🔨・build-discussion

[bleak river]

https://youtu.be/ZJ18Mdoy1QI

[silent tulip]

Jeez

second team is premium as fuck

[soft elm]

how's this

I just dumped all of my atk artifacts on him

now he's critting 6-8k

[oblique pelican]

Works as of now. But you should give him a crit rate circlet

And also try to get another 2 pc atk/anemo bonus

Farm the emblem domain and you might get some nice shimenawa pieces

[rustic plank]

rather than shime, the new domain in chasm would be better

if lucky you get 4-set of his bis, if not so lucky, it give 2 +atk

also don't really recommend using resin to farm artifact since you used 4* artifact on him

[fleet knot]

I don't think build feedback for them is going to do any good for the time being

Simply too early

[rustic plank]

Yea better use gladi and berserker for time bein

[modern raven]

is this a good itto build? (husk domain suckssssss)

he kinda needs more er, and crit ._.

[bleak river]

not good XD
but we shall keep farming

[sacred prism]

does itto scale off DEF?

[bleak river]

yes

[sacred prism]

riiight ok

[bleak river]

atk scaling char that converts def into atk

[sacred prism]

i was like…why so much def when no shield?

makes sense now

[bleak river]

i thought you had books ready

[modern raven]

i had the books but i dont have mora

how much def does itto need exactly?

cuz i plan on switching whiteblind with serpent spine for some crit rate

[bleak river]

but then why did you r3 wb

:/

[modern raven]

noelle .-.

[oblique pelican]

Only Noelle and Xinyan(iirc) have shields that scales off of def. All the other shielders use hp%

[modern raven]

i didnt know u had to hold zhongli's skill for a shield

im so dumb

[bleak river]

...

wow

[modern raven]

ive just been making pillars ;-;

i made trial zhongli into burst support TvT

[signal tundra]

Do you get the battle pass and then if so get the serpent spine? That helped me with my crit rate problems lol😭

[modern raven]

imma get it, tomorrow >:D

[signal tundra]

Heck ya!!

[modern raven]

with or without my parents perms

cuz i cant guarantee that they'll say yes but it is my own money

i dont plan on full on wasting it all

[signal tundra]

Oof I first thought you were going to stay you’d steal their money but ya if it’s yours do with it what you want!

[modern raven]

XD

i'd never steal their money, i have asian parents ffs XD

[broken remnant]

Does anyone use sheild setting yanfei?

[sacred prism]

wdym?

[broken remnant]

yanfei can make shield like zhongli?

[cold kelp]

idk if i can improve

Maybe 2 pieces artis if my resin allows a new hunt

[cold kelp]

Not mine

[oblique pelican]

"Tankfei" is the word you're looking for

[urban plaza]

I think @bleak river uses Tankfei

[broken remnant]

oh isee

[oblique pelican]

It's isn't as strong as Zhongli's but yeah, it works

[broken remnant]

thanks

[bleak river]

oh you're the ping

[urban plaza]

Yess

[bleak river]

what qn do you have about tankfei?

[broken remnant]

What artifacts thnkfei use?

[bleak river]

2eosf 2totm for best shield, 4no is an option

[broken remnant]

oh

Can u tell me full name again?

[rustic plank]

Emblem of Severed Fate and Tenacity of Milelith

NO -> Noblesse Oblige

[bleak river]

also, for weapon, prototype amber

[broken remnant]

It's really helpful, thanks

[signal tundra]

I’d go pyro goblet since that’s your off piece anyway - the stats aren’t stellar on it anyway imo

[cold kelp]

I took Atk% cuz a lot of the time i have to resort to the AK-47 strat

[sacred prism]

lmao- yes physical dmg on my aloy gotta be built- ak47 strat

[oblique pelican]

Aloy

[sacred prism]

stfu

[oblique pelican]

Fishcl better

For phys

[cold kelp]

But what if u wanna stand out and b so quirky

[sacred prism]

aloy just works rlly well on my team-

[oblique pelican]

Well then, I suppose you do not have that many characters

[sacred prism]

she’s good yeah- but fischls skill and burst isn’t my playstyle. i have her C0

[oblique pelican]

C0 fish is good as is

[sacred prism]

i’ve got quite a few-

[open shore]

Anyone using Thoma for hu tao here 🤔

[bleak river]

I use him when I run double hydro and have xiangling on the other half

Aterlupus uses Thoma for tao

[open shore]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking, since tankfei now heals too much with hydro resonance lol and xiangling is forever with Childe

His c6 seems like it'd help hu tao too

[oblique pelican]

Didn't Thoma steal vapes?

[bleak river]

When you have xingqiu and yelan
I don't think that's a worry

[open shore]

yeah that's why i want to try him again hahaha since i SHOULD have an excess of hydro application now

and he steals less vapes than xiangling cus he's got icd anyway

[bleak river]

Yelan xq keeps up with xl Tao XD

[open shore]

yeah i imagine it would lol

but i need my xl for childe hahahaha

cus i love him and don't want to bench

[bleak river]

ah

taser childe
XD

[signal tundra]

Ah like a physical amber? If you want to go that route 2pc pale flame and 2pc bloodstained is better . Wanders and Amos bow is BIS for a charged shot build

[open shore]

i'm honestly too lazy to see if I could deal sufficient dmg on echarge childe to clear abyss, when I could just childe-xl through everything and not look back lmfao

[cold kelp]

this i can get behind

[bleak river]

true

what teams does childe have other than (inter)national?

[open shore]

taser basically

lol

otherwise he's mostly just a nuke

[gritty tusk]

C3 Ningguang Triple Geo & C0 Ayato Triple Hydro | Spiral Abyss 2.7 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://youtu.be/iAMZO7QGlvA

[sacred prism]

phys build bow users are great-

[modern raven]

Does 60 crtrt for yelan and xinggiu quite enough? Make me headache to compose the art..

[bleak river]

Holy er on xq
Wtf

[modern raven]

Got 29.8 er feather... And try to put on xq..

[bleak river]

Ye I can see that XD

That's a disgusting(ly good) xq

[urban plaza]

And this is without EoPF

but obviously my CVs are lacking 😂

[bleak river]

Blame the pjc

XD

[open shore]

i haven't touched my xq build since before eosf domain came out dkjhfasdf

[bleak river]

I'm not going back to emblem for a long ass while

Stuck in husk domain

Then maybe back to emblem

[modern raven]

Im still keep doing emblem, and its already almost 6 month..

