🔨・build-discussion

[digital pilot]

That's what you're trying to say lol

Well, yea. But in 1 instance of his plunge, it could only make 8 dashes

[ocean ember]

Hence why it can be more than 8, I'd say more akin to 12 if you don't miss any

[ocean ember]

I guess you mean burst?

His burst lasts 15 seconds

[digital pilot]

Ik

[ocean ember]

And it's not like you take 2 seconds per E

[digital pilot]

We're not getting through to it

[ocean ember]

Well, unfortunately I don't have the link, but I remember seeing a video back then of a Xiao doing Es nonstop and I'm pretty sure it was more than 8 Es xD

[bleak river]

Imma leave you two to talk about your nonexistent c6 xiaos

[ocean ember]

Akjhskd I'mma go sleep now anyways, 3am and have to get up somewhat early

[bleak river]

Gn

[digital pilot]

Wait til 6years

[bleak river]

Not waiting that long XD

[digital pilot]

F2p moment

[ocean ember]

Ty!

[digital pilot]

Imagine

[digital pilot]

Don't ever dream of what we just talked about

[digital pilot]

I'm pretty much going through your explanation but idk why you're not getting through to mine

[native mulch]

ahh;o; this is kinda random but how should i build a main dps kaeya:'>??
i'm planning to use haran

[urban plaza]

Depending on team comp
4 blizz or 2 blizz and 2 glad/substitite

Your CR can vary based on team comp and role

[naive wasp]

So uhm

Guys

How much does damage does a diluc do

End game of course

Vape

Melt

Is is low?

The other channel was silent

[ruby warren]

This is good or bad?

[unkempt oriole]

Pretty good

Assume you're doing freeze comp

Not sure about melt. Not experience

[unkempt oriole]

Honestly think it's decent

[urban plaza]

That is a melt build😭
WT artefacts

Freeze comp uses Blizz

[unkempt oriole]

Idk I just like WT lol

😭

Would use it regardless

Don't have the mental energy to farm bs

[urban plaza]

Xd but you won't benefit from the EM

You can hence run Melt Ganyu (if you get her)

[unkempt oriole]

Ah true that

Well it's only 80 tho😂

[urban plaza]

What is 80?

[ruby warren]

what about this

lol

[unkempt oriole]

Extra 80 from set

[urban plaza]

Ah that way
But 80 is still a lot
And it could be cryo bonus instead--- so...

[unkempt oriole]

True

[rustic plank]

My diluc E melt can do like 50k or more with pyro resonance, provided I'm using 4 pc CW and r1 WGS, c2 and crowned E (was diluc main before I got hu tao)

The artifact stat was pretty trash as I give most of the good one to hu tao (helm, flower, feather)

[naive wasp]

good

[naive wasp]

i see

[barren badge]

uhm how many elemental mastery do you think is too much for hu tao '-'

[bleak river]

I think you'd much rather want a pyro goblet-

[barren badge]

i know ;-;

[river ore]

@barren badge has leveled up to LEVEL 1

[barren badge]

i have to use a hp goblet instead ;-;

[bleak river]

Sounds like my situation :|

Can relate

Weapon is dbane?

[barren badge]

the only pyro goblet I have after 3 months farming

[barren badge]

ye

[bleak river]

That's cd circ right?

[barren badge]

ye

i'm lack of crit rate

[bleak river]

Nice

I wish I could run cd circ

[barren badge]

:v

i wish i had a crit rate circlet

[bleak river]

:/

[barren badge]

:0

that's exactly what i want right now

[bleak river]

I want more cd :|

[barren badge]

:b

try to get a homa

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[bleak river]

Homa will double my wtassel dmg XD

[barren badge]

wait u r using a white tassel?

damn

[bleak river]

No dbane :(

[barren badge]

i used a prototype starglitter before i get my first dragon bane XD

[bleak river]

Cr is nicer than er XD

[barren badge]

but 4 star is better than 3 star isn't it :D

i like all my characters have a lot of energy recharge :D

so that i can spam their burst

[bleak river]

As someone that hoards bursts, I like not using bursts in overworld XD

Hutao has had like one excursion into spiral abyss til now

[barren badge]

all mobs in overworld was destroyed by my zhongli with his the catch :>

so satisfying

[bleak river]

No zhongli :|

[barren badge]

:D

traveler can do it too

[bleak river]

Everything dies to kazu burst if I'm using ayaka freeze

[barren badge]

XD

hope kazuha will rerun soon

[bleak river]

Overworld is just ez

[barren badge]

ye

[bleak river]

I personally hope not so soon so I can save for freedom sworn XD

Make ayaka even stronger :)

[barren badge]

:b

i just want the character

don't care about their weapon at all :>

[bleak river]

Anyway this is p good for now

[barren badge]

oh

still no pyro goblet XD

[bleak river]

Same :|

[barren badge]

hope we will have an op pyro goblet soon :>

[bleak river]

Ye pray XD

[grand kestrel]

you realize you don't actually need to use the same set goblet, right?

[barren badge]

but the problem is I don't even have any pyro goblet ;-;

[grand kestrel]

at all? In any set?

[barren badge]

yep

actually i got one

[barren badge]

here

maybe hp is acceptable for hu tao but i'm kinda lack of crit rate

[wispy thunder]

More cr rate

[heady berry]

Hello there
Is atk sands better or anemo dmg for xiao?

[digital pilot]

Atk sands and anemo cup, ofc

Also, there's no anemo dmg on sands

[digital pilot]

What arti set you're using on him

[heady berry]

My bad my bad, meant goblet instead

[urban plaza]

Anemo gob >>> ATK gob

[grand kestrel]

I want anemo sands.

[modern raven]

Updated ayayo

[unkempt oriole]

ayyyyyyyyyy

demo when xD

[modern raven]

I’ll brb

@unkempt oriole I didn’t even get mona or the ttds buff 🥰🥰 slay non crits!!!!

[unkempt oriole]

ay yo 13k at lvl 69

[modern raven]

Level 6 talent tho

[unkempt oriole]

ikr

arti diffs

[modern raven]

I still don’t have a full set for him

@unkempt oriole I tried again with childe’s artifacts and he did worse LMFAO

[unkempt oriole]

LMAO WHAT

but tbf no bennett buff tho

[modern raven]

THE HYPOSTASIS IS TOO AGGRSSSOBE

It kept killing bennett and barbara so I had to waste a bennett buff to heal

[heady berry]

Dhanyawad

[urban plaza]

No worriesss

[gritty tusk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vIDJ3lT-cQ&lc=Ugwn931UF9kNHLIsITd4AaABAg

[naive wasp]

Crimson

[bleak river]

for shenhe in ayaka freeze, 4NO or 2Xatk%?

[unkempt oriole]

would do 2 att just for the base att stack lol

[ocean ember]

I think it depends on if you have another NO user

But I thiiink I'd go 4p NO anyways

[bleak river]

no NO user

[ocean ember]

Yeah, I'd def go with 4p NO

[digital pilot]

You could make higher than that, so why?

[naive wasp]

'm grinding rn

[digital pilot]

I have shim/crimson on him since he's been out of the picture after I pulled Xiao

[naive wasp]

getting that goblet is so hard

[digital pilot]

But I'm making the same dmg without reaction/crit like you just did on your vape burst dmg

[naive wasp]

i see

hmm

prob need to rebuild him

are there any other sets for him

?

[digital pilot]

Talent lvls?

