industrial-professions

[spring prism]

Too abd you can't tell how much a rock has in composition on a non-mining ship

[ivory gust]

You can with scan mode I thought?

[spring prism]

I thought you had to be in mining mode

[ivory gust]

Mining mode shows it automatically, scanning mode shows it if you do an active scan, I thought

The big advantage of mining mode is being able to see asteroid type from a distance, but that doesn't matter on lyria

[spring prism]

I've had white pings before from 11k away, and active scans won't show composition. Just type

[ivory gust]

They should show it if you're close enough, mining mode doesn't show composition from that far either

[jagged storm]

Idk if its just me, but don't use the right terminal here it keeps putting ships 20ft in the air (Arc-L1)

[ivory gust]

Shouldn't be terminal specific, but also shut your engines off when you arrive and it won't be a problem

[spring prism]

Change your ship's components, remove the power plant. Spawn it. Turn off everything on the ship, get out, store it. Put the power plant back in, spawn again.

[jagged storm]

I normally just store it and use another terminal

[hoary ice]

anyone at the halo atm that want 2 quat asteroids ?
35% and 39% enough for one prospector cargo

[spring prism]

Hopefully whoever gets to go there, gets good breaks. Last time I had that kind of quant asteroid, it had two bad breaks, and a handful went onto a rock with other stuff

[hoary ice]

im about to leave them if no1 wants them

36

[rugged axle]

You still there @hoary ice ?

[hoary ice]

close enough

[rugged axle]

I just walked in the door. Booting up now.

[hoary ice]

k, my ingame name if Fir3line

[worthy scroll]

Helix still good for Prospector mining, not focusing on quant?

[visual harbor]

Is anyone having issues with scanning right now? Ive gone to 4 differant servers and can not scan with the ship of the ROC

[hoary ice]

surface deposits?

[visual harbor]

correct

[hoary ice]

give them a few wacks with the gun

or a quick mine module hit

doesnt help if you dont have a miner ship

[rugged axle]

friend request sent fir3

[visual harbor]

well im using a ship to transport the ROC so i can get enough money to buy the prospector

but can not for the life of me get any surface rock at all to scan

[rugged axle]

how are you scanning?

[visual harbor]

hitting "v"

tab to find

and holding left click at every angle possible

[coral crypt]

I've tried cargo hauling several times but I can't manage to find a route to fill my ship (96 SCU) or be worth the time spent (I'm not going to spend 20-30min for 5k profit). What am I doing wrong?

I've tried 2 different "trade finder" websites but I've never managed to find profitable routes...

[rugged axle]

for scan mode, you need to be close

[visual harbor]

ive tried everything from every angle between 100 metters and literally sitting on it

can you scan in mining mode?

[hoary ice]

if u get close in mining mode yea

as soon as you bring up the mining head it should scan

[visual harbor]

how do you go about scanning in mining mode? any specific button or will it just do it

[hoary ice]

it just does it

but for the ROC what do you need to scan?

if it has enough minerals you mine it, thats about it

you can see which gem it is by the color

[visual harbor]

do you not have to scan first to be able too mine

[hoary ice]

nope, the mining module will auto scan it

usually, on rock deposits you just scan to see if its worth your time

[visual harbor]

well then it looks like im just misunderstanding mining then

[hoary ice]

for ROC mining what I would advise is, do fly by scans, of 180 degree to look for deposits

if its 3 or more investigate which mineral it is

you can either scan with your main ship, or simply look at the color the mineral has

[visual harbor]

Thanks for the help!

[rugged axle]

by scanning, he means pinging. not scan mode. look for new contacts that first pop up around 5-6km out. anything further is a prosp/mole rock.

[visual harbor]

would nayone wanna party up while i try to understand getting started?

[hoary ice]

i rented a prospector for 30days by mistake, and by god im going to use the 30days

[coral crypt]

noice!
40%, 30%, 3x 2%

[umbral rune]

I've had 10x nodes of all 2-5% before

But usually a cluster means you get a load

I have before made 3 trips back to the same spot to fill up (4 total)

My friends tell me I'm crazy to be able to do that

No way points or friends waiting there

Fir your best bet for income is to buddy up with someone who owns a prospector with Lancet whenever possible

Probably

[ivory gust]

Distance depends on ships. Most ships detect gems at 3.1km; anything more than that is a Prospector ore rock.

Some ships detect out to 5km or so

[rugged axle]

ill agree to disagree

[ivory gust]

I've tested it pretty extensively. You can disagree all you want, but you'll be wrong.

[rugged axle]

scanners are the same on all ships right now...so if your seeing a difference, something is wrong

[ivory gust]

Sorry, but no. Go try it for yourself.

Easiest test would be to go rent an Andromeda. Find a gem deposit, you'll see that it scans at 3.1km.

Go hop in the P-52 in the back, you'll see that it scans the same deposit out to like 5.2km.

[hoary ice]

haha

[royal cairn]

damn just 10k

[coarse cape]

thats a steal on your end

[rugged axle]

times be tough for a pirate i guess

want me to come kill him fire?

[hoary ice]

nah, managed to escape

on a prospector

he had a mantis too

[rugged axle]

so, your telling me. a snub fighter has a stronger scanner than a full on medium size ship? that makes alot of sense

doesnt know how to use qed on it maybe? lol

ive actually seen that name before..trying to remember where

[ivory gust]

That's how it works currently. Does it make sense? Not particularly. But that's the way it is.

Could maybe say that the snub is designed for scouting so it has the stronger scanner? 🤷‍♂️

MSR also has the 5.2km scan range, which does make more sense

[cobalt rivet]

Snub scan rocks real gud?

[lusty jacinth]

Anyone ever have a work order disappear for no reason?

[spring prism]

I know some people have been complaining about their ores turning into all inert materials. But so far I haven't seen anyone complain about your Work Order issue.

[north oyster]

The inert bug, fortunately, is only a HUD display issue. All the Quantainium is shown in the Refinery

[rugged axle]

lost 86scu from the timer bug though

[marble crater]

There's 2 inert bugs right now. 1 shows inert in ship but ok at refinery, the other shows up ok in ship but inert at refinery (presumably from rough landing). Super fun

[worthy gazelle]

Anyone exploding when trying to enter Arc L1?

[ivory gust]

Don't land, just get impounded

[worthy gazelle]

I cant get far enough into the hanger to get out though..

[north oyster]

Thanks for the update. I normally have plenty of time and I ensure a very soft controlled landing. I hope to never see the second bug

[marble crater]

I've gotten the 2nd bug twice now lol. May have to just let the ship get impounded

[digital rivet]

My ROC mining laser wont extend and my cursor is stuck in the center of my screen whenever im in the ROC. I've tried relogging, reclaiming the Roc and powering it down and reentering it. does anyone know how to fix this?

[umbral rune]

IMO, due to that timer bug, the timer length should be hotfixed to give some leeway. It'd be easier to increase the duration of red-light phase than sniff out and fix what causes the bug

[spring prism]

How do you get impounded without landing or going into a hangar?

[glacial dagger]

You can hover near the hanger entrance, should start to impound you from there

[spring prism]

Oh, okay

[ivory gust]

Some hangars don't seem to do it, others do

[ivory gust]

Try pressing z for free look?

[worthy scroll]

You find this rock. You've broken it all down and all you have to do is extract the several 100% quant pieces laying around.

An NPC spawns directly over you and starts lighting you up, and you have to abandon it.

[glacial dagger]

Ooooooooof

[worthy scroll]

That's twice today I've been screwed by NPCs spawning right over me. Once on a bunker box mission, someone's ERT spawned right over my head and destroyed my ship before I could load the boxes, and then this just now.

[glacial dagger]

Sometimes it pays to have security

[worthy scroll]

First time mining in years. Didn't expect to find the perfect rock.

Hm. I managed to extract three of the rocks, took them back and refined them, but now my ship is saying there's still volatile cargo aboard, even though it's empty.

[spring prism]

o_O

What's wrong with that timer?

According to it, you should've exploded already, since it's negative

[worthy scroll]

Dunno. I'm having a particularly buggy kind of day today.

[spring prism]

Maybe it'll explode the moment you gather any amount of quant

[worthy scroll]

Funny thing is, I'm specifically not looking for quant, I decided to just go for bexalite since I haven't mined in so long.

[spring prism]

Ah. So P-Types and Obsidian

[worthy scroll]

Yep. Obsidian is what I'm hunting.

[spring prism]

I tried on Aberdeen for a while once, but I wasn't having any luck. The best one I got was a 5% over 2.5 hours

[worthy scroll]

Oh, I had a big bexalite rock earlier, and that ended up turning into an adventure too.

[spring prism]

I won't do the 7+k mass ones though, since I don't like consumables

[worthy scroll]

One chunk had a really high percentage, but the tiniest little corner was sticking up out of the ground and I was in a big storm, so I couldn't stay aimed at it. I decided to just go full crank on it, and then burn away when it blew up. I was probably 2k from it when it went, and it still took me out. I swear it knocked me 10k away, I flew and bounced for a long time. Ship was dead. I sat there for a while trying to figure out what to do, because I had about half a hold of bexalite. Then a 30k hit. I got my ship back, repaired it, and refined.

The weather is way more intense than it was last time I mined. I've had times where I'm full thruster plus boost trying to fight the wind and not even coming close to winning.

It's fun though, definitely keeps it interesting.

[worthy scroll]

I think the game is trolling me now. I've been out an hour since that quant rock and haven't found a single thing worth putting the laser to.

