industrial-professions

[raw shell]

I'd look up and down each side and would almost always find good spawns

[cunning fiber]

Hey, I really like the ARGO mole, I think its a fantastic ship but I mostly play SOLO instead of with friends. Is it somewhat viable to use solo?

I mean it LOOKS viable, but maybe stats say otherwise or something?

[plucky tulip]

Mother F888ker my luck first cargo hold full of quant docking and game crashes

[worthy scroll]

Yeah. I'm not touching cargo or mining this patch, game just keeps crashing.

I'm lucky if I can get one box mission or investigation done.

Some kind of error is causing it, I've seen the window once, but it disappears pretty much instantaneously, so I can't see what it is.

[coarse quiver]

It's not as efficient solo as it is with a crew but doable. You can scan the rock up close to see if it's worth to swap to the laser. Prospector is more time efficient solo and in group. But the MOLE is way better looking.

[ivory gust]

Scanning seems to be the big downside of solo MOLE compared to Prospector since you lose the ability to scan as effectively from the pilot's seat

[merry beacon]

Anybody having issues scanning right now?

[coarse quiver]

You can actually scan from the pilot seat

Just not long range

[ivory gust]

Not as effectively as the Prospector can. I didn't say you couldn't scan, just not as effectively

On Lyria it won't matter as much since you need to get close anyway, but it's a big difference in the Halo

[coarse quiver]

Yeah I agree

They should give the MOLE a remote scanner for the co pilot

[merry beacon]

I thought you can't scan rock material in the pilot seat of the Mole

[coarse quiver]

You can in scan mode but up close

[ivory gust]

What issues? If you're finding lots of unscannable rocks in the Halo, that's something a lot of people are complaining about

[merry beacon]

like 250m close?

[coarse quiver]

Not like a Prospector in mining mode on 2 degree

[merry beacon]

no, on lyria. I'm aware of halo issues. I'm unable to scan anything on lyria rn

[ivory gust]

Nah, forget that. Get rid of two of the dedicated operator seats, give the pilot a mining laser and the copilot a remote turret mining laser.

We don't need more unnecessary crew proliferation, that's what gives us crap like the ROC-DS

[merry beacon]

tried server hopping and no fix

[ivory gust]

Fundamentally you don't need a full-time pilot while the mining operation is in full swing, so that's a wasted seat. The copilot, like all copilot seats, is a total waste at the moment.

MOLE would be much better if it were specifically 3-crew. Two dedicated miners and a pilot/miner.

[coarse quiver]

I don't think they will rework it that far sadly

[ivory gust]

Sadly

Giving ships more crew seats than they really need seems fairly common (freelancer with 5? What?)

I shall call this "crewflation"

[coarse quiver]

Crew ships are ambitious but a hard punishment currently

argo solo miner

[coarse gyro]

wow renting a cutty and buying a roc was the move

[umbral rune]

if I keep renting a ship multiple times, will the number keep increasing?

IE: I let it expire and am not using it anymore, then rent another

currently have "Andromeda - 2"

[ivory gust]

For me, subsequent ones always seemed to be 2

Even if 1 no longer appears

Same if you later purchase the ship after rental expiry, it also shows up as 2

[fair slate]

Hire a scout, easy $

[fair slate]

Viable, highly recommended you use a scout

[coarse gyro]

is it worth buying a cutty vs renting?

running the numbers in my head it like pays for itself so hard that buying feels almost pointless

but i want it to feel homier

either way i cleared 300k today, so the cost of my roc and 72k 3 day rental are made up

[spare cairn]

just buy the mining roc for 124k then do one trip only mining hadnite

anyone need a scout i have a finders fee of 5k and some small precent after you get it in refinery

[umbral rune]

acems, depends on what ships you own otherwise

if it's only for delivering cargo, maybe, maybe not

but if you want a decent midground ship with cargo and stowage for stuff other than mining, cutty is decent

like me I have the mustang as my package, so I bought a cutty today

there is also a bug with expired rentals I brought up yesterday

[scarlet sinew]

Worth buying the Cutty just to be able to slap a Crossfield or XL-1 in it and get around faster. The time saved adds up super quick, imo.

[thin escarp]

bout to head out to mine

if anyone wants to join me dm

[ivory gust]

If you like the Cutlass and plan on using it a lot, sure it makes sense to buy one. But if you're wanting to move up to Prospector mining, might make more sense to buy a Freelancer MAX instead--it can also easily carry a ROC, but has much more cargo space and is more useful for hauling the refined ore.

Less than 2x the cost of the Cutlass but with nearly 3x the space

The other option if you want something exclusively for ROC mining is to buy a Nomad (only 952k), but be warned that it will actively try to kill you above 300m/s in atmosphere

[coarse gyro]

how’s its rental price? could probably use it to get to whatever amount depending

[cerulean lichen]

Done with work. Time to commute home then it’s mining time! Need to make some money to outfit my ships

[ivory gust]

Can't rent Nomad, sadly. Cutlass is the cheapest rental that can carry one

[coarse gyro]

roger that — i feel like i can make like 1.5m in the next week p easily through cutlass rentals

[ivory gust]

Likely, yeah

[coarse gyro]

after seeing that it only takes like an hour to make back the 3 day rental cost

depends on my work schedule

[ivory gust]

Be careful with multi day rentals currently, I've heard they can overcharge you

[lofty bone]

can you put modules on the roc?

[ivory gust]

Mining modules? No

[spare cairn]

anyone need a scout i have a finders fee of 5k and some small precent after you get it in refinery

[glacial dagger]

a) it's percent, and b) I wouldn't rely on after refinery honesty. I recommend <25% = 15k, 25%-35% = 25k, >35% = 50k

When dealing with quant rocks anyway

[spare cairn]

i only want 5k upon finding and then like 20% but

im only finding the good stuff above 400k

so 85k a rock

[dusty mulch]

QT with a ROC in the cargo bay to go pick up and drop off a friend resulted in a day's worth hadinite disappearing 😦

[spare cairn]

lol you cant use a mining roc to mine quant

[ivory gust]

Nobody said anything about using a roc for Quant?

[ivory gust]

What ship? Usually best to sell off the hadanite if you're going to go do anything else

[dusty mulch]

Cutty B, and I usually do but they needed an emergency evac (which was a success) and came right back to daymar.

Tried storing the ROC and reclaiming, cargo still at 0. Sigh. Oh well. Alpha 🤷🏾‍♂️

[ivory gust]

charge your friend an emergency evac fee for the lost hadanite

[dusty mulch]

lmao

[visual karma]

hey guys quick question how much is ~1500 cSCU to SCU idk what ship that would fit into

[ivory gust]

cSCU is centi-SCU, so divide by 100

[visual karma]

you mean divide 1500 by 100?

so 15?

[glacial dagger]

Yh, 1500 units is 15SCU

[vast verge]

Hey guys, the mining mode on my prospector isn't working, any ideas? I've tried turning the engine on/off, getting in/out, cycling through mining mode, and server hopping, but nothing

I can get into mining mode via M, but I can't do anything else like use it, right click to get into extraction mode, set laser intensity, etc

[dusty mulch]

as in the laser just doesn't activate, or it does and nothing happens? If the latter, make sure you're throttling intensity into the "OPTIMAL" zone, otherwise you'll just sit there peeing on a rock for hours.

[vast verge]

it's the former

[dusty mulch]

odd. didn't accidentally turn it off did you?

[vast verge]

so, i 30'kd after i bought and installed the lancet laser and for some reason I had nothing installed instead of the original laser..

[dusty mulch]

yea I'm out of ideas there bud

[ivory gust]

install laser head, profit

also, second trip to the Halo this patch, I'm not seeing all the issues people are reporting

[stray wolf]

Are you able to load multiple work orders into a ship that has enough room for it?

[ivory gust]

Yes, but each work order is all or nothing--you can't split a work order up

[stray wolf]

Gotcha!

[umbral rune]

nice haul winter

I usually mine lyria, maybe i should check out halo

[stray wolf]

Same here, I always mine Lyria but I’m def gonna get in on that Halo action

[umbral rune]

though gotta figure out how to do that

also it could just be RNG favoring him

[keen briar]

Whats like a good percentage of quant in a rock?

[umbral rune]

depends on the size

what's your mining lazer?

[keen briar]

Lancet MH1

[umbral rune]

you can break up to mid 5ks with some sway up and down

under 5% is pretty much never worth
5-12 depends on the size
12+ is a settle load
anything over 20 is worth always imo

[keen briar]

Sounds good thanks

And should I only break up 1 rock or do multiple?

