#🔨・build-discussion
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6k may not sound like a lot, but lets frame it like this
10k plunge hits = 20k total damage on 2 enemies
6k swirls = 48k total damage on 2 enemies
Also I'm not going back to farming VV
I farmed for a month and literally did not get a single EM goblet nor circlet
I actually haven't even been using kazuha recently
Been running Raiden national and mono geo for abyss
Raiden national just perfectly counters half of the entire abyss
And for the floors that have hydro lectors I just swap out one of my geo characters for a cryo
I tried chongyun + zhongli in today's reset it was fun
not ane dmg bonus?
10k plunge + 5k swirls = 60k total damage per e vs 2 enemies
3k plunge + 7k swirls = also 60k total damage per e vs 2 enemies
with more than 2 enemies, swirls start to do more
swirls also cant miss their crit
and this doesnt even consider the case where kazuha's swirls trigger other reactions, which then deal even more damage based only on EM
Raiden National?
so basically
unless youre fighting a single enemy, full em is more damage in every single way
and even when youre fighting a single enemy, the differnce is not that big
raiden xiangling bennett xingqiu
Oh ok thanks
i just dont care that much about minmaxing my damage
thats valid, but its still good to keep in mind if people are ever asking if their build is good or what to build
also the likelihood of even encountering more than 2 enemies at once in abyss that dont die instantly from kazuha is very low in the first place because abyss is mostly hp wall bosses nowadays
uh what
have you not been playing abyss for the last few months?
all the ruin-enemy floors with 2-4 bozos
12-2-1
12-3-2
i dont use kazuha on those cause they cant be pulled so theres no point in tryna group them up, just smack them to death with geo
i think maybe the problem lies in the fact that im a geo main instead of something like pyro that benefits from swirls
my priority for Kazuha's skills are grouping > buff > damage
i cant justify using itto when c6 sara + raiden exists or ganyu exists
at least not until i get c6 gorou
2 copies 🤞
dont have c6 sara nor do i have ganyu
mewhen i have redhorn itto completely benched
Raiden also has er stat to take into acct
i guess
but with the catch C0 and no C6 sara my raiden does not reach Itto level damage when comparing both of them under their buffs
Catch R1?
Usually for catch it's er or atk/atk/crit but idk
ive seen atk/atk, yeah
actually no probably closer to 6k now that i think about it because i went back for a few weeks for Xiangling
bro trust me if i had gotten a single usable er sands or an atk goblet i would have used it
C3 Xingqiu and C2 Yanfei, currently building Yanfei and Xiangling
6k resin into ESF and basically garbage outside of flowers and feathers
and actually that image isnt correct i forgot to update the flower
Im guaranteed venti so the hunt for better artifacts begin
I spent my daily resin, and im currently using my 2 fragiles to build Yanfei and Xiangling (xingqiu) for 600 primos from abyss
oh shi- I forgot to do my abyss
is it that bad
It's a bit yikes
man im emailing mihoyo to make abyss rewards higher
Fr
Im gonna do the same but for AR rewards
getting a 3 star for leveling up
3 months to get to ar59 and then i get two fragiles and a single standard wish
this is what Im talking about the rewards are bad
Now that I know how the raiden national plays, how do the og national and childe national play?
But how do they play
tenten has a childe rotation guide
na
chongyun uses his e, infusing xiangling's normal attacks with cryo
letter her do freeze melts
I'm thinking of r5 kitain for shim ht if I don't get dbane soon ish
Tho I think blackcliff would be better
Would it be viable?
Who do I build first? idk good team comps but i have Xiao, Bennett, Xiangling and Sucrose/Fischl in one
Ur sara what cons
You could do Xiao, Bennett, Xiangling and Sucrose on one side and Yanfei, Fischl, Yae and maybe Xingqiu on the other
ISTG
BRO
HOW DO I DO THE CHILDE BURST ROTATION
I DID BEFORE AND NOW I CANT DO IT ANYMORE
its swirling hydro too fast
C1 Sara
Morning
Which one is better Electro DMG Bonus or Crit Damage for shogun Electro DPS
they are different artifact slots??
