industrial-professions

[onyx crow]

medium mixed with heavy would probably work as well

[fluid sun]

been a long time since i tried and i think aberdeen was hot and hard to navigate?

[onyx crow]

aberdeen is very hot, pembroke suit is an absolute must

but there is more hadanite there as well

[fluid sun]

gotcha, anyone ever take a vehicle into the caves? there seems to be a much higher concentration of mineables but hard to navigate if at all possible

[onyx crow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/991370447545454652/996074745818792066/unknown.png

[ivory gust]

What issues?

[fluid sun]

and if not a roc, maybe a hoverbike? do they have storage? wondered how well that would work

[onyx crow]

I don't think you'll get a vehicle in the caves

maybe a bike

[zenith maple]

you can

well, depend on the cave

[fluid sun]

some cave missions say you can take small vehicles in

[zenith maple]

but its even part of the advertisement for the ROC

[onyx crow]

ah ok, disregard my last

[zenith maple]

the ROC-DS is not the best in caves, just from having a turning radius of a moon

[fluid sun]

thanks, might give it a go then

[ivory gust]

ROC DS is not the best for anything

[safe urchin]

Anyone wanna be a mining scout for me? In a prospector but i'll pay. Just dont feel like looking for rocks as much today lol

[spring prism]

Rocks are having issues from time to time not being able to be scanned. IE: A white diamond appears, but it doesn't show the type of rock or what it consists of. If this happens, you have to move to another rock, then another, then another. My last session in the asteroids got me over 20 unscannable/ghost rocks. This is one of the reasons why you should only move in a straight line so you don't double back on yourself. If it becomes too much of a problem, your best bet is to server hop by logging out.

[thorn spindle]

Am i doing mining wrong or is hadanite and quantanium rare as hell nowadays? ive gone about 2 days now without finding a quant rock over 16% or a hadanite cluster with more than 4 crystals. am i having badluck or is this the new norm ?

[deep fern]

K thx

[ivory gust]

Where are you searching?

[thorn spindle]

Lyria Pitts, Buckets, North, and South pole for quant. Aberdeen North and South pole for hadanite.

[spring prism]

Hadanite is a gem (blue diamond marker) and Quant is a mineral as a reminder.

[thorn spindle]

those were my go to spots last wipe

[ivory gust]

Never been to Lyria, so can't comment there. Try Arial for Hadanite maybe

Daymar was my go-to last wipe for Hadanite but it seemed poo when I went this wipe

[spring prism]

Hadanite is found in abundance in caves like on Microtech

[onyx crow]

Those are the same spots I use for Hadanite/Quant

[thorn spindle]

getting a roc and nomad in a cave is an issue id rather not deal with

[thorn spindle]

have you mined this wipe ?

[onyx crow]

I have

[thorn spindle]

im having no luck at all on the quant side

[spring prism]

Just hand-mine /4head

[onyx crow]

no issues finding, some bad luck here and there

[thorn spindle]

why would i limit my money making by that much ?

[spring prism]

But yeah, I was having issues on Aberdeen finding anything good in non-volatile minerals too. It's been weird lately.

[onyx crow]

• aberdeen, i use daymar myself

for the hadanite

[thorn spindle]

aberdeen wasnt hitting as much as last patch

took me about an hour to fill my roc

which took me 20 mins last patch

[spring prism]

That's why I went out to Band 5 of inner asteroid belt

[onyx crow]

maybe try checking out the scouting vid in the pins, I've heard things have changed for scanning

[spring prism]

But there's so many low percentages of the good stuff, and as I said, there's tons of ghost/unscannable rocks

I already know the FOV tricks myself

[thorn spindle]

the cross ones? if so those are the tricks ive been using since the patch dropped

[spring prism]

That's how I found a load of Quantanium 300k from CRU-L2

That video is from before the wipe

[onyx crow]

Maybe just horrible luck then .... it happens sometimes unfortunately, I've gone an hour before hopping servers with nothing

[thorn spindle]

scanning got changed in 3.17.1 thats when the video was made

[thorn spindle]

gotcha thanks ill try server hopping

[spring prism]

Yep, and I watched a lot of videos made for 3.17.1 that taught me about the FOV tricks like setting it to 180 to scan only in front, then down to 2 when pointing directly at a rock that's 11k+

[onyx crow]

with nothing but 2%ers and 10%ers

[gaunt fiber]

Quant is indeed more difficult to find. But the trick is to jump to a different location on Lyria if you haven’t spotted anything. If you are out for more than a few jumps, then you might need to switch servers.

[thorn spindle]

alrighty ill be applying server hops more

thanks for the info

[gaunt fiber]

Hadinite can be found on other moons too.. don’t just stick to Aberdeen. Try Arial or Magda (both have been better for Hadinite for me), and Daymar is also a good spot.

With Hadinite, you can just jump to a different moon, I rarely server hop for it.

[spring prism]

I was mainly going to Aberdeen for Bauxite and the other high-end non-volatile minerals

Which is the best place for those specifically besides P-Type asteroids

[gaunt fiber]

I usually hang out around Hurston, because all of its moons are pretty good options. And I rarely go to Aberdeen, because it seems picked over more often than the other locations.

[thorn spindle]

Well ill prioritze quant mining (since i like it more) ill try the server hopping or would yall recommend i try the aarron halo ?

[gaunt fiber]

I don’t like the belt for mining QT. Others might disagree, but it seems much more difficult to find good rocks there for me.

[brittle rose]

if you prefer the aaron halo, head to band 5

it has the highest astroid density

[gaunt fiber]

And, there is currently a known bug in the belt, some rocks won’t scan

[brittle rose]

and therefore higher potential for qt

[spring prism]

Yeah, as I said, I got 20+ of those last run

In that case I probably should've just changed servers

[thorn spindle]

well looks like im sticking to lyria then

thanks for the feedback yall

much appricated

[spring prism]

The problem with Terrestrial rocks, is you can get a lot of 7000+ Size rocks, which you can't break in a prospector solo.

[thorn spindle]

surge stampede brendt

[ivory gust]

Asteroid mining should get a lot better now that SoO is done

[onyx crow]

def can, with the right modules, being surge + stampede and the lancet MH1

[spring prism]

I don't use consumables, I don't like them

[thorn spindle]

ive solo'd 8k rocks with that setup

[ivory gust]

It seemed much worse while the event was running to me

[thorn spindle]

only time i use em is when i need em which is usually only with rocks 5300 +

[gaunt fiber]

@thorn spindle I have definitely found QT mining on Lyria to be more luck than skill lately. But try to narrow your scanner degree on the second ping to look for two or more, also as you approach a rock see if you can visually determine if it’s Quantanium.

[spring prism]

You can break rocks solo on a prospector even with size 6200 (Though I was using a Helix at that time.) With no consumables; it takes forever.

[gaunt fiber]

yesterday I broke a 5500 mass rock in my Prospector without a module

[thorn spindle]

yea thats the technique ive always gone with (double ping or multi pings being 100% quant on lyria)

[thorn spindle]

yea but its usually alot of work while i can just pop surge once and be in the green zone

[gaunt fiber]

it took a while but it’s possible if you find the sweet spot on the rock

I’m too lazy to travel and buy a surge 🙂

[thorn spindle]

lmao

[onyx crow]

I personally don't filter out the single rocks ... I've found some nice 8k singles with 40%

[thorn spindle]

they sell the dream team combo at new babs

[spring prism]

I think I'll be happy enough with my slow mining on 5xxx mass rocks using a lancet on my prospector :V

[thorn spindle]

to each their own

[onyx crow]

but keep filtering em out for me 😉

[gaunt fiber]

right, single rocks are often times worth tracking down. It seems that they decreased the number of clusters of QT and there seems to be more single rocks of QT on Lyria

[thorn spindle]

only time i scan a single rock is if im already flying over it and see the orange lines

[thorn spindle]

This makes sense now

making it harder huh cig

[spring prism]

btw, this doesn't work for me. I have these currently set to . and , and "Change fov" to what's shown here, and what happens is, the ping angle changes when I change the fov, and the . and , keys do nothing at all even though they're set to change ping angle. This happens between game sessions and log outs

[gaunt fiber]

haha, CIG can be a killjoy

[thorn spindle]

i stuck with the default controls so i couldnt help ya

[spring prism]

It wouldn't matter

[thorn spindle]

only thing i did was bound the call station button

that was a necessity

[spring prism]

I just said I have ping angle set to . and , and that's the default, which is what you have'

Instead changing the FOV changes the ping angle, it doesn't matter if I'm in scanning mode or not.

[gaunt fiber]

I use the default binding for Activate Ping, and I have a “forward” and “backward” button on my mouse which increases and decreases the ping angle. I never had much luck using the Left Alt + Mouse Wheel combo.

[thorn spindle]

i kept it at left alt and mouse wheel

[gaunt fiber]

I’ve seen that recommended key binding to change ping angle, but it never worked for me, sorry

[spring prism]

Like I said, change fov changes the ping angle for some reason, lol

[gaunt fiber]

fov?