[naive wasp]

8/8/6

[digital pilot]

Hence, why lol

I have him at full 8

[naive wasp]

mora

i'm curently building 2 characters

benney and ganyu

ganyu is decent now

like i said

my diluc is bad

i failed to build him

[digital pilot]

Crimson 4p, overall dmg boost
Glad 4p, AA attacker, good boost also with burst but can't do much like crimson
Emblem 4p, burst dmg
Shim 4p, same as crimson but idt it can best crimson, still

2p no makes good use for him too

[naive wasp]

no?

[digital pilot]

Noblesse

[naive wasp]

i see

hmmm

prob need to change everything

[digital pilot]

Idts

[naive wasp]

id ts?

[digital pilot]

Cr/cdm ratio?

Also you have wgs

[naive wasp]

48/138

garbage

[digital pilot]

I only have blackcliff on him

[naive wasp]

yes

that's why im pissed

i have that but build him like a dumbass

[digital pilot]

Seems fine. A little raise on crit and you're good to go

[naive wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-genshin-qiqi-genshin-qiqi-sad-gif-23361676

[naive wasp]

i see

[digital pilot]

Mine's like 49/243

Since blackcliff

Though he's been way behind

Still want to have him with wgs but standard banner always cucked me with other things I don't want

I just slap some good artis on him so he can still be useful

[naive wasp]

i see

[naive wasp]

So

It means i was lucky to have it him

Hmm

[river ore]

@naive wasp has leveled up to LEVEL 5

[naive wasp]

I'll try to grind the shitty domain again

[digital pilot]

Crimson literally is an ass domain, hence why I didn't bother to 4p him with it

[naive wasp]

What set did you put on him?

[digital pilot]

Shim/crimson

[naive wasp]

Its not bad

[digital pilot]

Only made 2p

[naive wasp]

I can convert to WT for ganyu

[naive wasp]

I see

[digital pilot]

2months of grinding, only got 2 good piece

[naive wasp]

Sounds about right

[digital pilot]

Well, emblem also sucks

[naive wasp]

?

Idk bout that

[digital pilot]

5months of grinding, only built 1 emblem user

[naive wasp]

Got 4 good pieces for xingqiu in a day

[digital pilot]

Not even fully built

[digital pilot]

Good for you then

[naive wasp]

Also for raiden

Well i borrowed some

[digital pilot]

Beidou, Mona, Xingqiu, Sara, Raiden, Xiangling

And guess who only got the build

Raiden

[naive wasp]

Waifu take priority

[naive wasp]

Borrowed his feather and circlet

The rest is her's

[digital pilot]

I'll take Beidou, if that's it

Pirate momma supremacy

[naive wasp]

Solid choice

[digital pilot]

Nice

[naive wasp]

Btw i have 2 good flowers

So i can change their crit by 5

[digital pilot]

I can see that

[naive wasp]

One with 24cd and with 19/5

I used the 19 crit on xq

And the rest u already know

sigh

hope fully genshin gave mercy on me

[digital pilot]

Imagine if hoyoverse really have that mercy

We'll be having flying cars now

[unkempt oriole]

or wings actually let u fly instead of glide

[naive wasp]

yup

[proud ravine]

Which one should I choose? Wdt?

[bleak river]

I'd personally prefer the top one

[proud ravine]

thanks!

[digital pilot]

Ever tried doing atk cup rather than electro cup?

[naive wasp]

Okay fuck you genshin

Thx for 60 def

[unkempt oriole]

Yep always

[proud ravine]

Yeah but I used her with Sara, Bennett, or Kokomi. She has high enough ATK already with them.

[ruby warren]

this raiden good

@inner vessel can you delete this,thanks!

[naive wasp]

thx

hopefully urs is better

[naive wasp]

eh wait her e is now level 9

[ruby warren]

check my not finish raiden

807517829

[naive wasp]

sure

[naive wasp]

wanna play for a bit?

i could do some tunes

[ruby warren]

i still attending some study courses maybe tonight

whats ur uid i add u

[naive wasp]

wait

Hold on

830978465

ganyu, raiden and xingqiu are by far the best

[naive wasp]

you lack tremendous CD

but er is amazing

[ruby warren]

that domain hate me giving def and stuff so yep

[naive wasp]

guess i'm lucky

amazing ganyu

[naive wasp]

ur bennet a burst support?

[ruby warren]

i build bennet randomly

[ruby warren]

if my ganyu sands is Em it will be 70/170 but i use atk% so its downgrade a lot but atk% up

[naive wasp]

its more of a burst support

[naive wasp]

atk sands is alright

i suggest you either make a burst support or a support

for support just stack hp

and use a weapon with base attack

well ur prob already know

[ruby warren]

my condition right now is poor resin F

artifact too

i already complete all exploration and events,all except achievment that is hard/too hidden so yep

no stuff to do Xd

[unkempt oriole]

dont worry, we all same 😭

rip resin, rip arti and rip content

worse, u cant even tpot now

[ruby warren]

ye need friendship cant change 2 charac when it is already max

[naive wasp]

bruh

[naive wasp]

ah fuck

[bleak river]

Defence gaming

[naive wasp]

i lost a ton of damage

fuck you genshin

it was 3k atk stars

thank fully it's not much of a diffrence

[ruby warren]

Rip.

[timid yarrow]

What does EM stand for

[tired burrow]

elemental mastery

[timid yarrow]

Ohh okay

Thanks

[fleet knot]

Use the optimizer

See what's better for ya

[jagged whale]

Hi, I have a doubt. Does the 4-set heart of depth buff work only for the char who uses the skill?

[ocean ember]

Yup, all the sets only affect the specified character, unless it's stated explicitly otherwise (or is a debuff to the enemy, not a buff to the character).

[jagged whale]

Oh, I see

Thanks for the clarification

[ocean ember]

Np!

[heady berry]

Are these good enough stats for xiao that I can stop building him now?

[ocean ember]

What's his damage?

Also, ER seems a tad low

[heady berry]

Just need a vv or shimenewa art now imo

[ocean ember]

I'd recommend 2p VV, 2p ATK set isn't as worth it imo

Specially if you happen to run him with Bennett

ATK seems fine, crit as well

But I'd up ER if possible, as he needs the uptime

[heady berry]

No worries about er he's always with jean for particles and healing

Also should I crown his burst?

[ocean ember]

Are you able to burst off CD still? Even with Jean, that seems a bit low, but yeah x'D

[ocean ember]

If you like him enough, yeah

Crowns aren't much of a damage increase tbh, they're more of you really liking the char

[heady berry]

My first proper dps, so my heart says yes but the resource cost says keep dreaming

[river ore]

@heady berry has leveled up to LEVEL 1

[heady berry]

Anyways thanks

[ocean ember]

You're welcome xD

[mossy barn]

Is 53:150 a good crit ratio for yanfei?

[idle granite]

its okay

could be a bit higher crit rate, but artfact rolls can be hard to come by

[naive wasp]

What's that

[fleet knot]

https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/#/

[steady stream]

what is resource cost

Just do it

[heady berry]

I would love to but that means I have to neglect other characters like ei, xiangling,xingqiu,jean etc

[bleak river]

Well with time you'll get them up

[steady stream]

Bro i triple crowned miko ei instead of crowning my hutao eula ganyu and my xiao xl xq are all barely built

Play the game the way you like.