^
1 forsure
terrified i have c4 bennett
he’s the most cons i have
c6 is approaching
i hear it around the corner

anyway raiden hit 7k in abyss
floor 8
and she hit 20k in floor 7
so proud
how high could@her dmg go?
could she hit like 50k or sm
how could i achieve that???
magic
highest I have actually seen from people in here was like 780k or so
but that involved C3 + cracked substats in hyperraiden with Bennett, Sara, Kazuha
yeah
her burst can break 100k easy for the initial swing (she does 2-4x that amount of damage in the duration
with good artis/team comp
Actually im curious how good can i do
uhhh if i wanna use thoma as a sub dps/suppport, what set should i use? i wanna give him kitain ( i have one at r4 but i constantly get polearm billets), i have him with 2 pc cwof, and 2 pc millelith but idk if that will work well
Well, fav spear and Noblesse should work
Just sharing my Yae flower here folx
in terms of stats on their own?
crit damage is better, because she gets so much damage bonus from other sources
however, as the other people mentioned below, electro damage bonus is a goblet main stat
and crit damage is a circlet main stat
they arent at odds with each other
honestly im thinking it might be the second one
the only major diff between them is atk and crit damage, right?
ive seen up to 1.2 million
in this abyss she could probably hit 1.5
oh right, forgot that one
my observations of raiden:
pros-
high ult? dmg
pretty lady
she’s a god
nice voice
she walks towards the target during her normal atks
cons-
ITS A GAMBLE???? SHE COULD HIT 14K OR 2K FOR EHR ULT
long cd
um
that’s it she’s almost perfect

i dont see the con, thats just crit rate
and her cd is 18 seconds right? or 19? not even a con, other units have longer cds + the rotation works out well
honestly idk
she’s great
but
could be better
Hey guys is this enough cdmg? (Issa meme-build; man literally runnin around w a hydro dmg cup)
What the-
my max crit damage build without a crit weapon is 26:270
double hp mainstats because fuck

eula w/ redhorn 
Imagine that one in a lifetime crit hitting
yall ideas for 2 flex spots with yae and raiden
no 😥
you should have 1000+
just dump bennett and kazuha into it
xingqiu
running childe kaz bennet xiangling :/
Raiden yae hydro anemo XD
Yes
hi folks I'm new here
and pretty new to the game too
I'm now at AR45 and don't have any issues defeating enemies while exploring using my usual team (jean, yanfei, raiden, noelle/ningguang) mainly using raiden and yanfei
I want to ascend to AR50 (I think my adventure exp is enough) and maxed raiden to lvl90
but I learned that it takes a lot of purple books to max from 80 to 90
is it worth to lvlup raiden or should I use the purple books to lvl up several other characters?
I just want ease while exploring
this is my current characters
my weapons
Do you intend to do abyss?
For overworld you can lvl raiden to 89, 90 is unnecessary
Also lvl weapons you use to 90
I might, but I don't think I can go far with my current team
maybe just casually trying abyss. currently on floor 6
or should I do abyss? Is the reward worth the pain of farming artifacts? lol
Eh it's a self gratifying thing when you clear it and the rewards are miserable
Up to floor 8 is fine, 9-12 is a personal choice tbh
Also diona should prob run sac bow
na
leveling up units passed 60/70, or 80/80 for main dps is a wasted endeavor before ar55 imo
like a really big mistake
that i wish i could undo
level your weapons for sure though
especially good ones like the catch
of the units you havent built, i think you could gain a lot from focusing on beidou sucrose and xiangling
later, sara and mona are very good aswell
but as for everyone else, i think theyre already leveled as much as they "should" be for a long time
esp because youre at ar45, you can spend time grinding artis and talent levels (up to 6) at their highest difficulty
and the only thing youre missing out on is better boss drops, but as i eluded to above, theyre really bad until ar55 regardless
(still bad, but at least youre guaranteed 5* artifacts at that point)
as far as where damage comes from
team synergy > artifacts >>>>> talent level >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> character levels
as for this, its not a problem if youre able to buy the bp, which i would recommend if youre a low spender
otherwise yeah its rather expensive
No its a waste
Hi can anyone help me out 723235552 EU need help grinding materials to build characters
okay!
thank you for the detailed explanation
so it's better to have a lvld up weapon then
thanks a lot for the advice guys, really helped me
True
So Kokomi, Itto, and Kazuha
Who'd be a good 4th?
I'm thinking a pyro
U could do 2 geo
But yes kazu won't be needed if 2 geo
U don't actually need kazu with itto too
So u can actually build an entirely separate team
I was thinking kazu for koko
Yoimiya?