[spring prism]

Yes, there's another setting close to change ping angle that allows you to change your fov

[royal cairn]

mine only works if im in mining mode or else fov gets changed with it

[spring prism]

This is what I have :V

[thorn spindle]

the fov change yall see in the ship is the ping angle

as far as i know

[spring prism]

Then what does "ping angle" increase/decrease do?

Because for me, it does nothing

[royal cairn]

sry what i meant by fov was a zoom in and out

[thorn spindle]

thats the ping direction that you see go from 360 to 180 to 2 degrees

[spring prism]

^ Yes, that's what I have too

Yep

[thorn spindle]

ahh

[spring prism]

And that's not what it does

Ping angle does nothing

Period, for me

No matte r what keys I set it to, no matter if I set it to the scroll wheel like change fov

NOTHING

[thorn spindle]

if you watch the cross video he does the full breakdown

[spring prism]

Increase/decrease ping angle is non-functional for me

I've BEEN watching it

Which is where I took that screenshot from

I've already done all the stuff in this video

and I still get unscannable rocks from time to time

I've also watched TWO OTHER mining videos from two other youtubers for 3.17.1

And they have the same thing

So I'm not doing anything wrong, It's just not working

[south basin]

There are no ROC or ship mining nodes on Hurston, right?

[thorn spindle]

i think your doing something wrong because it works for everyone else

[thorn spindle]

you can find some but hurstons moons the definitely the better locations for hadanite

avoid aberdeen

[south basin]

But just confirming that there are none on the planet proper, correct?

[thorn spindle]

yes there are

just not as much

[south basin]

Do you know whereabout? Flew for a bit, hit a number of QT targets, nothing comes up with ping.

Only hand mined rocks when you get right up next to a cave entrance.

[royal cairn]

so just tried belt mining after doing lyria the last couple days, got super lucky this time

[thorn spindle]

i usually mine at the poles of planets (om 1 and 2)

[thorn spindle]

so just to understand when you hold down your alt button and mouse wheel up your ping angle does not change?

meaning your ping goes from 360 -> 180

and vice versa

[meager gorge]

Does ping blue circle thing even affect anything? I’ve only had luck with the FOV

[thorn spindle]

what is fov ?

[meager gorge]

It’s the 360 degree you scan in.

[thorn spindle]

ok

that is your ping angle

[meager gorge]

And then theirs the blue circle. Idk what the blue circle even does. But the FOV/angle is what I use to narrow down results.

[thorn spindle]

so what zooming in does is giving you some basic markers if you zoom in to something that has already been pinged

[meager gorge]

So if I make the blue circle smaller on a scanned icon it’ll give more info?

[thorn spindle]

for example if you do a 360 ping and get a bunch of bule sqaures you can then zoom in to 02 degrees ping on one of the blue sqaures and it will tell you how many mineables are there

[spring prism]

For rocks not scanning/etc:

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/wenhm3/is_space_mining_broken_in_3172/

However literally every single time I go out, every rock is "dead" you cannot scan or mine them.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/why-is-ateroid-mining-still-bugged-cant-scan-50-of/328391

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/4/thread/asteroid-mining-bugged-really/327435

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/4/thread/3-17-2-live-feedback-mining-and-harvesting/5268009 (Reply/comment)

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/scanning-rocks-almost-impossible-3-17-2-work-aroun/327978

https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-35716

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/so-much-is-broken-in-3-17-2-right-now

Mining - asteroid belt not spawning correctly, small rocks, takes hours to find quant if at all, some loops they do not scan at all.

As for fov/ping, I'll make a video on it so you can see the issue

[thorn spindle]

the rocks not scanning in the halo was already mentioned yentra i was discussing the fov ping sutff yall keep talking about

the fov is your ping angle

[meager gorge]

The ping angle keybind changes the blue circle for me not my FOV

[thorn spindle]

The aaron halo has had that issue for a while i remember this being discussed alot the last 2 patches. but i dont mine there so i have no personal experience to speak on

[thorn spindle]

yea the only way to change your fov is to go to the settings menu and increase it

thats why i kept getting confused when i saw yall discussing fov

its in the graphics setting btw

[thorn spindle]

that blue circle is what you use to find the mineable rocks

[spring prism]

You can make the "FOV"/Zoom Change permanent, the one that changes with ping angle if you quickly swap to mining mode/etc. while changing your ping angle

And in order to change it back, you have to scroll all the way back

This causes some of my HUD to go away when it happens, because the HUD is past the FOV/zoom

[thorn spindle]

im not gonna lie yall confusing me with the wording being used. Fov is field of view the only way to permanently change that is in the settings menu

[royal cairn]

I'm tempted to make a ahk script to hit the buttons x many times hahaha, scrolling is getting annoying

[thorn spindle]

there are zoom ping and scanner modes that you have access to in your ship

[spring prism]

Can't, third-party is against the game's agreement

[royal cairn]

pretty sure ahk is not

[spring prism]

Does EAC even allow AHK?

[thorn spindle]

you can use anything with a slider too

or well any axis

[royal cairn]

i use it for looting so i assume so

[safe urchin]

once again, looking for a mining scout for a prospector

[ivory gust]

You're in scan mode. Don't do that. Scan in mining mode.

[delicate girder]

Someone told me about a way of scanning to determine the number off rocks in a cluster from a distance in Lyria. Something about setting you scan angle to the minimum. Anyone have a youtube link explaining that?

[meager gorge]

Ah Roger that

[ivory gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfB-8a65hrA

[delicate girder]

Thanks!

How big of a quant rock could two players with rented Prospectors crack? Anyone tried that?

[ivory gust]

Theoretically, anything, but in practice, bad idea

You won't have the benefits of the Lancet mining head (reduced resistance and instability) so you'd need to use mining gadgets to make up for that, and that's a PITA

[delicate girder]

Yeah, like the reiger or whatever it's called?

[ivory gust]

Rieger is a module, which goes onto the laser itself

Can't use that on a rented prospector

[umbral rune]

after a quick search and a bit of text editing, I now have an autohotkey script to swap inventories

[ivory gust]

You need mining gadgets, which you manually apply to the rock by hand

[umbral rune]

dear god it is a lifesaver

[delicate girder]

Yes, I know. Was just trying to remember which one.

[ivory gust]

The Sabir is the one that does instability

You can crack Quantanium with a stock prospector, a Sabir, and maybe a BoreMax if needed, but it's a massive PITA and you'd need the Sabir for every chunk, not just the first break--and they sometimes get lost

[delicate girder]

So did CIG kind of spike the instability when they added mining gadgets?

[ivory gust]

I don't think so, and you don't need the gadgets if you own the prospector and have a Lancet head

[delicate girder]

Yeah, that's what I've used in the past, but I haven't done mining since 3.15 o5 3.16.

Has ROC mining improved lately as far as not being quite as buggy (hopefully)?

[ivory gust]

I haven't run into any ghost deposits this patch. Extracting does sometimes (rarely) not work, but I've always been able to fix it by rebooting the ROC or at worst pulling a gem out of cargo and sticking it back in

Deposits also seem to fracture more aggressively if you've overcharged them, and send gems flying

[delicate girder]

I'm assuming quant mining is still far more efficient money making than ROC mining even when adding in the refining setup time and time to market for after the refining?

[ivory gust]

Yes

[gaunt fiber]

I’m finding that ROC mining is closing the gap in what I can make in an hour vs my Prospector.

Finding Hadinite is way easier than finding Quantanium

Being able to break a gemstone is guaranteed vs rolling up in my Prospector and finding a 7K rock that I can’t break

I still enjoy QT mining, but it has seemed to turn more into a game of scouting with the occasional activity of mining. With ROC mining, it seems like the opposite experience.

[delicate girder]

I haven't used them yet, but don't mining gadgets allow a player in a prospector to crack much bigger rocks than before?

[gaunt fiber]

Yes they do, but you have to equip mining modules ahead of time, and gadgets are expensive and can be lost when you use them. And gadgets take extra time because you have to land your ship, get out, attach it to the rock and configure it. Kind of a pain.

QT is pretty rare, so the current status of mining is you have to invest 30K so you can break a rock that you probably won’t find 9/10 times.

[coarse gyro]

wooo got a lancer

slow to slow down tho

spooky adjustment

[proper phoenix]

44%

[proper phoenix]

without siege of orison space mining is okay

[west tide]

what space station is closest to refine?

[proper phoenix]

depends on where you are

heaven

[ivory gust]

Inb4: they're all 3% or less

[proper phoenix]

one was 33% two was 13%

[ivory gust]

Also, why are you not in mining mode

[proper phoenix]

but yeah

turned off when i was approaching

[snow badge]

I got a Taurus filled with med supplies but can't see to sell it well enough

Most stations like HurL3/L5 and ARCL3 just aren't looking to but anymore

[west tide]

how much can a MOLE make in quantanium mining in 1 trip

is it better than a prospector

[pastel flame]

Jeez, trying to get back into mining tonight and I've had the worst luck imaginable. 30k and CTD both times I got to Lyria lol

[worthy scroll]

Easiest way to sell stuff is to take it to the major cities.