If you like to follow meta and that gives u satisfaction or make u happy then go ahead

[heady berry]

Props to you m8 that's really cool
And i don't play meta that's too much work lok

lol

[urban plaza]

My xiao is double crowned <3

[bleak river]

My xiao has a sword and heals

[gritty tusk]

Spiral Abyss 2.6 Floor 12 - 9⭐ | Ayatao C0 Ayato x C1 Hu Tao Team & Taser-Freeze C3 Raiden Team
https://youtu.be/w3a2tknQWKs

[urban plaza]

Is he anemo or cryo?😂

[bleak river]

Anemo XD

[urban plaza]

XD

I want your xiao

[bleak river]

I did realise it was ambiguous

[urban plaza]

I don't have them

[bleak river]

Nah my xiao is my sis mdps at this point

[urban plaza]

Yessss

[bleak river]

Mf does more than unbuilt yanfei

[urban plaza]

lmaoo

[mossy barn]

Is this good?

[bleak river]

Decent

[mossy barn]

what should I change?

[bleak river]

If you're running with battery, you can replace the atk sands with a better one or an em sands if you're running vape yanfei

[ocean ember]

I'm assuming vape Yanfei due to 4p SR

You need more EM

Attack is also low, though I assume you're running with Bennett

Crit rate is also rather low, but passable

[bleak river]

I missed the 4shim somehow XD

[mossy barn]

This is why I need Lost prayer

wait what's the ideal crit ratio?

[bleak river]

1:2 or 1:3

But honestly 50-70cr then pile on the cd

[ocean ember]

I'd say minimum 70, baare minimum 60 CR

But yeah, ideally 1:2 with a minimum of CR

So something like 40:80 isn't good even if it's 1:2 xD

[bleak river]

Yanfei c2 gives some cr if the enemy is below half XD

[ocean ember]

Or something like 40:200 is also not good, even if it's a lot (relatively) of CDMG

[ocean ember]

Ah, I meant in general xD

Generally speaking, 50 CR is low

[bleak river]

Mhmm

[mossy barn]

I hope I get the Lost Prayer instead of another weapon in standard

[mossy barn]

tbh this is why I want percentage instead of numbers so it would be more specific

[ocean ember]

1:2 is generally a good reference, just take into account that minimum CR should usually aim to be 70%

[mossy barn]

so like 70:140?

Shit Im broke😔

[ocean ember]

That'd be nice enough, though you usually want as more CDMG as you can one you reach 70% CR

1:2 is more like the minimum to be considered decent

Though, for example, 70:140 would be pretty good for a character that doesn't ascends with crit and doesn't use a crit weapon

Like XL on catch, for instance

Would be specially good for her, for example, since she has to consider EM and ER as well

[severe vine]

hi can i ask sum???

is this good for sucrose????

[ocean ember]

So if you got 70:140 on XL, with good ER (depends on the team, but usually at least 150-170% ER) and at least 200 EM, that'd be a really, really good build

[ocean ember]

Seems good, but can't judge before levelling

[tired burrow]

praying for ur rolls in em and 0 rolls in def

[severe vine]

thanks everyone for answering! <333

[ocean ember]

You're aiming to have as much EM as possible, and ER as second priority but her burst tends to not be that important so mostly EM

[severe vine]

is this good enough?

[unkempt oriole]

eh- passable

max it first

would be great if last roll dropped in em

[severe vine]

done

nah atk was the last drop T,T

[bleak river]

still usable

[severe vine]

thank you

how about the feather one?

[bleak river]

the feather?

[bleak river]

you can keep unlevelled for now, until you get one with em sub

[severe vine]

okokoko thanks

is this good right?

ER or EM?

[bleak river]

just em

[severe vine]

okoko thank you

???????

[unkempt oriole]

em

defnitely

[severe vine]

def r the substats

is it ok for her?

[unkempt oriole]

hmm atm u can use these for now

until u get a better 5 stars

[severe vine]

okkkkkkkkkk thanks for answering

imma level up it

[unkempt oriole]

its alright~~~

[severe vine]

is level 10 ok?

[unkempt oriole]

yea use it for foddering in the future

[severe vine]

or 20?

[unkempt oriole]

its okay

4 star max 16

[severe vine]

crt fmg is the last roll T,T

is crt rate good for the last?

[bleak river]

for now, sure

but once you get em pieces, give them to her

[urban plaza]

Depends on what build you're going for ig

[severe vine]

okkkkkkkk thank youuuuu

[urban plaza]

EM succ is different than Crit succ

But with her kit, having EM sounds better

Because she can share her EM

And ig the crit thingy depends on your overall stats too

and whether you're lacking in Cr or CD

[severe vine]

is this piece good for bennett?

[bleak river]

decent ig

[severe vine]

thankyouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[high haven]

Mmmmmmm

Who is this good for

I have Ayaka and Ganyu

[urban plaza]

What Ganyu build would you go for?

Also, you can just decide based on who needs it more

[high haven]

For my ganyu I still need a crit hat

4 pc Wanderer's

Is my ganyu build

[urban plaza]

Ah melt ganyu

Then yes you do need CR

Look at the overall stats and who needs it more

If the other (assuming) as ER- Then Ayayaya
If it has EM, then more suited for Ganyu

Assuming it is nice on the overall too

[bleak river]

I want that so badly

[ruby warren]

Bro i only got cd,cr is gone to no where 💀

[hazy bough]

what does yoimiya need

[river ore]

Yoimiya

DPS 👍

**
****Regarding Weapon Choices:
Rust: At higher refinements, **this weapon can **outperform a low refined Amos' Bow and Skyward Harp. **
**Hamayumi: **If you're using Shimenawa's Reminiscence (4), **this weapon doesn't synergize well with that artifact set due to its passive. **
**Prototype Crescent: **Note that you want to proc the weapon passive by doing a quick charged shot on the enemy's weakspot for this weapon to be good.
**Slingshot: **With a large amount of external ATK buffs, this weapon is competitive to R1 Rust. Note that you have to be in range for Slingshot's passive and have good uptime on the ATK buffs.

**Regarding Artifacts:
Crimson Witch of Flames (2) +18% ATK set (2): **The best generalist set on Yoimiya as it is competitive with the other options for personal damage and works in every situation.
Shimenawa's Reminiscence (4): Offers more personal damage on Yoimiya but it sacrifices her Elemental Burst uptime which translates to lower overall team DPS due to not being able to fully benefit from her Ascension 4 passive.
Crimson Witch of Flames (4): The go-to artifact set for Vaporize focused Pyro carries, excels over the other options especially on a reaction focused team comp.
**Lavawalker (4): **Good option on a mono Pyro team comp where Yoimiya can have 100% uptime on the artifact passive.

Regarding Mainstats:
Elemental Mastery: A good option if Yoimiya is triggering Vaporise and/or Overload. Having Bennett in the team favours Elemental Mastery sands slightly more than ATK sands, however it is recommended to just use whichever has better substats.

**Regarding Talent Priorities:
**Elemental Skill scales very poorly which is why it is the least priority. If you do not care about her Elemental Burst damage output, you can prioritize Elemental Skill over Elemental Burst, but Normal Attack talent still has the most priority since it's the main source of Yoimiya's damage.

