🔨・build-discussion

[sudden lion]

Any suggestions who should i use with these 3?

[fleet knot]

blackcliff is one of his best 4* options

xiangling wants the catch asap

[sudden lion]

Ty

[fleet knot]

the catch is better than most 5* options for her

as for proto starglitter

its uh

it exists

maybe hold out for a fav lance

idk what other chars you have

[sudden lion]

W8

[fleet knot]

yeah just rush the catch asap

its a very annoying grind but xiangling with the catch is the best pyro dps in the game

[sudden lion]

I'll try, im still lacking on those books

[fleet knot]

i see xiangling xingqiu bennett and beidou all at the bottom of your list, but theyre 4 of the 5 strongest 4* units in the game
if you want to explode your damage quickly, i cant really recommend them enough

[coral siren]

What a day to be a f2p

[floral dragon]

What xingqui should build guy

4 emble or nob

[round glade]

depends on your team setup if no any nob in team, nob way good to buff all team and if you already have good artefacts of it

If you just collecting and your xingqui will be with good weapon, consts and want good personal damage

Not like just support

emblem giving more potential

[nova pier]

Zhongli artifacts 2 piece hp 2 piece shield strength or 4 piece hp

[slim solstice]

is zhongli support. if so retracing bolide's shield bonus does not work on him if he is not on field

go four piece tenacity

[signal tundra]

I want to use Ganyu for her skill and burst mostly , im running the stringless and 2pc Blizzard 2pc Shimmie Remi. Does this sound like a good set for her for the purpose I want her to fill?

[wise oak]

oh shit skill and burst?

[signal tundra]

Ya

[gilded dock]

if you want to use her for morgana, stringless is fine, but you still want to do 4 blizzard strayer and max CD

[wise oak]

what about noblesse?

[signal tundra]

Nah, this build is more for overworld fun with Amber and other random guys

[signal tundra]

What would the other 2pc be?

[signal tundra]

That could work, but wouldn’t that hinder the skill dmg?

[wise oak]

it does?

[gilded dock]

sry meant 4BS lol

[signal tundra]

Oooo okok, because it’d increase crit rate right? Then id go with a crit dmg crown

[bleak river]

Circlet

[signal tundra]

Oh idk, ig i would think it would compared to 2pc blizzard 2pc shimi remi

[gilded dock]

in theory, you'd want Thundering Pulse in morgana, but stringless is fine

[wise oak]

im nit sure either 😓😓

[signal tundra]

I’m not running Morgana, i dont have Mona or a built Bennet

[wise oak]

but u said burst dmg so immediately thought of noblesse

[gilded dock]

bennett isn't morgana

[wise oak]

who tf is morgana 💀

[signal tundra]

I said skill and burst, for burst for sure noblesse makes sense :)

[gilded dock]

and freeze mona is literally just a bunch of ER thrown in her general direction

[signal tundra]

A meta team comp

[wise oak]

oh-

[gilded dock]

Mona
Ganyu
Diona
Venti

apparently some joked ayaka's comp should be called Diamond based on that formula, but that never happened

[bleak river]

Diamond?

[gilded dock]

Diona
Ayaka
Mona

Di-A-Mon

[bleak river]

Hmm

[gilded dock]

• the d because morgana got the r

[bleak river]

Interesting

[slim solstice]

sukokomon bringing the variety of pokemons into the play

[oblique pelican]

R is for rational, which all genshin players are.

[gilded dock]

More like R for Retarded

[fleet knot]

No, shim is a bad bad idea unless you're running a melt charged shot ganyu

Shim is generally a bad idea

It's a bad set bonus

[signal tundra]

I’m running her for skill and burst @fleet knot

2pc blizzard 2pc glad/shim

[oblique pelican]

I did compare raw dmg on 4p WT and 2 BS/2SR. The later performs better.

[fleet knot]

man im tired if i somehow read that as 4shim

[oblique pelican]

[signal tundra]

Ay thanks for checking! U a real one

[signal tundra]

Haha no worries

[coral rock]

Hey, I have to do a tough choice for the free 4* of the event : XQ C6 vs Xiangling C4... Hu Tao/XQ is main duo, so it will be really nice to have C6. But my other team with Xiangling is struggling so I could use her C4... Any advice ?

[slim solstice]

go for xiang. you may get a xingqiu con in the future sometime when pulling. his c6 is very good but based off your situation you need xiang to be more useful. her c4 is more valuable than xq's c6 as a support. if your tao xq duo is doing alright then its not that needed.

[fleet knot]

xiangling c4 is huge

xingqiu c6 is "merely" big

[coral rock]

Good point. Yeah my duo Tao/XQ is not struggling. But my other team with XL is not fixed yet, so I thought maybe I could put some other characters, but the truth is I don't have any other carry beside Hu Tao, so XL is the default choice for the other team for now. Thanks for the reply.

So yeah, probably going for XL.

[silent tulip]

I actually don't really have 5* carries besides Hu Tao as well lol

[gilded dock]

OG 4stars really be carrying this game
wish I would've gotten C2 yunjin on shenhe banner myself, but oh welp

but seriously, only really yunjin and diona feel usable at C0 from all the new 4stars past the 1.0 OG squad atm

[coral rock]

That's probably true, I'm still kind of new in the game, but I really did underestimate the 4* characters. I've been struggling with half-baked teams for months waiting for a 5* to pull. I would already be cleaning more than half of the abyss by now if I leveled some.
Happily, I pulled C3 Beidou today, and I'm counting on her for carrying me while I wait for more 5*.

[silent tulip]

Well the thing is, 4*s are good but they need Constellations

better than some c0 5*s even

for ex: Noelle c6 is better than Itto c0 Imo

but honestly, inazuma 4*s are a mess

Sara needs her C6 to be better than bennett at anything, and c2 should've been how her E worked overall

Sayu's c2 should've been in her kit too

Thoma's shield is practically unusable until second rotation

Gorou is a bit better than Sara, but he is even more niche

Yunjin is good at c0, but her only useful constellations are c2 and c6

[coral rock]

Heh, I mean, they are 4*, of course they need constellation. MHY are probably happy the way they are.

[gilded dock]

ok. except the original 4stars, only diona, rosaria, and now yunjin, are even worth conssidering at C0

xinyan is trash at any con
Gorou only for noelle / itto
sara needs C2 baseline, more like C6 though
sayu needs C6
thoma needs C2
Yanfei without C1 is not worth it

[slim solstice]

^ my bias would say c6 xinyan isnt that trash in a physical comp

mine works fine with eula

shes pretty niche and odd to use since shes pyro and physical. and her shield is an ornament but with wgs she is usable in the abyss

[fleet knot]

Honestly I don't think Sara c2 is important at all, though her c6 definitely is

And sayu works perfectly well for non combat uses at c0

[gilded dock]

non-combat

but yeah

[fleet knot]

Yeah it's arguably a majority of the game

At least time-wise

[pastel sand]

fuck wrong channel im gonna delete that

[leaden jolt]

guys, for better pyro main dps
yoimiya c0 or yanfei c3?