[meager gorge]

I think youre better off in a prospector for solo quant mining.

[gaunt fiber]

A mole has 3x the cargo space, but in terms of profit, you’ll likely have to share your earnings with the crew, so as a captain you might get a larger share of the profits (captain’s bonus), but it won’t be 3x what you’d make in the Prospector.

[thin escarp]

thinkin about gettin my mole out if anyone is interested 🙂

[lusty jacinth]

Will a faster quantum drive on a prospector make the instability of quantanium go down faster?

[glacial dagger]

Nope

[naive carbon]

what is the best trade route right now?

is the one on SCtools still up to date?

I got an C2

[glacial dagger]

What's the route it's saying rn?

[naive carbon]

https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522C2%2520Hercules%2522,%2522investment%2522:1000000,%2522itemName%2522:%2522Laranite%2522,%2522itemQuantity%2522:69600,%2522itemTypes%2522:%255B%255D,%2522locationNames%2522:%255B%255D,%2522locationNamesType%2522:%2522whitelist%2522%257D

but like

laranite seems out of stock all the time

[cobalt rivet]

Try joining best servers for low pop low risk mining

[obtuse granite]

You don't need the best route, choose time when there is a reduction of players (Tue and Wed are best, times immediately after special events like JT or SoO, when players are few, and price differences pike (sellers have had no buyers and buyers have had no sellers for few hours).

Next, choose some material which gives you a modest 80-120 kaUEC profit over a relatively short distance. Do only few runs per day. Do not create attention (make landings in darkness and so on).

Inevitably, you make profit and reach a point where you cannot lose your main capital anymore.

Keep other activities up (bunkers, mining, bounties), since you cannot keep hauling all the time (not yet, at least), besides, it gets boring in the long run.

[naive carbon]

thanks!! 🙂

I was just hauling during my teams meeting lmao

[swift sage]

is there anywhere that I can sell quant that isnt a city? it'd speed up the process by a ton

[royal cairn]

I don’t think so

[worthy scroll]

Even if you could (and I'm not sure you can in the first place) the smaller sell sites usually can only take a small amount of product in at once, then you have to sit there and wait for it to refresh, and hope someone in a different server doesn't instantly fill it again.

So, even if you could, selling to the larger cities would still be much faster.

[jagged storm]

Hola, kinda new to Qaunt mining, are rocks like this 7% even worth it, should I be going for a higher percentage or just mine it and take the 100% ones?

[swift sage]

thats not really worth it, its about 10 SCU's of quant

https://uexcorp.space/mining use this to see how much quant is in a rock

[jagged storm]

ah okay thanks, I do use this site but I didn't know about that part

[west tide]

Lyria I was told is best mining

[jagged storm]

I've heard that but when I went there even on multiple servers I couldn't really find any

[west tide]

Just fly around mountain areas

Every cluster is guaranteed quantianium

[jagged storm]

Okay I'll give it another shot

gotta beat these 3% rocks

[ember ingot]

Are there better spots than others in the Aaron Halo for Q mining? I’ve tried the 5th band for a while but only two hits at just 3%.

[jagged storm]

yeah that's where I've been trying for about 30 minutes, nothing good there

[jagged storm]

yeah Lyria has nothing I'll try again later

[cyan mountain]

this has got to be a joke

every time i do something related to quantanium

i get a 30k

[royal cairn]

I got my 1st 30k in .2 yesterday. I thought they were rare, now it seems to be a lot more often. Maybe back end changes messing with it?

[misty coyote]

I tried to do none quant mining on Aberdeen in a Prosp.....

Felt like not messing about too much and having an easier time cracking them might make up for the sell price.

Turns out..... It's just still not as good...

Used a rental..... Which cost more than a ROC n Black.....

I've heard it from many.... But sometimes you have to test the water is as hot as everyone says, and deal with scorched toes.

[woeful pumice]

You r problem is you rented it. The stock mining laser isn’t very good

And you can’t upgrade a rented prospect

[misty coyote]

It was a bit an test, had a buddy I usually duo mine with in my rental.

He found it much easier to blast apart the obsidian and such.... Just wasn't really worth doing.

[woeful pumice]

Na only mining really worth doing is quant

[misty coyote]

Yeaaah.... I know.... Unfinished..... Alpha.... Still like a bit of the game I like is only partially there.

[woeful pumice]

I wish at some point there’s more in depth industrial in this game , crafting as such where mining is actually meaningfully other then making $. I.e mine this minerals to make this craft with the refined material etc..

[misty coyote]

If they added manufacturing into this.....

Jinx?

[woeful pumice]

Lol ya

Kinda like how EVE does it, with player driven economy

[misty coyote]

Maybe if they added non proprietary ships..... Because you can't really manufacture your own Drake Vulture.....

Or can you?

You'd get slapped with a lawsuit

[woeful pumice]

Can manufacture anything in this game . Yet

[misty coyote]

Well... No.... But when they add habs and stuff...... They will need tonnes of copper..... And gold for wires and circuits....

[woeful pumice]

Yeah it would be a lot of work, like in eve manufacturing large ships takes weeks. And metric shit tons of materials

I don’t think CIG will ever allow up to make ships in game honestly

Maybe armor and other stuff.

[zenith maple]

isnt it mostly fuel we know of so far?

that we will be able to make

[woeful pumice]

Yeah I think

I’m sure there will be much more

I hope

[misty coyote]

Everything in the game has a manufacturer though, so it would be akin to making Nuke Air Max

If they allowed ships to be made.... It would be one use....which becomes less useful to mine and craft

[old gulch]

Hello friendos, I'm new to the game. I used to love just driving resources back in forth in Freelancer, so I figured I'd find a real simple, easy route to do while I'm learning all the other game systems. Is there a useful, newbie friendly resource or tool I can use to develop a real basic trade route?

[thin escarp]

@jagged storm i suggest checking the scouting mining guide i have pinned here

if you just fly around scanning at random your not going to find stuff.

there is a method to scout on lyria.

ive pulled 50 million out of lyria so far.

[jagged storm]

ooh okay thanks I'll check it out as yeah I was just going round randomly pinging and I came accross 2 deposits but only 2% quant

[thin escarp]

yeahh

def use scanning method. i have a guide pinned

[jagged storm]

see I want to save up for the carrack so I'll defienetly take a look

[ivory gust]

Two issues:

• no one has ever suggested Aberdeen for Quant mining. Aberdeen is for ROC mining for hadanite, not Prospector mining for Quant.
• While it is technically possible to mine Quant in a rented Prospector using gadgets, it's not worth the time or effort.

[low compass]

when trading cargo, how long before shop inventory is no longer full?

[fading escarp]

no longer full? you sell at CBD/TDD they never gets full.

don't sell at outposts, with the exception of Scrap

a place such as https://www.gallog.co/tradeports/shubin-mining-facility-SM0-13 gives you a refresh rate for each location.

so when you manage to empty an outpost of a particular commodity, that is how long you need to sit around and wait. Alternatively you can just take the next commodity down and fill up your cargo hold.

now you know that location is empty, so you pick a different location. As you work your way down the list, the initial outpost will have refreshed.

[jagged storm]

Finalllllly found a good one

[umbral rune]

anyone figure out how to get rid of the camera shake when mining a rock?

it isn't the audio driven camera shake, removed that already

[fading escarp]

didn't know you could get rid of it.

[umbral rune]

I'm not certain either, just hopeful

[fading escarp]

I see it as part of the experience / game play, so .. yeah ...

[umbral rune]

for me it interferes a bit with my sight on the meter, which is already a translucent green/white on the blinding white of lyria, so I want my eyesight undisturbed

[misty coyote]

I wasn't quant mining...

[thin escarp]

@umbral rune its in settings

theres a shake function

cant remember the exact name

[ivory gust]

Oh, "none Quant mining." my bad

[umbral rune]

I know there's the audio caused camera shake, but I mean like when I'm mining quant I don't want it all shaking about

actually that might just be the whole ship shaking and I have no choice

[misty coyote]

Yeah.... It was a bust.....

Wished it wasn't....

[jagged storm]

Global camera shake down the bottom

[umbral rune]

holy shit thank you

I scanned that like 4 times

I am blind

[jagged storm]

When I first started Quant mining I was told to go for the Dinx solution, that takes more than a day but the pyrometric produces the same yield in about 5-6 hours

[worthy scroll]

People also factor cost into it. Each process costs different amounts to do. Dinx costs little. Pyro costs a lot.