MAIN STATS

Sands: ATK% / Elemental Mastery
Goblet: Pyro DMG
Circlet: Crit Rate / DMG

SUB STATS

1. Crit Rate / DMG
2. ATK%
3. Elemental Mastery
4. Energy Recharge
5. Flat ATK

TALENT PRIORITY

1. Normal Attack
2. Burst
3. Skill

WEAPON

1. Thundering Pulse (5★)
2. Polar Star (5★)
3. Skyward Harp (5★)
4. Amos' Bow (5★)
5. Rust (4★)
6. Hamayumi (4★)
7. Prototype Crescent (4★)
8. Slingshot (3★)
9. The Viridescent Hunt (4★)
10. Blackcliff Warbow (4★)

ARTIFACT

1. Crimson Witch of Flames (2) +18% ATK Set (2)
2. Shimenawa's Reminiscence (4)
3. Crimson Witch of Flames (4)
4. Lavawalker (4)

[river ore]

Kamisato Ayaka

DPS 👍

Kamisato Ayaka is a pretty straightforward DPS that deals most of her damage from her Elemental Burst. She has very high scalings on her burst at the cost of it being 80 energy. You will likely need** another Cryo battery on the team **to provide energy for her (Diona, Kaeya, Rosaria, etc). She has a special dash (like Mona) and after she dashes, she will get a Cryo infusion on her Normal Attacks. Ensure you always have this bonus active to maximise your rotation damage.

She can be played on a permafreeze team (paired with a Hydro enabler such as Mona, Xingqiu, or even Barbara) where she could gain huge benefits from the Blizzard Strayer (4) artifact set. Blizzard Strayer (4) piece gives a huge amount of stats on a Freeze team, so try to get this artifact set as fast as you can. Her Elemental Burst also sticks on frozen enemies, but it also has a small hitbox so you need to position it well so that it can hit multiple bigger enemies.

Regarding Weapon Choices:
Aquila Favonia: While Aquila has Physical Damage% as a main stat, which is basically useless on Ayaka, it is still a good statstick as it has a high base ATK and ATK% buff from the passive.
Primordial Jade Cutter: With Blizzard Strayer (4) and Cryo Resonance, this weapon overcrits, so avoid getting Crit Rate substats.
Skyward Blade, Blackcliff Longsword, The Black Sword, Amenoma Kageuchi: These 4 weapons will give a similar output, so it's not worth getting or building another when you already have one. Depends on how much Energy Recharge you're running, how much stacks your Blackcliff has, how much time you're gonna spend doing Normal Attacks, and how much you value the passive on Amenoma since it gives you leeway in building Energy Recharge, one can be better than the other. If you're running Skyward Blade or Amenoma Kageuchi (especially with higher refines), avoid getting Energy Recharge substats as their stats / passives assist in elemental burst generation significantly.**
The Flute:** Offers slightly more damage potential than** Amenoma Kageuchi**, with the tradeoff being losing Kageuchi's energy generation. Decide for yourself which is better for your team and rotations.

MAIN STATS

Sands: ATK%
Goblet: Cryo DMG
Circlet: Crit Damage / ATK%

SUB STATS

1. Crit DMG
2. ATK%
3. Energy Recharge
4. Crit Rate
5. Flat ATK

TALENT PRIORITY

1. Burst
2. Normal Attack
3. Skill

WEAPON

1. Mistsplitter Reforged (5★)
2. Summit Shaper [S5] (5★)
3. Primordial Jade Cutter (5★)
4. Aquila Favonia (5★)
5. Skyward Blade (5★)
6. Blackcliff Longsword [S1] (4★)
7. The Black Sword (4★)
8. Amenoma Kageuchi (4★)
9. The Flute (4★)
10. Harbinger of Dawn [R5] (3★)

ARTIFACT

1. Blizzard Strayer (4)
2. Blizzard Strayer (2) +18% ATK Set (2)
3. Gladiator's Finale (2) Shimenawa's Reminiscence (2)
4. Blizzard Strayer (2) Noblesse Oblige (2)

ABILITY TIP

Ayaka's Charged Attack, Elemental Skill and Elemental Burst hits enemies inside Venti's Elemental Burst.

Her Elemental Burst also stays in place on frozen enemies and slightly knocks enemies away when they're not frozen.

[bleak river]

#🤖・bot-spam

[short void]

Sorry mb

[naive wasp]

Nvm when i said i hate mihoyo

I love mihoyo

:3

[heady berry]

What kinda phone do you use that doesn't fry itself while recording genshin??

[urban plaza]

iPhone

[urban plaza]

Can I suggest something?

[naive wasp]

Go ahead

Criticize me if you want

[urban plaza]

Use his skill X3 before burst

[naive wasp]

He's not 4 crimson

[urban plaza]

Ah

Then my bad
sorry

[naive wasp]

2 crimson and 2 shime

[urban plaza]

Makes sense

[loud grove]

kiri i almost gave in almost

i almost

[naive wasp]

It's fine, appreciate it

[urban plaza]

Do it

[loud grove]

i was so close to texting you give urself a point

but

i didnt

get the resin

[urban plaza]

You should get that resin though🥺

[loud grove]

🤬

ur not helping me now

[urban plaza]

😂😂😂

[weary ocean]

which one should i use? with the 42 cv flower im standing 85 and 145 but with the other one im 71 and 162

[weary ocean]

you had pretty low roles unfortunately

[severe vine]

wdym low roles?

[weary ocean]

on the substats

[gilded dock]

*rolls

[weary ocean]

yeah i mean rolls, my bad lol

[weary ocean]

and i suggest that you look mainly for hp perc (healing) and er for the substats and mainstat (circlets etc.) for bennett, bcs his buffs only scale of your base atk, meaning you have to lvl your bennett and your weapon. (if you didnt already know)

but that piece is useable for the start ig

[severe vine]

thank you!! <3333

[weary ocean]

np

[unkempt oriole]

Use this

The first one i meant

Average dmg is higher with first artis

[weary ocean]

thanks

need to get a bit more em

184, i need atleast 220

my sands is for the trash can

if we speak about diluc terms

[river ore]

Predator

A uniquely-designed bow. This should not belong in this world.

Strong Strike

Effective only on the following platform: \n"PlayStation Network"\nDealing Cryo DMG to opponents increases this character's Normal and Charged Attack DMG by 10% for 6s. This effect can have a maximum of 2 stacks. Additionally, when Aloy equips Predator, ATK is increased by 66.

Type

Bow

Rarity

4 ⭐

Source

Playstation exclusive

Base ATK

510

Secondary Stat

ATK% 41.3%

​

​

Ascensions Material

Narukami ​ ​ Prism ​ ​ Arrowhead

※ Stats numbers are at max level

[loud grove]

#🤖・bot-spam :)

[quasi abyss]

look at that atk

[gritty tusk]

NO AYAKA? NO PROBLEM! USE THIS CRYO DPS KAEDEHARA KAZUHA COMP | KAZUHA TEAM COMP SHOWCASE
https://youtu.be/T0BpjqWPnTs

[urban plaza]

What if I don't have Kazuha either😭

[modern raven]

Had to upload to tiktok to remove bg sound

Xiao's updated build

He can now do 30k regular and 40k-60k crits

[modern raven]

Chongyun is the answer

[urban plaza]

I seee

[wispy thunder]

atk goblet ?

[modern raven]

It was always an atk goblet 😔

[barren badge]

ehe

finally

hu tao got a pyro goblet

[bleak river]

Niceee

[barren badge]

but i don't have any shimenawa hp sands ;-;

[silent tulip]

Which one do i go with?
Both are shit, both ways I have enough CR

Or i could go 2 shim 2 bs

I still have enough CR because my Shim pieces are actually good

[fleet knot]

Is that hexa attack? God damn

That actually could have been one of the best artifacts on your account if it had a crit main stat

But an hp circlet god rolling attack seems significantly harder to use

[fleet knot]

Imo this is definitely not worth unless your pieces are SUPER good

You can always check with the optimizer

[verbal harbor]

does anybody know which one is better for klee?