[marble crater]

sounds like a normal mining session

[west tide]

are you in the belt? because lyria is way better. Everyone i talk to gets good rocks in a good time frame, where the belt is full of shit and unscannables

[worthy scroll]

Nah, I purposely went somewhere not normally mined. Been trolled too many times lately. The other trips I found something good in a decent amount of time. That last one, RNG was against me.

That almost perfect quant rock I found was on Calliope.

[marble crater]

tbf that rock may have been 39% but was only 2.48T . I would have skipped it

[umbral rune]

really?

that's about 19.3 scu of quant

that's a decent load for time efficiency

bought a caterpillar for cargo hauls, me likey bigger number

unga bunga big number

[umbral rune]

tru

though there are only 2 ways for me to blow up in this situation

1: I fucked up while flying, which is probably the most likely circumstance since it's like driving a house

2: someone decided today they were bein a dick and killin random people warping around (to my knowledge there is no benefit to this currently other than "hihi funny i killed someone")

currently doesn't work right?

which should probably never be implemented tbh

eeehh

mostly destroyed maybe

[marble crater]

3.18 will make your scu cargo a physical item & will be the start of piracy. right now it's more extortion

[umbral rune]

can you tell when someone is charging up warp?

cause I'd just bide time and warp out every day of the week

well i mean if they're trying to extort they aren't already gunning

it's cute to imagine some dude saying "pay me X money or get blown up"
then warping out on the little shit lol

[marble crater]

most pirates will have a Mantis handy

[umbral rune]

tbh

I don't think they'll ever implement piracy in a working capacity

it'll either be way too good, or trash

[marble crater]

well distortion was working up till 3.16. they'll turn it back on for 3.18

bit of distortion and a Mantis should be some crazy times in the pirate world

it's meant to be used in a wing, has a niche role

it's quite agile but low firepower

cargo ship won't outrun it

[velvet grail]

How is trading these days.. Any better?

[rocky haven]

Hey, where are you guys finding Quant? I'm using the Mole, have flown for 8/10hrs real time, and not found one quant rock since the update.

Even in the belt, nothing.

[jagged saddle]

haha,cute you think you can qt! this here is called a mantis..... now gimme 20% of your take or we blow you........ thats been the quite cool interactions ive had with people trying to make themselves piracy gameloops. quite entertaining to be stopped and held up like that.

[jagged saddle]

known issue, check the Issue Council and contribute to the reports.

[hollow sedge]

What would be best scouting ship for quant rocks, something like M50 Razor or 350R ??

[toxic oyster]

I like something with interior. If you accept a delivery mission you can drop the boxes at quant rocks and share the mission with the miner. That way you basically get markers.

[hollow sedge]

Yea 350R, bit how much better is 350R then Titan then for scouting ??

[spring prism]

Just remember to use tractor beam multi-tool, because if you "Drop" boxes into zero-g, they'll start floating away

And yeah, I like internal storage too. Which is why I downgraded from 315p to Titan by melting the 315p. The 315p has a very "Loose" Cargo Elevator, which I wasn't going to keep dealing with.

The only downside to the Avenger Titan is that you can't close the ramp from the outside.

Maybe that will get fixed with the Cargo Refactor

[rugged axle]

You just walk half way up it. Close then walk out as it's closing...

[small bobcat]

is there any reason I can't sell diamonds at a trading console?

[full mantle]

could be a few mate - demand and supply kicks in - if another player has already sold the max that is required at that spot you wont be able to sell any more until after the next tick

which i think is about 15 to 20 mins

or you are at the wron console

wrong

[round lintel]

Correct me if I'm wrong, a rental Prospector is incapable of mining quant right?

[sharp urchin]

Pretty much. In order to get a worthwhile amount of quantanium, you're going to need upgrades.

[round lintel]

Would a Boremax fix that problem or would I be dumping too much money into gadgets to get my fill of quant

[full mantle]

yea mate - you need to change the mining head or you wont get enough window etc to apply the boost consumables ...

You cant on a renter

[lunar dome]

hey ive been flying a Mole for 2 weeks things is great. But since yesterday My Vtol enginges dont work any more. they turn around but are off so i cant lift up the ship anymore.

Been looking and the net for solutions but none found tried al the standard stuff relogging.

claim/selfdestruckt the ship. even blew up those engine to try to repair them.

[toxic oyster]

worst case you can try a character reset

that usually solves things like this

[lunar dome]

never done that before

ok here goes nothing i guess ( do i lose stuff ?? )

[toxic oyster]

!reset

[wary tusk]

Character Reset

• [FAQ](#📚┃help-faq message) • Perform a Reset (temporarily disabled) •
• Wait at least AN HOUR after reset. The official info on the reset page is OUTDATED.
• *TL;DR by design, you won't lose money, gear, ships, and reputation earned in-game.

*There's still a small risk of losing some items/money after reset. The game is still in Alpha after all.

[lunar dome]

thank you 🙂

[toxic oyster]

np hope it helps

[lunar dome]

me to :p

i pledged the damm ship :p

[toxic oyster]

you will have to put all the components you bought back on your ships though (You still own them, but the ships are using the default loadout after a reset)

[lunar dome]

ill remove the drillheads before resetiing

[toxic oyster]

no need to remove them

the game will do it for you

[lunar dome]

ow ok

[glossy falcon]

hey guys did anyone tried to mine on Lyria today
all rocks are not minable there there is no info on the rocks
and weird thing is i can go through them

[neon moth]

It's an old bug. Non-scannable rocks that don't properly pop in. Old fixes were shooting them with lasers and backing up 5k and coming back in again.

[glossy falcon]

ok thanks i'll try that
but i find that odd that no rock is working in lyria
i tried diffrent servers but still same problem

[neon moth]

It made me quit mining before the wipe. You'd spend time finding a cluster and it wouldn't scan.

[cobalt rivet]

did they nerf the stampede module, it seems weaker this time around

[topaz burrow]

change servers. Happens sometimes when server is dying or about to die
Just noticed you tried server hopping. Dont mind me then

[swift shell]

I think the Mole is still bugged. Ive mined multiple quant rocks and landed on a landing pad. About ten seconds after the soft landing, the quant explodes in the hold for no reason. I had over 10 minutes to spare.

If i land in a hangar it instantly explodes.

[lunar dome]

@toxic oyster thx a million. it worked. can finaly mine again :p

[toxic oyster]

glad I could help

happy mining

[rugged axle]

@swift shell it's not a mole bug. It's a quant bug. Prospector does it too. Pretty sure it's tied to server performance/health. As once it starts happening, it will happen everytime to every player in the lobby

[wintry mango]

Hmm, is there any good site with info about mining in the Aaron Belt? the site i had before seems to have been removed

[ivory gust]

As said above, not specific to the Mole, also affects the Prospector.

The safe bet is to not land when you've got a haul, but rather get your ship impounded by hovering in front of a closed hangar door.

[spring prism]

It also affects the ROC

Some gem rocks also are ghosts

[ivory gust]

Technically possible with a Sabir and a Boremax gadget, but absolutely not worth the trouble

[north oyster]

Since the events have stopped, the Halo has seen a slight improvement in minable asteroids. Still plenty of duds, but quan rocks do show up after a little time.

I've not knocked it out of the park like @rugged axle but I have made a nice impact on my wallet (approx 1M aUEC in one day).

[rugged axle]

I did a about 16 hours in the halo and pulled this :)

[wintry mango]

Niiice

Do you have any good guide for where to go in the belt?

[spring prism]

Just wondering, what's the best gadget complement for Lancet?

[wintry mango]

Depends on where you mine

[rugged axle]

Depends. I personally mine arc l1-hurston. Been thinking about trying a different route though...

[spring prism]

Asteroids

[rugged axle]

None

Your wasting your money on them

[wintry mango]

Asteroid belt generally dont need the activated modules, and the others usualy isnt worth bothering with.
The filter might be interresting if you tend to get to much inert

[rugged axle]

Eh. My Halo loadout is lancet-reiger c3-vaux c3-surge

None of it is needed. But it sure makes it easier and faster

[wintry mango]

What does the vux and reiger do again?

[spring prism]

Vaux reduces Instability, but increases resistance

[wintry mango]

Ah, nothing for moon mining then

[spring prism]

Rieger increases optimal charge window, increases resistance further than Vaux

[rugged axle]

Reiger increases green zone and decreases resistance.

Basically rhe two cancel each other's negatives out. But gives you the bonuses of both

[spring prism]

They both increase resistance, neither decreases resistance

Vaux-C3 has +4% Resistance, Rieger-C3 has +6% Resistance

[rugged axle]

Vaux is -10instability -4 optimal zone

[spring prism]

Guess starcitizen.tools has to be updated then: https://starcitizen.tools/Vaux-C3

[rugged axle]

Reiger is +10 optimal +6 resistance

Last updated 3.16. I guess it changed since.

I know it's a good loadout. With a big green zone on high %'rs and still plenty of power to crack

[wintry mango]

Btw, is this a new bug?

Empty hold after refining (couldnt store ship due to bug), yellow light keep flashing and the timer is negative

[north oyster]

you have my respect

[rugged axle]

@wintry mango I've noticed it if you don't store the ship. It'll go away the first time you mine something else

[wintry mango]

Ah

[rugged axle]

@north oyster my wife didn't respect it though. ;)

[wintry mango]

I always store the ship so havent noticed it

[north oyster]

Do I ever know that story!!

[rugged axle]

Then I came straight off that, and went with yall on the mining op rofl

[wintry mango]

Luckily i also find mining relaxing

[rugged axle]

Mining is my go to after bounties and such. Just sit and chill while breaking rocks

[wintry mango]

I got an cough old joystick with a good wheel for mining power

[rugged axle]

Joysticks make it too easy :). Got dual vkbs.