[jagged storm]

Thought I got lucky

[umbral rune]

hey how are we intended to put a gadget in our hands?

just lost a boremax because I couldn't drag it to my hands, so I dropped it to pick it up

and Lyria ate it

[ivory gust]

Have it on your backpack and press 4 to bring it out

[west tide]

anyone have the link to a scanning guide on lyria

[fallen pewter]

how much do you guys usally make per cargo run

[real ingot]

depends on what im hauling

if im lucky enough to get a full load of laranite bout 230k if its out of stock i run astatine which is about 130k a run.

with my c2

[fallen pewter]

yeah i have a caterpillar and make around that i dont bother with the laranite

usually can always make more with the astantie

[real ingot]

yea what i like with the astatine is how quick it is. pick up and drop off on microtech so idont even have to leave the planet.

[fallen pewter]

What route do you don

[real ingot]

for astatine? usually mining facility smo-22 smo-10 to new babbage

or ill do the same down in hurston form ita to lorville

i look forward to pyro hoping for riskier and more profitable cargo runs

[fallen pewter]

yeah

[last kayak]

hey i need help mining a Lyria im having a hard time finding good quantum rock

took me like 40 min to find a 20% one all the other 3%

[gentle brook]

@last kayak look up a video on mining advanced ping. Properly scanning and know what to look for will help alot

On another note, I want to get a mole team rolling tonight, I finally earned enough to buy and outfit one

[last kayak]

i know how to ping and all i did find a lot of quatum just a lot of 3% one

[last kayak]

what time we talking?

[gentle brook]

Probably half an hour till I'm home, then half an hour to buy and outfit the ship but we could link up before that

[last kayak]

in 1 hour ill have to eat but after that i can join

[gentle brook]

Sounds good.

If enough people are interested we can use the mole team to mine only, then have prospectors run the loads back. This way the mole is always active and can target larger rocks and stuff. I have a friend who might be around to scout rocks. Man's got horseshoes I swear

[last kayak]

nice

i never mine in a mole before so idk if you still want me

[jagged storm]

Cheers for the help guys, I know I coulda done other methods that cost less but I dont have patience haha

[ivory gust]

I mean, if you want to pay literally 6x as much as you need to and directly cut into your profits, that's your choice 🤷

There's no need to rush it, you can have as many refinery jobs as you want running simultaneously, so just stack them up while you keep mining, and haul when they're ready

[jagged storm]

yeah I am going to start using the other methods

If I am to try to save up to the carrack I'll have to

[onyx crow]

Ferron Exchange has the same 'High' yield and 'Medium' speed with a 'Medium' cost vs 'High' cost that Pyrometric has

[ivory gust]

Pyro is faster than Ferron though

[onyx crow]

ah

[jagged storm]

yeah Pyro gets things done in about 6-7 hours for about 20-30k less

[onyx crow]

I was just going off the charts

They have them both listed as medium speed

[jagged storm]

Yeah here's the difference between one of my loads

[jagged whale]

Can I not jettison cargo in a mole?

[onyx crow]

idk if you can on a mole or not, but I've always heard that you can't until it's damn near close to blowing

[ivory gust]

Comparing from Dinyx as the base, Ferron takes 1/3 the time for 2x the cost
Pyro takes 1/6 the time for 6x the cost

So Ferron is a "good deal" in terms of speed vs cost

[onyx crow]

I always just go for Dinyx

it be cheap

with high yield

[gentle brook]

ferron is your best time for money. dinyx is an extra 10-14 hours for 10% extra yield.

[umbral rune]

how useful for a lancet head is a boremax gadget?

does it much increase the max mass?

[delicate girder]

Yeah, I think you can't jettison unless you have quant and the critical timer starts. When that happens I can't remember if it dumps everything or just the quant. I think everything.

Personally, I think you should be able to dump a mining load whenever you want.

[umbral rune]

that would mean people would harvest and dump crap rocks elsewhere, but hey

i think we should have something like the tractor beams to sort rocks around a bit anyway

[cobalt rivet]

Overcharge them

[delicate girder]

No. I mean if you dump, you dump it all. The good and the bad.

[umbral rune]

yeah i meant break rock
pick up trash in the way
dump

[cobalt rivet]

They go poot and disappears

[umbral rune]

true, but they can also send your good rocks a km away

if you're unlucky

[cobalt rivet]

Nah the small frag just poot

[delicate girder]

Yeah, dumping doesn't cuase any trash.

[umbral rune]

already do that, and it does seem to have a chance of boom rather than poot

[cobalt rivet]

poot

Jk but serious tho, overcharge and back away

[crimson mantle]

Hello miners!
I'm in the process of mapping the asteroids in the lagrange points, as they were updated next patch, but I need some help!

If anyone could PM me the following while on their mining trips, it would be great:

• lagrange point
• ores in the asteroid

Thanks!

[jagged storm]

Ahh okay thanks I’ll try it out on my next run

[fiery bone]

Hi friends

I had found a random outpost on yela, thought it was JT but it was on the side of a mountain so must have just been the same building asset, but it had Neon and I was able to load my titan up with it and made like $35k

Anyone know of places to make a run like that again?

I can’t find the place again now that I’m in my nomad

[ivory gust]

https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Neon

[fiery bone]

Thanks, been looking through there

Is there a way to mark locations to be able to come back to them?

Ooh maybe it was paradise cove

[gentle brook]

one more for mole mining?

[ivory gust]

Sort of, not really.

You can use delivery mission packages to mark a location temporarily

[royal cairn]

I wish

[fiery bone]

Would be nice

[spring prism]

I believe there have been rumors of such a system. But they are also rumored to want to restrict it to places you've already visited. Which honestly, I wish some of Bethesda's games did to help keep people playing more.

I'm guessing they want to incorporate it into the scanning system. IE: When you scan for the first time on a planet, you'll have marked it as "Visited"

[vast verge]

what are some characteristics of asteroids I should be looking for while mining quant in the aaron loop?

I 179d scan, 02d scan at 10km away, if it has mass, I fly to 55% signal strength and look for high instability

[spring prism]

Type Q with multiple white pings would be best. Scan ~180 Degrees and go in a line. When you see rocks at least 11k, you can go down to 2 Degrees, and re-ping with your crosshair directly on the rock

If the rock doesn't show up with a type, try again. If it gives a white ping but still no type, it's a ghost rock. If you start seeing too many of those, you'll want to log out to server hop

if you don't want to mine anything volatile, the alternative is Type-P with Bauxilite/etc.

[worthy scroll]

I heard people here like minable rocks.

(There were 15 here within range)

[last kayak]

what ore is that?

[worthy scroll]

Don't know what the art of the rock was meant to look like. None of the rocks were any good, it was just super interesting to see so many at once. Right outside an outpost as well.

[umbral rune]

man every time I take a break from mining to do bunkers or whatever, it's the buggiest shit ever. Just got hit with a 30k after making my third trip to this bunker due to teleporting AI or misjudging the distance to the ground while quickly exiting my ship, and.... 30k

fuck it, gonna just go back to blastin rocks lol

[ivory gust]

Only need to fly towards it to investigate if it's a Q-type

[clever iron]

Whats the best set up for prospector mining

[marble comet]

Just a lancet is good

[spring prism]

Lancet. If you don't want to mine stuff above 6500-6900 Mass, it's all you need. Otherwise, you're going to have to stock some surges, etc. Remember to get close to the rock, because that will increase charge rate, and reduce charge fluctuation.

Mining Modules will be removed if you claim your ship by the way, even the passive ones. (Otherwise the Passive ones stay forever, as long as you don't put them on the ground/floor.) So make sure it doesn't explode.

[hoary hinge]

doing a box drop, box phased into my hull.

If I store and respawn will taht fix it or should I abandon?

[rugged axle]

anyone know the "quantity" of quantanium to fill a c2? or...what the math is to go from quantity{in refinery screen} to scu? is it divide by 100?

nvm, it is divide to 100 for scu. multiply by 100 for quantity. so it takes 69,600 quantity to fill a c2. got a ways to go lol.

[jagged storm]

Bit the bullet and went for Dynx

[rugged axle]

@jagged storm any chance you could pm that website?

[jagged storm]

Its in the pinned messages https://uexcorp.space/refining

[rugged axle]

i guess i should check those more often lol

[jagged storm]

yeah me too haha

[rugged axle]

and it'll save your whole list? or you have to put it in each time?