I was always only doing 1 rock making like 136k worth per run

[umbral rune]

if they're nearby I break everything up first (obviously only with quant I expect to get out) then grab

[keen briar]

But scanning and finding a good rock always took forever

[umbral rune]

it seems fragments can despawn if left alone

[keen briar]

Oh okay so 1 rock and its applicable fragments

[umbral rune]

if you find a cluster feel free to crack it up and so on

cause quant on planet can spawn in groups of 1-10

[keen briar]

I see, I was mining in the aron halo I think is what its called

[umbral rune]

if you're a special level of meticulous you can plan to return to that spot, much easier with an ally but I have done so without

ah

I actually have no asteroid mining experience

[keen briar]

Also another question, how do you know when to stop breaking up the rock into fragments?

[keen briar]

Do you prefer mining on a planet surface vs asteroids?

[umbral rune]

I have only so far mined planet

so I actually don't know much about asteroid

when the fragments are purple outline, they are at their smallest size

yellow must still be broken to be harvested

[keen briar]

Ohhh I see thats what the outlines meant

[umbral rune]

yeah

if you try to crack a purple it will only destroy it

but it does have an invisible meter

[keen briar]

Oh okay thanks so much

[ivory gust]

Asteroid mining has two big advantages:

• You can see what type asteroids are from up to 12km away by scanning in mining mode. This way you don't need to investigate unscannables or non-Q-types.
• There are no rocks above 5200 mass, so you don't need modules--a Lancet MH1 is fine on its own

Also, no wind and it's basically impossible for people not in your party to find you

[cobalt rivet]

I started well in Halo, but ended up only finding 2% so I switched over to Lyria

[cyan mountain]

Didn't know about the scanning

[cyan mountain]

This was also the case for me

I filled up my prospector twice with quant

[cobalt rivet]

Been doing well in lyria

[cyan mountain]

On lyria

[cobalt rivet]

ye. having your mining head out, you dont have to stop and investigate a rock

it instantly alerts you of what rock type is in your scan window

so you dont have to slow down until you see quant

works on moon surfaces too

just not as far out as scanning in space

[keen briar]

The only problem with this when I was trying it is I ended up rescanning a lot of stuff, and when it was like more then 10k KM away it wouldnt show anything

[cyan mountain]

Try going on a direction

Clear of asteroids

Then decouple

Spin around and scan some stuff

[keen briar]

And ping at 180? then at 2 degrees?

[cobalt rivet]

what its supposed to do is proximity alert of rock type, so you know whether you should slow down and look around

re-scanning is a must to get the percentages anyways

[cyan mountain]

360 might be okay, since you are still going away from already scanned asteroids

[cobalt rivet]

dont do 360, keep 90 and go in one direction

[keen briar]

90 and then 2 degrees on each signature when decoupled and spinning around?

[cobalt rivet]

90 will alert you of everything within 90 degree FOV which is a significant frontal coverage

[cyan mountain]

Don't go too fast

[keen briar]

Its just that if it was more then 10k KM it wouldnt show me the rock type

[cobalt rivet]

180 will make you stop and turn full 90 to investigate

[keen briar]

And the ping would go away

[cyan mountain]

SCM speed

[cobalt rivet]

400mps is a good cruising speed in space

[keen briar]

400? I was thinking a lot slower

[cobalt rivet]

200-250 mps for surface

nah, sub 400 is too slow

you pick up on rocks 10km out, youll be wasting time traveling to it

[keen briar]

Okay and to fix the rock type not showing from far away what should I do?

[cobalt rivet]

you want them to show far away

it literally glows orange so you can spot it

[keen briar]

Oh okay so choosing the signatures less then 10km?

[cobalt rivet]

listen this is the workflow.

90 scan window
Mining head on
cruise 400mps
it alerts you of Q-type rock/Quantainium
you slow down and look (turn slightly if you have to), but the rock will glow orange so you can pick it out from the group

approach the rock and scan to see percentage

if not ideal, rinse and repeat

[cobalt rivet]

the rocks don't actually pop up until it reaches under 10k, what I mean about keeping 400mps is so that you can still be fast but not too fast that you cant slow down when the rock appear

[keen briar]

This is so helpful, thank you so much

I went like 10 minutes not finding quant

[cobalt rivet]

its also luck

but, this should help you work more efficiently

just remember, on moon surface you travel betwen 200-250mps

dont go 400mps on moon cause the pickup range is a lot lower

[ivory gust]

if that's how you're scanning no wonder it takes you forever to find something

ping at 180 while travelling decoupled, ping each result at 2, go investigate Q-types

by only doing 90 and only turning to look when Q-type pops up you're missing a ton

[cobalt rivet]

i run a small monitor, 90 is more than enough coverage for me. if you have 3 screen setup and foip, have at 180

tho youll be slowing down a lot to look all around you. and I am fairly certain asteroids arent as good as Lyria as Ive gotten consistently good rocks on moon surfaces

[ivory gust]

monitor size has nothing to do with it

180 ping shows a lot of rocks you'd miss at 90...yes you have to turn a lot to scan things but that's how you find stuff

Not needing to worry about modules makes it worth it for me

[uncut lodge]

did 3.17.2 fix the gem staking? yeah they still only go one stack in 3.17.2

[fair slate]

Comma and period to change scanning

[unique flame]

anyone know a post/place/just know what the limits of the mining gadgets are? i'm trying a 8.3k quant rock here with a lancet and a boremax gadget and that doesn't seem to be enough to overcome the size

which logic would tell me shouldn't be a thing. -75% resistance should easily bring it down to below what a 5k rock would normally do but i can't heat this thing

[frozen patio]

saw a few people here had the issue where the quantanium alert goes off in the prospector as soon as you land and get out, both times its happened i managed to store my ships but the refinery terminals dont recognise the quantanium, just 32scu of inert materials... is the quant just lost now?

[unique flame]

last i did quant was in 3.12 and that sounds like the issues i had back then.

ship 'exploded' out of my FOV but is still intact overall but the cargo is useless

kinda silly

[frozen patio]

actually, remembering back on it now 1 ship said 'destroyed' after i stored it and the other ship just said stored after i pressed the button so i assume that means it was successful

weirdly one of the terminals at the refinery says i have 64/32scu of materials to sell while the one right next to it says 32/32scu

[unique flame]

which quant alarm did you get btw? full on red blinking?

[vast verge]

Is asteroid scanning bugged? After I scan one, the next consecutive scans don't work

[unique flame]

there's a lot of dead rocks

use narrow scanning angles to snuff them out at long range

if it doesn't at least show a type at like 11km ignore it

[shut remnant]

whats the quant sell price per unit?

[unique flame]

88

[shut remnant]

100 units is 1 SCU?

[unique flame]

a full prospector pulls 3200 raw

in its 32SCU space

[frozen patio]

think it was the first alarm

[keen briar]

hey guys im in the aron halo trying to do this workflow to find rocks:
180 scan window
Mining head on
cruise 400mps
it alerts you of Q-type rock/Quantainium
you slow down and look (turn slightly if you have to), but the rock will glow orange so you can pick it out from the group
approach the rock and scan to see percentage

But when I scan at 2 degrees to each signature it doesnt show anything when I have mining mode on?

[unique flame]

are you tagging everything with 2 degrees mining mode on when they're at like 11km?

[keen briar]

Yeah, I tried scanning when I stopped and wasnt crusiing at 400mps decoupled and it did scan

So im thinking my scans just werent hitting

[unique flame]

i do mostly the same thing. but i've never seen a rock go from pinging back q-type to nothing. only nothing/other types at long range

and i just do go that way obviously

[keen briar]

Like it sends out the scan but doesnt give me any info back

Its only when I stop and then scan the signature at 2 degrees that it gives me info

[unique flame]

sometimes rocks have no info, they're just dead

it's about 50% at the moment

[keen briar]

This is so annoying ive gone 10 minutes now and the only q rocks I find are just 2 percent

[unique flame]

lol welcome to the club

[keen briar]

This is not profitable theres no way

In the same time I couldve done a bunker mission

[unique flame]

one rock is worth like 260k tho

if it fills your boat

[keen briar]

Most ive gotten so far is just half my hold

Not to mention now im not finding any q types

[unique flame]

if i'm not having any luck i either do a micro jump or scoot at 1km/s for a bit

[keen briar]

More q type rocks with 2% quantanium

[unique flame]

2% is definetly the most common. you nee something like a 4000+ mass 30%+ one

[keen briar]

Best the game can do is 4000 6%

Im done with this bs ive gone for 30 minutes now

[unique flame]

that's some bad luck damn

4678 34%

[keen briar]

Part of the issue is the scanner

Mining needs fixing

[unique flame]

sometimes i get two good rocks on my first scan sometimes i need 30 mins, bit of a mixed bag

better than going to lyria or something tho

tried that too. 8k rocks with 50%....yeah can't break that

even with a gadget

[keen briar]

Yeah, I wish i could find a group to go to lyria with and mine away

[unique flame]

i'm game if you want

i think you should be able to break an 8k with two prospectors and maybe a borex

[keen briar]

Okay so we could take down those big rocks?

Im down to do that if so, where can I pick up the borex devices?