[wintry mango]

And with old i mean

[rugged axle]

Wait wait...how do you even plug that in?

[wintry mango]

Yes, that IS an serial connector (with USB adapter in my case)

[rugged axle]

Ahhh. Usb adapter

[wintry mango]

That throttle at the base is real swift for poweradjustments

[rugged axle]

Tbf, it's not far off from what I used to play Microsoft flight sim 98 :)

[wintry mango]

Well, it is from that era

[spring prism]

How much delay does it have?

[wintry mango]

None that i notice

(not more than my proper joystick that is)

[spring prism]

Is it a Serial to USB 3 adapter then?

Because I would think USB 1 would make it slow

[wintry mango]

Nah, original USB1

[spring prism]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wintry mango]

Does USB1 have low response rate?

Thought only issue was transfer speed

[spring prism]

Well, it depends on how your USB is set up on your motherboard more so. I've always seen USB1/2 use PCI or directly connected to jumpers/etc. I've only ever seen USB3 connect via SATA3/6

[wintry mango]

Well, the port is USB2 or 3 ofc

Its only the cable adapter that is USB1

[spring prism]

Then that might be why you don't get any lag, lol

[wintry mango]

Yeah, and what confused me

Where would you even find a PC capable of running SC, but with original USB1 ports? 🙂

[spring prism]

it'd be more of a challenge to get someone who has AGP to try and Run Star Citizen

[wintry mango]

Hehe, kinda my point 🙂

[spring prism]

I had USB1 still on a computer in 2011, and it could run games comparable to Crysis/etc.

[wintry mango]

USB1 in 2011? Kinda dont believe you 🙂

[spring prism]

I mean, the computer was nearly 5 years old. I swapped out the GPU and HDD

[wintry mango]

Yeah, but still 🙂

USB2 was released 2000

But i guess it can have been like my PC, mixed ports due to price

[spring prism]

Best Buy likes to keep computers for far longer than they should

[wintry mango]

No experience of Best Buy, i'm Swedish 🙂

[spring prism]

But it was like trying to Mine Quantanium at sufficient rather than Optimal

[rugged axle]

You joke, but after the first break I only do sufficient :)

[worthy scroll]

It is... Sufficient.

[raw shell]

wow mole mining on lyria is so much fun now

even a remote chance of getting a 20% or better of agrecium or laranite would be so nice

[torn scroll]

is it safe to store a ship at a station that has cargo?

[last flame]

Yes.

So long as you're not trying to claim it someplace else. If you want that cargo, you'll need to make sure you retrieve the ship at the station it's stored in

[lyric tusk]

I need to attend ROC training😂

[cobalt rivet]

Saw someone do a video where they ROC mine straight from their cutty, it never left their ship

Pretty clever way of preventing 30k taking your loot

[rugged axle]

yep, fly around, find hadanite. open ramp. mine from cutty. close ramp. on to next rock

[ivory gust]

AFAIK the cargo of the ROC is still lost on a 30k even if it's in the ship. Only thing you can do is transfer all the gems to the ship cargo when you load up again

[cobalt rivet]

Have you tried? @ivory gust f or science

[ivory gust]

StarrStreams has done a lot more ROC mining than pretty much anyone else, and that's what he's said, so I trust his experience.

Honestly, he probably has had a 30k on stream at some point that you could find in his back catalog

[jovial matrix]

What medium sized ships would you all recommend for getting into cargo hauling? Something like the Taurus is a little too large for my liking, so preferably something smaller. I was thinking of getting a freelancer max, is that a good pick?

[cobalt rivet]

Sure

[worthy scroll]

The Taurus is pretty much the first "worth it" ship for cargo hauling right now. Cargo is in a bad place currently, how much you make is determined by how much you can carry. The bigger, the better.

[jovial matrix]

I see

[worthy scroll]

It's just hard to make "good" money with smaller ships. They're easily outclassed by other money making means.

[jovial matrix]

ok

thanks for the advice

[worthy scroll]

If pure money grinding isn't your goal though, if you're just wanting to run cargo for the halibut, by all means, get a MAX.

[jovial matrix]

yeah

[cobalt rivet]

It irks me that the Valkyrie has way less cargo space than the cutty

[worthy scroll]

It's a drop ship, it's internal space is dedicated for butts 🙂

[cobalt rivet]

Have you seen the space in the ship

[jovial matrix]

lmao

[cobalt rivet]

Its 1/4 the c2

Not to mention the valkyrie is waaaay mire expensive

Than the cutty

[worthy scroll]

That's because drop ships are more expensive because they're drop ships. It's called the drop ship tax for a reason.

[marble crater]

Then there's the Prowler with alien drop ship tax

[jovial matrix]

I think Ill get the MAX then. Im not focused on making the most profit, I just want a chill thing to do ingame

[worthy scroll]

Yarp.

[marble crater]

Max is a decent all rounder. Good for roc mining, moving quantainium & light hauling. Interior is in dire need of an update

Raft & Hull A might be ok if you want to RP as a space trucker

[worthy scroll]

I have a feeling the Freelancers are going to get a big overhaul eventually. After seeing the Hull A... It's bound to happen. They just make no sense right now, and they're really starting to nail ship design.

I got a pledge DUR after seeing the Hull A. Because I fully expect it to be reworked, and it's going to be my Pyro ship.

[marble crater]

CiG seem more focussed on new ships so might be a while before the Freelancers get their rework

[worthy scroll]

Oh for sure. I don't expect it for a while.

[cobalt rivet]

The cargo space differencewould have to outweigh the combat capability of the cutty for me to pick another ship over the cutty

[worthy scroll]

The Freelancers are the next step past the Cuttys. They're just much more specialized.

Though, all the Freelancers have more pilot firepower than the Cuttys do.

[round lintel]

Once I've refined ore, the next step is to take it to a sales kiosk right? Do they have to be on a planet or will any admin terminal work

[worthy scroll]

Load it up in a cargo ship and take it to a main city, sell it at the TDD in the city.

[marble crater]

Cutty has 4 * S3 though for the pilot? Same as a Freelancer

[worthy scroll]

Only if you go fixed. Freelancers are naturally gimballed, so you're free to use whatever mode you like. You lose nothing by using auto gimbals.

[marble crater]

That's not more fire-power though

[worthy scroll]

🤷 I never think fixed because I never use fixed.

The Cutty's turret is much better than the Freelancer's. The Lancer turret kinda sucks.

[cobalt rivet]

Cutty has everything good about ir but the maneuvering

But compared to other ships in its class its the most useful

[worthy scroll]

I've never really understood why people say the Cutty handles bad. I think it handles amazing for how big of a ship it is.

It handles way better than the Freelancers. Those things are like flying boulders.

[cobalt rivet]

I used it to terrorize people when im bored

It can fight

Ive juggled multiple gladius

[worthy scroll]

I used to use a Cutty for bounty mission grinding. Never had a problem with it, even doing ERTs.

[ivory gust]

... How long ago?

[marble crater]

thing is if you're after a Hauler, there's better options than the Cutty

[cobalt rivet]

Yes like the c2 :>

[ivory gust]

I highly doubt you were doing ERTs in the Cutlass recently, since the AI upgrade

[cobalt rivet]

<:

[worthy scroll]

I've done atmo bounties in it, so not that long ago.

[cobalt rivet]

You cant do ERTs tho hammies will tear you appart

Vhrt at best

[ivory gust]

3.17 is when the AI got deadly I think? Or was it 3.16

[cobalt rivet]

Unless you just pack all your missiles

And go right for hammy

[marble crater]

3.17 the AI got better and S2 shields got cut in half

and distortion got thrown in the bin

[cobalt rivet]

They buffed the AI a bit too, the cutties are tankier

[worthy scroll]

I'll admit I played very little of .17, I only came back right before .17.2 dropped.

[cobalt rivet]

VHRT is doable with cutty but ERT is too mich imo

[ivory gust]

Even VHRT will be very difficult I suspect

[worthy scroll]

I haven't really messed with bounties since I came back. I tried, but I've done so many of them in the past I instantly get burned out if I try it now.

[marble crater]

although if you get on a 100 player server the AI is braindead lol

[cobalt rivet]

Ert you need like sent, hurricane, scorpius etc

[worthy scroll]

Hm, so ERTs are finally a challenge now?

[marble crater]

I just hope we get proper cargo missions in 3.18. would make the medium haulers more relevant

[cobalt rivet]

Depends

You can cheese erts with torpedos

Ai doesn’t react to radar lock

[worthy scroll]

I used to be the master at cheesing ERT missions lol. Then they fixed it.

I'd do them in the dumbest ships, with no weapons.

[spring prism]

They have to add terminals to stations too. Because the Hull C and later Hulls can't land with cargo.

And right now, all trading is done by landing

The most comfortable hauling ship right now is the C2 hercules, because it flies more like a fighter/smaller ship than it looks.

[worthy scroll]

That ship flies way better than it should.

[spring prism]

It's unlikely the C2 hercules will get a tractor beam with the cargo refactor though, since it's considered a transporter, not a freight

Despite the fact they could easily add one on the bottom of the nose where the gun would normally be on the M2

[marble crater]

hopefully the Cat will get it's tractor beam in 3.18 too

[spring prism]

Taurus already has one on the lower turret

Caterpillar probably will, since it's freight iirc

[worthy scroll]

A lot of ships have them, it's just none are functional.

[marble crater]

Cat has a whole turret room for its tractor beam

[spring prism]

pretty much all freight ships are meant to have tractor beams in some form or another

The RAFT iirc might not have one, because of how loading it works

[worthy scroll]

I'm not sure if the bigger Hull ships will have them either, since the Raft is what loads and unloads them.