[jagged storm]

it'll save it

[rugged axle]

awesome. much easier than doing the math myself. then forgetting so having to do it all over again lol

my goal is to fill a c2 full of quant...almost half way there in just the past 2 days

[jagged storm]

yeah mine too I'm trying to save up for a carrack. Just takes its time to find a decent rock

[rugged axle]

yea im wanting a carrack. dunno why though lol. having decent luck in the halo now. not many want to crew the mole though. so 32scu at a time it is

[jagged storm]

I tried the Halo too and someone pointed on that Lyria is better atm and its true

[rugged axle]

depends on time/server honestly. so far this morning. ive pulled 4 42% rocks from halo. thats a mil. and dont have to worry about modules.

lyria is great, dont get me wrong. when i take the mole or have a buddy wanting to mine, we hit lyria

[jagged storm]

I was told yesterday that its better to mine as a group, can someone elaborate. Surely you're halfling the profits or is it just to have a hand breaking the rocks apart? I imagine it depends on the group

[rugged axle]

so...kinda all the above

group mining typically will involve either a mole{4 people} and 1-2 scouts. or 2 prospectors and 1-2 scouts

by doing that, the mole/2 prospectors can break any rock on lyria with no issues. scouts fly and find the rocks to break.

so yea, your splitting profits. but since your not having to find each rock in succession, and instead having scouts do it while your mining. your getting more rocks in the same time/quicker. which leads to more profits for everyone involved

[zenith maple]

also social vs sitting alone in space looking into the void

[rugged axle]

true, social is a big part of it lol. makes it much more enjoyable/not boring

if im running the mole. and we have downtime while scouts are searching. we do fight club 🙂

ok, 1 more load. then a group ert to pay for all the refining costs lol. that'll put me at 3mil in the refinery. almost half way to a full c2

[jagged storm]

Ahh okay yeah I could see where it helps in a mole sorta situation

[jagged storm]

Found a rock which is 48% and I cant mine it

[jagged storm]

Welp xD

[zenith maple]

never leave your keys in the ignition

[jagged storm]

my dog is in there

[zenith maple]

crack the window open if you cant have AC on without the engine running

^ please dont leave pets in hot cars people

[jagged storm]

Threw him out the airlock

Pain

[cyan mountain]

gah dam

do you have external modules?

[jagged storm]

its mass has decreased it was 9k earlier and nope no modules idk what they all do

Would another prospector help someone has offered

[cyan mountain]

sabir reduces instability by 75

boremax 75 resistence

[cyan mountain]

i would but im on the other side of the system

[jagged storm]

yeah someone just said they're in the same boat, prossy at Arc but they'e at Micro

[royal cairn]

i could if thats lyria

[jagged storm]

yeah its lyria

[royal cairn]

are you still there rn? my name is tarianz in game

[jagged storm]

yeah i'm still there

[royal cairn]

whats your name in game

[jagged storm]

same here, itzdaniel483

[final zenith]

So before I go out and buy one... was the mole's inventory issue fixed?

[rugged axle]

2 prospectors can break that @jagged storm
And yes @final zenith mole is 100% fixed

[jagged storm]

yeah Tarian helped me and we just came accross another cluster of 30-40%'s

[rugged axle]

Nice. Sounds like yall in yhe money :)

[jagged storm]

Just a bit xD

[rugged axle]

I took a break lol

And don't ask about the 850 yield one. 30k'd while scooping.

[jagged storm]

NIce haha. I was skeptical to use the prossy as I was under the thought that the ROC gets the same about 200k in "half the time" but with this we can add them up

[rugged axle]

No way. Roc takes twice as long to get that 200k

At least, the couple times I did it. Went to Aberdeen and daymar and took forever

[jagged storm]

ROC takes bout 30mins to an hour for me

He helped me mine this rock, the mass changed but was still good

[rugged axle]

8k 48%? That should fill both prospectors and some left over. If pieces don't go underground.

This patch I didn't even bother buying a roc. But my prospector is also a pledge. Waiting for November so hopefully the argo raft goes on pledge to use as my cargo ship

[jagged storm]

yeah we both got a full load

giggity

[rugged axle]

thats what we look for with the mole 🙂

[jagged storm]

If I don't give up and I actually manage to get the carrack, thats me set until next patch/wipe

[full island]

I've currently running cargo with a phoenix, would switching to ROC mining be more profitable in order to save for a C2 to then go back to cargo running ??

Is there any modules I can buy for the ROC also that would help on Aberdeen with hadonite?

[jagged storm]

If its the const phoenix then no, though you can store the ROC in it

[full island]

Ah so just keep to the cargo running?

[plush maple]

Id do a little of both to keep things fun- try to avoid getting too grindy since the game resets every so often (unless you enjoy the grind!)

but personally i think roc mining transitioning to prospector mining is best

[full island]

Yeah I'm just looking to try get some quick cash. The PvP isn't really my favourite. I'm open to anything that I can get started on

[plush maple]

then id suggest getting a prospector when you can- can yield you about 250k every 30-40 min and is pretty fun

[ivory gust]

Phoenix is not a very good cargo runner. I suspect you could make more money ROC mining.

Easy to test, though--you can rent a ROC for only like 4k and either carry it in your Phoenix or rent a Cutlass for 30k to carry it. Try ROC mining for a couple hours and see what you like best

[spring prism]

Don't worry, I had a dancing ship a few days back.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/572706150286622720/1007073913852919808/unknown.png

[cobalt rivet]

party boat

[spring prism]

Was also a prospector, actually, lol

[cobalt rivet]

mining party

busy saturday, all servers are packed, pvpers out in full force, scammers too

naturally nothing works, bunkers or mining

[jagged storm]

oof yeah it keeps happening xD

[ivory gust]

If there's no gravity outside the hangar while waiting to get impounded, could shut off your engines there so it doesn't happen

Will need to test on my next run

[rugged axle]

what type of rock is bexalite in? i cant remember

[spring prism]

I think it's P-Type Asteroids, and Obsidian Deposits

Note that the on-planet ones can be 7100+ Mass

[rugged axle]

ok cool, trying to teach a new guy how to mine in a rented prospector lol

[spring prism]

For those high mass ones, you'll need Surge/etc. consumable mining modules. Otherwise you can't do them solo. Lancet on its own can do everything up to 6100-6200, but it can go very slow at those masses.

[rugged axle]

yea. i mine alot. hes just never tried it but wants to learn

[spring prism]

Remember to tell him to be close enough for the range to be "Optimal" on the left below distance

It'll help deal with fluctuations

Maybe some day they'll get enough money to own a Cat or a C2, then they can do Trading.

[jagged storm]

You're telling me, 6200

[spring prism]

Yep, very slow without consumables

[jagged storm]

yeah Ima have to buy a surge

I have 14 refines going so I think thats enough for 8 hours

[spring prism]

You can try putting all three Focuses on it

[jagged storm]

tried that, doesn't really do much even powering down shields

ah well

[spring prism]

Sorry, I meant Torrent

Since that increases laser power

But instability will shoot up

[viral tundra]

can anyone help? my ROC isnt scanning rocks so i cant mine them. Is there somthing im doing wrong?

[ivory gust]

Are you in mining mode?

[viral tundra]

yes sir

the laser comes on and i can turn up the intensity

but theres no reading on teh right side

(scanning side)

[ivory gust]

Ghost rocks, it happens sometimes. You'll probably be able to drive right through them, too

You can check in your ship in scanning mode before unloading the roc

[viral tundra]

yeah i can drive through them

of course on a group of 7 Hadys

[cobalt rivet]

I like when quantanium randomly goes inert despite every effort to smoothly transfer it

[delicate girder]

ROC mining success is very RNG. You might be able to beat the profitability of hauling with a Connie sometimes and not others.

[ivory gust]

Have confirmed, you can shut your engines off while getting impounded so you won't have to worry about the Prospector floating when you retrieve it

[delicate girder]

What are the best commodities to haul in C2 quantities these days?

[frigid sedge]

hey guys, do you know how i sell dolovine from my local storage at everus harbor?

i cant chose it as the source at the trading console

[plush maple]

https://uexcorp.space/trade

Enter c2 as the ship and you can compare commodities

[viral tundra]

OK this ist he 3rd cluster of Haddy Nodes iv come across that have all been ghost nodes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF

iv yet to find one in mining for 2 hours

[ivory gust]

what moon are you on?

[viral tundra]

ITA

[ivory gust]

spending 2 hours and finding nothing is...yeah, Ita isn't for ROC mining

[viral tundra]

no theres pleanty of noes

nodes*

[ivory gust]

Hadanite?

[viral tundra]

they are just broken

yes

[ivory gust]

Then there aren't plenty of nodes, are they?

[viral tundra]

iv found 3 or 4 clusters of 3-6 nodes

[ivory gust]

And mined them?

[viral tundra]

no cus they have all been ghosts

[ivory gust]

So you didn't find anything, then

Don't ROC mine on Ita

[viral tundra]

what do you sugest?

[ivory gust]

Aberdeen (need pembroke), Arial (any medium or heavy armor), or Daymar (don't need anything special)

In that order

Those are the general suggestions

[viral tundra]

ok thanks

[viral tundra]

bro just got to arial adn found a cluster that was ghost

[jagged storm]

Yeah defiance core armour only grants me about 13 minutes on Aberdeen

[viral tundra]

i just logged im done for the day

[ivory gust]

Sounds like you were on a bad server. If it happens next time, try bedlogging to switch servers

[ivory gust]

thus "need pembroke"

I haven't seen any ghost deposits while ROC mining yet this patch, will keep an eye out

[jagged storm]

Here we go 5/17 jobs

[rugged axle]

nice daniel. 100scu left for my full c2 load

wish i had friends on to run the mole lol. be alot quicker

[gentle brook]

^looking to run mole tonight. I have one if needed

[rugged axle]

true, but all good. only 3 more rocks to go.