[unique flame]

i'm based out of arc-L1 and it's available there

if you're elsewhere....can you get surge?

[keen briar]

Ah, im also at arc l1 but I can go grab a couple

Lets talk in dms

[kind lion]

Impact and lancet mining head with nothing else can break 8k I’ve done it

[cobalt rivet]

go to Lyria, you can solo mine in prospector

Lyria also has higher yield rocks in case you have mole

[muted fox]

setting up a little mining group for prospector runs on lyria open to suggestions for other spots

just dm me or join the chat if u tryna

[glacial timber]

What should I haul and trade that makes alllot so I can use the Titan for??

[cerulean lichen]

Trading in a titan is extremely difficult. I’d suggest doing delivery missions that can earn 45k per run

[glacial timber]

You mean box missions

[worthy scroll]

Yeah, delivery missions or derelict missions (if you can get them to consistently work for you).

The way trading works right now, it's really only good for ships with huge cargo capacity.

I wouldn't trade in anything under a Taurus/Raft.

[glacial timber]

Is a MAX okay

[cerulean lichen]

Yah hopefully trading will become like elites with a changing market and demands, but right now only way for it to make any profit is just bulk carrying or making smaller earnings like 30k profit a run on ships like a raft or max

[worthy scroll]

That can work, it's between the Taurus and Raft.

[glacial timber]

Thank you

[worthy scroll]

Just keep in mind that you aren't going to make big bank with it. It's more of a relaxing and chill out gameplay, for when grinding cash isn't your main priority.

[radiant oriole]

how profitable is mining

[scarlet sinew]

Probably second highest behind group ERT chaining

[radiant oriole]

ok

[scarlet sinew]

Well actually never mind, it’s probably 3rd

Forgot about high tier bunkers

[radiant oriole]

ok

[radiant oriole]

what should i look for while mining

[thin escarp]

for me

mining is more profitable then anything

i average around 750k a run in about 35 minutes

[radiant oriole]

no like what rocks

[thin escarp]

quantanium

cant use a rental prospector.

[radiant oriole]

but doesnt that explode your ship after 15 minutes

[thin escarp]

you store it and it doesnt blow up

[radiant oriole]

store it where?

[thin escarp]

you break the rock completelly down then head back to the refinery station to store

[radiant oriole]

ok

[thin escarp]

i suggest watching some guides pinned in this channel

[radiant oriole]

i am rn actually

[woeful sierra]

Hello there, can somebody explain me why is my quantinium transfering to scrap? Look at the material in the right

[onyx crow]

It's a known bug going on lately, but if you go back to the refinery, it'll show up as quant

[woeful sierra]

It is not

[onyx crow]

:/

[woeful sierra]

Cant even choose refine from because my Prospector is full of dirt

[onyx crow]

You may want to add to the issue-council

[woeful sierra]

Finding already created issue right now, will add these videos. I am a newbie and I was searching this rock for like 1,5 hour 😢 😄

How I can delete the cargo? Just blow the ship?

[onyx crow]

Should be able to jettison the cargo

or detonate the ship if you don't mind loosing the modules

[woeful sierra]

Wait what? The modules will go away if the ship blow up?

[onyx crow]

I believe so

You'll keep your laser and components, but the modules will be lost

[woeful sierra]

Oh I thought they are permanent

Ok, thank you

[onyx crow]

Think of modules as consumables

sort of

[woeful sierra]

Even the passive ones?

[onyx crow]

ah, never used the passive ones, but I would assume so

or no, nvm

scratch that

[woeful sierra]

And what are you recommending for modules?

[onyx crow]

but I do think they'd be lost in detonate

depends, are you going for big rocks or the reg size rocks?

[woeful sierra]

I do not know, like the ones in my video? There are some bigger?

[onyx crow]

<5k = reg ..... >5.5k big rocks

up to 8k

8.5k

[woeful sierra]

Oh just what I can find, I was finding like 5 - 6k

[onyx crow]

which you wouldn't bust with a single prospector w/out surge/stampede modules

[woeful sierra]

Oh ok, so the solo ones.

[onyx crow]

So there's solo prossy with particular modules that can bust with surge/stampede

[neon moth]

You can crack an 8k rock with a prospector. It's annoying though

[onyx crow]

then there's solo busting without the surge only being able to bust up to 5k

[woeful sierra]

I am running Branot, Surge, FLTR XL .. thats not good?

[onyx crow]

Not if you want to bust anything above 5k

[woeful sierra]

But I do not understand the Surge much .. not used yet 😄

[neon moth]

Replace the brandt with stampede

[onyx crow]

Surge is an instant boost

in power

[woeful sierra]

But in the description it has only cons

[woeful sierra]

Is that good? It is boosting instability

[neon moth]

You'll need to use surge a lot to understand where to pop it on different mass rocks to land in the green zone. Afterwards, the stampede will assist in cracking it faster

Basically most rocks you'll raise the charge about 20%, pop surge. Hopefully you land in the green zone, hit stampede and it should crack it within 7-10 seconds.

It's hit and miss until you get good at using it and I blew myself into orbit a few times on lyria getting cocky.

[woeful sierra]

So if I understand, I pop surge for the instability reduction, then I pop the other one for faster cracking right?

[onyx crow]

pop surge to boost your power up

basically to get into the green zone

[neon moth]

Surge isn't for instability reduction. It increases your charge instantly. Imagine like a massive power surge.

[woeful sierra]

Oh right, that is the brandt

[onyx crow]

not boost power, but boost your lasers surge

[woeful sierra]

So in my eyes Surge is really deadly thing

[neon moth]

And you need to pray with stampede it holds in the green zone until it cracks. Or also hope you don't surge it into the red and get blasted back to the med bay.

[onyx crow]

so as example, if you were to go in right from the start and hit surge, you would almost be in the green zone

if not in the green zone

which is why beef said earlier, hit it about at the 20% zone

[neon moth]

^ depending on the rock size this. The larger rocks require a bit more power into the charge first.

[woeful sierra]

So that is really only for faster cracking?

[onyx crow]

not faster cracking but for being able to get to crack .... cuz you don't have to power to get your laser into the green if it's a big enough rock

faster, yes, if it's a smaller rock, sort of

[neon moth]

No you won't be able to hit the optimal charge on a rock without surging it. You can sit there all day. You could also use a Boremax gadget which can assist, but not necessary if you're used to the older methods.

[woeful sierra]

Oh ... ok, but if you cant crack it without the surge how can you keep yourself in the green area? The progress will be going down?

[neon moth]

Stampede

Maintains the green area and speeds up the process

[woeful sierra]

Oh that is for 60sec

That will be enough to crack?

I see.

[neon moth]

You understand the basics that we described. I suggest watching Loud Guns mining vid on surge and stampede to see the visual now

[woeful sierra]

Ye I think I just try it to know how it works 🙂

But thanks for the basics

[onyx crow]

and then for the 3rd module , there's vaux which lowers instability. Keep it from jumping up and down so much ... but the 3rd module is more pref it seems.

surge/stampede seems to be an absolute must if you want anything above the 5k range

good luck out there!

[woeful sierra]

The brandt also reducing instability

Like a lot

[safe urchin]

So when you guys are quant mining, you dont expect to fill your hull with entirely quantanium right?

Just cause the probability of finding a high percentage rock is low?

[onyx crow]

try to but not everytime

[safe urchin]

How long do you search/where do you search?

[onyx crow]

I personally search on Arc > Lyria

[safe urchin]

Cause the halo is bugged?

I'm on lyria too

[onyx crow]

and the halo doesn't have anything bigger than a 5k rock

It all just depends on the rock you find

[safe urchin]

yeah but it has more rocks close together so isn't that a higher probability of finding a better rock?

[onyx crow]

meh

not necessarily

You can find a single 8k with a good 40% Q

it's all luck though

[safe urchin]

I've never seen a rock with over 10% on lyria, is there a method of searching?

[onyx crow]

You def gotta know how to scout rocks

Check out the scouting vid in the pins here

by Cross

[ivory gust]

Split among how many people?

[thin escarp]

3-4 at most 5 when i'm spreading the love

[safe urchin]

ok ty

[cobalt cedar]

Hi does anyone know how I can get the refined ores back from the refinery? I claimed my order to my ship but they aren’t there

[onyx crow]

You claimed your order and put them on a ship to haul?

[cobalt cedar]

Yeah

Na it’s like assorted ores I rented a prospector

Would it still not show up?

[fallen atlas]

You won't see the ores in the inventory of the ship or anything like that. Only in the terminals

[cobalt cedar]

Ok I got worried for a bit

I’m trying to save up for a prospector so I can mine quant

[fallen atlas]

Cargo != storage. Until the cargo refactor comes around we won't see that stuff in the ships inventories.