@daring onyx has leveled up to LEVEL 1 
I wanna include itto tho 😕
Hu tao? I think she'd be good with c6 kokomi but it's not like I have her
My Benny is c4 currently I think
no
Ok
Can't do hutao
hutao wants to be below 50% hp
Over heals
I don't even have her it doesn't matter
Yeah it KOKOMIS C6 has to do with characters being below 50%
Well u will have koko kazu Benny right now
The last one could be yanfei/diluc/xiangling/
Virtually any pyro except hutao , cux she needs to lower her hp
oh yes XL is one too
Or u can just run freeze with koko
So u save the trouble of figuring out how to vape
I dont have Yanfei ☹️
Or diluc actually
What cyro characters do you have
I cant remember if itto causes shatter
yes cuz geo and claymore
ah right dang
Any heavy attack does it I think
but yes @daring onyx you can go freeze comp, quite nice as freeze does stop the enemies when you have trouble
@sturdy stirrup has leveled up to LEVEL 4 
Chongyun, Diona, Aloy, Kaeya (obviously)
You could pull for ganyu if u want to
or ayaya
???
4 cryos
Yes ayaya works well with koko too
A list of characters
I was gonna 💀 but then I skipped for some reason
ah
Not team
can confirm from experience
It's okay, ayaka coming
She's pretty decent cyro dps
But kazuha and venti ☹️
decent im dying
I'm skipping Ayato just for them <\3
one of the best i'd say
Still doing very well in abyss
very well
I suck at this game 😨😨
0% cr and 100% cr are pretty similar tho
with both you get consistent damage
no half-assed Eula bursts that ruin your whole run
Can I not make it above 0? Idk whats really possible or not in this game
hmm more like you need atk, cr and cd to make it really work like other DPS so, maybe try other stats instead of just focus on cr for koko
I focused on crit dmg (I know I need cr I didn't know then) so she's got like -77 cr rn but like 100 CD 😭
Get to AR 45
can anyone help me farm artefacts? i got 35 frigle resine collected
europe
should i get raiden or wait for kazuha or get raiden and take chance of not getting kazuha
How😭
Depends what's ur team?
sucrose ,, amber ,, noelle/barbara ,, bennett
Cuz if I would be u I would pull raiden and farm primos and go for kazuha then
Bennett buff or heal?
dps
Main?
yes
this was my plan but 2.6 no kazu 🥲
Bennett switch with barbara/noelle for heal and buff amber as dps
Save more primos which ar are u?
35
Bennett switch with barbara/noelle for heal and buff amber as dps
Wow u can explore much and get many primos
Yk
And lvl ur Sakura tree
For free wishes
mhm ok
And the frostbearing or idk how to spell tree
But for what is ur amber
Burst dps?
And btw Bennett is hard to use as main dps
He is more support
Amber is better as dps
idk i just snipe random hilishurls and use baron bunny as distraction
Ohh do u have another Pyro user except amber and bennett
Like yanfei
Did you know ur name is spelled wrong?
Lmao
Anyways I hope I could help u pull for raiden and if u lose pull kazuha
If u need help with exploring or artifacts dm me
i didnt spend any till ar45
can anyone help?
guys Q
i have xiao and kazuha i am lost what to add to the team
i have hutao, zhongly, jean, qiqi, itto, mona
child
so any advice
you might want a healer in your team and a elemental person
A team for Xiao could be Zhongli, Jean and maybe Bennett (it'd usually be Albedo), or maybe Ningg with TToDS?
Other possible team is Xiao, Bennett, Xiangling and Sucrose, though you could replace Sucrose with Kazuha I guess
Kazuha is usually not paired with Xiao because he can't buff him and isn't as good of a battery as Sucrose afaik
NING WITH TTDOS
WHAT AN ABOMINATION
She doesn't have much use outside of that in that team, other than geo resonance :P
im a stupid ar 35 so uh whats ttods
A 3* book (Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayers) that buffs the character you switch to. So say Ningg has it, if you switch from Ningg to Xiao, you'll buff his attack by 48% (at refinement 5)
oh
ngl before sucrose i didnt use catalysts much
Ye it's fine akdjaka tbh there aren't that many catalysts to begin with, and most are not very popular (Ningg and Yanfei due to being 4* dps, Lisa, Klee) or like for example Mona is a great freeze support but she's not guaranteed
people love to flex nduajskdsik 🐳
it is a f2p account
what is your mona doing there for just a question
i spy a barbara skin
well summer event
i dont think mona will be able to support xiao very well but if sentimental value then go for it
well yeah i guess she will work better with hutao
cause i am not ready to build xiangly
maybe do a sub dps to go with xiao because xiao is mostly a anemo damager and not swirl
or you could give mona some pyro res to use with benny skill
i just love xiao so will play him with benet zhongly and idk
ihave jean c1 but i don't like her
lets say she is in the same team as xiao i use her as support chr or as subdps
@dark egret
idrk because i don have jean but maybe you can use her as both,, but if you dont like her then you dont have to use her
Yeah, Jean is usually built as subdps anyways, as her healing scales off attack and she heals plenty even without triple ATK artefacts
so uh what do i need to improve
Honestly that seems pretty good, would go for more CR if possible but otherwise seems fine imo
Built insanely well imo
I'd aim for at least 70 CR tbh but yeah
Harder for her since both her best weapons have ER as substat
Or well, at least her 2 most popular weapons that is xD (catch and EL)
other than healers, which characters are worth 90/90?