[north oyster]

If anyone has experienced your ship drifting while mining in coupled mode, please contribute. It seems that couple mode no longer holds ship stopped all the time. When mining, this drift is very irritating.
https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-46362

[ivory gust]

do you use sticks?

[gentle brook]

From what I understand it's the gravity slowly turning the moon underneath you giving the appearance of you drifting slowly

[rugged axle]

i actually noticed this today. stopped at 18m, caught it at 4m

[ivory gust]

....no. You turn with the moon

I know there's an issue where Star Citizen will see sticks still giving a small amount of input even when they're inside the deadzone

[jagged storm]

how much more effective is the mole when it comes to profit

[rugged axle]

depends what you can find. it holds 96scu instead of 32. so if you find a rock that the prospector cant hold it all...your instant profit

[gentle brook]

Honestly not sure. If mining quantanium finding large clusters may be an issue. I just bought a mole recently but have plenty of experience solo and group mining with prospector

Having scouts with the mole is ideal from my small amount of time with it

[rugged axle]

best way is with scouts. have 2-3 scouts. they find rocks and sit on them for you to scoop up

[gentle brook]

I have a couple friends who prefer to scout and take small finders fees for their effort.

[rugged axle]

even more ideal, you have 2 prospectors with you. to break the rocks ahead of you. so mole breaks first rock, prospectors break 2nd. mole scoops everything

i still solo the mole in the halo. just for when i find those 5k 40% rocks. aint leavin any on the ground

[north oyster]

not a deadzone issue, tried that already. Thanks

it might be a Prospector issue though

[ivory gust]

You misunderstand. There's an issue in Star Citizen where it still drifts even if the stick is centered.

[north oyster]

But I have seen it in the 400i if I recall

[gentle brook]

I would adjust that and probably have the prospectors haul the loads and keep the mole in the field fulltime or until both prospectors are running loads

[north oyster]

ah, I've not seen that listed

[swift sage]

upsides and downsides with mining in the aaron belt?

[north oyster]

There have been issues with joys sticks since 3.17.1

[north oyster]

I just got back with two good runs

[gentle brook]

Upside there's lots of rocks and you'll never see people. Downside lots of rocks bug out and are unscannable.

[north oyster]

down side is there are duds, but you can just skip them and not waste time

[ivory gust]

Seems to heavily depend on the server. If you're getting lots of duds, switch servers

[swift sage]

ok, what about aaron belt vs lyria?

[north oyster]

Using Ping Angle control, you can ID a dud or asteroid from about 12k

[gentle brook]

Lyria is my fav. Upside, quant spawns in clusters, downside you might see people

[north oyster]

I mine Aaron's Halo 100% of the time

CRU-L1 has a 3% refinery bonus for Quantainium also

[ivory gust]

Maybe this one, although didn't get confirmed: https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-44396

[north oyster]

I also contributed to that one

[gentle brook]

Halo or lyria. Both are preference and both are good

[ivory gust]

Was about to say, hey, some guy with your name answered that one

[north oyster]

LOL

[rugged axle]

problem with the mole not running. is capacity

[north oyster]

MOLE is running, all good with MOLE

[gentle brook]

It's not all good, but yeah it's running

[north oyster]

There is a HUD inert bug for Quan in the Prospector, not sure about the MOLE

[rugged axle]

mole does it too

[gentle brook]

There's some buggy screens and buttons but at least the extract works

[north oyster]

unnerving to watch pure quantainium get turned into inert as you mine it. But the Refinery knows it's Quan

[gentle brook]

I've yet to have that. Finger crossed.

[rugged axle]

have to use vtol to stay afloat.

[gentle brook]

My friend had a full load he stored the ship and it all went inert though

[ivory gust]

did he park the ship in a hangar? or just get impounded?

[gentle brook]

He parked and stored

[ivory gust]

Lots of people have reported quant going bad when parking. Don't park, just impound

[north oyster]

Halo is easy in, easy out. No one there, no environment to deal with AND tons of targets of opportunity

[gentle brook]

From what I'm told the new meta is land and backspace or server log. Both will store your ship. Due to alot of new hangers impounding is a bit more pain

[north oyster]

I've made about 1M aUEC the past day mining in the Halo but the HUD inert visual bug is bothering me enough to maybe go back to ROC mining until the "fixed" 3.17.2 patch drops

The stations still have plain pads you can land at with no issues

[gentle brook]

Mine lyria in that case. Very rare to encounter bugged rocks.

[ivory gust]

...No? Just hover outside the hangar door and get impounded

[rugged axle]

turn speed limiter down, and use autoland to keep from the quant bugging and blowing

[gentle brook]

Still will earn good profit. Set up out of arc l1

[ivory gust]

Considering that HUD bug has been there for a while, I doubt it'll be fixed in 3.17.2.1

[north oyster]

we can dream

[ivory gust]

I prefer to not get my hopes up, then I won't be disappointed

[north oyster]

I'd never had it until 3.17.2

[rugged axle]

and i have 4mil from halo from today

[ivory gust]

I definitely saw it in 3.17.1, haven't seen it yet in .2

[rugged axle]

it was there for 17.1. just not as commonly

[north oyster]

FTW Death

I noticed the Quantaimium count is up since the events have ended

[rugged axle]

yea, its in a much better spot now

still a ton of bugged rocks. but at least good rocks are spawning

[ivory gust]

I've still been on a couple servers that had almost no Q-types showing up

[rugged axle]

which part of the halo are you mining chris?

i may have to search a little longer. but typically find a 5k mass 35-45% pretty quickly today

[ivory gust]

Near ARC L1. Was on a server yesterday that had almost nothing, and one earlier today as well. Bedlogged today after not finding anything, woke up to 3 q-type clusters around me

[rugged axle]

today, if you were on my server. i got it all 🙂

[ivory gust]

The one yesterday was frustrating since I was teaching my wife how to do scanning in the belt and there was just nothing

[rugged axle]

this is today from halo. except for the 1 load. ran mole on lyria with 2 friends for it

[gentle brook]

Nicely done

[rugged axle]

pretty proud of it lol. i want a screen of selling the full c2 of quantanium.

and saving for a carrack...

does anyone know if a gladius can fit in the carrack hanger? i know it fits in the 890j hanger

[ivory gust]

inb4 your game crashes as you approach landing with the full c2

[rugged axle]

all good. 30k protection 🙂

[ivory gust]

Doesn't work on client crashes, only server crashes

[rugged axle]

you right

[north oyster]

Glad to know the ARC-L3 lane is all clear and just for me to mine, LOL

[rugged axle]

i thought about trying a different one 🙂

[gentle brook]

Looking for mole miners or prospectors. Have a scout on standby

[rugged axle]

just got the drift while mining again trip

almost so slow you dont notice it. until you realize the laser is super bright for some reason

[umbral rune]

damnit, red-lighted my cargo

door was already open and I still wasn't fast enough

I'm sure it was becasue elevator doors are so slow now too

[ivory gust]

Don't wait for elevators or hangars. Just get impounded by hovering awkwardly in front of a closed hangar door

[umbral rune]

that's slower than the red light duration

and I'm not doing that every time I make a trip because that's like 15m each I'd have to wait, or pay 15k

[ivory gust]

It's only 5k, and it takes less time than landing and getting out normally does

Especially since there seems to be a bug causing the load to go critical when landing normally, getting impounded is the only safe bet

[north oyster]

I guess another thing I enjoy about the Halo, especially when mining in Band 1 from ARC-L1 is that time is NEVER an issue. Now with the hanger, I hear the first warning for the first time that I never heard when landing on the open pads.

[marble crater]

had 2 runs magically turn to inert at the refinery terminal in the mole. Prospector had been ok so far

[frigid sedge]

Hey guys, i cant select a source at the admin panel to sell my dolovine. Tried it in the local inventory of my station, inventory of my ship, in a backpack and in a container in my ship. Any ideas?

[umbral rune]

I'll have to test it, but I think logging out after a "successful landing" with it in a hangar, and you exiting the ship also stores it

I tried to count my blown up prospector as missing by retrieving it and logging

[frozen locust]

how much is a catapiller in game?

[west tide]

is there a refinery that gives bonus to quant?

[worthy scroll]

4.686m at Lorville.

[spare cairn]

any one want a vehicle hauler

[frozen locust]

for free?

[frozen locust]

for free?

[proper phoenix]

Aaron Halo mining at 6am is pretty neat

but during day its pain

[proper phoenix]

how much time?

[rugged axle]

i mean, alot of time today. but yea lol

[turbid roost]

Hello everyone

I am novice miner.
The gameplay loop for ROC is.

1. mine something till full capacity
2. go with a ship to refinery and refine?
3. Then, where to sell it?

also, Can I move from ROC to SHIP so I can mine till the ship is full of mineral?

[west tide]

i believe you sell it only at Cities at the TDD

[spare cairn]

no call me ill explaine it

[turbid roost]

Im leaving to sleepboss, but thanks @spare cairn

[ivory gust]

ROC is just mine gems, then sell at any station admin terminal or mining outpost. You can transfer them from the ROC to your ship but there's no way to move multiple at a time. Refining is only for Prospector mining.

