industrial-professions

[cobalt rivet]

There we go

[worthy scroll]

That hasn't been working this patch. It's been really iffy trying to get into a server with someone.

[fair slate]

IF THE C2s are gone, peace out

[marble crater]

It seems now that SoO is offline the Halo is popping again. 47% 5.1T rock juicy

[manic dome]

Is that website any cool for trade ? https://uexcorp.space/

[ivory gust]

Yes

[cinder solstice]

Why is there "frost" on the bottom window of the Mole? Is it possible to clear up? CTRL-X does not help as it's on the ship. The side turrets dont have it.

The scanner seems really buggy now? It scans for 70% then aborts. In a mole that means I have to change seats to check rocks so surveying takes forever now. Any tips?

[alpine geyser]

best mining spot for quant?

[thin escarp]

@cinder solstice repairing fixes that

[cinder solstice]

I've repaired plenty of times? I guess I'll see. I just did a repair now. 🙂

[thin escarp]

yeah its like

wear n tear

[north oyster]

Great news to hear

[west tide]

Lyria

[hollow sedge]

Can u store gear in a Ptv

[north oyster]

When things settle down, Aaron's Halo is also good

[inland yew]

anyone wanna go mole mining with me hmu in dms

[cobalt rivet]

no 😦

[hollow sedge]

Cyclone it is

[wintry mango]

Hmm, should i change the guns on my prospector to distortion...

Wish Drake or Argo would make a 1man mining ship like the prospector, i love the undistrial style 🙂

[smoky remnant]

Can you make any real profit with a stock prospector I want to rent one but I know without the proper upgrades it can't mine quant or stuff like that

And I don't yet have enough money to buy one

[balmy moon]

if you dont have enough money yet you can either hand mine in caves, or rent a ROC and a ship that can fit it and mine on Aberdeen

[wintry mango]

Got any buddy thats mining and able to break rocks for you?

[smoky remnant]

Oh I already own an ROC plus a m2 to carry it I just wanted to know if stock prospector was viable

[whole juniper]

if you have a second person in a prospector stock or not you can mine any rock in the game

[wintry mango]

Not for QT, no

[ivory gust]

Haven't tried it myself, but I bet it would be possible if you used gadgets to make up the difference

[wintry mango]

Yesh, dont want to see two stock prospectors trying the instability of QT rocks

[smoky remnant]

Can't use those on a rented prospector

[ivory gust]

Gadgets, not modules

[smoky remnant]

OHhhh yeah those

[whole juniper]

would be a pain

[wintry mango]

Not sure if the gadget is enought tho

[balmy moon]

people go crazy over quant, but you can make some really decent money with a stock prospector finding, mining and refining Bexalite and Taranite if you dont want to deal with the unstableness

[smoky remnant]

Yeah that would be more my type of mining im not exactly into the whole mine one rock and scurry away back to a Lagrange point or blow up type deal

[balmy moon]

yeah i make about $80ish an hour so far with that method

[ivory gust]

Stock laser is Arbor MH1, 1850 pwr/s, no bonuses or maluses
Lancet MH1 is 1400 pwr/s, -30% catastrophic charge, -75% instability, -30% optimal charge rate, +40% optimal charge size, -75% resistance, -50 shatter damage

The two that really matter are the instability and resistance, which you could theoretically match with a BoreMax and a Sabir at the cost of a slower optimal charge rate and a smaller window

[smoky remnant]

How much exactly?

[ivory gust]

Might not need the resistance one with the higher power of the Arbor

[balmy moon]

all depends on how much inert you suck up with the ore and refining method you go with

[whole juniper]

@smoky remnant i made a VC if you want to rent a prospector and mine to see how it works

[smoky remnant]

Oh I wasn't going to rn I was just asking for when im gonna get on later

[whole juniper]

👍

[wintry mango]

Problem is the imbalance, QT worth is 2x the value of the nearest option

[balmy moon]

True - but i dont want to be put in a rush that if i dont get it to a refinery in time ill explode to grind for an extra 6 figures / hr...esp with another wipe coming 3.18

[shut remnant]

whats the poop shoot on the pros for?

[real axle]

I assume thats for ejecting your cargo?

[fading lance]

You can eject cargo from the pilot seat

[umbral rune]

welp

got disconnected while in ship

rip those modules

actually I think they were just active

[safe urchin]

Is mining in the Halo better now? And did they fix the modules despawning on the prospector after reclaiming it?

quantanium mining specifically

[umbral rune]

nope, was "stored" on "lyria" but let me retrieve from arc l1

nope

modules still delete at reclaim

not sure if that's a bug or what but passive or active, they're gone when you reclaim

[safe urchin]

Do you have to reclaim always after you've stored a ship, refinied it's cargo, then unstored it?

[umbral rune]

nope that's retrieve and I've not had the issue of retrieving deleting modules

only when i have to file an insurance claim

[safe urchin]

ok, gotcha

So just make sure not to blow the ship up

[umbral rune]

yes

[ivory gust]

that was likely a 30k then (server crash)

[ivory gust]

Based on what people have said, how good Halo mining is seems to be directly related to whether Siege of Orison is running or not.

Siege running? Don't bother in the Halo.
Siege not running? Halo is fine.

[scarlet sinew]

I had an issue the other night where after I landed at ARCL1, the asop saw my ship in hangar 04, but my only option was to claim it instead of storing. I ended up getting my load refined and logging out and back in. Ship was stored and it kept it’s modules.

[potent echo]

has the hauling meta changed at all with the release of this update?

[umbral rune]

yep chris

had 3 friends also get booted

[safe urchin]

what is the schedule for it?

[ivory gust]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/1/thread/star-citizen-alpha-3-17-2-now-available

Starts in about 2 hours, alternates days with Jumptown

[safe urchin]

cheers

[slim dew]

how do i load spare torpedos into ship sotrage?

like use the cargo area

[onyx crow]

You can't load them into the cargo area, but you can load them into the ships inventory, which wouldn't allow you to load them into the missile rack on the go unless you're at a station/city

[safe urchin]

Am I not able to load part of a refined shipment into a ship? Like I fit one shipment into my cuttyblack but couldn't even put part of the next one cause there wasn't enough room, so I was hauling a half full cutty

Is there a work around to this?

[onyx crow]

I believe it's either all or none, there's no some here, some there

for each load

[soft sapphire]

Is prospector mining fixed yet?

[onyx crow]

yes

What do you mean?

[soft sapphire]

I've never done it before because I was always told it was bugged, so whats why I'm asking 🙂

[onyx crow]

ah yea, you can def go and mine with it, the aaron halo is buggy at the moment though

buggy in the sense that rocks aren't scannable/mineable (in the halo)

[soft sapphire]

Ohh neat okay

Time to give it a crack!

(no pun intended)

[onyx crow]

enjoy!

[safe urchin]

That sucks, hopefully they fix that, would be helpfull for people with smaller hauling ships

[umbral rune]

friend of mine had the red alarm bug on their prospector

they managed to store it just in time and saved the load

[umbral fern]

I guess the game does not want me mining then...

[umbral rune]

startled me

[umbral fern]

Any tips on finding quantanium btw?

I hear from several people Lyria is a good place to look for it, but I didn't have any luck finding it in the 20 minutes or so I was scanning around before that happened

[onyx crow]

I've had many 30k's today

Not yet that sort

lol

[safe urchin]

what's the deal with not being able to scan rocks for mining in the halo

[onyx crow]

I've personally not been to the halo myself yet, I've seen many here talk about it though if you scroll through

Just can't scan them

If you can't scan them, ya can't mine them

I've run into the type of 'unscannable/unminable' rock before, hopefully its' only on the halo on this patch ...

[safe urchin]

so is it better just to mine at lyria?

[onyx crow]

indeed, unless you want to try your luck

[safe urchin]

there's always a bit of luck

[onyx crow]

definitely

Just from what I've read, it's not much this patch

on the halo

[safe urchin]

It seems to me that the most time I have trouble scanning rocks is when they visually have quant in them

which makes it even more annoying

[umbral rune]

so RNG is always an aspect, but I personally zoom in my scan tool all the way, set it to 179*, and I fly around on lyria with my mining tool out to better highlight things an scan frequently

[safe urchin]

What does zooming it do?

