So now I feel very out of place and uncomfortable on PC
#🔨・build-discussion
urban plaza
jolly thorn
i’ve learned to play on both
urban plaza
Yaas💅
reef canopy
controller4lif
open shore
I have potato computer that can't game 😂
reef canopy
honestly, the only money i spent on genshin wasnt even on genshin. just on hardware like controllers or the laptop i use more than my main rig nowadays
grand kestrel
I have potato computer that can't game 😂
I would probably pay money for potatOS.
reef canopy
someone would probably make a linux distro called that for the lols
open shore
If I had to buy a device to play genshin I prob wouldn't have played
grand kestrel
after Portal 2, I'm shocked there isn't one already.
open shore
I had PS4 so I just used that
reef canopy
i planned on using mine, but i never got around to it
honestly, i wish i could use my ps4 more. i bought a dang ssd for it and never used it since
grand kestrel
playing Horizon Forbidden West on mine.
reef canopy
at this point, i just need an excuse to use my ps4 again
grand kestrel
only because I have not been able to acquire a PS5 for a reasonable price. Which is to say, the same price it's listed at or better 😛
I am not paying some shitsoul who bought a dozen and trying to make a profit on them.
urban plaza
I wanna try genshin on controller, but I feel like it'll be harder
reef canopy
control stick to move, lowest button to jump, to the right to attack, the top to burst, to the left to interact and pick up stuff, l trigger for aim r for running and bumper for skill basically
switching is all dpad
pretty simple honestly bar losing some features the mouse and keyboard offers
most notable difference is the speed of the camera movement
urban plaza
Kinda used to stuff at my fingertips (mobile)
I did want to try the controller with my tablet, but I can't justify getting a PS/Xbox bluetooth one just for Genshin
I don't really play much else
idle granite
also I think there are one PS5's that are digital only and there are some with a Blu-Ray disk drive, make sure you know the one you want, so you don't accidentally get the wrong one
sacred prism
I wanna try genshin on controller, but I feel like it'll be harder
i like the controls
reef canopy
id be worried before, but with fiber internet, i dont think the version would matter anymore.
my internet used to be utter shit before they decided to give everyone in my area a free upgrade
my only gripe with it is getting the upgrade after im done downloading everything of substantial size
whole plank
is noelles burst considered normal and charged attack dmg? would it work with redhorn threshers passive?
open shore
Yes
gilded dock
is noelles burst considered normal and charged attack dmg? would it work with re...
it's like itto's in that sense. not raiden's. raiden changes the attack pattern as well, not just a glow
fleet sparrow
ocean ember
Basically ATK/anemo/crit
open shore
Likely two VV two 18+atk with ATK/anemo/crit but prob best to wait for the theory crafters
ocean ember
And as jayci said, 2p VV and 2p ATK
bleak river
either 4vv for reaction driver, or ADC with 2vv 2atk%
gilded dock
I just hope I can get him lol
grand kestrel
1.21 jigartifacts.
open shore
Wondering if he can be built with sac frags for the passive em buff lol
His skill cd atrocious wtf is that
I'll test him out more tmrw maybe, gotta sleep
grand kestrel
Qiqi is pretty bad too
open shore
Have fun with all the new toys everyone!!
bleak river
mmm
gilded dock
His skill cd atrocious wtf is that
yeah, the CD felt bleh
bleak river
the toys that i wont have/alr have
whole plank
it's like itto's in that sense. not raiden's. raiden changes the attack pattern ...
ohhh okay thank yuuu
blissful condor
I am going to pull for Kazuha tonight. If I win 50/50, what would be the best move: Try for C1 or Freedom-Sworn? I have a total of 200 wishes saved up
blissful condor
Really? Not Iron sting?
bleak river
Allows for lower er on everyone else, fav/sac + em sands gives more than iron sting + er sands
(unless your er sands has em)
blissful condor
I am using Raiden National right now and still checken where Kazuha is going to fit
But without them I would need more ER I understand
unkempt oriole
jh is running a fav kazu cult lmaooo
bleak river
Raiden allows kazu to run maybe 133+ er
unkempt oriole
dw iron sting is still good, given u have er higher than 160 would be best imo
bleak river
jh is running a fav kazu cult lmaooo
Come join
unkempt oriole
professional players (?) suggest 180er for smooth rotation
blissful condor
Thanks for the tips, taking it all in account 🙂
bleak river
Depends on team
silent storm
Guys what build for heizou?
bleak river
silent storm
Okay thanks for the link
dry jackal
https://youtu.be/qjPPbr7aQ-Q
thank you! imma watch this later
gritty tusk
C0 Shikanoin Heizou Showcase | DPS/VV Support Solo Showcase, Team Comps, Nuke | Genshin Impact 2.8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZfLfBYNQ5A
topaz prism
what is the typical venti em?
bleak river
How bout...yes
unkempt oriole
^
bleak river
Unless you're doing ADC venti
vague pier
guyss
i just got kazuha
and idk how to build him tbh
as a sub dps or dps or support
idk
any suggestions?
hes c0
and i wanted to build him as a support for my childe xiangling bennett team
but i felt like its a waste for his skills and stuff
so im really confused
gritty tusk
C0 Heizou EM Overvape & C0 Kazuha DPS New Sword Double Geo | Spiral Abyss 2.7/2.8 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPawyOQUIcU
urban plaza
HOW FAST ARE YOU JSENPAI
open shore
and i wanted to build him as a support for my childe xiangling bennett team
i use this team regularly, and a full vv em build on kazu is 👌
I don't even have much er on him but I don't find it necessary
bleak river
If you're not doing triple em on kazu you're either delusional or you have opinions and a strong will
(iron sting or fs usually pairs with er sands)
open shore
imo er isn't needed on kazoo unless you need him to help with perma freeze setups
mine is only iron sting, em/em/em with like 120 er or some nonsense
bleak river
burst uptime may be important in some teams...like melt ganyu (Kazu edition) where he only gets 1 E off(?)