[spring prism]

There wouldn't be much room to add one anyway

The Hull series maximizes cargo capacity but with minimal ship size

iirc, the Hull C and D only have a crew size of 2.

The E has up to 4 I think?

[hardy mesa]

That's minimal crew hull c and d also have 2 turrets so 4-5 would be recommended so you have 1-2 for repairs

[spring prism]

Hopefully closer to 3.18 we'll get more cargo/freight ships. Not just "Transport" ships like the C2.

[hardy mesa]

One can hope

[vestal ravine]

Am using my new A2 as a trade ship. Made 3 stops for Agricium but only can buy about 7-9 SCU. At this rate it will take about 20 trips lol.

[charred delta]

is trading even worth it? it doesnt seem worth the time really

[spring prism]

Titanium is fine if you want half the profit of Laranite

Will still give you a load of profit with a C2 over other ships

Laranite caps at about 50,000 units for its stock where you buy it usually, meaning you can't get enough to fill a C2, lol.

[charred delta]

whenever i went to look for laranite it was always at 3011 or something

[spring prism]

Yeah, stock is shared between servers

[charred delta]

i see

yea idk doesnt seem worth the time when I can just go mining in my mole and make a good amount of money that way

[spring prism]

I'd go in a mole, but it'd be solo, and I don't care much for consumables. The only different between Size 2 and Size 1 lasers is the range

[charred delta]

the biggest thing I like about the mole is just being able to carry more quantanium in a run

[spring prism]

Yeah, I suppose

[charred delta]

I've had several runs where I just wouldnt be able to hold all the quantanium in a prospector

• i have people willing to go mining with me every now and then so the mole is pretty nice

[spring prism]

In most cases, I don't get high enough percentages, or I get too many ghost asteroids on my prospector.

[spring prism]

[spring prism]

Aaand 30k

Without warning. No lag/etc. beforehand

Can't collect refined material for some reason

No valid storage

I don't have a big enough cargo hold ship to store 18 SCU

Guess I'll have to rent something

[spring prism]

I'll only get half that profit, since I had to rent a constellation Andromeda at Crusader. Was the only rentable ship with a large enough cargo hold at Crusader

Sadly Mining ships can't hold refined ore.

I would've rented a Freelancer if it showed up on the rental terminal ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vestal ravine]

What's the general payout for the Bex?

[ivory gust]

Just rent a cutlass at the rental terminal downstairs in the refinery...

[spring prism]

I already spent the 70k when I sent this message, since I didn't know refineries had a rental terminal: #industrial-professions message

[ivory gust]

Well, now you know for future reference

[spring prism]

Once I get 1.4 Million, I'll probably just buy the Cutlass Black from new Deal :V

But yes, I'll rent it from now on

[ivory gust]

If buying for hauling, hold out for freelancer max imo

Almost 3x storage of cutlass for less than 2x the cost

[vestal ravine]

I re-bought a Prossie today and like mining Igneous rocks on Magda as a low stress low pay mining adventure. But want to get back into the asteroids also. ROC mining takes to long - never got more than a 20% load before I had to bail out from finger cramps or server crash. But Daymar is awesome to mine at night.

[spring prism]

I'm pretty sure Freelancer MAX Costs over 2 Million, while the Cutlass Black only costs like 1.4

But I suppose

[ivory gust]

Yes? Nearly 3x the space for less than 2x the cost is accurate.

Cutlass can't even carry 2 full refinery jobs, MAX can carry almost 4

Alternately, if you don't care about being able to transport ground vehicles, go for the RAFT--96 SCU (3 full loads) for only 1.8M

[spring prism]

I've heard people joke about the RAFT not being able to QT

Is that just a joke? :V

[ivory gust]

The Argo Cargo isn't the RAFT

The Argo Cargo is the MPUV

That's the one that can't QT

[spring prism]

Oh, ok

[ivory gust]

Raft is the best deal for early ore hauling imo

[fair slate]

It starts out as a cutty... then you got a c2... then you've got something else etc etc lol

[toxic citrus]

Or freelancer max

200k more for quite a bit of extra cargo space

[marble crater]

Max makes a great ground vehicle hauler too

[toxic citrus]

^

[ivory gust]

300k

I called out MAX first, he was unhappy with the markup of the max over the Cutlass, I offered RAFT as middle ground

[toxic citrus]

Eh

If that's what they wanted, sure

MAX is much for flexible compared to a raft as well

[ivory gust]

Which is why I also said "if you don't care about transporting ground vehicles"

[toxic citrus]

Fair

[marble crater]

Cutlass always seems like a great first Quant hauler until you realise you can't even fit 2 refinery orders in. one of the reasons I melted mine

[ivory gust]

The only thing that makes the cutlass even a consideration is that you can rent it in the refinery stations

[north oyster]

Vote the Mule! A trader's true friend https://robertsspaceindustries.com/community/ship-showdown/3203-Drake-MULE-Commercial-Vote-Mule

[strange cove]

can you transfer cargo to some one else yet or naw?

[gentle brook]

Nah

[strange cove]

booooooo, i assume this is a common complaint but for the money they have progress seems slow going

i doubt it but can i give people the right to move cargo in ships i own?

[toxic citrus]

No.

[strange cove]

big sad

mining adventures with friends dashed

[toxic citrus]

Why would you even need to

You can just rent a hauler

[strange cove]

well if my friend and i mined one of us could haul and the other mine

but if he cant access the ships inventory he can put it in the refiner or sell it

not until the mythical orion which i'm still waiting to burn money on

[toxic citrus]

3.18 might allow loading cargo to different ships

But cargo will be physical and movable at that phase if cargo refactor is to come out that patch

But you'll be able to transfer cargo between ships nonetheless

Hopefully...

[strange cove]

i hope so because having a friend helping me mine doesnt help much if i had to be present to refine and sell the cargo

[wary maple]

he would be more help if he was mining with you as the benefits you get from the mining laser you're running stack

or even just scouting for you

[hollow sedge]

@strange cove hauling refined quant it does not havto be immediately after refining, you can fit how many you wont tickets. i have currently 48 of them, but max that I was having was over 140, so its no limit. Houling quant for selling is not important if you saving for some ship, ships cost millions, so that atleast 10 -15 + tickets. But if you talk about that you giving your friend second mining ship that you own, so he can mine, then yea you need to refine when he deliver with your ship, and you need to sell it, its going to your account.

[strange cove]

i havent played in a while since the game wouldnt work for me until i wiped my pc

[full mantle]

well then - Welcome Back..!!

[hollow sedge]

@strange cove if you wont you can join me, I em teaching people every day how to get into mining, even if you dont have ship I have mayn prospectors.

[strange cove]

i have a prospector, much to the dismay of my wallet

i just dont have a good hauler

[hollow sedge]

yea you need Herkules C2 or M2, they around 5M

[strange cove]

i had issues getting that much on account that the game had a habit of crashing when it felt like it regardless of my hardware

[wary maple]

haha, back to that question! well as someone else has already suggested I can thoroughly recommend the Freelancer MAX. If you get her full you're selling over 1 million credits per run down to A18

and she's only 2.1 million

[hollow sedge]

yea we also have problem with 30k erors and game freezeng no mather how good PC you have

One good thing is to rent andromeda when you gonna have enuf for herkules, and with hear you can do 5-6 runs to deliver, you can fit 3.5 tickets for one run in her

[strange cove]

right now im hooked on medieval dynasty even though i should sleep for work

[wary maple]

not sure we can help you with that 🙂

[hollow sedge]

xD yea np, but if you interested to get help in some big team mining, just PM me in discord 👍

[strange cove]

Maybe when I get my day off it's probably a good idea to join a mining group to learn tips and tricks while earning money for a hauler

[hollow sedge]

We starting always like 2 hours from this curent time our mining adventures.

[shell sorrel]

!mining

[wary tusk]

Mining

• [Mining Basics](#976514975646482472 message) • [Ore Refinement](#976514975646482472 message) •

[boreal hull]

Hi all, as a medium beginner in SC, i've bought my second ship, the Freelancer MAX. For now, i just need to do the upgrades so i can travel in space correctly, but does anyone has advices for cargo hauling ? This is the first time for me, and yesterday i've just lost 90 k of cargo because of a crash.

[worthy fog]

!trading

[wary tusk]

Trading

Click [here](#976514975646482472 message) to learn the basics of Trading in Star Citizen.

The bigger the ship, the more you can haul!

[spring prism]

It should keep your cargo as long as you can get back within a minute or so. They added a forgiveness system due to the rampant 30ks. I had one happen when I was mining Bauxilite, and it managed to save the cargo on the prospector.

[boreal hull]

Interesting.. sadly when i crash in space, i need to claim back my ship but the cargo's gone after that

[marble crater]

Crash to desktop has a chance to reload where you were but normally back in a station & you have to claim the ship. Different to a 30K

[spring prism]

If it's stored in "Stanton" through this, like it did with my prospector through the 30k, it won't actually claim, you'll be able to access it as if it were on the station already from any station.

[marble crater]

Crash to desktop is different to a 30K crash

[spring prism]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[marble crater]

30K has a recovery system in place that mostly works

[spring prism]

Mostly

[marble crater]

Crash to desktop often puts you in a station with your ship in a Destroyed State forcing you to claim

[spring prism]

[marble crater]

Lost several Quant runs from it

[royal cairn]

[thin escarp]

@strange cove you dont need to be present to refine just keep mining after you drop off a run

then when you go to haul it have your friend escort you

to protect you from pirates.

i run huge mining ops every week and i have to have escorts now because pirating.

not risking 6 mil going solo

[coarse gyro]

shops sharing purchasing amount is so brutal

makes me want to start waking up super early again

[ivory gust]

If it's his Prospector, doesn't he need to be present to refine?