furthermore, is bennett worth 90/90?
Healers are usually not worth getting to 90/90 tbh
Most heal plenty even at like 60
As for Bennett, maybe, but imo not really, the attack increase is really minimal
Units that are worth are EM units (Sucrose, Kazuha, Venti), HP units (Hu Tao, Zhongli if you really want him to deal as much damage as possible or the strongest shield possible, but honestly 80 is enough for him as well) and DEF units (Itto, Noelle, Albedo)
For raiden national, should i have raiden use skyward and xiangling use catch, or the other way around?
why would em units be worth upgrading?
I'm not sure, but I think Skyward on Raiden in this case is better
Transformative reactions (swirling mostly, but also overload, electro-charged and superconduct) scale solely off of EM and level
For instance, the damage difference for swirling between level 80 and 90 is 33%, assuming same EM
Itto needs gorou
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Healers aren't worth 90'ing tbh
And imo, Bennett doesn't need to go to ascension 6 unless you want to crown his burst, which is generally a small diff anyways
You gain like 40 attack more from his buff per talent level
Pretty much everything Ater said 
so uh itto build opinion
Crits are way too low for a unit that scales with crit
ik
Er is also too low
sacrificed alot
I don't recommend worrying about your build until ar45
im ar 56


sucks my itto team sucks thoo
bro.
dont even say anything
i spent 3hour and 30frigle resine and got this shit
not even one is normal from them
oh yeah nah sorry
NO dont it gets better
bro i spend all i had what will get better lol
bro it was 2,5k resin.
yeah ik some people have it worse
uh
thats only 12 days of resin
when you think about it like that, its not actually a lot
kinda worse but still bad
its not character what u collected artefacts for
but i did for baal and bennet
none of them
was even normal
😦
literally everything was hp and def
im not even gonna loe
it was all hp and def
some of them anemo bonus and shit
but who cares about them when i dont even have one anemo
feel bad for you
keqing..
what's the best way to deal with crimson domain?
Don't do it??
^
Which one is better?
okay thanks everyone!
xiao,rosa,mona,chongyun
anemo, 2 cyro, 1 hydro
Despite ayato getting a “signature artifact” set, does anyone know if 4pc hod would work well on him? From his kit, it looks like it would benefit him more than his own set, no?
more than his own set? Probably not
But HoD should be a close second
Maybe similar to 4glad
MV modifiers are basically non existant compared to damage bonus, so a set which gives MV modifiers is going to be better than a set which gives damage bonus
But HoD benefits his burst more, has no rng, and is a domain you can farm right now
So for many reasons it may be the more practical option
@fleet knot how good is Racist spear on shenhe?
Ic
Anyone know which 4 stars are gonna be on the new banners?
idk
wait a week
What spear?
Racist WHAT?
...you mean lithic or what?
oh think i know
they meant the spear that buffs based on liyue character count
lmao
hence racist spear
that's lithic, yes
...was it not obvious?

its the only spear that discriminates based on nationality
therefore racist
wouldnt it be xenophobic
xenophobic would perhaps be a slightly narrower definition of the same idea
what does xenophobic even mean
It's like racist but only to other countries I think
so neonazi
Xenophobia is, in simplest terms, hatred for foreigners and them getting into your country and culture
Meanwhile, racism is thinking some races are inferior or even damaging your own by merely existing.