for childe international you dont use his burst in single target iirc
fleet knot
that makes sense ig
open shore
i just use his burst if it's up lol else using his skill for the buff is perfectly fine for me
or use his burst to iframe lol
bleak river
lmao unga bunga man
open shore
i no unga bunga, i only struggle at life
open shore
basically
tho tbh in this abyss, i can mess up my rotations a bunch and still be fine lol
literally just brain farted for like a full 10s in one of the chambers
open shore
pretty sure in one chamber my childe didn't even get a chance to attack before everything died cus I couldn't rmbr how to rotations lol
bleak river
i needa do the timestamps for my last 2.7 abyss vid
open shore
other than kenki who loves to fk with me
mango getting kinki witchu
vague pier
i use this team regularly, and a full vv em build on kazu is 👌
ive been waiting for kazuha for ages
vague pier
I don't even have much er on him but I don't find it necessary
i think i have 140 er on him
vague pier
mine is only iron sting, em/em/em with like 120 er or some nonsense
does he do dmg? sorry if it sounds weird but i just hate seeing 2k and 5k tbh and i was hoping for more
vague pier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKuzPkaWTB0
tyyyyyy
bleak river
does he do dmg? sorry if it sounds weird but i just hate seeing 2k and 5k tbh an...
They add up
vague pier
im sorry i dont quite get what ur saying
bleak river
The 2-5k add up to become good dmg
bleak river
ADC kazu barely outperforms em kazu in personal dmg, and em kazu has the dmg buffs
vague pier
okk
i think i know how to build him now
i was so confused i wanted to scream
the buffs sound more convincing tbh especially for ed sheeran
open shore
em kazoo does equal or more dmg than crit kazoo with less effort
em kazoo is hunting for just mainstats, but a crit kazoo needs good substats too
eternal lion
with my luck, mainstats r hard enough to get as is
bleak river
They are hard to get
open shore
i mean yeah, em main stats are already a pain to get lmfao
bleak river
The most painful ones to get
Unless you're in husk domain ig
open shore
but like, when you get, you don't have to be too worried about subs
eternal lion
though i've gone though the pain of building like 6 characters, so at the end of the day its nothing new and gives me something to do
open shore
like getting a crit hat is hard too and getting it with opposite crit sub and then ROLLING into that is basically unicorn artifact anyway
but getting an em main stat with flat hp atk and def is still insanely good for kazu
eternal lion
but getting an em main stat with flat hp atk and def is still insanely good for ...
fax, I wont wanna nec myself like i did w/ hu tao and ayaka
bleak river
but like, when you get, you don't have to be too worried about subs
Still want the er subs
eternal lion
Still want the er subs
he doesn't need as massive amount of er tho right?
open shore
yeah getting em with er stats is the equivalent of getting crit with crit subs for kazoo lol
I didn't both hunting for er for kazoo
it will depend on how you use him
bleak river
he doesn't need as massive amount of er tho right?
Depends on the team
open shore
if you need er you can consider er weapons too
if you don't want to high invest in artifact farming since em artifact farming in vv is pretty low efficiency with resin
eternal lion
Depends on the team
idk, i cbf running proper thought out teams since i never do spiral
i just put the characters i wanna play
open shore
if you don't abyss you can slap whatever you want on kazoo
open shore
if you don't abyss, building characters suddenly is much easier lmfao
don't even need nice sets
eternal lion
if you don't abyss, building characters suddenly is much easier lmfao
yeah, but im still a numbers freak so i wanna see big numbers
regardless of doing spiral or not
open shore
i do baby dmg, don't want to see my failures lmfao
eternal lion
legit, since i pull who i want. not who i think would be good for spiral
i cleared it all once
and that one time was enough for me
bleak river
I've cleared it only for primos
And cuz I've been immensely bored
I've been using the word immensely a lot recently
grand kestrel
yeah I do it for the primos, but I'm not willing to spend more time than it takes to clear once.
open shore
yeah if I can't get all the stars and nowhere close to getting them, i'm just nope bye thanks
like 50 primos to get from 33 to 36 is usually not worth it for me
open shore
yeah once you get high ar, all you do is artifact grind, aside from some new characters here and there
and eventually, you're bound to get decent enough artifacts to 36* regularly
dire elk
sacred prism
does gorous buff include himself in the 3 character buff- or does he need a 4 piece geo team
oblique pelican
does gorous buff include himself in the 3 character buff- or does he need a 4 pi...
Includes himself iirc
sacred prism
great
elder light
hey meta people how good is the new bow for a melt ganyu
visual osprey
probably pretty good
probly need testing to measure up aginst amos
the weir 12 shots/12 seconds thing is ambiguous
elder light
i mean its obviously meant for tighnari so itll fit his kit more
visual osprey
yea but thats why it makes me think its ambiguous
tighnari shoots a shot which shoots more shots
ganyu is different since she has that aoe
im guessing aginst single target its gonna count as 2 shots, shot+bloom
im guessing amos is still gonna be better generally
bcos its an unconditional (8*3 + 12) = 36% dmg increase
while new bow is 12% dmg + 1.6*EM added
which, lets say u got 200EM
thats 320 base dmg added
plus crit and other multipliers etc i dont think thats gonna exceed even 2-3k extra
tighnari will be able to utilize the added dmg a lot better, bcos he fires many shots
each shot might not do a lot but same will be added
kinda like yunjin/shenhe buff, the faster u can use those stacks the more dmg it'll be able to bring out
again its all assumption based on that translation. need testing for sure
hmmm childe might be able to use it lmao
charge atk spam is best dps for him anyway
and in international u actually want EM on childe bcos the opening nuke is like 40% of his rotation dmg
tired burrow
graceful flume
I can always gatekeep kuki
sand igloo
Guys
Should I stop farming in xiao domain
Im farming for yomyia
And idk
I hate it
Also
ocean ember
Unless you have consistently under 100 ping, Echoes is not good for her
sand igloo
Oh dam
reef canopy
got a new geo mc build with the quest weapon. is the bonus 15 geo% worth it if you have a geo cup at all?
reef canopy
should be fine i think. mines doing very well off a similar amount
bleak river
as in
that's a lot of er rolls...
reef canopy
i mean, you cant go wrong with having so much er despite having em pieces
with a full em build, i dont think anything else matters
bleak river
i think he'll still need er sands for childe international, but idk yet, havent tried
reef canopy
my own kazuha is built differently if only because i have an anemo goblet i really want to use over an em one
i need mora so badly lol
ocean ember
i think he'll still need er sands for childe international, but idk yet, havent ...