[ivory gust]

You can go to admin console of station in galleria and it will show what's in your ship

Also note that there's a bug where rented ships stay in the list even after expiry, so be careful when delivering cargo from refinery that it's not an expired rented ship

[cobalt cedar]

This is my first time selling so I’ll find out soon I guess

Thanks for your guys help

[ivory gust]

ROC mining is probably more lucrative than mining non-Quant stuff in a Prospector

[ivory gust]

Yep, it can take a while sometimes, but I've never gone that long without finding one. Sorry you had a frustrating experience. For me at least, the advantages of asteroid mining outweigh the disadvantages of scanning being crap right now, but not everyone will feel the same.

Also, I think there's totally a hidden "luck" stat for our characters that results in some people never finding good rocks in the halo and some of us finding 30+ SCU rocks within ten minutes every time...

[vast verge]

Hey guys, is the Lancet MH1 the end all be all mining head for the prospector or are there other ones I should consider looking into?

thanks, also if i only have a prospector, what ship should I look to rent to freight my refined items?

[stark torrent]

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Constellation Andromeda

The Constellation Andromeda is a multi-person freighter manufactured by Roberts Space Industries (RSI). It is the base model of the Constellation series. It comes with a P-52 Merlin docked at the stern as a snub fighter.

Role

Medium Freight

Crew

3 – 4

Cargo

96.00 SCU

Length

61.00m

Height

14.00m

Beam

26.00m

Mass

430,057 Kg

Combat Speed

144 m/s

Max Speed

911 m/s

In-Game Price

3,548,000 aUEC

Pledge Price

US$240.00

Status

Flight Ready

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[vast verge]

gotcha, thanks!

[north oyster]

The cutty rental appears to be cheaper out at the new stations that were just added, below 30k aUEC

Do not rent for more that 24hr. There's a bug that will overcharge you

[umbral rune]

is there any way (upgrades or other parts) to make the prospector less... drifty and slow to correct?

[north oyster]

That you own?

[umbral rune]

yes

[north oyster]

The drift issue is a bug

[umbral rune]

really? I just thought it was slow af to adjust

[hardy root]

Best places to mine with cutty and roc?

[north oyster]

I thought it was my joysticks messing up at first

[north oyster]

Aberdeen

[umbral rune]

I'm in it now, it's perfectly usable just a bit chunky feeling

[north oyster]

Need the Pembroke armor

[hardy root]

@north oyster ok i will look into that , thanks!

[north oyster]

All the compliments can be updated

[north oyster]

When you load your ROC, QT to OM-1 and dive to the surface from there. Always daylight there

[umbral rune]

I've swapped out shield and QT drive, also mining head ofc

[hardy root]

@north oyster thanks for the tip!

[fallen atlas]

@north oyster you're eligible for a role. You may want to ask modmail

you're over the message count for Freelancer

[hardy root]

And where is the fastest place to go too, to sell

[ivory gust]

Freelancer instead of cutlass if you're renting for hauling ore. Can carry two full Prospector loads instead of only 1.5 like Cutlass and it's only a little more expensive to rent.

Andromeda if you have 6+ loads to haul I think, since being able to make fewer trips probably makes it worth it

[hardy root]

Ok, how do i know if they have a admin station?

Ok

ok thanks

[vast verge]

thank you!

[safe urchin]

can I break a quant rock that is 7800 mass in my prospector with the lancet?

is it possible to switch those out while i'm not in a station?

Is there a way to mark this location?

or would a gadget help break it?

[uncut grotto]

is lyria still the best place for quantanium mining?

[vast verge]

how often would you be likely to find a 4k mass >30% quant rock in a given hour?

[uncut grotto]

no clue about now
i heard they changed scanning in 3.17

but i had a lot of luck quantanium mining in 3.16 and earlier

[hardy root]

can i buy pembroke armor at everus harbur?

[wary tusk]

Universal Item Finder

Use the website to search for any item (and where to buy them) in-game.

[crimson oak]

Anyone else having moments where every single rock is a ghost rock/unscannable?

[hardy root]

thanks!

[safe urchin]

yes, especially in the halo

[crimson oak]

Not just the halo, also on lyria

[unique flame]

a LOT of rocks are broken atm, make use of the scanner to sus them out before wasting too much time

[crimson oak]

lyria used to be a favorite precisely because it rarely/never had ghost rocks

[umbral rune]

I've experienced them a lot

I think it has something to do with a server being up too long, but that's a guess at best

[hardy root]

should i buy the pembroke helmet too?

[fallen atlas]

If you're needing to survive on a hot celestial body, absolutely get the full set.

[hardy root]

ok thanks

[cerulean lichen]

Got a unicorn mining!

[thin escarp]

@fallen atlas how do we get roles

i just woke up with this one

one day

https://tenor.com/view/firefly-serenity-malcolm-reynolds-captain-tightpants-nathan-fillion-gif-4816189

[oak shard]

Where abouts is the best spot to make money with the mole?

[unique flame]

the halo probably, same as the prospector

[hardy root]

So i am in my space ship, and my armor is not showing up in inventory

[unique flame]

it's not really a luck thing, if you use your scanner you're not going to come even near a ghost rock

it sorta dilutes the available rocks to mine but overall there's a sphere of possible rocks instead of just 360 degrees

cause they're not scanning (correctly)

i see tons of ghost rocks, i just don't ever need to get any closer to figure out they're ghosts

just like i ignore P/M/E types

[hardy root]

in my local

[unique flame]

plus i dunno if you're solo but mining in a mole in gravity sounds like a pain

unless someone is always at the helm

[oak shard]

I guess I could give the halo and lyria a go, how abouts do you get to this halo?

👍

[unique flame]

https://cstone.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes

had an interactive 3d map that tells you exactly where you need to cut your drive

[oak shard]

Thanks 😄

[fallen atlas]

Message @noble viper

Role eligibility is listed in #rules_and_information

[fallen atlas]

Also, you're a specialist, so that role takes precedent over all of the chatter roles

[thin escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/anchorman-ron-burgundy-will-ferrell-im-kind-of-a-big-deal-gif-4087082

@fallen atlas ily

[worthy scroll]

I've been here for years and never paid attention to those roles. Looks like I qualify for one, and am close to another.

[oblique osprey]

Is Boremax and Optimax a good combo, for solo Prospector mining

If this chart I'm looking at is accurate, I feel like Optimax, while it takes away slightly from the -Resistance, which is possibly fine, but helps balance the instability irregularities, and increases the optimal charge window and rate. It sounds really good?...

And then Boremax of course just helps drain the Resistance so larger rocks can be done solo

I'm new but I'm assuming this would be the outcome?

[ivory gust]

Give them a shot to see if you like them. Personally, I found gadgets to be very annoying to use

Most people don't bother and just use lancet, surge, stampede

[oblique osprey]

i see. thx

can that combo crack the largest Quants on Lyria?

I have a Focus 3, for now, as well. Just cuz I'm new and I'm not sure the limits, so I'm using it to cut Resistance a bit.

[unique flame]

no. i did 1 boremax on an 8.1k and couldn't crack it

it might need 2 boremaxes

[coarse gyro]

so if i rent a prospector for 3 days how much more profitable would that be than roc mining

[vast verge]

i wouldn't recommend renting a prospector because you won't be able to change out the mining head to the lancet which will hinder your efficiency

[unique flame]

did they patch that bug/exploit where you could quick-swap the ship equipment screens to still be able to change the head on a rented prospector?

[coarse gyro]

word

i've got a rented cutty to hold my roc for now

[unique flame]

https://youtu.be/lt99t0KA4iI?t=636

that's from 3 days ago so i think not?

either way a load of quant is 130k in one rock if you sell it raw and 260k refined after 2 days

it's quite a bit faster than hadanite hopping

but that's only with the ability to swap the mining head, a locked rented prospector is a bit meh

[ivory gust]

Relying on bugs to swap out the equipment of a rented ship doesn't seem like a good long term plan

[coarse gyro]

yeah hesitant to do that so will stick w the cutty for now

[unique flame]

doesn't need to be really

couple good hauls and you can swap the rented one for a bought one

[ivory gust]

not sure where you're from but 8 is not a "couple" to me

[gentle mortar]

Learned this the hard way

[north oyster]

Thanks, not sure I understand 🙂

[fallen atlas]

#rules_and_information has message counts for certain roles.

[gentle ibex]

are there more unscannable rocks than before :/ ?

[north oyster]

Yes, it's especially bad when SoO is running

[cunning fiber]

Is it still risky to cargo run now?

Like if the server crashes or if you crash or DC you lose all your money?

[worthy scroll]

Thar be quantanium in yonder race track.

[marble crater]

Time to get the Prospector racer out

[worthy scroll]

🤘

[vast verge]

Is it possible to give my friend my items from my refinery to deliver for me?

[plush maple]

no not currently

[ivory gust]

Server crash you're safe, client crash or disconnect you're doomed

[frigid sedge]

just lost 500k items because of a server connection failure

[ionic orbit]

yo will my mining modules save if i log out

[ivory gust]

If you log out with the ship stored at a station or city, yes.

