🔨・build-discussion

[open shore]

She can use every single stat

[bleak river]

Atk not so much, but at least not def

[open shore]

Her autos still scale with ATK so it's better than nothing hahaha esp def 😔

[bleak river]

Well ye she's an atk scaling char that converts hp into atk

[limpid urchin]

I wished the last roll would go into crit rate, alas it went into attack but its not that bad, right?

[bleak river]

It's the worst thing to roll into for that arti, but it isn't a dead stat by any means

[open shore]

^

[sonic cedar]

depends on elements

assuming as dps anemo

vv

[wise oak]

lmfao i could get xiao c

2

since the banner is stil here for another 3 hours

[sacred prism]

i got xiao yesterday- now i’m staring at itto and there’s no way i’m wishing

[wise oak]

lmao

2

hours

left

[grand kestrel]

yeah I've given up on C1 Yelan.

[wise oak]

if i get a good artifact rn then ill get c2 xiao

[grand kestrel]

like, literally right now.

[wise oak]

yea

i have a few hours left

look at all these shitty artifacts 😭

[grand kestrel]

you remember they take down the banner for a bit before they bring up the new one, right?

[wise oak]

yea

but they wont do it

rn since itd 2 hours and 4 minutes

[grand kestrel]

oh they will, probably in the next 4 minutes.

[wise oak]

it’s usually like 5 minutes or wtv

[grand kestrel]

more like 1-2 hours before.

[wise oak]

ok then they will

idk why r u arguing about it tho 😮‍💨

[grand kestrel]

just making sure you're not going to be surprised if you get a god artifact and the banner is gone XD

[wise oak]

its not but alr

[grand kestrel]

it's not 'yet'

[wise oak]

ok??

ur acting like they gon take it away wheb theres 2 hours left

as if

[grand kestrel]

they've done it before.

[wise oak]

nice

[open shore]

I thought they only did that with the banner right before an update 🤔

[wise oak]

dunno prob

[grand kestrel]

that may be when they did it before.

lol

[wise oak]

oh wow no way the banner is still there

who would have guessed

its almost like they didnt get rid if the banner 2 hours before

[open shore]

Y'all it's just a banner 😔

[wise oak]

🤷‍♀️

[grand kestrel]

hey I never said it was going to vanish, just that it could. 😛

[elder light]

she looks good with festering desire

[open shore]

She also looks good with black sword 👀

[sacred prism]

is deathmatch a good weapon for xiao?

like long term?

[modern raven]

yeah

crit rate

[sacred prism]

alright

cause i’m gonna get battle pass

and idk what one to pick

i think i’ll do the polearm for xiao

[modern raven]

if u dont have blackcliff

use deathmatch

[sacred prism]

yeah i don’t have blackcliff

[modern raven]

im tempted to spend 1,250 php on genshin 😭

[sacred prism]

i have no 4* polearms

[modern raven]

i wanna get bp and welkin

sadly parents wont let me spend money

[modern raven]

ah i see

[sacred prism]

ikr it’s sad

i have like 11 4* swords

[zealous herald]

my sister has deathmatch for xiao it’s a good sub for primordial jade winged spear

the only downside to her is that it has ugly arrows on it so she just uses the 3 star crit rate weapon instead. For some reason.

[sacred prism]

hahaha

white tassel

thats what i gave xiao rn

[ebon ginkgo]

ok so

fav sword for support kuki?

her damage is abysmal so im swapping her to support build

fav sword only level 50 so i can get more er with levels

also, i have qiqi now and my husk set suffering has caused me to get funny clam artifacts so uh doing that

problem is that i have an ER sands but not any good atk% swords

or i could just give her skyward blade and make her have infinite ER

[unkempt oriole]

yep im doing that too

sac is not necessary cuz her cd was quite low

so fav is prolly great option

was thinking about iron sting too, but i guess its not necessary

[ebon ginkgo]

my other option is skyward blade but i dont think thats necessary

it has better users

[unkempt oriole]

u have better users

yes

im planning to build 3 hp% on her

with clam set

[ebon ginkgo]

im running hp/hp/crit for fav passive

[unkempt oriole]

ah true, forgot about the maintaining crit part

[ebon ginkgo]

weapon is still only level 50 so i can get more er

[unkempt oriole]

yea i should do that too, unless i get a god tier hp circlet

[ebon ginkgo]

and 35k hp is still quite good

[unkempt oriole]

with high enough crit

oh 35k hp is so good

its solid i say

[gritty tusk]

C0 Ayato Taser with C0 Shinobu & Zhongli Burst DPS Double Geo Pyro | Spiral Abyss 2.7 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://youtu.be/0XeEcdcpbVQ

[bleak river]

So shinobu instead of fischl for survivability works?

Ic

[fluid orbit]

Is beidou with sac claymore and 1.5k atk bad?

[bleak river]

Sealord is better tbh
But idk that sounds okay(?)

[oblique pelican]

Why'd someone use BD without fischl/raiden?

[gilded dock]

Wtf is bd?

[oblique pelican]

Dig bick

[bleak river]

Beidou?

[unkempt oriole]

big daddy

[bleak river]

Nah zhongli can be used anywhere

[wise depot]

I see, so CRIT Rate hat for Kuki, which set is better? Clam or tenacity?

[bleak river]

Tenacity

Clam ain't gonna do much dmg at all

[wise depot]

Okay awesome, what kinda substats? I was thinking hp% ER and EM (for A4 passive)

[modern raven]

can itto do well in gorou + geo traveller and barbara?

[bleak river]

Barbara is okay ig
Geo trav gives cr

[modern raven]

trying to do team comps

[modern raven]

crit rate-

[bleak river]

Em for reaction teams
Hp otherwise

Imo

[bleak river]

In burst

[modern raven]

oohh

[wise depot]

Okay thanks @bleak river !

[modern raven]

i still dont have albedo

;-;

[bleak river]

I have albedo XD

[wise depot]

Same I’m a Geo junkie frankly

[modern raven]

i just realize that i dont have claymore billets .-.

i only have sword, catalyst and polearm XD

[bleak river]

I just got a claymore billet tdy :)

[modern raven]

pein

[tender agate]

ohh lucky

im sick of claymore tbh always get its billet when i could use bow more

[bleak river]

My first billet in weeks

[tender agate]

oh now you mentioned... its been months since i got my last billet o-o

guess this week i will try my luck and clear some weekly boss domains lol

which azhdaha material does kazu need for talent?

[bleak river]

Gilded

[tender agate]

color?