[bleak river]

I have two sets so far

But xl set is a bit meh

41/144

I'd rather have the cr

[open shore]

xl is the only one with a good eosf set tbh haha

[bleak river]

It's fine with catch, just not great if I'm doing fav

[modern raven]

I have 4 set emblem now..

Xq, yelan, ei, xl

[open shore]

ahhhh the crit rate on xl x.x

[bleak river]

Atk electro
Interesting

[bleak river]

Catch :)

[modern raven]

But still not the best and have room for improvement..

[modern raven]

45+12 around 57

[bleak river]

I kinda want electro gob for raiden
But I know I won't get it

[open shore]

57/165 on my xl somehow, not including catch buff djfhkajsdf

[bleak river]

Currently er atk

[bleak river]

Er?

Oh, my raiden somehow has 0 em
I'm so proud

[open shore]

187 ER

192 EM

[bleak river]

Bit low, unless rational(?)
But you run international?

[open shore]

childe international

so benny gives enough

[bleak river]

Yes, idk if there's any other international XD

[open shore]

only once in a while is her ult not up

and at that point it's prob cus I accidentally used an ult at the end, so no one's ult is up anyway

[bleak river]

Hmm
And meanwhile I'm not that happy with 200.9er

[open shore]

i once had an er sands on her lmfao 240 er is insane

[bleak river]

I only run er sands in sukokomon

My em sands are nonexistent for rational, unfortunately

[modern raven]

Thats make me headache.. 4 char need to use emblem.. If put all the best emblem art on xl, she will be overpowered.. But its wasting..

[open shore]

i ran er cus i had a piece with insane crit stats lol

[bleak river]

My raiden er piece has p good crit

I just...can't show rn XD

Actl...

[open shore]

i actually have no one else on eosf that I use in my abyss rotations hahaha

[modern raven]

I forgot sukokmon.. What char comp is sukokmon?

[bleak river]

Nvm xl has atk sands rn

Fischl kokomi xl sucrose

It classifies as a soup comp I think

[open shore]

soup comp dfjkahksdfa

[bleak river]

Reaction soup

Sigh
If I had c6 fischl, I'd do much more dmg

But alas

[modern raven]

Hmm..talking about soup make me hungry....indomieee.... Indomieee..

[bleak river]

I have to wait for next patch XD

[open shore]

are you c5 rn?

[bleak river]

Yep

[open shore]

nice

soon

[bleak river]

Just gotta wait

[open shore]

c6 gorou when tho D;

[modern raven]

This is i want to..

[bleak river]

Neverr
C0 :|

😭

[open shore]

my itto is begging D;

[bleak river]

Samee

[open shore]

and albedo

[bleak river]

Well actl he's/they're begging for better artifacts
But anyway

I'm talking about mine btw

[open shore]

mine are too dw

[bleak river]

XD

I did a 32k cow

[open shore]

my gorou just on full husk set lmfao

[bleak river]

Without Bennett buff
Was using kokomi instead

[open shore]

i haven't tested my itto in a while

[bleak river]

Only got 2 pieces rn
The rest are filler from albedo

[open shore]

i built albedo first, so my itto is suffering hahaha

[bleak river]

Same tho XD

[open shore]

albedo could be better but he's good enough for now

[bleak river]

For some reason I levelled albedo q
Don't ask

Prob could've gotten his e to 9 by now if I hadn't

[open shore]

Q fun tho

[bleak river]

I had a 50/100 on him before

[open shore]

Nice

[bleak river]

Roughly

And the Def sands is still at +16

Cuz...

[open shore]

the audacity

albedo deserves better

[bleak river]

Itto's stuff rn

Everything but the flower and goblet are stolen borrowed from albedo

[open shore]

my itto is on like... a 7% cdmg goblet adkjhfaksh

I only have three geo goblets

and they are trash

except for the one albedo has hahaha

I dunno how I pulled that on

[bleak river]

His flower is wrong
So that's albedo flower

[open shore]

wish I could get a 20CV pyro or hydro gob tho

djfhakjsdhfa poor albedo

stripped for parts

[bleak river]

Well you've seen itto's flwr before

[open shore]

when will husk stop being a bitch smh

give me geo goblet

like I don't even care if on set goblet doesn't have crit

my current one is shit anyway, but I can change my sands into an insanely useful one

[bleak river]

XD

Opportunity cost(?)

Idk what I'm talking about

[open shore]

I have a bs def sands from albedo before husk domain that's 43CV djfhakjdhfas

let me give it to itto omg

he's currently on a 17cdmg sands lmfao

[bleak river]

Well
You've seen my Def sands

XD

[open shore]

This game is just pain and suffering

[bleak river]

Rng is pain and suffering

This game just has a lot of it

Aka
Enemy behaviour (fucking kenki)
Artifacts have rng on rng on rng
And ofc the gacha
And ig the echoes of the offering proc'ing

[modern raven]

Indeeddd..🥲

[open shore]

Yes

[modern raven]

Geo supremacy that still suffering in farming..🥲

[open shore]

Devs knew what they were doing when they based the whole game off rng lmfao

[bleak river]

That zhongli has decent crit while being shield bot

[open shore]

GEO SUPREEEEEMMMMEEE

[bleak river]

I-

[unkempt oriole]

exactly

thats actually what i wish to achieve

[bleak river]

Fading twilight on gorou...
Interesting

[unkempt oriole]

im kinda close to it

[unkempt oriole]

it does works dont it

[bleak river]

And why is he built for dmg XD

[unkempt oriole]

burst support maybe

[modern raven]

Milelith only farm around one weeks.. So that only milelith zhongli can get..

