Is that like a backer reward or something? How are they named?

[worthy scroll]

No, just specific ships that can be named. The MSR, Reclaimer, and a couple/few others.

It's basically a test.

[sleek torrent]

Ahhh didn’t know that

[long linden]

Yes 🙂

[sleek torrent]

That’s cool

[long linden]

My Hammerhead and Reclaimer have names

[sleek torrent]

Now I’m jealous

[worthy scroll]

The way it works right now is only one unique name can be used for each ship. So for example, there can only be one MSR named "YoloSwag", but there could also be a Reclaimer with that name. What's supposed to happen is any name can be used on any ship, and ships are actually identified by their serial number.

[sleek torrent]

Seriously thought about trading all my shit in and upgrading to a hammerhead today.

[worthy scroll]

Niche ship that requires a crew to have any use at all.

[calm egret]

sorry i misread

[sleek torrent]

Yea that’s why I didn’t do it

[worthy scroll]

Unless you want to run boxes in it...

[sleek torrent]

Haha. I would

[long linden]

My A2 can be run with one 🙂

Bombs a way

Except for all the turrets

[ivory gust]

Where were you trying it?

[sleek torrent]

Yela. Only ever found Aphorite

[ivory gust]

Yela is not good for ROC mining. Aberdeen, Arial, Daymar in that order

[sleek torrent]

Well the roc is no more. And I didn’t really care for driving the roc. Felt like a 4 wheeler. I’d rather fly

What am I doing wrong. I can’t move my laser.

[mortal bison]

So, I've been killing it (in my eyes) in prospector mining and I pulled in my biggest haul yesterday at 2.5 mil. I have pledged the freelancer max, but I'm finding out quickly making 3 runs a day from the refinery in my max isn't exactly what I call efficient. So I saved up the past few days and got the C2. And while I love that ship, dang, it takes a minute to get to the command deck.

So

Miners, what's your strategy for ships, coming from someone who has been used to driving a singular one around for the first hundred'ish hours?

[sleek torrent]

So I know M puts me in mining mode. And I can shoot my laser. But I can’t move it. I could with the rock. So I don’t know what I’m supposed to press for it to not be stationary

[odd flint]

I got a cat a long time ago. Love the drake aesthetic.

So that's plenty for mining.

Although a lot of the time I use the freelancer max because it's less of a pig in atmosphere.

[worthy scroll]

The C2 is actually pretty quick to get around in. I fly a Caterpillar...

[full mantle]

yea i was suprised how fast that thing can maneuver vs the cat.. might have to upgrade the cat

[worthy scroll]

I picked up a box I can't let go of. Drawing a weapon doesn't work, getting my pilot seat doesn't work.

Trying to pick up something else doesn't work.

This is a new one.

[worthy scroll]

Pinging in my DUR brought up something 69k away 👀

[ivory gust]

It's a ship, probably

[ivory gust]

You don't, it's stationary. You move the laser by moving the ship

[worthy scroll]

I wasn't curious enough to go check it out, just thought it was interesting that something popped up that far.

I did ping a Prospector at about 18k out just now, but that was pretty much right when the chevron showed up.

Jeez, the next box I picked up for a mission also glitched into my hands. Never even heard of this happening before, and now it's happened twice in a row.

Can't get rid of it, I'll have to relog again.

I never realized pings went so far. I'm at Baijini Point and it hits the surface of AC.

[marble crater]

Does the Freelancer DUR show up mineable pings with the 2 degree setting any further than 12km out?

[worthy scroll]

Hmm, dunno, I didn't test that (and I just logged out).

Exploration ships should be able to scan better than other ships though.

[marble crater]

fair enough

[worthy scroll]

I just watched something on that not long ago.

[scarlet sinew]

Taurus is my quant hauler. Has room for like 5-6 loads of quant per run, and it has an xl1 drive so it gets around fast.

I don’t mine enough for anything bigger to be worth it for me

It’s also my pledge ship, so I always have it around

[worthy scroll]

Yeah, the Cat is one of my pledge ships. She was meant to be a stepping stone, but I'm probably keeping it.

[mortal bison]

I flew to lorvile to change out the quant drive in her first voyage. Now she boogies while jumping with the TS-2

[ivory gust]

Caterpillar will hopefully get a lot better by comparison to the C2 when the cargo refactor happens

[worthy scroll]

Not only that, but all the modularity it's supposed to get later as well.

[vestal vector]

If i get 30k error while im flying a ship full of cargo... Will i lose the cargo?

[umbral rune]

nope

typically she ship is stored in whatever location it was in when you crash, even if it's just "Lyria"

they should be able to be retrieved from anywhere you load in, so if you reload in after a 30k at your refining station, you should be able to retrieve and immediately store your ship, and the refinery will pick it up

and that's if it doesn't already

[vestal vector]

Cheers, will feel less nervous when carrying a farer full of cargo...

[calm egret]

Just don't claim the ship, it should say retrieve, stored in Stanton. It helps to wait a bit before loading back in, i wait 10-15 mins

[vestal vector]

Alright hopefully it never happens but good to know what to do in case

[elfin granite]

is it profitable to get a new scanner on the freelancer max ?

to do some mining with the ROC

and whats are the advantages of a better scanner ?