[bleak river]

Gold

[tender agate]

alright tnx

[tender agate]

(and sorry my memory refuses to remember names)

[tender agate]

yeah i got it when u said gold

i thought he needed blue though-

[modern raven]

holy caca-

how

[tender agate]

guess thats yanfei

[tender agate]

how what-

[bleak river]

Branch is needed by ayaka and yanfei
The rest idk

[bleak river]

Prob the number

[tender agate]

its pretty normal i think

[bleak river]

Ye

[tender agate]

wait if inazuma characters need azhdaha too - then who uses raiden and signora materials

[bleak river]

Only the early inazuma chars

[tender agate]

then no point in bullying Signora

[bleak river]

Which are yoi and earlier

[tender agate]

yoi uses azhdaha materials too..

that orange one

[fluid orbit]

Is hp goblet (amazing substats) overkill on 2pc tom+hod yelan?

[sacred prism]

is prototype amber better for barbara than ttds?

[open shore]

Depends what you need from her. Amber heals more, ttds buffs

[sacred prism]

buffs what?

[open shore]

Your dps character

[sacred prism]

ah rlly-? 💀 how do i not know this

[open shore]

Hahaha read the passive on it

[sacred prism]

on ttds?

alright

[open shore]

Ye

[sacred prism]

ahh right i see the buff

yeah i have R5 ttds on her, i’ll probably keep that on her

thanks for pointing out the buff 😭

[timid rover]

HI, Gorou best artifacs?

[urban plaza]

4 Exile for the support role

Exile is a 3 and 4 star set

[vagrant moth]

Could also do Noblesse if ya got ER for it

[sacred prism]

my anemo traveler has 4PC exile and it’s so tanky i love it- great set tbh

[gritty pond]

why kuki is such a problematic character to build?

like should i go for em

or hp%

[vagrant moth]

HP I guess

they really been releasing HP scaling characters recently

[gritty pond]

yea i noticed that too

[vagrant moth]

they really want us to save those copium artifacts lmao

[gritty pond]

well thats nice because there is a use for them now

[vagrant moth]

nic

e

[quasi abyss]

my characters barely pass 50 crit rate and you have 102

most of mine are at a nice 20-40 cr

[sacred prism]

he has 38.1% anemo dmg bonus too!!
(just doesn’t fit without me taking 2 photos lmao)

is this decent for me being WL3 and a LVL60 Xiao?
i’m just making do with what i’ve got rn

[gritty pond]

You should to try reaching more cdmg

[sacred prism]

yeah i cant rlly get any more on him- i’ll try
any other recommendations?

[ebon ginkgo]

anyway on a more serious note for qiqi, i think atk/atk/hb with skyward sword is the best i can do for her atm

unfortunately i havent gotten a fourth usable clam piece yet (although the ones i have are not necessarily good for her since theyre all crit focused) so im using 2p clam 2p glad

this will probably be her only permanent piece

[sacred prism]

srry haha

[unkempt oriole]

U mean nic h e

[jolly thorn]

thinking about putting tenacity on raiden to completely support my eula with her skill alone

[unkempt oriole]

It won't be supporting dmg if u do that

[jolly thorn]

it wont?

her burst only gives energy to the team other than that its not doing much
her skill increases elemental burst dmg for as long as the eye is up

unless i'm mistaken

[modern raven]

Quick question

Can I like.. gives itto artis that arent husk

Cuz i hate farming the domain

[grand kestrel]

sure.

[bleak river]

The point of eula raiden is a dual carry team
Which means both chars have to be decently invested
Hence why raiden has to do dmg

[idle granite]

with Eula & Raiden, Eula is only meant to be on the field only to use her brust and when its done you use the other 2 supports and Raiden's Q to use Eula again when her Q is recharged

[jolly thorn]

ohh ok

[unkempt oriole]

Both jh and ender explained what I couldn't put in words beautifully

[unkempt oriole]

Bad idea but it's ur world so u do whatever works honestly

[unkempt oriole]

Yes as they mentioned, both need to be decently invested to get your optimal output
Plus if u needed a dmg buff, any other characters can do that, for instance any catalyst character with ttods

[idle granite]

its not that Eula's basics suck damage wise, but its because they are slower that you lose out on damage compared to other main dps units, her damage comes from her Q and her held E with 2 stacks. Raiden can help get extra damage out with her burst and allow Eula to be used faster.

[river ore]

@idle granite has leveled up to LEVEL 8

[unkempt oriole]

Yeass Raiden enables eula to squeeze out more dmg between NA intervals (claymore nature)

[idle granite]

and trying to rotate Eula with her basics against an enemy or to dodge is like turning a Semi-Truck

[unkempt oriole]

That's a very nice but oddly specific description 😂😂

[idle granite]

tbh I have had those Kiragi kick my ass several times using Eula and it was Raiden's burst that helped me beat them

[unkempt oriole]

Oh 😂 a Raiden eula enjoyer

No wonder

[idle granite]

same with those pyro lectors last abyss reset

[unkempt oriole]

Man don't even talk about it, even with reaction team it's pain for me

The shield capping health is ass

[gritty tusk]

Arataki Gang Shinobu x Itto & Reverse Melt C6 Rosaria x C3 Raiden | Spiral Abyss 2.7 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://youtu.be/a0qYNPvVoKU

[limpid urchin]

hey i just crowned Yelan's burst, i plan to crown her elemental skill as well, do i need to level up her normal attack too?

[rustic plank]

no need, unless you really like her

[bleak river]

Levelling it would only increase the breakthrough barb dmg, and you wouldn't use that if you use her exactly as a xingqiu replacement

Only if you do yelan national or maybe taser?

[limpid urchin]

my overworld team is Hu Tao Yelan XQ Zhongli

[bleak river]

Then no

Not worth levelling in the slightest

[modern raven]

Okay so how much def does itto need ;-;?

[wispy thunder]

What weapon u use ?

[modern raven]

whiteblind

r3

[wispy thunder]

+2.4k

[modern raven]

owh shi

[wispy thunder]

How much you have ?

[modern raven]

uhh he has no artis

hes lvl 50

still

:">

imma farm husk domain tomorrow

[signal tundra]

Hi, my crit rate for Yelan is low and im not sure which piece I should try to replace in her artifacts - can anyone give me some suggestions?

[bleak river]

Well just…get a cr circ…

Feather is painful
Sands is painful
Circ is painful

[open shore]

^

[signal tundra]

I thought the circ is pretty nice with the high hp% no?