[bleak river]

He does kuki dmg

[unkempt oriole]

true

[bleak river]

Just makes kuki very sad tbh XD

[open shore]

Lol my gorou on 4husk with 55/110 crit lmfao

[bleak river]

My gorou...is forced 4exile

With some 3* ones

[open shore]

Without even a crit hat

Oh gorou abuse

[bleak river]

Nah

Not furry abuse

He's just not good for much tbh

[open shore]

Fair

[bleak river]

Yea pls help me collect my crystallise shields
Thanks

[modern raven]

Yeah..want build gorou for burst supp..using 4 nob

[open shore]

My boy has what he has because husk dropped def everything except sands

[unkempt oriole]

nice

[open shore]

And I have shit luck on noblesse so

He's doing slightly more dmg instead lmfao

[bleak river]

Doesn't do that much for itto, but ig zhongli and albedo benefit

[modern raven]

Want c4 gorou so can have little heal during abyss..

[bleak river]

I have shit luck on noblesse
And I need...4 sets

[unkempt oriole]

same bruh same

[bleak river]

Me without zhongli:

[open shore]

Then I could use a sub DPS for flex spot instead of diona lol

[unkempt oriole]

diona in geo team kinda yikes

[bleak river]

Shenhe and diona (in separate teams), bennett, xingqiu (funerational/hydrational)

Phrased it better XD

[open shore]

That's why I need c4 gorou lmfao

[unkempt oriole]

true

dont we all

reminds me that jh is c-1 gorou

[bleak river]

We need c6 gorou, that's what we really need

[open shore]

Sixty wishes and not a single gorou wtf

[modern raven]

I so confuse about comp term...

[bleak river]

Funerational
Xingqiu yelan xiangling tao
Hydrational
Replace Tao with bennett

[open shore]

Inazuma event with free character pick when

[unkempt oriole]

its alright sometimes its self made

[unkempt oriole]

I KNOW

WHEN

IT HAS BEEN

FUCKING

LIYUE

PICKS

WHEN

IS

[bleak river]

Funerational is community made
Hydrational is what I assume it's called

[unkempt oriole]

INAZUMA

PICK

[open shore]

We had one inazuma festival and got a liyue character wtf

Let me pick a gorou

[unkempt oriole]

EXACTLY

[bleak river]

Yes omg
Gorou needs his consts

[unkempt oriole]

but tbf they did let xq into the plot

so

[bleak river]

Cuz every other inazuma 4* is ass

[open shore]

I mean xq is valuable af so it's fine

But

Seriously

A while year of ina

And no Ina event with free Ina 4*

[unkempt oriole]

lmao the kuki wanters would be mad if they can read

[bleak river]

I think that might have been my c6 xq ngl

You mean if they existed? /hj

[unkempt oriole]

i think they do tho /jk

[bleak river]

Well ofc, it's waifu XD

They'll just...not do abyss

[open shore]

Yeah Ina 4* are shitty on their own, but they are niche characters that SOMEONE needs

[bleak river]

Sayu is shit other than exploration

[unkempt oriole]

remind me what do we have for inazuma 4*?

[bleak river]

Thoma...if you don't have zhongli/tankfei overheals

[open shore]

How dare you my sleepy daughter is perfect lmfao

[bleak river]

Sara is only for electro, so she's fine tbh

Oh yea
I also need Sara consts

Sitting on c2 :/

[open shore]

I mean, when lantern rite gave out characters, I didn't need a single one so

Getting an ina con instead would've been better 😂

[bleak river]

I needed all of them
Except xinyan and cy, we don't talk about them that much

[unkempt oriole]

sayu kinda op with kaeya, xiangling and kuki rn

ROLLING THUNDER /jk

[bleak river]

I'd rather just run sukokomon

XD

Who was in kuki's slot before?

[unkempt oriole]

i think it was barbruh

[bleak river]

Oh rip

[unkempt oriole]

but its kinda meh

so overload and superconduct lesgo

[bleak river]

And melt

You can't forget melt

[unkempt oriole]

true dat

[bleak river]

But I'd rather have overvape with swirls

:)

[open shore]

Sayu may not be meta but she's FUN AF

[unkempt oriole]

im dying jh, my lvl60 diluc is actually doing 10k vape HAHAHA

not even invested

[bleak river]

I use her to reduce my clear times for domains
That's it

[bleak river]

I assume you chucked random Artis?

[unkempt oriole]

still waiting for a madman to clear f12 with sayu comp

[unkempt oriole]

yeas

but i do have a 2cw set

[bleak river]

I sure as hell won't be the one

Only xiangling is raised out of those

The rest are lvl 20
And kaeya is 21

[open shore]

PLS

[unkempt oriole]

IKR

well im building kaeya when im done with diluc

[bleak river]

You should do it since you wanna see it so bad

[unkempt oriole]

might just try the meme clear team

[bleak river]

XD

[unkempt oriole]

HAHAHA

[bleak river]

And I thought sukokomon was the meme team

[open shore]

My kaeya is kinda cope but I wonder if I could clear with sayu 🤔

My Kuki lvl 20 tho 🤡

Maybe fish instead

[signal tundra]

Could I get some validation that my Yelan is ok? I’m trying to get a better sands and or feather but as a main dps she’s doing pretty well 😭 I asked some people I know abt what I could improve and I got roasted so just looking for some w’s

[open shore]

If she works, she works!

She is ok! 👌👌

Everyone can always use better artifacts in general, but this is not bad

She's not designed for on field time, but she's plenty fine

[signal tundra]

Thank you😭❤️ it does mean a lot hahah

Also in general I love your contribution to this community @open shore , you are always super helpful and polite and I appreciate you

[open shore]

😭😭😭😭 you're too nice

[rich pier]

Which build?

ER vs CV

[open shore]

If you have a battery with her, then the CV one of course

[rich pier]

I have shenhe with her most of the time

[open shore]

I actually have no idea what shenhe's capabilities on being a battery are lol but if you can get her ult up in time, then it's satisfactory, if not, then go for the option with more er 🤷

[eternal orbit]

my freeze ayaka

still need some farming for sand/goblet/circlet T_T

[modern raven]

Need add ER also i think..