[spare cairn]

lol i just dmed him bc only need admin centers

mine pu on ship fly to station then go to admin and sell

[ivory gust]

Often faster to go to a mining outpost on the moon you're on

[spare cairn]

either way admin stations

[coarse gyro]

i sell my refined shit at admin stations right

[spring prism]

You'll also never get any inert materials from gem mining

[ivory gust]

No, TDD on major cities

[coarse gyro]

bet

[ivory gust]

...call? what are we betting on?

[spring prism]

Bet is usualy slang for "For sure" or "Alright"

Sometimes can be rarely used when doubting someone

Thanks Urban Dictionary

[umbral rune]

another fucking red-light bug

and no, quickly logging out doesn't store it fast enough

second time today I lost a decent load to this shit

man how did they bug it out to skip straight to red randomly anyway

it... didn't even damage the ship any

so it didn't "explode" it just killed the inventory

so now I've got a cargo of about 98% inert and tiny amounts of beryl/quarts. I can't sell it to the raw terminals, how can I get rid of it?

is there a way to jettison the ore cargo?

30.32 inert
1.26 quarts
.41 beryl

[ivory gust]

start a refinery job?

[ivory gust]

This is why landing isn't worth it. Just get impounded.

[umbral rune]

the bug shows up in less than 1/10 attempts

paying 5k each attempt is not worth it

it's a waste to pay the fine, it's a waste to wait the time

[ivory gust]

I suggest you re-do the math

losing 270k 1/10 times is an expected loss of 27k per run

paying 5k each run is only...5k each run

and you don't need to pay on the last run of the day or if you're taking a break for something

[umbral rune]

I already run only dinyx, so basically throw what I save from ferron at the wall to fix a bug

honestly a hotfix should just be put out increasing the time of the red-light critical stage by ~1-2 minutes

[ivory gust]

or lose 1/10 loads to the other bug, yeah. your choice

the math definitely works out in favor of impounding

[umbral rune]

just had to file a claim on an undamaged prospector because none of it's cargo was volatile, so I can't jettison it

[ivory gust]

so you end up waiting anyway

[umbral rune]

I wasn't about to spend credits to set up a refining job I didn't want

besides that one was semi-bugged anyway, was missing guns somehow

since wipe I've had 4 instances of the red-light bug, and half of those were in the past 6 hours so my luck today is just ass

actually by that account it's more like 1/20 runs then, idk

[ivory gust]

If it's any more often than like 1/50, then it's mathematically more beneficial to impound

[umbral rune]

that would only apply if every load was at or close to pure quant

wait hold on

[ivory gust]

k, 1/25 if every load is only half quant

[umbral rune]

I completely did that wrong

[ivory gust]

nah, you're correct, I did the math based on perfect 32 SCU loads

[umbral rune]

they.. test the version before release right?

[ivory gust]

only a little

[umbral rune]

I actually don't know how stuff goes for SC

is there not like a playtest server kindof thing?

[ivory gust]

There is but why would they fix bugs when people still pay tons of money for pictures of new ships

[umbral rune]

fair point

kinda sucks that compared to last version the only two upsides I can give are:
Refinery mining store terminals work now... mostly
elevators move faster after doors close

that IS weird

my prospector is now recognized as having a loadout with empty gun slots

I never edited those

[ivory gust]

yep, sometimes guns get lost

missiles too

[west tide]

how do i get to the belt near Cru L1

[tight latch]

grim hex

??

[hazy aurora]

do you mean the aaron halo?? if so check this website out https://cstone.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes

[pale cove]

Hello!

Do you know why I cant sell my metal and minerals in this game?? haha

[jagged storm]

what you trying to sell

[pale cove]

Tungsten, Aliminum, Diamond

[brittle rose]

alright yea, im almost confident you can sell those at TDD's

trade and development divisions

theres one at each major city

[pale cove]

Alright, are those the screens?

[brittle rose]

yea

theres a massive TDD sign

[pale cove]

Ait, i've tried selling it there but the thing is everythings like gre y

I cant chose it

[brittle rose]

hurmm...

im sure someone more experienced than me will answer soon

[pale cove]

Thanks anyways man!

[coarse gyro]

power went out irl briefly right as i was pulling a load into lorville to sell. lol, lmao even

half of everything i did last night before bed, i am going to become the joker

best part is that i was already on the pad and in the elevator

[jagged storm]

Spot the issue here xD

[swift sage]

I keep running into rocks too big for me to mine with a lancet. What should I equip on my prospector so that I can mine 8k mass rocks alone?

[vale birch]

Guess you can't

Those rocks are for multi crew mining ships, ergo the Mole

[swift sage]

oh, well how about 6k rocks?

just something that can mine more than 5.5k

[vale birch]

depends

you can kinda "cheat" your way around by boosting your gauge into the green section with the Surge module

[swift sage]

I've been too lazy to go to that hurston station to get that module, is it really worth it?

[vale birch]

yes

because of that exact situation

coming across a 40%+ rock with 6.5k mass plus without surge equipped is just pure agony

cause you wont be able to split that rock

[jagged storm]

Me yesterday had that issue

[swift sage]

you may be explaining what encouraged me to ask this

[vale birch]

[swift sage]

gosh, the pain I felt

it was a 6600 45%

[vale birch]

ahahaha

yes, the left behind 250k

sadge

[swift sage]

and I had been searching for 30 minutes, until I finally found a good rock that I couldnt mine

[vale birch]

yeah welcome to the club xd

[jagged storm]

You're telling me

[vale birch]

but atm it's the only halfway decent way to make money

[vale birch]

yh but 30SCU mining storage on prospector

[jagged storm]

yeah thats true

[vale birch]

so 250 was a good guess

[swift sage]

what if I try using the impact mining laser?

[vale birch]

honestly idk but every guide on quantanium mining ever tells you to use lancet

so i never bothered using a different one

[swift sage]

well, the only thing I worried about was the charge window, but it only decreases it by 10%

lancet's is 40%, impact's is 30%

[cobalt rivet]

So i noticed they put a cap on loads at the refineries. Is it safe to offset the capacity by dumping completed loads into the cargo of my stored C2 until I can get a full ship, or will some bug happen while i keep the ship in storage to make me lose all my cargo

[swift sage]

sometimes when you're trying to claim a ship, it'll choose a different ship to claim, and that could be your C2

[cobalt rivet]

ur right

didnt think about that bug

[jagged storm]

how many uses is the surge module

[royal cairn]

should be 5

[jagged storm]

ah Okay so If I was to buy like 5 I'd be set for a while

Just cause.....never ending pain

[royal cairn]

yea pretty much

lol oof

I use them a lot just to speed up the charging even on smol rocks

[jagged storm]

is that what you were using yesterday

[royal cairn]

yeah surge and stampede

[jagged storm]

why cant Arc-L1 do the surge I have to go all the way to Lorville 😦

[royal cairn]

it gets the charge level to about 70-80% to green usually, then u gotta lower it down and surge again to get it into the green but can be tricky if u go into red with stampede on

i was able to buy a bunch before they wiped the money, wish i bought more hahah

[jagged storm]

yeah I can imagine, atleast surge isn't that much

[swift sage]

ok, dont do this

instability is unusable, and the overcharge goes up extremely quickly

only upside is that the beam looks cool

[royal cairn]

lol

[swift sage]

now im gonna go visit a station to get a surge module

ive been convinced

where do I get surge modules?

[jagged storm]

I hate Lorvilles atmosphere

[swift sage]

thank you

[jagged storm]

np

[plush maple]

i just ask chat for help and someone always comes to help on the rock

lots of good citizens out there

[hoary ice]

anyone want a 40% quant rock?

my shit is full

3

[royal cairn]

ooo

are you still near it?

[hazy aurora]

anyone wanna join us in a mole?? need 2 more crew members

[rugged axle]

@cobalt rivet what cap at refineries? I have 28 work orders in right now

[jagged storm]

Accidentally activated surge twice. Ship went BOOOOM

[cobalt rivet]

wierd

it capped me at like 8

[rugged axle]

When you say capped. What do you mean? Like it just won't let you add another, or it says your ship only has inert materials?

[radiant oriole]

so what route can i take then

how do i know

[spring prism]

@radiant oriole I'd recommend setting your Minimum refresh rate value on SC Trade tools until you get more non-yellow trade routes

You'll have noticed when you set it to 20, one showed up

[radiant oriole]

this one?

im sorry im just so confused

[spring prism]

These ones, as an example:

[radiant oriole]

why those ones

[spring prism]

There's no yellow outline around them, which means they're likely in bigger stock/demand

[radiant oriole]

oh this outline

so it means they need more laranite or have too much?

[spring prism]

Yes. Usually the right side, if it has a wait time, means it has too much at the sell location

the left side is the buy location

[radiant oriole]

yeah but the whole box has a yellow outline

[spring prism]

Yes, which means one of the two places has a wait time

[radiant oriole]

so your not supposed to know or what?

