#🔨・build-discussion

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modern raven
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all i know for sure is that eula is the best 5-star physical

gilded dock
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none; DPS units at the 4star level fall short

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it's between Eula and Razor, and razor just doesn#t cut it

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and I had him with SoBP because I randomly got it while (in vain) trying to grab a sac frags

modern raven
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and how strong is physical fischl?

unkempt oriole
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Not strong, for sure

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Why are u aiming to build physical dps anyway

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Fischl is best used as battery or quick swap (at least for me)

gilded dock
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physical DPS units are just garbage atm

unkempt oriole
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^

gilded dock
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and main reason Eula works is because her Q hits 7 digits in the right comps

modern raven
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then again, what do i know

unkempt oriole
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I mean if u really need a physical dps, it depends on what weapon u have too

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For instance I used rosaria as physical dps in earlier games cuz I had a skyward spine and it somehow worked

modern raven
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I've heard people saying Raiden's damage is frontloaded. How?

unkempt oriole
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Not sure what u meant by front loaded

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But if u meant short bursts

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I think that kind of applies to a lot of dps characters

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Or if u meant u need to invest more for Raiden, it still applies to most dps characters

urban plaza
unkempt oriole
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Oh didn't see it

urban plaza
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Front loading is doing major damage in the beginning of burst

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Hence, in Shogun's case, her first/inital slash does TONNES of damage

unkempt oriole
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Make sense

urban plaza
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The attacks after that is just fancy/stronk burst/electro damage + batterying

unkempt oriole
urban plaza
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Xiao, ig can be classified as Backloaded?
More so with PJWS

unkempt oriole
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Honestly think Xiao should be in consistent burst category

urban plaza
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Noo

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His ascension talents push him to backloading

unkempt oriole
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Oh I see

urban plaza
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A1 is 5% dmg increase during burst
Further 5% inc, every 3 sec of burst

hence his damage keeeps increasing

unkempt oriole
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Ah interesting

urban plaza
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His A4 :
Using skill increases dmg of subsequent skills by 15%, lasts 7s

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Hence he can be said to be backloaded

unkempt oriole
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Well eula definitely backloaded ig

modern raven
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so the fact that raiden's damage is frontloaded is why you guys are saying that skyward will be better than jade(contrary to the website)?

gilded dock
urban plaza
modern raven
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would the fact that jade's passive increases attack harm shogun though?

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i wouldn't think so

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but yeah, er would be useful

urban plaza
modern raven
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in a raiden national though, wouldn't it help once you finish the first part of the burst?

urban plaza
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Wouldn't it wean off by the time you get back to her

modern raven
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wdym get back?

urban plaza
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Eventually you switch out of shogun, do you Benny, XL funnelling maybe, Maybe XQ recharge
Then do the Benny, XL and XQ rotation, and then get back to shogun

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So wouldn't the effect wear off in that time

river oreBOT
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Primordial Jade Winged-Spear

A jade polearm made by the archons, capable of slaying ancient beasts.

Eagle Spear of Justice

On hit, increases ATK by 3.2%/3.9%/4.6%/5.3%/6% for 6s. Max 7 stacks. This effect can only occur once every 0.3s. While in possession of the maximum possible stacks, DMG dealt is increased by 12%/15%/18%/21%/24%.

Type

Polearm

Rarity

5 ⭐

Source

Wish

Base ATK

674

Secondary Stat

CRIT Rate 22.1%

Ascensions Material

luminous_sands_from_guyun Guyun ​ ​ hunters_sacrificial_knife Knife ​ ​ recruits_insignia Insignia

gilded dock
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it's 6 seconds of duration

modern raven
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but it'll take time for all the characters to recharge, and can't shogun do some auto attacks after the burst is done?

gilded dock
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going through all units, just from switch cooldown, requires 3 seconds. and all the animations in national add up to significantly longer than 3 seconds

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you will always start out with raiden at 0 stacks

urban plaza
modern raven
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so after you do a rotation, you'll switch between characters to recharge, and repeat?

urban plaza
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Yep

modern raven
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so in a national, the intention is a burst nuke

urban plaza
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You get 18s CD on her burst
And you gotta do something for those 18 seconds

urban plaza
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Nuke is a one-hit/shot

modern raven
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would think it comes pretty close though

urban plaza
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Raiden National is continuous elemental damage

urban plaza
urban plaza
gilded dock
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the 18s are filled up by
> 4s switch CD
> animations for raiden E, bennett QE, xiangling QE, xingqiu EQE
> 8s for Raiden Q

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so you have a strict rotation

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one that's very easy to do

urban plaza
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^
And depending on your build, you might have to do Benny E, XL before Benny QE

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The build being XL's ER, and Shogun's ER
Also- how many times shogun was able to hit the enemies during her burst- because that affects how much energy she could restore

modern raven
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er i'm a bit confused

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so after i finish raiden burst I use everyone's skills to enable bursts again?