[humble pecan]

^

[bleak river]

Kqm suggests 146(?) er when shenhe with fav

[open shore]

Lol why so precisely 146 😂

[bleak river]

okay
140, i misremembered

[bleak river]

i have 146, 174, -, 177

[idle granite]

lol for Shenhe it looks like she needs 175% crit rate on the bottom text

instead of ER

[bleak river]

not sure how you're reading that to get that, but sure

[elfin flume]

her hp help to cover her lack on cdm

maybe just raise it a bit to 33-35k then everything is fine

[rich pier]

Interesting, I could shift some pieces from my xiao to test with more ER, but he definitely needs ER more than Ayaka

[bleak river]

definitely

[signal tundra]

When I use a rainbow team her hp goes up to 34320 :) but yes I’m still also trying to get more hp% artifacts

[bleak bluff]

what one is better? with the first one, my atk is okay but without it it goes down to 1.2k

[river ore]

@bleak bluff has leveled up to LEVEL 2

[rustic plank]

Preferred left one unless you really need those er

[bleak bluff]

thanks :)

[modern raven]

Any tips , still trying to get a geo cup

[modern raven]

1000 not more not less..

[bleak river]

Prob has some decimals

[modern raven]

Geo cup and more crtdmg..

[rich pier]

Level the weapon up

[sacred prism]

build pls- i need a good sucrose build 😭😭

[visual osprey]

4vv

stack em

thasit

thers really no other build

sucrose does hav som options for weapons tho

ttds is always good if u hav another main dps that u swap to after swirling their element with sucrose
if sucrose is the onfield driver sac is a good option, giving a lot of em and another use of grouping skill
for some teams like sucrose taser that doesnt hav a dedicated healer and u find urself dying, prototype amber is an alternativ that gives team healing

[sacred prism]

thank you

[bleak river]

Tasecrose now has the option of kuki shinobu

[humble hollow]

first of all, level your whiteblind to 90 and then ascend your itto. for talents just level your normal attack talent to 9, your skill and burst can be left as is. and why are you running 5 husk? is it because you didnt have any relevant offset goblet?

but overall your itto is fine, still have a lot of room for improvement though

heres my itto for reference, i know er is on the low end but my team run multiple fav so i can still get my burst up fast for the next rotation

[bleak river]

your goblet...

how long have you farmed husk?

[humble hollow]

a month or two

[modern raven]

xq and xl both use 4pc emblem right?

[bleak river]

Bis, ye

[modern raven]

i have xiangling with 2pc emblem and 2pc crimson ;-;

[sacred prism]

why does xl use emblem?

[modern raven]

her burst is rlly powerful

[sacred prism]

clearly idk the emblem effects

oh 4pc is burst dmg % scale of er

lmao

[green mango]

How? 3 pieces of EM is 550, with weapon maybe can 750, where another 250?

Oh another 2 artifact can add 100-150 more.

[green mango]

And with The Catch ER the number goes higher

[modern raven]

she has 215% er i think .-.

[sacred prism]

xl?

[modern raven]

yep

she mostly does 5k with her burst doe

[sacred prism]

that’s sad compared to others then? but she’s still good ig

[modern raven]

mm i havent invested in xiangling too much

imma farm emblem before husk since i can build 3 characters ;-;

xiangling, mona and xingqiu

[sacred prism]

haha- fair

[modern raven]

building supports 👍

[sacred prism]

yeasss

im building benny rn

4pc noblesse for burst support

[green mango]

I hope Yoimiya banner got Benny, i really want him

My noblesse can be used for Shenhe or Benny

[sacred prism]

benny is so good

one of the best 4*

imo

[modern raven]

yoimiya technically doesnt need to aim right ;-;?

[green mango]

I like that he can do 2 job at once, so I dont have to waste two slots for healing and damage buff

[river ore]

@green mango has leveled up to LEVEL 1

[modern raven]

i have benny c2

[green mango]

Focus normal attack iirc

[green mango]

Most used in abyss

[modern raven]

man i wanna get yoimiya

[sacred prism]

yeah exactly - it’s so useful and easy to build

[sacred prism]

i have C3

[sacred prism]

yeah- he’s good everywhere though

[green mango]

Many player hate her but i just dont get why, my relative used her to beat abyss 12 9*

I have "C -1 Benny" 😭

[modern raven]

sheesh

[green mango]

Im worrried xinyan appear on kzh banner

She really need some change on her skill

[modern raven]

aww man no benny in shop

[green mango]

November or september

[modern raven]

its november

[green mango]

And now I have to decide, wait for bennet or spend starglitter on Blackcliff 🥲

[sacred prism]

no benny? 💀

that’s pain

[green mango]

Yes 😂😂

[sacred prism]

absolute pain

[green mango]

Benny C minus 1 aka no benny

[sacred prism]

im sad that i have c1 chongyun, but no ningguang like 😭 why-

[oblique pelican]

Widsith em buff

[green mango]

I see, so by default its not 1000

[green mango]

Hopefully ningguang on kzh banner or yoimiya. I want her too. Good for swap and burst

[sacred prism]

yeah - the 4* that i don’t have- i want- it’s painful when they keep putting chongyun and stuff on banners 😭

[oblique pelican]

5 more wishes tomorrow

https://tenor.com/view/paimonprimo-gif-20428902

[green mango]

10*

[sacred prism]

[gritty tusk]

C2 Mona International & C0 Diluc Overvape | Spiral Abyss 2.7 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://youtu.be/_y3w0xT0q2w

[sacred prism]

this is the lvl of quick info i need- no time to be reading books on how to build someone

[green mango]

Meanwhile I use Genshin Calculator to see which artifact is the best 😂 yeah ik it's so much work lol
But my Ayaka rn is better with ATK%/ATK%/ATK%

[bleak river]

I...

Wow

[tender agate]

which is better?

[bleak river]

...why is that even a question

It is as clear as day

[tender agate]

[oblique pelican]

Yes, the first one is the clear winner

[open shore]

I want that goblet on the right, you can keep the one on the left 😂

[bleak river]

Ye same

[modern raven]

JH that question is method for humble flexin...

[bleak river]

Humble...sure

XD

Idk about the humility of it

[rich pier]

Which one should I run

[bleak river]

genshin optimizer

[humble pecan]

Imo first one since it has higher er and higher base atk

[bleak river]

well, yea that

XD

[modern raven]

Skyward blade + pyro goblet of course

[sacred prism]

second one imo. but it depends what you use him for :p

[humble pecan]

1st for buffer
2nd for support

[rich pier]

First is better for Max ATK buff and second one is better for bennets own DMG, but what's better for overall team output?

[sacred prism]

what is he in your team, and who do you run him with usually?