[gilded dock]

yoimiya for sure

especially in current abyss

[fleet knot]

depends on the content
in the current abyss yoimiya definitely wins out

[leaden jolt]

for now I am on yoi main, should I build yunjin too? its look she can buff yoi so much

[gilded dock]

yanfei generally isn't the beste either way

yunjin isn't required to make her work

[fleet knot]

if you use yoi then yunjin is basically a shoe in

[gilded dock]

but if you plan to use xingqiu to vape yoimiya autos

might as well add more damage

in that case, Yoimiya, Zhongli, Yunjin, Xingqiu is a valid comp

[leaden jolt]

I wanna try yoi, xingqiu, yunjin, bennett in one party
got xingqiu recently

[gilded dock]

I think zhongli does better than bennett. mainly because of the 20% RES SHRED on zhongli shield, and the 15% DMG bonus from geo reso

if you don't have zhongli, either bennett or even fischl apparently work fine

[fleet knot]

vap yoimiya is... not exactly ideal unless youre diligent about using her full NA string

[leaden jolt]

but zhongli res happen if the enemy was near on his shield right? so my yoi must near enemy

[fleet knot]

because of how icd works

[fleet knot]

you gotta be near anyways because yoimiya can and will just miss most of her shots

[gilded dock]

zhongli aura is as big as the hold DMG area

[fleet knot]

the 20% res shred is really overrated though

its just a nice little bonus rather than an actual selling point

[leaden jolt]

yea u right😂

[gilded dock]

the better comp would prob be Yoimiya Fischl Yunjin + either xingqiu, bennett or zhongli

[fleet knot]

like 20 shred in no way compares to literally 1000 attack

yknow

[fleet knot]

the shield is good for yoimiya though if you run vap because of this

you gotta get her N5 out to vap

if not, just run overload with beidou yunjin

and maybe c6 fischl or other flex slot

[gilded dock]

depends on a few factors to be fair. but I get what you mean

Yoimiya Beidou Fischl Yunjin also works yeah

staggering with overload is quite neat in floor 12 first half

and JP OverNational has basically the same strategy; overload your way through that bullshit

[leaden jolt]

omg so many suggestion 👍

thx guys, for now I will build yunjin first
4 husk or 2 husk-emblem?

[forest karma]

2 husk-emblem

[gilded dock]

4 husk or 2 defender's will 2 husk if you got good 4star defender's

2 husk 2 emblem I'd only suggest if you have energy problems / them already laying around.

You want fav lance on her, so you should maximize ER and CR in subs

[leaden jolt]

omg I almost no 4star artifact
for now maybe 2 husk emblem

[unkempt oriole]

What ar are you

Better lay off the artifacts until you're actually 45 or something

[autumn geyser]

ayo

anyy yae artifact suggestons

i was thinking about doing 2p tf and then either 20% er or 18% attack

then doing an eletro goblet

[fleet knot]

probably any combination of 2 tf/glad/shim

or 4sf

[autumn geyser]

severed fate?

[fleet knot]

yea

||90 cost burst with ~2000% scaling yknow||

[autumn geyser]

what is

[fleet knot]

her burst

[autumn geyser]

-2000% scalling

[fleet knot]

[autumn geyser]

oh

oh

WhAT

[fleet knot]

that is not a -

[autumn geyser]

i dont know if im just slow

or

define scaling

[fleet knot]

||its like 650*3 iirc||

[autumn geyser]

...

[fleet knot]

like zhongli burst has about 900% scaling

[autumn geyser]

ok ok

what is

scaling

[fleet knot]

or MV for motion value

[autumn geyser]

in this sense

[fleet knot]

_ _

[autumn geyser]

oh

oh

skill dmg?

[fleet knot]

yeah the scaling

[autumn geyser]

OHHH

im

assumng

thats alot?

not the best at building characters i cant mess with rn

[fleet knot]

people think zhongli's 900% is a lot but for many reasons its not

||2000 is a lot though||

[autumn geyser]

900 is a big number

[fleet knot]

like imagine the biggest showcase you've seen for zhongli's burst and ||double it||

[autumn geyser]

oh

ill be

unstoppable

if i crit

LMAO

[fleet knot]

actually you could do much more than that, because electro can be swirled

so you can do vv, kazuha damage bonus, and sara c6

yae burst showcases are going to be insane

[autumn geyser]

yae kazu sara and bennet?

good team?

[fleet knot]

probably yae raiden kazuha xingqiu

[autumn geyser]

electro chargered?

[fleet knot]

ya

xingqiu does cracked damage + ec is underrated

also 50% damage reduction

and some healing

[oblique pelican]

Fr? 2k burst scaling?

[autumn geyser]

this is gonna sound dumb

but whats

ec

[fleet knot]

electro charged

[autumn geyser]

oh

so rotation would be

yae skill, kazu skill, xing skill, sara skill, yae burst?

oh wait

forgot raiden

[fleet knot]

raiden e, kazuha eq, yae 3e q 3e, xingqiu qe, kazuha e, raiden q go ham

[autumn geyser]

imma

[fleet knot]

if i had to guess

[autumn geyser]

farm

for all of them

thanfully i have 400 sea gandoramas

thanks broski

[fleet knot]

yae 3e might go sooner

idk, havent played it

[hallow vessel]

guys help me about team for floor 9 they have too much hydro monster, my xingqiu and xiangling are the dps in my team (also i don't want to lv up my char cus im broken, im ar rank 35)

[fleet knot]

xiangling or beidou is gonna be your best bet vs them

maybe a sucrose beidou team

sucrose beidou lisa qiqi perhaps

just specifically for the hydro mimics where all you need is beidou pog damage, electro resonance, and healing

then first half can be the typical national comp, xiangling xingqiu bennett congyun

[hallow vessel]

but my beidou too weak she just for energy recharge

[fleet knot]

beidou is one of the strongest 4* units in the game

beidou sucrose xiangling xingqiu bennett

are all extremely powerful

[hallow vessel]

so team i put like this enough to go 6 star on the abyss ?

[oblique pelican]

All imma say is you need to level up your characters and talents

[fleet knot]

that is very different from what i suggested

:P

[hallow vessel]

; - ;

[fleet knot]

if youre using under powered units you gotta use overpowered synergies

of which you have enough, but not many

[hallow vessel]

i want to get to floor 12 with all 6 star fast as i can so i can have much primo

[fleet knot]

the classic national comp and a sucrose taser comp can get you there

you just gotta build em up

[oblique pelican]

Floor 9 @ ar 35 isn't bad at all imo

[autumn geyser]

Gems you will be able to save is: 80390
That's 502 pulls

bruv

thats

so little

*taken from a year, 13 monthly welkins, 36 staring abyss, and maxing out bps

[oblique pelican]

Wdym?

[autumn geyser]

oh

forgot to swap servers

my b

[half oasis]

Guys, I need help building an attack Zhongli. He is very capable with the shields as of now, but he deals only 600-700 DMG per hit, and I would like to improve on that aspect as well. What must I do? What weapons and artifacts must I get for him?