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and apparently autos should almost never be used

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but which order for the skills?

urban plaza
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Exactly

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Have you seen a Shogun National vid?

river oreBOT
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up @urban plaza has leveled up to LEVEL 27 exp

urban plaza
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YAY

modern raven
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BTW, I just did shogun's quest

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I did raiden national there

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so what I did was use Bennett's burst, then Xiangling, then Xingqiu

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Then Raiden's burst, then E and then auto for self-battering

urban plaza
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You need to use skills too, for shorter downtime

modern raven
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then recharge everyone else and repeat

urban plaza
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You always start with shogun E

modern raven
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I thought raiden's e is only effective with autos

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since it strikes every time you do auto

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or did i get something wrong

urban plaza
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Nope. Not only autod

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Also, it boosts Burst damage

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so all the other 3 would hit harder

modern raven
urban plaza
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Plus you gain resolve chakras when using other bursts

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Aka bigger Shogun damage

modern raven
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okay i've just read through again

urban plaza
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Hence
Shogun E
Benny Q Benny E
XL Q, XL E
XQ E, XQ Q, another XQ E if sac sword
Then finally Shogun Burst

modern raven
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so raiden's e is on every attack

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and after shogun q, take the time to battery

urban plaza
urban plaza
modern raven
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should i battery the others after shogun herself, or should i recharge her off-field

urban plaza
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I think she should be good off field too

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You can try running it out and seeing what/how it works for you

modern raven
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this makes me wish it was possible to redo story quests

urban plaza
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Lmaoo honestly, no

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Your rotation is supposed to be based off your builds

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I'd like to redo story quests too

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But it is HIGHLY dependant on your builds

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Including shoguns

modern raven
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for vape diluc, should i use an EM goblet or Pyro goblet?

urban plaza
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Pyro ig

modern raven
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btw what does "ig" mean

urban plaza
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I guess

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Pyro Goblet

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If you wanna use EM, it'd be sands

modern raven
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hmm which one should I use here

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let me get the screenshots

urban plaza
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Pyro ;-;

modern raven
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oh and btw this is what his stats look like with each one

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With pyro:

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With EM:

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But I guess nevertheless I'll try getting an EM sands that is also crimson

urban plaza
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Your Crit Values ;-;

modern raven
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yes they are pathetic

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i get a lot of crit dmg but hardly any crit rate

urban plaza
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What circlet are you using

modern raven
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I haven't upgraded it :\

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and it is the only crimson circlet i currently have

urban plaza
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Don't upgrade it

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Keep farming

modern raven
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ye

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too bad i don't have any resin

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i'll come back in maybe an hour i guess

urban plaza
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I mean, farming can take a month

steady stream
modern raven
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i've been really unlucky when it comes to getting crit rate

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but for some reason i've been getting quite a bit of crit dmg

steady stream
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Ps thats on goblet i see

modern raven
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Switched the hat

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I'll continue farming crimson i guess

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too bad i keep getting lavawalker instead though

urban plaza
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What WL are you?

modern raven
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6

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AR 50

urban plaza
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Ah

modern raven
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but my AR has overflowed like alot

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but i haven't done the next AR ascension

urban plaza
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If you don't wanna do 4 crimson, there are second best options too

modern raven
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because my characters are currently at most 80

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i forgot what WL does though

urban plaza
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Harder enemies and better drops I think

steady stream
steady stream
modern raven
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129,876 / 26,400

steady stream
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Mhmmmmm

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AR 53ish mhmm

modern raven
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I'm not sure if it's worth attempting the ascension though, because like i said my characters are at most 80

steady stream
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Or is it 54

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Mostly 80s

urban plaza
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AR 56 (almost) and I have like 2 chars at 90

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Both could've done well at 80 too

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Supports are okay at lower levels too

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You can go for the last ascension and leave them at 80/90

steady stream
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If u r f2p, 80 ascended will be the best stopping point

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Save ur res for better character team como

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Comp

gilded dock
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90/90 is only relevant for
Sucrose
Kazuha
Venti
Noelle / Itto
Hu Tao

urban plaza
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Benny? idk

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No other HP unit?

gilded dock
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bennett already heals so much he doesn't care
kokomi and barbruh maybe

urban plaza
gilded dock
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73.67 atk

urban plaza
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Interesting

fleet knot
fleet knot
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she loaded her damage into the front of the rotation

fleet knot
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it is only recommended if you are in desperate need of crit rate

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but a crit rate circlet w/ a diff weapon is usually going to be better

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including weapons like the catch

fleet knot
fleet knot
fleet knot
fleet knot
modern raven
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guys

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do u think i can clutch xinyan before raiden banner ends?

unkempt oriole
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u could

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10 draw and 1/3 rng

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almost defnitely

modern raven
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and im F2P

unkempt oriole
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u have pretty long till end of banner

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dont worry

tired burrow
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js cleared floor 8 but can’t do floor 7 for the life of me 🥳

gilded dock
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wtf was floor 7 again?

modern raven
bleak river
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Floor 7 has fatui, increased crit dmg by 120% iirc

gilded dock
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just use the element the fatui shield is weak against

wise oak
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i used to struggle so hard on floor 7