[thin escarp]

what

@ivory gust

you drop off orders at refinery and keep goin

we don't have to sit there for no reason

[ivory gust]

Yes... He has to be present at the refinery to do that

[thin escarp]

hence

the

drop

off

at

refinery

part

hahaha

ily chris

[spring prism]

Once you put the work order in, the server clears the mining vehicle's cargo completely. Which is why it asks when you don't select some refinable materials if you want to continue.

[ivory gust]

You're completely missing the point. If you loan a Prospector to a friend, they can't drop off at the refinery.

[spring prism]

Yeah, you have to put the work order in, in that case

[thin escarp]

jesus guys

[ivory gust]

That's what Geo was asking about.

[thin escarp]

I wrote half the mining guides here

he said it was his prospector. he said he could have his friend deliver so he could keep mining

I merely explained how he could still use his friend

to escort him when they go haul it. and that he still had to drop the runs at refinery and keep going

[ivory gust]

He also specifically talks about the friend not being able to put it in the refiner

[thin escarp]

yes I said he had to drop the run off at refinery

did I not

[ivory gust]

Nope. You said "you don't need to be present to refine"... When I think "refine" I think "click the button to start it", so you said the opposite.

[thin escarp]

as in you don't have to sit there while it's refining

but go off

[hollow sedge]

As of the current state of 3.17, with an initial investment of about 4M would you say freight is a more profitable option then bounty hunting?

[thin escarp]

no

@hollow sedge

[wary maple]

personally wouldn't go anywhere near freight right now

[hollow sedge]

Yeh thats what I thought

[thin escarp]

cargo is not ina good place

[ivory gust]

4M can get you an Eclipse which will easily do ERTs for very good money.

The only ships worth hauling in are Caterpillar (4.7M) and C2 (4.9M), and even those won't match an Eclipse chaining ERTs

[rugged axle]

Right now, mining and bounties are the only 2 loops I can recommend

[misty coyote]

But.....

I want it to be.... Please...... Fix it so u can haul......

[wary maple]

well if you haul the QT you refined... 🙂

[misty coyote]

..... Hmm.... You win this round....

It's part of the reason I like Prosp mining..... Not necessarily quant.....

The income from NQ ores just doesn't slightly compare.

[ivory gust]

Theoretically we'll see changes next patch with the cargo refactor.

I'm sure it totally won't just be the current awful prices with an added wait time to load cargo on your ship. Nope.

[coarse gyro]

i do freight sometimes in the background while doing work w my connie taurus, ya im only making like 40k a run but works for podcasts

[misty coyote]

And putting your own profits at risk at the same time...

[spring prism]

We also need Trading terminals on stations for ships like the Hull C and larger.

[misty coyote]

There are admins at all stations

For selling....

Or buying scrap.....

Or yummy waste.

You'd have thought you'd be paid for taking waste

[strange cove]

I'd be an escort but my vanguard warden is basic

[coarse gyro]

keeps me on my toes

[spring prism]

Yeah, I think Bexalite... the best non-volatile ore, is 44 UEC/unit, which is half that of Quantanium's 88 UEC/unit

[misty coyote]

If you can find it....

[spring prism]

And find it in good quantities

Best I've ever gotten was 25% on a P-Type Asteroid. Ground bexalite was always 10% or less

[misty coyote]

Saying quant is so expensive, I've found much more than the second class ores

Doesn't make much sense really...

[ivory gust]

It is unfortunate that there aren't better/more complex routes involving stations. Part of the problem is that I think canonically most of the manufacturing is done planetside, not in space--which really doesn't make much sense.

Freelancer (the game) had interesting trade routes two decades ago. Pick up ore from mining station, carry to refinery. Pick up metals from refinery, carry to manufacturing station. Pick up finished goods, carry to a final destination.

[ivory gust]

Unless you're looking in the Halo, where 80% of the Q-types are unscannable!

[misty coyote]

I'm usually on lyria

[spring prism]

Lyria has a very high concentration of Quant rocks for some reason

[misty coyote]

High mass mind...

But I go with a mate

[ivory gust]

Lyria's real advantage is the bug where all clusters are quantanium

[misty coyote]

Is there anything on the road map for industry?

[vestal ravine]

I have been mining non Quant rocks for 4 sessions now. I like it better.

[ivory gust]

In the near future, just the cargo refactor afaik. I've also seen it said that PES is supposed to fix all the problems (like unscannable rocks)

[spring prism]

You can also surge spam it if you're feeling dangerous or confident, but that's if you're Darkwing Duck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=180YLV4b5Nw

[misty coyote]

I do too....but you just can't deny the haul ....

I did 330 in a partial quant load in my RAFT.

70 with roughly the same SCU of NQ

[spring prism]

What does PES mean again?

[misty coyote]

What's your tactic?

[ivory gust]

Persistent Entity Streaming. Allegedly it's their fancy new technology to allow things to persist in the universe better than they do now.

Somehow it's required for something as simple as "remember the state of the ship's landing gear when you log back in after bedlogging"

[vestal ravine]

Ive just done all 4 moons of Hurston. With the Prossy one 4400 k rock can fill it. I have the FLTR module. Only extract the better purple rocks. Each Moon has its own mix but I think Ita will be the best. When all results are finished I will cross compare. I think we need a bigger version of the Prossy still a single seater.

[ivory gust]

I just wish the MOLE didn't have so much wasted space. It could easily have three total seats--a pilot/miner and two dedicated miners. Instead it has 5 seats for some reason.

Common problem in ships around that size...see: Freelancer. I call it "crewflation"

[vestal ravine]

Never helped out in a Mole but I want to. Let them find the Quant, fly it back I just get a share bigger than what I do solo as described.

[rugged axle]

If you can't find quant in the halo, your doing it wrong.

And I agree lou. We prospector should be light mining, mole should be heavy mining. A single seater with 64scu(MAYBE 2 seats) should be medium mining. Orion will be capital mining. Give us an in-between of prospector and mole

[ivory gust]

You can find quant in the halo, but it heavily defends what the server you're on is like. Some servers it's nothing but unscannables.

[rugged axle]

Lou, not necessarily. A good mole group has scouts running as well. So yes, you get less profit per load. But typically many more loads

I mean, I have no issues finding good quant rocks in the halo....no matter what server.

[vestal ravine]

What a Prospector style ship with two independent style stations?

[rugged axle]

That's kind if what I mean. A 2 seater miner. Pilot and copilot both have lasers. Give it 64scu. And call it the mini mole

[vestal ravine]

Also could carry a ROC. I keep overflying gems cant go after them.

[rugged axle]

Eh, with space for a roc would make it the same size/bigger than mole.

[spring prism]

The Prospector doesn't have physicalized cargo to transfer to

[ivory gust]

Post video pls

[spring prism]

Nor would a "Bigger" version

[rugged axle]

Sure let me do that real quick. Cause I definitely record all my mining runs....

[vestal ravine]

Doesn't need it if it strictly mines as now...

[spring prism]

Then there's no reason for the ROC

[ivory gust]

Don't need to record all of them, just interested to watch you get incredibly lucky repeatedly

[rugged axle]

I mean. If you scroll up or search by my name. You'll see I pulled 6mil in basically 1 day of game time. All from the halo

[vestal ravine]

Yea but I like Roc mining all this new ship would need is a Nomad style ass end.

[ivory gust]

Yes, that kind of thing happens, especially if you were on the same server and had a good one. But I find it hard to believe that you're not running into the same unscannable problem at all that everyone else is

Would be curious to see if your technique differs in any interesting way from what most are doing

[rugged axle]

I'm not saying there aren't ANY unscannables. I'm saying you can still make plenty of cash.

[vestal ravine]

I'm doing these runs in about 55 minutes. Next Im going in the Halo for a Non Quant run and see whats going on.

[spring prism]

P-Type for Bexa, M-Type for Laranite

[ivory gust]

Sure, but there have been a few trips I've done where I've gone for 45+ minutes scanning without finding a single thing worth mining, so your "if you can't find quant in the halo, your[sic] doing it wrong" intrigues me.

If you're consistently finding stuff worth mining in a reasonable timeframe regardless of server, I'd like to see if there's a technique difference that potentially changes things.

[spring prism]

I took about an hour on my last halo run in band 5, failed to get any Q-Type with more than 15% Quant

[rugged axle]

Couple rocks from the other night. And what I ended up with

[spring prism]

Well, I applaud your luck over my terrible luck

[rugged axle]

I will be honest, one of those loads were from the mole, but was still in the halo. Was a cluster with 3 good rocks

[spring prism]

Maybe it's because of the band 5 section I'm in. The CRU-L1 section seems to have high amounts of ghost rocks.

[ivory gust]

I mean, individual pictures of rocks don't mean anything since I also have found great rocks there, it's just that sometimes there's nothing

[rugged axle]

I mine arc l1 to hurston

[ivory gust]

Doesn't seem specific to region, I also mine near ARC L1 and tons of unscannables as well

I've started to just bedlog to switch servers if I'm hitting too many unscannables and that seems to help

[rugged axle]

There's really no pleasing you....literally come mine with me I guess...since the only way to believe is obviously for you to see it first hand

[spring prism]

In before Death gets no ghost rocks, but Chris sees the rock Death finds as a ghost rock.

If that happens, that would be an extremely useful bug report

[ivory gust]

Thus the request for a video

I have seen a couple reports of ghost rocks suddenly un-ghosting when someone else shows up

[rugged axle]

Once again, I'm not saying there aren't ghost rocks.... I'm saying you ignore the ghosts at 12km, and move on

[ivory gust]

Sure, which I do. How long does it typically take you to find something worth mining, and how long is the longest you've scanned for without finding something worthwhile?