And does she not need EM? (Referring to the sands)

[open shore]

She's unlikely to be the one to proc reactions, so she doesn't really need em

[signal tundra]

I’m building her as a dps so she at least for me is procing reactions

[open shore]

On field DPS you mean?

[signal tundra]

Yes yes

That’s also why I kinda like the feather since it helps with normal atk from that high ATK %

[open shore]

Hm, the em is still likely to only benefit your e, I think if you've got a sub DPS, the burst will still not be the one doing the reactions

[signal tundra]

Gotcha

[open shore]

You could switch it with a sands that has some cr

Or change your circlet

[signal tundra]

Ig I’ll work on sands first

[open shore]

To cr

[signal tundra]

Yea, sadly I have no cr circlet and you know how hard those are to snatch 😭

Ty for the help :)

[open shore]

Lol and then there's me trying desperately to get a cd circlet instead hahhaa

Fyi, having her on emblem would likely nerf her on field DPS. Good for her ult tho

[signal tundra]

With sac bow she (basically) always has her burst up so im mostly just bursting and double zooming

But then the phys arrows do around 500-1100

[gritty tusk]

C0 Shinobu x C6 Beidou Overload Combo & C0 Diluc Vape Double Geo | Spiral Abyss 2.7 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://youtu.be/DMvkh03mFLE

[sand igloo]

Which one is the best for yoimiya…Echoes or Shimenawa

[bleak river]

Echoes.
Her burst is a decent proportion of her total dmg so shim just removes that

[sand igloo]

Tysm

[open shore]

Says the one who uses shim on hu tao 🤭

[bleak river]

i can still burst with funerational :)

[bleak river]

With its 3 fav weapons

[covert haven]

91/108 solid 55+k every E when I ult

what u think?

[bronze flame]

must be a shame that 10% of the time you don't crit, after surrendering so much cdmg to get so close to 100% crate

[open shore]

Dhshdhdhs

[ebon ginkgo]

i highly recommend switching to a crit dmg circlet

even with only 10% crit rate in its substat you'd still have 70/170 or so

[humble pecan]

^

[open shore]

^^

But "only" 10 rate on a cdmg circlet, as tho those aren't rare lol

[ebon ginkgo]

thats only 2 rolls of cr

maybe my standards are too high but 2 rolls is average for me

average to make a piece usable* for me

i dont think i have any cdmg circlet with more than 2 cr rolls myself, but i typically dont use cdmg circlets with less than 10cr

[storm wave]

favorite combo

[wise oak]

the crit rate 😭

[storm wave]

i only need their energy recharge,
and i just started 2 months ago

it's really hard farming for artifacts, mostly for noblesse oblige

[sacred prism]

artefacts are just so much torture

[humble pecan]

How much downtime does ur bennett burst have 😭

[sacred prism]

ar45- i can farm 5* it’s pain.

[humble pecan]

I have like 200er and he almost never has downtime

[storm wave]

i started having 5 star artifacts 3 weeks ago

[sacred prism]

from bosses?

[storm wave]

it's a real pain, and also for my Jean

[storm wave]

from domains

[sacred prism]

at wl3? how

[storm wave]

only for WL4 and up

with 5* drops

i am still working for Jean

drops are not usable most of the time

[storm wave]

for ascension materials

[sacred prism]

you can’t get 5* artefacts in domains at WL3 only 4*

[sacred prism]

what do you use her for?

[hallow oriole]

i think she's WL5

[storm wave]

yess

[hallow oriole]

coz lvl cap 80

[sacred prism]

has wl3 role so i assumed- thanks :))

[storm wave]

Healing and AoE

[sacred prism]

alr, youll wanna give her higher atk-

[storm wave]

that is what i am working on farming for domains

i won't stop until i get proper sub stats

[sacred prism]

yep cause her heal scales off her atk

i’d put 2pc 18%atk boost on her

[timber hearth]

if they ever fails to crit 4 times in a roll, they should know that they could have gotten a 5*
0.1^4 = 0.0001
0.0001/100 = 0.01%

@covert haven have you?

[modern raven]

hi

[timber hearth]

hi

[ebon ginkgo]

my ayato with 99.3% crit has failed crits thrice in a row before

where my triple 5 star mihoyo

[bleak river]

Really good at unlucky, not good at lucky

[mossy barn]

What do I change in my mona

[modern raven]

im laughing.

[mossy barn]

HEALER?!?!?!?

[modern raven]

IKR

[mossy barn]

Give me the healing build

oh shi its because of the c4-

[modern raven]

WHAT

GOROU CAN HEAL ;-;??

NOW I FRFR NEED HIS CONS

[bleak river]

Dps XD

[modern raven]

sheesh

[bleak river]

It's not a lot.

[mossy barn]

but heal

👀

c4 gorou + c6 Zhongli

[bleak river]

I'd rather run kokomi

[modern raven]

i was wondering why the mono geo team has no healer

it was C4 or C6 Gorou all along

[bleak river]

But also, zhongli shield

[modern raven]

ooh

[timber hearth]

I'm honestly more surprised that he is "dps"

[modern raven]

XD

[timber hearth]

chuck an amos bow on him?

[modern raven]

i had dps gorou

[mossy barn]

BUILD

RN

[modern raven]

i ran him with 4pc glad to see if it helped XD

[mossy barn]

oh its a physical dmg-

[modern raven]

I gave him a crit dmg bow, 4pc glad

[mossy barn]

nvm then

[modern raven]

not phys

its geo

[timber hearth]

mf he'sf not claymore - polearm - nor is he sword

[modern raven]

the glad gob had geo dmg bonus

[mossy barn]

rate my mona build from 1 to 10

[modern raven]

he just kept on doing 2k to 15k

;-;

[bleak river]

Dps mona

[timber hearth]

6

get more cr

[modern raven]

i'd say 8

[bleak river]

6.9

[timber hearth]

I gave 6 because also not c2

c2 gib more dps

[mossy barn]

just read the c2 skill and yes I agree

[modern raven]

im farming husk domain

ffs where are the def sands when you need them

[mossy barn]

ALSO C6

[modern raven]

im hiding myself from the hackers

[bleak river]

I love how I'm not using widsith on anybody

[mossy barn]

I literally only put mona on my character thingu

[modern raven]

mmm imma farm emblem after i finally build itto, gorou and yunjin

[bleak river]

Me but I needa get a set for albedo too

[mossy barn]

speaking of hackers what server do they attack?