[rich pier]

I mostly do use him as a buffer but him doing 70k vape DMG when he bursts with the pyro goblet is also kinda nice

Mostly Raiden national if I'm lazy to get full stars in abyss

[sacred prism]

no probably 1st better then-

1st but give him pyro goblet?

[rich pier]

That's actually quite a good idea, I'll have to check if his heals can still keep up but if it's still above 4k per tick I'll run that combination,thanks

Nice, found a goblet that has mostly useful subs for Bennet and his heals still tick for 4,2k

[sacred prism]

great!!

[sacred prism]

haha thanks ✨ good luck

[ebon ginkgo]

i rebuilt my Beidou

this is using gravestone atm

[rich pier]

4 eosf?

[ebon ginkgo]

no unfortunately, i hate that domain

this is 2 thundering fury 2 glad

if i was using eosf id have a lot more er

[rich pier]

I see, still nice ER

[ebon ginkgo]

all that er is from subs lol

im running atk sands

razor
jean
keqing
tartaglia
sara
aloy
chongyun
fischl
lisa
barbara
xinyan
amber
mona

those are the only characters without their own builds rn

everyone else that i have has their own build

i need to level up more gravestones

[oblique pelican]

[urban plaza]

why is diluc not using his signature

[rich pier]

Did you get scammed on first homa banner or how do you have 3 WGS

[ebon ginkgo]

wgs on first homa banner, then wgs on standard banner, then wgs as off-banner on the homa rerun banner

[crystal heath]

https://tenor.com/view/nichijou-hahaha-laughing-laugh-hard-gif-8932912

ur name

XD

[modern raven]

tiny hands

[modern raven]

Building kujou sara cuz shes C5 almost C6

I can do Yae Miko, Sara, Bennett, Venti as a team comp i think

[pastel sand]

my builds for hu tao and yelan

[mossy barn]

Which one should I use for heizou

[wise oak]

Is the artifact set fine for zhongli

[modern raven]

i'd say it is

[mossy barn]

Yanfei build good or bad

[humble pecan]

Could use more crit rate imo but other than that it looks good

[open shore]

Jfc 480 em, widsith is so cracked

[bleak river]

lmao why isit the em buff XD

[rich pier]

Cause RNGesus said so

[modern raven]

we got the same goblet, I was thinking abt changing it, but if it works it works

[wise oak]

i was thinking more about double atk yk?

cuz i didnt wanna waste the hp sands

[modern raven]

u can go for it

[digital pilot]

Dps dongli, nice

Mine's with No/glad

[wise oak]

i was trying for burst but that sands was pretty good not to use and i kinda just switched around my whole build

[wise oak]

Aaa i wanted to do that

noblesse and the geo bonus

[digital pilot]

He's like this

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/851683981274906644/896326904175529995/Screenshot_20211009_172238.png

[wise oak]

wtf 😭 holy shit

[digital pilot]

I always use him with Rosaria so no issues when critting

[wise oak]

ohh that makes sense

[digital pilot]

With homa btw

[wise oak]

HOMA

GET OUT

[digital pilot]

Hp/geo/hp

[wise oak]

CMAKFKKD

[digital pilot]

Hu Tao still waiting for her turn to be used

Since

1.3

[wise oak]

anaoxos im planning on getting homa

probably to use on zhongli or xiao my hutao can wait

[digital pilot]

My Hu Tao still at lvl 70

But she's my record breaker

Wity only 2p no

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/820666067096961054/990674022142455928/b1843638-b2c7-4b45-b733-b697bd8612c4.png

[modest fern]

hey i need help with builds

so i made venti my main dps thinking of making xian qiu my support buffer

im think mabye chungyun as 2ed dps?

[bleak river]

first of all

xingqiu*
chongyun*

second of all...why not

[modest fern]

wym why not?

[bleak river]

tho xingqiu isnt gonna be buffing you

he's a sub dps (or main if you rly want him to be)

[modest fern]

xianqiu can be a great support with his water swords and allowing me to elemental burst every few seconds

[sacred prism]

so that’d make him a sub dps

[bleak river]

you...cant burst every few seconds (on one char)...idk what you on

[modest fern]

his e activates very quickly now tho

[modest fern]

ah

isent a sub dps like a secondary dps?

[bleak river]

E is not a burst.

sub dps is more like an off-field dps

[modest fern]

ok

:/

[oblique pelican]

They must be referring to the swords hitting every second

[bleak river]

Maybe

[modest fern]

i wanma use xianqui mostly to use e and make them wet to boost damage on others

[bleak river]

Well ye
That's how he's used

:P

[modest fern]

oki

im not sure how to build chunyun tho

also

how do you fet the cool looking cards for builds

[bleak river]

enka.shinshin.moe if you're talking about showing off your own builds

[modest fern]

thanks

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/990840259354972170/992375439995703296/unknown.png

me venti

[bleak river]

DPS/crit venti indeed

Tho not a great one

[modest fern]

im at ar 35

this is as far i can upgrade him rn

iv been stuck at ar 35 for 3 months

[bleak river]

You just need to do the Ascension quest

[modest fern]

i cant

thats why i said im stuck therfe

i wouldent of been stuck on it for 3 months if i could

:c

id be rank 45 if i could rank up

[bleak river]

Why are you stuck tho?

[modest fern]

damage too low

i take too much damage

havent been able to get past the first room for all that time untill the most recent try

witch got me to the 2ed room

[bleak river]

I don't rmb the rooms anymore

[modest fern]

they hard

[sacred prism]

whose your team for the ascension quest?

i recently did it, went from ar35 straight to ar45. cause i had 101K exp haha

[modest fern]

venti. xianqui. tracvler and soon once i can il replace kaya with chunyun

[sacred prism]

which traveler? anemo geo or electro?

[modest fern]

i cant get electro

[sacred prism]

why?