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now im dmg tasting my charatcers on that floor

modern raven
gilded dock
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idek when I finished the corridor

wise oak
modern raven
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i finished it 3 days ago

wise oak
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i only had kaeya and diluc and my dos

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dps

modern raven
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abyss should give more for floor 9-12

wise oak
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ikr

bleak river
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Fr

modern raven
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completing all that only gives 600 primos

wise oak
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i can 31 start abyss now

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but its still sad

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cuz i have such good charatcerd and theyre shit

steady stream
bleak river
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I'm assuming "they're" refers to the rewards

wise oak
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no i mean the characters i have

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doo doo dmg

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artifact rolls suck ass

modern raven
wise oak
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like uhhh

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i have zhongli(he could do sm better and ik it), childe in general his build is ass, hutao idk wat i did with her

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i just benched her ass

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ganyu

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does ass dmg

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prob cuz shes on wanderes

modern raven
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Building my C1 Yunjin as sub dps for C0 Noelle

wise oak
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but yea

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my characters are literal shit

modern raven
steady stream
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Is that so

wise oak
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oo oh right i have xiao

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uhh

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his build is decent

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ig

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79:189 2.3katk 10/9/10

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naww

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he does like

steady stream
wise oak
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30k

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uhh

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wat do u think is ass dmg

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ganyus is like 50:200

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its under 20k

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bloom

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pain

steady stream
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30k ass dmg.....?

modern raven
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can anyone help me build a team for abyss floor 9?

steady stream
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Send what u have here.....

wise oak
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no

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she does under 20k

steady stream
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Me nowhere near as good as bala but i can help sometimes

wise oak
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sdfkjasdg

modern raven
steady stream
wise oak
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yea.

steady stream
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Actually n9

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GRUH

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U aint no bro so GRUH

wise oak
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yoo i have 30 characters

steady stream
modern raven
wise oak
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i bsed the floor

steady stream
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U can try uh

river oreBOT
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up @steady stream has leveled up to LEVEL 3 exp

wise oak
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its quite easy tho

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oh wtf

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why

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is both diona and bennett on the same team

steady stream
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Xiao + sucrose + diona + xq?

wise oak
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uh

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diona xiao bennett trav/kaeya xiangling barbara and keqing

steady stream
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Then team 2 can try miko + fischl + bennett + kaeya?

wise oak
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that could work but the charactesr are underleveled

steady stream
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But ur miko must be 70+

modern raven
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I can level them

steady stream
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Or at least 70

wise oak
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lies

steady stream
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The rest all push to 70

wise oak
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lies

steady stream
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And why is ur xiao 90

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When the rest are not even 70

wise oak
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my lvl 60 characters were carryinggg

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in floor 12

modern raven
steady stream
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Sure

modern raven
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Im trying to ascend bennett

steady stream
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Lol

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Focus on the others

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Bennett 70 enough alr

wise oak
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theres no point in building xiao if ur support dont do anything

modern raven
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Kaeya and Bennett is just physical dmg support and kaeya has a physical dmg build

steady stream
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Exactly...

modern raven
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Fischl and Yae Miko are hard to farm artifacts for

wise oak
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cyro kaeya would be better imo

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also much easier

modern raven
steady stream
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Kaeya is supposed to be cryo

wise oak
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not really

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he cant be any

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but i prefer him to be a cyro sub dps

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for me

steady stream
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As a sub dps

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And why physical bennett

modern raven
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So who do I build first-

wise oak
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yea i dont have mistsplitter for him to call him a dps

wise oak
modern raven
steady stream
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My bennett full heal can heal 5.5k lol

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And hes 80 with favonius

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And i didnt even build him

wise oak
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talents matter too

modern raven
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I havent even levelled xiao's

steady stream
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All i did was throw him all the garbage and make his hp over the roof

wise oak
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you shoudl do that

wise oak
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i found all the hp noblesse

steady stream
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Yes

modern raven
wise oak
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and just stacked him there

steady stream
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Dont crown for gods sake

wise oak
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oh

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lmfao

steady stream
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Not now lol

wise oak
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me when i crowned kaeya

modern raven
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Bennett has 2pc Noblesse and Gladiator

wise oak
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oh

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uh

steady stream
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Go full hp

wise oak
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esp if ur maining xiao

modern raven
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Im giving my old bennett dps build to xingqiu

steady stream
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Talent lvl 6 with 24k hp and healing bonus can heal 4.4k if i rmb correctly

wise oak
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so you can also do

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kaeya xiangling xinqiu and sucrose

steady stream
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U have yae

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Make full use of her

modern raven
modern raven
wise oak
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I dont think it is

steady stream
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U shouldn't have built ur xiao liddat

modern raven
wise oak
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Focus on xiao

modern raven
wise oak
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And his support

modern raven
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high ar dude told me to farm pre ar 50