[vestal ravine]

Take care all gotta run! Keep it real!

[rugged axle]

Just finding the rock? Or mining it as well? Typically 15-20 minutes to find one. Obviously sometimes longer, sometimes shorter.

The first rock I posted up there was straight out of qt. Popped at 11km from where I came out. (No doubt this is an outlier situation)

For that refinery list, I had about 10-12 hours of playing time invested. Split between 2 days and 3-4 servers

The bigger bug for mining. Is quant instantly exploding the moment you land. THAT one makes it hard to make money

[spring prism]

What's your threshhold on ghost rocks? Sometimes I can go 25+ of them

[ivory gust]

Okay, so that's average of like 1 hour per load, which seems reasonable with the scan times I've normally been seeing.

Maybe I'm just salty because my last couple of trips (including one with my wife where I was trying to show her mining there) were largely empty with long scans of nothing

[rugged axle]

I dont understand the question Ean. Threshold as in, how many do I see?

[ivory gust]

Just get impounded, don't land

[spring prism]

Yeah, how many before you hop server

[rugged axle]

I dont server hop. I qt 200-300km and back at it

[spring prism]

Also, hover close to a closed hangar bay door without calling ATC, and you can get impounded, making it store quicker

[rugged axle]

And it really just depends on when I want to call it...

[spring prism]

Forgot how many seconds it is though.

[rugged axle]

If I go 10-15 minutes without seeing a good q, I'll jump further in.

[ivory gust]

45 seconds is the timer but it takes close to a minute to actually get impounded

[ivory gust]

Well now, that's a neat trick.

Scan showing ghost rocks->Get out of prospector seat and get back in-> Ghost rocks are gone

Anyone else able to give this a shot and see if it's the same for you?

[jovial matrix]

So I tried a bit of hauling last night, and I’ve got a couple questions

Is there a way to the see the amount of one commodity a certain place has without going ingame and flying there

And am I right I’m assuming that selling at stations and cities is better than at ground locations, because I was able to sell a full haul at a station, but when selling at ground outposts and such, it took three locations to sell my haul

[spring prism]

all locations should have the same price for a commodity

Exa: https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Quantainium (Raw) (Don't sell raw btw. Refining Doubles it.)

[ivory gust]

No

[ivory gust]

Only true for refinable commodities--other commodities sometimes have different prices

[jovial matrix]

Damn

[spring prism]

Yeah, I suppose Scrap is one of them... https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Scrap

[ivory gust]

It's also a little dynamic, see the "Commodity Price Alerts" journal entry that pops up sometimes

[jovial matrix]

And what about this?

[ivory gust]

!tradetools shows you the maximum capacity of locations and how much they "refresh" that capacity each minute, but that capacity is shared across all servers.

In general, stations and cities will be able to buy more than ground outposts

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[jovial matrix]

Awesome thank you

[plush maple]

what have i missed,why is tf2 the banner? lol

[jovial matrix]

Wait it is lmao

[spring prism]

Check #star-citizen

[last kayak]

Hi I got a question about mining/box mission

I want to prospector mining and scout with my avenger but when I find a rock how will I mark it to come back with my prospecter and how will I mark my prospectors to not lose it

I was told a box mission could help because box have a markers on then that show at any distance you are

What are those box mission and do they have a timer?

I know the salvage black box from crash ship wreak is mark at all distance but I think the mission got a timer

[ivory gust]

Don't do that. Just scout with your prospector

Unless you're scouting for someone else, there's no reason to scout with a different ship first

If for some reason you want to anyway (really, don't do that), the missions you're looking for are in the "Delivery" category--you pick up a box from somewhere and deliver it elsewhere. They don't have a timer, but the mission goes away when you log out

[last kayak]

Why don’t do that

The prospectors is hella slow

[ivory gust]

It's a whole lot faster than needing to go back to a station or city and switch to a different ship when you find something

[last kayak]

But I’m not going back to a a station

Landing both on the ground

[ivory gust]

So each time you log in you're going to fly one of your ships to the mining area, kill yourself to get back to someplace you can spawn the ship, fly back to that same area, and trade off that way?

That is definitely not faster than just scanning with the prospector and immediately mining something good when you find it, but if you want to do it that way, the missions you're looking for are in the Delivery category

[worthy scroll]

There is a valid reason to do it like that, you can scout much faster. After just spending over an hour in my Prospector and not finding anything worth mining, I'm tempted to do that myself.

[last kayak]

Exactly what I did

Prospector took too long

Took a fast ship

10 minutes later

6k mass 48% quant

[worthy scroll]

Still though, RNG is gonna RNG.

[ivory gust]

Sometimes you scan for a while and don't find anything, that's how it goes. Adding 10+ minutes of overhead to every run for ship switching is not really the right answer to that imo

[cosmic sparrow]

anyone mining right now? I 'm about to rent a prospector and could use some help breaking bigger rocks

[ivory gust]

Note that a rental Prospector can't be used for quantanium--as long as you're planning on going for other ores go for it

[cosmic sparrow]

and why can it not be used?

and when did this change?

[cobalt rivet]

Cant solo mine, its incredibly hard

Cant upgrade head

[cosmic sparrow]

I know its hard, which is why I asked if anyone was actively mining

[ivory gust]

Except that you're not asking for someone to help you, you're asking for someone to do it for you. The stock head doesn't have the resistance or instability reduction needed to be useful for quantanium

It is technically possible to do it using gadgets, but it's not worth the time, you'd make more money just renting a ROC and Cutlass and doing that

[cosmic sparrow]

I have a cutty, but never made enough doing ROC mining

[cobalt rivet]

Servers take a shit too often for ROC mining to be lucrative by any stretch of imagination

Id rather take a rental prospector and mine the next best mineral

[cosmic sparrow]

they didn't change anything with the mineral payouts, did they?

[ivory gust]

Nope, Quant is still 2x the next best

[cobalt rivet]

Yep

But quant not as easy to find in large quantity anymore

[timid kayak]

trying my hand in trading, but I'm confused how people are making big money off of this

[west tide]

Need like a C2

[worthy scroll]

Gotta have a big ship. Caterpillar or C2.

[glacial dagger]

Pretty much

Otherwise your having to play risky with drug running

[west tide]

What's drug running

[glacial dagger]

Exactly as it says. Running still like SLAM, WiDoW and Revenant tree pollen

Go careful with buying, as not many places can buy much, so you wont have a great time trying to sell loads

[worthy scroll]

Someone talked me into finally trying halo mining, I've always been a moon guy.

Maybe I'm a belt guy now.

[glacial dagger]

Good, gooooood

Fun right 😄

[worthy scroll]

It's definitely easier and faster. Both of those were done in less time it usually takes me to find a decent rock on a moon. And no storms to fight (though I consider those kind of fun).

[glacial dagger]

No storms, no gravity, and most importantly, NO PIRATES/AI/GREIFERS...

[worthy scroll]

Yeah I've had to deal with those plenty lately. More in the last few days than the last few years total.

[ivory gust]

Oye, you Beltalowda now

[worthy scroll]

Mi have seen the light

[plush maple]

Id like to do belt mining but i have had lots of issues with rocks being unscannable there

it just ends up being frustrating for me

[ivory gust]

When you're seeing lots of unscannables, try getting out of your seat and sitting back down. That seems to cause the unscannables to disappear for me...

[plush maple]

huh, thats interesting- ill have to test it out

[cyan mountain]

I gotta try this out

I only went to the halo once

[worthy scroll]

I've come across some, but the ease and speed of finding good ones is still leaps and bounds better than moons.

[plush maple]

i still say lyria has given me better results but maybe ill give it another go

[vestal ravine]

Lyria is solid but I am trying the Halo later tonight when the booze fades back.

[mossy radish]

what trade routes should i run beside laranite?

[hollow sedge]

Hi could someone suggest a really ez route to mine bexalite? Like where to mine it, then sell it, etc

[worthy scroll]

There aren't "routes" for mining. You go to the place that has the potential to spawn what you're after, and then you hunt for it.

You can find places (moons and such) for the different nodes, and what those nodes contain on this site.

https://sc-trade.tools/home

[spring prism]

Use the SC Trade Tools link above, click "Trading" and go to "Trade routes." Choose the ship you want to trade with, and then the starting amount of UEC.

After that, I'd recommend changing this bit here, which should default to 0 normally. Setting it above 2000 will instantly remove Laranite, as that's the maximum refresh rate for it with buying.

I'd also recommend setting "Allow wait times" off if you really are impatient. The wait times are intended to show how long it will take for a shop to restock after having bought everything. Usually meant for when the shop already has full stock and you just went there and bought/sold everything you could. It doesn't take into account server stock already. That has to be done by you, the player.

Because you don't want to do Laranite, you will get less than half the profit over time... that is... if Laranite was full stock, in comparison to said Laranite.

[vestal ravine]

Can the Aaron Halo jump out distances chart be pinned? Cannot find it.

[mossy radish]

thanks for the tips

i guess its astatine?

[spring prism]

https://cstone.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes

I have it bookmarked

[vestal ravine]

Okay I found the charts but did not find any asteroids. Ran out of time will try later. Thanks for the link.

[coarse cape]

so if i dont want to quant mine whats good ore to look for when bulk mining

[drowsy zodiac]

alright y'all, what's the deal with mining? I mined a lot before the patch, and nothing is scanning for me now.