[fleet knot]

accept that he wont do damage

because hes zhongli

[junior crest]

Pale flame I guess? Usually just build physical dmg

[fleet knot]

[junior crest]

If you really want it

[fleet knot]

he cant really keep up pale flame unless you want to spam pillars everywhere

which cause some major usability issues imo

so you can go for 2pf 2bs

[junior crest]

Tru

[half oasis]

Aight. He is actually a blessing for me, because now I can do whatever I want without worrying about hits or HP loss. But because his own DMG was less than mediocre, if he were allowed to get a good amount of DMG, he could very well replace everyone on my team. I do play a lot of co-op, so I have only one chara at my disposal. That is why I wanted to see if an all-round Zhongli was possible

Thank you for your suggestions

[oblique pelican]

How is 2 pc glad+shim compared to physical ZL? Atk also boosts his burst dmg.

[fleet knot]

the burst bot zhongli is the most effective way to use him

physical zhongli is more or less a meme, i wouldnt recommend it to anyone

the issue with a burst bot zhongli is that he is super expensive to build and you get very little actual payoff from it relative to just investing in better characters

of which there are many

[oblique pelican]

And it requires homa

[half oasis]

This is how I'm currently using him. I do not have the Tenacity set, but for weapons, I do have the Homa available

[half oasis]

he is very expensive to build. He just feels a bit overrated in my opinion.

[river ore]

@half oasis has leveled up to LEVEL 6

[fleet knot]

i think its very fair to say he is the most overrated character in the game

[half oasis]

But he is the only 5 star that I have ever won 50/50 so I would like to wear his old bones out before I get someone else

Let him sit after getting arthritis, but first I will use him to the max

[sweet oak]

why not use him shield supp

[half oasis]

I do use him as a shield+burst

I want to improve ATK stats as well

That is my aim

[oblique pelican]

You know that shield strength only applies to Zhongli right?

[half oasis]

Yes

I do

Shield strength scales with HP too, right?

[sweet oak]

yes

[half oasis]

Or is it only HP dependent?

[sweet oak]

why not fatm tenacity

[half oasis]

Ahh that's where the issue comes

[sweet oak]

if you get pf you can use him phys dos

[half oasis]

With Zhongli, comes poverty

He is the broke archon who extends his brokeness to everyone who is an F2P tryna level him up

[sweet oak]

well he is poorest in the game

so he'll def suck the mora outta you

[half oasis]

Unless you have an incredible amount of patience to let the resin refill. Farming for him is what has exhausted all the fragile res I stockpiled up

[sweet oak]

you don't have do build him immediately

that would be the problem if you're rushing to build

[half oasis]

Ahh, I am a person of impatience, but as Zhongli says, "Don't rush". I mute the chara dialogues just to shut the osmanthus wine up

[sweet oak]

how about 4pc glad

or

bloodstained

2pf/blood s

[half oasis]

Dude, you absolutely have no idea after how many wishes I got someone I really wanted? I couldn't farm enough primos on Hu Tao, Albedo, Itto and Xiao's banner and now is the first chara I get. It is partly because I have just started playing, but you feel underpowered compared to the other people you play with. I am unsatisfied that I am unable to contribute to the team

This is why I'm rushing to completely build atleast one person

[sweet oak]

ah, me who skipped eula x2, albedo, kazu, raiden, yoimi, koko, tartag, klee,xiao, shenhe for ganyu

[half oasis]

You are a person of incredible self restraint and patience. Teach me this power, I will be your disciple and eat bread for the rest of my life

Though I do eat another form of bread, as flat bread( chapatis, naan, tandoori rotis and stuff) hehe

[sweet oak]

that's also the patience I use to build my characters

unless you are willing to have that self-restraint and patience then I cannot fully accept you

[half oasis]

I will work to better myself. Thank you for your words of wisdom

"Every journey has its final day. Don't rush"-Rex Lapis

[sweet oak]

but seriously tho you can use other artifacts on him while slowly completing his build

imo pf/bloodstained

[half oasis]

Alright

[sweet oak]

thats what I use on my alt with unbuilt eula

[half oasis]

While I am playing in my own world, I do have Ningguang and Geo Aether for Zhongli's recharge, but what do I do in a co-op with a single chara?

That is why I use the fav lance on him

Though I have the Homa as well

And the catch, but fishing for it is a pain

I have the catch, it's just that refining it requires a lot of the red medaka

[sweet oak]

you want him phys dps right

look for artis with er sub, not entirely sure but I think homa would be better for burst support zhongli

his burst has low energy cost and if you're running phys dps then burst shouldn't be top prio

crescent pike might be a better polearm

[sharp mauve]

Any recommendations for my diluc build ?

Dont pay attention to the wrong feather its just a placeholder

[crystal heath]

sry dont know that language

nah saving for kazuha

idk but am on 60 pity and 50/50 and i have 10 aquaint + 7 k

so should be enough

even if i lose

i started playing the game when his first banner came pulled for him but got qiqi ;-;

then now am fully prepared

i would really like him to drop in 2.5 man

need him fast

yup

till lvl 80

80 to 90 is really a stretch

nice dude

4 feb is stream hope kazuha come in 2.5 really need him

ohhhhh

[river ore]

@knotty crystal has leveled up to LEVEL 2

[bleak river]

Some people say
yae
Shogun and kokomi

[crystal heath]

it should be as kazuha was the first inazuma character but idk why evryone is like kokomi will come first

i am like hey stfu

i farmed everything

and if he comes one patch later man

;-;

am gonna cry

[fleet knot]

if current mega sussy leaks are to be believed then kazuha aint until 2.7

[crystal heath]

idk if i can wait that long

[fleet knot]

which is a godsend for my wallet because 2.5 is gonna wring me dry

[crystal heath]

keep saving

i dont want yae or anything

as i have raiden and hu tao

atleast till now its good

[crystal heath]

if that happenes am gonna kill everyone ;-;

why dont they drop banners up ahead for people to farm

=_=

[bleak river]

That'd affect the banners before the anticipated banner's sales

[crystal heath]

[sharp mauve]

French

But the main informations are understandable

I think

[crystal heath]

hey this is my benny stats is is kinda ok ish??

[fleet knot]

i wouldnt really say so, no

if youre going for a damaged based build, the crit rate is unusable

but if you want him to be support based, the ER is a lot lower than i would personally want aswell

[crystal heath]

yea

;-;

[crystal heath]

i havent lvled up his er sands

LOL

its lvl 0

btw i got more crit rate its like 30 now

still trash but yea he is support so

[fleet knot]

anything lower than like 55% is not good if you want the unit to have any sort of consistency

[crystal heath]

yea

[fleet knot]

2 exceptions are childe and eula, who can reasonably crit fish

[crystal heath]

oh

[fleet knot]

personally i run my bennett on full er

i think i have like 270

[crystal heath]

oh

if i upgrade

i might get 200 +

so

yea

[fleet knot]

200+ is probably acceptable

its just that a support bennett legit doesnt need anything else, i so i went all out for it

[crystal heath]

ohh

nice

[normal wave]

is people already tried a good build with this kind of sword ?
i ve tried with my Geo traveler and it give me good result using the Elemental Skill, when using in a quick rotation it can give a nice Nuke,
your thoughts ?