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big mistake

wise oak
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Uhh

steady stream
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U should have stopped at 80

wise oak
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Start farming artifacts around ar;45

modern raven
wise oak
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Since the drops are better

wise oak
steady stream
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90 u wasted enough res to make 1 char to 70

wise oak
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It doesnt really matter

steady stream
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70*

modern raven
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THEY TOLD ME TO USE ALL MY FRAGILES AT AR 35

wise oak
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WHO

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TF TOLD U

steady stream
modern raven
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IDK I FORGOT

wise oak
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THIS SHIT

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WTF

steady stream
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LOL

modern raven
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I HAD 800 RESIN THAT DAY

steady stream
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They trolling u lmao

wise oak
modern raven
wise oak
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Wait lemme flex

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This is why u build kaeya

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Absolute shit

steady stream
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86 mhmmmm

wise oak
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Harbinger

steady stream
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Yes ik

wise oak
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Its def gonna go down knce i get mistsplitter

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Ill prob change to full bs by then tho

modern raven
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I did a team comp with Yae, Lisa, Chongyun and Bennett before

steady stream
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Can

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I

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Flex

wise oak
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Ya

modern raven
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Im finishing my handbook to get the 150 primos

wise oak
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Sobs

modern raven
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Lvl 9 statue in Liyue- Im almost to the quest ;-;

steady stream
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Try miko rosaria xq fischl

modern raven
steady stream
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Freeze superconduct op

wise oak
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True tho

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That swhy i kinda wannted to get ei

modern raven
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Bruh I dont have a lot of resin

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i lost all my fragile resin

steady stream
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U got trolled

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Now

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Slowly

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Go

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Upgrade

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Your

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Team

wise oak
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I resaving

modern raven
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slowly.

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slowly

steady stream
modern raven
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im trying to clutch raiden 😭

wise oak
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For kaeya

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Xinqiu kaeya kazuha and ei

steady stream
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Superconduct?

wise oak
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Yea

steady stream
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Mhmmm

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Freeze op

wise oak
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Good team

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Ikr

modern raven
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abyss, daily, hangouts, oculi, login, rewards, codes- anything for raiden and venti

steady stream
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Yknow what kind of freeze comp i use

wise oak
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Oh i also use childe and kaeya alot

steady stream
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Ganyu + kokomi area mass freeze baby

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10s no one moves an inch 🙃

modern raven
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I remember using Ningguang for abyss

wise oak
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Brooo

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Ayato and ganyu

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R gonna be cracked

steady stream
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No

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No ayato

wise oak
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Yes ayato

steady stream
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Kokomi only

wise oak
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No

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Ayato

steady stream
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Coz kokomi my bae

wise oak
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Supremacy

steady stream
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So only kokomi

wise oak
modern raven
wise oak
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Fake kokomi

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Lover

steady stream
wise oak
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Lmao

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But ayato would be so good in a freeze comp

steady stream
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Actually my real bae is EI and YAE

steady stream
modern raven
steady stream
modern raven
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/j

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Yae Miko is hard to use ;-;

wise oak
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Imo shes clunky

steady stream
steady stream
modern raven
wise oak
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I didnt like her playstyle

steady stream
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Flex it

wise oak
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But her design is amazing

modern raven
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i tried using her but her playstyle is so weird for me

wise oak
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Yea yea

modern raven
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yae miko is missing her booba line

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her design

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is wack

steady stream
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What booba

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She aint need no booba lines

modern raven
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her underbooba

steady stream
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What she needs is to bully ppl

modern raven
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on her left i think

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or right i forgot

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look closely

mossy barn
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who are you guys talking abt

wise oak
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Yae

mossy barn
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what abt her

wise oak
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y k wssad

steady stream
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My yae can bully kids yknow

wise oak
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that a lower ar can do more dmg than me

mossy barn
wise oak
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thats when i decide to sob and jump off a cliff

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;-;

steady stream
modern raven
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the highest crit xiao did was 49k ;-;

mossy barn
wise oak
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226k

steady stream
wise oak
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for xiao

mossy barn
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My highest crit was 149k from Raiden

wise oak
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but that was for a bounty and it was plunge atk bonus

steady stream
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528k here

wise oak
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NO

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LDSKJSDG

modern raven
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ooh nice

wise oak
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520k

steady stream
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All i know is bala did 889k lmao

wise oak
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IM 8k

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OFF

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sobs

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brb gonna lvl my mona and bennett really fast

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the moment i get fucking skyward harp

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on childe

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ill be ableto do big pp dmg

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hhh

steady stream
wise oak
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unless i get r5 stringless

steady stream
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His pp too smol

wise oak
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gingers smh smh

steady stream
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Except with polar star

wise oak
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wait who hit 528k for you

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mine was childe

modern raven
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Venti is so cool to play-

steady stream
wise oak
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childe

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with polar star

steady stream
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🙃

modern raven
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I have to use Xiaos burst to jump high when exploring lmao

wise oak
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sobs

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WHAT

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U HWAT

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aw hell naww

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im out

modern raven
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BRUH

wise oak
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bye

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i think my chinese hw is calling me to do it

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yea

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nope

modern raven
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i forgot my energy recharge

steady stream
modern raven
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but it charges rlly fast

wise oak
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about?