[modest fern]

cant get to inizuma

[sacred prism]

no inazuma? ouch

[modest fern]

quest is locked untill i get higher

i used anemo before

but now with venti

i switched

[sacred prism]

i did inazuma at ar 31 or smth

so it won’t be that that’s locking you out

[modest fern]

i havr 45820xp out of 7475

[river ore]

@modest fern has leveled up to LEVEL 2

[sacred prism]

i had 101K out of 7475

[modest fern]

lol

nice

[sacred prism]

you’ll go to about ar40 probably

perhaps just under

[modest fern]

level 40

[sacred prism]

yeah

[modest fern]

but still

iv been stuck for whilr

[sacred prism]

chongyun isn’t a dps, so i wouldn’t

[modest fern]

i cant do the casum quest yet

[bleak river]

He can be

[modest fern]

big frist damge

[sacred prism]

it’s not recommended tho

[modest fern]

water

• frost

[sacred prism]

he’s a support for freeze teams or other cryo users like kaeya etc

[modest fern]

=boom

[bleak river]

You're gonna shatter if you do chongyun freeze

[modest fern]

also

i plan to get travler to electro when i can

for more water ans electro conbos

and such

[oblique pelican]

You can play Xingqiu+chongyun. Xingqiu being the main dps

Permafreeze

[modest fern]

venti is my dps tho

i pew and e ans q and boom

pew

instant q refill

[sacred prism]

xq with cryo dmg goblet? otherwise they won’t be using chongyun to full potential

[oblique pelican]

Chongyun is just for the Cryo infusion. Xingqiu's rainswords will be lacking on dps if he's on a Cryo cup

[modest fern]

pew ice

[gritty tusk]

Kazuha Rerun 2.8 Special! C0 Kazuha DPS and National Team | Spiral Abyss Floor 12 - 9⭐All Chambers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbAoLMhW6m4

[sacred prism]

exactly which is why chongyun is best used with another cryo user. otherwise his abilities aren’t used fully

[pastel sand]

i would be able to use both teams if i didnt accidentally c6 bennet

[modest fern]

accedently?

[pastel sand]

yea

[modest fern]

c6 Bennetts is pog

[sacred prism]

it’s nice for sure, he can ruin certain teams though. idk if i’d ever c6 him..

[modest fern]

ohh

[bleak river]

hmm

[eternal orbit]

if he have fav weapon i would go with more def and maybe crit too

tooo much er is not gonna help a lot

especially if ur going with 3 geo characters to maximise his buffs

[bleak river]

mhmm

running exile

apparently he needs 180+?

[eternal orbit]

i'm not sure how much exactly but 180 sounds legit for me

i would like him to be more of a support like noblesse some def some crit

to be more useful

this is my gorou (still one of the lowest character invest i have right now cause i just gave him some random artifacts i have)

so he can be much better (and he have a geo goblet here) i still don't know if geo goblet or def is better

[open shore]

My boy is 173 and runs fine with albedo and itto tbh

[bleak river]

how long is itto team rotation?

i need that for er calcs

gorou burst cd is 20s, itto is 18s

so prob 20s?

[open shore]

Something like that

[bleak river]

what's the rotation?

gorou e q, albedo e, itto combo?

and the flex goes somewhere in there

[open shore]

Usually I gorou e albedo EQ itto e gorou q itto q

[bleak river]

sounds like you funnel into gorou

[open shore]

My flex has been diona usually, thinking about who else to put, but I usually do her shield first

[open shore]

Eh not really, I just set up albedo on e only so that q can last longer on itto

[bleak river]

makes sense

[open shore]

It's not on purpose if gorou is getting funneled lol

[bleak river]

sadly i dont have two fav bows...

[open shore]

Sac on diona?

[bleak river]

no sac

[open shore]

Oh oof

Xiangling and fish prob work if your crystalise shields are reliable

[modern raven]

i dont have albedo ;-;

i have 8/9 stars on floor 9 and 10 XD

[bleak river]

im thinking either fish or fish

bird lasts 10s, while jellyfish lasts 12

[open shore]

Fish can also help battery gorou even if not geo

[fleet knot]

randomly reminded me of jellyfish sandwich

[bleak river]

or everyone rly

[fleet knot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iubJ-XSL9go

a classic

[bleak river]

interesting

anyway

[modern raven]

enka site wont load pictures TvT

look i got electro yaksha

[bleak river]

oz doesnt last that long (before c6)
actl i should just add c6 in, since i wont be using itto until next patch at the earliest

[open shore]

Oh also I should clarify that I have itto c1 so I dunno if you need to slightly adjust to get in some itto normals before bursting

[bleak river]

i will

N2 before

[open shore]

Ye

[bleak river]

so oz for energy, and jellyfish for heals

[open shore]

And that's also why I throw ushi before gorou q too so when itto bursts, he gets the ushi stack

[modern raven]

electro yaksha build

man. enka lagging

[open shore]

Wish electro yaksha playable 🥲

[bleak river]

emblem xiao XD

[bleak river]

well there's that, but you're also supposed to end itto unga bunga with an ushi

[modern raven]

4pc emblem is okay for kujou sara right?

[bleak river]

mhmm

[modern raven]

my current build

[modern raven]

hydro yaksha better, shes so pretty 😔

[bleak river]

im looking at this for er needs atm

[open shore]

I basically just throw ushi whenever I can tbh

It's just fun

[modern raven]

is this good ;-;?

i might get blackcliff bow for her

[bleak river]

and this for (jelly)fish

[open shore]

Bruh that's hardcore

I gauge my er needs by gut feeling

Lolol

[bleak river]

we dont look at kokomi's er needs

she just needs to place down the jellyfish

[bleak river]

eh sac or fav would be much better

[open shore]

What do you want to use her for?

[modern raven]

support

for yae ;-;

[open shore]

I mean if you're not dpsing her, ult is useless, no?

[bleak river]

guess ill be doing based off what er itto ends up with

[bleak river]

well, to refresh jellyfish

which is simply impossible in this team

[open shore]

Then yeah JH saying sac and fav works. Else whatever higher base atk weapon you have

[modern raven]

Ahh so is fading twilight good aswell?

[open shore]

Only for the secondary, the passive is pretty useless on her sadly

[bleak river]

rotation will prob be

gorou e
albedo e
gorou q
koko e
itto N2 q e n4c n4c e

[open shore]

Oh and it's got good base atk iirc so yeah, prob if you don't have other ppl who can use it better

[modern raven]

ah so definitely fav bow

cuz sac is on sucrose

and i have r6 sac frags

i wanna cry.