[fleet knot]

3* weapons are largely not usable

exceptions include white tassel, black tassel, thrilling takes, dark iron sword, bloodstained greatsword

i think thats it

a very early debate club aint bad either

[normal wave]

thanks mate

i got sucrose c3 and Jean c0, which one i should prioritise ?

[calm gate]

😭

[oblique pelican]

Sucrose can group enemies. Jean can heal. Depends on what you need atm.

[dire musk]

I've been trying to build Ganyu for a while but she still only does around 8-12k with a freeze team (Kokomi - Mona - Ganyu - Zhongli). I genuenly have no idea how to build her lol any ideas on how to improve her damage? I'm using the Viridescent Hunt on her. 2 PC WT and 2PC BS with ATK, CRYO DMG and CRIT DMG. This is how she's looking at the moment

[junior crest]

you kinda need 4 set bs

[dire musk]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-snap-emoji-crying-gif-22298553

[slim solstice]

em is useless in freeze comp thats sadge

id just go meltyu with wanderers w better substats

[dire musk]

guess i'll go melt ganyu

i don't feel like looking for good substats ngl it's the most painful part of the game

[slim solstice]

the problem is the resin efficiency of farming for bs. the other set is only good for childe, or as off pieces for xingqiu with 2 noblesse. i think meltyu is stronger rn for the abyss clear.

[oblique pelican]

You can replace ZL with diona. And swap either mona/kokomi with an anemo unit for VV.

[dire musk]

Hmmm I could use Diona, didn't think of that

[sweet oak]

more atk

[half oasis]

Ohh so that is what crowd control means! I was kinda confused as to what kind of crowd management passive Sucrose has

[grand kestrel]

crowd control is a variety of different capabilities that generally relate to manipulating the position or movement of enemies.

[half oasis]

Most anemo characters can do that pretty well ig? Anemo Traveller's hold e/skill, Kazuha and Sucrose, I have no idea about Venti

[grand kestrel]

some are better than others

venti has the widest range and the greatest pull of any of the anemo characters on his ultimate.

[half oasis]

Makes sense as well, acc to lore he is the Anemo Archon, and from stats, he is also a 5*

Xiao has no such abilities right?

[grand kestrel]

Xiao does some pushing with his attacks, but doesn't have any real pull capability

Jean is also not that great at crowd control, though she can be used to good effect.

[tacit kelp]

sorry, my eula has 56% rate and 119% dmg: i need to increased the dmg?

[fleet knot]

That is super low for eula

[wise oak]

maintaining a good high ratio without the charatcer having it as their ascension is tough

[fleet knot]

eula scales with crit damage

[wise oak]

o h

then why is the crit dmg

kinda

low 💀

im sorry.

[hasty sphinx]

Is ganyu freeze still good in current spiral abyss?

[fleet knot]

yes

especially 12-1-2 and 12-2-2

[gilded dock]

any freeze comp is absurd in floor 12 atm

Shenhe Xingqiu Chongyun Rosaria for me atm

[forest fog]

Hello i want to ask, how much crit does xiao need
Just got him on prev banner and max ascension yesterday

My cr was 99.1 with 97 cdam
How should i change it into?

[gilded dock]

switch the CR circlet for a CD one lmao

[fleet knot]

^

100:100 is a very warped ratio

[forest fog]

[sudden lion]

What arti should i use to her? The electro flower on the domain?

[slim solstice]

you should unlock the artifact domain in inazuma that has emblem set. and use the four piece on her. if not, you can use 2 noblesse plus 2 thunderingfury. or other support sets like instructor.

[brisk mirage]

i have 30k hp for zhongli rn

and 1900+ atk

should i focus more on atk?

[timid sphinx]

What set artifacts did you use?

[hallow vessel]

guys what team should use with this ganyu stats ( also she having 2 pyro buff so it + her 300 atk)

[oblique pelican]

BS set?

[fleet knot]

is that a melt ganyu then? if so, your crit rate is definitely too low

[hallow vessel]

wander set

cr kinda low

[elder light]

who do u have

[grand kestrel]

with CR that low you should use cryo resonance

[ocean ember]

Yeah, that CR is pretty low. If you want melt Ganyu (because of Wanderer's), I'd advice at the very least go with cryo resonance

Diona would be best I'd guess, since melt Ganyu kinda needs a shield

Specially if you're gonna play up-close (due to Xiangling)

[hallow vessel]

should i put rosa in melt team ? she can buf me more 10% with her pasiv

[ocean ember]

Do you have her at 90+ CR?

[oblique pelican]

P sure Cryo res won't work if you're using melt ganyu

[ocean ember]

Her buff is dependant on her own CR iirc

[hallow vessel]

she only on 70

i think that would be enough

[ocean ember]

But yeah, that's a good point about the cryo res, always forget it's conditional on enemies being affected by cryo

[grand kestrel]

not that it won't work, it's just extra spikey

[ocean ember]

70 would be like 7% CR I believe?

You really need higher CR or switch her to 4p BS

[hallow vessel]

i though her pas is + 15% with her cr

[oblique pelican]

Rosa gives 15%

[elder light]

yeah but she might steal the melts right?

[ocean ember]

Ah, then around 10% from 70%?

Still it's too low imo

[hallow vessel]

ye

[fleet knot]

cryo resonance definitely doesnt work in a melt comp, but there isnt even space for a second cryo unit
not that it would be important to have one, melt ganyu doesnt use her burst

so no battery is necessary

[oblique pelican]

At this point, it's better to go with freeze ganyu. Even though you have WT equipped

[ocean ember]

Well, the second cryo came up because of the resonance, not for a battery anyways

[elder light]

very stupid and off meta but hu tao has a crit rate passive too LMAOOOOO\

[hallow vessel]

this is crit hat but i think it not us full

[ocean ember]

Yeah lmao

[oblique pelican]

That's way better

[ocean ember]

Well, at least it's closer to 1:2, so better

[elder light]

59 is def better yep

[hallow vessel]

but cd too week

[elder light]

id also say up that em for melt ganyu

[hallow vessel]

weak*

[ocean ember]

But more inconsistent

You average damage would be lower

[elder light]

aim for 200 or use sucrose, c2 kazuha or c6 diona

or slap somebody with 4-pc instructors

[hallow vessel]

how much em suc need ?

[ocean ember]

Sucrose? As much as possible, not neglecting ER

[elder light]

as much as possible

[ocean ember]

I'd say around 500 minimum but idk

[elder light]

id say 600 personally

[gilded dock]

at C1 with Sac Frags, she doesn't really need ER tbh

[ocean ember]

Yeah, I'll personally go for 800+ if possible

[elder light]

but you should aim for as close to 800 as possible

maybe even 900

[ocean ember]

True, but not everyone will have both and some may prefer TToDS (I myself am still in the dilemma lmao)

[hallow vessel]

this ?