[unkempt oriole]

First

[verbal harbor]

okayy thank you

[unkempt oriole]

Welc

[oblique pelican]

Tbh, the second seems better. A 4 substat flower with every roll into offensive stats

The first one's a 3 liner with one roll into def

[bleak river]

Second if you need more atk

[severe vine]

Hi can I ask what is the best set for ningguang and main/sub stats as well ??

[oblique pelican]

2× archaic Petra+ 2× 18% atk
Atk/geo bonus/crit
Crit>atk

[severe vine]

Imma build her as main dps

[oblique pelican]

Weapon: Widsith

[severe vine]

oh

i dont have widsith

only Skyward

[bleak river]

Dodoco works right?

[severe vine]

is it good?

[bleak river]

Skyward should be fine(?)

Apparently best in slot XD

[severe vine]

okoko thank you for answering my questions!

[naive wasp]

Bro that's so good

[coarse glacier]

anyone know ayato builds or teams

no c6 yunjin

[naive wasp]

Yep

Kazuha hurts

Prob sucrose is okay

[bleak river]

or ayato sucrose/kazu xl benny also works

[naive wasp]

Yeah

Its up to you

[bleak river]

ayato sucrose/jean fischl beidou also works

[naive wasp]

@coarse glacier

[coarse glacier]

owh thanks hhahahah

[naive wasp]

Np

[coarse glacier]

rip i need to train fischl

[naive wasp]

If u use lions roar then yeah

[coarse glacier]

maybe gonna get bp

lion roar and black sword

[urban plaza]

Lions is not a BP weapon though

[coarse glacier]

ya ik

but black gives crit rate

[bleak river]

lions roar gives dmg bonus

[urban plaza]

I have an R4 lions

Cant wait to build keqing

[coarse glacier]

act or er main stat

att

[bleak river]

for what?

[coarse glacier]

.

[urban plaza]

the sand is ATK in the sheet

Why'd you go ER

[naive wasp]

Sigh

[coarse glacier]

[coarse glacier]

shit my eyes

[urban plaza]

XD

[long hare]

for nuketao screenshot dmg do you go 4pc CWoF or 2pc CW 2pc noblesse

[static echo]

how do you build your yunjin?

i have her c6 and cant decide if 4pc opulence is better or 2pc opulence and 2pc emblem, im using her with ayato, xiangling and raiden

and which is better? r5 favonius lance or deathmatch?

[urban plaza]

Fav Lance
Deathmatch is for dps builds Ig

I think her BiS is Husk Of Opulent Dreams 4pc

The Albedo set

[river ore]

Yun Jin

SUPPORT 👍

Yun Jin is a Support character for Normal Attack focused characters who can deal off-field damage via her Elemental Burst. Yun Jin's Elemental Burst grants nearby party members 30 stacks of additional flat damage bonus on Normal Attacks which scales with Yun Jin's current DEF. This means that external DEF buffs like from Gorou's Elemental Skill and/or Burst doesn't provide much to Yun Jin since it only buffs active characters and not off-field ones.

Regarding Weapon Choices:
**Favonius Lance: **With this weapon, try to aim for some Crit Rate stats to trigger the weapon passive reliably.
Kitain Cross Spear: Although the EM mainstat isn't useful for Yun Jin, the passive decreases her Energy Recharge requirements by alot, especially at higher refinements. **It can reduce her ER% reqs from around ~20% at R1 to ~70% at R5. Note that she must cast Elemental Burst first before Skill, as the passive drains 3 energy initially when Skill is cast. **If you only care about the Energy Recharge, this weapon can be left at level 1 while still getting full effect from the passive.

Regarding Artifact Main Stats and Substats Priority:
Crit Rate should only be considered when Yun Jin is equpping Favonius Lance to reliably proc the passive.

MAIN STATS

Sands: DEF% / Energy Recharge
Goblet: DEF%
Circlet: DEF% / Crit Rate

SUB STATS

1. DEF%
2. Energy Recharge
3. Flat DEF
4. Crit Rate

TALENT PRIORITY

1. Burst
2. Skill

WEAPON

1. Favonius Lance (4★)
2. Engulfing Lightning (5★)
3. Kitain Cross Spear (4★)
4. Prototype Starglitter (4★)

ARTIFACT

1. Husk of Opulent Dreams (4)
2. Husk of Opulent Dreams (2) Emblem of Severed Fate (2)
3. Noblesse Oblige (4)

[static echo]

yeah but i dont know if i want to completly ignore crit dmg and crit rate and go all def or go def but maintain decent crit stats

[urban plaza]

She isn't doing personal damage that much tbh

She is providing buffs via her burst

[loud grove]

poop

boob

[urban plaza]

You do need CR with Fav Lance though

[static echo]

thanks!:)

[urban plaza]

To proc the passive i.e.

[static echo]

i know i know

[urban plaza]

XD just saying because I realised it a few days back😂

[gilded dock]

if you want to optimize her DMG grant
Husk 4 or 2 Husk 2 great Defender's WIll
or 2 Husk 2 Emblem
and Fav Lance with DEF DEF CR is a must more or less

if you go 2 Defender's Will, make sure they have 3 lines and are on the flower and feather

[quasi abyss]

its funny cause zhognli is my shielder

[modern raven]

do you believe 90/90 is worth it for diona

or any other shielder/healer for that matter

[ocean ember]

Not really for Diona, and imo, if your Zhongli is just a shieldbot, it isn't needed either. You could make a case for Koko, but outside of that, imo, no.

[quasi abyss]

with xiangling and bennet kaeya can do about 5k-8k on his burst

SKILL

with bennet and xiangling his burst does 3k per icicle

• his sword does 2k-3k

so he’s just amazing

[modern raven]

what's an artifact setup that can work well with both melt and freeze ganyu?

or is there no point in looking for that

[timid sphinx]

There's 2

2-set Blizzard's Strayer + 2-set any ATK% artifacts.

Unless if you want to do RNG, then go ahead with 4-set Wanderer's Troupe and make sure your Crit Rate is more.

[weary ocean]

that is what i want to see everyday when i start farming first round of the day

[river ore]

@weary ocean has leveled up to LEVEL 1

[hasty steppe]

Beautiful

[modern raven]

Is this a good Yanfei?

I couldnt get good shimenawa artifacts

My abyss team, currently building them

[ocean ember]

Unless you're doing overload Yanfei, which isn't the team you showcased, you need more ATK and crit in general, 27 CR is waay too low

[modern raven]

Im trying but im out of artifacts

[ocean ember]

Gl with farming in that case, can be really tough at times x'D

[bleak river]

you love to see it

[gritty tusk]

Spiral Abyss 2.6 Floor 12 - 9⭐ | Duo C0 Ayato C0 Kazuha & Trio C3 Raiden Shogun Zhongli C4 Rosaria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP5H9QjT9c4

[unkempt oriole]

niceeeeeeeee

[drowsy pine]

is this good for ayato?

[bleak river]

No unleveled artifact is good

But this has potential

[urban plaza]

Potentially, yes
but we can not know until you level it

But all 4 stats are amazing

And ATK% instead of ATK, so a win

[grand kestrel]

yeh, even if it dumps all of it into ER it's still a valuable arti

[drowsy pine]

what level should it be to determine?