Or something like that
They are different, but close enough
You can be one without the other, but they typically are in a pair
Eh prob wrong channel anyway
Not quite tbh, but again, wrong channel
How are these stats for ayaka in abyss? And if I use ganyu and ayaka in the same freeze team, would ganyu use the same or need more ER?
seggc crit dmg, but if u can totally sacrifice some for cr imo
no idea for the second question tho, I assume she doesn’t need more er cuz particle regen but don’t take me for that cuz I’ve never played that team 
Assuming 4p BS, that's a pretty neat build
ganyu would be fine with this much ER
assuming ayaya is in the team
Also I'm guessing not much more ER needed, as she has a lower cost burst, but I'm not sure. I'd test in-game to see if you can comfortably burst off-cooldown
Also no need to get more CR at all if you're running BS
Oh yeah, cr with 2 cryos and bs is worse than atk% lol
Plus add in Ganyu's passive, iirc she has a CR one
I mean cmon 60% cr if you've got no substats is definitely not bad
oh yeah, ganyu has +20% cr for herself
so 80 there
Yeah, on a frozen target, she's already overcritting as it is (40% from stats, 40% from BS, 15% from cryo res, 20% from passive, so 115%)
do you think yun jin is worth building? I just got her from standard
Depends
What characters are you using?
What characters do you want to use?
How far are you into the game?
.Overall she is definitely worth building
but don't she boosts only Normal attacks
no charged
No plunge
no burst and skill
Yeah, she's pretty good for characters like Yoimiya, Razor, Noelle. Or well, any character that auto attacks. xD
If you build them as physical (or on field dps in the case of Chongyun)
She's amazing for characters who focus on normal attacks, but her usefulness drops quite a bit on CA/Burst damage characters
(Hu tao, Ganyu, Itto, Raiden,Eula)
why would yun jin not be useful for hu tao?
if you pair hu tao with xingqiu, won't she be focusing on autos?
Hu Tao focuses on charged attacks
She does one auto (some comps prefers N2C), but her damage comes from charged attacks
yeah. at most, hu tao can abuse like 10 of the 30 stacks
would 2 pc bs and 2 pc wnaderes be good on ganyu
or would 4pb bs or 4pc wanderes be good
it's either 4BS for freeze or 4WT for melt; there isn't much else for her#
For melt, yeah, it's good enough I think. She still prefers 4p WT or 4p SR afaik, but I'd guess 2p BS and 2p WT would be third
For freeze, no, she doesn't want EM on freeze
Wait what-
Im using 4pc SR
what is the ideal team for the crimson domain?
a freeze team probably
Xingqiu recommended
morgana then?
what would freeze xingqiu be like btw
well uuh
4p SR is on equal ground to WT on melt Ganyu afaik
Freeze XQ? You need someone that auto attacks for that
Yeah, as i said i mostly use chonguyn
You can like force autos on Ganyu but it's generally not recommended
XQ is better for Ayaka, for instance (even if she mostly focus on burst). Could go with Rosa or Kaeya as well.
Though the pyro domain has way less pyro enemies than one would think
4SR without Hamayumi works, yeah, but not everyone has amos.
Like.. the 2 slimes at the start which can be 1 shotted by xq's e
and then the pyro mages's shields which can be demolished by his q
Crescent can function well with melt as well afaik
for people that don't have ayaka/ganyu and want to use rosaria Dps, basically
She's quite niche, but good for the characters she's good on
Yoimiya, ayato probably
Not really sure who else
uhh idk how to put her in a team comp since but i usually use her with benett in a team comp
Melt ganyu typically uses bennett xiangling zhongli iirc, since xiangling has enough pyro application to melt both hits of ganyu's CA
A strong permanebt shield is required, since you basically stand nose-to-nose with the mobs in melt, and you can't afford getting interrupted during a CA
bennett kazuha is the stronger pair
yup yup i use her with zhongli
so the teams like zhongli bennett ganyu
and xiao (dont ask)
its gotten me 5/9 stars
and even though its like super fucking ass but my ganyu doesnt do enough dmg
Melt Ganyu also workable with Sunfire either.
The concept was simple: Apply Jean Burst and Bennett Burst, then proc Xiangling's Burst DMG, and Ganyu CA immediately applies more Melt.
Is this chill for a level 70 childe
It's pretty okay
Though u might need a better weapon
Yeah
Yeah still waiting for a good weapon
No rust?