[umbral rune]

I.... admittedly have no idea

I just copied that from someone else

it may even be useless

like the overclock function for the lancet (you can visually activate overclock but it does nothing)

[onyx crow]

zooming it gives it further range

but you have to be very precise with your aim

For a better explanation, watch the scouting guide video by cross in the pin here

excellent guide on how to find rocks

[ivory gust]

It's not a bug and it doesn't need to be fixed. The refinery doesn't want to hang on to half your load.

Cutlass Black is a poor choice for hauling Prospector loads for that reason

Freelancer (or Freelancer MAX) are the better options for that

[safe urchin]

Fair point, It's just an unnecessary inconvenience for newer players trying to grind to get a bigger hauling ship. It does validate the need for a bigger one

[safe urchin]

Would you prefer a freelancer over a C2 or raft?

[potent echo]

i mean the C2 instantly wins XD

[onyx crow]

c2 has more space

[ivory gust]

You can always stack up a bunch of loads then rent an Andromeda (can carry 3 loads) for a day to haul

[potent echo]

but if you want some help, i do have a Caterpillar and an Andromeda and could help you actually get that stuff shipped

[safe urchin]

I might take you up on that

i've debated pleging a dedicated hauler but they're all just pricy and I think a GPU is a better investment in priority

[ivory gust]

Those are... Very different ships.

Freelancer is entry level multirole, like Cutlass

C2 is end game multirole.

RAFT is low-mid level cargo only

[potent echo]

i might not even ask for any money. At most like 15%. Im just in it for the fun lol

[ivory gust]

Buy Taurus in-game

[safe urchin]

gotcha, so freelancer is a good first step

Also, are there pirates on lyria that come kill you when prospecting? Or was that cause I entered a restricted area for about 5 seconds upon entering

I didn't have a cs or anything

[potent echo]

if you need anything right now ill be free in like 20 minutes. Just doing some deliveries for shits and giggles and to get an excuse to use my cutty

[onyx crow]

Pirates can happen anywhere

[safe urchin]

I dont have enough to make it worthwile rn, but I may later

[raw shell]

I wouldn't worry about pirates right now. Everyone is poor

[safe urchin]

Ik, it's just never been thing on lyria

at least for me, so I was just wondering if I did a bad thing

[worn dock]

I bought a Hull A because it hauls two loads

[cedar flower]

doing box missions

[worn dock]

and it's really nice inside

[slim dew]

ty

[raw shell]

Restricted bunkers have turrets that shoot at you. They're automatic

[potent echo]

If you need money to get you started up then i also dont mind showing you how to trade. You can make around 100k off every run

[safe urchin]

Would upgrading my game package from cutty black to freelancer be viable? Or should I keep the cutty black for it's beginning versatility

[safe urchin]

I might take you up on that actually, i'm not online rn but I've wanted to try trading aswell as mining

Always liked the industrial side of games like this

[potent echo]

that depends on how you want to play the game. If you really want to get into hauling and trading, then that might be worthwile for a bit at least. Personally, I would try to upgrade to the Constellation Andromeda or Taurus since that would help you get more money out of each trading route, but the freelancer aint all bad. The nice thing about the andromeda is that it doubles as a gunship so you can also get into bounty hunting with that thing if you would like. I have taken it out and done some bounties with it just by myself and it works out well

[worn dock]

is the Orphanage dangerous for a Hull A?

oh wait, shoot I bought a Connie Taurus with all the free money

AND a C2

silly me

[wintry mango]

Hmm, is there any site for checking distance between locations?

[ivory gust]

You can rent the normal Freelancer in game to see how you like it compared to the Cutlass.

I'd say that for just about everything except cargo hauling, the Cutlass is better than the Freelancer base, and the Freelancer isn't really enough better at cargo to be worth it I think.

Freelancer base is also worse than the Cutlass at ROC mining since the bay is so narrow.

The Freelancer MAX ($150), on the other hand, carries 120 SCU (almost 4 full prospector loads) and is a pretty solid option if you want to lean more heavily into industry, but it will be worse than the Cutlass at combat and more inconvenient to use for things like ground missions because of how poorly it flies.

The next step up from that is the Constellation Taurus ($190), which at 174 SCU can carry 5-6 prospector loads and has enough firepower to do VHRTs well, although it is more unwieldy than the other two.

All of the above can be purchased in game, and I'd definitely recommend doing that before you upgrade your package. You really can't go wrong keeping the Cutlass as your package, it's a very solid ship to start in post-wipe.

[onyx crow]

Anyone know what's going on? I keep finding Hadanite to mine with my ROC on Daymar, unload my ROC only to find that there's no rock to mine ...?

twice in a row

[ivory gust]

It's also worth noting that in the current state of the game, pretty much anything other than the Carrack, Caterpillar, or C2/M2 will make less money per hour trading than you could earn just by ROC mining with a rented cutlass, so...yeah

[ivory gust]

The rock is completely gone, or it shows as there but isn't mineable?

[onyx crow]

gone

no trace

[ivory gust]

That's not something I've seen before

Not even showing up when ROC is in mining mode?

[onyx crow]

nothing

tab with the ROC, pull the arm out, nothing

found a 3rd garden of rocks, thankfully this one is still here .... so weird

The 1st time, I thought, maybe an incoming 30k, but nothing came. Just my normal bad luck, but then a 2nd time came.

[ivory gust]

I've seen ghost rocks before that scan and show up on the HUD but when you try to mine them they're not really there, you can drive right through them, but never had them disappear like that

maybe you landed on them with your ship and squished them (is joke, that's not a thing...I think)

[onyx crow]

They ghosted me alright lol

[stray wolf]

Is the Impact I mining laser good for mining quant?

[onyx crow]

lancet

[stray wolf]

I have the lancet but I can’t break rocks over like 5500 mass

I got a few of the modules and none of those did anything

[ivory gust]

yes, that's what modules are for--surge/stampede

Impact is a terrible idea for quant since it actually increases the instability--although you could potentially use the Sabir mining gadget to offset that

[onyx crow]

anything over ~5k requires modules

it takes some learning

watch some videos if you're having troubles

Red Monster has lots of guides on youtube

Just invited ya to his disc as well

[stray wolf]

Ok sweet thank you

[cerulean lichen]

How good is a prospector pledge? I have the tali which I’m realizing is probably not the right ship for me, and it’s just 5 dollars to just switch to having a prospector always

[onyx crow]

What is the actual name for the tali?

talon?

[cerulean lichen]

Retaliator

It’s the base version that’s supposed to be modular

[onyx crow]

Oh, I mean if you want to be a miner, definitely swap for the prospector

depends on your type of play you want

[ivory gust]

Prospector prints money if you like mining.

Retaliator can print money if you like running ERTs over and over again.

[cerulean lichen]

I don’t really bounty hunt, and I also found out that I won’t be able to use turret blades to make it a solo gun ship. It’s the only large ship I own and was a good price. Was hoping for it to be like a mobile base once it’s modular but who knows when that may be

[ivory gust]

yeah, if you're not using it as a gunship with friends and you don't run bounty missions, not much point to it now. The only reason I might keep it would be because (given how much the Retaliator Bomber costs) I wouldn't be surprised if the Retaliator Base goes way up in price

[marble crater]

I would get something you can enjoy using now rather than hang onto something for years to see if it gets useful for you

[cerulean lichen]

Yah that’s probably the most logical thing to do

[ivory gust]

watch them jack the price way up at IAE right after you upgrade it 😄

[cerulean lichen]

Yah. I could just wait for IAE as well. But that’s months away

[marble crater]

Up to you, sit on it waiting or start using something you enjoy now

[cerulean lichen]

I’m going to upgrade to a prospector, then save for a 400i which can work like a mini home for me to explore places like pyro. Think that maybe my best move going forward

Prospector upgrade achieved.

[cyan mountain]

Why do I have the feeling that ROC mining is easier, faster and probably more profitable than quantanium mining?

[bright peak]

Where is the best place to mine bexalite if I don’t want to deal with quantanium tonight?