steady stream
wise oak
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oh

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uh

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its an inside joke

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yea

steady stream
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Nownow

wise oak
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ok but look at the lower part of the about me

steady stream
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Did

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U

wise oak
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you should def read it

steady stream
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Watch

wise oak
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NO I DIDN"T

steady stream
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That

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Fr

wise oak
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I DIDNt

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I SWEAR I DIDN"T

steady stream
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Through the red fog

wise oak
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MY FRIEND DID IT

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yea

modern raven
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I dont have venti so I use Xiao's burst thing to jump high

steady stream
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HAH

wise oak
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please

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dont talk to me anymore.

steady stream
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WHY

wise oak
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why would u use his burst ;-;

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NOT U

modern raven
wise oak
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everything luv

steady stream
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Very nice

wise oak
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everything is just wrong with that

steady stream
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I have raiden

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I have yae

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My babes goes like dis

modern raven
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SUCROSE CANT LAUNCH ME UP IN THE AIR AND IM TOO LAZY TO USE WIND CURRENT BOTTLE THING

wise oak
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kazuha

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ez

steady stream
wise oak
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BUT WHY WOULD U WASTE XIAOS ULT

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THATS LIKE

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disgrace.

modern raven
wise oak
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a fake xiao main.

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dont.

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dont.

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tlak to me.

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i seriously need to do my chinese hw tho

steady stream
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I think hes still fine

wise oak
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ITS FIWL

modern raven
wise oak
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I USE ALL MY ULTS ON TIMMIES BIRDS

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THAST REASONABLE

steady stream
modern raven
steady stream
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U should use ur xiao ult on his bird

wise oak
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I dont now tho since i have ganyu

wise oak
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No

steady stream
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I did once

wise oak
#

steady stream
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It was pretty fun

wise oak
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dont talk to me either

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;-;

steady stream
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To jump dash dash fall baby

modern raven
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I fought boreas with Xiao

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honestly pain

wise oak
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...

unkempt oriole
wise oak
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ok well i cant complain

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i legit was a fucking kaeya main until ar 45

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so id be doing boraus and shit with kaeya

modern raven
wise oak
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im litearlly

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blocking oyu

steady stream
wise oak
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im going

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to

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block

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you

modern raven
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pls

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dont

steady stream
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Bet ur kaeya cant walk out of that one alive

wise oak
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dont come to me with that

wise oak
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im a kaeya main afterall

steady stream
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Nah

wise oak
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fr fr

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hes hit 100k

steady stream
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Imma use my jigengiri on ur kaeya

modern raven
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who needs kaeya when u have sayu and chongyun faster bridge

wise oak
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BUT CANT HIT ANYHTING HIGHER THAN FUCKING 100k

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hes a disgrace

modern raven
wise oak
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kaeya

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he cant hit higher than 100k anymore

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pain

modern raven
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how come mona can swim on land

wise oak
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actaully he might be able to now

steady stream
modern raven
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Mona and ayaka literally evaporate on land

steady stream
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They melt your heart

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Or vape on u

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I think its the latter considering udk how to play miko

modern raven
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fischl better

wise oak
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Oop

modern raven
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fischl and yae have no difference

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also sara

steady stream
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Oh there is

modern raven
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dodging

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electro users

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dodging

steady stream
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Think of it this way

wise oak
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Best electro is lisa

modern raven
steady stream
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Yall never see anything

modern raven
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i was in class sorry

steady stream
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Good

modern raven
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ffs

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my mouse

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wont

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work

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good thing i use a laptop lol

silent tulip
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Why does trail bennett have a fav sword

unkempt oriole
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Idk. Er?

urban plaza
wise oak
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literally better than before

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they had kaeya and like every other charatcer

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on noblesse

silent tulip
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benny is still on noblesse lol

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though it does work for him

gritty tusk
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Just trying out copium comps at this point XD. Enjoy Suraikemon which is
Sucrose Raiden Shogun Pokemon which are Xiangling and Xinqiu.
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silent tulip
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Is this a sukokomon or a national variation?

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It has 3/4 national, and some people used to use Sucrose before raiden so more like 7/8

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But it has 3/4 sukokomon and raiden is electro and used for electro application so ig another 7/8

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@gritty tusk Explain

gritty tusk
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Idk honestly, i was just testing comps lol and I didnt know what name to giveCOPIUM

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Tho I think it's more leaning to a sukokomon variation where u sacrifice healing for battery from raiden

silent tulip
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oh yeah i just realized

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that team has no healer

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Well, what is with the clickbaity title

unkempt oriole
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It's clickbait wdym

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It's supposed to make people come and view

gritty tusk
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if it attract viewers, it attract viewers GOTTEM

gilded dock
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Sureikemon replaces benny with sucrose in national for more damage lol
it's a national variant

unkempt oriole
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idk still liked benny more

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putting sucrose seems cool, but getting xiangling's ult online kinda rip

coarse sapphire
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Is itto, Gorou, Zhongli and Yun Jin a good match? I wanted to make an all geo team around Itto but I've read he and Yun Jin are not a good match. I recently pulled her and I was thinking that maybe Gorou can make them work together by boosting them both(?) What are your thoughts?