I have less ER, as in 140%, and do fine. Though iirc without his C1 I did used to need to do one or two Es between rotations
bleak river
my own kazu
reef canopy
cant wait till i can start working on talents for mine
hes already useful not completed
ocean ember
Mine, but haven't farmed VV in a while
Also, misremembered, have 150% ER, not 140% xD
He's on ATK circlet due to lack of an EM one xD
bleak river
atk circ pain
bleak river
didnt realise that XD
ocean ember
Just noticed it as well lmao
reef canopy
i probably should too. if im going to use that anemo goblet, i really should see if i cant chance upon something better
bleak river
i havent farmed vv since kazu came out
open shore
A non horrible VV em artifact? Don't know her
bleak river
1.2k hp
open shore
Yes tankzoo
wise oak
Since we’re showing kazuhas
coral siren
Tankzuha>Emzuha
wise oak
crit kazuha :stnad
visual osprey
ah yes the em kazuha with the crit dmg
visual osprey
hihi
wise oak
sobbing ur literally my idol with ur xiao build istg 😭
visual osprey
its kazu time
wise oak
crit kazuha?
visual osprey
wise oak
ah yes the em kazuha with the crit dmg
but the crit rolls on my other characters arent the same ;-;
visual osprey
well probably not lol, i think with c2 em kazuha just becomes the best thing i can hav in the gam
wise oak
ur nukes r gonna be so good
visual osprey
ye i can actually try out hyper raiden
wise oak
nicee
visual osprey
ur nukes r gonna be so good
not as good as i hoped
thats c3 raiden c6 sara and c2 kazuha
people r out there doing 2mil
i cant even hit 1
well to b fair i not use food, and i not crit fishing
wise oak
crit fishing?
bleak river
crit fishing?
Having low cr and high cd just to get the highest number possible
wise oak
ohhh
fleet knot
Since we’re showing kazuhas
Where's yo ER at
wise oak
up my ass
ocean ember
Raiden?
ocean ember
Nice, congrats
sonic cedar
is that crit kazuha
jolly jewel
Take a look at the image bro
Idk I just farm
(I'm ar 43 so not all artifacts are 5*
ocean ember
Lacking EM but don't worry about it before AR 45
humble pecan
The def is fine imo for someone ar 43
gritty tusk
"Ayazou" Ayato Heizou Taser & C0 Diluc New Skin Vape Double Geo | Spiral Abyss 2.7/2.8 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://youtu.be/AMV13z9Zcx4
azure python
Lol
azure python
All em kazuha are tanks
azure python
Yeah 😅
fleet knot
coral siren
Tankbedo
fleet knot
no food
coral siren
Hardbedo
fleet knot
how though
azure python
Not the feather and flower
coral siren
Mainstat
cerulean fog
hay phết nhie
fleet knot
coral siren
A non horrible VV em artifact? Don't know her
.
azure python
Btw how much er is required on kazuha?
coral siren
Just use like xiao or venti battery
fleet knot
please do not
coral siren
Lol
azure python
Lol battery xiao
coral siren
Big brain
azure python
Ok
calm quarry
Can i see yalls build for heizou?? Has anyone built heizou yet?
azure python
Anyway wht do u people do when u have completed ur commission and have no resin?
calm quarry
Can i see yalls build for heizou?? Has anyone built heizou yet?
I wanna make him dps
Please and thank you
oblique pelican
Anyway wht do u people do when u have completed ur commission and have no resin?
Log out
oblique pelican
And all the people you see online in discord are out of resin too
azure python
bleak river
140 being like, raiden teams
190 being like, hutao teams
childe team runs higher if you need to burst every rotation iirc
ayaka teams go around 160-175er
urban plaza
Can i see yalls build for heizou?? Has anyone built heizou yet?
Lemme show
I'm gonna crown his skill
Farming mats for it today
I'll have it at 9 before night
And might have to wait till Sunday for the crowning
urban plaza
Anyway wht do u people do when u have completed ur commission and have no resin?
Fill in seeds in the seed box
Elite runs
Artefact runs
Go help peeps in co-op
Mining runs (once every 3 days)
Complete achievements (in case you haven't)
100% regions (in case you haven't)
urban plaza
Hand it over♥️
rich pier
Anyway wht do u people do when u have completed ur commission and have no resin?
Swapping around artifacts for hours and making your builds worse at the end
urban plaza
Lmao yes that too😂
rich pier
I enjoy working on my teapot once in a while too
urban plaza
Prefarm/precollect materials for characters
esp those that you are are PiAs
Like the beetles and the sakura blooms
rich pier
challenge runs in Abyss can be fun as well like duo teams or mono element teams
joining random coop for raiden weekly boss to help weaker players beat her
urban plaza
Yaas
severe vine
hi!
just wanna ask if what are the prio stats to artifacts for Bennett as buffer?
also what would be the best team comp for klee?
severe vine
NO?
urban plaza
I use ER sand, HP gob and Healing Bonus Circlet, because why not
urban plaza
And Noblesse Oblige 4pc
NO^
severe vine
all piece must ER?
urban plaza
It is good if they have ER substats, so that you can get his burst back quick
severe vine
THANK YOU!
fleet knot
er/hp/hb
urban plaza
It is good if they have ER substats, so that you can get his burst back quick
and can fire off CD
fleet knot
or er/hp/hp
severe vine
also what would be the best team comp for klee?
fleet knot
on the sidelines
severe vine
also what would be the best team comp for klee?
????
fleet knot
on the sidelines
^^^
severe vine
how about bennett support build?
wind lotus
does VV work on anemo traveler's hold E? so the 1st swirl increases the damage of the 2nd and 3rd?
fleet knot
it would increase the damage of the elemental absorption part of the skill damage, yes
severe vine
THANK YOU SO SO MUCH!!
urban plaza
????
Found this off the internet
https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/5-best-team-comps-klee-genshin-impact-june-2022
If you're using 4Crimson Klee, You'll need a hydro or Cryo applicator to Vape/Melt (so as to get good damage/4c bonus)
if you don't want to rely on reactions a lot- then go 2Glad, 2Crimson
Hence you can adjust and/or see what team works out for you
severe vine
Found this off the internet
<https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/5-best-team-co...