[open shore]

Good enuf. Try it to see if it works

[bleak river]

wait why did frags come into the convo

its bow XD

[open shore]

Lol yeah we meant sac bow

[bleak river]

prob gonna ttods

not like i can fav koko lmao

[modern raven]

i keep getting it ;-; im trying to get sac sword for xq

[open shore]

😔

Sac frag on suc is op tho

[bleak river]

fr

[open shore]

Esp c1 suc

[modern raven]

i have C4

[bleak river]

ey same

[modern raven]

I have C4 Xq and Suc, and C5 Sara

imma start building emblem users while im farming shim

[bleak river]

with gorou funneling to itto

[modern raven]

i only have itto and C1 gorou

._.

idk what team i should slap itto in

[bleak river]

i have itto and c0 gorou
-_-

[modern raven]

albedoless?

[bleak river]

i have albedo
you just didnt say you lacked him XD

[modern raven]

i lack zhongli and albedo

[bleak river]

i also lack zhongli

more for a lack of need

[eternal orbit]

this is my gorou right now

[bleak river]

gorou doesnt do dmg...

[eternal orbit]

says who? xD

[bleak river]

but sure

says me XD

[open shore]

Lol mine is 4pc husk 😂

[bleak river]

so...
i was using an outdated er calc

fun

[eternal orbit]

mine just like this does 6k5/9k dmg with his e xD

[bleak river]

what er? XD

[eternal orbit]

i would like too but my good husks are already on noelle and yun jin

[open shore]

Def husks are easy unless it's sands 😂

[open shore]

I have no idea what this table is tbh haha

[bleak river]

all you need to see is the number in the blue box XD

[open shore]

Is that what er you have or what you need???

[bleak river]

need

literally says on the left:
"Total energy recharge needed"

XD

[open shore]

Look I have the brain capacity of a rock

[bleak river]

it shows, mr itto main

[bleak river]

and yet you post it here

[unkempt oriole]

Now then if I actually have an anemo dps in sucrose place

[unkempt oriole]

Yea 😂

Just got tired of long screenshot

[bleak river]

ez

[open shore]

I would love to be an itto main if husk set would stop being a little bitch

[sacred prism]

looks at that all 5 team how’s it feel to be living my dream? 💀💀

[bleak river]

it feels great

kazu and koko came accidentally

:P

[unkempt oriole]

It's funny how my first team had no whatsoever synergy 😂

Besides zhongli albedo

[open shore]

DPS sucrose

[unkempt oriole]

Your 2nd team is the legendary yellow background team btw @bleak river

😂 😂

[bleak river]

it is
and it's a team that is actl good tgt and isnt stack dps

[modern raven]

Try using only puprle char?

Lag 1 : noelle, gorou, rosaria, bennet
Lag 2 : diona, xinqqiu, fiscl, xiangling

[open shore]

Weird you wouldn't mention tasecrose 🤔

[modern raven]

Itto damage showcase, he has quite low crit rate

Anyone know how to increase damage

[open shore]

Why didn't you use gorou tho lol

Wait nvm I'm blind

Full husk is his bis

[modern raven]

I’ve been trying to farm for husk but I have such bad artifacts that I have to run glad set ass well

[open shore]

Ah gotcha

[river ore]

@open shore has leveled up to LEVEL 17

[open shore]

Fullset will help increase dmg

You would prob also benefit for a crit rate circ instead 🤔

[modern raven]

Is it just by artifacts that people can do 100k per slash or is it something else

[open shore]

Lol I mean, check the ppl who are doing that much?

Level your talents if not already done

[modern raven]

Ahh, okay

[open shore]

And ascend him

[modern raven]

The only problem is that I’m low on mora

[open shore]

He scales on def so levelling him is more worth it than characters than scale only on atk

[open shore]

Eternal problem of everyone lol

Ley lines

[grand kestrel]

what is this 'mora' you speak of? XD

[open shore]

Actually you might be able to keep you crit dmg hat, didn't realise you hadn't ascended. Keep farming husk and hope for some crit rate

Maybe the last roll on that hat will go to crit rate 👌

I am fascinated by that hat tho like that's four rolls but why are all the stats so low 🥲

Wait jfc nvm I am so blind it's a four star help I'm so sorry haha

A five star hat will also increase you dmg 🤡

[glass violet]

Maybe try using BennetQ>MonaQ>GorouEQ bcs Gorous Q is short and also instead of going right to Ittos Q u should swap him and then use burst bcs Itto won't catch the dmg bonus from Gorou

[sacred prism]

is the bell good for beidou?

[unkempt oriole]

mona is like 2.5sec isnt it

doin gorou eq wont make it

[glass violet]

Oh i see

[ocean ember]

It's not really good for anyone rn

[unkempt oriole]

niche

bell is extremely niche

[glass violet]

I dont have Mona so I didnt know

[unkempt oriole]

it works on beidou but still a bad idea

[ocean ember]

Sac Greatsword, Fav, Proto, Serpent Spine, are all better alternatives

[unkempt oriole]

yes ^

but the bell works for newer player of course

but as soon as u get something

[ocean ember]

And Mona usually would have TToDS (not that great of a buff to Itto but still), so you always want to do Mona into main DPS

[unkempt oriole]

throw that mf away

[sacred prism]

i have her c1 tho so her shield off HP- so not good idea?

[unkempt oriole]

its still a bad idea

her shield uptime is pretty okay honestly, u don't even need to stack hp

[sacred prism]

i usually run her with rainslasher

[unkempt oriole]

rainslasher can be given to reaction dps

ike diluc

[sacred prism]

i’ve got 4pc thundersoother on her

i want an overload beidou

[unkempt oriole]

that works too

[sacred prism]

4pc thundering fury*

[sacred prism]

i’ve got sac great sword, and fav greatsword-

[unkempt oriole]

sac sounds good

[modern raven]

This is how to increase dmg on itto..

[unkempt oriole]

get him redthorn u mean xD

[modern raven]

Yeah...🤤

I have sum good crit dmg rolls

[bleak river]

Sucrose national...and what?
Yanfei OL?

[modern raven]

This noelle can handle abyss 12 or not?