[bright peak]

That’s been my experience starting out with a prospector but I’m learning

[onyx crow]

def easier to ROC mine but quant is way more profitable

[cyan mountain]

A full prospector is worth 250k

[onyx crow]

once you get it down at least

[cyan mountain]

Which is not guaranteed evrrytime

[onyx crow]

Use !tradetools to find out where the best places are

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[cyan mountain]

• you have to wait and refine it before selling it

If you prioritize hadanite on the roc you get 255k worth of gems

[onyx crow]

I'm personally not familiar with bex

[cyan mountain]

Hadanite seems less rare than quant

Finding a good quant rock may take some time

[bright peak]

I have filled up my prospector much faster than any roc mining expedition.

Where do you mine?

[cyan mountain]

I managed to do that a couple of times, you gotta be lucky tho

Lyria for quant

[bright peak]

I’ve been in the halo and had good luck. It seems to be different for everyone

[cyan mountain]

The halo was dogshit for me

Unscannable rocks

2% asteroids when I found some

[cerulean lichen]

Ahh forgot how nice the prospector is. Feels like home. A cutlass maybe useful, but a misc ship feels like home

[ivory gust]

Only if you have awful prospector luck. It's at least an hour to fill up a ROC even if you're reasonably lucky, you should easily be able to do at least one prospector trip in that time

[ivory gust]

220k

[cyan mountain]

I guess I'm jinxed

[stray wolf]

What station do you guys do you set your respawn point for mining quant on Lyria?

Right now I’m at ARC-L1 Wide forest station

[native slate]

how long is the cooldown for trade limits? like if I sell the max amount at the orphanage, how long is it until I can sell more

[worthy nest]

What should I do if I’m constantly getting bad rocks.

In Aaron’s belt using a prospector

[spare cairn]

anyone need a scout i will scout and you pay me if you like the rock

[cerulean lichen]

Is halo quant mining working or is it only surface mining right now?

[dapper mesa]

Easier yes, but definitely not faster. Can average about 250k with a full ROC, but sometimes takes 1-2 hours or longer. Quantanium, finding a single good rock, mining and returning to refinery can be as little as 20 minutes.

[coarse cape]

i mean it kinda is faster since you have to wait a lot longer to sell

[atomic flame]

what are the best attachments for the prospector

[cobalt rivet]

lancet mh1, surge, stampede

simple and stable

[atomic flame]

ok well im not going to fly 48,000,000 km to get a surge so any replacements?

[cobalt rivet]

you can use stampedes but itll cost you a couple to make the same progress as a surge

especially on high res rocks

[atomic flame]

i know its a little late but asteroids are glitchhed

[cobalt rivet]

havent had issues finding q, l or m rocks

4/4 runs found them all

between 10-20 minutes

[atomic flame]

where?

[cobalt rivet]

aaron halo between arc and hurston

[atomic flame]

yeah everytime i go there the aestorids are ghost rocks

[cobalt rivet]

there are ghost rocks for sure, but if you know what you're doing you can just ignore them

.>

[atomic flame]

can you teach me the ways then?

[cobalt rivet]

set speed limiter to 400mps, set your scanner to 90 deg fov, switch to mining mode, scan every 15 seconds

when a minable rock comes into that fov and its close to you, itll show up on your scanner

stop and look around for it

itll be highlighted gold

trust the mining head

it never does you wrong

ignore the blinking rocks

pay attention to your scanner

only slow down when scanner says a rock type

you can sorta fly towards the square rock markers to get in proximity but never bank on it being the one

it just guides you in a good direction

[atomic flame]

jeez thats alot

[cobalt rivet]

is this your first time mining?

[atomic flame]

so i should be good if i run 3 stampedes

[cobalt rivet]

itll eventually connect in your head after a few runs

[atomic flame]

nah ive made like 1.4 mil off of it

[spare cairn]

ill scout rocks for people 75k a rock if you like it

[cobalt rivet]

just fyi, a surge will push through almost any res

[atomic flame]

yeah but again

[cobalt rivet]

a stampede goes by force multiplier

[atomic flame]

where im based they dont sell surges

[cobalt rivet]

make one trip and buy a fk ton of surges

[atomic flame]

i tried that

[cobalt rivet]

i stocked like 15 in my home refinery station

ill be good for a month

[atomic flame]

except i cant move them around in between ship and station inventories

[cobalt rivet]

breh, they are small you can fit them in a cutty or titan

[atomic flame]

no

literally

the game hard blocks me from moving any module between any inventory

i cant even pcik it up off the ground

if i drop it

[cobalt rivet]

i keep all my mining stuff in the ref station so when I go out I have what I need

I only go out with what the ship can carry

[atomic flame]

thats what im trying to say

i cant even put them in the ship

[cobalt rivet]

?

let me break it down

[atomic flame]

can you hop in a vc?

[cobalt rivet]

I have prospector with MH1 Lancet

all the modules are in the station

[atomic flame]

no

listen to me

can u hop in a vc

[cobalt rivet]

no

[atomic flame]

ok then let me do my best to explain this

my game

does not

let me move modules between inventories

so for example if i buy a bunch of modules at hur l1

put them directly into my ship inventory

and fly all the way to arc l1

(my home base btw)

the game wont let me take the module out of the ships inventory and put it into the inventory of the space station

[cobalt rivet]

idk what to say, contact helpdesk

thats a personal detriment

game shouldnt do that to you

[atomic flame]

ur telling me

no one else has this issue

[cobalt rivet]

but statistically its prob you

[atomic flame]

ive checked everywhere

[cobalt rivet]

doing something dumb

[atomic flame]

yeah\

i know

thats why i was wondering if u could hop in a vc

[cobalt rivet]

its late

i cant

[atomic flame]

so i could screen share and you can see if im doing sumn wrong

you dont need to talk

just watch and text

[cobalt rivet]

ok

[atomic flame]

check pms

[cobalt rivet]

you give me flashbacks to when I worked help desk

[atomic flame]

bro

please

trust me

i spent days trying to get it to work

[cobalt rivet]

go buy a shit ton of surges

at PO

above Orison

preferably in another cargo ship, not your mining ship unless you wanna get killed and lose all your modules

[thin escarp]

anyone wanna be a laser?

😄

[cobalt rivet]

I am intrigued and scared at the same time

[cerulean lichen]

It’s late so can’t. Though good news cross, I did the smart move and upgraded my tail Pledge to a useful prospector. I’m officially all set for mining after any wipe with a cutlass and prospector now.

[atomic flame]

@cobalt rivet u still up man

[cobalt rivet]

🛌

[mossy radish]

does roc mining work fine at the moment?

[signal fable]

is there a reason i keep getting a failed transaction message when trying to sell at Grim Hex?

trying to sell some cargo but it wont let me

[atomic flame]

relog

[ivory gust]

Yes

[river cove]

I'm try to start trading and I have a cat what I should start with?

[pastel flame]

Do you have a big float to start with?

[river cove]

14724 UEC

only

😦

[pastel flame]

Ok so starting small. No biggie. How did you earn up to the cat?

[river cove]

I got it when they give us all theat milions lol

[pastel flame]

Ahhh :) initially I'd suggest running Scrap

[river cove]

ok I'm at A18 they sale scrap where to slae it tho?

[pastel flame]

Well, you can use sc trade tools to see where things are bought and sold.

Scrap is nice because there's no major planet stops

[tight latch]

did the server just go down

[river cove]

nop not here

[ivory gust]

!tradetools

14k is really not enough to start trading effectively

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[river cove]

@wary tuskthanks

[cinder solstice]

Is there a market for Illegal cargo? I see there are some for sale at The Orphanage, but I don't know if it's sellable?

[wintry mango]

What's the recommended QT mining at the moment? Many channels seems to recommend asteroids instead of moons

[coarse quiver]

I prefer Lyria over asteroids

[cyan mountain]

can i retrieve a roc full of cargo after a 30k?

[cerulean lichen]

Sadly roc doesn’t have 30k protections so no.