silent tulip
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Well, a lot of itto's damage comes from Charged attacks and yunjin doesn't boost them

coarse sapphire
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but he has to build the stacks with normal attacks, right?

river oreBOT
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up @coarse sapphire has leveled up to LEVEL 1 exp

silent tulip
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He does indeed, but let's say you're using Eula

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Boosting her normal attacks and the fact that she has to do them doesn't change the fact that 60+% of her damage comes from the burst alone

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So you'd rather boost that right?

coarse sapphire
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true

grand kestrel
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Yun Jin also gives increasing bonuses when you have rainbow elements as opposed to mono.

fleet knot
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That's like sprinkles

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Nice to have but not important

mossy barn
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Should I replace my "The catch" on Raiden with EL?

fleet knot
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If you have EL

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Yes

foggy python
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yea give your catch to xiangling

unkempt oriole
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EL is > the catch on Raiden

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So just go ahead

marble moon
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Quick question, what’s an acceptable crit rate:dmg on raiden?

ocean ember
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I'd aim for around 70%:180%, but I guess something like 60%:140% could suffice, assuming the rest of your stats are also decent (ATK, ER)

marble moon
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Sweet thanks

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Now I know what to aim for with her artifacts

ocean ember
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Do remember that, if you're using catch, its passive adds CR for the burst, so there's that

marble moon
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Gotcha

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I managed to get engulfing lightning earlier so I’ll use that

ocean ember
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Ahh that's pretty good! Then do remember to keep at the very least around 60% CR, even if CDMG is on the low end

ocean ember
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You're still farming for her though, no?

marble moon
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I’ve got some artifacts from when I tried to build xiangling but the crit dmg wasn’t the best so I’m back to farming artifacts

ocean ember
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Good luck with that! RNG is cruel x'D

marble moon
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I’ll probably pair her with Sara when I get her C6 as well lol

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Thanks, I’ll need a miracle XD

gilded dock
ocean ember
ocean ember
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I think I haven't gotten anything good in the last week as well

gilded dock
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I got C12 bennett instead ofo sara earlier

wise oak
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ouch

modern raven
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Who should I build first? Yae Miko and Fischl or Yanfei and Xiangling?

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Im preparing for the new event coming soon

wise oak
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new event?

modern raven
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If I get welkin..

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no welkin (f2p)

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I CAN DO IT

gritty tusk
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C0 Kazuha Ele. Buff vs TTDS C2 Mona's Omen Buff vs TTDS C6 Ele. Sucrose Buff for Raiden Shogun's Burst Damage
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  • C2 TTDS Mona's Buff: 462686
  • C6 Sucrose's Buff: 510172
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vast flicker
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Hello everyone

unkempt oriole
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helo

mossy barn
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hola

crisp steeple
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jean build?

gritty tusk
burnt frigate
jovial hazel
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could sucrose substitute venti in the morgana rotation?

oblique pelican
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If it works, it works!

silent tulip
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On one hand, her burst does pull enemies in

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on the other... the pulling is far weaker + it feels like you're wasting all the EM sharing potential

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She does work, but there are better teams for her and better venti subs for morgana

jovial hazel
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my friend recommended me a super powerful mona-focused team that uses dual pyro res + bennetts ult buff, sucroses swirl, and monas ult to deal massive vaporize damage

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which i think is the route ill go down, im just having trouble pulling bennett ;(

river oreBOT
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up @jovial hazel has leveled up to LEVEL 1 exp

silent tulip
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Well... i wouldn't say thats too good of an idea

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The team is mostly used to see how big of a number you can hit

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So theoretically you can get 1 massive damage number with it... but then lose on tons of dps

jovial hazel
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well i was told the team comp is only useful for oneshotting bosses

silent tulip
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Exactly

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If you finish it in the first rotation - you're good
If it gets to the second one.. well... you have a problem

ebon ginkgo
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is thoma just 4p noblesse with hp/pyro/crit

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i dont plan on using him in like abyss or anything but hes up next for the friendship team

gilded dock
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that's like the worst build for him

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especially since he only works on hu tao from what I can see, and even that's risky

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black tassel x ER / HP / HP on 2TM 2ESF seems the more common one

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at least afaik

ebon ginkgo
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all my TM pieces got ridiculous crit dmg

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thats Thoma level 40 with level 60 Black Tassel so lots more hp if i decide to level him up more

gilded dock
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hand some over lol

gilded dock
ebon ginkgo
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i dont have mona

gilded dock
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klee?

ebon ginkgo
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c1 keqing, c1 diluc, c3 jean, no mona

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no klee either

gilded dock
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yae miko? xingqiu?

ebon ginkgo
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no miko but i have xq, although hes only level 70

gilded dock
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welp

ebon ginkgo
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i should get xq to 90 some day

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maybe after Ayato

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i dont want to spend a fragile but...