If you bedlog in the ship, probably.

If you just exit from the menu while out in the ship, no.

[ionic orbit]

okok

thanks

[coarse gyro]

is there a bug with the roc going into a ship?

cutty specifically

i saw someone else mention a 30k bringing a roc into a cutty

was doin the same and got one

[coral crypt]

I'm not seeing a list of price of refined ores in the pins, so if you want I made this:
helps beginners to know what to prioritize

[noble obsidian]

Yo rq will a roc fit into the back of a 400i

[coral crypt]

What does laser power do? vs resistance for example?

[neon moth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AprsLAJnCdw

[oblique osprey]

How do I bring a Gadget from under my backpack into my hands?....

[coral crypt]

rip

[noble obsidian]

Thanks

[gaunt fiber]

Going to be doing some mining in a few mins if anyone wants to join

[crimson oak]

Anyone have much experience with those mining gadgets? I tried to place one on a rock for the first time and it just dropped to the ground and clipped through it

20k for something that just drops through the map

[shell cosmos]

anyone mining? Looking for a mining buddy

[dusky portal]

Is quant still the go to ore? If so is Lyria still the best place to mine?

[ivory gust]

Yes, anything other than quant is meh.

Two best places are either Aaron Halo or Lyria. Some people like one, some people like the other

[plush maple]

id recommend Lyria currently- ive heard the belt mining is glitchy since the new update

[cobalt rivet]

Lyria

[stray ibex]

anyone know where i can rent a mining ship, and anone wanna mine as a group

[hardy root]

which would make more money prospector or cutty and roc?

[drowsy roost]

could anyone help me crack theses two rocks ?

[hollow sedge]

@hardy root full Prospectors with 100% pure quant is 250k one run, just depends how fast you find rock, and how good it is

[cunning fiber]

So if there is a 30K (server crash) you still lose all your cargo if you are mid-flight? or did they fix that?

I thought I read somewhere they fixed that

[fading escarp]

if you retrieve your ship, it will still carry what you had.

if you claim it, then it'll be gone.

[cunning fiber]

So I have to search for my ship?

[fading escarp]

it should be on the ASOP where you wake up

[cunning fiber]

So you should be able to just spawn it again?

"retrieve"

[fading escarp]

yes, like you normally spawn / retrieve your ship

[cunning fiber]

And thjat also works in the event of a 30K where I was not landed anywhere?

[fading escarp]

if there's a claim, then you're F'ed

[elfin granite]

Hi guys, new at the mining stuff. Looking to invest some of my money and time in it. What do you guys think is the best option?
Get a ship like the freelancer en ROC-DS, or going for the prospector?

[fading escarp]

so, what could have happened. You flew to an outpost. You bought some commodity. You were headed back to CBD/TDD. Somewhere you crashed.

as you wake up in your hotel, probably your home, probably near CBD/TDD. you can then go to ASOP, retrieve your ship. Verify it's full. go to CBD/TDD and make profit.

not the DS, just teh ROC

[cunning fiber]

So you mean they should have fixed it now?

if everything works correctly

[fading escarp]

the DS is dual person operated

this is Alpha, there are a LOT of shoulds

[cunning fiber]

Ye, thanks

[elfin granite]

So if you're with a 2 man crew, just get 2 roc's then ?

[fading escarp]

ROC v prospector.. two different game loops. Crystals v boulders

1 man flies the ship, scouts, drops of the ROC. 2nd person mines the crystals while 1st man scouts for new crystals

from my last interactions with crystals and ROC mining. I did a LOT of scouting for very little ...

when I was first introduced. the scout could find the new spot, while I was still mining with the ROC

[elfin granite]

So you woudnt do the ROC and go goe the prospector ?

[zenith maple]

I wonder if I can fit 2 ROC's in my constelation easily. could be fun running a DUNE like mining operation

[fading escarp]

it's been a LOOOOONG time since I did any ROC or Pros mining

succesful*

nope, only 1 ROC

black and MSR - yes 2 or even 3 ROCs

[zenith maple]

you sure, it has so much room on the platform

[elfin granite]

Ok. Thanks for the info !

[fading escarp]

I can only fit one ROC on my andro

[zenith maple]

need parachute module for them, so we can just airdrop

[fading escarp]

there's 1 or 2 threads per year for 10 years

each of them linking to the previous one

[zenith maple]

Seems you can fit 2 ROCs in the aquila, but its a high risk game

[marble crater]

that looks like an explosion waiting to happen lol

[zenith maple]

considering this was the other image I got...

[bright peak]

There is so much info out there in active modules but not so much on passive. If I were to mine in the halo and not need a surge module what passive modules would be best in the halo?

[rugged axle]

Halo I run either 2 fltr xls(reduces inert material extraction = more quant per load).

Or a surge,vaux/xtr-xl, and fltr xl.
Xtr increases extraction rate, so you get done faster extracting = more time to fly back, and faster turn around.

I always carry a surge to speed up initial break.

None are required though. You can break everything in the halo without modules at all.

[buoyant pewter]

I'm definitely going to have to try the 2fltr xls's cause it seems like I get to safety just by the skin of my teeth all the time.and if your carrying a full load Quant. That sucks t

[rugged axle]

You can also run a rieger c3, which greatly increases the green zone. Making it easier/safer to break

Fltrs won't give you more time. Just instead of having 28scu quant and the rest inert. You'll have 32scu of quant off the same rock

If your having trouble getting back, I would suggest xtr-xl(faster extraction), surge(faster initial break), and either a rieger c3(bigger green zone, easier to break without overheating) or fltr-xl(less inert = more quant per load)

Make sure you set your route BEFORE extracting the first quant. Saves time that way

[marble crater]

The timer only starts after you first extract the quant. Breaking it all down first then extracting should leave you with loads of time

[alpine geyser]

Best spot for mining quant?

[rugged axle]

Halo or lyria.

[gentle mortar]

Is there a recommended loadout for the Prospector for quant mining on Lyria?

Both the mining head and ship components

I asked chat and they can't decide between VK and Atlas

Does VK eat a lot into mining profits?

[keen briar]

Are rocks not scanning or something?

What happened

[marble crater]

VK-00 is great once you have your location setup

[wary tusk]

#DPSCalculator

• Calculator • Shops • Ships • Weapons •

[gentle mortar]

Thanks! I'll look into it

Seems like VK eats almost 3x as much QT fuel for about 7% less travel time compared to Atlas.

It would be useful if I'm rushing quant but the simple solution to that is leave before it explodes lole

[clever iron]

how should i start trading

are the routes on sc trade tools good?

[hardy root]

is dolivine woth mining with roc?

[clever iron]

is andromeda big enough

[marble crater]

Depends if you have found your spot yet. My mining ships are always parked at ARCL1 and only go to the Halo or Lyria so Quantum efficiency means nothing to me when I barely use 1/5th of a tank

[real ingot]

your lucky to get 50 scu of laranite.everyone gobbles it up so fast lol

[hardy root]

how do i get rid of a lvl 1 crime stat, i bumped into a building

[wary tusk]

Criminal Life

• [Clearing CrimeStat](#976514975646482472 message) • [Serve Prison Sentence](#976514975646482472 message) •

Only naughty people go to prison.

[gentle mortar]

I'm planning to only mine on Lyria. I don't know how much does QT fuel costs, I'll have to check if mining profits outweigh the fuel costs.

[lofty bone]

is there anywhere around arc corp where i can ROC mine?

[thin escarp]

@keen briar thats the halo for ya

@gentle mortar fuel costs are irrelevant when it comes to mining quant

i also have some guides pinned in this channel with loadouts etc

[gentle mortar]

Thanks. The loadouts are also applicable for solo mining yeah

[thin escarp]

yes

[gentle mortar]

also what button do you press to use mining consumables

[ivory gust]

How do you figure only 7% less travel time? VK-00 is 283km/s, Atlas is only like 150

[gentle mortar]

I just compared at the travel time between atlas and vk

Not very in depth though since I didn't set the destinations

[elfin granite]

where and how can u do the hauling contracts ?

[junior crescent]

how's trading cargo doing at the moment?

[halcyon light]

how can i transfer things from the ship to the station without dragging one by one?

[alpine geyser]

dont think that function exists yet

[coarse cape]

Halo is still good to quant mine yeah?

[ivory gust]

What do you mean "hauling contracts"? There are delivery missions, where you collect a handful of boxes and deliver them elsewhere, is that what you mean? You can do those near any planet

[ivory gust]

It's tolerable money if you have a Caterpillar or C2 (or maybe Carrack). Anything smaller than that and it won't make big money but can still do it if you find it fun

[ivory gust]

Can try setting up a transfer macro with something like Voice Attack. I wasn't able to get it running as fast as the example here, though--I had to have 100ms delays after each step otherwise it flipped out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoBBEAxF1rA

[ivory gust]

There are a lot of unscannable asteroids, but as long as you're good at scanning you can still do fine in the halo

[rugged kelp]

hey how far is the halo between ARC L1 and Hurston?