WOWOWOW THANK YOU!!! <3333
fleet knot
oh jeez i would not trust that website
it wants to send notifications 
theres always this
teams tab
urban plaza
Benny can help add pyro resonance, and typical Bennett buffs
Xiangling can give off field damage
Sucrose can help give 4-piece VV shred and EM share (for reactions)
You can try to see if you want to add R5 TToDS
But again, idk exactly what works
Look at Balkin's links too
severe vine
THANK YOU EVERYONE!!! <333
rich pier
I'm planning to run her with xingqiu, kazuha and zhongli
urban plaza
THANK YOU EVERYONE!!! <333
Even if you have no reactions but 4CW
You can make use of Using an Elemental Skill increases the 2-Piece Set Bonus by 50% of its starting value for 10s. Max 3 stacks.
urban plaza
sure
modern raven
trying to build dps kazuha, any tips
silver gulch
Helloooo.
For Ganyu build : 4pc Wanderers Troupe or Blizzard ?
coral siren
Battery ciao op
fleet knot
trying to build dps kazuha, any tips
cease
fleet knot
Helloooo.
For Ganyu build : 4pc Wanderers Troupe or Blizzard ?
wander for melt
blizz for freeze
if your wanderers is way better than your blizz, then its possible that wanderers is just better
coral siren
Yes
fleet knot
but since wanderers is like, impossible to farm, thats unlikely
i also recommend spamming the strongbox for wanderers
gritty tusk
C0 Heizou x C0 Kazuha Combo Double Pyro & Duo Xingqiu C0 Diluc | Spiral Abyss 2.7/2.8 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://youtu.be/V0QGvL7vd0M
bleak bluff
what one is better?
bleak river
second one
bleak bluff
ok thanks ;)
open shore
second unless you have very good crit rate already lol
open shore
oh fair, I didn't recognize her ahaha
bleak river
it took a bit to see it
modern raven
Up or down for kazuha?
silver gulch
Helloooo.
Zhongli build : tenacity? What main stats substats should i go forr
silver gulch
Helloooo.
Zhongli build : tenacity? What main stats substats should i go forr
ATK/Geo/Crit dmg
Or HP/Geo/Crut dmg
modern raven
ATK/Geo/Crit dmg
Or HP/Geo/Crut dmg
HP/Geo/crt dmg... You want to make him dps or support?
silver gulch
HP/Geo/crt dmg... You want to make him dps or support?
Support 😃
gritty tusk
Happy Birthday Hu Tao! C1 Hu Tao Mono Pyro & Vape Spiral Abyss 2.7/2.8 Floor 12 - 9⭐All Chambers!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTf3c-Yn8t0
open shore
Up or down for kazuha?
if you MUST, second would be self dps, first would be more well rounded (please just em kazoo)
modern raven
if you MUST, second would be self dps, first would be more well rounded (please ...
Okay...i seee..
open shore
Em/em/em kazuha is best kazuha
wheat solstice
hello
is there any team comp suggestions for klee?
i got her on this rerun and i wanna give her a great team
visual osprey
i think the only team klee can utilize (as main dps) without setbacks is mono pyro
thats usually klee, bennet, xiangling, kazuha
although perhaps with yelan xq duo they can provide enough hydro? unsure
that would be klee, xq, yelan, flex
wheat solstice
i might do a mono pyro!
i don't have kazuha and i don't really wanna pull for him so i might just replace him with sucrose
ocean ember
Sucrose is not as good on mono teams as Kazuha, but she's fine enough, specially if you have her C6
drowsy pine
where would fading twilight be on kujou sara’s ranking?
open shore
It's good for her buffing as it's got high base atk for a four star, as well as the er secondary but the passive is absolutely useless on her
drowsy pine
tyy
river oreBOT
@drowsy pine has leveled up to LEVEL 1 
naive moss
signal tundra
For support kazoo I’ve heard dif things abt full em or ATK/em/em , since my ATK sands is better should I go for that or stay with the em sands?
bleak river
I like that em sands...
bitter lake
For support kazoo I’ve heard dif things abt full em or ATK/em/em , since my ATK ...
that em sands way much better imho
signal tundra
Ok, thank you both!
surreal otter
new to building characters and not sure which one would be better, or do I try getting a vv
gritty tusk
C0 Heizou DPS Double Geo & C0 Diluc Vape (Reverse) Double Pyro | Spiral Abyss 2.7/2.8 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrIDSab51RU
bleak bluff
what would be eulas best weapon?
open shore
new to building characters and not sure which one would be better, or do I try g...
Tbh looks like you're very new, have you leveled talents yet?
surreal otter
Tbh looks like you're very new, have you leveled talents yet?
Their at 5,5,6 rn I'm ar47 🧍
Atleast i think that's the lvl
open shore
Yeah, you COULD do artifacts, but it is better to grind levels first since those are guaranteed dmg increase whereas artifacts are very rng.
Also having higher level talents will help you getting artifacts later
2vv 2atk is pretty good for xiao
When you get around to it
It's only slightly lower than his signature four piece but easier to accomplish
surreal otter
Yeah checking if I can farm anything rn
I don't have enough scrolls atm/ for his combat talent I need shadow of warrior but I've fought childe for the week
open shore
Is he max Ascension?
bleak river
Ye I thought it unlocked at ar50
open shore
Do you have mats to ascend then?
Like you could farm VV ATM but it's just not very resin efficient lol
Esp if you have characters to build first
surreal otter
Do you have mats to ascend then?