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uh i guess i'll do a pyro cube run for thoma and get to friendship 10 on these guys

fleet knot
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ive used xingqiu basically daily since release

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still only 80

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90 is useless im ngl

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though if i get a lucky MSR ill take him higher

ebon ginkgo
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the geo bros have gotten to friendship 10

fleet knot
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ive got 1 unit left on my entire account below fr10

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and theyre at like 9.6 rn

ebon ginkgo
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Yunjin:

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this will be my final friendship team

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everyone else is at 10

gilded dock
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17/39 are at 10 here lol

ebon ginkgo
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ew why does Thoma ascend with atk why are they so bad at their own game

ebon ginkgo
#

polearm impact

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damn im at 32 characters at friendship 10

modern raven
ebon ginkgo
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so deprived of good artifacts im considering leveling up a single crit min roll at AR59

ebon ginkgo
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once someone gets to 10 they're kicked off the team

modern raven
modern raven
ebon ginkgo
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oh trust me less than half my characters are built

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it sucked using certain units

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i put off some characters for a while just because i didnt want to play them and it boiled down to Amber Aloy and Sucrose all at level 40 or 50 until they got to 10... it sucked

modern raven
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Idk who really likes her play style

ebon ginkgo
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but playing every character for about a month or so was a fun experience, got to use units i dont normally use and figure out which ones i absolutely hate (ALOY)

modern raven
ebon ginkgo
#

she has the most boring namecard too

modern raven
ebon ginkgo
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this namecard sucks

modern raven
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The best namecard is Eula's one

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They didn't even tried to make something great with her card lol

ebon ginkgo
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i really like Ningguang's namecard

modern raven
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Oh and Childe's and Xiao's ones

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I am trying to advance my Xiao just for his card

ebon ginkgo
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i dont like Childe's that much but Xiao's is cool

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regardless of any character namecards tho i just flex this one. 522 days to get it

modern raven
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It looks nice asf for a Zhongli mainer or Ningguang

ebon ginkgo
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i was gonna use ningguang pfp but i decided on itto

modern raven
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Ooooh it still looks nice asf

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I main Sucrose lol, I am trying now to get that card from teapot number 3

gilded dock
modern raven
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Or idk what number, that one with flowers

ebon ginkgo
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good luck

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the achievements in this category are awful

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particularly this one

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bare minimum of 250 days to get this

gilded dock
modern raven
river oreBOT
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up @modern raven has leveled up to LEVEL 4 exp

modern raven
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It's easier to change the characters lol than gaining this one

ebon ginkgo
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im only 3 achievements off from having 100% on everything that isnt Wonders of the World

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its that gardening one, this one:

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and this one:

modern raven
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I didn't even caught 100 fishes lol

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I am just too lazy for this

ebon ginkgo
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i got to 740 from The Catch R5 and Toki Alley Pages

modern raven
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Ohh

ebon ginkgo
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im so close yet so far

modern raven
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U don't have that much, u can do this

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I wish u luck

ebon ginkgo
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14 of them are from daily commissions

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i looked into the inazuma commission achievements and they suck

modern raven
ebon ginkgo
#

id absolutely love to finish all of the commission achievements before Sumeru but we only have like 5 more months i wanna say before Sumeru drops

modern raven
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Crying in 360 lol

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I have a lot of work

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Idk if I will ever get all of them

ebon ginkgo
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next year is gonna suck in terms of workload...

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next year is my senior year in high school so i'll be dealing with college applications, scholarships, AP classes... i hope i still have some free time left

modern raven
ebon ginkgo
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genshin is definitely not a main concern but i would like to keep playing it, and hopefully by that time they have more content

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their recent surveys have hinted towards them acknowledging late game players complaints

severe maple
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which is better skyward spine r1 or the catch r5 for raiden

burnt frigate
#

<@&874036938351448094>

sage galleon
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so close to 20% crit rate

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is an em circlet any good for xiangling

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if her crit rate is already up

fleet knot
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no

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you'd be better off with a crit damage circ

sage galleon
#

crit dmg helm is better?

fleet knot
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if your crit rate is sufficient

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yes

sage galleon
#

its better in melt comp?

fleet knot
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yes

sage galleon
#

alright

fleet knot
#

xiangling likes em a lot, but a main stat for EM should only really be on her timepiece

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or in lots of substats

sage galleon
#

oo

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alright

quasi abyss
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question

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would raiden/venti/zhongli/whoever idk be a good idea or no

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like all in a team

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2/3 archons rnkekW

oblique pelican
mossy barn
#

Cause all I need is venti

quasi abyss
#

same

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i saw him do 200k in a domain in co-op once

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it was beautiful

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i fell in love

fleet knot
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Who ping

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Venti doesn't really help Raiden that much aside from generic utility that he brings to any aoe dps

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His value from battery-ing is pointless in a Raiden comp and vv can be offered by anyone

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Em that he could give via elegy doesn't help

upper sable
#

it's the gather them up really quick so i can one shot them part that sells him

fleet knot
#

Yeah, that doesn't require sustained cc

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A quick burst of cc like kazuha or sucrose would be just as good

rigid crater
#

Is leveling weapons to 90 a good decision?

rustic plank
#

Why is it not?

urban plaza
fleet knot
#

100% yeah

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unlike character levels

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which aint worth

unkempt oriole
#

Yea leveling weapons from 80-90 actually gave a decent increase in attack especially 5*