[cobalt rivet]

Buggy game is buggy, powercycle and continue scanning, if still bugged assume server has turned to shit and find new server

[drowsy zodiac]

i've been on new servers, i've gotten out of the ship and back in, stored it and retrieved it, nada, of all the rocks only 1 was scannable

[cobalt rivet]

Asteroid or ground

[drowsy zodiac]

asteroid, aaron halo

[cobalt rivet]

Halo bugged to shits

Do lyria

[drowsy zodiac]

tried lyria too got nothing

feels like the broke the one thing i enjoyed in this game

[cobalt rivet]

Rip

[ivory gust]

What scanning method are you using?

Interesting that getting out of the ship and back in didn't change anything for you

[drowsy zodiac]

mining mode hit tab, adjust angle as i fly by

[gaunt fiber]

There is a bug, some rocks will not scan, but it’s only in the belt. Mining on Lyria rocks should scan. If they don’t for you, it might be a server related issue. Sorry @drowsy zodiac sounds frustrating.

[ivory gust]

Can you elaborate on "adjust angle as I fly by?"

If you're not hitting the signals with a narrow enough followup scan, you won't get details from them.

If the blue cube turns to a white diamond, then the scan hit it narrow enough, and if there's no details at that point, then yeah it's unscannable

[sleek torrent]

After refining, what’s the best way to find out where to sell for the highest yield?

[ivory gust]

The only places to sell are the 4 major cities, and they all give the same price

Just go to whichever you like best, or whichever's closest, as long as Orison isn't the closest

[jovial matrix]

Lol

[sleek torrent]

Great thanks

[spring prism]

That's why I'm considering going back to mining around microtech/hurston region

[dry saddle]

Y'know, for my first time ever, I'd say this is decent

[gentle brook]

Willing to scout for a small cut

[coarse cape]

ty

[wary maple]

also @coarse cape this might help on the next possible question of where

[strange cove]

if you mine microtech were are the closest places to refine /sell

[toxic citrus]

MicroTech

NB ofc

But obviously you'd have to refine it and such

Or sell the unrefined ore to a refinery

[strange cove]

can microtech refine?

[toxic citrus]

no

You'll have to go to a R&R

[wary maple]

I would assume if you're mining at Microtech, Mic-L1 would be the closest refinery

[vestal vector]

Prospector mining is FUN! started today but all at stock..

Planning to upgrade tomorrow

I read that the lancet mining head is recommended for quantanium, any other 'absolute must-haves'? Or is it as simple as slapping on a Lancet and i can mine quantanium + everything else?

[wary maple]

The Lancet MH1 is the only must-have, but you'll want some modules too as they just make life easier

there are 2 types of Modules: Active and Passive

Active you manually fire while mining and you have a limited number of uses before you have to buy and replace them. Passive just sits there - no replacing required

something to bear in mind is that if/when you have to claim your Prospector you will lose all your Modules

[crimson oak]

I recommend using the mining consumables Surge, Stampede and either Focus III or Vaux-C3, or a combination of the above.

my standard fit is 1 Surge and 2 x Vaux-C3 for quant mining but ya might wanna start off with surge, stampede and an optimum

[wary maple]

I run double Reiger and single Focus and find I can crack anything found in the Halo Asteroid Belt, but have to run with a friend if down on a planet

[worthy scroll]

I just use passives, one FLTR-XL and two Focus III.

[wary maple]

Something I didn't mention was upgrading your jump drive to something faster to give you a little bit more time as QT mining has a time limit before you go kaboom. Though it's not essential if you do it right (don't pick anything up until you've cracked everything) you should have plenty of time

[vestal vector]

Dayum thx for info really appreciate it

You too @crimson oak

[wary maple]

no probs, here to help 🙂
The best thing to go mining with is a buddy, the Mining heads and Modules stack between players. If you're both running Lancets you can QT in your sleep

[rugged axle]

Mole with 2 lancets, 1 helix, and 6 reiger c3. Makes quant easier to mine than the other ones lol

[cyan mountain]

i wanna give the halo another shot

im at cru l1 rn, where do i need to qt to reach it?

[raw shell]

ARC L3, then I drop out about 12.5ish away

[cyan mountain]

alr thanks

i wont need any fancy modules, right? max size is 5k

[wary maple]

any other modules in there? by my count you've got 3 spare slots - just wondering as a mate has a Mole and has asked me before what Modules to run

I said Reigers and the FLTR's

[rugged axle]

Depends on what you want. Typically run 3 xtr xls.

You can run fltrs. Depending on your breaks they can help

The xtrs and reigers is apparently what's pretty common for it. Just to give you some extra time. If I'm soloing the mole in the belt, I'll move thr lancet to Laser 1 with a surge and 2 reigers.

[wary maple]

cheers, I'll report that back

[cerulean tree]

if i dont want any actives, which all passive should I go for?

[wary maple]

I run pure passives: 2x Reiger C3, 1 Focus III
and Brunnen-Gee said he ran: 1x FLTR-XL, 2x Focus III

but it's what you think you need help with personally. I love having the largest optimal green zone I can get away with but it is slow to get the initial crack, other like to crack things faster

[cerulean tree]

I’d rather have a bigger green zone tbh

so 2 reiger c3 1 focus III

[wary maple]

that would do it. I find I can crack anything in the Halo with that as they max out at 5122 mass, though I'm not gonna lie, it is very slow for the initial crack. Anything bigger than that that you find on a planet you won't be able to touch solo

[frosty hawk]

does anyone know if and or how i can replace half used consumable mining modules in the vehicle loadout manager?

[cerulean tree]

I dont mind not being able to crack bigger rocks, ill find a new one thanks for the info

[delicate girder]

Anyone had a problem with bed logging at hauling product locations (such as HDMS-Bezdek) while waiting for more product to haul? I'm kinda scared to do it.

[frosty hawk]

i used to do it a couple patches ago.. i was in a C2.. no problems really j when you log back in your landing gear will not be out so you will have to re take off and land back on pad

[glacial dagger]

There's a chance your ship will spawn with it's landing gear up or worse, your ship spawns inside the planet

[delicate girder]

What about bed logging in the air above the site?

[frosty hawk]

make sure you are in space or you will crash to the ground

[glacial dagger]

That can work

[frosty hawk]

NOOO

[glacial dagger]

Personally, i would say go to an OM instead

[frosty hawk]

must be in space.. all systems are shut off in a bed log

[glacial dagger]

Takes a little longer but much less risk of getting bugged

[glacial dagger]

Not true, engines can stay on

As do shields and weapons

[frosty hawk]

try your luck then, dont trust the games mechanics enough yet.. since he is hauling cargo he prolly has a decent amount of money in his hold.. wouldnt risk it myself

[delicate girder]

Yeah, I'll try a few times without risking lots of cargo first ... if I do at all.

[frosty hawk]

good plan my man

or woman

[delicate girder]

It's crazy that the least risky of the best ways to make money if the bounty hunting!

[frosty hawk]

lol yeah, def not much overhead risk which is kinda funny

[final zenith]

Anyone know if roc mining on the night side of daymar is easier on the cooler?

[glacial dagger]

Easier on the cooler?

[final zenith]

I've read that the roc has a tendency to overheat on daymar and you have to watch "the cooler"

[cyan mountain]

i had better luck in the halo

much better actually

[final zenith]

can't afford a prospy yet.

[ivory gust]

Just repair the ROC any time you sell gems and you'll be fine

[wary maple]

I don't think it makes a difference I used to ROC mine on Aberdeen and Arial where you need the Pembroke Armour to survive and never had a ROC overheat

[ivory gust]

How long did you have one out for without repairing or reclaiming? It should happen after around 3-4 hours

3-4 hours of usage, that is... It's fine when sitting turned off

[fervent sedge]

Can a a2 Hercules hold more cargo then a msr

[inland kraken]

hey there, is Altruciatoxin illegal to transport?

[fervent sedge]

I need some help doing cargo runs I’m new to the methods

[inland kraken]

same

[fervent sedge]

Interesting

[inland kraken]

ill let you get help first since im not even home yet

i wont flood chat anymore with my nonsense

[cyan mountain]

i was mining a rock

it filled the optimal bar

and it didnt crack

after 5 minutes

[quiet night]

have they changed the quant timer ?

[north oyster]

no, but how you fly makes a difference

[wary maple]

Yes, A2 holds 216, while the MSR holds 114

[north oyster]

C2 is the largest carrier in the game at this point. Holes a ton more

[fervent sedge]

I don’t have a c2

[normal ravine]

are there roc mining guides here?

[north oyster]

Ah, my apologies ... A2, right

[fervent sedge]

I have a a2. A msr. And a aurora

[quiet night]

odd, never crashed bumped or banged on landing, got to lift in hanger and it went pop, no warning or anything -.-

[fervent sedge]

I don’t have enough to buy a c2

Also I don’t even know how to trade so I can’t make money lol

[north oyster]

I have had random explodes, one time dropping out of QT and sudden BOOM

[quiet night]

yeah very odd, maybe just a random thing, oh well lol

[north oyster]

Feather landings are your friend when carrying raw Quan

[wary maple]

safest might be to deliberately get it impounded

[north oyster]

Those mining Lyria are more pressed for time. For me, mining the Halo leaves me with plenty of time and no need to rush at all

[wary maple]

well I was thinking less about the time and more about not landing at all

[north oyster]

I prefer less expense and cost on the bottom line. Impound is a few more credits than I like to pay

[wary maple]

yeah, I don't do it either, it was a solution to a problem if even feather landing were not working for Step Bro

[north oyster]

I would hope that is a one-off because something like your ship going boom from a standard landing with a load of Quantainium isn't something I'd like to be a normal thing.

[cerulean tree]

I heard its a server bug so if someone blows up even once everyone on the same server will keep experiencing it until it 30ks

[wary maple]

ouch! not come across that nasty bug yet, time for a server hop then 🙂

[cerulean tree]

I’ll be announcing it to the server just in case its true lol

[normal ravine]

How much do you guys make from roc mining?