[modern raven]

usually eu and asia

[mossy barn]

oh ok

[bleak river]

NA gets no love
Even by hackers

[mossy barn]

dang

[modern raven]

lmao, its true tho

[bleak river]

Yet most of the content creators are NA

:/

[mossy barn]

why eu and asia tho there are more whales in NA

[modern raven]

mm idk either

[mossy barn]

hehehe at least I have different passwords for my gmail and for my acc on genshin

[modern raven]

same

also if my gmail was hacked my parents would know cuz my acc is connected ;-;

[mossy barn]

same

[modern raven]

i like chopping trees with itto, especially when it suddenly rains XD

[mossy barn]

ok imagine this is heizou and the circlet is replaced with cr and the cr on the circlet sub is atk

[modern raven]

sheesh

[timber hearth]

I don't even have widsith

I have like

[bleak river]

I use oathsworn on yae, dodoco on yanfei

[timber hearth]

9 favonious lances

[bleak river]

I need another r5 fav Lance omg

[timber hearth]

2 fav greatswords

no fav sword

no sac swordd 😡

[modern raven]

I- EXCUSE ME DO U HAVE GOOD ARTIS OR SUMN ;-;??

share some of that good crit stats 😔

[bleak river]

id just rather not have the rng of widsith

[modern raven]

#sobbing

[timber hearth]

Just to flex, my yae artifacts I hunted for a week

[modern raven]

;-;

[bleak river]

Ts yae…

Interesting

[timber hearth]

used in mono electro comp

[bleak river]

Fair

[timber hearth]

beidou(raiden replacement(lost 5050 to mona)) yae sara kuki

[bleak river]

Eventually I'll farm up a set of 4TF (for shenanigans) so I might get a set of ts in the process

[timber hearth]

I am about to hit pity on standard

🙏 kocking or diluc 🙏

c1 jean can be nice

[bleak river]

Not keking?

[timber hearth]

kock

ing

[timber hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-twitch-twitchtv-twitch-emote-kek-gif-19085736

[timber hearth]

proe gamer

[wispy thunder]

[open shore]

@bleak river ahh sorry, really delayed cus I've been hopped up on drugs from wisdom teeth removal but I think I saw once that an r5 whiteblind is on par with r1 serpent for itto

[bleak river]

I know that much XD

[river ore]

@bleak river has leveled up to LEVEL 37

[open shore]

So refine is okay I guess 😂

[bleak river]

I think imma r3 for now, I want a few spare in case

[open shore]

Maybe the bosses will be nice

[bleak river]

U mean, the boss XD
I only do raidenbot now

[open shore]

I stopped doing bosses when I got 18 total drops of each boss hahhaa

And then refarm when a character uses them

[bleak river]

I'm at 40+ on everything except raidenbot XD

Or was it 30

[open shore]

Jfc

I save for artifacts but still get shit artifacts 🤡

[bleak river]

Tru

Fodder is still more useful than excess boss mats tho

[gritty tusk]

C3 Raiden Shogun Double Geo & C0 Shinobu Avatar Team | Spiral Abyss 2.7 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab0y3jqi7uQ

[eternal orbit]

what do u guys think phys keqing ?

or

electro keqing

btw she's c5 (yeap i've been getting here on every 50/50 lose)

[wispy thunder]

yes electro more benefit

[eternal orbit]

even if i'm not a huge fan of keqing but i want to try it since she's c5 T_T

[modern raven]

this is so lame, feeling bad for u, C3 right here 😔

[bleak river]

good enough for now

[modern raven]

sheesh

[bleak river]

husk tmr

[modern raven]

oooh can i join?

i need better artis

[bleak river]

suree

tho it'll either be in the morning, or at 10+pm
(gmt+8)

[modern raven]

what time in the morning?

[bleak river]

umm prob 9+am

[modern raven]

shure

i usually farm at like... 6 am but i can push it back 3 hrs XD

[bleak river]

just...keep in mind the timezone

[modern raven]

OOHH

[bleak river]

im gmt+8

we have the same timezone?

[modern raven]

uhh idk?

its 8:19 pm rn

how tf do u calculate 😭

[bleak river]

ye we have the same timezone

[modern raven]

ohh

so slay

[bleak river]

why you wake at 6am tho

[modern raven]

instinct

[bleak river]

i wake at 8

[modern raven]

sheesh

i sleep at 10pm and wake up at 5 am .-.

imma just farm itto mats and wood cuz teapot primos 😔

[quasi abyss]

question what teams comps are good for floor 11?

especially the last floor

i WAS running yanfei, xingqiu, zhongli, albedo but i didn’t know about the dogs and i died

[bronze flame]

mono geo/morgana - koko in the flex slot of mono geo

[quasi abyss]

morgana?

does it need yunjin she’s on chamber 2 with raiden and sunfire jean as a crystilize shielded

[bronze flame]

oh, nevermind i forgot how i did it:

bennett for heals, but the geo doggos get their res decreased by geo attacks, plus they get aggro'ed, so they go down super fast

[quasi abyss]

i wish they had a better geo healer

noelle is lvl 40 and i. don’t have white kind

[bronze flame]

yeah, i have c5 gorou now

he's not great lol

[quasi abyss]

i wish i had that little dog

he didn’t come home

[bronze flame]

i mean, he's still only level 70 something

oof

[quasi abyss]

yep

[bronze flame]

you can run prototype amber on ningguang

or, if you don't have gorou, you can just run double geo double something else

[quasi abyss]

i could run Yanfei, Kaeya, Zhongli, Albedo for the melt OR i could built dps zhongli

i could try and build dps geo trav?

he had 2352 atk but does 2-3k dmg

[bronze flame]

i mean if you don't have a good mono geo team, taser also works well

tho if you need heals you'll want kokomi

[quasi abyss]

isn’t tazer electro charged but a lot

[quasi abyss]

could barbara work?

[bronze flame]

taser is electro charged with anemo for res shred

ideal is fischl/beidou/xingqiu/sucrose, w/ sucrose as on-field driver

[quasi abyss]

i have them!

[bronze flame]

variations with raiden/yae, or kokomi for the onfield driver, kazoo instead of sucrose

[quasi abyss]

but dps electro trav, xingqiu, sucrose, and a healer work?

or beidou

[bronze flame]

sac frags will be considerably better for sucrose as a driver, no more TTDS since she's on-field

[quasi abyss]

i rlly need to build more characters

[quasi abyss]

good thing i have that!!!! :D

[bronze flame]

beidou is really good because she's multi-target

[quasi abyss]

i could run her with totm

2p

[bronze flame]

but yeah, you could throw barbie in there or kookie, or smthng

usually you put the TOTM on fischl, i think

[quasi abyss]

rlly?