[river ore]

@hallow vessel has leveled up to LEVEL 1

[ocean ember]

Yeah, that's fine

[fleet knot]

i remember pre-release there was "hutao is a support" copium to follow the "ganyu is a support" debacle

"she buffs crit rate exclusively for her allies"

[elder light]

I remember the people who thought hu tao can heal the party

[ocean ember]

Wasn't there something along the lines for Yoi too at some point?

[elder light]

that was funny

[ocean ember]

Oh lmaoo

[fleet knot]

yoi burst buffs applies only aswell iirc, yeah

[gilded dock]

TTDS on sucrose isn't really that worth it imo

[fleet knot]

atk though

although the main thing is that yoi cant activate her own burst

so people thought that meant she was a sub dps

rather than realizing that meant a sub dps could still activate it while yoi was on field

[ocean ember]

I'd guess it'd depend on the comp tbh, with Hu Tao I think I'll stick with Sac but for Ayaka probably TToDS (at least until I get Kazuha lmao)

[elder light]

i actually use yoimiya to up attack for fun i got xiao to 4k attack using her burst with some other things (bennet, ttods, noblesse, pyro res etc)

[ocean ember]

Ah, that too xD

[grand kestrel]

I like to use Yoimiya burst with Raiden burst.

[fleet knot]

sac spear for hutao

[grand kestrel]

spac

[fleet knot]

sworc

swac

[hallow vessel]

also guys hutao team like this good enough ?

[fleet knot]

if yanfei is c4

and jean is running vv

ye

[hallow vessel]

yes it c4

[fleet knot]

pog

[gilded dock]

the crime against humanity here is the level of XQ though

[bleak river]

Indeed

[grand kestrel]

heh

[ocean ember]

My team is not really meta but I like (usually a charge shot from Yoi to apply pyro and swirl with Jean E beforehand) Raiden E -> Yoi Q -> Beidou E Q -> Jean E Q -> Yoi E and auto until it ends, around the same time Beidou's burst is over -> Raiden E -> Jean E -> Raiden burst and do whatever combo until every burst is up again. Extended and unorthodox, but it's pretty fun for me. xD

[grand kestrel]

guess he doesn't need to be level 80 to apply wet condition. 😛

[fleet knot]

CA yoi

thats smth else

[ocean ember]

Only to apply pyro though xD

Well, on overworld I do use her charge shots to snipe stuff, since she has Amos anyways

[grand kestrel]

I amuse myself with Yoimiya charge shot multi shotting birds and pigs.

[bleak river]

Why not rust tho

[ocean ember]

Because I have Amos and my rust is only R2 or R3 iirc

[grand kestrel]

he's a little rusty

[fleet knot]

i really wish i could justify investing in the mc

[ocean ember]

I wish I could, but most times I try the all arrows target the same bird lmao

[fleet knot]

but genshin just really discourages you from doing so in as many ways as possible

[grand kestrel]

trick is to shoot the bird farther away

[ocean ember]

I'll try that next time, ty xD

I just wish the MC could switch elements on demand

[grand kestrel]

now getting it to split off to two other birds, that's a real feat. XD

[ocean ember]

I can imagine xD

[grand kestrel]

my current roster.

[fleet knot]

What's the stars

Cons?

[grand kestrel]

yes

[fleet knot]

C6 keqing

[grand kestrel]

C7...

[gilded dock]

just use paimon screenshot?

[grand kestrel]

doesn't show character levels

[fleet knot]

It sorts by level and friendship rank iirc

• you can manually sort

[grand kestrel]

sure, or I can spend 30 seconds in gimp. XD

[fleet knot]

Anyways, doesn't matter

Ye

C2 raiden

And c1 ganyu

[grand kestrel]

I may have whaled a little bit for Raiden.

[fleet knot]

Damn you copied my account no lie

[junior crest]

hoyolab shows both the level and cons

[grand kestrel]

okay, well I like my way. XD

[fleet knot]

[bleak river]

If it works it worke

[fleet knot]

I see c2 Raiden, I recommend Raiden hypcarry with kazuha and Sara
It's that simple

Sara c6 is a more potent Raiden buffer than either Bennett or kazuha

It's crazy

[grand kestrel]

yep, she also hits like a truck with her ult

[fleet knot]

Genuinely an underrated aspect

She's a full blown sub dps with broken support capabilities

Only downside is it requires c6 and is electro specific

Sara is a niche support done right

Take notes shenhe

[grand kestrel]

hell I gave her Viridescent hunt and she was outright murdering minions with the proc lol

[fleet knot]

Ye I think mine has harp and hits for like 150-200k total with all the hits

Assuming 12 hits which is 2 waves

Anyways

Raiden hypercarry

That'll be so strong that you could run damn near anything second half and be fine

The glory of power

[grand kestrel]

yeah Raiden outright murdered the stupid heads in the event lol

honestly I think I just got lucky on Ganyu C1, not that I didn't roll for it, but after I got her I didn't really put the effort into rolling for more

it's been more than a minute though lol

[winged pine]

Y’all like my Xiao

And Gorou

And albedo

[fleet knot]

[elder light]

😭

[winged pine]

And ayaka

And Zhongli

[fleet knot]

crit rate sword on ayaka

[bleak river]

But why

[elder light]

😂😂😂😂

[winged pine]

cause d a m a g e

[elder light]

you just killed everybody

[bleak river]

Only gorou and maybe maybe albedo make some sense to me

[winged pine]

zhongli does 200k

with that spear

[elder light]

IM CRYING😭

[fleet knot]

citation needed

[winged pine]

ayaka does 50-90k with crt rate sword

albedo does 100k

[bleak river]

But engulfing on xiao

[winged pine]

i havent used gorou

xiao is a joke

i actually have staff of homa on him

[elder light]

i told her to do it 🤣

Cursed builds are funny

[winged pine]

yall would cry looking at my bennett

[bleak river]

Ohno

[bleak river]

Uhhhh

[elder light]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[winged pine]

luckly 100k bennett

[fleet knot]

what weapon tho

[winged pine]

lions raor

[bleak river]

…

[winged pine]

hes built for melt ofc

[bleak river]

The BC tho

Why

[elder light]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Its funny

[winged pine]

cause i ran out of artifacts

just there till i find replacements

[elder light]

Her bennet actually does good dmg

I play with her all the time he can do 77k by himself with melt

[winged pine]

my xiao is

58 crt rate

[elder light]

In this case its a artifacts with good substats >>>> the artifact set

[winged pine]

240 crt dmg

[fleet knot]

bit skewed

probably puts in work though

[winged pine]

hes good

[quartz marsh]

anybody know best ratio between CR:CD:ER for raiden shogun?

[hybrid saffron]

60/140 280%

50/120 250% for lower investments

[quartz marsh]

is 45/145/235 good enough?

[river ore]

@quartz marsh has leveled up to LEVEL 3

[quartz marsh]

should i increase ER or CR first?

[hybrid saffron]

you're using the catch?

[quartz marsh]

yes

[hybrid saffron]

atk sands?

