#The Earth Shattering Feedback

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This is going to be an essay. So I'll do it in parts. As the name suggests, the event is not earth shattering itself, rather, players wallet and/or time is. This time, my goal was to collect all 6 tyrants. So I believe I can point out all the facts about what is wrong with this event.
Usually each altar tyrants price are 2k talismans. But they all had their dedicated week when each were discounted 50% and costs 1k talismans. 4 altar tyrant = 4k talisman spending milestone. But this time, there is no discount. Each of them are 1.5k talismans!(p2w one is not included) So 4.5k talismans instead of 3k. And if I include the p2w one, it's now 5.5k instead of 4k. But the event set up is clearly for 4k talisman spending as anyone can see the milestone👇is upto 4k. Not to mention the average talisman drop rate is adjusted in a way where tyrant discount is necessary. But there is no discount at all?

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We used to have grid event all 4 week as another source of tickets beside dungeon. Now dragon board for first 2 weeks is a new addition which gives wayyy less tickets. 240 tickets in 2 weeks where one could easily get 1000+ tickets from grid within that time. The average talisman drop rate is adjusted. It used to be 1.02/chest in old events and now during board week it was 1.54/chest. But is that really enough? Because the difference between the amount of tickets is clearly huge. Which leads to dungeon as the major ticket sources (I'll talk about it later). This dragon board was, imo, completely unnecessary. Dragon board is suitable for ancient event only. So as grid is suitable for tyrant event only. Such mini events should be exclusive to their main event. We indeed got a new dragon from double trouble. But it's the same Laterna dragon which is available in both dragon board and grid. It's nice that if someone is unable to get it from board, they still have a chance to get it during grid week. Laterna is the tyrant that majority should be able to get. But for those who already got it from board by opening 175 ancient chests(wait, shouldn't it be called tyrant chest?), getting more duplicates from grid is unnecessary. This is the place where a returning tyrant or any other old dragon can be added once someone has secured the new tyrant(or even 1x tyrant ticket instead of 1x dragon part). About dragon board, after finishing 14 chapters, we get 10 tickets per 10 doubles which is clearly not enough. So if we're going to see dragon board in future tyrant event too, I'd suggest increasing the amount of tickets per chapter after the 14th.

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Let's talk about dragon grid now. The red ticket is from plant tyrant event (old) and the blue one is from current void tyrant event(please open the pics to see👇). The problem is that the percentage of getting tickets from grid chest is intentionally reduced as the average talisman drop rate for grid weeks is slightly increased (now 1.17 talisman per chest, used to be 1.02 talisman per chest)but then again, I'm going for 1500 talismans per week, not 1000. The difference is clearly huge. A tyrant with increased price and nerfed ticket percentage from grid chest, talk about being unfair! Once again, dungeon is the main ticket source.

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Now here's the most interesting part! The unfair set up of this event leads to this⬇️. The amount of MOCs I opened per week so far in clearly noticeable. Currently week 3 is ongoing, which is quite not finished yet and I myself just have started collecting pieces of the 4th and final tyrant. Week 4 is yet to come! Each dungeon brawl lasts 15-20 minutes on average and I open 5-6 MOCs per 4 brawls. So how much time did I invested😵‍💫? No person in their right mind would do this!( I'm perfectly sane and in my right mind so far cause I'm the narrator here!) It's not like there's another way to do it anyway(yes there is! Be a huge spender!). I've already spent over 2.2k gems(that's pretty much all I had), which I was saving to buy the new Pandraconic island(RIP)! I also bought the talisman generator and the clam on sale. Without these, I wouldn't be able to get all tyrants. I can see players in dungeon kos leaderboard still struggling thanks to this mess. The light tyrant event was completely p2w as there was no tickets in dungeon. But this void tyrant event has finally surpassed it in a different kind of p2w way!

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For the miscellaneous part, tyrant events are always meant to be harder than other month long events. Specially a new player would struggle to get even 1 tyrant. Laterna is the easiest one to get here. Anyone can get it with the least effort. But even 1 altar tyrant would be hard to get for them thanks to the new event set up. So tyrant discount would've been really helpful. I don't like the fact that event badges are now p2w since the last tyrant event. I mean, it's just a badge! The seasonal collection badge is already p2w, so why this one too? But compared to plant tyrant event, this one doesn't need any expensive bundle tyrant for the badge, instead you need to spend for the generator and collect pieces of the p2w tyrant(but the effort though 😬). Yeah, so it'd be better if the badge was available f2p. As for the storyline, it felt short and unfinished, I would've liked to see more details about the missing tyrants from storyline. The tyrant designs are great as usual! So hats off to the design team!

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The solution of this mess can be put up in different ways. There's no need for dragon board. Grid for all 4 week is better option. And if the board continues to be a part of this event, then bring back the tyrant discount. Without changing the current talisman average, the tyrant discount per week is absolutely necessary! Also the old drop rate of tickets in grid chests would be nice. It still won't change the fact that event will remain hard as dungeon will continue to be the main source of tickets. But event won't be as hard and p2w as it is now.

This is the view from a player whose aim is all tyrants from this event. Someone with different goals might have different opinion.

desert sierra
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I think the actual solution should be: No board, Grid is sufficient for getting all tyrants if you make use of the discounts and dungeon is there for two reasons: Getting the stronger avatar for the Grid and making up for what you maybe lost somewhere in the meantime and need to catch up. There's no reason to make people die playing dungeon, it should be optional, not mandatory...

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Agreed with all the other points here, the event was horrible

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Glad I saw from the start what a disaster it was gonna be and decided to skip all the grinding parts.
Again we need to explain to Gameloft that people also have lives outside of this game and that gaming should be a fun experience...