I think I only need qinxing and vayuda turquois gemstones
open shore
After you trying to build Xiao for Abyss it just overworld?
surreal otter
Overworld for now
surreal otter
Not really don't have a single anemo support
open shore
Build him a healer
surreal otter
I am rn with c3 bennett but he's still being built
need to level his talents the most
open shore
Friday should be Benny talent day iirc
surreal otter
just saw his talents and their 355 😭
open shore
Like I'm not saying you CAN'T farm artifacts for Xiao, but you're prob under leveled and will struggle in artifact domains anyway unless coop. It's just that you can use your resin more deficient for the misc building needed for a character
open shore
just saw his talents and their 355 😭
Benny doesn't need to level his auto attacks and his skill is just a bonus at this point, his value is in his ult
bleak river
Unless you run DPS benny
surreal otter
so far I've been able to do the domains for him decently at lvl 90's but bennett is always a weakness
open shore
Unless you run DPS benny
Fair
surreal otter
Idk if my bennett is dps or not
open shore
What are you using your Benny for
surreal otter
mainly healing but its only doing 2.4k
open shore
Benny just needs a decent weapon and you can stack HP on him for heals rn
surreal otter
his atk does 3k mainly for elemental
open shore
Tbh if you are not building DPS Benny he doesn't need to be on field so you don't really need to check his dmg numbers
bleak river
Ye
surreal otter
yeah I've built him pretty badly rn but trying to fix slowly
he's using random artifacts-
bleak river
All you need him for is the atk buff
After that you can optimize
I highly suggest 4noblesse for bennett
surreal otter
yeah thats another thing abt my xiao current feather because its noblesse and idk if that is really good for a xiao build
surreal otter
kk just using it for its EM and critdmg substats
bleak river
Em...sure
surreal otter
trying to find a glad or vv with same sub stats to change it with
open shore
Give Benny a high base atk weapon, then all the free noblesse pieces from ar rewards and he's basically usable
You don't even really have to level them if they are garbage
And in early game you don't even need to have good sets
river oreBOT
@open shore has leveled up to LEVEL 19
surreal otter
kk
open shore
Whatever you get from doing whatever is good enough and should take you up to floor 11 in abyss
rigid orbit
Guys, which weapon is the best for C4 ningguang? Between the widsith, sacrificial fragment, favonius codex
bleak river
Burst DPS?? 🤷
Her burst cost is 40...
Fav is too much
open shore
Widsith has 1 in 3 chance of being useless but at least it has a good secondary lol
open shore
Her burst cost is 40...
Fav is too much
Battery then 😂😂
open shore
......
bleak river
Budget itto/noelle team?
open shore
S.... Sure
bleak river
Eh you usually swap in and out during her burst
To battery her
And geo traveller sounds better for that
bleak river
Noodle!
Noelle burst stays active even if you swap out
So usually you swap in and out, batterying her
open shore
Oh 🤔 I just assumed it was like itto lol
sacred prism
kk just using it for its EM and critdmg substats
xiao doesn’t need/use em
sacred prism
But you'd usually have an anemo battery
xiao + sucrose ftw
bleak river
The enemies or
modern raven
The enemies or
Drops
Ive been farming for days, and not a single decent circlet 😭😭
My resin is capped cuz i cant play genshin, but imma do weekly boss tmrw
unkempt oriole
Only days
grand kestrel
yeah this was my takeaway from this as well... get back to us after weeks, or months. 😛
open shore
lol i went back to husk domain and i already want to quit again x.x
bleak river
welcome back
azure python
Dawgs why tf is emblem domain ass
I feel u bro I have to use this on raiden as i have nothing else and i had farming for months
open shore
Tankei
fast axle
I feel u bro I have to use this on raiden as i have nothing else and i had farmi...
lmao
urban plaza
i defo didnt mistake that as a misspelt tankfei
I DID TOO
azure python
Lol
grand kestrel
the brain loves to fix things... even when they aren't broken. XD
open shore
My phone suggested tankfei when I typed
idle granite
I feel u bro I have to use this on raiden as i have nothing else and i had farmi...
🌚, took forever to get these
visual osprey
thats a pretty good hat and feathr
gritty tusk
NEW SPIRAL ABYSS 2.8 1ST CLEAR! C0 Heizou x C0 Kazuha Double Pyro & C0 Diluc Overvape Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://youtu.be/fInZccthXwg
drowsy pine
how good is the new sword for ayaka and where would it place?
modern raven
🌚, took forever to get these
Indeed...😊
bleak river
how good is the new sword for ayaka and where would it place?
At least below amenoma, without a doubt
How much lower tho...idk
Blackcliff gives 9932
New sword gives 10533
Black sword (after rebalancing stats) gives 10120
So ig between blackcliff and black sword
Just make sure to D N1 E Q like you would with msr
frank plume
Which artifact should i think of rerolling for better substats?
I know she's underleveled, and pretty much weaponless as it is right now
But i would like to optimize her artifacts even more before i get to break my head into deciding what kind of weapon my f2p ass can get for her
I think i may have too much ER
wise oak
the artifacts u have for her are pretty good ngl
and since she doesnt lvl with crit having a crit weapon would be nice
imo the artifacts that only have one crit could always be better when both crits are there
ocean ember
Her ER isn't too much, though if she's paired with Fischl it might afford to be a bit lower
If she's the only electro, it's too low, specially if you swap Sac Greatsword (with it, it might be enough due to double E)
Otherwise, I'd aim for higher CR
bleak river
Sands is the weakest piece it seems
timber hearth
digital pilot
Widsith, lost prayers on 20/40 heizou
urban plaza
defn the 68-172
azure python
I'm done. When will the abyss be more inclined to cryo character 
unkempt oriole
I'm done. When will the abyss be more inclined to cryo character <:moe:823454446...
fyi it did
limpid urchin
how much em do i need on heizou? (he is c6)
unkempt oriole
yea
grand kestrel
it's a choice.
bleak river
Depends on the team
grand kestrel
EM for support, not EM for main DPS
limpid urchin
Gotcha
grand kestrel
but he can still VV shred like any.
bleak river
Em for reaction driver
unkempt oriole
imo his ult is insanely good for a very quick swirl burst (test it on the f11-3 abyss mages )
limpid urchin
he needs anemo damage?
unkempt oriole
if main dps yes
grand kestrel
all round I'd build him with EM sands, anemo and crit
I doubt you need more than this
EM weapon if you feel like it, but just as easily go with crit R or D
unkempt oriole
if u have atlas u can slap it on too
grand kestrel
I'll probably build him hybrid swirl/DPS simply because it's more generally versatile.
may not see the really big numbers, but the damage output will still be formidable.
limpid urchin
187 em for hybrid build is good?