[ivory gust]

https://cstone.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes

[coarse cape]

Aight thanks

[rugged kelp]

ohh this is awesome! thank you!

[reef smelt]

I haven’t played since before 3.17.2 and I was wondering if the MOLE is still broken.

[spare cairn]

mole is fixed i can scout for you im cheap

[humble furnace]

looking for group to mine with

weapons screen maybe

[spare cairn]

any one need a scout i am cheap to hire

[safe urchin]

what QT drive should I put on a prospector

if you're in the prospector, i've noticed if I hold F and then look up to the instruments panel above my head it'll show the active module name and then the charge count in brackets

yup!

ok thanks!

[safe urchin]

how much?

[spare cairn]

5k upon finding and less than 10% after in the refinry

[spare cairn]

join the mole vc

[safe urchin]

I can't vc, family sleeping

[safe urchin]

are you able to party and join on me? Or are you working with other people, also i'm in a prospector

[brittle rose]

so guys, im about to purchase a prospector. i know of quantanium mining and how to slice rocks. what mining head should i purchase and is there anything more i shuld know before i set out?

[meager gorge]

Most people prefer the lancet mining head for quantanium mining. Quant explodes 14 ish minutes after you mine it. Recommend looking for 20% or greater quant rocks.

[brittle rose]

appreciated. and you find these only in space right? any tips on finding them? @meager gorge

[low gyro]

What’s the best cargo hauling website guide right now?

[worthy scroll]

I prefer

https://sc-trade.tools/home

[low gyro]

Thanks

[meager gorge]

The Aaron halo belt is a good spot to mine for them, the surface of lyria is another good spot 🙂

[brittle rose]

thank you sir!

[brittle rose]

got it

[brittle rose]

is there anything i need to know when equipping modules? or just have them on

[gentle mortar]

First time mining in a Prospector, spent about 40 minutes and I found a 5k rock with 33% quant. I managed to break it before it turned red but it still knocked my ship out into orbit. Fell to my doom

[brittle rose]

sold a stack of quantanium for 10k

hmmmmm i need m o r e

[brittle rose]

Am i doing this correctly?

[cyan mountain]

At which point should I stop bothering with rock mass?

7k was way too large

6k borderline impossibile

5 doable

In my case at least

[meager gorge]

I think beyond 5k you’re going to want to use modules in a prospector or have a mole using multiple lasers.

[cyan mountain]

I found a 7k rock with 44%

Man

What a pity

[marble comet]

I mean if you got another person you could crack it

[jagged whale]

Where do I sell gasping weevil eggs?

[brittle rose]

i have just earned just short of 300k within an hour

i love mining

[restive creek]

is it worth being on lyria or the belt this patch

[gaunt fiber]

Going to be ROC mining for the next hour or two DM me if you'd like to join

[serene quest]

Belt is pretty rough this patch

[restive creek]

thanks friend

[rugged axle]

@cyan mountain if you find a rock like that...ask someone else with a prospector to help you mine it. that rock would have filled both prospectors to the brim

[spare cairn]

anyone want a scout

for quant

[brittle rose]

what processing method would you guys reocmmend?

[gaunt fiber]

if you want the fastest and willing to spend money - Faron Exchange

If you want to save some money and can spare the time - Dinex Solvenation

They both have the highest yield

[jagged whale]

What do I do in this situation

It's a rental ship and there's a damn ton of quant on board

[strong kestrel]

did you already try re-storing it?

[jagged whale]

At least 10 times

[strong kestrel]

i haven't tried it myself, but i've heard you can take off components from rentals by directly equipping the component to another ship. give that a try with the power plant while the ship's stored

although you'd need another ship with the same size powerplant to try it

[meager gorge]

Couldn’t you stack boxes and try and reach it?

[brittle rose]

how do i use my mining modules?

[clever iron]

which makes more money if i were to rent the equipment

roc mining or ship mining

[ivory gust]

ROC mining. Ship mining isn't good with a rented Prospector since you can't swap the mining head, so you can't (reasonably) mine quantanium, so won't make very much money

[hollow sedge]

@brittle rose, @gentle mortar and @cyan mountain. A lot of people doing mining alone, but its big benefit if you doing it in groups with more people. So like many other say, yea you should not go for rocks witch are above 5k MASS. When rock is bigger, then yea you need modules with Lancet mining head to get more power. People using different setups, so surge/stampede modules are cheapest ones, but some other ones cost a lot of USCs. If you explode rock and you destroy your ship, or some pirate kill you, or you crash into station, only mining head will be still with your ship, but not modules, so you gonna loose them and then you loose money. So best solution is just equip Lancet mining head, and find some other people who like to mine, and go together.

Point is that 2 Lancet mining head can brake any bigest rock on Lyria, witch is near 9k MASS, so you dont need any modules. When I em mining with my group, we always help each other, sometimes is 10-12 of us mining together, thats whole point of the game, to do stuff with alot of people, not alone, then is not boring, and its beneficial 👍

[astral oasis]

Does anyone have any good spreadsheet templates for keeping track of mining orders and payouts for group mining?

[gentle mortar]

My first time mining was with a group and it was very fun. Since I was new I didn't do much besides stabilising the rock, so the harshness of solo mining hit me like a truck.

Though I would like to solo mine because I can just chill at my own pace.

I just mined my first load of 771 mass/cSCU and used Ferron Exchange at the refinery. I used uexcorp's calculator and the refining time is off compared to mine.

Is raw quant price the same across all stations?

[cyan mountain]

Yes

[glacial dagger]

What sort of numbers are you dealing with, a single Mole and a couple of spotters or multiple mining ships?

If you let me know your rough numbers, I can help write upa quick one

For example, here are some mock data entries I did to test my google sheets linking was working properly.

[hollow sedge]

@glacial dagger can you show some of them ?

[glacial dagger]

Bare in mind, this is purely for quant mining only

The way this level of organisation goes is as follows;

1. A spotter finds the quant rock and a team comes over to inspect it

2. if the Team accepts it, the spotter uses the google forms set up for spotters to say which team has collected on the rock(s), what percentage and how many there are that the team will be collecting on.

3. Once the mining team have colelcted, during their quantum trip back to the refinary or at the refinary once the ship has been stored, they fill in the miners form, including where it's refiningm what method their refining, and how much quant in in the refinary deal

4. once the two forms have been filled out, the spreadsheets will automatically churn through the data and add/subtract amounts where and when their needed

5. At the end (pictures 5 and 6), the amounts are tallied for each team and scout, with who needs to pay who what amount

6. (optional) This is an org based mining sheet, meaning there is a 20% cut to go towards the org bank, but that's purely optional/not needed for smaller scale operations

[glacial dagger]

All done. Take a look and lemme know if you would be interested in something similar 😄

A long bit of the page taken up, but it was needed to properly explain it all

[jagged whale]

Trouble is that it's a rental

[gentle mortar]

Thanks for this. I'm trying to make my own spreadsheet and this is a good ref

[glacial dagger]

Good luck. If you need a hand, hit me up

[royal cairn]

I’d store and switch servers tbh, only other way I’ve been able to fix it was getting a different hangar by luck.

[jagged whale]

I did something stupid and pledged a mole for solo mining, can I land and get in the laser seat? Or do they come down too far that it'd press against the ground

[jagged whale]

I've tried that, it's only 300k worth of quant, I may just forget it

[royal cairn]

Dang

[glacial dagger]

You can indeed land and mine. However, they fixed the dropping issue, so you should be able to stay in the air while mining planet side

personally I still prefer going into the Aaron halo though

[hollow sedge]

@glacial dagger yea that s great what you show. Thing is what I em doing is that I have a lot of mining ships, 6 Prospectors and 3 Moles for now, and some times is almost all of them mining at same time out on Lyria.( teaching new people how to get into mining every day) So I have enuf USC always to pay them insta out money, so they dont have to wait for refinerie jobs. So I need to make tickets myself always, I em owner of ships. So what i would need is some mcuh simpler stuf in spreadsheats, but I didint figure out what every thing i would nee to be in them, to include scouts, impounding ships,(important thing) and how much cut to get becouse for renting ships.

[glacial dagger]

For the user side, they just have a form to fill in that takes like 8s for scouts and at max 40s for the mining crew

[hollow sedge]

@glacial dagger can you tell me how much usual scouts getting % ??

[glacial dagger]

Have a look in the last picture bud

<30% is 25k, 30% - 355 is 50k, >35% is 65k

Then again, these can all be change in my spreadsheet and then be reflected across any and all calculations thanks to referencing

[hollow sedge]

I see that, but i just asking that 30% cut is determine from org, or is agreement between scout and mining crew ?