[visual osprey]

if u want healing u can slap a r5 amber on sucrose

[quasi abyss]

it heals??

[bronze flame]

yeh

[quasi abyss]

i didnt know that

[visual osprey]

personaly i like it
the only downside of sucrose taser is that it has no good healing

and prototype amber can fix that

its party wide too so it can counter corrosion

[quasi abyss]

and i need healing theyre all lvl 70-60

[quasi abyss]

oh that’s rlly good i died within 30 seconds

[visual osprey]

u shouldnt b losing health for 30 seconds straight if ur playing right

[bronze flame]

dodging/ranged attacks are good

[quasi abyss]

ty

[grand kestrel]

dodging the corrosion wolves is easy

[quasi abyss]

i stood in place with shield💀

i don’t go in inazuma

[grand kestrel]

yeah no, don't stand and take corrosion, it'll kill you, it stacks.

[quasi abyss]

plus they all have around 10k health

only raiden, kaeya, thoma💀, and trav are at lvl 80-90

i was a thoma main he did. around 5k per skill

so i’ll try tazer, morgana?, and mono geo and see what works best

ty!

[visual osprey]

most teams want to be using their ults

and u get iframes during that

for something like rational u basically get like 30% invul time just bcos ur in ult animation so much

(mayb thats overestimat but u get the point)

u can dodge a lot of damage by just ulting

[quasi abyss]

i love national

the 15.5% atk feather and 10.5% atk flower rlly carry me

[quasi abyss]

i need kazuha.

[frail eagle]

What's the best for a Kazuha support boost ?

[vagrant moth]

EM one I guess for support

[frail eagle]

okk okk

I hope I will have a good substat

Is this one good ?

[quasi abyss]

the only bad thing is the crit

other then that it seems good

[frail eagle]

okok

I'll try to have a bettre one

[quasi abyss]

for kazuha swirl right?

swirl can’t crit

but it’s a rlly good piece!

[vagrant moth]

isn't the main point the buff and the res shred tho

so you don't really need anything besides EM and 4 pc VV

I mean ER is useful so you can keep doing it

[visual osprey]

crit rate is useful

it helps u run fav on vv support

the not so useful part is atk

[frail eagle]

Ok thank you all

but what is the most optimal piece ?

Like EM

Maybe ER

but what is the most optimal piece ?

[river ore]

@frail eagle has leveled up to LEVEL 1

[frail eagle]

oh

[urban plaza]

For the swirl/EM build
The only thing that matters as sub stat is ER
Making it so that you can burst off CD

But getting EM pieces is hard in the first place- and hence harder to get EM with ER substat- and even harder to get one that rolls into ER well

People do recommend using ER sand if needed for the ER
But the required value depends highly from team to team and mobs to mobs

[grand kestrel]

I mean it's not that that normal stats do nothing, they're just not the focus. You'll still get some benefit out of crit and AP

[urban plaza]

Alternatively you can get ER from the weapon

For my Kazuha build, I tried getting my ER from the flower and feather, and got some from the goblet too

I am satisfied with the build
The EM isn't close to 1000 but again, I'm satisfied

[grand kestrel]

1000 EM is a bit obscene, nice, but obscene lol

[urban plaza]

Yee but some people have it XD

I was aiming for it ngl
But then I realised that ER was pretty important too, so I made some sacrifices

[quasi abyss]

me after learning i get 125 em from albedos burst at asc 4: 💐🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️💨

[limpid urchin]

FR 😮 that would be perfect for Hu Tao

[frail eagle]

Hu Tao best character

[grand kestrel]

Who? Tao?

XD

[quasi abyss]

hu tao uses em?

is it for vap

oh it is💀

i’m gonna use it for kazuha!

[fleet knot]

Albedo kazuha don't really have teams together

Kazuha can't benefit albedo at all

[ebon ginkgo]

not necessarily

albedo is a good independent support unit for the extra damage and energy particles

i dont think it's too unrealistic to run something like hu tao xingqiu kazuha albedo

[quasi abyss]

would Raiden, Kazuha, Albedo, Benntt be bad?

i’m not running er on kazuha i want a low on em

a lot

[ebon ginkgo]

you dont really have a dedicated damage dealer there

[quasi abyss]

raiden

[ebon ginkgo]

raiden is not going to have enough energy for her burst unless you have like 300% ER

[quasi abyss]

i can easily get her burst back tho

[ebon ginkgo]

you sure? the only team i know of that uses her as the main damage dealer while keeping her burst up is raiden national

[quasi abyss]

i thought her er only matters for how fast she wants her burst bad?

[ebon ginkgo]

well if youre running her with kazuha albedo and bennett youre going to want her burst instantly off cooldown since youre not spending much time off of her

[quasi abyss]

oh

she has around 237% er rn

[ebon ginkgo]

when you want to run raiden as the main damage dealer you want a team that will allow her to always have her burst ready

because teams with raiden as the main dps focus around swapping between a bunch of supports to do their ultimate and then go right into raiden for a max resolve stack burst, and with her passive recharging the ultimates of the supports, and just repeating that cycle until everything dies

[quasi abyss]

ohhhh

[ebon ginkgo]

so someone like albedo, who's support comes from only his skill, doesnt provide much benefit to raiden

if you replaced albedo with someone like xingqiu, there'd be much more viability

[quasi abyss]

so Raiden Kazuha Xingqiu and Bennett

[ebon ginkgo]

although if you really just want to run raiden as the main dps, i just recommend using raiden national (raiden xingqiu xiangling bennett)

[quasi abyss]

i’m thinking on kazuha teams

i’m going to get him on his rerun

[ebon ginkgo]

for a kazuha team thats pretty good too

[quasi abyss]

kazuha xingqiu xiangling bennett?

[ebon ginkgo]

the one problem i see with kazuha on that team is that he's trying to buff three different elements, but he cant necessarily swirl all of them for the vv res shred or the elem buff from his em

[ebon ginkgo]

the issue with this team is energy recharge. xingqiu will be fine, but xiangling has a really high burst cost and very low particle generation, which is why raiden would normally take the place of kazuha in order to give more energy to xiangling

[bleak river]

Ofc, national teams without raiden exist, and are very strong

[quasi abyss]

i thought raiden was the only one who had a national team

[bleak river]

Childe, sucrose, chongyun, etc

[ebon ginkgo]

no theres a lot of national variations

raiden national is just the most popular because its the strongest afaik

[bleak river]

It's the most popular because it's the easiest

[ebon ginkgo]

^ that too

[bleak river]

No need to double swirl like for childe and suc

[ebon ginkgo]

also raiden was like the highest grossing banner which means its more likely that someone has raiden than other 5 stars

[quasi abyss]

true i have raiden and so does my friend

[ebon ginkgo]

and then of course xiangling is free from spiral abyss, xingqiu has been an event reward several times, so most people have those characters

[quasi abyss]

she is??