[grand kestrel]

20 😛

though, if you get 2-3 rolls into CD it's definitely a keeper.

regardless of what else it rolls

I mean, it's a keeper no matter what it rolls, those stats are baller.

[urban plaza]

^

If it rolls sole-ly into ER
I would still keep it ig- sinec he does use his burst
And you can get the required crit from elsewhere

[silent tulip]

not bad ngl

[grand kestrel]

you got a full spread

[fallow lake]

is 4 pc echoes or shimenawa btr for yoimiya

i have thundering pulse

[bleak river]

echoes unless you have shim alr farmed

[oblique pelican]

Team comps for f11 chamber 1??

Istg this is the first time i am struggling with F11

[timid sphinx]

Not for me

[urban plaza]

My account ran
Shogun, Venti, Benny, XL
and
ZL, Xiao, Suc and Koko
If this helps...

[oblique pelican]

What was you tower's hp at the end of the run?

[timid sphinx]

60% minimal

[urban plaza]

I got 9 stars, if that's what you mean

Seraph did my abyss jsjkhaksdh

[oblique pelican]

59% is the best I can afford rn

[unkempt oriole]

well u kind of need cc for at least one of the chamber

else u took too much dmg for monolith

[unkempt oriole]

this comp get like 78% left iirc

[lavish needle]

Hello guys

Should I get venti or Kazuha

Because I’m at 65 pity with 20 pulls

[lavish needle]

Guaranteed five star also

[urban plaza]

Both have a diff purpose

Depends hence

[gilded dock]

kazuha isn't even confirmed, and may take another 3 months.
but venti is lackluster and not working with melee units

[gritty tusk]

Spiral Abyss 2.6 Floor 12 - 9⭐ | Physical Zhongli DPS Team & C0 Ayato International Team
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9aZSIBs84w

[unkempt oriole]

Do a 4 anemo team on f12-2-2

😂

[bleak river]

How much swirling you want?
Yes.

[modern raven]

@rare dome

[rare dome]

You called ?

[modern raven]

Ask them abt yunjin builds early game

[rare dome]

You want me to ping everyone ?

[modern raven]

i gtg sleep

[rare dome]

Just to ask for build ?

[modern raven]

NO :"D

[rare dome]

Oh.

[modern raven]

just type here, dont ping anyone, theyre gonna respond anyways

[rare dome]

Okay then.

[jagged blaze]

hi guys

[rare dome]

I would appreciate some help with building my C1 Yun Jin, I'm ar 28 so please give me a f2p build. And she's lvl 22 rn.

[urban plaza]

I found this off HoYoLabs, can't confirm the rights and wrongs though

It says 40%+ CR for Fav Lance- to trigger its passive
So in case you don't get the desired CR, you can try for CR circlet

[lavish needle]

Maybe I’ll go for Kazuha

Because my Ayaka is really copium

[gilded dock]

ngl, whoever made that graphic is great in designing these

[oblique pelican]

Your first time seeing one of those?

[gilded dock]

from this specific person? yes

it's just so simplistic and playful as opposed to trying to be the highest authority

[quasi abyss]

yanfei nuke build?

[bleak river]

Yanfei doesn't rly nuke

[quasi abyss]

oh

[bleak river]

Very sustained charged atks

[unkempt oriole]

minigun yanfei

pewpewpew

[bleak river]

Minigun would be normals tho

Yanfei more like pew pew pew bonk

[unkempt oriole]

true

[bleak river]

Or pew pew bonk

[rare dome]

I'll take this into consideration, thenks for helping !

[urban plaza]

No worries <3

[quick trench]

The sauce for these infographics?

[quasi abyss]

pew pew bonk!

[quick trench]

Ah nvm saw it

[urban plaza]

If you mean their account,

[verbal harbor]

can someone tell me if the skyward atlas or the lost prayer to the sacred winds is better for klee? (sorry if i worded that wrong)

[river ore]

Klee

DPS 👍

Extremely squishy, Klee requires great positioning. Being tiny, this is hard to achieve. Constant jumping during your Charged Attacks can help.

Regarding Weapon Choice:
Lost Prayer to the Sacred Winds: Bennett buff/ Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayer's buff + Noblesse Oblige (4) will push Lost Prayer ahead of Skyward Atlas and Memory of Dust
Dodoco Tales: On equal refinements, Widsith and Solar Pearl are better than Dodoco Tales, but when assuming [R5] Dodoco Tales vs [R1]-[R3] Widsith/Pearl, Dodoco Tales is better. Note that Bennett buff / Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayer's buff + Noblesse Oblige (4) buff may push Widsith and Solar Pearl above Dodoco Tales, even at low refinements.

Regarding Artifact Sets:
**Lavawalker (4): **Klee's kit makes it harder to utilize Vaporize and Melt the same way another pyro carry would, but her constant pyro application makes Lavawalkers a viable set. See KleefulFrame's great number breakdown here.
**Crimson Witch of Flames (4): **This set is best used on a Vaporize Klee, but do note that due to Klee's fast Pyro application from all of her kits, she may not be able to vape most of her Normal/ Charged Attacks.
**Wanderer's Troupe (4): **Wanderer's Troupe increases the Charged Attack by another 35% Damage Bonus. It can serve as a decent DPS choice but due to how clunky Klee's attack animations are, it's hard to put this in actual practise as it requires you to dodge more and consume more stamina, not to mention how the DPS gets caught up by the other builds mentioned above.

MAIN STATS

Sands: ATK%
Goblet: Pyro DMG
Circlet: Crit Rate / DMG

SUB STATS

1. Crit Rate / DMG
2. ATK%
3. Elemental Mastery
4. Energy Recharge
5. Flat ATK

TALENT PRIORITY

1. Normal Attack
2. Burst
3. Skill

WEAPON

1. Skyward Atlas (5★)
2. Memory of Dust (5★)
3. Lost Prayer to the Sacred Winds (5★)
4. Dodoco Tales [R5] (4★)
5. Solar Pearl (4★)
6. The Widsith (4★)
7. Blackcliff Agate (4★)
8. Mappa Mare (4★)
9. Magic Guide (3★)

ARTIFACT

1. Crimson Witch of Flames (2) +18% ATK Set (2)
2. Lavawalker (4)
3. Crimson Witch of Flames (4)
4. Crimson Witch of Flames (2) Noblesse Oblige (2)
5. Wanderer's Troupe (4)

ABILITY TIP

Klee's Attacks have a 50% chance of spawning a floating star. Floating star removes the stamina cost for the next Charged Attack and increases 50% of its damage.

[urban plaza]

^ Skyward

Although read the part about "weapon choices"

and In which case Lost prayer will overtake Skyward

[modern raven]

for the morgana, should i use sucrose burst before or after ganyu then mona's?

additionally, should i be opening the combo with diona's shield/burst?

[junior crest]

you need to ganyu burst first

[urban plaza]

The one I saw included
Diona EQ to apply cryo
Venti EQ for swirl, infusion, CC and VV debuff
Mona EQ to wet- hence freeze, and then apply omen
Ganyu QE and then charge shot

Here E is skill, Q is burst
Unsure about this, but typically you wait 2.5 seconds before switching out of Mona

[muted ravine]

I feel like I fucked up my build somehow while I was playing around with Artifacts cus now my Yanfei can't reach 2k. And Lisa barely does 3k 😭😭😰

LIKE WHAT HAPPENED

[balmy aspen]

I have the whole gladiators artifact set for my razor

👍

[acoustic wagon]

yall should i use the new artifact set on yoimiya the ayato artifact one

[grand kestrel]

I imagine it makes for some pretty special spikiness.