Per cluster

[ivory gust]

Don't land, just get impounded. It's the only safe bet given how common this particular bug is.

[ivory gust]

Depends on the cluster? Hadnite is 275/unit, each deposit can maybe be 15-40 units, each cluster can be 1-14 deposits

[ivory gust]

Given how common this bug is, it's absolutely worth it to get impounded.

[north oyster]

is it that common? Is there an IC ticket on this?

[ivory gust]

5000 for the impound (and then only if you actually are using the ship again within 15 minutes--no cost for last run of the day or if you're taking a break) is such a tiny fraction of the profit from a load, that even if you lose only 1 out of every 40 loads to this bug, you're better off impounding.

People have been reporting it constantly since 3.17.2 landed

https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-39766

[wary maple]

hard to say as they're all different sizes, but I can say that a full ROC of Hadanite is 220,000

[normal ravine]

How can you tell how full your roc is?

[ivory gust]

In mining mode, middle-left of the HUD

It shows your cargo

[north oyster]

Ok, thanks for sharing. I contributed it the ticket

[normal ravine]

cool

[north oyster]

Is this a Lyria/ARC-L1 thing I wonder. I need to look back to the contributions. Not see this at CRU-L1

[normal ravine]

How long does it usually take to max out on cargo?

[quiet night]

ty for the info, never had it before but i'll remember that next time

[ivory gust]

There are some reports of it happening on CRU L1 as well

[ivory gust]

45min-2 hours depending on luck

[normal ravine]

Does daymar still have the most hadanite?

[wary maple]

I think it's Aberdeen

[north oyster]

I would recommend selling off when a little over half full. You can sell at any outpost. Also, take the ROC out of the ship and reclaim it for a fresh ROC

[ivory gust]

Daymar never had the most hadanite. Aberdeen is the best (but requires a Pembroke), followed by Arial (which you can get away with just a full Aril suit). Daymar is a fairly distant 3rd

[wary maple]

though Daymar is still very good

[ivory gust]

Don't need to reclaim the ROC, just park on empty pad and repair

[north oyster]

mileage may vary

[ivory gust]

Daymar was pretty terrible for me when I went this patch. Switched to Arial and haven't looked back, been getting consistent 5+ hadanite clusters on Arial

[wary maple]

I've always gone to Aberdeen\Arial

[normal ravine]

I was watching a hawkes gaming vid and he mentioned daymar so it must have changed to aberdeen

I think there is a pembroke suit in lorville so I might move to the hurston system for this

[north oyster]

I'm glad they "fixed" Arial, it use to be a mess to mine

[normal ravine]

do you guys prefer arial or aberdeen?

[ivory gust]

It's still very rocky and can be difficult to find good places to land the best ROC mining ship (the Carrack)

[wary maple]

Try HUR L1 or L2 save yourself from the city run

[normal ravine]

Hur l1 doesn't have the helmet

[ivory gust]

Daymar's advantages were that it's easy to find landing spots, you don't need a special suit, and it doesn't have the weather problems of Arial or Aberdeen

[north oyster]

LOL, Carrack best? Yeah. But never a problem with my MAX 🙂

[normal ravine]

What do you guys think of the cutlass black?

[wary maple]

yeah I use a MAX too, amazing from ROC mining

[north oyster]

great entry ship

[ivory gust]

Carrack is the best because you can set it as your respawn so when you die after forgetting to put your helmet back on after having a drink, you respawn right there instead of needing to fly back

[wary maple]

huh, the universal item finder says it's there

[north oyster]

Swiss Army Knife of SC

[normal ravine]

Is it good for roc?

[north oyster]

Good at everything, great at nothing

yes, it works

[normal ravine]

good

[north oyster]

Takes just a little time to get use to the loading on the ramp

[wary maple]

sounds like you speaking from experience there! 😆

[normal ravine]

I heard the roc laser breaks easily

what breaks it?

[north oyster]

No, the cooling

[ivory gust]

Cutlass is great for ROC and you can rent it cheap too. If you're buying just for ROC mining, consider a Nomad (cheaper and smaller) or Freelancer MAX (more expensive but more useful for later hauling)

[north oyster]

There is a collection bug

[normal ravine]

I got the cutlass as a starter

[north oyster]

good choice

[wary maple]

very good choice!

[normal ravine]

I just upgraded from the titan this morning

[mild pumice]

yet to find any asteroid I can mine in 45 mins, should I just give up? (in Aaron Halo Band 5)

[north oyster]

I started with the Titan but later CCU'd to the Cutty

[ivory gust]

Yeah, sometimes the extraction laser fails to actually work, but you can fix it by doing a full shutdown/restart or (at worst) getting out, pulling a gem out of the cargo bay, sticking it back in

[north oyster]

are you using active angle ping?

[normal ravine]

I'll miss how the titan looks though

[ivory gust]

If you're seeing lots of unscannables, try getting out of your seat and getting back in to get rid of them

Also make sure you're using the right scanning method

[mild pumice]

@north oyster I'm just pointing the laser at the rock, nothing coming up

[ivory gust]

That's...not how you scan in the belt

[mild pumice]

After I've pinged and got a marker obviously lol

[ivory gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgh-bqFlo_c

After finding a marker, bring angle down to 2 degrees and ping the marker again

It tells you what the asteroid type is (or if it's unscannable) from 12km away

[north oyster]

Red Monster SC has an excellent one also

[ivory gust]

Just grabbed that one since it's super short

[mild pumice]

So they've changed it now and 90% are duds?

[north oyster]

couple of things about the Duds. Player Cap increase, server health, events, etc

The dud issue will only be solved with server meshing. However, your results are not what is current

[mild pumice]

I'll watch the vid but was mining lots in previous patches

Cheers for the tips!

[north oyster]

no, Active Ping super charges your mining

I made over 1M aUEC in 4 quick trips

[ivory gust]

Also, again, if you're seeing lots of duds around you, try getting out of the seat and sitting back down. For me, for some reason, that causes the duds to vanish

[graceful sand]

best place for quant?

[ivory gust]

Mining it, refining it, or selling it?

[graceful sand]

best place to find it

[ivory gust]

Lyria or the belt

[graceful sand]

ive heard ppl say all sorts of dif moons

is this truly best one

[wary maple]

while others may have more chance of spawning QT, Lyria and the Belt are the best (in my experience) for actually finding them as you can work it out from 12km away

[ivory gust]

What others have you heard

[graceful sand]

heard microtech & the moons surrounding it were best for mining it

[ivory gust]

If you're not interested in using the shortcut scanning methods, then yes those will be best

[wary maple]

I use Red Monster Gaming Cheat sheets and they confirm that BUT you'll have a harder time finding them

[ivory gust]

Lyria has a bug where all clusters are quantanium, so if you see that something is a cluster of rocks from a distance you know it's quant

[wary maple]

with all the MT moons you have to get up close and personal with the rocks before they tell you their secrets, while Lyria and the Belt you know from 12km

[ivory gust]

For Lyria I just wish I could tint the windows of the Prospector, or wear sunglasses... It's blindingly bright

[long linden]

Has anyone else have problems going to the spacestations?

[wary maple]

you'll need to be more specific I think

[sleek torrent]

Hey guys. So as far as loading refined cargo on a ship. The Connie andromeda is what I have, am I able to load that cargo and sell it with my ship? I@ unclear as to what ships can hold refined cargo

[long linden]

I cant reach the space stations when I qt

[wary maple]

Any ship with enough SCU space for that specific job, connie's should be able to get a couple on at least

[worthy scroll]

As in, it drops you off too short, or you can't plot the jump because you run out of QT fuel?

[long linden]

It drops me off to short

[sleek torrent]

Thank you

[worthy scroll]

Once you jump to the Lagrange point you have to jump again to the station. That's normal. Plot it on the map by selecting the station itself, not the Lagrange point.

[mild idol]

So if you have a hold full of quant and server 30Ks I presume its not going to throw you back into a almost ready to explode ship right?

[long linden]

I have tried everything to get there, been playing this for a year 🙂

[worthy scroll]

It'll spawn you back at your last landed place, and your ship should be stored there. 30k recovery should restore your mined inventory. (There's a waiting period for this, but I don't remember how long it officially is, I wait 15m.)

[mild idol]

OK I'll wait and then try refining

[long linden]

I use to stay at the space station as my waypoint

[worthy scroll]

You can't simply jump again to the station? Open the map, select it, map the jump, and go. There is always a little bit of a fly in distance, say 20km or so (ballpark).

[mild pumice]

I done good got a full load of inert materials to sell to Kevin Costna

[long linden]

I get stopped around 31,999 km's away from the station. This never happened before the new update

[wary maple]

can you jump anywhere else?

is it just to ths one station that it's not working?

[worthy scroll]

You should be able to jump again at that distance.

I don't remember the specific numbers.

[mild idol]

@long linden Way points for Lagrange points definitely are further out. I think it used to drop you in at like 100-200KM out then you jumped again. Now its like 30000K and then 50K out

[long linden]

This is the first time since update it wouldn't let me go there

[fervent sedge]

What’s the best thing to buy and sell

I have a 216 scu ship

[worthy scroll]

The update did move stations farther from the Lagrange entry when you jump in. This is why I said you need to map to the station itself, because there will be another jump.

[ivory gust]

Is it telling you "too close", or what's the issue? Why can't you quantum to it?

[long linden]

I have tried that, says I'm to close

[ivory gust]

Post screenshot

[worthy scroll]

Then you're within the normal fly-in distance. This has been a normal thing for years.