[cyan mountain]

well that sucks

bruh

[cobalt rivet]

Next time you 30k go to a mining station on the moon you were mining on and go to the fleet terminal and check where your roc is

[cyan mountain]

my cutlass was stored at my local station

and i retrieved it

[cobalt rivet]

If it gives precise location, there is a chance it got stored in that location, fly to that fac and retreieve your roc

Rocs can only be called from a mining fac, so chances are they may be stored in one if 30k

[cyan mountain]

i'll check later

i was near norgaard when that happened

[hazy vault]

be me
spend 30 min on daymar looking for hadanite/laranite
finally find cluster
10 or 15 juicy hadanite chunks
land
get in ROC
drive over to first rock
immediately 30k

[cyan mountain]

pain

[shell sorrel]

[north oyster]

A new Quantainium spot?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76iuhGr8M5M

[cerulean lichen]

So maybe a new cargo ship on the way? Latest monthly update mentioned white box on a announced ship with a habitation and cargo hold.

[hazy vault]

be me
30k'd a while ago after spotting the juiciest cluster of hadanite
feelsbadman.mp4
decide to give planet mining another shot
go to arial
spend 2 and a half hours mining, fill ROC all the way with hadanite
"IM GONNA BE RICH!"
go to mining outpost to sell
take the tiniest glimpse of the buy/sell kiosk
30k
:(((

im not mining again until the game releases ffs

[real gale]

Good trading/freight ship for 1.8 mil? Could save and get one a bit more expensive if worth

[cerulean lichen]

Freelancer max is probably the best at a little shy over 2 million. There is the raft but the max has the better cargo capacity

[marble crater]

Another vote for the Freelancer Max, also doubles as a ground vehicle carrier

[real gale]

Okay thanks

How big of an initial investment to make trading worthwhile? Currently doing SoO and HRTs

[visual karma]

been a while since I've mined (like pre-refineries) anyone suggest some good places to mine with a prospector or ROC?

[cerulean lichen]

ROC I’d suggest Aberdeen if you have or can get the pembroke suit. As for prospector mining, I like calliope, but lyria is usually the go to for quant

[visual karma]

Lots of thanks for helping with that info 🙂 thank you very much I'll be sure to check the places out o7

could someone possibly explain what the modules are? thats new to me as well. sorry for asking so much but i think that might be last one

[north oyster]

Trade, as it stands, only favors the largest of ships. So in all honesty, if you wanted to do trade as a profession, you will need a Hercules C2, Carrack or CAT. The Freelancer MAX, as mentioned by WintersHuntsman, offers the most economical cost per SCU in the entry level ships. But 120 SCU isn't going to make you financially independent

You can look at mining until you earn enough aUEC to buy a real cargo ship

[real gale]

alright thanks for the tips

i tried mining but i didnt enjoy it

earning decently from doing SoO atm

[north oyster]

understandable. The help beacons seems to also be a good earner to look at

they escalate nicely in earnings

[north oyster]

different world from the days of mine it and sell it at Levski, etc. The meta for Prospector laser head is no longer the Helix but the super cheap, super weak Lancet (yep, makes perfect sense). The biggest change from then that you'll need to polish up on will be the all new Ping and Radar operation. ROC mining is in a good place. Aberdeen is the spot so grab some Pembroke armor (like Winter said). For Prospector looking for Quantainium, Lyria and the Halo. Halo is suffering from a lot of dud scans at the moment. Also seems CRU-L2-B might be a good spot also.

The Refineries is where it all happens for miners now.

The Refinery Store is pretty stocked and super handy

[visual karma]

why i s the lancet so good?

[north oyster]

CIG just wanted to kill the Helix

[visual karma]

but what makes it better?

[north oyster]

You can mine Quantainium with a 20K laser head. It has buffs that the Helix use to have. The Helix got massive debuffs to make it almost worthless. I used it for the longest time after that but it was so darn easy to mine Quan with the Lancet that I stopped fighting it

[visual karma]

interesting thanks that makes more sense now I guess I'll have to sell the helix back and get the lancet then

thank god for selling things these days but dang the refund is awful

with the lancet would any modules work better than others?

[marble crater]

the Lancet has incredible stability but low power, Surge can help get through the initial break quicker

[north oyster]

there are pinned notes at the top that might help also

[north oyster]

Also, there are a couple of groups doing cooperate mining that might help you get back in the saddle faster. One group I can recommend if interested. They pay out equally to all participants.

[visual karma]

I might be interested in checking it out

[north oyster]

@thin escarp if you could introduce yourself and the team to DeadGaming here. Thanks!

Hasn't mined since the "old days" before refineries, etc

[fair slate]

Vaux C2, stampede and surge can break any rock in the game. With a bit of skill, dont use surge on rocks below 4500

Hur L1 for surge, Arc L1 for other 2

[thin escarp]

@visual karma

https://tenor.com/view/forest-gump-wave-hi-hello-howdy-gif-22164679

[north oyster]

From CIG: The 1 million aUEC started rolling out this morning, keep an eye on your wallets for it!

[regal hare]

Anyone know if mining is bugged? My friends trying to mine rn and his laser isn't doing anything, it's not even showing the usual stats of the rock despite it showing a rock when he presses tab

[rancid gyro]

Has he activated mining mode?

[regal hare]

Like pulled out the mining laser?

[rancid gyro]

Yes

[regal hare]

If so yea

The beam was going through the rocks

And it wasn't giving a detailed info on the rock

[rancid gyro]

Oh I haven‘t heard of that before

[regal hare]

When he goes back I'll SS it

He logged out to see if that'll help

I've never had that issue as well

[cerulean lichen]

At work but happy it’s rolling out. Though sorta don’t need it now that I have a pledge as a prospector😅

[regal hare]

This is a rented prospector, if that matters

[dawn eagle]

Hello, I've got a Freelancer MAX but from what I understand hauling cargo isn't that profitable, would it be smart to turn it in and get a prospector instead?

[ivory gust]

Unscannable rock, it happens

Seems to happen more while Siege of Orison is running from what people are saying

[ivory gust]

MAX can do more than just haul cargo--it's a great ship for ROC mining if you want to do that, and it's a great choice for taking refined Prospector ore to market (you'll need a hauler of some kind for that anyway)

Cargo refactor is also coming later this year theoretically, so cargo might become more worth it then

[regal hare]

All rocks didn't scan, not just a few

[ivory gust]

Yes, when it happens it happens to the entire cluster

[regal hare]

So what's the play? New server or new area?

This was planetside MT

[ivory gust]

Keep scanning until you find something that isn't unscannable

Like I said, lots of people have been reporting finding unscannable clusters this patch, and it seems to be worse while SoO is running

[thin escarp]

@regal hare yes

you cant break shit ina rental

but if your in the halo

its probably a ghost rock

[regal hare]

Can't break as in the head isn't good enough, or can't break as in rentals are bugged

[thin escarp]

the stock laser is trash

it cant break most valuable rocks

[regal hare]

Okay, that wasn't my issue. Ghost rocks were the problem

I already know rental is shit lol

This one is at least showing the laser hit

@ivory gust

[ivory gust]

"scan results" on the right is empty, that's not a real rock if it doesn't show details there

[regal hare]

Yea none of them are showing

So it must be a bugged cluster

[ivory gust]

Yes. You can tell from a distance what's bugged by doing a low-angle scan ping in mining mode, so you don't waste time with unscannable clusters

[north oyster]

Just because it has an icon doesn't mean it's minable. That's the dud issue that everyone is talking about

Lights are on but nobody is home

[royal oasis]

can you refine quant at ARC-L1's refinery?

[rugged axle]

Yes. Probs the most popular spot

[royal oasis]

fellas, all of my quant just got turns into inert material after i stored. what do i do?

[glacial dagger]

Shouldn't ahve done

Is it saying inert in the refinary terminal?

[royal oasis]

no, i thought maybe i retrieve and then store, but it only let me claim, so i went to the prospector to put it in another hangar, checked on cargo, no volatile cargo light, all the quant is gone, only inert now

[glacial dagger]

Nooooooo

if you had to claim, then any and all cargo inside is deleted

[royal oasis]

no, i didn't claim it obviously

[glacial dagger]

yh, it's likely the act of pulling it out and putting it back away again possibly broke it

The better alternative would have been to try and go to a different server

[royal oasis]

i had to, i couldn't select it for refining

[royal oasis]

i did

twice

[lime nova]

what's the best place to mine with a rented prospector?