[quartz marsh]

yep

[hybrid saffron]

should be fine

cuz the catch adds 12%

might be better to use ER sands for a better rotation

[quartz marsh]

yea havent got decent ER sands

[hybrid saffron]

that should be a decent enough build, if u have other characters to build, its probably the best to move on to other domains.

[quartz marsh]

but i use EoSV for 3 chars, so i think i'd still wanna farm there sometimes

which one is better?

[hybrid saffron]

crit value wise the second one?

You do wanna try to get at least 50% crit rate even with the catch

[fleet knot]

raiden is a character who scales from damage off of like 5 different sources, the best way to be sure you've got the best build is to put your artis in the optimizer and see the result

[quartz marsh]

sorry im new, what optimizer?

[fleet knot]

https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/#/

there is a bit of a learning curve, but once you learn how to use it and apply game knowledge, it is perhaps the single most valuable tool the genshin community has to offer

[quartz marsh]

i run shogun with eula+rosaria team. +15 CR from rosaria

[fleet knot]

at least in my experience

and the calculations are pretty accurate

if i do say so

[quartz marsh]

wow

[hybrid saffron]

thats true to a certain extent. Different buffs will affect her dmg output as well, according to the build she's running. Say a build with high atk will diminish in dmg when comparing to a build with high crit inside bennet's ult.

[hybrid saffron]

is that c3 + engulfing?

[fleet knot]

c2

[quartz marsh]

[fleet knot]

the issue with raiden having so many sources with which she can do damage is that the "general recommendations" can vary WILDLY
for example, with engulfing, its recommended to have 240-250 or so ER, but my build has 340

and its not because i like high ER (i do, but thats not the point)

[hybrid saffron]

340 with passive?

[fleet knot]

yeah

[hybrid saffron]

thats about right

[fleet knot]

its because my highest damage build just happens to be such a high ER build

no its not

240 is about right

w/o passive

[hybrid saffron]

280 is the normal tho

with er sands

even f2p raiden would be able to achieve that

[fleet knot]

yeah its not really optimal to get many ER substats on raiden if you choose to use an ER timepiece

[quartz marsh]

@junior crest paimon moe ga nambah beginian?

[fleet knot]

what

[hybrid saffron]

its fine tho, at least it doesn't diminish her dmg that much since she also scales with ER

[fleet knot]

frzyc is a different developer

the app is unrelated to paimon moe

[hybrid saffron]

it also means that bennet's buff will do more relatively

[river ore]

@hybrid saffron has leveled up to LEVEL 1

[quartz marsh]

yea i was just wondering if it is possible to use them, since it is open-source

[fleet knot]

its strange, because raiden with engulfing gets both damage bonus and atk% from stacking ER, so the buffs you use and substats you have can drastically effect what goblet or timepiece you might want

its just too chaotic of an optimization to give blanket recommendations like "hp or EM for hutao"

[quartz marsh]

which scanner you recommend me using for GO @fleet knot ?

[fleet knot]

amenoma

[quartz marsh]

oh no mostly in chinese

wait is that japanese

[hybrid saffron]

its chinese

[fleet knot]

there is an EN anemoma scanner

[hybrid saffron]

there is an english version

[fleet knot]

its the one that ends with _EN

[quartz marsh]

got it

[hybrid saffron]

am i blind, wheres the button to upload the scan

nvm

its in database

[fleet knot]

this video is a bit outdated (old UI + no autoscanners), but the rest of the information is still more or less up to date

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kjvbp4_b1xw

[robust dawn]

what i should change? (kazuha dps)

[fleet knot]

well that crit rate is more or less unusable if you want him to crit

and the ER is way too high

but the biggest point of all is that kazuha is pretty much universally better if you run him triple EM

more damage due to swirls and better support

[quartz marsh]

about amenoma, when i hit scan should i switch to all the artifacts?

[fleet knot]

you should be on the artifacts page, then swap to amenoma

select GOOD format

[quartz marsh]

already have

[fleet knot]

select your filters (probably 16 to 20, 5* and 4* if you want)

then capture screen

scan

and wait

[fleet knot]

might be a controller thing, can you disconnect the controller?

also i recommend GOOD format

[robust dawn]

better?

[quartz marsh]

ok, so all i need to do is just press start scanning and wait? no iother input needed?

[fleet knot]

correct

[fleet knot]

crit rate is still a bit low but i really cant recommend triple em enough

60:130 would be pog if you must run him as a crit carry though

[robust dawn]

okay

omg is better

thank you

[fleet knot]

[hybrid saffron]

ummm

sus dmg

[fleet knot]

Big damage

[clear gale]

Soo i need wisdowm now gotta ask

About the end of the next banner i will be having around 210~ wishes. Right now i have rate up and 10 pity. If Raiden comes out should i go for C2? Oor i should keep my primos for new characters (if they ever come soon) for like Ayato/Ayaka/Kazuha etc. What do you suggest tho?

(Also dunno if this is the place to ask, I can delete it if it's wrong channel)

[fleet knot]

if you have the means and the will to c2 raiden i think that is the best move

[clear gale]

Well tbh i do like raiden and my artifacts are so good in it. But some say its stupid act to go for it instead of kazuha/new characters. etc

[fleet knot]

you dont really have the supports to run a main carry raiden so her best comps would still be national comps

[clear gale]

And they say if they will put a better weapon banner that will be ultra stupid to pull for her. But im like in between...

[fleet knot]

perhaps its a good idea to pull some supports like kazuha and yae and then get c2 later

[clear gale]

I always use raiden national tho, but in terms of making her "hypercarry" i need sara, kazuha seems like

[fleet knot]

ye

[clear gale]

But i also can't deny the fact that i love her firework show with that many elemental reactions xD

[quartz marsh]

def ignore is good for overall enemies

[clear gale]

Yeah this many good variations makes me think about all the time...

[silent tulip]

Outa curiosity is there anyone PJC is bis for?

[gilded dock]

XQ apparently

[silent tulip]

wait what

So i went to one of the shitty quora-like sites

Yes, for level 9 542 base attack would be incredible

but for lvl 90(probs what they meant) i don't think its ... that good..

pretty sure there are 4*s with more than that

oh right, alley flash

44.1 cr "highest in genshin"
I guess they got that right.. tied with redhorn

"it really ramps up in power once players start to invest levels into it"

I mean its true, but ... that applies to everybody except Venti who works fine at lvl 1 with no artifacts

@fleet knot Who is PJC good for

or is it just for chars that you don't wanna get artis for

[fleet knot]

Physical keqing

And players with really bad artifacts overall

[silent tulip]

... anything that is worth building?

[fleet knot]

Imo no

[silent tulip]

Now, how much shit can you find in this picture?

[fleet knot]

Pjc is matched or outclassed by other options in pretty much every case

It has lower base attack than 4* weaps and basically no passive

[lean steeple]

Omg look at my god tier team 😻😻

Not even gonna show artifacts cause my Genshin account hates me

[elder light]

That cinnabar on jean tho🙏

That sac bow on childe tho😫

sac bow > polar star so true !!!!