[spring prism]

In your image: #industrial-professions message

It's clearly marked that the buy location has the wait time

[radiant oriole]

here it doesnt

just a yellow outline

[spring prism]

The sell location can also have a wait time:

Did you choose Laranite specifically?

Laranite is one of the big time commodities

[radiant oriole]

no i didnt

[spring prism]

Weird, because mine did Titanium on that image I sent: #industrial-professions message

[calm egret]

pretty sure its the refresh rate you have set, laranite doesnt restock fast enough so its filtered out

[spring prism]

Yes. laranite has a maximum refresh rate of 2000 for buying

[radiant oriole]

whats refresh rate

[calm egret]

you had 20k in the pic

[spring prism]

Yes, which means basically only titanium was available, as it has a high refresh rate :V

[calm egret]

maybe im misunderstanding

[spring prism]

Nope

[radiant oriole]

what is refresh rate

[spring prism]

Refresh Rate, which I showed in that image: #industrial-professions message

is the amount of units per minute the commodity regenerates

Both in buy and sell

[radiant oriole]

ooooh

ok

[spring prism]

Laranite has a max of 2000 units/min for buying.

The main reason it shows that wait time isn't because it's out of stock, but because you have to wait to get full cargo. At those buy locations they only stock up to 50,000 max. Full Cargo for your C2 would be like 69,000. (Nice.)

[fallen atlas]

Bored so running trade routes in the C2. We'll see how this goes 😅

Don't think any of the facilities are gonna have enough SCU for me.

[calm egret]

cargo seems impossible without at least a c2, and even then seems slow

sucks as a new player

[spring prism]

Yeah, you're going to be doing a lot of waiting if you want Laranite

[fallen atlas]

cargo isn't a very good money maker at the moment

[spring prism]

Mining is just as bad sometimes

[fallen atlas]

just picking up as much agricium and laranite as I can find

[calm egret]

if you dont run laranite in the smaller ships its not even worth the time, and laranite isnt worth waiting in the long run. seems like a broken system

[fallen atlas]

yeah, if it's there I'm grabbing it, if not no biggie haha

[spring prism]

And higher refresh cargo isn't worth it in smaller ships. Titanium for instance

[fallen atlas]

Just trying it out in a big ship cause I've never done it.

I'll try picking up some titanium too then.

[calm egret]

yeah exactly...

[spring prism]

Titanium has a massive refresh rate at the Trading centers though, 50,000 or something a minute for sell locations

Which is just insane

[fallen atlas]

I've done next to 0 trade before, except in a Titan

[spring prism]

Avenger Titan, even with Laranite I think is less money than you can make in box deliveries >_>

[calm egret]

yeah im hoping cargo gets a buff soon, maybe when everything becomes physical

[spring prism]

lol, yeah, it definitely is less than box deliveries:

Box deliveries are 8000

[fallen atlas]

My guess is with cargo refactor there will be balancing

[calm egret]

a whopping 500 a min lol

[fallen atlas]

picked up liike 295SCU of titanium

aaaaand somehow got stuck in my elevator shaft.

[spring prism]

lol

[fallen atlas]

it came back up thank god

[spring prism]

Maybe when the Cargo Refactor comes out, they'll add a new 1000+ USD pack like the Expedition, but for Cargo

What ships would you want it to have though?

Freelancer Max, Taurus, C2 Hercules? Maybe a Cargo Ground Vehicle if there is one by then?

[radiant oriole]

is this the most i should expect for profit?

[fallen atlas]

holy shit the hangar I was landing in shut the doors instantly and it sandwiched my ship.

[spring prism]

You can do the Laranite route, you just have to wait a while

But otherwise yes

[fallen atlas]

cost me a whopping 19 aUEC in repairs 😠

[radiant oriole]

whats a while?

how long

[spring prism]

The wait period shown on the site is mainly for how long it is for you to get full cargo, which is why it says 9 minutes on those ones

[radiant oriole]

so 9 minutes for full cargo?

[spring prism]

Those places that sell the Laranite to you, only have a max stock of 50,000, and your C2 can hold more than that

[radiant oriole]

thats fine

[spring prism]

Keep in mind though, the stock is shared across all servers, so if someone else buys all the stock, it might take you even longer

It's up to you if you want to wait, or get instant profit now

[jagged whale]

Will the scorpius fit in the carrack?

[jagged storm]

For me Laranite was a pain. Yes it pays the best but so many other players were after it I would only be able to buy like 4k at a time and would wait like 20 minutes, checking on it every 5

I went to one site, had two other C2's there

[spring prism]

Astatine is right above Titanium in value, so you could always do that too. it's 14,000 or so more UEC profit in one trip. But it has about as low of a refresh as Laranite at its buying locations

[robust flint]

I purchased a RAFT as my first in game and was running distilled spirits. Definitely low risk but $$ was like ~9k for 10 15 mins

Tried medical supplies and all the decent routes always had inventory issues

Also not getting any delivery missions for some reason. Making more money on call to arms and claimjumpers in my aurora

[cobalt rivet]

I got C2 and then found out cargo was bad money

[fallen atlas]

I bought it for carrying ground vehicles to jumptown and stuff, but just running trade for fun

[cobalt rivet]

well, its still good for running quant

dont gotta make a million trips

[fallen atlas]

laranite is decent profit

[cobalt rivet]

they nerfed quant availability to the ground

you actually have to seek it out now

[fallen atlas]

not bad for 1 trip to wala

about 140k in profit

[cobalt rivet]

ethereal music

[ivory gust]

It's bad advice, but @inner elm uses impact for quantanium

It requires you to use the Brandt module on every break to deal with the instability, but he claims it lets you do higher mass rocks than a Lancet.

But really, just use surge/stampede on lancet

https://youtu.be/tFkvM814hjM

[inner elm]

yes my #1 fan

hes back, the most helpful constructive member in this community

[ivory gust]

Someone asked about using impact for Quant, I sent them to you

You may be able to convert him to your way of doing things

[inner elm]

not here to convert anyone to anything, as i said in the video feel free to use any build you like but i recommend that one

i get consistent full hauls every time, idk i just like it

[ivory gust]

If it works to break the 6.5k or whatever rocks that people are finding on Lyria, then it sounds like a solid alternative there

[inner elm]

it indeed does work for that, and much higher mass rocks as well

[royal cairn]

brandt allows u to get cleaner breaks too dont forget that

[jagged storm]

Trying to jump from Arc-L1 to Lyria, tells me to go to the station xD

[west tide]

Fly a little away and reset, I get that bug often

[jagged storm]

thanks that did it

[ivory gust]

For me flying towards the station point fixes it

[gentle brook]

Shout-out to the guys who came out for mining last night. We pulled 2.6 mil in a little over an hour and a half

Big shout-out to @sweat you frigging scout god

See y'all tonight for a longer grind!

[ancient pilot]

Im about a 500k away from getting my prospector so I can try quantum mining!

[gentle brook]

@ancient pilot if you're around tonight we'll have a group running with moles and prospectors. Come grab a seat and join in.

[ancient pilot]

Appreciate the offer but as I haven't actually done quant mining before I want to do a few runs solo so I know what to do if you get what I mean?

[gentle brook]

We bring alot of newer people along to help teach them how to safely mine quant. They usually grab a side turret and we try to explain everything as we go. Then after each drop off, we do the math of refined prices and I send cash to all participants

[ancient pilot]

That's awesome but i want to go through the process on my own if that makes sense? It's more for the nights where I won't have a group and I have to do it alone.

[gentle brook]

Group mining is enjoyable. Shoot me a pm if you ever want in!

[ancient pilot]

Will do for sure!

[gentle brook]

On a side note, some people prefer to bring out their own prospector and that's totally fine, our scouts will locate you a rock asap and they usually accept a small finders fee then leave you to it

[ancient pilot]

That's understandable. Although I'll be broke when I do get mine 🤣

[gentle brook]

For example if a rock would net you 400k refined price, he might ask for 40k as a finders fee. While that's a small pain, our scouts always have more rocks on hand then we can manage

[ancient pilot]

That's understandable

I do space medic gameplay normally and as beacons only work if they get to a hospital I need to hope they pay 🤣

I feel bad demanding payment for rescue as I'm supposed to be the saviour lol

But I understand paying people for services it's only fair.

[gentle brook]

I have one guy who is my go to scout. I've paid him millions for scouting and I've made tens of millions from what he scouted

[ancient pilot]

I bet. And I'm sure you've also tipped him a few times for his services too lol

[gentle brook]

Definitely. He's always dropped whatever he's doing to come scout for me and the group. Solid guy

[ancient pilot]

Loyalty and hard working, gotta love that.

[gentle brook]

Then again for him it's easy income. Man zips around so fast his character is blacking out in that damn mustang gamma while finding more rocks than we can mine, no matter how large of a group we have

[ancient pilot]

😂😂

[gentle brook]

For real though.