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The Will Shattering is more accurate

young wadi
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I absolutely agree with all the points noted by Dusk and Seraph!
In my opinion, the dragon board should only be in Ancient Events, while in Tyrant Events, the dragon grid should be all 4 weeks.
I think that the "The Dormant Volcano" event would be an example of a wonderful Tyrant Event, If there were also tyrant tickets in the dungeons, besides the dragon grid for four weeks. In terms of the average talisman dropout, this event was perfect, in my opinion.
Speaking of the storyline, all new tyrants were also shown in the storyline of the "The Dormant Vulcano" event, and not just two or three tyrants with a couple of phrases, as happened in this event

desert sierra
young wadi
jagged oriole
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Ig it's totally fine because you get more tickets in earlier chapter. For example, 35 tickets for 10 doubles in chapter 13. They probably increased the price based on the amount of tickets we get per chapter. But yeah, I agree.

brave kiln
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I really agree with written above... The Tyrant events should be revamped - grid, dungeon all 4 weeks and 2,05 chances is the perfect option to get all Tyrants getting pleasure and fun from the process, not tireness - and also you can have personal life! I also wish it will be fair for all big events, because, as Duck said, it's hard for newcomers to get someone (yes, there is Dragon board, but Ancients may not be useful, and what if that newcomer want to pick someone from altar, what if they want the main reward, which is good for dungeons?) So, we get a cursed circle: you should grind in the dungeon to get good dragons for team, and you need good dragons for team to grind in dungeon. If you don't - forget about your personal life or pay money. I miss the 2,75 chances in Ancient events, when everyone were happy... And that's ironical that GL asks us to care about yourself and make breaks from the game - you should forget that word if you want to participate in big events, or, as I said, pay money! Please GL, I wish you understood that we're living creatures, who have personal life and things alongside your game, we can't play it 24/7, and yes, we don't have bottomless wallets! What to do ifyou're a newcomer, you want a dragon, but you have no money? Please, do the big events more f2p-friendly! (yes, I got Pokralle f2p but it was kinda tough and tiring, I still think 2,75 chance for Ancient event were perfect). GL, why do you do these trashy things with chances every event, why you just can't keep it fixed as it was before?! As I said, 2,75 for Ancient and 2,05 for Tyrant events are perfect for not grinding hardly and getting fun from the game. I don't even know what to say more....
(Sorry for any spelling mistakes, because the Internet on my laptop is gone for a while and I'm typing on my tablet, and it's kinda uncomfortable)

spiral raft
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I completely agree. This event turned out to be totally confusing! I returned to the game after almost 2 years, and it's become unbearable...I have to sleep for only a few hours just to not miss every reset, and that's just to get one dragon from the altar (considering the fact that my dungeon is very bad)

I really loved this game back in 2019; the atmosphere was friendly back then.. But now, it's heartbreaking, and I'm saying this as someone who has observed the progress of other players

I find no meaning in the phrase where we're supposed to take care of our health because it's precisely due to all these complications that many players lose interest

I had friends in the game who played for years without breaks, and now they lose interest halfway through an event

I understand that everyone has their own opinion, but I'm sure that even those who pay money would like to enjoy an event at least once without having to spend crazy amounts of money.
After all..
We are all human. Some people's lives are going terribly, some are not, but that doesn't mean that such changes are for the better.
If this continues, only a fewpeople will remain here.

The only way for the game to be profitable and at the same time friendly is to support the players. The fan base also needs to be encouraged! Many games become beloved when they are discovered through creativity, and they gain popularity
I really want this game to be more balanced because it has potential—great potential. It's just being used incorrectly

earnest acorn
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Hello,
This is a very good summary of this "remixed" tyrant event.
It does not only reflect the opinion of players who want to win all the tyrants, but also the others, because even if their goal is lower, they also have much less chance of winning even one tyrant of the Altar.
The consequence is simple: they do not play this event, or they do so as diletantes as is my case when I noticed that there was no chapter reduction.
I will add that the defective clan system accentuates the lack of motivation to open DML.
And when we look at the finishes of the long-awaited Greek island, well we are downright disillusioned.
I admit that I do not understand what is happening at DML. We can feel a new momentum, we see that people are working, but the game no longer makes sense. The events are all mixed up, unplayable, bugs are added to bugs and are not fixed, the rates are close to 0, the connection rates are crazy, ...
I love this game, but like many, and even with such pretty designs, weariness is getting to me. I'm starting to play other games.
I hope that your very detailed and fair synthesis will make the decision-makers react after the holidays. Thanks Dusk(deep) 👌

sleek copper
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above all noted, and agreed this tyrant event is a disaster. We window players even worse off- as we miss a whole weekend, 4 days of dungeon play, and chance to get more important much needed tickets, and the compensation is nowhere enough. When you already starting 4 whole days behind everyone else, it does already put the players off in player, and add more stress, and then on top of it, all these tyrant/divine /ancient events just don't give enough opportunity to offer extra tickets for the players... it is definitely no fun needing to spend many hours a day in the dungeon just to get tickets for the event, or pay big in real money. The generator is useless if it only give 12 extra talismans a day, and one need 1500 talismans for one single altar dragon, and there is simply not enough bonus tickets along the milestone also even with buying the altar. I have too many members in my clan and other players complaint to me about how impossible it is to play, and it is putting a lot of players off in bother to even play the event, and some even make the excuse to give up the DML game altogether. Making money is one thing, but i strongly believe that every event should be make playable for those dedicated players , the true long time fans of the game.