Stringless is good for nuke childe iirc
Yep ^
Idk about normal use tho
I mean
From what I’ve seen is rust most of the time
Could but rust bonus is nothing to scoff at
I’m just hoping that I’ll eventually get it when I’m wishing on venti
cr
That’d be good
i think stringless e buff only works on the initial trigger dmg of the e?
idk i dont have him
But I honestly don’t have a five star weapon yet
I think so
The rest of it is considered NA
Yeah pretty much
in that case buff for e is useless XD
xD
But em is pretty high on stringless
But yea, could always buff em with sucrose or something
stringless is a good weapon to level because, even though its not super good for childe, its super good for other units that you can use it on later
so you wouldnt be wasting your resin by leveling it up
Is it good for venti or so?
@modern raven has leveled up to LEVEL 1 
venti, fischl
Ah ok
Is it just me or do weapon billets not drop?
I want Catalyst billets for Kokomi😭
i know what youre referencing but that isnt entirely clear
it might just be 1 specific billet type
like how the frost bearing tree or sacred sakura give
and it would be more in line with those aswell
who should I pull? ayato or venti, I have itto and xiao
tbh, you pull venti and ayato as morgana members if anything
I need 5 claymore billet....
I have like 10+ catalyst billets hahahah
Good luck 😭
And 10+ bow billets :/
I've been playing for like 8-9 months and have gotten 3 billets so far😭
😭😭😭😭
Swap billets with me
When can genshin do swap billets
🌚
We need a market trading system 🙃
Since resources are so dang scarce
facts
is diona worth 90/90
any tips on beating the wolflord boss on floor 12? it’s kicking my ass bc i don’t have any teams that work in geo v well?
Kokomi to the rescue!
dd
I'd say no to both. Units worth getting to 90/90 are usually damage units that scale off of HP, DEF or EM. Not worth it to 90/90 other units, specially not supports (excluding ofc units like Venti, Kazuha and Sucrose). Also not really worth it to crown Diona's E.
Can anyone suggest me a team build F2P friendly that's suitable for ayato 🙂
That's too vague of a question, as f2p players can have wildly different unit selections based on luck, what banners they summoned on, and how long they've been playing
Unless by f2p you mean like, enviosity levels of f2p where he only ever uses the guaranteed 7 starting units
In which case, you're very limited
I don't have sara, fischl, diona , gorou,
And i have the rest of the other 4 star units
tbh, your best choice as of now is to WAIT TILL 1-2 WEEKS AFTER RELEASE
let the theory crafters do their job
eletro/pyro keqing artifact set and stats?
Less em, more of both crits, less attack
Absolutely need a crit rate circlet
Attack circlet is a super rare use case, only really vaible for someone who gets a TON of free crit stats, like ganyu
And even then, it needs to be an extremely good atk% circlet
thank you, will take note of that
Your feather and goblet aren't too bad, but the timepiece, flower, and circlet all need replacement
You might find more success running an atk goblet too, so level those up if you find em
i see
i'll try dmg testing the electro dmg and atk goblet to see which one works best
(atk circ for shenhe too)
Fair
attack goblet may not give you a significant return unless it also has some killer substats
Alright then I'll wait for a week after it's release
shouldn't you be using an ER timepiece? I know you're at 200% but you're also using Emblem and Raiden herself benefits from ER straight up.
haven't had much luck so far
but will try farming one
Tbh you're pretty good so far (in terms of ER), your ER is fine for running the Catch, so ATK/Electro is usually recommended, that or ER sands and ATK goblet
But yeah, you really need to up crit stats and you'll barely ever want to run ATK circlet, the exceptions being what was already mentioned
i would suggest ATK cup when running the catch
the lack of base att really make a huge diff
ive found that, for raiden with the catch, an atk goblet is significant better than electro goblet
pound for pound
so would seem to be the consensus, I don't use the catch with her.
Im abandoning xiao for a while
oop
def raise her talents
yea imma farm it soon, awell as ascend her weapon
she is
Geo battery needed (not geo mc pls, I don't want his balls getting in the way of shit)
you wot?!!??!! 11% CR!??!!?
your helmet is extremely lackluster
i can switch it with Xiangling, xiangling has the crit rate hat
Can i build keqing with a 4pc shimenawas
electro dps
it seems like a good set for her
Try /genshin command
yeah because shim costs 15 energy
which is almost half of keqing's total burst cost
no bueno
Honestly felt that keqing dps came from burst, so I won't use shim either
I don't wanna use her for her burst tho
It's up to you though
Your world your character
The guide is only a recommendation
Shimenawa boosts dmg when you use her skill so it seems like a good set for her
you get like 15% crit rate after her burst, no?