[bleak river]

It should work, but vaping yoimiya will be even more unreliable

[gritty tusk]

NO AYAKA (PART 2)? NO PROBLEM! USE THIS ZHONGLI CRYO DPS TEAM COMP | ZHONGLI TEAM COMP SHOWCASE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMlexbM4poI

[bleak river]

Look at the people trying to subvert ayaka

[grand kestrel]

I mean, Ayaka is not mandatory.

she's just the next best thing to a cryo catalyst.

[bleak river]

literally, a catalyst without targeting issues......oh wait her burst

[grand kestrel]

without targeting issues, or range.

[bleak river]

And also 81 cryo dmg bonus just from herself (with gob and bs)

[ocean ember]

I think this is by far the best Xiao build I've seen, as even ER is decent (could be better I guess but yeah xD). Ofc not mine, just saw it on a server.

[bleak river]

that's a very nice (and very expensive) xiao

unholy rolls tho

[ocean ember]

Apparently, it only took them 5k resin, or so said who posted the image (who also wasn't the owner of this Xiao)

But yeah, some pieces are insanely good

Most of them, the only not as insane (but still pretty great imo) is the goblet but it's an on piece goblet so xD Guess the flower cooould be slightly better but honestly it's great. All the damn pieces are great.

[naive wasp]

really good for ayato ngl

[wise oak]

FUCKIBG KYS

UR JOKING

c6 XIAO

[ocean ember]

It's not mine, as I stated

[wise oak]

oh

WELL THEY CAN KTS

BRO THAT CRIT RATIO

THE CONS

[ocean ember]

But the constellation has nothing to do with the build, which was what I was looking at xD

[wise oak]

THE ARK

[wise oak]

idfc about the build

THATS

C6 XIAO

IM CHOCKING

[ocean ember]

C6 isn't as impressive

You just need money xD

[wise oak]

as a ftp

[ocean ember]

Build though, needs RNG

[wise oak]

its incredible 😭

[wise oak]

AND THE ROLLS R FUCKING GODLIKE

[ocean ember]

Yeah, all the artefact are at the very least really great lmao

Hope I had like half their luck xD

[rare dome]

Any recommendations for a build for Xiangling ? She's lvl 28 C0 and I'm ar 29. Please give a build for me that's f2p friendly.

[ocean ember]

Tbh, any build outside of weapons is f2p friendly, it just requires time grinding domains (for a good set, the average is 2-3 months)

Catch is free (you need to fish a lot though) and it's her BiS 4* weapon, and pretty close to 5* options afaik

Her BiS set is 4p EoSF

[rare dome]

I see . .

[ocean ember]

As for main stats, EM or ER sands (if running Catch, usually EM; could run ATK but she's always ran with Bennett who regularly wears 4p NO plus his own buff, so build him well), pyro goblet and crit circlet, usually crit rate since at least 50% crit rate would be recommended (so low because Catch gives 12% on burst, but I'd still recommend at least 60%)

Look for crit, EM, ER and attack substats

She usually needs around 160-180% ER, and that is pretty important, so prioritise ER over everything else until you can burst off cooldown

[rare dome]

May I say smth ?

[ocean ember]

Sure

[rare dome]

I ar 29 and a lil new so everything you just said just confused me-.

Apologies.

[ocean ember]

This reminds me, you can't really farm for artefacts until 45

[unkempt oriole]

ah if u are ar29, u can literally relax for now

[ocean ember]

AR 45 I mean

[unkempt oriole]

just use anything available

[rare dome]

Is that so ?

[ocean ember]

So yeah, for now you can put on her whatever you have available

[unkempt oriole]

enjoy the storyline

explore and unlock the TPs are ur priorities in low ar

[ocean ember]

I mean, you can farm artefacts before AR45, it's not recommended because you only get a guaranteed 5* artefact until that AR

[rare dome]

Oh.

[unkempt oriole]

the game starts at AR45 actually jk

[rare dome]

I guess relaxing a bit is fine.

[ocean ember]

And yeah, long term, only 5* artefacts (with some exceptions, as Exile, Instructor's and sometimes Scholar as a 2 piece set can be very valuable, and they're 4* artefacts) are worth levelling

[rare dome]

lol I'll enjoy being mid ar for now then

[ocean ember]

Yeah, don't worry too much about building for now xD

[rare dome]

I only have keqing and c2 Yun jin, guess I'm fine.

[unkempt oriole]

yea even if u wanted to build characters, u probably cant ascend much anyways

[rare dome]

lol, sure.

[unkempt oriole]

just level up them, it'll do pretty much everything for u in lower AR

[rare dome]

Kinda can't. Keqing is lvl 50 and Yun jin is lvl 40.

Kinda hard tbh, I'm at the lvl to defeat childe-.

[ocean ember]

If anything, you can be on the lookout for provisional Wanderer's Troupe, Exile, Instructor's, Scholar and Berserker pieces (as 2 set pieces, so a combination of 2 of those sets and any for the fifth slot), if you have any that has decent stats. A tip: main stats are generally more important than getting the set bonuses.

[rare dome]

Ohh . .Oki !

[lavish needle]

Is alley flash or iron sting better for Kazuha

Em build

[unkempt oriole]

iron sting

[naive wasp]

alley flash is good for those who need a high base atk

one such is bennet

[lavish needle]

I’m a Bennett main lol

So I’ll put iron sting for more em

[lavish needle]

Which is beneficial to Ayaka (she is really )

[naive wasp]

it's up to you tbh

and yes bennet dps does require em

[wise oak]

iron sting

[lavish needle]

Thanks for your opinion 🙂

[ocean ember]

Iron Sting isn't good on Ayaka at all, she has no use for EM

[bleak river]

I can't even follow the conversation

[sleek phoenix]

aint they were talking abt kazuha..

[rustic plank]

I'll assume it's abt kazuha's talent not the weapon itself

[ocean ember]

Ah, that makes sense, yeah

[rustic plank]

Also reverse melt ayaka do need EM, if 80k melt is pretty easy

[ocean ember]

Reverse melt Ayaka is generally not viable

Is more of a meme build, like crit Kokomi xD

[gilded dock]

Reverse-melt ayaka works with Haran and Echoes, but you can only really use your normals

[ocean ember]

I kinda doubt it'd be better than freeze still, but I guess it'd work better in stuff like bosses xD

[gilded dock]

160k normals

[ocean ember]

And in any case, it's still very specific in what it needs so I wouldn't recommend it

[oblique pelican]

If it works, it works!

[ocean ember]

What Haran refinement? And she still has ICD

[gilded dock]

R1 was that on seka iirc

you just gotta melt the EO proc

[ocean ember]

Versus 20x 50ks on her burst if invested well enough, though I imagine it's higher with higher investment/stuff like Shenhe

[rustic plank]

As long as the enemy doesn't jump around it's much faster to kill than freeze, though you really need much more higher investment due to losing crit rate which freeze provides

[gilded dock]

another big issue I've learned is that EO is affected by your ping

but people with low ping could prob get streaks of proccing EO 3-4 times in a row

[ocean ember]

Good luck with RNG I guess, though idk how bad it actually is xD

[gilded dock]

I'm going with freeze since I failed to get haran (or elegy)

[ocean ember]

Don't really don't get the isn't jumping around thing. xD If it's a small mob that moves a lot, freeze would be better. If the thing doesn't move, it's also easier to set up for freeze. Now if it's a boss that moves a lot, I see melt being more useful than freeze.