[ebon ginkgo]

yeah if you clear floor 3 you get a free xiangling

[quasi abyss]

oh

[fleet knot]

not the strongest

i mean, other teams scale better with investment

[modern raven]

Can itto do 2pc Husk and 2pc Noblesse?

[bleak river]

Does noblesse even do anyth on him

[humble pecan]

No bc his burst doesn't do dmg iirc

If it does i never noticed it

[bleak river]

I think it's just like xiao, infusion that cannot be overridden

[ebon ginkgo]

yeah noblesse doesnt do anything for itto

he doesnt have burst damage, its just an infusion of his normal attacks

[modern raven]

Oof ;-;

So i 4pc husk is the best

[bleak river]

Ofc

[modern raven]

DAMNNN

[bleak river]

Dbane carrying your em tho

[frigid dock]

Yeah, I constructed my build based off dbane

[fleet knot]

I mean, yeah
That's what it's supposed to do

Lol

[bleak river]

Tru XD

[broken remnant]

Guys how do u think about gorou's setting?

He doesn't need def?

even elemental mastery

Then it doesn't use husk of opulent?

[bleak river]

4exile

[broken remnant]

It's better than noblesse?

for c2 itto?

[bleak river]

Well itto alr has a ton of atk in his burst, so it wouldn't hurt to have more
But exile gives energy

[broken remnant]

for dps cycle? thanks

[gilded dock]

noblesse does jack shit

you want 100% uptime on gorou and itto burst, so 4 instructor with a 5star offset CR Circlet + Fav Warbow is the best for itto

[broken remnant]

thanks

[bleak river]

Instructor gives em...

[bleak river]

Not sure why you'd want em on geo

[gilded dock]

eh

not instructor

The Exile

my bad

@broken remnant

[open shore]

Too cheap to raise four star artifacts, I have him 4 husk just cus the drops were there that itto couldn't use 😂

[broken remnant]

I see, thanks

[river ore]

@broken remnant has leveled up to LEVEL 1

[gritty tusk]

C0 Ayato Double Geo & C0 Shinobu C6 Beidou Overvape Combo | Spiral Abyss 2.7 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiE3RsSZJNY

[unkempt oriole]

sheesh

[unkempt oriole]

still kinda insane

[gritty tusk]

Happy Birthday Raiden Shogun! C3 Raiden Shogun Hyper Carry Spiral Abyss Floor 12 - 9⭐All Chambers!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfbBDsla1oU

[quasi abyss]

yall i’m trying to build my fish, and i put 2p atk and 2p em with stringless on her with xingqiu, and her skill did 1-2k and her burst did 3k. she’s lvl 50 and has 1411 atk

is fishl and xingqiu a bad team?

her passive says electro charged

[bleak river]

Two chars isn't rly a team

[gilded dock]

switched some stuff around after getting a decent feather

+   326 HP
-    65 ATK
+    23 EM
-  6.6% CR
+ 27.2% CD```

converting the HP into ATK, the net ATK loss is 45 during E, but way more CD

[sacred prism]

is ER a good main stat on my sands piece for xiao?

[jolly thorn]

i think people normally run him with another anemo character for recharging his ult

maybe atk% instead, but depends on your team i suppose

[sacred prism]

hmm im unlikely to ever do that

[gilded dock]

then you play him wrong, plain and simple

with a proper battery + funnelling, xiao can do with like 2-3 ER subs

so the rest can all go into ATK, DMG bonus, crit

[sacred prism]

if i’m going for optimisation yes. but that’s not all what genshin is about

[gilded dock]

dude

the only time anyone really needs help in this game is for abyss

and that is for optimization

[sacred prism]

true true- so should only be ran with anemo support in abyss?

if so i could use sucrose or jean?

[gilded dock]

people generally use sucrose, though a jean with fav sword could do decent enough

and then mainly a question whether or not you have zhongli and albedo, or going for another duo

[sacred prism]

i have neither :’)

[sacred prism]

well my duo would depend on what side i put them on…

[dark egret]

AR 35

[river ore]

@dark egret has leveled up to LEVEL 2

[gilded dock]

meanwhile, that's almost as much Xp as you need from 59 to 60

[sacred prism]

i had 101K and went straight to AR45. you’ll go past that hahaha. now i need to ascend straight away lmao. i’m gonna stay at AR45 for ages cause now i can get 5* artefacts mwahaha.

[gilded dock]

tbh, not ascending is stupid

[sacred prism]

again, for optimisation sure. but i like WL4 rn, at least until my talents and artefacts are better

i cleared 5-3 on abyss at AR35.
i could have gone farther but i got frustrated. but it’s possible for sure

[gilded dock]

You just starve yourself off ressources. And you can always go down

[sacred prism]

only 1 world level

[grand kestrel]

honestly I could stand to go up a world level, the overworld is pretty tame. 😛

[bleak river]

i exchanged the cd for em

[humble pecan]

Should I go triple em on venti with stringless or should i do something else for him

[bleak river]

Just do em venti

[limpid urchin]

what weapon is better for Noelle? whiteblind or serpent spine?

[bleak river]

Going off of itto's weapon ranking,
R1 SS≈R5 WB

[limpid urchin]

noiiiiice

[limpid urchin]

lets say i have r5 wb should i use it instead of r1 ss?

[bleak river]

Use whatever you have already levelled

[humble pecan]

Imo it depends on ur crit ratio and ur playstyle since with ss u need to be on field to gain stacks while with whiteblind u only need to hit the enemy then u can switch off field

[bleak river]

With SS it's weird cuz you have to choose whether you want to start with SS stacks or husk stacks

[unkempt oriole]

SS is better off with non husk users imo

But at the same time

So is whiteblind passive stacking

[gilded dock]

my serpent spine currently has no real use atm, since I am the claymore archon

I should grab royal and blackcliff just for the meme, but that's like throwing away a 10-pull in starglitter

and my beidou runs an R5 akuoumaru, so she has no use for it either lol

[vagrant moth]

send it to me

[gilded dock]

though, atm, only beidou sees play. noelle still waiting for a better battery to come along

[bleak river]

Claymore archon indeed

[unkempt oriole]

HELP UNFORGED BATMAN

😂

[tender agate]

is E needed for yunjin?

or is it okay to leave it at lv1

[bleak river]

Just leave it at lvl 1

[tender agate]

i cant tell if its sarcasm or you're serious

how about normal atk?