thats already better than what shim gives
i already have 60% rate on her
or rather, when you look at what shim gives compared to what any other set could give + the 15% crit rate
shim loses
60% is low
60% is bare minimum, even
what
what-
Girl what
Eh makes sense
if youre running a main dps with less than 60% crit rate please swap to a crit rate circlet
i already have 60% rate and 200% dmg
damage numbers are quite literally only half the battle for dps, you need consistency
doing 60 damage all the time is better than doing 100 damage half the time, by definition
60:200 is effectively 120% crit damage
which is not good
theoretically 80/160 would be better
then why do you want a low crit rate high crit damage build?

that is the one shot build
impractical
like 60% crit rate to 75% crit rate is a 25% improvement in your crit chance
its a near 50% reduction in your "missed crit" chance
these are really big
I'm really loving yanfei/raiden combo
cool
What I meant is that I don't wanna crit all the time

Accidentally pulled raiden ❤️
60% crit rate on keqing is fine
but only if youre using her burst to get the extra 15%
if you dont wanna crit all the time, i guess shim could work
if you're not, 60% is just too low
youre dealing effectively half of the damage you think you are
or rather, instead of dealing triple damage, youre dealing 2.2x damage on average
so about 30% less
but point stands, 30% less damage than you expect to be doing is huge
thats the difference between a 60s clear and an 80s clear
Honestly u should've crowned the attack instead
Ik
But it's good for now
Jsut ur crit rate
Base attack could use some boosting too
lmfao is the advice for all chars just gonna be "get more crit rate"?
when her e gets activated her atk is around 3.1k
@robust drift has leveled up to LEVEL 1 
Literally
help
no base atk is good
Wokay
I think they meant the talent
ah
yeah if its talent it makes sense
but like.. base atk on hu tao is just low
she literally has the lowest base atk in the game
- the best 4* weapon for her is dragon's bane which has like 450
Anyway, about the talents, screw Monday
all my homies hate monday
I want the blackcliff pole tbh
And I completely hate xingqiu so dragons bane is useless for me
well idk
hola i decided to re-build Childe this week, honest thoughts? i'm still farming better artif on the cdmg part
Em is a bit low if you plan to vap his burst
I like close to 100ish, maybe 80 or so
And I don't know if that's enough er to reliably use his burst
And 1900 attack feels low for a harp build 
If you're buffed up most of the time that's not a problem though
Solid build but I'd keep workin on it
thank you @fleet knot 
Generates this @past barn
how do i do that?
can't i just send you per artifact image?
The site is pretty intuitive
You can, but it gets very spammy xD
You just paste the screenshots on the site and that's it
Weapon?
Also you don't need double attack, generally it's either ATK/electro or ER/attack
I'd also level up the catch to 90
just hit ar 50 today so..
@past barn has leveled up to LEVEL 2 
Do you have a ss of the full stats?
my electro goblet fucking trash
You gotta keep farming then ajsjs the flower is pretty good but maybe use an on set flower and an off set goblet?
Or go for ER sands, but idk how the overall stats are
yeah i gotta keep farming but what surprises me is the fact that
people with worst stats than me
hit 100k
f
As I mentioned, need to know the team and rotation ajsjakd
That's more important than artefacts for damage
can you tell me the rotations then?
i have sucrose
jean
like i dont have mona
but you tell me the ideal rotation
Also bls send a ss with the full stats
bls?
What team are you currently running?
Bls -> pls -> please
i use jean, bennett and sucrose along with raiden
okie wait
Aight unless your Jean is C2, no reason to have her there, and even then, her C2 just makes easier to do some combos while on burst, she won't up her damage number
Plus generally speaking can't recommend running double healer (Jean Bennett sees some use with sunfield or sunfire not sure of the name, but that's not relevant here)
jean is at c1 sadly
What are the rest of your characters? I assume you don't have Kazuha?
nah bro
i have zhongli
kokomi
If anything, you can run her with XQ, though he won't directly buff her damage
jean
my main team is xinqiu bennett zhongli and raiden
Not only 5* though, as I assume you're only listing them ajsjsh
If you want to buff Raiden as much as possible, I'd replace XQ for Sucrose (obviously assuming she has 4p VV)
I also assume you don't have C6 Sara? Not sure how well she'd work before talking about buffing capabilities but if she's C2 or more you could also try her
i have every 4 star other than gorou and rosaria
nah only c2
Well, to max buff Raiden, I'd go Bennett (with 4p NO and a high base attack weapon), Sucrose (with 4p VV) and either Zhongli (with 4p TotM) or Sara (with high base attack weapon).