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Also crystals/fodders are significantly easier to collect

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The feasibility is high

gilded dock
#

even for a 5star weapon, you invest less resin into the ascension mats than you need for the character ascension mats, which are basically 8-10 runs at 40 resin each

earnest jetty
#

how much er do you generally need on a suport raiden w catch

oblique pelican
#

I've seen people use 250-270% but for me, 220 works just as fine ( with atk sands and electro goblet). Also almost 100% uptime on her burst.

unkempt oriole
#

anywhere 200-250 is considerably decent

earnest jetty
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ooooh ok. i have 260 rn and it felt a lil excessive

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ty!

unkempt oriole
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but yes might be too much er

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u can consider investing some of it into att%

earnest jetty
#

yep i’m gonna switch her er sands to attack%

fleet knot
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"optimal" would be like 220ish i think? and then 240 (270 w/ burst) with engulfing

unkempt oriole
#

^

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225% is already consistent burst off cd in my experience

fleet knot
#

however that is a loose constraint, and it assumes that you can choose where to "spend" your substats
like if you could get all crit and atk% rolls once you reach 220% er, thats better

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but if you get more er, thats still good too

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just add your artis to GO and click "generate"

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and itll let ya know what your best combo is for damage

earnest jetty
fleet knot
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its kinda like, the whole purpose of the website

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lol

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its one big calculator

unkempt oriole
#

i think mango meant if paimonmoe have it

fleet knot
unkempt oriole
earnest jetty
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got it ty!!

fleet knot
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much more helpful imo

oblique pelican
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Affiliate marketing be like:

unkempt oriole
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😂

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tbf it is useful tho

hollow fern
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Any recommended team with Shogun? I'm bad at this

unkempt oriole
#

raiden sara bennett xingqiu

hollow fern
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Oooh

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Ty

unkempt oriole
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np

gilded dock
oblique pelican
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And 3x 4pc ESF

bleak river
#

xq and xl dont need to run esf

unkempt oriole
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yea but its 'kinda' good to run esf for burst rotation

gilded dock
#

my ESF sets are a tad lackluster, but they work

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and with lackluster I mean without crit weapon they are at like 60 / 130 - ish

fleet knot
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That is the kqm standard for no crit weapon, and they use abysmally low standards

gilded dock
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Shows what crap the ESF domain delivers

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I was about to replace a 21% DEF electro goblet earlier, but it just rolled even worse

ebon ginkgo
#

i got a workable 4p ESF for Raiden then stopped farming

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not the best but it works

gilded dock
#

slightly better on my raiden, but yeah, ESF is giving workable sets, but far from good ones

ebon ginkgo
#

im building a lavawalker Childe because i keep getting good LW while farming Crimson Bitch

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like bro

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all of these could have been Crimson Bitch

timber hearth
#

Because my artifacts are shit, is it better to have a higher cr and lower cd(66 -88) or higher cd and lower cr(34 - 135)

gilded dock
#

TL;DR: Higher CR

timber hearth
#

okkk

modern raven
#

WHO DO I BUILD FOR FLOOR 9?

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I have Xiao and Xingqiu

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Thats built

river oreBOT
#

up @modern raven has leveled up to LEVEL 8 exp

modern raven
#

Bennett i have yet to give a support build

unkempt oriole
#

floor 9 is about dishing out enough dmg

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bring support for xiao since u built him

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xiao sucrose benny + x to start with

ebon ginkgo
#

current floor 9 and 10 are annoying

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for me at least i kill everything in one or two hits but theyre just spread out everywhere

wise oak
#

Is this decent

timber hearth
#

bruh

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37%cr

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not even 150 cd

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good em

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yeah

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It's a 6-7/10

fleet knot
#

its a 7/10
because 700 em out of the 1000 em you should have

timber hearth
#

passable

fleet knot
#

crit stats on kazuha are like crit stats on kokomi

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you simply do not need them

timber hearth
#

oh

fleet knot
#

er is a tad low

timber hearth
#

alr

timber hearth
fleet knot
#

na

wise oak
timber hearth
#

oh

ebon ginkgo
#

My kazuha's a little unconventional but he's still broken as hell

timber hearth
#

Kazu is useful reguardless

ebon ginkgo
#

I just like having crit cause he can deal pretty good damage on top of element buff

wise oak
#

shit uh

wise oak
#

how do i do a childe rotatin

ebon ginkgo
#

You uhh

wise oak
#

i forgot

#

and i keep swirling hydro

timber hearth
#

swirl pyro with bennet and then child??

ebon ginkgo
#

Actually I got no clue I've never used childe outside of comms

fleet knot
#

and his swirl damage, for most intents and purposes, scales quadratically

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aka way better than his normal damage

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so he does more personal damage AND more buffing when you full stack EM

ebon ginkgo
#

I already have close to 700 em with my crit, sacrificing anemo dmg and crit dmg is not going to increase my swirls to deal as much as my plunge

fleet knot
#

your swirls could increase by nearly 50%

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from like 4k to 6k

ebon ginkgo
#

...but my plunges deal over 10k