[lavish needle]

nono i meant kazuha with ayaka

kazumann can buff ayaka with his amount of em

i know my grammar is bad lol

[modern raven]

I farmed husk for noelle

she needs def for her shield right?

[idle granite]

yes

then at c6 her attacks get buffed with defense

[modern raven]

i have her no cons

C0

:"D

i have her with 3pc Husk

and 2pc Noblesse

i also gave her a geo dmg bonus goblet

[winter jewel]

hi hi

[idle granite]

hi

[balmy aspen]

What artifacts are good for sucrose?

[unkempt oriole]

VV

Most anemo characters are good with VV

[balmy aspen]

Whats VV??😭

[urban plaza]

Virdescent Veneerer set

The domain "Valley of Remembrance" in Mondstadt

[unkempt oriole]

Dem Kiri be fast at typing

[urban plaza]

Typically you wanna build EM-EM-EM Sucrose

Sac frags

[urban plaza]

lmaoo

[drowsy pine]

Why doesnt ayato want elemental mastery? (as much)

[fleet knot]

em only benefits damage done with reactions

ayato basically doesnt do reactions

[abstract nest]

trying to make my c0 klee do good dmg 💔 any tips ? ^^

[bleak river]

yes.

[round narwhal]

go to bot spam channel, and do /genshin klee

[gray shuttle]

is itto better with def%/flat def or ER+def?

[viscid gale]

def %

and er

is way better in my opinion bc u get ur burst rlly fast

like

hp atk def geo% and crit dm/rt

def%****

i recomend 30-60 er i have 56 er but yea

@gray shuttle

[gray shuttle]

ohh alright thanks!

[viscid gale]

np!

[gray shuttle]

oh and should i level him up to 80 or 70?

[viscid gale]

if hes ur dps i recomend lvling up to 90-81

[bleak river]

As a def scaling char, get him as high as possible I think

[gray shuttle]

alright tq!

[viscid gale]

np

[gray shuttle]

how abt sub dps?

[viscid gale]

sub dps 80

[gray shuttle]

okioki

[viscid gale]

bc he likes def then u should lvl him up bc it gives a lot of def

[bleak river]

Hp and def scaling dps, as well as those with emphasis on swirl should be as high as possible

[viscid gale]

excatly

[gray shuttle]

soo lvl 80, ER+def% itto?

[viscid gale]

yep

[gray shuttle]

yaay finally

i havent touched him since i got him-

thank you guys!

[viscid gale]

i put him to 80 and didnt touch him bc i have to many characters to lvl

[coarse sapphire]

I have him at 80, talents at lvls 8,6,7, Serpent Spine maxed and I do feel he still needs some leveling

because his burst makes him more powerful but also more squishy

even with Zhongli's shield because it doesn't last as long as Itto's burst

[gray shuttle]

is serpent spine from pulls?

[balmy aspen]

Ohh

[urban plaza]

I think Serpent Spine is a BP weapon

[bleak river]

it is

[coarse sapphire]

yeah, you can get it if you purchase any Battle Pass and get to BP lvl 30

I have a question myself

[urban plaza]

Sure

[coarse sapphire]

I'm building 2 teams for Abyss:
1 Mono geo built around Itto with Zhongli, Gorou and Ningguang. No problem there.

Do you have any suggestions to build a freeze team around Ayato? Or should I just build a vape team and take advantage of my C4 Xiangling even if she's not built at all?

I feel more comfortable with a freeze team to avoid damage as much as possible and I'm already planning on building my C6 Yun Jin who is also lvl 1.

[urban plaza]

Can't suggest about the second, but you can remove maybe ning in first, and replace with an elemental/healer

You'll be able to make use of gorou's crystallise- shields related buffs

[modern raven]

hey need advice on my ayaka:) mine currently has 55 crit rate, is that too high?

[coarse sapphire]

roast me lol. Any suggestion is welcome

[urban plaza]

Also, while freeze teams are comfortable, they'll only work on F 9-10 and ig parts of 11
You can not freeze bosses, so that'd be a thing

[bleak river]

if you're running 4blizzard, that's way too much

[coarse sapphire]

noted, thanks. I'll look into that. 😄

[modern raven]

icic, tyty!

[bleak river]

30-45 is on the high end

[coarse sapphire]

ohhhh, so true. That does change my perspective

[bleak river]

for bosses, mono cryo is a good alternative

[gray shuttle]

ohh okok

[urban plaza]

I'd suggest a second opinion on this though, since I may me mistaken about it

[bleak river]

i cant comment on that due to my lack of a gorou :/

[urban plaza]

Also, if you want to play it safe, you can try Raiden National

Personally not a big fan, but it is one of the most used abyss teams

[bleak river]

^ because it's strong and easy to use

[urban plaza]

I think I am wrong, but you can still hold in a healer/buffer as Gorou requires only 3 geo chars
the 4th adds nothing to Gorou's buffs

[coarse sapphire]

I see, thanks

[coarse sapphire]

Maybe I could do Raiden National but switching Xingqiu with Ayato? :0

[urban plaza]

SOrry I forgot the Ayato part

I think that is a variation

Shinn or someone also sent a vid on the server

[coarse sapphire]

that's true

[bleak river]

(you can do ayato international as well)

[coarse sapphire]

which one was that one?

[coarse sapphire]

I'll look for it. ty

[bleak river]

this but raiden swapped with sucrose ig?

but then you have more er requirements

[coarse sapphire]

ohhhh

sounds fun

[urban plaza]

I think I did see a vid about Ayato Rational
where you use his burst instead of XQ's
And use him skill in the downtime

[coarse sapphire]

Sounds good

[coarse sapphire]

For Sucrose? My Ayato has a very decent ER, he can almost alternate from skill to burst in between rotations

[bleak river]

for xl and bennett

[coarse sapphire]

I'm gonna try it

[coarse sapphire]

Ah I see

[bleak river]

so honestly ayato rational should be easier

[coarse sapphire]

Perfect

Thanks so much y'all

[gritty tusk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvJzUqSzxFI

[modern raven]

https://youtu.be/PZCLX8gQIMo

https://youtu.be/Nq1HfkDyzFQ

[cyan mantle]

Look at this bullshit

[modern raven]

[modern raven]

Keep on grinding bro... Hope someday there are char that can utilize that art..

[cyan mantle]

it's staying on venti for the 4pc rn

but man

[urban plaza]

But do the rolls even matter?

I'm only looking for 1 substat roll (if present), and That's ER

EM VV artifact is so hard to get, that I take and say thank you😂

[cyan mantle]

It'd still be preferable to have some attack or er over DEF

[cyan mantle]

good point

[urban plaza]

XD

If it had ER present
and then had missed rolls, Id have cried

Happened on my Venti

Look

We love EM-crit Venti

The old feather had 24% CD

Like bruh
Where are these rolls on the set I want

[cyan mantle]

rolls rude

accidentally got a new xiao feather earlier

the one now on venti is his old one, he now has what i was rolling for venti

[urban plaza]

Ayy nice

I see you're sticking with the old Xiao build too

Me too

[cyan mantle]

to be fair xiao's er is a bit oof but otherwise he's amazing

[urban plaza]

yee. Hence you run him with a battery

[cyan mantle]

yeah his build is good, got more characters to build so yeah

[cyan mantle]

tru tru

[urban plaza]

sameee