I hope that itto's feather rolls with crit dmg 😭

[modern raven]

So, wanted to try EM on Ei for soon, overloaded Klee

because i thought she'd be the one, most of the time, triggering it because of her coordinated attack

[bleak river]

Since Klee has a lot of pyro?
Makes sense ig

[modern raven]

yes, goblet + 20% more from ascension i think

+lost prayer

[bleak river]

Fischl would be better(?) since she applies more electro

Hence will OL more

[modern raven]

mmmm i guess i'll build fischl too then

well, i put Ei on every team ever that i run so i though i might because she's already built

6/9/8 iirc

[crisp bronze]

Hi all, I′m planning to build yanfei as dps, are yelan sucrose and beidou good for her team? Or should I replace someone?

[modern raven]

maybe replace beidou with a healer

you always need one

[crisp bronze]

I see. Any recommendation between barbara or diona?

[modern raven]

mmmm you could use Diona

shield + healing + cryo application from her burst

barb is good also, only not against cryo enemies

[bleak river]

Very tiny cryo appl

[ocean ember]

Not true really, you don't always need a healer

[bleak river]

Beidou needs a battery tho

[modern raven]

well yeah, food exists

[bleak river]

Just dodge

[ocean ember]

If you're comfortable without a healer, specially if you have Beidou's shield con, it's a decent team, but you may have to tank a bit Beidou's damage for ER

[modern raven]

but some supports can bring something good to the team

[ocean ember]

Or dodging as well xD

[bleak river]

Don't need a healer if you don't take dmg

[ocean ember]

Exactly, haha

[modern raven]

if you're going for Yanfei as DPS, try benny if you have him

or XQ(?)

that's like my hesitation when recommending teams (only if you have x character)

[bleak river]

Yelan has enough hydro appl for yanfei

[ocean ember]

Yeah, Yelan is fine as sole hydro

[bleak river]

You need like 210+ er iirc

[ocean ember]

I run her on a similar team (Jean, Yanfei, Yae, Yelan) with 194 ER and she does fine

Obvs with Fav bow though

[bleak river]

That's a triple Y team XD

[ocean ember]

Yep lmao

[crisp bronze]

I see thanks all for the suggestions! Gonna try em all

[modern raven]

Yean Yanfei Yae Yelan

[humble pecan]

Yunjin Yanfei Yae Yelan

[bleak river]

A team that's all over the place

Yoimiya instead of yanfei would make more sense

[modern raven]

facts

Y supremacy

[modern raven]

Which is better Engulfing, Skyward Spear or R1 The Catch? Im trying to aim for better weapons for xiangling

[bleak river]

Catch is about the same as engulfing for XL iirc

But uhh
R5 your catch

[gilded dock]

seriously

R5 it

[unkempt oriole]

skyward is comparable to the catch

[gilded dock]

next joke please

Homa =~ EL =~ The Catch R5

PJWS =~ Skyward Spine =~ Dalamity Queller =~ Deathmatch

any other polearm

R5 Wavebreaker's Fin has potential to outdo Homa

[bleak river]

Aka, depending on the team

[modern raven]

Okii

[unkempt oriole]

in what terms are we comparing here

[bleak river]

For xiangling, prob dmg

[unkempt oriole]

the catch 510 atk, considering 32%burst dmg passive, expected atk 510*1.32= 673.2
skyward 674 atk, no burst dmg passive

the only down side of skyward was lower ER and arguably crit

its not as terrible as imagined

its also exactly why many people tested and argued if skyward or the catch is better on raiden

[bleak river]

Wait what, you might wanna change the wording a bit there

[bleak river]

But we're talking about xl XD

[unkempt oriole]

which part

[unkempt oriole]

true, but when it comes to comparing both weapons

most people dont argue what to put on xiangling

she could change builds to fit the weapon

[modern raven]

Imma R5 The Catch soon

[unkempt oriole]

good choice

[modern raven]

She did 8k with only lvl 5 burst XD

She did 22k when i made it lvl 10

Sheesh

I have budget Ayaka, budget Yoimiya, budget Klee, and budget Hutao

[gilded dock]

you forget xiangling and bennett are married, meaning base atk doesn't have that big of a difference

like 12-14% maybe, which is below what catch passive brings

[unkempt oriole]

ik u are comparing base atk, in terms of before and after buff its easier for skyward to get diminishing return

[gilded dock]

well, any rating outside bennett + hydro aura is kinda irrelevant anyway

[bleak river]

Burst dmg, not cd XD

[unkempt oriole]

changed

[unkempt oriole]

so any stats above the average would be great

[open shore]

Omg what's the site for this??

[gilded dock]

it was made by someone in the enka discord

[visual osprey]

catch is just too good

for me its better than all of the 5 star spears

only r5 fin is slightly better but i not hav

[vagrant moth]

Wavebreaker is great what are people on about

[gritty tusk]

Mono Electro Waifus & Tall Husbandos Gang | Spiral Abyss 2.7 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://youtu.be/ok6ohnO5ZNQ

[sacred prism]

tall husbando gang pls- i want them all- i have none 💀

not even thoma

[grand kestrel]

well, maybe you'll get them thoma row.

[urban plaza]

omg

I have 3/4 from above

Fourth Kaeya?

[grand kestrel]

no Kaeya allowed.

[bleak bluff]

should i buy blackcliff for klee or is the widstith fine?

[rustic plank]

better just wait for the upcoming patch, if they give out dodoco tales again in the event, then better use that imo

both of those weapon passive isn't as good for on-field dps (blackcliff is good, but the condition is pretty hard to achieve unless you fight smaller mobs which makes it not really great)

[ocean ember]

Next patch we get a free char, not a free weapon

Unless you mean Dodoco in 3.0 which I highly doubt

[rustic plank]

well it's GAA rerun right? they might have dodoco tales in event shop again just like the seelie rerun

[gilded dock]

I wouldn't really pull for klee rn, just saying. unless you REALLY really adore her

[ocean ember]

No, highly unlikely. So far it's always been free weapon, free char, free weapon, free char and so on. This patch we got a weapon, and it's confirmed afaik that we get a free Fischl next patch.

[rustic plank]

highly unlikely doesn't mean it's impossible, that's why I recommend to wait
blackcliff will come back every 2 months unless they added/swap the weapon, though that one is more likely to have an announcement beforehand

[idle granite]

only update that had 2 new weapons was 2.1 with the Tuna Claymore and Catch