[oblique pelican]

You only need to lvl up burst for support yunjin. Unless you want to main dps her

[bleak river]

^

[bleak field]

guys i wanna use diona but im low AR i got no idea what artefact should I use

[bleak river]

Just stack hp

[tender agate]

okay thanks

[gritty tusk]

Duos C0 Kazuha DPS C5 Bennett & C3 Raiden Shogun DPS C0 Shinobu | Spiral Abyss 2.7 Floor 12 - 9⭐
https://youtu.be/t26CFrw7qXA

[sacred prism]

it didn’t all go to DEF ✨

and another phewww

[eternal orbit]

for ayato i hesitate between these 2 builds
1 with the black sword for more normal atk dmg

Or second Build with PJC for more atk / hp and crit

[wise oak]

second

[modern raven]

WHAT THE ACTUAL FU-

85/222 CRIT??

SHEEESHH

[eternal orbit]

[modern raven]

Btw is this a good itto build, i plan on farming more in husk domain for better artis but this is the best i can do cuz i want him in my party

[eternal orbit]

what do u think about this one (this one with food 20 crit not gonna lie)

or this

[modern raven]

BRUHHH

IMAGINE AYATO STILL DOESNT CRIT 💀

Oh wait he aint childe

[eternal orbit]

even more

[modern raven]

Im crying

[eternal orbit]

75k on a slash with ayato

[bleak river]

Pjc is his best in slot weapon

[ebon ginkgo]

My ayato better

(No food buff and also off-field so his hp and atk are higher than this)

[fleet knot]

unconditional weapon effects such as pjc's hp are counted even when units are not in a party

its just dynamic and conditional stuff, like the atk buff, that wont calc

<@&874036938351448094>

[rustic plank]

4 hod?

[eternal orbit]

u think so ?

[covert meteor]

how to build tank noelle

got no zhongli so yeah

noelle

[bleak river]

Def, sac gs(?)

[covert meteor]

shield strength i need

what arti stats

[oblique pelican]

Bad idea

[covert meteor]

ok

i need tank

i'll do it anyways

[oblique pelican]

Kokomi best tanker 👍

[rustic plank]

2k atk, and off-field with pjc :x

no food

[covert meteor]

no kokomi

[eternal orbit]

i was no food too

that's my ayato with food

[bleak river]

We don't care about food XD

[rustic plank]

that's defo with bennet buff XD

[oblique pelican]

Bennett buffs more

[rustic plank]

ah yea, mb thought it was + 2744

[eternal orbit]

with bennett

so no it was without bennett

and if i add koujo sara it becomes like this (my sara is lvl 70 and with a 4* weapon so it can get better)

[rustic plank]

i see, shiny eosf 🧂

[harsh girder]

People debating their stats for bigger damage

Me dealing dmg as long as the enemies dies

[eternal orbit]

can u show me ur ayato with full buff and food ?

[rustic plank]

definitely lost on cdm lol

but yea sure

[rustic plank]

using No Tomorrow, hutao crit buff, sara, bennet

sara using sac bow talent lv8 80/90

[eternal orbit]

what's hutao crit rate (yeah i don't have hutao so i don't know it) xD

[rustic plank]

part of hu tao skill

[bleak river]

As in how much, I'm assuming

[rustic plank]

after infusion ends, crit rate buff for 12%

[eternal orbit]

oh nice

[eternal orbit]

131 crit that's too much

[rustic plank]

beating a dead horse :p

[bleak river]

My ayato is very sad sigh

[eternal orbit]

i'd like to get skyward harp for my sara but i keep getting PJWS

[bleak river]

wip itto

(i think gorou ran out)

ushi did 32k?

[rustic plank]

the em roll is just sad

is it using em sand placeholder?

[bleak river]

…no

That makes it sadder

Only the flower and goblet have been locked in, the rest are just placeholder

Wait

It's albedo burst giving me the em

[rustic plank]

oh yea, 80

4 em rolls then

[bleak river]

23 and 58 from feather and circ

[signal tundra]

R3 😳 why’d you refine it so much? Isn’t it good for other chars or not really?

[oblique pelican]

Pov: you're a whale

[signal tundra]

I still regret refining a harp because I deadass have 4, it’s the only standard weapon I get, but the dmg increase was so small it doesn’t make sense to refine them

[eternal orbit]

i don't thinks so

cause at best you'll use 1 spear character each time

[bleak river]

Depends on the person

[eternal orbit]

as a dps spear ?

wait let me show u something

[bleak river]

Funerational has Tao xl
Rational has raiden xl

[eternal orbit]

i never use pjws on raiden ^^'

[bleak river]

It's something if you don't have anyth else/you want to catch xl

[eternal orbit]

raiden always needs er weapon

[bleak river]

I'd rather spine raiden and catch xl tbh

[eternal orbit]

with her artifacts set to have max dmg

[eternal orbit]

why ?

[bleak river]

Spine doesn't do bad on raiden, catch is xl bis

[eternal orbit]

i want that 32% burst dmg and 12% crit on raiden

especially since i have raiden c2 and all her best dmg is burst dmg

[bleak river]

Ah c2 raiden
Then ye, use catch

[modern raven]

What the.. What is the art build?

[eternal orbit]

i guess it was this one

full hydro set

ayato alt => kazuha e => bennett alt => bennett e => xianling alt => xianling e => kazuha burst => ayato e

[verbal harbor]

can someone tell me which one is better for klee?

[eternal orbit]

depends on her crit rate actually

cause i would say go see if she needs crit rate then er than em

i would say the 1st is really good but if her crit rate is low go for 2nd

[verbal harbor]

ok tyy

[wise oak]

Legit spent all my fragiles just to get that shitty ass sands

Someone diss my build or smth i need improvement 😭

[urban plaza]

It is better than mine👍

[wise oak]

💀

[unkempt oriole]

bruh just a bit more to 200cd

still salty about the c1

[wise oak]

im so mad

[urban plaza]

I just saw the C1 omfg

Help

[wise oak]

HAHC

my goal is 80:200 but mhy is a fucking whore

i need a better gob 😭

[urban plaza]

Lmaoo

[grand kestrel]

Gob dangit

[urban plaza]

But like the ER is nice on the Goblet

[unkempt oriole]

on point

[wise oak]

dmakfke ikk but i really wish cr was there and maybeee more crit dmg if possible

would the flower be the most replaceable in this build?

god the substats r so good

[visual osprey]

ur xiao is pretty good
xiao is my most invested char artifact wise but i didnt wanna put the crowns on him

[wise oak]

holy fuck ur crit ratio

UR CRIT ON UR ARTIFACTS

GOODBYE

“pretty good” THATS A WHOLE ASS LIE 😭

[visual osprey]

xiao just has good crit bcos his ascension is crit and his weapon should b crit too
atk is important on him

ur build looks like its got pretty decent atk too

[wise oak]

please bless me with ur artifact luck oml

[visual osprey]

well a tip for u then

[wise oak]

yes yes

[visual osprey]

just farm the hell out of esf domain

[urban plaza]

Wow I have a really bad Xiao then oml

[wise oak]

please a tip

[visual osprey]

and then dump the artifacts that dont have good start into strongbox for gladiator

[wise oak]

i used up all my fragile farming for vv and the sands was the only decent thing i got 🤡

[urban plaza]

Not VV?