[marble crater]

can't change scanners so that's an easy one

[elfin granite]

ok thanks 😄

thought it was possible

[marble crater]

in the future I would assume so but it's all pretty bare bones for what you can upgrade for now

[elfin granite]

thanks for clearing that up 🙂

[marble crater]

can check !erkul to see what's possible now

[wary tusk]

#DPSCalculator

• Calculator • Shops • Ships • Weapons •

[elfin granite]

thanks, couldn't find that page 😄

[swift trench]

Is anyone else having problems with the ore selling? No ships coming up in the locations

[mild pumice]

@swift trench yeah same issue, I could refine it tho

[eager hedge]

Newb miner here, i have the brandt module, but don't know how to toggle it on while mining and for some reason the shortcut key doesn't work or am pressing the wrong one

got it i was pressing the wrong button lol

[coarse gyro]

is there a guide that lists the best prospy build for quant?

[pearl mulch]

Is there any location the mole excels at? Or just general Lyria?

[barren marsh]

New player here, trying to wrap my brain around the game. I want to get into mining or trading so I can buy big toys. Made a few 100k doing random missions. Should I rent a freighter or miner to make better money, or is there a better recommendation for somebody just starting out to make decent money?

[pearl mulch]

You could rent a cutless + roc and mine hadenite thats pretty decent money

haven't tried out trading but heared it wasn't to good this patch

[real ingot]

the money is good in trading the problem is the supplies run out fast. mining would probably be faster money if you enjoy that gameplay. bounties are good money too fi your into the combat side of the game

[shy crane]

The way I've done it since the beginning and after a wipe....grind delivery missions until you reach the level to get the 45k ones....then rinse and repeat. One the way to the level you get to explore and once you get the 45k ones...you might get to try out your FPS skills. Do that until you can buy a Prospector

or if you like FPS....grind the Protect and Defend missions until you reach the 90k level......rinse, repeat and buy Prospector

[north oyster]

I apologize for missing your tag, I've been off the grid. Was it an issue with moving cargo to a rental like Chris suspected?

[fallen atlas]

Yep. All good!

[barren marsh]

Sounds good guys, thanks for the direction

[ancient pilot]

Moment of silence for my 900k of cargo in my C2 just gone because of a game crash 😭

[jagged storm]

It'll be there

[ancient pilot]

Nope it's not. C2 shows as destroyed and I woke up in hospital

[real ingot]

feels brotha

[lethal thicket]

whoops wring channel

[real ingot]

i lost a full c2 load the other dayt o a game crash so i feel your pain

[ancient pilot]

I supposed it's the risk we take 😢

[real ingot]

it is unfortunately lol

[shy crane]

anyone have a sure-fire cargo route that I can use to take advantage of my Freelancer cargo space?

[worthy scroll]

Sure-fire and cargo running is an oxymoron right now.

But, use this site to find a route. Routes are basically hitting a place and going to a main city to sell, then go back to the original place to buy again. Rinse and repeat. Buy up the best thing there is (the most expensive), when that runs out, because it will, then go to the next item.

https://sc-trade.tools/home

[ivory gust]

Selling raw ore seems to be broken for most people currently

[swift trench]

Perfect haha, is it fine if it gets refined?

[ivory gust]

Yep

[foggy rain]

Can't find any quant on Lyria

[worthy scroll]

It's all about luck. You should have plenty.

[foggy rain]

What mass and % of quant should I aim for?

[ivory gust]

Use something like https://sc-mining.app/ to convert mass and % into SCU

Ideally you'd get 32 SCU, but that's not always feasible

Also, how are you scanning? On Lyria you should be looking for clusters, they're always quant

[scarlet sinew]

the general rule of thumb is anything above 20% quant is ok to stop and mine. assuming you're in a solo prospector (so like 5k and under mass rocks), that won't give you a full 32scu of quant, but it's enough to make money with.

I forget the exact number, but full 32 scu of only quant requires a rock thats like 4k mass and 36% quant or something like that

actually, per the linked calc, it's 40k mass and 40% to get exactly 32scu...assuming you get perfect breaks or have some filters running.

[ivory gust]

Around 5k mass, % and SCU are pretty close

so 5k 30% ~= 30 SCU

And the 20% rule of thumb won't always work for low mass rocks on Lyria...20% 2.5k mass isn't worth the time

[scarlet sinew]

true, but in fairness, I don't find too many rocks that small

generally everything is like 3.5k-ish and up

[ivory gust]

i'd argue that 3.5k 20% still isn't worth it, that's only 14SCU

[scarlet sinew]

all depends on how much time you have i guess lol

I generally don't stop unless the rock is 35% or more and at least near 4k, but if I've been looking forever and come across a 3.5k 25% rock, I'll generally just stop and mine it just to actually get something refining

[calm egret]

for me it depends on how long ive been searching for a rock. sometimes if i've been on a really unlucky streak ill just take the 14scu

[cobalt rivet]

14 scu is still money but you can do better

Scanning really does slow you down, just pop a quick ping and if you see at least two rocks near each other then slow down and scan those rocks

Otherwise keep flying so you can cover more ground

[last kite]

Should i Upgrade my cut black to a constillation Taurus

Im New and only have 40k xD