[round narwhal]

smooches ur hands u r . . so fiendish and powerfu l

[elder light]

i bet jean has 2k def😍 yes queen!

those godly heals

[burnt frigate]

I use Eye of perception in my Yanfei too 😄

[lean steeple]

Nah but jokes aside I literally have the worst luck in Genshin for artifacts AGEHDH

Like

I’ve actually had people play on my account so they can farm for me, and they get cursed as well

[elder light]

that 19% def

[lean steeple]

It’s B A D

SHUT U P

[elder light]

😍

wdym is hot🙏🙏

Youre meant to main itto albedo and noelle

[round narwhal]

geo team lessgoi

[lean steeple]

Not me having a team that’s just called Defense Artifacts

[river ore]

@lean steeple has leveled up to LEVEL 2

[elder light]

LMAO

[lean steeple]

LIKE WHAT IS THIS BULL

[round narwhal]

💀💀💀

[tawdry cobalt]

man what the hell

shenhe needs more Def

[silent tulip]

And so does yanfei

flat def

not def%

[lean steeple]

But Jean deserves that extra 600 def tho 😭💀

I need a day where I just farm for the artifacts they need but god I know I’m just going to get the shoddiest ones so what’s the point 💔

[elder light]

my favorite part

is the almost 1:1 ratio with jean

[urban plaza]

Omg this chat is the best thing that has happened to me today😂😂😂

[grand kestrel]

something missed I

[fleet knot]

No slingshot on childe smh

[lean steeple]

Mihoyo just hates me 😔🔫

[winter vine]

Hi

[high haven]

Wha Mona bob the builder 💀

[wise oak]

just noblesse

but for dps

uh

wanderer?

[high haven]

I thought it was instructors but okay 👍

thanks

[wise oak]

im pretty sure instructors dont have 5 stars

[high haven]

wut

[fleet knot]

instructors is like, if youre trying to mega min max

noblesse or 4sf is fine

[high haven]

ohhhhhh

okok

I guess im building ganyu and mona at the same time

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[silk nest]

i suggest 2 heart of depth and 2 noblesse for mona dps but if support 4 noblesse is better

[tough rock]

what about 4emblem?(mona)

[hasty sphinx]

Is venti or kazuha better in morgana team?

[slim solstice]

venti 100%. kazuha's plunge shatters frozen enemies. also, venti's burst allows ganyu to abuse the quadratic scaling on her q. also hes a better grouper and er isnt an issue.

[ocean ember]

I agree Venti's better, but Kazuha is also fine. Unless you have a single application of hydro or cryo, one shatter from the plunge really isn't relevant. But yeah, grouping is better with Venti.

[grand kestrel]

grouping is better with Venti, and he synergizes with Ganyu better. Kazuha is fine, but requires you to be closer to the enemies to make use of him. Not a massive deal, particularly in a freeze comp, but still something to consider. Venti is less viable paired with melee units because his ult is always a specific distance from him, not targetable.

which can be super annoying when you're fighting enemies that are not able to be pulled in.

[fleet knot]

yeah the main thing about kazuha is he only pulls at the beginning, but if you pull then freeze the enemies its not really too much of a problem

and permafreeze doesnt have 100% uptime either, kazuha is only going to be shattering at the beginning of the rotation

the whole core of the morgana comp, though, is based around strong persistent cc that kazuha literally does not have

so itll be fine for most content, you'll just never get that explosive DPS potential that a ganyu venti team has

[glass finch]

all i can think is ranged grouper for ranged dps, also have fun

[supple wasp]

May i ask which is better substat for a full atk qiqi, atk% or flat atk, by better i mean which one will give me the highest healing done by qiqi, im currently building her with the new clam set

And if possible which is better for my Hu Tao overall dps,
35k+hp 50crt rt 230 crt dmg or
30k+hp 50crt rt 300 crt dmg

[slim solstice]

atk% always better than flat atk

[supple wasp]

Oh thx

I mean there are cases in which the flat substat is better that is why im kind of confused

[slim solstice]

if you get 120 flat atk on your artifact or sth, maybe. usually atk% gives you more

[fleet knot]

i think 2 average atk% rolls = 6 max flat attack rolls

like it is VERY skewed in favor of % stats

in all cases

[fleet knot]

almost surely the second one, but since they have the same crit rate the comparison should be super simple

just gotta see which one does bigger numbers in game

alternatively you can run it through a calc like GO, which i will recommend at pretty much every opportunity

[supple wasp]

Can you teach me how to use the calc?

[fleet knot]

2 main things to keep in mind
first, the initial setup (getting all your artifacts and relevant characters imported) takes a bit of time, but once its setup its generally quick to do things
second, it doesnt solve the game, it relies on your game knowledge to set good inputs to see the results

https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/#/

im still patiently waiting the day where someone makes a better and more up-to-date guide than this, but for now this is the best one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kjvbp4_b1xw

its on a previous UI, but the process is largely unchanged

the biggest difference is you can use automatic scanners to import your artifacts now

[supple wasp]

Woah there are automated ones to calculate a damage of a character

I just search for the formula and do it myself but this time i got lazy

Thx a lot for these

[full prairie]

The characters you get to invite in this event, I have them all. Is there a certain constellation amongst them that is a must have?

[oblique pelican]

Xiangling c4, Xingqiu C2, Beidou C2, yanfei C1, chongyun C2

[full prairie]

Awesome, thanks!

[gilded dock]

XQ C6 as well tbh

[dull pebble]

hello, i have some questions,
I main aether (anemo)
That means i need to farm atk artifacts right?
The viridescent domain?

[plain shell]

yes, attack, anemo damage and crit damage/crit rate

did you use the anemo mc as main dps or support?

[dull pebble]

Main dps

[plain shell]

imo, you need 2 viridescent and 2 gladiator/shimenawa for maximal damage output

[dull pebble]

Is the weapon iron sting good for him?

I currently dont have 5 star weapons

[plain shell]

it's not bad but i think amenoma kageuchi (inazuma sword that you can forge) is better if you aim for better dps

[dull pebble]

Oh my thank you thank you, i will start building tomorrow or sunday cause screentime 👍🏻
I will be asking more if you dont mind

[raw creek]

what comp is good for floor 10 chamber 3 part 2?

[bleak river]

Hydro lector?

Freeze comp

[agile sequoia]

Which one will be better

Lion's roar or black sword

• black sword equipment

[silk nest]

lions roar

[oblique pelican]

BS

[silk nest]

but black sword is easier(?) play

[oblique pelican]

Black sword is better

[fleet knot]

if lion's roar conditional will be active

it should be stronger

[ocean ember]

Yeah, if you're running electro charged or mono electro, lion's roar is much better, specially at high refinements

If you're running something else with low uptime on the conditional or if for some reason you're never ulting, probably black sword

[silk nest]

also better if you refine them

[agile sequoia]

Yep, I know

[pure swan]

But lions roar have a better passive

[marble ridge]

is lion roar better than fav for xingqiu

this is assuming I dont have sac sword

[fleet knot]

if the conditional passive is active

yes

[ocean ember]

Uhh depends on the comp, but I'd say no

[fleet knot]

but thats only true on electro charge comps

[ocean ember]

But yeah, on electro charged it'd be fine

[fleet knot]

raiden national or raiden hypercarry both are EC based

so lions roar is BiS 4*

especially because raiden helps that energy cost a lot

[ocean ember]

Those are two specific comps though, and both involve Raiden

[fleet knot]

yeah, lions roar is dependent on the conditional effect

[hasty sphinx]

How do you beat floor 11-2-2 if you dont have any bow or catalyst dps?