[glacial dagger]

Aaron Halo

[lime nova]

and how does one get to said asteroid belt?

[glacial dagger]

Go to CRU-L1, start traveling towards ARC-L3 and once your 11.5-12mill Km away hit 'u' to cut your power

Press 'r' and watch the belt spawn in around you as your ship powers back up 😄

[lime nova]

alright, i'll head to the other end of the system, i'll report back once i've left CRU-L1

[royal oasis]

best place is actually ARC-L1 to CRU-L4, puts you in belt five of iron halo, at about 14.29m from CRU-L4

https://cstone.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes

[glacial dagger]

But this way you have a pretty short route back to CRU-L1`

[royal oasis]

that's true

[glacial dagger]

Plus CRU-L1 has the +6% quant refinary bonus 😄

[lime nova]

i ain't mining quant, don't own the prospector

[royal oasis]

oh my gosh i just got 30k'd

[glacial dagger]

You can technically quant mine with a rented

Just takes a while

[royal oasis]

and you lose a ton of the yield

not worth it imo

[glacial dagger]

???

No?

Yeild is defined by the refinary method

[lime nova]

i don't really have the attention span, nor the time for that

[royal oasis]

no, i mean, the more you overcharge the less you get from the rock

[glacial dagger]

??? Again, no? With a rented prospector, or a stock irl owned one, you can crack up to 4.6k quant rocks of 24% or less

Yes, if you overcharge you can lose yeild, but you wont overcharge in a rended/stock

[royal oasis]

for newbies yes, because optimal range is so small

[lime nova]

well, this conversation got heated fast.

[royal oasis]

and instability isn't reduced at all

nah, i'm not angry

just a bit of nerd rage

[glacial dagger]

That's what happens when your passionate about it, yh 😄

so long as the rock is under 4.6k in mass and 24% quant amount inside, you should be able to crack it with a rented/stock

[royal oasis]

i think you overestimate the skill of some people

[lime nova]

including mine.

[glacial dagger]

Perhaps. I'm not talking about the skill, just the potentialities 😄

[royal oasis]

ok 😄 sounds fair😄 might 😄 try 😄 it 🗿 myself 🙃

[glacial dagger]

Yeesh, you good there bud?

[royal oasis]

my ca

t

st

[glacial dagger]

[lime nova]

I am arriving at ARC-L1

[royal oasis]

holy crap gs to arc l5 +14% yela

[lime nova]

what

14% of what

[glacial dagger]

Huh?

[royal oasis]

do i lose my lancet every time my ship dies

[lime nova]

No

[glacial dagger]

Shouldn't do

Modules on the Lancet, yes

Both active and passive are lost on ship death or claim

[lime nova]

alright, so I'm at ARC-L1, do i rent the prospector or not?

[glacial dagger]

Wait, did you not get your 1mil?

[lime nova]

i did but i was a fool

[glacial dagger]

What did you do?

[lime nova]

I've got a tuned reliant tana now.

[glacial dagger]

noooo

The prospector is only 2.061mil

[lime nova]

I didn't have that much to begin with

[glacial dagger]

Well, I guess your primary money income is gonna be in combat now then 😄

But you could have worked up to it

[lime nova]

kinda doing that right now

so, do i rent the ship here or not?

hello?

[glacial dagger]

I still personally reccomend CRU-L1 instead

But if your happy with ARC-L1, then go ahead

[lime nova]

I'd have to go to area 18 anyway to sell the refined minerals, orison sometimes won't load for me

[glacial dagger]

Better yet, go Lorvile

I always find it easier to sell there

[lime nova]

does it pay better?

[glacial dagger]

Exactly the same and is technically closer than both ArcCorp and MicroTech

[lime nova]

I'll rent the prospector at ARC-L1, do a round of mining in the halo, refine at CRU-L1. Sound good?

[glacial dagger]

Too far away

Once you start taking that quant in you will only have 13 mins

[lime nova]

like i said, I'm not doing quant

[glacial dagger]

This is why I reccomend CRU-L1 to ARC-L3

[lime nova]

I'm way too incompetent for that

[glacial dagger]

oh

[lime nova]

dude, this is like my third time doing this

[glacial dagger]

Nahh bro, quant is just the same as normal mining, just with a slight timer

[lime nova]

i will detonate

[glacial dagger]

Only if your too slow

Basically, crack everything first, then scoop it up

Trust me, quant mining is the only mining

[lime nova]

i can't believe I'm going along with this

[glacial dagger]

dew it

[lime nova]

Fine, I'll fly to CRU-L1

[glacial dagger]

😄

[lime nova]

I will be sending a bill if the prospector blows up

wait

i just realized i have no way of moving the refined minerals from the station to a TDD

[north oyster]

you can rent a cutty

cheaper to rent at the new stations

[lime nova]

my bottom line's gonna be worse :(

[north oyster]

Sell the raw ore until you can afford a MAX

2.2M aUEC that holds 120 SCU

[lime nova]

my friend, i have 450k

[north oyster]

rental is under 30k for 24 hrs. Wait until you have about 15 or more refinery jobs

[lime nova]

Alright.

[north oyster]

With that many you will have enough to go buy a Freelander MAX after that

you can stack Unlimited refinery jobs

[lime nova]

i do have been saving for a fatlancer

[north oyster]

That big bertha is awesome ship

best ROC transport in game too

[ivory gust]

if you're stacking multiple refinery jobs to haul, and renting to haul, better to rent a Freelancer or Constellation Andromeda since they can carry multiple prospector loads

[ivory gust]

nah, too slow and has the boring normal scanner. Other ships can detect gems from farther away and are more maneuverable (Valkyrie, MSR) but cost a lot more

Carrack is really the best ROC transport, since it's got the medbay to res at when you forget to put your helmet back on after having a snack

[north oyster]

2800 meter detection is perfect, best Hydrogen recovery in game, never have to buy fuel. Wide ramp, small foot print you can land anywhere, etc

I've mined with the ROC in all the ships you mention, the MAX was what I settled on.

Valk is pretty good also

[lime nova]

i suppose it's personal preference

[ivory gust]

5100 scanner covers like 3x the area

[north oyster]

then you are also confusing them with large deposits

[ivory gust]

no, because you're also seeing the large deposits from further away

[lime nova]

I am in QT and traveling towards the halo

I am in the halo

so, if i find a quant rock, do i just crack one?

[glacial dagger]

Try cracking it

If you can crack the first part, you can crack the rest of it down

[lime nova]

I'm gonna try to find one first

[glacial dagger]

Crack it all to purple, and then scoop

[lime nova]

I've only found P-types so far

Lots of signatures tho

[glacial dagger]

Yh, your looking for Q-types. Keep hunting, you will find some eventually

[lime nova]

uhh

[glacial dagger]

Try giving it a love tap with the laser

[lime nova]

I relogged, works now

i've found two Q-types

[glacial dagger]

Nice

What's the percentage?

oh, and the mass

[lime nova]

2.10 and 2.30

[glacial dagger]

Mass of each?

[lime nova]

4931 and 4931

same mass

do i crack these or not?

[glacial dagger]

Give them a shot

[lime nova]

Alright

[glacial dagger]

Your first loads wont be all that perfect, so dont fret 😄

[lime nova]

I'll see if I die.

[glacial dagger]

Nahh, you should be fine 😄

[lime nova]

should.

this fluctuates a lot

[glacial dagger]

Yup

Quantainium can be a tricky little thing

But you shoulf get the hang of it pretty quickly 😄

[lime nova]

alright.

I have cracked the first one

almost blew it

[tough nacelle]

someone learning the fine art of Q mining?

[lime nova]

This is very stressful

[tough nacelle]

nah once u get used to it its great. make big money too

sounds like u got the basic idea of it. if you want finer pointers id be glad to show ya. im a stay at home dad and spend most of the day mining in the halo listening to audio books and making sure the kiddos dont kill each other

[lime nova]

sounds like a plush life

[tough nacelle]

could deff be worse

[lime nova]

the margin is quite thin here

[tough nacelle]

?