[glacial dagger]

oh, you might not be able to see it that clearly then. Nahh, the org cut is 20% over on the right hand side

The percentages are determined before hand so that correct amounts can be inputted before hand

[hollow sedge]

a ok

[cyan mountain]

should i give another shot to the halo?

[ancient pilot]

Hey everyone, best place to go ROC mining since the last update? I've tried Daymore but it just seems empty?

[cyan mountain]

Aberdeen

[ancient pilot]

Thanks ❤️

[astral oasis]

Thank you that helps alot. I have a new created org, and we have started large scale mining ops to help fund eachother and to fund our bank.

[glacial dagger]

Godspeed my friend, and good luck

[oblique osprey]

Where's closest spot to sell refined quant from Arc-L1? Area18?

[cyan mountain]

yup

[oblique osprey]

thx. and am i looking for admin office, or something diff

[cyan mountain]

TDD

[misty coyote]

Test Driven Development?

[gentle mortar]

Just finished my first refinery order but I can't store it on my ship. I press Select Storage Option and nothing pops up. Already tried storing, retrieving and reclaiming my Prospector

[ivory gust]

Prospector can't carry refined ore, only raw

[bold sphinx]

o7 as far as i know the prospector can only hold unrefined material you will need a cargo ship like the cutlass black or another dedicated cargo hauler

[ivory gust]

You can rent a hauler until you're able to buy one. Rental options:
Cutlass Black, 46 SCU
Freelancer, 66 SCU
Constellation Andromeda, 96 SCU

If you're looking to buy a hauler for ore, the Freelancer MAX is probably the most efficient beginning one at 120 SCU for 2.2M

[gentle mortar]

Thanks guys. Definitely news to me. I have a Cutlass Steel but it's not presenting as an option either. Maybe the Steel doesn't have enough SCU?

[bold sphinx]

according to the RSI pledgestore site of the Cutlass Steel the Cutlass steel has no cargo space at all 😦

[ivory gust]

Correct, the Cutlass steel has 0 cargo

[gentle mortar]

Ouch

MSR it is then

[ivory gust]

You already have one?

[gentle mortar]

Yes it's my main ship but I've been opting to use smaller ships recently

[bold sphinx]

Is the MSR worth it? Thinking about pledgeing for one..

[ivory gust]

MSR is certainly usable for hauling but it's the same space as the MAX for double the price

[gentle mortar]

It's all about aesthetic. As a hauler MSR is decent

[ivory gust]

No. It's way overpriced for what it currently offers. We need to see what the data running gameplay ends up being before we can know if it's worth it

[bold sphinx]

thank you very much for your info o7

[gentle mortar]

Oh I get it now. The Steel doesn't have any physical floor space for the refined ores. Makes sense.

[bold sphinx]

yeah im interested as well when it comes to Data running/storing whatever it will be and thats why i thought about CCU´ing my Cutlass black to an MSR

[ivory gust]

If you like the looks you can certainly get one but at least in the current version of the game the "value" is very low.

Same space as a MAX, worse guns than a Constellation, more expensive than either. Consider a Constellation Taurus instead if you're wanting a larger versatile ship

We also don't know what the data running gameplay will look like so I recommend not putting money on it until you know it's something you'll like

[gentle mortar]

Essentially only get it if you like how it looks

Cheaper ships that can do just the same. Also isn't the MSR advertised as a blockade runner? The weak guns should be sensible

[bold sphinx]

i like the looks entirely but chris speaks the truth.. unless we know more/know of the data running/processing gameplay i will wait to pledge

[ivory gust]

The looks are great but it has so much wasted space and is way bigger than it needs to be. The access tunnels under the ship are pointless and bulk it up for no reason, there's a ton of unused space on the starboard side of the model, and if you're doing something like ROC mining where you go in and out a lot you will very quickly come to hate the doors and that elevator

[bold sphinx]

yeah i can see that part first time i here about the access tunnels under the ship tho.. I think i know what i´ll do when the next free flight for Crusader comes around

[cyan mountain]

where do i sell waste?

[ivory gust]

https://sc-trade.tools/home

Look at commodities

[onyx lake]

What makes more sense to use as a miner since I almost always have mined quantanium solo in the past? I am considering pledging for a prospector or a mole. The main questions I have are; how much more difficult is it to solo mine in the mole compared to the prospector and can the pilot of the mole scan rocks to see what percentages of ore they contain without switching to a mining laser seat?

[digital zephyr]

#looking-for-session

[jagged whale]

There's quant on this thing...

[ivory gust]

owned or rented?

[jagged whale]

Rented sadly

[ivory gust]

yep, you're boned. consider it an expensive lesson about turning off your engines when parking

[jagged whale]

The thing is that I did, I always do engines first then power

But I used the kruger, so maybe i forgot to turn that off

[ivory gust]

"engines first then power" ...so I then U?

[jagged whale]

I use sticks so unfamiliar with pc binds, I turn off my engines when I land, make sure I'm good and safe, then I turn off my entire ships power before exiting the ship

[ivory gust]

Got it. At least on the keyboard, U is "toggle power" so if you turn off engines, then hit U, it will turn the engines back on while turning shields/guns off

[jagged whale]

Oh... Maybe that's what happened then

[ivory gust]

Check your bindings to see if you have your joystick bound to "toggle power" or "power off"

[jagged whale]

Toggle power all, so that explains it

[turbid roost]

Hello Legends.
any veteran hauler that can help me with info?
with current patch is it worth to do small runs between planets and moon?

[ivory gust]

What do you mean by "small runs"?

And "worth it" in comparison to what?

[grand steppe]

does anyone else feel like there is something going on with the mole and VTOL not working sometimes in hangers?

ive had some odd experiences lately

[jagged whale]

Works good for me, no problems since I bought it

[cyan mountain]

im at cru l5 but i dont know wheres the no questions asked terminal

i have 6 scu of slam that i want to sell

[grand steppe]

I had a run with Quant and VTOL on and still fell like a rock coming in to land in hanger on Arc-L1. So i tested after that issue and had no issue even with my limiter at near zero it left and came back in no issues..

[ivory gust]

IMO actually landing is too risky anyway given how many people have reported their quant going critical right on landing. Just hover close to a hangar to get impounded and move on

[grand steppe]

happened twice now, but Ill keep watching it. Seems like its only with a load too.

[robust berry]

how much money would i get per SCU of quant ?

[ivory gust]

8800 per refined SCU. If refining, amount per unrefined SCU depends on what station you're at and what refining method you use.

4400 per unrefined SCU if you sell the ore directly.

[robust berry]

so only 52800 for 6 SCU? Wow that sucks lol

[ivory gust]

...why would you ever have only 6 SCU of quant

[jagged whale]

Autoland fixed that for me

[ivory gust]

I'm scared to autoland in hangars after Lorville nearly destroyed my Freelancer MAX once

[jagged whale]

Just gotta get it somewhat centered in the mole or it'll run you into the wall

[jagged whale]

Yeah, it's very bad at figuring out ship acceleration

so just center it well so it only has to make micro adjustments

[ivory gust]

Wasn't just acceleration, it decided that it wanted the ship to be pointed a different direction and tried to turn it around

[jagged whale]

Oh my

Yeah that's not good haha

[robust berry]

cause i cant find any on lyria

[ivory gust]

Then you're not looking very hard

[jagged whale]

Man, Lyria has been a goldmine for me today

[grand steppe]

ya auto land for a friend last night was not his friend, put the nose of the mole directly in to the wall and he lost it all

[jagged whale]

Oh damn

[robust berry]

u wanna mine with me?

[jagged whale]

Oh, also your name felt familiar, I just remembered you're the dude who gave me the money to try the F7C ghost haha

[jagged whale]

What are you in?

[robust berry]

prospector

[grand steppe]

I just dont think mole mining is worth it. I can zoom 3 full prospector loads in the time it takes me to fill a mole and deal with the odd vtol issues ive seen personally

or worth it this patch

im still keeping it !

[jagged whale]

Gonna take me a bit to get to Lyria, but if you want to group up I can help you scout

[robust berry]

Bet

[jagged whale]

I don't know man, probably true but those hauls are huge and consistent

But it is my first day of ownership so...

Maybe I'm just lucky today

[grand steppe]

ya ive had the mole for years. And tbh I really still LOVE prospector more. The mole is really fun with a group, get your RP on

[ivory gust]

the main purpose of the MOLE solo I think is to actually be able to benefit when you do find a cluster or rock with more than 32 SCU of quant

[grand steppe]

I have had those 96 runs tho

[jagged whale]

Damn, how much even is 96 scu of quant?

[grand steppe]

750 ish

iirc

[jagged whale]

Damn that's a lot

[robust berry]

yall in a discord call?

[grand steppe]

ya but I also am more stressed when im solo and the sucking begins

HAHA

I had fun yesterday with one prospector and a Mole, both in Aphorite paint skins mind you.