[visual osprey]

2vv vs 2glad/2shime is all pretty much the same

[urban plaza]

Like if you're going VV Glad, you can dump trash VV and Maidens

[visual osprey]

difference is negligible

but esf domain is so much better than vv domain

[urban plaza]

And your VV farming should get you EM ones for Kazuhoe

[wise oak]

wait whats esf domain

[visual osprey]

bcos u dont get useless second set

[urban plaza]

Valid ig

[urban plaza]

Momiji Dyed Court

[visual osprey]

if u wanna farm kazuha yea probably farm vv

[urban plaza]

EoPF domain

[wise oak]

iv already got my kazuha build but the substats r trash

[urban plaza]

Same

[wise oak]

wait no i

phrased that wrong

[urban plaza]

I have like 161 ER, so I'm happy

[visual osprey]

only ER really matters on substats and not that much

[wise oak]

IM NOT GONNA SHUT UO ABOUT UR ARTIFACT ROLLS

ITS SO GODLY

[urban plaza]

mine?

[wise oak]

GODLANDER 😭

[urban plaza]

Ah yes

Yes

[wise oak]

my best artifact i think is 11 cr and 22 crit dmg

[visual osprey]

well ther is still quite a few dead rolls tho
but yea it is pretty good. like i said my xiao is my most invested char in artifacts

[wise oak]

EW EW EWNRJKDOG

[visual osprey]

although i think som of my other chars r starting to catch up as im farming more esf

https://enka.shinshin.moe/u/606523499

[wise oak]

lowkey foaming over ur xiao 😭

ur raiden atk wtfff

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atk goblet lol

optimizer says its better than electro

[wise oak]

wattt

[visual osprey]

bcos raiden has a ton of dmg% already

4esf with raiden's massiv ER gives a bunch

her own E gives herself dmg%

[wise oak]

ohh true

homa would be better than jade right

or

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for my xiao homa is better

depends on artifacts

[wise oak]

oh thats true

maybe ill just give it to hutao if i get it

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but generally, if ur not too heavy on cr or cd:
pjws no stack < homa no buff < homa buffed < pjws max stack

[wise oak]

ohh ok ok

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personaly i like homa's consistent better avg more than pjws inconsistent sometimes better

bcos it does take some time to build those stacks

[wise oak]

thats true

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but if u like to use up xiao's whole burst duration pjws is probably slightly better in the end

[wise oak]

yea yea i do

😮‍💨 ig ill wait a long ass time for some better anemo gobs

[visual osprey]

a good atk goblet is ok for xiao. he also gets a ton of dmg% like raiden

[wise oak]

wait reslly

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my anemo% goblet just happened to be so good that thers no competition

[wise oak]

oh lmao fuck none of my atk gobs r good

oh wait if the crit ratio was the same and the atk went to 2.8k instead of 2.3k would the dmg be better?

atk goblet tho

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idk

[wise oak]

ah wair lemme dmg test

[visual osprey]

i dont think a human can answer that reasonably

just use optimizer

[wise oak]

tf is that 😭

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https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/
it can take the current artifacts u have and calculate which set is the best for a specific source of dmg

in this case xiao's burst infused plunge

[wise oak]

ah ok so the atk gob does like 3k less

than what my anemo gob

[ocean ember]

Really? Iirc Xiao has a ton of easy access to ATK, but DMG is not as accessible for him. No one to shred anemo other than C4 Jean and the shred from Zhongli's shield, and while he does get DMG bonus from his burst and A1 passive, overall ATK I'd say is more easily accessible to him. But idk, may vary on his team and sets. For instance, Vermillion is another source of ATK, and he's usually ran with Jean (who I imagine usually will sport 4p NO on this team, though 2p combinations would be fine as well I imagine), Zhongli (4p TotM), Bennett, TToDS Sucrose, etc. I'd personally run double 2p ATK and anemo goblet over 2p VV and 2p ATK (or double 2p ATK) with ATK goblet.

But ultimately, as you said, for each specific case, Optimiser is the way to go. xD

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yea but he gets like +90% dmg bonus from pressing Q

thats so much

while ur right about the number of buffs he can get, they have not enough uptime
i think one well rolled substat can probably make the difference between optimizer choosing atk/anemo

[ocean ember]

Yeah, but tbf, between running 2p ATK sets and ATK subs it's not too hard to reach a similar amount of extra ATK percentage, but yeah. Ultimately, each specific case is different and optimiser will help xD

[modern raven]

What build is good for Xingqiu main dps?

[grand kestrel]

https://c.tenor.com/b7swbvaVKhUAAAAM/seriously-laugh.gif

[bleak river]

2hod 2atk% ig
if you meant e dps

[modern raven]

E?

[bleak river]

Using his e for dps

[modern raven]

Also what weapon is good for him ;-;

[bleak river]

It does hurt, you know

[modern raven]

Ohh

[modern raven]

Ik, thats why I built him physical

[bleak river]

Anyway it's still good for his burst

What

Why

[modern raven]

Idk

[bleak river]

That doesn't make use of his e

[modern raven]

He still does like 5-9k with his E, but most dmg comes from normal atk ;-; 2k-19k at best

Im clinically insane

[grand kestrel]

I mean there's a decent build for a physical Keqing, why not Xingqiu?

[modern raven]

Mm I dont want to use keqing so im going to use xingqiu.

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xingqiu can do like 80% of his dmg while not on field

so most people like to use him that way, so while another character is onfield doing 100% of their dmg xingqiu is also doing 80% of his dmg at the same time

u end up with 2 characters doing dmg at once instead of one

which, intuitivly, increases ur actual dps output by a lot