[fleet knot]

thats hydro mimics right

pyro cryo and electro all have units who do very well on that floor, it just depends on who you have

geo too but to a lesser degree

[hexed falcon]

Kazuha, or zhongli/albedo, climb their pillar/elevator and attack with your dps to atk hydro finch
But tbh this is kinda tricky

[silent tulip]

You could bring someone with a huge AoE like Raiden/Chongyun+Diona/Noelle

or just get a fischl for that floor specifically

Sucrose could work, the finches don't have much health so with a few E's they should be dead

[hasty sphinx]

is this good enough?

[gilded dock]

You should try farming a better flower and sands once you have no other unit to farm

[bleak river]

I want that feather omg

Build looks good enough tbh

[wise oak]

lisa

[oblique pelican]

Aah yes. Lisa, the polearm user.

[glass finch]

electro + kazuha works

[glass finch]

everyone has lisa, so it kinda works as an answer

[modern raven]

finally hit +200% er on raiden

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[forest fog]

🥳 🥳

[modern raven]

[bold moth]

How to build diluc

[river ore]

Diluc

DPS 👍

**Regarding Weapon Choices:
Redhorn Stonethresher: **Depending on the amount of ATK% buffs you're getting, this weapon can overtake Wolf's Gravestone in personal damage.
**Serpent Spine: **Because Diluc's **[C2] **requires you to get hit to gain the ATK buff, it can potentially lead to a damage loss due to losing Serpent Spine stacks. However, when paired with **Zhongli, **the shield allows you to gain the **[C2] **buff while not losing any stacks - running Zhongli with **[C2] **Diluc is highly recommended.
Blackcliff Slasher: This weapon has excellent DPS potential when facing against crowds, but at the same time it's potential will not be utilized at single target situations.
Rainslasher: For obvious reasons, this weapon is only recommended when Diluc is in a team comp where he can consistently proc vaporize (i.e. when paired with Xingqiu). **Rainslasher will also outperform Skyward Pride at [R3+].

Regarding Artifact Sets:
Crimson Witch of Flames (4): **Generally the best go to set for Diluc due to how easily Diluc can stack the Pyro Damage effect, while his burst imbues his Normal/Charged Attacks with Pyro.
**Gladiator's Finale (4): ** For those who are still reluctant on farming for Crimson Witch of Flames (Pre-AR 45), this will still provide it a fairly decent increase in DPS as he still relies on his Normal Attacks mostly.

**Regarding Main Stats Choice:
**If Diluc is run alongside Xingqiu where he can trigger vaporize very often, you can run EM sands as an alternative to ATK sands. EM boosts Diluc's reaction damage by a lot after all. Note that when Diluc's Pyro imbued basic attack is active, he can trigger Vaporize every 2 basic attacks due to internal cooldown.

MAIN STATS

Sands: ATK% / Elemental Mastery
Goblet: Pyro DMG
Circlet: Crit Rate / DMG

SUB STATS

1. Crit Rate / DMG
2. ATK%
3. Elemental Mastery
4. Energy Recharge

TALENT PRIORITY

1. Normal Attack
2. Skill
3. Burst

WEAPON

1. Wolf's Gravestone (5★)
2. Redhorn Stonethresher (5★)
3. The Unforged (5★)
4. Serpent Spine (4★)
5. Song of Broken Pines (5★)
6. Blackcliff Slasher (4★)
7. Skyward Pride (5★)
8. Rainslasher (4★)
9. Lithic Blade [S1] (4★)
10. Luxurious Sea-Lord (4★)
11. Prototype Archaic (4★)
12. Debate Club (3★)

ARTIFACT

1. Crimson Witch of Flames (4)
2. Choose 2: Crimson Witch of Flames (2) / +18% ATK Set (2) / Wanderer's Troupe (2)
3. Gladiator's Finale (4)

ABILITY TIP

You can interweave Normal Attacks while using his Elemental Skill.

ie. ES -> NA -> NA -> ES -> NA -> NA -> ES -> NA -> NA

[autumn geyser]

👍

[grand kestrel]

I would start at the feet and work my way up, but each person can do it their own way.

[autumn geyser]

pyro dmg goblet

would be nice

[bold moth]

Yea but I think glad and pyro would be nice and not great right?

[autumn geyser]

or if your runing xinqiu

[bold moth]

Oh

[autumn geyser]

id say wanderers

cause of the em

[bold moth]

I do barabra xD

[autumn geyser]

do

do you not have a xinqiu

[bold moth]

Well have him but I use him with raiden

[autumn geyser]

is this like for the abyss?

or overworld?

[bold moth]

Yep

[autumn geyser]

ah yeah

since im assuming you do a decent amount of vaporizes

go 2p CWF/ 2p WT

[bold moth]

Og

Damn I don't know what that things is x$

XD

[autumn geyser]

crimson with of flames?

[bold moth]

Crimson witch right?

[autumn geyser]

yeah

[bold moth]

The other one?

[autumn geyser]

and wanderers' troupe

[bold moth]

Oh

Nice so ur on reactions damage?

Yea thats a nice idea

[autumn geyser]

yeah cause if you do hit,skill,hit,skill, etc on diluc

after his burst

he gets a lie 20%? pyro dmg boost

so ontop of a pyro goblet he'd be doing some decent melts

[oblique sierra]

WHY IM PITY 81 STILL NOT GET ZHONGLI???

[bold moth]

XD

[oblique sierra]

SOMEONE KNOW??

[bold moth]

Ye

[autumn geyser]

pity for chara is 90

[oblique sierra]

Bruh im not sleeping 5 day

[bold moth]

More primo I think xD

[autumn geyser]

weapon is 80

[oblique sierra]

Damn

Why 81...

[autumn geyser]

youre just really,really,really unlucky

[oblique sierra]

Yeah bruh, this is my first time.

Damn

[bold moth]

I'm on ganyu and I got c2 keqing xD

[autumn geyser]

i got to 90 on the kazuha banner a while back and got diluc

[bold moth]

So in the future I'll ask how to build electro build xD

[autumn geyser]

that was so fun for me

[bold moth]

Woe

Damn man I do like kazuha too

[autumn geyser]

but after high pitying a bunch a 5 stars

[bold moth]

But got mona

[autumn geyser]

i managed to get kokomi at 0 pity

[bold moth]

Well at least 76 xD

Wow

[oblique sierra]

Realy 81 doesnt get...

[bold moth]

Kokomi I like her

Bru

[oblique sierra]

I spend my time for zhongli. But damn

I f2p but whyy

But i dont like top up.

[bold moth]

XD go battlepass now

[oblique sierra]

Nah!

[bold moth]

Yea