[jagged whale]

I'm currently watching a podcast so I won't be voice chatting today I'm afraid

[robust berry]

kk

[jagged whale]

I wish I could make multi crew worth it, but it seems much easier just to mine and keep the profits to myself haha

[robust berry]

How do i use the attachments on the mining head? or when i install it its already working?

[grand steppe]

haha we were getting a spread sheet goin

[grand steppe]

depends if its a passive or active module

all actives have 5 charges i believe

[robust berry]

oh?

[jagged whale]

The mole is so slow... What's a good QT to get for it?

[robust berry]

XL?

[grand steppe]

So like a FLTR-XL is a passive that has 20% less inert material when extracting, while a Surge you use and it pumps energy into the rock

[robust berry]

Ah

[grand steppe]

It sucks I dont think you can see remaining charges either, so I use a piece of paper to make marks LOL

At least ive never found out how

[robust berry]

Whats and where do i find the best place to mine quant on Lyria?

[jagged whale]

Literally anywhere I think, though I have best luck in the large flat fields

[robust berry]

alr

[jagged whale]

Also I need to go, so I apologize but I won't be able to group

[robust berry]

ww

[jagged whale]

Just travel the fields, constantly pining, and either use the mining mode to scan or visually look for orange speckled rocks

[grand steppe]

I start at Playhouse

just cause it sounds fun

Teds playhouse or something

Want some advice for the Prospector?

[jagged whale]

Just QT to any place that is day time haha

Quant mining at night = death

[grand steppe]

no its hardmode

you get bonus rocks

😛

[jagged whale]

And bonus ship claims......

I can't recall a time I didn't crash into a mountain when quant mining at night

[grand steppe]

eh dark or day it dont matter

I usually follow sunset

[jagged whale]

But I think half the problem for me is that I have an attraction to lowflying the prospector

[robust berry]

Yep

[grand steppe]

like Poi said, Mining mode on, Ping at 179, get your markers, Angle the ping down to 2 degrees and scan directly on it again, you can get the amount in the pack up to 12k away.

Remember 2 or more on lyria is automatically Q type rock

in a pack that is

[robust berry]

alr thx

is 2.10 quant good in a rock? im assuming no

[grand steppe]

2%

?

[robust berry]

yep

[grand steppe]

i dont even think i remember seeing anything below 3 LOL

oh ya no

BUT do it any way if youve never done it before

at least get familiar with the 15min timer

[robust berry]

Alr

also how do i turn the modules on haha?

[grand steppe]

mines on joysticks but i think its alt+1 2 3

for the 3

[robust berry]

kk

that worked, i cant have all 3 open at the same time?

[grand steppe]

no

[robust berry]

damn

[grand steppe]

recommend Brants

look for 40 40 rocks, 4000 mass, with 40% quant

[robust berry]

okay

[grand steppe]

you can full load on a 30 tho

[robust berry]

8000 mass no good?

[grand steppe]

uh ya.. where you at 😛

youll need friends for that

[robust berry]

lyria

[grand steppe]

also it may not have the percentage

8k rock with 2% is poo

[robust berry]

okay

it had 16%

[grand steppe]

ya thats decent. You just need someone to help you crack it.

unless you double surge and then stampede it

i aint about that though

LOL

[robust berry]

damn

[grand steppe]

use the UEX quantanium calculator website

https://uexcorp.space/mining

[robust berry]

thx mate

[grand steppe]

plug in percentage and mass and will tell you profits, unrefined and refined along with the SCU

[umbral rune]

anyone have a way to get around rock parts being under the terrain?

not like partials, I can reach those, I mean the entirely under the map terrain ones

[robust berry]

Kk

[hollow sedge]

What is the best commodity to trade

[robust berry]

lar and titum

[grand steppe]

I seen good stuff with Medical, and stims, laranite. Some good vids out there.

[robust berry]

@hollow sedge some route ive made

[grand steppe]

Ive always wanted to try Supply trade, but got too obsessed with mining

[uncut grotto]

What's a good medium or large size hauler that you can rent in game?

Just for transporting refined quantanium ^

[grand steppe]

is it the Connie? Taurus?

i cant remember

[cyan mountain]

andromeda

[stray wolf]

Is it a good idea to upgrade my Prospector to a Mole as a solo miner?

[robust berry]

what is the best one to do that is not too crazy on time and gives a ton pf profit>

[hollow sedge]

Wat is that

[cobalt rivet]

Do you know what operating a Mole entails?

[robust berry]

mining

[stray wolf]

No

[cobalt rivet]

You have the Pilot which only navigates ship and scans (Excluding mining head scan, which they don't have)
Then you have 3 mining heads at different parts of the shiy operated by individual crewed turrets.

[stray wolf]

Oh nvm that sounds like a lot of work for one person lol

[cobalt rivet]

bright side with mole is larger capacity so potential to extract more per run

not worth it for someone who mostly does solo

[cyan mountain]

ferron exchange/dinyx solventation

[hollow sedge]

What do u mean not to crazy

[cyan mountain]

He probably means not having to wait 2 days to have it refined

[hollow sedge]

Ohhh

[ivory gust]

Depends on how much Quant you have to transport.

You can rent:
Cutlass Black 46 SCU
Freelancer 66 SCU
Constellation Andromeda 96 SCU

[marble saffron]

Is quant on Lyria broken? Flying for over 1 hour and never seen quant occurence higher than 5% in one rock

[vast verge]

I just mined a 30% quant rock and it bugged and all of my inventory turned to inert material...has this happened to anyone before?

[thin escarp]

@robust berry ferron exchange imo

is best

@marble saffron are you using the ping method?

i have a video pinned in this channel for it

i pulled like 20 million from lyria over 3 days this week

[marble saffron]

Will check it out thanks

[ivory gust]

As displayed in mining mode in the ship? If so, it might just be a display bug, visit the refinery.

Refinery also says it's not quant? Lots of people have been reporting that this patch

[vast verge]

i checked refinery, it was okay, just a display bug. My heart skipped a beat, haha

[cyan mountain]

Mining gets boring fast ugh

[ivory gust]

Then don't do it tbh

There's a wipe in 3-4 months anyway, don't do anything that isn't fun

[vast verge]

I like it because it's chill, I can do other things while i do it and don't have to worry (most of the time) about getting shot down

[thin escarp]

@vast verge yeah i had my last few perfect runs do that in my mole

i was like hell naw man no

[cyan mountain]

Yeah but is correlated with money

I wanna try some sone ships

[ivory gust]

There are quite a few ways of making money in the game currently, so pick one that you find fun

If you don't find any of the ways of making money currently to be fun, maybe the game isn't for you at this time

[cyan mountain]

At least there are choices

I can run random box missions when I'm bored

Or loot derelicts

Tbh it's mainly because of the 3.18 wipe

Not worth the grind really

[vast verge]

after i get to optimal range in the prosp (30m for example) does getting close like down to 1m matter?

[ivory gust]

No

[marble crater]

once your in optimal range and still struggling you can move the laser around and find a spot where there's a bit less resistance

[lethal aspen]

What is a good route for cargo running? I know it probably doesn't make a ton, but I really wanna try it.

[ivory gust]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[obtuse granite]

Dinyx solventation. Reason: time delay (approx. 24 h) actually does not count, since you probably mine everyday and haul some stuff every day or every other day (or maybe every 3rd day) depending on how big cargo ship you have.

[ivory gust]

Dinyx ends up taking 1d, 18hrs for a full Prospector load, I think

[jagged whale]

Can a spartan fit in a MSR?

[visual karma]

quick question for you citizens out there. Is there currently any commodities that are bugged to hell like scarp was/ might still be?

[ivory gust]

No, it's way too long

[jagged whale]

Yet another day of depression and sadness...

Haha, thanks man!

[ivory gust]

If you want to carry the big vehicles, need a Hercules

[jagged whale]

That 400 dollar pledge though...

[ivory gust]

Only 4.9M in game

[jagged whale]

That's not too bad, I want to save for an 890j though...

So many choices...

[ivory gust]

I wish we had something that was basically just a cockpit and engines on a frame that you could strap vehicles to the underside of

[jagged whale]

That'd be cool

[ivory gust]

Honestly I wouldn't do that this patch, with the wipe in 3-4 months

[jagged whale]

Think there's still plenty of time, no?

[worthy scroll]

Money is going to go away anyway, spend it on something big.

[ivory gust]

Depends on how quickly you make money, and if you enjoy what you're doing to make money.

Doesn't make sense to spend 3 months farming just to get an 890J for a couple weeks before wipe

[jagged whale]

I guess

Maybe a carrack then

[ivory gust]

I mean, same issue. Carrack is awesome though, I bought one with my oops money on first day of 3.17.2

[jagged whale]

I'm kinda regretting giving my free money away

I wanted to play normally and progress at my own pace

But now... i want that ship haha