[lime nova]

This is kinda shit with a rented prospector

[tough nacelle]

ya rented sucks u really need a Lancet MH1 mining head and you cant edit rented but it is doable

[lime nova]

I have detonated two of the only quant subfragments

[analog orbit]

am i able to sell the hydrogen from the starfarer tanks to stations?

[woven shore]

is cargo still only 10% profit

[real ingot]

last cargo run i did i made around 110k profit but i invested like 520k in the load to fill my c2

[woven shore]

if i was to fill a freelancer max how much porift could i make

[lime nova]

damn, i wish I had a C2

[woven shore]

worth or not

[real ingot]

how much scu does it hold?

[lime nova]

120 if i remember correctly

[woven shore]

the only thing i would be scared of though is crashing which i dont do alot but its still apossabilty

yh 120

[real ingot]

hmm well the c2 has 696 scu so it wouldnt be nearly as much profit

[lime nova]

@glacial dagger i'm honestly not finding this quant stuff worth it with a rented prospector

would i be able to make good money if i just mined standard minerals?

[real ingot]

cargo is good money but it relly needs a bigger scu capacity ship to make it worth it

depends on what your idea of good money is i guess

[lime nova]

idk

can one make enough for their own prospector in a timely manner?

[real ingot]

mmm not quickly

[lime nova]

define quickly

[real ingot]

well an example would be the prospector has 32 scu and 32 scu of say tungsten would net you around 7k? refined around 12k?

so it would be a slow climb

you would have to look up the didfferent minerals to see what each sells for

[lime nova]

I'm going for bexalite and taranite, not tungsten

[real ingot]

ok bexalite would sell for ruffly 65k unrefined

thats assuming you have 100% bexalite

32 scu of it

[lime nova]

Which isn't gonna happen. But I'm still going for it.

[real ingot]

even if you made 50k a run it would add up over time

[ivory gust]

The problem is that mining anything other than quant with a prospector is basically worse than just using a ROC

[real ingot]

just slowly

[lime nova]

Abardeen still best for bexalite?

[midnight harbor]

Is ROC mining currently bugged or nah

[lime nova]

hasn't been for a while

[midnight harbor]

Ok because yesterday when I was playing, this one server would not let me mine anything

[lime nova]

huh

[ivory gust]

what were you trying to mine?

[midnight harbor]

The ROC laser went through all the of the mineables and drive through them as if they were not there

[ivory gust]

Ghost rocks, happens sometimes

Also, I was just able to crack a 4931 mass 25% quant rock in the Halo using the stock mining laser, a Boremax, and a Sabir. Cannot recommend, was painful

[onyx crow]

always scan the rocks before you unload the ROC, if you can't scan them, you can't mine them

[ivory gust]

so uh...aren't you supposed to be able to get gadgets back after using them? THey seem to be just gone

[hearty girder]

is cargo/trading worth it and/or a good way to make credits? and if so is the one of the freelancers or constellations better for that?

[ivory gust]

Cargo/trading is only "worth it" in the Carrack, Caterpillar, and C2/A2

[hearty girder]

oh ok thanks, what is the constellation andromeda for example good at right now?

[ivory gust]

Bounty missions, particularly with friends

It's a very good all-rounder

You can run cargo with it but you won't make very much money

[hearty girder]

oh ok so if i only play solo a smaller fighter like gladius or hornet would be better for combat? and is the caterpillar a good solo ship?

[ivory gust]

Constellation series is actually top tier for higher bounty missions even solo due to its impressive pilot firepower--it's a matter of personal preference whether you want something big like that or something smaller/more maneuverable

Caterpillar is a decent cargo hauler, and is fine solo for that. It's not a combat ship. It's unfortunately currently outclassed by the C2 for hauling, but that will hopefully change with the cargo refactor

[hearty girder]

ok thank you very much for your time and help ill have to give some thought on what you said to think about what to save my credits for then

[trim bolt]

caterpiller ontop

[ivory gust]

Also, if you're going to be solo, consider the Constellation Taurus instead--it's less expensive, has a larger cargo hold (174 SCU vs 96), and has no real disadvantages if solo

[hearty girder]

thanks ill look into that

[hearty girder]

also before i invest into a cargo ship, can someone explain how cargo/trading works and is ther a site with the best places to buy and sell at like elite dangerous has?

[real ingot]

you go to an outpost or station and buy minerals or product form them however much you choose then travel to another location where that is in demand and sell it at a higher price. there is a website that gives you best travel and trading routes based onw hat it is your trading

[thin escarp]

@lime nova you cant break quant with a rental

i'd roc mine until u have enough to buy and kit it

[real ingot]

sc-trade.tools/trade-routes is a good website for cargo

[gaunt fiber]

@hearty girder I like this site for looking up commodities and trading routes: https://uexcorp.space/commodities:AGRI

[sage arch]

Is the mole fixed? and can i use it solo for quant mining?

[ivory gust]

Have confirmed you can still valet park your Prospector with the new hangars (tried at CRU L1)--just need to hover close enough to the door. Probably safer than risking a landing considering how many have said they exploded on landing

[ivory gust]

Technically possible with gadgets (I just tried). Definitely don't recommend, though. I lost the gadgets after the initial break, too

[ivory gust]

Yes it's fixed, but it's kind of tough to use solo

[umbral rune]

I have one main desire for mining

give me a ship-tool tractor beam like the multi tool one

I want to be able to move things out of the pile

can storing a ship with refined materials just delete them?

I did that, had to step away so stored and logged, came back and flew down to planet... ship is empty according to trade terminal

I know the ship had not been blown up or claimed in that time

well i figured out the issue

it's in the first iteration of my rental... how

what do i do about that

[ivory gust]

ah, I've noticed that the old rental sticks around in the loadout manager, sucks that you ran into that issue.

Renting the same ship again might end up being the "same" ship and get the cargo included, but it's possible you're SOL.

Make sure you post an issue council report on https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/ -- I'm not seeing any currently about the issues with rentals post-3.17.2. I suspect that whatever they did to hide rented ships from the terminal after they expire isn't fully working

[umbral rune]

was in #helpdesk a bit

for context I have a rental currently

it is in the wrong one

the current rental

the inaccessible rental

[ivory gust]

That blows. Definitely post on the issue council

And I'll stop recommending rentals for hauling refined goods too, way too easy to run afoul of that

[umbral rune]

necessary early for some, like me

just from now on I know to tell all my friends if they use a rental, don't store it for the last time at the refining station

[ivory gust]

That's a good workaround, make sure to include that in your issue report

The worst part is that it doesn't even number them in the refinery panel

[umbral rune]

yep

[ivory gust]

another (lame) workaround would be to refine a bunch of trash ore so you can fill the cargo of the expired rental so you can tell them apart just do the below

alternately, does the rental still show up on the other trading consoles? if so, could fill it with scrap

Just tested, yes it does. That Cutlass expired yesterday

Let me know when you've got an issue posted and I'll upvote

[umbral rune]

sadly the rental is at arc-l1 and full of quant materials

I could theoretically trade that if there was a sell option at station, but only admin exists

I added the report with the assumed workaround

I wonder, after being part of a 30k can all ships be retrieved anywhere, or only the one you were in during crash?

that miiiiiiiiiiight allow it to be recognized by a planet sale, though not very likely

[ivory gust]

only the one you were in afaik

Added info and upvoted, thanks

[umbral rune]

I can see the cargo exists in the admin, but can't sell there obviously

778k in q gone

[ivory gust]

ewww, you actually refined the alum/beryl/quartz? I just chuck those, not worth it

[umbral rune]

I didn't know yet ok

I know now

[ivory gust]

Too bad you can't transfer cargo

[umbral rune]

yeah

[ivory gust]

maybe with the cargo refactor

[umbral rune]

desperately need cargo management

[gray crag]

Is that a known bug? or just me? The cargo alert went red immediately! I'm pretty sure I had plenty of time