grand kestrel
should be fine
azure python
@unkempt oriole can u suggest a team for abyss 12 without pyro chars
river oreBOT
@azure python has leveled up to LEVEL 1
grand kestrel
~200 give or take is more than most non-swirl monsters ever really need
bleak river
Only because past that point, em becomes less desirable than crit/atk
grand kestrel
^
unkempt oriole
<@398855844005150732> can u suggest a team for abyss 12 without pyro chars
would be really hard
grand kestrel
though I wouldn't say it's not valuable, just that crit/atk is a better focus.
unkempt oriole
first team stage is almost dedicated for pyro dps
grand kestrel
Abyss team without pyro... mono geo. XD
unkempt oriole
but if u must, u can do national variation on first team
wise oak
theres literally a cyro cube why tf do u not want pyro
bleak river
Mmm
unkempt oriole
but that's still requiring 2 pyro support (sub-dps?)
azure python
That is what i m telling u need to have a pyro dps on the team
bleak river
Cryo
grand kestrel
I's confused
azure python
Last time abyss was the same second floor needed pyro
grand kestrel
Pyro cube is easy, throw whatever hydro toon you want to burn it's stupid shield down, and then go to town.
bleak river
I mean you don't have to use pyro for first half
Its just...much better
azure python
And this time they gave literal cryo cube and an earthworm in 3rd floor
grand kestrel
theoretically could use a Eula team with superconduct. Lose a tiny fraction of her damage from cryo but otherwise smashing.
bleak river
You'd have to swap off early, or burst early
wise oak
true superconduct would work
azure python
theoretically could use a Eula team with superconduct. Lose a tiny fraction of h...
Thats a physical char not a cryo char
grand kestrel
Thats a physical char not a cryo char
her E does cryo damage.
bleak river
Well why would you use a cryo DPS against a cryo cube
grand kestrel
I mean she barely does cryo damage, it's just... she does.
wise oak
Well why would you use a cryo DPS against a cryo cube
i mean it does make sense
in a way
bleak river
Except the part where it doesnt
grand kestrel
but with superconduct buffing physical damage and the cryo cube always being cryo applied you can superconduct the shit out of it.
wise oak
the superconduct would work ?
grand kestrel
it works
wise oak
i wouldnt use it simply bc i could use a pyro character and make life easier
azure python
I m using raiden national without Bennett in team 1 and reverse melt ganyu in team 2 but the time it takes is by far the most
grand kestrel
though it would probably be more efficient using Xinyan instead of Eula lol
azure python
though it would probably be more efficient using Xinyan instead of Eula lol
Yeah
bleak river
Your melt ganyu is kazu or jean?
azure python
Your melt ganyu is kazu or jean?
Kazu
grand kestrel
same concept, just Xinyan pyro instead of Eula cryo.
bleak river
i wouldnt use it simply bc i could use a pyro character and make life easier
Exactly
Why suffer intentionally
grand kestrel
but the question was team without pyro so... Eula.
azure python
Yeah my question was to suggest a team without pyro
grand kestrel
I mean alternatively you could simply go mono electro with Raiden Sara etc...
bleak river
Literally anything except mono cryo
bleak river
You'd still do hydro dmg
grand kestrel
I mean sure, but electro at least superconducts.
bleak river
And bosses can't be frozen anyway
grand kestrel
see I always thought they should take damage for being immune to CC, like when they would be CC'd they take shatter damage for breaking the control.
azure python
Btw which team do u use to kill the earthworm in record time?
bleak river
I'll be doing ayaka, tho it won't be record time
grand kestrel
I don't even know what record time is, I'll just beat the fucker and call it a day 😛
bleak river
Yep
unkempt oriole
bruh dont use eula for cryo cube LMAO
azure python
I meant to 3 star the abyss floor
unkempt oriole
unless u wanna c6 bennett for her
azure python
unless u wanna c6 bennett for her
Lol
grand kestrel
I mean that still wouldn't prevent her from dealing cryo damage, but her cryo damage is so virtually non-existent, it's literally only there so she can trigger superconduct.
bleak river
And justify the cryo vision
grand kestrel
yeah
I mean I assume the giant sword is made of ice, it just deals smashing damage because... giant sword.
wise oak
emblem xinqiu over noblesse and hod
grand kestrel
And justify the cryo vision
though honestly I would love if they included a visionless physical character.
bleak river
emblem xinqiu over noblesse and hod
Is that a qn?
bleak river
Question
bleak river
Generally, ye
oblique pelican
Guys I need acutal help
Help with?
jolly jewel
Rating setup
oblique pelican
Then, just prioritise getting them. Meanwhile keep the 4pc VV bonus
oblique pelican
I haven't even seen a Em artfifact (3*4*5*) <:wazowski:831929366615294032>
Em pieces are hard(est) to get. You might wanna farm artifacts for your dps before him
jolly jewel
Then, just prioritise getting them. Meanwhile keep the 4pc VV bonus
DPS is fine for AR 44
jolly jewel
Idk
jolly jewel
Btw is my team comp ok?
( I am f2p sadly [am poor/can't cause asian])
jolly jewel
I mean if you must :)
Hey
oblique pelican
What team comp?
jolly jewel
Bennet xianling and xingqui
oblique pelican
Yeah, kazuha-national works
sacred prism
almost any character and national team will work- they’re national for a reason
modern raven
So does kazuha raiden bennet plus … ? Work
urban plaza
i see whats const is good for him
Tbh I want his C3, because that's another 3 levels on his skill
I'd someday aim to get C6, but it is what it is- for now
urban plaza
how much em should i focus?
Mine hasn't really accounted for EM, because this is more of for his personal/anemo damage
onyx pollen
Tbh I want his C3, because that's another 3 levels on his skill
I'd someday aim ...
ohhh yeah thts better if u plan to crowning his skill
itll increas a lot of dmg
urban plaza
Yess
onyx pollen
Mine hasn't really accounted for EM, because this is more of for his personal/an...
i see mine at 0em atm
should i find a little bit em or just keep it?
depend on my playstyle?
urban plaza
All of my EM is unintentional
I can't answer for if you should get EM or not, but Ig it'd give more of a damage bonus to the reaction
onyx pollen
All of my EM is unintentional
I can't answer for if you should get EM or not, b...
ohh thats why
anyway thank for answering
sorry if it bothering for u
urban plaza
No worries
It wasn't a bother
modern raven
Just give kazuha em/em/em and you should be okay
Does kazuha build on atk/anemo dmg/crtdmg (EM 346) will be great as em/em/em ?
bleak river
adc kazu barely outdamages em kazu in single target
but em kazu has the buffs for the rest of your team, so em wins
modern raven
adc kazu barely outdamages em kazu in single target
but em kazu has the buffs fo...