If you go with Zhongli, I'd do Zhongli hold E -> Raiden E -> Sucrose E -> Bennett E Q -> Raiden Q
For Sara, I'd do Raiden E -> Sucrose E -> Bennett E Q -> Sara E Q -> Raiden Q
and how much do you think it'd buff my damage?
Well idk you'd have to test in game ajsjd specially since you were already running a similar team. If you weren't doing a proper rotation it should get you to around 100k I believe, but you also need to fix the artefacts.
iirc, sucrose and kazuha are the only em buffers in the game?
for sucrose, sac or thrilling tales?
Albedo
c6 diona
sac if mona
ttds if no mona
i think
Elegy for the end bow
i didnt read context but i assume this is constrained by their box
Switch bennet and sucrose if you use thrilling tales
Which I recommend
would Raiden/Kazuha/Zhongli/Jean be a somewhat good team?
i have all except kazuha, who im farming for rn
replace zhongli with bennett and yes
raiden has infinite stagger resistance during her burst, a shield is entirely, 100% unimportant
the res shred he gives also doesnt matter because kazuha or jean give double that, and it has significant diminishing returns
and bennett lets jean do sunfire stuff
which is a lot more fun than zhongli doing nothing
ooooo
then i still have 3/4
at least its functional!
wait but i plan to have Raiden - DPS, Kazuha - sub-dps/dps, Zhongli - shield, Jean - healer/support
my bennett is a healer
the shield on this team just doesnt help, as you already have a healer and you dont get any more knockback resistance
with raiden jean bennett kazuha,
it would be raiden - dps, kazuha - buffer, bennett - buffer / pyro, jean - healer / sub dps (swirls the pyro from bennett's burst)
both jean and kazuha would build full em, bennett builds a lot of er
its basically the raiden sunfire team, you can find more info about it if you look that up
im not sure if the typical raiden sunfire comp has kazuha
Can be difficult since Bennett clears the electro aura, so you can't swirl electro
so basically jean and bennett, jeans burst? can repeatly add pryo from bennetts burst?
pyro
or whatever thigg bff thingy is
the big one
with orbs
bennett's burst constantly applies pyro to your own units
jean's burst constantly applies anemo to your own units
applying anemo to something that is applied with pyro does a pyro swirl
ohhhhh
constant pyro swirls = constant damage
that makes more sense
that seems easy!
plus i could do like overload or vapo with it
mhm
ty!
so as i mentioned above, i dont know if kazuha is the "normal" 4th unit for a raiden sunfire team
but you could do some searching on raiden guides, jean guides, or team comps to find out more
and see what you want to do with it
i believe that a raiden sunfire team does a lot of overloads, so you have to be careful that the enemies youre fighting dont go flying everywhere
because if you leave bennett's circle, the pyro swirls stop
This made me laugh when I read it
pyro swirlies for everyone!
Circle impact
Yall Rate this plz 🙏
just got it ;-;
I just want a crit rate circlet and a atk sands
42.8 CV, it's good artifact
really good artifact but the set is unfortunate
any other set and it would be godlike, but blizz cares way less about super high crit rate
so its less valuable there
well, it can be used on reverse melt or a plume off-set :p
reverse melt doesnt use blizz
and offpiece feathers are quite rare when goblets and circlets exist
but yeah, good piece, unfortunate set
I'd be willing to take the burden of having such a piece off your hands
Use electro damage bonus artifacts for Hydro characters 🤫
Does the domain level affect the artifact acquired?
For example, I've hardly seen circlets and goblets outside of lvl 80+
only the rarity
Which one is better?
the second one
I actually tested it and the dmg didnt changed lol
But the substats on the second one fits xiao so much
second one has higher cv, but if it does the same damage while having higher crit rate, then its a no brainer
all the stats are good, where the left one has only crit damage
How high is a good Diona shield if shes only there for shield/heal
and HP oder Healing Bonus circlet?
I was wrong the current one does 31k and the second 30k
Okk
also a bit less batterying
hb only benefits burst so for max shield it would be hp
true true, so If I want her as shielder with good healing too, hb
Wait and farm the new set instead
She is a dps unit...