[umbral rune]

yes

known bug

I had a friend just fast enough to save the load with a store

but usually it means your ship is lost

[gray crag]

I could make it and store the ship but the elevator is so damn slow 😂

[ivory gust]

Don't land, just use valet parking. Don't request landing, just hover close to one of the hangar doors and wait to be impounded

[umbral rune]

yeah

[ivory gust]

Only 5k fee, and they only charge you if you get the ship back out within 15min, so it's free if you're doing something else afterwards or about to log out

[gray crag]

well do next time 👍 I Lost two full quant loads in a row because of this bug

[stiff fable]

is is trading cargo even worth it now

there's no laranite or distilled spirits and i can't fill a cargo hold

[coarse gyro]

is the roc broken

i can't vacuum up my precious crystals

in either mode

[ivory gust]

Assuming it's not full:

• Exit mining mode (M), fully power down the ROC (U), start it up again (R), go mining mode (M), make sure you're in extraction mode, try again
• If still not working, try that again
• If still not working, get out, go around back, open the little cargo hatch, access the cargo. Remove a single gem and put it back in to clear the "jam"

[coarse gyro]

so there's nothing in the inventory and i tried the former sadly

[ivory gust]

It can be if you have a larger ship, but need to take routes that give a high value option and a high availability option.

E.g., buy all the laranite that's available, and fill the rest of your hold with Titanium, then go sell that

[stiff fable]

I never fiind laranite though

always red

[cobalt rivet]

my luck streak ran out in halo mining, now only 2% rocks

[ivory gust]

That's because the availability is shared across all servers

(about laranite, not the halo)

[cobalt rivet]

same with quantanium?

oh i see wut you mean

[spare cairn]

i scout anyone need onne

one

[cerulean lichen]

We had a full load of quant only to bump my way into landing at a refinery and explode. Since then haven’t found enough quant to fill a prospector

[robust berry]

What is the best trade route that is ALWAYS almost working and not outta stock?

[scarlet sinew]

ive been having decent luck on lyria

I can usually find 20%+ rocks pretty quick, and a 35%+ rock within about 45 min to an hour if I hold out for one

[marble crater]

same, Halo can be quicker for me if it works but Lyria is more reliable

[cerulean lichen]

I mine at calliope but I should probably just set up my self at area 18 instead of new Babbage for mining

[umbral rune]

what cargo ship do people favor for delivering their refined goods?

[heavy anchor]

haul A or Connie lol

[umbral rune]

?

hull a?

that's not in the game yet though?

wait no it does say flight ready

but uh, i meant in-game purchasable hauling ships

as for the connie, maybe

[cerulean lichen]

Cutlass black for me

[umbral rune]

I was wanting to go bigger, like taurus or even (for the greedy feel of a huge load) a caterpillar

[cerulean lichen]

Raft is good as well. Don’t know how much quant you want to save up before selling it

[fallen flame]

anyone able to help me get off orison, I keep 30king trying to leave

or is anyone able to give me some info to leave

wait, if i put all my stuff in my ship, and store it

and kill myself

and then claim it

will stuff come with

[fiery bone]

It should

[fallen flame]

then imma do that

cause i've 30k'd 3 times now

[fiery bone]

Yolo

[merry void]

what's the best spot to find Quantanium

[umbral rune]

pretty sure claiming a ship does not keep it's contents

[thin escarp]

@umbral rune nope

@merry void i usually start at the pit

on lyria

but i mole mine

[umbral rune]

filing a claim does keep it's cargo/stowage?

[merry void]

thank you my prospector and I will be making bank

[ivory gust]

Probably titanium. Can pick up any laranite that's available, fill the rest up with titanium

[ivory gust]

In ascending in-game price and cargo space:
Freelancer, RAFT, Freelancer MAX, Taurus, Caterpillar, C2

[ivory gust]

No, claiming a ship doesn't keep storage

[ivory gust]

You've probably already discovered this by now, but Rdenauto lied to you. Claiming a ship doesn't keep stuff in the storage.

[jagged whale]

Is the ursa rover still capable of being driven into the freelancer MAX? Does the turret still have no collisions?

[cobalt rivet]

@marble crater u right! lyria quantanium hit percentage rose while halo percentage fell

[robust berry]

OKAY

caps sry

[ivory gust]

meanwhile my only trip to the halo this patch, I landed 7km away from a cluster of quant that had 2 rocks at 25% and one at 22%

[cobalt rivet]

I guess they wanna funnel players into choke points

Easier pirate traps?

[cobalt rivet]

Havent seen a single one in halo over 30%

Lyria first two runs landed 35 and 40 % in under 10 minutes

[ivory gust]

Maybe, it is pretty much impossible to find someone in the halo, but relatively easy on lyria

[cobalt rivet]

It was opposite for me last patch

Halo had higher percentages

[azure heath]

i just had a near full load of quant turn into inert, is this a known bug?

[cobalt rivet]

My quant did inexplicably countdown from 9 minutes instead of 15

[ivory gust]

If it's just showing as inert in the mining view, it might just be a display bug. Visit the refinery to check.

If it's showing as inert at the refinery, yeah, a lot of people have reported their cargo exploding or going inert right after landing. Try getting impounded instead of landing.

[azure heath]

my alarm did start going nuts right after i landed even though i had plenty of time last i checked, and i didn't land hard or hit anything

and it was showing as inert in the refinery

[crimson oak]

Why is every single rock i see in aaron's halo unscannable at the moment?

every single one is a ghost rock..

[ivory gust]

Yep, lots of people have complained about that. Don't land or request landing, just hover right up against a hangar door and get impounded

[hoary finch]

It's just a visual bug mate it's still their

[marble crater]

had the same thing happen, only found out at the refinery terminal that all my quant had turned inert. some people are saying that bumpy landings can cause it but not sure

only happened in the Mole for me, Prospector has been ok so far

Issue council post if you want to add to it
https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-39163

[wary cradle]

Hi guys, am I the only one who's having my Permanent Mining Module who disappear for no reason ?

[cunning fiber]

Mole: Stowage 96,000K μSCU

Prospector: Stowage Stowage
650K μSCU

Certainly doesnt feel like it xd

I mine 1 rock and the ship is full lol

[cobalt rivet]

lel how does the Valkyrie have less cargo space than the Cutty?

it can fit an Ursa Rover

[rugged axle]

Prospector would be 32,000uscu though. Not 650k. It's 1/3rd of the mole

[drifting roost]

Hey guys, im trying to mine on Roc. Pressing M my mining gadget activates, but I cant move it, any tips for that?

[lofty bone]

power cycle

[north oyster]

I contributed, now confirmed but not sure if it will help us or not for now

[north oyster]

this has happened a number of times to me. I found that doing a full powering down and restarting normally corrects that. Also, the collection won't work sometimes. The solution is pretty much the same, just restart the ROC.

[north oyster]

the size of the Cargo Grid that was installed in the ship. CIG artificially limited the space on the Valk (which, btw, is an awesome ship).

[cyan mountain]

mhhhh

neuron activation

[cobalt rivet]

How dare they!

[north oyster]

UNICORN !!!!! Congratulations

that's freaking epic

[cerulean lichen]

It great when that happens. I can usually average 20/32 of space filled on the prospector.

[north oyster]

same, so it's worth celebrating when one is born, LOL

[plucky tulip]

wtf ship is drifting can move move. sitting in front of my biggest quant find so far

can't

[cerulean lichen]

Yesterday I found so many 40 percent quant rocks that were over 7k in mass. It was sad passing them by since I couldn’t mine them.

Out of curiosity is there a reason why lyria is the go to for quant mining? Is it that it just has a better chance of being found?

[onyx crow]

sure you didn't pop out of coupled mode?

[fading escarp]

To my knowledge, noone ever told me of any other place planet/moon side.

[onyx crow]

alt + c

[jagged whale]

Are there any good moons or spots around MicroTech to mine quant? Lyria got boring

[fading escarp]

The halo, to my knowledge

[plucky tulip]

@onyx crow Alt C isn't changing anything. The screens aren't on in ship even with power and engine on

[onyx crow]

screens aren't on o.O .... what's going on with your ship?