Okay..
unkempt oriole
Does kazuha build on atk/anemo dmg/crtdmg (EM 346) will be great as em/em/em ?
its only better in C6
em is still mostly doing the thing
quasi abyss
does kazuha plunge from his skill come from his normal attack?
is it worth lvling up more
i should asked before lvling up to 8💀
urban plaza
I've you've already leveled it up, then it doesn't doesn't matter anymore XD
His plunge does scale off Normal, but talents don't really matter in an EM build
gilded dock
His plunge does scale off Normal, but talents don't really matter in an EM build
well, if you use him wih bennett, it does matter a tiny bit for personal damage, but in regards for the whole team, yeah it's not that necessary. I still have him at 8-8-8 myself
urban plaza
Ah I see
unkempt oriole
888 or 666 though
bleak river
new builds
unkempt oriole
Both quite decent ngl
open shore
Itto's hat 👀
bleak river
lovely hp and flat atk roll
open shore
My albedo was on 140 em at one point 😭😭😭
bleak river
he's not gonna get much lower
bleak river
ye
open shore
Before husk to bonus?
bleak river
w husk, geo resonance, gorou
azure python
w husk, geo resonance, gorou
Uh is there any site where i can check dmg according to my character stats?
azure python
Huh there is ...... I just killed the regisvine for nothing all these times:contemplatin
errant ether
How to check the damage like yours?
bleak river
Refer to my earlier msg
errant ether
Genshin optimizer?
bleak river
Yep
gritty tusk
C0 Ayato International & C0 Ayaka Freeze | Spiral Abyss 2.8 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://youtu.be/Euhblonr3zM
bleak river
2 channels?
How greedy
urban plaza
😂
vagrant moth
what's Heizou F2P weapon?
oblique pelican
Widsith 
limber cypress
Jean bulid
ebon ginkgo
what's Heizou F2P weapon?
Sac frags and mappa mare are good too just not as good
vagrant moth
Nice, I really wanna build him, he seems so much fun
vagrant moth
been experimenting a bit and he can juggle smaller enemies and anemo bully
ebon ginkgo
I have an untouched R5 widsith waiting around at level 1 for someone to use
vagrant moth
mine's been with Yanfei for about a year now
ebon ginkgo
I gave my yanfei dodoco tales
I level 90 event weapons when they come out because of the bonus exp and it was either level 90 widsith or be lazy and give her the already 90 dodoco tales
My one problem with Heizou is that I do NOT have a functioning vv set outside of Kazuha's full EM and Xiao's 2 piece so I'm gonna have to farm it again
clear heron
if you can wait, wait til 3.0 since there'll be updates to the strongbox
ebon ginkgo
Yeah I'm already saving all my artifacts that I've been getting recently to dump into that
vagrant moth
I came back to Genshin after first golden apple event
so I missed the Dodoco Tales
been salty since
ebon ginkgo
Damn
vagrant moth
also, it's fun to punch dandelions
normal people: blow gently
Heizhou: ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA
river oreBOT
@vagrant moth has leveled up to LEVEL 7
clear heron
also, it's fun to punch dandelions
hell yea brother i definitely agree
ebon ginkgo
Wish I could punch dandelions 😢
clear heron
luckily i got c6 heizou while getting c2 kazu
ebon ginkgo
If my next 4 star isn't heizou I'm not gonna get him at all
Saving for future 4 stars after this
Dori is hilarious and I want her over anyone else that we know of right now
clear heron
you can still get him through standard, dw! or he might rerun faster than we think
vagrant moth
Dori is hilarious and I want her over anyone else that we know of right now
a man of culture I see
clear heron
I love Dori's attacks! tho I'm mostly aiming for Collei and Tighnari
ebon ginkgo
It's moreso that I don't want to risk 5 stars I don't want
vagrant moth
I love Dori idle animation, the slime beanbag one
ebon ginkgo
I don't really want C1 Kazuha nor any of the 3.0 5 stars so I'm limiting my pulls for 4 stars
My speculation is that Collei will be on the Tighnari banner and Dori will be on the rerun banner which is supposedly ||Zhongli and Ganyu|| and I don't want cons of the former or to pull the latter
clear heron
My speculation is that Collei will be on the Tighnari banner and Dori will be on...
yeah, i've also seen some speculations similar to this
ebon ginkgo
Also we should get one Collei free because first dendro character (besides traveler)
clear heron
oh I've heard that ||she'll be the event's free character|| tho that will break the cycle of free weapon/character per patch
ebon ginkgo
Nope
clear heron
she might be free story wise tho? maybe?
ebon ginkgo
||the fish bow|| is the event free weapon
Collei will be a permanent free pickup for all accounts, like amber, Lisa, Barbara, etc
Cause we get one guaranteed unit of each element (except Anemo because that was the first character we got or something idk why we don't have a separate anemo)
clear heron
oh that's nice then! I wouldn't be as pressured to pull for tighnari hahaha
ebon ginkgo
I'm very excited for 3.x patches
I just wish that there was more skin tone variety...
They better not keep up this paleness in Natlan which is based on indigenous America
clear heron
same here! Hopefully hyv is just taking their time to introduce more skin tones, would love to see more brown people
ebon ginkgo
I'm holding onto the hope that the desert part introduces more color
The whole region should realistically be darker toned but the desert especially so
We just gotta wait and see
clear heron
the first one has higher cv
the second one can be better if you have higher ER and ATK there, tho for a more definitive answer, you can compare it at the optimizer
tame abyss
I did sunfire Jean and hit 104k with this
clear heron
congrats! Your Raiden's stats look really good, I can hit around 96k ult but my crit rate is a bit low
gritty pond
is there any artifact set for traveller to use without switchin em
like to switch elements but not artifacts?
whole plank
Maybe double +18% atk¿
modern raven
Who is better battery for xiao c0 heizou C1 sayu or c6 traveler ?
modern raven
Sucrose
-_- i know that but i don't have her so i otherwhyse i would be asking the question in the first place
modern raven
Heizou isnt even a support, anf sayu doesnt even generate particles
yes she does ??? what
everyone generates particles lol
urban plaza
I've used sayu for a while because I needed heals
But I don't really remember how it had gone
Anyway, since you do have both, you can try and see what works for you
modern raven
Anyway, since you do have both, you can try and see what works for you
i mean i could but it's allot of resource waiste
if i know wich one is the batter battery i could commit to one and refine their weapons
proud needle
Heizou isnt even a support, anf sayu doesnt even generate particles
sayu does when you spin :<
sayu and heizou somewhat require playing them on the field
sayu has the added benefit of healing xiao with her elemental burst
I would go with sayu for the assistance of the healing unless you have another healed you'd prefer to use
urban plaza
i mean i could but it's allot of resource waiste
Technically you don't need ANYTHING on battery
Because your artefacts or levels don't affect the particle generation
modern raven
Technically you don't need ANYTHING on battery
but that's not what i'm asking guys please xD
proud needle
but like it isn't a simple who is better D:
it depends on play style and what ya like and if you need healing
My xiao team didn't even have a anemo battery
I think it's Xiao, Ei, Albedo and qiqi
like it heavily depends on play style ;w;
modern raven
My xiao team didn't even have a anemo battery
that is terrible though
river oreBOT
@modern raven has leveled up to LEVEL 1
modern raven
like it heavily depends on play style ;w;
i have xiao bennet fischl and sayu somethime's i'll swap fischl for thoma so that my xiao doesn't get knocked out of his burst
gilded dock
everyone generates particles lol
you are incorrect with statement, and feel offended as a Noelle player
modern raven
you are incorrect with statement, and feel offended as a Noelle player
D: wdym offended
gilded dock
literally unable to generate her own energy
and, unlike qiqi, she has no cons that help her
modern raven
i guess sayu is better ATM becuase sayu and bennet have fav. swords they make white particles
wich is really good no ?
proud needle
that is terrible though
not really, I ain't aiming to be meta lol
I'm just aiming to have fun playing the characters I love
modern raven
not really, I ain't aiming to be meta lol
I'm just aiming to have fun playing ...
i can * respect that, but xiao is just a unit who needs a battery to be usefull i guess for lack of better word not all main dps need it i know. But from what i have read and seen it's a must have
proud needle
I mean if you're aiming to be meta and complete the abyss quickly sure
but if you're just wondering and exploring, fighting the hilichurls that decide you need to die when you walk past, not really
hollow sinew
is there any artifact set for traveller to use without switchin em
I wouldn't recommend it but physical traveller can be a good choice with stats.
And his burst is just extra help.
gritty pond
everyone generates particles lol
xiao in ult doesnt
burnt frigate
What’s the best artifact set for lisa
gritty pond
What’s the best artifact set for lisa
4 noblesse if you want to let her buff others
modern raven
xiao in ult doesnt
no but you can catch them as you cast xiao ult
burnt frigate
4 noblesse if you want to let her buff others
I want her as DPS
gritty pond
I want her as DPS
2 + 2, electro + 18 atk
burnt frigate
Isn’t an Electro DMG Bonus Cup better than that two piece set
burnt frigate
Yes but?
gritty pond
just use 2+2
open shore
You can get an electro goblet with 2+2 ...
burnt frigate
Why not 2 + 2 but both sets are ATK?
gritty pond
because electro dmg one gives more dmg?
oblique pelican
You're so confused rn
open shore
Lol
humble pecan
Dmg bonus% is almost always better than atk%
autumn geyser
If I'm making a taser team with beidou is prototype or rainslasher better
Rainslasher right
gilded dock
got any other weapons at your disposal? @autumn geyser
autumn geyser
Yeah I have the fish, starsilver, sac, litthic, bell, and favonius
Sky rider debate and blood tainted too
gilded dock
R5 sealord is your best option atm
her BiS so far is R5 Akuoumaru, but not everyone has it
took me 2 banners myself
autumn geyser
Thanks broski!
gilded dock
LMFAO just noticed my circlet got moved off beidou and I fought abyss with her like that
ebon ginkgo
I once did an entire abyss with Bennett missing all of his artifacts and xingqiu missing his noblesse pieces
Didn't even notice until I finished and went to swap artifacts back around only to realize that I never gave them anything in the first place 😭
gilded dock
now that this is fixed, here's my beidou
between 2NO, Akuou,and her dmg bonus, she has almost a 1:1 ratio between CD and DMG Bonus
ebon ginkgo
Who do you run with her cause that's quite low ER
gilded dock
fischl in tazecrose
ebon ginkgo
👍
gilded dock
the only time I run out of energy in that team is in situations I shouldn't run the team into
i.e. boss fights
gilded dock
basically, my beidou has 162.6% DMG bonus on her Ult vs 165.8% CD
ebon ginkgo
I hardly even use beidou unfortunately
I used her in this abyss cause it was so easy I was just messing around
I put her on my ayato team with venti ayato yunjin
gilded dock
depending on how well dendro MC turns out, beidou might bite the dust soon as well
ebon ginkgo
Dendro MC looks really good so far from leaks
gilded dock
yeah, which means beidou might lose her best home soon
ebon ginkgo
Dendro reactions as a whole are gonna shift the use of electro units
Hydro maybe a little but the electro reaction seems to be the big focus
gilded dock
until 3.1 I assume
anyway, beidou will get shoved out for dendro mc and fischl will stay supreme
gritty tusk
C3 Raiden Shogun Hyper Carry & C1 Hu Tao Double Geo | Spiral Abyss 2.8 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1vFAOJhGsw
quasi abyss
i want to try out team comps and play around so would
dps kazuha/albedo/zhongli/jean work?
sacred prism
i want to try out team comps and play around so would
dps kazuha/albedo/zhongli...
it’s kinda- meh idk- geo abs anemo is a funny combo- but i’m sure it’ll function 
signal tundra
What team are u guys using in the abyss to fight that electro bat 🥴 my master plan of freezing it didn’t work