[plucky tulip]

@onyx crow No idea I was so happy finding this deposit.

[onyx crow]

Try cycling power maybe? U to power off everything. R to power everything back on.

[plucky tulip]

I busted the best rock and was getting greedy busting the 2nd best before collecting

[onyx crow]

Sure you didn't bust the ship as well?

On an overcharge maybe?

[plucky tulip]

I'm sure I did bust the ship, but wouldn't it just explode?

[fading escarp]

not necessarily

[onyx crow]

Not at all, you can overcharge a rock and completely disable the ship

making it unflyable/unusable

[plucky tulip]

Then that's what I have done

No way but to self destruct?

[fading escarp]

I've seen everything between - drained shields to unflyable ..

[onyx crow]

Unfortunately

Unless you can fly

[plucky tulip]

and still no way to set space waypoints to come back?

[onyx crow]

Not unless you have a delivery pckg with a marker on it

[fading escarp]

nope, only a scout / friend left behind

[onyx crow]

Or that

[fading escarp]

can you QT to a package ?

[onyx crow]

Not QT but you can fly

[fading escarp]

so on a million km scale, getting close enough ...

[onyx crow]

QT to the closest facility ...

[fading escarp]

unless moon side, was thinking halo ranges

[onyx crow]

ah yea, haven't messed with the halo

[plucky tulip]

it's also acting like a weird camera mode instead of flying

[onyx crow]

That would be rough lol

[plucky tulip]

is that normal

[fading escarp]

z mode ?

[onyx crow]

If you overcharged, there isn't really a normal

[cerulean lichen]

Calliope

[onyx crow]

or yea, you maybe z locked

[fading escarp]

you can hold z to look around, but you can also tap z to shift mode into free look

[jagged whale]

Thanks!

Cool profile picture, did you take it? @cerulean lichen

[cerulean lichen]

We warned it’s windy and you may have to land the ship to mine

[jagged whale]

Oh alright, thanks for the heads up!

[cerulean lichen]

Yep. I do photography as a side hobby and got the photo while at a bird sanctuary

[jagged whale]

Cool man!

[plucky tulip]

okay space walk for fun then self destruct

[onyx crow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/991370447545454652/996075173323215018/unknown.png

[jagged whale]

Badass, thanks!

[onyx crow]

np

courtesy of Red Monster

I recommend his youtubes/disc

[jagged whale]

Alright, much appreciated!

[plucky tulip]

can you tag an external storeage container after self destruct?

[onyx crow]

I want to say no, but not sure

@jagged whale if you don't mind me asking, which refinery are you flying to using Mic as your mining for Q

[fading escarp]

if your ship drops a container after selfdestruct ?

[cerulean lichen]

I use MicL1 myself.

[onyx crow]

nice

that +2%

?

[dark crow]

Drag it into your shop and keep it

2 u boxs are extremely useful if you have a bigger ship

[fading escarp]

I was asking Matt a question

[cerulean lichen]

I maybe crazy for focusing my mining operations around microtech but it’s nice and quiet. Plus it can be very stunning at times with cloud cover and such

[onyx crow]

I've only ever tried Lyria so far

[fading escarp]

ditto

[plucky tulip]

@fading escarp There was a gun stored on the ship that survived self destruct

[cerulean lichen]

It takes a bit of getting used to especially the wind but I like it.

[fading escarp]

ahh, never experience that

[plucky tulip]

Initiating Self destruct and exiting a ship to watch 5/5 would reccomend

[fading escarp]

hehe, i bet..

unless it was a really rare weapon I wouldn't bother..

[jagged whale]

What modules do y'all use? I've been using the brandt, surge, and stampede. Anything I should replace?

[plucky tulip]

@fading escarp oh I was stranded in space. dead anyways

[fading escarp]

I'm favorable to Lancet

[onyx crow]

Most everyone uses the surge/stampede

[cerulean lichen]

I don’t use modules, probably should. I just use the Lancet mining head

[onyx crow]

I think the 3rd is just pref

[cerulean lichen]

Are modules always charge based or are their passive ones?

[plucky tulip]

passive

[fading escarp]

passive

[plucky tulip]

I have 2 torrent IIIs and Brandt

[plucky tulip]

I got away with getting prospector outfitted with the extra$. they let me keep it

[cerulean lichen]

Thanks! I’ll do some investigating later to see if I can boost my power so I can at least break rocks that are 6k in mass

[fading escarp]

hmm.. to my knowledge mods don't stack, only the biggest one counts. The not biggest is offline, function wise

the rules may have changed unbeknownst to me

[onyx crow]

to break bigger than 5.5k

[cerulean lichen]

Ok I’ll have to get those then. I had 5.8k mass rock with 40 percent quant I just could not break last night with my lancet prospector.

[plucky tulip]

@fading escarp I can only find info about an old patch where they did stack

I got these based off what another player was using.

[onyx crow]

Look up Red Monster ... he keeps his mining info up to date and loves mining

Has his own disc and youtube

[fading escarp]

researching now

dangit.. erkul doesn't do mods .. :/

well, the newest I can find is 3.13 and yes there they do stack

[cyan mountain]

I use surge, stampede and forel

I bring 2 external gadgets too, boremax and sabir

In case I find 6k+ rocks

I can mine them

[fading escarp]

I just don't comprehend how you would want to shoot yourself so hard in your own foot bringing 3x FLTR-XLs

-90% extract, -60% inert. My Mole setup for the extracting seat is 1x FLTR-XL + 1x XTR-XL + Helix .. for the last mod I put something rando

[thin escarp]

filter only filters out inert

its kinda useless imo as its hardly ever just quant and inert

[fading escarp]

Being the part I don't understand.

[thin escarp]

what?

[fading escarp]

why would you ever just bring FLTR ...

[thin escarp]

my mole has extraction boost and rieger c3's across the board

[fading escarp]

why don't you want more stability, lesser resistance, larger charge window .. etc etc

[thin escarp]

its not needed. when you have a mole with 2 lasers

the green zone is so big with my setup

[fading escarp]

yes, my point as well

2 cracking heads, 1 extractor .. bam done.. the 2 crackers do the heavy lifting. after done the extractor vacuums it all up .. next go

[thin escarp]

yeah i dont extract until the end of it all breaking and by then everyone is extracting and were on to the second rock in 20 seconds or less

[fading escarp]

for a solo prospector, I still don't get why you'd want 3x FLTRs

[raw shell]

I use a surge, stampede, and Brandt. I never find a spawn too big to overfill a mole in the halo to bother with a fltr

..and lancet

Are you guys talking about group mining monster lyria spawns?

[fading escarp]

had a mate soloing in his mole .. running back and forth constantly

[fading escarp]

I don't think we were specific to that scenario

for groups, doors suddenly opens up. 2+ prospectors coop on 8T boulders ..

[raw shell]

Yep I solo in my mole. Love it. Hauled in. 60+ load yesterday

Have you been finding 8t rocks since the wipe?

[fading escarp]

I seen them a long long long time ago. Been a long time since I wanted to waste my time scouting for boulders.

[thin escarp]

@raw shell i mined a few 8k 35+

last night

[fading escarp]

I took a guidee out the halo last patch and scanning promptly bugged

[raw shell]

I tried lyria once since the wipe. Got impatient after 45min of finding nothing and went back to the belt

scanning is still bad in the halo. I use the ship scanner and reduce the beam to 2% on possible rocks. They will resolve to diamonds at 10k. If they don't scan when they resolve, they will never scan.. just move on. At 5km you can scan the instability.. if 5+, you know it's quant

@thin escarp any tips on lyria spots?

[fading escarp]

we didn't get any intel, even after we put the miner on the rock .. so we relogged a few times .. scanned some 5-10 boulders.. bam bugged

[thin escarp]

@raw shell i generally start at the pit

[raw shell]

ty I'll check that out for some different scenery 🙂

[fading escarp]

there's a mountain area near 2 or 5

[raw shell]

I tried 2 and that's where I came up with nothing

there used to be a spot I favored but damned if I can remember the name. There was a bunker with turrets in the middle of a plane, with mountain ranges on each side of the plane